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Speaker 1: over the next hour as we are going to hit

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Speaker 1: a slew of topics surrounding the NFL Draft, which is

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Speaker 1: just fourteen days away. I'm Kyle Yeomans alongside David Hellman.

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us in the great Dane Brugler and Brian.

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Speaker 1: I know we've kind of talked about this off the air,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, one of the craziest draft processes or

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Speaker 1: processes or whatever it even I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: the plural of that word is right now, one of

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Speaker 1: the craziest you've ever experienced, and well it continues to

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Speaker 1: get crazier as we have multiple Pro Days. We have

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Speaker 1: so many different things with the opt outs, We've got

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Speaker 1: injuries and players going to Indianapolis to check out the medicals.

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Speaker 1: Has there been a crazier year than this? And what

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Speaker 1: has been the craziest part for you so far in

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Speaker 1: this draft process? Yeah? You boys nervous yet were getting scared.

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Speaker 1: We've been ready to be a little bit a little

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Speaker 1: bit everybody. Everybody's operating under the same challenges. So we

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Speaker 1: feel good about that. Yeah, that's that is the good thing.

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Speaker 1: How and you're right about that, Dane, and I think

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Speaker 1: Kyle win and I know Dane and Dave. We all

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Speaker 1: have our sources. Kyle, you have your own sources. You know,

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Speaker 1: as you talk to guys and gals around the league,

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Speaker 1: there's so many that you know that there's things that

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Speaker 1: they learned last year with all the meetings and things

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Speaker 1: how to visit with players and how to get information.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they were able to get the Pro

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Speaker 1: days done, the fact that they were able to get

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Speaker 1: at least one hundred and fifty players in for physicals

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Speaker 1: last weekend, I think helps a lot of teams. I

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Speaker 1: know there's a bunch of anxiety among the teams about

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Speaker 1: these medicals and the lack of no combine. But at

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Speaker 1: least we've had the Pro days. Some guys are doubling

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Speaker 1: these teams. But the fact that they've got one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty medical s done last weekend, I think at

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Speaker 1: least gives these guys and gals a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a piece of mind. So, yeah, it is unusual what

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Speaker 1: we're dealing with right now, but as we all know,

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Speaker 1: the National Football League finds ways to adapt, and I

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Speaker 1: think everybody's doing the best they can right now with that. Dan,

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Speaker 1: and you mentioned the Pro days, the doubling up, and

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Speaker 1: really the main reason for that is we don't have

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Speaker 1: it's not just the forty nine ers that we're at.

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Speaker 1: But really it's about these quarterbacks and if you're able

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Speaker 1: We're just saying turn your mic down again just so

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Speaker 1: do they know who they're taking at number three? Bryan, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they know damn good and Will who they're

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Speaker 1: But then you've got former Shanahan players coming out. Richard

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Speaker 1: then that's a great point because you think about all

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Speaker 1: Why'd you make this decision? Why'd you do this? Go

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Speaker 1: would you do differently? Those are the things that you

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Speaker 1: know we could do through a virtual meeting, through a

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Speaker 1: it just happens that it might be the toughest year

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Speaker 1: what players are you okay with trading away from at

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Speaker 1: for a guy in the later rounds with specific intent

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Speaker 1: to only use as a special teamer kind of like

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Speaker 1: what CJ. Goodwin does with the Cowboys right now? If so,

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Speaker 1: who would that player be? Like Dane Brugler. I feel

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Speaker 1: like this is right up your alley. Sure that thing

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Speaker 1: that's certainly possible. And when you're looking in those late rounds,

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Speaker 1: if you're look you're looking for guys that might have

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Speaker 1: a future role on offensor defense. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: you know what they're going to bring on special teams.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about, you know, a guy like Jalen

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Speaker 1: Camp at Georgia Tech who you know, does not have

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Speaker 1: a ton of production at receiver, needs to developing areas.

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Speaker 1: But you're talking about a guy that was a special

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Speaker 1: team stud at Georgia Tech. And he looks like he's

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Speaker 1: six two two twenty six, ran a four four five

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Speaker 1: in the forty yard dash, and you talked to his

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Speaker 1: head coach about camp as a as a special teamer

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Speaker 1: and he says he brings it every day physically, mentally,

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Speaker 1: and so at that point in the draft, that's the

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Speaker 1: type of guy you're looking for. Avery Williams from Boise

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Speaker 1: State one of the more fascinating players in this draft.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about his special team's impact, he had

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Speaker 1: was like nine touchdowns over his career as a returner.

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Speaker 1: He had six blocks, forced fumble on kickoff coverage. So

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Speaker 1: you know, that's a guy that teams aren't sure what

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Speaker 1: to do with him. Could he you know, is he

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Speaker 1: a corner, is he a running back? There's split opinion there,

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Speaker 1: but they know what he brings on special teams. And

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Speaker 1: I actually that I had in my seventh round mock.

