Speaker 1: So since Danielle is is out this episode, thought you
Speaker 1: and I should will we should we should talk about
Speaker 1: trips that we took just the two of us.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were gonna say what we really
Speaker 2: thought about Danielle. Oh no, I will report back. Uh.
Speaker 1: Do you remember our first, our only autograph signing trip
Speaker 1: that we did.
Speaker 2: Oh geez.
Speaker 1: We went up to like San Francisco. We've stayed in
Speaker 1: San Francisco, but then it wasn't in It was like
Speaker 1: somewhere in the East Bay or South Bay and it
Speaker 1: was a mall and a mall. Why were we doing that?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And why did the East Coast swing too? Because it
Speaker 2: on the East coast as well.
Speaker 1: The only time I ever got invited to any and
Speaker 1: it was actually a Disney thing. They brought us up there.
Speaker 1: We we got paid some sort of flat rate for
Speaker 1: you and me to go up north and do a
Speaker 1: signing at them all and it was a big deal,
Speaker 1: like there was tons of people. Yeah. And then do
Speaker 1: you remember what we did?
Speaker 2: No? Did we did we go to an amusement park?
Speaker 1: Yes, we did. We went to Great America, which is
Speaker 1: the Six Flags up in northern California. But I just
Speaker 1: remember we like we had we finished our signing for
Speaker 1: the day and it was like two in the afternoon
Speaker 1: and you were like we were I said, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: we're somewhere near Great America and You're like, why don't
Speaker 1: we go? And we convinced the handler from Disney to
Speaker 1: call Great America and see if they could just give
Speaker 1: us like VIP backstage, and they did. They did, really
Speaker 1: they did, so we didn't have to wait in any lines.
Speaker 1: We went and did like a whirlwind like day at
Speaker 1: Great America, going with all the roller coasters, and I
Speaker 1: did they have like that extra you know how they
Speaker 1: have some amusement parks like the bungee jumping like Superman
Speaker 1: thing where there's.
Speaker 2: The Superman you did with the with the handler, did
Speaker 2: exactly you remember this?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't believe that's.
Speaker 3: Did you say how old you were here?
Speaker 1: I would have been seventeen. Yeah, it was much been
Speaker 1: just fifth season, fourth, fifth season something. But isn't it weird?
Speaker 1: So you did an East Coast swing too?
Speaker 2: Then I did an East Coast swing because I remember
Speaker 2: the funny The funniest thing was so was that a
Speaker 2: mall in New York and my family came because they
Speaker 2: were all in New York at the time, Gary and
Speaker 2: Greg and everybody, and they were all there and jokingly
Speaker 2: waiting in line. And one of the first people I
Speaker 2: saw was a girl who was probably twelve thirteen, and
Speaker 2: she came up and she asked for an autograph, and
Speaker 2: I said, of course, and I gave her an autograph.
Speaker 2: She turned around and not even trying to lower her voice, went,
Speaker 2: he looked so much better on TV.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I remember like turning it essentially saying it right to
Speaker 2: my family, who were the next ones in line, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh wow, what a way to spend
Speaker 2: a day.
Speaker 1: You see. I can't remember if I did get off,
Speaker 1: like if I got asked to do these kinds of things,
Speaker 1: because I would have said no, especially after the cruise.
Speaker 1: I would have just said like, no, I'm not, like
Speaker 1: I was so scared of the idea of meeting fans
Speaker 1: and like do we need anything? But I must have
Speaker 1: agreed to this one because you were going. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you and Will get to go and I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: Will and I get to go off, and we did.
Speaker 1: We had so much fun. But that's the only time
Speaker 1: I ever did anything like that until you know you wrote, yeah,
Speaker 1: you asked me that I do conventions coming in two
Speaker 1: thousand and you know, eighteen or whatever. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's something out there. And then I loved it.
Speaker 1: There's so much fun.
Speaker 3: But I was surprised Danielle didn't do a lot of
Speaker 3: them either. I think she only did that Mall of
Speaker 3: America one and maybe one other one. But you guys
Speaker 3: weren't like on the Tiffany Debbie Gibson tourists, right, no malls.
Speaker 2: That would be great now. And then Danielle did one
Speaker 2: for her book signing too, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like those are but those are like Barnes and
Speaker 3: Nobles and right, that's funny. Well that's really funny. I mean,
Speaker 3: do you guys still I mean, I know, Disney every
Speaker 3: once in a while when you can, but like, does
Speaker 3: does roller coasters mean anything to you now? Because they
Speaker 3: make me dizzy at forty five? Oh me too?
Speaker 1: They're so fun, No, make that. I definitely get a
Speaker 1: little like a different feeling than I used to as
Speaker 1: a kid. I'm like, oh god, I am so old
Speaker 1: for this by a lot. I love it.
Speaker 2: You know why though, It's because of the crystals. In
Speaker 2: your ears. Yeah, so this crystals in your ear drums
Speaker 2: that at the older you get, they more they solidify
Speaker 2: so they're less liquid. So then that kind of movement
Speaker 2: makes you feel more sick. I remember because Sue and
Speaker 2: I hadn't been on a roller coaster in forever, and
Speaker 2: we all went to disney Land and they had the
Speaker 2: loop coaster there and we hadn't done, ever done a
Speaker 2: loop coaster at Disneyland was the first one they had there.
Speaker 2: We're like, okay, great, let's do this. It was the
Speaker 2: first thing we did. Ruined our whole day. The rest
Speaker 2: of the day we were like, can't, can't do this anymore? Like, yeah, horrible, okay,
Speaker 2: best ride you've ever been on?
Speaker 3: Good question. I mean it seems like that Star Wars
Speaker 3: thing might be the best one ever made.
Speaker 2: Where you go in the you actually go in and
Speaker 2: you see the walker, like the Imperial Walker.
Speaker 3: It's insane. Yeah, it would be difficult to beat that.
Speaker 1: I having been on stuff recently. Ghost Rider, the roller
Speaker 1: coaster at Knotsberry Farm, is the most perfect roller coaster.
Speaker 3: I ever been on it.
Speaker 1: No, it's an old school wooden one, but a fast
Speaker 1: and it is really well made. I I've just I've
Speaker 1: been on it maybe six times, and I've enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Every time you do it at night and they light
Speaker 1: it up. It is so much fun.
Speaker 2: Better than Goofy Sky School.
Speaker 3: Oh god, anything called Goofy Sky School, Jesus not very
Speaker 3: farm is the underrated theme, it is.
Speaker 2: It is the part I have to admit though. The
Speaker 2: first time that I ever went on what is now
Speaker 2: Guardians of the Galaxy, but was then Tower Terror.
Speaker 3: That's a great ride. That was a great Guardian really fun. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're going if we're going on the kid Angle. Also,
Speaker 3: I think Mister Toad's Wild Ride is hard to beat
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: That's a great ride the Caribbean.
Speaker 1: Pirates of the Caribbean when the sense of atmosphere like though,
Speaker 1: and I like it when it's physical. That's my problem
Speaker 1: with the the Star Wars ride. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: still a lot of screen stuff, you know, Like anytime
Speaker 1: I'm looking at screens or actors on screens, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not in Wait.
Speaker 2: Which Star Wars right are you talking about? You're talking
Speaker 2: about flying the Millennium Falcon.
Speaker 3: But have you ever done that one where you see
Speaker 3: the Stormtroopers where you walk through and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's incredible. Where you get to.
Speaker 2: I think I told you if I really got to
Speaker 2: the the girl who obviously had been there all day
Speaker 2: and was just like, Hi, I'm Kelly, I'm here from
Speaker 2: the Resistance.
Speaker 3: Follow me please. Everyone else is doing an accent. They
Speaker 3: all were like, you.
Speaker 1: Worthless dogs, Let's take down the Empire.
Speaker 3: Let's go. Yeah, we did it. It was so funny.
Speaker 3: Fifty four Megasex doesn't know any of the words, just
Speaker 3: walking through it. Well, welcome to pop Mey's world.
Speaker 2: I'm Jensen Cart, I'm rather strong, and I'm Wilfordell.
Speaker 3: Listen. It's the last Monday where you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: hear me or look at me, So don't worry. It
Speaker 3: all goes away. Danielle will be back very soon. And
Speaker 3: normally I come on the show to play you a
Speaker 3: clip of something that I found in my extensive research
Speaker 3: for Pod Meets World, and this actually kind of fits
Speaker 3: in that genre, which is I love looking at things
Speaker 3: that Will and Ryder have done outside of the show.
Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite hobbies. I don't do it
Speaker 3: for Danielle because she will kill me, but in this case,
Speaker 3: I found a longer piece of media that had to
Speaker 3: be dug into a little deeper. And this is a
Speaker 3: show that Will did after Boy Meets World. This was,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, the next step for Will in a
Speaker 3: sense that he could run his own sitcom. It seems
Speaker 3: like that was what was going to happen after Boy
Speaker 3: Meets World correctly, and this was a show called The
Speaker 3: Random Years. So before we dive into this, we'll be
Speaker 3: recapping the pilot of The Random Years. It is currently
Speaker 3: available to watch on YouTube. All you have to type
Speaker 3: in is the Random Years. We will put the link
Speaker 3: to the show that we used for our recapping. It's
Speaker 3: the best quality online in our description, you could check
Speaker 3: it out. It actually has the first and second episode
Speaker 3: on that YouTube video, but we only I mean I
Speaker 3: watched both because I'm just obsessed with life, but the
Speaker 3: first one is the one we recap. Will tell us
Speaker 3: a little bit about your journey to The Random Years,
Speaker 3: and then I'll talk maybe a little bit more details
Speaker 3: about the show. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What I remember most about my journey to The Random
Speaker 2: Years was the kind of controversy that surrounded it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I had, you know, I finished Boy Metswirld, and
Speaker 2: I was on a what's called the Whole Deal with Disney,
Speaker 2: and the first thing they did was they put me
Speaker 2: on a show that I did six episodes of called
Speaker 2: GoFish with Kieran Culkin and Andy Dick.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, it.
Speaker 2: Was the several of the cast members were very nice.
Speaker 2: I got along with It is by far the worst
Speaker 2: experience I've ever had on on a television show.
Speaker 3: I like a guess between Curing Cocan or Andy Dick
Speaker 3: where you had.
Speaker 2: The problem, To be honest with you, it wasn't either
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, right, it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't either of them were playing the older brother on it,
Speaker 1: so it's sort of like they just like sampled you from.
Speaker 2: Boy me and I went from playing the older brother
Speaker 2: of a savage to the older brother of a Coulkin.
Speaker 1: And was it a single camera a multi camp?
Speaker 2: It was single camera, single camera, And so we we
Speaker 2: did that, we finished that, obviously didn't get picked up.
Speaker 2: We got we wrapped that up, and then you know,
Speaker 2: you're back kind of on the audition circuit. But I
Speaker 2: was still in the place where I didn't have to audition.
Speaker 2: So UPN called and said, we have a show that
Speaker 2: we'd like you to read for called or come in
Speaker 2: and meet on called the Random yres great. I read
Speaker 2: the script.
Speaker 3: I really liked it.
Speaker 2: I went in and met with them. They said, look,
Speaker 2: we'd really love you to do this show. I said, fine,
Speaker 2: I signed on to do the show. We shot the
Speaker 2: Memory Serves, we shot the pilot. Had a great time.
Speaker 3: The cast is.
Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome, Eather there, Sean Murray and I became very
Speaker 2: very close friends, Natalia, Josh, everybody.
Speaker 3: We were We got along right off the bat. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then they said we're not we're not picking it up.
Speaker 3: We're not.
Speaker 2: You did the pilot, thank you very much, We're not.
Speaker 2: We're not doing it anymore. I said, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 2: And then I got a call from the w B
Speaker 2: saying we're doing a show.
