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Speaker 1: Slash podcast Yestiday.

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Speaker 3: R and B Money, Thank take mellogib. We are the authorities.

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Speaker 1: R and B dies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: I'm Jay Valentine and this is the R and B

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Speaker 4: Money Podcast and to day.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I got R and B Royalty on this thing

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Speaker 1: with me.

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Speaker 4: My brother man, Listen, he has sold a lot of records.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's been in the group, he's been solo.

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Speaker 4: He's part of the married R and B fellas. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna ask a lot of questions about that. How you

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Speaker 4: be married in this R and B thing, because you

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Speaker 4: know it could get tricky?

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Speaker 1: But you know, uh, only you, hey, only you? You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Baby Cupid shot him down. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, man, it's probably the pieces of cream. Man.

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Speaker 1: We're about to get into it. My brother, y'all, brother

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Speaker 1: Q Parker is here today. What's up, y'all?

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Speaker 2: What up?

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Speaker 1: What up? My good brother man. I know this guy

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Speaker 1: a long time.

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Speaker 4: Man, I know this guy a long time, and I'm

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Speaker 4: not a fan of what you've done. Man, and what

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Speaker 4: you've been a part of and what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Solo, all of it. Man.

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Speaker 4: I remember meeting you, I think the first time. I

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Speaker 4: think I met you at the NBA Entertainment League.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we met on on on music.

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Speaker 1: We didn't meet on music. Yeah, we met at the

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Speaker 1: Entertainment League. But we need to bring that back, y'all. Man.

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Speaker 1: You know some homies have reached out to me over

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Speaker 1: the years, Bro, and I'm like, yeah, I got to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to make it worth it, dude. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it was so much fun. It's a lift. I

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Speaker 1: would fly out here just to play the game and

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Speaker 1: then go back home. Yep.

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Speaker 4: A lot a lot of people would have a lot

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Speaker 4: of people were winning town. Yeah, obviously you have it

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Speaker 4: in LA because a lot of people live in LA.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, now that that league, Man, I met you

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Speaker 4: in that league.

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Speaker 1: I met Michael B. Jordan in that league. I met

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about all my like guys that are still

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Speaker 4: my friends to this day. I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 4: Robbie Jones yep.

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Speaker 1: Oh, man, Bro, Like, it was so many I think

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Speaker 1: I make no.

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Speaker 4: I already know Kevin Hart, but he played in it too,

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Speaker 4: but like, yeah, and obviously I know Jamie, but man,

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Speaker 4: it was it was beef.

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Speaker 1: It was so much It was so much fun type

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Speaker 1: of basketball competitive though, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you play

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Speaker 1: when when Will Ferrell was in it? Yes? Bro, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't focus.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't focus when we played against Will Ferrell because

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Speaker 4: every time I looked at him, he gave me a

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Speaker 4: look and I start laughing.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, he can't be serious. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: like like like as entertainers, a lot of us have

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Speaker 1: athletic background, play ball in school, and so we always

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Speaker 1: have that edge. And you know, athletes want to be artists.

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Speaker 1: Writist love and respect athletes, and so it was like

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Speaker 1: it was It was just super competitive, man. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I would fly out here Sunday morning, play the game, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and fly back to it. Now. You want them cats

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Speaker 1: that would come in with the defel bag or the

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Speaker 1: people don't understand the type of competitiveness that even artists have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not always sure some of the

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Speaker 1: newer artists have that same competitive drive. Yeah sure, yeah, see,

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Speaker 1: I see when I came in the game, it was

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Speaker 1: so much traffic. Think about the early nineties. It was

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Speaker 1: so many groups out. You had to be competitive because

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Speaker 1: it was like, if I got one shot, regardless of

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Speaker 1: And so you think about one twelve Jagged Drew Hill,

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Speaker 4: You didn't even start naming the girl groups. You feel me, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it boded well for me being an athlete because

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Speaker 1: I came into the group with that edge, like, yo,

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Speaker 1: when you across from me, you're the competitor. Right. We

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Speaker 1: can go hang out all day afterwards, but when it's

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Speaker 1: time to get down, it's time to get down. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into that. Let's get into that. Man, take me

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning. Man, Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Atlanta, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: because everybody not really from there, it's a lot of

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Speaker 1: saying that, and I'm not saying that in a in

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Speaker 4: Atlanta's a hub and everybody's not actually born and raised

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Speaker 1: After a minute, we always say, after about seven or

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Speaker 1: eight years, they'll get your atl card. Okay, Oh so

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Speaker 1: there's a car. Yeah it's a okay, that's okay. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start asking, hey man, you got you got your

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Speaker 1: can they can then claim it. So yeah, man, take

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Speaker 1: take me back to little Q and how you pronounce

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Speaker 1: your full name? Bro it quns un. Look at me.

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Speaker 1: Good job, man, good job. Get me on when I said,

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Speaker 1: who boy, don't I know how to pronounce this? But

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna take my shock because I'm from

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Speaker 1: just like him. You did it, you did it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I take you back. I would say middle school. I

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Speaker 1: met Doran in a middle school honor choir where they

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Speaker 1: seventh grade I did started to go to the same

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Speaker 1: And so once we graduated from middle school went to

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Speaker 1: like do the harmony. Yeah yeah, you're kill or take

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Speaker 1: six commission man, listen, you know. And so Mike says

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Speaker 1: think about school. After school, I'm playing four sports all year, ball, basketball, track, tennis.

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Speaker 1: Right then, I'm Spanish Club, I'm SGA Challenge program. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing all of that right only child. Nah, I'm the

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Speaker 1: because yeah, I'm the youngest. My mama told me, like,

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Speaker 1: you never got to work as long as you make

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, she names you, Quinny. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Right right right right, he might he might wild out

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Speaker 1: and slap somebody. Listen to my college. It's only three

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Speaker 1: of us. My dad me and my son. So you

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Speaker 1: Quinn's junior. So no, my son is the junior. Okay,

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Speaker 1: because I have a middle name. My dad doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a middle name. My mom didn't have a middle name.

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Speaker 1: So it's Quinny's og. Okay, I'm senior, and then Q Jr.

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Speaker 1: Is the junior. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 4: I never because it's my mom was My mom was

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Speaker 4: black and Chinese, and then the Asian culture, a lot

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Speaker 4: of people don't have middle names. This is the first

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Speaker 4: time I've ever heard of a black man not having

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad is just Quinny's Parker. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 1: I'm Quinn's Daymon Parker. And then my son. You got

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Speaker 1: the full Deamon. Yeah yeah, you Damon too. Oh yeah yeah, yep.

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Speaker 1: You were supposed to sell all these R and B records,

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Speaker 1: hey man, Yeah all right. So and so when the

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Speaker 1: guys graduate, I finally one day, was just like, all right,

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Speaker 1: but how can I juggle this? How can I yo go?

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Speaker 1: Because they will rehearsed after school, but they've already graduated. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: So Slim is the oldest. The two guys, the older guys.

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Speaker 1: So now Slim is a senior. I'm a junior. Mike

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Speaker 1: and Durrant are sophomores, right, I auditioned get in the group.

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Speaker 1: So now the official Q Mike, Slim and Duran is

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Speaker 1: a group. Okay, they kicked me out the group because

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to decide do I go to rehearsal go

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna be a playboy? And so when it

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Speaker 1: gonna start. We're gonna fly all up to New York

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00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: after the summer. Then it's all right, well, we're gonna

428
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: wait till the holiday season. Then December come, we're gonna

429
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: start top of the year. So December comes around and

430
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: all I'm doing is telling my mom and dad, like

431
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: we got a record deal, like the record is is

432
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: for real? Like, man, it's for real. My dad looking

433
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: at me, like, hey, yo, what's really happening? Because you

434
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: haven't moved out the house. Nah, still stay with your parents.

435
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: Still stay with my parents. Still, So what's the Is

436
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: it any advance? Was it? No? Not at that time?

437
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, let me go back. Yes there was

438
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: an advance. I'm sorry it wasn't an advanced I think

439
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: by the time everybody got what they needed to get.

440
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: I think we all probably got like six thousand dollars.

441
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: You can't move out, No, no, you can't go can't

442
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: go too far with six thousand. Okay. So once I,

443
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, blessed my mom and did a few things.

444
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: You have to, just like I had to give something

445
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: to the church, had the tie church. Yeah, you're gonna

446
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: be out here the Devil's music. You better get it, man.

447
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: And so December goals. January, this is night now, this

448
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: is ninety ninety six. We're in ninety six. January February.

449
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Four days before my birthday, March March twentieth,

450
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: we fly from Atlanta to New York March twentieth of

451
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six. We go there, the five of us, Hugh, Mike, Slim,

452
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: Durant and Courtney. Happy belated birthday too, Thanks a lot, man,

453
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Yeah, we fly to New York and every

454
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: day we just going in every day and then in

455
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: August of ninety six, only U comes out. So it

456
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: took a year. Yeah during that time, is there any

457
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: more advanced that comes in? No, So you all we

458
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: get this per dim So you are getting some per

459
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: diemed on per dim to forty five a week, and

460
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: by we get it every Thursday and by Saturday we're

461
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: looking at each other like how much you got? It's

462
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: gone all left. It's gon because we're going down to

463
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: the village. Yeah, we're splurging. We ain't splurging too much,

464
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: but you do it, you little nineteen years old you know,

465
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: five is and were living in Manhattan apartment. About the

466
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: size of this, all five of us, he said August

467
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: August of ninety six. But the blessing in our story, man,

468
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: is the record came out the blocks. Oh fire, No

469
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't no games to be so it

470
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: was that record drop. We was able to now start

471
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: agetting twenty five hundred for a show. Y'all immediately got

472
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: on the road. Oh yeah, we ain't play. We immediately

473
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: because the record was just so the record was so crazy.

474
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: And then man, here comes our first obstacle because the

475
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: original is going crazy on the East Coast. So we're good. Yeah,

476
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: we're all up and down the East Coast. But then

477
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: he comes to remix remix and the West Coast grabs

478
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: a hold of that remix. I mean, like it was

479
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: gumment cheese going crazy, but at the time it's the

480
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: East Coast, West Coast ye, And so Puffy says to

481
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: the whole label, no bad boy artist goes to the

482
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: West Coast, and damn sure, don't go to LA. But

483
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: as you know, if the West Coast is spinning your record,

484
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: you gotta go. Yeah, and against his wishes, we had

485
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: to go chase our record. And I don't know, Jay,

486
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: if we hadn't made that decision, if our career would

487
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: have gone in the way that it that it went,

488
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: But man, we would have to come out here with

489
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: armed security.

490
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: It was real, dog and it's and it's so interesting

491
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 4: right because it obviously being in the R and B space,

492
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 4: it had nothing to do with y'all you have, but

493
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: it's also probably what was a covering over y'all too,

494
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 4: where it was just like a man, they ain't got nothing.

495
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: To do with this shit, man. But it was so

496
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: it was so heavy man that the communities started to

497
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: really pick on to that. Like we would be we

498
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: would be in the West Coast, man, and you know,

499
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: like I remember this one time, man, we would our

500
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: thing was we're flying to a city. We go to

501
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: the mall with the flyers. Yeah, try to get some

502
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: girls to pass out. The flyers get to the show.

