Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning breakfast club more
Speaker 1: than everybody is DJ Envy angela Ye, Charlemagne the guy.
Speaker 1: We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest
Speaker 1: in the building fifty. It got me up bright and early.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Manything? Good man? No complaints? How I
Speaker 1: feel to be back in New York. Man, feel good man?
Speaker 1: The city? The city is good. Don't you ain't watching
Speaker 1: YouTube to see the news clips about every things is
Speaker 1: going on out here. You look like you got back
Speaker 1: in the gym heavy brom I back. You know, they
Speaker 1: say I was fat super Bowl. That shit bothers me, man,
Speaker 1: because I was like, what are you talking about? I'm
Speaker 1: not fat? Like I got I'm gonna sure you pitture
Speaker 1: I took with Jimmie Foxx. You know, I guess it's
Speaker 1: the angle because I was coming up, so you see
Speaker 1: like it looked a little wider and then they got
Speaker 1: they got that and they ran with it. But you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm looking like now, I fluctuated a lot
Speaker 1: throughout mind my run, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: it's just my body tie. I can be security, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be too big and it's sorry. You know,
Speaker 1: I started training and working out stuff but regular stuff,
Speaker 1: but I just made sure I did it every morning
Speaker 1: because they said that to me. How's it back on
Speaker 1: the road? You know, the last two three years you've
Speaker 1: been doing nothing but movies and shows, and now you're
Speaker 1: back on the road. How does that feel to be
Speaker 1: out performed? Like? You know, look, hip hop is now
Speaker 1: old enough for them to start to treat us like
Speaker 1: we treated the real pop stars, you know, like we're
Speaker 1: Princeton and Mike. And then when they was, they would
Speaker 1: just say I'm performing today and the show would go
Speaker 1: up and sell out that day, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: and then and the nationally, I'm getting an old response
Speaker 1: to the things, like everything sold out like when I
Speaker 1: went out there, and it's because I laid the groundwork,
Speaker 1: like during Get Richard Died Trying and the Massacre those projects.
Speaker 1: Was taking two years for me to come with the
Speaker 1: next album because I spent the whole year after I
Speaker 1: released it touring, you know, so because I was going
Speaker 1: everywhere like Croatia, moved by India, like Coast of Old
Speaker 1: like I would everywhere, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: everywhere that they would I wanted all of the flags
Speaker 1: that M had on that Marsha Matters album, Yeah, that plaque.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I know I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: go through the door to get it, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go in the association to M help, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like I went out there and
Speaker 1: did all of that, but now now it feels good
Speaker 1: because I'm able to go out there and through those
Speaker 1: things and people really responding to it, and I'm so
Speaker 1: seasoned the performance now it's like it's easy, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I'm running out and it's like
Speaker 1: oh boom. I'm like, yeah, I'll get do it again
Speaker 1: tonight because it makes you feel celebrated and appreciated. Because
Speaker 1: fifth you would you a different type of legend, like
Speaker 1: it levels the legends, you know, a different type of legends.
Speaker 1: You gotta change. You can't see the same way. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I'm looking going the things
Speaker 1: that I got off phone in the beginning, Charla, it
Speaker 1: changed dramatically, like now, look the simplicity and writing music
Speaker 1: is a key to it. So like go short, it's
Speaker 1: your birthdays. What comes what I'm feeling when I'm hearing
Speaker 1: the rec and then the reason is where people have
Speaker 1: a specific reason they want to enjoy themselves. When it's
Speaker 1: your birthday and we're here, we want to have a
Speaker 1: good time. So I'll put that in it. But when
Speaker 1: you think about it and television is it's almost never
Speaker 1: right the first time, Like they write it and then
Speaker 1: they get the notes from the executives and it comes
Speaker 1: down with different so it kind of morphs into something different.
Speaker 1: And it's choices. So if creatively, if you make if
Speaker 1: you go Okay, I'm going left here and they're gonna
Speaker 1: but you could have went right, and you see, I
Speaker 1: could have did that, but it was a creative choice.
Speaker 1: But that example, if they don't give you that example
Speaker 1: what you could have did. They don't know why they're
Speaker 1: receiving there by they're being paid, so they give you
Speaker 1: that example, and then the artists change it and it
Speaker 1: just changes. So it makes me not creatively want to
Speaker 1: be a part of the writing process because it's a
Speaker 1: it's a very tedious process. You got to know so
Speaker 1: many details about the story before you get started that
Speaker 1: it's like I'd rather feed the writer information being part
Speaker 1: of the you know, the whole creative idea. But let
Speaker 1: them handle that part because there's so many changes and
Speaker 1: stuff until it works. Then you start to see less
Speaker 1: and less notes as the projects more and more successful.
Speaker 1: But do you feel celebrated? Fifth don't like that's a skill.
Speaker 1: So you guys haven't for a long time. I answered
Speaker 1: how I want to answer, and I come back and
Speaker 1: I say what I want to say. So you look
Speaker 1: at you go Now I do feel teb even when
Speaker 1: you see the new versions, like when you see like
Speaker 1: Dirt and these these other artists that come out that
Speaker 1: have that um like the element that is coming straight
Speaker 1: out of the environment, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then you look like and this pure Chicago would you
Speaker 1: you get from them? You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him like and I was turned onto
Speaker 1: them so early because I remember I was crazy about
Speaker 1: Chief Keep. Ye Chief Keep first came. They thought Chief
Speaker 1: I just didn't know. You didn't know what I was
Speaker 1: talking about. He was like, yo, nah, like what they're
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the environment, how to survive and
Speaker 1: function there. And it was in a whole new world
Speaker 1: with this this actual business. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but once you get a chance to kind of know them,
Speaker 1: you you start to like them because they're not like
Speaker 1: the music. What the music is saying is not who
Speaker 1: they actually are. Like that's and it's the same thing
Speaker 1: with me too, or you wouldn't be able to grow
Speaker 1: past those points. He would just look the guy who
Speaker 1: does exactly what I'm saying and does is that it's
Speaker 1: not successful. Are you doing? Are you doing another album?
