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Speaker 1: Oof, did we find a villain today?

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning, and I

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Speaker 2: think it's gonna be hard. We're gonna be hard pressed

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Speaker 2: to find someone who's a fan of this woman. You'll

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Speaker 2: understand why in just a second, because we're getting into

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Speaker 2: our brand new Second Date podcast. But first, we always

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Speaker 2: love to start with your comments.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Hope, Faith Joyce, Yeah, that's fun. Love the show.

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Speaker 1: I listen at work.

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Speaker 2: I then have to relive the show when I report

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Speaker 2: back to my husband, who refuses to listen.

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Speaker 1: He's an Insta reels over TikTok kind of person.

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Speaker 3: I actually just be a part of the show at

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Speaker 3: this point.

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Speaker 1: I'm already so involved.

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Speaker 3: There we are, There we go.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell your husband do it least in the very

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Speaker 2: least follow our socials at Brook and Jeffrey. Yeah on

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Speaker 2: Insta where he's yeah, then he can get a little

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Speaker 2: bit of that second date hit on those. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's go Second Date update brand new starts right now.

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Speaker 3: Second Date up date is singing okay on a first

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Speaker 3: date or during a first meet up?

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Speaker 2: Are you asking for yourself because you've always wanted to

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Speaker 2: live inside a musical?

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Speaker 3: Jeff I'm Jeff, I do my song of the week

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Speaker 3: here all the time, so I fully support that idea.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm some rando going out with Alexis or Brook,

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Speaker 3: probably would not recommend a duet with them.

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Speaker 1: You need to hate on our singing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so both vocally talented, thank you.

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Speaker 3: The man would just be so intimidated by the raw.

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Speaker 2: Music and art is more about effort than actual raw talent.

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Speaker 2: If loud enough, I sound better, like, don't have that

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Speaker 2: surprise exactly?

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Speaker 1: Do you want us to sing right now?

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Speaker 3: No? I don't want. I don't want the listeners to

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Speaker 3: be intimidated by you. But bring god exactly. I bring

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Speaker 3: it up though, because one of our listeners apparently was

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Speaker 3: singing during his first meet up.

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Speaker 1: I hope it was karaoke.

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Speaker 3: Well let's find out. His name is Charlie. Charlie, welcome

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Speaker 4: Hello are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Why did you come in not singing?

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Speaker 5: Hello?

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Speaker 4: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: I just want to give that's what we wanted.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not much of a karaoke person at all.

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Speaker 3: I take my solo back. It says in the email

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Speaker 3: here that you sang during your first meetup.

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Speaker 5: Well, I did, not knowing what I guess what I

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Speaker 3: Okay, we put way too much pressure on him coming

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Speaker 2: Sense musical Yeah, I'm guessing it's someone you met online, right,

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Speaker 4: Well, no, not not at all.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I was just at karaoke and I signed up

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Speaker 5: for Bohemian Rhapsody.

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Speaker 4: What nice?

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Speaker 1: You know, like a singer. I don't get it. You

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Speaker 1: don't like singing and you do a queen song?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like that is a big song, a big stretch.

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Speaker 5: I knew the song, so I knew all the words,

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Speaker 3: It is one thing when you hear a song on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the words singing with you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like maybe you bit off more than

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Speaker 3: you could chew with that song.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like seven minutes long. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you at least have friends with you to

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Speaker 1: make fun of you? I was going to say, to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they really tore me apart.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know, Charlie, we are doing a second date. Update.

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Speaker 2: So, although Jeffrey has been wanting to do karaoke reviews

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been petitioning to get rid of these stupid

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Speaker 5: So after I just like ruined this song and totally

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Speaker 1: Settle for you.

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Speaker 3: That's nice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And then she went up and did her song

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Speaker 5: So after he was done, I congratulated her and asked

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean she's the karaoke queen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So did you do it or did you say no,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah, I asked her out.

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Speaker 3: Good the moment.

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Speaker 2: So you have one drink and then you guys go

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we had a couple of drinks that night, hung out,

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Speaker 4: I think it was like two or three days later.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's your official date. How did that go?

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Speaker 4: Wow? That was completely different. It's just such a different

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Speaker 5: You know, started off conversating over dinner, and she cried

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Speaker 5: three different times throughout the night.

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Speaker 2: Wow, was there like some I cry over everything? Like literally,

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Speaker 2: it's really hard for me. It like really impedes on

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Speaker 3: Everything, and yet you still do it.

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Speaker 1: No, it's like my emotional reaction. It's like blushing for me, do.

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Speaker 3: You know what? Like started to crying.

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Speaker 5: We were talking about her sister and she she started crying.

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Speaker 5: And then the second time she started crying about her dog,

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Speaker 3: So her sister's totally healthy, her dog's totally healthy, and

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Speaker 1: But crying is it always about being sad or upset?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's about like just a really deep feeling like

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Speaker 3: Going through it and everything that day.

