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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Final Hour,

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: But also Tutor Dixon. Buck did a fabulous.

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Speaker 2: in South Bend, and now Carol Markowitz. You have heard

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Speaker 2: both those women as regular guests on this program. They

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Speaker 2: on a variety of different stories as well. The second

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Speaker 2: vote likely to begin in the near future for the

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Speaker 2: House speakership. As we have mentioned, it was gone going

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Speaker 2: and Jim Jordan lost twenty Republican votes. He could only

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Speaker 2: lose basically five Republican votes, so he has to figure

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Speaker 2: out a way to get fifteen more of votes. It

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Speaker 2: took a long time for Kevin McCarthy to get there

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Speaker 2: when he became speaker back in January. I guess right, Buck,

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Speaker 2: everything kind of runs together, but we will see. Will

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Speaker 2: keep you updated if a second vote begins, and both

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Speaker 2: Buck and myself continue to believe that the most likely

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House is Jim Jordan. We've been saying

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Speaker 2: that for a couple of weeks now, since Jim Jordan

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Speaker 2: and Steve Scalise both began their candidacies. Steve Scalize dropped out,

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Speaker 2: Jim Jordan still ongoing. We will see whether he can

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Speaker 2: get the votes that he needs. We haven't really talked

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Speaker 2: about this much, Buck, but by the way, there are

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Speaker 2: now reports that maybe Hamas had a misfired rocket that

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Speaker 2: war associated with all of this, so I think it's

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Speaker 2: just important to expect it's gonna be very difficult to

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Speaker 2: know because one information lags two. There are major, major

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Speaker 2: incentive structures on both sides when it comes to claiming

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Speaker 2: What we do know, Buck, is there now I think

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Speaker 2: almost two hundred hostages that have been acknowledged to be held.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine what hell their lives have been they

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Speaker 2: have now been in the custody of Hamas.

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Speaker 1: For what I mean, we're coming up on almost.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks, right, I mean two weeks since the initial

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Speaker 2: is becoming increasingly difficult to justify. I don't even hear

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Speaker 2: more of a demand for a ceasefire on both sides

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Speaker 2: innocent hostages, some of whom I believe are American. But

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is now going to the Middle East, and

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Speaker 2: the reports are that he's going to be there on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Buck Biden has not been a total disaster on Israel

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Speaker 2: He has said that Hamas is the evildoer here and

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Speaker 1: Egypt won't take them, Jordan won't take them.

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Speaker 2: Some left wing politicians in the United States are saying

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Speaker 3: I think there's very little that Joe Biden is going

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Speaker 3: It should be noted that Joe Biden is famously wrong

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Speaker 1: I think that's one of.

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Speaker 3: The better ways to describe what Hamas is. It is

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Speaker 3: they have seeded whatever moral ground you know, Hamas thought

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Speaker 3: Hamas is the bad guy in this process. Right now

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Speaker 3: Hamas is the as the antagonist and the the wrong doer.

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Speaker 3: And so I think the Israeli response here is going

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Speaker 3: Which is the biggest terrorist attack since nine to eleven.

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Speaker 2: So my thought here going forward, Buck is we haven't

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Speaker 2: seen the IDF the Israeli defense forces really go into

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yet they have.

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Speaker 2: And partly I'm wondering how much do you buy into

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Speaker 2: they're more movie traps, all those things I would think

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Speaker 2: Given how awful and depraved the actions were by Hamas,

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Speaker 2: I understand people got mad at Trump because he's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: But I think you have to think. If you're in

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Speaker 2: You can't just think about how you respond. It's a

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Speaker 2: game of chess, right, They're trying to provoke something, You're

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Speaker 2: trying to provoke something. What is Hamas trying to get,

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Speaker 2: you know, murdering thirteen hundred Jewish people and taking two

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Speaker 2: hundred hostages is an incredible provocation, but it doesn't threaten

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Speaker 2: the existence of the Israeli state. What do they want?

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Speaker 2: What is their ideal response from Israel and what does.

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Speaker 1: It lead to?

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Speaker 3: You often see with nihilistic jihadis terrorism that the the

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Speaker 3: short term reality is crowded out by the long term fantasy, right,

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Speaker 1: This is rage.

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Speaker 3: This is Hamas is a is a state, if you will,

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Speaker 2: Don't think they're trying to provoke a response, why now

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Speaker 1: But but there's they're trying to provoke a response from.

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Speaker 3: Israel, as they always do, and they would like to

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Speaker 3: major escalation out of Lebanon into northern Israel, Uh, there

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of balancing of different interest that's

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Speaker 3: Definitely days, maybe weeks, and the fighting. The last time

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Speaker 3: They'll probably lose more this time around. I think Hamas

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Speaker 3: stop that. Yeah, knock that crap off. We're going to

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Speaker 3: there's no future that anyone can see where Hamas Hamas

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Speaker 1: This is this is not something.

