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Speaker 2: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 5: Enough of him.

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Speaker 7: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 9: I always look forward to doing this show, but especially

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Speaker 9: so today. It is Monday, August ninth, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 9: Episode three twelve of the annek and Florian Podcast. Mom's Basement.

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Speaker 9: Last week, I'm in my son's bedroom. It's not a nursery.

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Speaker 9: He's fucking three. I'm in my son's bedroom today. So

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Speaker 9: if I lean this way, you see the clouds on

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Speaker 9: the wall, and I have the alphabet over my right shoulder.

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Speaker 5: Is what it is?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 5: You know my house is falling apart. We're fixing it.

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Speaker 5: And when your studio is in your master bedroom, what

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Speaker 5: are you gonna do?

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 8: I like the background. The clouds are cute, man, I

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Speaker 8: like it.

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Speaker 5: Thanks.

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Speaker 9: So, So I'm in Hunt's room today and we are

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Speaker 9: ready to come at you with our UFC two sixty

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Speaker 9: five recap. We will also be joined by PFL lightweight

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Speaker 9: contender Kayla Harrison. So what does she the former champion

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Speaker 9: and a contender now because she's in the tournament.

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Speaker 5: Do I have that right?

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Speaker 8: Exactly? New year, a new season.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, all right, just make it sure. New

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 9: So we're gonna talk to Kayla Harrison towards the end

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Speaker 9: of the program, and I'm just so inspired by her story.

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Speaker 9: So I'm looking forward to that long ago coming up

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Speaker 9: in about fifteen minutes if he is awake, and we

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Speaker 9: have a lot to get to because UFC two to

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Speaker 9: sixty five was an absolute monster. What a pay per

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Speaker 9: view in Houston, Texas and we will begin headlines there

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Speaker 9: with Siddlegan, who is the UFC's interim heavyweight Champion. Total

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Speaker 9: domination doesn't even begin to describe it. He eventually got

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Speaker 9: Derek Lewis out of there by TKO. I thought the

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Speaker 9: referee gave the Black Beasts a lot of chances to

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Speaker 9: intelligently defend and stay in the fight. Siddle Goan is

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Speaker 9: ten and ozer. He is all the rage, rightfully so,

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Speaker 9: and he's taken a shiny new UFC Interim championship belt

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Speaker 9: back to France once again.

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Speaker 8: I was blown away by Cyril gon.

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Speaker 6: You know, here's a guy who looked phenomenal against Volkoff,

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Speaker 6: again here against Derek Lewis.

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Speaker 8: And again.

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Speaker 6: How many guys can you point to that are ten

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Speaker 6: and zero that carry that same kind of skill, comfort

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Speaker 6: and mindset. There's just not many in the world periods.

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Speaker 6: He's an extremely, extremely talented athlete. Everyone talks about in

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Speaker 6: Ghan Whu's physical skills. I don't know many people that

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Speaker 6: away and again can we I'd love to see the

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Speaker 6: stats and John, you may actually have this in the

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Speaker 6: back of your head somewhere of how many.

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Speaker 8: Times that dude actually gets hit he does not get hit.

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Speaker 8: R mean, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: His defensive maneuvering in footwork and angles is something to behold.

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Speaker 6: He really is a special athlete. And I'm telling you, man,

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Speaker 9: What an athlete couldn't said it any better? You mentioned

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Speaker 9: the word mindset. What is it going to take to

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Speaker 9: But Ken flow like, I want to talk about the

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Speaker 9: physical gifts. I want to talk about all of the skills.

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Speaker 9: I want to talk about what you talked about, that

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Speaker 9: he's exceedingly hard to hit and offensively he doesn't miss.

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Speaker 9: But it's like, I keep coming back to the mentality,

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Speaker 9: he's just totally unfazed by all these atmospheric conditions. Crowd

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Speaker 3: He really is.

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Speaker 6: Again, this is a guy who is built different than

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Speaker 6: but again in his approach. I mean, here he is

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Speaker 8: He's completely unfazed. And then you know he talks about

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Speaker 8: it doesn't matter. I'm focused on the real heavyweight belt.

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Speaker 8: That's what I want. I'm going to go out there.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to win this fight. I mean, I was

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Speaker 8: just really blown away by his maturity, his approach, and

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Speaker 8: then again he's just a sniper out there as well.

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Speaker 6: It's rare that you see any UFC fighter in any

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Speaker 8: And you have a heavyweight who's moving like that, good luck.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly the kind of skill in footwork you need

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Speaker 9: After Jose Aldi's performance, I'm thinking to myself for a minute,

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Speaker 9: we might have to lead the podcast with the King

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Speaker 9: of Rio. And then God make sure that we did

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Speaker 9: not do that. Of course we're going to get to

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Speaker 9: all of that stuff. But as seedle Gan sort of

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Speaker 5: In our fighter meeting.

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Speaker 9: You know, everyone in the gym started before me, right,

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Speaker 9: I mean, and he is a total fucking phenom man,

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Speaker 9: Summarly betting line suggests that he is favored to beat

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Speaker 9: Francis and Gano. I think that fight is going to

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Speaker 9: command two way action. Most people seem to have a

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Speaker 9: we move on.

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Speaker 8: So you move on. Sorry to catch you off.

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Speaker 5: It's better be fucking good, because I'm flawing.

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Speaker 8: It's great. It's great.

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Speaker 10: The walkout of for Cyril Gone. Everyone thought that that

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Speaker 10: was by Paul Wall that's Mike Jones. That's a Mike

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Speaker 10: shouldn't be the one saying that. But just so that

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Speaker 5: So what does that mean to me? Mike Jones, what

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Speaker 5: does that mean to me? Because it seemed like was

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Speaker 5: he trying to mess with people in Houston or not?

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Speaker 8: Who Paula from Houston?

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Speaker 5: Okay, Mike John Jones, Mike Johnes, Mike Jones, Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't not learn you.

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Speaker 9: I know, I retired as a as a hip hop

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Speaker 9: authority in like nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm you know now I listen hip hop baby?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Sorry? How many how much credibility did I just lose?

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Speaker 9: With Cody interjecting there, and now I've effectively lost my

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Speaker 5: Uh, so that was really effective.

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Speaker 9: By the way, Sudlegan's brother David lives in Boston and

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Speaker 9: he's right there helping him with interpretation and incredible. So

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Speaker 9: I said at the end of the Fighter meeting, I like,

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Speaker 9: I like this fucking David Gon guy, you know, And

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Speaker 9: And Cody did politely ask if he could address something

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Speaker 9: about the Peado Gon walkout. So I digress. But in

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Speaker 9: I was going to talk about his strengthen conditioning coach

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Speaker 9: putting in all the right work, so did Derek Lewis.

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Speaker 9: And Derek Lewis said, in part the reason why he

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Speaker 9: Obviously you know he was hoping that there would be

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Speaker 5: I mean, what were your thoughts on Derek Lewis in defeat?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know what, listen, I think that Derek was

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Speaker 8: He's got a lot of power.

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Speaker 6: There were times where he did reel in Cyril Gone,

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Speaker 6: But so he had his opportunities, but I think at

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Speaker 8: He doesn't have that skill.

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Speaker 6: There's not a whole lot of heavyweights that do, and

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Speaker 6: Gone having that advantage and the speed advantage was huge.

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Speaker 8: So Lewis tried. He was really outgunned there against Gone.

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Speaker 6: It's more of a testament to how damn good Gone

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Speaker 6: is and not necessarily a knock on Derek Lewis. Derek

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Speaker 6: Lewis is always going to have that power. He's always

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Speaker 6: But Derek did his best. He just he doesn't have

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Speaker 4: That's what I want.

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Speaker 9: Oh can you center yourself up on that camera if

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Speaker 9: Hey, you came to me last week, so I don't

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Speaker 9: start with you and then you can send it to

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00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 9: the man who actually fought him. What do you make

441
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 9: of this soon to be thirty five year old version

442
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 9: of Jose Aldo Junior.

443
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 3: I like this version of Jose Aldo.

444
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 12: He really did a great job in is boxing his

445
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 12: point on. I mean basically just out boxed him. I

446
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 12: mean that's what he did at thirty five and I

447
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 12: thirty four, going to be thirty five. But you know

448
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 12: the thing is, you know these guys, they don't eat

449
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 12: right a year round.

450
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:16,959
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

451
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 12: So when you really dedicate yourself to the science of eating,

452
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 12: and there is a science, this is crazy how old

453
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 12: he is, and he makes this weight easier. I remember

454
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 12: people telling me, you know, like he was having trouble

455
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 12: at forty five, you know, but now he sounds lighter,

456
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 12: he's he's he's older, so everything's going against the grain.

457
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 12: So you know, I'm not the I'm not the diet

458
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 12: guy in the gym, but I know, like you know,

459
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 12: we had Tony Ricci. The guy was a genius. And

460
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 12: let me shout out to Tony Ricci too, because he

461
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 12: just left. He's down with you, John and Florida. Now,

462
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 12: so wow, you're gain all lost.

463
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 9: But oh, is he gonna come try to work on

464
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 9: my strength and conditioning and my nutrition. A lot of

465
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 9: people trying to, but no.