Speaker 3: Was it the www B?
Speaker 2: It was the w W this is w B and
Speaker 2: they were Sean, oh god, now I'm gonna British actor
Speaker 2: Sean Connery. Sean, Yes, it was Sean Connery is finally
Speaker 2: doing a sitcoms w B.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was called you Bastards and so welcome to you
Speaker 2: Bastards on the Doctor here w B.
Speaker 3: Why is that frog?
Speaker 2: No? So I went in and met on that I
Speaker 2: met with Sean King I think is his name, and uh,
Speaker 2: they said, yeah, this has already been picked up for
Speaker 2: twenty six episodes. We'd love for you to do this
Speaker 2: with us. I said, I'd love to do this show.
Speaker 2: I then got a letter like two days later from WB,
Speaker 2: I still have it. Welcome to the cast of Off Center.
Speaker 2: We're so excited to start blah blah blah. UPN then
Speaker 2: heard that I had was now going to do a
Speaker 2: WB show, so they decided to exercise my option and
Speaker 2: pick us up for the six episodes that were guaranteed
Speaker 2: to burn us off so that I couldn't go to
Speaker 2: the WB. And it made the trades. So it was
Speaker 2: all over the trades that w that. You know, WB
Speaker 2: was really upset because they were yeah, and.
Speaker 3: This was their main competition, right, I mean, that was
Speaker 3: who they were going up against. Yeah, so they were.
Speaker 2: It was at the time they were UPN was going
Speaker 2: through a changeover, which every network does all the time,
Speaker 2: and and less Moonvest had come in and picked up
Speaker 2: four or five shows, random Yres being one of them,
Speaker 2: and the second then less Moonvest left.
Speaker 3: They knew anything he brought to.
Speaker 2: The network was what was going to be gone and
Speaker 2: we were one of those, so they knew they were
Speaker 2: going to cancel us before they picked us up, just
Speaker 2: so I couldn't go to the WB Wow after assuring
Speaker 2: me that that wouldn't happen.
Speaker 1: And what happened to the w B show?
Speaker 3: Did it go on? It went two seasons, two seasons.
Speaker 2: Eddie K Thomas, Yeah, Eddie K took over.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to frustrating man.
Speaker 2: No, yes, it would be an actor so rough, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was. I mean it was would have been two
Speaker 2: seasons on a sick and who knows, maybe if it
Speaker 2: was Shahn and I it would have gone longer. You never,
Speaker 2: you never, well, but he was fun doing well.
Speaker 3: It is fun. The Random Years aired on the UPN
Speaker 3: Network in two thousand and two. Debuted in March. It's
Speaker 3: created by Michael Lisbie and Nate Regor.
Speaker 2: A rider you also met they were. They marched with
Speaker 2: us randomly. I think it was Nate. It was either
Speaker 2: Nate or Mike were one of the people that marched
Speaker 2: with us during the strike on that World Day.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Their their first big gig, and really almost
Speaker 3: their first gig, was on Spin City. They pretty much
Speaker 3: struck gold. They were given their own kind of development deals.
Speaker 3: This was the result of it.
Speaker 1: That's funny because when I was watching this, I was
Speaker 1: like there. I was like, oh, Will's doing like an
Speaker 1: Alex speaking Yeah, so that makes sense. The spin City,
Speaker 1: There's a There's a.
Speaker 3: The show is loosely inspired by the Friends Boom of
Speaker 3: those years. It was based on the writers experience living
Speaker 3: in New York City after graduating from college and what
Speaker 3: they call a mid season replacement. So this is a
Speaker 3: show that doesn't debut at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 3: It comes in for someone that is ailing. That show
Speaker 3: that was ailing. Do you know what it was? No,
Speaker 3: Roswell really.
Speaker 2: Five seasons seasons?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know for as bad as your industry story
Speaker 3: was the Roswell Roswell has a great industry story.
Speaker 2: But yes, no, we were. We were very much the
Speaker 2: sacrificial lamb. As we were shooting, we knew we weren't
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 1: Really, they just did this attack my other deal. Everybody
Speaker 1: else know that too, the other actors.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I mean it was in the trades,
Speaker 2: it was everywhere, and that it was the and then
Speaker 2: we actually went to upfronts and you know, because it's
Speaker 2: u PN there were nine people in the in the
Speaker 2: audience at upfronts, and every question was what do you
Speaker 2: think about the WB doing this, what do you think
Speaker 2: about UPM doing this? Do you really want to be
Speaker 2: doing the show or did you rather be doing Off Center?
Speaker 2: And it was like, boy, no, I'm excited to be
Speaker 2: here kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I did read it. I did read a
Speaker 3: couple of interviews with you from the time, and it
Speaker 3: is focused on you saying this is the show I
Speaker 3: want to be on. Just yeah, I know that happened,
Speaker 3: and this is the show I ended up on the
Speaker 3: show I really wanted to be on. That's kind of
Speaker 3: just the talking point you had. I'm so glad I
Speaker 3: got to meet all those guys, but I would rather
Speaker 3: have been on the other show because Roswell was an hour,
Speaker 3: so you went first. And then another show called as
Speaker 3: If as If. I remember that because I remember meeting
Speaker 3: the as If. It was a show that was really
Speaker 3: big in England and they brought over an American version,
Speaker 3: but they brought over some of the cast as well, and.
Speaker 2: I remember them at the UPM party. Were all very
Speaker 2: very nice. So but that show didn't go either.
Speaker 3: Well, you guys, Film seven episodes, only four aired. Fun
Speaker 3: trivia question. Do you know the name of the final
Speaker 3: episode that aired?
Speaker 2: I think, if memory serves it was called Boy Meets World.
Speaker 3: It was called Wow. I was so excited when I
Speaker 3: found that out.
Speaker 2: We did seven. We did seven?
Speaker 3: Film seven? You film seven? You aired for? Yeah, you
Speaker 3: aired for. I'm not doing this for anything other than
Speaker 3: a fact I'm not kicking you while you're down. You
Speaker 3: know that the network was pushing to get the show
Speaker 3: off the air. The Random Years received the lowest ratings
Speaker 3: of any original programming of that network TV season. Really
Speaker 3: it did which which shows? They just didn't show any
Speaker 3: commercials because even just by showing a commercial you get
Speaker 3: better ratings.
Speaker 2: They wanted us. They wanted us to die. That was
Speaker 2: they were ironically. Critics kind of liked it. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: kind of liked it. I found a bunch of reviews
Speaker 2: that liked the cast. A bunch of people liked you, obviously,
Speaker 2: and the cast is a bunch of I would call
Speaker 2: them workers, Yeah, a bunch of like hardcore just TV workers,
Speaker 2: which we'll get into in a minute. Uh.
Speaker 3: Lisbie and Regor would go on to have a fruitful
Speaker 3: career in Hollywood, writing and producing on just shoot me. Cougartown,
Speaker 3: two broke Girls, the cool kids. They've created shows, They've
Speaker 3: went on to do a lot of stuff, and they
Speaker 3: most rely worked on a show called Alca Poco, which
Speaker 3: people really like on Apple TV.
Speaker 2: Okay too, and they're also they were really great to
Speaker 2: work with, very collaborative, really cool guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we will get into the recap and you
Speaker 3: can give us some inside stories about things you remember
Speaker 3: from watching it. Then timeline from Boy Meets World? How
Speaker 3: long after Boy Meets World raps? Does this start?
Speaker 2: Two years? Because we finished in two thousand and I
Speaker 2: think that, so yeah, end of because we finished Go
Speaker 2: Fish in two thousand and one, so yeah, this is
Speaker 2: two thousand and two, two years later.
Speaker 3: And were the Fridels were Were they watching it as
Speaker 3: excitedly as they were Boy Meets World?
Speaker 2: Any any time? My mom My mom loves me to death,
Speaker 2: and of course she's very supportive anything I do. My
Speaker 2: dad is like, this is the best thing that has
Speaker 2: ever happened. It is the greatest show on TV. My god,
Speaker 2: my son is a genius.
Speaker 3: That's my thing. Yeah right, I'm not doing this so
Speaker 3: that I could find it, because I could find it
Speaker 3: on my own, But I am asking what was your
Speaker 3: next step? What was the show right after Boy Meets
Speaker 3: World for me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh nothing. I went to college. I went to New
Speaker 1: York and yeah, there was a I had a whole
Speaker 1: deal too, And there was a show that Will and
Speaker 1: I both went to Network for different parts. Do you
Speaker 1: remember this show? Will?
Speaker 2: It was? It was?
Speaker 1: It was by the guys who are now huge. They
Speaker 1: did Deep and oh Wow.
Speaker 3: There was a Mandel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Mandel and then his writing partner God who
Speaker 1: ran Silicon Valley.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't like The Loft or the Apartment.
Speaker 1: It was a college show. It was about It was
Speaker 1: about like guys in college.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Years was that?
Speaker 1: What was just called the college?
Speaker 2: It was called the College.
Speaker 1: Dave Mandel and the other guy they were amazing and
Speaker 1: they're great writers. They've obviously gone onto huge careers separately,
Speaker 1: but at the time they were writing partners and they
Speaker 1: created the show called The College Years, and they brought
Speaker 1: us both in and I remember being like, they're going
Speaker 1: to have to pick one of us, and neither of
Speaker 1: us got it. And then I went off to college
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I'm not going to keep
Speaker 1: auditioning for TV shows. Oh no, wait, I did do
Speaker 1: a show. I did a pilot in two thousand and one.
Speaker 1: I did a upn show. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: ended up being called. When I did it, it was
Speaker 1: called something like uh whatever, or you know, like some
Speaker 1: generic sort of catchphrase. But yeah, it was just a
Speaker 1: high school show, like it was a senior in high
Speaker 1: school and it was a pretty funny single camera pilot,
Speaker 1: but never got picked up.
Speaker 3: Alec Berg you Sefeld too. Yes, he's a great great writer,
Speaker 3: as Mandel as well, who created their you.
Speaker 1: Know, and their stuff is like they brought me in
Speaker 1: also they they wrote and directed with another guy, They
Speaker 1: wrote and directed a movie called Fistful of Euros in
Speaker 1: like two thousand and two, So they brought me in
Speaker 1: and screen tested me for that. I just I loved
Speaker 1: the writing and they liked me. We always look out a.
Speaker 2: I don't think they liked me, if memory serves, if
Speaker 2: they're the two guys I think they are. I don't
Speaker 2: think they were huge.
Speaker 1: Fans of really great great writers.
Speaker 3: Well. I also I also hope that this gives our
Speaker 3: listeners a bit of a viewing into a different aspect
Speaker 3: of acting, which is that we focus the show on
Speaker 3: the biggest success of your careers. You know, this is
Speaker 3: a show that went on forever and is being talked
Speaker 3: about thirty years later, But yet even your most successful
Speaker 3: actors have these stories, which is, you know, something else
Speaker 3: that went on that could have went that way but didn't.
Speaker 3: And maybe there's there's some insight you can give while
Speaker 3: we go through the recap as to why or what
Speaker 3: you liked about it or whatever it was. But I
Speaker 3: actually had a fun time watching it. I guess we
Speaker 3: usually asked what everyone thought about it. I guess we'll
Speaker 3: start with Will, what did you think about watching this complete?
Speaker 3: I'm sure everything was forgotten from your brain watching it.
Speaker 3: What was you?
Speaker 2: You know what? To be totally honestly, I was pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 2: I remember my performance being a lot worse than it was.
Speaker 2: I knew the rest of the cast, including the guest stars,
Speaker 2: were solid, because I remember how funny they were. I
Speaker 2: always thought that especially I was pushing a little like
Speaker 2: in my head, I was pushing too hard to try
Speaker 2: to be the leading man. I was mugging for the
Speaker 2: camera more than I needed to. And then when I
Speaker 2: watched it back, I was like, Okay, it's not bad.
