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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. How's

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Speaker 1: everybody doing on this Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve Tasker in with you for a Tuesday

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Speaker 2: edition of One Bill's Live. Players are out on the

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Speaker 2: practice field, so we'll get you updates on that in

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Speaker 2: just a second, as they are back to work after

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Speaker 2: getting Monday off and reviewing film, which I'm sure was

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Speaker 2: a tedious task, shall we say, for the coaches trying

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Speaker 2: to pull the positive out and learning from the negatives.

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Speaker 1: I guess more than anything else. It was interesting to.

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Speaker 2: Hear coach talk about it today because he addressed the

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Speaker 2: media about an hour ago or half an hour ago,

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Speaker 2: an hour ago, and he said, got to identify where

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Speaker 2: we are fundamentally, like who has mastered the fundamentals, you know, blocking, tackling, catching, You.

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Speaker 3: Know where you're supposed to go and what you're supposed

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Speaker 3: to do, no matter how you're doing it right.

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Speaker 2: Well, he said, you know, we use that film to

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Speaker 2: make an assessment who is week run ready right now

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Speaker 2: and who is not.

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Speaker 3: The question was also asked, how do you handle a

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Speaker 3: guy likes for instance, with the injuries Cedric Van Prink,

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Speaker 3: Granger and Brownie I were just talking about him before

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Speaker 3: we came on the air. Popped a calf muscle just

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Speaker 3: before training camp. He hasn't practiced at all, but he

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Speaker 3: was part of your fifty three last year and he

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Speaker 3: was a top he was your backup center. Yeah, how

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Speaker 3: do you evaluate where he's at in comparison with the

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Speaker 3: other guys that are working there and you know you

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Speaker 3: haven't seen him. Yeah, there's I mean, it's really tough.

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Speaker 2: We're a week away from the cutdown to fifty three.

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Speaker 2: It's next Tuesday, so you have to assess where he is.

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Speaker 2: Clearly he's not week one ready. You know, if God forbid,

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Speaker 2: something happens to McGovern, who, by the way, has got

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Speaker 2: a hamstring injury and is limited in practice today, you

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Speaker 2: can't have a guy in a back who's one play

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Speaker 2: away from getting in a game, who hasn't played at all.

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Speaker 1: In the preseason, let alone training camp.

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Speaker 2: So you may have to have him make the roster

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Speaker 2: in the fifty three, then put him on IR the

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Speaker 2: next day and say we'll see in a month.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that might be what you have to do.

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Speaker 2: You can't put him on IR before the year. I

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Speaker 2: get that, I mean, but that's some of the roster

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Speaker 2: gymnastics you may have to do with a guy like him.

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Speaker 3: Right, So if you want to give it, get a

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Speaker 3: chance to evaluate him, that's what you gotta do. And

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Speaker 3: he's got to take up a fifth spot. So yeah, that'll. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we'll see some gymnastics like that in this train, maybe

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Speaker 3: a little more than we see usually at the end

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Speaker 3: of training camp for the Buffalo Bills. It they they

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Speaker 3: do a little bit of that. But you may have

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Speaker 3: a handful of guys you know that are that they

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Speaker 3: have to maneuver like cut them, bring him.

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Speaker 1: Back, oh it's more than one, or I r.

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Speaker 3: Him or put them on the fifty three. Then I

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Speaker 3: rum I mean this it's they're gonna have to do

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Speaker 3: some stuff like that to make it work. I think

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be roster gymnastics a week from now, for sure,

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Speaker 2: I think, And I think the initial fifty three man

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Speaker 2: roster you see is not how.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna look going into the first game.

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Speaker 2: There are going to be multiple changes that Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 2: next week, maybe even Friday.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be something to watch, no question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you get two spots, you conceivably get two

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Speaker 2: extra spots because you know you've you've got Hoyt and

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Speaker 2: Oguin Jobe going to reserve suspended. They don't count towards

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Speaker 2: your roster total, so they have two spots to play

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Speaker 2: with there. We got to see how Tyler Bass comes

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Speaker 2: through this week. If he can't kick this weekend in

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, you got to find out quick is he

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Speaker 2: going to be ready for Week one with only being

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Speaker 3: You got to kind of I r him right, you

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Speaker 2: weeks and then after you initially cut Kaden Davis, you

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Speaker 2: bring him back unless there's somebody else on the waiver

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Speaker 2: wire you like better.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's injuries really gob up the works.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they really. They have really been the distraction. And

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Speaker 3: none of the none of these injuries are you know,

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Speaker 3: Max Harrison is probably the worst one and they're expecting

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Speaker 3: ride the stationary bike. Today alongside our guy Max Harriston.

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Speaker 3: Was actually the first time I've seen him since he

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Speaker 1: He was off crutches last week.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's been off crutches for a while.

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Speaker 2: And he was actually at the joint practice last Friday

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Speaker 2: in Chicago, watching from the sidelines with.

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Speaker 1: His teammates, which always makes me a little wary.

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Speaker 2: I hate seeing guys coming back from injury just standing

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Speaker 1: Worry about that. That's you see that he's intermittently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, all right, so Max Harriston's on the ends.

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Speaker 3: So they are getting some of these guys are getting back,

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Speaker 1: They've missed a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, khal I know, Kalisa Cres all that stuff. But

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Speaker 3: Max Harrison are you can you imagine him jumping back

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Speaker 3: come on, there's no way. I hate that, but you know,

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Speaker 3: we'll see. Still, it's better than losing six guys to

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Speaker 2: Know, or season ending injuries, so as we said, hey.

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Speaker 2: Coach Sean McDermot addressed the media prior to practice had

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Speaker 2: some news and notes regarding some of Buffalo's long term

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Speaker 2: injured players. As Steve mentioned, Khalil Shakir on schedule and

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Speaker 2: his return from a high ankle spring. Coach said the

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Speaker 2: team could get him back later this week or early

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Speaker 2: next week at the latest. As for Tyler Bass, coach

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Speaker 2: said he'll kick on the side today, not with the team,

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Speaker 2: but the plan is for him to kick with the

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Speaker 2: he could kick in Saturday's preseason finale at Tampa. He

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Speaker 2: also had some interesting comments on the wide receiver and

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Speaker 1: It is completely up in the air.

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Speaker 2: He didn't mention an we're we're two and a half

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Speaker 2: his free safety is too, mainly to injury.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't mean they don't have guys that think

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Speaker 3: They got to get on the field. You know, obviously

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Speaker 3: the name that's there is Cold Bishop that they've been but.

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Speaker 1: He's it's clear they wanted it to be Cold Bishop.

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Speaker 3: He's struggling to stay healthy. Remember that's what derailed his

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Speaker 3: start to the Sea. He was inactive opening week last year.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he missed almost all the training camp with

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Speaker 3: So you know, here we are again.

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Speaker 2: So essentially the job remains open heading into the final

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Speaker 2: it to be Cold Bishop, but it's not him at

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Speaker 2: this point, and it's a reflection of his lack of

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Speaker 2: time on the field. Regarding the wide receiving corps, mcdermidd said,

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Speaker 2: essentially assuring there'll be six receivers on the fifty three

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Speaker 2: man roster. Top three are probably Shakir, Coleman and Palmer. Right,

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Speaker 3: That's how I see it. Yeah, even Curtis Samuels has

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Speaker 3: too he didn't know whether it's going to be four

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Speaker 2: And there are cap implications that are going to factor

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Speaker 2: into those receiver decisions as well. You know, Curtis Samuel's

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Speaker 2: costs prohibitive to cut. Could you trade him and have

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Speaker 2: less of a hit on the cap, Yes, But is

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Speaker 2: anybody gonna take on a receiver with that kind of

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Speaker 2: don't know. And then Elijah Moore has some guaranteed money

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Speaker 2: I know the money that they saved in the Cook

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Speaker 2: get to fifty three, when the top when everybody counts

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Speaker 2: on your cap. Right now, it's only top fifty one.

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Speaker 2: When you get to the fifty three man roster. It's

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Speaker 2: the fifty three players plus your practice squad.

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Speaker 1: They were over.

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Speaker 2: Now it looks like based on productions, they'll be just

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Speaker 2: under due to the money saved on the Cook extension

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Speaker 2: lot of financial gymnastics and positional gymnastics here.

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Speaker 3: Curtis Samuel is a nine million dollar cap hit, He's

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Speaker 3: twelve million. If you release him, he's seven million. Well

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Speaker 3: that's pre June for seven million salary.

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Speaker 2: You go post June first, he's eight point six hit

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Speaker 2: this year, another three million dead cap next year. If

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Speaker 2: you trade him, you'll only get one point seventy two

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Speaker 2: But who's getting that who's asking for that guy, right, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that anybody.

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Speaker 1: He's not on the field.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough sell.

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Speaker 2: Not practicing today, Cedric Van Priant, Granger, Max Harrison, Shakiir Hancock,

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Speaker 2: Keyante Jenkins a new addition to the injured roster, Tyland Grabil.

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Speaker 2: Still in concussion protocol. It's over two weeks now, so

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Speaker 1: Getting better soon. Limited in practice today.

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Speaker 2: also nicked up in the preseason game. On Sunday, Bills

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Speaker 2: will reportedly be hosting free agent wide receiver Gabe Davis

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Speaker 2: on a free agent visit. The former fourth round pick

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Speaker 2: Well, let's not forget this is year three for Shane

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Speaker 1: And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think there are going to be some guys that

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Speaker 3: Now it'll probably be have something to do with how

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Speaker 7: Ravens and through the season, who's ready now to do that?

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Speaker 7: Who might be ready down the line here and who

437
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Speaker 7: can develop in that regard and then who not be ready?

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Speaker 7: You know, So you're looking for in that game as

439
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Speaker 7: you pull it apart, unpack it, who can win one

440
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Speaker 7: on one matchups as well, and who's ready to do

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Speaker 7: that and who may be able to develop that down

442
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Speaker 7: the road here. So, but where where we're at as

443
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Speaker 7: a football team is continuing to get more and more

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Speaker 7: comfortable with and it's important with our systems, with the

445
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Speaker 7: fundamentals that we need to execute and get on the

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Speaker 7: same page with some of those other areas.

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Speaker 8: When you looked back at the film from the game,

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Speaker 8: was there anything that shout out to you that wasn't

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Speaker 8: immediately kind of notable when we're just watching it live,

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Speaker 8: like let's sit out.

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Speaker 3: On the rewatch.