466
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 12: The point being is that there's a science there and

467
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 12: if you do the right thing, the weight's gonna come

468
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 12: off and you're gonna be better. There's just no question

469
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 12: about it. But a lot of guys look, they're not

470
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 12: gonna follow it. Jose Alto looks like he's he's doing

471
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 12: the right thing and he's making the weight easier. I

472
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 12: don't know if he's a five round fighter, but I'll

473
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 12: tell you it's gonna be hard to beat him in

474
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 12: three rounds for sure.

475
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 3: That's the He just looked.

476
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 12: He looks good, man, He really looked great, And uh,

477
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 12: just look at his attitude after the fight.

478
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 3: He's just a happy guy and just great for the sport.

479
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 12: He's a former champ doing the right things, it looks like,

480
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 12: and that's what I think, you know, I key in

481
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 12: on he just you know, he just looks like a

482
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 12: good dude and he's doing great. I thought, I thought,

483
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 12: I enjoy watching him fight. I thought, he you know,

484
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 12: he knows he's he's very patient. You know, he knows

485
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 12: how to pick his shots.

486
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 11: Uh.

487
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Speaker 3: He threw the kicks in just at the right time,

488
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 3: just to offset him to go back to the hands.

489
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 12: Great night against a real tough folk with Pressia type

490
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 12: of fighter, and Pedro Muno's just you know, but the

491
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 12: range just wasn't there for him, and he was just outdone.

492
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Speaker 5: Canceler.

493
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 6: You know, John, there are a lot of great fighters

494
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 6: in MMA right especially in the UFC. There are very

495
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 6: few MMA masters. I would consider Jose Aldo an MMA master.

496
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 6: He's a guy that can make even the most dangerous

497
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 6: fighters look okay. That to me is a sign of mastery.

498
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 6: And Pedro Munos is a very dangerous guy. He came

499
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 6: to fight, he was trying to get in Jose Aldo's face.

500
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 6: But when you have that kind of skill level and

501
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 6: you can make someone miss like that, and you have

502
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 6: so many different moves and tricks. To me, it looked

503
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 6: like teacher and student out there. I mean, Jose Aldo

504
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 6: is that good? And you know, to just piggyback on

505
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 6: what Ray said earlier, it shows his dedication. Here was

506
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 6: a guy that I heard rumors, right, I thought the

507
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 6: guy I was, you know, try to find as much

508
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 6: about the guys I could. He did have trouble making

509
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 6: one forty five? What did he do to make one

510
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 6: thirty five? Obviously it takes a tremendous amount of discipline,

511
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 6: and to do it in your mid thirties, after you've

512
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 6: already become a multiple time world champion in a different

513
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 6: weight class shows his dedication to martial arts, to the sport,

514
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 6: to himself. He is a true professional. And I think

515
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 6: the obvious statement of the year is that Josie Aldo

516
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 6: is a future Hall of Fame.

517
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 12: Wow, Well that goes without saying, yeah, that's a given.

518
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: They don't even vote on that. You just put him in.

519
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 9: So I guess then when I say to you guys that,

520
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 9: I get legitimately more nervous for my Jose Aldo fighter

521
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 9: meeting than my pay per view open to millions of

522
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 9: people for a Connor Dustin led pay per view, then

523
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 9: you would probably say, I get it right, Like, there's

524
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 9: just something about this guy and he has resonated with Americans.

525
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 9: I just have to say to such an extent without

526
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 9: even embracing the English language at all, compared to the

527
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 9: level of his fellow Brazilians. I mean, this guy just

528
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 9: I don't know, man, he just there's this star power

529
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 9: that just emanates off of this dude. And then to

530
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 9: be performing at this level, it's insane.

531
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Speaker 3: And he looks like he's just at a good space

532
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 3: in his life. Man.

533
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 12: He got to remember he got, you know, kind of

534
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 12: humiliated by Connor. That's not easy to come back from,

535
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 12: you know, that whole stressful.

536
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 5: I need to see them fight again. I need to

537
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 5: see them.

538
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 3: That would be.

539
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 6: That would be awesome too, even at one forty five.

540
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 6: I don't think Connor's We're going to make more forty five.

541
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 8: Maybe Aldo goes back to the.

542
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 5: Five, but no, it would have to be. It would

543
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 5: have to be.

544
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 9: I would think five or something fifty would be the

545
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 9: absolute lowest weight.

546
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 5: I would think lightweight fight.

547
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I think that that's a PJ as meet you.

548
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 12: I said, it's never gonna happen.

549
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 9: I can't now because Aldo is so wholly focused on

550
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 9: being a title contention and again he's literally flipped the

551
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 9: switch on the way he runs his life to be

552
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 9: to walk around as like a forty seven pound man.

553
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 6: You know, you know, the story of Aldo is another

554
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 6: one that they have a movie about him in Brazil.

555
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 6: But you know, a lot of people don't know he

556
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 6: came from nothing. He literally his home was the mats

557
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 6: over at Novounell so you know, Andrew pedernarras his gym,

558
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 6: and he would that's where he slept.

559
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: That that was his home.

560
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 6: Fighters and jiu jitsu guys like Leonardo Santos would come in.

561
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 6: Whatever extra change he had, he would give to Joseialdo

562
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 6: so he can go out and get lunch or breakfast

563
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 6: or something.

564
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 8: I mean, that's where he comes from.

565
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 6: And to see the level of success that he's accomplished

566
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 6: now in Brazil in the UFC as a former champion,

567
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 6: now he a business owner, successful business owner, and you know,

568
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 6: to see the kind of life that he's created for himself,

569
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 6: it's it's an amazing story.

570
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 12: A movie is on Netflix by the way, Yeah, and

571
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 12: John as a coach, just the you could see the

572
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 12: he stayed with the same team. He could have left,

573
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 12: He could have left after the loss, but you could see,

574
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 12: like the uh, just the closeness that him and Andre,

575
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 12: the bond that they have, I think. I mean, it's

576
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 12: just a great It really is a great story. And

577
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 12: the guy still has a lot of fight left in him.

578
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 12: But that's the other thing. He could have left. He

579
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 12: could have jumped around from Jim to Jim. He could

580
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 12: have let people get in his head. You should be

581
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 12: doing this, you should be doing that. But no, those

582
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 12: guys stayed together. And that's why I'm always going to

583
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 12: be a big Jose Aldo fan man that I think.

584
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 12: It's like, again, a great story, and you could see

585
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 12: it in the ring that night, you know what I mean.

586
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 12: That's that's a long time this guy's fighting. Yeah, still

587
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 12: have that type of bonding going on is fucking great.

588
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 5: You're wise to sort of bring up the Brazil angle.

589
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 9: He has been softly critical Kenny of fighters who have

590
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 9: left Brazil, you know, seeking greener pastures.

591
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 5: You know, he is super fond of Pedro Munoz as

592
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 5: a human being.

593
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 9: But he sort of said in a long form interview,

594
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 9: I read, you know, I don't really feel like I'm

595
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 9: fighting in Brazil. You moved to the United States in

596
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 9: twenty ten, you know. But a couple other things real quick.

597
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 9: On Jose Altol, just from our fighter meeting, you know,

598
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 9: we asked him about Patri He's like, other people should

599
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 9: be worried too, Like that's the level of his confidence

600
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,959
Speaker 9: even going into Munios fight. He's like, y'all don't understand,

601
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 9: like other people gonna be worried too, Like people are

602
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 9: focused on the weight cut. I forget my weight cut.

603
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 9: I would make the number you need, even to make

604
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 9: thirty four and a half. You know, I'll fucking do

605
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 9: that for you, you know, despite the way I look

606
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 9: in the face. But his will to win Kenny is

607
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 9: higher than it's ever been. Like he's putting in the

608
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 9: best training camps of his life right now.

609
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 8: Absolutely you could see that.

610
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 6: And again that Josie Aldo that showed up in round three, especially.

611
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 8: Does anybody beat that Jose Aldo.

612
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: I mean that.

613
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 6: Those are the kicks we used to see, those are

614
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 6: the combinations, those are the angles. I mean everything he

615
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 6: threw was just so sharp and precise. I mean, there

616
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 6: really is nothing you could fault him in that round four.

617
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 6: I mean the way that he was moving, he was

618
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 6: just at a whole different level. Not to say rounds

619
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 6: one and two were bad at all, they were, they

620
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 6: were very impressive as well. But round three Aldo, that

621
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 6: was vintage Aldough plus it was it was really pretty

622
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 6: to watch.

623
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

624
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 9: I did get a tech from Ray long ago during

625
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 9: the pay per view this weekend, and we will get

626
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 9: to that in a second.

627
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: I promise we'll get to that.

628
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: I'm blown away by whoever that guy is, and I'm

629
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: just well, heh.

630
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 9: He's telling me that I'm gonna be commentating tennis pretty soon,

631
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 9: so he doesn't seem to be a super nice guy either.

632
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 5: But uh really anyway, that's neither here nor there.

633
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 9: I just want to real quickly get your thoughts, uh,

634
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 9: And we don't have to go too long on this,

635
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 9: but Siedle Gone.

636
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 5: How special is he in your eyes?

637
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 9: And how do you forecast a matchup between him and

638
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 9: Francis if you don't mind.

639
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: H Man first or very special, more special than he

640
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: was last week.

641
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: Yes, that's a great way to put it.

642
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

643
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 12: It definitely look and Gano and and Derek Lewis. They

644
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 12: looked at each other for three rounds. Right, this is

645
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 12: my takeaway. They looked nobody. I don't know if anybody

646
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 12: landed a punch. It was a horrible fight, right, They

647
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 12: were very, very cautious.