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Speaker 1: I had the Cowboys go in that direction in the

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Speaker 1: seventh round. But we'll hold that to the next second. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Dane where do you have the USC the safety Hafanga.

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Speaker 1: Where do you have him on your board? Fourth round? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Probably somewhere in that late fourth, early fifth. Okay, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's why I got him. I

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Speaker 1: got him in the fifth round. And this is to me,

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Speaker 1: the USC safety this is worse. This is a guy

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Speaker 1: that's going to make his mark on special teams really

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Speaker 1: early in his career, and then he's going to figure

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Speaker 1: out They're like, they're going to figure out spots to

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Speaker 1: play him though. So I just feel like, because then

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Speaker 1: there's a guy he's always in the right place at

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Speaker 1: the right time type of a player. But there's some

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Speaker 1: there are some things about his game though that you know,

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Speaker 1: we're going to need some refinement. But when you when

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Speaker 1: when you when you think about those guys, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of those safety linebacker guys. He was the one

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Speaker 1: guy as you named, you name two quality players that

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you on. But this Hafanga from USC,

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Speaker 1: if he's drafted later, he might not get picked by

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but if you see him going somewhere that

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Speaker 1: will probably be his role. Initially, I think he'll be

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Speaker 1: a really good special teams player for somebody, and then

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Speaker 1: they'll figure out how to incorporate him as either safety

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Speaker 1: or a linebacker in that scheme. I'm just gonna step

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Speaker 1: out on a limb and say, with what with the

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Speaker 1: influence that we've seen John Fossil have this offseason, you know,

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Speaker 1: probably had a call in the Chris Jones decision, although

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Speaker 1: that's you know, that's about money as well, but brought

560
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Speaker 1: in his long snapper over the longest tenured player on

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Speaker 1: the team, resigned C. J. Goodwin who was their best

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Speaker 1: special team or brought back Cedric Wilson. I bet, starting

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Speaker 1: on day three, I bet John Fossil is going to

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Speaker 1: be in the war room quite a bit looking for

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Speaker 1: guys like that. Yeah, once you get into the fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 1: seventh round, you better be able to have a role

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Speaker 1: on special teams or else. What's the point, honestly, because

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Speaker 1: those guys are usually not competing for legitimate playing time

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Speaker 1: on offense or defenses. Rookies. Um, I'm not saying. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he's like my favorite player, but when you

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Speaker 1: like a question like that just makes me think about

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Speaker 1: tough Borland. Um, just you know, like you're you're not

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Speaker 1: you're not drafting him to probably ever be a meaningful defender,

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Speaker 1: but like, he's a high and tangible guy, high effort guy,

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Speaker 1: not a super great athlete, but he can he can

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Speaker 1: do stuff like that. And you know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he would even be a draft pick or a

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Speaker 1: free agent or whatever, but you know, the Cowboys found

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Speaker 1: a guy a lot like that in Luke Gifford a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and uh, you know, those are

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Speaker 1: the types of players that make their living on special teams.

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Speaker 1: So absolutely, Mike comp My camp for tough Borland is

583
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Speaker 1: Tyler Matakavi at a Temple who has been that guy

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Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh and now with the believe with the Bills

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Speaker 1: not going to see a lot of defensive snaps, but

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Speaker 1: on special teams. That's going to keep him in the

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Speaker 1: NFL or in a paycheck Borland of course out of

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Speaker 1: Ohio state. And then I just want to add a

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Speaker 1: note on Jalen Camp. You mentioned Tim Dane twenty zeven

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Speaker 1: was the record in terms of the bench press for

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. He put up thirty bench reps in his

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Speaker 1: pro day, which I know won't be a combine record,

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Speaker 1: but goodness gracious, he put up thirty reps on bench.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty impressive from a guy who at

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Speaker 1: least as a wide receiver could come in and be

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Speaker 1: a special team stud. Okay, this one comes from Christopher.

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Speaker 1: What players are you okay with trading away from at

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Speaker 1: the tenth overall pick? When is it considered running from

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Speaker 1: your board? Brian, We'll start with you on this one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm totally against running from the board myself. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I always, I always have questions about that. I kind

602
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Speaker 1: of feel like though, that you get into a situation

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Speaker 1: too where people are always interested in getting out of

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Speaker 1: that pick. I you know, I just feel like it

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Speaker 1: the tin hole just to me sit there and pick

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Speaker 1: this player. You know, you know they're gonna have the opportunity,

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Speaker 1: whether it's an offensive tackle. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that tight end's gonna get to you. I really really don't.

