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Speaker 1: good afternoon and welcome to the show. It is a

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Speaker 1: Got a good guest coming up at two. Tony Pauline,

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Speaker 1: let us hear from me. What do you think? What

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Speaker 1: do you think of the Vegas projected win total of

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Speaker 1: six for the Bills? Do I think they're gonna win

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Speaker 1: more than that? Look, we're always accused of being Homer's

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Speaker 1: and we work here, so we probably are. But I

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Speaker 1: do think they're they're capable. Yet I'll own it. It's

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Speaker 1: they're capable to more than six wins, right, No, I

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Speaker 1: missed something. Give us a call eight h three h

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Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. You want God calls or a tweet sheet? First?

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Speaker 1: What do you like? What do you want? I don't

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Speaker 1: have a tweet sheet in front of me. Well, I know,

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Speaker 1: I put it somewhere. Here's the tweet sheet from Jordan,

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Speaker 1: take a call, he says, Okay, tweet cheat from Jordan

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Speaker 1: borring catastrophic injuries, which again is a factor which you

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Speaker 1: can't anticipate. Jordan says, barring catastrophic injuries, there's no way

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Speaker 1: the Bills win less than seven games. I'm inclined to

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Speaker 1: agree with that. I think they're at least a seven

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Speaker 1: win team. And I'm like, I said, nine or ten

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Speaker 1: seems Here's Brian Rossignell tweets in personally, I think the

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Speaker 1: overunder should be nine or ten. Well, that's a high

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Speaker 1: over and under for this team which hasn't done a

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Speaker 1: lot of nine or ten win seasons over the year.

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Speaker 1: And you think, did you read the number first one

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Speaker 1: on that sheet? I did not. Here's and here's where

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Speaker 1: that the people who listen to us regularly will probably

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Speaker 1: fall in That from Tiffany Daniels. They won six games

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Speaker 1: last year with a revolving door at quarterback, an offensive

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Speaker 1: line that lost Wooden incognito, and a collection of young

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Speaker 1: guys that key positions. Nine plus wins is the mark

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Speaker 1: this year. Adding help to the offensive line and Josh

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Speaker 1: being a clear number one clear cut number one starter.

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Speaker 1: We should be way more competitive this year, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's where most Bills fans would fall, and particularly

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Speaker 1: the people who you know, listen to you and me

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Speaker 1: all the time, which I don't know how many of

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Speaker 1: them there are, but thousands. A couple of dozen. Phone

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Speaker 1: call here from Stephen Buffalo. Go ahead, Steve, six wins.

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Speaker 1: What do you think t you? First of all, I

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Speaker 1: have to definitely agree with you, guys. Six, between six

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Speaker 1: and nine. It's five months away. Let's face it. At

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Speaker 1: April second, a ton of things can happen, but I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what, six right now. It will be above

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Speaker 1: six by the time they kick it off in September.

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Speaker 1: So if anybody wants to get in on the more

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Speaker 1: than six, I would suggest that they maybe uh see

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Speaker 1: their local whoever they got to see immediately going to

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Speaker 1: be some state officials employ legal sports book. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we're just coming into Western New York hopefully in

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Speaker 1: a couple of months. But anyway, you know, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: you know, nine wins, six wins. If they say if

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Speaker 1: this somehow is a lower than six, if it isn't

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Speaker 1: under they're gonna be looking for new coach. And I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to hear from you guys. As of April second,

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Speaker 1: a million things can change. What is the number that

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Speaker 1: keeps these guys here? I mean, I know two years

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Speaker 1: ago they sort of luck into the playoffs and they

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Speaker 1: won nine games. So that's not luck, right, Oh? Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: they won nine games, watch the okay, but that gets

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Speaker 1: that buys this last year, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: we're into the year. The cap is clean, and we

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Speaker 1: got some players, we can do some things. What's the

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Speaker 1: number that they have to reach for them to be

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Speaker 1: safe next year? Golden coach, I'm on your opinions, all right.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you right opinions to see. With all due respect,

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Speaker 1: this is one of my least favorite questions that people ask,

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Speaker 1: with all due respects to even I know we kind

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Speaker 1: of set it up with this over and underwin thing

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Speaker 1: six wins, but look, I don't know how it's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. I don't and I don't like when coaches

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Speaker 1: are fired. It's it's it's troubling, it's disruptive, it set

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Speaker 1: you back more than a year. I think we saw

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Speaker 1: that here, even with this last coaching change, which I

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Speaker 1: think has been a good one, and you could argue this,

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Speaker 1: the bill has won six last year, and this guy

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Speaker 1: will argue it right here next to me. Last year

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Speaker 1: was progress for this regime, even though they went back

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Speaker 1: three wins, even though they lost many more than they won.

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Speaker 1: It is reflective of progress with what they've done on

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Speaker 1: the cap, with what they've done creating the the culture here,

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Speaker 1: which a lot of people don't want to hear, with

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Speaker 1: what they've done in building the team they want to build.

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Speaker 1: Last year with six wins, three wins fewer than the

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Speaker 1: year before. Last year represents progress. So to say today,

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Speaker 1: how many do they need to win to save their jobs?

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Speaker 1: I think that's meaningless, pointless. It's one of my least

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Speaker 1: favorite questions because I know there's almost like a subset

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Speaker 1: steve of fans who live for the so called Black

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Speaker 1: Monday when all the coaching changes take place. I'm not

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Speaker 1: one of those at all. I know what that represents,

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Speaker 1: that a coaching change is a major upheaval that disrupts

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Speaker 1: lives and it sets teams back. So you have to

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Speaker 1: avoid it as much as you can until it gets untenable.

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Speaker 1: One might argue, Stephen, you're a Sabers hockey fan. The

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Speaker 1: Savers have sort of played themselves the last month into

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Speaker 1: a situation where I was thinking about it today. You

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Speaker 1: know how I always tell you I'll do my best

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Speaker 1: thinking in the shower. You almost have to if your

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Speaker 1: team plays the way the Sabers. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I got off on this tangent. When your team plays

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Speaker 1: when the Sabers have played the last month, you almost

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Speaker 1: have to make a change. You can't keep a coach

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Speaker 1: around who presides over that sort of disruption, that sort

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Speaker 1: of a collapse that we've seen. Yeah, totally different issue,

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Speaker 1: right and Steve and I don't want to Steve. Here's

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Speaker 1: my take on. It's what the team looks like. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a tough league to win in. Uh, no question

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Speaker 1: if you if you go, you know, if it looks

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Speaker 1: like you know, the team's given up, or if like

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Speaker 1: last year, like Murph said, six wins last year with

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Speaker 1: the what happened at their quarterback position and the mistakes

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Speaker 1: they made by not having like Derek Anderson in quicker

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Speaker 1: or a better backup situation where they went in with

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Speaker 1: virtually two rookies at quarterback and then had injuries to

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Speaker 1: sustain that's kind of like, wow, you understand he had

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Speaker 1: four different quarterbacks starting a game, two of which were

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Speaker 1: in town less than two weeks before they actually took

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Speaker 1: the starting quarterback snaps. It was a it was a

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Speaker 1: nightmare from that at that position last year. A lot

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Speaker 1: of it was because of the offensive line, something that

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Speaker 1: happened to him out of the blue. They didn't know

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Speaker 1: that was coming in the offseason, couldn't really brace for it.

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Speaker 1: All of that stuff goes into the mix. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know that there is a range of where, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have to throw. I think it would be really

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Speaker 1: catastrophic to have something happened so bad to this regime

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Speaker 1: and this coaching staff, this general management, all of that,

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Speaker 1: to throw the towel in on it. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: see that happening. Certainly, if they go, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to see that happening. Certainly, you go one win

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Speaker 1: or whatever whatever. But if there's catastrophic injuries, if six

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Speaker 1: guys go down to injury, if something happens, if there's

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Speaker 1: a bus crash or something like that, obviously all of

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Speaker 1: that stuff is off the table and you get some

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Speaker 1: leeway with your wins and losses. If something happens to

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmonds and Lashawn McCoy, and you're

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Speaker 1: and Mitch Morrise and you know, John Brown and Cole Beasley,

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Speaker 1: if all those guys you know, somehow don't line up,

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Speaker 1: well everything's different then. But if everybody stays healthy and

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Speaker 1: then you still don't win games, yeah, that I see it.

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Speaker 1: But I think also, let's face it, there were three

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Speaker 1: games this last year at the end, and you even

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Speaker 1: talk to the players, there were three games this last year.

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Speaker 1: That Miami game that I just mentioned a few minutes ago,

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Speaker 1: where you know, Josh stays alive and makes the big

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Speaker 1: throw and it comes out of his hand funky, and

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Speaker 1: Charles Clay can't get back to it and that can't

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Speaker 1: adjust to it. They lose a game because of that.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a different kind of loss than Opening

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Speaker 1: Day when you get forty two to seven, when you

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Speaker 1: got hung on you know. So there's a there's a

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Speaker 1: big range there. I don't know what I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't get caught up in the wins and loss of

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about a catastrophic change, like you're talking

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Speaker 1: about Steve the caller, So I have to see what

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Speaker 1: the whole thing looks like before I make a decision

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Speaker 1: like that. I don't think there is a number like that.

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Speaker 1: You don't know. I don't either. I think they'll look

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Speaker 1: at it like, how did this go? How did we

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Speaker 1: get why did it happen? Yeah, if it's Sean McDermot

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Speaker 1: the coaching staf's fault and everybody was healthy and you

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Speaker 1: got everything, all the stuff that you put in place

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Speaker 1: and none of it works, okay, but you know, how

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Speaker 1: did you get there? How'd you get there? We're gonna break.

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Speaker 1: We're coming back with more of the Bills. Projected to

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Speaker 1: win six games by a Las Vegas sports book. What

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Speaker 1: do you think of that? Should it be higher? Lower? Six?

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Speaker 1: About right? Give us a call. Eighth three, five fifty

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. John Murphy was Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live, presented by Kalidah Health from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back. It's

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on this Tuesday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy was Steve Tasher. A lot of my buddies

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Speaker 1: in town. See my friend Patrick Beline being introduced at

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Speaker 1: an eleven o'clock news conference up at Niagara University, the

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Speaker 1: new head coach of the Purple Eagles congratulates to him.

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Speaker 1: Happy to half him coming back to Western New York

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Speaker 1: where he lived as a youngster and his dad, coach

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Speaker 1: John Beeline, was there. All my friends are up there

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Speaker 1: at Niagara today and I didn't go. You know why

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Speaker 1: Steve stuck here with me. No. I am committed to

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Speaker 1: this job, darn it. I'm committed to the job. Thought

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Speaker 1: about calling. I thought could Steve he ended the show

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Speaker 1: if I didn't come in, and I thought you better

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Speaker 1: come in. Just kidding in. Hey, we've both got a

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Speaker 1: date right with Frank Wright. Coming up next month, Saturday

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Speaker 1: May eighteenth. You're gonna be there called the Courage Awards

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Speaker 1: Breakfast coming up this year. I've m seated for several year.

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Speaker 1: Is going to do it again Saturday May eighteenth at

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Speaker 1: the Higher Agency downtown. Andy Dalton is going to be

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Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen Called to Courage Award winner. That should

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Speaker 1: be great, right, Andy Dalton, who threw the past that

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Speaker 1: essentially got the Bills in the playoffs a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago coming back to be honored by the Call

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Speaker 1: to Courage Award. It is Saturday, May eighteenth, nine am.

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Speaker 1: We'll get you out of there by eleven am. You

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Speaker 1: can call for tickets right now at five five nine,

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Speaker 1: eighteen hundred. Proceeds benefit the Western New York Chapter of

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Speaker 1: Help Me out here Steve, Western York Chapter of Boys

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Speaker 1: and Girls. No, the Pro Ministry of Athletes Time. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's right. I was looking for the right time Athletes

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Speaker 1: year here. By the way, I've been in texting back

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Speaker 1: and forth a little bit. Frank and Linda Frank Reich

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Speaker 1: and is lovely. The wife Linda, who I've known for

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Speaker 1: thirty two years, just blessed for their first grandchild. Is

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Speaker 1: a way. Yeah really you're a daughter Leah and her

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Speaker 1: great and had their first grand for them, good for them, Yeah, excellent.

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Speaker 1: So that'd be cool if you want to go five

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Speaker 1: eighteen hundred the number to call for tickets. They call

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Speaker 1: the Courage Awards Breakfast coming up in about a month

636
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Speaker 1: or so. Now. The question on the table, Las Vegas

637
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Sports Sport comes out with win projections for

638
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Speaker 1: every team in the NFL at this early stage, but

639
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: midway through the offseason, they have the Patriots to win

640
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: eleven games, they have the Dolphins Cardinals to win five,

641
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: and they have the Bills winning six games. That sound right,

642
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: give us a call eighth three five fifty and twelve

643
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: three one eight eight eight fifty two five fifty. At

644
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: the risk of sounding um pollyanna ish, which we always

645
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: feel like we are anyway, that sounds Oh no, people

646
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: like tell you you guys work for them, Yeah, we do.

647
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: We work for the Bills. I just think six wins

648
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: sound low. If I worked for Bethlem Steel, I'd think,

649
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: but that sounds low, right, Six wins sounds low for

650
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: this team. Yeah, we're in the you know, a pretty

651
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: good stretch going on here with the offseason, the signings

652
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: they made fourteen fifteen signings, most of it dedicated to

653
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, were three weeks away

654
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: from the draft. A team that won six games last year,

655
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Speaker 1: with the quarterback stuff they had with a horrible start,

656
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: I would think they got They're gonna do better than

657
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: six wins, right, I would think so here's a call

658
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Speaker 1: from Jeff. College Point. Where's College Point? Jeff? College Point

659
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Speaker 1: is in Queens, Murphy, Okay, New York City? Good? The

660
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Speaker 1: New York Times, Okay, I don't know where that is

661
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: all a little untapped area of college Points. This show

662
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: is great. I know you guys open a tongue in

663
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: cheek saying nobody's out there listening. We're out there, we're

664
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Speaker 1: out there listening. I appreciate thanks, thanks, Jeff. Yeah, absolutely so.

665
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: I know how you guys said you love your jobs.

666
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: I was pre law and then I game an electrician

667
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: and I love it and it shows I've got voted

668
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Speaker 1: thirteenth past electrician in Queens. Why all right? Where to go?

669
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Speaker 1: That's great? Thank you so much. We really appreciate that. Yeah.

670
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get to the point. How many do

671
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Speaker 1: they rank, Jeff? How many electricians do they rank in Queens?

672
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Speaker 1: Get to the top twenty five? Is it? You know

673
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: what was basketball polland top twenty by No? No, no,

674
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Speaker 1: it's the Union and it's a it's at that's good. Congratulate.

675
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah, thank you very much. I don't

676
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: don't run into a lot of bills fans, but we

677
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: got some Bills faithful down here at College Point. Yeah,

678
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Speaker 1: there you go. Um, I wanted to talk about the

679
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Speaker 1: six wins. I mean, you just go through and and

680
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: just pure logic. You've got the Dolphins twice and all

681
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: that's presumptuous, but they're probably in a down year. You

682
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: figure you split with the Jets. They're a young team

683
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: with a young quarterback. I think we bolstered the defense,

684
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: definitely bolstered the offense. Um, we got to steal a

685
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: few from the AFC North and I see the path

686
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Speaker 1: to seven very easy. And listen, don't strike me with lightning,

687
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: but I think ten wins is completely reasonable as well.

688
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Speaker 1: How do you think they bolstered the defense? How do

689
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Speaker 1: they bolster the defense? How did they You said that

690
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: you thought the Bills got bolstered their defense a little bit?

691
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: How do you Where do you see that? So they're

692
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: gonna get Matt Milano back, right, Karen Johnson, They're going

693
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: to get back. I'm sorry with the injuries those are shortened.

694
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Speaker 1: You got a couple of rookies that are going to develop,

695
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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds as well as Harrison Phillips. And there's there's

696
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Speaker 1: smoke around I don't know if you want to call

697
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: it smoke around the d Oliver at nine. So right,

698
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: they brought brack EJ. Gaines as well from two years ago,

699
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Speaker 1: which I think he's gonna have a tough time getting

700
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Speaker 1: on the field with Levi Wallace. Sorry Tasker, Yeah no,

701
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: that's all right. You're right. So I was just going

702
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: to make sure you could. You're right, and I agree

703
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Speaker 1: with you. It is for people who were watching the team,

704
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: and it's easy to get optimistic bills. We see him

705
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: make all these changes and at the places where they

706
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: needed to make changes, and and we kind of supersed

707
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: and superimpose positive vibe on whatever change they make, thinking

708
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: how could it. It's not going to get worse, It's

709
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: got to get better. Sometimes that's not the case, as

710
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: we saw last year, but you know, at this point,

711
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: that's where we're all at. I think it's right to

712
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: be optimistic. I think it's right to be optimistic. And

713
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just I'm really optimistic. And also

714
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Speaker 1: another funny thing about being down here is they've got bills. Pills.

