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Speaker 3: Miller Call of the Week might be the highest viewed

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Speaker 1: And obviously PJ Clark tim twenty minute detort Lions dot

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Speaker 1: Com with you with the twenty min In the Huddle

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Speaker 1: podcast presented by Microsoft. And it is late Thursday night

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Speaker 1: and De Troit Lions went on the road against the

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Speaker 2: Terrific performance page going on the road.

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Speaker 1: And now look people are gonna say, yeah, Kannessey didn't

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Speaker 3: But you can only play the team in front of you.

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Speaker 2: You can play the team in front of you.

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Speaker 1: And that's still Patrick Mahomes and that's still the Kansas

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Speaker 3: It's the Aaron Glenn quote from Hard Knocks last year

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Speaker 3: And I think the feeling is back right now.

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Speaker 1: They're often running far. Is gonna be rocking next week.

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Speaker 1: It's always good to talk about a win, but it's

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Speaker 1: Get on streaks. That's what good teams do. That's what

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Speaker 2: For PJ.

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Speaker 1: Clark, Tim Twentyman for the twenty in the Huddle podcast.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you guys this week when we

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Speaker 1: get ready for Seattle, and we'll have a Seattle beat

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Speaker 2: We'll get a player in, we'll do key matchups, we'll

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