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a quality cornerback there, you know,

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Speaker 1: So to me, I'm gonna I can't answer your question

611
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Speaker 1: away because I don't want to run away from that spot,

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Speaker 1: I really do. I just the players have evaluated. I

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Speaker 1: feel like those guys deserve to be picked at dead

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Speaker 1: ten spot. You know, we'll see what happens with Parsons

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Speaker 1: and people like that. I'm kind of getting some getting

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Speaker 1: some vibe that maybe that Parsons wouldn't be the pick

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Speaker 1: at ten, that maybe they might be in the situation

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Speaker 1: where they would go another direction. But me personally, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to trade from anybody in this uh, in

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Speaker 1: this spot at ten. Now you get to some other spots,

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Speaker 1: I'll work with you, but I'm not really interested in

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Speaker 1: moving away from from anybody right now. Dave, there's a

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Speaker 1: high high chance that the pick is going to be

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Speaker 1: soul Slater, certain Horn. That anybody disagree with that, I don't, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you at all. And and you

626
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Speaker 1: feel that's why I'm not interested in moving right right really,

627
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Speaker 1: and I think we can all feel really good that

628
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Speaker 1: one of those four is going to be there at

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Speaker 1: pick number ten. Yep. You know, good chance four or

630
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Speaker 1: five quarterbacks go ahead of you. Good chance Kyle Pitts

631
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Speaker 1: has gone at least one of those receivers. So one

632
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Speaker 1: of those four is going to be there for you

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Speaker 1: at ten. It would be tough to trade away from

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Speaker 1: one of those four players. I don't see it happening.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a very high chance that the Cowboys

636
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Speaker 1: are going to be coming away with one of those

637
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Speaker 1: four guys, and it just kind of depends how the

638
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Speaker 1: first nine picks play out. Yeah, okay, but you gotta sorry, Kyle,

639
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Speaker 1: like you gotta throw in the caveat that. You never

640
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: know for sure how this thing's gonna fall. And I

641
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: agree with everything y'all just said. But if a quarterback

642
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: is there, if for some dumb reason, Justin Fields falls

643
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: to ten, and I can set the price like apt

644
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: like if I can just absolutely hold somebody hostage for

645
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: what I want, Like if if New England or Chicago

646
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: wants Justin Fields and I can just make them hurt,

647
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: like next year's first and maybe and day two picks

648
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: this year on top of that, like if New England

649
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: wants to give me next year's one and one of

650
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: their threes this year to drop back five spots, I

651
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: would I would trade away from a really good player

652
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 1: to do that. Is what is your level of where

653
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: do you have Newsome in relation to Certannon Horn not

654
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: on the same level. But if I came away with

655
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: him at fifteen and got all of that stuff in return,

656
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: I would feel okay, with that or even you know,

657
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: I was about to say, I agree with what y'all

658
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: just said, like Sewell, Slater Horn certain, and I don't

659
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: think he'll be there, but I'll throw in pits like

660
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: those five guys. I feel really, really, really really good

661
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: about drafting. But if the Cowboys, you know, obviously we

662
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: know they don't always agree with us, if the Cowboys

663
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: wanted to draft Parsons or quitty Pay at ten, I

664
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: would bail the hell out of there so fast. But

665
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: I would be perfectly happy drafting quitty Pay at fifteen

666
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: on top of getting all those draft picks. Absolutely, I

667
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: would feel just fine. The only way you would feel

668
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: about me personally that I would feel good about leaving

669
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: ten is if you got completely wiped out and I

670
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: but in the more I look at this draft, the

671
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: more I talk to people around the league that are

672
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: working on these boards and trying to get the tiers

673
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: of the players. Dans right, You're going to have a

674
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: very good player at ten to draft, and you're it's

675
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: just a matter of you handing in that cart. I

676
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: don't want to get cute at ten. And I understand

677
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: Dave what you're talking about with the quarterbacks, and stuff

678
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: like that. But if you're telling me, say just why

679
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: I was gauging on Newsome, if you think that Newsome

680
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: and he would be the one guy that I think

681
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: I would if I was trading down that I would

682
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: keep an eye on. But I've also done a study

683
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: too about all these quarterbacks and all these cornerback meeting

684
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: needy teams behind you. You know that all of a sudden,

685
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Okay, if I drop back five spots, is

686
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: that cornerback I'm gonna want? Because if you don't feel

687
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: like there's a big drop off between Newsome and Horn

688
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: and Certan, then go ahead, yeah, back up, see what

689
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: you could do. But I feel like that they're probably

690
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: going to feel like that either the offensive tackle Certan

691
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: or Horne is going to be too valuable for them

692
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: to move away from. And I just want to be clear,

693
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with anything you just said, and I

694
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: think that's probably what will happen, and I would be

695
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: just fine with that. But let's just use the Patriots

696
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: as an example, because we know that they don't have

697
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: a long term quarterback situation. They have a lot of

698
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: draft picks. Like if the Patriot, if you if you

699
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 1: drop back to fifteen and wound up with their one

700
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: next year and pick ninety six. Say you take five

701
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: times five times in the top one hundred and add

702
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: next year's first round pick. Like you, that doesn't tempt

703
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: you at all? Cowboys might do that. Yeah, but I'll

704
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: tell you this though. I'll tell you this though, well, okay,

705
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: depending on who you got it fifteen though, if you're

706
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: if they're comfortable taking Newsome or yeah, one of those guys,

