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Speaker 3: Forget the song? You walk?

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Speaker 1: Too late?

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Speaker 2: Too late, everyone's away boat, don't build a bill pik

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Speaker 3: He be a than cute. You walk.

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Speaker 2: We're digging a moat. We're digging a moat and can't

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Speaker 1: Will they overthrow us?

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Speaker 1: were around. Good morning, sweet world. I can't even get

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the No Dogs podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 4: It's Thursday, January thirtieth, twenty twenty five. I'm James Skeiths

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Speaker 4: test Mellis.

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Speaker 3: Podcast listeners and YouTube viewers. You gotta see the birds

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Speaker 3: really appreciate this. One's free next to him.

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Speaker 1: It's the beard to one. I'm a tough shot boy,

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Speaker 1: Troy Kirbye, Hey yo, and over Yonder he's back from

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Speaker 1: Paris and he's back from the dead. It's super producer JD.

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Speaker 3: Hello, And what a way to come back? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: That was gold.

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Speaker 1: It somehow got funnier and funnier, funnier it as it

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Speaker 1: you haven't done so already. All right, lots to talk

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Speaker 1: about today's No Dunks pod. We'll play a little is

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Speaker 1: this news with some headlines from the last twenty four hours,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of games on last night, So let's

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Speaker 1: I think his stories or whatever you want to touch

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Speaker 3: I'm taking the Golden State Warriors beating the Oklahoma City

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Speaker 3: They're up double digits in the first half. But then

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Speaker 3: But just look at what this Golden State Warriors team

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Speaker 6: They showed up for the win in this game. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 6: You don't expect that against the Thunder team that forces

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Speaker 6: Didn't work last night eighteen for twenty one on a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Looney, I'm glad you slipped him in there, like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they helped produce a good version of our

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Speaker 3: series NBA Conspiracies, NBA conspiracies because the Warriors called the

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Speaker 3: this is just me. It's totally an NBA conspiracy. This

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Speaker 3: Then they called Jimmy Butler's agent and they said, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: To keep the most because of this importance to ye,

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Speaker 6: It's Jalen Brunson and the Knicks smoking the Nuggets in MSG.

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Speaker 6: Jalen Brunson great in this game. Thirty points and fifteen assists. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: So Brunson just had seven assists in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 6: They had no answer for him, basically at point of attack.

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Speaker 6: He was in the lane the entire night. The Knicks

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Speaker 6: Terrible effort on defense. Back to back games. They got

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Speaker 6: And that was Jokic's defense all night. He obviously subbed

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Speaker 6: He missed back to back threes. Percentage wise, that shouldn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean they are giving up a ton

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Speaker 3: With this, Yeah, they probably could have got spanked by

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Speaker 3: forty points in this game if Jomal Murray didn't have

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Speaker 3: But also yeah, he just was not into it. As

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Speaker 3: getting into it very easily and We know Jokic is

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Speaker 3: you kind of favor or go with. Because the Knicks

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Speaker 3: have been rolling one hundred and forty three, one hundred

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Speaker 3: twenty two in their last three games. That's monstrous. So

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Speaker 3: I heard somebody say that's their highest total in three

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to look that up because that just,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't really all that matter all that much,

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Speaker 1: All Right, let's keep it going here. I got the

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Speaker 1: here in a second. But these guys were awesome, especially Seacam.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, was he cooking in this game. He

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Speaker 1: He dunkd one. He was just attacking as he does

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Speaker 1: the first half, both of them lights out. And here

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Speaker 1: the Pacers are man. They started this season ten and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Since then, they've looked a lot more like the Eastern

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Speaker 1: Conference finalists from last year. They've won sixteen to twenty one.

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Speaker 1: They've won ten of twelve. In January, they're now twenty

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Speaker 1: Bucks who have the four seeds. So as it's been

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Speaker 1: But let's get to what everybody's talking about from this game.

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Speaker 1: Early in the second quarter, aaron Ne Smith, he pulled

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Speaker 1: the palace. But I guess we'll just see if he gets,

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Speaker 1: you know, a suspension for how this all went down

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Speaker 1: because of his history, which would come into play here.

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Speaker 1: This is the second time I believe he's been injected

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Speaker 1: this season with the flagrant two foul, the one he

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Speaker 1: and that got him out. But he's had other ones

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Speaker 5: Drew you Banks in the face before a game.

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Speaker 1: That was last year, That's right, that got him a

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Speaker 1: this guy, get him a temper boy shirt. I mean

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Speaker 6: Get him a new sport. This guy should be a

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Speaker 6: football player. Yeah, he's got like a boxing background as well.

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Speaker 6: He's on a Royal rumble thumbnail for this very show.

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Speaker 6: That was not basketball what Isaiah Stewart was doing. It

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Speaker 6: was funny when he told Miles Turner, you play with legos.

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Speaker 3: That was funny.

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Speaker 5: Got to a beef like last week, that was funny.

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Speaker 3: This is not funny.

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Speaker 6: So he's going to get suspended because of the history,

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Speaker 6: because of the hit he did, and then because he

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Speaker 6: three things stacked against you. So he's sitting for at

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Speaker 1: Probably okay, but do you think he'll get a game

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Speaker 3: Yes, the gun I throw it in air quotes because

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Speaker 3: that yeah, yeah, extremely physical. I mean look and look

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Speaker 1: They were beefing throughout this game. You know, beefs too, Okay,

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Speaker 5: After all, tensions were stewing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tensions are stilling between Tom's probably like there was

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Speaker 1: It was just like it was a little odd just

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Speaker 1: he seems like okay, the referee sort of like, okay,

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Speaker 1: where you go, you do that stuff and you're going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it fits the definition of a beef ste

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Speaker 3: it was stewing for for the first quarter and then

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Speaker 3: it just continued on. So yeah, that's Isaiah story. Baby.

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Speaker 3: Quick note on Pascal Sam Yeah, dropping thirty seven.

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Speaker 5: Made us look good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for set, Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is it too late for the coaches to see they probably.

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Speaker 1: He'll be there because you said it, there's not many

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Speaker 1: frontcore players to pick from Mobley's lock, and then it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Jalen Brown is a forward, so maybe there too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got them right. I feel confident we got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they'll be there. There are coaches who

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what it's like, Halliburton was really

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Speaker 1: It has become a little bit more of like sort

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Speaker 1: of the best Siakama I've seen. We saw a lot

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Speaker 1: of Raptorsakam and he was good. He got better and

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Speaker 1: better and better. But holy crap, that game last night.

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Speaker 1: He was cooking Jalen Duran. It was like a joke.

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Speaker 1: Putting him on him too fast and then got cocaid

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Speaker 1: You had to go at him, no chance. You got

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Speaker 1: Buckner on the call, Like I love Whenam gets matched

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Speaker 6: best chance, But there was really no answer for the

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00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 6: Pistons last night.