Speaker 1: Hurt that you might be doing one last album? I
Speaker 1: heard you working on? Is there any true to that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I started working on some things like the last one,
Speaker 1: though it may not be the last album and maybe
Speaker 1: broken up into something that goes out with one of
Speaker 1: the television shows. You see what I'm saying. Like, but creatively,
Speaker 1: I just said, now I want to do something, and
Speaker 1: I got all the vehicles that I needed to do
Speaker 1: twenty five television shows, so I could just put here's
Speaker 1: the EP connected to this and that if without having
Speaker 1: the pressure of it being a full album and and
Speaker 1: all that, because like look, if you look when the
Speaker 1: last time you've seen the actual numbers on the sales
Speaker 1: of record, like you see, Kanye said, you put it
Speaker 1: on something device so you can't see the actual number
Speaker 1: the numbers, right, and that that's because if you see
Speaker 1: the number, you go, oh wait, man, it's how did
Speaker 1: you used to be? Yeah, you know it's especially when
Speaker 1: you have a huge, successful sales record. So they're avoiding
Speaker 1: that number by putting it on a device or putting
Speaker 1: it through title or through somewhere else, so you can't
Speaker 1: actually see what's happening with it. But the record, they're
Speaker 1: bigger stars within the culture because they've been here longer
Speaker 1: and developed their brands. I don't even think it mad
Speaker 1: at them more. Be honestly, they did what three hundred something,
Speaker 1: and people will be like, oh, it's her lower sales weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm like, give see twenty five years in and I
Speaker 1: mean it's just how many kids you got, three married, married,
Speaker 1: three married with three kids and it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: the same sex, right, I mean, it's a diff different
Speaker 1: energy there. And then our audience has grown the grown folks.
Speaker 1: You gotta look and say, I'd say between two thousand
Speaker 1: and three and two thousand and five viewers in college,
Speaker 1: you my core audience. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: that's when you're having your adult experience. For the first time,
Speaker 1: when you party in every available moment possible. And those
Speaker 1: those people the material impacted the hardest because it's the
Speaker 1: theme music to their life at that point when it's smoking, hotest,
Speaker 1: brand new, it's just happening at that point. And then
Speaker 1: you look, love music don't get old. So Beyonce that
Speaker 1: she ain't going nowhere like Shell, there'll be a reason
Speaker 1: for you to want to listen to Beyonce. Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's just when you look at
Speaker 1: R and B music and B music require buttons. At
Speaker 1: some point you had to be a gentleman. Now you
Speaker 1: look up, they got the same tattoos the hip hop artist.
Speaker 1: They're saying the same they're singing the lyrics the hip
Speaker 1: hop artists would say in the verse, And what about
Speaker 1: g Unit? I see Banks making his rounds. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: y'all do a project in a documentary, when is that happening?
Speaker 1: I probably won't do a project with them. I'm done
Speaker 1: with with carrying them around my back hurt. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a different animal, like if it doesn't you know what
Speaker 1: he showed him. If he does something wrong, I don't
Speaker 1: care what what magnitude of it is. He'll look, he'll
Speaker 1: go my bad, and and you go all right, and
Speaker 1: we just keep going to the next time he does
Speaker 1: something wrong. That's the relationship. That is our relationship. Now
Speaker 1: when you look at the like Banks, all these other guys,
Speaker 1: they oh they came in by way of him, and
Speaker 1: they have a different temperament. It's not like it's not
Speaker 1: the same relationship. So I don't necessarily go back to
Speaker 1: carrying them. You know. Yeah, he's it's different. Do you
Speaker 1: want do you watch hold On? Do you watch the
Speaker 1: unit in interviews? Do you watch like Banks interviews? I
Speaker 1: see some of the stuff to come through. I saw
Speaker 1: he did something with flex, I saw it yep um clips, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that the whole interview. But I see pieces like
Speaker 1: I saw something that he did with your buddy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gave you big problems on that. He said that
Speaker 1: you made him a better songwriter. You improved his craft
Speaker 1: at that point. I wasn't doing nothing but writing nothing
Speaker 1: the song, right, Like if you're saying, if you're going,
Speaker 1: I don't think you should be have the best verse
Speaker 1: at fifty years old. In hip hop culture, I think
Speaker 1: the hip part of hip hop this youth coaching and
Speaker 1: that and that like we we love things that are
Speaker 1: like the coach loves things that have been damaged by
Speaker 1: the experience. And you can see, no matter how harsh
Speaker 1: the experience has been, how beautiful the art is in it,
Speaker 1: Like it sounds perfect when you hear Cardi be saying it, Oh,
Speaker 1: it sounds like something different, and you know what the
Speaker 1: experience has been like prior to that, it's been a
Speaker 1: rough road to get there, Like you're going if you
Speaker 1: don't think that I picked up specifically because of the
Speaker 1: strip club and that experience, the like every single one
Speaker 1: of those girls, like let's say about sixty or seventy
Speaker 1: percent of them would like to trade places with Cardi
Speaker 1: right now. Right, So the dream happened and it's like
Speaker 1: a year the record work meant, that got married, Ye
Speaker 1: had the kids. The whole shit just came together like
Speaker 1: like in one year. So I was like, I'll point
Speaker 1: to that because it's the beauty of our cultures, Like
Speaker 1: we saved people. And what about the documentary because I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people would love to know how
Speaker 1: would happened, Like they see fifth they know what happened,
Speaker 1: but they don't know how it happened. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: do it. I would do a documentary on it, and
Speaker 1: I think the if there would be surprised from from
Speaker 1: my perspective what it is like because you look at
Speaker 1: it and you say, like we have communications. I come
Speaker 1: in and I told them all. I said, Yo, look
Speaker 1: under the table. They look under the table and they
Speaker 1: got on ELVs and Chi. You know That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: do not expect your JUNA check to come at the
Speaker 1: time they were being paid to where JUnit Sniager is RBK,
Speaker 1: So don't expect that check to come in the mail again,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm exactly. And it was like jay
Speaker 1: Z didn't give his shoe deal to He didn't give
Speaker 1: the the other guys that was on Rockefeller the shoe
Speaker 1: deal he was with Basketball Plue right, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I could have just put the shoes on the court
Speaker 1: or because I took the Stan Smithadita to kind of
Speaker 1: create what the Juni shoe was, because it just went
Speaker 1: to tennis, you know what I'm saying, And it made
Speaker 1: that cool like while we was doing everything else, and
Speaker 1: instead I gave all of them to check that fund
Speaker 1: that was their finance was coming from RBK to pay
Speaker 1: them to do it, and they was just on trim
Speaker 1: with what everybody else was doing style wise doing that.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't expect that to come. But
Speaker 1: at that point I was telling them that they needed
Speaker 1: to focus on their branding, stitching and stuff and everything
Speaker 1: else because I'm not going to do it for you,
Speaker 1: like to just do it for you. And it's it's not. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm not that much smarter than these guys. Man. I
Speaker 1: just the time period that I had between like five
Speaker 1: the massacre, because at that period three from three to five,
Speaker 1: I was on the whole experiment. Like the girls was
Speaker 1: excited about me. We was going who it was, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even know. It's the fuzziest blurry to me who
Speaker 1: was there at that point right now? But oh five,
Speaker 1: I was locking in because I was trying to understand
Speaker 1: what was actually going on so to get rich to
Speaker 1: gossel fans. Yeah, so I was in the in the
Speaker 1: in the hotels, I'm on the phone with the lawyer.
