WEBVTT - The Random Years Meets World 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.800 So since Danielle is is out this episode, thought you 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.160 and I should will we should we should talk about 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:28.640 trips that we took just the two of us. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:30.080 Oh, I thought you were gonna say what we really 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:35.280 thought about Danielle. Oh no, I will report back. Uh. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:39.360 Do you remember our first, our only autograph signing trip 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:39.720 that we did. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:41.159 Oh geez. 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.720 We went up to like San Francisco. We've stayed in 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:46.680 San Francisco, but then it wasn't in It was like 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.760 somewhere in the East Bay or South Bay and it 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.440 was a mall and a mall. Why were we doing that? 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:53.199 I don't know. 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.120 And why did the East Coast swing too? Because it 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:57.160 on the East coast as well. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:59.680 The only time I ever got invited to any and 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.520 it was actually a Disney thing. They brought us up there. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.200 We we got paid some sort of flat rate for 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.200 you and me to go up north and do a 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.319 signing at them all and it was a big deal, 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.560 like there was tons of people. Yeah. And then do 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:14.480 you remember what we did? 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.360 No? Did we did we go to an amusement park? 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.720 Yes, we did. We went to Great America, which is 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.280 the Six Flags up in northern California. But I just 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.920 remember we like we had we finished our signing for 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:28.720 the day and it was like two in the afternoon 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.679 and you were like we were I said, oh, you know, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.039 we're somewhere near Great America and You're like, why don't 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:38.880 we go? And we convinced the handler from Disney to 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.759 call Great America and see if they could just give 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.240 us like VIP backstage, and they did. They did, really 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.520 they did, so we didn't have to wait in any lines. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.360 We went and did like a whirlwind like day at 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.720 Great America, going with all the roller coasters, and I 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.560 did they have like that extra you know how they 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.880 have some amusement parks like the bungee jumping like Superman 0:01:58.920 --> 0:01:59.559 thing where there's. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.360 The Superman you did with the with the handler, did 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:03.960 exactly you remember this? 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:04.800 I do? 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.080 Oh my god, I can't believe that's. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.320 Did you say how old you were here? 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.280 I would have been seventeen. Yeah, it was much been 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.600 just fifth season, fourth, fifth season something. But isn't it weird? 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.440 So you did an East Coast swing too? 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.360 Then I did an East Coast swing because I remember 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.000 the funny The funniest thing was so was that a 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.880 mall in New York and my family came because they 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.079 were all in New York at the time, Gary and 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.800 Greg and everybody, and they were all there and jokingly 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.160 waiting in line. And one of the first people I 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.600 saw was a girl who was probably twelve thirteen, and 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.320 she came up and she asked for an autograph, and 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:39.880 I said, of course, and I gave her an autograph. 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:45.079 She turned around and not even trying to lower her voice, went, 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.720 he looked so much better on TV. 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:48.680 Oh. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.080 I remember like turning it essentially saying it right to 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.080 my family, who were the next ones in line, and 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.280 I was like, oh wow, what a way to spend 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:57.639 a day. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.839 You see. I can't remember if I did get off, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:01.920 like if I got asked to do these kinds of things, 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.040 because I would have said no, especially after the cruise. 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:05.960 I would have just said like, no, I'm not, like 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.480 I was so scared of the idea of meeting fans 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.320 and like do we need anything? But I must have 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.120 agreed to this one because you were going. It was like, oh, 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:15.839 you and Will get to go and I was like, yes, 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.240 Will and I get to go off, and we did. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.880 We had so much fun. But that's the only time 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.960 I ever did anything like that until you know you wrote, yeah, 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.160 you asked me that I do conventions coming in two 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.760 thousand and you know, eighteen or whatever. It's like, yeah, 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.000 there's there's something out there. And then I loved it. 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:31.040 There's so much fun. 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:32.840 But I was surprised Danielle didn't do a lot of 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:34.280 them either. I think she only did that Mall of 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.040 America one and maybe one other one. But you guys 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:42.000 weren't like on the Tiffany Debbie Gibson tourists, right, no malls. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.520 That would be great now. And then Danielle did one 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.000 for her book signing too, right. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.400 Yeah, like those are but those are like Barnes and 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:52.400 Nobles and right, that's funny. Well that's really funny. I mean, 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.240 do you guys still I mean, I know, Disney every 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.000 once in a while when you can, but like, does 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.720 does roller coasters mean anything to you now? Because they 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.680 make me dizzy at forty five? Oh me too? 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.920 They're so fun, No, make that. I definitely get a 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.560 little like a different feeling than I used to as 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.480 a kid. I'm like, oh god, I am so old 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:10.760 for this by a lot. I love it. 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:12.840 You know why though, It's because of the crystals. In 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.320 your ears. Yeah, so this crystals in your ear drums 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.520 that at the older you get, they more they solidify 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.120 so they're less liquid. So then that kind of movement 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.599 makes you feel more sick. I remember because Sue and 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.200 I hadn't been on a roller coaster in forever, and 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.320 we all went to disney Land and they had the 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.479 loop coaster there and we hadn't done, ever done a 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.400 loop coaster at Disneyland was the first one they had there. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.279 We're like, okay, great, let's do this. It was the 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.760 first thing we did. Ruined our whole day. The rest 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:41.120 of the day we were like, can't, can't do this anymore? Like, yeah, horrible, okay, 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.440 best ride you've ever been on? 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:48.560 Good question. I mean it seems like that Star Wars 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.240 thing might be the best one ever made. 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.400 Where you go in the you actually go in and 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.359 you see the walker, like the Imperial Walker. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.520 It's insane. Yeah, it would be difficult to beat that. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:03.039 I having been on stuff recently. Ghost Rider, the roller 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.239 coaster at Knotsberry Farm, is the most perfect roller coaster. 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:08.159 I ever been on it. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.359 No, it's an old school wooden one, but a fast 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:16.240 and it is really well made. I I've just I've 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.240 been on it maybe six times, and I've enjoyed it. 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.440 Every time you do it at night and they light 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.240 it up. It is so much fun. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:24.800 Better than Goofy Sky School. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.520 Oh god, anything called Goofy Sky School, Jesus not very 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.279 farm is the underrated theme, it is. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.480 It is the part I have to admit though. The 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.080 first time that I ever went on what is now 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.760 Guardians of the Galaxy, but was then Tower Terror. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:43.160 That's a great ride. That was a great Guardian really fun. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.120 we're going if we're going on the kid Angle. Also, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:47.960 I think Mister Toad's Wild Ride is hard to beat 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:48.320 as well. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.280 That's a great ride the Caribbean. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.240 Pirates of the Caribbean when the sense of atmosphere like though, 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:56.599 and I like it when it's physical. That's my problem 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.160 with the the Star Wars ride. I mean, it's just 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.760 still a lot of screen stuff, you know, Like anytime 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.400 I'm looking at screens or actors on screens, I'm like, okay, 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:05.240 I'm not in Wait. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:06.720 Which Star Wars right are you talking about? You're talking 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:07.880 about flying the Millennium Falcon. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.400 But have you ever done that one where you see 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.440 the Stormtroopers where you walk through and you're like, yeah, 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.040 that's incredible. Where you get to. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:16.520 I think I told you if I really got to 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.640 the the girl who obviously had been there all day 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.960 and was just like, Hi, I'm Kelly, I'm here from 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:22.599 the Resistance. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:26.920 Follow me please. Everyone else is doing an accent. They 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:27.599 all were like, you. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.560 Worthless dogs, Let's take down the Empire. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.039 Let's go. Yeah, we did it. It was so funny. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:38.679 Fifty four Megasex doesn't know any of the words, just 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.839 walking through it. Well, welcome to pop Mey's world. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.720 I'm Jensen Cart, I'm rather strong, and I'm Wilfordell. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.719 Listen. It's the last Monday where you're gonna have to 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.479 hear me or look at me, So don't worry. It 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.000 all goes away. Danielle will be back very soon. And 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.880 normally I come on the show to play you a 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.760 clip of something that I found in my extensive research 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.280 for Pod Meets World, and this actually kind of fits 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.760 in that genre, which is I love looking at things 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.960 that Will and Ryder have done outside of the show. 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.000 It's one of my favorite hobbies. I don't do it 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:28.240 for Danielle because she will kill me, but in this case, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.800 I found a longer piece of media that had to 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.680 be dug into a little deeper. And this is a 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:41.600 show that Will did after Boy Meets World. This was, 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.680 in my opinion, the next step for Will in a 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.600 sense that he could run his own sitcom. It seems 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.920 like that was what was going to happen after Boy 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.440 Meets World correctly, and this was a show called The 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.240 Random Years. So before we dive into this, we'll be 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.160 recapping the pilot of The Random Years. It is currently 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.680 available to watch on YouTube. All you have to type 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:03.880 in is the Random Years. We will put the link 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.240 to the show that we used for our recapping. It's 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.520 the best quality online in our description, you could check 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.240 it out. It actually has the first and second episode 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.600 on that YouTube video, but we only I mean I 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.880 watched both because I'm just obsessed with life, but the 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.240 first one is the one we recap. Will tell us 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.480 a little bit about your journey to The Random Years, 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.360 and then I'll talk maybe a little bit more details 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:28.559 about the show. Yeah. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.000 What I remember most about my journey to The Random 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:35.720 Years was the kind of controversy that surrounded it. Yeah, 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.959 so I had, you know, I finished Boy Metswirld, and 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.040 I was on a what's called the Whole Deal with Disney, 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.200 and the first thing they did was they put me 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.160 on a show that I did six episodes of called 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:51.400 GoFish with Kieran Culkin and Andy Dick. 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:52.760 Oh wow, it. 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:56.720 Was the several of the cast members were very nice. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.640 I got along with It is by far the worst 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.240 experience I've ever had on on a television show. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.640 I like a guess between Curing Cocan or Andy Dick 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:05.200 where you had. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.080 The problem, To be honest with you, it wasn't either 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:08.400 of them. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.080 Okay, yeah, right, it. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:14.000 Wasn't either of them were playing the older brother on it, 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.320 so it's sort of like they just like sampled you from. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.520 Boy me and I went from playing the older brother 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.520 of a savage to the older brother of a Coulkin. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.439 And was it a single camera a multi camp? 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.480 It was single camera, single camera, And so we we 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.960 did that, we finished that, obviously didn't get picked up. 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.120 We got we wrapped that up, and then you know, 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.120 you're back kind of on the audition circuit. But I 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:34.840 was still in the place where I didn't have to audition. