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We're live on our Twitch 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.080 every single Monday through Friday noon Eastern time. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:02.400 Let's get to the baseball. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.800 And I'm mad Welsh because I was going back and 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.080 forth yesterday morning. I had Santander and I had Sodo, 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.040 and I had Sodo, and I took him out and 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.480 I put Santander and then I thought about it again, 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.480 and I said, no, just leave it alone. And I 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.119 should have had soda because he had two home runs 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.160 yesterday and I would be very close to the board 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.160 going into the weekend. So bummer. Uh, just wanted to 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.600 vent about that. I mean, people are complaining that Juan 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.040 Soto somehow is not living up to these expectations, which 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.920 is just hilarious to me. Wan Soto is still have 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.560 an OBP that's close to four hundred. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:37.600 I just don't understand. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:38.640 I think it's true. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.800 I think that's true, but it's because the expectations are. Yeah, 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.600 it's he's sky high. Does that mean he's going to 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.080 be a disappointment. It's been one month, everybody relaxed. But 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:51.800 he's hitting two fifty and he got a gajillion dollars, 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.400 so I think it's fair to say he's not living 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:54.119 up to expectation. 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.760 But to nive homers, fourteen rubies, two steals, and eight 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:57.880 twenty two, well, well he had. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.919 Three homers before yesterday. Though before yesterday, let's point that out. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.720 There's a little bit of a disappointment. But it was 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:08.240 all the all the anticipation in the world was with him. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.040 The expectations are higher on him than almost any other 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.760 player in baseball, so I think that's relatively fair. But 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.440 he's heating up, and that's why you don't, you know, 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:17.880 knock him too far down. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:18.840 I just did my redraft. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.880 I'm messing with my redraft rankings, and I actually find 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.160 it really tough with him as far as like the 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.080 redraft outfield ranks go, because you know, sky high. But 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.680 Kyle Tucker's been amazing, Tatis has been amazing, Corman, Carrol higher, 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.320 I moved them all above Soto, but he's still top five. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.160 Okay, Like I said, nobody can live up to that contract. 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:41.200 It's absurd, it's ridiculous. It's I mean, all he has 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.080 to do is just be wan total, just play. That's 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:43.960 all it's got to happen. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:44.200 There. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.680 We do have some Mike Trout updates too, that just 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.640 came across a little while ago. I will share them 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.760 with you just a moment. I want to get to 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.160 Vlad Guerrero Junior. Another go ahead home run for him, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.960 three run dinger in the eighth. Blue Jays get the 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:58.960 victory four to two over the Red Sox. Paul Skeins 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:03.760 wasn't great yesterday. No, the start before fantastic against the Dodgers. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.480 Five innings, three runs. I think this is just these 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.080 human two strikeouts. That was the big bummer against the Cubs. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.600 Any takeaways or anything you just think it's bad, start, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.560 shake it off or any problems you saw yesterday from Skins. 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:20.440 Yeah, I was watching this one. He definitely he definitely 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:25.479 wasn't himself. Fifty two fastball percentage, sweeper splitter where I mean, 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.560 this is like the Zach Gallon thing I've been focused on. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:33.680 You don't throw enough strikes. He's different schemes because you've 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.640 got these monster, big pitches. But it's like, if you 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.440 don't throw enough strikes, people are not gonna swing at 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.840 They're not gonna try to like push through anything. It's 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.200 like you can just sit on, let's say a fastball 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.040 if all the pitches are not going for strikes and 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.360 it's just you sit on a fastball and you get 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:50.279 it in somewhere in the zone. He wasn't in the 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.159 zone in this one, twenty five percent with rate probably 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.119 one of the lowest we've seen. He had one whiff 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.160 on his fastball and his called strike and whift percentage 0:04:58.400 --> 0:04:59.400 was twenty six percent. 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:00.480 Super mem Yore. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.719 They got to him quite early, and just you know, 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.159 I don't think there's anything else to take away outside 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.600 of like he is a bit human. Velo was down 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.120 a tiny bit little tick like a half mile per hour. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.599 But he's just not invincible, I think is the big key. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.440 All right, let's get a question here from Red Sox fan. 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:19.599 I need pitching. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.880 Do I give up Devs for Shota Biby Myers or 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.039 try to push for Crochet. Well, you're not getting Crochet 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.880 for devor so unless you're pushing Juan Sota into. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.960 That mix instead. Let's see Shota for Devers. I would 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.680 do that. I don't love Shota's deeper stuns, but I 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:35.120 would do that. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:36.719 It's only one I would really do. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:37.000 Like. 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:37.919 I like Meyer. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.000 Biby's struggling right now, but I neither one of those 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.200 guys I think are worth the push, unless you know 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:46.920 you've been like Joe and you're just like this is 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.359 bad and I'm out on devors. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.760 I would I would say it's Shota. 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.440 Or not do that trade, or you know, go and try, 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:54.840 go and try for Crochet if you can. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.360 Lee's got a question here too, or Milver's statement, you 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.680 guys should get the Luca door mask ready for Sinco Demio. 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.480 So that's gonna be on Monday, So I have to 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:06.560 right shake that. 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:08.039 Yeah, I guess. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.840 Monday is Sinco Demio. So I've got mine. 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.320 It's back there, that's right here. You have to bring 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.160 that back. I have to do a little Sinko demiyo 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.120 here with the Joey Cunnoli. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.320 Little sink Stinko Stinko Sinco Stinko. 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.680 We can only hope that we can get one of those. 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.680 We can only hope. Speaking of Stinko, let's talk about 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.960 Mike Trout. He is gonna go on the IL with 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:32.120 a bone bruise. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.080 In his surgically repaired left knee. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:38.920 And that brings us to today's Microsoft Chasing Challengers segment, 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.040 because just like the athletes who push boundaries and redefine 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.960 what's possible, business decision makers today are turning challenges into opportunities, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.919 and Microsoft meets you or you are with tools and 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.320 guidance to help you make an impact with safe and 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.720 secure AI solutions. So whatever challenges you're facing, Microsoft empowers 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.919 you with the expertise to say, bring it on. And 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.920 in this segment, we're gonna talk about the challenges facing 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:02.040 anybody that's ross during Mike Trout. I know nobody wanted 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.720 to hear it two weeks ago, but I asked the 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.800 question out loud several times. Is this the time to 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.600 get out from Mike Trout? And it looks like two 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.320 years in a row. When I asked the question, the 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:14.280 answer was yes. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.520 And this pains me. Seople think I take joy in this, 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:19.480 I don't. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.360 I hate that I have this ability to sense the 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.560 reality of things and look at the downside of things 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.400 far often more than not. 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:30.720 And Mike Trout is a Hall of Famer. 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.320 Mike Trout, to this peak, is one of the best 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.400 baseball players I think any of us have ever seen. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.320 But we're in a spot now from a fantasy investment standpoint, 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.720 Even though you got him cheaper than you ever have before, 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.360 he's still a liability hitting under two hundred. Yeah, there's 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.680 some power, but his inability to stay on the field 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.120 is absolutely crushing and it sucks. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:51.720 It's terrible, it's frustrating. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.040 I don't have the answer for it, except maybe when 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.239 it comes off the il if he has another good stretch, 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.160 you take your second shot and you trade him off 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.880 of that because you missed window number one? Do you 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.120 get a window number two? 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.600 Maybe? I hope so. But that is this week's Chasing challenges. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.240 Remember Microsoft AI solutions and power you to take bold 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.239 steps and have new ideas to help drive your business. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.720 But we'd with Microsoft as your trusted partner, you can 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.120 navigate your journey with confidence, finding innovative solutions and reaching 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.880 new possibilities. Visit Microsoft dot com Slash challengers. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.360 To learn more. So, Welsh, I'll pose this question to you. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.560 If you get a second chance to deal Mike Trout 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.400 by the end of May, are you taking it? 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:30.080 Maybe? 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.520 Not looking forward to this today because getting the I 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.440 told you so, Joe Probably. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.800 My wife for Joe stradamis yeah, well. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.680 The least like version of Joe that I know, which 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.679 is saying one of my best friends, Yeah, one of 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.400 my best friends, the least like version, because here's where 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.199 I disagree. There hasn't been a selling point. You keep 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.000 talking about this. There has not been a selling point. 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.600 He hasn't hit over two hundred. Yes, he's hit some homers, 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.080 but it's like the selling point of Eohanio Suarez. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:00.360 There isn't a second. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.120 We had two almost three homers on that Saturday night 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.079 and then Sunday was back at its smacking balls over 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.520 place that was you could feel the surge of oh 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.760 my god, here we go, let's get on the trout train. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:13.719 I think that was it, and that's when I came 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:15.440 in Monday, I said, maybe it's time. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.240 Yeah, I still I just don't think it's there. Based 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.760 on the cost equity of like where you ended up 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.400 getting him to the injury, things are still okay. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:24.600 This isn't the back. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.320 Unfortunately, the surgically like prepared knees and stuff like that 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.680 has a concern. They're pretty minimal about this. They're like, 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.080 they think this is going to be low bone bruises 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.040 are scary. But my problem would have been if this 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.360 was something in like the back, a degenerative issue that 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.320 was going to carry over. But if they're saying it's 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.800 not too crazy, Okay, so let's take that out. It's 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.240 definitely frustrating that he's injured. But the cost was built 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.319 in Mike when you drafted Mike Trout. It doesn't matter 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.200 if you drafted him in third round or the tenth 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.439 round or the fifteenth round, no matter what you've done, 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.840 the cost should have been built in that he would 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.760 miss time. So if you drafted him without thinking he 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:01.920 was and hit an eyel at some point, you're a 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.800 silly goose. So this is one of those situations. Now, 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.679 if he comes back and he gets, you know, back 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.000 into like that contact based mic truck, he had an 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.400 expected batting average of almost two fifty this season, not 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.200 still not great, but about eighty points higher than or 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.559 seventy points higher than he was hitting right now. If 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.600 you get back to that and you want to get 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.240 out from under it, because you know he could hit 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.480 a bat bag too hard and he could get hurt. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.679 Like that's the time to do it. But this was 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:28.079 built in. 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.120 He was gonna miss time no matter what. It's like 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.400 a Jacob Jacob Degronk goes on the iel. I don't 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.240 want to hear anybody being like, oh I told you so, 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.360 duh he's not going to pitch the whole season, so 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.120 wait till he gets back and bounces. 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.640 So let's take twenty overall. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.920 Let's say I mean I didn't do that start. Yeah, 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:45.640 I didn't know, but. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.120 In a lot of people's list, that's where he was. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.240 That's why it's just madness for me. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.960 Look, I what businessman, Well, if you know me, anybody 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.200 in their place right the right price? 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.400 Okay, I'm listening. I thought the. 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.280 Price was intriguing this year on trout for the first 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.560 time in a long time, and even still I got 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.600 zero shares. A good question here from Game Over Jackson 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.720 Merril when he returns to Garrett Crochet ten team Murdo. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.280 Who'd rather have? What side of that deal? 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:11.920 I think Crochet. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.760 I had Crochet preseason right there, I'd probably go with him. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.599 I mean, it's also maybe like, what's your need? You know, 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.119 if you if you want the like twenty twenty outfielder 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.480 with a good average Merrill, if you need the offense, 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.160 if you need the pitching, clearly Crochet. 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:25.240 Yeah. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.640 Here's another one from JB and who wins this trade? 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.880 I get Jordon and Yanna here and send Edmund and Contreras. 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.960 Uh you win when you get Jordon. That's I mean, 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.560 this is you're not a struggle for Edmund. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.199 I don't care, no, no, no, no, I agree, I agree. 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:41.840 I'm not trying to do any of that. Like it 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.920 is clearly your Alvarez. But the reason that it's coming 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.880 up is because and he's hitting two nineteen. He expected 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.400 his way lower. Underlying profile is just kind of like 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.080 under where he's been. This is a knee injury worries. 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:57.400 But like Edmund and William Contreras, is a laughable return 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.320 for a guy like Jordan Alvarez who struggled for one month. 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.719 Yeah, he's one from Cookie Jackson Holliday. Droppable at this 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.360 point depends on what's on the waiver wire. But yeah, 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.000 especially in shallow leagues one hundred percent, and how long 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:13.000 you're giving Kurts or we giving Kurts more more time. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.480 I'm giving him another two to three weeks. Welsh, what's 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.200 your patient's level there? I mean, you called him up. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:18.800 I don't think the athleticians is gonna send him right 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:19.079 back down. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:20.199 I think that would be kind of stupid. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:20.679 Yeah. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.840 You also, you guys spent equity on getting him and 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.120 picking him up, so it's like, should you be done 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.440 after like a week or two? I would give him. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.320 I mean, to be honest with you should probably give 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.199 him to May. If you don't want to start him, 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.480 don't start him. I got some situations where I'm not 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.240 putting him in the starting lineup right now to get 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.520 figured out, but at least two. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:39.640 More weeks at least. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.480 Yeah, And I don't know if Jackson Holiday is dropabile, 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.760 drop in like ten team leagues. He is, but I'm 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.440 still not trying to do it anything higher. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.560 That's fair, that's fair. More news. 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.439 The Welsh was Welsh or Thomas Shelby Miller perfect ninth. 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.560 See you get things right on the show too. I 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.199 give you credit when you get things right. 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:00.360 It's funny. Great. 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.880 When you say I always pop the wash, I'm like, 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.120 look at Shelby Miller, look out good. I'm right about 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.840 selling Trout two weeks ago. I'm the villain. 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:15.400 No, no, no, no, I'm a bad guy. 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.400 I'm the villain. I'm Joe. 