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Speaker 7: Well, I saw some some really good moments in the game,

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Speaker 7: not reflected in the score, which is a separate conversation,

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Speaker 7: but things that we can that we can double down

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Speaker 7: on that we're good some individual fundamentals, individual efforts.

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Speaker 9: So you try, you try and go.

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Speaker 7: Back and say, hey, let's look at those again and say,

458
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Speaker 7: you know, basically, continue to establish the standard and establish

459
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Speaker 7: what we need and what we're looking for and whether

460
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Speaker 7: it's fundamentally execution wise, technique wise, understanding of the system,

461
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Speaker 7: understanding of the scheme. So those are things we try

462
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Speaker 7: and pull out to show the players so they can

463
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Speaker 7: continue to get a better feel for what.

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Speaker 9: It is exactly we're looking for.

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Speaker 7: And then these things over here are are things that

466
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Speaker 7: we can't we can't do in particular penalties not knowing

467
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Speaker 7: the system, not knowing what we're trying to get done,

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Speaker 7: so on and so forth.

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Speaker 10: You have several receivers who are competing for a still

470
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Speaker 10: on the fifty three, you know, lower on the deptrip.

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Speaker 10: How do you feel about, you know, how that group is,

472
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Speaker 10: you know what they've been able to show you how

473
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Speaker 10: difficult was it to evaluate them just based on the

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Speaker 10: way that that game went in.

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Speaker 7: Chicago with the wide receiver rob receiving core. You know,

476
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Speaker 7: we've got a number of guys and it's really trying

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Speaker 7: to figure out you know, I think we got a

478
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Speaker 7: pretty good feel for you know, one, two, three, But

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Speaker 7: who's four five six, four five sixty seven, who's four

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Speaker 7: five six who's four and five?

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Speaker 9: Is it five and four or four? And you know

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Speaker 9: what I mean.

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Speaker 7: So it's you know, once you get kind of after

484
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Speaker 7: that third group, that third person there, it's trying to

485
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Speaker 7: figure out who the rest of them are and how

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Speaker 7: they can help us, not only on offense, but on

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Speaker 7: special teams, and how we can ensure if we if

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Speaker 7: we have someone you know, not going to go down,

489
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Speaker 7: that we have the right person, profile, size, speed, whatever

490
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Speaker 7: it is to to make sure we don't you know,

491
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Speaker 7: drop too far with that next spot. So always trying

492
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Speaker 7: to maneuver, figure out the puzzle of the roster this

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Speaker 7: time of year and the numbers and how it's going

494
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Speaker 7: to affect special teams and vice versa.

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Speaker 2: Don how do you juggle a guy like Tyrrel Shapers

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Speaker 2: who's been available, who's been showing you stuff with someone

497
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Speaker 2: like Curtis who's.

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Speaker 5: Been on the bend and we haven't even though you

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Speaker 5: can know.

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Speaker 10: His history as a player this training camp in the preseason,

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Speaker 10: he hasn't been available.

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Speaker 5: He juggle those.

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Speaker 9: Valuations, Well, that is that's real.

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Speaker 7: You know, you try and look at everything through the

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Speaker 7: truth window and say this is what we know, this

506
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Speaker 7: is who this player is. And what they've shown us

507
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Speaker 7: this year. You try and also look back at the

508
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Speaker 7: history a little bit too, and say, you know, what

509
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Speaker 7: is the history said to us? And how is that

510
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Speaker 7: spoken to us? And and so you try and put

511
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Speaker 7: it all together. It's not easy to do, and it's

512
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Speaker 7: never always the same from one case to another, but

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Speaker 7: you try and say, what do we know right now,

514
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Speaker 7: right from from this camp, and because sometimes that's that's,

515
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Speaker 7: you know, all you can evaluate, especially when someone hasn't

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Speaker 7: taken a lot of reps, whether it's Curtis or some

517
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Speaker 7: of the other guys that have just not been able

518
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Speaker 7: to rep to camp to this point through camp.

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Speaker 5: Same thing with somebody like Cold.

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Speaker 6: You talk about time one task and you know, getting

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Speaker 6: guys ready, and then there's the urgency of getting ready

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Speaker 6: for the season. So evaluating him and where you guys

523
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Speaker 6: are in the preseason, where do you stand and is

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Speaker 6: there a different window for him in terms of him

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Speaker 6: leading those more reps before he can truly be evaluated.

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Speaker 7: You're asking a lot there in more than one question, probably,

527
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Speaker 7: and I think there's probably you know, more than one

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Speaker 7: answer in terms of the answers to your multiple questions.

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Speaker 7: And I really feel like Cole. From the time he's

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Speaker 7: come back, it's just been a short runway to this point.

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Speaker 9: He continues to improve.

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Speaker 7: There's so many subtle things that come up, even in

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Speaker 7: the practice the other day against the Bears, that look

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Speaker 7: like a good practice, and then there's a little thing

535
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Speaker 7: here that had he not practiced, right, had he not practiced,

536
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Speaker 7: he would not have experienced. So that adds callous to

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Speaker 7: his experience and his resume, if you will, you know,

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Speaker 7: he has shown to this point that the ability, the

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Speaker 7: skill level can be there.

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Speaker 9: We're just not there yet.

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Speaker 7: And so his refining process, if you will, Mike goes

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Speaker 7: one day at a time, one rep at a time,

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Speaker 7: and again this we're just kind of getting started because

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Speaker 7: of what wasn't with his availability, you know, again affects that.

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Speaker 11: So, John, how do you feel, I'm sorry, how do

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Speaker 11: you feel about the position overall? You know, I know

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Speaker 11: sometimes we're in here and you talk about what Michael

548
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Speaker 11: and Jordan.

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Speaker 5: Meant, and you know it was a position.

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Speaker 11: We didn't really talk about it a lot for years

551
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Speaker 11: because we didn't have to, but now we seem to

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Speaker 11: be doing it a lot. How do you just feel

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Speaker 11: about the position?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're looking for. I think we're looking

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Speaker 7: for that that other safety to play alongside a Trap.

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Speaker 7: There's been really good moments for all those guys back there,

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Speaker 7: young and some of the more veteran guys that are

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Speaker 7: back there that have played for us. But but I

559
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Speaker 7: think we're still looking to find who is it going

560
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Speaker 7: to be right and and how consistent can they become

561
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Speaker 7: and how quickly can they grow if they're a younger player,

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Speaker 7: And so you're always looking to, you know, figure out

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Speaker 7: figure that other piece out Right now for us, we

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Speaker 7: know who t Rap is, we know what he brings

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Speaker 7: to the table. It's what other piece can go along

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Speaker 7: with can go along with Trap.

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Speaker 11: And with what it comes to Joe follow it did

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Speaker 11: just on George Hancock. You know you mentioned him as

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Speaker 11: a player who's not available. I know he was playing

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Speaker 11: safety snaps and nickel snaps for you guys. But what

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Speaker 11: is the kind of like prognosis, is that more of

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Speaker 11: a short term injury or something that you think could

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Speaker 11: kind of leak for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 9: I don't know yet.

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Speaker 7: I think the early the early projection, if you will,

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Speaker 7: is may not make the game this weekend. You know,

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Speaker 7: so you know I thought he flashed in the game

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Speaker 7: the other night a little bit. Still a lot of

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Speaker 7: work to do, but now he's sidelined, so it's it's, uh,

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Speaker 7: we're kind of on a on a stop right.

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Speaker 1: Now with that.

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Speaker 2: So all right, that's head coach Sean McDermot addressing the

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Speaker 2: media last hour.

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Speaker 1: Now we're making you the coach.

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Speaker 2: How would you handle this week with the final preseason game?

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Speaker 2: You let us know what your plans are at eight

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Speaker 2: oh three zero five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five fifty. Those are the numbers to join us open

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Speaker 2: one Bill's Live, presented by co Lot of Health. It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio. You're the coach, how would you handle

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Speaker 2: this week with the final preseason game? Eight o three

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Speaker 2: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty

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Speaker 2: those are numbers to join us. Leading us off today

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Speaker 2: tom over on the west side, we got first.

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Speaker 4: Tom Good afternoon, guys. If I were the coach, what

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Speaker 4: I would do is I would start the starters on offense.

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Speaker 4: I would play him one series. If they score a touchdown,

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Speaker 4: they set then you get start subbing in your second

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Speaker 4: and third stringers, and I would start to Drubisky over

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Speaker 4: White because White looked good in the second half of

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Speaker 4: the first game, but he was playing against all the

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Speaker 4: third and four stringers, so he did not look good.

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Speaker 4: At Chicago game, Tribbiski looked much better. So I think

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Speaker 4: Tribbisky is going to be the backup on defense. I

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Speaker 4: would leave them on the field for the first half,

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Speaker 4: and you're gonna be rotating guys in and out anyway,

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Speaker 4: so it's not like everybody's gonna play every snap in

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Speaker 4: the first half. But I would hope that the defense

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Speaker 4: is gonna show up better than they did last week.

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Speaker 4: Now I realized the Bills don't want to show their

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Speaker 4: hand to Baltimore before the opener, But the starters, they

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Speaker 4: really haven't been on the field together getting a lot

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Speaker 4: of reps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean correct, that's correct. In the preseason, not

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Speaker 2: a lot of time there. I mean, I think they

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Speaker 2: were trying to use the Friday joint practice with the

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Speaker 2: Bears as kind of a pseudo preseason game.

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Speaker 1: For a lot of their starters.

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Speaker 2: Clearly they felt they got enough out of that because

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Speaker 2: none of the star almost none of the starters played

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Speaker 2: Sunday night. So to think they're gonna play now and

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Speaker 2: risk injury a week closer to the regular season, I'm

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Speaker 2: not convinced that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he might get him a series or something.

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Speaker 3: But I get what you mean. If they go in

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Speaker 3: score plays well, and the defense go ahead and let

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Speaker 3: them play and rotate in and out normally. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: seems that seems finger quotes safe enough. The Mitch Trubisky

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Speaker 3: Mike White competition, I'm not convinced yet that you should

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Speaker 3: pick one over the other. I thought Mike White played

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Speaker 3: really good in the second half, and as you said,

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Speaker 3: he was playing against the first game. In the first game,

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Speaker 3: and then this last game, he was playing against the

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Speaker 3: ones with the threes. So if you're gonna give him

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Speaker 3: credit or take credit away from his second half performance

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Speaker 3: against the Giants, give him some slack for what he

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Speaker 3: was going through with the guys he was playing with

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Speaker 3: in the first half of the Bears game. So and

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Speaker 3: Trubisky the same thing. I didn't think either one of

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Speaker 3: them quitted themselves extremely well in Chicago game. They didn't

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Speaker 3: convert a third down or a fourth down, So neither

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Speaker 3: guy played any better than the other, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: in that Chicago game. So I still think that job's

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Speaker 3: up for grabs. I know some people are preoccupied with

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Speaker 3: who's going to back Josh up. I'm not, but since

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Speaker 3: you brought it up, that's where I stand on it.