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.600 So UPN called and said, we have a show that 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.560 we'd like you to read for called or come in 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.960 and meet on called the Random yres great. I read 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:42.280 the script. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:43.080 I really liked it. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.520 I went in and met with them. They said, look, 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.080 we'd really love you to do this show. I said, fine, 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.400 I signed on to do the show. We shot the 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.640 Memory Serves, we shot the pilot. Had a great time. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:55.360 The cast is. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:10:00.840 Awesome, awesome, Eather there, Sean Murray and I became very 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.040 very close friends, Natalia, Josh, everybody. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.360 We were We got along right off the bat. Uh. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.480 And then they said we're not we're not picking it up. 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:09.080 We're not. 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.080 You did the pilot, thank you very much, We're not. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.040 We're not doing it anymore. I said, okay, that's fine. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:14.679 And then I got a call from the w B 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:16.200 saying we're doing a show. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:17.480 Was it the www B? 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:22.200 It was the w W this is w B and 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:27.120 they were Sean, oh god, now I'm gonna British actor 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.720 Sean Connery. Sean, Yes, it was Sean Connery is finally 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:32.880 doing a sitcoms w B. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:33.560 Yeah. 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:38.640 It was called you Bastards and so welcome to you 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:42.719 Bastards on the Doctor here w B. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:43.720 Why is that frog? 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.440 No? So I went in and met on that I 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.600 met with Sean King I think is his name, and uh, 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.280 they said, yeah, this has already been picked up for 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.079 twenty six episodes. We'd love for you to do this 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.800 with us. I said, I'd love to do this show. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.839 I then got a letter like two days later from WB, 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.480 I still have it. Welcome to the cast of Off Center. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:09.080 We're so excited to start blah blah blah. UPN then 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.240 heard that I had was now going to do a 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:17.360 WB show, so they decided to exercise my option and 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.040 pick us up for the six episodes that were guaranteed 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.920 to burn us off so that I couldn't go to 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.520 the WB. And it made the trades. So it was 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.480 all over the trades that w that. You know, WB 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.960 was really upset because they were yeah, and. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.079 This was their main competition, right, I mean, that was 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.320 who they were going up against. Yeah, so they were. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.280 It was at the time they were UPN was going 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.880 through a changeover, which every network does all the time, 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.520 and and less Moonvest had come in and picked up 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.880 four or five shows, random Yres being one of them, 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:50.720 and the second then less Moonvest left. 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:52.520 They knew anything he brought to. 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.480 The network was what was going to be gone and 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.120 we were one of those, so they knew they were 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.080 going to cancel us before they picked us up, just 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.440 so I couldn't go to the WB Wow after assuring 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:01.480 me that that wouldn't happen. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:02.920 And what happened to the w B show? 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.240 Did it go on? It went two seasons, two seasons. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.000 Eddie K Thomas, Yeah, Eddie K took over. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:10.520 I was supposed to frustrating man. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:14.120 No, yes, it would be an actor so rough, Yeah, 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.280 it was. I mean it was would have been two 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.240 seasons on a sick and who knows, maybe if it 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.160 was Shahn and I it would have gone longer. You never, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:24.520 you never, well, but he was fun doing well. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.720 It is fun. The Random Years aired on the UPN 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.880 Network in two thousand and two. Debuted in March. It's 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.520 created by Michael Lisbie and Nate Regor. 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:36.640 A rider you also met they were. They marched with 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.959 us randomly. I think it was Nate. It was either 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.280 Nate or Mike were one of the people that marched 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.120 with us during the strike on that World Day. 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.400 Yeah. Yeah. Their their first big gig, and really almost 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.199 their first gig, was on Spin City. They pretty much 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.960 struck gold. They were given their own kind of development deals. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.000 This was the result of it. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.240 That's funny because when I was watching this, I was 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.640 like there. I was like, oh, Will's doing like an 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.760 Alex speaking Yeah, so that makes sense. The spin City, 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.440 There's a There's a. 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.600 The show is loosely inspired by the Friends Boom of 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.839 those years. It was based on the writers experience living 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.200 in New York City after graduating from college and what 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.679 they call a mid season replacement. So this is a 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.000 show that doesn't debut at the beginning of the season. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.720 It comes in for someone that is ailing. That show 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.480 that was ailing. Do you know what it was? No, 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.800 Roswell really. 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.880 Five seasons seasons? 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.199 Yeah, I know for as bad as your industry story 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.320 was the Roswell Roswell has a great industry story. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.280 But yes, no, we were. We were very much the 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:43.760 sacrificial lamb. As we were shooting, we knew we weren't 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:44.040 doing it. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:49.480 Really, they just did this attack my other deal. Everybody 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:50.800 else know that too, the other actors. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.199 I don't know. Well, I mean it was in the trades, 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:53.920 it was everywhere, and that it was the and then 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.000 we actually went to upfronts and you know, because it's 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:57.720 u PN there were nine people in the in the 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.800 audience at upfronts, and every question was what do you 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:03.679 think about the WB doing this, what do you think 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.400 about UPM doing this? Do you really want to be 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:06.840 doing the show or did you rather be doing Off Center? 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.640 And it was like, boy, no, I'm excited to be 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:09.360 here kind of thing. 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.640 Yeah, yeah, I did read it. I did read a 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.480 couple of interviews with you from the time, and it 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.280 is focused on you saying this is the show I 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.440 want to be on. Just yeah, I know that happened, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:20.920 and this is the show I ended up on the 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.560 show I really wanted to be on. That's kind of 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.640 just the talking point you had. I'm so glad I 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.000 got to meet all those guys, but I would rather 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.320 have been on the other show because Roswell was an hour, 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.960 so you went first. And then another show called as 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.240 If as If. I remember that because I remember meeting 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.720 the as If. It was a show that was really 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.640 big in England and they brought over an American version, 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.720 but they brought over some of the cast as well, and. 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.400 I remember them at the UPM party. Were all very 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:44.960 very nice. So but that show didn't go either. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.840 Well, you guys, Film seven episodes, only four aired. Fun 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.160 trivia question. Do you know the name of the final 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.320 episode that aired? 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.080 I think, if memory serves it was called Boy Meets World. 0:14:56.160 --> 0:15:02.160 It was called Wow. I was so excited when I 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:02.720 found that out. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.560 We did seven. We did seven? 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.320 Film seven? You film seven? You aired for? Yeah, you 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.200 aired for. I'm not doing this for anything other than 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.000 a fact I'm not kicking you while you're down. You 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.160 know that the network was pushing to get the show 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.880 off the air. The Random Years received the lowest ratings 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:21.720 of any original programming of that network TV season. Really 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:23.920 it did which which shows? They just didn't show any 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.560 commercials because even just by showing a commercial you get 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:28.240 better ratings. 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.200 They wanted us. They wanted us to die. That was 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:36.000 they were ironically. Critics kind of liked it. Yeah, they 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:37.600 kind of liked it. I found a bunch of reviews 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.920 that liked the cast. A bunch of people liked you, obviously, 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.440 and the cast is a bunch of I would call 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:48.000 them workers, Yeah, a bunch of like hardcore just TV workers, 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.200 which we'll get into in a minute. Uh. 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.640 Lisbie and Regor would go on to have a fruitful 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.520 career in Hollywood, writing and producing on just shoot me. Cougartown, 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.200 two broke Girls, the cool kids. They've created shows, They've 0:15:58.200 --> 0:15:59.640 went on to do a lot of stuff, and they 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.120 most rely worked on a show called Alca Poco, which 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:03.480 people really like on Apple TV. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.800 Okay too, and they're also they were really great to 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.720 work with, very collaborative, really cool guys. 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:11.640 Yeah, well, we will get into the recap and you 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.640 can give us some inside stories about things you remember 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.760 from watching it. Then timeline from Boy Meets World? How 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.400 long after Boy Meets World raps? Does this start? 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.320 Two years? Because we finished in two thousand and I 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.800 think that, so yeah, end of because we finished Go 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.280 Fish in two thousand and one, so yeah, this is 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:27.640 two thousand and two, two years later. 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.240 And were the Fridels were Were they watching it as 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.160 excitedly as they were Boy Meets World? 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.440 Any any time? My mom My mom loves me to death, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.600 and of course she's very supportive anything I do. My 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.760 dad is like, this is the best thing that has 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.720 ever happened. It is the greatest show on TV. My god, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:46.720 my son is a genius. 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.080 That's my thing. Yeah right, I'm not doing this so 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:50.520 that I could find it, because I could find it 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.480 on my own, But I am asking what was your 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.240 next step? What was the show right after Boy Meets 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:56.800 World for me? Yeah? 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.760 Uh nothing. I went to college. I went to New 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.280 York and yeah, there was a I had a whole 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.439 deal too, And there was a show that Will and 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.520 I both went to Network for different parts. Do you 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:10.280 remember this show? Will? 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:10.840 It was? It was? 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.600 It was by the guys who are now huge. They 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.600 did Deep and oh Wow. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:17.879 There was a Mandel. 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:23.400 Yeah, yeah, Mandel and then his writing partner God who 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:24.879 ran Silicon Valley. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:29.560 And it wasn't like The Loft or the Apartment. 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.960 It was a college show. It was about It was 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:33.280 about like guys in college. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:33.720 I don't know. 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:34.760 Years was that? 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:35.920 What was just called the college? 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:36.760 It was called the College. 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.480 Dave Mandel and the other guy they were amazing and 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.800 they're great writers. They've obviously gone onto huge careers separately, 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:44.960 but at the time they were writing partners and they 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.280 created the show called The College Years, and they brought 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.560 us both in and I remember being like, they're going 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.800 to have to pick one of us, and neither of 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:53.960 us got it. And then I went off to college 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:55.200 and I was like, yeah, I'm not going to keep 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.440 auditioning for TV shows. Oh no, wait, I did do 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.200 a show. I did a pilot in two thousand and one. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.919 I did a upn show. I don't know what it 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.800 ended up being called. When I did it, it was 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.680 called something like uh whatever, or you know, like some 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:12.040 generic sort of catchphrase. But yeah, it was just a 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.680 high school show, like it was a senior in high 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:18.800 school and it was a pretty funny single camera pilot, 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:19.879 but never got picked up. 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:25.520 Alec Berg you Sefeld too. Yes, he's a great great writer, 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.119 as Mandel as well, who created their you. 