648
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: This guy didn't care. This guy, you know, look even

649
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: between him and although the use of the jab alone

650
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: was phenomenal.

651
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 12: Right, they just set everything up off the jam. They

652
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 12: were pot shotting, or at least Cyril was, you know,

653
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 12: pot shotting.

654
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: But he wasn't afraid. He took his time like he

655
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: always does.

656
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 12: He's a very patient, well thought out, calm, cool, collective

657
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 12: fighter who when he gets you in trouble, it's a

658
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 12: different animal, you know.

659
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: So he's got great killer instink.

660
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 12: When he gets you in trouble, he's willing to wait

661
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Speaker 12: for that opportunity and not overextend himself and make mistakes.

662
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Speaker 12: I saw a really, really special guy that night against

663
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 12: a guy that you know, like Again, even though the

664
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 12: odds were in were huge in Cyril's favor at any

665
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 12: given point in time, this other guy could get yeah there,

666
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 12: We've seen it a hundred times in the past.

667
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: But this guy, I mean, he took him apart and

668
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: he knocked him out. I mean, that's that's not easy

669
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: to do.

670
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 5: I mean easily, not even in the best version of

671
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 5: Derek Lewis by far.

672
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: Was the Yeah, yeah, I know, Derek Lewis looked like,

673
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: you know, he came the fight.

674
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 12: But yeah, this guy is definitely special and I would

675
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 12: say he will be the favorite going into that Angano

676
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 12: fight just based on that reason.

677
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, very interesting stuff, all right.

678
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 9: Again, I didn't think we would get to this Rafael

679
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 9: Phazeve Bobby Green fight and the ensuing scorecards before we

680
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 9: talked about like Vicente Luke, but that we need to

681
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 9: do this, Okay, we need to.

682
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: Tell me about this.

683
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Speaker 9: Right, So Rafael Fhazive defeats Bobby Green in the featured

684
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 9: prelim by unanimous decision twenty nine to twenty eight times two. Right,

685
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 9: because I think most of the masses, as well as

686
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 9: two of the three judges score rounds one and two

687
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 9: for rafaelas even round three for Bobby Green. But the

688
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 9: third scorecard was thirty to twenty seven for Rafael Phazi

689
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 9: So when I was I didn't even hear it announced

690
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 9: a lot, but certainly when Bobby Green heard that thirty

691
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 9: to twenty seven he thought assuredly he had won the fight,

692
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 9: because he knew that maybe he didn't win round one

693
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 9: or two, but certainly he had won round three. So

694
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 9: my daughters are ten and eight. They don't know the

695
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 9: scoring criteria. And I didn't even think ray for this

696
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 9: third round, that they really needed to know the criteria.

697
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 5: So I just sat them down.

698
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 9: I said, can you guys just give me five minutes,

699
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 9: just watch this round and tell me who you think won.

700
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 5: And they finished watching the round. They're like, are you

701
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 5: trying to like trick us or something?

702
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 7: Like?

703
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: We thought Green one?

704
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 8: What do you you know?

705
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: So?

706
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 5: But again I don't know. So the MMA masses are upset.

707
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 9: I've you know, obviously, there are a lot of judges

708
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 9: who historically have a track record of a lot of

709
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 9: bad scorecards. I can't I'm not even going to utter

710
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 9: this judge's name. I don't really care about that. But

711
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 9: all the profighters are coming to Bobby Green's defense because

712
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 9: this scorecard was was an absolute disgrace in the eyes

713
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 9: of men.

714
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, look, you gotta go by something that.

715
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 12: I was like, Bobby Green, I go out of giving

716
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 12: them the fight and let me tell you rounds one

717
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 12: and two. I think round one was I looking obviously

718
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 12: that was the score to fight, but it was a

719
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 12: very close fight.

720
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: Bobby Green walked him down.

721
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 12: I think he took away that guy's offense enough to

722
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 12: where he just broke him down in the third round.

723
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 12: But when I heard already twenty seven, you have to

724
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 12: go with that too, because that was such an obvious round, Like,

725
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 12: how do you how can you fuck that round up?

726
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 12: That's impossible, It's totally impossible. And for a guy to

727
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 12: defend that is even worse. And that's why I say

728
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 12: sometimes I agree masses have to hear these guys talk

729
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 12: so they can out them themselves.

730
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: They'll get on social media and they'll.

731
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 12: Bury the guy. You cannot defend that. Bobby Green won

732
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 12: that round. I mean like he looked great in that round,

733
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 12: and I could see Bobby thinking he won the fight.

734
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 12: I mean, there's no question about it. But man, that

735
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 12: is that That's just awful.

736
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, kens me.

737
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Speaker 3: And this really is for Bobby Green because I don't

738
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: want that. I think he's been looking great lately. I

739
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: don't want to.

740
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, I wouldn't like to see him get mentally beaten

741
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 12: down by some mental deficient who has no clue as

742
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 12: to what he's doing.

743
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 5: Kenny.

744
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 9: That's the issue, right, is that this judge, now, in

745
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 9: defense of his scorecard, seems to be more worried about

746
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 9: what he perceives to be public shaming that he is

747
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 9: worried about the athlete.

748
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 5: Right, Not once has he expressed anything about the athletes.

749
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 13: You know, That's the thing, man. You know, it's okay

750
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 13: if you make a mistake, it's okay. But yeah, go

751
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 13: ahead and defend that and act like, hey, you know

752
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 13: I got it right.

753
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 6: Guys, you know, there wasn't and Cody's just you know,

754
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 6: texting us now no judges on emanmadecisions dot Com had

755
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 6: at thirty twenty seven.

756
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 5: There wasn't no media members, right, you know what I'm saying.

757
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 6: So it's like, man, again, you and I don't The

758
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 6: numbers don't always tell the story. But when you see

759
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 6: that kind of disparity in the amount of strikes that

760
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 6: Bobby Green landed and the kind of strikes that he

761
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 6: landed on Physia, it's like, come on, I mean some

762
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 6: of a lot of those shots, I mean, Physia, as

763
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 6: tough as he is, was kind of you know, turn

764
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 6: away and kind of flinching.

765
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 8: And kind of backing up. I mean, I thought it

766
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 8: was a pretty clear round for Green. I mean I again,

767
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 8: I was just kind of shocked. And you know, it's tough.

768
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 8: There is a lot of eyes watching the sport.

769
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 6: You're gonna get a lot of criticism that that's kind

770
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 6: of the nature of what you do, what I do,

771
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 6: what the fighters do, and all that stuff. But for

772
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 6: a referee to go in there and try to, you know,

773
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 6: say hey that you know you're wrong again, I think

774
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 6: you need to go back. There needs to be some

775
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 6: kind of accountability, you know, talk to other officials, talk

776
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 6: to other referees, judges, fighters.

777
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 8: See what went wrong, and let's get it better.

778
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 6: Let's fix this, because again, if it was any closer,

779
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 6: this could have determined a lot for both of these fighters,

780
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 6: right as we know it does the UFC fights, you know,

781
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 6: being a professional fighter, these are big, These are make

782
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 6: or break spots for these guys. It could be the

783
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 6: difference between you know, you know, hundreds of thousands or

784
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 6: million dollars for these Bobby Green, your career changes.

785
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 9: So yeah, But like Bobby Green is trying to he

786
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 9: has three different children, and I think in three different spots,

787
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 9: you know, he's trying to buy a third house. And

788
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 9: again this didn't affect the outcome, right, he still got

789
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 9: a fifty thousand dollars bonus, but largely this not affecting

790
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 9: the outcome is neither here nor there. We're talking about

791
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 9: singularly the way a paid judge is scoring a round,

792
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 9: and this was not a hard round to score. Despite

793
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 9: his best intentions to try to push that message out

794
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 9: to the public, I have not found a single high

795
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 9: profile fighter or coach who scored round three for Raphael Phazi.

796
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 9: And as soon as this laptick called out my credibility,

797
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 9: I booked Mark Goddard on the show next week. So

798
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 9: Mark Goddard is going to give you know, Mark Goddard

799
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 9: is about as credible a resource as I can find

800
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 9: in the space. So so I immediately, you know, went

801
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 9: in that direction. So anybody who has any questions on

802
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 9: the scoring front. I didn't want to bog it down

803
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 9: with that today, but just a really disappointing thing that happened.

804
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: You know, the guy had the guy had the bulls

805
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: to insult you over that the thing.

806
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 5: But I don't even care. It's not about me, his

807
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 5: name and the post, and.

808
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 12: It's not about that nobody cares about that, but it's

809
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 12: principal that this guy would do that. I mean, I

810
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 12: think that's goes to show you how bad it is.

811
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: It's just stupid.

812
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 9: Well, and anyone who's listening to this podcast knows that

813
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 9: we have tried to dig into the scoring and study

814
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 9: it and talk about affecting change and what could be

815
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 9: done to make things better. But man, that is really something,

816
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 9: you know, that is really something. You guys got anything

817
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 9: else on that before we move on. I mean, Rafael Phazeve,

818
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 9: I think, is a guy who's going to draw top

819
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 9: fifteen opposition. And you know, I was talking to Danny Rubinstein,

820
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 9: Rafeael Phazive's manager, you know, who certainly didn't think his

821
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 9: fighter won the third round, but he won the fight,

822
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 9: and he said, you know, this is a little bit

823
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 9: disappointing because at least in the next week, you know,

824
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 9: because of that scorecard, there's going to be more discourse

825
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 9: about that judge's scorecard than there is going to be

826
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 9: about Rafael Fhazive's performance.