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Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, we go to Al in Buffalo next.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Al?

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Speaker 12: Hey, guys, I don't thieve they have to change anything.

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Speaker 12: From all accounts, they got all their work and done

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Speaker 12: on Thursday or on Friday, and that practice they flew

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Speaker 12: in there Thursday, they had two days of sitting around

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Speaker 12: a hotel. I was not surprised about what happened Sunday night.

656
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 12: None of the starters played, so obviously they got all

657
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 12: their work in accomplished on Friday. Well, I don't understand

658
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 12: why we're like in an uproar here about what's going

659
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 12: on with the Bills.

660
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, Al. Losing is one thing, embarrassment is another,

661
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: and not even looking functional is separate from that. But

662
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying. You're right, and we talked

663
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: about it yesterday. I said it last week before the

664
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: Friday joint practice, before Brownie left town to go with

665
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: the team. The Bears are gonna throw some assets at

666
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: that game and look good doing it. That was their goal.

667
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: The Bills was just the opposite. They wanted. They didn't

668
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: even want to play that game. I mean that that's

669
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: how that's how that game was. The Bears needed to

670
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: win it, and the Bills didn't even care if they

671
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: played it because they're all their work, like you say,

672
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: was done on Friday they were. I mean, I mean

673
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: the lineup was unrecognizable as a Buffalo Bills lineup. Unrecogn

674
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't the ones, it wasn't the twos, it was

675
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: the threes all game.

676
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: So based on Al's phone call, I'm guessing he's not

677
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: gonna do any major changes to the preseason for now.

678
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what their plan was the beginning of

679
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 3: the preseason. So maybe they were thinking, Okay, we're gonna

680
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: go we're gonna play this game and this game is

681
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: on this game Saturday this week or is it a

682
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: Sunday game, Saturday Saturday game, right, and you know, maybe

683
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: they they just say, hey, we're gonna play. We're gonna

684
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: play the guys for a series and then pull it,

685
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: sit them down, or maybe we're gonna say no, it's

686
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 3: gonna be just like the Chicago game. We're gonna throw

687
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 3: the last guys fighting for a roster spot. Let him go.

688
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what their plan was to begin with,

689
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: but I am with al. Don't change it over that

690
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 3: game in Chicago.

691
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: You're the coach, how would you handle this week's final

692
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: preseason game? Eight O three oh five fifty one eighty

693
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty the number to get

694
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: on board?

695
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: Got open lines for you. But we go to Butcher

696
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: on the East Side next. What's up?

697
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 13: Butch My brother's from another beautiful mother. Thanks taking my call.

698
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 13: I love him as glve w J and to all

699
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 13: the fans from listen and watch this show, I definitely

700
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 13: love you. I'm gonna get right to it, gentlemen, and

701
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 13: you probably I want. I'm gonna say it like this.

702
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 13: I'm not jumping out the helicopter without a pairs. I'm

703
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 13: eighty second everyone, so I always keep my shoes with me,

704
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 13: So that's LOL. But what I'm about to say it

705
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 13: might sound different to other people, but I'm gonna be

706
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 13: realistic about what I'm gonna say. We have a gentleman

707
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 13: that's been on our roster when Stepan Diggs was here.

708
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 13: He was tutelage of Stephan Diggs to watch how to

709
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 13: run his routes stick he played wide receiver. You played

710
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 13: with the best. He played with Andre, you play with Lafton.

711
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 13: He played with a lot of players, even when you

712
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 13: got older. See you had younger players do that. You

713
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 13: know how you use your feetul and to get to

714
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 13: get away from a dB. I'm gonna say this, and

715
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 13: I'm gonna say it right now. I'm not talking about

716
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 13: the projection of Okay, I'm talking about right now as

717
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 13: a player, Terrell Shavers is better than better than, but

718
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 13: better than Kean cole Me right now, I'm not talking

719
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 13: about it is feeling from Diggs. You watch how you

720
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 13: get off the line, you watch how you play. I'm

721
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 13: just saying this, sometimes we have to stop looking at

722
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 13: what we draft, how much money we pay people, and

723
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 13: look at the talent or we have to win immediately.

724
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 13: I'm not saying Kenny Covid might be the best receiving

725
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 13: history of boutlo bills. He might be very Eric moles

726
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 13: Andre reed one day. I'm just speaking about right now,

727
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 13: Terrelle Shavers right now is over keyon Covian right now,

728
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 13: based off route running based on knowing where he's supposed

729
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 13: to be, based off doing that playbook. I watch How

730
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 13: You Know How to Do Faith. I can't wait for

731
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 13: him and Josh Allen on regular game day to get

732
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 13: together and do their damnage. But anyway, I love you guys,

733
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 13: Thanks for taking my call. You guys are my brothers.

734
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 13: I love you for life and I appreciate.

735
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 3: You all right. Thanks. You can pick your horse if

736
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: you want. I don't know. Maybe you watch practice and

737
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 3: I get it. Shavers is a great story. You want

738
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: him to make it. And he's been hanging around the

739
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: building for a long time, and he's made some plays

740
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: when he's been in there and had an opportunity, he's

741
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: played really well and has flashed.

742
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: One of the few guys to make plays Sunday nights.

743
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: That's right, Keon is not playing in the game in

744
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 3: Chicago for a reason. It ain't because he's hurt. I think,

745
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: I do not think, forget what I think. I don't

746
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: believe the Bill's coaching staff agrees with you about Shavers.

747
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: I think they like Keon a lot, I think, and

748
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: they see him every day. They're in meetings with him.

749
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: So the stuff about route running and about knowing his

750
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: plays and doing I don't know, and.

751
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell you. In the Friday joint practice,

752
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: Keon played very well, had a highlight reel touchdown, had

753
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 2: another touchdown, kind of had his way with the bear

754
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: secondary with Josh throwing to him. I would say in

755
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: the last week or two he has really come on

756
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: and emerged in the practice setting. So I am very

757
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: encouraged about the regular season as far as Keon Coleman goes.

758
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: And then with respect to Shavers, I think he's fighting

759
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 2: for one of the last spots in the receiving corps.

760
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: It's interesting that they're trying to find a role for

761
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: him on special teams. So he only played on one

762
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: of the four units in the first preseason game, and

763
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: they tried to work him on a couple of units

764
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: Sunday because if you're receiver five or six, you have

765
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: to make an impact there. And Laviska Chanault one of

766
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: his chief competitors for one of the last receiver spots.

767
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: He plays everything on special teams.

768
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: And he's more versatile offensively.

769
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: And he's more versatile offensively.

770
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean he's a better wide receiver. He doesn't

771
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: line up and go. But he does more for him.

772
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: And at the bottom of the roster, the receiving corps,

773
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: you need somebody to fill in a bunch of different

774
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: spots because you don't know who is gonna get hurt.

775
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're receiver five or six, you have to

776
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: be a multifaceted Swiss Army knife kind of player.

777
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: And as always, Butcher cut covers a lot of stuff.

778
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 3: Don't think just because Keon's the first or the first

779
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 3: pick of last year's draft, second round pick last year,

780
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 3: that they're they're throwing stuff at him that he hasn't earned.

781
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: This is that doesn't fly. That's not the way it

782
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: works here. And people still think that because you know

783
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: Max Harrison got draft from the first round. He's automatically

784
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: gonna line up and play. You know, ask Kyrie Elam

785
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: how that works and Christian Benford. It's the same thing

786
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball. You get what

787
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: you earn it. And I'll say this, it's conspicuous how

788
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: much ke Keon Coleman has earned from this coaching step

789
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: by the fact that they don't want him on the

790
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 3: field in this preseason game gets Chicago and he he's

791
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: he's good. So that's what they think about him. The

792
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: way they treat him tells you everything how they value him.

793
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: Terrell Shavers is still out there busting a gut. Keon's

794
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: already set. And you don't get that just given to you.

795
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: Not in this culture, believe me. And I know it

796
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: looks like that sometimes and you think people get It's

797
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: not that way, Keon. They earn what they get. And

798
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: you know, if you're out there in a Chicago game

799
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: and you're and everybody's getting their heads handed to them

800
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: and you're out there, you're out there for a reason.

801
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: It's because somebody else has earned a chance to sit down,

802
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: because they practice well and they earn the coaches trust.

803
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 3: So these guys get what they earned. Don't think Keon's

804
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 3: getting it given to him because he was a second

805
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 3: round pick.

806
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: Gotta take a break here.

807
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: More of your phone calls when we come back, So

808
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: if you're holding an eight oh three oh five fifty,

809
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: stay right where you are.

810
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: We'll get to you when we return.

811
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colia Health, It's

812
00:41:45,520 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right back here on One Bill's Live,

813
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: asking you to be the coach what are your plans

814
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: for this final preseason game for the Bills? Eight O

815
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: three H five fifty And back to the phones, we

816
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: go into Kathy in Rochester.

817
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: What's up, Kathy?

818
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 14: Yeah? Hi, really not a what your topic is, but

819
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 14: something that I've been on my mind since Oh geez

820
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 14: when we let him go with Mari Cooper. I understand.

821
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 14: I mean he's older, but he did so much last year.

822
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 14: I mean I watched highlight reels every day till the

823
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 14: regular season gets started, and he was in almost I mean,

824
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 14: he had so many good plays and I think he

825
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 14: brought a lot more than just that to the team.

826
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 14: And I was wondering was it just a money thing

827
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 14: or his age, because I mean it kind of makes

828
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 14: me wonder. I mean, Joey Bose is a great player,

829
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 14: but he's not too lucky in and staying healthy and stuff.

830
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 14: And I always wonder what, just exactly what made us

831
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 14: get leave him.

832
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a valid question, Kathy, And thanks

833
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: for the call.

834
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: I would say that.

835
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: When they acquired him via trade mid season last year,

836
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: I think what they were hoping the end product would

837
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: be would be much more productive than it was. You know,

838
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: I think he finished with two hundred and fifty some

839
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: odd yards receiving.