432
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,879
Speaker 5: I did like the.

433
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,200
Speaker 6: The stewing tensions, and this one it was cool, Like

434
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,120
Speaker 6: you had Halliburton and Malik Beasley where John at each

435
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 6: other and Haliburn hits a three at the end of

436
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,919
Speaker 6: the third quarter, he did the Milik Beasley shimmy.

437
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 5: They look crazy, man, Well yeah, it looks. It looks

438
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 5: a little stylish.

439
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,680
Speaker 6: I feel like when Malik Beasley does it like he's

440
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,159
Speaker 6: an act answer and Halliburton looked like he got electric kid.

441
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,360
Speaker 5: It was cool.

442
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, they can't play each other in the playoffs, like

443
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 6: it's pretty unlikely likely just where the matchups are gonna go.

444
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 6: But they've played some games where you can tell they

445
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 6: don't like each other.

446
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 3: So fun. Yeah, Pacers lining up with the Bucks again.

447
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 3: It is looking more and more like oh yeah, yeah,

448
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 3: right right, they did not like each other either, No,

449
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 3: for sure.

450
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's do another round of drafting last night's

451
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,959
Speaker 1: best games. Fourth pick overall goes to task here.

452
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 3: I am taking the Los Angeles Clippers and Kawhi Leonard

453
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,879
Speaker 3: beating his old team, the San Antonio Spurs. Going to

454
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 3: San Antonio. You heard it in the introductions. They really

455
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 3: gave it to Kawhi Leondard. Then he came out there

456
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 3: and he was guarding Chris Paul immediately, who had a

457
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 3: very quiet game, because Kawhi looked great on that side.

458
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: And then the scoring was happening. He was going great,

459
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 3: and my man law Murray was breaking it down on

460
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 3: the athletic and I mean, this is Kawhi. He was

461
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 3: just so mechanical. In his seven second quarter minutes, the

462
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 3: Clippers outscored the Spurs by fourteen. Kawhi was doing it

463
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 3: with assists. He had beautiful assists, three sweet assists, once

464
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 3: Kevin Porter Junior underneath three of his season high seven assists,

465
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 3: and then mid range Kawhi took over. This was It

466
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 3: was fun to watch this. This what you speak of rappings.

467
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: Watching the basketball last night.

468
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm sure wonder James Borebath is in the

469
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 5: strange Yeah.

470
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 3: And I'm sure Spurs fans were also having flashbacks to

471
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: their Spurs days. He was seven of eleven in his

472
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: mid range shots, one over Wemby, which was a fade

473
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: at the baseline as Wemby had his hand up. But

474
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 3: Kawhi still has ups. He does even though he gets injured,

475
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 3: he still has ups. And he played over his minutes

476
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 3: restriction in this game. And Ty Lou put him back

477
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: in with three minutes left in this game. This is

478
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 3: his second fourth quarter, oh maybe of the game of

479
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 3: the season next seuse me, and he helped lead a

480
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 3: thirteen zero run in the fourth quarter. He looked great

481
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 3: season highs twenty seven points, twenty eight minutes, and thirty

482
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 3: nine seconds also a season high. And the starters just

483
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 3: looked really good together because you know, Kawhi is just

484
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 3: a part of that unit. They outscored the Spurs by

485
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 3: nine when they're out there, four Clippers scored over twenty points. Yeah,

486
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: that is teamwork. And it was led by Vitza Zubots

487
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 3: twenty one points and twenty two rebounds. It is a

488
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: lot of beef from the Clippers. They out rebounded the

489
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 3: Spurs fifty seven to thirty. I'm not sure how that happened.

490
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: And Zubots was frustrating Victor Weman Yeah is a bully.

491
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he like basically apologized even after the Game's like, okay,

492
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: maybe that was a little too much when table shoved

493
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 1: him in the back there. But Wemby frustrated all night.

494
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: Wemby's like this frustration has been building, the way he's

495
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: being called not getting calls.

496
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 5: I saw it.

497
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: Even in the Paris Games. There was a couple instances

498
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: where you could see like, does you know you got

499
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: to you sort of have to test them and still

500
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,959
Speaker 1: sort of one advantage these other NBA guys have on them,

501
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: right in some cases just size and sort of the

502
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: physicality you're gonna you're gonna test him, push him a

503
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: little bit, and it's starting to you can tell he's

504
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: like he's starting to get tired of it and can't

505
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: blame him.

506
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 6: Well yeah, and I mean literally, that's gonna be the

507
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 6: game plan until he bulks up. That was the game

508
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 6: plan with Yannis until he bulked up. And now nobody

509
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 6: pushes Gianis around, right, But right now Zubots has what

510
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 6: sixty pounds probably Wenby there were times where he had

511
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 6: him folded over in half.

512
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, pushing them around. So Zubots is like that though.

513
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 6: He's a big, huge dude and he's got skills, so

514
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 6: like twenty points and it ain't nothing for Zoo. He

515
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 6: was really really good. Thing I hate about kwhis he

516
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 6: doesn't play. Thing I love about Kwai is that when

517
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 6: he plays, he's one hundred, Like he is one of

518
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 6: the best players on the court as soon as he's healthy.

519
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 6: It feels like he never has a drop off, Like

520
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 6: I'm sure it's because he waits until his body feels

521
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 6: perfect before he's actually gonna play.

522
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 5: But when he plays, he's a top five player out

523
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 5: there on both ends of the court.

524
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 6: So yeah, I want to buy it on the clippe,

525
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 6: you know, I want his kates, but I ain't gonna

526
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 6: do it.

527
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna do it.

528
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 6: We'll see what happens come playoff time. As for the Spurs,

529
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 6: they are in twelfth.

530
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 5: Place right now.

531
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're two to eight in their last ten. Maybe

532
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 6: not an ideal time to push in everything for like

533
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 6: the eighth best guard in the league.

534
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Yep, especially if you want to, like maybe you like

535
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: your chances of even in free agency down the line,

536
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: getting that player a lot can change obviously amidst up.

537
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 1: But yet maybe it changes the equation a little bit.

538
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: I guess the counter to that is, like, you know,

539
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: as we've talked about, like you do have Leebama, this

540
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: guy looks like, well, he's already one of the best

541
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: players in the league. Whatever top twenty, top fifteen, top ten,

542
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: wherever you want to put him won't belong until he's

543
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: top five, top three, and like you get go on,

544
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: like you speed up, sort of the transition to like

545
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: getting real talent around. That's the counter to it, of course.

546
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

547
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: But the Spurs like to play it slow like a

548
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 3: stew They play like a crack pot.

549
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: All right, right, yeah, you guys use the crock pot

550
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: at home often very yeah. Yeah, you do good good.

551
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 5: Every other week.

552
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 6: I would say, for you chili, you might put it

553
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 6: like a salsa verde chicken in there. You love to

554
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 6: make a pulled pork.

555
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: I haven't made it in a long bring it back.