503
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: And we were in I think Seattle, Washington one time.

504
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: Same setup, go to the mall. So it's two girls

505
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: following behind usna's twelve that it's twenty. That's forty. Now

506
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: it's like a full mob of people. When twelve was

507
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: in the mall, they got this hit. But then it

508
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: comes to hood dudes, man, by twenty of them jokers

509
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: showed up brou and we now like backed up into

510
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: the full core with the mall security barricading us because

511
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: they like west Side, we'll kill y'all, and we're just

512
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: looking like in Seattle, Yeah, we's goning to do with

513
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: la or New York. It was so it was real

514
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: like we we'd be performing and somebody get on the

515
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: mic and be like sugar night in the building. We'd

516
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: be like, we show's over.

517
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 4: It's crazy just for me right being in the Bay,

518
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 4: we just we were outsiders to it, like we understood it.

519
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 4: And obviously we were connected to it through Tupacas. Tupac

520
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 4: had his time in the Bay, But I don't think

521
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 4: it was like we didn't We didn't look at it

522
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: that but at least and I'm in high school at

523
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: the time, Yeah, man, don't. I don't remember nobody in

524
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 4: my class being like, we.

525
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: Don't listen to one twelve because one twelve is signed

526
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: up man. One twelve got jams, Nigga. Have you heard

527
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: this album?

528
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, because that that's something else, bro, I wanted

529
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: to tell you, and I mean, I'm sure you've heard

530
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 4: it if you haven't.

531
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: In my opinion, y'all self titled.

532
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 4: Debut album is one of the greatest R and B

533
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: albums topped a bottom.

534
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: In my opinion, especially as a debut.

535
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 4: Let's start with the interludes, which I know you know

536
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: y'all were known for. Y'all was like a thing with

537
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: one twelve bro y'all interludes were great songs, sexy you

538
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: Why Like bro y'all started that album off with now

539
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: that We're Done, which already is kind of wild because

540
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: it kind of because of the title, you would think

541
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 4: it would be at the end of the song, I mean,

542
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 4: at the end of the album, but.

543
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: Y'all kicked the album off with that.

544
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: What is the mindset when y'all going in and y'all

545
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: sitting down with the label, y'all sitting down with the producers,

546
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 4: y'all sitting down with Puff, and y'all have this conversation

547
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: of like, all right, this is what this this is

548
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: about to sound like and feel like do you remember

549
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: that time?

550
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't think we even knew at the time, Jay,

551
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: because all we wanted to do was just sing. Okay

552
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: that we didn't We didn't we didn't fully understand the business,

553
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: We didn't really know the nuances. We just wanted to

554
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: get in the studio, get around the piano and just

555
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: croon and just sing and perform like that was it.

556
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: And so when you think about that first album, that's

557
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: just what it was. It's nineteen songs on an album.

558
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: But man, we probably recorded back then. You know, we

559
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: would you do sixty seventy songs. We recorded so many songs,

560
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: but we had we had people like Tim and Bob

561
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: holding our hand. We had Arnold Hennings, we had Skeeter

562
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 1: and Stevie j And then we had access to all

563
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: the hit men at the time, so we were covered immensely.

564
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: But a lot of what we did were the ideas

565
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: of ours because again, you know, I'm gonna say, man,

566
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: we always had the cheat hold with in Dern Jones

567
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: Man because as a musician in the that's why I

568
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: think Jodasy they had the cheat hold because you got

569
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: Davante one twelve had Duran Man who who the intricacies

570
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: of our harmonies would be so crazy because he would

571
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: play him first and be like, cute is your note?

572
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: Might this your note? Yeah? He would play the chords

573
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: and we would be like, but once we put it together.

574
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: That's why nobody couldn't really duplicate our harmonies because.

575
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: You had a real life deep in the group from

576
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: fire Harveys run, Yes, this is how this is not

577
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: how I played it.

578
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: That was and I never even met it, know that

579
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: one of us seen it. He said, he pissed if

580
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 1: he is and I listen, I hope you see this.

581
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Bro, you a musical genius.

582
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you are absolute musical genius. I would love for

583
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 4: you to come sit down on this chair and have

584
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: this conversation, bro, because what one twelve did to music,

585
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: in my opinion, was a very special thing. It really

586
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: showed that you can make because because it was a turn,

587
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: it was turn happening, but y'all was still making love songs, yeah,

588
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: in a time where it was starting to get real

589
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: aggressive m And that's why I asked.

590
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know if y'all was purposely sticking to that,

591
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: sticking to that script of like, no, we're about to

592
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: make these love songs, and y'all were. It was boys

593
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: to men, yeah, but it was still Jodas absolutely, and

594
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: I think that was That's what it was a mixture.

595
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: That's what helped us cut through because we were, like

596
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: you said, we were buttoned up enough to go home

597
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 1: on the Mama, but it was super hip hop, but

598
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: we would still like, now y'all got some mister chicks,

599
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: and and that's the day. It's the brilliance of puff

600
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: Man because I believe had we just stuck to what

601
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: we wanted to do. We would have just been some

602
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: balladeers all the way across the board. And how would

603
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: that have made us different from Jagged Edge? How would

604
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: that have made us different from Drew Hill and Next?

605
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that would always separate us

606
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: from those groups that were in our era is the

607
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: hip hop element that Puff brought. Puff used to always

608
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: tell us, if I can't play it in the tunnel,

609
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: it won't be a single. He didn't fully understand the

610
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: R and B nuances of harmony and structure and all

611
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: of this, and we had no clue about hip hop. Again,

612
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: we forore church boys. Damn. They never listened to rap

613
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: unless it was j I Need love or like some

614
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: you know some smooth raps. All y'all is from church, Oh,

615
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean not just church, but like all your Kojing

616
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: so I'm Kojak Duran Methodist, Slim was none denominational like yeah,

617
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: and that Baptist Yeah so Kojic Baptist Methodists and non

618
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: denomination but again all just church boys who Mama wouldn't

619
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: let us really listen to secular music. And so when

620
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: we signed that Bad Boy, we have no clue about

621
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: why it got a hit so hard? Why it gotta beat?

622
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: Why why the snare so hard? And why? But the

623
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: brilliance of Puffy was like, I'm gonna give y'all these

624
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: hard banging hip hop beats, tracks, compositions, and then y'all

625
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: just figured it out. And so Jay, if you can imagine,

626
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: he would give us a four minute song of an

627
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: eight barn loop, right, So imagine that for four minutes.

628
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: That's all all you got four minutes. And we would

629
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: have to use our own instruments to make it musical.

630
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: That's all you got to ooh, all the backgrounds and

631
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: all that because we had to. We had to be

632
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: creative and make it comfortable for us, because we didn't

633
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: just like just the hip hop stuff. We had to

634
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: make it musical. So Duran would put angelic, churchy chords

635
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: and stuff on top of the and that I believe

636
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: is what ushered in this whole hip hop and R

637
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: and B. And so when you talk about the definition

638
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: of hip hop and R and B, you gotta mention

639
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: bad Boy, but you got to mention one twelve because

640
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: it don't get no more grimier than white lines of

641
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: It's over now and were putting the bridge and all

642
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: these harmony and all this stuff, and the way we

643
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: was interchanging the lead parts and he coming off the

644
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: tail end of this guy. He passing to this guy

645
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: Alleupe and this guy two part harmony, then four part harmony. Man,

646
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: it really didn't make sense, but it made all sense. Right.

647
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: It's almost like the Jodasy come and talk to me.

648
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 4: To me, you guys are the continuation of that.

649
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: That's that's dope.

650
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, but it was still clean in the

651
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 4: style of voice to men. So to me when I

652
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 4: saw y'all yet, it was just always like, oh, they're both.

653
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh, yeah, what side of they on? Yeah,

654
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: And you know a lot of us had to choose.

655
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: That was intentional, man, because when you look at the

656
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: nuances of one twelve one twelve was it was almost

657
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: designed to be a supergroup. We wasn't going to have

658
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: one somebody and then the rest of them. Yeah, in

659
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: order for you to be in the group, you had

660
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: to be able to stand on your own anyway. Yea

661
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: all four y'all can say, right, And so when you

662
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: think about the nuances, you got Q Parker, who is smooth,

663
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: real melodic. You got Slim who has the distinct divorce.

664
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: Out of the group. You got Duran who could just

665
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: do damn anything, and then you got Mike, who got

666
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: this heavy soul. And so within those four elements is

667
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: Jodosy Poister Men after Seven the Whispers Temptations. It was

668
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: nothing we could not do because we all had different elements.

669
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: But when you brought those ships together, bruh, not special,

670
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: it's special. And then y'all, I mean, y'all come out

671
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: the gate. What's the first album? Double plating them? Yeah,

672
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: out of the gate on the gate. So when that happens,

673
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: starting to get some bridge yet, yeah, man, yeah, yeah, yeah.

674
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: We had the pleasure of that first album going on

675
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: tour with Keep Sweating, Bone Thuss and Harmony to go

676
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: out with Sweat went on that tour first album, and

677
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: then the end of the first album, once we got

678
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: around the Cupid Come See Me and Cupid. We toured

679
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: with the Oddsley.

680
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: Brothers, Come See Being Cupid, Bro after Only You Yeah,

681
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: oh yeah, y'all whooping, y'all whooping ass man. I mean

682
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: we were out of three sixty five days out of

683
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: the year, was probably on the road three hundred and

684
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: I'm talking about how are you at this point at

685
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 4: this time on twenty you just turned twenty, just turned twenty,

686
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 4: and I'm talking about from.

687
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: The root of to the two to Jay. We're doing

688
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: the backyard barbecue. We're doing Madison's guare garden too. I

689
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: tell the next all the time. Tulo on Mississippi. Come on,

690
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: you know r S you've been Yeah, because I didn't.

691
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: I didn't know what tupolo was for a long time.

692
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: I was like, yep, yep, they love r and b

693
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: out here man. We was doing it. We weren't turning

694
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: down nothing. Brouh. What's the first thing you buy? First thing?

695
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: And you felt like you was like, okay, I got

696
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: to get that for myself or just period spirit. My

697
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: mom wanted a fur coat. Yeah, I had to buy

698
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: my mother a fur coat. You got one in New

699
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: York when I got my mama her fir curt I

700
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 1: got out of New York. Out of New York. Yeah, yeah,

701
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: you know New York had all them the leathers, crazy,

702
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: the ringos and all. That's the first thing. She's like, baby,

703
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: give me a firs coat. Yeah she wore at the church. Yeah,

704
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah, okay, ye, my love my son in one twelve. Yeah,

705
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: and then I think after that, the next biggest purchase. Again,

706
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: we're still young, right with twenty I'm twenty, Mike and

707
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: Mike and Doranta nineteen Slim twenty one. Okay, we go

708
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: to BMW man and buy these four, these three twenty

709
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: eight drop top. Everybody about about one. I had all

710
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: the same color, different colors. I had black, Slim had red,

711
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: Duran had white, and Mike had Cranberry. So, man, we

712
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: would go through the au Center like spell Clark because

713
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: y'all still college. Oh my god, yeah, what they called

714
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: the c au right, that's what the AU center? Au Center?

