1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ, Buck 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: with you Buck? What is going on? Man? We started? 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: We got high school football rolling right now? What are 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: we doing? 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, DJ, today is uh uh first day of 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: haz or contact whatever. Like as my dad would say, 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: this is where we separate the goat from the sheep. 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: So it's a. 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Little We gave him a little tasty cake. 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: Nothing crazy like we did like a little modified board drill, 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: put a handful of returners in, just let him wrestle 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: a little bit. Nothing another crazy, but it's you know, 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: it's crazy. Like it's very similar to like training camp 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: in the NFL, Like you do all this prep to 16 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: get the training camp and then it's a blur and 17 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: you and I are working together this weekend whatever Colts 18 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: Ravens Thursday night, I think we're in studio. 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: Yeah we yeah, we got Thursday and Friday. 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: Third and and and DJ. It's it's on like it is, 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it is, it is on. It's crazy. 22 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to get going shoot scrimmages, 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: high school scrimmages to be here before you know at 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: the college football season will be rolling. Man, I cannot wait. 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: I do want to start out though, on today's show, 26 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: let's kick this thing off with a little Hot or Not. 27 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: It's time for Hot or Not, brought to you by 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Wassabi hot Cloud Storage. So narratives get spun during this 29 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: time of year. I saw our buddy and coworker Kyle 30 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Brandt went on a little rant, as Kyle does better 31 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: than anyone, about some of the criticism and the critique 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: of Caleb Williams, and he went back and found old 33 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: tweets from Lamar Jackson training camps where he was getting 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: investrated and then just went on to win the MVP 35 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: that year. You know other examples along the way of guys. 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: I think Rock Purty was another one that he mentioned. 37 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: But it got me thinking and it kind of was 38 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: like the light bulb went off because as this time 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: of year, we're visiting camps, we're talking to people in 40 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: the evening, you're texting your buddies, and it's funny, Buck, 41 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: every single team I've talked to, I don't know how 42 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: you are, and being in the camps, you've been at 43 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: every single one. The defense is ahead of the offense 44 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: to the point where I felt like I needed to 45 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: tweet it out. Hey, just a psa out there. Every 46 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: defense is ahead of every offense, just across the league. 47 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: So you live in a little bubble, your little fan 48 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: bubble of your particular team, and you think the sky 49 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: is falling. Trust me, it's not. Every team is in 50 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: the same situation, the same boat, so to speak. 51 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the defense is reactionary. They're aggressive by nature, 52 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: and for the offense, they're more moving parts that have 53 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: to work. Went offensive play. The work you think about 54 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: the offensive line has to be in sync, the timing 55 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: and the running game between the offensive line the running backs. 56 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: Seeing the holes in the passing game is pass protection, routes, 57 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: quarterbacks and receivers being on the same page while being protected, 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: a lot of things going to it where defense, if 59 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: done right, is a lot of sea ball. Getball, like 60 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: go to the ball, go fast, get it going. And 61 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: then it turns as we get closer to the regular season, 62 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: and really in the regular season, it turns as those 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: reps the time on task offensively, particularly with the offensive line, 64 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: when they get together and they jail, that's when you 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: see the offense go to the next level. 66 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: One of the other basic things is in most practices too, 67 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: you're the periods the way they're set up. Very there's 68 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: very few snaps where there's a legit run pass option 69 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: for the offense, Like you're in seven on seven. Well, 70 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: guess what, we're not running the ball in seven on seven. 71 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: We're throwing it. So the linebackers can get unbelievable depth 72 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: that gives them opportunities to play in in a way 73 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: that they're not going to be able to play when 74 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: they's threat of front. Hey, guess what we're in a 75 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: third and seven period. Well, frick, we're not running the 76 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: ball in a third and seven period, So everybody knows 77 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: we're throwing it. I mean, there's very I mean, you're 78 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna get some of those third and threes, third and fours, 79 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: they'll move the ball periods, but those are in the 80 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: in the scheme of the overall reps. When you take 81 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: it in practice in its entirety, Buck, there's very few 82 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: times when that's. 83 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll say they haven't been on defense side 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: of the ball. Sometimes we'll play to play, we kind 85 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: of play yeah, we've seen it. Oh, I've heard it. Audible. No, 86 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: over course of the spring, and I may know that 87 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: something is coming to I go jump around and make 88 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: a play. That is training camp and a lot of 89 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: times you know, and we've seen it because people practice 90 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: differently than they perform in games, and games you don't 91 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: have the rails on, you're not protected. It's live, and 92 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: so you really can't make judgments until you see the 93 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: guys play for real. So don't go crazy about practice. 