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.800 Know, and their stuff is like they brought me in 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.760 also they they wrote and directed with another guy, They 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.160 wrote and directed a movie called Fistful of Euros in 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:39.639 like two thousand and two, So they brought me in 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.040 and screen tested me for that. I just I loved 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.920 the writing and they liked me. We always look out a. 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.439 I don't think they liked me, if memory serves, if 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:49.760 they're the two guys I think they are. I don't 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:50.600 think they were huge. 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.120 Fans of really great great writers. 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:56.800 Well. I also I also hope that this gives our 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.760 listeners a bit of a viewing into a different aspect 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:04.160 of acting, which is that we focus the show on 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.160 the biggest success of your careers. You know, this is 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:08.960 a show that went on forever and is being talked 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.560 about thirty years later, But yet even your most successful 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.400 actors have these stories, which is, you know, something else 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.240 that went on that could have went that way but didn't. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.440 And maybe there's there's some insight you can give while 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.080 we go through the recap as to why or what 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:25.600 you liked about it or whatever it was. But I 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.280 actually had a fun time watching it. I guess we 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.359 usually asked what everyone thought about it. I guess we'll 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:32.240 start with Will, what did you think about watching this complete? 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.639 I'm sure everything was forgotten from your brain watching it. 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:35.159 What was you? 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.080 You know what? To be totally honestly, I was pleasantly surprised. 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.199 I remember my performance being a lot worse than it was. 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.639 I knew the rest of the cast, including the guest stars, 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:50.800 were solid, because I remember how funny they were. I 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.480 always thought that especially I was pushing a little like 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.080 in my head, I was pushing too hard to try 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.359 to be the leading man. I was mugging for the 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.600 camera more than I needed to. And then when I 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:02.600 watched it back, I was like, Okay, it's not bad. 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.439 I actually watched the second episode as well, and frankly, 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:06.880 I thought the second episode was better than. 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.400 The first one. Yeah, so pilots are always hard. 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.600 Yeah, but overall I was I was actually pleasantly surprised 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.359 with the chemistry we all had on camera and the 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.760 writing and the sets and everything. I mean, I was. 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:18.639 I liked it. 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.640 I actually I actually enjoyed it. 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.320 It's a fun show. Rter, Wait, what did you think? 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:24.960 Yeah, I mean I think that this is an example 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.040 of just a pretty amazing cast, Like these are all 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:33.439 just great sitcom actors. I just didn't feel like this 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.399 was a pilot. I wanted this to be the second 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:39.600 or third episode, and I think I feel like this 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:45.760 was there was I like pilots that that initiate the 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.480 situation or explain the situation, and I was lost. 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.040 I was like, wait, you were thrown in. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.280 We were thrown in, and we were just supposed to 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:54.399 know these characters, and I want and by the end 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:56.160 of the episode, I was like, Okay, now I get 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.000 where we're going. But I wanted a little bit more telegraphing, 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.920 to be like, this is this guy whose apartment is here, 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:03.679 and he has this kind of job. This is his 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:05.560 loser friend who does this, and this is his friend, 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.760 you know, like just a little bit more like locating 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.520 of where it felt a little too generic. I feel 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:12.919 like they just they they didn't go hard enough. It 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.359 was like, and it's not the actor's fault. I feel 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.240 like it was probably and probably not the writer's fault. 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:18.960 I feel like it was probably a network note like 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.080 just make it friends. Just put these guys in funny situations. 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.280 And it's like, yeah, okay, you can do that. But 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.639 even Friends starts with like Rachel being introduced to everybody, 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.920 so she's like a fish out of water being like yes, 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:34.159 and this didn't have like a way in. So I 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.240 just felt a little like I'm throwing the deep end 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:38.800 with funny actors, but I don't know why I'm here, 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:40.320 and I don't know what I'm looking for. 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:41.879 I know what it is because Danielle and I have 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.960 sold enough script deals to figure out you know that, 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:46.800 you know we don't get it. I've gotten one thing 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.400 on TV, but but basically everything else gets canned before 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.800 it gets to even this point. But the idea is 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.240 is they the note is always let's just get into 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.000 it exactly right, isn't that the note? The note is like, 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.800 you only have two minutes to get the viewer to 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.400 not change a channel. Let's just do it into it. Yeah, 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.240 And they don't want to do any setup. Instead, it's 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.760 you walking around with a concern and now we're in 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:08.120 the show, right like and. 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.760 Yeah, it seems like the conceit of the show, which 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.239 I did watch the beginning of the second episode, and 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:15.000 that was much better at setting up the conceit of 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.240 the show, which is three guys who all want love, 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.280 They all want a woman in their life, and they 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.320 all have different strategies and completely different lifestyles, but they're 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:26.159 best friends. And so that's the next episode begins with 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:28.199 them all hitting on a waitress with their own style, 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:31.200 and I thought that was a better intro because it's 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:33.920 like that sets up the thematics of the show right now, 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:35.560 you walking in and being like, why are you on 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:37.679 my couch again? I was like, oh wait, wait, is 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:38.440 who's what? 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:38.960 What you know? 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:40.840 I just wanted a little bit more of like, what 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:42.480 is the point of this show? And if the point 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:44.400 of the show is three guys are desperate to find 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:47.000 love in New York City in the Random Mirrors that 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:47.400 would have. 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:49.440 Been just just sit tell me that it is funny 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:51.680 to mention the second episodes opening, because I do think 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.720 it gets across each character better than we do. 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.000 Yeh pilot yet disagree. 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:57.800 Just by telling us how they deal with women. 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.399 Exactly one short scene. It was like a little well like, 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:02.800 here's each guy's take, and you know who's going to 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:03.920 be successful and who's now. 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:05.400 The jokes And by the way, the jokes are harder 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.240 to find in the pilot than they are in the second. 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:09.920 By the way I've said this, I've said this from 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.240 for for since I saw it. If you want to 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:16.800 see pretty close to a perfect sitcompilot, go watch the 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:21.200 pilot for news Radio. It is just it gets everybody 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:23.840 in from the second year they're on camera, you know 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.600 what's happening. They give you there's a there's a mission 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.399 for our lead character. You were he's introduced to everybody else. 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:33.639 It is a pretty perfect sitcompilot. 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.320 Another thing for listeners who aren't in the business. I 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.960 actually would argue if networks were able to throw away money, 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.399 which twenty twenty four that is no longer happening. No, 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.080 I wouldn't even air pilots. I know that we just 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:46.720 keep them because oh they have them in the can 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:48.119 and they just put it on. But the truth is 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.880 shows get better. Yeah, after you get months off basically 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:53.920 between the pilot and the pickup, and then you're back 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:56.920 and people just you've you've worked on the characters more. 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.760 The whole thing is just better by that. And honestly, 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:01.960 and for podcast too, if you listen to our podcast 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:04.080 up top and you learn and you change and all 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.359 those things happen, it just shows get better. 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.439 If you want to see a perfect example of that, 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:09.960 I always bring it back to Mash, which I'm going 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.080 to do. So when they did the pilot of Mash, 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.960 then they ran the entire first season of Mash. People 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:17.719 weren't watching it at all. It was almost canceled several times. 0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:22.520 So to relaunch it, they essentially did a second pilot to. 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:23.600 Start season two. 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.840 So if you watch the very first episode then the 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.679 very first episode of season two, you're essentially watching two pilots. 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.280 It's really interesting to see how they change it over 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.000 the season. But they reintroduce all the characters again, they 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:37.480 reshow the camp again. It's like they start all over 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:38.800 after an entire season of the show. 0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:40.800 It's cool well. Also, for the record, that is why 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.199 you hear so many people say, oh, it takes a 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.480 couple to get going, but once you're in episode four, 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.520 it's it's not. They didn't try to do that. Yeah, no, exactly. 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.919 I mean break You know how many people said to 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:52.639 me with Breaking bad with like just keep with it, 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:53.440 just stick with it. 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:56.600 Ben, you're gonna get hooked, and the Wired people same thing. 0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:57.800 Stick with it, stick with it. 0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:11.600 It's like, okay, all right, all right, Well, let's get 0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.080 into the recap here. This is season one, episode one 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:17.240 of the random years. Pilots are always named basically the 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.240 random year of course. Yeah, yeah, it's always the name. 0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.440 First air date was March fifth, two thousand and two. 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.280 Certain time in Everyone's life. There the synopsis four Friends 0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.280 Experience Life, Love and Laughs in New York City. Keep 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:33.639 it as generic as humanly possible for your violot exactly, 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:37.399 they tell me anything. And it's directed by Lee Shallat Chemmel, 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.000 a TV legend in the field. She has over one 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.520 hundred credits for Murphy Brown, to George Lopez, to The 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.160 Bernie Mac Show to Raising Hope. You name a show 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.960 she has probably worked on it. Script is obviously always 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.480 by the creators of the show. They're the showrunners. That's 0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:53.639 for many reasons. One, if you're not in the business, 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.119 I could tell you they get paid on every episode 0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.120 something to know. Basically, they created the characters. They get 0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.320 to Also, by the way, Lee also gets paid on 0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.280 every director. Yeah, director, director, pilot. You get money for 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.480 the rest of that shows, rest of that show. So characters, 0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.879 buy all those things come up through the creators. So 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.000 they write the first screenplay. It's starring our own wilfredell 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.840 Is Alex Barnes. All Right, what do you remember about 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:16.840 getting this cat? Like, what was the character? What did 0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:18.719 you know? Nothing? 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.439 He's really he's at the beginning, you know, you're just 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.600 a guy. It's more like how I can insert myself 0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:26.199 into the character. I knew he was supposed to be 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.960 a website at the time. He runs a music website site. Yeah, 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:34.480 he is obviously trying to find love. He's out of 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.640 college for a year or two by this point, we're 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.160 just starting to and like most kids just starting out, 0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.240 he's got a seventeen thousand square foot apartment in New 0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.359 York City, so obvious. 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.200 See that's what I was sort of thinking. I was like, oh, 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.639 well he's the guy like I realized. I was like, Oh, 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.600 the point or one of the is the differences between 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.080 the guys. You're the one who did all the right things, 0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.600 you like made money right, right, and then you have 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.760 your friend who has no ambition and who just sits 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.200 on the couch but has an easy time with girls, 0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.879 and you're you're struggling. And then you have your weirdo 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:10.080 friend who's like maybe a genius, but he's like really 0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:13.160 awkward with women, right, yeah, and he's a dental assistant. Right, 0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.800 but you like do everything right, but you can't find love. 