715
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: Yeah you said, okay, yep, the c AU is Clark.

716
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay a u C.

717
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: I ain't want to know. Damn college out and I

718
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: tell you, man. And it was just we were just

719
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: so proud because being from Atlanta was signing to a

720
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: New York based record company. People were trying to get confused,

721
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: like we were from New York. We were just like, nah, man,

722
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: we just no, We're from the Ay. So every time

723
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: we got an opportunity, and we lived in New York

724
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: for four years. So the first two.

725
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 6: Albums we lived in New York Okay, did y'all ever

726
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 6: have a did y'all have the moment with.

727
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: Some of the people who passed up on y'all where

728
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 1: they're like, damn, man, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't

729
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: really see it. I don't think they were ever verbalized that.

730
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: But as we were achieving the things that we were achieving,

731
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure they had one of those moments. And maybe

732
00:40:53,800 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: not because Jermaine ended up signing Jacket. Yes, they yeah,

733
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: legends and you used to be in a group with

734
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: one of them, just even and we go still one

735
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: of my best friends to this day. And then the

736
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: face started to have, you know, Tip and all the

737
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: things that they did. Dallas was doing TLC and Usher

738
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: and Monica. So I'm sure.

739
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 4: Everybody still having success, and it's still it's something about

740
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 4: seeing somebody.

741
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: Like n when you let get away.

742
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 4: I got a couple of those, not that I passed

743
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 4: on really, but just that I for me and maybe

744
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 4: you didn't even know this, and when as your auditioning

745
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: for people. For me, it was one of those things

746
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: where I knew I didn't have the time. And I've

747
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: I've always prided myself on never getting in the way.

748
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: I never want to get in the way of anybody's

749
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: blessings or their destiny.

750
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: And that's quite just because I need to be a

751
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: part of it.

752
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: And there are a lot of people in this business

753
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: that are professional getting the get your.

754
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: Ass out away.

755
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 4: I was very I've always been very mindful of that,

756
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: and I'm telling you, listen, I won't I wait to

757
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: their episodes where we can have the conversation, but where

758
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 4: I've had I've told a couple artists, like I know

759
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 4: you're going to be a superstar. I can't give you

760
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 4: what you need. I don't have the bandwidth, I don't

761
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: have the time. I got some other shit that I'm doing.

762
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: But I will help whatever capacity that I can. But

763
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 4: I can't come on and do York project with you

764
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 4: because I knew I would have been in a way

765
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: and I never want to be that guy. I never

766
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 4: wanted to be a conversation where somebody says, yeah, man, man,

767
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: I wasted two years with Jay Valentine.

768
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: No no, no, no.

769
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will let you out your deal, whatever it is,

770
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 4: because I just never want to be in the way

771
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 4: of somebody's blessings.

772
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's why I've been blessed. Yeah,

773
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's dope to be honest with

774
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: honest because you literally have their life, aspirations, their dreams

775
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: in your hands. They're looking to you two make away

776
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: absolutely in a sense. And so the fact that you're

777
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: able to be honest on the front end, I think

778
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: that's man. That's admirable man, and that's that's dope.

779
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: That's DMX will say, stop being greedy, Stop being greedy, man.

780
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: We can't have everything. Yes, you know what I'm saying.

781
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: We can't. It's just it's how the world works. Let's

782
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: get it too. Now. Second album, Yeah, are y'all having.

783
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: Any form of sophomore jinks? Have you any of those

784
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 4: things entering your mind? Or what's the process now?

785
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: Because you know, you know, if you look at the

786
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: two covers of the album, he's like, all these niggas

787
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: got some money. Now they grew up a little bit.

788
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: You can see it, see the transition those two album covers, like,

789
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: oh rich niggas Now Yeah, second album Again, we're still

790
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: in the mindset that we just want to sing. Yeah,

791
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: we want to be the best and we want to

792
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: we want to let Drew Hill and Jagged is no

793
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: they can't.

794
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 4: See us because everybody now they now that they had

795
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: their albums out there now too.

796
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, So now the competition is fully kicking

797
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: out petition because when y'all came out first, y'all were

798
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: the first, like of y'all core yeah time right of

799
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: y'all era Yes one twelve, and Drew was kind of

800
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: like around the same time a couple of months. The

801
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: Jagged came the next year, and I think NICKT came

802
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: in ninety seven to two, okay, But at that time

803
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: we were like, y'all saw them, Oh yeah, oh no,

804
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: we see you. Yeah, and we're now doing shows together.

805
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, yeah, better come with it. So are

806
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: y'all having some five rbat moments? Is it the you know?

807
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: Okay they singing that way? Okay, Oh yeah, I gotta

808
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: take my shirt off. Oh we got a slide. We're

809
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: standing there the wing looking like okay, all right.

810
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

811
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: But man, the one thing we always knew, Jay was

812
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: you may get us in some areas that we haven't

813
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: yet developed at that time. But the one thing you

814
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: was not gonna do, Bro, You was not gonna out

815
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: sing us. That's what you wasn't gonna do, and we

816
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: let either one of us loose on whoever you got.

817
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: How are they backstages? Was everybody cool or did y'all

818
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 4: have some tension? Was it a little bit tension? I

819
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 4: don't think it was real, real tension. It was just competition. Yeah,

820
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: you know, the industry tried to make this one twelve

821
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 4: jag of as thing.

822
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: But but then was really y'all always really Yeah, that's

823
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: a whole nother thing that people didn't realize. Yeah, you know,

824
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: anything that looks similar has similar ecstatics, they want to

825
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: pit it against each other. But yeah, nah, man, backstages

826
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: were always cool. But we just knew when the lights

827
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: came on you competition. Yeah, and we're gonna do our

828
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: best to try to shit on you as I know

829
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna do for us as well. But the second

830
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: album was just were still in the mindset of we

831
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: just want to sing, we want to make good music.

832
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: Now we got the luxury of all the hit men

833
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: now at our disposal, Duran and I and the group,

834
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: we're still creating our own stuff. And so we come

835
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: out the box with Leslie Brathwaite, the great mixing engineer.

836
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: He comes up with this this Luther Simple and we

837
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: come out the box with love Me with Mace. Then

838
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: it didn't really do It didn't really like like because

839
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: we're coming off of Cupid, which was the last one

840
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: off of album number one, Love Me comes it has

841
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: marginal success. It ain't just like damn. It might have

842
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: been residue from the from the last album, right. But

843
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: then bro, we came anywhere, Yep, anywhere. It was like,

844
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: now that's the niggas right there, Yes, that's the one.

845
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: So what was the what was the little little Zaye?

846
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: Where did that come from? That was Kevin? Okay, Kevin

847
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: had discovered Lousane and obviously now he's the part of

848
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: the family. And so in the way that Puffy always

849
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: did Bad Boy, which was if one artist is already

850
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: you're established, introduced the new one. And so with Kevin's family,

851
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: Louisane was the new guy. And so now use one

852
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: twelve to introduce Louisane.

853
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Zaye's star. No, it's crap. When he popped

854
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 4: on the screen, I'm like.

855
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: The man, whoever the little nigga? Is he cooking? He too? Yeah,

856
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: cooking cooking, speaking of like the y'all in hip hop,

857
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: U though, right, because I want to make sure we

858
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: don't graze over there too, because y'all had a real

859
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: connection with Biggie. Absolutely yeah, man, Like a lot of

860
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: people can't say that as far as you know, because

861
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: his life was cut short. But he was such a

862
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: great artist and y'all would like his R and B

863
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: go to. Anytime I'm talking about Big, I like to

864
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: take my time because he was like the big brother

865
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: of the the label, and by us being the like

866
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: the little brothers, we were the younger, we were the

867
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: youngins on the label. Everybody just took a liking to

868
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: us and like a protective type of angle when it

869
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: came to two one twelve. But Big specifically, man, it's

870
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: like if he didn't have no brothers, we became his

871
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: brothers because as new artists, we ain't got a lot

872
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: of money. I just told you we had per dim.

873
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: Anytime we went in the studio, he would be like,

874
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 1: did y'all eat? Hm? He go one hundred dollars every time,

875
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: give all us pill all us one hundred dollars and

876
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: at the time, one hundred dollars to an eighteen year old.

877
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: It's just like Nigga, we got it something as simple

878
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: as he would be in Studio A, we'd be in

879
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: Studio C, in the in the midi room. And by

880
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: us being from Atlanta, sometimes we want to call our

881
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: girlfriends or our moms or whatever. And his studio session

882
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: would have the open line, right because whatever his budget was,

883
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: the open line, open budget. We didn't have that. So

884
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: he'll be like, if y'all ever want to make a

885
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: phone call, man, so we'll be in a phone bowning

886
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: for hours on his Like that's what big brothers do.

887
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: I got you, Like, we're from Atlanta, so we didn't

888
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: have like big coats. And so when we moved to Atlanta,

889
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: I mean we moved to New York in ninety six.

890
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: That's when New York has this ninety six blizzard. Blizzard

891
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: of ninety six, I mean snow up here. We never

892
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: seen that much snow. But we come up here with

893
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: no coats. So Big would be like, YO, take them

894
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: down to the village and get them some coats, get

895
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: them some boots. Stuff like that. Man that with all

896
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: that that I remember most that always stays with me,

897
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: Like even after he rhymed on only you, I'll never

898
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: forget this funny story. We was in the studio were

899
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: finishing the recording the rest of the album, and Bigg

900
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: is in the kitchen, in the kitchen that area. So

901
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Kevin says, hey, Big is out in the in the

902
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: in the lobby, go say thank you for for blazing

903
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: and blessing the song, because I'm in the booth. Mike

904
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: is over here or Druan. So maybe Mike went out

905
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: first and says Big Man, thank you appreciate that. Da

906
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: da da, Big sins, I bet shortly after that Slim

907
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: finishes with he Slim goes out there. By the time

908
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: I go out there, Big, it's like, hey, y'all, I'm

909
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: not sitting through all this. Get all y'all out here

910
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: one time, say what y'all got to say, and let's

911
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: keep it moving. Like he could just do stuff like that,

912
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: like yeah, I'm not rocking with the four things, nah man.

913
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 1: Or even like Puff would be like on our next

914
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: like yo, it gotta sound better. They gotta do do this.

915
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: Dude is trying to micromanagers, and Big would come in

916
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: the studio and be like, yo, Puff, you sign these

917
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: boys because they dope right, leave them alone, let them

918
00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: let them cook, like just stuff like that. Man that yeah,

919
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: those are the moments that I hold real, real close.

920
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and I mean you got classic Bro,

921
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 4: Sky's the limit Bro.