94 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: It matters, but keep it in perspective. 95 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was talking to a coach of the day 96 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: and we're talking about a veteran receiver and he was like, well, 97 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: he's either completely lost it has nothing left, or he's 98 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: really saving himself for the regular season. Some of those 99 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: to be determined, right, But that's there are some bets 100 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: that do that. Man, they're going to pay themselves seventeen 101 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: game season. It's a long year. You're not getting the 102 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: all gas, no breaks mentality here in training camp for 103 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: some of these vets. To put it mildly, it's a marathon, 104 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: not a sprint. 105 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: We got time, we get to it. And it reminds 106 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: me when I first got into the league my rookie season. 107 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 2: I remember in Buffalo over hand Andrew Reid and Thurman Thompson. 108 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: Those guys talk about there are four speeds pre season, 109 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: regular season, postseason, super Bowl, and you ease into it 110 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: and each change of season faster, more intense, more urgency. 111 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: So it'll change. And right now people are operating at 112 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: championship level. When we kick it off in September, it 113 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: goes up a notch and it continued to escalate it 114 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: as we get closer to the meaningful games. 115 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: I think that's a great perspective. That was this week's 116 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: Hot or Not segment, brought to you by with Sabby 117 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: Hot cloud storage, store more and do more with your data, 118 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: try them for free at wassaby dot com. Again. I 119 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: think that's just hey, just to quote the quote Aaron Rodgers, relax, 120 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: just settle in a long way to go here. I 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: do want to get to the AFC North though, real quick, 122 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: before we get to a post that you'd written, I 123 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: want to jump into that as well. But when you 124 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: look at it, I think it's the most interesting division 125 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: in terms of the quarterback play, of what the expectations 126 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: are and what it's going to look like. And I 127 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: thought we could maybe just run through those guys right 128 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: now because you start off talking about Kayleb Williams. Everybody's 129 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: freaking out, like do you like the tough love approach 130 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's given him right now. I mean he's making 131 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: it hard on him and he has not. He has 132 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: not been soft on him and his critique publicly either, 133 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: just saying, hey, we're not going to win many games 134 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: we play like this. 135 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: Look, I've heard from people like that's how Ben Johnson 136 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: gets down. Somebody else on the staff is to love 137 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: him uptight, but he's back hut and with quarterbacks he's 138 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: he's hard on them. He has a high standard. He 139 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: doesn't relent off that standard. And Kaylea Williams that have 140 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: to get better now. Kaylyn Williams said that he wants 141 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 2: to be co starrd so obviously from a personality he 142 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: can handle it. And I'll say this practice can be 143 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: viewed in two ways. Some people will script practice, so 144 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: you want the perfect practice. That's great. I had an 145 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: old coach god rest Is Soul Dick Jeron who would say, 146 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: no practice is an opportunity for you to find out 147 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: where your boundaries are. So you push yourself in practice. 148 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: You do different things, you try different techniques to see 149 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: what works what doesn't. So when you go in the game, 150 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: you know exactly what works for you. To me, it 151 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: may seem like the same thing that Andy Reid did 152 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: with Pat mahomes Man. Go foroard now and then we 153 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: always can bring it back to get you to play there. 154 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: But you got to know what you can do and 155 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: what you can't do, so we can settle into Okay, 156 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: what's our approach. 157 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: So here was kind of what I was thinking on 158 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: Caleb is if you're Ben Johnson, I think your baseline, 159 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 1: like you could say, okay, I have all these ideas 160 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: of what I want to do and maybe how we 161 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: can win from within the pocket with the passing game. 162 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Right when I was sitting here thinking, you have your 163 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: fallback baseline with Caleb, which is I can design screens, 164 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: I can have a couple of shot plays, which, guess what, 165 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, what you don't do on screens and shot plays, Buck, 166 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: you don't even have to think the whole whatever picture, 167 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: whatever picture you're getting, it's it's it's covered in the 168 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: play call, screens and shots. So if we have if 169 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: we have in a passing game, let's say we want 170 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: to run the ball efficiently, we want to throw the ball. 171 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: Let's say twenty twenty two times like and play great defense, 172 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: run the ball. If we just start like twenty two 173 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: twenty five times and you look at it, Okay, we 174 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call a mixture of five screens and that's 175 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: receiver screens, tight end screen. We're gonna mix in. We'll 176 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: get the bat going five to six of those, and 177 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call three to four shots or we're gonna 178 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna max protect that. We're going to get a 179 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, one or two man route and just let it, 180 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: let it rock when we get a certain look. Now 181 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: that now you've got to figure