556
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: You should bring it back for the rumble this weekend.

557
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 3: You love eggs. You can make eggs in a crock pot.

558
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 5: Excuse me, Yeah, I don't know what.

559
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: I went to a different pots.

560
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 5: Well, I'm just wondering what you're like. I want eggs

561
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 5: in twelve hours.

562
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: It doesn't take that long. It does not take that

563
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: But you're.

564
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: Talking about you're not talking about a crockpot, right.

565
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can crock it, sorry pot.

566
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 3: And we're talking to eggs specifically, opposite of a crockpot. Yeah, yeah,

567
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 3: we're talking to specific bet. I'm not a coch I

568
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: watched Danielle ning it at sure. Yes, the insta pot

569
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: so many names out there pots, yes, but anyways, I

570
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 3: think we made it. It was a it was a

571
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: late night It was a midnight egg from an you

572
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: were there. Oh really yeah, yeah, yeah, mid night. It's

573
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: very weird to see eggs going in, but they were delicious.

574
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: My man Jared Dent really enjoyed it. Damn good this week,

575
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: all right.

576
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: T K, let's get the fifth pick. Overall, still lots

577
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: left to pick from.

578
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 5: We at the games last night.

579
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 6: I'm going with Tyrese Maxi and my seventy six ers

580
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 6: beating the Kings for their.

581
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: Fourth straight wins. Your seventy sixers, all Bolls.

582
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 6: Fans were seventy six ers fans, right, Okay? Four straight

583
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 6: wins for my seventy six ers after seven straight losses.

584
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 6: They beat the Nuggets, they beat the Bulls, yeah they did.

585
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 6: They beat the Lakers and then they beat the Here

586
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 6: Last night the Bulls destroyed by the Celtics, So a

587
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 6: virtual tie for tenth place.

588
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 5: In the Eastern Conference.

589
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 6: Right now, I think the Bulls are technically ahead based

590
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 6: on win percentage, but only time will tell. Tyres Maxie,

591
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 6: though continues the heater he's been on lately. Thirty points

592
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 6: in this one for rebounds, eight assists. That comes after

593
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 6: forty three against the Lakers, thirty one to nine against

594
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 6: the Bulls, twenty nine and seven against the Cavs, twelve

595
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 6: straight games for Maxi with twenty five or more points.

596
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 6: I saw John Hollinger had him as an All Star

597
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 6: in his reserves last year.

598
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 5: His name maybe got.

599
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 6: Brought up by us yesterday brought it got like a

600
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 6: toss of a mention here. But he should at least

601
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 6: be in the mix. I think with all these guards,

602
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 6: who could be the last guy chosen like a Trey

603
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 6: Young or a zach Lavian. Teams that are in the

604
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 6: double digit seating range, but the guards are playing really,

605
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 6: really well.

606
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 5: Harden's gone and Beat has been out.

607
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 6: Paul George isn't playing right now, diminished when he has

608
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 6: been so a different role for Tyrese Maxi. He started

609
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 6: really slow this year. He's up to a career high

610
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 6: usage and he's playing really well. And I think part

611
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 6: of it is that Eric Gordon is hooping right now.

612
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 6: Caleb Martin went down with an injury, Eric Gordon steps

613
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 6: into the starting lineup. He's shooting forty nine percent from

614
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 6: three in January. They need shooting on the court, and

615
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 6: this is what Daryl Morey I'm sure was hoping would

616
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 6: come when he signed Eric Gordon.

617
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 5: Three for four last night.

618
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 6: He's had three or more threes in the last five

619
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 6: games for the seventy six ers.

620
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 5: So they probably don't want to be winning these games.

621
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 5: Or maybe they do. I don't know.

622
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It's so weird say they.

623
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 5: Do, Like it's impossible.

624
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 6: I think they're pick his top six protected to the

625
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 6: thunder this year. It's tough for them to get into

626
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 6: the top six unless they hit it in the lottery.

627
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 6: They're not gonna be able to win or lose that

628
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 6: many games. So I guess it makes more sense to

629
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 6: try and win, which is what they're doing. Yeah, and

630
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 6: they're winning right now because Max he's playing pretty well.

631
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Eric Gordon. By the way, have you seen the

632
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: graphic going around his stats prior to his wisdom teeth

633
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: being removed and his stats since he missed a game

634
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: or two because of that. Yeah, he's feeling better absolutely teeth. Yeah,

635
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's great. I mean it's we're talking Eric

636
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: Gordon here. But the three point percentage. The scoring it's

637
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: ticked up since the wisdom teeth removal, and I mean,

638
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: Maxie is the real reason they're winning a lot of

639
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: these games. And Tom Zillard also included Maxi on his

640
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: All Star team. Okay, so it's possible. I mean we

641
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: sort of were like, well, there's like, yeah, Zach Lavie,

642
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: bad Bulls team. Unfortunately for Maxi, bad Sixers team, Trey

643
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: jung on, Oh my god, a bad Hawks team. It's

644
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: like we sort of were like, no, no, no, no, no.

645
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: We lean more towards the Lillards, you know, the Caid's,

646
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: the Tyler Heroes, because a little bit more team successful.

647
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: We'll see tonight at six thirty pm.

648
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Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, maybe he might, excuse me, join one of

649
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Speaker 3: those Eastern Conference cards that's scoring a ton. He's averaging

650
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Speaker 3: twenty seven points per game, like Lamello or Trey. That

651
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: may not make the team. I should say Trey. Trey

652
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: is far lower than Lamello and an Tyers Maxie. That

653
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: being said, it was a lot of the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the season that set him back a little bit, just

655
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Speaker 3: because there was so much on his shoulders with no

656
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: Embiid and no Paul George and he was taking three

657
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: after three after three, and the threes just were not falling. He's,

658
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: you know, come back to who he is somewhat. The

659
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: numbers aren't there quite so much. But Eric Horden's helping

660
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: out a guy who's averaging six point nine points per

661
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Speaker 3: game this season.

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Speaker 5: But that's pre teeth.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I need the splits wisdom teeth, no wisdom teeth

664
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Speaker 6: on there. The thing with Maxie is he's a better

665
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 6: off ball player than he is an on ball player,

666
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 6: which play had such great success when it was Harden

667
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Speaker 6: and Embiid running the pick and roll or Embiid actually

668
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Speaker 6: being out there. But just like Jaron Jackson Junior with

669
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Speaker 6: the Grizzlies this year, like the Grizzlies had a bad

670
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 6: season last year. But the good thing is that Jaron

671
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 6: Jackson Junior got into his bag became a go to scorer.

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Speaker 5: That's going to be the benefit for the Sixers is

673
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 5: that this is a down year for them.