Speaker 2: I actually watched the second episode as well, and frankly,
Speaker 2: I thought the second episode was better than.
Speaker 3: The first one. Yeah, so pilots are always hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but overall I was I was actually pleasantly surprised
Speaker 2: with the chemistry we all had on camera and the
Speaker 2: writing and the sets and everything. I mean, I was.
Speaker 3: I liked it.
Speaker 2: I actually I actually enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: It's a fun show. Rter, Wait, what did you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that this is an example
Speaker 1: of just a pretty amazing cast, Like these are all
Speaker 1: just great sitcom actors. I just didn't feel like this
Speaker 1: was a pilot. I wanted this to be the second
Speaker 1: or third episode, and I think I feel like this
Speaker 1: was there was I like pilots that that initiate the
Speaker 1: situation or explain the situation, and I was lost.
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, you were thrown in.
Speaker 1: We were thrown in, and we were just supposed to
Speaker 1: know these characters, and I want and by the end
Speaker 1: of the episode, I was like, Okay, now I get
Speaker 1: where we're going. But I wanted a little bit more telegraphing,
Speaker 1: to be like, this is this guy whose apartment is here,
Speaker 1: and he has this kind of job. This is his
Speaker 1: loser friend who does this, and this is his friend,
Speaker 1: you know, like just a little bit more like locating
Speaker 1: of where it felt a little too generic. I feel
Speaker 1: like they just they they didn't go hard enough. It
Speaker 1: was like, and it's not the actor's fault. I feel
Speaker 1: like it was probably and probably not the writer's fault.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was probably a network note like
Speaker 1: just make it friends. Just put these guys in funny situations.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, okay, you can do that. But
Speaker 1: even Friends starts with like Rachel being introduced to everybody,
Speaker 1: so she's like a fish out of water being like yes,
Speaker 1: and this didn't have like a way in. So I
Speaker 1: just felt a little like I'm throwing the deep end
Speaker 1: with funny actors, but I don't know why I'm here,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what I'm looking for.
Speaker 3: I know what it is because Danielle and I have
Speaker 3: sold enough script deals to figure out you know that,
Speaker 3: you know we don't get it. I've gotten one thing
Speaker 3: on TV, but but basically everything else gets canned before
Speaker 3: it gets to even this point. But the idea is
Speaker 3: is they the note is always let's just get into
Speaker 3: it exactly right, isn't that the note? The note is like,
Speaker 3: you only have two minutes to get the viewer to
Speaker 3: not change a channel. Let's just do it into it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And they don't want to do any setup. Instead, it's
Speaker 3: you walking around with a concern and now we're in
Speaker 3: the show, right like and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like the conceit of the show, which
Speaker 1: I did watch the beginning of the second episode, and
Speaker 1: that was much better at setting up the conceit of
Speaker 1: the show, which is three guys who all want love,
Speaker 1: They all want a woman in their life, and they
Speaker 1: all have different strategies and completely different lifestyles, but they're
Speaker 1: best friends. And so that's the next episode begins with
Speaker 1: them all hitting on a waitress with their own style,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was a better intro because it's
Speaker 1: like that sets up the thematics of the show right now,
Speaker 1: you walking in and being like, why are you on
Speaker 1: my couch again? I was like, oh wait, wait, is
Speaker 1: who's what?
Speaker 3: What you know?
Speaker 1: I just wanted a little bit more of like, what
Speaker 1: is the point of this show? And if the point
Speaker 1: of the show is three guys are desperate to find
Speaker 1: love in New York City in the Random Mirrors that
Speaker 1: would have.
Speaker 3: Been just just sit tell me that it is funny
Speaker 3: to mention the second episodes opening, because I do think
Speaker 3: it gets across each character better than we do.
Speaker 2: Yeh pilot yet disagree.
Speaker 3: Just by telling us how they deal with women.
Speaker 1: Exactly one short scene. It was like a little well like,
Speaker 1: here's each guy's take, and you know who's going to
Speaker 1: be successful and who's now.
Speaker 3: The jokes And by the way, the jokes are harder
Speaker 3: to find in the pilot than they are in the second.
Speaker 2: By the way I've said this, I've said this from
Speaker 2: for for since I saw it. If you want to
Speaker 2: see pretty close to a perfect sitcompilot, go watch the
Speaker 2: pilot for news Radio. It is just it gets everybody
Speaker 2: in from the second year they're on camera, you know
Speaker 2: what's happening. They give you there's a there's a mission
Speaker 2: for our lead character. You were he's introduced to everybody else.
Speaker 2: It is a pretty perfect sitcompilot.
Speaker 3: Another thing for listeners who aren't in the business. I
Speaker 3: actually would argue if networks were able to throw away money,
Speaker 3: which twenty twenty four that is no longer happening. No,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even air pilots. I know that we just
Speaker 3: keep them because oh they have them in the can
Speaker 3: and they just put it on. But the truth is
Speaker 3: shows get better. Yeah, after you get months off basically
Speaker 3: between the pilot and the pickup, and then you're back
Speaker 3: and people just you've you've worked on the characters more.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is just better by that. And honestly,
Speaker 3: and for podcast too, if you listen to our podcast
Speaker 3: up top and you learn and you change and all
Speaker 3: those things happen, it just shows get better.
Speaker 2: If you want to see a perfect example of that,
Speaker 2: I always bring it back to Mash, which I'm going
Speaker 2: to do. So when they did the pilot of Mash,
Speaker 2: then they ran the entire first season of Mash. People
Speaker 2: weren't watching it at all. It was almost canceled several times.
Speaker 2: So to relaunch it, they essentially did a second pilot to.
Speaker 3: Start season two.
Speaker 2: So if you watch the very first episode then the
Speaker 2: very first episode of season two, you're essentially watching two pilots.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting to see how they change it over
Speaker 2: the season. But they reintroduce all the characters again, they
Speaker 2: reshow the camp again. It's like they start all over
Speaker 2: after an entire season of the show.
Speaker 3: It's cool well. Also, for the record, that is why
Speaker 3: you hear so many people say, oh, it takes a
Speaker 3: couple to get going, but once you're in episode four,
Speaker 3: it's it's not. They didn't try to do that. Yeah, no, exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean break You know how many people said to
Speaker 2: me with Breaking bad with like just keep with it,
Speaker 2: just stick with it.
Speaker 3: Ben, you're gonna get hooked, and the Wired people same thing.
Speaker 2: Stick with it, stick with it.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, all right, all right, Well, let's get
Speaker 3: into the recap here. This is season one, episode one
Speaker 3: of the random years. Pilots are always named basically the
Speaker 3: random year of course. Yeah, yeah, it's always the name.
Speaker 3: First air date was March fifth, two thousand and two.
Speaker 3: Certain time in Everyone's life. There the synopsis four Friends
Speaker 3: Experience Life, Love and Laughs in New York City. Keep
Speaker 3: it as generic as humanly possible for your violot exactly,
Speaker 3: they tell me anything. And it's directed by Lee Shallat Chemmel,
Speaker 3: a TV legend in the field. She has over one
Speaker 3: hundred credits for Murphy Brown, to George Lopez, to The
Speaker 3: Bernie Mac Show to Raising Hope. You name a show
Speaker 3: she has probably worked on it. Script is obviously always
Speaker 3: by the creators of the show. They're the showrunners. That's
Speaker 3: for many reasons. One, if you're not in the business,
Speaker 3: I could tell you they get paid on every episode
Speaker 3: something to know. Basically, they created the characters. They get
Speaker 3: to Also, by the way, Lee also gets paid on
Speaker 3: every director. Yeah, director, director, pilot. You get money for
Speaker 3: the rest of that shows, rest of that show. So characters,
Speaker 3: buy all those things come up through the creators. So
Speaker 3: they write the first screenplay. It's starring our own wilfredell
Speaker 3: Is Alex Barnes. All Right, what do you remember about
Speaker 3: getting this cat? Like, what was the character? What did
Speaker 3: you know? Nothing?
Speaker 2: He's really he's at the beginning, you know, you're just
Speaker 2: a guy. It's more like how I can insert myself
Speaker 2: into the character. I knew he was supposed to be
Speaker 2: a website at the time. He runs a music website site. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he is obviously trying to find love. He's out of
Speaker 2: college for a year or two by this point, we're
Speaker 2: just starting to and like most kids just starting out,
Speaker 2: he's got a seventeen thousand square foot apartment in New
Speaker 2: York City, so obvious.
Speaker 1: See that's what I was sort of thinking. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: well he's the guy like I realized. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: the point or one of the is the differences between
Speaker 1: the guys. You're the one who did all the right things,
Speaker 1: you like made money right, right, and then you have
Speaker 1: your friend who has no ambition and who just sits
Speaker 1: on the couch but has an easy time with girls,
Speaker 1: and you're you're struggling. And then you have your weirdo
Speaker 1: friend who's like maybe a genius, but he's like really
Speaker 1: awkward with women, right, yeah, and he's a dental assistant. Right,
Speaker 1: but you like do everything right, but you can't find love.
Speaker 1: Cor okay, Like, but it took a while to their distinctions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I know you were Alex P. Keaton, you were
Speaker 1: like the more conservative like you. You know, you dress well,
Speaker 1: you do your job, everybody likes you, but you're still
Speaker 1: unhappy because you want love. I don't know that's the vibent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's everybody's that We were all looking
Speaker 2: for that person.
Speaker 1: In our lives.
Speaker 3: Right question, are you are you Napster? Are or are
Speaker 3: you Pitchfork?
Speaker 1: Hmmm?
Speaker 3: Like you have a website, well, Napster like was a
Speaker 3: peer to peer in two thousands, like Pitchfork. I think
Speaker 3: it's like Pitchfork is like a it's like culturally cool,
Speaker 3: but not like.
Speaker 1: Breaking the Internet cool, you know, like Napster was breaking
Speaker 1: the Internet. I feel like this character is much more like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just I've see a new business and I'm going
Speaker 1: into it and like we're making money and we're doing fine.
Speaker 2: I think it is the one I've heard of that
Speaker 2: didn't that guy like steal it or something like that.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, all these guys in two thousand
Speaker 3: and two have some story that could be turned into
Speaker 3: a movie. But but what I'm sort of saying is like,
Speaker 3: were you illegally putting music online? Or were Oh?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, isn't the guy from Napster? Wasn't he in
Speaker 2: the Facebook? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So who who was the female regular?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll get his only Well, let's let's tell you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's get into Josh Suckerman is wise Man or Weissman Wiseman.
Speaker 3: This was early in his acting career, after small parts
Speaker 3: in Pearl Harbor and Evolution. Soon after the Random Years,
Speaker 3: he would retire from acting really yeah, and he would
Speaker 3: begin producing unscripted television executive producing shows like Hustle and
Speaker 3: tow Girl Meets Farm in Sidon City Toe. Isn't that
Speaker 3: like towing show subgenre?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I love that.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm super nice guy. I remember he was.
Speaker 2: You know, they were essentially like without telling him to
Speaker 2: be Kramer, they were telling him to be Cramer correct direct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yea. Natalia is Casey. That's who you're asking about,
Speaker 3: will Right Rider.
Speaker 2: You have also worked with Natalia?
Speaker 3: I have yet.
Speaker 2: Natalia was on what was the show that Chila was
Speaker 2: on that we would then went over and did an
Speaker 2: episode of. I did an episode of and you were
Speaker 2: in the Party?
Speaker 3: Odd Man Out?
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. Natalia was on odd Man Out?
Speaker 1: Gotcha?
Speaker 2: She was one of the regulars on odd Man Out.