707
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: if they're if they're comfortable, if they're comfortable taking bar

708
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: More Me personally, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. But that's what

709
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. This is where you don't think about trade

710
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: in a way next year's one could get you to

711
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I'll tell you a trade I would

712
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: make if you if you want, I'd give I'd give

713
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: Washington their quarterback at ten. But I'm asking you for

714
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: chase you and coming back I'll take nine. Yeah, yeah,

715
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: what do you how bad? How bad do you want

716
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 1: my pick? You know what I'm seeing how the Lincoln

717
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: Monument as well? Yeah, I mean, well, you're saying, you're

718
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: saying that New Englid's gonna get you one. You for

719
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: sure on that. No, but that's what I'm that's what

720
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: I want, and then it would be reasonable. It's it's

721
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: to me. Then if you get if you get forty

722
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: six from them, I think you're doing good bye that.

723
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: I think if you get their second round pick for

724
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: a five spot move, that's a way over pay on

725
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: their part. We all understand the value of quarterbacks. Okay,

726
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: football team, I'll see how bad you want your quarterback,

727
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: how bad you want you enough to give up one

728
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: of your guys. See, that's kind of that's that's how you,

729
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: that's how you. Okay. So that's the same thing I

730
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: say about the Patriots, same thing would be way. I

731
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: think they'd be way more willing to give up a

732
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: future pick than Washington would be willing to give up

733
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: one of the best pass rushers in the league who's

734
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: on a rookie deal for four more years, like one

735
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: of them. I'm about to give you, I'm about to

736
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: give your quarterback, about to give your quarterback. I ain't try.

737
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: I'm not doing a quarterback deal with a division rival.

738
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: That's just asking for that's just a freaking nightmare, asking

739
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: for tru That's why, that's why you asked, that's why

740
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: you asked for a big time player in return. Yeah,

741
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: is not going to make you feel a lot better

742
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: if Justin Fields turns out to be paid and manning

743
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: like that is just a say you take, you take

744
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: their best player and you take the nineteenth pick. But

745
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm seeing I think New England value. New England understands

746
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: the value of a quarterback. I would see them over

747
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: paying for giving you forty six and calling it a today.

748
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: I could see that. I would be shocked. I would

749
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: be shocked if they said we'll throw in next year's one.

750
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: I would be shocked. On that's then you don't do it. Yeah,

751
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: if they won't do it, then I'd say, great, I'm

752
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna draft sir tin Horns later or stool and feel

753
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: awesome about it, like this isn't hard even with all

754
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: but go for it, Brian, go ahead. No, I'm fine,

755
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: go ahead. I was just gonna say, even with all

756
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: four of those names put out there, and I would

757
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: agree with you guys in terms of those names. But

758
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: whenever I'm building my board. But as far as the

759
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys are leaning, things that I've heard, I've heard offensive

760
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: tackles kind of off the board at ten. I've heard

761
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: that they are not necessarily interested in that. Now I

762
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: could be totally wrong, but that's something that I would

763
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: definitely want. But I'm a little disappointed because I don't

764
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: think they're as interested. I think it's going to be

765
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: a defensive player and or Kyle Pitts that falls there

766
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: at ten, and that's who they're going to ultimately end

767
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: up take. If they if they take, if they take

768
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: Quitty Pay, like Daniel Jeremiah says they are at ten, man,

769
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: I'd be I would be. I would I would be

770
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: highly disappointed, especially if one of those corners was on

771
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: that board, because quite pay. Yeah, that would be the patented.

772
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: That would be about eight seconds of silence in the

773
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: studio before somebody tries to figure out something nice to say,

774
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: just like another Michigan pass rusher in the first round. Though, Guys,

775
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremia, ain't that guy that throw it up against

776
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: the wall and see what happened. Now, when you got

777
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: a guy that's a scout, that's been a scout for

778
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: a long time and he's got friends and stuff like that,

779
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 1: he is the only mock draft and I've ever seen

780
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: has Quitty Pay going at ten, am I wrong as

781
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: anybody seen anything that scares me? Maybe maybe maybe he

782
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: don't know something. Yeah, maybe he knows something that the

783
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: rest of us don't know. If you're gonna take a

784
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: defensive end at ten, take OJILARI, take Ojilari from Georgia

785
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: instead of Pay. But the fact that he said that

786
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: it gave me pause. It was like it hit me

787
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: in the stomach and I went, oh, he knows something,

788
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of thing, So that this goes

789
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: to show you. But if you're trading back, that's who

790
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're talking about Quitty Pay and guys

791
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: like that, you know, and we're like, oh, but we

792
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: gotta pick Yeah, we gotta pick Man. But we got

793
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 1: Quitty Pay though, too. And you know, I'm not so

794
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: you're so desperate to get rid of Picks you never

795
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: want to add him like that just that avides you. Yeah, No,

796
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: like let's try out, Hey, yeah, to get up to

797
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: the top five, but hey, I want to add picks.