Speaker 1: U sense, so what does this mean? Because the terms
Speaker 1: in the actual contracts are written within legal terms that
Speaker 1: I don't understand everything that's dead and I went through
Speaker 1: everything into it. I can know enough to use my
Speaker 1: gut instincts on how I want to do the deal. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: everybody else is at the party. This this NonStop party
Speaker 1: that's going on. That they missed all of the information
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So when it came time for
Speaker 1: them to secure keeping things going, they didn't do the
Speaker 1: same thing I did. Damn you You you talk about writing,
Speaker 1: did you only write for gunit artists? Yesterday I saw
Speaker 1: a reference track for Higher Leaked, Yeah, and as you
Speaker 1: as you doing. I did what's your Name? Uhi songs
Speaker 1: on that album, Well everybody knows that, and I did
Speaker 1: on What's your Name? I did Paradise for LL with
Speaker 1: but Yeah. I wrote that and then Charmagne did the
Speaker 1: reference vocals and then from Tony Pope. Because it was
Speaker 1: a familiar loop, it needed to have the chorus on
Speaker 1: that to sell, you know, I tracked Myssters used to
Speaker 1: do all of the joints over so to pitch that
Speaker 1: to LL, you got to have a full picture for
Speaker 1: him to see it when he come in, or he's
Speaker 1: not gonna understand why he's doing that that loop again,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we did that. Then,
Speaker 1: um few other pieces I did, but next oh, for Next,
Speaker 1: I did the R and B group. Yeah, what song
Speaker 1: was it? I forgot? Was Fun of the Joints. But
Speaker 1: I got a plaque for that for next and I
Speaker 1: did UM I wrote for Puff. But what did you
Speaker 1: write for buff the not Guilty and a filthy come
Speaker 1: on take this money, this money? Oh up? Joint? You
Speaker 1: wrote that? Yeah? I saw ye say that he was
Speaker 1: supposed to sign a bad boy. Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1: I was going back and forth and he just he
Speaker 1: just look. They knew I was talented. They just looked
Speaker 1: at it and was like, I don't want all of
Speaker 1: this stuff that comes with him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it took for me to go around until uh
Speaker 1: the m stumbled over it. But he didn't know the
Speaker 1: trouble that came with it what I'm saying. I was like, Yo, no,
Speaker 1: this is perfect. Like I wasn't even gonna say nothing,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I didn't even address them
Speaker 1: direc erectly until uh, like John had said something about
Speaker 1: Hailey and they had a relationship because they was getting out.
Speaker 1: They had hung out together and got high together and them, yeah,
Speaker 1: go from there, like because he felt like there was
Speaker 1: something that there was closer than it was based on that.
Speaker 1: This is joh So he when they got into we
Speaker 1: got to a point he had fired off and he
Speaker 1: said some stuff about Haley and that was just it.
Speaker 1: I seen him was upset. I said all right, I
Speaker 1: can't do it now and I went in the next room.
Speaker 1: I was in Detroit and I recorded Automatic Gunfight that
Speaker 1: weekend because the first tape was the Future was all
Speaker 1: of those tapes. That was one photo shoot in this
Speaker 1: dude garage. Wowow with the white with the red, white
Speaker 1: and blue and the white shirt. It was all three
Speaker 1: shirts we had. We had a green theme, the red,
Speaker 1: white and blue thing and white t shirts. I want
Speaker 1: to go back. So you wrote Higher, Yeah, you wrote
Speaker 1: six songs off that album Higher. This is how we do.
Speaker 1: Were automatically thinking we do. But his verses on that.
Speaker 1: So when you see the writing credit, you think it's
Speaker 1: his verse. You see the writing. Look, they said kind
Speaker 1: of stuff about like he said he wrote what up Gangs? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, bro, he wasn't even around when
Speaker 1: we did that. Like that was before he even came
Speaker 1: into the picture. Like that's get rich to died trying.
Speaker 1: He didn't even come after that. Yeah, we don't even
Speaker 1: know who he was after. But there's a I know,
Speaker 1: there's a point where desperation when you say anything like
Speaker 1: this is how to rob? Me to ro Yeah, Columbia,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm like yo, because after
Speaker 1: bigg and the two part of the name artists was
Speaker 1: kind of standing away from saying everybody's name. This is
Speaker 1: when they're doing twenty three bets on one in them
Speaker 1: threat some Syneymlex three TV sets the minimum that's naws
Speaker 1: about jay Z in my lifetime, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that it was all subliminal, say everything I gotta
Speaker 1: say about you without saying it's for you, and let
Speaker 1: the you know listener go ah oh he's saying this.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So they were still doing that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, uh, okay, I'm say everybody's name
Speaker 1: because it looks like I'm going back to the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be subjective to what the guy. So it
Speaker 1: just didn't matter. It was like whatever, I'm going back anyway.
Speaker 1: It looked like we'll cause more drama. How to rob
Speaker 1: a Holy Chrome? How to rob? Really? You know, it's
Speaker 1: ill the Karan look, and they just the documentary thing
Speaker 1: came out and I don't care nothing about that because
Speaker 1: I know nas his the connection to that as there
Speaker 1: was god body. You know what I'm saying, like that
Speaker 1: is this thing other than that? There's nothing else dead,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And you look and I go, well,
Speaker 1: what is the when they put the Koran? And they
Speaker 1: they mentioned how many times did their name were in
Speaker 1: records in the documentary and it was cool every time
Speaker 1: that their name was in records, but they was upset
Speaker 1: with the version that I did. Team up. They went
Speaker 1: through ten different For people that don't know what the
Speaker 1: holy Qurana is is is you talked about a lot
Speaker 1: of the hustlers and queens. Yeah, the neighborhood. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, but you know, DJs
Speaker 1: would get beat up for playing the record all day,
Speaker 1: like if you played it, like, don't play that record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's how crazy it was back there. And they
Speaker 1: wouldn't say nothing to me though they're going on, no,
Speaker 1: you know, like not seeing me, it's enough. And didn't
Speaker 1: have problem with the record. Then he had a problem
Speaker 1: later when law enforcement start to hold on to the
Speaker 1: records and then not holding the record because of what
Speaker 1: I said on it, because they already got a separate
Speaker 1: homicide that you're sitting in here on. They already got
Speaker 1: your tapes in the dope that you got caught within
Speaker 1: bottom up. So what they're really holding you to is
Speaker 1: the fact that I didn't say nothing when I got hit.