out a way to 182 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: how to up the rest of the ten plays. Now, 183 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: the other thing you can fall back on is the 184 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: scrambles and say, okay, Caleb, you gonna you're gonna kind 185 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: of run around and school yard your way on three 186 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: to five plays. So we really own you only need 187 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: you to play drop back traditional quarterback. We need you 188 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: to make seven throws. And so saying that in training camp, 189 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: we're not calling a lot of the screens. We're not 190 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: we're not calling the shot plays. We're trying to force 191 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: you as much as possible to stay within the pocket, 192 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna spend sixty percent seventy percent of 193 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: our work on trying to get you up to speed 194 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: for those seven throws. Like that's it's just a different 195 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: way of looking at it. Even though we only do 196 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: this seven times, we're gonna spend a lot of time 197 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: because I know you can do the screens, we know 198 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: we can do the shots, we know you have the scrambles. 199 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: Let's spend all our time on those other plays. 200 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, because at some point, you know, there's a date 201 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: when you know that I need to get my gap 202 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: ready for the regular season. Yea, And right now we're 203 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: still in the experimental phase DJ That normally happens about 204 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: two weeks out from that first p season game, where 205 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: everyone starts narrowing the focus a little bit, trying to 206 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: be like, okay, we got to start tailoring it. You 207 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: want to give them kind of the full menu early 208 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 2: in training camp to see how they handle it. You 209 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: also want to introduce some concepts and stuff now that 210 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: you may not use early, but when you reinstall it 211 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: week seven, you're able to say, hey, you remember we 212 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: worked on this in training camp, and because you did 213 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, coach, 214 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: I remember. It just allows you to be able to 215 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: install things progressively over the course of the season. When 216 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: you throw a lot of them early, scale it back, 217 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: and then build them back into it. 218 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think there's there's a rhyme or reason 219 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: to how you do this thing in terms of how 220 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: you're setting things up and hopefully setting him up for success. 221 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: Let's go to Minnesota. JJ McCarthy sounds like things have 222 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: been okay, but that's all. I read something the other day. 223 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: We're talking about how you know there's some concern about 224 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: his touch, like everything's a fastball. We don't see him 225 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: really layer in the ball. Well, I'm just telling you 226 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: everyboy's under a microscope, Buck, But you have your level 227 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: of concern there at all what he's working with. 228 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: No, because I love to play call it AOC has 229 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: done it with everybody. He'll find a way to get 230 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: them right. Young quarterback. Very similar to bow Knicks last year. 231 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: Bo Knicks last year wasn't great early, got greater down 232 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: the stretch. And part of the reason is because as 233 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: a play caller, you want to see what your guys 234 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: can handle, and then once you figure out what they 235 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: can handle. You want to figure out what things are 236 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: a little beyond their grass right now, but in time 237 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: they'll be able to do And so it's really the 238 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: pushing of how much you can do it now. Some 239 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: people will say, Hey, I want to rehearse perfectly, so 240 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: the things that we're rehearsing will execute them perfectly in 241 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: the game. The problem you have with that is do 242 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: you have enough counter tactics in the bag to deal 243 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: with stuff that could be unforeseen that comes up. So 244 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: I like this. I like JJ McCarthy being pushed a 245 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: little bit. I like seeing guys out their comfort zone 246 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: because there's enough time. But in Minnesota coaching staff to 247 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: build him up with a series of practices that feature 248 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: things that played to a skill set. 249 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could reiterate everything I just said 250 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 1: about Caleb there too, you know, like Kevin's going to 251 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: put him in a situation to be successful. And I 252 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: also think the other thing I would look at, I'd 253 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: be curious, maybe them more than any other team when 254 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: you look at this play color with this quarterback Buck, 255 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: does it not make more sense for them to play 256 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: fast just to keep the comms in the headset? 257 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: I get going yeah, I mean it makes. 258 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: Got Kevin in my ear, get to the line scrimmage. 259 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: I got Kevin in my ear. 260 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 2: Look, I don't know why more teams wouldn't take the 261 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: Shawn McVay Jerry GoF approach. Yeah, early as get to 262 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: the line. I'm gonna get you to the line with 263 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: twenty five seconds stuff. So now I got ten to 264 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: walk you through, to give you a set of reminders 265 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: before we go. Look, man, it has worked for several 266 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: guys to play like that, so I would look for 267 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: Koc to do that. 268 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: Let's get to the Green Bay Packers. I read something 269 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: the other day on Jordan Love and it was all 270 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: about it was interesting arcohole is kind of all about 271 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: just his pocket presence and how they've been impressed with 272 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: just how poison calm he's been, you know, past Rush 273 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: heating him up a little bit. He doesn't get rattled. 