827
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 3: You know.

828
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 8: So, I mean he's still a killer. He's still a killer.

829
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 8: You got a good one.

830
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still a killer. But I got to give

831
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 3: it up to Bobby Green Man. He didn't. She didn't

832
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: give up a fucking inch at fight Man against throwing, he.

833
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 8: Coming forward, He ate a lot of leg kicks right now.

834
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 8: How many guys can take the and keep.

835
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 12: I give it up to Bobby Green I mean, dude,

836
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 12: one guy came out of that fight tougher's.

837
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 5: I might need to get a Bobby King Green tattooed

838
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 5: like I came him out.

839
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 7: No.

840
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 12: I think he came across great during the quarantine and

841
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 12: the pandemic. He had a bunch of fights and you know,

842
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 12: I got to book to him maybe once or twice,

843
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 12: but just a good dude and made that that was

844
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 12: a that's not an easy fight going up against that guy.

845
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 12: And I thought he did a great job of walking

846
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 12: him down in that third round. He had a he

847
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 12: had a chance of getting them out of there.

848
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh he was. That's how one side that I

849
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: thought the round.

850
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: Was, oh Man, always something, always something.

851
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 9: Well, it's very interesting what's going on at Bandon weight

852
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 9: with Aljae Man Sterling and Piotr Janna and maybe it's

853
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 9: Rob Font that ends up being the guy that gets

854
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 9: Josealdo and with that three or five and Domina Cruz

855
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 9: is coming back, you know, might get Cheeto Vera, Orshan

856
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 9: O'Malley potentially, I mean vandam Wade is on fire, and

857
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 9: of course they're all chasing Longo's guy.

858
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 5: So it's pretty exciting, all right, before we let you.

859
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 9: Go, and then if you have anything to promote on

860
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 9: the way out with all of your myriad appearances, you

861
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 9: can certainly do that. But Vicente Luke and Michael Kiessa,

862
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 9: you know, great sort of micro CAUs them about the

863
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 9: thrill and the agony in this sport, and for Michael

864
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 9: Kiessa this is a huge setback.

865
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: But what else can be said about Vicente Luke?

866
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: Right?

867
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 9: Ken flow Like, he's won ten of eleven, he's finished

868
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 9: nineteen of his twenty one pro wins. He's got a

869
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 9: lot of chokes in his Arsenal's a Brazilian jiu jitsu

870
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 9: brown belt, but he's really a striker. Kenny, I guess

871
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 9: I'll start with you on Luke and Kissa, But what

872
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 9: do you make of Vicente's submission defense turned into submission offense?

873
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 7: There?

874
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 6: You know, I knew that it was definitely possible for

875
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 6: Kisa to win that fight, his ability to take down

876
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 6: and control is really impressive. But I think for me,

877
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 6: when I looked at that fight, the reason why I

878
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Speaker 6: picked Luke is not only do I see him having

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Speaker 6: a big advantage on the feet, but I said, you know,

880
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Speaker 6: this guy's got some submissions in his back pocket where

881
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Speaker 6: you get him on his back. It's not like you're

882
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Speaker 6: safe there either. And you know the way that he

883
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 6: was able to come back his toughness. You know, Luka

884
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Speaker 6: is going to fight tooth and nail. He's the kind

885
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 6: of guy he'll let an arm break, you know, just

886
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 6: so he can get out and then beat you, beat

887
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Speaker 6: you with it. You know, he is so tough, and

888
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Speaker 6: he was in some difficult spots against Kisa, was able

889
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Speaker 6: to escape, get on top and capitalize when he needed to.

890
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Speaker 6: He's putting it all together at the right time, and

891
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Speaker 6: doing it against a guy like Kissa is extremely impressive.

892
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Speaker 6: And I will say this as a guy who you know,

893
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Speaker 6: why I was fighting, was doing analysis work and commentary

894
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Speaker 6: work and stuff that isn't easy.

895
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Speaker 8: You know. I think that.

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Speaker 6: Playing both of those roles and you know, maybe putting

897
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 6: more pressure on yourself and making it a bigger deal

898
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 6: than it is can get to you.

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Speaker 8: And I know Kisa kind of alluded to that.

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Speaker 6: And I do know though that Kisa will come back

901
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 6: stronger and better like he has before. And it was

902
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Speaker 6: a tough loss, but more than anything else, he ran

903
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Speaker 6: into a Luka that is firing on all cylinders.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's gonna be a tough guy to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Now, look, two good guys, they're gonna you know, they're

907
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Speaker 12: both gonna do great in the future. Luk definitely deserves

908
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Speaker 12: a shot. You know, he looked phenomenal and and Mike

909
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 12: is just a nice guy that you know, maybe you're

910
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Speaker 12: right with the commentating. You know, it's it's hard to

911
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 12: juggle everything at the same time. But you know, he

912
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Speaker 12: did get the fight where we wanted to, did come

913
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Speaker 12: out with a different strategy. So whatever he was thinking

914
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Speaker 12: in his head worked. It was a beautiful takedown and

915
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 12: he had his opportunity to win that fight and didn't

916
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Speaker 12: go his way. And the other guy jumped on that,

917
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Speaker 12: you know, right out of the scramble of that, and

918
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Speaker 12: hats off to him.

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 3: Again, great great job, really just a great job with

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Speaker 3: a lot of things.

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Speaker 9: You got a lot of welter away contenders that on

923
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Speaker 9: paper have put together a body of work that is

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Speaker 9: worthy of a title shot right now.

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Speaker 5: I mean even Gilbert Burns.

926
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Speaker 9: I know he fought for the belt recently, right, but

927
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Speaker 9: the way he came back, you know, if you needed

928
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Speaker 9: a welterweight contender for like an interim fight, like Gilbert

929
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Speaker 9: Burns has the resume. But I'm really talking about Leon

930
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Speaker 9: Edwards and Vicente Luke, and certainly I think Colby Covington

931
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Speaker 9: deserves being in that mix, even though he only had

932
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Speaker 9: one win after the championship fight. All right, always good

933
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Speaker 9: to have Ray Longko on my Monday, I mean, and

934
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Speaker 9: thank you for texting me over the weekend. You know,

935
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Speaker 9: nothing makes me happier when I see the name Longo

936
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Speaker 9: or Florian and my cell phone and I'm on a

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Speaker 9: headset for eight and a half hours.

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Speaker 12: I was just blown away by that. I really was like,

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Speaker 12: I don't know, I just was blown away. I was like,

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Speaker 12: I gotta I almost threw the phone against the wall.

941
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Speaker 12: I decided to text you and save my phone. But

942
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Speaker 12: a real quick So I have Justin Nikid Montalvo fighting

943
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Speaker 12: in Bellatow this week Friday night. All right, make it

944
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Speaker 12: his Bellatow debut. Okay, we have two amateurs. Steve Lee

945
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Speaker 12: and Anthony de lem Me fighting on the hometown circuit

946
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Speaker 12: in Long Island on the amateur circuit. I mean, I

947
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Speaker 12: hope I have everybody in, but they're both fighting on

948
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Speaker 12: the same night, so it's a big night for the gym.

949
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Speaker 5: How about that Steve right back in there.

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Speaker 11: Huh.

951
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Speaker 12: I don't know if you guys all there wrestling, do

952
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Speaker 12: you guys see that they do a like a I

953
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Speaker 12: guess it's a It's a summer wrestling tournament at Hofstra

954
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 12: and those guys all decided to jump in yesterday, Anthony

955
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Speaker 12: de Lemmy Morob and al Jamaine Sterley and who who

956
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Speaker 12: do you think.

957
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: One crowd favorite?

958
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Speaker 5: Any one?

959
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Speaker 11: Right?

960
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Speaker 3: He want?

961
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 9: He decided to go easy money Walla.

962
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Speaker 8: You gotta love that guy.

963
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Speaker 6: It's just crazy, you know, probably try to enter another

964
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Speaker 6: weight class just to just to do a second one

965
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Speaker 6: for fun.

966
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Speaker 12: Well you know he he he sucks some weight so

967
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 12: he wouldn't have to wrest aloud Joe, you know, but

968
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Speaker 12: took second against a real tough kid that of I

969
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Speaker 12: forget where maybe Nassau, but uh as a little American.

970
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 12: But the fact that those guys just do that and

971
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 12: they have fun. Uh, and they raised a lot of

972
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Speaker 12: money was a good benefit. Jamie Franco, who will helped?

973
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 12: I know, Jamie, Yeah, just raise some money. And somebody

974
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 12: sent me a video with Morob just like some poor

975
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 12: kid try and take him down.

976
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Speaker 3: He was kind of bored and laughing and the kids unbelievable.

977
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Speaker 9: So Extra Rounds give you the opportunity to talk about

978
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Speaker 9: all this stuff at the end of your usitution to

979
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Speaker 9: Tyrie Kavano.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, shout out to Extra Rounds.

981
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Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, thanks for you.

982
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Speaker 3: Parl Gonzalez going at it. But she's a pisser and

983
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Speaker 3: a half.

984
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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a piston.