715
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: Pills are over at total wine. Uh, I go pick

716
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Speaker 1: that up beforehand, too, So it's pretty cool. But that

717
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: smoke around at Oliver reminds me of the delicious smoky

718
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: flavor of Papa Ray's vesical also available at Total Wine Plan.

719
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Speaker 1: And let you guys know, we appreciate you and uh

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Speaker 1: we'll be listening. Thanks, Jeff, appreciate it all right, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: Jeff got a wine Jones. I think he's got a

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Speaker 1: wine product that he's promoting. The yeah wow, came out

723
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Speaker 1: of nowhere. Jeff thirteenth bank, thirteenth ranked electrician in the

724
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Speaker 1: Borough of Queens. Very nice. I'd like to know when

725
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Speaker 1: number twelve is Trevor in Miami's on the line. Hello, Trevor, welcome, Hi,

726
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: how you doing? Okay, go ahead. But so the way

727
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: I look at it, it is, you know, the defense,

728
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna sood as they were last year. Diver take

729
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, but certainly they will get off to

730
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Speaker 1: as bad at a start as they did last year.

731
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Speaker 1: So my thought is is with the mess that the

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Speaker 1: offense was, which we you know, can't even really go

733
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Speaker 1: into all of the things that we're going wrong there,

734
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Speaker 1: I don't see how they unless there are some weird

735
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Speaker 1: extenuating circumstances, I don't see how they can improve over

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Speaker 1: those six wins from last year, and if if they

737
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Speaker 1: don't get extenuating circumstances that it would explain the only

738
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Speaker 1: six wins, um you know, they would have to they

739
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: would really have to take a hard look at Okay,

740
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: if we have a you know, people cooking the meal here,

741
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Speaker 1: because the way I look at it, the way the

742
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Speaker 1: offense was last year, it can't be any it can't

743
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Speaker 1: be any worse as long as everything all people stay

744
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: reasonably helping, right And is there is there any scenario

745
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: you could see Trevor that the team could obviously be

746
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: obviously play better, appear better, be more functional on offense,

747
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Speaker 1: Have Josh Allen take a big step forward, have the

748
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Speaker 1: defense continue to be a top five defense? Could you

749
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Speaker 1: can could you see any of that or all of

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Speaker 1: that happening and then still win like six games? I

751
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think if Josh Allen, I mean

752
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: I have to. I have to assume if Josh Allen improves,

753
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: he and the defense stays as good because of the

754
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: weapons he has around him, they should be able to

755
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: squeak out a few more wins. But with that said,

756
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Speaker 1: I don't subscribe to the oh well, if you only

757
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: win six games, you need to clean house, right. I

758
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: do agree with your point before that, Hey, if they

759
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: win six games, but you look at the big body

760
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: of work and you say there were some weird things

761
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: that happen, but holistically we look you know, more functional

762
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: as a unit. Then hey, maybe you say, okay, we

763
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: can explain this away, right. But I think unless there's

764
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: really extreme extenuating circumstances, they're certainly gonna They're gonna certainly

765
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Speaker 1: improve over six wins. Yeah, I think so too. I

766
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: will say this, Trevor. I don't take anything for granted,

767
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And extenuating circumstances can mean

768
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot of things, you know, overtime losses, things we

769
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: gain't even countenance might happen, you know, a fumbling issue,

770
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: injuries is I think most of us think of so. Yeah,

771
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: you would think so. But they're no guarantees. And that's

772
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: what really makes the NFL compelling, right, is that you

773
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: really don't know how it's going to turn out. You

774
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: think you have a pretty good idea. The wise guys

775
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas think they're good for six wins. I

776
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: think they're good for more than that, maybe three more

777
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: than that. At least, but you don't know. And that's

778
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: why it makes it a good discussion point. I believe,

779
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: Yeah I agree, and yeah thanks for the call. I

780
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And the thing that gets me is you

781
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: talk about extenuating circumstance thing or what could possibly well,

782
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, you think back about all the things that

783
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: have happened to clubs around the league who have gone

784
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: through this where you know, one guy gets injured or

785
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: two guy gets injured, and you think about what happened

786
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis Colts about five or maybe seven eight years

787
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: ago when Chuck Pagano got sick. You know, I mean

788
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's the weirdest thing. You know, weird

789
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: stuff happens. But I you know all that aside, you know,

790
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: it's this is a team that there's no question, optimism

791
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: runs really high with what they have done in the offseason,

792
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: and expectations are elevated, particularly for fans of this particular team. Certainly,

793
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like that as we saw from these

794
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: Vegas numbers, we're giving them six wins. You know, they

795
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: you know that we're by ourselves as as Bills fans.

796
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: You know that we're the only ones who have any

797
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: faith that the Bills have made the right moves in

798
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: this offseason, because people like the guys in Vegas think

799
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the national perception is exactly what it has been. They're

800
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: gonna be a mediocre too, below five hundred team. Yeah,

801
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: and keep in mind where we are in the off season. Two, right,

802
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: get to happen. The schedule isn't released yet, and those

803
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: those things will change. I believe that that six win projection,

804
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: I believe it will change. Maybe it won't, but it's

805
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: a function of where we are. We're about the midway

806
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: point of the off season with a lot to happen,

807
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, a lot to happen in the next couple

808
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: of months. And they don't even start working out on

809
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: a casual, unofficial, voluntary basis for another week and a half. Right,

810
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: and thinking about this, we're two weeks or whatever, three

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Speaker 1: weeks away or four weeks away. I guess from the

812
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: draft from key key players being picked, Guys who are

813
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: gonna you know, those top couple of picks in your draft,

814
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Speaker 1: You're gonna they're gonna be. They're gonna be celebrities, at

815
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Speaker 1: least for one year. They're gonna be. Guys. People are

816
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: looking at to see what they do. And we don't

817
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: even know who those guys are gonna be. We don't

818
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: even know what position they're gonna be. There's a lot

819
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: of mock drafts out you can go down the list,

820
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: and I saw one today. Quinnon Williams thinks he's They

821
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: think Quinnon Williams is gonna be the guy, the top

822
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle in the draft. Yeah, they think he's gonna fall. Yeah,

823
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: they think he's gonna fall down to us. Okay, whatever,

824
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: But we still don't know. So there's a lot of things,

825
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: a lot of water that has to go under the

826
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Speaker 1: bridge before we know what this season's gonna look like.

827
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Speaker 1: Let alone, who they're gonna play an opening day, what

828
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: that first month of the season's gonna look like, where

829
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: the bye week's gonna be. Are they gonna have a

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00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: Monday night football game in the first month? YadA, YadA, YadA,

831
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: all that stuff. There's a lot a lot that has

832
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: to happen before we even know what this team's gonna

833
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: look like. Talk more about this. Six wins enough, that's

834
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Speaker 1: what the Las Vegas sports books say. Bills are good

835
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Speaker 1: for six wins. What do you think of that phone

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Speaker 1: line's open at eight oh three five fifty or toll

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Speaker 1: three from outside Buffalo one eight eight fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy was Steam Tasker One Does Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

840
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show One Does Live. John Murphy,

841
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker talking about six wins. Don't the Bills seven

842
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: in them to win more than that? We'll continue that discussion.

843
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: But this just has happening now, Stephen. This well, no,

844
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: it's inaccurate. It's been rumored and talked about for a while,

845
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: but it looks like it's going down now. The demise

846
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: or at least suspension of operations for the Alliance of

847
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: American Football. The majority investor, Tom Dundin has called for

848
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: a suspension. They'll have a conference call coming up in

849
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: the next few minutes with league officials Pro Football Talk

850
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: reporting that they're going to suspend operations. They're not done yet,

851
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: but apparently they're going to suspend operations for a while,

852
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: kind of regroup financially. The Alliance of American Football when

853
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: it opened a month or so ago, five weeks ago,

854
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: good ratings, good reviews. People seem to like what they

855
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: were seeing. You still watch games? I don't haven't. I've

856
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: watched a couple early on. I haven't watched any in

857
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. They're competitive, they'll suspend all football operations.

858
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: Let me just read you this from Pro Football Talk.

859
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: The Alliance of American Football ready to suspend all football

860
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: operations like immediately, like in the next few minutes here

861
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: and the league not folding yet, but it seems to

862
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: be moving in that direction. It comes in the aftermath

863
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: of ominous comments from Tom Dundon, the man who stepped

864
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks ago and became the majority

865
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: owner when he committed two hundred and fifty million dollars

866
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: last night. A source told Pro Football Talk to the

867
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: Alliance needed roughly twenty million dollars to get to the

868
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: end of its first season. Instead, they'll lein with two

869
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: weeks left in the regular season and a fourteen postseason.

870
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: That never happens. Well, the Alliance so so many good

871
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: people involved at the start. If they can't make it,

872
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: who can, right? And here's something Another guy chiming in

873
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: on Twitter, Benjamin Albright, who says the the American Alliance

874
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: of American Football is not in any danger of folding.

875
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: They're just trying to leverage for the NFLPA cooperation in

876
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: securing players. It's hyperbole though, Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah,

877
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't either. I mean he's uh so, we'll see,

878
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean we've said, we've heard that.

879
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: You know, let's face it, and Bill Polian had it

880
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: right from the very beginning. It's all about the football.

881
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: And when you're talking about it all being about the football,

882
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: it's not about gimmicks. It's about being an NFL style

883
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: league that has competitive games. That's what the AF is.

884
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: But to do that, they need players. And if they

885
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: can't get players, um, they're done. You know. That's what's

886
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: that's what's holding them up right now. The NFLPA is

887
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: not on board with the AAF and it's that simple. Uh.

888
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what the solution is. I don't know

889
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: what the AA, I don't know what the NFLPA. Uh

890
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: what their beef is with given players, well a chance

891
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: to play came out last week that those uh, I

892
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: believe it's about the January signings, right, those signings the

893
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: teams do right after their season and signings the a

894
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: the Alliance wanted those players to be eligible to play,

895
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: and the union, the NFLPA prohibited that they never reached

896
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: a deal. Um, well, if you're about player development, how

897
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: does this thing not work? Right? And if you're at

898
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: the associate the union and we'll talk. We talked a

899
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: little bit with Lorenzo about it last Friday, But how

900
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: do you as a union, don't you want to have

901
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: more players develop and become potential pro football players. Instead

902
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: they stand in the way of that. Why And I

903
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: don't know why the AAF players aren't part of the

904
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: union anyway, you know, because when I was and I'm

905
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: guessing on the last guy to think, when I remember

906
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: when we're in this eighty seven players strike, we were

907
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: part of the Teamsters union, you know what I mean.

908
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: We were kind of affiliated with them. I don't know

909
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: why it can't be the same across those two leagues,

910
00:44:54,040 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: where you know, the n AAF guys are unionized alongside

911
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: the NFL guys. It's a tragedy, well, a football tragedy, right,

912
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: supposed to be a developmental league and the young guys

913
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: are not. Some of them are not eligible to play,

914
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: not gonna be elgible. And I'm not gonna. I don't

915
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: want to vilify the union. I mean that I want

916
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: to hear what their reasoning is and why is it

917
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: not going to work for them? You know, because I'm

918
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: with you, Murph, I think, well, gosh, you want to

919
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: give these guys a chance to play? Um, I don't know,

920
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: all right, it's unfortunate. And I'll say this too though,

921
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: I don't know why these players that they're talking about

922
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL, or that the league is talking about.

923
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: This is why there's there's a little smoke here. Why

924
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: would whatever was there a dozen two dozen of these

925
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: guys that we're talking about wanting to play in the

926
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: AF or maybe those guys, those guys are gonna make

927
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: the difference, right, Why are they going to make the

928
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 1: difference for this league? And like the guys that are playing,

929
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: aren't you know? I mean because the games look competitive.

930
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking the infusion of what say,

931
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: one guy from every team, thirty two guys around eight

932
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 1: teams are gonna make a big difference in that league

933
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Is it going to change the

934
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: football that much? I don't know. I don't know, I

935
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't And so I don't know whether

936
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't know whether this is all smoke and mirrors

937
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: for the AF or whether they really are headed down

938
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: a road that they can't win up. But I'll tell

939
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: you this, I'm with you. If that league can't make it,

940
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: XFL has absolutely no chance. Nobody has a chance, Nobody

941
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: these people running the alliance, I mean in the structure

942
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: they had, the way they set it up. We've seen

943
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: in our lifetime, all the way back to the US

944
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: back in the early eighties or early seventies, the World

945
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: Football League, World Football League, the USFL, the XFL, all

946
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: these other leagues, NFL, Europe, the Canadian Football League had

947
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: teams down all of this stuff. All these leagues tried

948
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: to get it, and they all had all these issues,

949
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: and they were different issues for every team, every league,

950
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: and this AAF tried to address everything. They really had

951
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: it down to a science, right. They had all the

952
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: answers for all the questions that struggled, made those other

953
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: leagues struggle. They answered all those questions and it still

954
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: didn't work. It still may not work easy that Yeah,

955
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't get it. It's really strange. The Vegas sports

956
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: books have the bills with six wins this year. That's

957
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: their projection. What do you think of that? We'll talk

958
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: more about that in the second hour of the show

959
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: coming up. Give us a call. We'll like to hear

960
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: what you think. Six wins? Is that enough? Are they

961
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: gonna win more than that? Eight oh three oh five

962
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

963
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: five fifty. Steve and I back with more on One

964
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio

965
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: Collow Bills Radio Network Stories Stop Date Deep Date from

966
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: One Bills Drive, where the Bills are just a little

967
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: bit less than two weeks away from having their players

968
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: back to begin offseason workouts at Denver. Broncos began their

969
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: offseason workouts today, joining the Browns, Dolphins, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

970
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: who begin their programs yesterday. Teams that hired a new

971
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: head coach after the end of last season. Maybe you

972
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: in off season workout programs this week. The Cardinals, Bengal Packers,

973
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: and Jets elected to start their workouts next week, and

974
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: the rest of the league can start on April fifteen.

975
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: The Bills projected to win six games according to a

976
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: Las Vegas sports book CG technology. Only two other teams

977
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: had fewer projected wins, the Cardinals and the Dolphins. Were

978
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: talking about that today on the show. Six wins projected

979
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: by Las Vegas Sports Book for the Bills this year.

980
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: Is that enough? We'll discuss more. The Detroit Lions have

981
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: reached agreement on a one year deal with running back C. J. Anderson,

982
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: giving the franchise the veteran back big back it's been

983
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: searching for since they chose not to re signed the

984
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt earlier thought season. This offseason, Cowboys not sure

985
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: when Randy Gregory will be able to play again, but

986
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: they've extended his contract through twenty twenty. In February, the

987
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: league suspended Gregory indefinitely for violating the substance abuse policy.

988
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: The All American Football League the Alliance of American Football Rather,

989
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: we'll suspend all football operations. It just happened moments ago.

990
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: The league not folding yet, but it seems like it's

991
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: moving in that direction. The move comes in the aftermath

992
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: of ominous from the majority owner of the league, Thomas Dundin.

993
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: He has the ability to pull funding and he just

994
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: may do that. The Alliance of American Football League suspending

995
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: its operations, not likely to finish this initial season. Sabers

996
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: in action Tonight day host Nashville the Key Bank Center

997
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: seven o'clock face off tonight. Jack Archel has nine points

998
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: in seven career games against the Nashville Predators. It's the

999
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: second to last home game for the Buffalo Sabers Thursday,

1000
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: their final home game fan appreciation night. And John Calipari

1001
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: has a great deal contract extension with University of Kentucky

1002
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: that we'll see him finish his career with the Wildcats.

1003
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: He can firm the news on his radio show last night.

1004
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: And that's the update from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy

1005
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, our number two of the show. How are

1006
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: we doing, Steve, You're okay with the show? Okay, Yeah,

1007
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm liking it every time because it's obvious that Bill's

1008
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: fancy it kind of the same way you and I do,

1009
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: which is there should be no surprise, I guess to us.

1010
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: But and it also is kind of a you know,

1011
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: concession that they kind of this direction the world's headed

1012
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: with legalized sports gambling. But I also think I got

1013
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: to remind you that I'm pretty sure this is right.

1014
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, these numbers, though, these projected win totals for

1015
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: NFL teams by this Vegas sports book are about their

1016
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: sports books perception of what where people will bet, because

1017
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: if they put a number too low or too high nationally,

1018
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna get crushed on one side of that number

1019
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: or the other. So if you put that number, if

1020
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: you said the Bills we're gonna win like, say, three games,

1021
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: Bills fans would bet the house and everything in it

1022
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: on the fact the Bills are going to win more

1023
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: than three games. So they've try and pick a number

1024
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: where they're going to get half the money on one side,

1025
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: half the money on the other. And that's and but

1026
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: they do it nationally, not just in Western New York.