274 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: He's just very common poison. There is there something to 275 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: the fact that he's got enough experience now and I 276 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: don't think he's ever been He hadn't really shown that 277 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: he's been super rattled at all at this point time. 278 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: But I almost feel like the expectations now he was 279 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: fighting who's he, you know, you know, replacing Aaron and 280 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: what that pressure is like. It feels like now like 281 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: it's just he's established, he's got paid, They've they've added 282 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: some more pieces around him. It almost feels like, man, 283 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: he's just got his footing right now. And he's not 284 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback that we talk a whole heck of a 285 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: lot about because not a huge personality. But is he 286 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: like sneaky ready to really take another step? Here is 287 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at. 288 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: I think so last year that step was prevented because 289 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: he had an injury that allowed him to leak Willis 290 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: to get on the field, and so when he came back, 291 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: he never quite was able to kind of recapture what 292 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: he's shown his first year as a starter. This year 293 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: at the table that set for him, not only because 294 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: of his experience leading to more expertise, but let's look 295 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: at the weapons around him. They went and got Matthew Golden, 296 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: first round pick, first time to use this since Javon Walker. 297 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: That gives them a guy who will vie to be 298 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: the number one. They also get a saving on Williams, 299 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: a playmaker, catch and run specialist that can do a 300 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: bunch of different things and make it happen. You think 301 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: about the offensive line some tweaks to be able to 302 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: do it. You got a rushing champion in the backfield 303 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: and Josh Jacobs. It is just a well put together 304 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: offense that can run it. They can throw it. Their 305 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: balanced but explosive. I think his confidence comes from knowing 306 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: my team. Personnel wise, we have all the answers to 307 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: the floor now on the same page, So schematically we 308 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: have all the answers. My job is to be a 309 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: good decision maker. What tool do I need for each situation? 310 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: How do we go about each situation? Manage that. He's 311 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: at that point where he's managing the game, which to 312 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: me means he knows if I manage it for most 313 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: of the game, they're only a handful of plays where 314 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: I need to put on the superhero uniform and go 315 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: make it happen. 316 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: I feel like there's been some years where we look 317 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: up and all of a sudden, the team's nine and one, 318 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, like that was not making. We're 319 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: talking about the Chiefs, or we're talking about you know, 320 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: the Eagles, whatever, like the Bills, But all of a 321 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: sudden you look up and it's like whoa agreement packers 322 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: and not like they to me are that team that 323 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: I just feel like nobody's really talking about them, especially 324 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: within this division with all the noise and chatter. That 325 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: won't surprise me at all if they got out the gate. Man. 326 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: Now, if they get out the gate, if they're able 327 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: to play well defensively, I think they're gonna take another step. 328 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: Edrian Cooper. It's boysed to be a big fact that 329 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: Lucas van Ness has a bigger role this year. 330 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: They've got talent up there. Man, I don't feel like 331 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: that Front seven talent has really lived up to how 332 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: gifted they Yeah, maybe if that happens, you are going 333 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: to see them get hot and get on a run. 334 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, not yet they. I mean they still haven't got 335 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: everything from Wyatt Kid from Georgia that they drafted a 336 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: few years ago. I mean, here's the thing that I'll 337 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: say about the package. When I look at the depth 338 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: chart and you're like, oh, man, this young player is 339 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: just waiting to come. Oh man, where yeah, oh this 340 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: young player And then you look up over there, Oh 341 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: Isaiah Simmons is there? Now? Oh wow? Can they finally 342 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: unlocked what everyone has been waiting on. They have a 343 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: really good roster and they're kind of underrated DJ because 344 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: the attention Detroit has, Chicago is fun, they just kind 345 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: of fall by the wayside. You know, Minnesota is there, 346 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: but you look up. The Packers could get out to 347 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: a fast start and be one of those teams. 348 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Yep, I'm I'm excited to watch that group, all right, 349 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: last team. Now, this is the question that and I 350 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: know it's the preseason. Backups on both sides. Did that 351 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: game of the day We talked about it, but the 352 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: Chargers Lions game. The Lions, they were replacing their coordinators. 