674
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Speaker 6: Maybe they'll make a run into the play in tournament,

675
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Speaker 6: even get into the playoffs, but that wasn't the goal

676
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 6: at the start of the season. But Maxi looks more

677
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 6: like he'll be able to handle primary creation role then

678
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 6: he did at the start of the season, So good

679
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 6: stuff for them, Go Sixers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the weird thing is they're not far off from

681
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Speaker 3: where they were last year, finishing seventh and getting into

682
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Speaker 3: the playoffs. But they're also not far from sixth, which

683
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: is really really strange to say that they're only four

684
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: games back of both six and seventh because they're actually tied.

685
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Speaker 3: So that is the goal here. Every time they're hurt,

686
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Speaker 3: we have to get into the playoffs. Let's turn it

687
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Speaker 3: up a little bit, and it is turning up.

688
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Speaker 5: My last note on this one.

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Speaker 6: I usually don't complain about jerseys that teams are wearing,

690
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Speaker 6: whether they're wearing color or home white, I don't care.

691
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 5: The game has changed.

692
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Speaker 6: But last night the Kings were wearing their Kansas City

693
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Speaker 6: Royals jerseys and the Sixers were wearing their Spectrum jerseys,

694
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Speaker 6: so it looked like they were playing an intrasquad scrimmage

695
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 6: because it was like red, white and blue uniforms on

696
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Speaker 6: both sides. Right, I don't like it when it's that. Well,

697
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Speaker 6: you shouldn't. If you're the road team, you should not

698
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Speaker 6: wear the same color as the home team's floor. Okay,

699
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Speaker 6: that's the only fair that's my only regulation.

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Speaker 5: Regards to jerseys.

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Speaker 3: That's weird. It is weird, all right.

702
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Speaker 1: I have the final pick here. Sort of went back

703
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: and forth between two games. I was gonna go with

704
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: a very entertaining Mavericks Pelicans game, high scoring PJ Washington

705
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: on fire, you know, Zion doing some things. But I'm

706
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: going to leave that one, you know, on the cunning

707
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Speaker 1: room floor, and I'm going to take for my number

708
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: six pick Anthony Edwards scoring thirty three points and the

709
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: Wolves beating the Suns one twenty one, one thirteen, their

710
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: fourth straight win from Minnesota. Timberwolves own the Suns right now.

711
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: There's sort of no other way to put it. Like

712
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: they swept them out of the playoffs last year when

713
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: they took all four, and then now they're two to

714
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: zero against them this year. Now, I know what was

715
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Speaker 1: weird about all this was the Suns had it lost

716
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: against the Wolves in the regular season last year. But

717
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: that's six straight now. Mini did a good job getting

718
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: back in this game. They trailed for a good chunk

719
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Speaker 1: of the game. They rallied at the end of the

720
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Speaker 1: third quarter and then good old Canadian boy Nikhil Alexander

721
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: Walker made three three pointers early in the fourth quarter,

722
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: pushed that lead back to ten. He had an awesome game,

723
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Speaker 1: and this is a game there's no Nasrit, there's no Devincenzo,

724
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Speaker 1: so he had to really give them something from the bench,

725
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Speaker 1: and he did. Twenty three points. He made five of

726
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: ten from behind the arc, and the Wolves offense it's

727
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: become a little more unlocked here in the New Years,

728
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Speaker 1: you know, jumped into the top ten there at least

729
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: when you're looking at the month of January. They shot

730
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Speaker 1: fifty six percent from the field, forty five percent if

731
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: you want to round up from three. Last night, got stopped,

732
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: pushed the temple a lot of fast break points. This

733
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: was good, good Wolves game. Not good for the Suns,

734
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: of course, but it was just nice to see that

735
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: they're there. You know, they're starting to, like remind everybody,

736
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: don't forget about us too. We went and deep into

737
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Speaker 1: the postseason last year and we're still here. We're figuring

738
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Speaker 1: some things out.

739
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Speaker 5: That was a good win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as you said, they have found there who they

741
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: are a little bit with pushing the pace, the guards

742
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: helping out like nikail Aasanderwalker, also Rob Dillingham getting more

743
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: regular minutes has definitely helped, but to do it without

744
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: Nasri who was always contributing and Dante did Vincenzo helped

745
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: out by guys like Yeah Dillingham, Jalen Clark, Jalen Clark

746
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: getting his first rotation minutes new Jalen just dropped.

747
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right. Defensive Jaalen, Yeah, with.

748
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 5: That was Jalen Wells.

749
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Speaker 1: He is well. This guy's good too, though, fark and

750
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: wild legit, he's a bit of a dog defensively nice,

751
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: that's right. We also had Chris Finch getting ejected in this.

752
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: Game first time, first time for Finchy, for Finchy.

753
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 5: Big momentum ejection.

754
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Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, yeah, squad yeah, and had to run

755
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: in like ah, it was like one of these like

756
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: he argued both times to get both technical calls and

757
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: then that's why he got tossed. But second one he

758
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: was not happy with, and Yeah rushed in bull rushed

759
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: in to hold him back. And then Jada McDaniels got

760
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Speaker 1: tossed right at the end of the game for like

761
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Speaker 1: poking Devin Booker in like the head.

762
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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: A lot of guys go on Devin Booker. There is

764
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: no doubt it was a weird one game was over.

765
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: It was it was done like twenty third seconds left,

766
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: and it was sort of a weird play where they

767
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: just started chirping, I guess, and McDaniels just goes some

768
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: bokes of him that got him tossed.

769
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Speaker 5: But they got the victory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jane McDaniels is key to also unlocking who they are.

771
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: He looks more like himself. The numbers are exactly like

772
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Speaker 3: they were last year. He's scoring double digits and every

773
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: single game is last seven. You know, that's more. That's

774
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: more Jane McDaniels.

775
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Speaker 5: Like, they're just such a streaky team.

776
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 6: And I think it's because they're all outside of Ant,

777
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 6: Like Ant's the best three points shooter in the league

778
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 6: this year for whatever reason.

779
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 5: Everybody else is just so so streaky.

780
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Speaker 6: So they have a lot of you go and look

781
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 6: at their schedule on Basketball Reference, it's like three game

782
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 6: win streak, three game blue streak, three game win streak,

783
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 6: two game win streak. It's like, yeah, we're if you're

784
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 6: playing well, you're playing well, and then it falls off.

785
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 6: You're like, uh, what are we gonna do? So if

786
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 6: they get hot at the right time, I think the

787
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 6: Timberwolves are still you know, conference finals contenders at the

788
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 6: very least if they get the right matchups and they

789
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Speaker 6: shoot well in the playoffs.

790
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Speaker 1: So what do we leave on the board. The Nets

791
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: beat the Hornets handedly. The Raptors won again, of course,

792
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: just crush the Wizards. Cleveland went into Miami, they took

793
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: care of business. Uh, and then the Dallas Pelicans game,

794
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: like we said, and then the Celtics beating the Chicago

795
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: Bulls by day game. He had an interesting quote, didn't

796
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: he after the game? You see something what he said.