798
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: I am all for taking forty four and seventy five

799
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: and one up in the bottom of the first round.

800
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. I'm a that I'm saying, what if

801
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: you take if you if you take an offensive player,

802
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: and what if you what if you get one of

803
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: those corners? What if you and it doesn't have to

804
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: be newsome, but what if you, like, I mean, give me,

805
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: give me day, give me all your second round corners,

806
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: Give me every one of your second round corners. The

807
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: two Georgia kids, Stokes and Campbell, Kelvin Joseph at of Kentucky,

808
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: uh Sante Samuel Florida State. Is that who you're going

809
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: up for is one of those one of those That's

810
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying though, if you got if you they might

811
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: have those guys, is you know, they might have those

812
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: guys like you know, like the like a grade of

813
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: of a one two one or one two right on

814
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: the top of that second right at the end of

815
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: that maybe it's the nineteenth player on their board. You know,

816
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: I have nineteen first round grades, so number twenty far more.

817
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of where I'm starting right now.

818
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: So but maybe one of those quarters. Brian, really quickly

819
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: just kind of adding on to your point, since we're

820
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: talking about this already, I'm gonna throw in our third

821
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: twitter on the twenty question, Ashley Hutchins says, how soon

822
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys will start taking a hard

823
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: look at picking and edge rushers. So maybe edge rushers

824
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: up there in that twenty realm is that of potential

825
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: if you wanted to go back up and get one.

826
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 1: If not, when did they start thinking about it? I would,

827
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, I kind of feel like

828
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: that if they took an offensive player, and again we

829
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: talked about this was all the stuff with Pitts. We

830
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be there, Kylee. You just reported

831
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: that you don't think they're gonna take offensive tackle. Don't

832
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: think so. Well, if that's the case, that yeah, if

833
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: that's the case, then then there's no reason. The only

834
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: way I would consider going back up into the round

835
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: is if one of those offensive tackles was there. You

836
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: took that guy, and then you wanted to get back

837
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: in and get one of those corners, those second round corners,

838
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: you know, or the guys it's a second round grade

839
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: on your board. Remember guys, they drafted Travis Frederick in

840
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: the first round, but he was a second round grade

841
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: on their board. You don't have thirty two first round grades.

842
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: You just don't have it. So whoever they're coming back

843
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: in for they're getting a guy that's real close to

844
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: being Like Dane likes to say, oh, one, two, whether

845
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: right on that edge. You know, I'm okay. If you're

846
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: telling me I could go back in and get that guy,

847
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: I could. I could pick a guy at ten, I

848
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: could pick a guy at twenty six, and I could

849
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: pick a guy at ninety nine. I feel like I've

850
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: had a pretty damn good day to start out those

851
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: first three picks. Kyle to you know, specifically, the question

852
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: about when you consider pass rusher. You consider pass rusher

853
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: at every single pick. You know, if a pass rusher

854
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: is there that you think is going to impact your

855
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: team in a big way, you take them, and you know,

856
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: maybe they do have a high grade on quitty pay.

857
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: You know, time will tell. In the second round, it

858
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: could be a Joe try On from Washington or turn

859
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: or from Houston. There you go. You know, I don't

860
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: think there's necessarily well, okay, we'll wait till third round

861
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: before we consider you know, every single pick. I think

862
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: there might be a player at the pass rush position,

863
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be in the conversation that they would consider.

864
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: There's a sweet spot. This second round could be a

865
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: lot of fun for some teams drafted in my affair,

866
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: because to me, there's pockets of guys, whether you need

867
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, whether you need an offensive tackle, maybe

868
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: those defensive ends, corner, We're starting to see some of

869
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: those safeties this second round. Now, again, my whole thing

870
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: about trading back in is if you wanted to be

871
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: the corner, if you drafted the first offensive player, or

872
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: or you wanted to you know, to make that but

873
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, you could pick at forty four and seventy

874
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: five and be and and and really I think do

875
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: some really some good things because there's certain positions that

876
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: have great depth within the position, and I think that

877
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: some teams are gonna some kind of hit some home

878
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: runs on So I'm want to move on to this

879
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: next question. This comes from Cammy Hawk. She says, could

880
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons play more of a Vic Beasley role and

881
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's defense Beasley was the same size as Parsons

882
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: coming out of school and that also has the pass

883
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: rush background. Do you think there's a chance that Micah

884
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: Parsons could kind of fit into that whole? Brian, Yeah,

885
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: And to the point of the question, I yeah, absolutely.

886
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: The one thing I think that Parsons can do is

887
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: can rush. I mean he's got the size, he's got

888
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: that kind of ability. Again, just getting that vibe that

889
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: Parsons really not in the mix for a spot I

890
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: think at tend but might might be getting lied to guys,

891
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: I'll admit that, but I say Pitt was. There's there's

892
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: a lot of things. There's a lot of things you

893
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: need to dig in on this player. And if you're

894
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: comfortable taking the player, great, If not, let somebody else

895
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: have that honor of doing that. But yeah, to the point, yeah,

896
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: I think that I think you have a potential pass

897
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: rusher on your hands when it comes to the linebacker spot. Yeah,

898
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: if he's the pick, he better he'd better contribute to

899
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: the pass rush in a serious way like he needs to.