353 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: Buck it was sloppy. It was their backups, but I 354 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: mean you literally fumbled the opening kickoff and then it 355 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: was a parade of turnovers and penalties. Sloppy and inevitably 356 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a conversation. Were talking Tobuddi around the league, like, hey, 357 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: they lost a lot of coaches. Now, they lost a lot. 358 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: A lot of brains went out that building. When you 359 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: think about Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn, not only I think 360 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 1: we're kind of seeing it with both the Jets and 361 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: with the Bears in terms of the personality of those 362 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: guys too. Like as much as Dan Campbell was the 363 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: tough guy in the in the North Star for toughness like, 364 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: he had tough, detail oriented coordinators that ran the offense 365 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: and the defense respectively. That that that warrants a little 366 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: bit of a pause, a little bit of of of 367 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: talk if nothing else. 368 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: Look, the preseason doesn't count, but it does matter it 369 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: mater of feel. How do you feel about your team? 370 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: Dan Campbell and the coaching staff couldn't feel great about 371 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: the performance that they had against the Charges. That means 372 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: that this week we'll look at them again and see 373 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: do they bounce back and have a better performance DJ 374 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: What was really, I guess disappointed was the lack of 375 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: rhythm on the offense and just a lack of cohesion 376 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 2: on defense. They just didn't look like they were in sync. 377 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: And I know you've got a bunch of young players 378 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: and people on the fringes trying to figure it out, 379 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: but even then it still has to look a little different. 380 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: So this would be a big week for Detroit. They 381 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: probably love the fact that they got the extra game, 382 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: so you find out early where you need to work 383 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: on it. But now there's a lot of work to do. 384 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: There's some concern. Not a five alarm fire yet, but 385 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: maybe a little little smoke, little smoke coming from the 386 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: building that we got to make sure we figure out 387 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: where it's coming from. 388 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: Now, we've been keeping the topic on the quarterbacks there. 389 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I do think Jared Goff, I mean he 390 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: can cover up whatever issues you might have or some 391 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: adjustments with some new coaches and new spots and new roles. 392 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: I do think, Look, Jared Goff's played at such a 393 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: high level of the last few years. He's familiar, he 394 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: has familiar weapons, reliable. I think you kind of look 395 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: at their pieces. I do love the fact they've got 396 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: dependable you know when think about Amara and Laporta, like 397 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: just really good, dependable players, and then they have the 398 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: explosive element with Gibbs and with Williams, like they've got 399 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: a good mix of that plus a really good offensive line. 400 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: So I don't you know, Look, I'm saying that's some 401 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: of the conversation I think when you get Jared Goff 402 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: back out there, Jared Goff, I'm sure at this point 403 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: in his career, is going to have a large sayso 404 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: in terms of their install and what they're running on 405 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: a week to week basis. So I'm not saying that 406 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm freaking out about the Detroit Lions or Jared Goff, 407 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that it is a conversation that's 408 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: taking place. 409 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: It is a conversation that's taking place, and there's some 410 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: people that are ready to jump off. This week is 411 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: critical for young players that are playing. Last week for Detroit, 412 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: because they had the extra game, the panic didn't necessarily 413 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: reach a crescendo. If you're a young player, you don't 414 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: play well this week, it might be overpretty because we 415 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: get nervous, we start bringing veterans in and those things. 416 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: This is a big week for the Detroit You want 417 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: to see the bounce back, but more importantly, I want 418 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: to see if these young guys can take their game 419 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: up a notch. 420 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we'll keep an eye on the lines as 421 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: we go throughout the preseason. All right, let's say quick break, 422 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: we come back. Bucky has he's got some thoughts on 423 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: the AFC here ranking the top three challengers in the 424 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: NFC as well to the Eagles. So let's let's get 425 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: into that right after this. All right, Buck, let's start. 426 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: First of all, I love it no matter what you're 427 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: no matter what you're writing, you could have ten different topics. 428 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: But if Aaron Rodgers is mentioned in the piece, that's 429 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: going to be on the headline. I mean, we're not 430 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: We're not dummies here. We know how to drive track 431 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: people what they want. Yeah, tell me what you tell 432 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: me what you got for us here? Buck? 433 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So, dj you know I've been the biggest, one 434 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: of the biggest Aaron Rodgers critics like coming in like 435 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: didn't understand it, didn't think you still was gonna beble 436 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: to play at high level with the Jets, YadA, YadA, YadA. 437 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say, man, there's something about this connection 438 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh that has me intrigued and even optimistic. And 439 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: maybe the Stellers know a little more than we know 440 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 2: when it came to why they really wanted him. And 441 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: if you had a chance to look at TV last 442 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: week on McAfee, you saw Mike Tomlin go on talk 443 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: about Aaron Rodgers, talk about what he gives to the 444 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: locker room, confidence, everyone believes in him, that stuff. J 445 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: We've talked about the importance of a franchise quarterback. What 446 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: he does, he gives everyone hope. So that was interesting 447 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: then you hear Aaron Rodgers give a feusive praise to 448 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, the kind of praise that we've never heard 449 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: him really get to Matt Lafleur. He didn't give that 450 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: same praise to Robert Sala or anybody. And I was like, huh, 451 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: They're on the same page. And then I'm seeing DK 452 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: Metcalf talk and I'm beginning to look at how they 453 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: put this together. Then on the defensive of the ball, 454 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin is talking about Jalen Ramsey and what Jalen 455 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: Ramsey gives them the ability to do. One, to match 456 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: up with everybody. Two. You got that piece, And I'm 457 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: looking up and I'm like, the Stillers have a team 458 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 2: that we talk about that can beat everybody in their division. 