Speaker 1: So they're saying, he's associated to this thing with this kid,
Speaker 1: and and this is the this is why they keep
Speaker 1: bringing that into this actual case. Butmber, all of the
Speaker 1: snitch you snitch this is now that's the worst thing
Speaker 1: you can be in the environment that I come up in, Right,
Speaker 1: what a snitch at And the documentary I'm not in
Speaker 1: that case. So there's no snitch there, right, there's nothing
Speaker 1: about nothing. All he says is he knew me. He
Speaker 1: knew what what that was about. And what it is
Speaker 1: what that was about was he got an idea and
Speaker 1: they eat the same idea. I got minds work. Obviously,
Speaker 1: do you understand what I'm saying. He like his idea
Speaker 1: is YO, lead them alone, they our food because he
Speaker 1: eating off him, like when the when the fish is
Speaker 1: saying yo, while he's saying yo, we beat the feeder,
Speaker 1: never beat nothing, and he wasn't involved in nothing. They
Speaker 1: really washed you up to make sure that they got
Speaker 1: him so you couldn't help him financially. Yeah, they only
Speaker 1: put you in the case to eat it. He'll tell
Speaker 1: you he was two million in the hole. And the
Speaker 1: thing I think I think I heard that he said,
Speaker 1: they don't drink cha, So why are you two million
Speaker 1: in the hole? Is to make sure you can't help him.
Speaker 1: He went to trial with a legal eighty. They never
Speaker 1: had a home jury, know nothing. These words out of
Speaker 1: his mouth. You see what I'm saying. But I go
Speaker 1: see bids, I go see kat In Clinton. Cat go,
Speaker 1: Yeah he fucked that up, he go. I don't understand
Speaker 1: he was supposed to have both. Why he choose You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, Like he's going, y'all from you
Speaker 1: from It's like you're from this that's automatic, and you're going,
Speaker 1: I understand that these kids are trying to make death row.
Speaker 1: This is Cat saying, they're trying to make death row.
Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to do with this, with that,
Speaker 1: But why would you go against that? To do that
Speaker 1: when you know I had to residence to go against
Speaker 1: anybody like there's nobody this too, it else. Those are
Speaker 1: the guys that you would choose not to go against
Speaker 1: at that point. It's in the environment. They got it,
Speaker 1: and it's not him individually, because everybody's greater than their
Speaker 1: absence than they are in the presence. His or is
Speaker 1: stronger than he is. He asked him about that. When
Speaker 1: he go get his arm broke and they joint them,
Speaker 1: they missed that part. He's gonna say he slipped fell
Speaker 1: on mind. Yeah, is there anybody fifty cent fears? Ever?
Speaker 1: Historically in life all of the situations. If you don't
Speaker 1: have fear, then you're not Then you're just not acknowledging
Speaker 1: danger point. Yeah, but you just you're just not stupid,
Speaker 1: Then you're not scared enohing. You watch that guy that
Speaker 1: just has a zero fear and say, yeah, we can
Speaker 1: get him. He's tough. We're gonna have a hard time
Speaker 1: chewing on him, but we're gonna get him. We get him.
Speaker 1: Like other than that, you just gotta pay attention to it.
Speaker 1: It's surrounded as things is going on, like and you
Speaker 1: say never never saying the toughest guy, I just I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do what I want to do. And then if
Speaker 1: I die in the process. I was doing what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do. Even the themes. Look, it's power the dollar, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get here, I come back, get rich or die trying. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: and the prices because that's already what I'm feeling, like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm in the process. It's the
Speaker 1: greatest thing is to watch me because either I'm going
Speaker 1: to get rich or I'm gonna die in the process.
Speaker 1: And this is what I'm gonna call the record. So
Speaker 1: it was the massacre you projecting all the pain you
Speaker 1: felt on everybody else. I was supposed to go, but
Speaker 1: that album was supposed to come out February Age supposed
Speaker 1: to be the same Valentine's Day Master they pushed it
Speaker 1: back because we was doing too good with games record,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, Like you got to think in
Speaker 1: the scope was when East Coast West Coast was going on.
Speaker 1: In the scope was the West coast, So it's some
Speaker 1: uncomfortability with me being from the East coast. Yeah, then
Speaker 1: I'm not even conscious of Initially I'm going like yo,
Speaker 1: They're like yo, they love that, they're doing extremely well
Speaker 1: like that, but they're going to damn why we can't
Speaker 1: have one like from here, you see what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like from Drake's perspective, it's why why we can't have
Speaker 1: one from the West coast like that? And it's that's
Speaker 1: the assignment to a game started moving. It was like wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait to build that, Like what's that? That record is
Speaker 1: out in the selling They're going to wait, we don't
Speaker 1: want to cut the legs off of this, And you're going,
Speaker 1: but that's rearranging my presentation what I'm doing. So now
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't have given him things it was
Speaker 1: so good if I felt like it was going all
Speaker 1: to what I'm doing, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I did my first record so fast like the second record.
Speaker 1: My attempt that the first record went was done in
Speaker 1: the weekend, so did get rich? No, the second the
Speaker 1: massacre and that the attempt that was done in the
Speaker 1: weekend turns into games out. You regret giving game, you regret,
Speaker 1: hated to love it. This is how we do. Look,
Speaker 1: it's just the way things are. When I look, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't see anyone who's who hasn't um, who
Speaker 1: hasn't helped other artists and haven't had it reciprocated probably
Speaker 1: like that's what every everybody, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: even with Koda, you see him with jack Boy, the
Speaker 1: things that these guys come together because I'm told Code
Speaker 1: that he oh yo, but I didn't know we was
Speaker 1: gonna go through that. It's too hard, Like it's too
Speaker 1: hard to get it for us to go through that.
Speaker 1: So but now that's the same thing as what we
Speaker 1: experienced we looked down for like when they're not right
Speaker 1: under you, because they're in a different area, it's easy
Speaker 1: to persuade them. Like. This is also how Jimmy Henchman felt.
Speaker 1: This is what drive what how game was behaving because
Speaker 1: he also had his whole management team is going, yo,
Speaker 1: you don't need them from you got a whole coast,
Speaker 1: you got the whole West coast, Like you don't gotta
Speaker 1: be down with them. When he's I just gave him
Speaker 1: the record, you know what I'm saying, and then they
Speaker 1: go oh he flips out. I'm like, oh okay, but
Speaker 1: it is a reflection of you see how the Jimmy
Speaker 1: Henchman thing turned out, like the eight tons into real
Speaker 1: street stuff, you know what I'm saying. So you're going
Speaker 1: he was feeling that way along before, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and then then it just was like, yeah, full on,
Speaker 1: we could do everything we want to do. Vice first
Speaker 1: because Chris really his issues was with Chris, with Chris Lydy.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't like James Cruise, why I saw, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like I don't like him at all, Like
Speaker 1: because he's a sucker. Like the whole time he was
Speaker 1: like he was still going to go see Jimmy hanging out. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Jimmy's getting Mike Lighty cut in the back of the
Speaker 1: head and everything else and the shooting and everything else
Speaker 1: is going. He's a punk. Like when you see people
Speaker 1: that like they're just feel full of We said respect
Speaker 1: come from admiration of fear one of the others, right,
Speaker 1: His respect for Jimmy comes from fear. So he's a
Speaker 1: sucker in my eyes, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then he does all of this talk about things that
Speaker 1: went on with Chris Lydy. Then I'm like, yo, why
Speaker 1: are you even talking about what I'm doing? Come from me?