797
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 6: He's like, sometimes they take away your three pointers, so

798
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 6: I gotta go get my baskets with the meat. Yeah,

799
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 6: he kept he kept thinking about it during his press conference,

800
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 6: so like he answered a couple questions and he's like,

801
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 6: I'm still thinking about that. Not every say, not every

802
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 6: Latvian saying translates perfectly.

803
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, he said, I had to use my bulk to

804
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 5: go in there. Score. He had a great game.

805
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 6: And you know, any NBA GM's out there, do me

806
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 6: a favor and don't look at Nicola Vuzovitch's three point

807
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 6: shooting splits. I'm just saying, I mean, it looks good

808
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 6: for a year long sample right now, you're.

809
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 5: Like, oh, hey man, this guy's on fire.

810
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 6: Don't even you don't need to check the splits, no reason, no, no, no,

811
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 6: he's doing good in January.

812
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: What did you think of to circle back to the Warriors?

813
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: Obviously getting the victory there? Name coming up yesterday with

814
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: the Warriors. Maybe hey, we're maybe interested in Zach Levine

815
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: even more than Jimmy Butler.

816
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 6: Safer option, safer option, as they put it, Yeah, Zach

817
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 6: Lavine is a guaranteed bucket. I think they should trade

818
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 6: for Vooch and Levine. Okay, that works, they worked together.

819
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 6: I think the most encouraging thing from a Bulls trade

820
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 6: perspective is that Quentin Post got to start for the

821
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 6: Warriors last night and was bad. He got pulled at

822
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 6: for eight minutes, didn't play in the second half, didn't

823
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 6: make a shot. The Warriors saw what Quentin Post could

824
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 6: do as a stretch five next to Curry, a player

825
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 6: type that he's never really played for. But he's still

826
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 6: a rookie, you know, a second round draft pick. So

827
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 6: two time all starting to call it Loza bitch. Obviously

828
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 6: a more reliable player.

829
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 5: They got to bring him in. Don't turn this slits.

830
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 5: They're good. They're good. Yeah, a little nice.

831
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: All right, let's go from drafting games to a little

832
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Speaker 1: is this news? A few headlines for you gentlemen, debate

833
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: whether or not they're newsworthy, and we can break them down.

834
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: First one from Champs yesterday, Jalen Johnson to undergo season

835
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: ending surgery to repair shoulder injury. This broke during yesterday's show.

836
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: Our guy Esh jumping in there to give us the

837
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: unfortunate news. But yeah, what do you think and maybe

838
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: the impact this has on what the Hawks do or

839
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: don't hear at the trade deadline?

840
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: Well, I will say, of course this is news, and

841
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: it's gonna get worse for the Atlanta Hawks record wise,

842
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: there's no doubt. There are four and seven in the

843
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: eleven games he's missed. But it was worse last year.

844
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: As I keep saying, I do believe in this Atlanta

845
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: Hawks team win. Jala Johnson plays. Last year, he missed

846
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: those fourteen games after a good start. There four and

847
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: ten in those games and they just couldn't recover and

848
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: then they ended thirty six and forty six. He missed

849
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: a good chunk of games. This was his best year.

850
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: Of course, this is a bummer, and he just returned

851
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: from right shoulder inflammation. Then he injures the left one.

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00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: And we have the clip here. I mean I watched

853
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: it like a million times. It's just one of those

854
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: really weird injuries where it's like you almost don't even

855
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: see how it happened. Obviously, his hand gets sort of

856
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: locked up with Scottie Barnes going for the shot, but

857
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: it's like wow, instantaneously and went to the back. Didn't

858
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: return to that game and then obviously not going to

859
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: miss our season.

860
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you almost think it's more of his right shouter

861
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: that gets impacted by Scotty Barnes. It is weird, but

862
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: he is so involved with this team. We all think

863
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: about Trey Young's team, but this guy is third in

864
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: the NBA and passes. He passes the ball more per

865
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: game than Tray Young, which is really weird. It goes Jokich,

866
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: Haliburton and Jalen Johnson. He touches the ball a lot

867
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: and makes a lot of passes, and he's just a

868
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: huge part of this game. If you look at the

869
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: on off numbers, it's bad.

870
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: With without him.

871
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, with treyon without Jalen Johnson, they've got basically the

872
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: twenty eighth best offensive rating. They're being outscored by eight

873
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: and a half possessions or eight and a half points

874
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: per possession. Excuse me, per hundred possessions. I should say, geez,

875
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: louis bad everybody, Yeah, of course, I just I don't

876
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: like saying that's that's stat points.

877
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 6: That's I hate abbreviating it in my notes.

878
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 5: What do you do pp one.

879
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: Hundred yeah, fast, peep yeah. And that's why. And that's

880
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: why I said it awfully because I didn't put in

881
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: my notes properly. It just as pus period a little bit.

882
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: I have this the Hawks had one hundred and fifteen

883
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: point zero offensive rating with Tray and Jalen big Johnson

884
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: on the floor together, that's a top ten rate. Take

885
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: him out non Johnson minutes one oh four point one,

886
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: that would rank as the league's worst offense. He is

887
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: a difference maker, and it makes sense, right, little secondary

888
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: playmaking secondary score. Obviously a hustle guy up and down,

889
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: and you take that out of the lineup and there's

890
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: a big fall off. So this this sucks now. Atlanta

891
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: owes an unprotected first round pick to San Antonio from

892
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: the de Jonte Murray trade in twenty twenty two. Yeah,

893
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: so it's not like they can be like, well, hey,

894
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: we'll lean into the tank, fire up the tank, let's go.

895
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: It's like, Nope, that's not really an option. That's not

896
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: an option at all. Yeah, they would lose the eleventh

897
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: pick right now. Sacramento also owes the Hawks a pick

898
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: from the Kevin Herder trade, but it's top twelve protected

899
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: and right now the Kings are twelve, so the Hawks

900
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: would not get that pick. The Kings also might be

901
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: trading an All star and de Aaron Fox. I think

902
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: this is good news if you're in the San Antonio Spurs.

903
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: The Spurs have a five percent chance of getting the

904
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: number one draft pick this year because they got I

905
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: got three percent from the Hawks, two percent of their own.

906
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: The Spurs could end up with the top two picks

907
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: this year.

908
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 5: Can you imagine that? Can't you imagine that Cooper Flag

909
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 5: could be playing with wemby next year. There's a chance.

910
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 6: So I'm wondering what the Hawks are gonna do here,

911
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 6: because they don't want to give away a pick this good.

912
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 5: If they hit the lottery, it's gone.

913
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 6: They would let they were in they were in a

914
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 6: rumor for Vouch. The Bulls turned it down. They said,

915
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 6: we don't want Capella. Capella's expiring twenty two million, Larry

916
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 6: Nance is expiring eleven million. They're both kind of still

917
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 6: in the rotation for the Hawks.