985
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 9: Hey your homework for next week? Can you wear a

986
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Speaker 9: T shirt that represents this brand?

987
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guarantee you exactly promise, my man. You know

988
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock is early.

989
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: John, all right, we'll do eleven thirty next week.

990
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: All right.

991
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 9: We just like you know, the listeners want you as

992
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 9: close to the top of the show as possible, so again,

993
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 9: we're just trying to pacify.

994
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Speaker 5: Was a very needy audience.

995
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Speaker 3: He was admitted that he cut me off real quick

996
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: when I started. It's over. Yeah, I didn't even get

997
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Speaker 3: the words out of my mouth yet. I got and

998
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: he was it was out. All right, Hey, listen, let

999
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 3: me the name of that the judge.

1000
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Speaker 9: Thankybody long ago with us every week here on the

1001
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 9: anek end Florian podcast. But part of my reason for

1002
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 9: booking Mark Goddard on the judging front is to say,

1003
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 9: you know, because people, you know, I just I don't

1004
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 9: like when you know, a moy Thai guy will denigrate

1005
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 9: like a mixed martial arts fan on Instagram and say

1006
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 9: that the mixed martial arts fan can't have an opinion

1007
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 9: about the score of a round because he didn't train

1008
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 9: in moy Thai, you know, So like I got people

1009
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 9: trying to denigrate my credentials. I've been calling mixed martial

1010
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 9: arts fights since two thousand and nine, and my best

1011
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 9: friends in the world are all the very best fighters

1012
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 9: to ever do it. And those have been the people

1013
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 9: who have been in my years for twelve to thirteen years.

1014
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 9: So I always qualify my comments on this show by

1015
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 9: the fact that my opinion is that of an amateur

1016
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 9: and not a professional. But you know, to suggest that

1017
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 9: my opinion or an MMA fan that has watched every

1018
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 9: fight since two thousand and one fan.

1019
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 8: One or two fights that have been scored over the

1020
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 8: years yeahah.

1021
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 9: Right, all right, before we move on, and by the way,

1022
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 9: congratulations to the Fall River, Massachusetts native Tisha Torres, who

1023
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 9: looked out standing against Angela Hill.

1024
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 5: A lot of big winners over the weekend.

1025
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 9: Congrats to Miles Johns for the performance of the night

1026
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 9: bonus huge knockout of Anderson Dos Santos.

1027
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: I was surprised to see on Sports Center's top.

1028
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 9: Ten, Miles John's got the number five, and the top

1029
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 9: play was Manel Copp for the head kick knockout of

1030
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 9: odae Osbourne, by the way, hit his shoulder and his jaw,

1031
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 9: and I didn't go too deep into it on the

1032
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 9: broadcast because we needed to move on. But I thought

1033
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 9: Oday deserved a little bit more time. And I also

1034
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 9: didn't think the knee landed flush on the job, but

1035
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Speaker 9: I stayed in my let Cody agrees early stoppers.

1036
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 5: There you go, all right, before we move on.

1037
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 9: Mix Martial arts legend Nick Daz will make his return

1038
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Speaker 9: at UFC two sixty six September twenty fifth. He takes

1039
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 9: on a former opponent, former UFC Weltaway champion Robbi Lawler.

1040
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 9: So Diez laler One took place at UFC two forty

1041
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 9: seven that was April second of four.

1042
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 5: That night, Nick d has won by knockout.

1043
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 9: The rematch seventeen plus years in the making, goes down

1044
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 9: September twenty five.

1045
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 6: That's right, UFC forty seven, Round two knockout there for

1046
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 6: Nick Diaz. Just amazing that they're going to run it back.

1047
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 6: This is the fight that I think every UFC fan

1048
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 6: wanted to see. It's a rematch that I've been waiting

1049
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 6: for for a while. These are two guys that have

1050
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: done some amazing things in this sport since then. You know,

1051
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 6: back then, it was kind of like we were going

1052
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 6: to see who was going to be the emerging star

1053
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 6: out of those two. A lot of people thought it

1054
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Speaker 6: was going to be Robbie Lawler just based on his

1055
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 6: bill and based on what he was doing in the

1056
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Speaker 6: UFC at the time.

1057
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Speaker 8: He was just murdering dudes at like nineteen years old.

1058
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Speaker 6: Was just the same Nick Diaz was in his early

1059
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Speaker 6: twenties at the time, and we saw that toughness from

1060
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 6: Nick Diaz. He again, in classic Nick Diaz fashion ate

1061
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 6: some big shots, was able to come back, landed a

1062
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 6: beautiful shot that put Robbie Lawler out. You know, Nick

1063
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 6: Diaz became this star because of it, and you know,

1064
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 6: I can't wait to see what I can't wait to

1065
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 6: see how that rematch materializes. Both those guys are absolute studs.

1066
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Speaker 6: This is a fight that just makes a whole lot

1067
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Speaker 6: of sense.

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Speaker 5: All right, so first fight.

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Speaker 9: We mentioned in two thousand and four a couple nuggets

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Speaker 9: that I thought you might find interesting and hopefully the

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Speaker 9: audience would as well, because there are more of them

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Speaker 9: than you. So Diaz at the time of that first

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00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 9: fight made three grand a show and three grand to win.

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Speaker 5: It was his eleventh pro fight.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 9: And now he's returning, of course, for the first time

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Speaker 9: since January thirty first of twenty fifteen, a night on

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Speaker 9: which he was pretty competitive against Anderson Silva Lawler was

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Speaker 9: eight and one when he fought Nick d Az the

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Speaker 9: first time. He made eight grand a show, so despite losing,

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Speaker 9: he still made more money on a night when the

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Speaker 9: total fight perse was three hundred and thirty three thousand dollars,

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Speaker 9: So says a reason both guys are going to make

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Speaker 9: more than that individually. For the rematch, Robbi Lawler spot

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Speaker 9: seven times since we last saw Nick d As compete.

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Speaker 9: Last fight for Lawler against Neil Magne decision lost last

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Speaker 9: August twenty nine. Robbi's lost four in a row at

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Speaker 9: two of those twenty five minute distance fights. Odds for

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Speaker 9: the first fight between Robby Lawler and Nickty has any idea?

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Speaker 5: How could you possibly have an I don't imagine that.

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Speaker 8: Robbie was probably a big favorite.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know what was it.

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Speaker 9: It was in two thousand and four. I couldn't find

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Speaker 9: a betting live. They don't go back that far as

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Speaker 9: a fucking trick question. Yeah, best fight odds dot Com

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Speaker 9: suggests the odds for the rematch opened at Robbie Lawler

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Speaker 9: minus two fifty and Nick d As plus two ten.

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Speaker 9: Right now on DraftKings sports Book, Lawler is minus one

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Speaker 9: twenty and Nick d As is plus one hundred the

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Speaker 9: even money underdog.

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Speaker 5: Does that surprise you at all?

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Speaker 8: What do you think.

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Speaker 5: The opening number surprises me?

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Speaker 9: That either one of these men would be a minus

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Speaker 9: two to fifty favorite, uh right against the other.

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Speaker 5: But I think Lawler, given the active.

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Speaker 9: Or more active schedule, I should say probably would would

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Speaker 9: deserve the distinction as the favorite.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: Think that's that's probably right. It's hard, man.

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Speaker 6: You know, anytime we don't see a fighter for a

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Speaker 6: long time, we don't exactly know well what they're gonna

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Speaker 6: I know that Dick has been teasing this comeback for

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Speaker 6: a long time. Obviously it's a fight for him that

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Speaker 9: a woman for whom I have a lot of respect,

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Speaker 9: not just as an athlete. Chief PFL lightweight contenter Kayla

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Speaker 9: Harrison Cayl. I know it's a busy time. Appreciate a

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Speaker 9: few minutes today.

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Speaker 5: How are you doing.

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Speaker 11: I'm good, good, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 9: All right, So ten days from now, you will compete

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Speaker 9: about thirty three minutes from my front door, even closer

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Speaker 9: for you.

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Speaker 5: So a week and a half out for a layman

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Speaker 5: like me.

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Speaker 9: What will your training consist of today as you sort

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Speaker 9: of get closer to fight week?

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Speaker 11: Well, today, I'm gonna still train twice today and then

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Speaker 11: kind of start slowing it down. It's been a grind.

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Speaker 11: I don't know if you're familiar with the PFO format,

1201
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 11: but it's a season format, so I thought this year

1202
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 11: gon gonna fight four times. You pretty much go from

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Speaker 11: one camp to the next to the next, so it's

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Speaker 11: been a little bit of a grind. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 11: to fight week because that means it's kind of rest week.

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Speaker 6: Right right, go ahead, Cale, Obviously, you know you've done

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Speaker 6: this before, world champion already, and I'm curious as to

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Speaker 6: how this season is different from your your previous championship run.

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Speaker 11: I think that well, I think the competition has stepped

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Speaker 11: up a lot. I think that Lariss has gotten better,

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00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 11: Jena's gotten better, I've gotten better. I think also, you know,

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Speaker 11: I had already re signed with the PFL before this

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00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 11: amazing before the finals of last year. So this year's

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Speaker 11: there's I think a little more I don't want to

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Speaker 11: say pressure because it's not the right word, but there

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Speaker 11: are more eyes. I guess, you know, what's she gonna do,

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00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 11: Where's she gonna go, what's gonna happen? Is she gonna

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Speaker 11: you know, dominate? Kind of just a lot of questions.