1027
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: So that's where you're sitting at. And that's why you

1028
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: come to these like these numbers, these seemingly arbitrary numbers

1029
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: from a place in Vegas. So having said that, to

1030
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: hear the feedback we're getting from people on you know,

1031
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: hearing phone calls and Twitter and everybody we're talking to,

1032
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: is it's a little low for people who are really

1033
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 1: following the team. Hey, speaking of the Alliance of American Football,

1034
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Crack producer Jay Harris just let me know that Andrew Brant,

1035
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: who does the football or does the business of football

1036
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: for us on a regular basis, is going to come

1037
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: on later this hour to talk about the suspension of

1038
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: football operations for the Alliance. I mean, you and I, uh,

1039
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes ago talking about how does that happen? We start,

1040
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: We'll get the word from Andrew Brant. I'm certain he'll

1041
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: have the answer for us. He's on it. Yeah, he's

1042
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 1: he works at where's at the college Villanova? He runs

1043
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: the sports business at Villanova. He's on top of it.

1044
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: He's really impressive. I love talking to him because you

1045
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: can ask him really tough questions and he has really

1046
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: good answers. Yeah, um, and that's um. It's great. I

1047
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear because I gotta. We got to

1048
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: ask him about this a f Why of all the

1049
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: leagues who have folded, why would this one fold? Because

1050
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: it seemed to have all the answers. I'll talk with Andrew.

1051
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: Brent coming up a little bit later on this hour.

1052
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: I love to talk with you about the Bills projected

1053
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: six win total seems low, doesn't it? Give us a call?

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Speaker 1: Let's take a call here from Bob in lockboard. Hello,

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00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: how are you today? I'm doing fine, John, thank you

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00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: for taking my car. Sure, Rock you win, Steve. I

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00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: think they're gonna end up seven and nine this year,

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00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: but I think that would be vastly improved even from

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00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: last year. It's gonna take a while for the offensive wine,

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Speaker 1: the jellygether. Everybody's going to be new one liner at

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Speaker 1: a different position. But I think they got the perfect

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00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: coach and the perfect general manager. Well, people are better

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Speaker 1: than anybody we've made there last twenty five years. And

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Speaker 1: I like the idea of the culture. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: people that can that. We got people that we can

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Speaker 1: respect depend on, and I don't think they've had that

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Speaker 1: in the path with some of the players we had. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be beastly improved. Well, that's the

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00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: plan obviously, like every other team. And then here's the

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Speaker 1: thing I got for you, Bob, And this is something

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Speaker 1: that just occurred to me. Murphy, you can answer this

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Speaker 1: as well. Doesn't every NFL fan base think their number

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00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: is low this time of year? Yeah? Probably, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: don't we fall into the same categories most NFL fans

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Speaker 1: feel about their teams. Do you think the Dolphins or

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00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals feel like their team's only gonna win

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00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: five games. You know, I think they probably said, nah,

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00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: noa I We'll be able to squeak out more than that, right, right,

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna split with it the Dolphins. Hey, we're

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00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: gonna split with the Jets, split with the Bills, and

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Speaker 1: squeeze out another win or something, you know along the line,

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00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: a couple three more wins, four wins along the lines

1083
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, right, yep. So I guess if

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00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: you're if you're trying to fit in in the in

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00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: the real world, I guess we do, because there's no question.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that way, Bob? But call are you

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00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: still there? Yeah? Don't you think every team feels like

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00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: they're number is low at this time of year. Josh

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00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: Field is a proct example where a man at bot people.

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00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: I think that he's playing and he's really prepared himself

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00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: for the off season. He's a great competitor. But they

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00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 1: got the right people, and they got the right people.

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00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: They're leading them, and this is important. Yeah, we had

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00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: so many people will give them a big contract, they

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00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: did nothing, and they've gotten some kind of we don't

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00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: have those type of people, right, and you know, you

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00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: can't have somebody leave it at halftime because they doesn't

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00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: want to play. Who eat tires. I don't think we'll

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Speaker 1: have players like that, and that was distressing. You're right,

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Speaker 1: You're right. It's nice to have the financial and I

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Speaker 1: think one of the ramifications of that, and I've never

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Speaker 1: seen it. I don't know if other teams do it

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Speaker 1: the way the Bills are doing it these days. They've

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00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: done it the last I think they've done the same

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00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: thing the last well these last two off seasons, and

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Speaker 1: they're doing it to a certain extent this year too.

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00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are of a habit and I

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00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: think it's a good a good way of doing business

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00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: that they're giving a lot of guys one year deals,

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Speaker 1: maybe not starters, not like Josh Allen, Tremaine Edmunds and

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00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: those guys. When they get there, they're they're signing guys

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Speaker 1: up a long term. And there'll be some other guys

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00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: like Tredavious White that they're given extension. They'll give extensions

1114
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: too and pick up options on and all that. But

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Speaker 1: for the most part, a good part of their roster

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00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: are the right type of guys first of all, as

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Speaker 1: we all know with this culture thing that's going on,

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Speaker 1: but they're also getting like one year deals, one year

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Speaker 1: kind of prove it deals or one year deals. Though

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Speaker 1: if they come in and hit a home run, they

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Speaker 1: go on the free agent mark and say, wow, they

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Speaker 1: could hit they could really do well. It's enticing for

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Speaker 1: a lot of players, particularly that second tier player, not

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Speaker 1: the star, elite, high draft pick guys or the guys

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Speaker 1: who have already hit a home run and their second

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Speaker 1: contract or whatever, but some of these other guys that

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00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: are you know, something happened with their first team or

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Speaker 1: their second team, or they're just looking for a way

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Speaker 1: to really prove what they can do. They're signing a

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00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: lot of those guys, or a good chunk of them,

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Speaker 1: to one year deals. And I think it's a really

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Speaker 1: smart way to go to play into the personality of

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Speaker 1: an NFL player. They like to bet on themselves. They

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Speaker 1: like the idea is that listen, I can prove it.

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00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: You watch me, give me a chance, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to do it. And I think the Bills have tapped

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Speaker 1: into a segment of the NFL free agent market that

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Speaker 1: has served them well over the first couple three years

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Speaker 1: of this regime. Yep, thanks, very good to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in six wins. Oh you guys back

1141
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: in January saying I guess what I was really mistaken?

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00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: The gold in the Super Bowl. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: That'd be good. We'll take Yeah. Here's time in North

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Speaker 1: Town Wana. Hello, time you're on the air. Yes, hi,

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00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: how are you click? Let's to talk to you guys.

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Speaker 1: You bet I've been I've been a fan since day one,

1147
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: so obviously I've been around for a while and always

1148
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: the eternal optimists. You always feel optimistic about what's going

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00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: to happen in the coming years, and I feel pretty

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00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: strongly about this this team. You got to like the

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00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: moves for the offense that they made. Obviously the offensive

1152
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: line was horrible, but you still have chemistry to look at.

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00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: You got to get the chemistry together to have the

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00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: offensive line come together with their running backs and the

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00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: protection for the quarterback. I do believe that defense is

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00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: going to be just as strong, if not stronger, and

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00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: if they get a good pass rusher in the draft,

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00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be even better. That's that's

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00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: basically my opinion is important, and I see them jelling together.

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Speaker 1: If they can go four and four in the first half,

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00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: and I think they can do better in the second half,

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00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: the chemistry comes together and makes an offensive line gel

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00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: because that's very important. Good points, Tom, and your point

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Speaker 1: about first half second half. Just hard for me to

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00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: think about that not knowing what each half looks like

1166
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: right now, Yeah, we don't who's in the first half,

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00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: how many road games in the second half, who they

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00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: play and where and when that sort of thing. Um.

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Speaker 1: The other point, which I think Tom makes, which is

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00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: a really good point, is the chemistry question. Right there's

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00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: and on the offensive line especially, you're gonna have what

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Speaker 1: four new starters likely on the offensive line, you know,

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00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: at least three, maybe four new starters. How do we

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00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: know how they're gonna jel Steve, We don't. That's that's

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00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: a lot of work that starts April fifteen, tier, right,

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00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: They've got to come together. They got they don't have

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of time to do it. And one

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Speaker 1: other thing about it is, I don't even know if

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00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: they know who's gonna play where. I mean, certainly Mitch

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00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: Moore's probably gonna be your starting center, but who you know,

1181
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: what else I mean, Spencer Long's gonna play right guard,

1182
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: left guard, Who's gonna play right tackle? Are they gonna

1183
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: go with the guys they got, I mean, who's it

1184
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: gonna be. That's as big a question as anything, and

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00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: that's it's a great point. The offensive line is not

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00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: going to be a finished product, maybe not even on

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00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: opening day, even after all the off season where they're

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00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: gonna start working out, the four preseason games, all this

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00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: stuff that's going on, all the practice one hundred dozens

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Speaker 1: of practices they're gonna have before the season starts, it

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00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: may not be a finished product opening day. So that's

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Speaker 1: if everybody stays healthy, let alone, if you get a

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00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: guy tweak his ankle, he misses a week of practice

1194
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: during training camp, they gotta plug guys. You know, all

1195
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: that stuff happens. So yeah, I think that's a key

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00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: element to this whole thing, because, yes, we've all applauded

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Speaker 1: the changes they've made, and they may be the right changes.

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Speaker 1: They all might work out perfectly, but they still have

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions to add, sir. Inside the changes

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Speaker 1: that they've made, they have coaching changes to accommodate. Right

1201
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: brand new offensive line coach, brand new special teams coordinator.

1202
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Speaker 1: We think they're good hires, we think they're going to

1203
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: work out, but they are both of them first time

1204
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: coaches at that position. Bobby Johnson has never had a

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Speaker 1: whole offensive line group by himself as the head coach,

1206
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: as the position coach for that group, So that's something

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00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: that has to be uh. I mean, we're counting on

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Speaker 1: that to work. Are we counting on too much? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. There's always question marks with

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00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: any new season, and you know, sometimes the questions get

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Speaker 1: answered with a resounding yes, and sometimes they get answered

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Speaker 1: with a resounding no, it didn't. And most of the

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00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: time it's somewhere in the middle there. I think a

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00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: lot of the there's the problem is and it's like

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00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: I said at the beginning of the show, you get

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00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: these guys that parachute in after the fact and look

1217
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: at the results and say, you stunk the whole way.

1218
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: The thing about it isn't The reason everybody's so optimistic

1219
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: is all the things they've done so far make perfect sense.

1220
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: They seem to be quality players at the right positions

1221
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: at the right time for the right price. So when

1222
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: you go with that and you're doing all the right things,

1223
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: for all the right reasons. You've you hope and you

1224
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: anticipate that the results will reflect that. It doesn't always.

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Speaker 1: That's the frustrating part. New receivers coach, new quarterback coach. Yeah,

1226
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Speaker 1: I mean a lot has changed here right on the

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Speaker 1: offensive side of the battle, in particular. Jeff is on

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Speaker 1: the line from Depew. Hello Jeff, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Hey John, Steve Hi. My question is I remember when

1230
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Speaker 1: Jim Kelly came out. I mean he was great at

1231
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Speaker 1: Miami and everything, and with Josh Ellen, I think he's

1232
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: got the potential to be another Jim Kelly. What do

1233
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Speaker 1: you think looks like this year? I mean, you think

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Speaker 1: he'll be there? Well that's all you know, you talk

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Speaker 1: about a Hall of Famer. Yeah, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to talk about Josh Allen to compare him

1237
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: to any Hall of Famer, including the one who played here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he's gonna look like

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01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: Jim when he even if he plays his best in

1240
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: his and he reaches his full potential, he's gonna look

1241
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: different than Jim did. He's a bet much better runner

1242
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: than Jim was. He's built differently. His arm is as

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Speaker 1: good as Jim's was no question about it. I think

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01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna look like more some of the guys you've

1245
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: seen recently. I think he looks I think at this

1246
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: point of his career, he looks a lot like and

1247
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: he's built a lot like Ben Roethlisberger was when he

1248
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: had to take over for injury early in Ben's career.

1249
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: He's a big, strong athlete that can take a lot

1250
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: of punishment, and he's great at making plays off the page,

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01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, running around, making throws, that kind of thing,

1252
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: much like Ben Roethlisberger did with the Steelers. And the

1253
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: thing that Ben Roethlisberger had going for him that Josh

1254
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: Allen didn't have last year was a running game. Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger had Jerome Bettis and maybe the best offensive line

1256
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: in football working with one of the best defenses. So

1257
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: they had all this other stuff in place in Pittsburgh

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01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: that allowed Ben Roethlisberger to kind of drop back, push

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Speaker 1: guys off, avoid the pressure, and then just make a

1260
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: play off the page with guys like Mike Wall Listen

1261
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: those guys, and they went to and won a Super

1262
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: Bowl or two doing that. Now Ben has obviously learned

1263
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: a ton of stuff since then. He's a much different

1264
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: quarterback than he was in his first year. But that's

1265
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: where I see, you know, Josh Allen att a kid

1266
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: who can kind of do some things physically, but also

1267
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: uses his athleticism and his physical gifts to kind of

1268
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: make things go less and less. He's going to have

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01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: to do that. Theoretically, he's going to be able to

1270
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: drop back, look at the safeties and know, you know,

1271
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: and know on the run after the snap where the

1272
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: ball is going to go, make a decision and take

1273
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: an easier throw. I think that's one of the other

1274
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: things he struggles with, taking the easy throw. Yep, thanks

1275
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: for your call. One more calling this segment, we'll go

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01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: to Steve and West Seneca. Hello, Steve, Welcome to the show.

1277
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: How are you doing, guys, it's nice to talk. Yeah. Yeah,

1278
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit optimistic, more

1279
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: so than Vegas' ads. I think, well, we could improve

1280
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: next year, and there's more whole for them. There is

1281
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Sabers, and I'm hoping for improve offensive

1282
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: line and Helen getting a little better and looking for

1283
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: to the draft and maybe helping the defense more so,

1284
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: and well, hang up, thank you for your time, and

1285
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: vote for a Steve Tasker to make the Hall of Fame.

1286
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: There you go, okay, um yeah, And that's the thing too,

1287
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, are we still killing those votes? And now

1288
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: we are not. That's that's off the board. The Vegas

1289
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: is taking those odds off the board. But yeah, he's right, yeah,

1290
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: there is. That's all we talked about, and we said

1291
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: it right after the season started, the off season started,

1292
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: and this season was over. It's hard to imagine a

1293
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: more optimistic six and ten teams than the Buffalo Bills

1294
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: were at the end of the regular season passed January.

1295
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: I kept saying to you off the air a lot.

1296
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: We're the happiest six and ten team in the NFL.

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01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: You know, we really, we really feel good about where

1298
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: we're heading. People feel better now. And Letten, think back

1299
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,959
Speaker 1: if you people who are here in Buffalo and around

1300
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: who came to games in Buffalo and watched this team

1301
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: play or watching them on TV, and we're attentive to

1302
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: what was going on during the season, all the details

1303
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: and the nuances that all of us kind of keep

1304
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: track of. It's the first time in a long time

1305
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: that man, I could not wait to watch that guy play.

1306
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: I could not wait to see Josh out behind a

1307
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: bad offensive line with no running game, where you know,

1308
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: we weren't really the better team that you thought, you know,

1309
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: maybe probably not go this is gonna be a struggle

1310
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: for us to win this game. I still couldn't wait

1311
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: for that team to take the field. I don't want

1312
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: to see that guy play, and I and now the

1313
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: team is built starting to be built around him. They've

1314
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: made some moves that really looked to be tailored just

1315
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: for what this team needed. They got ten draft picks

1316
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: coming up. I mean, it's just I just can't wait

1317
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: to see more of this, right Yeah, I don't know

1318
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: if they're gonna win or not, but man, oh man,

1319
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: it was when that guy was on the field, I

1320
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: couldn't take my eyes off this team. And that's kind

1321
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: of a fun place to be. I don't know what

1322
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: it was like when in eighty I was here in

1323
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: eighty six, but I don't know what it was like

1324
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: when in that year for the f hands of watching

1325
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: or were they were they excited about seeing Jim Kelly

1326
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: and those guys play a little bit more. I don't know,

1327
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: because that was before Thurman Thomas, before James Lofton, before

1328
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: Shane Conlin, you know all those guys. So you know,

1329
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: it took a couple of years for that crew to

1330
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: get up up to speed. You know, it's like eighty

1331
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: eight before they really hit their stride. And I think,

1332
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, it must have been at some point for

1333
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: fans that same kind of thing at some point, Right,

1334
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: wasn't night Wasn't wasn't until ninety eight or eighty eight

1335
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: until the people start Steve right, I mean his first game,

1336
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: somebody they had a banner up in the stadium that said,

1337
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: Kelly is God. Yeah, so what does that tell you?

1338
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: People were ready? And it was the same team that

1339
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: wasn't one to nine the week before, right during that

1340
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: season the year before, two and fourteen the year before.

1341
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, people, I mean they're desperate then, and

1342
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that level of desperation is here there.

1343
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: Two Bills are two years removed from a nine win

1344
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: season playoff birth. But people are hungry. I mean, the

1345
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: seventeen year drought still lingers. Don't you think still you

1346
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: still got a whole generation of people And then think

1347
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: about this too, Yeah, it's a crusher Yeah, but I'll

1348
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: tell you this too, and it's been the same thing mostly.