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:21.120 Cor okay, Like, but it took a while to their distinctions. Yeah, 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.160 but I know you were Alex P. Keaton, you were 0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.879 like the more conservative like you. You know, you dress well, 0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.680 you do your job, everybody likes you, but you're still 0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.960 unhappy because you want love. I don't know that's the vibent. 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.359 Yeah, I think that's everybody's that We were all looking 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:36.640 for that person. 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:36.960 In our lives. 0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.920 Right question, are you are you Napster? Are or are 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:40.720 you Pitchfork? 0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:41.720 Hmmm? 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.760 Like you have a website, well, Napster like was a 0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.120 peer to peer in two thousands, like Pitchfork. I think 0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.760 it's like Pitchfork is like a it's like culturally cool, 0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:50.400 but not like. 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.720 Breaking the Internet cool, you know, like Napster was breaking 0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.199 the Internet. I feel like this character is much more like, Oh, 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.200 I'm just I've see a new business and I'm going 0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.440 into it and like we're making money and we're doing fine. 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:01.840 I think it is the one I've heard of that 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:03.920 didn't that guy like steal it or something like that. 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:05.760 Well, I mean, yeah, all these guys in two thousand 0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:07.320 and two have some story that could be turned into 0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.840 a movie. But but what I'm sort of saying is like, 0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:13.239 were you illegally putting music online? Or were Oh? 0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.480 No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah, 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.120 all right, isn't the guy from Napster? Wasn't he in 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.240 the Facebook? Yeah? 0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:21.440 Yeah? Yeah? 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.560 So who who was the female regular? 0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.800 Okay, I'll get his only Well, let's let's tell you. Yeah, 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:31.119 let's get into Josh Suckerman is wise Man or Weissman Wiseman. 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.000 This was early in his acting career, after small parts 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.960 in Pearl Harbor and Evolution. Soon after the Random Years, 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.840 he would retire from acting really yeah, and he would 0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:43.719 begin producing unscripted television executive producing shows like Hustle and 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.600 tow Girl Meets Farm in Sidon City Toe. Isn't that 0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.640 like towing show subgenre? 0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:51.400 Yeah? I love that. 0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:55.320 Okay, okay, I'm super nice guy. I remember he was. 0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:57.840 You know, they were essentially like without telling him to 0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.360 be Kramer, they were telling him to be Cramer correct direct. 0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:06.440 Yeah, yea. Natalia is Casey. That's who you're asking about, 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.120 will Right Rider. 0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:09.480 You have also worked with Natalia? 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:10.640 I have yet. 0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:15.200 Natalia was on what was the show that Chila was 0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:16.959 on that we would then went over and did an 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:18.520 episode of. I did an episode of and you were 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:19.040 in the Party? 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:20.880 Odd Man Out? 0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.160 Yes, thank you. Natalia was on odd Man Out? 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:23.680 Gotcha? 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.080 She was one of the regulars on odd Man Out. 0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:26.760 Oh there she's yeah, I have that. I have that. 0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.080 She played Lindsay Wagner on Saved by the Bell The 0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.280 New Class. That was her biggest role. She would appear 0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.160 on Beverly Hills nine O two one, Oh was Chloe, 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.120 and shows like odd Man Out, as you said, Pacific 0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.040 Palisades and Unhappily. Ever After, she would go on to 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.400 be in stuff like Joe Dirt and Joe Dirt sequel, 0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.720 All My Children, Raising the Bar and something called Deputy, 0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.480 which is pretty new. 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:50.880 Okay, so she's she becomes a regular. There's only only four. 0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.040 There's four man, Okay, yeah, gotcha. 0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.200 In the second episode, she ends up moving in with 0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:56.720 or moving into the apartment. 0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:57.440 Across the way from us. 0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:00.000 Great, Okay, I wish that was the pilot then, yeah, 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.160 those who would have been the perfect audience surrogate, like 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.480 coming into this situation with these three. 0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.920 Yes, she's the paid star. Those are the paid stars, 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.480 by the way, So now we're into guest stars. David 0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.960 Gary as Waiter, another Joe Dirt guy who also appeared 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.760 on Just Shoot Me, so I assume that's how he 0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:21.760 got that job. Valerie Geffner as Joe Lene, Jennifer Morrison 0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.320 as Megan. Megan would go on to star on the 0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:28.040 TV show House, which which is very cool as doctor 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:29.960 Allison Cameron, and she would appear on How I Met 0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:31.040 Your Mother and This is. 0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.960 Us and she and my girlfriend really she was. We 0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:36.840 met on this set and then we dated after this. Yeah. 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.800 Very sweet girl, very sweet girl a couple of months. 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:42.480 She's very pretty, very pretty. 0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:46.720 She is also on the cover of our Approboard pants catalog. 0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:54.960 Oh, it's gonna sell us some pants. Yes, she's very cool. 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:58.000 And Sean Murray is Todd Mitchell. You'll most likely recognize 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.040 him from hocus Pocus, where he played Fatackery, and then 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.000 he'd go on to play Timothy McGee on almost five 0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.400 hundred episodes of ncis yet still on it. He's never 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:08.040 run into these people ever. 0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:08.960 I do well. 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:11.360 Sewn and I became good friends. I was at Sewan's wedding, 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.800 so yeah, no, we became very friendly and we were 0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.760 friends for years and then we've kind of lost touch, 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:19.680 but we'll always kind of come back into each other's lives. 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.760 So at one point he was a very good friend 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.520 of mine. I still consider him a friend of mine. 0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:33.240 He's a great guy all the way. 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.600 Before we get into the recap and get into the 0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.360 nitty gritty, people know all about successes. Like I said, 0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.480 what does it feel like to be on a show 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:46.600 at this point? You kind of know the network is 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.520 dooming it and then you get the call that there's 0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:50.760 you know, we're done after four I mean, what is 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:53.000 that feeling for people who don't act? 0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:53.920 It's tough. 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.360 I mean, well, I mean it's tough mostly because let's 0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.440 put it this way. Sometimes it's tough, sometimes it's not. 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.440 When I found out go Fish wasn't getting picked up, 0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:04.200 I was very happy. When I found out random here 0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:05.960 is what they were doing with it, I was upset 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.680 because I really liked everybody. We got along super well. 0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:12.560 The set was a fun place to be. We just 0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.480 enjoyed being with each other. We enjoyed the scripts. It 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.120 was also coming off A Boy Meets World and going 0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.680 to a show where we were talking about sex, where 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.960 we were drinking, where we were doing all stuff. It 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.240 was such a step up as an actor, and that's 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.320 that's wrong. That's step up is wrong. It's just a 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:31.680 different chapter in my life as an actor. We're now 0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.880 playing an adult and I'm aging up. So that was 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:36.960 That was a lot of fun. I remember the first time, 0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:39.480 you know, as we're on the set and Lee's like, 0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:40.800 all right, wanted you to go up to the to 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:42.600 the fridge and grab a beer and come back. I'm like, 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:47.080 I grab a beer. She's like, yeah, you're up a beer? 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:52.440 Is there a photo of a beef scrambled egg? 0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.800 You sure? We don't want red drink like that? 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:55.120 You know? 0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.720 So it was, Yeah, it was strange, like go grab 0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.840 a beer, come back down, all right, We'll get four more. 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:01.640 And it was just like, oh man, this is this 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:02.360 is great. 0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:03.400 So fun. 0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.360 The one thing I do remember that was bad about well, 0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:09.520 first of all, this was the show to where we 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.360 shot on the same set that they did Family Ties. 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:17.760 Oh so being again, well that's what I said. So 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.680 they brought me into I had Michael J. Fox's dressinger 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.440 come and the first night I was there, I cried 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:26.320 because I was like all I had ever wanted to 0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.320 be was Michael Fox and I'm sitting on the set 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.800 of Family Ties. I'm I'm like, I'm on the stage, 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.360 I'm the star of the show, I'm in his thing, 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.160 and I like, I was like, I never cried, what 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:35.920 the hell's appening? 0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:36.760 So it was. 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:38.680 It was one that was one of those moments in 0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:40.240 my career where I was like, oh my god, I'm 0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:41.720 actually here. I just come off seven. 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:42.680 Years of a show. 0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.440 But here it was like, I'm here, this is I had. 0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.520 I had the exact same experience of being on a 0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.200 show that you knew was doomed. When we did Pepper Dennis, 0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.840 which is where I met my wife. We were that 0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:57.520 was it was a very hot pilot. The pilot script 0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:01.080 was amazing, and networks were in. Rebecca Remain was the 0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.080 star and she was huge at the time. It was 0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:04.800 her big step into acting. She was coming off the 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.360 x Men films and it was like, Oh, we're gonna 0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:08.839 do it. And what happened is she had to go 0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:12.040 do x Men two. So they held us for six 0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:15.400 months and we just had to wait. No one could 0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.520 do take other jobs. And when we came back, we 0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.560 were shooting our second or third episode and they announced 0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.400 the merger between WB and UPN, and we knew we 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.520 were screwed because the president of UPN was taking over 0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.640 the new network, and so we were a WB show. 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.040 We're like, oh, well, then that's it, We're done, and 0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.520 yet we still had to shoot thirteen episodes, and so 0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.399 was this weird thing of like we loved each other, 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.200 we all got along, we all had it, and we 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.760 were like, maybe if we're good enough, it'll still matter. 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:45.319 So you still kind of give it your all, but 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.200 it's depressing and it's just hard to commit. All of 0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.480 our scripts had already been written because of the strike too, 0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:52.080 and then they had to let go of all of 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.080 the writing staff, so we only had our showrunners, and 0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.160 I don't even think they could rewrite the scripts, so 0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.319 we would just have table reads for no reason because 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:03.240 it couldn't rewri It was it was. It was so depressing, 0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.000 but you know, I got to work with great people, 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.960 like the one writer I became friends with, Jason Catom's 0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.719 was on our show, and he was like, he was like, 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.240 I'm bailing to go do this Friday Night Lights series 0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.640 and I was like, Oh, that movie's good, I bet 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.520 the series is gonna suck. Yeah, went on to you know, 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.920 create Parenthood and he's a legend. But you know, there 0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:22.799 was like great people involved, but we were all just 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.120 sort of like sad, and so it's just this bizarre. 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:29.560 Like from a job, this is eerily similar. Yeah, right, 0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:30.239 yeah it is. 0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.440 But it's also it's weird. It's it's getting on a 0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:36.920 boat with your friends knowing four days into the cruise 0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.360 it's going to sink exactly. So it's like, well, I 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.680 guess we can party for the four There's a great 0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:47.359 buffet until we actually hit the icebergs, so let's do that. Yeah, 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.719 it's it's very very it's a strange sensation. Yeah, it's 0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:51.360 a strange feeling. 