459 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: In terms of how you building your team. They got 460 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: people to match up with the Bengals wide receivers. They 461 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: have linebackers and speed to go with Lamar Jackson and 462 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: the Ravens. While matching up with them, they already fancy 463 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: themselves as a bully on the block, so no one 464 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: is going to necessarily out hit them and move them around. 465 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: To me, there's a path where the Stillers to be 466 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: one of those last teams standing when we look at 467 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: it with all of these older players coming together kind 468 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: of as a dream team. 469 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was talking to some folks out 470 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: there in Pittsburgh and one of the things that they 471 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: mentioned was like they've added edge, like they've added some 472 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: like dogs and some guys with some edge. 473 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, like that. 474 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: And Jalen is a junkyard dog. I mean you've known 475 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: that going back to high school. So he brings some edge. 476 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: The one I didn't I didn't know John hu Smith 477 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: got down like that. But they said John H. Smith's 478 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: kind of got a little bulldog to him, like he's. 479 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: I did not know that. 480 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: I didn't add and that was news to me, man, 481 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: But they said he's brought some of that. And Aaron 482 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: obviously with chip on his shoulder edge like he is edge. 483 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: And then the stuff on him was like look the 484 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: fact that their camp is away. It's not at the facility. 485 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: They're in Latrobe. They said, Aaron Rodgers in a dorm 486 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: room with the guys like he he's loved it, just 487 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: just getting to know the guys, like kind of a 488 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: ballbuster ribbon guys, but like one he's fit in immediately. 489 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: And they have kind of that veteran culture. So but 490 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: I just feel like, and that's something that's hard to quantify. 491 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: And I know people always getting these debates. I know 492 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: there was one this last week analytics pro and cons 493 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. I think it's I love analytics, 494 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: and I think there's value in a one hundred percent 495 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: and every team uses it on the coaching side as 496 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: well as the personnel side. But one little crack in 497 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: that is that I don't know that you can get 498 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: into the edginess personality stuff. And I think like if 499 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: you just look at it like Justin Fields and Russell Wilson, 500 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: who both I mean, Russ obviously had tremendous success in 501 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and all that, and Justin Fields has 502 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: had some moments along the way, I don't think either 503 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: one of us would describe those guys as edgy kind 504 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: of dog type dudes. Minka Fitzpatrick's great player, you know, 505 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: po Bowler, I don't know that we'd necessarily describe him 506 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: as that, like just kind of I don't know the 507 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: right word for it. Just there's a griminess and there's 508 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: an edginess, a gruffness to it. And when the Steelers 509 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: were at their best. Buck I saw it when I 510 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: was in that division. It was James Harrison, like, those 511 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: guys were gruff and rough, and I think they've kind 512 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: of they've captured a little bit of that. We'll see 513 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: how it all comes together, but I think they have 514 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: captured that. Yeah. 515 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: So dj is one of the things that we talked 516 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: about because I remember playing for the Green Bay Packers 517 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: and we had Pittsburgh on the schedule and they're like, 518 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: the Stillers are come into town and just by coach 519 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 2: saying that, you knew what kind of game was coming. 520 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: And to me, we talk about like cultural fits, bringing 521 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: people in that fit. My dad, longtime high school coach, 522 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: would say, hey, man, if you canna be a championship squad, 523 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: you got to have a couple of guys that were 524 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: the heck a little cock to the side, Like you 525 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: gotta have a little little little ads to them. We're 526 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 2: gonna be disciplined in detail, but we got to have 527 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: a little dog to us if you're gonna compete at 528 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: that level. You talked about Jalen, Did I know that 529 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: about Johnny Smith? Aaron Rodgers. He likes to poke the 530 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: bear dis count double like he dude, think about. 531 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: Some of that. Think about Jack Sawyer, Like, just think 532 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: about Jack Sawyer and how he played at Ohio State. 