922
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my joint. Y'all who knew as a teenager,

923
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, like I tell my son, and I tell

924
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: and I will eventually tell my grandchildren. Your dad or

925
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: your grandfather will always be mentioned when you talk about

926
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: the legacy of hip hop and R and B. Yeah,

927
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: because you can't tell the story without mentioning the reign

928
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: of bad Boy. And you can't tell the bad Boy

929
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: story without talking about Biggie nor one twelve. And so

930
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: in any museum where they talk about the legacy of

931
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: hip hop and R and B, your dad and your

932
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: granddad gonna always be a part of it. Dude. That's special, man,

933
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: because we didn't get in it for that. We got

934
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: in it because we just wanted to sing. Yeah, And

935
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: I don't because at that time, Jay, it's a group

936
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: of every corn like a liquor store. But for us

937
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: to be identified impact the culture, impact the history of

938
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: the industry, the way that we have to have the

939
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: catalog that we have from just these four boys man

940
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: in our hood and now looked at as legacy artists, icons, ogs.

941
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: You know, I'm officially the unk now to the new man.

942
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it is what it is, like, I just

943
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: celebrated fifty years. Yeah, congratulation, that's a real milestone.

944
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man.

945
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: So but again, to talk about thirty years in this

946
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: game and have the catalog the records that have impacted

947
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: culture and impacted relationships and lives, and I couldn't have

948
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: scripted it any better.

949
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 4: Man, Did you ever have moments where you've had to,

950
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 4: in a sense pinch yourself as y'all going through it,

951
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 4: and you know, and you you're going around the world,

952
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 4: you're traveling, everybody singing your songs in all these places.

953
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 4: Did you ever have those moments man, where you're just like, damn,

954
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 4: this is this is crazy.

955
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: A couple of times, man, the Grammys on stage with

956
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: Sting Yeah, yeah, like yeah, traveling all across the world

957
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: and there being a huge language barrier, but they can sing.

958
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: You sing your songs me boy from the hood that

959
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm from, right global man who was supposed to go

960
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: to Clemson. Yeah.

961
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 4: Here's the other question though, that you know, I think

962
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 4: you're probably the first person I've asked this while you're

963
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 4: waiting for that first album for a single to drop.

964
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 4: Are you like, man, I should have just went to

965
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 4: ask to Clemson.

966
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: Absolutely, there were many times I thought that. But the

967
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: beauty of it was the time the register had already passed,

968
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: and so now my scholarship is void. Yeah, but had

969
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: there been a wait for me to get it back,

970
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: that weight probably would have had me because at the time,

971
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: my parents are looking at me like, you gotta do something,

972
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: get up, get out and get something. Goodie, Mom, you

973
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: gotta get up, you gotta do something. And again, I

974
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: never had a job, right, and so my especially my dad,

975
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: is looking at me like, man, you're not gonna be sorry,

976
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be lazy. You're not just gonna be

977
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: in this house. And you ain't contributing. You ain't. You

978
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: don't have a job. So this record didn't mean nothing

979
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: to them. No, no, because at the time, at the time,

980
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: they know I'm going to rehearsal every day, they know

981
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm staying out all time the night, they know I'm performing.

982
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: They know this stuff, but they don't have no point

983
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: of reference. This ain't something that just happens where we're from, right,

984
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: So until it's a thing, I think my parents probably

985
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: didn't realize it was a thing until they actually heard

986
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: the song on the radio in Atlanta on P one

987
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: O three or somewhere. Yeah, moving to New York, it's

988
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: still just like, all right, you're in New York, y'all,

989
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: better take care of my baby. Don't letting that happen

990
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: to him. Oh that is great, bro. Like y'all, y'all,

991
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: y'all path and.

992
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 4: Story, it's it's so relatable to you know what this

993
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 4: music business was, right, and the experiences of having to

994
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 4: move out of the nest, just going somewhere with the homies,

995
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 4: and it's you know what I mean, like when we

996
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 4: interview k C. Yeah, it's very similar, right, like you

997
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 4: know for homies, brothers, loved ones who just hop in

998
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 4: a car, yeah and get down there, you know what

999
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 4: I mean. And you have you have these moments where

1000
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 4: you're trying to figure out if it's worth it, and

1001
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: then when you actually reach that point where it is

1002
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: it's worth it, and one thing leads to the next. Y'all,

1003
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 4: story though is crazy because once only you comes out,

1004
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 4: it was non stop. Usually it's like, oh, yeah.

1005
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 1: Did we we had to figure out this this wasn't

1006
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: really going where it was supposed to. It just kept

1007
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: it was continuous for y'all kept going up.

1008
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, like y'all got applying to the records, Grammys, all

1009
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 4: of this shit. Man, Like, let's get back to the

1010
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 4: hits you get anywhere, y'all get back it's back cracking,

1011
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 4: and then on it and then y'all went through it.

1012
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 4: Y'all went through an album that wasn't as successful. How

1013
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 4: did that transition happen for y'all? And how did y'all

1014
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 4: be cause it y'all popped back after that?

1015
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So after After Anywhere Crazy, then we come with

1016
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: Love You Like I Did, which was just a dope

1017
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: R and B record, but it was the third single

1018
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: on the project, and I just think the label just

1019
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: was ready for us to go back in and so

1020
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: Love You Like I Did, although it has become a

1021
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: fan favorite, didn't really get the radio push in the

1022
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: market and the promotion then the other records of that,

1023
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: especially because Love of Me had been front loaded with

1024
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: like that was the first single, and then when it

1025
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: had marginal success, Anywhere just kind of brought everything back

1026
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: to life. And at that point, now the budget is

1027
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: kind of like we may have a phase one, but

1028
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna have to just show us that it needs

1029
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: a phase two and phase three. And by the time

1030
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: it got through phase one, it was just kind of like,

1031
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: let's go back in. But as they say in the

1032
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: old church my mind, here comes Part three. Okay, Part three.

1033
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: We decided, hey, we want to do something different. We

1034
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: want to just flip the whole script. And if you really,

1035
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: if you remember One twelve prior to Part three, we

1036
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: were just balladeers. We would croon us. We weren't really dancing,

1037
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: didn't have choreography or any of that. Part three we

1038
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: decided that we're gonna put one twelve on his feet

1039
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: because we were fans of New Audition. We were fans

1040
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: of all the groups that had choreography and stuff. Yeah,

1041
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: And during the Part three recording, we went to Nashville

1042
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: to get away from family and wives and children and

1043
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: all that, just to go and focus. Went to Nashville

1044
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: for three months, and for those three months, man, we

1045
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: just went in the lab, just creating, creating, creating, creating.

1046
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: We come up with probably half of the album and

1047
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: then go to New York and play it for Puffy.

1048
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: He loves it. Then he starts to incorporate the hit men,

1049
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: and then that kind of became the formula. We would

1050
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: come up with forty percent of the wreck of the

1051
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: album and then he would add his because now Tim

1052
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: and Bob is not Now Tim and Bob is not

1053
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: in the picture any longer, okay. And I think that

1054
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: was a group's decision because at that point we wanted

1055
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: to now really fly solo. We felt like we had

1056
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: all the components with Duran being our in hospital do sir,

1057
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: we all writers and creators, and then we could just

1058
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: kind of like get people to kind of come in

1059
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: and sporadically to just add some sauce to it. And

1060
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: so we go back to Atlanta and for six months, man,

1061
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: we turned our two left feet that we all had

1062
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: into being able to move. Who's the Koreaki for y'all heart,

1063
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: and this time it is Divine Stevens, Divine, the great Man,

1064
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,959
Speaker 1: the Divine al jamal Ah.

1065
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, my god.

1066
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, big shout out to all the crew man and

1067
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: man when I say, they whipped us in shape. And

1068
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: so we come out of the box. It's over now.

1069
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: It don't get no no grimy or than in white

1070
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: lines and Durran produced that. Yeah, and now y'all have

1071
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: another writing partner with y'all. Yeah, I got poo Be. Yeah,

1072
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: well no, I'm gonna go back. Pool Bear came around

1073
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: album too, Okay, Okay, he was he he was introduced

1074
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: to us because he's caught. He's cousin, Okay, who was

1075
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: also in the group It's Atlanta, So he co wrote

1076
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: with us anywhere right right right, A couple of a

1077
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: couple of other records on Room one twelve. Then we

1078
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: get to Part three. We do probably sixty of Part three.

1079
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: So of the records that were released on Part three

1080
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: from It's Over Now, dance with Me over Now, like

1081
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: a lot of those records. And Cream is not on

1082
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: that album. Yeah that yes, yeah, but we didn't produce

1083
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: Peaches and Cream. We just wroteaches and Creams. And Jason

1084
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: Poobat co wrote on Peaches and Cream along with Al Jamal.

1085
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: And so we come, we go, we go back to

1086
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: New York. And then when we were in New York,

1087
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: we already have danced when we got It's Over Now.

1088
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: We got Player, we got sweet Love, we got all

1089
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: all those are what we created in Now. Puffy comes

1090
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: and says, hey, now let me throw my sauce on that,

1091
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: and Mario came with the track to Peaches and Cream,

1092
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: just bananas, Bananas. We go in the studio, write it,

1093
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: Puff comes in and says, yo's peaches and cream? Is

1094
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: that even hot? He said it just like that, Yo,

1095
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: is that even hot? We're like, Yo, get out, let

1096
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: us finish and man it just we wanted to keep.

1097
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: We were always trying to solidify our connection to Atlanta, Georgia, Peach,

1098
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: right and man. So we come out with It's Over Now,

1099
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 1: our very first number one Billboard number one, crazy come

1100
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: from Peach, from It's Over Now to Peaches and Cream

1101
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: out of here, stupid, stupid, then follow that with Dance

1102
01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: for Me. Did y'all ever do your own headline?

1103
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 5: Three?

1104
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: No? I was wondering about that because I'm like, I

1105
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: don't remember a one twelve tour. Nope. Why was that? Man?

1106
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: Y'all just always jumped on, always supported with those type

1107
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: of record sales. Though like the first two first two

1108
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: albums both double platinum, right, first, second and third all

1109
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: double platinum albums. Wow, never headlined the tour, never headlined

1110
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: the tour, all them here records that is DoD Yeah,

1111
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm not like I didn't realize that until we're talking

1112
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: about it right now. I'm like, because you know, I

1113
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: always know when tours are going out. I never remember

1114
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: there being a one to twelve tour. What's crazy, Jay

1115
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: is I don't think that era, Chris, think about it.

1116
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: None of us headlined the tour doing that from our era,

1117
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: not us, not Jagged Drew Here next Wow Silk, none

1118
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: of us. A lot of records being sold too, none

1119
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: of us headlined mm hmm crazy right with all those records. Yah,

1120
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: it's crazy now that you say that.

1121
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 4: And then y'all then y'all go through the phase of

1122
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 4: people sampling y'all records. The fact that turning me on

1123
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 4: is literally yeah, all my love word for word.

1124
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: All my love, like like shout out to Kevin Flip

1125
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: was so crazy, dance Hall Flip to turn me on

1126
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: of all my love is insane. And you know that's

1127
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: That's the thing that I I'm always trying to teach

1128
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: mine Like I do a summer camp, a music and

1129
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: entertainment summer camp. This would be my tenth year doing it.

1130
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: Thanks man. But I'm always you know, through my nation,

1131
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm always trying to tell the young the next generation.