1349
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: We got a whole generation of people and then some

1350
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: of my kids, included my younger ones, they don't remember

1351
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: what it's like when this town's behind one of the teams. Yeah,

1352
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: the Sabers and the Bills. Man, when you get and

1353
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: you still get a glimpse of it in the Jacksonville

1354
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: playoff game down for one week. Right, it was a brick.

1355
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: We didn't know we were in. We knew it and

1356
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: a week later done. So we had like one week

1357
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: of it. Think about we got a whole generation of

1358
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo people that have lived in this city and don't

1359
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: know what it's like to go through three and a

1360
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: half months of that. Yeah, there's nothing like it, nothing

1361
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: like it. Hopefully it's in the future. Hey, the draft

1362
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: is in the future. Three and a half weeks away.

1363
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the draft when we were returned.

1364
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: Who's the biggest draft steals in Bill's history. We'll discuss

1365
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: that when we come back. John Murphy was Steve Tasker.

1366
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalta Health from One Bill's Drive.

1367
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. On the joke just going

1368
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: along today Steve Tasker, John Murphy and Steve Tasker One

1369
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: Bill's Life. Andrew Brandt MMQB Weekly Columnists, does the business

1370
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: of sports, the business of the NFL. He's going to

1371
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: join us in about ten minutes to talk about what

1372
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: the heck happened to the Alliance of American Football. They

1373
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: suspended operation today. I'm surprised and a little bit bummed

1374
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: out about that. Coming up a twosome draft talk with

1375
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: Andy Pauline, NFL draft analysts he Tony Pauline? Who's Andy?

1376
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: Was Andy? That his little twin Tony? Hey, This article

1377
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: a crossed our path today Steve. The biggest Draft surprises

1378
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: and steals in the history of the NFL. Henry McKenna

1379
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: wrote it, published it Draft Surprises eleven biggest steals in

1380
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: history of the NFL? Can I go through these for you?

1381
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: You can stop? Yeah, you've seen him. Joe Montana, He's

1382
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: gotten number right. Then I almost threw it into a

1383
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: garbage Antonio Gates tight end Kent State, the former basketball

1384
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: player number ten. I get that. No, Antonio, No, not

1385
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: a surprise. Steel. We're talking about steals here. Antonio Brown

1386
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Central Michigan Okay, Steel draft should have been

1387
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: he should have been like the eleventh Okay, you know,

1388
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: seven time Pro Bowlers, sixth rounder by the Steelers, Rogers

1389
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: starback quarterback, Navy tenth rounder in nineteen sixty four. Absolutely steel,

1390
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: absolute ste Remember stock course, kid me, you weren't too

1391
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 1: young when I was young, but not too young. Willie

1392
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: Davis defensive end, Grambling State, drafted in the fifteenth round

1393
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,959
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty six, so long ago. It's hard to evaluate.

1394
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: But here's a nineteen fifty six draft pick in the

1395
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: seven teenth round. Bart star quarterback, Alabama. Yeah, that's that's

1396
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: hard to argue that one. That's that he should be

1397
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 1: in the top five. Yeah, and he's number six one

1398
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: of the first two Super Bowls MVP in both number fifth,

1399
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: number five Kent Houston safety Prairie View A and m

1400
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers ninth round nineteen sixty seven. Okay he was. Yeah,

1401
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: he's great player. Number four all time biggest draft steals.

1402
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: Deacon Jones defensive end Mississippi Valley State, went to Washington

1403
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one in the fourteenth round. He's a Hall

1404
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: of Famer, eight time Pro Bowler. Yea, he was time

1405
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: defensive players. Yeah, he was a Hall of Famer. Yeah,

1406
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: that's that is an absolute steal. How about this one?

1407
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: Number three all time Draft steals. Ninth round nineteen fifty five,

1408
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers choose quarterback Johnny Uniteds out of Louisville, Super

1409
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: Bowl champion, three time manifas the thing I have a

1410
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: problem with some of the and Johnny Unitas is one

1411
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: of the few guys you'll hear guys from And this

1412
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: is my always kind of the acid test. You can

1413
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: laugh at me if you want to, because it's it's

1414
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: just me. I talked to guys from every era over

1415
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: the course of my experience in the NFL, from nineteen

1416
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: eighty five when I was drafted, all the way through

1417
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: to the present day. And you talk to guys, old guys,

1418
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 1: young guys. You know, great players, truly great players, legendary players,

1419
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: and just guys off this, you know, just guys who

1420
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 1: were in the league for a cup of coffee. And

1421
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: my assid tested when they talk about guys they've played

1422
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: with or seen or heard about it, and particularly the

1423
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: old guys, the ones you can always tell that we're

1424
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: really different, the legendary players, some guys they're like, hey,

1425
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: he was, are you know that? You know, they kind

1426
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: of dampled other guys. They always kind of go in

1427
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: they whisper, they start whispering. He and they, you know,

1428
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: and even the guys like Deacon Jones and all these

1429
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: older guys that I've seen, you know, Paul Horning and

1430
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 1: guys like that, when they talk about guys like Johnny Unitus,

1431
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, they talk about them in whispered tones. That

1432
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: guy was unbelievable. You know, they talk about them, their

1433
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: voice lowers and they get real respectful, you know about

1434
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: the guys they talk about, And Johnny Unitus was one

1435
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: of those guys. You know, we're he was like the

1436
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning of his day. He transformed the position. Somebody

1437
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: asked me, as Peyton Manning one of the greatest court

1438
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 1: He's probably not the greatest, but I'll tell you what.

1439
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: He was important because he changed the paradigm of the

1440
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: position at the era in which he played. Peyton Manning did.

1441
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: Johnny Unitis did the exact same thing back in the

1442
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: sixties when he played He became a film junkie. He

1443
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: was a guy who knew what was going on. He

1444
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: was ahead of the game on the passing game. He

1445
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: was one of those guys that was transformative for his position,

1446
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: which is why all those guys talk about him in

1447
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 1: hushed tones. And the thing that bothers me about it

1448
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: though he didn't even play for the team that drafted him,

1449
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh drafted him. He made his he made you know,

1450
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 1: he was famous for what he did in Baltimore. Of course,

1451
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: didn't he lose his job in Pittsburgh? Did Teddy marcher Broda?

1452
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: I think I think so. Yeah, we were teasing Teddy

1453
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: marcher Broda. We had somebody brought a trading card of Teddy,

1454
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: brought youer Broding. He looked six years old in his

1455
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: football card, Yeah, Teddy did. He even looks that way

1456
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: to today and he's late eighties. But yeah, but you know,

1457
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: it's funny that a guy like that, there was a

1458
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: steal like Johnny Unitus, he never played for the team

1459
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: that drafted him. And some of these guys get through

1460
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: like the You never know how good they could be

1461
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: until they get a fresh start with somebody. And I sorry,

1462
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to derail You're no no, Teddy Martin

1463
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: wrote a passed away a couple of years ago. Steve

1464
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: did you know you knew that January of twenty sixteen. Oh,

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01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Number two

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01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 1: all time draft steals Richard Dent, Tennessee State. He was

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: an eighth round pick of the Eagles, made his fame

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01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: with the Bears. I don't know people whisper about Richard Dent,

1469
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: but certainly respect what he did as an eighth round pick.

1470
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: And of course the number one draft steal has to

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01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: be Tom Brady right, sixth round, one hundred ninety nine

1472
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: pick overall in two thousand for the Patriots, maybe the

1473
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: greatest player in the history of the game, certainly one

1474
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks. We went into a little deeper

1475
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 1: and found a list. I don't know who put it

1476
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: together just for discussions sake. We're totally disowning it right now.

1477
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: Good suggestions here the all time draft steals for the

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01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. They have five of them. Here, I go

1479
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: five to one. Fifth ranked is Kyle Williams, fifth round

1480
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: or two thousand and six, of course, was wrapped up

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01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: his career twelve seasons in Buffalo. Strong piss for the list.

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01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: Pick for the list, Kyle Williams one of the one

1483
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: of the great Steel picks in Bill's history. Right, Oh yeah,

1484
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: fourth pick, fourth Steel in Buffalo Bill's Draft draft history,

1485
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 1: Mike Stratton thirteenth round, nineteen sixty two. Now, prior to them,

1486
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,839
Speaker 1: the common Draft, the AFL, NFL draft, they had deep drafts.

1487
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 1: They'd go seventeen rounds sometimes just to get players to

1488
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: lock them up so the other league couldn't sign him.

1489
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: So that's what makes Mike Stratton's thirteenth round selections sound

1490
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: pretty amazing. The third peas, there weren't that many teams either, right,

1491
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: so the round, you know, you could you know, for

1492
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: what ten or twelve teams that were in the league.

1493
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about everybody getting a first round

1494
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: pick in the second round. Okay, thing. So, third all

1495
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: time draft Steel in Buffalo Bill's Draft history two thousand

1496
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: and eight, seventh rounder Stevie Johnson. What do you think?

1497
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: He had a good couple of years here, six seasons

1498
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, thirty eight hundred receiving yards, twenty eight touchdowns,

1499
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: top ten among the Bill's all time receivers list. He

1500
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: was fun, He had a lot of fun on the field.

1501
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 1: Came out of Kentucky in the seventh round, two thousand

1502
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: and eight. Was he more productive than Mike Stratton or

1503
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams? So I have trouble with him? Well, yeah,

1504
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: he only played six years as well, so it was

1505
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: short lived. But he was productive when he was here

1506
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: and getting picked in the seventh round. Yeah, you'd you'd

1507
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 1: love to get that kind of production out of a

1508
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: seventh round or no question. Remember when I first met Stevie.

1509
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: He was here with the other draft picks in two

1510
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and they brought him in and paraded

1511
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: him to a I think it was a Bills a

1512
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: Bill's fan group meeting in the in the club where

1513
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: the press boxes now, and Stevie as a seventh rounder,

1514
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: they lined him up right, They had more than seven picks,

1515
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: but they lined him up. Stev at the end the

1516
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 1: line because he was a seventh rounder clearly outshone the

1517
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: others in terms of personalities and the kind of the

1518
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: winning smile and the great personality. On his first day here,

1519
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 1: you could tell that he was different. He wasn't your

1520
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 1: typical shy, you know, mild mannered seventh round draft pick.

1521
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: He was special. Yeah, he was good. Second Bill's all

1522
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: time steel pick sixty two nineteen sixty two defensive lineman

1523
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: Tom Sestak only played seven seasons here. Four time AFL

1524
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: All Star, two time AFL Champion. He's on the Wall

1525
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: of Fame, named to the all time AFL Team. Tom

1526
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 1: Sestak the second biggest draft steal in Bills history. I'll

1527
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: go along with that deep into the draft nineteen sixty two,

1528
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: seventeenth round Sestak. He's one of those guys, by the

1529
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: way that people whisper about Steve. People who played with

1530
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: him were around him. Paul McGuire did that. Oh yeah,

1531
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: he whispered. They whisper about Stack, called on whisper about anybody,

1532
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: but he did. He had a lot of respect for him,

1533
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,560
Speaker 1: no question. And the number one on this list, the

1534
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: number one draft steel in Buffalo Bill's history, former team

1535
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: eighty years, nineteen eighty five, fourth rounder, wide receiver Andre

1536
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: Reid out of Cutstown. Yep, you go with that. That

1537
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: was Steel. That's he is the He should be at

1538
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: number one on that list, fourth rounder going to the

1539
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame at that position, no question. Andre so

1540
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 1: I did broadcast all of his games here and during

1541
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: most of them anyway, during the course of his career

1542
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 1: back then mid eighty So he comes in in nineteen five,

1543
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: and you joined us here in eighty six. But those

1544
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: first two years eighty five, eighty six, by eighty seven,

1545
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: I would comfortably say to my partner then Van Miller, man,

1546
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: this guy's going to the Pro Bowl. This Andre Reid kid,

1547
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 1: this fourth round pick from Cutstown. He and you know what,

1548
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: I remember, he got better every offseason. He came back

1549
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: different body, different approach, different skill set. And so by

1550
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: the time he came back for like his third year

1551
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: in eighty seven, I was really confident in telling Van Miller,

1552
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: this guy's going to the Pro Bowl. Man, that's how

1553
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: good he is. This fourth rounder from a little tiny

1554
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 1: school in Pennsylvania. That's how good he was. You're right,

1555
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: I remember he spoke about at the beginning of the show,

1556
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 1: when you had today, you spoke to the kids at

1557
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: time and and told him, how you know, you gotta

1558
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 1: work hard at Andre Reid worked really hard. He was

1559
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 1: one of the guys that set the tone for that team.

1560
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: When your best players and your best workers, or your

1561
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: best guys in your building are working really hard, everybody

1562
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: else falls in line. And Andre was one of the

1563
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: guys like Jim and Thurman Bruce who set the tone

1564
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 1: for an entire organization. The best players on the field

1565
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: were the guys who worked the hardest. That's culture, you know,

1566
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 1: That's that's what it's all about. And Andre deservedly so

1567
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: goes in the Hall of Fame after being a fourth

1568
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, that was an absolute steal. Came here

1569
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: in eighty five, seven time Pro Bowl. In his first

1570
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl he went was eighty eight, So let's say

1571
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: his fourth or fourth year. But by years two and three,

1572
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 1: I would see Van Miller. He was and it was

1573
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: always a preseason comment. Man, this guy's gonna go to

1574
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. That's how and it was. He was

1575
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 1: picked in the fourth round. Remember Chris Burkett was picked

1576
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: in the second round. So there's a little bit of

1577
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 1: that going on. They had, you know, some there was

1578
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: a dynamic there that Andrea had to overcome and he

1579
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: finally did when Jim started picking the guy that was open. YEP,

1580
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: sounds like a backhanded compliment there. What's going on with

1581
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 1: the Alliance of American Football. We'll talk with Andrew Brant

1582
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: from Monday Quarterback when we return. John Murphy was Steam

1583
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 1: Tasker One Bill's Live from one Bill's Drive on Buffalo

1584
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show, John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

1585
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: coming here from One Bill's Drive with our show One

1586
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. We're gonna talk about the draft with Tony Pauline.

1587
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: Coming up at two o'clock. A little bit of news

1588
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: today about pro football, the Alliance of American Football suspending operations,

1589
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: maybe the beginning of the end for the Alliance of

1590
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 1: American Football. The Alliance suspending all football operations. Nowhere on

1591
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: long term future? Joining us right now on the line, guy,

1592
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 1: we go through for answers when it comes to a

1593
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 1: football business. Who see is the MMQB weekly columnist, hosts

1594
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: of the Business of Sports podcast, the director of the

1595
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: Morad Center for Sports Law at Villanova University Andrew Brant

1596
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 1: on the line with us. Hello Andrew, John Murphy and

1597
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: Steve up here in Buffalo. Thanks for doing this on

1598
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: short notice, but we don't know who else to go

1599
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: to to answer our questions. Always good to be with

1600
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: you guys, and you mentioned my podcast. Two of the

1601
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: recent guests on the Business with Sports podcast have been

1602
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: Charlie eversaw son of Dick ever Saw, founder of the AAF,

1603
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: and Tom Dundon, the owner of the Carolina Hurricane, who

1604
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 1: came in and started funding it in week two and

1605
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: took on a CEO chairman role. So I encourage everyone

1606
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: to listen to these podcasts about a league that, apparently,

1607
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: according to report, is on its way to cease to

1608
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: exist today. Yeah, what happened Andrew? That started out with

1609
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: great promise, good people in charge, a great opening weekend

1610
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: the week after the Super Bowl, with pretty decent TV ratings.

1611
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: How did it all fall apart after two months? That's

1612
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: a great question. You know. That seemed like there was

1613
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,879
Speaker 1: a two hundred and fifty million dollars pledge from Dundon,

1614
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: but a lot of people misinterpreted that that they had

1615
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollars. No, no investors going

1616
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: to just throw that in there before they see how

1617
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: it operates, if they're involved, if they want to get

1618
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 1: more involved. So I think it was two hundred and

1619
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 1: fifty million tending if he wanted to stay involved and

1620
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: run the league, probably for a couple of years. But

1621
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: reports are that he spent about seventy million and he's

1622
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: pulling the plug, I guess because the ratings just didn't

1623
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,759
Speaker 1: match anywhere near the first two weeks of the season.

1624
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: You know, I think you had to expect against March madness.