533 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: There's a bulldog to Hampton, Wilson, all those other guys 534 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: like they they have a. 535 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: Team with some edginess to them. And I don't know, man, 536 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: I always feel like love him or hate him. I 537 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: always feel like coach tomlin is at his best when 538 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: his teams are dismissed, when they're kind of viewed as 539 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: afterthoughts are also rans. I'm saying that they're gonna host 540 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: the title, but I do know I have a better 541 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: feel on this team getting previouships. This team feels like 542 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: a still this team because even he's beloved in Pittsburgh, 543 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberg, he has what I call a little competitive 544 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: arrogance to him. Aaron Rodgers absolutely has that, and that 545 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: works in Pittsburgh. As much as I love Russell Wilson 546 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 2: and Justin Fields, their confidence is different than that competitive arrogance, 547 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: if it makes sense. 548 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: No, I one hundred percent agree with You know the 549 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: other thing I was thinking of with them, and you 550 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: look at some of the things they did in the draft, 551 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: some of those d linemen they got they got bigger, 552 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: and then talking to a bunch of teams around the league. 553 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've encountered this, but it's just 554 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: now kind of hit setting in as I'm replaying all 555 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: these conversations in my mind. It used to be five 556 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: years ago. You talk to people in training camp, and 557 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: everybody's always positive, right, and the thing they would say is, 558 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: you know what, we got faster? Like we got we 559 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: were more explosive, we got more dynamic. We just got 560 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: we're faster. I feel like every time I've talked to like, 561 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: the focus was we got to get bigger. We got 562 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: to get bigger and stronger. And I wonder if that's 563 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: the scheme thing, if that's everybody's playing too high. We 564 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: got to run the ball. Now we're going back to 565 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: nineties brand football physicality. We got to be able to 566 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: If we're going to play too high, we got to 567 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: be big upfront so that we can stop the run 568 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: with fewer bodies. Like I feel like, man, there's an 569 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: emphasis on getting big all of a sudden, I haven't 570 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: heard that in a while. 571 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: No, we hadn't heard it. But like we talk about, 572 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: the league always goes in cycles. So when all these teams. Defensively, 573 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: they want to put the little little guys on the field. 574 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: We gonna play with light boxes, We're gonna we're gonna 575 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: load it, play the mint front, the tight front, play 576 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 2: it from high and bounce it to the perimeter and 577 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: let all our little guys run it down. Well, the 578 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 2: one thing that you can't do is you can't run 579 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: down downhill runs when they run right at your left 580 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: and right and and and so when we talk about 581 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: playing big boy football, size matters, Physicality is everything. Yeah, 582 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: I feel like there is an embracing of some of 583 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: those old school tactics as the league is right to 584 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: kind of make another turn from pass heavy to a 585 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: little more old school and smash mouth in their nature. 586 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's an interesting point. The Steelers have 587 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: definitely done that. Uh buck, Let's go to the uh, 588 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: let's go to the other conference. Here. The teams you 589 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: think that are that are at least within striking distance 590 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: of the Philadelphia Eagles here. 591 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So look, we're just talking about three teams, and 592 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: the three teams I have listed in order, we got 593 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: to l a ram who are in the mix. We 594 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: have the Washington Commanders who are in the mix. And 595 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: then the Green Bay Packers who are talking about the 596 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: La Rams DJ some would say they probably should have 597 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: walked out the stadium last year, would have dubed that 598 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: they gave the Eagles the best game of any competitor 599 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: on the road to the super Bowl. And when you 600 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: know the Rams and you know Sean McVay and what 601 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: they've had to overcome last two years, one to four 602 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: starts still end up in the playoffs. So that's a 603 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: team that is tough, resilient. Sean McVeigh has the ability 604 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: to adapt and adjust to give his team what they need. 605 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: And then when you talk about Devontae Adams teaming up 606 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: with pookin the coop, Karen Williams in the backfield, offensive 607 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: line is solid, a young, hungry defense. I think they 608 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: have that. And they also have a little navete where 609 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: they're not afraid of the Rams, whether that's Jack versus 610 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: going in there talking's event. They have enough of that 611 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: prickly personality they can go and get it. 612 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: So that's why I got the Rams in the mix. Yeah, 613 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: I like the Rams. And as you mentioned, you already 614 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: talked about We've already discussed the Green Bay Packers and 615 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: our expectation for them. So let's get to the last 616 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: contender here, the Commanders. 