WEBVTT - Drugs N Hip Hop

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<v Speaker 1>Big Court from the Holding Court Podcast, What's Happening court.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Roster lou Fella, Salute the Big Jason

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<v Speaker 1>lout the Big Still thank you for having me to

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<v Speaker 1>as well for show for show for show. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were having some discussions. You know, we always talk

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<v Speaker 1>on our own time about everything, and there seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be a problem with drug uses, a pervasive problem with

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<v Speaker 1>drug using. The hip hop coach gets an urban coaching period. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a product of the seven. You know. It's born

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies, born in seventy um, raised in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember there was a time to where you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be labeled as a thing. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the most embarrassing thing ever. You didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>called no smoker. You didn't want to have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with no drugs. You remember. At one time that

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<v Speaker 1>was a big part of the thing. Even the use it.

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<v Speaker 1>They would tell you like crackers wack, we're not working

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<v Speaker 1>with that. You know, you don't want to be no thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're smoker. That was the worst thing you can call

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<v Speaker 1>the person. But now it's just invaded the whole cooture.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got these guys. They sound like they fall to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep on their tracks. Man, they do. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>opiates epidemic in this country, you know, as strong opiate epidemic.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a heroin the epidemic. And um, I

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<v Speaker 1>know in the New Orleans, for example, heroin has been

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<v Speaker 1>the main drug since as far back as I can remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody and everybody in New Orleans was on that. Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they've been that with that for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you had used them with the lean movement,

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<v Speaker 1>all of us connected back to opious. Yeah, you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>The strange thing too, is still like you said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>born in the seventies, raised in the eighties. Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know our parents. You know, at least my mom and

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<v Speaker 1>her her reference of drug to stay away from was

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<v Speaker 1>heron you know what I'm saying, from the Vietna, from Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 1>from the city these in the fifties and ships like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So cocaine was a uh, you know, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>party drug. There's a rich people drug. So you could

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<v Speaker 1>see how people my mother's age and even Big J

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<v Speaker 1>you know, their generation got broadsided by crack because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what that was. They didn't know what it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be you know what I'm saying. Um, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I could never understand why, you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>generation or even younger would even touch some of these

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<v Speaker 1>hard drugs, you know, because we have reference points of

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, cocaine and cracking all of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, um, you know, I won't say no names,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, we all know street people. But I

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<v Speaker 1>remember a couple of my street cats that I that

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<v Speaker 1>I that I know, and I would ask them, I would,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, bro, how y'all still making money? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't seen a crackhead since the nineties, really, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And and and the nigga told me,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, ship, he said, these motherfucker's ridding around on

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<v Speaker 1>these twenty sixes and and and and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like them? Them is them? Is the customers

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<v Speaker 1>right there. And I was blown away when he said.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, damn for really, Like, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it's uh, you know, I don't know, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know it is the level of

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<v Speaker 1>mental illness. I think we're not talking about the mental

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<v Speaker 1>illness part of it as well. And and of course

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<v Speaker 1>we know what the systemic part of it is too

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<v Speaker 1>as well, you know what I mean. I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>still uh you know, dealing with the the ripple effects

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<v Speaker 1>of crack cocaine as well, because you know that ship

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<v Speaker 1>had tentacles. I mean, you got you know, families, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that we're broken mandatory minimums. You got niggas just

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<v Speaker 1>coming home, you know what I mean, from from them

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<v Speaker 1>Drake Coney and sentences and ships or fragmented the family.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's so many, it's layers. There's so many layers

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<v Speaker 1>to the issues that we see now. And like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's cool to be a thing. I remember, Uh one

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<v Speaker 1>of my little nephews partners, he's talking about he about

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<v Speaker 1>to go bust ahead, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking to myself, like ship they give you. You're

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<v Speaker 1>the junkie, like he on everything. He don't pe it

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<v Speaker 1>was he gonna lean he up, he's down, he's crazy, depressed,

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<v Speaker 1>he's happy like they on so much ship, bro, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the culture. Unfortunately, they celebrate that ship. Watching

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<v Speaker 1>my parents, their friends. They was on the Molly's and

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<v Speaker 1>all that ship. The marijuana, uh, the PCP, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that was the drug back then, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. In the seventies, every ten years, every year

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<v Speaker 1>people find different ship, different ways to get high, and

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<v Speaker 1>all it did is elevating because marijuana didn't work no more.