Speaker 3: Oh there she's yeah, I have that. I have that.
Speaker 3: She played Lindsay Wagner on Saved by the Bell The
Speaker 3: New Class. That was her biggest role. She would appear
Speaker 3: on Beverly Hills nine O two one, Oh was Chloe,
Speaker 3: and shows like odd Man Out, as you said, Pacific
Speaker 3: Palisades and Unhappily. Ever After, she would go on to
Speaker 3: be in stuff like Joe Dirt and Joe Dirt sequel,
Speaker 3: All My Children, Raising the Bar and something called Deputy,
Speaker 3: which is pretty new.
Speaker 1: Okay, so she's she becomes a regular. There's only only four.
Speaker 1: There's four man, Okay, yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 2: In the second episode, she ends up moving in with
Speaker 2: or moving into the apartment.
Speaker 3: Across the way from us.
Speaker 1: Great, Okay, I wish that was the pilot then, yeah,
Speaker 1: those who would have been the perfect audience surrogate, like
Speaker 1: coming into this situation with these three.
Speaker 3: Yes, she's the paid star. Those are the paid stars,
Speaker 3: by the way, So now we're into guest stars. David
Speaker 3: Gary as Waiter, another Joe Dirt guy who also appeared
Speaker 3: on Just Shoot Me, so I assume that's how he
Speaker 3: got that job. Valerie Geffner as Joe Lene, Jennifer Morrison
Speaker 3: as Megan. Megan would go on to star on the
Speaker 3: TV show House, which which is very cool as doctor
Speaker 3: Allison Cameron, and she would appear on How I Met
Speaker 3: Your Mother and This is.
Speaker 2: Us and she and my girlfriend really she was. We
Speaker 2: met on this set and then we dated after this. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Very sweet girl, very sweet girl a couple of months.
Speaker 3: She's very pretty, very pretty.
Speaker 2: She is also on the cover of our Approboard pants catalog.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna sell us some pants. Yes, she's very cool.
Speaker 3: And Sean Murray is Todd Mitchell. You'll most likely recognize
Speaker 3: him from hocus Pocus, where he played Fatackery, and then
Speaker 3: he'd go on to play Timothy McGee on almost five
Speaker 3: hundred episodes of ncis yet still on it. He's never
Speaker 3: run into these people ever.
Speaker 1: I do well.
Speaker 2: Sewn and I became good friends. I was at Sewan's wedding,
Speaker 2: so yeah, no, we became very friendly and we were
Speaker 2: friends for years and then we've kind of lost touch,
Speaker 2: but we'll always kind of come back into each other's lives.
Speaker 2: So at one point he was a very good friend
Speaker 2: of mine. I still consider him a friend of mine.
Speaker 2: He's a great guy all the way.
Speaker 3: Before we get into the recap and get into the
Speaker 3: nitty gritty, people know all about successes. Like I said,
Speaker 3: what does it feel like to be on a show
Speaker 3: at this point? You kind of know the network is
Speaker 3: dooming it and then you get the call that there's
Speaker 3: you know, we're done after four I mean, what is
Speaker 3: that feeling for people who don't act?
Speaker 1: It's tough.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, I mean it's tough mostly because let's
Speaker 2: put it this way. Sometimes it's tough, sometimes it's not.
Speaker 2: When I found out go Fish wasn't getting picked up,
Speaker 2: I was very happy. When I found out random here
Speaker 2: is what they were doing with it, I was upset
Speaker 2: because I really liked everybody. We got along super well.
Speaker 2: The set was a fun place to be. We just
Speaker 2: enjoyed being with each other. We enjoyed the scripts. It
Speaker 2: was also coming off A Boy Meets World and going
Speaker 2: to a show where we were talking about sex, where
Speaker 2: we were drinking, where we were doing all stuff. It
Speaker 2: was such a step up as an actor, and that's
Speaker 2: that's wrong. That's step up is wrong. It's just a
Speaker 2: different chapter in my life as an actor. We're now
Speaker 2: playing an adult and I'm aging up. So that was
Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun. I remember the first time,
Speaker 2: you know, as we're on the set and Lee's like,
Speaker 2: all right, wanted you to go up to the to
Speaker 2: the fridge and grab a beer and come back. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I grab a beer. She's like, yeah, you're up a beer?
Speaker 3: Is there a photo of a beef scrambled egg?
Speaker 2: You sure? We don't want red drink like that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: So it was, Yeah, it was strange, like go grab
Speaker 2: a beer, come back down, all right, We'll get four more.
Speaker 2: And it was just like, oh man, this is this
Speaker 2: is great.
Speaker 3: So fun.
Speaker 2: The one thing I do remember that was bad about well,
Speaker 2: first of all, this was the show to where we
Speaker 2: shot on the same set that they did Family Ties.
Speaker 2: Oh so being again, well that's what I said. So
Speaker 2: they brought me into I had Michael J. Fox's dressinger
Speaker 2: come and the first night I was there, I cried
Speaker 2: because I was like all I had ever wanted to
Speaker 2: be was Michael Fox and I'm sitting on the set
Speaker 2: of Family Ties. I'm I'm like, I'm on the stage,
Speaker 2: I'm the star of the show, I'm in his thing,
Speaker 2: and I like, I was like, I never cried, what
Speaker 2: the hell's appening?
Speaker 3: So it was.
Speaker 2: It was one that was one of those moments in
Speaker 2: my career where I was like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 2: actually here. I just come off seven.
Speaker 3: Years of a show.
Speaker 2: But here it was like, I'm here, this is I had.
Speaker 1: I had the exact same experience of being on a
Speaker 1: show that you knew was doomed. When we did Pepper Dennis,
Speaker 1: which is where I met my wife. We were that
Speaker 1: was it was a very hot pilot. The pilot script
Speaker 1: was amazing, and networks were in. Rebecca Remain was the
Speaker 1: star and she was huge at the time. It was
Speaker 1: her big step into acting. She was coming off the
Speaker 1: x Men films and it was like, Oh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. And what happened is she had to go
Speaker 1: do x Men two. So they held us for six
Speaker 1: months and we just had to wait. No one could
Speaker 1: do take other jobs. And when we came back, we
Speaker 1: were shooting our second or third episode and they announced
Speaker 1: the merger between WB and UPN, and we knew we
Speaker 1: were screwed because the president of UPN was taking over
Speaker 1: the new network, and so we were a WB show.
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, well, then that's it, We're done, and
Speaker 1: yet we still had to shoot thirteen episodes, and so
Speaker 1: was this weird thing of like we loved each other,
Speaker 1: we all got along, we all had it, and we
Speaker 1: were like, maybe if we're good enough, it'll still matter.
Speaker 1: So you still kind of give it your all, but
Speaker 1: it's depressing and it's just hard to commit. All of
Speaker 1: our scripts had already been written because of the strike too,
Speaker 1: and then they had to let go of all of
Speaker 1: the writing staff, so we only had our showrunners, and
Speaker 1: I don't even think they could rewrite the scripts, so
Speaker 1: we would just have table reads for no reason because
Speaker 1: it couldn't rewri It was it was. It was so depressing,
Speaker 1: but you know, I got to work with great people,
Speaker 1: like the one writer I became friends with, Jason Catom's
Speaker 1: was on our show, and he was like, he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm bailing to go do this Friday Night Lights series
Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, that movie's good, I bet
Speaker 1: the series is gonna suck. Yeah, went on to you know,
Speaker 1: create Parenthood and he's a legend. But you know, there
Speaker 1: was like great people involved, but we were all just
Speaker 1: sort of like sad, and so it's just this bizarre.
Speaker 3: Like from a job, this is eerily similar. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: yeah it is.
Speaker 2: But it's also it's weird. It's it's getting on a
Speaker 2: boat with your friends knowing four days into the cruise
Speaker 2: it's going to sink exactly. So it's like, well, I
Speaker 2: guess we can party for the four There's a great
Speaker 2: buffet until we actually hit the icebergs, so let's do that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's very very it's a strange sensation. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a strange feeling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's get into the recap. Will or writer
Speaker 3: feel free to jump in at any point, let me
Speaker 3: know if you want to talk about something. But we
Speaker 3: start in the apartment, which obviously is the center stage
Speaker 3: for this entire show. Alex Barnes, played by our Palhill Wilferdell,
Speaker 3: walks in and greets his roommate Todd, who was supposed
Speaker 3: to be doing temp work today. Todd says the gig
Speaker 3: didn't feel quite right because it was in an office.
Speaker 3: Alex tells him it's a concession. A concession will eventually
Speaker 3: have to make. Todd shakes his head. I live in
Speaker 3: New York. If I sit here, it will come. Alex
Speaker 3: hands him a beer and Todd grins, see see game.
Speaker 3: Alex looks at their answering machine, reminding us exactly what
Speaker 3: year this takes place in, and he says, why don't
Speaker 3: you ever play the messages? Todd shrugs, it's always like
Speaker 3: Hi Todd, how are you?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 3: Todd, let's get together. I don't want to be a
Speaker 3: part of that. So he is the Costanza, or he
Speaker 3: is the Kramer, He's the Coristanza.
Speaker 2: He's the Costanza. Yeah, yeah, yes, you're the Jerry, I'm
Speaker 2: the Jerry, He's this Yeah, and then Wiseman's the the
Speaker 2: uh Kramer, and then Natalia's is Elaine.
Speaker 3: Yeah essentially yeah. Alex presses play anyway. The first is
Speaker 3: from Todd's grandpa, who wants his copy of Lonesome Dove back.
Speaker 3: Todd yells at the phone, I gave it back at Thanksgiving. Next,
Speaker 3: a message from Megan Murphy. Alex is thrilled. This is
Speaker 3: a girl who's in New York and would like to
Speaker 3: see him. Alex lets out a scream. Yes. Todd warns him,
Speaker 3: don't be too eager, but Eric says, it's fate. It's
Speaker 3: like the sun has broken through the clouds and made
Speaker 3: everything beautiful.
Speaker 2: Did you call me Eric?
Speaker 1: You did? Ax?
Speaker 3: No, by the way, it actually says Alex, you still
Speaker 3: said Eric. Oh my god. This shows how good Danielle
Speaker 3: is at the job.
Speaker 1: This is this is where you know. By this point,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just enjoying Will being a leading man,
Speaker 1: Like it's so you just you needed your own sitcom,
Speaker 1: like and you know, I'm so used to you being Eric,
Speaker 1: which is way more of a character, you know, especially
Speaker 1: by the end of Win's World, It's like you do
Speaker 1: not have a normal bone in your part. You walk
Speaker 1: into a scene and you're a cartoon character, and so
Speaker 1: it was so cool to see you as just this
Speaker 1: like more like just straightforward, kind of a straight man,
Speaker 1: but you're still very funny. But it was like, yes,
Speaker 1: this guy should have his own show. It makes so
Speaker 1: many running the ship, setting the tone. Oh, it just
Speaker 1: fits you so well.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: A major set piece is their industrial sliding door that
Speaker 3: they have that seems like a big thing. It opens
Speaker 3: up and it's their friend and their other roomy Weissman.
Speaker 3: He says, please tell me that's vegetable soup on the stairs,
Speaker 3: referencing I'm assuming puke.
Speaker 2: Vomit, good vomit joke. Get the show started.
Speaker 3: Alex is still giddy. You're never gonna guess who called Wiseman,
Speaker 3: guesses mister Miller, our middle school gym teacher. Alex is concerned. No,
Speaker 3: but why would he call great gloried? Wiseman admits, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I've just been thinking about him lately. Alex
Speaker 3: is unfazed. Megan Murphy called, she wants to see me tonight.
