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Speaker 1: And yet again I am joined by David gagon A

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Speaker 1: into overnight sports radio doing God's work, right, I guess?

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Speaker 1: How is how is the work that you're doing now

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Speaker 1: at home compared to being here in the studio. Have

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Speaker 1: you noticed a major difference at all? Are now? I

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Speaker 1: don't like this shows any different, Like I think it's

429
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Speaker 1: the same because I never saw Eddie. I've never been

430
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Speaker 1: in the same room with Eddie for the whole time

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Speaker 1: we worked together. Because the update room is the news

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Speaker 1: rooms around the corner at the studios, it's not like

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Speaker 1: we see each other, so it's no different. I'm just

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Speaker 1: my studios. Further, away than uh than it used to be.

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Speaker 1: But I do missed going in. You know, I love

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Speaker 1: going to the radio station and the whole the vibe,

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Speaker 1: the energy which I was listening. Uh. I won't get

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Speaker 1: into why, but I heard a little Gottlieb show earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week and John Ramos was talking on the

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Speaker 1: air and he had his mask on. He was all muffled,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was it was what's going on with

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Speaker 1: And it was like it was like Ramos, you know,

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Speaker 1: I understand being a little paranoid, but I mean you

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Speaker 1: you got to wear the mask. I mean, what's going

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Speaker 1: on with that? Yeah, that's a little on. We've had

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Speaker 1: some guys on the weekends to the same thing. I

447
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Speaker 1: am not paranoid, right, I mean, am I wrong on

448
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Speaker 1: that thing? That's a little paranoid that you're just by talking,

449
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get that and a microphone. That's that's really

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Speaker 1: get todd. We at that point should I be concerned? Here?

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Speaker 1: We all it's at end times. Yeah, we've had hosts

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Speaker 1: that have actually been on the air with masks on. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the name names right now, name name Steve Hartman, Steve

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Speaker 1: Hartmant would never do that. Steve would never suppress his

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Speaker 1: own voice. That's a good point. Steve loves. The only

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Speaker 1: person that loves to hear Steve Hartman more than Steve

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Speaker 1: Hartman is Steve Hartman. Yeah, yeah, Steve would never do that,

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Speaker 1: but no, but yeah, there's it seems to be a

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Speaker 1: fashion forul pause though, So you don't want to name names.

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Speaker 1: You're afraid to name names, So you don't want to

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Speaker 1: do that, even though I'm assuming the people listening to this,

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Speaker 1: who listened to Fox Sports Radio all the time, they

463
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Speaker 1: big super fans of the network would know just by listening,

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Speaker 1: you can tell when someone's wearing a mask, they sound different.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, and there's a reason for me

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Speaker 1: to rat anybody out, that's uh, you know, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know. We live in the state right now where

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Speaker 1: we have to wrap people out. We're just walking down

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Speaker 1: the street or going to the beach or going to

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Speaker 1: the park. But you know, I'm not gonna be a

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Speaker 1: part of that. I'm gonna be bigger than that. I

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Speaker 1: went on a rant about Gavin Newsom, the Weasley governor

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Speaker 1: of the state of California. My wife, Yeah, King Newsome,

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Speaker 1: it's the People's Republic of California. And I think he's

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Speaker 1: taking his talking points from the leaders in China. But uh,

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Speaker 1: as I said, I told my wife, I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: you know what, what's the fucking point of living in California.

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Speaker 1: We pay outrageous taxes here, taxation with terrible representation, and

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Speaker 1: they have the fucking balls to shut down the beaches.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we might as well live in Nebraska or

481
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Speaker 1: Iowa or Kansas, right. I mean the advantage you have

482
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Speaker 1: one of them is the obviously the weather in California,

483
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Speaker 1: but also the ability to go to the beach. It's

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Speaker 1: the whole fucking West Coast pretty much as California. And

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Speaker 1: this weasel, uh, this Weasley governor California High Hope gets

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Speaker 1: thrown out of office. Gavin Newsom, what a schmuck. I mean,

487
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Speaker 1: this guy, it's a total power play. Now, it's a

488
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Speaker 1: total power play. What's going on now? You're on the

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Speaker 1: third rail? My man. I'm sorry, I just upset me.