840
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: He had a couple of touchdown grabs.

841
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: You know, I think they were looking for a bigger

842
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: impact from him and they flat out did not get it.

843
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, a thing more consistently, no question. He made some

844
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: plays for me. He looked think the first third down

845
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 3: against the Chiefs in the stadium here where they beat

846
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: him in the regular season, where he made the one

847
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 3: handed catch with the cast on his thumb. He did

848
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: make some plays for the Bills. I think it's hard

849
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: to say why they didn't bring him back. I will

850
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: say this, He's still out there, so that'll tell you

851
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: something about what the league thinks about what he has

852
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: left in the tank. And he was available halfway through

853
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 3: the season. So I think the Bills like the upside

854
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: of the guys they brought in better, Kathy, That's what

855
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 3: I think. I think they them right. And I think

856
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: they may like Keon and his development. I mean, nope,

857
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 3: I know this too. And and Butch he called in

858
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: a minute ago and talked about, how you know, Terrell

859
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: Shavers has had a pretty good preseason. The thing that

860
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: you don't see is, you know, these guys are practicing

861
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: and Keon Coleman has elevated significantly from where he was

862
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: a year ago at this time, significant.

863
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: Especially in the last week plus, and.

864
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: So I I think they really and I think they

865
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: saw that coming. I thought, I think this coaching staff

866
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: got to know who Keon and what Keon was. Last year,

867
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: his wrist injury derailed his season. We all know that,

868
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: but he came back and had some moments as well.

869
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: I think they really liked what they're getting from him

870
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 3: off the field in the meetings and in the weight

871
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: room and in the feedback from the assistant coaches, and

872
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: I think they they put some I put that they

873
00:44:59,200 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: put some investment in.

874
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you have Cooper here, you run the

875
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: risk of stunting that growth because now Cooper is getting

876
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: reps as a veteran receiver right that younger players are not.

877
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: And so I think they felt with the deck cleared,

878
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: Keon could really emerge and we're seeing that in the

879
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: training camp setting. Let's go to Ryan in Toronto and next,

880
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: what's up?

881
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: Ryan?

882
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 15: Cause Steve love the show, but I gotta disagree with you, guys.

883
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 15: I love Bush's take on Coleman and compare to Shavers. Yeah, Shavers,

884
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 15: didn't I say that? Be honest, Do you rather have

885
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 15: a healthy wide receiver who's giving numbers right now than

886
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 15: an injured player? No? Do you really think this whole

887
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 15: a wide receiving clue is going to be able to

888
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 15: beat the Ravens in Week one? I don't think so. Secondly,

889
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 15: what about Matt Collins? Why did they Bills let him go?

890
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 15: Look at him white? Now leaving what touchdown was scored

891
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 15: up for the Bills last season? We are hanging on

892
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 15: to this guy named Curtis Samuel. Could abandon be made

893
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 15: a bonehead signing with him? Now he's stuck with him.

894
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 15: You cannot tade him because we can take a huge

895
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 15: batter hit on the cap. And this was the whole

896
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 15: why the course right now? You look at safetyes looking

897
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 15: at teams. Are business going to be playing against Cincinnati, Philly, Casey?

898
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 15: All these teams have weapons? Do you do you really

899
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 15: think the safetyam is going to be able to keep

900
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 15: up with this whide receivers? No way. This team has

901
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 15: to be changed a lot. And you got what ten

902
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 15: days for twelve two weeks to figure it out. Come on,

903
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 15: and Chris, you can keep talking about the joint practice.

904
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 15: How Coleman did so well and joing practice against Chicago

905
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 15: with Chicago, that's great, And why dog the concerns? Then?

906
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 15: Why why why are we comparing preseason games. Let it

907
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 15: be if they did a really good job in the

908
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 15: preseason and at the joint practice, let it be done.

909
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: What do you mean let do you mean let lay

910
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: on Sunday? Or I think I don't know he was

911
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: getting at there?

912
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: Let it be? Then does that mean let him play

913
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: on Sunday? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what

914
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: you were getting at there, Ryan.

915
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: I mean Coleman's looked good, particularly in the last week

916
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: or two. I mean he's dominating in the practice setting.

917
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: He's out leaping every cornerback on the roster, and he

918
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: made plays against the Bears.

919
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Mac Collins. Hey, a lot of people were

920
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: said to see Mac co He was a great guy.

921
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: Loved him on the team. He added a little spark

922
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: to the offense, and he played more snaps at wide

923
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: receiver than anybody else because of his ability to block

924
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: in the run game. And the Bills are running at

925
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: you know, forty nine percent of the time, you need

926
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: a guy like that out there. They may be looking

927
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: to have somebody like that out there. Maybe Coleman's going

928
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: to be that guy. I don't know, but yeah, Mac Collins, listen,

929
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: he was a free agent. He took a quick deal

930
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 3: with the New England Patriots. That was it. And it

931
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: was a it was a one year deal, you know, it.

932
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: Wasn't it was a multi year deal. That's why he signed.

933
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: They had more cap space than anybody in the league,

934
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: and they overpaid for him and probably paid him four

935
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: times the amount that the Bills were willing.

936
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's he signed a really big deal with

937
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: New England. And yeah, I don't know. It's a little

938
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: early to say that Keon Coleman is injury prone as

939
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 3: opposed to Tyrell Shavers, but you know, I get it.

940
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: I would ask a lot of people I was looking

941
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: at this from last year, you liked this group of

942
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: wide receivers at this point, not knowing what we didn't

943
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: know last year and knowing what we know this year deal,

944
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: are you better off in this wide receiver room with Coleman, Shakir,

945
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: with Palmer, Samuel More and all those guys than you

946
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: were last year with Mac Collins, Khalil Shakir and Coleman,

947
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: and then you had Cooper right and last year you

948
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 3: also had Marquez Valdez scantling for five games, six games.

949
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: Jalen Vergil was on it. Got had some snaps, Tyrell

950
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: Shaver's got some snaps kJ Ham. It's it's not that different.

951
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: But we didn't. We were supposed to finish third or

952
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: fourth last year in the division with a group that

953
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: I think is below expectations of this group. So I

954
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: don't know. I get the Shaver's love, no question about it,

955
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: but don't it doesn't need to be at the expense

956
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: of key On. It is. The two can be mutually exclusive.

957
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: I think you got to trust what they're seeing and

958
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: what they think.

959
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: It's not an either or situation. It's just the way

960
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: it is.

961
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: And Keon is physically superior to every other receiver on

962
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: this roster in my estimation, it's not close.

963
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: Got to take a break here. When we come back.

964
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: Second hour, the show begins with our good friend Greg Coseel,

965
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 2: senior producer from NFL Films. We're going to ask him

966
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: to pick apart some of the individual performances from the

967
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: Chicago preseason game. It's, despite what you might believe, there

968
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: were some bright spots individually amongst some players. We'll go

969
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 2: over those with Greg next here on One Bill's Live,

970
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: presented by a lot of hell It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

971
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 3: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

972
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: All right, second hour here Chris Brown, Steve Tasker on

973
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: a Tuesday One Bill's Live. Thanks for joining us and

974
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: also joining us here for the second hour the show.

975
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: Senior producer from NFL Films, Greg co Sel, also co

976
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: host the ESPNS NFL Matchup Show's kind of go over

977
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: the progress made by some of the players on the

978
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: roster of late and Greg is always thanks for giving

979
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: us some time. I would say that it was interesting

980
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 2: to note that in a horrible preseason outcome, all three

981
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 2: of Buffalo's drafted defensive lineman flashed. You noticed them in

982
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: this game, you know, even though the defense as a

983
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: whole probably didn't play all that well.

984
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: But TJ.

985
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: Sanders flashed again on the pass rush, So two did

986
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: Dion Walker and Landon Jackson coming off the edge had

987
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: a couple of plays where you're like, oh, there he is.

988
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of curious for your thoughts on that,

989
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: knowing that you know, with Ogunjobi and Hoyt going on

990
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: reserve suspended. When we get down to fifty three, these

991
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: guys are gonna have to play.

992
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I watched.

993
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 16: I think Jackson played thirty seven snaps and the other two,

994
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 16: Sanders and Walker each played over thirty, so they got

995
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 16: a lot.

996
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 5: Of work in.

997
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 16: You know, we spoke about this last week, and you know,

998
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 16: I'm just really curious to see it develop. But Walker

999
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 16: again just showed that tendency to play two up right

1000
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 16: off the snap. And the thing is, he's so gifted

1001
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 16: in terms of athletic traits for a man that size

1002
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 16: that if he can just consistently play a little lower,

1003
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 16: you know, I think there's so much there to work with.

1004
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 16: And I you know, it's just again, I'm not a coach.

1005
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 16: I'm not a defensive line coach, so I'm not going

1006
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 16: to speak as if I know the answer to that question. Steve,

1007
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 16: you may have a better way to respond to that

1008
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 16: than I. But the one thing we do know is

1009
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 16: that if you do play upright, it doesn't matter how

1010
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 16: strong or how gifted you are in this league, you're

1011
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 16: going to have a tough time. But you're right, he

1012
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 16: did have some positive plays, But you know, that's the

1013
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 16: only thing about him that will concern me.

1014
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would agree. He's so tall, and he's

1015
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 3: got some long legs. He is really athletic, is Dion Walker. Yeah,

1016
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 3: but if he if you bend your knees and get

1017
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 3: a little more leverage, your size and weight just makes

1018
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: it that exponentially more difficult to stop you. Yeah, when

1019
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: he gets it going. And I like the way he

1020
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 3: rushes too. He doesn't rush like a big heavy He's

1021
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 3: rushing with a little bit of hand movement and trying

1022
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: to slap guys off and trying to get slippery in

1023
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 3: some wiggle eye, which is a little different than most

1024
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 3: big guys.

1025
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 16: No, it's funny you say that too, because I watched him. Obviously,

1026
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 16: I watched him this past summer with his tape from

1027
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 16: twenty twenty four, but I watched him last summer with

1028
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 16: his twenty twenty three tape, and I came away watching

1029
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 16: that thinking that if this guy had a really good

1030
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 16: final the year at Kentucky, that this guy could be

1031
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 16: a top twenty pick in the draft. And obviously the

1032
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 16: year wasn't quite as good, and some of the warts

1033
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 16: in his game showed up which is why he ended

1034
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 16: up being drafted in the fourth round. But you know,

1035
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 16: there's a lot there. I'm just really curious to see

1036
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 16: if it can come together. The other hand, Sanders, I

1037
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 16: think he again showed really well. And Brownie, I know

1038
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 16: you remember because you remember all this stuff, but you know,

1039
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 16: we talked about him leading up to the draft and

1040
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 16: even when they drafted him, and I really liked his

1041
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 16: tape a lot coming out of South Carolina, and that

1042
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 16: the thing I always liked to see and I think

1043
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 16: it's always a positive sign. And I'm not going to

1044
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 16: sit here and say this means he'll be a great player.