1132
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: Ownership is the name of the game. Right, because you

1133
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: know a record like turn me on Global Global, right,

1134
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: but we get the publishing from it because of him sampling,

1135
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: interpolating our song, right. And when you just do the

1136
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: money trail right, which then eventually turns into Chris Brown's record,

1137
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: questions that that not becomes air a third life. So

1138
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: man again, Quinnis Parker from the Hood, Yeah, yeah, theymon

1139
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: yeah the demon exactly. Demon. So you say, have I

1140
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: pitched myself? I'm constantly doing that, man, because I couldn't

1141
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: have scripted. Are you? Are you four people sampling your music?

1142
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: Are you?

1143
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 5: Like?

1144
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: How are you with that? Simple a way? Because everybody's different, right,

1145
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: simple away anytime. And you're so right because one of

1146
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 1: the objectives now that I know the game, the way

1147
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: that I know it, is to get to a point

1148
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: to have records that starts, to get second and third

1149
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: and fourth lives. Right. You want to create music that

1150
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: a whole new generation can discover and find some value

1151
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: in what you created, to be a part of what

1152
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: they create. And so here we are celebrating thirty years

1153
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: and man, I'm getting emails almost every day, approve this,

1154
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: Approve this, and I prove all of them because you

1155
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: just know, Oh yeah, go have ad it, go go,

1156
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: I prove all of them, man, because especially nowadays with

1157
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: stuff going viral and you just never know. A seventeen

1158
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,479
Speaker 1: year old can discover Cupid, which is thirty years old.

1159
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 4: For sure, I'm wondering when that's gonna happen. Somebody got

1160
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 4: somebody got it, somebody got the cubit for sure. I'm

1161
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 4: somebody gonna watch this and be.

1162
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: Like you said, you said, he go go clear, I

1163
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: clear everything.

1164
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 4: How do you go into writing? Keisha Coles? I should

1165
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 4: have cheated?

1166
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 1: So uh. There was a time where Duran and I

1167
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: became a production writing combo, and Duran man was getting

1168
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: sought after man by everybody, by everybody. Man. He had

1169
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: created a catalog that was just craziest. So he started

1170
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: getting these opportunities to record for produced for Pink and

1171
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: in Sync and everybody. And I had become a studio

1172
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: rap just like him too, and so on a random day,

1173
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: I would just be like, Yo, let's go, let's get

1174
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: some studio time. He had a studio at his house.

1175
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: I had one in my house. Let's just go and

1176
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: just start creating records and we recorded. Should have cheated

1177
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: on Nivia first, Okay, we knew it was a smash,

1178
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 1: but for whatever record, for whatever reason, man, she didn't

1179
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: take the record or and then Manny comes to Duran

1180
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, Yo, we're closing up on this Keisha

1181
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: Coles album, and let me know what you got. We

1182
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: played on the record. He loved it. What's crazy about

1183
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: the whole journey was I think they went with the

1184
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: heavy names first. They went with the Kanye and the

1185
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: Alicia Keys jointed, and they with somebody else, and we

1186
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: just kept telling many like, Yo, this the record, this

1187
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: the record, this the record they finally got to. Should

1188
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: have cheated, man, and it opened her up to come

1189
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: back with love and all that other stuff. Man. But yeah,

1190
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: Dorn and I we just became studio rats man, and

1191
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: so we just started writing and producing for different artists.

1192
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 4: At that point, where was it already starting to tell

1193
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 4: off with the group.

1194
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because we were all now at that time

1195
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: starting to explore individuality. And this time it's like this

1196
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: is where did it the album come out? Oh one

1197
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: maybe or something like that.

1198
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 4: What did I mean, Keisha's album, nou Keisha's album maybe

1199
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 4: like oh five five or something like that.

1200
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think yeah, five is a hot and wet

1201
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: album for one twelve.

1202
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 5: That.

1203
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, at that point, it's starting to the boats are

1204
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: starting to loose a little bit. And so now we're

1205
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: giving each other time to explore your individuality. And one

1206
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: of the things that Duran and I wanted to do

1207
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: was just create. If you don't mind me asking s,

1208
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: where does it start to break down? I think, man,

1209
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: So there's certain things that are inevitable when you're dealing

1210
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: with a group, especially when you start so young, because

1211
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: when you start young, everyone has a mindset of togetherness,

1212
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: unity all. It's kind of like a week we want

1213
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: the record deal, we want success, we want blah blah

1214
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Because at the time, there are no

1215
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 1: other things that are priority. Everybody's still in school, nobody

1216
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: has children, nobody's married, so the requirements or the demands

1217
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: of the group are always the priority. But then once

1218
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: you start getting a little older, money started to be

1219
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: made different priorities. Cats start having children, cats get married.

1220
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: Now that we have to be negotiated almost because we

1221
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: can't just go to the studio and be there all night,

1222
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: because somebody got to get up and go take the

1223
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: school drop off. Somebody got to now considered family and married.

1224
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: Somebody got to now consider other things that might be

1225
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: a priority, and I think, man we didn't manage the

1226
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: I think we didn't manage that realization as best as

1227
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: we were to grow up. Yeah, that we were going

1228
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: to grow up, and there's there's still a way to

1229
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: still get to the finish line, even though you may

1230
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: only push twenty percent, he may push forty percent, but

1231
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're still gonna get

1232
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 1: to one hundred percent. So I think we didn't manage

1233
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: that well. I think we kept the mindset as we

1234
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: even as we were getting older, that everybody should contribute equally,

1235
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: because every up until that point, everybody carried their own

1236
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: load and did it well. Five that's how the group

1237
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: was always. The moment we started to kind of separate,

1238
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: that's when you start to hear the records weren't as

1239
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: as solid, the unity wasn't as as put together as

1240
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: it as it always was. And now we're older, different priorities,

1241
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: different living in different places now, so just hey, we

1242
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: just get together ain't so easy no more. And so

1243
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: I just think as a group, we didn't manage the

1244
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: growing up part as best as we could have Yeah, no,

1245
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it, and it's somebody you know.

1246
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: It's something I wanted to just put a light on

1247
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: because people don't always understand and people always have have

1248
01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: a that question. Are there I want to say they

1249
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't even say they have that question more so

1250
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: than they have an opinion of why groups don't work

1251
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: or why groups break up eventually, right, because I won't

1252
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: even say they don't work. Y'all think it's so mean.

1253
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: It's records, a gang of hit records. So you absolutely

1254
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: worked and it absolutely was successful and it's successful. But

1255
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: people always you know, the average fan, because I still

1256
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 1: look at myself as a fan, right, and the average

1257
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: fan is just like, I want to see that and

1258
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: why isn't it that?

1259
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 4: And they don't understand all the things that go into

1260
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 4: that and into keeping that as a unit. And that's

1261
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 4: why I wanted to ask you, you know, just at

1262
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 4: what point or how did you see it?

1263
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So now once.

1264
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 4: You figure out, okay, the group, the group, the group

1265
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 4: is disbanding, what's your mindset toward your solo music? Because

1266
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 4: obviously I know y'all write and producing, but is it

1267
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 4: is it clicking to you, like, yo, I still want

1268
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 4: to I want to sing my own song now.

1269
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: So people don't believe this when I said I never

1270
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: really saw myself as a solo artist, because when you

1271
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: look at the aesthetics of One twelve from a lead perspective,

1272
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: I felt like I was the last one to really

1273
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: really get it and identify. Like when I joined the group,

1274
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: Slim already knew who Slim was. Slim Durrum was already

1275
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: he knew what vocal he could do, Mike knew he

1276
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: was just super soulful, blah blah blah. But I was

1277
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: just still trying to figure out, like where can I

1278
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: what space cannot occupy? And so initially I was like,

1279
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: I ain't got all the confidence that they have as

1280
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: a lead vocalist. So I'm just gonna dive into all

1281
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: the backgrounds.

1282
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 4: And so is that why one twelve sounds is your

1283
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 4: voice as kind of the root note?

1284
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the backgrounds. I would just go in and

1285
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: do all the harmonies. I became the voice of. So

1286
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: like when people say the identity of one twelve, if

1287
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: they want to give Slim the voice, then Q is

1288
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: the foundation because all of the betting and all of

1289
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: the coloring was my voice, just laying the backgrounds and stuff,

1290
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 1: and so I never really had a the confidence to

1291
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: really be like, I'm good enough to just do a

1292
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: solo record, but because I still love to create, I

1293
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: would just go down in my studio. I would get

1294
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: tracks from all the producers and stuff, and I would

1295
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: just write right, right, right, right right, And then you know,

1296
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: every so often you get one of the ones like

1297
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: just give me something. I don't know who can say

1298
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 1: in this one, like let me just this one over here. Yeah,

1299
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 1: And man, I had put like eight records to the side,

1300
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: and then in two thousand and five we put out

1301
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: Pleasure and Pain album that had you already know on

1302
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: it and what If. And then there was this dormant

1303
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: period from Old maybe Old eight, And in twenty twelve,

1304
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'm just gonna spend some

1305
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: time on my own instrument. And I could tell you, man,

1306
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: that's when I really really that was the first time

1307
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 1: I really fell in love with just what my instrument

1308
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: can do and all of the nuances and levels. Because

1309
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: this was this was this would have been the first

1310
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: time I didn't have to share the song. I didn't

1311
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: have to just do my note or do my first verse,

1312
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: pass it on to somebody else. And I didn't realize

1313
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: that I could, I even had the talent to do that,

1314
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: because I was never called upon to do that. Like

1315
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: in one twelve, we all knew our roles. My role

1316
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: was the soft smooth. I was a set up guy,

1317
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: bring Doran in to take it home, take it to church,

1318
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: might go take be soulful and slim, gonna dance right.

1319
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: And so when it came time to do those parts

1320
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: of songs, I wasn't even really comfortable because I was

1321
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: never called on to do those those type of things right.

1322
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: And so going in the studio by myself, I had

1323
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: to really learn how to sing the bridge, how to

1324
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: take it there, cover, how to take it home, how

1325
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: to peel it back in, how to add lib without

1326
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: doing too much, how to really show that I got

1327
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 1: the tools, but not really doing too much. You don't

1328
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: want to overseing. So I had to really spend a

1329
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: whole lot of time. And so in twenty twelve, I

1330
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm confident enough now where I

1331
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: can do a whole album by myself, and that's when

1332
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: I released the Manual. Yeah, but then y'all still went

1333
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: back yep and made one more album, came back in

1334
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: sixteen and did Q mix Slimming durand yeah which is

1335
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: which is which I think is one of the dopest

1336
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: one twelve album top to bottom? Is that a bad

1337
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: Boy album? Or no, that's an E one? Independent? Were

1338
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: independent by this time E one? Yeah? Okay? In twenty seven,

1339
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen, one of those.

1340
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 4: So you got guys, the last bad Boy album is

1341
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 4: Pleasure Pain.

1342
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: So Pleasure Pain was a bad Boy Death Jam hot

1343
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: and what was the bad Boy Death Jam collaboration? Okay,

1344
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: Pleasure and Pain was full death Jam because we left

1345
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: bad Boy went to Death Death Jam, okay.

1346
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 4: And then from that point on they were just independence,

1347
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 4: your path into the independent game.

1348
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: How's it been for you? Because everybody's experience is different.

1349
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: I love it, man, you love it. I love it.