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.640 Every time I'm mad about something, nobody's happy. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:22.360 I'm ecstatic. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.640 I give you tons of credit. That one that's a 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.040 specific one, that's a very specific one. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:29.960 That I don't so it hurts you. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:31.240 Yeah, and it's also annoying. 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.439 It's just business. It's just business. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.960 Well, Aaron Judge the other day, you're doing fine, You're doing. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.760 Fine, Miller. What's the value on the waiver wire of 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:40.560 Shelby Miller right now? 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.040 I think it's it's pretty good. 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:46.280 I was actually doing a little livestream myself yesterday and 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:47.800 I was taking a look and I was like, you know, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.319 let's take a look at the order of what they 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.280 did the day before with the Diamondbacks, and they had 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.079 a you know, full healthy roster. 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.520 And they went Ginkle, they went Shelby, and then they 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:58.559 went Justin Martinez. 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.480 So I kind of speculated midway through that Diamondbacks game, 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.280 I think we're gonna see Shelby. He's had a great 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.199 fastball this year. He's been kind. He's had one blip, 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.920 but he's been kind of unhittable. Ginkle's coming back from 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.439 an injury. Let's see what goes on now. To be fair, 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.560 Ginkle came in a high leverage situation. He was facing Lindor, 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.960 he was facing Toto, and well, he gave up a 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.840 bomb to Soto. So he gave up a bomb to Soto, 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.120 got through those guys almost blew it all. After that, 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.760 he looked, well, he got out of it, but he 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.280 put those guys on second and third and then he 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:30.960 got out of the inning. That was great, and Shelby 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.680 came in and cleaned that bad boy up. So I 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.320 think whatever it is, it's for a month at least. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.120 I think Justin Martinez is going to be out for 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.840 a month. I personally think it's going to be Shelby 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.800 the way through, but there's a possibility that Ginkle is 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.560 their fireman and could get a couple of those safe situations, 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.720 so act accordingly. I do think he's going to be 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.040 more the primary guy. I don't think it's bad to 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.920 have speculate it on Ginkle. I don't think yesterday told 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.280 us everything. But I sure do think that the are 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.560 going to go to Shelby in this next outing. So 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.920 you know, what do you spend I don't know. You know, 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:05.840 it's kind of like Luke. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.840 Weavers, and depending on your need, I think that's. 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.040 That's like a Luke Weaver slash cade Smith. What you 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:10.480 were doing with. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:11.760 That should do? 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.600 I would put over him if it was priority waivers 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.640 for sure, because you know the Anks already like him 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.840 in that role. By the way, A put a poll 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.920 up there, seventy thirty. Time to sell Mike Trout is 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.080 the yes, it is time. So maybe you get a 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:26.520 second change. 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.720 Why would you sell him when he's hitting under two 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:29.320 hundred And. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.920 I'm saying the second time when he comes back. 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.520 Because as you said, not how he phrased it, And 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.120 I think the phrasing is when you get in the 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.440 next opportunity to get out, you don't miss this second time. 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.440 I think if that's how we phrased it, then that's fine. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.240 If we just said, should we sell my tut Trout, now, 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:47.520 that's silly. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.640 LuSE arrows. By the way, question, Yeah, that's what it 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:51.200 was right there. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.600 Time to sell right now. I'm sorry. I didn't mean takkob, 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.760 but he just phrased it time to sell Trout. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.880 It's yeah, But I gave the caveat if you get 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.240 a second chance. I think, like Peters and Crackers, Shacks 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.320 are very bright. You know you gotta give them credit, 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.640 even Uncle baby Billy despite all his Bible bonking that 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.320 he does. So Vester Shelby, I just want to get 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:10.640 this question answered for loose arrows. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.000 Shelby, Okay, for me. 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:13.640 See how easy that one? All right? 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.160 Also in the bad news depart a lot of bad news. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.240 Don't worry, We've got some fun stuff on the show today. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.680 But Jake Berger sent down the triple A. He's at 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.400 the buck ninety with a two thirty one OBP, a 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:30.200 three thirty slugging, I mean, just awful. Thirty two strikeouts, 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.440 just three walks in thirty games. Wash, what happened to 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:33.160 Jake Berger? 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.680 Yeah, this is wels Elle for sure. Excoose me. 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.080 I thought we were going to bounce back. I still 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.440 stupidly do think we are going to get back to it. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:42.480 But this is a bad sign. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:43.960 His strikeout rate is up. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.000 Ironically, though, you look across the board, if you're trying 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.560 to like peace smell, you know who he is as 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:50.480 an underlying hitter. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:52.000 It's kind of the same. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.320