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<v Speaker 1>The mollys didn't work no more. Now you got uh

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<v Speaker 1>the lean, Now you got the uh what's the them

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<v Speaker 1>new pills? I took some of the more fockers before

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<v Speaker 1>the who there's those ecstasy? Yeah, Exstacy, I popped. I

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<v Speaker 1>popped like Poe Exstacy sitting down on my knees is

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<v Speaker 1>white levies gambling And why I'm shooting one of my

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<v Speaker 1>little honeys because I was so fucked up. And but

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<v Speaker 1>our kids today, the regular ship, the ship that they

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<v Speaker 1>was on back then, they don't do it no more.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, I don't get you high

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<v Speaker 1>no more. So people are looking for what's gonna anticipate

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<v Speaker 1>these situations opposed to mellow them out or whatever, because

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<v Speaker 1>just like you said, Noring, they're doing different drugs. If

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing lean and drinking alcohol right behind it and

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<v Speaker 1>smoking weeds, so they're doing four different types of drugs

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<v Speaker 1>only one time just to get that that high. And

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<v Speaker 1>the tolerance level is so whack these days. They can

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<v Speaker 1>do it all day, man, they can. They can smoke weed.

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<v Speaker 1>I was straight, just keep umping weeds and and some

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<v Speaker 1>of them don't even be hind. Yeah, it just gotten worser,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all it is. They don't. And the weed these

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<v Speaker 1>days is crazy, you know what I mean when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the th C in it and just you

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<v Speaker 1>know how, I'm like, damn, how how are you trying

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<v Speaker 1>to beat? You know? Well, you know the thing it

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<v Speaker 1>was core back in our days. I think, um, if

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<v Speaker 1>you smoke some good old a good grade of reef,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like they have. Monkey Paul had different, you

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<v Speaker 1>know strings he was running maybe about thirty thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent t C. Right, you know, you're smoking joint. You

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<v Speaker 1>get the giggles, you get the monks. But that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. That was some good weed back then. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the arabage is kind of like fifty four. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six, I've seen sixty, and it's like, how high

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to be in the thing? It was

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<v Speaker 1>these What's happening now is these kids are smoking so

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<v Speaker 1>much weed that it's like it's becoming a thing to

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<v Speaker 1>where they gotta smoke more than you gotta. They gotta

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<v Speaker 1>damn the smoking ounce just to get that same mind

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<v Speaker 1>instead of to where it used to be a weekend thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You may smoke Friday and Saturday, but you know, Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>through Thursday, whatever, Sunday, you go to church with him

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<v Speaker 1>and you're business the rest of the week. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a weekend thing. Now it's a daily thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You got people smoking joints back to back to back

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<v Speaker 1>to back to back, and it's like they lose the

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<v Speaker 1>backs of it and it's not so much weed. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about this. This opiates. Man, there's these opiates man, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, opious. They can do a number of things.

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<v Speaker 1>James talked about these guys mixing that lean with the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the promethezine with the alcohol you can leave

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<v Speaker 1>to your loans, collapsing um. You know, my boy from

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<v Speaker 1>second to None he lost his brother like that. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he just you know, one day could lapse. Man, he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't breathe and he didn't make it to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>He died passed away from it. Yeah, I mean, let's explore,

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<v Speaker 1>like what's the root of that, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like like what's the root of it? And and and

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<v Speaker 1>then not only the root of it, the influence. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the rappers, they they influenced that. The music sets the

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<v Speaker 1>training for the drug of the day, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. When when Chronic came out, everybody was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get that good weed. It was about trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get the chronic, you know what I mean. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember doing the late nineties, early two thousand's,

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<v Speaker 1>of course with the explosion of you know up north,

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<v Speaker 1>the Northern Cali, you know, HiFi movement. It was all

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<v Speaker 1>about them thistles. It was all about that ecstasy. And

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<v Speaker 1>then then the Moley and all of that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>of course you had Houston, you know with the screwed

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<v Speaker 1>up ship, you know, with the lean. They've they've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing the lean forever, you know what I'm saying with

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<v Speaker 1>the drink. But I'm gonna tell you something, No, Court,

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<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't in Texas they popularized it, right they

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<v Speaker 1>the mainstream. But I know Philly, Ohio, and I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure Beckham, James every it was on that on that

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<v Speaker 1>leaning real heavy too. That Now that ain't the West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast thing. I never heard of it out on the

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<v Speaker 1>West coast, just really located, just really in Houston. To

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<v Speaker 1>be very honest with you, but to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna be real court. I had homeboys in Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>my homeboys in Pittsburgh, had homeboys in Ohio. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. Because you have to remember, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that some of this stuff is kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>it's two coincident in it because I remember I had

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<v Speaker 1>asked me real bad coming up right, And remember my

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<v Speaker 1>mom would take me to the hospital in at one time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if I had a code was congested, they

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<v Speaker 1>would give her a big two leader for to permit

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<v Speaker 1>the zaine. Mm hmm, it will be a two leader.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember she give me a teaspoon. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>just go to sleep and will knock me right out.