1350
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: I love it for you?

1351
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 4: What is what is the greatest things about having your

1352
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 4: independence as an established artist?

1353
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,799
Speaker 1: Because it's very different and people.

1354
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 4: Always talking about, oh, you know, I'm gonna be independent,

1355
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be It's a lot harder when you're just

1356
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 4: kicking it off independent other than when you already have

1357
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 4: a fan base, You already have people who are looking

1358
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 4: for your music, and maybe your dollars go a little

1359
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 4: bit further because you already may know some people, You

1360
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 4: may know some program directors, and you know.

1361
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: For me, Jade, I've always been a politician. Like the

1362
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: guys would always laugh because they was like every city

1363
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: we go to, Q gonna get the program direct this number,

1364
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: he gonna have the promoters and he's he's gonna have

1365
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: this person. So I get that any time hit the

1366
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: promoter and be like, yo, appreciate you for having us

1367
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: last night, looking forward to coming back next time. Going

1368
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: to radio station, I get the programs director number. I

1369
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: would know their birthday, send them hey, sending you love.

1370
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: Don't want now, just saying what's up? Da da da

1371
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: da da dah. And so I just did that. The

1372
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: human element just did that throughout. And so when you

1373
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: talk about having a leg up, the leg up was twofold. Yeah,

1374
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: because I'm coming from one twelve. But also I maintained

1375
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: some of my best friends in the industry now are

1376
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: twenty plus year relationship just because like you said, they

1377
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: just the human aspect of just staying in content. It

1378
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: ain't about records. It's just being just a human being.

1379
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,759
Speaker 1: So when I decided to go on this independent journey,

1380
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: all I did was just reached out to my friends

1381
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is what I'm getting ready to do.

1382
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: I'd love to send you something.

1383
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 3: Now.

1384
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: My job was to just make sure it was something

1385
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: that I could stand on, make sure it was hot.

1386
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want my friends to be feeling like damn

1387
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 1: Q all right, that's the worst thing you can do

1388
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: is put your friends in that tough spot, yeah, because

1389
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: they don't really want to tell I want to tell you,

1390
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: y'ah too. Yeah. But it's been great, man, because I

1391
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: have an amazing team. My company, Paramount Collective Ventures. I

1392
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: partner with my main manager, Dora Whitley. Then I have

1393
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: managing partners Gina Miller and Isain Rashid, all who are

1394
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: industry vetched twenty plus years. And so when I decided

1395
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 1: to go on this independent journey, I just remembered sitting

1396
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: in the major labels when we would have our label meeting, Yeah,

1397
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: and around the tape would be head of marketing, head

1398
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: of videos, head of promotions, head of radio, this, this, this,

1399
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: and so as an independent artist, I said, Yo, I

1400
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: need to imitate that. I need to mirror that. And

1401
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: so as an independent artist, I just started to put

1402
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 1: people in the places that I knew I needed. I

1403
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: know I need radio, I know I need marketing. Now

1404
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: I know I need social media management, I need a

1405
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: relationship with the DSPs. And so, yes, we're independent, but

1406
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: we're operating like an independent label because we have all

1407
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 1: of those label heads at the table. So now my

1408
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: independence ain't just a Q Parker lift. It's we are

1409
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: lifting it. But what about the lift of finance?

1410
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 4: Yeah right where now you're like, okay, this this is affecting,

1411
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,480
Speaker 4: this could or could affect my life.

1412
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: If I go for two singles? Are three singles? Right?

1413
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: And now you gotta do the Is the juice worth

1414
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: the squeeze? Yeah? I have always been a person man,

1415
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm a believe in myself. You got to have that

1416
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: kind of edge being an athlete. Give me the ball,

1417
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: I'll take the last shot, get give it to me,

1418
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: cleared out. I got it when lose a drap with me.

1419
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: And That's how I've always been. And so the blessing

1420
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: in my journey is I have an extensive catalog and

1421
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: so royalties are always coming. The residual income is always coming.

1422
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 1: And I've done a great job with different investments here

1423
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:47,560
Speaker 1: and there, and so when I decided to invest in myself,

1424
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm a fully independent artist and so everything you see

1425
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: has been funded by me. And I'll take I'll take

1426
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: the chance, man, because the one thing I know is

1427
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: radio will always be a part of my movement because

1428
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: as an owner of the records, if the record is successful,

1429
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: that's part of me getting a return on my investment,

1430
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: because the mechanicals of the record being played on radio

1431
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: is going to give me some of what I've invested.

1432
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: If I put money into pr if I put money

1433
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,879
Speaker 1: into social media, more eyes are going to be introduced

1434
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: to me, which in turn could turn into promoter's call

1435
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: and saying, yo, I want to book Ke Parker. So

1436
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: investing in myself has never been the issue. I'm just blessing.

1437
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm just grateful that a I have a wife and

1438
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: a family who understands that this independence is different than

1439
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: being on a major because they've witnessed me being on

1440
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: a major for so many years. You know, my wife

1441
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 1: just always say just don't let me come home, and

1442
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: the light switch don't don't work, don't let me turn

1443
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: that now, that's real and so long as we have

1444
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: that understanding. And fortunately for me, man, we've done some

1445
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: amazing records. They've responded well on red, they've done they've

1446
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: done well on the Billboard charts, and I'm still striving. Man,

1447
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a number one record. Yeah, with

1448
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,799
Speaker 1: the evolution evolution of romance.

1449
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 4: So I asked those questions, man, because I just like

1450
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 4: to give the information. And sometimes it's different depending on

1451
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 4: you know, the artist, the level of the artists, and

1452
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 4: the understanding of what you are putting at risk at

1453
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 4: times by being an independent uri Like you said, I

1454
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 4: got a I got a wife and a family. Yeah, man,

1455
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 4: But I also have an understanding wife and a family.

1456
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 4: You know, because in this in this journey that we're

1457
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 4: all on to do music and to do music as

1458
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 4: a career and be successful in it, we have to

1459
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 4: have the support of our household with us.

1460
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 1: Got to as we make these decisions of because sometimes,

1461
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, you you could have had a wife who

1462
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: said to you, hey, baby, we need that record deal.

1463
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: I need you to go get this advance. We can

1464
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 1: go do something with that.

1465
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Instead of you know,

1466
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait on the back end with you.

1467
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not always the conversation, you know what

1468
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean. It's been an amazing journey. You know this.

1469
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: It's been twelve years, from twenty twelve to twenty twenty

1470
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: four of me releasing individual music and this last this

1471
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 1: evolution of Romance campaign and movement that I've been on.

1472
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: It's been two years and it's been two of the

1473
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 1: best years of my musical career because I have the

1474
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: freedom to move the way that I want to move.

1475
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: I still enjoy getting on the road me and I'm saying,

1476
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: we get on the road and we go to radio,

1477
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 1: we go in the stations, we do the meet and Greece,

1478
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 1: we do the in I can say in stores, no moment,

1479
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: were kissing every baby, shaking every hands, and it's just amazing.

1480
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: When we walk into the radio stations, program directors and

1481
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: on air personalities are just shocked that somebody mind at

1482
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: your level find value and coming into the stations. But again,

1483
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: that to me is equivalent to me getting the number,

1484
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: is staying in contact. It's the little things like that

1485
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: most artists of my caliber wouldn't want to do. They

1486
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: don't see the value in that. But I feel like, yeah,

1487
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: you know me, and there's a history with me in

1488
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: my group. But I look at it like I'm a

1489
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: new I'm breaking a new artist. I'm breaking myself as

1490
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: a new artist. And so I'm gonna do all the

1491
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 1: things that I was taught on how to do it

1492
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: when you're breaking the record, right, And it's been, it's been,

1493
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: it's been doing well. Man. This is qth Parker one

1494
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: on six and B B B up. I want to

1495
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: shout out to drop all. Yeah, I'm asking them before

1496
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: I leave. Can I do some drops for you? Right? Oh?

1497
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: You want to do drops? Absolutely? Yeah, that's dope. We're

1498
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 1: doing all of that. How many how many are how

1499
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: many shows are you doing a year?

1500
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 5: Now?

1501
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: It's around about like are you still doing it? Are

1502
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: you on the road a lot? So you know there

1503
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: are levels to this independence game, okay, And part of me,

1504
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, I see all the R and B explosion

1505
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,719
Speaker 1: tools and all of that. Yeah, and so I'm always

1506
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,759
Speaker 1: just telling you know, my crew of Q. Parker fans,

1507
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: you know, when you see a show coming to your town,

1508
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: you know, hit them up, say y'all want to see

1509
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: Q Parker. This. Then the third but the other part

1510
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: of me is saying it says I'm an independent artist.

1511
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: I don't got to wait on a promoter. I can

1512
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: put on my own shows because again it's all about ownership.

1513
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: I'm not waiting for a promoter to find value in

1514
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: having Q Parker on their bill with thirteen other artists,

1515
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 1: where I could just create an intimate setting on myself,

1516
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: rent the venue myself. I got the door, I get

1517
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: the bar, I get all of that, and I got

1518
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: an intimate two hundred and fifty. I'm building my own

1519
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: fan base. And you know, to all the promoters out there,

1520
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: if you don't see value, it's all good. Yeah you

1521
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: will eventually, but until then, you're doing that now in

1522
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: multiple cities. You're just like, yo, let me find me

1523
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: out my own venue. Yeah yeah, popping out. Yeah, I

1524
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: go and find a black owned venue in the city,

1525
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 1: work to work out a situation with them. One hundred

1526
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 1: and fifty cap two hundred camp as. I'm just building

1527
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 1: the foundation of this present day Q Parker so I

1528
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: can identify where the Q Parker fan is and just

1529
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: continue to just build on it. So I would love

1530
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: to be on the big shows with all you know,

1531
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: my peers and stuff, but I just can't wait on it. Right,

1532
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: So all the promoters out there, that's that part was

1533
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: for you through your drop the romance deal a baby

1534
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: put some romans on these shows not for real, for real.

1535
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 4: And the other part that I wanted to tell you too,

1536
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 4: man is I'm always happy to see you, bro, because

1537
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 4: you're preserved. Wow, right, Like I I just helped man

1538
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 4: our counterparts who don't pay attention to how we have

1539
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 4: to show up.

1540
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: Man, I'm like, man, come on, I'm glad, this is

1541
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 1: what we're paid to do. I'm glad you say that.

1542
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that because us we know better

1543
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: because everybody from our nineties era, we know the value

1544
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: that was put on presentation. It's one thing to have

1545
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,879
Speaker 1: these records, but if you're not, if you can't visually

1546
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: promote the song that you're singing, right, there's a disconnect.

1547
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 4: No, I remember when we did when we right, I

1548
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 4: said a tote tank, I said, this is kind of

1549
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 4: a one on one for you because as we go

1550
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 4: down the line of who could have you know, because.

1551
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: We're writers first, writers and producers. I remember he's more

1552
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: of an artist. I was a writer, producer, in my

1553
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: mind first more so than the artist. So I always

1554
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 1: look at songs and go who else could have sang this?

1555
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 1: And I heard artists that I that I mean, I

1556
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: saw artists in my head that I'm like, okay vocally

1557
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: now who could have pulled it off visually?