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.439 Yeah, well, let's get into the recap. Will or writer 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.400 feel free to jump in at any point, let me 0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:58.719 know if you want to talk about something. But we 0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.240 start in the apartment, which obviously is the center stage 0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:06.080 for this entire show. Alex Barnes, played by our Palhill Wilferdell, 0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.560 walks in and greets his roommate Todd, who was supposed 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.000 to be doing temp work today. Todd says the gig 0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.719 didn't feel quite right because it was in an office. 0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.840 Alex tells him it's a concession. A concession will eventually 0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.040 have to make. Todd shakes his head. I live in 0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.720 New York. If I sit here, it will come. Alex 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.560 hands him a beer and Todd grins, see see game. 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.239 Alex looks at their answering machine, reminding us exactly what 0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.839 year this takes place in, and he says, why don't 0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.480 you ever play the messages? Todd shrugs, it's always like 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:34.719 Hi Todd, how are you? 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:35.200 Hi? 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:36.920 Todd, let's get together. I don't want to be a 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:40.840 part of that. So he is the Costanza, or he 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.360 is the Kramer, He's the Coristanza. 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:47.439 He's the Costanza. Yeah, yeah, yes, you're the Jerry, I'm 0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.319 the Jerry, He's this Yeah, and then Wiseman's the the 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:54.360 uh Kramer, and then Natalia's is Elaine. 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:58.120 Yeah essentially yeah. Alex presses play anyway. The first is 0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.319 from Todd's grandpa, who wants his copy of Lonesome Dove back. 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:05.160 Todd yells at the phone, I gave it back at Thanksgiving. Next, 0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:08.200 a message from Megan Murphy. Alex is thrilled. This is 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:09.759 a girl who's in New York and would like to 0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:13.759 see him. Alex lets out a scream. Yes. Todd warns him, 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.520 don't be too eager, but Eric says, it's fate. It's 0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.439 like the sun has broken through the clouds and made 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:19.480 everything beautiful. 0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:20.759 Did you call me Eric? 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:21.880 You did? Ax? 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:27.800 No, by the way, it actually says Alex, you still 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.440 said Eric. Oh my god. This shows how good Danielle 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:31.160 is at the job. 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.120 This is this is where you know. By this point, 0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.919 I'm like, I'm just enjoying Will being a leading man, 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.960 Like it's so you just you needed your own sitcom, 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.439 like and you know, I'm so used to you being Eric, 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.160 which is way more of a character, you know, especially 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:48.920 by the end of Win's World, It's like you do 0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.440 not have a normal bone in your part. You walk 0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.680 into a scene and you're a cartoon character, and so 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.080 it was so cool to see you as just this 0:37:56.239 --> 0:38:00.760 like more like just straightforward, kind of a straight man, 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.319 but you're still very funny. But it was like, yes, 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.719 this guy should have his own show. It makes so 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.920 many running the ship, setting the tone. Oh, it just 0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:10.879 fits you so well. 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:11.600 Thank you. 0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:15.279 A major set piece is their industrial sliding door that 0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.080 they have that seems like a big thing. It opens 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.360 up and it's their friend and their other roomy Weissman. 0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:22.440 He says, please tell me that's vegetable soup on the stairs, 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:24.080 referencing I'm assuming puke. 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.520 Vomit, good vomit joke. Get the show started. 0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:30.960 Alex is still giddy. You're never gonna guess who called Wiseman, 0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:34.520 guesses mister Miller, our middle school gym teacher. Alex is concerned. No, 0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.480 but why would he call great gloried? Wiseman admits, I 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.720 don't know. I've just been thinking about him lately. Alex 0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.440 is unfazed. Megan Murphy called, she wants to see me tonight. 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.720 Wiseman not as stoked. She thinks she can just waltz 0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.000 back into your life after five years. Forget it, Alex, 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.279 We've moved on. Alex fights back. It's the best relationship 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:53.279 he's ever had. Now. 0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.120 One thing I seriously noticed. And if you go back 0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.640 and you watch so we had. This is the first scene. 0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.000 We're in front of the audience and you can see 0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.640 how nervous Josh is and when he puts up his hands, 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:08.960 his hands are shake and shaking like this, like no, Alex, 0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:09.759 we've moved on. 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:11.960 And I was like, oh, that's right, I can remember. 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:16.439 Should do a pilot or redo a pilot. Every show 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:19.600 should write the first six episodes and shoot like two 0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:20.520 through six and. 0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:22.000 Go back and do the pie. I know that's such 0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.759 a good idea, and rewrite that first after two through six. 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.080 You really help. Yeah, you can tell he's nervous. 0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:27.520 Yeah. 0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:29.680 Todd reminds him that they dated for seven days, but 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:31.800 Alex calls them the best seven days of his life. 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.080 It was like a movie montage, except they didn't make 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.279 love in the sand. Here comes a real Wilfredell moment. 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.560 By the way, Todd grimaces make love. What are you 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.160 one hundred years old? Alex wants to be romantic, not 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.560 make it all about sex, but Wiseman says it was 0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:46.799 hot though, right, and then Will perfectly turns them, Oh dude, 0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.400 you should have been there. Well, you know what I mean, 0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:53.040 you shouldn't have been there, great timing. Wiseman was there 0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.640 for the tragic ending though, and Todd reminist says, ah, yes. 0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:59.200 Day eight, Alex tells them it wasn't Megan's fault. Her 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.520 dad got transfer to Kenya. Todd wonders why she waited 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.840 five years to call. Then it's a good question, Alex reiterates, 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:10.040 she was in Kenya. They have a fledgling telecommunications network. Plus, 0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:11.759 all that matters is that he gets a second chance 0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:16.680 with her. That's the fledgling telecommunications is a big piece 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.919 of the commercial for this show. It did right, Yeah, 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:21.279 it aired a couple of times and I was like, 0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.359 that's a weird pick, is it really? 0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:25.080 Oh that's what they picked? Is that line? For some 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:26.640 time I thought you meant that that was an on 0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:28.360 running gag in the episode. 0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:30.799 No, it's the commercial for the show for people to 0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:32.480 tune in. That's like the big joke piece. 0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.600 That's what they were Hey, they're trying to viewers. 0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.520 Is a mistake. I think this whole first scene should 0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.359 have just been should have just been the scene from 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:44.080 the first episode, the next episode, Yeah, because this just 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.400 has a I'm just I'm lost. I'm like, what is 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.279 the you mean? And also like, you know an age 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.680 of television where you just have three white guys, like 0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.240 as the start, it was like, now, distinguishing you guys 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:55.000 is is hard. 0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.239 I was like, Who's who? How do I know which? Yeah? 0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.480 What's their gimmicks? What's the end? You guys all kind 0:40:59.520 --> 0:40:59.960 of are? 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.160 They eventually bring in a white lady though. 0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:05.120 But you got the other one kind of of the 0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.640 same age, You're the same type in a lot of ways. 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.799 I was just like, I'm I'm not sure what the 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.320 inn is here, Like, what's the conflict? What's the difference? 0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.520 Is everybody's just too generic. 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:14.480 You know? 0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:16.520 And I'm sure they got sharper as it went along. 0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.240 They do they do. Yeah, I did think to myself, 0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.200 like what is the difference between the three? But you 0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:22.400 do get that leader, yeah. 0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:22.879 Which is great. 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:24.480 You're right if you see if you open in that 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:27.120 restaurant scene from the second one and you just delineate 0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.080 who we all are, it does you all. 0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:32.080 Want the same thing? Different angles? And different results. 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:35.080 Perfect. Alex is proud he's no longer a dumb college kid. 0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.080 You ate Captain Crunch for dinner. He stuffs a full 0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:39.720 pizza slice in his mouth, then continues with his mouth class. 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.640 I'm a moderately successful guy who happens to run his 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.200 own music. Webon business with the food. 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:46.120 Gotta do it. 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.000 Wiseman reminds him their young guys with no attachments, they 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:50.920 can get any girl they want. Todd gives them a 0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:54.839 knowing look and Wiseman size Theoretically. Alex says, Megan wasn't 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:56.520 just any girl. All she had to do was put 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:58.480 her hand on his arm. Todd rolls his eyes. Oh, 0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.960 here we go, the old double squeeze. Alex is adam, 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:02.840 and it was amazing. She'd stare in your eyes, the 0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.040 corners of her mouth would curl ever so slightly, and 0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:06.879 when you think it couldn't get any better, she'd give 0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.560 you the squeeze. He mimics the action on Wiseman's arm, 0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.839 forcing him to blurt out, I could be ready by seven. 0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.000 We see a sped up exterior and we all know 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.759 that means day is turning tonight. Oh yeah, we're back 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:19.839 in the apartment. Probably an argument I could make two 0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.560 for your pilot to not have the first two scenes 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.239 in the same space. Ye whatever. Alex is putting the 0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.920 finishing touches on his date night fit. He tries ironing 0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:30.319 his shirt while still wearing it, and he screams in pain. 0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.760 Funny scene. Wiseman walks by with a basket of laundry. 0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.879 Alex asks what are those? He responds, sexy sheets. This 0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.120 is his Kramer by the way. At this point, yeah, 0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.040 Alex mocks him. Are those to go along with your 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.280 sexy Batman comforter? Were you Batman? 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.200 Oh yeah, I'd already done. We were already done by 0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:49.520 this point. 0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:49.799 Yeah. 0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.960 Yeah, small means nobody knew I was Batman because it's. 0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.400 Still I thought you were gonna maybe say to go 0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.400 along with your Batman underwear, and then it would be 0:42:58.400 --> 0:42:59.799 a very will for Delman. 0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:02.560 I know, will fredil moment. Yes, No, I was, yeah, 0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:06.080 it's right as I heard it last night too. I 0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.040 was like, I don't like making fun of Batman, right, not. 0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.760 Right, not right, right, not right, but they definitely reference 0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:12.600 it because of you, they do. 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:16.200 Wiseman is going, this is even this is a sort 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.680 of a better intro to your characters, because this says, 0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:21.520 these guys don't know how to be adults yet. They're 0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:23.840 living this adult life, but they don't know how to iron. 0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:28.640 They have batman, you know, blankets like that says the story. 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.439 I'm like, oh, now I know who these people are. 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:32.760 They're like trying to be grown ups, but they're still 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:34.839 not grown up yet. They don't know how to do 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.839 certain things. That's like describes way better than the first scene. 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:38.360 I agree. 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:40.520 Wiseman is going to the laundry mat and there are 0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.959 women at the laundry mat. These sexy sheets are bait. 0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.120 We hear a buzz and Wiseman opens the door to 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.880 see a cute girl, Kasey Parker. Wiseman asker, what do 0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.680 you think of these sexy sheets? She bluntly responds, could 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:52.560 you not stand so close to me? Did somebody here 0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:53.400 to call for a temp? 0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:55.080 Great entrance? 0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:58.200 Me not stand so close to me? And Wiseman nervously 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.400 shuffles backwards. Alex said it was him and wishes Wiseman 0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.200 good night, making it obvious he needs to leave. As 0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.680 Wiseman awkwardly leaves, Alex tells her there are some new 0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.160 ads that need to go up on his website tonight 0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:10.960 he do it himself, but he has a date and 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:13.880 starts to get into the complicated Megan situation before realizing 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:17.239 she doesn't need to know this at all. He goes 0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:18.880 to grab her some water in case. He takes a 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:21.279 seat on the couch, but she immediately springs up. We 0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.640 hear a groan come from underneath some pillows. It's taught. 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:28.960 He thanks her for cracking his bag. You're so sweaty. 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:32.040 Also a commercial moment again, Oh was it? Okay? I'm 0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:34.200 just because I want to know why did people not 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:36.840 tune in? Why was it the least watch network show? 