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<v Speaker 1>But the whole leader stayed up there. It might still

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<v Speaker 1>be sitting up in their medicine cabinet. It was there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I ain't gonna lie bro during COVID, I

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<v Speaker 1>called COVID. I had COVID. You know about two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a super bad cough and and the doctor

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<v Speaker 1>prescribed me that that that ship right. I can see

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<v Speaker 1>the appeal of it because I slept good, my nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna lie. I slept good as ship right,

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<v Speaker 1>but it robbed me of my day. I can't see

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<v Speaker 1>how niggas functioning on it because I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do ship like. I was actually like like a heroin

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<v Speaker 1>at it like I was doze and had that dophine.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'll be watching TV and next thing I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not off and ship like. I don't see how

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<v Speaker 1>they how they functioned on it, you know. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they realized really the effects of it,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said with the kidneys and even you can

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<v Speaker 1>always tell when these little niggas is on this because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't use the bathroom, they get the gut. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the thing with man, and you know literally that

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<v Speaker 1>means you full of ship because you can't. You can't,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't move your boss, you can't overs if you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to. It's been people, man. I've heard of people. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>the famous people have to go get the surgery because

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<v Speaker 1>they they literally couldn't shipp The gotta go in there

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of just buy, yeah, it's open to get

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of all the feces and stuff, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ahead can tell it. You can go like that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, for sure. But I mean, let's explore, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what you think the the like I said, the root

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Why why you want to get so high?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are they so you know, fascinated with with the

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<v Speaker 1>with with the drug culture. Well, we got two different

0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:54.560
<v Speaker 1>dynamics going on court. The first one is life imitating art.

0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, people see their favorite artists doing stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest major thing about his undiagnosed depression, self medication.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people are depressed, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>having diagnosed depressed, a lot of people don't believe in depression.

0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:08.520
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people don't believe. And you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go get therapy and things like that. They that's I

0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.600
<v Speaker 1>suffered from depression off and known probably for most of

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<v Speaker 1>my life, which I believe was hereditary, probably up until

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more recent years. But yeah, that'shi, it real,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. You just gotta do your

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<v Speaker 1>work and understand what your triggers are and like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>talk to somebody. That ship is ready. There's depression. We

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<v Speaker 1>live in the generation man to where people look at um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, expressing your feelings. Some people, especially in our community,

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<v Speaker 1>They look at expressing your feelings as being soft. So

0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people self medicate. They smoke weed, they

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<v Speaker 1>drink alcohol. Um. You know, you think if you think

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<v Speaker 1>about the pattern in the hood all day, you know,

0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.080
<v Speaker 1>we don't see their man. The morning. They gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>them a couple of grams. They stopped the spense for

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<v Speaker 1>get them a couple of grams. They go to store

0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and get them a til pact. They sit around and

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<v Speaker 1>drink smoke, will drink smoke. Then they may go up

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<v Speaker 1>with their homeboys. Their homeboys got a couple of pills.

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<v Speaker 1>Next thing you know, they're popping the motherfucker's. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>not just taking these pills. They're not just taking drinking

0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.200
<v Speaker 1>them with a glass of water. No, all these motherfucker's

0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.480
<v Speaker 1>showing these pills, they courting them because each peel, like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you get a Tim Millergraham oxycotton, right, that

0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Tim Millergraham oxycotton is built to release over six hours.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not built to go on your bloodstream all thet once.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you get the showing them motherfucker's and snorting them,

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking all of that at once, man, And what

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't overloads your senses almost in where you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the fun is want. Like you said, you're

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<v Speaker 1>nodding off and you don't give a funk about nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you have so many instances of motherfucker's just

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<v Speaker 1>popping the motherfucker just for no reason. Pretty much. You know,

0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.760
<v Speaker 1>motherucker's say something power because you are desensitized to what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on around you. And so we have a lot

0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:54.040
<v Speaker 1>of people suffering from the addiction and not pray healing

0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and help for anybody stuck on heroin. I've had heroin

0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.800
<v Speaker 1>addicts in my family. It's almost impossible. I've seen people