1558
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 4: And now the list gets smaller and smaller. Yeah, and

1559
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 4: it's because once again that brother's preserved himself.

1560
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: Yep. So you can't sing certain type of records if

1561
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: you're not gonna show up a certain way, you can't.

1562
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: And that's why I say to you, bro, like man,

1563
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: this as a brother, I'm proud of you that you

1564
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 1: take this shit serious to say no, no, no, I gotta

1565
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 1: show up a certain way. I gotta be fly. You

1566
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If I want to take my

1567
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: shirt off, I can. Please don't get it, you know

1568
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like this is R and B music, Bro,

1569
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: And I always say, we signed the syllables that said

1570
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: we was gonna do this, this, this, this, It didn't

1571
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: have an age limit on the right. So as long

1572
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 1: as long as I want, as long as I sing

1573
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:46,520
Speaker 1: the song anywhere, I gotta be able to present anywhere visually.

1574
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 1: And dude, you know, shout out to Kate wells Man

1575
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: because he drilled that into us. I don't know if

1576
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: I just paid more attention to it, but health and

1577
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: wellness that's just a part of who I am. And

1578
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: so every year I want to defile what fifty look like.

1579
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: I want to defile what sixty look like. I don't

1580
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: want to be the average seventy year old nah nah.

1581
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: And with the type of music that I sing, I'm

1582
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: all about romance, and so I can't be singing and

1583
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 1: pushing romance if I'm not presenting romance. Hey man, y'all

1584
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: heard him. Can't do it, y'all heard him, especially these

1585
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:28,919
Speaker 1: younger artists. Man, take care of yourself. Man, Please pleay yourself.

1586
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: It got damn haircut, Okay, man, get a haircut. And

1587
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: then also, you don't have to succumb to the lifestyle,

1588
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: because if a career of longevity is what you want,

1589
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 1: you can't do the things that everybody else is doing.

1590
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: It's the reason why Steph Curry makes more than he

1591
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: misses because he practiced more than everybody else. He don't

1592
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 1: go out, Covid, didn't go out when everybody was hanging out.

1593
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 1: He perfected his craft and so again you don't have

1594
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 1: to do the things. And I just never have understood

1595
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: this how as a vocalist, alcohol smoking, right, this right?

1596
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 1: Who like? And again nothing against it because you make

1597
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 1: the decisions how you're going to affect, but it is

1598
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 1: going to affect you. And so when people say, damn,

1599
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: can you sound better today than you did? Yeah, because

1600
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: I choose the things in my life that preserve the

1601
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: instrument that I need to survive. Yeah. Yeah, No, that's real.

1602
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: That's one of the reason why I don't say no

1603
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 1: more because I be bullshiting sometimes, like I don't do

1604
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 1: no other things you said, but I like to play

1605
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: basketball and screaming and be cussing and argue with shit.

1606
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 4: No funny, funny story, bro. So you know they just

1607
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 4: had verses and Tank called me. He said, I saw

1608
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 4: you yelling on the internet. I said, man, why are

1609
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 4: you on my page bothering me? Leave me alone?

1610
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: He said, you know you gotta sing with me, nigga, Yeah,

1611
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: he said, versus is on one of the days you

1612
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: hoop on He said, don't go to the run. Don't

1613
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: go to the run today.

1614
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 4: Just just do that for me, Champ, Come on, chief,

1615
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 4: don't just don't go to the run. To day, I said,

1616
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 4: you know what, Tank, You're right, yeah, stay my ass home.

1617
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna go to the run. And when I

1618
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 4: went out there, I was serious and I sang my part.

1619
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 4: I was on that stage for forty five seconds, sanging

1620
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 4: my notes the way that they are on the motherfucking song.

1621
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: I was not playing no games. I was like, listen,

1622
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta come out here and tanks it.

1623
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: I can't be bullshitting, but usually I be. Man, I

1624
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: be yelling and screaming and shit, did I come in here?

1625
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 4: I be laughing at joke? But no, you have to

1626
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 4: preserve a way. It's funny. I was at sound check.

1627
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 4: I was telling Mona that, cause you know, Mona managers

1628
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 4: tyres now Man. She was like, oh, so this month's

1629
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 4: meaning we getting the houbum of you and you're about

1630
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 4: to I said, Mona, I don't want to do the things.

1631
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 1: I ain't even lie to you. We ain't gonna go

1632
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: down there, bro, because all this preparation. Come on, I

1633
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: don't want to do this every day. I want to

1634
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: come out every two years. Who's who's on versus this time?

1635
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 1: Je I got a song with him okay out yeah, yeah.

1636
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: But once again, I also I don't like getting in

1637
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 1: the way.

1638
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 4: There are so many artists and so many greats, young

1639
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 4: and old and in between that really won't this thing.

1640
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Man. I'd rather interview y'all now if I want to

1641
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: have fun and then drop a song here and there

1642
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: off full of love. Yeah, but just playing around and

1643
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: not because I just know how I am. I know

1644
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: where I come from. I know what my daddy raised.

1645
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: He wasn't playing no game. My daddy was on. Brook

1646
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: Payne was our choreographer, you know what I'm saying. Like

1647
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: Seth Riggs was our MOBO coach. Joe Jackson signed us first.

1648
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 4: So for me, I look at music, I look at

1649
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 4: the process different.

1650
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm not playing if.

1651
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna really get involved with it, you know what

1652
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And if I'm gonna still be in a

1653
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 4: mode where I can't fully focus on that, I'm gonna

1654
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 4: stay to the side and let my brothers who really

1655
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 4: are after this thing, that really want to go after it.

1656
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 4: I'm not getting in a way because once again, at radio,

1657
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 4: there's only so many slots on that DSP, It's only

1658
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 4: so many songs on those playlists. I ain't getting in

1659
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 4: the way of people, man, Like you know, I'm gonna

1660
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 4: be here to support. And that's why I wanted you

1661
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 4: to come on here, man, because seeing you, seeing your path,

1662
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 4: watching you as a fan, then becoming your friend, becoming

1663
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 4: your brother in this game. Bro, I'm really proud of

1664
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 4: you as a counterpart and how you've handled yourself, how

1665
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:59,520
Speaker 4: you've done your business, and how you've presented. It's always positive,

1666
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,719
Speaker 4: it's always clean, it's always fly.

1667
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I said, listen, man, I

1668
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 1: see what you're doing. Man, I don't know if the

1669
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: cameras might not catch the I mean the yellow ballista

1670
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 1: I mean with the yeah man, Yeah, this is what

1671
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: we signed up for, Yes, sir, We signed up for, yes, sir, Man.

1672
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: You know I always always think about I heard this

1673
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: story that MJ said. Michael Jordan said either Michael Kobe

1674
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 1: said one of them. He said, the reason I show

1675
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 1: up every game is because that night might be somebody's

1676
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: first and only time that they'll get to see me.

1677
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: And I would hate for that one time for me

1678
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 1: to be on some bullshit and don't give them D.

1679
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, d Michael Jordan. And that's just how I

1680
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: approach every every time I go out, every time I

1681
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to sing, every time I do an interview.

1682
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 1: This may be somebody's first time getting a full scope

1683
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 1: of Q Parker. What is it that I want them

1684
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: to walk away with? So that's why I got to

1685
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: sound a certain way. It's got to be presented a

1686
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 1: certain way. My angle gotta be a certain way, I aim. Man.

1687
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm representing not only me, but I got grandchildren now, man,

1688
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 1: and so that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, grand babies, three of them. Yeah,

1689
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: and it's the best. Yeah, I was. I was telling

1690
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:21,759
Speaker 1: you before we started filming it. I can't wait.

1691
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 4: I can't wait till I can say that. That means

1692
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 4: we've really done something right.

1693
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1694
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 4: That's when we've really done something right when we can

1695
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,440
Speaker 4: say that legacy. Yeah, when you have that. So what's next?

1696
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: What's next? Man? So I'm just on this romance journey.

1697
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing a romance volume series. Volume one is available now. Yeah,

1698
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm going in and do what's the single? Oh? The

1699
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: current single now, it's called put it on produced by

1700
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 1: Even when you got nothing, no, you still put it on?

1701
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1702
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, still put it on. And again

1703
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 1: it's just you know, I grew up watching the soap operas, man,

1704
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:02,520
Speaker 1: and so everything about me is I'm a hopeful romantic

1705
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:07,520
Speaker 1: and I believe that in all the music that is available,

1706
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 1: especially to the women, romance sometimes get lost in this.

1707
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: Now we were talking about that, man, it's just even

1708
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 1: just even your word playing it.

1709
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, because obviously I'm a lyric guy, right, like, yeah,

1710
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 4: you put it. You got a record call three some.

1711
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 4: But it's a different type of record other than what

1712
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 4: people would expect.

1713
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So for me, I love the evolution of it. Yeah.

1714
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 4: I love that you're making grown man music for adults

1715
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 4: and you're a married man, which is very different in

1716
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 4: R and B music. Been married a long time and it's.

1717
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty four years, congratulations, congratulations. So again it's just

1718
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: for me. Every time I show up, every time I

1719
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: open my mouth, every time I present anything, it's gonna

1720
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,839
Speaker 1: have romance, Yeah, all over it. So I'm going into

1721
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: we would call it volume two, and I'm committed to this,

1722
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: to this romance volume series for at least four or

1723
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 1: five volumes, Okay, so a BYT three three four years

1724
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: or so, I'm committed to it so, and so.

1725
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 4: You're looking at it like, listen, I'm making music until

1726
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 4: I came on here.

1727
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I love that, bro, I love that I might,

1728
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 1: I might, I might make me some music. Man, I said,

1729
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: I said something as a teenager. I said something as

1730
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: a teenager. And I don't even know if Puffy knew

1731
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 1: what he was doing, but I caught it, and it's

1732
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,719
Speaker 1: been something that I've kept with me the very first

1733
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 1: time you heard one twelve, you heard Q Parker's voice first, right,

1734
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 1: but you also heard I thought. I told you that

1735
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 1: we're going to stop, and so I can't stop. Now

1736
01:37:51,280 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 1: that's great, many ro what we got man? We got

1737
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: something for him? Man, you know what I mean.

1738
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 4: We had to get into this very talented musical thing

1739
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 4: segment of our show Man.

1740
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 1: We'll playing play it's a little something that tanks in

1741
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 1: then man. Top five?

1742
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, your top five, top five, your topsing.

1743
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 1: Already song and he wow, we got to.

1744
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 3: Know before you go.

1745
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 5: This show.

1746
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: You want to know, yes, top.

1747
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 6: You top.

1748
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: Okay, look.

1749
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 4: All right, so we ad that we at that party

1750
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 4: show Man, will you tell us your top five R

1751
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 4: and B singers and your top five R and B song?

1752
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 1: All right? Top five R and B singers ever, right

1753
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 1: who just? Okay? Ever? Whenever? However would Top five R

1754
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 1: and B singers for me? Is Stevie Wonder? Okay? Marvin Gaye, yeah, babyface.