1625
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: It's not going to do anything, and maybe a attendant

1626
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: figures sponsorships all below his expectations. There is a lot

1627
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: of news out there which I don't really know a

1628
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 1: lot about this app, that they were all invested in

1629
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,799
Speaker 1: this gambling app that never seemed to come to fruition,

1630
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: and maybe that's a big part of this. But again

1631
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: the reports are that ever saw who I had on

1632
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 1: the podcast when it first started, and Bill Polian, the

1633
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: two co founders of the league, wanted desperately to keep

1634
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:24,799
Speaker 1: this going, and Dundon, who's the money man, has decided

1635
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: to pull the plug. Do you make anything about the

1636
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 1: players and the acquisition of players from the union. There

1637
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: has been some always been some smoke over the last

1638
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: couple of weeks about the union not being on board

1639
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: with the league and not letting players who are signed

1640
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,560
Speaker 1: a futures contract go and play in the AAF. Is

1641
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: there anything to that that would affect this, Yeah, we

1642
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: think that's part of it. And you know this is

1643
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: where hiring Bill Polian and other NFL people who got

1644
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: Till Savage in there a lot of people, I know,

1645
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, you would think would grease this good towards

1646
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: a good, positive, strong relationship. And maybe they did have

1647
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 1: that with the league side, but now we talk about

1648
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: the player's side, and you hear about players Union pushing

1649
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 1: back on whether these guys can go back and forth

1650
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: to league and teams and they want to be involved

1651
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: in it, and now we're talking about bargaining and next

1652
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 1: bargaining it's really not till twenty twenty, so yeah, you

1653
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: can see this being part of it too. Where again,

1654
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: I go back to Dundon. He's a smart guy. He

1655
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:34,799
Speaker 1: owns the Carolina Hurricanes, and he you know, he saved

1656
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,719
Speaker 1: the league, which is really sort of the unwritten story

1657
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 1: here that they got to Week two and needed a

1658
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: cash in fusion and now he's decided, you know, I'm

1659
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: done with the cash in fusion. Andrew doesn't seem to

1660
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 1: look good if the Players Association is not in support

1661
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,560
Speaker 1: of player development here, which is what I thought the

1662
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: alliance was primarily about. Does it especially a couple of

1663
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 1: years out from the next CBA. Yeah, I mean this

1664
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: one probably needs to be flushed out more. And I'll

1665
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: try to get Dune in back or ever saw back

1666
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 1: on the podcast, because I'm in the same camp as you,

1667
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: like everybody's worried, you know, on the same side here

1668
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 1: of the players. So what's going on? And I do

1669
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: think the real issue here becomes developmental And I was involved,

1670
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 1: as you know, with the NFL your World league, in

1671
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: NFL Europe, and it was always kind of a push

1672
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: poll between business and developmental. And you know, if they're

1673
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: looking at this as a business model, maybe they're you know,

1674
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: it's not a good one. But if they look at

1675
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: it in developmental sense, it is a good one. And

1676
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,600
Speaker 1: there's always the question of and you can debate this

1677
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: on your show, whether a marginal player is better off

1678
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: signing and an NFL offseason workout program to probably get

1679
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: cut in August or to do this. And that's the

1680
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: debate we had in NFL Europe. We had the hardest

1681
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: time getting NFL teams to send US players because they'd

1682
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: rather have them in their program in the spring. One

1683
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: of the questions that keeps coming up, and you said it,

1684
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: You've been involved in these leagues before. If this league

1685
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 1: doesn't make it, who can that's the question. Well, Steve,

1686
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: I do give the XFL a better chance, and I

1687
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: have from the beginning, and it comes down to my specialty,

1688
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: which is business. There are so many investors in this AAF.

1689
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: I just thought this isn't gonna work because there's former players,

1690
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, Justin Tuck and other players, and there's former management,

1691
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: and of course there's Poleyan and like everybody's got a

1692
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 1: different feeling. I would think about where they want us

1693
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: to go, and I just mentioned it business verse Development.

1694
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 1: Now next year XP twenty twenty. Here's their advantage. They

1695
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:07,879
Speaker 1: got one investor. One investor, right, So it's Vince McMahon

1696
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: and he just sold off I think half a billion

1697
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: dollars of ww stock. He is extremely well funded. And

1698
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: that means one mission, whether it's to make you know,

1699
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: fun and schlockey foot uh, you know, gimmicks. Fine, but

1700
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: it's one mission. So I give them a real shot.

1701
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: And friend of mine, Oliver Luck is commissioner, and he

1702
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: didn't leave number two job at the NCAA for something

1703
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: that wasn't going to happen. Yeah, I do think they

1704
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: got a real chance. We talked to Alibert, right did

1705
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: the Yeah we did. He was on our show and

1706
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: yeah he's and I was a former teammate of Allies

1707
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 1: and he and you're right, he's a sharp guy and

1708
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: he's not gonna jump onto something that doesn't have a

1709
01:25:56,160 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: real good foundation for being successful. Andrew is it two? Yea?

1710
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: Go ahead? I'm sorry, Yeah, I mean he's lesser known,

1711
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: are probably better now for being Andrew's father, but he's

1712
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: accomplished a lot. We were general manners together in NFL

1713
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: europeoy that Yeah, there is it too soon to write

1714
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: the obituary for the alliance and kind of blame springtime football.

1715
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: You know you mentioned it right up the hop here

1716
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 1: about the ratings challenges and going against the nca basketball

1717
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: tournament this time of year. Maybe does this tell us

1718
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: a springtime football will not work? Does not work? Well,

1719
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,799
Speaker 1: it's funny because the reason it will work was happening,

1720
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: and that was withdrawal from football. Super Bowl ended this

1721
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: league's season, was I hope it is, but sounds like

1722
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: was February tenth, which is the weekend after Super Bowl

1723
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,560
Speaker 1: to the draft. So it had that nice window of

1724
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: NFL withdrawal, and that's why it was giving it hope.

1725
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: And you remember the twit her love it was getting

1726
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,879
Speaker 1: opening weekend and this is cool and it's real football

1727
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: and where we miss it. But I guess, like anything

1728
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 1: that fades and then I don't know what you had

1729
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 1: on TV before March Madness, but like anything, kind of

1730
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: the novelty wore off and people move on. Yeah, And

1731
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: I got one more question for you about the post

1732
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 1: that you wrote for MMQB I believe late last week

1733
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 1: about Rob Gronkowski's retirement. You know, he's a Western New

1734
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 1: York native here a Buffalo area native, and you maintained

1735
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 1: that Rob Gronkowski got a free pass from the media

1736
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 1: during his NFL career. What did you mean by that?

1737
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: I got a lot of angry New England media called

1738
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 1: me today. Who cares about it? Yeah? Yeah, it came

1739
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: out this morning and basically I just said, I'm giving

1740
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: him his due on the field. But do you know,

1741
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: I think you have to look at it as an

1742
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: outsider dude does Rob and Crosskey's kind of Gronk being Gronk, meathead, lovable,

1743
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 1: likable guy the party and kind of get a pass.

1744
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: And I know he's not doing anything illegal, and I

1745
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: know he's not beating up women, but just sort of

1746
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 1: pick a name and I don't pick a name I'll

1747
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: just let anyone who's reading him pick a name, and

1748
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: if they had the same off field activity would be

1749
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: would they be treated with such a lovable wink wink

1750
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 1: about this guy? So I just kind of raised the idea,

1751
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: and you know, I just think it's interesting from an

1752
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: observer standpoint, how he just got a pass on his

1753
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 1: off field behavior. If we set the bar pretty low

1754
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: when it comes to off field behavior, You're right, he

1755
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: never got arrested, he never got in trouble. I don't know.

1756
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think part of it is likability, which

1757
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 1: is an obvious statement. But you're likable, you get away

1758
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: with things like listen. I don't mean to make this comparison,

1759
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,919
Speaker 1: but let's just think in your mind, if Johnny Menzel

1760
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: was a great player, let's just imagine him being a

1761
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: great player. Would we give him a pass for the

1762
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: partying that's more than party with him? Though he said

1763
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 1: domestic violence, Well, I guess the hill was just parting.

1764
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm just trying to pick

1765
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: another name. Yeah, well there's no Yeah, he's one of

1766
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 1: a kind, no question about it. So I don't know

1767
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 1: that there is a readily available equal comparison to a

1768
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: guy that's had his success and then had his notoriety

1769
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: off the field, particularly given the fact that he was

1770
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: on a team that was always late in the season, postseason,

1771
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 1: a lot of Super Bowls, and a guy who you know,

1772
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,799
Speaker 1: that's kind of one of the stories in every offseason

1773
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 1: now is the celebration of the champions and you know,

1774
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: we got it with Aleksovetkin. We watched where he took

1775
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: the cup everywhere in the off season when he finally won.

1776
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: And Gronk being a guy on a on a great

1777
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: team who's mostly I mean, there are other good tight

1778
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: ends in the National Football League. Nobody had the kind

1779
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: of exposure with Gronkowski did because of the Patriots, So

1780
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to make a comparison to anybody else. But

1781
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: I do see your point. If it was a different guy, Yeah,

1782
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that he gets the same treatment that

1783
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: Gronkowski gets. Yeah, that was my point. And then listen,

1784
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, doing Boston Radio this morning, they they kind

1785
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: of raised their own issue about like Gronk's probably just

1786
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 1: cultivating this whole thing, you know, because it is a

1787
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: selling point. Maybe Gronk is a much more serious guy

1788
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: than we know no, so that as well. If he is,

1789
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: it is more than we know. He's hiding it. Well, yeah,

1790
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: he's hiding it. Well, Andrere, thanks for this short notice today,

1791
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: but it was we're just we're concerned about the Alliance

1792
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: and you cleared things up for it's a great deal.

1793
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You gotta guys take care and

1794
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: your brand weekly countness for the MMQB. You can look

1795
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: at his latest post he says it's today about why

1796
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: does Gronk get a passplay expansion is good? Etc. And

1797
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: of course his podcast that he talked about the business

1798
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 1: of sports podcasts, in which just recently he sat down

1799
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: with the principles of the Alliance of American Football and

1800
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,600
Speaker 1: talked about their league, which apparently is now on the

1801
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 1: verge of folding. We'll talk more about that. We'll talk

1802
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,759
Speaker 1: more about our topic of the day, the biggest wise.

1803
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 1: Guys say, the Bills are good for six wins this year?

1804
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? We'll continue that discussion

1805
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: in the third and five hour of the show. And

1806
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 1: some draft talk coming up with Tony Pauline, NFL Draft Analysts,

1807
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: the host of the Draft Analysts podcast. All of that

1808
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 1: coming up and what's going to be a busy hour

1809
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 1: number three, So come on back. One Bill's Live presented

1810
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 1: by Kalada Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

1811
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Hills Radio Network. Story date update from One

1812
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:40,879
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. News from the Alliance of American Football apparently

1813
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: ready to fold up the league apparently announcing today that

1814
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: they are suspend suspending operations, suspending all forthcoming operations. Then

1815
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:52,480
Speaker 1: announcement expected this afternoon. Not folding yet, but the suspension

1816
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: is coming. The move comes in the aftermath of ominous

1817
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: comments from a majority owner of the league several weeks ago.

1818
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 1: They are reportedly pulling funding. Just heard Andrew Brant talk

1819
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: about it. In the NFL offseason workhouse began today in

1820
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 1: Denver under new head coach Vic Fangio. The Denver Broncos

1821
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 1: can start to get to work this week, so they

1822
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 1: did today, joining the Browns, Dolphins, and Tampa Bay who

1823
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: began their offseason programs yesterday. The clubs that hired a

1824
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 1: new coach this year got to start this week. The

1825
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: teams that did not have to wait until April fifteenth,

1826
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: That's when the Buffalo Bills are schedule to begin their

1827
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: offseason voluntary offseason conditioning program. The Bills expected to win

1828
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 1: six games by Las Vegas oddsmakers, who released their book.

1829
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: CG Technology says the Bills are good for six wins

1830
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: this year. Only the Cardinals and the Dolphins have fewer

1831
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: wins five. The Patriots expected to win eleven games according

1832
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 1: to the wind projection by Las Vegas sports book. Detroit

1833
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 1: Lions reach agreement on a one year deal with running

1834
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: back CJ. Anderson today. The franchise now with the back

1835
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: they've been looking for since they chose not to resign

1836
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: the Garrett Blunt during the offseason. And the Cowboys not

1837
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 1: sure when Randy Gregory will be cleared to play again,

1838
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,719
Speaker 1: but they have extended his contract through twenty twenty. Set

1839
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 1: to become a restricted free agent after the upcoming season,

1840
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys will pay him seven hundred thirty five

1841
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in twenty twenty if he is eligible to play.

1842
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: He's been suspended indefinitely for repeated violations of the Substance

1843
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 1: Abuse Policy. Buffalo Savers home tonight. They are second to

1844
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: last home game of the year. They host the Nashville

1845
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 1: Predators tonight seven o'clock faceoff at Key Bank Center downtown.

1846
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: John Calipari now has a lifetime contract to finish his

1847
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 1: basketball coaching career at the University of Kentucky. Calipari had

1848
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: been in contact at UCLA about their vacancy, but he's

1849
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 1: going to stay at least for now with the University

1850
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: of Kentucky. That's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy,

1851
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. We're here until three talking about the Bills,

1852
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 1: talking about the NFL, a little bit about the Alliance today,

1853
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: and about the NFL Draft just three and a half

1854
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,839
Speaker 1: weeks away. We're on the line now with NFL Draft Analysts,

1855
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 1: the host of the Draft Analysts podcast, Tony Pauline. Tony,

1856
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: It's John Murphy and Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. Thank

1857
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: you very much for joining us today. Thanks for having

1858
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 1: me again. You got our attention because you wrote something

1859
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 1: that we actually kind of batted around a little bit

1860
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 1: here last week. What is the purpose and what is

1861
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 1: the value of Pro Days? We're right kind of wrapping

1862
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 1: up the Pro day season. I think around the NFL,

1863
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: what's the value of these days? Tony? Yeah, really just

1864
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 1: two more days of Pro days, and really it's it's

1865
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: more personal than the Combine. You know. Number one, it's

1866
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: a chance for players who maybe tested poorly at the

1867
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 1: Combine to get better marks. It's a chance for players

1868
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: who didn't run at the Combine or were two hundred

1869
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: to run to Combine for whatever reason to finally test.

1870
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: And really it's the opportunity for some of the three

1871
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five one of the guys who were

1872
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:38,760
Speaker 1: players who were not one of the three hundred and

1873
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 1: thirty plus invited to the Combine to work out for

1874
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 1: NFL teams. And then what happens is when you get

1875
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: into positions drills. Oftentimes teams, specific offensive coordinators or receiver

1876
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: coaches will request specific exercises or specific throws or specific

1877
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,600
Speaker 1: routes from players. They'll ask a quarterback to make us

1878
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: specific big throw that is, you know, very relevant to

1879
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 1: their offense, or a receiver to run a specific route

1880
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Speaker 1: that you know their team often runs to see how

1881
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: they can do it. So it's a bit more personal

1882
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: than the Combine. It is kind of personal, and each

1883
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 1: player kind of takes their own strategy. I've seen guy

1884
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: you go all the way back to well most recent history,

1885
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 1: like Johnny Manziel, he decides to throw in his pro

1886
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 1: day in a helmet and shoulder pads. Are there any

1887
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 1: strategies that have caught you by these players at their

1888
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 1: pro day that you thought have been really good or

1889
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 1: strategies that you've thought have been really bad. What strikes

1890
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: you about players who kind of set the agenda for themselves. Yeah,

1891
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: and you make a good point with Johnny Manziel because

1892
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 1: that was kind of off the charts at the time.

1893
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: You know, one trend that I'm seeing that I really

1894
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: don't like is players are not participating in position drills

1895
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: at pro days. You know, these scouts travel all over

1896
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: the world. This is all over the country, I'm sorry,

1897
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: all over the country, and really, this is one big

1898
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 1: job interview, and when you're interviewing for a job, you

1899
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: might as well make it as easy as possible for

1900
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 1: these guys. Like yesterday Byron Murphy and Taylor Route, the

1901
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 1: defensive backs from Washington. One guy's a mid first round choice,

1902
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,759
Speaker 1: the other guy's a second day pick. Didn't do position drills.

1903
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: So I think that sort of trend which we're seeing

1904
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 1: more and more. Nick Bosa didn't do position drills. Josh

1905
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: Allen didn't do position drills. Nick bos of Ohio State,

1906
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Kentucky. A lot of a lot of these

1907
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: guys are less and less doing position drills, which you know,

1908
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good thing. These scouts are

1909
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: on the road literally the month of March, going from

1910
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: city to city, town to town to watch these guys

1911
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: work out. You might as well make make their job

1912
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 1: easy for him and leave a good impression on them.