Speaker 1: You You was like you were in the meeting. You
Speaker 1: didn't actually make no deals. I thought he said he
Speaker 1: managed you. At one point he was working for Chris Lydy.
Speaker 1: So you in there as Chris Lady's assistant while you're
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing in the deal, and when did
Speaker 1: you He never had no agreement with me to manage
Speaker 1: me in anyway or any capacity. So when you say that,
Speaker 1: it irritates me, you know what I'm saying that Then
Speaker 1: like later he's just he's a sucker. I didn't understand
Speaker 1: why Chris wanted him around, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like when the shooting happened with little kim O d
Speaker 1: Rod hating him, Yo, come out from behind the red car.
Speaker 1: They got us. That's what he was doing, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm like. And the Chris was like like dealing
Speaker 1: with him because he had, you know, like a background.
Speaker 1: He was because he had a radio background. He always
Speaker 1: looked like he should get a piece. But if you're
Speaker 1: getting the best deal for me, why do you feel
Speaker 1: like somebody should get your piece. That's the way I
Speaker 1: look at it. I look like if you go to
Speaker 1: somebody else to say, yo, you should get me a watch,
Speaker 1: or you should get me this, That's that was his thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that, I'm like, but if
Speaker 1: you're asking them for a watch. Then you felt like
Speaker 1: you gave him a deal to then you didn't get
Speaker 1: me the best deal if you if he owes your
Speaker 1: watch for the deal. You see what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then it's like they act like they don't understand why
Speaker 1: I don't like him. Between you, Diddi and Crews, I
Speaker 1: don't think you'd have worked on bad Boy. I don't
Speaker 1: think terrible, but you know, I look at that point,
Speaker 1: I would have probably did the deal. There was no
Speaker 1: other like at that point. But when I was, when
Speaker 1: I was Jennifer who told Puff to work with me
Speaker 1: okay because she her first album want to Say Boy.
Speaker 1: Rooney was the executive producer. Borey Rooney was my executive
Speaker 1: producer for Power of the Doubt. So we had the
Speaker 1: relationship from Queens and everything coming out that they put
Speaker 1: us in the same circles. And then Jennifer was telling Yo,
Speaker 1: he is dope. You work with him like he's gonna
Speaker 1: it's gonna eventually it's gonna happen, you know. And then Puff,
Speaker 1: that's what Puff is calling me down to do it.
Speaker 1: But Puff can't even hear hit. See I know he can't.
Speaker 1: He couldn't Puff can't hear a hit. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: He still hear things from back then that time, Oh
Speaker 1: got you? Now I can't buy the right. He can't.
Speaker 1: You play for him right now and it's hot, he
Speaker 1: can't buy it. This is why he's fighting Drake when
Speaker 1: you hit Drake because he used the beat that he
Speaker 1: didn't actually you know what I'm saying. So if you like,
Speaker 1: he heard it and then he heard Drake's used it,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't a hit yet until Drake put the
Speaker 1: thing the lines are and he's upset about that because
Speaker 1: he can't hear it. But he felt like he took
Speaker 1: something from and you know there's something to him for that.
Speaker 1: But did terr Marie ever pay you all your money yet?
Speaker 1: She's still how much? Just love that old I think
Speaker 1: it's like fifty something thousand now, I thought it was
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand. Yeah, and it keeps going up because
Speaker 1: she keeps delaying and moving around like the she gonna
Speaker 1: feel like she went to college. Man, it's clearly the
Speaker 1: principle with you because it's not the money. Why though,
Speaker 1: because I have to set examples so people don't keep
Speaker 1: coming to play with me. See, look, this is Lisa Bloom.
Speaker 1: I don't think nobody played, but I don't think nobody
Speaker 1: plays with the said me too. I say not me.
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying When they say me too, I said, na me,
Speaker 1: I'm not involved with that. So when she comes, she
Speaker 1: was upset because I said something about Trey Trey Songs
Speaker 1: had a situation that was going on one of the
Speaker 1: girls that was around in the actual house set. Nah,
Speaker 1: he didn't hit her that particular situation. He didn't hit it.
Speaker 1: He put out out the house, but the way he
Speaker 1: said it and he did it made her feel like
Speaker 1: she felt like he slapped her right, and that's why
Speaker 1: later she said that he hit her. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: because the other female that I knew it was there
Speaker 1: said that to me. I was like, nah, I don't
Speaker 1: believe he did that. And then she was like, don't
Speaker 1: be uh, but she's shaming the girl that um one
Speaker 1: of her clients, Victim Shaman one of her clients. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, like, I'm not Victim Shaman. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I don't believe her. And then the next
Speaker 1: available thing that she could come with, she was, oh, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: jumped on Tara Marie think because she's gonna come, she
Speaker 1: gonna service me, right, she gonna because the climate is
Speaker 1: all me too. That when you bring a female and
Speaker 1: you said you've done something. You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: they felt like, oh yeah, yeah, you're finished, buddy. And
Speaker 1: then when it don't work out, they think it just
Speaker 1: goes away. You can't say that you see what they came.
Speaker 1: But that was a great I understand. I understand exactly
Speaker 1: why he's doing ten times. I get it because they
Speaker 1: would hold it to you, yes, yes, and then you
Speaker 1: know what they would do to you, like just based
Speaker 1: on those circumstances, like you go in in the entire
Speaker 1: career and you go so that's what you was attempting
Speaker 1: to do at that point or you wanted She's said
Speaker 1: to a friend, now I'm trying to get the bag.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that. I'm like, okay, so
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna make you feel like you went to college.
Speaker 1: Ko Cyrus, are you gonna help me get into acting?
Speaker 1: You want to do some acting? Anyone? He was up there.
Speaker 1: He said that you were supposed to sign put him
Speaker 1: in power, to put him in power. Good guy, it's
Speaker 1: a personality. I think it's bigger personality than than artist,
Speaker 1: like as a songwriter and stuff like that, because when
Speaker 1: you watch him, like when I see him on the
Speaker 1: clips and stuff like that, now he like that in person.
Speaker 1: It's a ton of personality there. So you know, will
Speaker 1: we find the right thing and get him in there?