1755
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 1: A couple of groups in there, Okay, you keep parking, Okay, okay,

1756
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: Luther Vandross Love Luther Man do things in the group. No,

1757
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just And then the last one, the

1758
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 1: last one, I'm gonna say Rusher, Yeah yeah, all right, man,

1759
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: since you're here, I'm for you. Groups, vocal groups, vocal groups. Oh,

1760
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 1: one twelve, all day, okay, okay, top can't nobody see

1761
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 1: one twelve? One twelve? Then Jobsy boised the men Jagged

1762
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Edge and number five. I'm gonna go back a little bit,

1763
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 1: just to be respectful. I'm gonna say the Temptations, come on,

1764
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 1: come on, slash Jackson five, slashing that. Yeah, I'm slashing

1765
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 1: slashing that. Yeah. Well, you don't got no new addition

1766
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 1: in there. You know what I do?

1767
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 3: You know what?

1768
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 1: It's yours though, I oh so so No, no, no, no,

1769
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 1: you don't have to explain, okay if you unless you

1770
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 1: want to. I just I have to. The cy had

1771
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 1: to be in categories Okay, okay, right now we're talking

1772
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 1: about success and what and how you define that, then

1773
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 1: obviously a new addition is the top of the chain

1774
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: because not only will have they been successful, but he

1775
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 1: from like, that's just it's crazy. It's different. But you

1776
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: know when you talk about what I love, and I'm

1777
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 1: a singer, singer, like, I'm a singer, so I like singing, singing, singing. Uh,

1778
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: that's why I choose the way that I chose absolutely

1779
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 1: all Right, Now, what's your uh top five R and

1780
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 1: B songs? Top five R and B songs? Babyface? Soon

1781
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: as I get home, amazing record, Man, I'm gonna slash

1782
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 1: him to whip a peel. Okay, I'm gonna say, uh,

1783
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 1: Jagged Edge gotta be man, that song is okay.

1784
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 4: So then as they have that song out, you in

1785
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 4: one twelve, like shit, oh sha was in Jagged.

1786
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 1: This week, So man, I'm calling the guy. I was like,

1787
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:05,679
Speaker 1: do y'all ya it is? Man? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, heed

1788
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 1: it Yeah, overjoyed, Stevie Wonder, sexual healing, Marvin Gate in there.

1789
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1790
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:19,600
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with

1791
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston. Man, I will always love.

1792
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 4: You amazing record, Yeah, amazing record. Okay, okay, so let's

1793
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 4: go your top five. Now we're gonna go to the

1794
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 4: vote trying. Okay, where you build your ultimate R and

1795
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 4: B singer? She'd give us the vocals, the performance, the

1796
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 4: performance style, the close, the drip, that style.

1797
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 1: And then who got the passion? Wow?

1798
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna start with vocals first. Who's your who's

1799
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 4: your lead singer? Oh my least, you're building the greatest

1800
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 4: R and B singer of all time. It could be

1801
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 4: male and female makes it don't matter either.

1802
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 1: My uh Marvin gonna be the vocals, okay, yeah, yeah,

1803
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: because I'm creating, So.

1804
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 4: We're gonna say something to that. Yeah, it's gonna have

1805
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 4: some different type of feeling to it. Okay, might have

1806
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 4: a beanie on.

1807
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 1: All right, okay, alright, alright, alright. Performing style when they

1808
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:30,839
Speaker 1: hit the stage, it's gotta be man. Say I'm a slash.

1809
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: Come on, you get some slash. I'm a slash. I'm

1810
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:40,679
Speaker 1: gonna say usher usher, Mike Chris Brown. That's three slash

1811
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 1: usually slashes here and here, slash slicing, now slash dot

1812
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: that usher Chris Brown and Michael Jackson as a performer

1813
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: is insanity. But we're rolling. Okay, the style, the drip.

1814
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 1: Who putting that ship on? B Brown? Bobby? This is

1815
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 1: with the slang the gun beer. What we're doing that?

1816
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 1: Bobby the high right, low left Bobby? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay,

1817
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 1: he got the style. Now who got the passion? Passion? Wow?

1818
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 1: Who got the people in their faint, crying, passing out?

1819
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 1: Teddy P, Teddy P. That's why I still wear a

1820
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 1: little necklace because Teddy P. Man, teddy people about the

1821
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 1: little neck Hey I got, but I got the little necklace.

1822
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 1: I got the little one out of two, yeah, one

1823
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: out the two, man, You know what I mean? Open

1824
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 1: the shirt a little bit, shore a little bit of.

1825
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 4: The necklace, Teddy Okay, that's a different type of passion.

1826
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 4: And for you, mm hm, who would you want to

1827
01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 4: be in a group with this artists that you've created,

1828
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 4: this artist you've made up? Who's the Who's who's the artist?

1829
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 4: You look at and like, damn, I could have been

1830
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 4: in a group with such and such. Damn, Jane, I

1831
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 4: knew I was gonna I know I was gonna throw

1832
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 4: you off with them. How many in the group?

1833
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 1: Just you? Just one artist? He and somebody. I could

1834
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 1: have been in a group with such and such. That's

1835
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 1: not one twelve Nick Q. Parker and Jazzmine Sullivan A.

1836
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: It would be crazy. That would be crazy. Bro, You

1837
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 1: a Jazmine in the group together would be crazy. Yeah.

1838
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, man, Jazzmin, get at me.

1839
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:52,759
Speaker 1: Just do a song, still record, he's still doing drops. Hey, exactly.

1840
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 1: Sidney told you come over here, dude, you god damn

1841
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 1: d because he'd be trying with Sidney drying work me.

1842
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm not given an artist like Jay. You know you

1843
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 1: gotta walk the carpet. I said, Nope, I'm just gonna

1844
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 1: sneak in the side door and I'll be in the

1845
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 1: venue by time it's start. Yeah, yeah, all right. What

1846
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 1: else we got for what they we got? We got

1847
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 1: something else cooked up? Man? What else we got? Baby?

1848
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 1: What we got?

1849
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 3: Come on?

1850
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no Nicky, ain't saying no name. Saying

1851
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 1: no names? What you did, don't say?

1852
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 4: She said, Now that's the most important part of the show. Okay,

1853
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 4: will you tell us a story funny or fucked up?

1854
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 4: Are funny and fucked up? Only rule to the game.

1855
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 4: Ke Parker can't say no name Okay, I got it.

1856
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:01,560
Speaker 4: You got one yep on.

1857
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 1: So this was early on in one twelveth career. We

1858
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 1: wanted a song from this artist, this producer songwriter so bad.

1859
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 1: We all flew out to the city that they lived in,

1860
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:25,840
Speaker 1: went to his house for an audition. When we got there,

1861
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 1: we never been around anything so plush and just right, like,

1862
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:32,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, look at this. He was rich. Oh

1863
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: my god, this never feel different. Can I touch that?

1864
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't test that. I hear my MoMA, don't test

1865
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 1: in listen. White carpet, Okay, I don't know why people

1866
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 1: do that. Didn't take our shoes off, man, messed up

1867
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 1: the person's car. Was it like the low carpet? Like

1868
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 1: now it was the plush, the plush. It was a

1869
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 1: plush carpet. It she ain't never really been nowhere. So

1870
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,719
Speaker 1: y'all don't know. We don't know to take your shoes

1871
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 1: off for, you know, So we just and I believe

1872
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 1: that because we messed up the carpet, we didn't get

1873
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 1: a song from this particular person. But what I can

1874
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: say is because we didn't get that song, it inspired

1875
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 1: us to channel that person to go and create our

1876
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 1: own song, which then became one of our biggest songs.

1877
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 1: Who do y'all think it is? I know who I

1878
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: think it is, don't DM me. I ain't gonna tell

1879
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 1: y'all who I think it is, but I think I

1880
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 1: think I know who who got White Carpet up to

1881
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:57,720
Speaker 1: here Carpet's biggest tall ground and it was plush. It

1882
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:01,679
Speaker 1: was plush. It was plush. I mean I probably would

1883
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: have wanted to take my shoes off so I can

1884
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 1: really feel how pressure were. But I just didn't know

1885
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 1: no better man. Man.

1886
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 4: That's like the first time I got it. Uh, one

1887
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 4: of the homies Rose Royce. I don't have a Rose RoCE,

1888
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 4: but one of the homies got a Rose Royce, right,

1889
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 4: And I was like, I like, is this man?

1890
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Speaker 1: I'm taking? You know what? So I could what the

1891
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 1: Rose Royce? This men feel like in this Rose roy

1892
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 1: That's what I would have did at the White House

1893
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 1: or wherever the hell ya I was at. I mean,

1894
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 1: it was already in awe, So probably somebody said taking

1895
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,720
Speaker 1: shoes off, but we probably didn't even hear it. Did

1896
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 1: y'all even get a chance to hear some music or no, no,

1897
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 1: just y'all just came in there and sucked up his

1898
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: car and just went in there and missed. I don't

1899
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 1: even remember auditioning. I just remember the answer was no

1900
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 1: as soon as y'all got there pretty much. Man, Yes,

1901
01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 1: you got some records for us. We didn't get a

1902
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 1: song from this person that we didn't get a song,

1903
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 1: so I don't know we did it. I mean, but again,

1904
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 1: you know, and yo getting the song from this person

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01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 1: at the time, he was on a roll, right, I'm

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01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 1: talking about back to back, back to back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 4: Now, when the when the when the producers get their

1909
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 4: their time to really yeah, ten records straight, everybody got

1910
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 4: everybody get one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, Yeah. That that's incredible. Bro.

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Speaker 4: Listen, your journey, like I said earlier, Man, is inspiring

1914
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 4: appreciate because the other part about it is that for

1915
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 4: the time I've known you, you've always been the same,

1916
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 4: Always been a good dude, always been gracious, always positive.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, Man, And and to see that in

1918
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Speaker 1: this industry.

1919
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 4: Where it's not expected at all times, you know, So

1920
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:56,599
Speaker 4: for me, I always like to celebrate that when there

1921
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 4: are people that I meet personally that I can say

1922
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 4: that about, man.

1923
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Speaker 1: And you know, I appreciate our brotherhood, man, I appreciate

1924
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Speaker 1: you doing it well, I do it. Yeah, appreciate you, man, Yes, sir,

1925
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,680
Speaker 1: always been consistent, always been the same, no matter where

1926
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 1: I see you. Man, so and likes you said that

1927
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 1: that is rare, especially in this game man, because Casson

1928
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 1: look at you like they don't know you. And yeah,

1929
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 1: just doing too much. Man. You've always been consistent, and

1930
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that too. Yeah. Absolutely, man. Well listen, I'm

1931
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Speaker 1: Jay Valentine Q.

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Speaker 4: Parker and this is the R and B Money Podcast.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate y'all tuning in for us.

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Speaker 1: Y'all.

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Speaker 4: Make sure y'all get all the music, y'all, make sure

1936
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Speaker 4: y'all talk to them promoters.

1937
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 1: Keep my brother out here cracking and working. And if

1938
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:44,640
Speaker 1: y'all need drops, he said, come on, all doing it all.

1939
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 1: We're doing it all. Ye y'all gotta play that record

1940
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Speaker 1: too though. See y'all next week