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Speaker 1: My man. You I blame you. You started this. No,

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Speaker 1: I would just say I want to wrap people out.

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Speaker 1: And did you get any pushback for going on a

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom ramp by the way, Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just did it. I haven't done it on the show,

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Speaker 1: and I are you talking about with my wife? No, No,

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Speaker 1: on the radio. I didn't do it on the radio.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't. I just at home. I didn't. When

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Speaker 1: I was looking at I watched the news for like

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes because that's all I can handle. And then

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Speaker 1: you know, I saw the headline, Gavin Newsom plans to

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Speaker 1: shut down all the beaches in California. I saw the

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Speaker 1: headline the other day as we're recording the podcast, and

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Speaker 1: and so I was like, what the funk is this?

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Speaker 1: I can social distance. I wear you your dopey little

505
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Speaker 1: mask and all the gloves and all that ship. But

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Speaker 1: if I want to go to the beach, I'll sit

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Speaker 1: on the beach. Fuck you. That's what I have to say. Now,

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Speaker 1: deep think he will? Do you think he'll shut because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna shut down the beaches and parks? Do you

510
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna shut down the Airport's? I mean because

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Speaker 1: that would be appropriate, right? I mean, if you're talking

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Speaker 1: about social distancing, like we're talking about airplanes and people

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Speaker 1: that are well within six feet from each other sitting

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Speaker 1: on an airplane coming into Sacramento, San Francisco, Oakland, l

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Speaker 1: a long beach like that would make sense, right at

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Speaker 1: a local airport. Well, no one's flying now anyway. People

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Speaker 1: are still flying. No, it's not hardly anyone. They I

518
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Speaker 1: think they've lost like ninety five percent of their their business,

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Speaker 1: the airplane people. But I listen. I hope I'm wrong

520
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Speaker 1: about a sense that we're getting to a tipping point

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Speaker 1: here that people are they've reached the end and is

522
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Speaker 1: people have gone a little too far and uh, and

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to roll back some of these restrictions.

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Speaker 1: You're just gonna have to. And if you don't, um,

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Speaker 1: well you're gonna have to deal with what happens. And

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Speaker 1: I I hope it doesn't get nasty. But there's a

527
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Speaker 1: lot of people I hear this from from fans that

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Speaker 1: listen to the show, that are just they're over the

529
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Speaker 1: top at this point. They're like, you know, this is enough?

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Speaker 1: Enough is enough. It's an inflammatory situation. Yeah, it gets

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Speaker 1: even worse now on social media that I've seen. I've

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Speaker 1: seen doctors in Baker's field that have published YouTube videos

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Speaker 1: that have now been deleted. I know that that is

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Speaker 1: that also, I saw that that is unbelievable, Like if

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Speaker 1: you don't agree with the group think you get. It's

536
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Speaker 1: like when I used to watch the History Channel and they,

537
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Speaker 1: you know, Joseph Stalin would would make people that were

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Speaker 1: enemies of the state vanish, like get rid of all

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Speaker 1: the photos. I mean, it's unbelievable. It's like there's this

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Speaker 1: retaliation if you do not go and these you talk

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Speaker 1: about those doctors in Bakersfield and uh, and I saw

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Speaker 1: that the video that was like a TV news report.