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:38.600 So I watched some commercials and I was like, yeah, 0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:42.000 you don't sell it, that's why. Yeah. Alex returns with 0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.120 the water and she asks, there isn't a toothless kid 0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.640 with a banjo in the other room, is there? He 0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:48.840 assures her Todd is harmless deliverance reference. 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.799 Ye, yeah, gotta be. I just saw how sweaty he was. 0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.440 He's obviously under that blanket for like fifteen minutes. 0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:57.759 I'm sure. He says, It's all basic stuff and gives 0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:59.400 her a quick rundown of the task. He gives her 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.359 his cell phone number in case she needs it as 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.080 he's leaving. Uh, he tells Casey, if Todd gets cranky, 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:05.600 just put on dark side of the moon, give him 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.160 a beer, and he'll go right to sleep. And then 0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:09.399 she sort of pets his head. Yeah. 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.400 So this scene describes all these characters way better. And 0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.440 it should have been her starting the show now because 0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.640 she's coming into this world and has to meet these 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.800 three guys and figure out who they are. And I 0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.480 would have been it. So it should have started with 0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:23.520 her like getting ready for her intempt job and then 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:25.839 letting her be the audience surget into this world. 0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:27.880 Yeah, that's right. We go to the We go to 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:29.520 the laundry mat, which would have been good too because 0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:31.920 it was a second scene outside of the set. Wiseman 0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.000 is stuffing the sexy sheets into a washing machine and 0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:36.680 we hear a seductive voice say, hey, sexy sheets. He 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:38.719 stares at the off camera woman with a huge grin 0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.640 on his face. Very gramer again. We go to we 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:46.640 go to break break, We go we go to a 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:49.640 commercial break on YouTube. Very cool part. We could see all. 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.200 And that's when I wrote down the real death knell 0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:58.719 for this show was that there was an Osbourne's and 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.000 I was like, right, this is when reality was taking over. 0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:05.960 So shows like this, like just good old fashioned sitcoms 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.920 were not doing well. Everybody was tuning in to watch 0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:12.960 Ozzy Osbourne and his family cutting up this stuff in 0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:13.480 their kitchen. 0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:18.160 Sweet Life, Simple Life. That was so that's what. 0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:19.960 So when I saw the promo for that, I was like, 0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.640 oh God, it's like that's what was happening, and it's 0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.240 like nobody was watching these shows. 0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.680 Yeah. Well, on the more positive side, we do get 0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.480 a pretty great carat top one Hunter collect commercial, which 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.960 I was excited to see. We are now in the restaurant. 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.560 Alex is nervously pacing waiting for Megan to arrive. She 0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:37.359 eventually walks through the door. They look at each other 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.960 and on say hello. Alex makes his way over to her, 0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.840 but abruptly trips on a stair. He eventually gets to 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:46.480 turn and passionately they kiss. She sort of kisses him. 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:47.520 Yeah, she grabs me. 0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:50.480 Yeah. Alex is shocked. Wow, it's like riding a bike. 0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.239 She nervously giggles. She wasn't planning on doing that, but 0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:55.840 just seeing him made her. He agrees and says she 0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:58.640 looks amazing. He suggests they grab a table, but Megan 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.600 stops him. She's a little heirist. There's something she needs 0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:03.680 to give him. She hands Alex something and he excitedly 0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.360 responds to my seventh grade swim medal. I've been looking 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.000 for this forever. She's sorry she took it, but she 0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:10.640 knew it was his good luck charm and she wanted 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:12.320 something to remember him by. He looks it over and 0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:14.759 then gives it back. He insists she keep it. You 0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:20.600 can always get another one. Seventh readers are really slowe This. 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:22.040 Is also you know, one of the problems I have 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.959 when I watched the show is this is pretty close 0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:28.600 to peak anxiety years for me. Really, So this whole 0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:29.680 thing was, This. 0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:33.160 Entire run of these shows was really tough. 0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:36.040 That's one of the reasons why Jen and I like that, 0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:37.759 you know, because I liked her so much. But I 0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:39.919 was just such in a dark place at the time 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:42.160 that it just was never gonna work. When you're when 0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.640 you're dealing with that kind of mental illness, you're never 0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:46.360 gonna hey, let's jump into a relationship. 0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:48.400 It just wasn't. In the car, can't tell, will you 0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:48.759 look good? 0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:49.600 And thank you? 0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:51.440 Yeah? But it's Yeah, the. 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.120 Guest cast is so good. I mean, she's amazing and 0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:57.279 the other woman is amazing, to the degree that if 0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:00.800 they weren't playing crazy characters, they might be becoming regulars. 0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:01.719 At this point the. 0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:03.720 Wheel back, I think they can reel them back a little. 0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:05.919 But at this moment when they you guys just kissed, 0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:07.520 I was like, is she going to become a regular? 0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:08.880 Is that? You know? Is this going to be like 0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.799 friends where there's three girls and three guys but ends 0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:14.239 up being No. The point of this episode is, you know, 0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:16.600 the crazy girl trope, like the crazy dates that go 0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:19.560 so wrong, but actually like it could have gone a 0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:21.399 different way, Like it could have you know, because they're 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.560 so good, they're the acting is amazing. 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:27.520 A little later in the restaurant, Alex and Megan are 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:29.200 now at a table and he's telling her about the 0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:30.920 time he was stuck on a ski lift in Vermont 0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.400 for four hours. She says she's never gonna get on 0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:36.480 a ski lift. She's terrified of heights. Alex is confused 0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.040 she took him rock climbing once she explains that was 0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.160 before the plane crash. She was in a twelve person 0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:45.080 plane headed in Na Robi and they got struck by lightning. 0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:47.040 I love his response. 0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:48.680 It's just like, oh my god. 0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.040 But that's what you're You're acting is perfect because you're like, 0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:56.560 this sounds crazy. You're you're saying all the right things, 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.200 but your tone is like, I think, are you joking? 0:48:59.480 --> 0:48:59.719 Are you? 0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:04.719 I love it you're listening in horror. She continues. The 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:07.040 worst part is it dislotted a piece of the windshield, 0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:09.319 which not the pilot out. I was closest. I was 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:11.520 the closest person to the cockpit, so I grabbed the controls, 0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:14.080 and the guys in the tower talked me down. Alex 0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:18.440 is dumbfounded. You landed a plane. Also good if I'm 0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:20.319 the network and I'm arguing, get to a quicker. This 0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:21.279 is what you get too quickly. 0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:23.799 I felt the same thing. I felt it picked up 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:24.560 especially here. 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:26.759 Yeah, yeah, at first I was terrified, But to tell 0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:28.400 you the truth, it's all all like driving a car. 0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.640 Just then, Wiseman and his new laundry Matt Lover, who 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:35.919 actually kind of looks like him, right yeah, walks into 0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:38.480 the restaurant, arm in arm. She looks around and pressed, 0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:42.680 this place is fancy, Weisman adds, and reasonable and unreasonable 0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:44.480 didn't necessarily know what the joke was other than the 0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:47.320 fact that you read it like craver. But yeah, reasonable, 0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:02.160 All right. We're back in the apartment. Casey's hard at 0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:04.279 work on the computer when Todd, who was holding a 0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:07.279 huge sandwich, points out, you've been working for forty five 0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:10.440 minutes straight. You are way overdue for a break. She sighs. 0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:13.640 She's expected to be further along, but someone spilled chocolate 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.320 milk on her to do list. Todd explains he was 0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:20.960 startled by the modem, another timely reference for people who 0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:23.560 don't know. Modems used to be very loud when you 0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:24.239 logged into the. 0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:31.080 Internet, things like huge screams that sandwich looks so good, 0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:33.760 Oh my god, so good, and the sandwich looks so good. 0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:37.560 Great food on TV. Yes, just look great. Yeah, he explains, 0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:40.160 I'm attempt too. Frankly, this whole period in work ethic thing, 0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:42.160 it's kind of run counter It kind of runs counter 0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:45.279 to the whole temp philosophy. Casey asked why Alex didn't 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:47.160 just use Todd as attempt, and Todd explains he had 0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.440 other important matters to attend to, and he takes a 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:53.400 ridiculous bite of that giant sandwich. Yeah, Casey stares at 0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:56.360 the sandwich. Is there a waffle in there? With a mouthful? 0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:57.319 He asked, what do you want one? 0:50:57.560 --> 0:50:59.600 I love though his reading of that too, yeah you 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:01.560 want it is like a smile on his face. It's 0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:02.160 so great. 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:03.839 Yeah, you were starting. We're starting to pick up how 0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.440 these three guys could be together, right, Like we're starting 0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:09.400 to feel it and starting to understand their characters. Casey's 0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:11.560 had enough. She doesn't want a sandwich or chocolate milk. 0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:13.399 She doesn't want to play risk or compare how tall 0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:15.080 they are, and she really doesn't want to talk to 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:18.520 his grandfather on the phone again. Maybe a rewrite for 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:19.400 the button. 0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.040 I would I thought this said the better button than 0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:22.640 that better button. Maybe thought the same thing. 0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:26.080 We're back at the restaurant, cheap pilot. As far as sets, right. 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:29.239 Yeah, yeah, I also remember just how deep all the 0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:31.840 sets were so hard Deep Boy meets World had really 0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:35.560 shallow sets. We were just used to, like the classroom 0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:38.280 and even the hallway. We were kind of not upstage 0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:42.160 a whole lot. Just so yeah, coming into kind of 0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:43.959 shows where it's like, all right, now we're gonna wheel 0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:45.800 the cameras back to the back part of it's like, 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:47.360 oh god, okay, that's totally different. 0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:51.120 So yeah, it was strange. Back at the restaurant, Wiseman's 0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:53.319 telling his date that being a dental assistant is a 0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:55.120 lot cooler than people think. If you wanted, I could 0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:57.640 wipen your teeth to night. She wonders if he has 0:51:57.680 --> 0:51:59.600 any plans to become a dentist. He says, now, he 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:01.840 has other aspirations, but probably will stay in teeth in 0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:05.799 some capacity, possibly a consultant, a consultant teeth, consultant teeth. 0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:08.239 Because she says, this is fun. She thought she was 0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:09.839 going to spend the night doing laundry, but here she 0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.080 is with him. Then the waiter arrives and hands them 0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:16.640 two wineglasses, and she turns and shouts time. It was 0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:22.239 just incredible. Read yeah, so good, startling the audience too. 0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.600 It's so good. Wiseman is shocked. It's so funny. I 0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:27.480 mean that that might be my biggest laugh for the episode. 0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:30.080 It was great. It was great, good. Yeah. The waiter 0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:32.680 apologize in it and assures her the appetizers will be 0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:35.120 right out. She scoffs they better be. She turns to 0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.239 Wiseman as if nothing happens, So that's what I do. 0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:42.640 He responds another great read prison Guard, prison card. So good. 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:45.560 Then over at Alex and Meghan's table, he seems annoyed. 0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:48.520 So you invented Pokemon? She nods, Yeah, remember how I 0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:52.400 used a doodle? Alex Blutley states, not really. She continues, 0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:54.680 I had this Japanese penpal, and every time i'd write her, 0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.239 I'd draw these little cartoons in the margin. Next thing 0:52:57.280 --> 0:52:59.319 I know, they're on TV and she never calls me again. 