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00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 11: So my eyes are on the prize. Though I'm focused.

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00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 11: I know that if I go out there and steal

1221
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Speaker 11: my will and do my job that hopefully, you know,

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00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 11: everything will work out.

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Speaker 6: The Olympics just wrapped. Did you watch the women's judo

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Speaker 6: and and and what did you think of the competition there?

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Speaker 11: I watched my friend Angie compete, but I didn't. I didn't.

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Speaker 11: That's late to stay up late for you know, I'm

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Speaker 11: a mom now, so it's like I barely make it

1228
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Speaker 11: to fights, so right. I saw the Japanese girl won

1229
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Speaker 11: my division, which I wasn't surprised. The Japanese kind of

1230
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 11: killed it this year at the Olympics to nobody's surprise.

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Speaker 11: But I definitely I had some nostalgia, but I don't

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Speaker 11: miss it, if that makes.

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Speaker 8: Sense, gotcha? Okay, yeah, that's what I was alluding to. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: all right, cool.

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Speaker 9: No, it's so interesting when you talk about a lot

1236
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Speaker 9: more eyeballs on your fights, right, because for me, I'm

1237
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Speaker 9: working probably twenty five UFC shows a year contractually, I

1238
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Speaker 9: got to watch like forty one of these things.

1239
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Speaker 5: I got three kids under ten.

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Speaker 9: But your fights have become appointment viewing for a lot

1241
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 9: of us who don't have time to watch every PFL show,

1242
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Speaker 9: So it sounds like you kind of feel that the

1243
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Speaker 9: entirety of the MMA world is watching when you're compete.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I mean that's what I want, you know,

1245
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Speaker 11: That's what I've worked so hard for my entire career.

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Speaker 11: I don't I'm not here to obviously.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 11: It feels good to have eyes on you, and you

1249
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 11: want to be big and famous and rich and all this,

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Speaker 11: But I'm not doing it for any of those reasons.

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Speaker 11: I'm doing it because I want to be the best

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Speaker 11: in the world, and I want to be so good

1253
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Speaker 11: that you can't ignore me. And I feel like I'm

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Speaker 11: on that track.

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Speaker 9: PFL lightweight champion Kayla Harrison willis here on the Antacid

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Speaker 9: Flooring podcasts. So if my research is accurate, you were

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Speaker 9: to face is it Jenna Fabian in twenty nineteen?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I pronounce her name right.

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Speaker 9: See I don't have a pronunciation guy for the PFL Cancelow,

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Speaker 9: so don't get all over me, but both lefties. Obviously,

1261
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Speaker 9: she is a familiar name. What are your thoughts on

1262
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Speaker 9: the challenge that lies ahead here?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, like you said, I was slated to fight her

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Speaker 11: in the twenty nineteen Semis. She cooled out of the fight,

1265
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Speaker 11: So it's a matchup I've been preparing for for a while.

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Speaker 11: I feel like she's gotten better her striking. Striking's gotten sharper,

1267
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Speaker 11: but I'm not sure how our wrestling is. I feel

1268
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Speaker 11: like it's kind of your quintessential classic grap matchup. You know,

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Speaker 11: it's grappler versus a striker. She's a tall lefty, I'm

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Speaker 11: a short lefty. I'm a grappler, She's a striker. It's

1271
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Speaker 11: going to be about who can whoever can impose their will,

1272
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Speaker 11: and I think we all know that everyone knows what

1273
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Speaker 11: I'm going to do, but they can't stop it.

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Speaker 5: Your competitive pedigree is unbelievable.

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Speaker 9: We're coming off of fight in which Psido Goan just

1276
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Speaker 9: beat Derek Lewis for the US Season Interim Heavyweight Championship,

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Speaker 9: and we talk a lot about his physical but his

1278
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 9: mental just seems next level, so calm, cool and collected,

1279
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Speaker 9: and I think you get a lot of credit for

1280
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Speaker 9: that as well.

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Speaker 5: How does one walk out.

1282
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 9: Feel compared to the next in terms of knowing that

1283
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 9: you're the one with the eyeballs and the pressure all

1284
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 9: on you time out every time?

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Speaker 11: I should say I think it gets easier. You know,

1286
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Speaker 11: I'm I'm the type of athlete who I competed my

1287
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Speaker 11: whole life, you know, was Judo doesn't have a season,

1288
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 11: you know, you have a South American tour, an Asian tour,

1289
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Speaker 11: European tour. You're going from one tournament to the next,

1290
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Speaker 11: the next spending months living out of a suitcase, competing

1291
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Speaker 11: back to back. So the more cage time I get,

1292
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Speaker 11: the more comfortable I get, the more it feels like

1293
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Speaker 11: this is my purpose, this is my job. And that

1294
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Speaker 11: was where I was in judo. You know, I got

1295
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Speaker 11: to the point where a final of a major event

1296
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Speaker 11: felt normal, It felt like home. It felt like my job,

1297
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Speaker 11: my job to make it to the final and to

1298
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Speaker 11: win that final. So for me, everyone gets a little

1299
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 11: bit easier because I feel like this is my job.

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Speaker 11: Now I'm starting to become comfortable, and I think that

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Speaker 11: makes me even more dangerous.

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Speaker 9: So, as many of our listeners and viewers probably know

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Speaker 9: by now, you are the guardian of your niece and nephew,

1304
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Speaker 9: and you sort of tease motherhood there. Earlier you came

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Speaker 9: to the aid of your mom after the passing of

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Speaker 9: your stepfather Bob, and man when I was reading about

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Speaker 9: all of this over the last couple of weeks. I mean,

1308
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 9: every family would benefit from having a Kayla Harrison. I

1309
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 9: don't think we have a Kayla Harrison, by the way,

1310
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 9: but my twin brother was telling me about some of

1311
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 9: the challenges, like in quarantine with these kids.

1312
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 5: I don't know how you have dealt with this in a.

1313
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 9: COVID nineteen climate, But how has the whole process been

1314
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 9: sort of balancing that new challenge with your professional fighting career.

1315
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 11: Well, it's definitely been the biggest challenge of my life.

1316
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 11: You know, as a parent, it's the hardest job in

1317
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 11: the world, also the most rewarding job in the world.

1318
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 11: I'm actually in the process of adopting them, so I

1319
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 11: just signed the paperwork for that. Very exciting, but really

1320
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 11: I think that everything happens for a reason. And I

1321
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 11: didn't know how empty my life was. I didn't know

1322
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 11: how much I needed them just as much as they

1323
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 11: needed me, And they've sort of filled my cup, if

1324
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 11: that makes sense. You know, it's the best time of

1325
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 11: my life. I've never been happier, I've never been more

1326
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 11: at peace, I've never been more exhausted. But it's all

1327
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 11: they kind of it's all worked itself out, and you know,

1328
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 11: I love them. You know, my greatest joys in life

1329
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 11: are not the two Olympic gold medals and the belts

1330
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 11: that I've got. You know, I don't even know where

1331
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 11: it is. The metals are in my soft drawer or

1332
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 11: something that those aren't my auvements in life. It's you know,

1333
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 11: watching my daughter dive into the pool when she was

1334
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 11: terrified her and watched Emory you know today he pointed

1335
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 11: to the number one, and I'm like, holy, he's a genius.

1336
00:59:59,040 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 3: Right right?

1337
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, hey, thankfully, I know my son's not a genius.

1338
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 9: We eliminated genius pretty early on in the profits.

1339
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 5: No, he's not.

1340
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 11: He's not a genius. He's definitely a killer though. He's

1341
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 11: gonna be in Maco's wrestling program pretty much.

1342
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 5: Ah man, thank you.

1343
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 8: It's funny you say, oh, go ahead.

1344
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 9: No, I was just gonna say, you say Steve Maco,

1345
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 9: and I'm like ten miles from him right now. It

1346
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 9: gives me anxiety just hearing you say his name.

1347
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 11: Are the best days of the week, Yeah, he's the best.

1348
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 11: But Emory is like he's two and he's in the

1349
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 11: eighty eight percentile for heightened weight and Kyla is eight, right,

1350
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 11: He's ninth percentile for heightened weight. So we've I've got

1351
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 11: like a fifty pound eight year old and a thirty

1352
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 11: eight pound two year old, and he is like rough

1353
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 11: and tumble. We've got matts at the house. He wants to,

1354
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 11: you know, he wants to throw his sister around, and

1355
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 11: I'm like, oh man, I've got a channel. This It's

1356
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 11: gonna be a he he. They came to my fight

1357
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 11: for one of my fights. They came with me because

1358
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 11: the quarantine was so long and we had Matt's and

1359
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 11: I was working with Mike and Maco and Anderson, and

1360
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 11: you know, he starts seeing ground and pound and stuff

1361
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 11: and like seeing you doing all this stuff. So he's

1362
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 11: like doing ground and pound on his stuff, trying to

1363
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 11: like double legis sister.

1364
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 9: I was like, oh boy, I just got to know

1365
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 9: how he did and how you did in quarantine with

1366
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 9: a kid that young.

1367
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 5: I couldn't I couldn't even imagine.

1368
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 11: I mean, it was uh. I was really overwhelmed and

1369
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 11: really scared. I was scared shitless, to be honest with you. Yeah,

1370
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 11: this month was the scariest month of my life, just

1371
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 11: because he was one, and it was like, I have

1372
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 11: never had a kid. I don't know much about you know.