1913
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,560
Speaker 1: And my first question would be because if it isn't interpersonal,

1914
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: you get a chance to ask him. You got to say, well,

1915
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 1: why are you not doing position drills? I mean that

1916
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: it raises questions. It absolutely does, and I mean, you know,

1917
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: and this is basically new. I mean you go back

1918
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: to say Kyler Murray, who came to the combine, stepped

1919
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 1: on the scale, stepped off the scale, and that was it,

1920
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: and people couldn't stop talking about him as the number

1921
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 1: one pick of the draft. And then he goes to

1922
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 1: his pro day, doesn't do the forty, doesn't do the

1923
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 1: vertical jump, just throws. I mean, it's just part of

1924
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:14,759
Speaker 1: the process. And a forty for a guy like Kyler

1925
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 1: Murray pro day isn't overly important because we all know

1926
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:20,600
Speaker 1: he's fast, and we all know He's very quick and

1927
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: he can move, but to me, it just shows sort

1928
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: of a sort of a disrespect from the process. You know,

1929
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: scouts want to get these times, they need these times,

1930
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: and unless you're physically incapable of participating in these tests

1931
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: or the position jos, you really should on the line

1932
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Speaker 1: with Tony Pauline, NFL Draft Analysts, the host of the

1933
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 1: Draft Analyst podcast, Tony, we got a kind of a

1934
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 1: kick last late last week Ed Oliver's Pro Day at Houston.

1935
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,679
Speaker 1: The video comes out and there's Bill's head coach, Sean

1936
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 1: McDermott right in his face, and I got thinking that

1937
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 1: he is John sending a message to Ed Oliver, the

1938
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 1: Bills sending a message to the rest of the NFL.

1939
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean that that can't be just a mistake for

1940
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 1: McDermott to be standing right there when Oliver's going through

1941
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 1: his work count, or the fact that Oliver that the

1942
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: head coach is even out there. Yeah, at Texas Pro

1943
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: Day again. You know, they don't travel to places like

1944
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 1: Houston to watch a pro day for three or four

1945
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: hours because they've got time to kill. They they were

1946
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: going there for a purpose, and you know it was

1947
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 1: time well spent for the Bills because Ed Oliver really

1948
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: exceeded expectations. He was he was faster than people thought,

1949
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 1: he ran great shuttle times and you know, Ed Oliver

1950
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: has been all over the place. I think unfortunately, I

1951
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 1: thought he was rated too highly coming into the season

1952
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 1: when people thought he was gonna be the first pick

1953
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: of the draft, and never agree with that. And now

1954
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 1: people are saying or up until his pro day, people

1955
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:39,560
Speaker 1: were saying they part around one. I thought that was

1956
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 1: equally ridiculous. I mean, he's a very good player, So yeah,

1957
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 1: where they're sending a message, I think they were just

1958
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: out there getting, you know, as much as they could

1959
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 1: for their money for traveling down to Houston for the

1960
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:51,600
Speaker 1: pro day. Oliver last until the ninth pick. Do you

1961
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 1: think first round? I think the only time. I think

1962
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 1: the only team that may take him before the Bills

1963
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 1: is number eight Detroit. I think there's there's a possibility

1964
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: that he could take that the Detroit lines could take

1965
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: aet Oliver. I think the Bills are in play. I

1966
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: don't think he gets past the atlant at fourteen. Does

1967
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 1: he go before Quinton Williams, No, I know, I think

1968
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: Quinn and Williams is bigger, He's much more stout at

1969
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: the point. You know, quinn and Williams can beat opponents

1970
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 1: off the snout with the first step like Ed Oliver does.

1971
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,560
Speaker 1: But but Quinny Williams really doesn't get demolished at the

1972
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: point of attack in one on one blocking because he's stouter,

1973
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: he's stronger, he's bigger, and he's more of a three

1974
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 1: down player. I also think that quint and Williams can

1975
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 1: play in multiple systems. You can use him as defensive

1976
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 1: end if you play a three man line, you can

1977
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 1: put him inside as your three technique tacklers, or even

1978
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 1: on the nose in certain one gat systems. I think

1979
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 1: yet Oliver's a bit limited in that area. Tony Pauline,

1980
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 1: NFL draft analysts on the line with us. You've got

1981
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: a mock draft at as the bill is going to

1982
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 1: offensive tackle Juwan Taylor with their first pick. Tell us

1983
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 1: about that matchup. What do you see there? I think

1984
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 1: the Bills would like to upgrade their offensive offensive tackle position.

1985
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 1: You know, if you want Josh Allen to improve his

1986
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 1: game and developed as a quarterback, you'd better protect him.

1987
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,719
Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor is the number one tackle in this year's draft,

1988
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,679
Speaker 1: not by a whole lot. Probably just beats out Andre Dillard,

1989
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 1: the left tackle from Washington State, by by a little bit.

1990
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,719
Speaker 1: He's big, he's athletic, still a little bit rough around

1991
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 1: the edges. He's a dominant player, better off in a

1992
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 1: smaller area where I don't think he can play left

1993
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 1: tackle the next level. I think he's sure he's solely

1994
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: a right tackle, but I think he's a guy that

1995
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: there may be some bumps in the road. I don't

1996
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 1: know that he's going to be a Day one dominant starter,

1997
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 1: but I think by the end of his rookie year

1998
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 1: he'll be one of the best offensive rookies from the

1999
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen class. Jony Wee came at Stephen. I came

2000
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: back from the combine, and everybody's making fun of me

2001
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 1: because I admitted I was enamored of DK Metcalf and

2002
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 1: his combined performance. I've cooled off a little bit since then.

2003
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: But you were there. You reported on his pro day, right,

2004
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:51,759
Speaker 1: what did he do with his Pro day to follow

2005
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 1: up what he had going on with the combine? Well,

2006
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:57,719
Speaker 1: I mean his shuttle times and his three colne times

2007
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 1: were slightly better during proday than they were as a combine,

2008
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 1: which is really nothing great because his shuttle times and

2009
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,640
Speaker 1: his three cone times were terrible to combine. I mean,

2010
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 1: he's basically a very much a straight line athletic guy

2011
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 1: who's got great size, he's got great speed. In the

2012
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 1: forty he can get vertical and out jump of defenders

2013
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 1: to come away with a difficult reception. He's a great athlete.

2014
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: He's a decent pass catcher. He's a very raw receiver.

2015
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 1: He's the kind of guy that's got a lot of

2016
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 1: busts attached to him. The sky's the limit because he's

2017
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 1: so athletic and he's so much bigger than everyone else.

2018
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 1: But he really he's got you know, Sunday football, it's

2019
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 1: more than just running past people and beating down defenders

2020
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 1: to come away with the reception or jumping over him.

2021
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 1: You got to learn to separate through routes. You've got

2022
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 1: to learn to separate through your hand use. You've got

2023
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 1: to learn to catch the ball consistently. And he has

2024
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 1: a little bit of trouble with that. Can I compare

2025
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: him to the Perramian kid that came out of Central

2026
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: Forward a couple of years ago that the Baltimore Ravens

2027
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 1: took in the middle part around one. People were just

2028
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: enamored with the numbers, with the physical skills, and they

2029
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: kind of overlooked the flaws in his game as a receiver.

2030
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Speaker 1: I think that's the issue with DK Metcalf right now.

2031
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: Who do you think the top receivers in this draft are?

2032
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 1: You give me? Can you have top two or three? Well?

2033
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 1: I like Mark Keith Brown. He's a little bit smaller

2034
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 1: than a kid from Oklahoma. He's a Blazer, but he

2035
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 1: catches the ball very well. I actually like A J. Brown,

2036
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 1: who is DK Metcalf's teammate. He's got decent size, two

2037
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six pounds, not as fast, just got

2038
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:34,600
Speaker 1: under four four or five zero at the combine. But

2039
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,440
Speaker 1: he's a much better route runner. He's much more consistent

2040
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 1: catching the ball. He's a smart guy that knows how

2041
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: to come back into the zone to make himself an

2042
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 1: available target. Fundamentally sound catching the ball that you know

2043
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 1: that may not sound like much, but he's consistently extending

2044
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,679
Speaker 1: his hands to grab the pass away from his body

2045
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: out of the air. He does the little things well,

2046
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have because he doesn't have the downs

2047
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 1: field speed. He's not gonna beat teams vertically. But if

2048
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 1: you want a guy to run into idiot or shorter

2049
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 1: or shorter pass routes and catch the ball time, that's

2050
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 1: a j Brown. Deebo Samuel from South Carolina a similar

2051
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 1: type of guy, not as big, not as fast, but

2052
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: a guy that's very reliable. One other question I have

2053
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: for you the Bills pick at number nine in this

2054
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 1: year's draft. You mentioned the Detroit Lions maybe jumping up

2055
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 1: to get a defensive lineman ahead of Bills. Is there

2056
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: anybody else in the top eight picks before Buffalo picks

2057
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 1: that are absolutely definitely gonna go, say, for instance, defensive

2058
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: line or maybe one of the other or wide receiver

2059
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 1: one of the other picks of the Bills are looking

2060
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 1: for where they're gonna force the Buffalo Bills a number

2061
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Speaker 1: nine pick of the draft to pick maybe a second

2062
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 1: or third player, best player in this draft at that position. Well,

2063
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: I said that Detroit could take get Oliver. Detroit's got

2064
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 1: the number eight pick, Buffalo's got number nine, so Detroit

2065
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 1: doesn't have to move up. But I think those first

2066
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 1: eight picks before Buffalo is called to the clock, you're

2067
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be loaded. With defensive lineman. San Francisco

2068
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 1: could take Nick bos The New York Jets could take

2069
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 1: Quinnon Williams or Josh Josh Allen Kentucky the Oakland Raiders

2070
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: if they don't take a quarterback. You know, depending on

2071
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 1: who the Jets take, they may take the player that

2072
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 1: the Jets does it doesn't. It could be Quinny Williams

2073
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 1: or Josh Allen. Tampa Bay could take a defensive lineman.

2074
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 1: So you're going to have a lot of defensive lineman.

2075
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 1: You got Rashawn Garry. If Dwayne Haskins is not available

2076
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 1: to the New York Giants with the sixth selection, they

2077
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,560
Speaker 1: could end up taking Rashawn Gary. So you know this.

2078
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,600
Speaker 1: I've said this all along, going back to January. This

2079
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: has the potential to be a historic draft on the

2080
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 1: defensive line as far as not only the numbers that

2081
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 1: are selected around one, but the quality that we're going

2082
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 1: to see two or three years down the line. And

2083
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 1: it's going to load up the first the initial ten selections. Joony,

2084
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 1: I want to take you back to Old miss for

2085
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 1: a second. I think you have written that, yes, we

2086
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: know about Metcalf, we know about Brown, but there's another

2087
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver from All Miss who who want may be

2088
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 1: better than both of them, or at least a better

2089
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: prospect for this draft. Well, he had a better prote

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lodge. I mean Old Miss was loaded at the

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Speaker 1: receiver position with Metcalf and Brown and then de Marcus Lodge,

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Speaker 1: who kind of got lost in the shuffle. He's more

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Speaker 1: of a last day guy in the draft. He had

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Speaker 1: the best pro day and that's what I wrote about him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everyone was there to see DK metcals, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people there to say a J. Brown, But

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Speaker 1: as far as the parday was concerned, it was the

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Speaker 1: Marcus Lodge who really stole the show. Was impressive with

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Speaker 1: his route running, the ability to separate to catch the ball.

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Speaker 1: When you project him to the next level, when you

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Speaker 1: project him in the draft, you're looking at a last

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Speaker 1: day pick, sort of the fifth round. Got a type

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Speaker 1: of guy. When you project him to the next level,

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Speaker 1: you're looking at a number four, maybe a number three receiver.

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Speaker 1: Just needs to be more consistent on the field. Hey,

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Speaker 1: just a couple of other prospects. Ask you about the

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Speaker 1: Tony quarterbacks Kyler Murray to the Cardinals. Do we all

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Speaker 1: expect that's the way it's going because the Cardinals have

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Speaker 1: made noise about meeting with others. Right they met with Bosa,

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Speaker 1: I believe yesterday or the day before. Yeah, they're going

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Speaker 1: to go through the motions. I think right now it

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Speaker 1: would be a major shock if they don't take Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray with the first pick of the draft. Obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: they got to do their due diligence. They're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to meet with the Boses and what the quinnin Williams.

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Speaker 1: You gotta expect them to do that. I mean, because

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Speaker 1: if they don't and then Kyler Murray doesn't pan out,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a major red flag. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a red flag if they take him. He doesn't pan

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Speaker 1: out anyway, But they got to do their due diligence

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Speaker 1: right now, it would be a shocker if they didn't

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Speaker 1: take Kyler Murrays the first pick of the draft. Here's

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Speaker 1: my new favorite quarterback the last couple of weeks here

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Speaker 1: since they come or my new favorite question, Tony. If

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen were in this year's draft, where would he

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Speaker 1: go in this quarterback class? Good question? Uh, I think

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Speaker 1: he would go. I grade him higher than Dwayne Haskins.

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Speaker 1: Number number one. Dwayne Haskins is my number one rated

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Speaker 1: quarterback in this year's draft. That doesn't mean he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the first quarterback selected now. As far as Josh Rosen,

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen is a better passer. He's more NFL ready

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Speaker 1: than Josh Rosen. He's a little bit better between the

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Speaker 1: ears that than Dwayne Haskins. I should say a little

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Speaker 1: bit better between the ears than Dwayne Haskins also has

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Speaker 1: a bigger body of work. But Josh Rosen, you know,

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Speaker 1: going back to his days at UCLA and one I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing it even at Arizona, He's got a personality that

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01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 1: doesn't that rubbed some people the wrong way. That's why

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Speaker 1: he fell and the fourth quarterback selected last year. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, even though Dwayne Haskins, even though I think

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Speaker 1: that Josh Rosen would be great and higher than Dwayne Haskins,

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Speaker 1: still a chance that Haskins could be selected before Rosen

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Speaker 1: if they were in the same drafts. Do you have

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Speaker 1: a massive sleeper at any position in this draft that

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Speaker 1: you think is gonna come from nowhere or is gonna

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Speaker 1: slip down and gonna be an absolute steal for some

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Speaker 1: of these other teams. We've been talking about players who've

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Speaker 1: been steals in past drafts. Do you have one of

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Speaker 1: those in this one? Yeah, you know, just to kind

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Speaker 1: of go with a name. In fact, I'll go with

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Speaker 1: a guy that's up by you near you guys. I

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01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: like Jamal Custis of the receiver from Syracuse a bit.

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Speaker 1: I know he's a little bit east of you guys,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but he's still up north in New York

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Speaker 1: from where we are downstate. You know. He's a big,

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Speaker 1: tall guy, six four and chains two fifteen pounds. Ran

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Speaker 1: really did not do too much until a senior season

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Speaker 1: at the Syracuse had a good campaign last year, did

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Speaker 1: an outstand ending job during Shrine game practices. Were tested

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Speaker 1: better at the combine than most people thought. Most people

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01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: looked at him as a four six forty guy. He

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01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 1: was in the low four or five. He's really a fluid,

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01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 1: natural pass catcher. He's the type of guy I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go in the later rounds fifty sixth round area.

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Speaker 1: But I think he could be a good number three

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01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: receiver at the next level and be a special be

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Speaker 1: a special team's as sort of a like a guy

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Speaker 1: by name is Steve Tasker, who I remember when he

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Speaker 1: played for the Buffalo bill He's six four two fourteen.

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Speaker 1: He's more physically gifted. Yeah, yeah, hey, Tony, thanks for this.

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Speaker 1: You're looking forward to the draft. We appreciate you coming

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Speaker 1: on with us. Thank you, thanks for having me, Tony Pauline.

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Speaker 1: If you get ready for the draft three and a

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Speaker 1: half weeks away, you gotta follow Tony on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Tony Pauline. He is NFL Draft Analysts, publisher of Draft

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Speaker 1: analyst dot com and the host of the Draft Analyst podcast. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: it's on my list of favorites. Something worth the reading

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Speaker 1: this time of year. Draft analysts dot Com. I would

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Speaker 1: be a hood ornament on Jamal Custis's car. That's interesting though,

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01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 1: I always because there's always guys like that who jump

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Speaker 1: up into the first round or fall and all of

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01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 1: a sudden you think, well, how this guy lasted the

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01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 1: third round? He comes in and he's like a you know,

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Speaker 1: a nominee for Rookie of the Year on defense or

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Speaker 1: offense or whatever. So it'll be fun to see that

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Speaker 1: happen again this year. It makes a draft fun, right

2187
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 1: because we don't know. Here's another thing nobody knows how

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Speaker 1: many wins are these teams going to get Las Vegas

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Speaker 1: Sports book out with projections for the two thousand nineteen season,

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Speaker 1: and they project the Buffalo Bills are gonna be good

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Speaker 1: for six wins this year. It doesn't seem right, doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I would think they'd be better than that. But maybe

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Speaker 1: I mean. The one thing you have to acknowledge, I believe, Steve,

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Speaker 1: is that these guys know how to do it. These

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Speaker 1: guys who said point spreads and wind projections, and as

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01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 1: you point out, they know how to do it to

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Speaker 1: generate the most action. It's not about not that they

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Speaker 1: know that much about faction on overend On, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: exactly six wins the projection for the Bills wins and

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Speaker 1: loss wins this year? What do you think of that?

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Speaker 1: We got phone lines open eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty twelve three one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. Do you agree with the it gets win

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Speaker 1: projection of six for the Buffalo Bills? Love what you hear,

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01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 1: would love to hear what you have to say about that.