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Speaker 4: Maybe yeah. But then the third time she cried was

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Speaker 4: was over dessert. I mean over a fln.

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Speaker 3: I've cried over something. Were you eating dessert or what

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: No, I said, let's change the environment. Let's go out

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, And that made her cry.

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Speaker 3: The suggestion of dessert made her cry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you get her the flawn because girlfriend.

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Speaker 3: Needs She sounds like she didn't even want it.

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Speaker 1: She needs where she is.

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Speaker 2: You eat this cake, whether you want to or not

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm just totally confused. There was this great interaction.

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Speaker 4: She was crying about everything.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Charlie, I know it's probably hard, but if you

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Speaker 4: If I had to guess, maybe she's just going through

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's call her on the radio and ask

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Speaker 5: Or Ellie, it was just a full moon that night

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Speaker 5: and people act weird on that night.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to say, some people cry for good things.

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Speaker 3: I cry watching soldiers from home videos, and I cry

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Speaker 3: on cute stuff. So maybe she was like thinking about

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Speaker 2: Good thing in Coco or just a full moon werewolf situation,

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Speaker 3: her when we do your second Date Update super emotional

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Speaker 3: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning, and if you're just

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Speaker 3: joining us, our listener, Charlie hung out with a woman

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Speaker 3: named Janine on two separate occasions. Yes, and I tend

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Speaker 2: Karaoke Sharon drinks together, that sounds fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The second hangout, where he's sitting across a table

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Speaker 1: It wasn't fun for her either, Jess. Nobody had a

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Speaker 3: We don't know exactly what was going on, not even Charlie.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't know why the crying was happening. She seemed

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Speaker 3: the night ended with him suggesting that they go grab

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Speaker 3: dessert together, and that resulted in immediate wailing. I really

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Speaker 3: don't know what we're gonna get here if she answers

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Speaker 3: and actually be super respectful. Oh what do you think

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Speaker 3: about that strategy, Brooke?

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Speaker 1: I think that we shouldn't bring up the crime. I

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Speaker 2: I mean, I would assume it's something really personal happening

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Speaker 2: in her life and it's none of our business.

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Speaker 3: It's a good point, fair, We'll just say you hung

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Speaker 3: out with Charlie.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, she.

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Speaker 2: Spent a lot of time with him at the karaoke bar,

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Speaker 2: and like there could be a very innocent reason she's.

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Speaker 1: Not calling him back.

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Speaker 3: Charlie. Is that okay with you if we take that approach, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine. I mean, but what do we call her?

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Speaker 4: I just I want to express it. She has feelings.

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Speaker 4: The most women that I date, they're not like open

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Speaker 4: like this. I have the most respect for her. Maybe

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Speaker 4: she was just having a bad day, you say.

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Speaker 2: If she has feelings.

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Speaker 1: There's most women you date don't have feelings.

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Speaker 3: Oh well they don't.

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Speaker 4: They don't really open up like that.

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Speaker 1: Oh I see you like the vulnerability.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah I do.

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Speaker 3: Charlie, do you promise us that you're not going to

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Speaker 1: I don't want him to make that promise cry if

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Speaker 1: you need to, Charlie crying people on the phone. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: People are going to keep on listening to this. So

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Speaker 3: here we go. If you're also going to cry with us,

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hi, is this Jeanine?

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Speaker 7: Yes, she's calling.

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Speaker 3: Hey Jeanine. This is a radio show calling. We're called

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Speaker 3: Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning Positive Upbeat Show. Hi Janine,

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Speaker 3: good morning.

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Speaker 7: Okay, you have.

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Speaker 3: A good time today, Janine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, why are.

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Speaker 6: You doing that?

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Speaker 1: You You're coming off like an infomercial salesman.

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Speaker 3: I love those commercials. Those are great.

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Speaker 1: They're awful. Hi Janine, welcome to the show. I hope

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Speaker 1: you have a second for us.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hope you have a second.

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Speaker 7: What is this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a This is a segment we do.

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Speaker 3: It's called the Second Date Update, and we try to

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Speaker 3: help out our listeners if they've gone out with someone recently.

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Speaker 3: We try to figure out if there's a reason why

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Speaker 7: I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: We're really just calling based about a guy that you

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Speaker 6: Who Charlie Charlie.

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Speaker 2: He's the one that's saying Bohemian Rhapsody at the karaoke bar.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, the karaoke dude. Yeah I remember him.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So we're trying to help Charlie figure out why

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Speaker 6: I don't really have much reason. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 1: Well it's not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Charlie asked us to call you like on

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Speaker 7: Okay, I don't know why he do that either, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Because he likes you. Does that seem far facts.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys want to hung out?