1045
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 16: You know, none of us know the answer to that question.

1046
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 16: But he looked similar to the way he played in college,

1047
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 16: and I always think that's a good sign for a

1048
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 16: young player that the traits that they showed in college,

1049
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 16: they could come into the league and they still can

1050
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 16: show those traits because he's got really good quickness off

1051
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 16: the ball. I thought he showed a little bull rush power.

1052
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 16: He showed a one armed stab as a pass rusher,

1053
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 16: because I think his game coming out of South Carolina

1054
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 16: was built more on quickness than pure power. But he's

1055
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 16: going to need some power, So that was a positive

1056
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 16: sign watching the tape.

1057
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then with Jackson.

1058
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 2: I mean even coach McDermott today said that he felt

1059
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: that landed and proved from game one to game two.

1060
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: And I think if.

1061
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: You watched him in game one, it almost appeared like

1062
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: he had too many thoughts running through his head. He

1063
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: was so wrapped up in what his assignment was. I

1064
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 2: think it compromised him just playing free. And I think

1065
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: we saw a little more of that freedom in his

1066
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 2: game against the Bears.

1067
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 5: And I think he's moving in that direction.

1068
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 16: I still think he's thinking about it a little too

1069
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 16: much because he knows how to use his long arms,

1070
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 16: and you're not seeing that quite as much. You saw

1071
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 16: it on a couple of snaps, but I remember in

1072
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 16: college he showed that constantly. In fact, he had dominant,

1073
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 16: dominant snaps against Will Campbell when they played LSU, and in

1074
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 16: fact beat Campbell a number of times, and he used

1075
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 16: his arm length. My sense is he's still thinking a

1076
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 16: little bit through the process of how to rush the quarterback,

1077
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 16: you know, And I think that's normal because now you're

1078
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 16: playing at a higher level. You know, you probably in

1079
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 16: your mind think, well, it's not quite is going to

1080
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 16: be as easy as it was. Not that it was

1081
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 16: easy in college, but it's going to be harder. But

1082
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 16: I think there's a lot there to him. The one

1083
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 16: thing that always shows up guys, and you know this

1084
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 16: is the guy plays hard. And I think that's a

1085
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 16: great starting point because a lot of defense very often

1086
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 16: is not you know, looking pretty, it's just playing with tenacity, competitiveness.

1087
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 16: And you know, there are more sacks made in the NFL,

1088
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 16: sort of second reaction sacks.

1089
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 5: Than when you just beat a guy right away.

1090
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 16: You know, that doesn't happen as often in the NFL

1091
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 16: as as people might think.

1092
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 3: So the Bills are also still and even Michelle McDermott

1093
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 3: referred to it today in his press conference that they're

1094
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: still looking for the guy to start next to Jordan,

1095
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: I mean to Taylor Rap at safety. Last this last

1096
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 3: game against Chicago, Jordan Hancock got some reps in there

1097
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: and unfortunately it ended a little early because he got

1098
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: his shoulder dad and he left. But Hancock is a

1099
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: guy that Brownie and I have been watching. He seems

1100
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: athlete enough to be back there, and they had a

1101
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 3: timetable and we've talked about a lot where corner nickel

1102
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: safety at a time to when they were going to

1103
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 3: sort through all of that. His versatility is why he

1104
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: got drafted. What did you see in his short time

1105
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 3: on the field the other night.

1106
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 16: Yeah, and I'll tell you what, for two games, I

1107
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 16: think what we've seen is just how aggressive he is.

1108
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 16: He's got a quick trigger. Playing downhill, He's very aggressive.

1109
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 16: You know, he played on the back end as well.

1110
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 16: He did that at Ohio State. You know, I know

1111
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 16: he got hurt. I don't know the nature of the injuries,

1112
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 16: so I don't know if that means, you know, again

1113
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 16: he could sit out the last game. That doesn't mean

1114
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 16: he's not ready week one or again he's a later

1115
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 16: round pick, So we don't even know what they think

1116
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 16: of him or I certainly don't know that you guys

1117
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 16: would know better. But I liked him coming out and

1118
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 16: I thought that he could play in the league. You know,

1119
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 16: It's funny there was another safety at Ohio State the

1120
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 16: year before, named Ronnie Hickman, who's now going to start

1121
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 16: for the Browns this year, and in some ways I

1122
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 16: thought they were similar kind of prospects. I think Hancock

1123
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 16: can play in the league, and it would not surprise

1124
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 16: me if he ends up as a starting player somewhere

1125
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 16: down the line. We still don't have a good read

1126
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 16: on Cold Bishop. He only played eleven twelve snaps. I

1127
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 16: think he played all the snaps that Caleb Williams played.

1128
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 5: You can't really.

1129
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 16: Get on him for being beat on the touchdown because

1130
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 16: that was a great play call with a switch release

1131
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 16: and he was matched on a wide receiver and he

1132
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 16: was out leveraged. It's hard to, you know, say that,

1133
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 16: oh boy, that means he can't play. And there was

1134
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 16: even one other snap when the ball wasn't thrown or

1135
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 16: he was matched up on a doomsday when he was

1136
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 16: number three to trips.

1137
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 5: But for the most.

1138
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 16: Part he was playing on the back end and you

1139
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 16: just didn't see You didn't see a lot of action.

1140
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 16: So it's hard to get a read in the games. Again,

1141
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 16: I'm not in practice, but it's hard to get a

1142
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 16: read in the game as to what Cold Bishop you

1143
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 16: know is at this point.

1144
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the problem is he had just come back

1145
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: from a quad injury, so he was on a pitch

1146
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: count on that game. They wanted to hold him to

1147
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: twelve snaps and that's exactly what he played in the game.

1148
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball.

1149
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: I just think, you know, we're two and a half

1150
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: weeks from the opener and they don't They still don't

1151
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: have a defined answer as to who the other safety

1152
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: is going to be, and you can tell it's causing

1153
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: some angst among the defensive staff another passage.

1154
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 5: As it should, I mean, particularly with who they opened with.

1155
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: The other guy that has been all over the field

1156
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: the first two preseason games has been Michael Hoyd, and

1157
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: I think the reason he got so many snaps last

1158
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: Sunday was because they know he's not playing in the

1159
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: first six games. So it's almost like, yeah, let's get

1160
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: him into as much game shape as we can now

1161
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: while he can play.

1162
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: But he has been a menace the first two games.

1163
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 16: You know what's interesting to me though, and you know,

1164
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 16: is he's essentially playing defensive end and you know, look,

1165
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 16: we know that the Bills play essentially a four man

1166
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 16: D line. You know where he came from with the Rams,

1167
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 16: he was used in a much more versatile way. Again,

1168
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 16: we don't know what's going to happen when the season starts,

1169
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 16: you know, and obviously he's not going to play the

1170
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 16: first six games, so we don't know what happens when

1171
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 16: he comes back. But uh, you know, one of the

1172
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 16: reasons I thought he was such a good player with

1173
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 16: the Rams was that versatility and the position flex ability. Again,

1174
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 16: we don't know what's going to happen. We don't know

1175
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 16: what their plan is for him. Because he can't play

1176
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 16: in the first six games. They're probably not worried about

1177
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 16: moving him all around in the preseason. They just want

1178
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 16: to get him snaps, as you said, Brownie, But I'm

1179
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 16: really curious. It's not that he can't rush the quarterback.

1180
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 16: I mean, he did have a great pass rush that

1181
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 16: was against the tight end. So you know, sometimes when

1182
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 16: I see an age rusher beat a tight end, you know,

1183
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 16: that doesn't necessarily mean he's a great pass rusher. But

1184
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 16: holy can rush the quarterback. But he can do a

1185
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 16: lot of different things. So we'll see what happens when

1186
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 16: he comes back. I mean that's a ways down the road.

1187
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 5: You know.

1188
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 16: That seems like, you know, five years from now when

1189
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 16: we're talking when they play week you know, game seven,

1190
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 16: you know.

1191
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: So we were talking just before we came on the

1192
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 3: air about you know this, it's hard to watch late

1193
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: in these games, these preseason games. So was there anything

1194
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 3: about this Bills Bears game. I mean, we had a

1195
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 3: therapy session here yesterday on our show trying to get

1196
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 3: through the aftermath of that game. What jumped out? Was

1197
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 3: there any positives, if any about that game? I mean,

1198
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 3: it was really tough to watch.

1199
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Speaker 16: Now, I you know, look the games. I don't mean

1200
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 16: to not take these games seriously because you know, I've

1201
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 16: been to training camps in my career. Steve, You've been

1202
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 16: through all this, and you know how important they are

1203
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 16: for players, you know, players trying to make the team.

1204
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 16: So I don't want to disparage these games. But it's

1205
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 16: for me because I've become so focused a lot more

1206
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 16: on tactics and schematics. You know, in regular season games.

1207
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 16: They're harder games just for me to watch because you know,

1208
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 16: I'm not necessarily learning a lot about the schematics and

1209
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 16: the tactics. So you know, obviously, I made it a

1210
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 16: point to watch Caleb Williams closely because I know I'm

1211
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 16: going to be asked about him by everybody, So you know,

1212
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 16: obviously I wanted to watch him closely. But you know,

1213
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 16: as far as the Bills, you know, I don't think

1214
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 16: you can look at the score and haven't mean anything.

1215
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 5: I really don't like.

1216
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 16: You know, look last year in the first preseason game

1217
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 16: they lost to the Bears. I think they gave up

1218
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 16: over thirty points in that game, if memory serves me correctly.

1219
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 16: And you know, do the scores matter in these games?

1220
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 5: Sure?

1221
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 16: Do the coaches want the players who are playing to

1222
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 16: execute and.

1223
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:08,959
Speaker 5: Compete at a high level.

1224
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 16: Of course they do, and they matter to those players

1225
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 16: because I don't know, Yeah, I don't have the Bills

1226
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 16: roster right in front of me. You guys would know better, Brownie,

1227
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,959
Speaker 16: how many roster spots do you think are truly going

1228
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 16: to be up for grabs? Every team's different, But howay

1229
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 16: would you say are true for grabs?