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Speaker 1: On the tweet sheet, Doug Briggs tweets in if we

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01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,760
Speaker 1: can build off our progress of our last five or

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Speaker 1: six games last year and bring that into the season

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Speaker 1: with the additions we made in free agency and with

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Speaker 1: whomever we draft, IF's there, I can see as being

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Speaker 1: an eight or nine win team. It's really nice going

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01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:22,800
Speaker 1: into the draft without having a crazy pressing need no

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Speaker 1: question about no question too. And the thing that bothered

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01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: me about Tony Pauline, the guy we just had on

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01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,799
Speaker 1: he said, all those teams that are picking ahead of Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: those first Arizona San Francisco, with the exception of Arizona

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, the Jazz, Oakland, Tampa Bay, all of those teams, Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: the Giants, all of them could pick a defense, the

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman. It's a big, deep draft in those guys,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of them. But that means,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Bills may have to take a different direction.

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Speaker 1: You know, they may. They may if they're planning on

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Speaker 1: getting one of those guys and the at number nine,

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01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 1: they either a may have to trade up to get

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01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 1: him or be just not just playing on not getting

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. If all those defensive linemen are

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Speaker 1: off the board by the time you get through the

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Speaker 1: top ten picks, it's gonna be fun. Next three and

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Speaker 1: a half weeks to the draft, right this three and

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Speaker 1: a half? Right? Yeah, yeah, three weeks from this Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Thanks to Tony Pauline for joining us.

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Speaker 1: So let us know what you think. Six wins the

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Speaker 1: projection for the Bills is that enough? We got a

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll. We'll check that when we come back. Also

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Speaker 1: got an NFL true and false coming up. Come on back,

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Speaker 1: We got a ways to go here. One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show. We call

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Speaker 1: the show One Bill's Live from One Bills Drive. I'm

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Speaker 1: John Murphy's the Steep taskt. We're here until three every day.

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01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:50,599
Speaker 1: Good talking with Tony Pauline, getting caught up on the draft.

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01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 1: Andrew Brant was great today talking about the Alliance of

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01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 1: American Football in suspension. Looks like it may be going down.

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01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:58,560
Speaker 1: I haven't seen an ALF dates and then it is

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01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 1: too bad from a variety. And I was surprised too,

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01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 1: because you and I thought, wow, this is a league

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01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 1: that's got it all together, doing right, And he said

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01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: just the opposite. He thinks the XFL is going to

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01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: do better because of the business model and he fact

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Speaker 1: it's more simple. There's just one guy who's one investor.

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Speaker 1: It's his dime and they do what he says, and

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01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 1: he's in it to win it, right, this one guy.

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01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:21,839
Speaker 1: You got this other guy for the AAF, Tom Dundon,

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01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:24,720
Speaker 1: who infused cash in it to kind of to buy

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Speaker 1: the authority over the league, and he's not interested in

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Speaker 1: making the league work. It doesn't look like he's Well.

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Speaker 1: Somebody stood out actually, Jeff are talented technical director and

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01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 1: pointed out many people speculate that Dundon, that's his name

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01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 1: right right, bought it because of the gambling technology, the

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Speaker 1: gambling nap, which remember talking to people about this early on.

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Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a big deal. He hasn't really

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Speaker 1: taken off yet, but it will. I haven't heard about

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Speaker 1: it since, but yeah, who knows. But obviously it wasn't

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Speaker 1: about football, right right, and a number of different competing

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01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 1: interests maybe for that league, whereas the XFL they're just

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Speaker 1: about to make money. It means there's too many investors

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01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 1: and they got to listen all of them obviously. So yea,

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today is not about that. It's about this.

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas releases today win totals projections for UM for

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Speaker 1: NFL teams. They've got the Browns jumping up to h

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Speaker 1: Where are they here? The Cleveland Browns got three more

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Speaker 1: wins on this list, and they had a year ago.

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Speaker 1: The Browns, according to this list, I lost them. See

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Speaker 1: where are nine? They're they're nine. They're gonna go from

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Speaker 1: six to nine. Bills won six last year. The same

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Speaker 1: group says the Bills will win six again this year

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Speaker 1: this coming year. Six wins for the Bills? Is that enough?

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Speaker 1: On our Twitter poll, we've got more than seventeen hundred

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Speaker 1: votes in since the show began, eighty five percent of

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Speaker 1: you say no, they're gonna win seven or more games.

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Speaker 1: You like that? How? I kind of personalized that. I

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01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 1: do because I look at those eighty five percent. Those

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01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: are just numbers. Your bias is showing six win sounds

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01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 1: about right. Twelve percent of I responded and say yeah,

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Speaker 1: they'll win around six. Three percent say they'll win five

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Speaker 1: or less. What do you think? Full Night's open eight

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Speaker 1: o three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Let's take a call

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Speaker 1: or two here Tom and Tonawanda has something on his mind.

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Speaker 1: Time go ahead, you're on the here walking to the show.

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Speaker 1: Tom wand to Tom. I know you're there. I can

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01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 1: hear him rustling around with the fam. Do we wait?

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01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 1: We don't wait. I can hear you, Tom, don't do it.

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01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 1: What's he doing? He's put the phone down, making himself

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01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 1: a peanut, butter and jelly. Right here we sit and

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Speaker 1: here we're waiting for you, Tom. Here is a call

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Speaker 1: from j M in Utah. Hello, j M. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: how's it going? Okay? Always? Thanks you? Bet So, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about the Vegas odds. I think Vegas, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a gambler, but I'm pretty sure that Vegas

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Speaker 1: really just focuses on what they think people will bet on,

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01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 1: not necessarily. So I think the national you know, attention

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Speaker 1: on the bills is just that they're medium the pack team.

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01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 1: So I think that's sixth win really just reflects more

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01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 1: like what general people who aren't who aren't paying attention

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01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 1: think of the bills than anything else. That's right, and

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Speaker 1: kind of I kind of spoke about that earlier. It's

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Speaker 1: really the perception around nationally that they think is that

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Speaker 1: will get as many people to bet on the over

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01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 1: as there will on the under and right, and that's

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the thought process that goes into it

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Speaker 1: for Vegas. Yeah, so I so yeah, I think we're

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Speaker 1: definitely gonna win more than six wins. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask you guys a question, though, M kind of changing subjects.

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Speaker 1: So I've read that the Bills are going to have

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Speaker 1: the biggest cap space, like projected to have the biggest

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Speaker 1: cast space number in twenty twenty. I'm not sure about that,

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Speaker 1: but go ahead. Oh yeah, well I read it a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But anyway, we're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: lot of money to spend. I think after this year

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01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 1: we're going to be like an up and coming, exciting

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01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 1: team team. I think this year is going to be

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01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 1: a good year for us. Josh is going to develop.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to know what your thoughts are and

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Speaker 1: getting some really big star power in twenty twenty. I

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01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 1: know that's way off, but I just wanted to hear

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Speaker 1: what you were going to think about that. I think

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01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: you probably look for them to do exactly what they've

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Speaker 1: been doing up to this point. I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna change like They're not going to go off the

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Speaker 1: map and go out and spend one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: million dollars on a pass rusher ure. You know, They're

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01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:08,800
Speaker 1: not going to go out and get a guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: like JJ Watt or somebody like that. They're not gonna

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01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 1: do that. They're gonna stay within their financial constraints and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna it's just not gonna change. So I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do a lot of what I said a

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Speaker 1: little earlier. One of the things that the team is

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01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 1: doing a lot of these days is signing a lot

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Speaker 1: a bigger percentage of their roster to one year deals,

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01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:32,839
Speaker 1: and then they're going out and finding the best possible

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01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 1: fit both culturally and positionally during free agency and pay

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01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 1: those guys a good buck, not an over the top buck,

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01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 1: but a good buck and get them in the door.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think if you haven't seen them do

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Speaker 1: that yet, I don't think they're gonna do it later

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01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 1: and this and as I checked this on this over

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01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 1: the cap, it looks like they've got Yeah, they probably

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01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 1: will have eighty seven million dollars in twenty twenty as

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Speaker 1: of now, as of now, which is a lot of

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Speaker 1: money but that you know, you got a lot of

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01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 1: contracts that you got to sign up until that point,

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01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 1: You've got some some Yeah, I mean that that's going

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01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: to change over the next twenty four months. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: disagree with you, Steve a little bit to a certain extent,

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Speaker 1: because not me, Steve, him, Steve, You're Steve. That's Jay.

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, Jay's on the line. If let's say things

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01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 1: work out pretty well for the Bills this year twenty nineteen,

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01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 1: they could get to next offseason and think, hey, look

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01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 1: we are one or two players away from serious contention here.

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Speaker 1: That's if you know, things work well in twenty nineteen

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01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:37,800
Speaker 1: and there's a free agent that matches what they want,

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01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 1: I can see them spending a lot of money to

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Speaker 1: get that guy right, whether it's who knows what position

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01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:44,960
Speaker 1: it'll be. Will they be set at wide receiver by

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Speaker 1: this time next year, I don't know, honestly don't know.

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Speaker 1: Will they need to spend money on another position, maybe

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Speaker 1: still needing a pass rush guy? I don't know. All

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is I would keep that open because they

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Speaker 1: may be in a position a year from now where

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Speaker 1: they are legitimately a player or two away from serious

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Speaker 1: deep into the playoff. Contention, Jay, what do you think

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Speaker 1: of that? Jay? In the line? Yeah, I agree. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking about the Antonio Brown situation, and

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01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't really think he had a choice like he projected.

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Speaker 1: But we know he didn't want to come here. And

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Speaker 1: the one thing I think Buffalo has lacked for the

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Speaker 1: last couple of beckage really is just a huge star

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Speaker 1: in their prime. And I think that after this year

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Speaker 1: will be looking in that direction. I think that if

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Speaker 1: everything goes as planned, will be in a position where

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Speaker 1: we can get somebody that will want to come to

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Speaker 1: Buffalo and will be a really big like a rock star.

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Speaker 1: You know. Here's what I think, Jay, Sorry, do you

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Speaker 1: think that? I don't know. I mean I think after

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Speaker 1: this year, um, it might be that, like you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at the Rams. They spent a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: uh you know in twenty eighteen and they were right there.

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Speaker 1: They were you know, they were in the Super Bowl. Um,

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Speaker 1: and so uh yeah, I think that we might need

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Speaker 1: that to push us over the top. Here's what I think, Jay,

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Speaker 1: I think the plan for the Buffalo Bills is that

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Speaker 1: guy's already in the house. I think they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: go out and get one. They're gonna grow one. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna find one, groom him, and he's gonna become that,

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Speaker 1: hopefully for most Bills fans, gonna be Josh Allen, or

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a guy like Tredavius White, or it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a guy like Tremaine Edmonds or Harrison if Phillips,

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Speaker 1: you go down the list, Matt Milano. They think, and

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Speaker 1: it's their plan to get one of those guys that

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Speaker 1: in the draft or cultivate one here in the house.

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Speaker 1: And they're not gonna go out And I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's the plan to go out and cherry pick from

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Speaker 1: another team to do that. I think they're counting on

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Speaker 1: a guy like Josh Allen to be the rock star.

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Speaker 1: They're counting on a guy like that to step up

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Speaker 1: and say, okay this, you know I'm the guy. That's

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Speaker 1: more the plan. Now, certainly that could change, obviously, and

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Speaker 1: they could go out and do it. I mean they

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Speaker 1: did it this year Mitch Morrise. They made him the

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Speaker 1: highest paid center in the NFL. So there's that, and

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Speaker 1: it's hard for a center to be your rock star.

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, that's more along the lines I think that

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Speaker 1: I would expect the team to do more so than

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Speaker 1: going out and picking a celebrity of the off the

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Speaker 1: free agent market. Yeah, and I do think thanks very

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Speaker 1: much for calling Jay. In a perfect world for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen would develop into that rock star and do

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Speaker 1: it while he's still on his rookie contract so they

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Speaker 1: don't have to spend a ton of money. Well, and

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Speaker 1: as soon as his options up, they start talking to

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Speaker 1: him and they sign him to a long term deal

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Speaker 1: and they make him the guy, you know, and everybody's

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Speaker 1: happy about it. Henry from the Southern Tier, Henry, thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming on the air of this today. How are

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Speaker 1: you good? How are you doing good? I kind of

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Speaker 1: see how Las Vegas comes in it sometime. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the defense I think is going to be stout like

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Speaker 1: they were last year. I think they're actually going to

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Speaker 1: be a little bit better. But you know, if you

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Speaker 1: have to look at the offense, it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: in chaos. So one starter coming back on the offensive

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Speaker 1: lying Josh Allen. I like him, I like his attitude,

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Speaker 1: but he hasn't proven yet. And be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that hasn't come up on offense is

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big trill of the offensive coordinator, so

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Speaker 1: I gotta see what's gonna Why aren't you what do

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Speaker 1: you think he could have done differently? Well, I think

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Speaker 1: he was too predictable. I was sitting here with friends

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Speaker 1: of mine and I was actually predicting plays that he

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02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 1: was going to call and they and they were coming through.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he likes to run off tackle on the

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Speaker 1: first play and when he gets back on the field,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, if I can see this, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: other teams can see this. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it was because of the offensive line problems and of

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02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:27,080
Speaker 1: course with the rookie quarterback and some of the backup

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that he had to be a little bit um,

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02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, conservative, Maybe that was the reason. So I'm

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02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:38,600
Speaker 1: like kind of holding my judgment and for the second year.

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02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:40,880
Speaker 1: But of course, now this year he's going to come

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02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:43,520
Speaker 1: home with the all brand offensive line, actually some new

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02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 1: wide receivers. You know, Josh Ellen's coming into the second year.

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02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:49,480
Speaker 1: You know, Josh Ellen's got something to prove for me.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not too I'm not a big fan of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks running. They tend to get banged up pretty good. Um,

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02:01:57,600 --> 02:02:00,800
Speaker 1: just for an example, once to Philadelphia. I was actually

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Speaker 1: watching that game. You heard his knee on and I

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02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 1: was watching them run in that game, and I'm going,

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Speaker 1: this guy is a great quarterback. Why are they letting

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Speaker 1: them run? And sure enough, with two plays later, you

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Speaker 1: know you got a net for predictions. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: Henry Henry. Thanks Henry. Yeah, and I get it. You're right,

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02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 1: and I would say this too, no question, the last

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02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:18,960
Speaker 1: thing an offensive coordinator wants to do is be predictable,

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Speaker 1: and you're telling me it was. But I will say

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Speaker 1: this some well offenses who struggle, they struggle because they're limited,

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Speaker 1: uh not limited in their not limited in their play sheet,

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02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:35,120
Speaker 1: but limited in what they'll ask their players to do

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Speaker 1: because they know that their players are limited in their

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Speaker 1: ability to get it done. That's where the Bills were

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Speaker 1: last year. They had five guys, you know, they had

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Speaker 1: five guys up front of Josh Alt who were struggling,

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02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:46,640
Speaker 1: and they, as a result, were limited in what they

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Speaker 1: were willing to call in certain situations. I'm this is

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Speaker 1: just me talking, So I think there's no question there

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02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: probably were times when they felt like they couldn't call

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02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 1: some of the things they wanted to call because they

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02:02:59,120 --> 02:03:01,400
Speaker 1: just couldn't had Josh wouldn't have time to get it off,

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Speaker 1: get the throw off, or they just couldn't get it

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02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:05,240
Speaker 1: done up front in order to hand it off to

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Speaker 1: Shady or anybody else to get through. So I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt that this offense struggled last year. They

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02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:12,400
Speaker 1: had a couple of games when they had a quarterback

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02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 1: would sign a week and a half before starting. You

2486
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:19,040
Speaker 1: know limits, what your pay looks like, what the options

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02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:20,800
Speaker 1: you have to plays to call. And the reason they

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02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:25,440
Speaker 1: started him because those guys kept getting beat up. So yeah,

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02:03:25,480 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 1: they were struggling offensively, no question about it. And when

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Speaker 1: you struggle, you it's not you struggle because you're getting

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02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 1: beat physically. And then when you start getting beat physically,

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02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 1: you pull in the reins and start doing exactly what

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02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:37,280
Speaker 1: you know at least you can do, and then you

2494
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:39,360
Speaker 1: become limited, and then you do become predictable and it

2495
02:03:39,400 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 1: gets worse. But you gotta stick with what you can

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02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:45,560
Speaker 1: get done in order to have any success. And you

2497
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,840
Speaker 1: know they're getting new players this year because they need

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02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:51,280
Speaker 1: to be able to do more things offensively. NFL True

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Speaker 1: or False brought to you my Yancy's fancy New York's

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Speaker 1: artists in chiefs some good ones here. You're ready, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hold on, go ahead? NFL True or false. Number one,

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02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:02,440
Speaker 1: The league should the draft to an earlier date. John Harbaugh,

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02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:05,360
Speaker 1: coach of the Ravens, thinks the draft should come sooner

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02:04:05,680 --> 02:04:08,280
Speaker 1: in the offseason calendar. The quote from Harbaugh, I think

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Speaker 1: the draft should be earlier, sooner. We don't need to

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02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,320
Speaker 1: be so involved where we need three months to watch

2507
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 1: the players ourselves. Let's draft these guys. Let's get them

2508
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:18,840
Speaker 1: to us. His point, I think is valid. You get

2509
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:20,680
Speaker 1: more time to work with the rookies if you draft

2510
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:22,560
Speaker 1: him sooner or not. You know, February, but maybe you

2511
02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:24,960
Speaker 1: get to instead of the end of April, maybe the

2512
02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 1: end of March. Right, you get through, you get through

2513
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:29,800
Speaker 1: the Combine and the All Star Games, you get a

2514
02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 1: little Pro Day action in there, and then you draft

2515
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 1: him at the end of March, and you get to

2516
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 1: work with them sooner. The NFL should move the draft

2517
02:04:35,880 --> 02:04:39,320
Speaker 1: to an early date. True. False. I'm gonna say true now.