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Speaker 1: Are you scared of her job?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 1: I think Charlie just really likes you.

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Speaker 4: Well, a lot of guys do.

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Speaker 7: It's nothing new to me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that must be nice. She's a good singer. It

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. We did hear your Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 6: I mean, he doesn't really know me and I don't

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Speaker 2: So it's strange because he was like, one thing that

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Speaker 1: And I guess maybe it's just weird to have us call.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's now.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, guys are just super easy to be manipulated. Like

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Speaker 2: What wait, you're manipulating men, that's like what you get

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Speaker 3: You fake cried.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if it gets me a free uber or drink, food, whatever,

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Speaker 3: I don't understand what because can I just tell her

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Speaker 3: But Charlie mentioned that on your second hangout, you cried

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Speaker 7: I mean, he bought me the one drink, everything was fine.

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Speaker 6: I cried again to you know, get another, but he

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Speaker 2: So so then you cried a third time or a

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean I had to try sure.

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Speaker 1: Sweet turned down dessert.

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Speaker 3: No one turns.

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Speaker 6: Why wouldn't I stick around if he's not going to

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you were specifically crying, trying to send the

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Speaker 1: There's no message, Jeff, She's just manipulating him.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, I'm right here, I'm listening.

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Speaker 1: Good, I'm glad you heard all of that. Yeah, who

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Speaker 3: Wow, broke. Come on, you said to be respectful about

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Speaker 1: She's making all the other women that actually cry look bad.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that you make women look bad.

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Speaker 1: You're manipulating men for drinks. He would just buy you

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Speaker 1: a drink without you cry.

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Speaker 3: She's just a normal lady.

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Speaker 4: The reason why you fried is just so I would

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you're like, honestly, that's like a toddler.

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Speaker 1: That's what my kids do.

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Speaker 2: They try to cry so I'll buy him something and

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Speaker 2: I say, no, cry all you want.

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying you that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Tell your emotions are getting the best of you right now.

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Speaker 3: I think you need to take a break. Everyone needs

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Speaker 3: we need to let them talk to there. Yeah, Jeanine

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Speaker 3: right now, because Charlie has been listening this entire time.

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Speaker 3: He does want to talk to you, Yes, about what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Charlie, now's your moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's really nothing to say at this point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, she's just a child, and this is like.

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Speaker 7: No, this is ridiculous to bring me on the radio

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling he's not going to get another

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all know this is I think

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Speaker 3: He's not manipulating her back with his tears.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, Janine, do you feel so bad for him?

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Speaker 7: No? Why would I? I mean it was a date.

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Speaker 6: It's not like either of us had anything like serious

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Speaker 2: I mean, any point were you actually interested in him?

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Speaker 2: Because it sounds like you're just using him to get stuff.

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Speaker 7: I'm not just using him, I'm using all the guys.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and you've you've figured out the key to manipulating

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Speaker 3: do whatever you ask them for.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Like I don't even have to be on a date

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Speaker 4: Everybody. Everybody's gonna think you're a basket case and you're

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Speaker 6: Or people can just think I'm controlling my emotions in

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Speaker 7: I mean, I got five hundred bucks off a car

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's a good deal. Actually need to do that, listen.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like, Janine, I hear that you're angry

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Speaker 2: go bigger. I don't know, person nice, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I have an idea. Why don't you'll just shut the up?

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Speaker 3: I think that was directed towards you Brook. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 7: All of y'all everything to one of you.

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Speaker 1: Wait, she just hung out for sure we were going

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Speaker 4: I can't believe that's alf that. I really thought she

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Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, I know the whole room kind of fell

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's be respectful of this goal. Remember that

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Speaker 3: that sounds like a perfect impersonation of me Jeff in

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Speaker 3: the morning. You know, here's the question that we didn't ask.

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Speaker 3: Has anybody in this room fake cried before? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I feel like someone here has definitely tried to cry

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Speaker 3: And if that's true, then we are no better than

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Speaker 2: Now I've really cried, I've gotten pulled over. It really hicked,

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Speaker 1: So I was still cry. I mean no, it was

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Speaker 3: Though the officer was like, come on, man, this is

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Speaker 3: don't believe that. I do like the idea though. Crying

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Speaker 3: Frame crying into something positive. We can be manipulated into

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Speaker 3: helping our listeners if you send us an email with

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Speaker 3: a bunch of crying emojis on it, and I will

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Speaker 3: feel obligated to take action. That action might be to

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 3: Might as well reach out and.

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Speaker 1: Find out they just said the second part, Yeah, we will.

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Speaker 3: Try to help. Just email the show. We'll call that

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Speaker 3: person who's not calling you back, and go check out

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Speaker 3: all of our second dates. Yeah, you find them online

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Speaker 3: where you gets your podcast? That Brooke and Jeffrey