918
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 5: Larry Nance starts.

919
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 6: Sometimes, but that's like thirty three million dollars worth of contract.

920
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 6: They need to get a wing because I assume recently

921
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 6: say we'll start now that he's healthy again. Maybe they

922
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 6: got to start DeAndre Hunter now at this point, just

923
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 6: because he's been playing well and they need somebody on

924
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 6: the wing there. But you look at the guys who

925
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 6: might be available, it's like Julius Randall, Chris Middleton, Jeremy Grant.

926
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 6: I kind of think the Hawks are gonna want to

927
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 6: have help here because there's no reason to go the

928
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 6: other way. M hm.

929
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 5: And none of those names are very exciting, but they're

930
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 5: out there, guys out there.

931
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: People asking me on Twitter yesterday could the Hawks make

932
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,959
Speaker 1: a move for Jimmy Butler, And I was like, I mean, yeah,

933
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: I understand the reasoning, like to try and keep you

934
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: in the mix, but like what is coming back? Like

935
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: put it together. It's like Capella's expiring Bogdanovich. I mean

936
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: maybe it's exactly a hunter hunter the way he's playing

937
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: like Kobe Buffkin as a piece he's injured. I mean, yeah,

938
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: and like it's it's I don't think that's happening, is

939
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: my point.

940
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 3: No, I do not. I think the Hawks would rather

941
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: slow play it with all their young guys in Receschet

942
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: and Jalen Johnson and Dyson Daniels to try and go

943
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: and get Jimmy doesn't make sense to me. I look back,

944
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: because I did. I did figure that through the Dejonte

945
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: Murray trade to the New Orleans Pelicans that those two

946
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 3: draft picks that they got back were some some equivalent

947
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 3: to what they gave to the San Antonio Spurs for

948
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: de Jontay Murray the first time. But the picks are

949
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: the Lakers pick this year, which isn't going to be

950
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: all that great, and it's the Pelicans pick in twenty seven,

951
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: which could be good. But yes, but it's not. Can

952
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: to help you out, No, it is not. The Spurs

953
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: have those two picks, as Trey said, they could have

954
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: the top two this year, would it? Would they let

955
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag drop to number two in that King Oh

956
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 3: pay him less.

957
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: Like that.

958
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to our next headline here. Unfortunately,

959
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: it's about another injury. Yeah who sports Anthony Davis to

960
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: miss week after after suffering abdominal strain. Lakers said eighty

961
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: underwent the MRI there on Wednesday. Is gonna be reevaluated

962
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: in approximately one week, So he's gonna miss the next

963
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: three games of the Lakers road trip. They got the Wizards,

964
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: they got the Knicks and the Clippers, though, so two

965
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: tough games there. He had been playing his best ball

966
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: TK recently, like he was on a heater. During that

967
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: little win streak they had. He was averaging like thirty

968
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: three and fifteen, shooting lights out, blocking shots. But is

969
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: this news eighty at least gonna miss a week, maybe

970
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more.

971
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 6: I'll say minor news. If it's only a week or

972
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 6: just a little bit, I think the Lakers can survive.

973
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 6: They play at the Wizards, at the Knicks, at the Clippers,

974
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 6: than their home for the Warriors and home through the Pacers.

975
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 6: That takes them through next weekend. You beat the Wizards,

976
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 6: you beat the Warriors, take your chances in the other

977
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 6: three five hundred, Your love and life right there. The

978
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 6: Lakers defense has been better. It's been mostly against poor teams,

979
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 6: but they got a couple of those coming up on

980
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 6: the schedule here. We'll see how they hold up without

981
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 6: their defensive backbone. But they look a little bit more

982
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 6: physical right now. I've got more size on the court

983
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 6: now that Dorian Finney Smith is playing some big minutes

984
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 6: for him. So yeah, as long as Ady the reevaluation

985
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 6: comes back good. It sucks and it maybe hurts his

986
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 6: All Star chances, but I think he'll still get named.

987
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 6: Maybe they replace him, but I think the Lakers can survive.

988
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is minor news. It's news for me

989
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: to remind people that Anthony Davis plays a lot of

990
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: games these days. He only missed six last season, had

991
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 3: missed only three this season up until now, so he's

992
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: going to match that six, I'm sure. But as you said,

993
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: they continue this six game road trip and Washington not

994
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: a problem. They should handle that. But then they get

995
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: the Knicks and the Clippers, which is obviously tough. They

996
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: go into that into it Dome one more time to

997
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: play them, and yes they have been playing better defensively.

998
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: They got Vandy back as well to play sometime when

999
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: he can play sometime. We'll probably see some more Christian

1000
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 3: Colloco minutes for them, but he's got to get back.

1001
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: He's got to play, and that's I guess why he

1002
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: keeps requesting a center to play beside him, because it

1003
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: helps him. It just eases his role a little bit.

1004
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 1: This is very newsworthy to me. If I'm Elprince sheng Gun,

1005
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: maybe Sibonis, potentially Jaron Jackson. Junior All Star Weekend is

1006
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: two weeks away this Sunday. We think Ad will be

1007
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: named tonight to the actual roster, but you know, how

1008
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: banged up is he going to be. They're gonna want

1009
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: to like test that in an All Star game. Probably

1010
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: not so if they do add an injury replacement, one

1011
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: of those guys could be helped out their chances if

1012
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: they don't get at it tonight. And we felt like

1013
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: not all three of them are probably gonna get named.

1014
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna be left out, but maybe that helps their

1015
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: chances to be the replacement. So I guess they'll take it.

1016
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: And I sort of said that on yesterday show. I

1017
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: almost felt bad. I was like, I don't think there

1018
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: was anything serious, but you know, if AD's injured, it

1019
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: opens up another spot and then the MRI showed it

1020
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: was severe enough. Next headline, This one's interesting from Sports

1021
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: Business Journal. Caitlyn Clark disinclined to compete in three point

1022
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: contest during All Star Weekend. So Clark is gonna wait

1023
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: until Indianapolis hosts the WNBA All Star Weekend in July

1024
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: to enter her first three point contest as a pro.

1025
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: But she said, I don't want to do this. I

1026
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: think there's reports or rumors that it was going to

1027
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: be maybe a Clay and Steph versus i Escu and

1028
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: then Caitlin Clark, but she is declining this option. Is

1029
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 1: this is this news?

1030
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: I mean, bummer for us, but I think this is

1031
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 5: a good news for the WNBA.

1032
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how I read it. She wants her first

1033
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 6: three point contest to be for the w That's cool.

1034
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,479
Speaker 6: She's using her star power to blow up her league,

1035
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 6: not her responsibility to save All Star Weekend in the NBA.

1036
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 3: Go point Yeah. Yeah. Every quote that she's had since

1037
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: she's become a WNBA player is always praising those who

1038
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: have come before her. She is always wanting to make

1039
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: sure that people know that this league was there before her,

1040
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: and so this is just her trying to help out

1041
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: the league and trying not to say the NBA needs me.