Speaker 1: He um and tell him the story, Tell him the story.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about rumors, and you know when you
Speaker 1: google his name, there's a rumor that pops up that
Speaker 1: he was did He's boy toy? Oh shit? Right wait,
Speaker 1: so this is so Charlomagne say it's not true. But
Speaker 1: I told after he brought up the stuff with you,
Speaker 1: I said, you know what Fifthy is gonna say when
Speaker 1: he meet you? Oh no, I don't know that that
Speaker 1: was going on. You know, I can't wait to running
Speaker 1: him what you're gonna say to him? He was playing
Speaker 1: with your booty in Miami. You know it was in Miami. Yo.
Speaker 1: Look that's for James Cruisers all the time. Miami, Miami.
Speaker 1: He's like, Miami. I'm look what you're talking happened in Miami.
Speaker 1: We play the audio. He gonna get universe when it's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gonna you know, we just yeah, but come here,
Speaker 1: you know, if he's gonna say to you when he
Speaker 1: see he did he touch your button? Yeah? Waituntil I
Speaker 1: see him what I see. I'm like, yo, yeah, that's you.
Speaker 1: And did he got a good relationship though? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like do you see I got quin season raising canan?
Speaker 1: Oh that's true? Oh yeah yeah YEAHO talented and and
Speaker 1: I want to get Justin and something. How did that
Speaker 1: go to? Do you? Do? You have talked about that
Speaker 1: he stay out, stays out of that, you know what
Speaker 1: we're talking about that it was more, it's more that's
Speaker 1: about his talent though, that's not about like he read
Speaker 1: he read for that, he killed it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think, like and I called him to
Speaker 1: tell him that, like you ain't got to do with
Speaker 1: you that, it's really about the work you put in
Speaker 1: Right now, now, why did you pass on Jay Coole before?
Speaker 1: That's before we get to the new stuff. Why did
Speaker 1: you pass on Jay Coole? That was so early? Bro,
Speaker 1: Like like this is before Like I think, look, there's
Speaker 1: a difference, you know, I think when at that point
Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot of representation on the street,
Speaker 1: and like we were the representation at that point, and
Speaker 1: you know they're they're cringing for something else that whatever
Speaker 1: it is, that it's to me. J cole Um, Kendrick
Speaker 1: lamar Um. These artists existed early on when I fell
Speaker 1: in love with hip hop. But it was Tyler qual Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was most deaf, tropical questions, It's trip coal quest
Speaker 1: It was like, it was Tyler most common sense, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And they really as dope as
Speaker 1: they are, like that they are that it's like, it's
Speaker 1: smarter rap, smarter music. The logic can sit down, be humble.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to already know to sit down and be humble.
Speaker 1: They put that there. It's it's it's almost the conscious
Speaker 1: side of of it. And I looked and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I was cool, but I didn't really know
Speaker 1: if everybody was ready for it because of how strong
Speaker 1: it was embracing what were doing street stuff that I
Speaker 1: got a lot of people say that when you and
Speaker 1: Kanye went head up, and that's what that was when
Speaker 1: you sold them, when you sold more, it shifted from
Speaker 1: the streets streets to know when you do Look, they
Speaker 1: just wanted that anyway, Look, look at the best New
Speaker 1: Artists a thirteen million records. On the first album, you
Speaker 1: got to have a double CD and Die to Go
Speaker 1: Diamond Tupac or Eyes on Me. Yeah. Prior to my
Speaker 1: album Come and Give It to Die Try, you had
Speaker 1: to have a double CD and Die a big two.
Speaker 1: I think likely those are the only two albums that
Speaker 1: they sold that many copies. So when you come and
Speaker 1: and you're having that much success, you would see uh.
Speaker 1: Dianel Ross was on on the award panels saying, you
Speaker 1: don't have to be like this, like you don't have
Speaker 1: to be like like they're afraid their kids going want
Speaker 1: to be fifty if they acknowledge the material, so they
Speaker 1: don't give you the trophies. I got the checks. I
Speaker 1: didn't get Jake got all of my fucking trophies. Man,
Speaker 1: that's because he signed that contract. Who contract. No, if
Speaker 1: you don't sign, you don't give him a trophy. She
Speaker 1: ain't coming. They don't need him in the seats. Now,
Speaker 1: come on, you know Beyonce and I ran down on
Speaker 1: you once fifth come on. She did she did work.
Speaker 1: She jumped up in the thing off collect I was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, I didn't really know what to do and
Speaker 1: be looking. It was worse situations where he was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: he says to Jay. He says, Ja, he'll look at
Speaker 1: you a goal. No, that happened. Beyonce jumped down on you.
Speaker 1: She jumped out. She was like on a window sill
Speaker 1: right who was in Vegas? She said, I come on talking.
Speaker 1: She jumped out. She was like, and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: what did you doing that? Stuff? And stuff? This ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with you girl? Come so hod
Speaker 1: wasn't there me. I'm talking to Jail and I talked
Speaker 1: to Jay. She jumped out and come over, said, old ship,
Speaker 1: look at this about to jump you Lucky so luge
Speaker 1: wasn't I would have had a reboot like that elevator
Speaker 1: like it was nothing some gastes shit going on? Nothing?
Speaker 1: What the bay? She was just staring at you now,
Speaker 1: she can't like she was ready, like something was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, whoaa, she's throwing me off now
Speaker 1: because I don't know what exactly how to respond it.
Speaker 1: You are still beyond sane, you know. She brought all
Speaker 1: of the sexy over that jumping off and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck I'm seeing all this I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: what happened? I look at Jail. He goes Now, but
Speaker 1: y'all knew each other. For you though you had you
Speaker 1: had the thugs. What I want? Yeah? Yeah, that's the cap.
Speaker 1: You know that Beyonce back fifty down? You know that.
Speaker 1: I thought people do that people. Oh she did jump down.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know how to respond to that. I
Speaker 1: just looked at Jay. He was looking at He was like,
Speaker 1: I said, all right, whatever, I don't know what because
Speaker 1: we really I'm just saying, what's up? But she feeling
Speaker 1: my energy come over? Because we do say things about
Speaker 1: each other. It's competitive nature. That's it hip hop at
Speaker 1: It's not like I didn't want to do something more.
Speaker 1: We don't want to do something not to each other.
Speaker 1: Y'all gotta go. Y'all still got y'all got a good relationship, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: If you look, I think if you don't have, if
Speaker 1: you don't have people that you're competing with, I don't
Speaker 1: know where you get your additional energy. Right. That's speaking
Speaker 1: speaking of Houston's Renee. Renee's like cut my Tycoo weekend.
Speaker 1: They take to me thirty six thousands Tycoon Weekend break Down.
Speaker 1: What is tip a weekend for people that don't know
Speaker 1: Tycoon for it's really it started in Atlanta and and
Speaker 1: did it the first time. We did it in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Then we moved it to let we break it down.