617 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: There is something about the Commanders that are, like last 618 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: year Jaden Daniels, that team doing more with less and 619 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: you know it, DJ is no different than the conversation 620 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: we would have with Pittsburgh and Baltimore. There is conversation 621 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 2: in that locker room in Washington where they're saying, hey, man, 622 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: they may be the defending champs, but we know Philadelphia, 623 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: we know how to get down and so there's a 624 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: confidence in knowing that with this year, I see they 625 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: bring a much better team into that building to deal 626 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: with the Eagles. You think about the upgrades they made offensively, 627 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: Laomy Tosso, Deebo Samuel, I'm banking on Terry McLaurin showing up. 628 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: And then on defense the Vet crew look von Miller 629 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: nearing the end of his run, which you think about 630 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: Jonathan Jones and some of the other guys that they 631 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: brought in. They are Dietrich wise, they are just ready 632 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: to compete at a high level. And we know those 633 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: division games throughout the record. There's just a sys that 634 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: I get that Washington is ready to take that next step. 635 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I'm looking at their their defensive front 636 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: right now with Dorence Armstrong is there. He's been a 637 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: nice player both in Dallas Ham with them. Deron Payne, 638 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: we know about his ability. They bring in kin Law, 639 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: they bring in von Miller, Eddie Goldman, Dietrich Wise, They've 640 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 1: tried to add that add to that group. They've got 641 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: Newton coming back, their second round pick from the year before, 642 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: Cleef Farrell is there. Like, I see good players there 643 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: and Payne you know when he's rolling is a is 644 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: a great player. And then you go to the second 645 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: level you have Frankie Luvu who's a really good player. 646 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner is still going. I think they've got a 647 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: lot of good in there. I just that's I know 648 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: they beat the Eagles once last year, Buck, but the 649 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: Eagle beat the taste out of their mouth fifty five 650 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: in that last team, and they ran for two hundred 651 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: and thirty yards against them. So that's my question is 652 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: I love Jayden. I think Jayden takes the next level. 653 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: I think their offensive lines better, I think their secondary, 654 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: I think their corners are going to be good. I 655 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: like what they've done the last two drafts. They're to really, 656 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, upgrade that secondary. My question is, is that 657 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: front up to the challenge? Like that would be my 658 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: only question about them and the Eagles. 659 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, that's gonna be the thing that's 660 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: gonna be for anybody. I mean, the Eagles are the 661 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: most talented team in ball. I mean, you can talk 662 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: about Baltimore, but that offensive line only gets better. They 663 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: have weapons on the outside galore. Jalen Hurst is going 664 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: to have an edge because people are saying maybe he's 665 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: not a top ten quarterback, so he's always looking for 666 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: something to get him going. And on our side, we 667 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: provided him with enough chum in the water to get 668 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: going in and defensively should be a much better group 669 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: second year under Big Fangio. It's a tall task to 670 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: knock off the Eagles, but those three teams, it should 671 00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: be worthy competitor. 672 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: I gave you one nugget on the Eagles real quick, 673 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: what you got. I got a lot of a lot 674 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: of a lot of folks down there. I said, like, 675 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: give me somebody that's popped or whatever, and they're like, look, 676 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: you can make a case Quenya Mitchell is our best player. 677 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa and I love Quanya Mitchell and 678 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: he played great last year, but like they said, as 679 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: good as he was last year, he is tapped into 680 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: another gear. And that is a dude with all the 681 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: ability in the world. He's got legit four three speed. 682 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: We talked about dog and tenacity and edge. He's got that. 683 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of interesting. If you're looking 684 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: for guys to have monster years, that's that's Uh. That's 685 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: a guy who's so far in training camp's been lighting 686 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: it up. 687 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: Wow. How about that man? When your best your young players, if. 688 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: You think about who he's got to cover and practice 689 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: buck like he's doing that against real legit dudes. 690 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: I mean, if they're able to make that jump from 691 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: good to great and if Cooper Juan can go with him, 692 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: you talk about a team that is is ready. I mean, 693 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: look hats off to Howie and how they built this 694 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: team and how they back stop the positions where they 695 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: just have young guys ready to go, and how they 696 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: get them on the field. There's a talented team, and 697 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: I like Nick Sirianni's approach about we're not defending anything, 698 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 2: We're going for another one. We're going to get something 699 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: completely different. They appear to be in lockstep with the 700 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 2: head coach and so that bowls well for the future. 701 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: No, I love it well. This is a following buck 702 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: be sure to check out that article. If you have 703 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: to go to NFL dot com and find BUCkies work there. 704 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: Anything else you want to get to Buck we got 705 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: We're heading out to Cowboys to get some content for 706 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: the pod tomorrow. We've got Are you doing both these 707 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 1: preseason games with me on? 708 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: Oh? 709 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the Jags? You got the Jags, Yes, 710 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: I got Charters Saints, I believe Sunday. So but again, 711 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: a lot we're going to be around so at different camps, 712 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: different games, so we have more teams we can jump into. 713 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: But this has been fun. Appreciate you guys hanging with us, 714 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: and we'll see you next time. Right here, I'll move 715 00:34:52,680 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: the sticks four