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Speaker 1: The TV station in Bakersfield interviewed them, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: and they gave some numbers and they went through all

545
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Speaker 1: of it, which of course infuriated the politicians because they

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Speaker 1: don't correlate with what they had been saying. And uh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's almost like I did a rant the other

548
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Speaker 1: day guests Gun about I know you don't listen to

549
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Speaker 1: the show, but it was about mel Kuyper and the draft,

550
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Speaker 1: the mock crafts and how you know the top mock

551
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: draft guy was Peter King, who got about thirty of

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Speaker 1: the picks right right. Everyone else is like or less

553
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Speaker 1: of the picks. And it's kind of like one of

554
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Speaker 1: these things where like they make these bold they go

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Speaker 1: off projections on what's gonna happen. And I know there's

556
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Speaker 1: obviously a different situation with the coronavirus, but my entire life,

557
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Speaker 1: every time there's been some kind of medical thing, they

558
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: always have the most outrageous charts that talk about how

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Speaker 1: terrible things are going to be. And they never end

560
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Speaker 1: up like that. It never ends up like that, and

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Speaker 1: they never get called on it. It's it's in few rating,

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Speaker 1: it's it's irritating and it's maddening at the same time.

563
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: And and then of course they have the self fulfilling prophecy,

564
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: were like, well, see distance and that's why it worked?

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Speaker 1: How that fund? Do you know that? You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, it's it's a correlation causation anyway,

567
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Speaker 1: getting me carried away, that's a bad job by you, guests.

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Speaker 1: Gun Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup

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Speaker 1: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox

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Speaker 1: sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: app search f s R to listen live. I think

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Speaker 1: it's an important conversation to have, though, don't you think,

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially in this day and age that we're at,

574
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Speaker 1: because you know, people are listening to us. Podcast numbers

575
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: are up all across the board, and people are listening

576
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Speaker 1: in different parts of the country. So I think a

577
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Speaker 1: great test for us, at least here since we're in California,

578
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Speaker 1: is we're gonna see what happens in New York, and

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Speaker 1: we're also gonna see what happens in Florida. We're gonna

580
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Speaker 1: see what happens in Texas. I think what the sports

581
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: and the way it is right now, I thought for

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Speaker 1: the most part that this would be depending on the

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Speaker 1: league itself, I thought it would be a Red versus

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Speaker 1: Blue push. Red will probably be aggressive on how they

585
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Speaker 1: open up the states and Blues will be passive. I

586
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Speaker 1: just think that's the way it's gonna be, and obviously

587
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Speaker 1: for different reasons. Yeah, I know people are shocked, and

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of messages from people that are

589
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Speaker 1: email people that are like, what's going on now? You've

590
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: always been a panic peddler on the radio about sports,

591
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Speaker 1: but now you're not, you know, and I'm I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people out there that

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Speaker 1: have fatalist thinking, um and uh, and I get that,

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Speaker 1: I understand that, but you know, it's the how many

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Speaker 1: people have said, well, wait two weeks and then see

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Speaker 1: what happens. You know, the hospitals will be overwhelmed and

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Speaker 1: in these states that have opened up. Okay, well wait

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Speaker 1: two weeks, and what happens if they're not overwhelmed? What

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Speaker 1: do you do then? Right? What do you do with

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Speaker 1: that particular point anyway? All right, real quick? I do

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Speaker 1: you use Amazon a lot? Uh? Like Amazon? You talk

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Speaker 1: about buying crap on Yeah? Yeah, of course I bring

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Speaker 1: that up right now because of what you had just mentioned.

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Speaker 1: I trying to re put a review in for a

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Speaker 1: couple of products that I've purchased, um like digital products

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Speaker 1: like camera equipment, tripods and things of that nature. I

607
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 1: kid you not been. I have only made one review

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Speaker 1: in my entire time while on Amazon, and I've only

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Speaker 1: made inquiries on products like where they've been manufactured. I

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Speaker 1: I think I told you this about a month ago,

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Speaker 1: like I'm not going to buy anything that's Chinese made.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna do it. So I had sent

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Speaker 1: inquiries out to different companies on Amazon, like where their

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Speaker 1: products were manufactured from all of my comments the one comment,

615
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Speaker 1: but my ability to even put reviews in for anything

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Speaker 1: that I've purchased in the past been completely disbanded. I

617
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Speaker 1: can't comment or review on anything. I can't rate it,

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Speaker 1: I can't review it. It's mind boggling. And that's for

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Speaker 1: two accounts that I have. I have two different accounts

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Speaker 1: for two different emails, and Amazon is not allowed me

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Speaker 1: to do any of that stuff on there. Now. It

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Speaker 1: really is, you know, and I know people, and I've

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00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: always heard from these people all the government's out to

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Speaker 1: get you and all this stuff. They're gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: silence you. You know, these these guys, and I always

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Speaker 1: laughed at them. But in this case, that YouTube video

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Speaker 1: for the Bakersfield doctors that got raised is really outrageous.