Speaker 3: Wiseman not as stoked. She thinks she can just waltz
Speaker 3: back into your life after five years. Forget it, Alex,
Speaker 3: We've moved on. Alex fights back. It's the best relationship
Speaker 3: he's ever had. Now.
Speaker 2: One thing I seriously noticed. And if you go back
Speaker 2: and you watch so we had. This is the first scene.
Speaker 2: We're in front of the audience and you can see
Speaker 2: how nervous Josh is and when he puts up his hands,
Speaker 2: his hands are shake and shaking like this, like no, Alex,
Speaker 2: we've moved on.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that's right, I can remember.
Speaker 1: Should do a pilot or redo a pilot. Every show
Speaker 1: should write the first six episodes and shoot like two
Speaker 1: through six and.
Speaker 3: Go back and do the pie. I know that's such
Speaker 3: a good idea, and rewrite that first after two through six.
Speaker 3: You really help. Yeah, you can tell he's nervous.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Todd reminds him that they dated for seven days, but
Speaker 3: Alex calls them the best seven days of his life.
Speaker 3: It was like a movie montage, except they didn't make
Speaker 3: love in the sand. Here comes a real Wilfredell moment.
Speaker 3: By the way, Todd grimaces make love. What are you
Speaker 3: one hundred years old? Alex wants to be romantic, not
Speaker 3: make it all about sex, but Wiseman says it was
Speaker 3: hot though, right, and then Will perfectly turns them, Oh dude,
Speaker 3: you should have been there. Well, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't have been there, great timing. Wiseman was there
Speaker 3: for the tragic ending though, and Todd reminist says, ah, yes.
Speaker 3: Day eight, Alex tells them it wasn't Megan's fault. Her
Speaker 3: dad got transfer to Kenya. Todd wonders why she waited
Speaker 3: five years to call. Then it's a good question, Alex reiterates,
Speaker 3: she was in Kenya. They have a fledgling telecommunications network. Plus,
Speaker 3: all that matters is that he gets a second chance
Speaker 3: with her. That's the fledgling telecommunications is a big piece
Speaker 3: of the commercial for this show. It did right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it aired a couple of times and I was like,
Speaker 3: that's a weird pick, is it really?
Speaker 2: Oh that's what they picked? Is that line? For some
Speaker 2: time I thought you meant that that was an on
Speaker 2: running gag in the episode.
Speaker 3: No, it's the commercial for the show for people to
Speaker 3: tune in. That's like the big joke piece.
Speaker 2: That's what they were Hey, they're trying to viewers.
Speaker 1: Is a mistake. I think this whole first scene should
Speaker 1: have just been should have just been the scene from
Speaker 1: the first episode, the next episode, Yeah, because this just
Speaker 1: has a I'm just I'm lost. I'm like, what is
Speaker 1: the you mean? And also like, you know an age
Speaker 1: of television where you just have three white guys, like
Speaker 1: as the start, it was like, now, distinguishing you guys
Speaker 1: is is hard.
Speaker 3: I was like, Who's who? How do I know which? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's their gimmicks? What's the end? You guys all kind
Speaker 1: of are?
Speaker 2: They eventually bring in a white lady though.
Speaker 1: But you got the other one kind of of the
Speaker 1: same age, You're the same type in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm I'm not sure what the
Speaker 1: inn is here, Like, what's the conflict? What's the difference?
Speaker 1: Is everybody's just too generic.
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: And I'm sure they got sharper as it went along.
Speaker 3: They do they do. Yeah, I did think to myself,
Speaker 3: like what is the difference between the three? But you
Speaker 3: do get that leader, yeah.
Speaker 1: Which is great.
Speaker 2: You're right if you see if you open in that
Speaker 2: restaurant scene from the second one and you just delineate
Speaker 2: who we all are, it does you all.
Speaker 1: Want the same thing? Different angles? And different results.
Speaker 3: Perfect. Alex is proud he's no longer a dumb college kid.
Speaker 3: You ate Captain Crunch for dinner. He stuffs a full
Speaker 3: pizza slice in his mouth, then continues with his mouth class.
Speaker 3: I'm a moderately successful guy who happens to run his
Speaker 3: own music. Webon business with the food.
Speaker 2: Gotta do it.
Speaker 3: Wiseman reminds him their young guys with no attachments, they
Speaker 3: can get any girl they want. Todd gives them a
Speaker 3: knowing look and Wiseman size Theoretically. Alex says, Megan wasn't
Speaker 3: just any girl. All she had to do was put
Speaker 3: her hand on his arm. Todd rolls his eyes. Oh,
Speaker 3: here we go, the old double squeeze. Alex is adam,
Speaker 3: and it was amazing. She'd stare in your eyes, the
Speaker 3: corners of her mouth would curl ever so slightly, and
Speaker 3: when you think it couldn't get any better, she'd give
Speaker 3: you the squeeze. He mimics the action on Wiseman's arm,
Speaker 3: forcing him to blurt out, I could be ready by seven.
Speaker 3: We see a sped up exterior and we all know
Speaker 3: that means day is turning tonight. Oh yeah, we're back
Speaker 3: in the apartment. Probably an argument I could make two
Speaker 3: for your pilot to not have the first two scenes
Speaker 3: in the same space. Ye whatever. Alex is putting the
Speaker 3: finishing touches on his date night fit. He tries ironing
Speaker 3: his shirt while still wearing it, and he screams in pain.
Speaker 3: Funny scene. Wiseman walks by with a basket of laundry.
Speaker 3: Alex asks what are those? He responds, sexy sheets. This
Speaker 3: is his Kramer by the way. At this point, yeah,
Speaker 3: Alex mocks him. Are those to go along with your
Speaker 3: sexy Batman comforter? Were you Batman?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'd already done. We were already done by
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, small means nobody knew I was Batman because it's.
Speaker 1: Still I thought you were gonna maybe say to go
Speaker 1: along with your Batman underwear, and then it would be
Speaker 1: a very will for Delman.
Speaker 2: I know, will fredil moment. Yes, No, I was, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's right as I heard it last night too. I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't like making fun of Batman, right, not.
Speaker 3: Right, not right, right, not right, but they definitely reference
Speaker 3: it because of you, they do.
Speaker 1: Wiseman is going, this is even this is a sort
Speaker 1: of a better intro to your characters, because this says,
Speaker 1: these guys don't know how to be adults yet. They're
Speaker 1: living this adult life, but they don't know how to iron.
Speaker 1: They have batman, you know, blankets like that says the story.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, now I know who these people are.
Speaker 1: They're like trying to be grown ups, but they're still
Speaker 1: not grown up yet. They don't know how to do
Speaker 1: certain things. That's like describes way better than the first scene.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 3: Wiseman is going to the laundry mat and there are
Speaker 3: women at the laundry mat. These sexy sheets are bait.
Speaker 3: We hear a buzz and Wiseman opens the door to
Speaker 3: see a cute girl, Kasey Parker. Wiseman asker, what do
Speaker 3: you think of these sexy sheets? She bluntly responds, could
Speaker 3: you not stand so close to me? Did somebody here
Speaker 3: to call for a temp?
Speaker 2: Great entrance?
Speaker 3: Me not stand so close to me? And Wiseman nervously
Speaker 3: shuffles backwards. Alex said it was him and wishes Wiseman
Speaker 3: good night, making it obvious he needs to leave. As
Speaker 3: Wiseman awkwardly leaves, Alex tells her there are some new
Speaker 3: ads that need to go up on his website tonight
Speaker 3: he do it himself, but he has a date and
Speaker 3: starts to get into the complicated Megan situation before realizing
Speaker 3: she doesn't need to know this at all. He goes
Speaker 3: to grab her some water in case. He takes a
Speaker 3: seat on the couch, but she immediately springs up. We
Speaker 3: hear a groan come from underneath some pillows. It's taught.
Speaker 3: He thanks her for cracking his bag. You're so sweaty.
Speaker 3: Also a commercial moment again, Oh was it? Okay? I'm
Speaker 3: just because I want to know why did people not
Speaker 3: tune in? Why was it the least watch network show?
Speaker 3: So I watched some commercials and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't sell it, that's why. Yeah. Alex returns with
Speaker 3: the water and she asks, there isn't a toothless kid
Speaker 3: with a banjo in the other room, is there? He
Speaker 3: assures her Todd is harmless deliverance reference.
Speaker 2: Ye, yeah, gotta be. I just saw how sweaty he was.
Speaker 2: He's obviously under that blanket for like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: I'm sure. He says, It's all basic stuff and gives
Speaker 3: her a quick rundown of the task. He gives her
Speaker 3: his cell phone number in case she needs it as
Speaker 3: he's leaving. Uh, he tells Casey, if Todd gets cranky,
Speaker 3: just put on dark side of the moon, give him
Speaker 3: a beer, and he'll go right to sleep. And then
Speaker 3: she sort of pets his head. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this scene describes all these characters way better. And
Speaker 1: it should have been her starting the show now because
Speaker 1: she's coming into this world and has to meet these
Speaker 1: three guys and figure out who they are. And I
Speaker 1: would have been it. So it should have started with
Speaker 1: her like getting ready for her intempt job and then
Speaker 1: letting her be the audience surget into this world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. We go to the We go to
Speaker 3: the laundry mat, which would have been good too because
Speaker 3: it was a second scene outside of the set. Wiseman
Speaker 3: is stuffing the sexy sheets into a washing machine and
Speaker 3: we hear a seductive voice say, hey, sexy sheets. He
Speaker 3: stares at the off camera woman with a huge grin
Speaker 3: on his face. Very gramer again. We go to we
Speaker 3: go to break break, We go we go to a
Speaker 3: commercial break on YouTube. Very cool part. We could see all.
Speaker 1: And that's when I wrote down the real death knell
Speaker 1: for this show was that there was an Osbourne's and
Speaker 1: I was like, right, this is when reality was taking over.
Speaker 1: So shows like this, like just good old fashioned sitcoms
Speaker 1: were not doing well. Everybody was tuning in to watch
Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne and his family cutting up this stuff in
Speaker 1: their kitchen.
Speaker 2: Sweet Life, Simple Life. That was so that's what.
Speaker 1: So when I saw the promo for that, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, it's like that's what was happening, and it's
Speaker 1: like nobody was watching these shows.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, on the more positive side, we do get
Speaker 3: a pretty great carat top one Hunter collect commercial, which
Speaker 3: I was excited to see. We are now in the restaurant.
Speaker 3: Alex is nervously pacing waiting for Megan to arrive. She
Speaker 3: eventually walks through the door. They look at each other
Speaker 3: and on say hello. Alex makes his way over to her,
Speaker 3: but abruptly trips on a stair. He eventually gets to
Speaker 3: turn and passionately they kiss. She sort of kisses him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she grabs me.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Alex is shocked. Wow, it's like riding a bike.
Speaker 3: She nervously giggles. She wasn't planning on doing that, but
Speaker 3: just seeing him made her. He agrees and says she
Speaker 3: looks amazing. He suggests they grab a table, but Megan
Speaker 3: stops him. She's a little heirist. There's something she needs
Speaker 3: to give him. She hands Alex something and he excitedly
Speaker 3: responds to my seventh grade swim medal. I've been looking
Speaker 3: for this forever. She's sorry she took it, but she
Speaker 3: knew it was his good luck charm and she wanted
Speaker 3: something to remember him by. He looks it over and
Speaker 3: then gives it back. He insists she keep it. You
Speaker 3: can always get another one. Seventh readers are really slowe This.
Speaker 2: Is also you know, one of the problems I have
Speaker 2: when I watched the show is this is pretty close
Speaker 2: to peak anxiety years for me. Really, So this whole
Speaker 2: thing was, This.
Speaker 3: Entire run of these shows was really tough.
Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons why Jen and I like that,
Speaker 2: you know, because I liked her so much. But I
Speaker 2: was just such in a dark place at the time
Speaker 2: that it just was never gonna work. When you're when
Speaker 2: you're dealing with that kind of mental illness, you're never
Speaker 2: gonna hey, let's jump into a relationship.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't. In the car, can't tell, will you
Speaker 3: look good?
Speaker 1: And thank you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But it's Yeah, the.
Speaker 1: Guest cast is so good. I mean, she's amazing and
Speaker 1: the other woman is amazing, to the degree that if
Speaker 1: they weren't playing crazy characters, they might be becoming regulars.
Speaker 1: At this point the.
Speaker 3: Wheel back, I think they can reel them back a little.
Speaker 1: But at this moment when they you guys just kissed,
Speaker 1: I was like, is she going to become a regular?
Speaker 1: Is that? You know? Is this going to be like
Speaker 1: friends where there's three girls and three guys but ends
Speaker 1: up being No. The point of this episode is, you know,
Speaker 1: the crazy girl trope, like the crazy dates that go
Speaker 1: so wrong, but actually like it could have gone a
Speaker 1: different way, Like it could have you know, because they're
Speaker 1: so good, they're the acting is amazing.
Speaker 3: A little later in the restaurant, Alex and Megan are
Speaker 3: now at a table and he's telling her about the
Speaker 3: time he was stuck on a ski lift in Vermont
Speaker 3: for four hours. She says she's never gonna get on
Speaker 3: a ski lift. She's terrified of heights. Alex is confused
Speaker 3: she took him rock climbing once she explains that was
Speaker 3: before the plane crash. She was in a twelve person
Speaker 3: plane headed in Na Robi and they got struck by lightning.
Speaker 3: I love his response.
Speaker 2: It's just like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: But that's what you're You're acting is perfect because you're like,
Speaker 1: this sounds crazy. You're you're saying all the right things,
Speaker 1: but your tone is like, I think, are you joking?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 3: I love it you're listening in horror. She continues. The
Speaker 3: worst part is it dislotted a piece of the windshield,
Speaker 3: which not the pilot out. I was closest. I was
Speaker 3: the closest person to the cockpit, so I grabbed the controls,
Speaker 3: and the guys in the tower talked me down. Alex
Speaker 3: is dumbfounded. You landed a plane. Also good if I'm
Speaker 3: the network and I'm arguing, get to a quicker. This
Speaker 3: is what you get too quickly.
Speaker 2: I felt the same thing. I felt it picked up
Speaker 2: especially here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, at first I was terrified, But to tell
Speaker 3: you the truth, it's all all like driving a car.
Speaker 3: Just then, Wiseman and his new laundry Matt Lover, who
Speaker 3: actually kind of looks like him, right yeah, walks into
Speaker 3: the restaurant, arm in arm. She looks around and pressed,
Speaker 3: this place is fancy, Weisman adds, and reasonable and unreasonable
Speaker 3: didn't necessarily know what the joke was other than the
Speaker 3: fact that you read it like craver. But yeah, reasonable,
Speaker 3: All right. We're back in the apartment. Casey's hard at
Speaker 3: work on the computer when Todd, who was holding a
Speaker 3: huge sandwich, points out, you've been working for forty five
Speaker 3: minutes straight. You are way overdue for a break. She sighs.
Speaker 3: She's expected to be further along, but someone spilled chocolate
Speaker 3: milk on her to do list. Todd explains he was
Speaker 3: startled by the modem, another timely reference for people who
Speaker 3: don't know. Modems used to be very loud when you
Speaker 3: logged into the.
Speaker 2: Internet, things like huge screams that sandwich looks so good,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so good, and the sandwich looks so good.
Speaker 3: Great food on TV. Yes, just look great. Yeah, he explains,
Speaker 3: I'm attempt too. Frankly, this whole period in work ethic thing,
Speaker 3: it's kind of run counter It kind of runs counter
Speaker 3: to the whole temp philosophy. Casey asked why Alex didn't
Speaker 3: just use Todd as attempt, and Todd explains he had
Speaker 3: other important matters to attend to, and he takes a
Speaker 3: ridiculous bite of that giant sandwich. Yeah, Casey stares at
Speaker 3: the sandwich. Is there a waffle in there? With a mouthful?
Speaker 3: He asked, what do you want one?
Speaker 2: I love though his reading of that too, yeah you
Speaker 2: want it is like a smile on his face. It's
Speaker 2: so great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were starting. We're starting to pick up how
Speaker 3: these three guys could be together, right, Like we're starting
Speaker 3: to feel it and starting to understand their characters. Casey's
Speaker 3: had enough. She doesn't want a sandwich or chocolate milk.
Speaker 3: She doesn't want to play risk or compare how tall
Speaker 3: they are, and she really doesn't want to talk to
Speaker 3: his grandfather on the phone again. Maybe a rewrite for
Speaker 3: the button.
Speaker 2: I would I thought this said the better button than
Speaker 2: that better button. Maybe thought the same thing.
Speaker 3: We're back at the restaurant, cheap pilot. As far as sets, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I also remember just how deep all the
Speaker 2: sets were so hard Deep Boy meets World had really
Speaker 2: shallow sets. We were just used to, like the classroom
Speaker 2: and even the hallway. We were kind of not upstage
Speaker 2: a whole lot. Just so yeah, coming into kind of
Speaker 2: shows where it's like, all right, now we're gonna wheel
Speaker 2: the cameras back to the back part of it's like,
Speaker 2: oh god, okay, that's totally different.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was strange. Back at the restaurant, Wiseman's
Speaker 3: telling his date that being a dental assistant is a
Speaker 3: lot cooler than people think. If you wanted, I could
Speaker 3: wipen your teeth to night. She wonders if he has
Speaker 3: any plans to become a dentist. He says, now, he
Speaker 3: has other aspirations, but probably will stay in teeth in
Speaker 3: some capacity, possibly a consultant, a consultant teeth, consultant teeth.
Speaker 3: Because she says, this is fun. She thought she was
Speaker 3: going to spend the night doing laundry, but here she
Speaker 3: is with him. Then the waiter arrives and hands them
Speaker 3: two wineglasses, and she turns and shouts time. It was
Speaker 3: just incredible. Read yeah, so good, startling the audience too.
Speaker 3: It's so good. Wiseman is shocked. It's so funny. I
Speaker 3: mean that that might be my biggest laugh for the episode.
Speaker 3: It was great. It was great, good. Yeah. The waiter
Speaker 3: apologize in it and assures her the appetizers will be
Speaker 3: right out. She scoffs they better be. She turns to
Speaker 3: Wiseman as if nothing happens, So that's what I do.
Speaker 3: He responds another great read prison Guard, prison card. So good.
Speaker 3: Then over at Alex and Meghan's table, he seems annoyed.
Speaker 3: So you invented Pokemon? She nods, Yeah, remember how I
Speaker 3: used a doodle? Alex Blutley states, not really. She continues,
Speaker 3: I had this Japanese penpal, and every time i'd write her,
Speaker 3: I'd draw these little cartoons in the margin. Next thing
Speaker 3: I know, they're on TV and she never calls me again.
Speaker 3: Alex face out, Wow.
Speaker 2: I remember distinctly remember her because if memory serves, she's
Speaker 2: from Chicago and she'd hated how she could she say pan,
Speaker 2: pale and sad. If you listen to it again, she's like,
Speaker 2: I have this pan pal. I can't get the Chicago
Speaker 2: out of them. It's like, it's fine.
Speaker 1: Have you guys had this conversation with people before where
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you know I wrote that I invented
Speaker 1: Harry Potter. It's like the biggest red flag for me
Speaker 1: when somebody's like, well, I would have been a great
Speaker 1: filmmaker except somebody stole my idea. And you're always like,
Speaker 1: you mean the boy Wizard or it's always just I'm like,
Speaker 1: but maybe it was actually just well written. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: really good and your version sucked. Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah generic, they get too where it's like I really
Speaker 2: came up with an idea for a submarine movie. It's like, what,
Speaker 2: that's it. There's a lot of them, that's what you got,
Speaker 2: because there's plenty of those.
Speaker 3: It's the Christen Wig character that like I created. It
Speaker 3: was always up upping someone on sl Well, I actually
Speaker 3: I built the Titanic. Yes, Megan is beaming. Old feelings
Speaker 3: are resurfacing. She asked, what about you? He just stares
Speaker 3: back with a fake grin. It's hard to describe what
Speaker 3: I'm feeling right now. We go to another commercial break.
Speaker 3: This time we get a Jack and dexter ad and
Speaker 3: one of those MasterCard ads where something ends up priceless.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they are all And we also get a
Speaker 1: promo for as If yep that says it's not a
Speaker 1: reality showy, it feels like one or whatever. It has
Speaker 1: like a line where I was like, again, realities take
Speaker 1: it over, yeep, Hey, especially for smaller networks.
Speaker 2: Cheaper cheap, yes, up there. Yeah, put a bunch of
Speaker 2: people in the house and film them.
Speaker 3: Does not sell me on as if either. Back in
Speaker 3: the apartment, Casey stands up from the desk and stretches
Speaker 3: before making her way to the living room. Todd, who's
Speaker 3: on the couch, asked what she's doing. She says she's
Speaker 3: taking a five minute break, and Todd is pleased you're
Speaker 3: coming to the dark side. She's actually just downloading some logos,
Speaker 3: but if it makes him feel any better, she's ready
Speaker 3: to have that conversation about how much Foghorn Leghorn weighs
Speaker 3: in real life. Todd notes, well, he's actually times bigger
Speaker 3: than any other chickens. Casey corrects him, Actually, I'm not
Speaker 3: ready for this conversation. Todd tells her it's okay, his
Speaker 3: favorite show's coming on. Yes, really, who's in the center square?
Speaker 3: He reveals it's actually Antiques Roadshow. Nice little storyline here,
Speaker 3: I thought anti.
Speaker 2: Does anybody remember what other famous sitcom characters really connect
Speaker 2: over Antiques Roadshow?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So one of the best episodes of Fraser is Fraser
Speaker 2: his dad and Niles turn it into a drinking game,
Speaker 2: which is kind of what this is. Yeah, so they're
Speaker 2: like all right, all right, Sherry, and they're like all right,
Speaker 2: which way anytime somebody says it was like linoleum, you've
Speaker 2: got well, this isn't real, this is actually ananoleum.
Speaker 1: Oh drink drink joke here man, the same show. They
Speaker 1: take that from Fraser then directly, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3: Fraser was before this had Yeah, weird Casey Surprise. Seriously,
Speaker 3: that's weird. I kind of like that show. He wonders
Speaker 3: why it's so weird? Do they like the same show?
Speaker 3: And Casey, without missing a beat, just says, because you
Speaker 3: use books as plates.
Speaker 1: Which is a great line character Yea, yeah, totally really good.
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, you're learning so much about the characters here again,
Speaker 3: could have went faster. Back at the restaurant, Wiseman tells
Speaker 3: his date that he was on the high school football team.
Speaker 3: She's interested, and that's what position he played, He grins, owl.
Speaker 3: I was the mascot. She loves football. She went to
Speaker 3: the super Bowl in Tampa, great town. Just don't ever
Speaker 3: punch a cop. They sit in silence. They sit in
Speaker 3: silence as she stares him down.
Speaker 2: Had this happen? Why had this happened? I was dating
Speaker 2: a girl back in the day and getting along great
Speaker 2: out for a while, and she told me. She's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: except when I got arrested for beating up that cop
Speaker 2: and I went what And she's like, yeah, I was
Speaker 2: walking out of a bar and somebody grabbed me and
Speaker 2: spun me around and I turned around swinging, and I
Speaker 2: punched twice and I looked up and it was a
Speaker 2: CoP's like and I was in jail, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: well it was nice beating you.