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Speaker 2: They have rejected to be fair for everybody out there

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Speaker 2: they have rejected for decades their own Palestinians.

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Speaker 3: Course, yeah, because the only state that is acceptable is

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Speaker 3: their whole mentality. And that's the reason the entity, you know, exists,

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Speaker 3: that is its reason for being. What I think is

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Speaker 3: in Gaza, what comes after Hamama?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who fills the void? You know what what comes next?

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Speaker 2: This has always been the challenge in Middle Eastern despot rule, right,

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Speaker 3: Was basically a civil war, so between Sunni and Shia.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking a lot about the battle for the

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Speaker 4: If Amas exists, to hear from now, they have won.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the key difference, Clay.

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Speaker 3: You know, twenty five to twenty five to thirty thousand

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Speaker 1: But you know, in an.

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Speaker 1: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're about to head off to DC. We'll be

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Speaker 2: We might have a second speaker vote. Jim Jordan got

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Speaker 2: Earlier in the show, though, Buck, I mentioned that I

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Speaker 1: So here is the that this all happened. This is undisputed.

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Speaker 1: I did it.

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm Klay Travis. I hit the you know,

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Speaker 3: forgiveness from you later. So I'm gonna say foul. You

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Speaker 3: What about what about the rest of the crew?

439
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Speaker 1: Was this?

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Speaker 2: Was this a diva move by me? So to be fair,

441
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Speaker 2: I'll go I'll do the pull right now, what are

442
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Speaker 2: we going?

443
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Speaker 3: We're going split? Oh my, they're split. We have one

444
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Speaker 3: thumb up, one thumb down, and one to the side.

445
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Speaker 3: So I can't even get the tea the team. He

446
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Speaker 3: doesn't want to make the call.

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Speaker 2: Ye, it's dead even So to be fair, like anything

448
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: that goes wrong in the house or goes right, I

449
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: control nothing right, So if we have like a plumbing issue,

450
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Speaker 2: or if we need something fixed, my wife would handle

451
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: all of that because I'm in complic and.

452
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Speaker 1: I'm one of the producers.

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Speaker 3: Producer Mark, who's outside of the room, just came in

454
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Speaker 3: to do the tie breaking.

455
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Speaker 1: Foul. He's saying foul.

456
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Speaker 3: He's saying, I should put my own thought. Yeah, you're

457
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: you're under the bus play tell us what the view

458
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Speaker 3: is like.

459
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Speaker 2: Like I just again, I'm teaching the fifteen year old

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Speaker 2: how to drive. In my defense, I like that you

461
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Speaker 2: look you left the note.

462
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Speaker 3: I didn't have to leave an To be clear, this

463
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: is a minor, minor party foul that you know that.

464
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Speaker 1: But would you have left a note? What percentage of

465
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Speaker 1: people do you think would leave a note that? I

466
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Speaker 1: have no idea.

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Speaker 2: It's a minor it's a minor ding. It's not like

468
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: I just wiped out the whole right side of the car.

469
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: Like if you didn't know, you could think that it

470
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: could have happened somewhere else. But I again, I lightly

471
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Speaker 2: grazed it.

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Speaker 3: Just imagine just imagine that, like there's some you know,

473
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Speaker 3: some cars even have their own camera systems now or whatever.

474
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Speaker 3: Imagine that you, mister mister Clay Travis football SCC, I

475
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Speaker 3: love America.

476
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Speaker 2: Guy, can clearly afford can clearly afford.

477
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Speaker 3: To help to help somebody out with their dinged vehicle.

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Speaker 3: You do a ding.

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Speaker 1: In, a dig and run, or a ding and ding

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Speaker 1: and drive. I don't even know a dentist drive. If

481
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: you know you you were. That's not a good look.

482
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: That's not a good look. Here, we can't have that.

483
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: It's even possible that the person who was hit is

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Speaker 2: a listener.

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Speaker 1: That wouldn't be staggering.

486
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: Again, based on where we're located in North Florida, Monster

487
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: audience for this show for OutKick like, it's like the SEC.

488
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: It's like the the home base.

489
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: Of the beach of the SEC, right like, so basically,

490
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: if you're a college football fan, this is where you go.

491
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Speaker 1: And so, but I.

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Speaker 2: Loved that my wife thought that I might have blamed

493
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: her for the accident and also given her cell phone number. Right,

494
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: we haven't heard, We haven't heard anything. No contact has

495
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: been made based on my errant driving. But I was

496
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: bragging about how good of a parallel parker I was.