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Speaker 1: Um and and the the thing about it, and and

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Speaker 1: then what you said, just because you want to know

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Speaker 1: what stuff was made in China. Of course Amazon, if

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Speaker 1: they didn't sell stuff made in China, they would not

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Speaker 1: have Amazon. I mean, it's kind of they just assume

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Speaker 1: everything's made in China based on on that. But I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not like you. I'm not making a

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Speaker 1: stand and not buying stuff from China. I'd rather buy

636
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Speaker 1: stuff from America. But I don't. I don't approach it

637
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: that way. But it's, uh, it's it's crazy that the

638
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Speaker 1: censorship that is legitimate. I mean it's legitimate. Is not

639
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: people you know, you know, going around all paranoid. This

640
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: is we have proof, we have tangible proof that the

641
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Speaker 1: big tech companies are doing and they are The thing

642
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Speaker 1: about I was gonna get to and I it slipped

643
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Speaker 1: my head. But why not? Is the real pity when

644
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: you talk about um, the politicians like there's no checks

645
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: and balances on these these like YouTube pulling a video

646
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: from the doctors in Baker's field because it agrees with

647
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: the government's position. So who the hell and d C

648
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: is gonna stand up and say, let's call in the

649
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: YouTube and say what the hell are you doing? Because

650
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: they in the eyes of the government, the politicians are

651
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: on the side of the their side, so why would

652
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Speaker 1: they do anything to call them out and make them accountable. Well, yeah,

653
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Speaker 1: especially because most of the tech comes from California. I

654
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: mean you're looking, you're looking at Silicon Valley, so that

655
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Speaker 1: it's the land of the intouchable, especially wild though. I

656
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: mean I always you know, I'm not a big science guy.

657
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: I like these studies and will do that in another podcast.

658
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Speaker 1: But you look around and you're like, well, what you

659
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: know it's like science has always been it's an imperfect thing, right,

660
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Speaker 1: it's in evolving. Science is always evolving, and not everyone's right, right,

661
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Speaker 1: And you know, right, you look at some of the

662
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Speaker 1: big discoveries and science, and people still try to prove

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Speaker 1: them wrong. Albert Einstein, Right, people still something maybe Einstein

664
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Speaker 1: missed something, you know, that kind of thing. But yet

665
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Speaker 1: in these cases of the pandemic, there's one set of

666
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: facts and that's it. You can't have anything else. And

667
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's really annoying. And the good thing

668
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: is if you have a different opinion or if you

669
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Speaker 1: have different information, you get to be labeled as a

670
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist. Well yeah, that's the way. That's the way

671
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: to silence you. Right, there's two ways people get silence

672
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: to say, well, you're just a conspiracy guy. Oh you're

673
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Speaker 1: you're a Trump guy. They say that, right, like to

674
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Speaker 1: dismiss you. That's that's the counter argument, which is a skill.

675
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Speaker 1: I think one of those documentaries you had me watch

676
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Speaker 1: guest and I think it was the c i A.

677
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Speaker 1: Came up with that to discredit, right, wasn't they They

678
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: were the ones that came up with that technique to

679
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: discredit the other side. It's um, which which argument technique

680
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: is that poisoning the well? Or is it shoot a messenger?