1042
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 3: She's putting her league before the NBA. It's great period.

1043
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: I love when I love when she does her quotes,

1044
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: when she when she talks to the media, and then

1045
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: when I hear about her playing on the floor that

1046
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: she talks a lot of trash on the floor. You know,

1047
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: I love her demeanor and this is just a it's

1048
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: a good movie. Yes, that's unfortunately disappointed.

1049
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like the best part of All Star

1050
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Weekend last year.

1051
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: I can't disagree with versus Sabrina.

1052
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: And like this, maybe you could have, you know, replicated it,

1053
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: you take it to the next I'm not an upset

1054
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: with her. Yeah, it definitely to me, it's like Calen's arks,

1055
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: like I'm sorry, I'm bigger than all start with NBA

1056
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: All Star Weekend. You you definitely need me more than

1057
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: I need you. And it's choosing to obviously compete when

1058
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: they do it in July, I was at first, I

1059
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: was very confused. I'm like, oh, wow, Indianapolis is getting

1060
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: another All Star Weekend, just had one for the KAY

1061
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: But they're doing the w NBA and obviously that's her

1062
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: home squad, so she'll do that. But some people not

1063
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: happy with this that she's declining.

1064
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: I guess she's disinclined. As the headline. Yeah, that's news

1065
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: that disinclined is used in headlines.

1066
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 6: I wasn't ready for that sports business and also had

1067
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 6: the part where it's like she actually doesn't like shooting

1068
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 6: off a rack. All of the oh, all of her

1069
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 6: training work is off catching shoots the dribble. Rightah, that's

1070
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 6: how you play basketball. There's no point to be practicing

1071
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 6: off the rack unless you're going into a three point contest.

1072
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 5: I thought that was interesting.

1073
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that is nice little wrinkle here, all right.

1074
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: Final one here from Awful Announcing Adam Silver suggests NBA

1075
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: could shorten games to ten minute quarters. Task Melos, Is

1076
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: this news?

1077
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: No, it's not news. It's not news. He's not doing it.

1078
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 3: He's not doing it. They are not doing it. There

1079
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: are far bigger problems in the NBA. Should we go

1080
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: through them? I mean, there's too many. The bigger issue

1081
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: is how long games take? How many timeouts there? How

1082
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 3: many commercials are the video reviews that takes way too long.

1083
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: Let's look at soccer football, not NFL football, the actual football,

1084
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 3: the world's most popular sport.

1085
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Adam Silver loves it.

1086
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does exactly. They play a game within two hours,

1087
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: under two hours, with ninety minutes of play. How do

1088
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: they do it? Running clock and zero commercials during those

1089
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: forty five minutes, but at least cutaway commercials. Sometimes they'll

1090
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: throw on in I guess while the game is pleaing played.

1091
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: But what you got to do is reduce timeouts and

1092
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 3: all that. And I don't buy this. Oh it shortens

1093
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: the game. As Adam said, under two hours to make

1094
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: it more popular. I mean, the NFL, America's most popular sport.

1095
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: They play lot but you know what, Yeah, it's way

1096
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: over three hours. But you know what they do. They

1097
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: play games once a week. That's far bigger, far more important.

1098
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 3: If you want NBA players to play every single game,

1099
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: don't play eighty two. Don't play back to backs. That's

1100
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: what they do in Europe, that's what they do in

1101
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: other parts of the world. That's a lot of games.

1102
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Speaker 1: In Silver's defense, a part of him saying this was

1103
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: the concept of like making basketball across the world uniformed, right, sure,

1104
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: where FOEBA plays the forty minute games it's played at

1105
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: many other levels college. So he did bring up that

1106
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: point of like maybe we go to that, but he admitted, like, well,

1107
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: what happens to all the NBA records and stuff like that?

1108
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: Is that all thrown out the window and there's complications,

1109
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: But what do you think t you can?

1110
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 6: I think it's very funny that if you subtract eight

1111
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 6: minutes from every game for every team in the NBA,

1112
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 6: it's the equivalent of playing a sixty eight game season.

1113
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 6: It's literally fourteen games off of every team, right right.

1114
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 6: That would be a simple way to shorten the season,

1115
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 6: but there's no way the owners will do it because

1116
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 6: that means fourteen nights where people aren't coming to the

1117
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 6: stadium and buying popcorn and city edition jerseys.

1118
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 5: So I agree with us.

1119
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 6: I don't think this is gonna actually happen, but obviously

1120
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Speaker 6: Adam Silver's looking for ways to make the game.

1121
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 5: Quicker and more entertaining.

1122
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 6: When I think of a FOBA game, the first thing

1123
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Speaker 6: that sticks out to me is not the forty minute clock.

1124
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 6: It's like the physicality, the lack of timeouts, the lack

1125
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 6: of reviews. There's other stuff besides looking at the clock

1126
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 6: and seeing that there's fewer minutes on there.

1127
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 5: I also think that worthes to happen. We're the league

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Speaker 5: to want.

1129
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 6: The players' union should really fight it, because if you

1130
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 6: play a college length game, you're going to get college rotations,

1131
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 6: which is good for Tom Thibodeau, but not good for

1132
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 6: the guys who are number eight through fifteen on an

1133
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 6: NBA roster.

1134
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true.

1135
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: Not a lot of minutes to go around in that case. Look,

1136
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: if he really wants to make the basketball television product

1137
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: under two hours, you don't have to take it from

1138
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: forty eight minute game to forty minute game. There are

1139
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: other things you can do. You guys have listed a

1140
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: few of them. Start the games on time. That's a

1141
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: start huge to this. You know, you say it's a

1142
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: says seven o'clock in our schedule, but it doesn't start

1143
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: until seven h nine, seven ten, seven to fifteen in

1144
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: bigger games. So there's that. Eliminate coaches challenges and reviews

1145
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: at least up until the final two minutes. There are

1146
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: too many. It's not needed in the regular season. I

1147
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: get it at the end of games. I get it

1148
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: in the postseason. Cut those back and then reduce some

1149
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: of the late game timeouts which kill all flow of

1150
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: these games and really has a huge difference to the

1151
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: to the FEBA basketball. It feels like also, if you

1152
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: want to get freaky, you can adopt the G League

1153
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: free throw shooting rules if you want to like speed

1154
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: up the game. There at the line, you know, they

1155
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: do the thing where one free throw is worth one,

1156
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: two or three points depending on the type of foul. Right,

1157
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: so you know, if you take a shot and you

1158
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: get fouled on a two point shot, you just shoot

1159
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: the one. It's two points. It speeds it up, and

1160
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: you don't you know, that doesn't apply again in the

1161
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: final two minutes or overtime. So there are ways we

1162
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 1: can get a faster game, a more entertaining product. It's

1163
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: not just reducing the clocket and and I love feeble.