900
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: And I feel like I bring it up a lot

901
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: because it just happened. But you know, Todd Bowles schemed

902
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: up away for Devin White to have nine sacks last year.

903
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he was, he was a significant part of

904
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: that pass rush which already had good pass rushers, and

905
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: he that wasn't even really part of his you know

906
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: thumb thumbnail coming out of college. That wasn't something that

907
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: he did at a you know, I mean he can't.

908
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: He could do it, but didn't do it all the time,

909
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: and they still managed to find a way to do it.

910
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: So with that type of athleticism and knowing that he

911
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: can do it, like, he'd better be contributing to the

912
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: pass rush for him to be worth that that high

913
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: a pick. In my opinion, there's no question that he

914
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: could because that's what he did in high school. He's

915
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: a pass rusher the defensive end. He didn't move to

916
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: off ball until he got to college, so you know,

917
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: you look at his Ziz Augillarry Aziz Audilary is three

918
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: pounds heavier than Michael Parsons, So we're not talking about

919
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: a linebacker here, right. Michael Parsons is an eleven inch hands,

920
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: humongous hands. You know, there's a lot of things that

921
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: you point to and say, yeah, he could be a

922
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: pretty dynamic blitzer for us. So I think if you

923
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: draft Michael Parsons, you do it with the understanding that

924
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna do a little bit of everything for you

925
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: and you need to be a little creative with how

926
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: you use them. But with a talent like that, I

927
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: think you can do it. It should be fun to

928
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: watch because I mean, Parson's is one of those names

929
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: that could sneak into that conversation. But is he really

930
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: in that conversation. That's kind of what we're waiting until

931
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: draft night to really see. Okay, final question, real quickly.

932
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys Lucadour says Certan is the obvious front runner at ten,

933
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: but is there a front runner available at forty four? Dane,

934
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: I feel like you got this. Is there a front

935
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: runner for the Cowboys at forty four? We'll talk about

936
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: your mock draft in a second. It's so hard because

937
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: you just don't know how the first forty three picks

938
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: are gonna play out, Like could it be a safety?

939
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: You know, it could Richie Grant or Trevon Merrick if

940
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: they were to fall there to forty four be the favorite.

941
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: Maybe one of those pass rushers assuming they go corner

942
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: in the first So I don't know, to be honest

943
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: with you, it's just it's hard to have a favorite

944
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 1: in the second round for this team. Maybe a Levi

945
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: Ionzerique defensive tackle. Don't rule that out. I mean I

946
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: think there's plenty of possibilities, and this is one of

947
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: those drafts like like like several other drafts we've seen

948
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: in recent memory, where pick twenty three isn't necessarily that

949
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: different than forty three, and you know, there's just a

950
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: wide grouping of players that are on a similar talent level.

951
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: So you know, you're feeling pretty good sitting there at

952
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: what is it pick forty four that you're gonna get

953
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: a solid player. You know you're gonna have a list

954
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: of guys, though I don't think there's one necessary a

955
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: favorite in the second round. I'm praying to the draft

956
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:00,280
Speaker 1: gods right now that that jam and Davis from from

957
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: from somehow some way from Kentucky, like does something crazy

958
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: that gets him to get to forty four. That would

959
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: be my if you want to sacrifice something to the

960
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: draft gods beforehand, think about him. But I do like

961
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: what Dane's saying. I think that TCUs safety is definitely

962
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: on their radar, though that would be one that and

963
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: this team might not, you know, I mean, this team

964
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: has this team is allergic to safeties. They really are,

965
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean especially you know it's like they get you know,

966
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: they start getting the sheiks when they see his safety.

967
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: But this is a different group at forty four. I

968
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: think you know. And I'll even throw the Holland kid

969
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: in there from Oregon. I mean, I've talked about him

970
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: about I like him as a player. I throw him

971
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: up there with the Grants and the TCU kid and

972
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: all that. I think that he's a guy that we

973
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: don't talk nearly enough about. There's no way, there's no

974
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: way to know the name. Like I know, you know

975
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: we're experts or whatever, but there's just appolutely no way.

976
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy that was the pick at fifty

977
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: one last year was somebody that we spent most of

978
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: the spring talking about as a possibility in the first round. Yea.