681
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: But it's got to be both, right, both Right, there

682
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: you go, it's both a little bit of both. It's

683
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: poisoning the well, shoot the messenger, and uh, if you

684
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: want to just look at the argument techniques. I mean,

685
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: all these are played out in in these conversations. But

686
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: I love I love the fact that we have the

687
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: ability through technology to correspond and to publish, to talk,

688
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: to argue all these things with people. I am all

689
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: open for it. Like I don't. I don't believe in

690
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: cancel culture. I don't believe in censoring. I believe in

691
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Speaker 1: free speech. But it's absolutely appalling to me that when

692
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Speaker 1: we get on social media platforms with it's Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube,

693
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Speaker 1: whatever it may be, God forbid, somebody higher up the

694
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Speaker 1: food chain does not like what's published. Then it gets

695
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: removed without a shadow of it down and then there's

696
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: no penalties either. That goes the other way too for

697
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Speaker 1: the media. I mean, we look at ourselves. Obviously we're

698
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: just sports junkies. It's a little bit different. But you

699
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: get reporters that are out there that have free range

700
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 1: to produce, promote right, whatever the funk they want, and

701
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: they have no repercussions for whatever they publish. Yeah, they

702
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: might get that, might get drilled by social media, they

703
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: might get drilled by one party or the other. But

704
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: still there's there's They're flying with plenty of parachutes and

705
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: a cushion ground to fall on. Uh yeah, listen, I

706
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Speaker 1: I agree with you, but you know everyone's biased, and

707
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Speaker 1: I don't really care. I grew up in a Household've

708
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: told the story before, and you know, I was My

709
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: mom was a liberal, my dad was a conservative, and

710
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, so growing up in my household, there would

711
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: be tremendous debates at the dinner table. They always talked

712
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: about whatever was going on in politics of the day.

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Speaker 1: And that's how I grew up. And I grew up

714
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Speaker 1: with the back and forth. And I know we're in

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Speaker 1: an area now where you can't have dissenting voices and

716
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: all that, and it bothers me because I didn't grow

717
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: up like that. And I don't really care. I mean,

718
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: I have friends that I totally disagree with their position,

719
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: but I don't care. I'm a big deal. We're not

720
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Speaker 1: in we're not in positions of power to change anything.

721
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I have my position, you

722
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: have your position. We can all get along. It's fine,

723
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: but a lot of people do not agree with that,

724
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Speaker 1: and they don't want to associate with people that have.

725
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: You only want that same argument, you know, the same

726
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: group think on your side. But this is like professional

727
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: sports in such a way that professional athletes, whether it's

728
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: an illegal shot to the head or an illegal check,

729
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: whatever it be, throwing at a batter up and in,

730
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Speaker 1: they get suspended for a day, they get suspended for

731
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Speaker 1: five games, they get find the whole nine yards? What

732
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: they What do players not like? They don't want they

733
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Speaker 1: don't like losing money and to the note and like

734
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: not playing games. Well, that's the same thing for us. Now,

735
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: don't forget. People are obviously losing jobs, they're being furlough,

736
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Speaker 1: they're being laid off, they're being fired, and their civil

737
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: liberties are being stripped from the ability to go out,

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Speaker 1: the ability to walk down the street, the ability to

739
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Speaker 1: go to the park, go to the beach, whatever it

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00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: may be. Like, one by one you start getting these

741
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: people piste off. It doesn't matter the state that they're in.

742
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna start pushing back. And you know, it's unfortunate

743
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: that where we're at right now because obviously, in this

744
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: day and age, with the technology that we have in

745
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: the medicine, this thing, like you said, is evolving, and

746
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: I hope to god it's it's remedied suited rather than later.

747
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, well I kept hearing June, June, June, which

748
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: is still a month away, right, We're still a month

749
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: away from from June. So and that doesn't mean June one.

750
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: That could be June fifteenth or something like that. So um,

751
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, obviously, I I want people to

752
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: be healthy. I I looked at the data, have looked

753
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: at the information. I do not believe we're at the

754
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: point where they, you know, Dr Faucin, those guys were

755
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: saying originally, I think they were way off on their

756
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: their data. And I know, well it's because people are

757
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 1: social distancing. Okay, well, I can wear your little mask

758
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: if you want, but you can open things up. Okay,

759
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: it's not gonna it's not gonna end it stop anyway. Um,

760
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: So real quick, just to wrap up, you got boy

761
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 1: that we got sucked down a rabbit hole on that one. Ah, yeah,

762
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: I blame you. It was not on the rundown by Joby.