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. Yeah, she'd be fun. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Back over at Alex and Meghan's table, she's talking about Sasquatch.
Speaker 3: I didn't believe in him either until this one night
Speaker 3: on my uncle's boat. Alex cuts her off. Okay, Meghan,
Speaker 3: before you get into that, there's something I really need
Speaker 3: to know. She smiles. What is it. I'll tell you anything.
Speaker 3: He gives a fake laugh. I know you will. He
Speaker 3: takes a deep breath. When we said goodbye, you told
Speaker 3: me it was because your family was moving to Kenya.
Speaker 3: Was that the truth? She stutters, Well, not entirely. We
Speaker 3: didn't move until later that summer. Alex is confused. Then
Speaker 3: why did you stop seeing me? She nervously says. It's
Speaker 3: hard to talk about. He says it was really a
Speaker 3: significant point in my life. Whatever it is, I can
Speaker 3: handle it. She blurts out. I was sleeping with Professor Markowitz.
Speaker 3: I had to do it. He threatened to fail me.
Speaker 3: Alex is shocked. But he was gay in ninety. She
Speaker 3: strokes his arm. For what it's worth, whenever I was
Speaker 3: with him, I was thinking of you. He gives it
Speaker 3: a nervous grin and in response, is that a good thing?
Speaker 2: I just want to I wanted to hear Rusties, but
Speaker 2: he was gay and ninety I wanted to do Rusty's
Speaker 2: Russy's saying.
Speaker 3: The silence is broken by a familiar voice, Hey, you
Speaker 3: did these chicken fingers come off a chicken's ass? It's
Speaker 3: Wiseman's date yelling again at the waiter. Alex makes eye
Speaker 3: contact with Wiseman and angrily motions towards the bathroom with
Speaker 3: his eyes. Uh not one of my favorite overall scenes.
Speaker 1: Now, I mean, I think your character needs a little
Speaker 1: bit of specificity, Like I think for me, like just
Speaker 1: listening to this recap, like, oh, it would have been
Speaker 1: great if you were like a workaholic, like you were
Speaker 1: the kid who were like came out of college. I
Speaker 1: just want to focus on my career and it worked,
Speaker 1: but you missed out on dating. You know that those
Speaker 1: years where you would have and so you're pining after
Speaker 1: your old girlfriend because you haven't done anything else.
Speaker 2: So that would have like given me a way in
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: Right. Oh, he's the guy who spent way too much
Speaker 1: time on computers and working to make money and now
Speaker 1: least having success. He's realizing he's missing this other part
Speaker 1: of his life, so he's diving in. And I would
Speaker 1: have been like, Okay, I'm with this guy as it is.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're kind of just a generic dude,
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing like that. Yeah, exactly. It would have
Speaker 1: been nice to have an angle.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The two of them burst into the bathroom in
Speaker 3: Wiseman and let's out of sigh relief. Thank god you're here,
Speaker 3: Alex reminds him. Of course I'm here. I told you
Speaker 3: I was coming here. What are you doing? Wiseman explains,
Speaker 3: I needed a cool restaurant. I met this girl at
Speaker 3: the Laundry Mountain. We just kind of clicked. Alex sarcastically responds,
Speaker 3: she seems wonderful, great, grateful, great read. Wiseman admits, I'm scared.
Speaker 3: I'm in way over my head. Alex groans, I know
Speaker 3: me too. Meghan's crazy. Everything that comes out of her
Speaker 3: mouth is a lie. Wiseman asks, beautiful, wonderful Meghan from college.
Speaker 3: Alex isn't even sure she went to college. Did you
Speaker 3: ever see her go to class? Because I never saw
Speaker 3: her go to class. Wiseman jumps on the sink counter
Speaker 3: and reaches for a window. Alex says, what's what are
Speaker 3: you doing? Wiseman says they got to get out of here.
Speaker 3: Alex says he can't leave. Megan's got that good luck medal.
Speaker 3: Wiseman doesn't hesitate, Well, good luck see you on the
Speaker 3: other side. Alex pulls him down, and Wiseman's confused. Why
Speaker 3: do you want to go back in there for your
Speaker 3: stupid seventh grade swimming medal. Alex insists it's not stupid.
Speaker 3: It means something to him. Plus he doesn't want Meghan.
Speaker 3: There's a dinosaur skeleton under my house Murphy to have it.
Speaker 2: But you get I mean, I get that now she's
Speaker 2: lying to him, so he sees another side of her.
Speaker 2: But he hasn't had the medal for years, and then
Speaker 2: he gave it back to her.
Speaker 1: That's but it needs to be connected to his character
Speaker 1: in some way, like, you know, this is the one
Speaker 1: thing that I did that I don't know somehow if
Speaker 1: it was it was something that because I love the
Speaker 1: Hyjenks of like we got to get this away from her,
Speaker 1: but like if it was connected to your character in
Speaker 1: a way, like oh, if I could just get this back,
Speaker 1: this was the last time I, you know, won something
Speaker 1: that my mom was proud of, you know, or like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, just give me.
Speaker 2: One time in my life I was athletic something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I thought the same thing. I was, like,
Speaker 2: but you handed it back to her. I mean, I
Speaker 2: know she hasn't lied to you yet, but you still couldn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know. You didn't even really you know, right,
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this, yeah exactly. Wiseman asked how he's going
Speaker 3: to get it back. Alex doesn't know. That's where you
Speaker 3: come in. Wiseman growns, I'm sitting in water again. Maybe
Speaker 3: maybe would have pitched a better out there.
Speaker 2: I also it was I distinctly remember something about his
Speaker 2: line read because it was like that to me, that
Speaker 2: couldn't have been the best read. It was almost like
Speaker 2: it was so thrown away that it was a very
Speaker 2: strange read.
Speaker 3: For that line. It was a whisper for an out.
Speaker 3: Yeah in the apartment, Casey's all finished. Todd congrad her,
Speaker 3: and she proudly states I even did some extra stuff
Speaker 3: he didn't ask for. Can you sign my time card?
Speaker 3: Todd nod. Sure, I'll put down you for forty hours.
Speaker 3: Casey laughs and sits out next to him to watch
Speaker 3: Antique's Roadshow. Todd explains that a woman thinks her toaster
Speaker 3: was built by the Shakers in the mid nineteenth century,
Speaker 3: and Casey points out that the microwave he's referring to
Speaker 3: is actually a Victorian pie chest. Todd rolls his eyes. Now,
Speaker 3: you're just making stuff up. She assures him she's not,
Speaker 3: and Todd wants to make a bet. She says she
Speaker 3: doesn't have any extra money to throw away, and Todd
Speaker 3: lee slightly remarksable, then let's bet something else. She instantly asked,
Speaker 3: like what, and they smile at each other. I did
Speaker 3: not think Strip Antiques Roadshow first thing. The first starts myself.
Speaker 3: I was like, I wonder what this game is going
Speaker 3: to be funny. At the restaurant, Alex makes his way
Speaker 3: back to Megan, with Wiseman following close behind, then ducking
Speaker 3: under the table. Meghan suggests they just skipped asert and
Speaker 3: heads straight back to the hotel. She is d two
Speaker 3: earl two ear. Alex immediately shouts no, he just really
Speaker 3: loves dessert. She brushes it off. She's thinking of extending
Speaker 3: her state. What do you think about that? Meanwhile, Wise
Speaker 3: picking up strange objects off the floor, examining them. Alex
Speaker 3: answers her, I think that sounds like I might get expensive,
Speaker 3: She smirks, not if I stay with you. She kicks
Speaker 3: her leg out underneath the table and it almost hits
Speaker 3: Wiseman in the face. He watches her foot bounce back
Speaker 3: and forth in amusement, which was an extra shock.
Speaker 2: The whole thing underneath the table is really weird to
Speaker 2: like he didn't need any of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alex says he lives in a loft apartment in
Speaker 3: Chinatown with these two other guys, and they actually can't
Speaker 3: have any people stay over. It's in their lease. Wiseman's
Speaker 3: now reaching for Megan's handbag so he can grab the medal.
Speaker 3: Then we hear a woman's voice ask what are you
Speaker 3: doing down there? It's his date standing well above him
Speaker 3: with her arms crossed. He gets up in waves good evening.
Speaker 3: Alex thinks, fast, you remember Wiseman, right, We're always playing
Speaker 3: that game to see you can sneak up on each other.
Speaker 3: He turns to Wiseman, you almost got me their pal,
Speaker 3: and they playfully fight each other, sort of throwing their
Speaker 3: arms the restaurant again. Some time has passed. The two
Speaker 3: couples have now moved in down bigs.
Speaker 1: A double day, moved into a wacky double.
Speaker 3: Date bitcom one O one. They all sit together. Wiseman's
Speaker 3: date is telling Meghan, you can't do New York in
Speaker 3: a weekend. You have to stay. Megan agrees, I wanted
Speaker 3: to stay, but Alex's least doesn't allow guest. Wiseman's blurts out,
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. That sucks. That sucks. Alex gives
Speaker 3: him a look and begins to push Meghan's purse over
Speaker 3: to him under the table to get that medal. Instead,
Speaker 3: the purse hits Wiseman's date and they start to play
Speaker 3: foot seat with Alex, which is like, she's down to
Speaker 3: party this mone she is this one. Yeah, she seems excited.
Speaker 3: She tells Megan, Oh, I'm gonna ski this weekend. You
Speaker 3: could stay at my place. Megan's excited you ski the
Speaker 3: date response, Yeah, I almost made the Olympic ski team,
Speaker 3: Megan guess, so did I, but right before the trials
Speaker 3: I got stuck on a ski lift in Vermont. By
Speaker 3: the time they got me down, my fingers were actually
Speaker 3: turning blue. So she's a psychopathy. Yeah, yeah, this is
Speaker 3: Alex's story.
Speaker 1: Very smart because you're gonna steal somebody's story, don't take
Speaker 1: it from them. Twenty minutes, your audience, your audience.
Speaker 3: True psychopath. He has to get out of his date,
Speaker 3: so he pretends to choke. The girls try to help him,
Speaker 3: and Wiseman is trying to figure this out. Are you choking?
Speaker 3: Alex gives him a look, and Wiseman loudly exclaims, oh,
Speaker 3: I get it. It's an allergic action, sort of figuring
Speaker 3: out that this is not real. Just then, Wiseman reaches
Speaker 3: into Megan's bag gets the metal. While all the girls
Speaker 3: are frantically trying to help Alex, Wiseman's date shouts out,
Speaker 3: I know CPR, and Alex looks horrified. This is going
Speaker 3: too far. Wiseman says he's gonna take him to the
Speaker 3: emergency room, and Meghan insists that she goes with him.
Speaker 3: Alex pauses his allergic reaction. Had to replay this forty
Speaker 3: two times to figure out the line. The line is no,
Speaker 3: the cab won't stop for four two. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: even the subtitles got it wrong. Oh really yeah. Wiseman
Speaker 3: tells the women to stay at the restaurant and settle
Speaker 3: the bill, and the guy's bolt out the door. In
Speaker 3: the taxi, Alex is still in eye. I can't believe
Speaker 3: she told you that ski lift story, Wiseman wonders. Didn't
Speaker 3: something like that happen to you? He responds, something exactly
Speaker 3: like that happened to me. Wiseman is shocked. Wow, what
Speaker 3: are the chances? Alex explained, she stole my story. She's insane.
Speaker 3: Wiseman tries to make him feel better. At least Meghan
Speaker 3: didn't hold the waiter's hand over a candle to get
Speaker 3: more breadsticks. Alex. Alex is depressed. He had this vision
Speaker 3: of how everything was going to be, and now it's
Speaker 3: just gone. Wiseman admits, I'm with you, pal, and I
Speaker 3: hopes for Joe Lean. Alex gets his metal from Wiseman
Speaker 3: and excitedly puts it around his neck. Yeah. Then he
Speaker 3: realizes maybe I'll just wear it on the inside and
Speaker 3: tucks in his shirt. Again. Don't really know the joke there.