1230
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: Seven or eight?

1231
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1232
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: So, I mean it's pretty long because.

1233
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 5: The Bills obviously are.

1234
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 16: Yeah, they're a really good team, and uh, you know,

1235
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 16: so those seven or eight matter to the players, I

1236
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 16: believe you. Like I said, I'm not disparaging that at all.

1237
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 16: But you know a lot of teams don't have a

1238
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 16: lot of roster spots that are up for grabs.

1239
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they matter to the players, they just don't matter

1240
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 3: to the team, I guess. Is the best way, right

1241
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 3: If there's a difference.

1242
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, what do you what do you make of

1243
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 2: this push by Tyrrel Shavers. He's shown up in both

1244
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: preseason games. He's trying to get one of those last

1245
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: receiver spots. And I think the thing that's kind of

1246
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: standing in the way here is they're having a tough

1247
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,479
Speaker 2: time finding a defined role for him on special teams, because,

1248
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: as you know, if you're the fifth or sixth receiver,

1249
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: you better help on special teams if you want a

1250
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: Jay Z on game day. And I think they're having

1251
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: a tough time finding where he fits in that phase

1252
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: of the game. But maybe just speak to what you've

1253
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: seen from him receiver wise.

1254
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 16: Well, one of the things, I mean, you're dealing with

1255
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 16: a guy that's long, athletic and can run, and you

1256
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 16: know he lined up outside. I mean we're looking at

1257
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 16: the play where he caught the back shoulder fade. I

1258
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 16: know he only had two catches, you know, but that's

1259
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 16: a back shoulder fate. He can line up outside, you know.

1260
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 16: I think Josh Allen likes those kinds of throws, you know,

1261
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 16: he likes to feel that his receivers can make these

1262
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 16: kinds of plays. And I think that's one reason they

1263
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 16: drafted keyon Coleman. You know, again, we'll see how the

1264
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 16: receiver position shakes out. My guess is they probably got

1265
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 16: you know, one, two and three probably you know, I

1266
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 16: would assume pretty much said when you say one, two

1267
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 16: and three would be Coleman, Shakir and Palmer. Yes, So

1268
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 16: I mean then you're dealing with who's four and five?

1269
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 16: You know four could get I mean this is from

1270
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 16: two weeks ago, and you can see. I mean, this

1271
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 16: guy can run a little bit, and he's got some

1272
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 16: stride lane. He can line up on the outside. I

1273
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 16: agree with you, he'd probably have to play special teams

1274
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 16: and special teams with the new rule, with the kickoff rules,

1275
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 16: you know, that's becoming more important than it has been

1276
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 16: in previous years. So there probably needs to be a

1277
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 16: place for him there. But you're dealing with a guy.

1278
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 16: And again, I'm not going to sit here and say

1279
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 16: if he played a lot he catched fifty balls for

1280
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 16: eight hundred yards. You know, none of us know the

1281
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 16: answer to that. But you know, those long athletic guys

1282
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 16: that can run. There's not one hundred of those guys.

1283
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 3: Right, And this is a team that we noticed last

1284
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 3: year the one thing that well on the defensive side.

1285
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 3: He went a little bit on the offense. You need

1286
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 3: a guy that can really take the lid off once

1287
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 3: in a while and can ye who can stretch it out.

1288
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: You got this quarterback with the arm and sometimes you

1289
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 3: never really feel like they air it out enough for

1290
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 3: the long I think that's one of the things that was

1291
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 3: missing from their game last year was the long ball.

1292
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 3: They hit too, but most of their big plays were

1293
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: short throw, long run and James Cook so he may

1294
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: give him something they've been looking for. Yeah.

1295
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 16: No, it's funny you say that because I just spent

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Speaker 16: the last couple of days. You know, I've been watching

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Speaker 16: all kinds of NFL stuff going back to last year

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Speaker 16: to be as well as some of the preseason stuff,

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Speaker 16: and I watched all of Jared Goth's fifteen plus yard completions,

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Speaker 16: and you see the impact that Jamison Williams has.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 16: Shaver's obviously is not Jameis and Williams. I'm not trying

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Speaker 16: to make a direct comparison, obviously. I'm just responding to you,

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Speaker 16: Steve that if you have a guy that can is

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Speaker 16: a vertical dimension, you know that changes everything in the

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Speaker 16: way you can design your passing game.

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Speaker 2: Just looking around the league, we got some quarterback decisions

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Speaker 2: that were made Greg Joe Flacco in Cleveland and then

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Speaker 2: today Daniel Jones in Indianapolis. We've seen Flacco in that system.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he came in and led him to the

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Speaker 2: playoffs a couple of years ago. What do you think

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Speaker 2: that Daniel Jones can do for the Colts offense with

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Speaker 2: Shane Stikeen.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think you guys know this.

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Speaker 16: You know, you've been around Steve, you certainly know what

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Speaker 16: having played you know, Brown, You've been around long enough

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Speaker 16: to know this. I think that coaches, no matter what

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Speaker 16: side of the ball you're on, they want to trust

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Speaker 16: their players, you know. And I think that while Daniel

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Speaker 16: Jones is no one's going to sit here and say, gee,

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Speaker 16: this guy's a top five quarterback in the league. I'm

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Speaker 16: sure the feeling is. And this is my sense of it.

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Speaker 16: You know, maybe I'm wrong, but my sense of it

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Speaker 16: is that they believe that they can line up Daniel

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Speaker 16: Jones and Stikan can call his game and he's going

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Speaker 16: to execute the game plan. Now, maybe it's not going

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Speaker 16: to be special, maybe it's not going to look unbelievable.

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Speaker 16: But I think that you have a trust factor, whereas

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Speaker 16: with Anthony Richardson, you have no idea what you're going

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Speaker 16: to get. Can he make special plays, absolutely, but you

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Speaker 16: just don't know. And I think for a coach, I

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Speaker 16: think there's nothing worse than going into a game feeling

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Speaker 16: you just don't know if the eighty hours or one

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Speaker 16: hundred hours or whatever number of hours these coaches spend

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Speaker 16: during the week game planning and putting things together is

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Speaker 16: going to be executed. They understand there are plays the

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Speaker 16: defense will win just because they win tactically or a

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Speaker 16: guy makes a play, but they want to feel that

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Speaker 16: their quarterback is going to go out there and execute

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Speaker 16: the plan play after play after play, and right now,

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Speaker 16: Anthony Richardson has just not shown the ability to do that.

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Speaker 16: And I think they just feel that Daniel Jones, even

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Speaker 16: though there's nothing quite unquote special about him, that he

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Speaker 16: can do that better.

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Speaker 3: You got a guy like Anthony Richardson, and we talked

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Speaker 3: about this. I think it's you can see a trend

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Speaker 3: in the NFL where Anthony Richardson came in with what

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Speaker 3: eleven or thirteen starts as a college quarterback and you've

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Speaker 3: got other quarterbacks coming out with thirty plus starts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Daniels and Nick said sixty.

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Speaker 3: Right, So you've got a it's just a better evaluation process.

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Speaker 3: And I think there's gonna be fewer and fewer teams

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Speaker 3: rolling the dice on a unicorn of an athlete that

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Speaker 3: they don't know about for a guy who they do

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Speaker 3: know about with a ton of film, and they know

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Speaker 3: exactly what they're getting, or at least a little more

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Speaker 3: accurately what they're getting.

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Speaker 16: Well, I think now because there's more quarterbacks that have

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Speaker 16: athletic ability, I think you get caught up in what's

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Speaker 16: the balance between quote unquote playmakers at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 16: because they can make special plays versus the ability to

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Speaker 16: line up and make throws from the pocket. Now, both

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Speaker 16: are factors, and you can't you can't say you have

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Speaker 16: to decide what you think is ultimately more important. I

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Speaker 16: think most coaches would say that the ability to throw

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Speaker 16: it from the pocket over the course of his season

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Speaker 16: is more important. But you get so enamored with the

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Speaker 16: guys that can make those special plays. You know it's

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Speaker 16: just it. It gets hard, but you know, Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 16: is not showing the ability to be consistent throwing the

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Speaker 16: ball from the pocket.

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Speaker 3: But it's not even you know, making a philosophical decision.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, you've got this guy or that guy.

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Speaker 3: It's how right, how much can this guy function in

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Speaker 3: the offense? And how special is this guy? And you

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Speaker 3: compare the two quarterback forget the forget the philosophy of

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Speaker 3: having an athletic quarterback, it's who can who can you

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Speaker 3: win with? And you think a guy like, yeah, these

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Speaker 3: guys in Cleveland, they owe it to the fifty two

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Speaker 3: guys on the roster, and the coaching stab in it

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Speaker 3: to give those guys the best chance to win. So

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Speaker 3: in Indianapolis they're looking at at you know, Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 3: and he's not special, but at least the other guys

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Speaker 3: get a chance to help.

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Speaker 16: I mean, I think the way coaches feel is that

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Speaker 16: if we put in a good game plan, and of

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Speaker 16: course coaches feel they're going to if we put in

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Speaker 16: a good game plan, that our quarterback's going to execute it.

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Speaker 5: And if they.

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Speaker 16: Don't feel good about the quarterbacks ability to execute it

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Speaker 16: snap after snap after snap, then they don't feel they

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Speaker 16: can trust him. That's the bottom line. I mean, I've

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Speaker 16: heard coaches talk like that all the time. We've got

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Speaker 16: to be able to trust the guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and that's what makes coaches breathe a little

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Speaker 2: easier on game day for sure. And Shane Steichens in

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Speaker 2: year three and he's got to make it happen. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there it is. Greg, Thanks as always for the time.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate. The next time we talk to you, we'll

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Speaker 2: have a fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 16: Well, no, for sure, we'll know those seven or eight spots.

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Speaker 16: We think that that'll be good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we'll talk to you then, Greg, Thanks

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Speaker 1: as always.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, Senior NFL produced senior producer from

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Speaker 2: during the football season on Fridays. So we look forward

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Speaker 2: to those conversations when we get to the games that count.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but still taking your

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Speaker 2: phone calls when we come back. You're the Bills head coach.

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Speaker 2: How you handling this final preseason game? You let us

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve Tasker will be turning things over to

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Speaker 2: the post practice podium here shortly as practice is wrapped

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Speaker 2: up for the day. We're going to take some phone

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Speaker 2: calls here before we do that, so let's go to

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Speaker 2: Dave in Buffalo next.