979
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: And but that I think that gives you a hint

980
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: as to what will happen. And maybe this sounds obvious,

981
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: but think about the trouble spots. All right, let's just

982
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: assume Patrick Sir Tanner J C. Horne is going to

983
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 1: be the pick. I think that is a fantastic bet

984
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: I would put if I was a betting man, I

985
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: would put good money on it. So if you know

986
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: that they're going to do that now at forty four,

987
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: think about the trouble spots offensive tackle, linebacker, safety, maybe

988
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Yeah, there's gonna be a guy sitting there

989
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: that makes your eyebrows go like, whoa, he's still there,

990
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe it's your linebacker. Maybe it's you know,

991
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: maybe it's Richie Graham, maybe it's Trevon marrig maybe you know,

992
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: I say his name all the time. But maybe like

993
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: an Alex Leatherwood for some reason is still sitting there

994
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: for you. I tend to doubt it, but who knows.

995
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: They're will be a guy there that you just like,

996
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: it just jumps out, and I like, that'll be the

997
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: pick that would be my guests. They might double dip

998
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: on those corners. If you take one at ten, there

999
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: might be it might be too good to pass up

1000
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: at forty four, you know, and at Basham is another

1001
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: kid I forgot to mention from from wake forth as

1002
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: a defensive end, you know, two or yeah, keep an

1003
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: eye on a guy like that as well. Man. There's

1004
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: I could say, guys at forty four, there's going to

1005
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: be a pocket of players that Dave talks about the

1006
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: eyebrows going up and it's son to be like, Okay,

1007
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: on the stack, we've got this guy and it's like unbelievable,

1008
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: We've got an option, you know, of say four or

1009
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: five guys at different positions. I mean, you could go

1010
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: a lot of different directions with that pick at forty

1011
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: four and help your football team. Carlos Boogie Basham. I

1012
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,000
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Speaker 1: fifty nine picks, but kind of explain in a summary

1058
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: what your thought process was whenever the Cowboys came up

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00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: at ten and beyond. Yeah, it's an interesting exercise because

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00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: it really makes you focus on, Okay, what are the

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00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: draft habits of each team organization GM trying to focus

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00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: on not just the needs, but what you know. Certain

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00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: teams will draft certain positions at a certain point. Some

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00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: teams will avoid certain positions at a certain point in

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00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: the draft. So trying to keep track of all that

1066
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: is really interesting and it helps kind of prepare you

1067
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: for the actual draft. But in this scenario, five quarterbacks

1068
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: came off the board in the first nine picks, both

1069
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: tackles later and Sewell came off the board, and then

1070
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: so did Pitts. So you're looking at the first defensive

1071
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: player off the board at number ten, which is crazy.

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00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: I went back to the in the Super Bowl era,

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00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: so in nineteen sixty seven, before the merger, we've only

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00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: had there's only been one time where a defensive player

1075
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: lasted until a seventh pick before they were drafted. That

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00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: was Champ Bailey in ninety nine. So for a defensive

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00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: player to last all the way to ten, it's kind

1078
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: of crazy. But here we are there's a good chance

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Speaker 1: that that's how it plays out. And in this scenario,

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00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: Patrick's ter Tan sitting there for the Cowboys there at

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00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: the tenth pick, and it kind of just makes too

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00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: much sense not to happen. So they go get their

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00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: their top pick overall. Then after that they go safety

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00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: in the second round with a guy that Brian you

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00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: mentioned in the last segment, Javon Holland out of Oregon.

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Speaker 1: What was your thought process with Holland instead of maybe

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00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: one of those other safeties and or defensive tackles that

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00:56:54,880 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: could have been there. Well, Richie Grant was off the board,

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00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: I believe Trevon Marik, Yeah, Marek was off the board

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00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: as well. So this really came down to, Okay, we

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00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: could go defensive tackle with Ozerique, we could go safety

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Speaker 1: with Holland. Uh, the worth few tackles still left with

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00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: a Sam Cosmi or uh, you know, Carlos Basham was

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00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: still there, who I think would be a nice fit

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00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: in this defense, back end of this this defense, And

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00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: I know it's a position that they will avoid in

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00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: the early rounds, but at some point that's just you

1098
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: got to get past that, right, I mean, at some

1099
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: point you have to invest some really quality players in

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: your safety position. And Javon Holland, I think at pick

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00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: number forty four, like the fit, like what he brings,

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00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: he's going to compete at both a nickel and as

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00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: a free safety. I don't know, Brian, what do you

1104
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 1: think about Holland? I love to pick that's a true

1105
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: free safety right there. That's around the foot, he tackles well,

1106
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: that he plays the ball, he gets his hands on balls,

1107
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: he's got This is a true free safety. And you

1108
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: just watched the tape watch him play down after down.

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00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he is, he's got a chance, I think

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00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: to be a special player. I love the fact that

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00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: Dane mocked him. When I saw that, I was saying, Okay,

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00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: we're off to a great start here. You got a

1113
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: corner and now a true free safety. So I applaud

1114
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: the pick. I think that. I think Dane did a

1115
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: great job for the Cowboys picking there at forty four.

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00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: I want to throw this in too, and Dan, I mean,

1117
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: you're you're right. And I'm the king of saying I'll

1118
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: believe they draft the safety when I see it. But

1119
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: the new de coordinator loves him some safety play. He

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00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: drafted Keyan O'Neal in the first round when he was

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00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: the head guy in Atlanta. He brought him here. He

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00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: brought Kazi here. He worked with Earl Thomas and Cam Chancellor.