0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:01.000 Alex face out, Wow. 0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:05.759 I remember distinctly remember her because if memory serves, she's 0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:09.040 from Chicago and she'd hated how she could she say pan, 0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.320 pale and sad. If you listen to it again, she's like, 0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:14.160 I have this pan pal. I can't get the Chicago 0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:15.239 out of them. It's like, it's fine. 0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.080 Have you guys had this conversation with people before where 0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:20.840 they're like, oh, you know I wrote that I invented 0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:25.400 Harry Potter. It's like the biggest red flag for me 0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:27.719 when somebody's like, well, I would have been a great 0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:30.239 filmmaker except somebody stole my idea. And you're always like, 0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:34.719 you mean the boy Wizard or it's always just I'm like, 0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:37.879 but maybe it was actually just well written. Maybe it's 0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:41.000 really good and your version sucked. Yeah, it's like. 0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:44.359 Yeah generic, they get too where it's like I really 0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:46.840 came up with an idea for a submarine movie. It's like, what, 0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:49.359 that's it. There's a lot of them, that's what you got, 0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:50.439 because there's plenty of those. 0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:54.040 It's the Christen Wig character that like I created. It 0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:58.320 was always up upping someone on sl Well, I actually 0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:04.240 I built the Titanic. Yes, Megan is beaming. Old feelings 0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:07.000 are resurfacing. She asked, what about you? He just stares 0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:09.040 back with a fake grin. It's hard to describe what 0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:11.719 I'm feeling right now. We go to another commercial break. 0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:14.040 This time we get a Jack and dexter ad and 0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:17.040 one of those MasterCard ads where something ends up priceless. 0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:19.600 Yeah, well they are all And we also get a 0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:23.560 promo for as If yep that says it's not a 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:26.960 reality showy, it feels like one or whatever. It has 0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.560 like a line where I was like, again, realities take 0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:32.760 it over, yeep, Hey, especially for smaller networks. 0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:36.320 Cheaper cheap, yes, up there. Yeah, put a bunch of 0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:37.560 people in the house and film them. 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:40.920 Does not sell me on as if either. Back in 0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:43.240 the apartment, Casey stands up from the desk and stretches 0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:45.080 before making her way to the living room. Todd, who's 0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:46.879 on the couch, asked what she's doing. She says she's 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:48.920 taking a five minute break, and Todd is pleased you're 0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:51.960 coming to the dark side. She's actually just downloading some logos, 0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:53.600 but if it makes him feel any better, she's ready 0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:56.239 to have that conversation about how much Foghorn Leghorn weighs 0:54:56.280 --> 0:55:00.600 in real life. Todd notes, well, he's actually times bigger 0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:03.920 than any other chickens. Casey corrects him, Actually, I'm not 0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:07.640 ready for this conversation. Todd tells her it's okay, his 0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:10.320 favorite show's coming on. Yes, really, who's in the center square? 0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:13.759 He reveals it's actually Antiques Roadshow. Nice little storyline here, 0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:14.600 I thought anti. 0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:21.320 Does anybody remember what other famous sitcom characters really connect 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:22.560 over Antiques Roadshow? 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:23.239 Mm hmm. 0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:26.920 So one of the best episodes of Fraser is Fraser 0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:30.040 his dad and Niles turn it into a drinking game, 0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:32.520 which is kind of what this is. Yeah, so they're 0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:35.440 like all right, all right, Sherry, and they're like all right, 0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:38.399 which way anytime somebody says it was like linoleum, you've 0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:40.239 got well, this isn't real, this is actually ananoleum. 0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:44.200 Oh drink drink joke here man, the same show. They 0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:47.200 take that from Fraser then directly, I'm pretty sure. 0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:51.120 Fraser was before this had Yeah, weird Casey Surprise. Seriously, 0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:52.840 that's weird. I kind of like that show. He wonders 0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:54.759 why it's so weird? Do they like the same show? 0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:57.400 And Casey, without missing a beat, just says, because you 0:55:57.520 --> 0:55:59.120 use books as plates. 0:55:58.760 --> 0:56:03.600 Which is a great line character Yea, yeah, totally really good. 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:07.000 Yep. Yeah, you're learning so much about the characters here again, 0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:10.680 could have went faster. Back at the restaurant, Wiseman tells 0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:12.680 his date that he was on the high school football team. 0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:16.040 She's interested, and that's what position he played, He grins, owl. 0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:19.239 I was the mascot. She loves football. She went to 0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:21.279 the super Bowl in Tampa, great town. Just don't ever 0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:24.279 punch a cop. They sit in silence. They sit in 0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.200 silence as she stares him down. 0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:30.680 Had this happen? Why had this happened? I was dating 0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:34.960 a girl back in the day and getting along great 0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.160 out for a while, and she told me. She's like, oh, yeah, 0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:40.319 except when I got arrested for beating up that cop 0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:44.160 and I went what And she's like, yeah, I was 0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:47.400 walking out of a bar and somebody grabbed me and 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:50.200 spun me around and I turned around swinging, and I 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:52.400 punched twice and I looked up and it was a 0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:55.520 CoP's like and I was in jail, and I was like, okay, 0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.080 well it was nice beating you. 0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:02.760 That's pretty cool. Yeah, she'd be fun. Oh my god. 0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:03.279 Uh. 0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:06.480 Back over at Alex and Meghan's table, she's talking about Sasquatch. 0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:08.319 I didn't believe in him either until this one night 0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:11.040 on my uncle's boat. Alex cuts her off. Okay, Meghan, 0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:13.440 before you get into that, there's something I really need 0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:15.400 to know. She smiles. What is it. I'll tell you anything. 0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:17.640 He gives a fake laugh. I know you will. He 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:19.560 takes a deep breath. When we said goodbye, you told 0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:21.320 me it was because your family was moving to Kenya. 0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:23.920 Was that the truth? She stutters, Well, not entirely. We 0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:26.840 didn't move until later that summer. Alex is confused. Then 0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:29.040 why did you stop seeing me? She nervously says. It's 0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:31.280 hard to talk about. He says it was really a 0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:33.720 significant point in my life. Whatever it is, I can 0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.280 handle it. She blurts out. I was sleeping with Professor Markowitz. 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:37.960 I had to do it. He threatened to fail me. 0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:41.320 Alex is shocked. But he was gay in ninety. She 0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:43.240 strokes his arm. For what it's worth, whenever I was 0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:44.680 with him, I was thinking of you. He gives it 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:47.200 a nervous grin and in response, is that a good thing? 0:57:47.720 --> 0:57:49.600 I just want to I wanted to hear Rusties, but 0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:53.120 he was gay and ninety I wanted to do Rusty's 0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:54.000 Russy's saying. 0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:57.560 The silence is broken by a familiar voice, Hey, you 0:57:58.040 --> 0:58:00.760 did these chicken fingers come off a chicken's ass? It's 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.880 Wiseman's date yelling again at the waiter. Alex makes eye 0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:06.920 contact with Wiseman and angrily motions towards the bathroom with 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:11.400 his eyes. Uh not one of my favorite overall scenes. 0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:14.640 Now, I mean, I think your character needs a little 0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:18.400 bit of specificity, Like I think for me, like just 0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:20.400 listening to this recap, like, oh, it would have been 0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:23.400 great if you were like a workaholic, like you were 0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:25.440 the kid who were like came out of college. I 0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:27.760 just want to focus on my career and it worked, 0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:31.520 but you missed out on dating. You know that those 0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:34.160 years where you would have and so you're pining after 0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:36.640 your old girlfriend because you haven't done anything else. 0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:38.520 So that would have like given me a way in 0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:39.000 to you. 0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:41.680 Right. Oh, he's the guy who spent way too much 0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:44.240 time on computers and working to make money and now 0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:47.439 least having success. He's realizing he's missing this other part 0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:49.600 of his life, so he's diving in. And I would 0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:51.560 have been like, Okay, I'm with this guy as it is. 0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:53.920 I was like, you're kind of just a generic dude, 0:58:53.960 --> 0:58:56.120 Like there's nothing like that. Yeah, exactly. It would have 0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:57.400 been nice to have an angle. 0:58:57.520 --> 0:58:59.640 Yeah. The two of them burst into the bathroom in 0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:01.720 Wiseman and let's out of sigh relief. Thank god you're here, 0:59:01.840 --> 0:59:03.640 Alex reminds him. Of course I'm here. I told you 0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:05.760 I was coming here. What are you doing? Wiseman explains, 0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:07.520 I needed a cool restaurant. I met this girl at 0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:10.840 the Laundry Mountain. We just kind of clicked. Alex sarcastically responds, 0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:15.680 she seems wonderful, great, grateful, great read. Wiseman admits, I'm scared. 0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:17.440 I'm in way over my head. Alex groans, I know 0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:19.560 me too. Meghan's crazy. Everything that comes out of her 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:23.080 mouth is a lie. Wiseman asks, beautiful, wonderful Meghan from college. 0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:25.280 Alex isn't even sure she went to college. Did you 0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:27.120 ever see her go to class? Because I never saw 0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:29.880 her go to class. Wiseman jumps on the sink counter 0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:32.120 and reaches for a window. Alex says, what's what are 0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:34.400 you doing? Wiseman says they got to get out of here. 0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:36.920 Alex says he can't leave. Megan's got that good luck medal. 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:39.400 Wiseman doesn't hesitate, Well, good luck see you on the 0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:42.240 other side. Alex pulls him down, and Wiseman's confused. Why 0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:43.320 do you want to go back in there for your 0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:46.600 stupid seventh grade swimming medal. Alex insists it's not stupid. 0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:48.600 It means something to him. Plus he doesn't want Meghan. 0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:50.920 There's a dinosaur skeleton under my house Murphy to have it. 0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:53.479 But you get I mean, I get that now she's 0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:55.760 lying to him, so he sees another side of her. 0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:58.480 But he hasn't had the medal for years, and then 0:59:58.520 --> 0:59:59.400 he gave it back to her. 0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:01.440 That's but it needs to be connected to his character 1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:03.240 in some way, like, you know, this is the one 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:06.480 thing that I did that I don't know somehow if 1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:08.560 it was it was something that because I love the 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:10.800 Hyjenks of like we got to get this away from her, 1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:13.000 but like if it was connected to your character in 1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:15.280 a way, like oh, if I could just get this back, 1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:17.760 this was the last time I, you know, won something 1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:19.720 that my mom was proud of, you know, or like, 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:21.479 I don't know, just give me. 1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:23.600 One time in my life I was athletic something like that. 1:00:23.640 --> 1:00:24.080 I don't know. 1:00:24.160 --> 1:00:26.280 Yeah, like I thought the same thing. I was, like, 1:00:26.320 --> 1:00:28.320 but you handed it back to her. I mean, I 1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:31.480 know she hasn't lied to you yet, but you still couldn't. 1:00:32.000 --> 1:00:33.920 I didn't even know. You didn't even really you know, right, 1:00:33.960 --> 1:00:37.000 Oh yeah, this, yeah exactly. Wiseman asked how he's going 1:00:37.040 --> 1:00:38.760 to get it back. Alex doesn't know. That's where you 1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:42.320 come in. Wiseman growns, I'm sitting in water again. Maybe 1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:44.280 maybe would have pitched a better out there. 1:00:44.560 --> 1:00:47.680 I also it was I distinctly remember something about his 1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:50.480 line read because it was like that to me, that 1:00:50.520 --> 1:00:52.360 couldn't have been the best read. It was almost like 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:54.840 it was so thrown away that it was a very 1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:55.640 strange read. 1:00:55.480 --> 1:00:57.120 For that line. It was a whisper for an out. 1:00:57.240 --> 1:01:00.400 Yeah in the apartment, Casey's all finished. Todd congrad her, 1:01:00.440 --> 1:01:02.240 and she proudly states I even did some extra stuff 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:04.320 he didn't ask for. Can you sign my time card? 1:01:04.480 --> 1:01:06.880 Todd nod. Sure, I'll put down you for forty hours. 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:08.919 Casey laughs and sits out next to him to watch 1:01:08.920 --> 1:01:11.440 Antique's Roadshow. Todd explains that a woman thinks her toaster 1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:13.880 was built by the Shakers in the mid nineteenth century, 1:01:14.200 --> 1:01:16.720 and Casey points out that the microwave he's referring to 1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:19.840 is actually a Victorian pie chest. Todd rolls his eyes. Now, 1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:21.720 you're just making stuff up. She assures him she's not, 1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:23.880 and Todd wants to make a bet. She says she 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:25.640 doesn't have any extra money to throw away, and Todd 1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:29.040 lee slightly remarksable, then let's bet something else. She instantly asked, 1:01:29.200 --> 1:01:31.640 like what, and they smile at each other. I did 1:01:31.680 --> 1:01:39.560 not think Strip Antiques Roadshow first thing. The first starts myself. 1:01:39.560 --> 1:01:40.560 I was like, I wonder what this game is going 1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:43.040 to be funny. At the restaurant, Alex makes his way 1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:45.520 back to Megan, with Wiseman following close behind, then ducking 1:01:45.560 --> 1:01:48.080 under the table. Meghan suggests they just skipped asert and 1:01:48.120 --> 1:01:50.280 heads straight back to the hotel. She is d two 1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:55.080 earl two ear. Alex immediately shouts no, he just really 1:01:55.120 --> 1:01:58.080 loves dessert. She brushes it off. She's thinking of extending 1:01:58.120 --> 1:01:59.919 her state. What do you think about that? Meanwhile, Wise 1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:03.320 picking up strange objects off the floor, examining them. Alex 1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:05.680 answers her, I think that sounds like I might get expensive, 1:02:05.720 --> 1:02:08.800 She smirks, not if I stay with you. She kicks 1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:10.640 her leg out underneath the table and it almost hits 1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:13.160 Wiseman in the face. He watches her foot bounce back 1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:15.160 and forth in amusement, which was an extra shock. 