Speaker 2: No, just just that it's I think it's supposed to
Speaker 2: be like two mouths, not cool to wear your seventh
Speaker 2: grade metal. But but this is the scene where buttons buttons.
Speaker 1: But this is also the scene where you can thematically
Speaker 1: say what the show is about. Like, yes, you know,
Speaker 1: we were trying to be grown ups tonight were I
Speaker 1: thought we were ready to date and be you know,
Speaker 1: but I still feel like a little kid. Then you
Speaker 1: have the little kid joke about I got my seventh
Speaker 1: grade metal back. It's like something about the fact that
Speaker 1: you're stuck between childhood and college in the random say it.
Speaker 1: Have the character say some version of that, you know,
Speaker 1: in a real personal, non thematic way, But that says
Speaker 1: what the name of the show is, Like, I guess
Speaker 1: we're not ready yet. We thought we could do it,
Speaker 1: but we'll try again next week. You know.
Speaker 2: Is in this part of my life, I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm forty, and in this part of my life, I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm fortunate.
Speaker 1: I'm so ready to I'm running a business. Why can't
Speaker 1: I date a woman? And I can't even date a
Speaker 1: woman from my childhood?
Speaker 3: And it's on yours back. Now that I have time,
Speaker 3: I'm just picking the wrong people or something like that,
Speaker 3: you know, like nowaday exactly all right. Back at the apartment,
Speaker 3: Todd and Casey are still on the couch, but now
Speaker 3: Todd is just in his underwear. They're shouting at the TV.
Speaker 3: Very invested in an antique Troe show. Casey guesses six
Speaker 3: thousand dollars minimum. Todd scoffs, are you blind? That's not
Speaker 3: even mahogany, that's not even wood. That's some kind of
Speaker 3: naga crap that my spidy sense is telling me could
Speaker 3: only have come from one decade. The man on the
Speaker 3: TV cuts him off production made in the seventies. Todd
Speaker 3: stands up victory. He turns to Casey, Now get that
Speaker 3: shirt off. She takes off her sweater to reveal a
Speaker 3: tank top underneath. Todd complains, that's not fair. She laughs,
Speaker 3: it's was cold this morning. Did you expect to see
Speaker 3: me in my lacy, skimpy sea through bra. Todd sits
Speaker 3: back down. He's only one item away. Casey laughs, Yeah,
Speaker 3: from being naked. I am so much better at this
Speaker 3: than you Todd's size. Oh no, it's over, Casey jumps
Speaker 3: up and exclaims, I won real jump there in the script,
Speaker 3: they didn't couldn't fit one more of those like television backs.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: They have good chemistry, by the way, very good. Them
Speaker 2: together are really really good. I wanted to see, like
Speaker 2: moving forward as an audience member. I was excited to
Speaker 2: see where that relationship was.
Speaker 1: This is that what happened over the course.
Speaker 2: I believe so, But yeah, I think so. And it's
Speaker 2: there's just something about that that's really fun. Like I
Speaker 2: remember certain little things that popped up in other episodes
Speaker 2: were laugh out loud funny. I remember, you know, you
Speaker 2: remember the Sopranos, the the woman who goes undercover to
Speaker 2: be aids. Oh, yeah, she's a friend.
Speaker 3: She's great.
Speaker 2: So she came on as a guest star. She was
Speaker 2: actually shooting Sopranos at the time. She couldn't tell us
Speaker 2: what she was doing, but she came on as a
Speaker 2: guest star, and she shows up as one of his
Speaker 2: He's like, I have this kind of stalker client who
Speaker 2: keeps getting her teeth cleaned, and so she just keeps
Speaker 2: showing up to get her teeth clean, and the last
Speaker 2: time he walks in, she's butt naked in the chair,
Speaker 2: and they actually shot it where she's naked in the chair,
Speaker 2: so she's covered by like the dental slates, but she's
Speaker 2: looks like she's just and he just walks back in
Speaker 2: and she's just like naked in the chair. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: we did things that were adult and very funny, but
Speaker 2: I don't remember how cookey if they were to the
Speaker 2: actual stories the problem I love if they only aired four,
Speaker 2: I wonder if we could even get the other seven.
Speaker 3: I got to get in touch with lesbian rigor, because
Speaker 3: I bet you they have them. It's fun to Todd
Speaker 3: stands to meet her at eye level. You just got lucky.
Speaker 3: They both stare at each other for a moment. They
Speaker 3: kisses looming. A voiceover from the TV announces up next
Speaker 3: Rutherford B. Hayes a biography. Todd breaks the ice. Well
Speaker 3: now it's just awkward.
Speaker 2: Now it's just awkward.
Speaker 3: Could have maybe come up with a better thing that
Speaker 3: made it awkward? Also?
Speaker 1: I know?
Speaker 3: Then behave yeah, yeah. Then we hear the lock begin
Speaker 3: to juggle, and Casey scrambles to grab her sweater and
Speaker 3: runs into a different room. The guys walk in to
Speaker 3: see Todd justin is underwear. Alex and Wiseman just stare
Speaker 3: at him. Todd waves as though nothing's out of the ordinary.
Speaker 3: Wiseman turns Alex. At least he's not wearing a helmet
Speaker 3: this time. Todd asked the guys what went wrong? They're
Speaker 3: back at nine thirty. Alex Bluntley states, yeah, Meghan was psycho.
Speaker 3: Wiseman wonders how he didn't know that in college. Sarcastically wonders,
Speaker 3: g I was eighteen and she was the first girl
Speaker 3: willing to sleep with me. How did I overlook that?
Speaker 3: Todd says, there's no need to sweat it. This is
Speaker 3: just a reminder to never pin your hopes on a
Speaker 3: fantasy girl. Fantasies, by definition, are perfect. Alex declares that
Speaker 3: one good thing did come out of this though. Up
Speaker 3: until now, every girl he's dated he's compared to Megan,
Speaker 3: and none of them have ever come close. Now, any
Speaker 3: girl with a valid driver's license is looking real good.
Speaker 3: Great will read. Wiseman nods, welcome to my world. Casey
Speaker 3: then returns clothed. Alex and Wiseman immediately stand at attention
Speaker 3: when they see her. She asks how the dates went,
Speaker 3: and the guys immediately lie, really good, great. Alex clears
Speaker 3: his throat, a little suspicious. I was just wondering how
Speaker 3: did work go? She tells him it went great. She
Speaker 3: accomplished everything he asked, and she defragged his heart drive.
Speaker 3: Wiseman creepily asks her, can you defrag my hard drive?
Speaker 3: All right? She sarcastically responds, Wow, that's hot. She does
Speaker 3: not think it's hot. She gets ready to leave, but
Speaker 3: Alex stops her. Actually, I was thinking about hiring somebody
Speaker 3: to help me run the website. Any interest, she smiles,
Speaker 3: maybe call me. As she walks away, Todd shouts, hey,
Speaker 3: don't forget your shirt and throws her the sweater. She
Speaker 3: nervously laughs and stutters. While walking towards the door, She
Speaker 3: lets herself out.
Speaker 1: Audience loves that too, with the shirt thing. That gotta
Speaker 1: beat this whole dynamic of like her entry, this trio friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want a little more specificity on like how you
Speaker 1: feel about her, Like obviously you're impressed with her work, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like I want I don't know, and like Wiseman
Speaker 1: is into her, but yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3: You didn't objectify her too. Yeah right, yeah, yeah. We
Speaker 3: go to our final commercial break, which hasn't add for
Speaker 3: a Sprint flip phone. Yeah as well as Yes, I
Speaker 3: miss my flip phone too. They're coming back, I hear,
Speaker 3: are they?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I mean, Sabrina Carpenter has had one for a long
Speaker 3: time with her deal with some phone company, so I've
Speaker 3: seen that, but it seems like people like the retro
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with her.
Speaker 3: Okay, hot pockets and then also a podmet World sponsor Huggies. Yes,
Speaker 3: all right, so we're in the tag. Every sitcom has
Speaker 3: one of those. We're back in the apartment, big shock.
Speaker 3: Alex tells Todd, Hey, how'd you get her shirt? Todd
Speaker 3: nonchalantly reveals we were playing Strip Antiques road Show. Wiseman
Speaker 3: is impressed, just out of curiosity. How do you get
Speaker 3: that kind of thing off the ground? Alex is also interested.
Speaker 3: Wiseman and I put in all our effort to get
Speaker 3: real dates. We get dressed up, we spend money, you
Speaker 3: stay here, and you still do better than we did.
Speaker 3: Todd shrugs, I didn't even take a shower today. Alex
Speaker 3: shakes his head in disappointment as the three roommates drink
Speaker 3: beer in each Chinese takeout again better button.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but as a scene, that's a great describes all
Speaker 1: three characters where they're always going to go, We're back
Speaker 1: to normal next week, try and get dates again, I.
Speaker 3: Might argue again, too close to each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is.
Speaker 2: I think they started to get different, starting to.
Speaker 3: Go and got them all back together. A'se. Guys who
Speaker 3: just want love? Yeah, yeah, well that's random, you will writer.
Speaker 1: Should have been a show, should have been a show,
Speaker 1: I think so. It should have been rewritten. This pilot
Speaker 1: could have been punched up really quickly, kept all the
Speaker 1: same scenes, uh, same actors, because this cast is phenomenal.
Speaker 1: You guys are so good and like this should have
Speaker 1: been you know, this should have been the Air to Friends.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I know every network at this time
Speaker 1: was trying to find that right they were trying to
Speaker 1: find and none of them lasted, None of them worked.
Speaker 1: Big Bang Theory is the only show that you know,
Speaker 1: and then How I Met Your Mother? But those were
Speaker 1: they had different angles, they had different things going for
Speaker 1: just the like group of friends in New York or
Speaker 1: in a city hanging out together is a great format
Speaker 1: and this was this could have been great. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it had a lot of potential and I
Speaker 2: loved the cast. We got it so well right off
Speaker 2: the bat, and I think we could have done something
Speaker 2: pretty special.
Speaker 3: Well, the first two episodes are on YouTube. We will
Speaker 3: put the link in our description. We ask you guys
Speaker 3: go watch it. It's really fun. This is the last
Speaker 3: episode Danielle will be back luckily, so I beenough. Well,
Speaker 3: not familiar with her either.
Speaker 2: Okay, you've been great, Jensen, thank you, you've been great
Speaker 2: sitting in for Danielle. It's not not the same visual, I'll.
Speaker 3: Be honest, No, I'm not the same. She's so talented
Speaker 3: at this, she's so difficult. She poses so much show
Speaker 3: that both you guys were like, don't make us do
Speaker 3: it both, Yah, don't do it.
Speaker 2: Because we're lazy, not because she's better than us, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest, what do we really think
Speaker 2: of Danielle?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, this is where I'll say. You could follow
Speaker 3: us on Instagram at podmeets Worldshow dot com or send
Speaker 3: us an email Podmeets World Show at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3: And we have Merch.
Speaker 1: We miss you, Danielle.
Speaker 3: Merch it's at Podmetsworldshow dot com.
Speaker 1: Writer send us home, We love you all, pod dismissed.
Speaker 1: Podmeets World is an iHeart podcast producer hosted by Danielle Fischel,
Speaker 1: Wilfredell and Ryder Strong executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman.
Speaker 1: Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor,
Speaker 1: Tarasubasch producer, Maddie Moore, engineer and boy Meets World Superman
Speaker 1: Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon.
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