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02:04:40,360 --> 02:04:44,200
Speaker 1: Football efficacy is not the reason why the draft is

2519
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:47,360
Speaker 1: where it is. It's TV. It's the major television event

2520
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 1: of the NFL. On the off season. It's one of

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02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 1: the big television events of the spring sports television anyway,

2522
02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 1: So that's why the draft is where it is. So

2523
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:57,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't look for this to happen, but I say, true,

2524
02:04:57,360 --> 02:04:59,800
Speaker 1: they should do it earlier, about a month earlier. Steve,

2525
02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:04,120
Speaker 1: I agree, the problem is the good thing about it

2526
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:06,480
Speaker 1: is this. In this in the current situation, I think

2527
02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:09,360
Speaker 1: it's good for the league if they do it, because currently,

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02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:14,200
Speaker 1: under the economic system that's in place, you've got to

2529
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 1: get the most out of your first year players you Economically,

2530
02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:20,480
Speaker 1: they're the cheapest labor you've got. They're the ones you

2531
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 1: really need to make the football team. They're the ones

2532
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 1: who are the easy it's the easiest for them to

2533
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:29,280
Speaker 1: outperform their contract. You need them to contribute in order

2534
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:32,040
Speaker 1: to contribute better and more consistently across the league on

2535
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:35,120
Speaker 1: a year to year basis. The earlier you can get

2536
02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:39,840
Speaker 1: them to your club, the better they can start learning plays, concepts,

2537
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:44,040
Speaker 1: ways of doing business, film study, all the tendencies, the offense,

2538
02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:46,600
Speaker 1: the terminology. There's so many things they need to get

2539
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:50,000
Speaker 1: into earlier. The earlier the better. So I think, yeah,

2540
02:05:50,080 --> 02:05:52,360
Speaker 1: the earlier they draft him, the quicker they can start

2541
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:54,840
Speaker 1: getting acclimated, and the better they can contribute on the field,

2542
02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:56,840
Speaker 1: and it's better for their own careers. They'll be more

2543
02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:59,080
Speaker 1: successful earlier on in the career if they get a

2544
02:05:59,160 --> 02:06:01,920
Speaker 1: quicker start in their rookie season. So I agree it's true.

2545
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:05,320
Speaker 1: We'll say true. Here's an interesting one NFL true false

2546
02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:09,480
Speaker 1: Part two. Recent retirements by NFL officials are an issue

2547
02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:12,000
Speaker 1: for the NFL. Peter King has espoused this. You know,

2548
02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 1: yesterday John Perry, who is refereed a couple of Super Bowls.

2549
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:18,360
Speaker 1: He's been around for nineteen seasons in the NFL. John

2550
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:20,480
Speaker 1: Perry and ounced yesterday he's retiring to go to work

2551
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:24,720
Speaker 1: for ESPN. Nineteen seasons, three super bowls. Now here's the

2552
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:28,160
Speaker 1: important thing. Over the last Perry gone. That means the

2553
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 1: NFL has now lost seven referees to retirement over the

2554
02:06:31,320 --> 02:06:34,920
Speaker 1: last thirteen months. Seven over the last year plus one month.

2555
02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:38,600
Speaker 1: With Perry's retirement. John Perry's retirement, the NFL will now

2556
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:40,840
Speaker 1: have been forced to replace more than forty percent of

2557
02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:44,960
Speaker 1: its referees since last March thirteen months. That's not ideal.

2558
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:48,080
Speaker 1: So is that a problem? Recent official retirements an issue

2559
02:06:48,080 --> 02:06:51,200
Speaker 1: for the NFL? True? False. You want to go first,

2560
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:53,880
Speaker 1: let me start. I don't know how I feel about this.

2561
02:06:55,400 --> 02:06:57,480
Speaker 1: I know I know what I think. The solution is

2562
02:06:57,800 --> 02:07:00,200
Speaker 1: pay him more, make him full time, and got will

2563
02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:03,000
Speaker 1: stick around longer. So yeah, it's it's an issue. It's

2564
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:05,480
Speaker 1: something they got to look at. Another another argument to

2565
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 1: make these officials full time, making better jobs, keep them

2566
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:12,360
Speaker 1: around longer. Don't have John Perry and you know, in

2567
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:15,800
Speaker 1: good health, he's done three Super Bowls, including last year's.

2568
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:17,960
Speaker 1: There's no way that guy should be leaving at this point.

2569
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:20,520
Speaker 1: But he's getting more money from ESPN and probably has

2570
02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:23,080
Speaker 1: a better job, a ton more money. Yeah, so true,

2571
02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:25,720
Speaker 1: that's an issue. How do you think I'll say, I'm

2572
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:28,920
Speaker 1: gonna say false. Well, let me hear you make this argument.

2573
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:30,480
Speaker 1: I want to hear this. They got a ton of

2574
02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:33,120
Speaker 1: guys in the league who are up and coming. They

2575
02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:36,360
Speaker 1: started hiring guys full time last year. The full time

2576
02:07:36,440 --> 02:07:40,280
Speaker 1: guys who are hired last year weren't all referees. Those

2577
02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 1: guys need to start moving up into the spot. And

2578
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 1: I think what it does do is clear the deck

2579
02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:50,200
Speaker 1: for younger guys to come into the NFL officiating ranks

2580
02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:51,760
Speaker 1: and make it a full time thing. I think the

2581
02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:53,840
Speaker 1: league doesn't. I'm with you one hundred percent. They do

2582
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:55,840
Speaker 1: need to be full time more and more. I think

2583
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:57,960
Speaker 1: they will get there, and I think this paves the

2584
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 1: way for that to happen any quicker. So it's not

2585
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:04,520
Speaker 1: an issue. It's not a catastrophic issue that's an emergency

2586
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:06,880
Speaker 1: for the NFL. I think it's a natural flow, and

2587
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:10,720
Speaker 1: certainly it's a quick flow, quicker flow of evolution that

2588
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:13,000
Speaker 1: we're used to with the NFL. But I don't think

2589
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:17,400
Speaker 1: there's any problem at this point, despite what the New

2590
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:21,440
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints will tell you about the championship game. I

2591
02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:25,240
Speaker 1: think this is a natural evolution of what's happening with

2592
02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:27,520
Speaker 1: the officiating in the National Football League, and I think

2593
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:29,480
Speaker 1: it will level out. No question. This is a little

2594
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:32,000
Speaker 1: bit of a reset, but I think it's it's a

2595
02:08:32,200 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: it's moving in the right direction. So I think there's

2596
02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:36,920
Speaker 1: going to be more full time officials, and I think

2597
02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:41,760
Speaker 1: that having guys younger and committing more of a percentage

2598
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:44,480
Speaker 1: of their professional life to it, rather than having guys

2599
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 1: who are also a lawyers or store owners or whatever

2600
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:49,000
Speaker 1: you want to say. I think this is a move

2601
02:08:49,040 --> 02:08:51,680
Speaker 1: in the right direction for the NFL. Not the wrong direction. Finally,

2602
02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:54,280
Speaker 1: an NFL true false. This is an interesting question as well.

2603
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:57,720
Speaker 1: The contention now from NFL dot com. They say that

2604
02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:00,640
Speaker 1: Adam Gasee is the new head coach the NFL, who

2605
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:02,640
Speaker 1: will have the most success in twenty nineteen? What are

2606
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:05,200
Speaker 1: their eight new hires in the NFL? Adam Gays of

2607
02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:08,200
Speaker 1: the Jets is one of them. Kingsbury goes to Arizona.

2608
02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:10,800
Speaker 1: That's one of them. Freddie Kitchens gets the job of

2609
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:13,240
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown. Do you think he's gonna have some success?

2610
02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:16,760
Speaker 1: Denver goes with Vic Fangio. Packers go with Matt Lafleur.

2611
02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:19,879
Speaker 1: Who else we got? Tampa Bay goes with Bruce Arians

2612
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:24,800
Speaker 1: jets Hire, Adam gase Bengals Hire, Zach Taylor, Dolphins Hire,

2613
02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 1: Brian Flores. Adam Gasee is the one I have the

2614
02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:30,640
Speaker 1: most successful in twenty nineteen. To or false? I'll go false.

2615
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:32,760
Speaker 1: I'll take the field. I'll take one of the other seven, right,

2616
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:34,920
Speaker 1: Maybe Freddie Kitchen. I think Freddie Kitchens is a great,

2617
02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:38,839
Speaker 1: a great, great call for that to have the most success.

2618
02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:43,160
Speaker 1: We've heard a lot about their roster. Baker Mayfield exploded

2619
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:45,440
Speaker 1: onto the field. He looks to be hitting his stride.

2620
02:09:46,280 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 1: And also another guy, Bruce Arians in Tampa Bay. Don't

2621
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:51,240
Speaker 1: overlook him. He's a really good leader of men. The

2622
02:09:51,320 --> 02:09:53,840
Speaker 1: guys really thrive on that. I think he's a breath

2623
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:55,880
Speaker 1: of fresh air that will help things in Tampa Bay.

2624
02:09:56,240 --> 02:09:59,840
Speaker 1: And he's a no nonsense coach. So I think all

2625
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:01,920
Speaker 1: so Bruce Arians might be a candidate for that as well.

2626
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:07,320
Speaker 1: And Adam Gase, Um, I don't know. Greg Williams is

2627
02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:09,840
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. They'll be well coordinated on that side

2628
02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:13,640
Speaker 1: of the ball. Um, Yeah, I would not. I would

2629
02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:15,720
Speaker 1: say Freddie Kitchens or Bruce Arians would be a better

2630
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:18,080
Speaker 1: candidate for that than than Adam Gase. There you go.

2631
02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 1: I like Arians too. Arians with his experience and his

2632
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:25,840
Speaker 1: successful experience in the NFL head coach obviously filling in

2633
02:10:25,960 --> 02:10:28,240
Speaker 1: an Indie and then in Arizona. I think he knows

2634
02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:30,280
Speaker 1: what it takes. Now. They've got some issues in Tampa.

2635
02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:33,760
Speaker 1: There's your questions, got issues, right, But I think he'll

2636
02:10:33,880 --> 02:10:36,240
Speaker 1: he'll be the steady hand and he's kind of exactly

2637
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:41,440
Speaker 1: the guy that that um Sean Payton was not referring

2638
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:43,160
Speaker 1: to when he said can't wait to play those guys.

2639
02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure he didn't think that about Tampa Bay and uh,

2640
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:48,160
Speaker 1: Bruce arians that's correct. That's the guy who knows what

2641
02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:50,440
Speaker 1: he's doing. There you go, NFL True or False brought

2642
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:52,680
Speaker 1: to you by Yancy's Fancy New York's artists and Cheese.

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Speaker 1: Steve and I coming back with more One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay,

2645
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:14,160
Speaker 1: so what do we learned? All right? What have we learned?

2646
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2650
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Speaker 1: a pretty good show today, Stevie, including a couple of

2651
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:31,680
Speaker 1: good guests. Andrew Brant, business of the NFL, expert rights

2652
02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:34,640
Speaker 1: for MMQB and other forums. We talked with Andrew brand

2653
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:37,280
Speaker 1: about a variety of topics, including what looks to be

2654
02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:42,240
Speaker 1: the impending disruption ending of the Alliance of American Football.

2655
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:44,520
Speaker 1: I think we're both shocked by that. Andrew Brant talked

2656
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:46,760
Speaker 1: about the lack of support the Alliance got from the

2657
02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:51,920
Speaker 1: NFL players, Association. You know, if they're looking at this

2658
02:11:52,080 --> 02:11:55,360
Speaker 1: as a business model, maybe they're you know, it's not

2659
02:11:55,520 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 1: a good one. But if they look at it in

2660
02:11:58,120 --> 02:12:01,000
Speaker 1: developmental then it is a good one. And there was

2661
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:04,120
Speaker 1: always the question of, and you can debate this on

2662
02:12:04,240 --> 02:12:09,640
Speaker 1: your show, whether a marginal player is better off signing

2663
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:14,640
Speaker 1: and an NFL offseason workout program to probably get cut

2664
02:12:15,160 --> 02:12:21,200
Speaker 1: in August or to do this. And that's a debate

2665
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:24,080
Speaker 1: we had in NFL Europe. We had the hardest time

2666
02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:28,320
Speaker 1: getting NFL teams to send US players because they'd rather

2667
02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:31,080
Speaker 1: have them in their program in the spring. Well, jentimate question,

2668
02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:33,880
Speaker 1: you're suggesting show topics for us, Steven I might talk

2669
02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:38,400
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah. Also today Tony Pauline from NFL Draft

2670
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:40,920
Speaker 1: to NFL Draft X, were we talking about the importance

2671
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:42,920
Speaker 1: of Pro days two more days of pro days before

2672
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:45,080
Speaker 1: the draft, and Tony Pauline says, you can get a

2673
02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:49,320
Speaker 1: lot of information out of these Pro days. It's more

2674
02:12:49,480 --> 02:12:52,400
Speaker 1: personal than the combine. You know. Number one, it's a

2675
02:12:52,520 --> 02:12:56,000
Speaker 1: chance for players who maybe tested poorly at the combine

2676
02:12:56,080 --> 02:12:58,640
Speaker 1: to get better marks. It's a chance for players who

2677
02:12:58,720 --> 02:13:00,720
Speaker 1: didn't run at the combine. Were two when you to

2678
02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:04,000
Speaker 1: run the Combine for whatever reason to finally test, and

2679
02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:08,160
Speaker 1: really it's as opportunity for some of the three hundred

2680
02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:10,720
Speaker 1: and thirty five one of the guys who were players

2681
02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:12,400
Speaker 1: who were not one of the three hundred and thirty

2682
02:13:12,440 --> 02:13:16,440
Speaker 1: plus invited to the Combine to work out for NFL teams.

2683
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:19,600
Speaker 1: That's a good question too. But back jareder Brand Steve,

2684
02:13:19,640 --> 02:13:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure that maybe that's what's failing the Alliance of

2685
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:25,480
Speaker 1: American Football. Maybe players and their agents think, look, you

2686
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:28,000
Speaker 1: got a better chance of not playing in the Alliance,

2687
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:31,160
Speaker 1: signing on as a futures guy with the team in January,

2688
02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:33,880
Speaker 1: working out around their complex all spring long. You got

2689
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:35,400
Speaker 1: a better chance to sticking with that team than if

2690
02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:37,920
Speaker 1: you play in the Alliance. That's the equation, right, That's yeah.

2691
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:40,200
Speaker 1: And it's also true too that if you do play

2692
02:13:40,240 --> 02:13:42,640
Speaker 1: in the AAF. The question was this, if if they

2693
02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:44,320
Speaker 1: wanted you away from there, you were going to be

2694
02:13:44,360 --> 02:13:46,320
Speaker 1: a free agent and there'd be other teams bidding on

2695
02:13:46,440 --> 02:13:48,560
Speaker 1: your services. But you'd have to play well in the

2696
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:52,560
Speaker 1: AAF to get that kind of marketability out of that league. Certainly,

2697
02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:54,640
Speaker 1: other teams will say, listen, what are you gonna do?

2698
02:13:54,760 --> 02:13:56,320
Speaker 1: And there's a chance you get a little bit of

2699
02:13:56,320 --> 02:13:58,840
Speaker 1: a signing bonus to go to that team even though

2700
02:13:58,880 --> 02:14:01,360
Speaker 1: you weren't there through their offseason programs. Good question. We

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02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:03,000
Speaker 1: got a lot coming up tomorrow show. Make sure you

2702
02:14:03,120 --> 02:14:06,320
Speaker 1: join us at noon tomorrow. Production assistants George Blast, Jeff

2703
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Speaker 1: Colteneck Thomas Homander, Kelly Rude, JJ Turedo, Kevin Cargius. Team's

2704
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Speaker 1: Rob with our producer Jay Harris. We're back Steve and

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Speaker 1: I tomorrow twelve noon. Right here, One Bill's Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.