1373
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 11: I was the fun aunt who picked him up and

1374
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 11: popped him up on sugar and.

1375
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 5: Then said all right, yeah, get the fuck out of here,

1376
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 5: right yeah.

1377
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 11: Now, it's like, you gotta eat your vegetables, you gotta

1378
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 11: eat this, you gotta do that, you gotta make your bed,

1379
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 11: you gotta you're like And especially with the two year

1380
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 11: old or one year old at the time, he couldn't communicate,

1381
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 11: so it was it was a little scary, but you've

1382
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 11: got it down now. I'm wishing he was still a

1383
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 11: one year old because now he's very vocal about what

1384
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 11: he wants.

1385
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 5: When he was how yeah, I'm sure.

1386
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1387
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 9: So you know, I have a million questions about Kyla,

1388
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 9: but I want to be respectful of your time. I'm

1389
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 9: just curious how she's sort of doing with all the

1390
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 9: all of the trauma, sort of getting out the other side.

1391
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 9: And I guess the extent to which she likes what

1392
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 9: you do for a career, or does it scare her

1393
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 9: now that she's getting a little bit older.

1394
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 11: No, she's a little badass.

1395
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 8: She's pretty, she is good.

1396
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 11: She's definitely I call her my flower child, like she

1397
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 11: has a lot of creativity and she's a day dreamer

1398
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 11: and like I was. I think that's one of the

1399
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 11: hardest jobs as a parent is realizing your kids are

1400
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 11: not you, right, Like they have their own personalities, their

1401
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 11: own habits, their own little ticks, and their own things.

1402
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 11: And I was always like boom boom, Like I came home,

1403
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 11: I did my homework, I went to Judo, I did this.

1404
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 11: I did like I was, and no one had to

1405
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 11: tell me. I just did it. But I can't draw.

1406
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 11: I can't I'm not creative. I don't have a super

1407
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 11: superb imagination like she does. So we're all, you know,

1408
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 11: learning to help her thrive where she's passionate and what

1409
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 11: she's good at and what makes her special has been

1410
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 11: a great joy in my life. But she's so great,

1411
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 11: you know, she's She's kids are so resilient, man, and

1412
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 11: they are so they're stronger than they know, you know.

1413
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 11: And that's something I tell her every night, like you're

1414
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 11: stronger than you know. You know, you're braver than you think,

1415
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 11: you're fearless, your bold, And she has like I have

1416
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 11: positive affirmations on my mirror and my bathroom. So she

1417
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 11: writes down hers like I'm strong, I'm like all these things,

1418
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 11: and she's she's my little warrior. They both are, I mean,

1419
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 11: they both are, and I just feel super blessed.

1420
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 3: You know.

1421
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 11: I think I have a real opportunity here to kind

1422
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 11: of break the cycle and to be a game changer

1423
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 11: in their lives. And our family has a huge history

1424
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 11: of Toronto. But I'm still kicking. They're still kicking, and

1425
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 11: hopefully I give them a place to feel safe, to

1426
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 11: feel loved, to feel secure, and to thrive.

1427
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 5: It's amazing. Yeah, I know your story is a budding

1428
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 5: major motion picture.

1429
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 9: And I always joke with Kenfel like I was supposed

1430
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 9: to break the cycle and have my kids like craving

1431
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 9: kale and not going to McDonald's. They do not like McDonald's, right,

1432
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 9: They feel like that shit tastes fake. So maybe I've

1433
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 9: done something right, but they're certainly not craving kids.

1434
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 11: I do the same thing with Kyla. She's like, she's

1435
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 11: a very picky eater. When she first moved down here,

1436
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 11: she wouldn't eat meat, wouldn't eat protein, wouldn't any kind

1437
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 11: of like nothing, And now she eats steak eggs from

1438
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 11: thirty two pounds to fifty pounds. But I told her,

1439
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 11: I was like, McDonald's has chemicals.

1440
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 9: So right, right, yeah, if you don't have McDonald's, if yeah,

1441
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 9: if you don't go to McDonald's for a long enough

1442
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 9: amount of time, you can actually taste the chemicals when

1443
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 9: you go back. So all right, wrap fire questions, quick

1444
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 9: hits here, Caylee. You can give me one word answers

1445
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 9: on the way out, which gold medal? Because I haven't

1446
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 9: done my research at least in terms of those matches

1447
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 9: was more challenging to win for you?

1448
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 5: Twenty twelve or twenty sixty?

1449
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 3: All right?

1450
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 9: Your ten and oh is an MMA pro over under

1451
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 9: twenty total pro fights before your career.

1452
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 5: Is all said and done over?

1453
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 9: Oh God, is that music to the ears of mixed

1454
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 9: martial arts fans around the world?

1455
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 8: All right?

1456
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 9: On a scale of one to ten, with ten being

1457
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 9: your mixed martial arts fighting prime. Where are you right

1458
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 9: now in relation to how good you can be at

1459
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 9: your peak? Or wow, I'm writing that down?

1460
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 3: All right?

1461
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 9: Is there any food in particular that you routinely deprive

1462
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 9: yourself of that you enjoy either during training camp or otherwise.

1463
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 11: I'm not a sadist, No, good.

1464
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 3: I love it.

1465
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 8: Do you lease five pounds?

1466
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 5: Do you lease or own your car?

1467
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 9: See, because like I won't let myself buy nutty Buddies

1468
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 9: at the grocery store because I'll just fucking.

1469
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 5: Eat all of them.

1470
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 9: All right, who's gonna win the UFC heavyweight title unification?

1471
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 9: About Francis and Ghanu or Seedle ghan Gone? Do you

1472
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 9: have a favorite sports team or a favorite fighter to watch?

1473
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 11: I mean, I'm a Boston girl, so all the Boston

1474
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 11: teams go socks?

1475
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 9: Well yeah, well, you know we love that as two

1476
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 9: guys who lived the first thirty years of our lives

1477
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 9: in the great state of Massachusetts, and we were both

1478
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 9: born there.

1479
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 5: So good stuff A right, Well, we know you're not no,

1480
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 5: please go ahead.

1481
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 8: Sorry.

1482
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 11: That was my favorite fighter growing up, was Frank Jegert.

1483
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I kind of want to get that FI

1484
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 5: tattoo just to honor that man. Total legend.

1485
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 9: But see for us Massachusetts folks, a little too much

1486
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 9: Jersey Frank, I love that, But you're.

1487
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 11: Like a grown man getting a tattoo of another.

1488
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 5: I have a history though.

1489
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 10: No.

1490
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 9: Well no, but see they're multipurpose, right, because Efie, it

1491
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 9: would actually be the the iron symbol right and I

1492
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 9: can lean into you.

1493
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 5: Know, the multipurpose.

1494
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 9: All right, Kayla Harrison, PFL Lightweight Champion. We know you're

1495
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 9: not focused on your contract a couple of flights left,

1496
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 9: but selfishly I do hope to see you one day

1497
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 9: in the UFC and to get the chance to qualifight

1498
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 9: of yours. But you can be sure we will all

1499
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 9: be watching August nineteenth, and we appreciate your time today

1500
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,439
Speaker 9: and hope to talk to you sometime on the other side.

1501
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 5: Thank you, Kayla, absolutely thanks for having me.

1502
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 3: Guys.

1503
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:24,959
Speaker 8: Thanks kyleb.

1504
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 3: All right.

1505
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 9: You can find her on social media see the handles

1506
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 9: there at bottom of the page. Kayla Harrison, I've admired

1507
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 9: her from Afar Kenny for so long and that was

1508
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 9: even before you know, she got into the motherhood game

1509
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 9: because of some of the circumstances that she was dealing with,

1510
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 9: and she's just a total inspiration, like for a parent

1511
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 9: like me. And then to learn this morning that she

1512
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 9: was in quarantine with like a one or two year old,

1513
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 9: I mean, bro, the.

1514
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 8: Whole thing is an amazing story.

1515
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 6: And you know, again, I think that her whole attitude,

1516
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 6: her championship attitude, the way that she sees life the

1517
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 6: way that she sees competition just spreads out into everything

1518
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 6: she does, and she is going to be very difficult

1519
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 6: to be inside the cage, and what she's doing outside

1520
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 6: of it is extremely impressive.

1521
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 8: And how she has stepped up for her family, it's

1522
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Speaker 8: amazing and I can't wait to see her compete.

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Speaker 6: She's actually going to compete on the twenty seventh, So

1524
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 6: we have the next three semi finals coming up. She's

1525
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 6: on the twenty seventh of August against Jenni Fabian and

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01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:33,839
Speaker 6: unfortunately will be missing that one. Wow, definitely we'll be watchings.

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Speaker 8: She's savage, man.

1528
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 9: Man, you know I do all this fucking research. You

1529
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 9: know she's not even fighting ten days from now, you know,

1530
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 9: I mean, I believe it's my sources are not good.

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01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 9: All right, Well, either way, I may try to get

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01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 9: in the building, depending on my schedule, but very much

1533
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 9: enjoyed chalking talking to Kayla Harrison today. She's not fucking

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01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 9: competing on August nineteenth, So she might be, she might be.

1535
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 9: I mean, there's nothing Cody Merrow can do to make

1536
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,959
Speaker 9: me look good when it comes to that editing, Cody.