763
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: So now I'm gonna have Can I send you the

764
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: nasty emails I get from people that are very upset

765
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: by this conversation? Can I send that to you if

766
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: you can. I'm being probably tagged on it from a

767
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: couple of guys. I'm sure. The guy I'll get is

768
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: I love your show, but I can no longer listen.

769
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: I love that. That one's good. That's that's one of

770
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: my favorite. You're totally wrong on this, and let me

771
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: tell you why you're not. Yes, yes, and then they'll

772
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: give me a bunch of propaganda from the government. That's

773
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: usually how that goes. It's normally how that goes. Um,

774
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: So I just too real quick. I wrap up the

775
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: birthday week big thanks to the wife. She spoiled me

776
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Speaker 1: some driving all over the place. You can't go any restaurants,

777
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: but she drove to my favorite Italian placed, Palermo's over

778
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: there in East Hollywood and picked up some pizza rosa

779
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: and brought that home and that was great. So I

780
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: love that place, and I've been there in a long

781
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: time because everything's closed up and they're just doing take

782
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: out whatever, so that was cool. I had my Raising

783
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: Canes this week, which I love, of course, and that

784
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: was great, and some other some other restaurants. I'm still fasting,

785
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: but I'm not fasting as long. And I would do

786
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: normally eight hour fast during the week. Depending on the day,

787
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: I needed to forty eight hour plus fast than one

788
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: four hour thing. But um, this is uh, you know,

789
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Speaker 1: this is like seventeen hours. I'm doing like seventeen, which

790
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: I think is fine. I think seventeen is fine for

791
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Speaker 1: the birthday week. And then I get back my schedule

792
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: and I mentioned the key we returned. I had briefly

793
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: brought this up on the radio show, but I got

794
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Speaker 1: a phone call from my my friend Darcy Waldergrave, who

795
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Speaker 1: I used to be on with every week in New

796
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Speaker 1: Zealand on Radio Sport and they closed up Radio Sport

797
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: because of the pandemic. He completely shut it down. So

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Speaker 1: I said, hey, how are you doing everything all right?

799
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Speaker 1: And we had a brief conversation and Darcy mentioned that

800
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Speaker 1: while Radio Sport is dead and buried and they're not

801
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: going to bring it back, it does sound like we

802
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: could be reunited. And he said he's got a new

803
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: show that he's doing here on a big news talk

804
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: station in Auckland, New Zealand, is huge blow towards station.

805
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: And though we are in talks, guest gun for me

806
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: to be the international correspondent for his station. What's that?

807
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: Mostly sports, but whatever is going on in the US

808
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: pop culture. We can can do that. Any any idea

809
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: when that would be agin? I don't know. He just

810
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: called me the other day. He said he was working

811
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Speaker 1: some stuff out and he would get back to me,

812
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: and I think he will. The fact that he called

813
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: me and I tried calling him back though, because I

814
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: was he called me like right at the end of

815
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: We Don't Break, but one of the pauses that we

816
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: took during the show, so he called me like like

817
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: a minute. I said, hey, I got a minute. I'll

818
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: call you back. So I called him back and like

819
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: for some reason the call wouldn't go through, but he

820
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: was able to call me. I don't know. It's it's

821
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Speaker 1: pretty far to get to New Zealand from from where

822
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Speaker 1: we are. But but anyway, all right, so we put

823
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Speaker 1: the baby to bed, Yes, guests, we put the baby

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Speaker 1: to bed. Listen, thank you, appreciate you for downloading it.

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Speaker 1: We'll we'll stay away from the third rail. We'll try

826
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Speaker 1: not to do that in future podcast. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a good event, all right, it's good event. It

828
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: feels nice to do that every once in a while. Um,

829
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: we all have cabin fever and so we can complain wine, bitch, moan, belly, ate,

830
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Have a great day today and we'll

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Speaker 1: catch you next time here on the fifth hour.