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Speaker 17: What's up, Dave h Right, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 17: As far as what I would do if I was

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Speaker 17: a coach, one thing I've really learned this fan has

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Speaker 17: learned is that they know a lot more than I

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Speaker 17: know about what goes on in the field. The situation

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Speaker 17: for Terrell Bernard is a good example. I thought that

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Speaker 17: they were really in bad shape at middle linebacker from

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Speaker 17: what I saw in the precedents kup Bernard wasn't on

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Speaker 17: the field, But in practice they clearly knew what was

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Speaker 17: going on and they made it work. But I do

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Speaker 17: if I was a coach this time though it is

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Speaker 17: one night just trusting them as a fan, but second

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Speaker 17: just it was such a clunker in Chicago. I do

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Speaker 17: have some inclination to put the team on the field

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Speaker 17: and really demand that they performed, and if they performed,

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Speaker 17: then they get the center the bench. If they don't perform,

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Speaker 17: then maybe I leave them out for another series. So

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Speaker 17: I put the starters out there for one series and

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Speaker 17: then make them do something, because I'd rather have them

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Speaker 17: demand they do something now than demand they do something

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Speaker 17: in the Ravens game and then find out that they can't.

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Speaker 1: All right, I can't fault that that approach. I get

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. It is a little I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think it may.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a two edged sword here because I

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Speaker 2: think it does make some fans nervous to have not

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Speaker 2: really seen Josh Allen with the starters yet. But at

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Speaker 2: the same time, there are people that want to keep

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen in bubble wrap until the regular season, and

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Speaker 2: one of those people might.

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Speaker 1: Be set right, and I want I get why.

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Speaker 3: I watched the Cincinnati Bengals face the Washington Redskin or

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Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders last night in Washington and Joe they

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Speaker 3: made a huge thing. It was Troy Aikman and Joe

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Speaker 3: Buck on the call made a huge thing about Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow playing. He never plays in the preseason. They get

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Speaker 3: off the terrible starts, So the Bengals are doing all

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Speaker 3: this stuff to try and get off to a faster

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Speaker 3: start this year because over the last three or four

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Speaker 3: years they stink out of the gate. So they're playing

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Speaker 3: their starters, and so Joe's out there playing, Joe Burrow's

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Speaker 3: out there playing, and he has this play where the

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Speaker 3: protection breaks down. He starts running around, loses fifteen yards,

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Speaker 3: ends up with three commanders on top of him and

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Speaker 3: Joe Buck and Troy. I thought Troy Aikman was gonna

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Speaker 3: pop a van. He was like, get go. He's yelling him,

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Speaker 3: go down, Joe. You know, nothing happened. Joe got up.

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Speaker 3: They called the next play and that was the end

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Speaker 3: of the series. Whatever you got it. Yes, it's a risk, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I think most of us would say, listen, you

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Speaker 3: got to blow the bugs out of that loss last week.

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Speaker 3: Get out there, go through some stuff, and you know,

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Speaker 3: get the bugs out of your offense. If they need

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Speaker 3: to do that, they will. I'm with Dave on this one.

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Speaker 3: They know what they're looking at. And these preseason joint practices.

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Speaker 1: Almost serve like preseason games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes, they're almost better than preseason games for the

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Speaker 3: coaching staff because the risk isn't they can mitigate the risk,

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Speaker 3: and they go hard. They go the players go hard.

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Speaker 3: So I think they like what they've seen. I think

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Speaker 3: they trust Josh and what he feels and what they're

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Speaker 3: seeing on film. These guys know Josh in a way

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Speaker 3: that we never will. They know the nuances of his game,

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Speaker 3: they know why he was throwing it. They have conversations

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Speaker 3: about each throw when they're watching film. Justicain well, I

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Speaker 3: was thinking this and this and this, you know, So

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Speaker 3: they know the nuance of how Josh plays. So in

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Speaker 3: those rooms and in those conversations, it's much much easier

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Speaker 3: for them to discern what's best than us sitting out

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Speaker 3: here with our feet up, mad that we blew the

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Speaker 3: over on the right or whatever, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Our fantasy teams suffering. So yeah, I'm with you, Dave.

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Speaker 3: Trust them that they know and if they need to

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Speaker 3: and they want to, and if Josh feels like, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'd really love to take a series, they'll say take one. Right.

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Speaker 2: And having talked to some people that make training camp

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Speaker 2: tours about the Bengals, I think it's safe to say

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Speaker 2: that the way they conduct their practice on a daily

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Speaker 2: basis is a lot different than the way the Bills do.

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Speaker 2: They go out, they practice for two days, they're off

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Speaker 2: for a day, they practice for two days, they're off

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Speaker 2: for a day. Like let's just say it's not as

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Speaker 2: tight as ship run over there by Zach Taylor as

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Speaker 2: it is here in Buffalo, based on the reports I've

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Speaker 2: gotten from people in the know that have been to

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Speaker 2: that camp.

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Speaker 1: So there's a reason. Yeah, you're got to get out

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01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: of the gate.

1509
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: Slow, and it's not rooted only in how much time

1510
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 2: their players get in preseason games.

1511
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this, the Bills, We've all We've had

1512
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 3: a couple of callers allude to it, Dave and Ryan

1513
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 3: and Toronto allude to it. Listen, you got the Baltimore

1514
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 3: Ravens coming in on Sunday night, opening weekend. That is

1515
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 3: going to be a heavyweight fight. You better show up

1516
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 3: with your mouthpiece in. They are going to be highly

1517
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 3: motivated and really angry about the way their season ended

1518
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 3: in the same building just eight months ago. I think

1519
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 3: if you can weather that storm and come out of

1520
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 3: that game somehow someway with a win, it spells great things.

1521
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 3: But that's the focus at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this weekend.

1522
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: So if the Bucks can help you win by playing

1523
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 3: against him, fine, But That's what it's about, and I

1524
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 3: think they're gonna they're going to navigate that path as

1525
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: best they can, whether it means playing or not.

1526
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 2: We want to pivot now to the post practice podium

1527
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 2: where Josh Allen is addressing the media.

1528
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 9: On the roster.

1529
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 18: Christian Roker said, Savers's it maybe more beneficial for their

1530
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 18: evaluation when.

1531
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 2: They're catching passes from you or maybe in a preseason game.

1532
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 18: Is it more better official with you the World War game?

1533
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 18: I mean, I think any any reps, any and all

1534
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 18: reps are beneficial going out there and executing a play

1535
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 18: to the best of their abilities, making sure they're lined

1536
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 18: up right and running the right route and doing what

1537
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 18: they're pay to do is catch the ball. And it

1538
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 18: doesn't matter who's at the quarterback position. I think, yeah,

1539
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 18: any and all reps are beneficial.

1540
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 8: I talked to us today about how you're still figuring

1541
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 8: out some of the guys for a wide receiver or

1542
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 8: maybe like four or five, six, seven. Do you feel

1543
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 8: more pressure when you have less repsude of those guys

1544
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 8: to like really make the most of it for their case?

1545
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 8: They're like, how does that work? From your fatality?

1546
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 18: No, I mean, I think the best thing I can

1547
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 18: do is again continue to be the best teammate that

1548
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 18: I can be, talk them through things if they have questions,

1549
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 18: and then obviously when they're when they're in with me,

1550
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 18: just doing my job and trying to give them a

1551
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 18: chance to catch the football. So yeah, I know, uh,

1552
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 18: I know, we're getting close to the end here, but

1553
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 18: our guys are working extremely hard and proud of him.

1554
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 5: But you've heard of Samuel is healthy.

1555
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 16: And what does he offered.

1556
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a little bit of juice, the shiftiness, the

1557
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 18: quickness that he has on the balls in his hands.

1558
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 18: He's an electric, electric football player. So you know, just

1559
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 18: getting him back to health and getting him out there

1560
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 18: and getting reps with us, that's uh, you know, it's

1561
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 18: good to see that today.

1562
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: Other than.

1563
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 11: Health, confident are best even though you're listening time on

1564
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 11: the meals with him that you guys can pick it up.

1565
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I think out of anyone, I've got

1566
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 18: the most reps with him just throughout the years, and

1567
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 18: I'm as confident as him as I am anybody. So

1568
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 18: I've got got no doubt that you know, when he

1569
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 18: gets back, it'll be he'll be smooth. But again, making

1570
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 18: sure that he's uh doing everything he can do to

1571
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 18: get back on the field, which I know he's doing.

1572
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 18: He's a he's a football player. He does everything the

1573
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 18: right way. Uh, still being engaged in meetings and talking

1574
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 18: through things on the sideline, So he's a he's a

1575
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 18: pros pro. Yeah, developing, you know, not just with him

1576
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 18: but everybody. Just making sure I'm trying to get as

1577
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 18: many reps with everybody. But yeah, he's doing a great

1578
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 18: job understanding where he's at. Asks a lot of questions,

1579
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 18: which obviously from the quarterback perspective, it's it's great to

1580
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 18: have that a guy that wants to learn and wants

1581
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 18: to know what you're thinking. So we got a lot

1582
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 18: of guys like that on in that white out room.

1583
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 18: And again, every day that goes by, we're going to

1584
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 18: continue to try to get better. No, I love Gabe,

1585
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 18: and I'm sure i'll see him over the next day

1586
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 18: or two and happy to happy to see him, obviously,

1587
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 18: love that guy. He's Uh, he was awesome when he

1588
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 18: was here, and I know he's getting back to full

1589
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 18: health here soon, so who knows, we'll see thank you. Yeah, Yeah,

1590
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 18: we've been we we we really haven't stopped being in

1591
01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 18: contact since he left. So yeah, we yeah, we got

1592
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 18: the game against the Bears.

1593
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 8: Like just kind of whether it's watching it live, watching

1594
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 8: it uphill, Like what do you even take away from

1595
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 8: a gameing time?

1596
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 4: Why, you know, obviously not playing as.

1597
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 18: You're trying to leave as much us Again, I think

1598
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 18: you know, we don't want to see the Bears in

1599
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 18: the preseason. They kicked our butt last year too, so

1600
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 18: you know, take it with a grain of salt. You know,

1601
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 18: watching the film, it's never as bad, never as good

1602
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 18: as you think it is. Trying to correct things obviously,

1603
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 18: you know, we don't game plan much in the preseason here.