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01:08:59,040 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 3: Can you look at that?

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01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 8: Can we research that all right?

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, And at florianpodcast dot com for all

1540
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 9: of your merchandise needs. You can also access both the

1541
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 9: audio and video versions of the program there. Kenny Florin's

1542
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 9: YouTube channel is flowing as well if you want to

1543
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 9: get a deeper dive into the jiu jitsu stuff. By

1544
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 9: the way, did you uh, I don't know if you

1545
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 9: muted the broadcast while you were watching this weekend, but

1546
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 9: did you notice my comment about Michael Kisa getting back

1547
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 9: in the gee a couple of fights ago.

1548
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 5: Did you hear me say that much?

1549
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 4: Oh?

1550
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 8: I didn't hear that.

1551
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 9: So for the majority of his UFC career, he listed

1552
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 9: himself on his UFC bio as a Luis Claudio white

1553
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 9: belt in Brazilian jiu jitsu, right, and you know, obviously

1554
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 9: his credentials extend well beyond that, but he hasn't changed

1555
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 9: in the gee for years. So after he got submitted

1556
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 9: by Anthony Showtime Pettis, who is a legitimate Brazilian jiu

1557
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 9: jitsu black belt, he didn't feel very good about that,

1558
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 9: so he got back in the gee and now he

1559
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 9: has elevated to the level of purple belt. But now

1560
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 9: Gi jiu Jitsu fundamentally has become a big part of

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01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 9: his last two training camps. And of course now this

1562
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 9: comes on the heels of a result that did not

1563
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 9: go his way. I'm not sure that you know that

1564
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 9: GEE or no G training had anything to do with

1565
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 9: what happened against Thecente Luk, But I just thought it

1566
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 9: was interesting. In an era where seemingly to me, eight

1567
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 9: of nine fighters I talked to are getting out of

1568
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 9: the G, one of the real good choke artists in

1569
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 9: the game is getting back in it.

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Speaker 6: So that's pretty cool, man, I love it. He's an

1571
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 6: excellent grappler.

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01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 10: Man.

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01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 8: He made a mistake, uh, you know, against Luk, But.

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01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 6: Again, I don't think that's necessarily attributed to his training

1575
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 6: the GEE or not. But I would say this that,

1576
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 6: you know myself, I don't think it's a necessity to

1577
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 6: train in the G. I think there are definite benefits

1578
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 6: to that. I think for him, you know, it's a

1579
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 6: little bit more challenging. There's a lot more to worry about,

1580
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 6: a lot of other things you need to do with

1581
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 6: the G and uh yeah, and oh, Cody just chimed in, Uh,

1582
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 6: John Annick, you're the man, dude, You're you are correct.

1583
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 8: It is on the nineteenth of August. You're you're right, man,

1584
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 8: you know I'm sitting here. Did you see Kayla Harrison

1585
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 8: like mouth the words? She's like, you're good. Did you

1586
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 8: see that? Did you see that?

1587
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 5: Mouthway?

1588
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 8: No, yeah, you were doing obviously you always do your research.

1589
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 6: And you mentioned you know, her stepdad, Bob who passed

1590
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 6: away and all that.

1591
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 9: She was like, well, hey, you miss I appreciate that.

1592
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 9: But we we don't have a lot of guests on

1593
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 9: this program. And part of the reason why is because

1594
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 9: I spend a lot of my professional life outside of

1595
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 9: this podcast interviewing pro fighters. So I want to sit

1596
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 9: here and talk shit and swear and be a dick

1597
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 9: with my man Ken Flow.

1598
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 5: So we don't always do that.

1599
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 9: But if you do want to hear from more high

1600
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 9: profile fighters, hammer away at Anachlorian pod on Instagram, on Twitter,

1601
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 9: uh and and we can make that happen for you selectively,

1602
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 9: but it will be August nineteenth. You know, here I

1603
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 9: am promoting you know, the Pioneers fighting Legion out of

1604
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 9: my ears and Ken Flow's got his states messed up,

1605
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 9: so that would mean that you're calling Kayla Harrison's fight

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 9: on aug I am.

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01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 8: I am very excited about Yes, all right, it's good.

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01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 6: I thought I thought it was because typically what they

1609
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 6: always would go last.

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01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 8: But I'm glad I'm going to be able to all right.

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01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 9: Pokemon Fight League eight. Credit to Cody Marrow for that one.

1612
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 9: I can't steal credit for that. I wanted to ask,

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01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,560
Speaker 9: did you train in the gee? Did you train in

1614
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 9: the gee your entire UFC career?

1615
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 5: No, yeah, you didn't either.

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01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 8: I didn't train. I took the gee off man. Every

1617
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 8: once in a while I would put on. I would

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01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 8: put it on for something fun for a day or two,

1619
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 8: but I didn't.

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01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 6: And I tell a lot of fighters asked me, Hey,

1621
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 6: do I do you think I should be training in

1622
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 6: the gee if I want to be an MMA fighter

1623
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 6: or if.

1624
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 8: I'm you know, training for Emily fights? And now we

1625
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 8: say absolutely not. You don't have to.

1626
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 6: I think in some cases it could hurt you because

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01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 6: you become reliant on grips and things that aren't going

1628
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 6: to be there during the fight. Yeah so, but but

1629
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 6: there are other advantages, there are other things that help

1630
01:12:58,920 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 6: you as well.

1631
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 5: But you all right, good stuff today.

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01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 9: I hope we did not offend too many people thanks

1633
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 9: to Ray long Ago and Kayla Harrison. Thanks to Cody

1634
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 9: merrow Or executive producer and jack of all trades for

1635
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 9: Kenny Flory and I'm John Aik. We thank you all

1636
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 9: for watching and listening. We are right back in your life.

1637
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 9: Next Monday we'll preview UFC Fight Night cannonya versus Gasolom.

1638
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 9: Until then, don't text and drive better yet, just put

1639
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 9: your phone down when you're driving. And Patty Militic, if

1640
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 9: you're out there listening and you watch the news lately, man,

1641
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 9: how I'm in Florida, it we might have to put

1642
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 9: our masks back on, So don't be afraid to watch

1643
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 9: the news. Fake news travels six times faster than real news.

1644
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 5: Yield lady.

1645
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 14: At the Tell and please record your message.

1646
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 4: This question is for John Annik from the Bane. I'm curious, John,

1647
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 4: how much are you benching these days? Is it upwards

1648
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 4: of four hundred? My guess is around fives. Have a

1649
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 4: good one, Ken, be blessed, baby.

1650
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 14: At the Tell and please record your message.

1651
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 15: John Annick, you are the best in color commentary. There's

1652
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 15: no doubt about it. Kenny Florian pfl is lucky.

1653
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 14: To have you.

1654
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 15: I don't know how you're getting more attractive with age,

1655
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 15: but I'm the judging. Why don't we go back to

1656
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 15: the In John's own words, we always hear it's begin

1657
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 15: at every pay per view, it's about striking, grappling, aggression

1658
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 15: and octagon control. And then John makes the point to

1659
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 15: say in that order, I'm not saying we're we missed anything,

1660
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 15: but why don't we go back and talk about the

1661
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 15: striking comes before the grappling. So if you have the better,

1662
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 15: say it's a half round, there's a better striker and

1663
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 15: in the second half a better grappler. I feel like

1664
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 15: the striker is supposed to win that and that's kind

1665
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 15: of why I gave that fight to Corey Sandhagen.

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01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 14: Okay, at the tell and please record your message.

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01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 15: Hey guys, I'd love to hear your take on if

1668
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 15: each of you can make one change.

1669
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 3: To the sport. What would it be.

1670
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 15: Some things that come to mind are open.

1671
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 4: Scoring, changing the number of judges, the training for the judges,

1672
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 4: how the judges.

1673
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 3: Watched the fight, like on a monitor versus live, or

1674
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 3: something else.

1675
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 4: I'd love to hear what you think.

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01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 15: Love the show, guys, see you.

1677
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 14: At the ton. Please record your message.

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 7: Hey, Annik Florian. I just got to say, man, you

1679
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 7: guys fucking rock you bring joy to my heart. Man,

1680
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 7: this podcast you've got going on it is absolutely fan fuckantastic.

1681
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 7: Now listen, man, I've been a fight fan since I

1682
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 7: had to rent VHS tapes to watch Hoyce Gracie in

1683
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 7: the beginning. You know, but you know, I don't think

1684
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 7: I've missed a card.

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01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 3: Damn it.

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01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 14: At the tone, please record your message, annikk.

1687
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 7: I just got to say, man, I fucking absolutely love

1688
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 7: the podcast you got going on with the legend can flow.

1689
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 7: You guys bring joy to my heart.

1690
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 6: Man.

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01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 7: I don't think I've missed the fight card in five years.

1692
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 7: And next to the fight, you guys are my favorite

1693
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 7: part of the week.

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01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 10: So keep it up, guys.

1695
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 7: I fucking love you guys. Man, thank you very much.

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Speaker 14: God bless at the tell and please record your message.

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01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: As a military service number, I agree, it's much harder

1699
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 7: to carry a child out and about in Disney.

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Speaker 15: World, and it is the carry art here.

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Speaker 8: Do not let anybody tell you the wise.

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Speaker 5: Play on players.

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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 16: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

1705
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Speaker 16: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 8: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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