Speaker 1: So in Atlanta they rented a mansion in a residential
Speaker 1: area and had about five thousand people coming that residential area,
Speaker 1: white people walking their dogs, and we just brought the
Speaker 1: hood to I mean, I don't even know how you
Speaker 1: did that. Yeah, it was like a real show that
Speaker 1: we did, like a show. Everybody Christmas there, everybody came.
Speaker 1: We did that. Then the next day it was the
Speaker 1: pool party thing and it went over. We got away
Speaker 1: with that because there's nothing really, nothing bad happened, resulted
Speaker 1: in just a great time. Then in New York we
Speaker 1: did it again, but we did it attached to the
Speaker 1: premiere the Power of Man. So we sold the gardeners
Speaker 1: sold out and we did the because I had all
Speaker 1: of everybody coming out to do some performances stuff at
Speaker 1: the same time. So we did talk on around it
Speaker 1: and that was a uma in Jersey and then um
Speaker 1: we surrounded a bunt, tried to surround more events with it,
Speaker 1: like Pier one fifteen and a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 1: And then the next time, like this time in Houston,
Speaker 1: there's so many locations that it makes it made better
Speaker 1: sense to build out a whole weekend, and so I
Speaker 1: took the Toyota Center and the Comedy Music Festival. I
Speaker 1: added the comedy show to it, and then I put
Speaker 1: um like musical acts in between each comedian and keep
Speaker 1: the room the abians going, and then the same way
Speaker 1: the DJ would play music in between. Instead of that,
Speaker 1: we're getting the five artists and then when the proceeds
Speaker 1: to that will go to the Unity and enter HID.
Speaker 1: So you don't even make no money over it. That's
Speaker 1: not charity. That's the entrepreneurship program. In Houston, I did
Speaker 1: three schools versus with Lee Worthing and cash Man, and
Speaker 1: I'm spending it to six schools, and then the proceeds
Speaker 1: from the show, we're probably fund being able to do
Speaker 1: even more so probably probably nine schools. But though that
Speaker 1: by at that point we out of the hood, because
Speaker 1: we don't gonna run out of the hood spots, and
Speaker 1: then we and everybody else's neighborhood with adopter school program.
Speaker 1: But entrepreneurship program is doing extremely well. It's when you
Speaker 1: put when you bring the kids together and you tell
Speaker 1: them you got to come up with your idea to
Speaker 1: be successful because it's their idea. You see how much
Speaker 1: more passionate there about it. And then when it gets
Speaker 1: to the point that they sort out that because they're
Speaker 1: providing the information for them how to develop it, and
Speaker 1: then they're gonna see what you need now, and they said,
Speaker 1: well we need money and then go well, okay, well
Speaker 1: here's how we fell out your job application. When you
Speaker 1: do that, seventy five sixty nine of the seventy five
Speaker 1: kids were employed because it's not even your idea, it's
Speaker 1: my idea. I need the money so I can pay
Speaker 1: for my idea. Wow, Versus you're saying, yo, go get
Speaker 1: a job. They're like, nah, I don't know if if
Speaker 1: I want a job because it's too much, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Until once they put their thought into
Speaker 1: what they actually want to do and they become passionate
Speaker 1: about it, they get into it, they actually want to
Speaker 1: make it happen. So it was able to get more
Speaker 1: of a motivated to do some different stuffs. So much
Speaker 1: you know what, my experience in Houston, it's just been
Speaker 1: kind acts. Some people from Houston, like I've had a
Speaker 1: good time several times that I went out there and
Speaker 1: made me like it. And then the taxes, ye say taxes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at all. I guess the Yankee hat, bro,
Speaker 1: So they gave me was a Yankee hat, and they
Speaker 1: want now you go so more than your partner. I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I could have the wonder Puffy's touching
Speaker 1: that button Miami. He has more money because this Miami.
Speaker 1: That's what happens, bro. Now you do think about you
Speaker 1: like when you know much money we could be making
Speaker 1: if we was in not New York. It's a different thing.
Speaker 1: Like it's just look and y'all syndicated so many places
Speaker 1: that YA can just move the shoulder. Let's take the
Speaker 1: show to Houston. Don't give us no idea. I'll be
Speaker 1: in South Carolina. No, I mean Florida. That's straight like that.
Speaker 1: I go to Houston in a minute for that. So
Speaker 1: when's the weekend? With that weekend? It's August twenty fifth
Speaker 1: through to twenty eight. Okay, a couple more questions you, um,
Speaker 1: how have you even been able to maintain relationships with
Speaker 1: people even though you have said things about them? Like
Speaker 1: the Doctor Dre's the Jimmy Ivens, like like Drey had
Speaker 1: you at the super Bowl. I don't think you know,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Ivien will walk by you at the game like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like you know? Still look
Speaker 1: when you say when I say things like I'm really
Speaker 1: talking about the true experience, I'm not saying anything about them.
Speaker 1: That's a lot like you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: didn't be upset, did you? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And maybe this person can't speak to you when they
Speaker 1: see you because you said something and you'd like lied
Speaker 1: on them. But if you you said f Jimmy V
Speaker 1: on the record on a mixtape, because he gave examples.
Speaker 1: It gave examples that it's okay as long as it
Speaker 1: makes money. Oh god, okay to disrespect you. So it's
Speaker 1: okay for a game to say everything that he said
Speaker 1: because he was still an earner. He's still bringing the money.
Speaker 1: And this is the example that you gave me because
Speaker 1: he brought me that and said, if you can you
Speaker 1: fix this, if you fix it out, I'll give you,
Speaker 1: like break the deal up and give you the half
Speaker 1: of the money. And then when when the disrespect comes in, there,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's almost a fear factor because of
Speaker 1: the association of the Jimmy Hensiman thing. Add that to
Speaker 1: it because that kept them from not not doing the project.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And then there's a whole different,
Speaker 1: different thing. But in that example of you saying, you
Speaker 1: can say all that and look, if you signed the
Speaker 1: unit direct like the other or with that kind of disrespect,
Speaker 1: you don't have a record deal, you don't have music
Speaker 1: coming out. Instead, because it was a joint venture, there
Speaker 1: was still no control factor and they continue to put
Speaker 1: the music out. So it was like, you're letting me
Speaker 1: compete with me so you can make money, right the
Speaker 1: artist that comes from the material that I just created,
Speaker 1: that that made it sell five million pieces, It is
Speaker 1: now a legit competitor for me. When how about the
Speaker 1: label when you're delivering something that's pro fitty saying you're
Speaker 1: delivering something that's anti fifty said, aren't you telling the
Speaker 1: DJ's okay to say whatever you feel about it? But bro,
Speaker 1: I heard you ship on TV networks and then get
Speaker 1: a deal from the same TV network because they don't
Speaker 1: care about They're not one person. The network is a conglomerate.
Speaker 1: There's multiple people there. Like when you say this person,
Speaker 1: isn't it but you said that before? Yeah, like this person.