497
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to come clean about the first time that

498
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Speaker 2: I've ever hit a car parking and again, I think

499
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: my wife enjoyed this. The last time I got into

500
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: any kind of accident buck it had snowed and there

501
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: was ice, and I said, oh, it's fine, I'm going

502
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: to go to the gym. I had my eight year

503
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: old with me. We hit a piece of ice, spot

504
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: of ice, I don't even know what you call it,

505
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: slid directly into a tree, did some damage to the

506
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: front of the car. I turned around, I drove right

507
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: back and you should have seen the gleeful face that

508
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: my way we.

509
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: Were all follow It's just like this show is turned

510
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: into Clay's Car Confessions all of a sudden, you know, well,

511
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: but you'll love this. How many speeding tickets have you

512
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: gotten since we're going there?

513
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: I have gotten speeding tickets. I think in nine states?

514
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: What you've gotten nine speeding tickets? Oh, at least now,

515
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten one in a while. I know one

516
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: speeding ticket in my life and I was in college. Oh,

517
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: I've gotten a ton. And let me also say this.

518
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 2: When we were having our first kid, they wouldn't give

519
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: me life insurance because I had gotten too many speeding tickets.

520
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: Like I have gotten that thing in the mail where

521
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: they're like, we're gonna spend your license.

522
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: If you don't.

523
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: Because I don't do the I won't go to like

524
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: the the I've been to the trainings before, but I'm

525
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: not gonna spend a whole day to get the thing

526
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: knocked off of my uh knocked off of my insurance, right.

527
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: I just I would rather. You've ever been caught going

528
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: over the limit? Have you ever gone to No?

529
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm I'm trying to do the math. I mean,

530
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: in in college, twenty over, oh more more than twenty over.

531
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Speaker 2: Clay a mad man. I know I drive, I drive

532
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: really really ally just said speeding tickets don't surprise me

533
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: after getting a ride from Clay in Nashville, Speedy Gun Travis.

534
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: I I do drive. I tend to drive. I don't.

535
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm impatient, But if there's nobody in front of me,

536
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: why I'm not gonna just suddenly drive off the road.

537
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: So far, I've never driven off the road, like I

538
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: I like to go fast. But but I was gonna

539
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: say when I hit the tree in the in the ice,

540
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: that was the ice issue, not a speed issue. My

541
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: eight year old I think he was like sick, or

542
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: my middle son, I think he was eighth. Then we

543
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: got out, we looked at it, and his you know,

544
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: his immediate thing was I was like, oh, mom's gonna

545
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: kill us, and he was like, don't tell her.

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00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: I was like what.

547
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean? I was like,

548
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: this guy's ride or die. I was like, what do

549
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: you mean? He was like, there's a dent in the

550
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: front of the car. He's like, just don't tell her. Dad,

551
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: just see if she's like there's.

552
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: A piece there's a piece of metal that has fallen

553
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: off the vehicle that.

554
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: We ultimate gaslighting is you ding up the car and

555
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: then the person who finds the ding You're like, I mean,

556
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: let's come clean here.

557
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: We all know what happened. You know, we all know

558
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: you did it. Just don't tell her.

559
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: By the way, Mason Mike Mason on the show, sixteen tickets.

560
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: Wait, one of our guys has gotten sixteen tickets. That's

561
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: what Ali just texted us. Sixteen sixteen speeding tickets. I mean,

562
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Speaker 1: I thought I had a lot. I can. I don't know.

563
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: I'll tell I'll tell the story briefly now, because we

564
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: been hitting this a lot. I was with my dad

565
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: once when he got two speeding tickets in the same day,

566
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: which was.

567
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: Which was amazing. That well, he was not in a

568
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: good mood into the second ticket. I can tell you

569
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: it is defense.

570
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: I've been there before. I've thought, what are the odds

571
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: that you would get to in.

572
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: One you think it's like you're jumping into the hole

573
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: left by the artillery round. It's not gonna hit there again.

574
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: Oh no, the speed trap will get you again.

575
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: The last and by the way, I think I have

576
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: funded most of the schools in South Alabama trying to

577
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: drive to the beach. You have never seen speed traps

578
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: like South Alabama.

579
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: Speed traps exist, I mean.

580
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: Buck, the speed element will go like fifty five to

581
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: twenty five in the space of like two hundred yards.

582
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: It's almost impossible not to be speeding on some of

583
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: these places.

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Speaker 3: And so uh hey, making me feel like I drive

585
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: like a little old lady. I got one speeding ticket

586
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: in my life. I've had one fender bender.

587
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: That's it.

588
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: Well, now it makes sense why you're complaining about people

589
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: in Miami driving too fast, because you're, like you might

590
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: basically miss.