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:17.240 The whole thing underneath the table is really weird to 1:02:17.480 --> 1:02:18.520 like he didn't need any of this. 1:02:18.680 --> 1:02:20.800 Yeah, Alex says he lives in a loft apartment in 1:02:20.840 --> 1:02:22.760 Chinatown with these two other guys, and they actually can't 1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:24.920 have any people stay over. It's in their lease. Wiseman's 1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:27.240 now reaching for Megan's handbag so he can grab the medal. 1:02:27.440 --> 1:02:29.080 Then we hear a woman's voice ask what are you 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:32.480 doing down there? It's his date standing well above him 1:02:32.480 --> 1:02:35.440 with her arms crossed. He gets up in waves good evening. 1:02:36.640 --> 1:02:39.800 Alex thinks, fast, you remember Wiseman, right, We're always playing 1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:41.400 that game to see you can sneak up on each other. 1:02:41.440 --> 1:02:43.160 He turns to Wiseman, you almost got me their pal, 1:02:43.280 --> 1:02:45.920 and they playfully fight each other, sort of throwing their 1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:49.960 arms the restaurant again. Some time has passed. The two 1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:51.600 couples have now moved in down bigs. 1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:54.400 A double day, moved into a wacky double. 1:02:54.280 --> 1:02:58.240 Date bitcom one O one. They all sit together. Wiseman's 1:02:58.320 --> 1:03:00.080 date is telling Meghan, you can't do New York in 1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:02.520 a weekend. You have to stay. Megan agrees, I wanted 1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:05.280 to stay, but Alex's least doesn't allow guest. Wiseman's blurts out, 1:03:05.320 --> 1:03:08.400 I didn't know that. That sucks. That sucks. Alex gives 1:03:08.480 --> 1:03:10.400 him a look and begins to push Meghan's purse over 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:13.080 to him under the table to get that medal. Instead, 1:03:13.120 --> 1:03:15.200 the purse hits Wiseman's date and they start to play 1:03:15.280 --> 1:03:17.400 foot seat with Alex, which is like, she's down to 1:03:17.480 --> 1:03:20.560 party this mone she is this one. Yeah, she seems excited. 1:03:20.880 --> 1:03:23.240 She tells Megan, Oh, I'm gonna ski this weekend. You 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:26.120 could stay at my place. Megan's excited you ski the 1:03:26.200 --> 1:03:28.680 date response, Yeah, I almost made the Olympic ski team, 1:03:28.920 --> 1:03:32.040 Megan guess, so did I, but right before the trials 1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:34.280 I got stuck on a ski lift in Vermont. By 1:03:34.320 --> 1:03:36.280 the time they got me down, my fingers were actually 1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:42.240 turning blue. So she's a psychopathy. Yeah, yeah, this is 1:03:42.280 --> 1:03:43.040 Alex's story. 1:03:43.400 --> 1:03:46.640 Very smart because you're gonna steal somebody's story, don't take 1:03:46.680 --> 1:03:50.040 it from them. Twenty minutes, your audience, your audience. 1:03:49.720 --> 1:03:52.080 True psychopath. He has to get out of his date, 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:54.080 so he pretends to choke. The girls try to help him, 1:03:54.120 --> 1:03:56.080 and Wiseman is trying to figure this out. Are you choking? 1:03:56.480 --> 1:03:58.840 Alex gives him a look, and Wiseman loudly exclaims, oh, 1:03:58.840 --> 1:04:01.160 I get it. It's an allergic action, sort of figuring 1:04:01.200 --> 1:04:03.800 out that this is not real. Just then, Wiseman reaches 1:04:03.840 --> 1:04:06.160 into Megan's bag gets the metal. While all the girls 1:04:06.200 --> 1:04:08.760 are frantically trying to help Alex, Wiseman's date shouts out, 1:04:08.800 --> 1:04:12.280 I know CPR, and Alex looks horrified. This is going 1:04:12.320 --> 1:04:14.240 too far. Wiseman says he's gonna take him to the 1:04:14.240 --> 1:04:16.320 emergency room, and Meghan insists that she goes with him. 1:04:16.360 --> 1:04:19.400 Alex pauses his allergic reaction. Had to replay this forty 1:04:19.440 --> 1:04:21.680 two times to figure out the line. The line is no, 1:04:21.960 --> 1:04:25.720 the cab won't stop for four two. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 1:04:26.240 --> 1:04:30.360 even the subtitles got it wrong. Oh really yeah. Wiseman 1:04:30.440 --> 1:04:32.600 tells the women to stay at the restaurant and settle 1:04:32.640 --> 1:04:35.040 the bill, and the guy's bolt out the door. In 1:04:35.080 --> 1:04:37.160 the taxi, Alex is still in eye. I can't believe 1:04:37.200 --> 1:04:39.760 she told you that ski lift story, Wiseman wonders. Didn't 1:04:39.760 --> 1:04:41.960 something like that happen to you? He responds, something exactly 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:44.840 like that happened to me. Wiseman is shocked. Wow, what 1:04:44.880 --> 1:04:48.280 are the chances? Alex explained, she stole my story. She's insane. 1:04:48.760 --> 1:04:50.800 Wiseman tries to make him feel better. At least Meghan 1:04:50.800 --> 1:04:52.920 didn't hold the waiter's hand over a candle to get 1:04:52.960 --> 1:04:57.840 more breadsticks. Alex. Alex is depressed. He had this vision 1:04:57.880 --> 1:04:59.360 of how everything was going to be, and now it's 1:04:59.400 --> 1:05:01.920 just gone. Wiseman admits, I'm with you, pal, and I 1:05:02.040 --> 1:05:04.720 hopes for Joe Lean. Alex gets his metal from Wiseman 1:05:04.800 --> 1:05:07.360 and excitedly puts it around his neck. Yeah. Then he 1:05:07.440 --> 1:05:09.520 realizes maybe I'll just wear it on the inside and 1:05:09.520 --> 1:05:11.800 tucks in his shirt. Again. Don't really know the joke there. 1:05:11.800 --> 1:05:14.080 No, just just that it's I think it's supposed to 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:16.240 be like two mouths, not cool to wear your seventh 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:20.040 grade metal. But but this is the scene where buttons buttons. 1:05:20.280 --> 1:05:22.200 But this is also the scene where you can thematically 1:05:22.600 --> 1:05:24.800 say what the show is about. Like, yes, you know, 1:05:24.880 --> 1:05:26.680 we were trying to be grown ups tonight were I 1:05:26.680 --> 1:05:28.920 thought we were ready to date and be you know, 1:05:29.200 --> 1:05:31.400 but I still feel like a little kid. Then you 1:05:31.400 --> 1:05:33.200 have the little kid joke about I got my seventh 1:05:33.200 --> 1:05:35.400 grade metal back. It's like something about the fact that 1:05:35.440 --> 1:05:40.480 you're stuck between childhood and college in the random say it. 1:05:40.560 --> 1:05:42.760 Have the character say some version of that, you know, 1:05:42.960 --> 1:05:45.560 in a real personal, non thematic way, But that says 1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:47.360 what the name of the show is, Like, I guess 1:05:47.400 --> 1:05:49.000 we're not ready yet. We thought we could do it, 1:05:49.040 --> 1:05:50.560 but we'll try again next week. You know. 1:05:51.000 --> 1:05:52.440 Is in this part of my life, I feel like 1:05:52.480 --> 1:05:53.840 I'm forty, and in this part of my life, I 1:05:53.840 --> 1:05:54.600 feel like I'm fortunate. 1:05:54.600 --> 1:05:56.800 I'm so ready to I'm running a business. Why can't 1:05:56.800 --> 1:05:58.520 I date a woman? And I can't even date a 1:05:58.560 --> 1:05:59.640 woman from my childhood? 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:01.560 And it's on yours back. Now that I have time, 1:06:01.600 --> 1:06:03.840 I'm just picking the wrong people or something like that, 1:06:03.880 --> 1:06:07.000 you know, like nowaday exactly all right. Back at the apartment, 1:06:07.040 --> 1:06:08.720 Todd and Casey are still on the couch, but now 1:06:08.720 --> 1:06:11.400 Todd is just in his underwear. They're shouting at the TV. 1:06:11.600 --> 1:06:14.240 Very invested in an antique Troe show. Casey guesses six 1:06:14.280 --> 1:06:17.000 thousand dollars minimum. Todd scoffs, are you blind? That's not 1:06:17.000 --> 1:06:19.600 even mahogany, that's not even wood. That's some kind of 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:21.800 naga crap that my spidy sense is telling me could 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:23.840 only have come from one decade. The man on the 1:06:23.840 --> 1:06:27.120 TV cuts him off production made in the seventies. Todd 1:06:27.160 --> 1:06:30.680 stands up victory. He turns to Casey, Now get that 1:06:30.880 --> 1:06:33.440 shirt off. She takes off her sweater to reveal a 1:06:33.520 --> 1:06:36.800 tank top underneath. Todd complains, that's not fair. She laughs, 1:06:36.840 --> 1:06:38.880 it's was cold this morning. Did you expect to see 1:06:38.880 --> 1:06:41.720 me in my lacy, skimpy sea through bra. Todd sits 1:06:41.760 --> 1:06:44.520 back down. He's only one item away. Casey laughs, Yeah, 1:06:44.520 --> 1:06:46.640 from being naked. I am so much better at this 1:06:46.720 --> 1:06:49.640 than you Todd's size. Oh no, it's over, Casey jumps 1:06:49.720 --> 1:06:52.520 up and exclaims, I won real jump there in the script, 1:06:52.560 --> 1:06:55.640 they didn't couldn't fit one more of those like television backs. 1:06:55.840 --> 1:06:56.240 No. 1:06:56.400 --> 1:06:56.840 Uh. 1:06:56.920 --> 1:06:58.960 They have good chemistry, by the way, very good. Them 1:06:58.960 --> 1:07:02.400 together are really really good. I wanted to see, like 1:07:02.680 --> 1:07:05.840 moving forward as an audience member. I was excited to 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:07.160 see where that relationship was. 1:07:07.280 --> 1:07:08.520 This is that what happened over the course. 1:07:09.000 --> 1:07:11.880 I believe so, But yeah, I think so. And it's 1:07:12.160 --> 1:07:15.160 there's just something about that that's really fun. Like I 1:07:15.240 --> 1:07:18.120 remember certain little things that popped up in other episodes 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:20.720 were laugh out loud funny. I remember, you know, you 1:07:20.880 --> 1:07:24.960 remember the Sopranos, the the woman who goes undercover to 1:07:25.040 --> 1:07:27.160 be aids. Oh, yeah, she's a friend. 1:07:27.360 --> 1:07:27.880 She's great. 1:07:28.080 --> 1:07:29.520 So she came on as a guest star. She was 1:07:29.560 --> 1:07:31.440 actually shooting Sopranos at the time. She couldn't tell us 1:07:31.440 --> 1:07:33.040 what she was doing, but she came on as a 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:35.520 guest star, and she shows up as one of his 1:07:35.640 --> 1:07:37.800 He's like, I have this kind of stalker client who 1:07:37.840 --> 1:07:41.040 keeps getting her teeth cleaned, and so she just keeps 1:07:41.040 --> 1:07:42.560 showing up to get her teeth clean, and the last 1:07:42.560 --> 1:07:44.680 time he walks in, she's butt naked in the chair, 1:07:45.600 --> 1:07:47.880 and they actually shot it where she's naked in the chair, 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:52.240 so she's covered by like the dental slates, but she's 1:07:52.400 --> 1:07:54.160 looks like she's just and he just walks back in 1:07:54.200 --> 1:07:56.240 and she's just like naked in the chair. So, I mean, 1:07:56.240 --> 1:07:58.760 we did things that were adult and very funny, but 1:07:58.840 --> 1:08:00.840 I don't remember how cookey if they were to the 1:08:00.880 --> 1:08:03.560 actual stories the problem I love if they only aired four, 1:08:03.600 --> 1:08:05.080 I wonder if we could even get the other seven. 1:08:05.080 --> 1:08:06.760 I got to get in touch with lesbian rigor, because 1:08:06.760 --> 1:08:10.200 I bet you they have them. It's fun to Todd 1:08:10.240 --> 1:08:12.240 stands to meet her at eye level. You just got lucky. 1:08:12.280 --> 1:08:13.840 They both stare at each other for a moment. They 1:08:13.880 --> 1:08:17.000 kisses looming. A voiceover from the TV announces up next 1:08:17.800 --> 1:08:21.439 Rutherford B. Hayes a biography. Todd breaks the ice. Well 1:08:21.479 --> 1:08:22.240 now it's just awkward. 1:08:22.400 --> 1:08:23.320 Now it's just awkward. 1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:25.080 Could have maybe come up with a better thing that 1:08:25.120 --> 1:08:25.960 made it awkward? Also? 1:08:26.080 --> 1:08:26.800 I know? 1:08:26.880 --> 1:08:29.479 Then behave yeah, yeah. Then we hear the lock begin 1:08:29.560 --> 1:08:31.840 to juggle, and Casey scrambles to grab her sweater and 1:08:31.920 --> 1:08:33.560 runs into a different room. The guys walk in to 1:08:33.640 --> 1:08:36.240 see Todd justin is underwear. Alex and Wiseman just stare 1:08:36.240 --> 1:08:38.360 at him. Todd waves as though nothing's out of the ordinary. 1:08:38.720 --> 1:08:40.960 Wiseman turns Alex. At least he's not wearing a helmet 1:08:41.040 --> 1:08:43.400 this time. Todd asked the guys what went wrong? They're 1:08:43.400 --> 1:08:46.960 back at nine thirty. Alex Bluntley states, yeah, Meghan was psycho. 1:08:47.479 --> 1:08:51.160 Wiseman wonders how he didn't know that in college. Sarcastically wonders, 1:08:51.200 --> 1:08:52.720 g I was eighteen and she was the first girl 1:08:52.760 --> 1:08:54.439 willing to sleep with me. How did I overlook that? 1:08:55.200 --> 1:08:57.040 Todd says, there's no need to sweat it. This is 1:08:57.080 --> 1:08:58.680 just a reminder to never pin your hopes on a 1:08:58.760 --> 1:09:02.240 fantasy girl. Fantasies, by definition, are perfect. Alex declares that 1:09:02.360 --> 1:09:04.280 one good thing did come out of this though. Up 1:09:04.400 --> 1:09:06.639 until now, every girl he's dated he's compared to Megan, 1:09:06.680 --> 1:09:08.800 and none of them have ever come close. Now, any 1:09:08.880 --> 1:09:11.160 girl with a valid driver's license is looking real good. 1:09:11.439 --> 1:09:15.280 Great will read. Wiseman nods, welcome to my world. Casey 1:09:15.360 --> 1:09:18.320 then returns clothed. Alex and Wiseman immediately stand at attention 1:09:18.360 --> 1:09:19.960 when they see her. She asks how the dates went, 1:09:20.000 --> 1:09:23.160 and the guys immediately lie, really good, great. Alex clears 1:09:23.200 --> 1:09:25.720 his throat, a little suspicious. I was just wondering how 1:09:25.760 --> 1:09:28.160 did work go? She tells him it went great. She 1:09:28.200 --> 1:09:31.120 accomplished everything he asked, and she defragged his heart drive. 1:09:31.840 --> 1:09:34.639 Wiseman creepily asks her, can you defrag my hard drive? 1:09:34.960 --> 1:09:38.920 All right? She sarcastically responds, Wow, that's hot. She does 1:09:39.000 --> 1:09:41.320 not think it's hot. She gets ready to leave, but 1:09:41.439 --> 1:09:43.960 Alex stops her. Actually, I was thinking about hiring somebody 1:09:44.000 --> 1:09:46.360 to help me run the website. Any interest, she smiles, 1:09:46.400 --> 1:09:49.040 maybe call me. As she walks away, Todd shouts, hey, 1:09:49.080 --> 1:09:51.560 don't forget your shirt and throws her the sweater. She 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:54.160 nervously laughs and stutters. While walking towards the door, She 1:09:54.320 --> 1:09:55.120 lets herself out. 1:09:55.320 --> 1:09:57.920 Audience loves that too, with the shirt thing. That gotta 1:09:57.920 --> 1:10:01.599 beat this whole dynamic of like her entry, this trio friends. Yeah, 1:10:01.640 --> 1:10:03.880 I want a little more specificity on like how you 1:10:04.000 --> 1:10:07.120 feel about her, Like obviously you're impressed with her work, Yeah, 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:09.120 but like I want I don't know, and like Wiseman 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:11.760 is into her, but yeah, I like that. 1:10:11.760 --> 1:10:16.200 You didn't objectify her too. Yeah right, yeah, yeah. We 1:10:16.280 --> 1:10:18.800 go to our final commercial break, which hasn't add for 1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:22.240 a Sprint flip phone. Yeah as well as Yes, I 1:10:22.360 --> 1:10:25.200 miss my flip phone too. They're coming back, I hear, 1:10:25.320 --> 1:10:25.600 are they? 1:10:26.000 --> 1:10:26.160 Well? 1:10:26.160 --> 1:10:28.280 I mean, Sabrina Carpenter has had one for a long 1:10:28.360 --> 1:10:30.559 time with her deal with some phone company, so I've 1:10:30.600 --> 1:10:32.759 seen that, but it seems like people like the retro 1:10:32.920 --> 1:10:33.080 of it. 1:10:33.479 --> 1:10:34.400 I'm not familiar with her. 1:10:34.760 --> 1:10:39.400 Okay, hot pockets and then also a podmet World sponsor Huggies. Yes, 1:10:41.280 --> 1:10:43.680 all right, so we're in the tag. Every sitcom has 1:10:43.720 --> 1:10:46.160 one of those. We're back in the apartment, big shock. 1:10:46.280 --> 1:10:48.960 Alex tells Todd, Hey, how'd you get her shirt? Todd 1:10:49.040 --> 1:10:52.639 nonchalantly reveals we were playing Strip Antiques road Show. Wiseman 1:10:52.720 --> 1:10:54.640 is impressed, just out of curiosity. How do you get 1:10:54.680 --> 1:10:57.519 that kind of thing off the ground? Alex is also interested. 1:10:57.720 --> 1:10:59.439 Wiseman and I put in all our effort to get 1:10:59.479 --> 1:11:01.680 real dates. We get dressed up, we spend money, you 1:11:01.760 --> 1:11:03.519 stay here, and you still do better than we did. 1:11:03.880 --> 1:11:06.759 Todd shrugs, I didn't even take a shower today. Alex 1:11:06.840 --> 1:11:09.080 shakes his head in disappointment as the three roommates drink 1:11:09.120 --> 1:11:12.000 beer in each Chinese takeout again better button. 1:11:13.040 --> 1:11:16.439 Yeah, but as a scene, that's a great describes all 1:11:16.479 --> 1:11:19.120 three characters where they're always going to go, We're back 1:11:19.120 --> 1:11:21.680 to normal next week, try and get dates again, I. 1:11:21.760 --> 1:11:24.120 Might argue again, too close to each other. 1:11:24.920 --> 1:11:25.400 Yeah, there is. 1:11:25.960 --> 1:11:28.559 I think they started to get different, starting to. 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:31.559 Go and got them all back together. A'se. Guys who 1:11:31.640 --> 1:11:37.599 just want love? Yeah, yeah, well that's random, you will writer. 1:11:38.560 --> 1:11:40.080 Should have been a show, should have been a show, 1:11:40.120 --> 1:11:42.200 I think so. It should have been rewritten. This pilot 1:11:42.200 --> 1:11:44.680 could have been punched up really quickly, kept all the 1:11:44.720 --> 1:11:48.120 same scenes, uh, same actors, because this cast is phenomenal. 1:11:48.160 --> 1:11:50.600 You guys are so good and like this should have 1:11:50.640 --> 1:11:52.320 been you know, this should have been the Air to Friends. 1:11:52.360 --> 1:11:54.080 I mean, and I know every network at this time 1:11:54.200 --> 1:11:56.120 was trying to find that right they were trying to 1:11:56.240 --> 1:11:58.920 find and none of them lasted, None of them worked. 1:11:59.320 --> 1:12:01.240 Big Bang Theory is the only show that you know, 1:12:01.280 --> 1:12:02.960 and then How I Met Your Mother? But those were 1:12:03.080 --> 1:12:05.120 they had different angles, they had different things going for 1:12:05.840 --> 1:12:07.880 just the like group of friends in New York or 1:12:08.040 --> 1:12:11.479 in a city hanging out together is a great format 1:12:11.600 --> 1:12:13.320 and this was this could have been great. Yeah. 1:12:13.360 --> 1:12:15.600 I think it had a lot of potential and I 1:12:15.680 --> 1:12:18.439 loved the cast. We got it so well right off 1:12:18.479 --> 1:12:20.240 the bat, and I think we could have done something 1:12:20.240 --> 1:12:20.800 pretty special. 1:12:21.320 --> 1:12:23.320 Well, the first two episodes are on YouTube. We will 1:12:23.360 --> 1:12:25.599 put the link in our description. We ask you guys 1:12:25.640 --> 1:12:27.880 go watch it. It's really fun. This is the last 1:12:27.920 --> 1:12:32.200 episode Danielle will be back luckily, so I beenough. Well, 1:12:32.479 --> 1:12:33.439 not familiar with her either. 1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:36.760 Okay, you've been great, Jensen, thank you, you've been great 1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:41.240 sitting in for Danielle. It's not not the same visual, I'll. 1:12:41.040 --> 1:12:43.320 Be honest, No, I'm not the same. She's so talented 1:12:43.400 --> 1:12:46.120 at this, she's so difficult. She poses so much show 1:12:46.120 --> 1:12:47.720 that both you guys were like, don't make us do 1:12:47.800 --> 1:12:49.200 it both, Yah, don't do it. 1:12:49.560 --> 1:12:51.800 Because we're lazy, not because she's better than us, right, 1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:53.599 I mean, let's be honest, what do we really think 1:12:53.600 --> 1:12:54.120 of Danielle? 1:12:54.439 --> 1:12:56.479 Okay, well, this is where I'll say. 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