1164
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: I love the forty minute game. I think we all do,

1165
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: like we always talk about it when we watch it,

1166
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: but there are many other things here to make it

1167
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: a better game and a better product.

1168
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 5: On television, it's the flow flow.

1169
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when we watch it, we say, WHOA, that

1170
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: was short. It happened really quickly. But what they also

1171
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: employ is shorter commercials. Sure everything is faster. So that's

1172
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: a big part of it. Although I'm not sure how

1173
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: this entire interview went, but Adam Silver has talked about

1174
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: speeding up the end of the games several times, so

1175
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: maybe that was talked about in this interview. I don't know.

1176
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 3: Maybe I was just being asked. You know, he's getting

1177
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 3: thrown some questions, so he brought it up because yes,

1178
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: I understand that he wants to take this game as

1179
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: global as possible, and so that's part of it, is

1180
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: just saying every single league, every single tournament, is the

1181
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 3: exact same, and so I understand that.

1182
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: It definitely makes you think when the idea of this

1183
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: your NBA European expansion and that potential league over there,

1184
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: you get where he's like, let's make it the same

1185
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: whatever that is, let's make it the same. NBA games

1186
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: this season of run two hours and sixteen minutes on average, test,

1187
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: I know, usually love it all. That's pretty s It's

1188
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: nearly identical apparently to like the last fifteen seasons, which

1189
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: is say fifteen to sixteen.

1190
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, yeah, I'm just saying I guess that's from

1191
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: that ten minutes after the actual listed time.

1192
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.

1193
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: More like six.

1194
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, good point. Michael Malone was asked about you know

1195
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: this concept ten minute quarters, it's not even quote. He says,

1196
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: I hope we don't become Barnum and Bailey or do

1197
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: whatever we have to do to keep viewership, because there's

1198
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: a greatness and a history to this game and a

1199
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 1: purity to this game that I hope we can find

1200
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: a way to stay true to. Again. That it was

1201
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: Michael Malone, Nuggets head coach.

1202
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 5: He said.

1203
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: He also complimented Silver like you gotta stay creative and

1204
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: obviously continue to grow the game and tweak the game

1205
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: and make it better. But you know, don't get don't

1206
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: get too insane.

1207
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 6: You know, it feels like a big change that would

1208
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 6: be a bad pitch, Changing the length of the game,

1209
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 6: changing the lines on the court. These are like huge

1210
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 6: changes that will have effects on the history of the NBA.

1211
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 6: You could just market it like like there's a good

1212
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 6: game on every night.

1213
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 3: No, yeah, yes, there's great players.

1214
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: We just drafted six.

1215
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 6: Everybody can shoot threes, and people are like this sucks.

1216
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 6: These guys are too good.

1217
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Yeah, yeah, I was at

1218
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: the gym with somebody today. That's that played basketball somewhat

1219
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 3: professionally and said the games just saying the same anymore. Well, yeah,

1220
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: it ain't. But it's damn good. Everybody's more skilled. And

1221
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 3: that's the unfortunate part is that, Yes, there's just other ways.

1222
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: There's other ways. Again, I don't want to go back

1223
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 3: to the NFL as they always do, but I must.

1224
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 3: I mean, it's more popular in America than basketball, and

1225
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: they play once a week. That's it.

1226
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: We could do. It apples to oranges.

1227
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: We could do.

1228
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: And they play so few games to so many games,

1229
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: and they got.

1230
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 3: A big TV deal.

1231
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 5: They're trying to add games.

1232
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are more.

1233
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're playing on Tuesdays.

1234
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 5: We got swap games.

1235
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: That's the real question. How many games could an NFL

1236
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: season add to the point where people start to go,

1237
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: you know what, it's not that important. I don't care

1238
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: as much. I don't. It's it's a lot still because

1239
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: there does great numbers no matter who's playing and whatever

1240
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: the stakes in that game. But there's got to be

1241
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 1: a tipping point at some point.

1242
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 3: Don't they have bad ratings when the Jaguars play that.

1243
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 5: I got news.

1244
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: But there's still better than any NBA.

1245
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 5: Again, for the most part Jaggs.

1246
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: Come on, Lawrence, let's hear from you guys out there.

1247
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: What do you think about Silver's comments there, about the

1248
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: ten minute quarters and just everything we just talked about there?

1249
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: Pick them especially over. We know that I will be

1250
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: paying it off in a couple of weeks. I'll be

1251
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: paying off my January loss. But hey, I got a

1252
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: victory last night, baby.

1253
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 5: Sweet.

1254
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm five and thirteen, task improved to thirteen and five,

1255
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: Tray ten and eight, and then Esh's nine to nine.

1256
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: But where we going to night?

1257
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1258
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 3: Well, I just saw this game and I got excited

1259
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 3: for it. Adam, this is a good game tonight, Houston. Yeah,

1260
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 3: I started on time, Houston visiting the Memphis Grizzlies. Grizzlies

1261
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: are favored by four and a half points, but these

1262
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 3: two teams played two great ones earlier in January, a

1263
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 3: four point game in a two point game. The Rockets

1264
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 3: are surprisingly three and o versus the Grizzlies this season.

1265
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: They own them. So I said, all right, all right,

1266
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 3: I'll just take the Rockets, as did Trey Skeets and

1267
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 3: Asher taking those four and a half points. You got

1268
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: one by five with those Memphis. Yeah, but this was fine,

1269
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: this was a fun.

1270
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: Should be a good one. Some one's on TNT nationally

1271
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: televised game.

1272
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I guess Adam said this is gonna be good.

1273
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: First, let's first game involves the Hawks, Hawks Calves. Bad

1274
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: timing for the Hawks, Hawks calves at seven. But Rockets,

1275
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: grizz got Lakers, Wizards, Wolves, Jazz and Magic Blazers. And

1276
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: we find out the All Star reserve. So you know

1277
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about that on tomorrow's drop podcast Worse

1278
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: of the Week nineties. Yes, yes, yes, good, good good.

1279
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: Uh and we might even draft our teams once we

1280
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: know all the all stars. So join us tomorrow morning

1281
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: at ten am Eastern here from the Classic Factory. All right,

1282
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: fun show. We'll see you guys tomorrow till that Clipper bros.

1283
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 6: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1284
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 6: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember we've got an NBA

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Speaker 3: conspiracy short coming out and uh, I just assumes is

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Speaker 3: gonna edit it. And I just have to thank dog

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Speaker 3: Ate my homework for giving a little motivation to make

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Speaker 3: that a short happen. He gave the idea a little bit.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously it was tweaks and molded, and we consulted,

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Speaker 3: and we you know, did some face timing together. A

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Speaker 3: sad dog ate my own, No, we did either way.

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Speaker 5: Had another fake calla.

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Speaker 1: Conspiracy on conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: Happen in description, good calling that fake.

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Speaker 1: Brace the day, people,