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Speaker 1: And I need to follow up on this. I don't know.

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00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure if he went, but Dan

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00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: Quinn was supposed to go to Eugene for Oregon's pro day.

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00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: Pretty sure he is there. Yeah, I think he is.

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00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: Now you can tell now, you tell me why the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys de coordinator would be there because I mean, I

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00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: know there are some other guys coming out of Oregon,

1130
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: but like nobody that like is on the decordinator level

1131
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: where your best defensive coach needs to go look at

1132
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: him with his own eyes. So Dan Quinn certainly wanted

1133
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: to take a look at Javon Holland. So I definitely

1134
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: think that's a name worth knowing. There's also maybe a

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00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: new need for edge rusher as we conclude the draft show,

1136
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: as Alden Smith has agreed to terms on a one

1137
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: year deal with the Seattle Seahawks according to Ian Rapp

1138
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: Report as of fifty seconds ago. Actually, and that's not

1139
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: fifty seconds ago, says fifty minutes ago, So there's a

1140
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: couple minutes in between there. But I mean, edge rusher

1141
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: may be there. In the second round. There might be

1142
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: a couple guys there, like a Carlos Basham that you

1143
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: might want to look at. Tell me about the rest

1144
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: of the picks, Dane, really quickly before we wrap things up.

1145
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Speaker 1: I really like your third round pick, or this one

1146
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: at seventy five rather from Marlin two Polo to the

1147
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: USC defensive tackle. I really like that one overall. Yeah,

1148
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: I like the fit there I like the depth there.

1149
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: I think he's an interchangeable defensive tackle, can play the one,

1150
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: can play the three. At seventy five, good value. Deonte

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Speaker 1: Smith at left tackle at pick ninety nine. He's a

1152
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: guy you you draft and develop, you know. I think

1153
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: he's your long term succession plan at left tackle. Fourth round.

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01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: I love pick one fifteen Chauncey Golston. He's your new

1155
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford. You know, he can reduce inside, he can

1156
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: give you juice off the edge. Love the instincts, love

1157
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: the motor. Dylan Moses also in the fourth round, a

1158
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: guy that has an injury history, but take a swing

1159
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: at that point. He because he has early round talent.

1160
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: With Trevon Grimes wide receiver in the fifth, you know

1161
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: a guy that you added to the depth chart, John Bates,

1162
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: this is the token Boise State player that the Cowboys

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01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: have to draft. Also had him going guard center in

1164
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: the sixth round. William Sherman at a Colorado and then

1165
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: in the seventh Kenny Nuwongu running back at Iowa. Stay

1166
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: who's a big time special teams guy, can help out

1167
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: and stick on a roster which just based on special teams.

1168
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: So I doubt they're gonna make all those picks. Not

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01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: those specific players, but just make those picks in general.

1170
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 1: I think we'll see a move around a little bit,

1171
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: but with where things stand right now, I think that's

1172
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: a kind of realistic look at how they could go. Yeah.

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01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: I like what you did with Sherman at the very

1174
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: end of the draft, though I watched the Colorado tape.

1175
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: He plays tackle. You could plug him in a guard.

1176
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: This guy gets movement in the running game. Gonna need

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01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: some work on the past technique stuff and all that,

1178
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: But you talk about a big, powerful guy. That's what

1179
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: you're looking for. Traits, guys who can develop, Guys who

1180
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: play a couple of different positions. Hey, Dane had a

1181
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: hell of a draft with the Cowboys there. I really

1182
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: really do. I like what he did with all his picks.

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01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm here for it. I love the first three for sure. Yeah,

1184
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: but first four you gotta go study that. He'st Carolina tackle.

1185
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: That guy's a good player. Now, he is a really

1186
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: good player. Well pounds, a little bit of a lighter guy,

1187
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: but great on his feet, I mean great on his feet.

1188
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: I even like your thought process going later on getting

1189
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the fifth, getting it tied ind

1190
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: in the six, interior offensive line in the six as well.

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01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of different ways you could go,

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01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: and he's one of those guys that I think it's

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01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: off the board exactly. Yeah, they line up later on

1194
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: and they figure things out, and I think that's a

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01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: great way to put a Dane great job. And you

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01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: can also go check out the entire seven round mock draft,

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Speaker 1: all two hundred and fifty nine picks on the Athletic

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Speaker 1: Go subscribe and follow Dane brugler Is. Of course, he

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Speaker 1: does great work there. He does great work here on

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. That's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for us next week. Get ready, We've got some

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Speaker 1: live mock drafts coming your way. Will do it on

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Speaker 1: the show, we'll talk about it, we'll react to it.

1204
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Speaker 1: Plus we're gonna start giving our top fives at each

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Speaker 1: position starting next week when we come back on the

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