Speaker 1: You're talking about this person, not the entire organization. And
Speaker 1: you're gonna if when the projects working on projects. No,
Speaker 1: it's just true, like these people have issues, Like you
Speaker 1: got people that have cool jobs that weren't necessarily cool
Speaker 1: people on the way there and they get there and
Speaker 1: they're dealing with their own issues, their own energy. They're
Speaker 1: like looking for they want to be seen as the CEO,
Speaker 1: the guy who actually made it happen. And I get
Speaker 1: in away with that because people look and say, fifty mate,
Speaker 1: that's fifty show. You see what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 1: get that energy only it's there. If that's a conflict.
Speaker 1: Anybody that doesn't doesn't care about that. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: like so we watching stars or not anymore? Because you
Speaker 1: say I thought it was no subscription. Yeah, programmers for
Speaker 1: six months. That's what I thought. It's gonna come back,
Speaker 1: So I give my subscription back. I want to make
Speaker 1: sure it was all stars. You say all stars. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be where it was what it was,
Speaker 1: where it was headed because I won't be loading everything
Speaker 1: else going to it, but they have this would be
Speaker 1: there and then the new stuff that I have, like
Speaker 1: I took the massacre, the snoops. It was the case
Speaker 1: different things off of the platform because it's like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm doing too much for the platform if you go
Speaker 1: look when I didn't received the accolades connected to the
Speaker 1: success that I was having. In music, I focused on
Speaker 1: the actual sound scan. This is when the artists started
Speaker 1: talking about sound scale correct and everything else, because I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, now look because this is the actual stats,
Speaker 1: the actual this is what shows you the general public
Speaker 1: actual response to the material when I'm not receiving the
Speaker 1: accolades connected to it. In television, I started marketing more
Speaker 1: over marketing, like I became the Stars Network, so it
Speaker 1: was more visibility and make I said, I'm outperforming the
Speaker 1: shows that they are given the nod too, so they
Speaker 1: see we're doing bigger numbers than those shows. Right, and
Speaker 1: then eventually they have to look at the issue is
Speaker 1: a tougher issue to work through because what we're working
Speaker 1: through is diversity and be like they looking and the
Speaker 1: system does have this cookie cutter mentality that feels like
Speaker 1: that this is the way you make a hit and
Speaker 1: you can put people with different ethnic backgrounds and lead
Speaker 1: roles into big numbers. You can tell those stories and
Speaker 1: this is what power proves and these other projects. When
Speaker 1: you see Empire at Fox and then Snowfall and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, whenever you just see people that look like
Speaker 1: you and leave Rose, it's showing you that that's there.
Speaker 1: They're saying that Fox was saying this is our power
Speaker 1: in part the same the other network is saying this
Speaker 1: is our and and it's only one at the time
Speaker 1: for them. You know what I'm saying. You look look
Speaker 1: at how when you see the young talent like little
Speaker 1: meach or Michael Rainey or McCoy Curtis for Regent Cannan,
Speaker 1: when you see them out in the in the club
Speaker 1: run like in the nightclub, you never see actors on
Speaker 1: that circuit. You know what I'm saying, Like that was
Speaker 1: this is really the first time they're making a connection,
Speaker 1: and it's because they're connected not only to having a
Speaker 1: hit show, but they're connected to music culture. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think people will realize what you're
Speaker 1: doing at Stars Like I don't think people I don't
Speaker 1: pine Pople realize how unprecedented that is, Like how much
Speaker 1: programming are you responsible for over there? Like fifty Well yeah,
Speaker 1: they would say fifty percent of it, and it's like
Speaker 1: probably eighty percent of what the viewership is into. Wow.
Speaker 1: At that point, you pull they put supposed to be
Speaker 1: an executive up there something. Then they're going if you're
Speaker 1: going with the confusion everything that you see me talk
Speaker 1: about being upset about, I think you don't see anywhere else,
Speaker 1: Like you don't see other networks having the television show leak. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't see you know what I'm saying, Like when
Speaker 1: they talk about a programming for specific demographic, then you go,
Speaker 1: uh like there was go a premium woman is the man?
Speaker 1: They when you do that, you go, okay, well, I
Speaker 1: mean but that ain't what your hits are because Power
Speaker 1: wasn't Premium Woman, and all four the spinoffs are not
Speaker 1: Premium Woman. So now you're saying you can't have the
Speaker 1: hit that you had to beget this drawing people here
Speaker 1: because you just created a new man date away from
Speaker 1: the success you have, right, and I'm going away, So
Speaker 1: it's this, Can you explain that to me a little
Speaker 1: further so I understand exactly what it is, because I
Speaker 1: could produce what you need. I just got to understand
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. Because what does when you see
Speaker 1: me in Variety or the Rap or Hollywood Reporter and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, that does nothing from my phone goes
Speaker 1: further than the Hollywood Reporter and Variety I could just right.
Speaker 1: So when when you think about what those things do,
Speaker 1: those things speak directly the business inside. It says, if
Speaker 1: you have this project and you want to sell it,
Speaker 1: you should come to fifties so we can sell it
Speaker 1: and I get additional things. But but I can look
Speaker 1: at these things if they work for the network. When
Speaker 1: you understand the mandate, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I'm going I can find what you need, if what
Speaker 1: you want, and bring it in and produce it for you.
Speaker 1: If you don't. If there's a once this clarity, it's clear.
Speaker 1: But they're looking and using it for their own identity.
Speaker 1: I don't. I hate mandates, especially when you've given a
Speaker 1: network four or five shows that work. Create more of
Speaker 1: those type of shows. But they take common sense. It
Speaker 1: doesn't take it. It doesn't take anybody to come up
Speaker 1: with some like Einstein to be involved. It's say, it's
Speaker 1: got to go to by the way. Oh yeah, but
Speaker 1: if you make a hit, you want more of a hit,
Speaker 1: more of that energy, more that that with service, that
Speaker 1: base that would keep them coming. And you see the
Speaker 1: networkers continues to growing. But in in exchange, I've seen
Speaker 1: them do things for vanity, like they'll pay more for
Speaker 1: first of all, their premium woman. Man did this premium
Speaker 1: white woman because since then, the only thing that they've
Speaker 1: created was the uh Julia Roberts gas lit and h
Speaker 1: Courtney Cox. I don't even know the name of that
Speaker 1: watching pink people worship because it's like it's almost like
Speaker 1: a horror comedy. Hard to make me laugh when I'm scared,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's hard to do
Speaker 1: both at the same time. So I didn't know what
Speaker 1: really was trying to do with that one. But you know,
Speaker 1: you better do the right thing, because you know, I
Speaker 1: there's no reason to watch stars if program about it's
Speaker 1: just a fact. We appreciate you for joining us August
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