591
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: Daisy pretty much. People in Miami, though, legitimately all think

592
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: they're in Fast and Furious twelve or something. I mean,

593
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: you've never It's a car culture, and everyone's got their

594
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: cars as sort of you know, sooped up as you

595
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: can possibly get it possibly can can be. And for

596
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: someone to blow past you, especially like right outside of

597
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: Miami on ninety five, someone to blow past you at

598
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty miles an hour is like no,

599
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it just happens regularly all the time, like

600
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: no one cares. I also never see anyone pulled over.

601
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 3: And another line in New York you get I mean,

602
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: you get outside of New York City and you start

603
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: trying to like, you know, let it rip a little

604
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: bit in your Maserati or your beamer or whatever you're getting,

605
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: you're getting nailed.

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00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

607
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: My wife sits next to me in the car constantly

608
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: saying you're going too fast, You're going too fast. That's

609
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: what she does when she's not being the worst parker

610
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: that's ever existed in the history of mankind. By the way,

611
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: does this help or hurt me on future speeding tickets?

612
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: All of this confession for all of the police officers

613
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: out there that are listening.

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00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: Well, they would know, like any state trooper in the

615
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: country would know that Clay and Buck are very pro

616
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: law enforcement that going for us.

617
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: And they like to drive fast too. And again I

618
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: don't think I'm put anybody danger. But I did nick

619
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: that car, just a small nick on Thursday, So I

620
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: wanted to be clear. As I am in the process

621
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Speaker 2: of teaching my fifteen year old how to drive, I

622
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to be an aggressive driver, by

623
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: the way, or even drive very fast. I think he's

624
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: going to be much more like you, Buck, He's going

625
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: to kind of drive like a little girl. There's always

626
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Speaker 2: one family member taking pictures of all the events that

627
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Speaker 3: We are closing up shop here today on Clay and Buck.

647
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Speaker 3: We'll be coming to you live from tomorrow Ken our

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Speaker 3: nation's capital, Washington, d c UH in part because we're

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Speaker 3: so pleased to.

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Speaker 1: Be on our new DC affiliate.

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Speaker 3: I hope a lot of people are listening across the

652
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Speaker 3: Greater Beltway area, the Washington DC metro area home formerly

653
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: to me and to Clay. We have both been full

654
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: time DC residents in the past. I've lived I've lived

655
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: there two different times. Clay lived there for four years

656
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: of college. So we'll be down there and talking to

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Speaker 3: you about well. We're going to be seeing some folks

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Speaker 3: having some closed door meetings, you know, discussing how to

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Speaker 3: save the country, stuff like that, and we're looking forward

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Speaker 3: to chatting and follow you. Please make sure you subscribe

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Speaker 3: is down to the iHeartRadio app. It's free and you

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Speaker 3: could subscribe there. Now, Clay, you had mentioned this earlier,

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Speaker 3: and usually we wouldn't end the show on such a

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Speaker 3: serious and severe story. But the New York Times now

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Speaker 3: is reporting as its main headline Israeli strike kills hundreds

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Speaker 3: in hospital. Palestinians say so, this is relying on Palestinian

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Speaker 3: meaning Hamas media sources at this point. There is a

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Speaker 3: photographic proof though, of the strike that is being shared

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Speaker 3: by the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: It is known that.

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Speaker 3: A long standing practice among Hamas to put whether it's

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Speaker 3: high level headquarters or weapons depots, in these kinds of

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Speaker 3: sites hospitals, schools, religious buildings, so that the strike is

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Speaker 3: then referred to as a war crime and that there

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Speaker 3: will be civilian casualties. There's a lot more, Clay that

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Speaker 3: we're going to have to look at here to see

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Speaker 3: exactly what happened and what the real casualty number numbers are.

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Speaker 3: But right now the story is breaking and the images

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Speaker 3: are horrific.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, and there is going to be a big

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Speaker 2: dispute going forward about who's responsible for this because a

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Speaker 2: lot of news organizations are saying Israel is responsible, and

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Speaker 2: they're citing Hamas Israel saying that they were not bombing

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Speaker 2: in that area, and they are saying it was a

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Speaker 2: misfired Hamas rocket. So just be careful when you analyze

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Speaker 2: this information. Maybe by tomorrow there'll be more certainty. But

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Speaker 2: I think what this is going to end into end

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Speaker 2: up being is a battle of propagandas right which side

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Speaker 2: is and we may never know officially will never admit

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Speaker 2: if what you said, and I think that is the

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Speaker 2: more likely explanation, certainly, but Hamas will never admit that

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Speaker 2: one of their misfires maybe caught an arms depot that

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Speaker 2: they set up in a hospital or beneath the hospital.

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Speaker 3: So this is where it's all heading, folks, These kinds

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Speaker 3: of fierce back and forts and a war that is

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Speaker 3: just beginning. We will bring you the latest on this.

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Speaker 3: It's important that we all get to the truth and

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Speaker 3: we'll do that here on Clay and Buck. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to you tomorrow