1604
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 18: You know, we just asked that guys go out there

1605
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 18: and put their best stuff on the field, you know,

1606
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 18: and I don't know if we did that as a

1607
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 18: as a whole unit, but again, that's it's why we

1608
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 18: played the preseason. That's why we're doing joint practices to

1609
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 18: try different things, to figure out what guys can and

1610
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 18: can't do, and what we can and can't do as

1611
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 18: an offense, figure out what we're what we're good at,

1612
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 18: what we're not good at. So you know, every experience

1613
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 18: is a learning experience. It's the preseason at the end

1614
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 18: of the day. I know, I'm sure people are making

1615
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 18: a big deal out of it, but you know, we're

1616
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 18: using that as an opportunity to get better.

1617
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 15: For you individually.

1618
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 8: Like sorry, when you're just kind of you're not playing.

1619
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 5: What are you leaning from watching them on that?

1620
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,839
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean taking as many mental rips as possible,

1621
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 18: thinking what I would do if I was in the game,

1622
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,919
Speaker 18: and again just trying to keep guys on the sideline

1623
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 18: with juice and energy. And I feel like the sideline

1624
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 18: throughout the game was pretty pretty energized. We were, you know,

1625
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 18: we had a lot of energy. So now we got

1626
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 18: to go on the field and put the best product

1627
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 18: out that we can. And you know, that's what we'll

1628
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 18: do throughout practice, work hard, continue to work on things,

1629
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 18: and look forward to next week.

1630
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 2: John just got over here, and sorry for your asking this,

1631
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,560
Speaker 2: but so many guys put in and out of the

1632
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 2: line out the store traint.

1633
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 3: Kind of get on track.

1634
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 18: I honestly don't think it's too difficult. I think obviously

1635
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 18: guys are jumping in and stepping up when they can.

1636
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 18: As a quarterback, they can test your skills because you're

1637
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,919
Speaker 18: throwing a different bodies, different speeds different you know, movements

1638
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 18: and uh, you know that's honestly good practice in my opinion.

1639
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 18: But yeah, I mean we're getting I'm getting reps with everybody,

1640
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 18: So that's that's a cool thing, is getting to throw

1641
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 18: to some guys that maybe I wouldn't have if you know,

1642
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 18: things were different. But it's good to see guys step up.

1643
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 18: You know, We've got a lot of young guys that

1644
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 18: are that are smart football players and going in there

1645
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 18: and doing the best that they can. And senda, I

1646
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 18: mean still conditioning. We did some before this last game,

1647
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 18: and I'm sure we'll do some in Tampa. Just making

1648
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 18: sure that you know, game game reps are it's a

1649
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 18: lot different. You know, the the amount of exhaustion that

1650
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 18: that happens during the game, you can't really wrap it.

1651
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 18: So just making sure that I'm as in control of

1652
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,919
Speaker 18: that as possible and making sure IM getting reps conditioning.

1653
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 11: And that's that's how valuable it was that enjoying crimes

1654
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 11: to get give.

1655
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 18: Something like a game like it was awesome. I think that's, Uh,

1656
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 18: those are invaluable reps. And yeah, I mean it's it's

1657
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 18: it's good to go against somebody else, not not our

1658
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 18: defense and to try different things and to have different looks.

1659
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 18: You know, for our line, how are we blocking this look?

1660
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 18: If the safety is down on this like you know,

1661
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 18: he's just different nuances and it's a very very valuable stuff. Again,

1662
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 18: I think the ability to change arm slots, to change

1663
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 18: change ball positioning. Some guys are faster, some guys are slower,

1664
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 18: some guys are bigger, some guys are smaller, and we're

1665
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 18: asking them to run the same routes. And you know,

1666
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 18: if you got a six foot four guy run the

1667
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 18: same route as a five foot ten guy, the ball

1668
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 18: is gonna be a little bit different. And that's that's

1669
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 18: different reps that you have to get. So it's all

1670
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 18: reactionary stuff. And I think from the quarterback, I guess

1671
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 18: ad perspective, I think that's a good thing.

1672
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 5: Coming off of last season.

1673
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 11: What process did you go through to identify areas that

1674
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 11: you wanted to get bet or at A.

1675
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 18: Yeah, a lot of film work, making sure that my

1676
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 18: eyes and my my feet are synced up as well

1677
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 18: as they can be. It's why Chris hess this here again.

1678
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 18: Small little things I go back to last year. I

1679
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 18: mean there's still things on film. I look, I'm like,

1680
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 18: what was I thinking here?

1681
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 9: Why?

1682
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 18: Why am Why am I looking left when I know

1683
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 18: I should be looking right? And you know a lot

1684
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 18: of a lot of freebies that that could have been

1685
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 18: last year that we didn't take advantage of that. Hopefully

1686
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 18: we can this year.

1687
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,799
Speaker 5: We've been asking you questions about kiyok since like a game.

1688
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 11: To this pointing, where have you seen from when we

1689
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 11: started asking those questions until until those money?

1690
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 18: I think maturation just in terms of being a professional

1691
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 18: doing things the right way. Again, He's he's asked to

1692
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 18: do a lot in this offense. You know, we're asking

1693
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 18: to asking him to do more now too, And I

1694
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 18: think Joe Joe always says the opportunity for doing or

1695
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 18: the reward for doing, is the opportunity to do more.

1696
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 18: And I think that's what he's gotten right now, is

1697
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 18: you know, making sure that he knows every position because

1698
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 18: he will be inside, he will be outside where we're

1699
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 18: gonna ask him to do different things. He's gonna have

1700
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 18: to go in and block a safety. But that's gonna

1701
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 18: open up opportunities in the play action pass game for him,

1702
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 18: you know, and I think he's eager for that opportunity.

1703
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 18: It's it's awesome. I mean, I think our quarterback room

1704
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 18: as a whole is one of the best in the league,

1705
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 18: if not the best in the league. Just the guys

1706
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 18: that we have in there, great human beings, Guys that

1707
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 18: love football, guys that love the camaraderie of being on

1708
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 18: a football team. And Shane's Shane's no different.

1709
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 13: You know.

1710
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 18: The the knowledge that he has of the game too,

1711
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 18: it's a very beneficial for me.

1712
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 9: It's helpful.

1713
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 18: The way that he sees the game is very similarly

1714
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 18: to the way that I see the game. Able to

1715
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 18: bounce ideas back back and forth, and you know, he's

1716
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 18: been a huge help in that room.

1717
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: That's Josh Allen addressing the media. We got some notes

1718
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 2: from practice that will pass along to you after we

1719
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Speaker 2: take this break. But back to wrap it up with

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Speaker 2: some practice notes from today's session when we return here

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Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live presented by co Lot of Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, Just so up takes from practice today, according

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Speaker 2: to our team reporters that are out there watching when

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Speaker 2: we can't so keyon Coleman, another solid practice by many

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Speaker 2: accounts as a matter of fact, and Curtis Samuel actually

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01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 2: got some teamwork today, as did Shaq Thompson, so that's

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Speaker 2: encouraging as both of them returned from hamstring injuries. Tyland Grable,

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01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle who's been out the last two weeks

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Speaker 2: in the concussion protocol, was out there participating doing football

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Speaker 2: related activities in a non contact jersey, so that means

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Speaker 2: he's in step four of the five step return to

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Speaker 2: play protocol. All he needs is full medical clearance and

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Speaker 2: then he'll be able to participate in contact.

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Speaker 1: Be nice if they can get him back and he

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Speaker 1: can play in that last preseason game on Saturday. And

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Speaker 1: then Steve got the news on this one.

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Speaker 2: New running back Jarvi and Howard, who just signed with

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Speaker 2: the team today, suffered an injury in one of the

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Speaker 2: first few periods of practice and did not return. Also,

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Speaker 2: Mike White, in the battle to be a backup quarterback here,

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Speaker 2: was getting ten to two buy Athletic trainers for a

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Speaker 2: throwing hand injury and did not return to drills afterwards.

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Speaker 2: So hopefully that's not anything serious because I would assume

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Speaker 2: the two backups are going to play in this final.

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Speaker 3: Well, they've got Change Bouchell as well, so yes, they

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Speaker 3: can get through the game. Even if Bouchelle takes all

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Speaker 3: every snap, but yeah, I mean you want those you want.

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Speaker 3: I think there's still some evaluating going on there.

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Speaker 2: I would say there is, because wouldn't you agree that

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Speaker 2: neither has really separated themselves distinctly.

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Speaker 3: Some people have made their decision they think Trubisky's better

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Speaker 3: or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I think it's been a hair better, maybe made more

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Speaker 1: second reaction plays.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, that's his athleticism. And we saw in some highlights.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Mike White threw that back shoulder to Shavers

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Speaker 3: down the sidelines and the Bears game is really one

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Speaker 3: of the only highlights they had, so we'll see. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sold on. I think both those guys are going

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Speaker 3: to be in the building. I don't think any either

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Speaker 3: one of them is going anywhere. I'd be surprised if

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Speaker 3: if Mike White is the number two, that miss Trubisky

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Speaker 3: is gone or vice versa. Mike White will be gone.

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Speaker 3: If Trubisky's the number two, one.

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Speaker 1: Of them will have to be on the practice right

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Speaker 1: carry three on the rost exactly. They're not pulling a

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns here exactly.

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Speaker 3: So that's yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: Then the question becomes, does one of those quarterbacks want

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Speaker 2: to accept to practice squad designation.

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Speaker 1: Or would they rather just says, try to make a

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Speaker 1: roster somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because it's a big financial difference for those

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Speaker 3: of you don't know, so it's yeah, they may do

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Speaker 3: that as well, which means Bouchelle's next man up. Yes.

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Speaker 2: The one portion of the Josh Allen interview we did

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Speaker 2: not get to bring to you was he was asked

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Speaker 2: about the possibility of seeing Gabe Davis on his free

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Speaker 2: agent visit that's been reported by multiple outlets, and Josh said,

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Speaker 2: I love Gabe and I'm sure I'll see him over

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Speaker 2: the next day or two. Happy to see him, honestly,

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Speaker 2: love that guy. He was awesome when he was here,

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Speaker 2: and now he's getting back to full health here soon,

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Speaker 2: so who knows, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. It's that time of year, unexpected signings, unexpected releases,

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Speaker 3: unexpected injuries, and you've got to have it all down

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Speaker 3: to fifty three before you can even start thinking about

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Speaker 3: signing back guys back to the practice squad. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: have some new faces in the building this time next week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's any question about that.

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Speaker 2: That's it for us today. You know what, Steve and

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Speaker 2: I are going to come back and do it all

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Speaker 2: again tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Let's go had one.