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<v Speaker 1>get off crack. I've seen people get off cocaine. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen people start I've seen people put weed down easy, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But that heroin, it's all It's a strong monkey on

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<v Speaker 1>your back. Man. It's almost impossible to leave because by

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<v Speaker 1>the time they started getting sick. Man, I had a cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on that ship, right and they was going

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<v Speaker 1>through what man, I'm talking about, defecating on themselves, man,

0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.480
<v Speaker 1>advocating on themselves. The sweats. It's almost like they begged

0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you for that stuff. I had a cousin, Man, they

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<v Speaker 1>literally tied her up when they got her queen, like

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<v Speaker 1>literally her daddy got on the room, tied her up,

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<v Speaker 1>and left friend there. He would come in their feather

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<v Speaker 1>suit and he did this for about six months, and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually she started getting normal. And but what are he

0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.080
<v Speaker 1>was doing? He would give her a little doses a ship, right,

0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.600
<v Speaker 1>like little doses are like um, like what was that ship?

0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.880
<v Speaker 1>He would give her on like taling all threes, like

0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.560
<v Speaker 1>lower dose medicine because you know, you could die on

0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that ship. M you get down on that ship. So

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<v Speaker 1>he would cut like a town and all three up

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<v Speaker 1>the four's and feed her little pieces of it and

0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.160
<v Speaker 1>ship like that, so she would get the little thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so she could relax a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>then eventually he just like cut her off cold turkey

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<v Speaker 1>and she got clean. Man, But it took her. Once

0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.440
<v Speaker 1>he got her like that, then he put her in

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<v Speaker 1>the rehab because he did the rehab ship before, and

0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.040
<v Speaker 1>he was like, funk this ship. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>go spend another fifteen thousand dollars for your ass to

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<v Speaker 1>come out and be cool. And then they want to

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<v Speaker 1>replace that ship with some other medicine. Because now I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit better because they have medicine like

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<v Speaker 1>my cousin back then, she's on the medicine. Now she

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<v Speaker 1>takes a peel I think once a day. She takes

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<v Speaker 1>a peal once a day, and she's been clean, works

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<v Speaker 1>a job. You wouldn't You wouldn't know her. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>when I was back at the crib and it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, hey, there, you finally back to us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud of you. She's able to hold a

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<v Speaker 1>job now, She's probably had to take that medicine for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of her life. But Dog, it's better than

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<v Speaker 1>the alternative. But it makes me think sometimes it's like, okay,

0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:04.320
<v Speaker 1>you were place one drug with another. Somebody's still getting paid.

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<v Speaker 1>How does this ship make it to the streets, bro,

0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Because we ain't got no you know, they got pelle

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<v Speaker 1>princes in the creative stuff like that, But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think no chemists in the hood like that that's able

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<v Speaker 1>to figure off the pharmacology of Opius. You feel what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, the manufacturing gills that ship is coming from somewhere, dog,

0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's coming from the inside. And I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>you another thing too, bro, that fat and all it's

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<v Speaker 1>really taking motherfucker's out. I lost one of my little lost,

0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.360
<v Speaker 1>one of my cousin lost his son. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>rest in peace, little DJ. But he wasn't on ship. Dog.

0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.320
<v Speaker 1>He just got him a job though. He just got

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<v Speaker 1>a job of the city. You know how to her

0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.680
<v Speaker 1>his court, we both met West boys. You get a

0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.040
<v Speaker 1>job with the city, you're making that forty fifty run up.

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<v Speaker 1>You can run a four bedroom house for eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month, and that motherfucker you're doing good, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So his back was hurt, real bad. He went over

0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.160
<v Speaker 1>one of his home plays house and said, hey, my

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<v Speaker 1>back is killing me. Oh dog, got some for that.

0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.080
<v Speaker 1>He took that dog, laid on with his little baby

0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.200
<v Speaker 1>on his cheff dog. He just never woke up because

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<v Speaker 1>it was fitting on. I just got our knee surgery dog.

0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.520
<v Speaker 1>And when I was in knee surgery, it was funny

0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.840
<v Speaker 1>because you wake up all you remember, you don't remember nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>You just remember just just kind of just passing out right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you wake up and your knee in the first

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<v Speaker 1>worst pain in the world. And they got this ice

0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.240
<v Speaker 1>thing on your knee is properly like, oh, ship, what

0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.240
<v Speaker 1>the fund is going on? So I hear the nurse

0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.719
<v Speaker 1>one C C f cc affetting all you know, and

0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.240
<v Speaker 1>she ship that thing. Once she hit that thing dog

0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:36.680
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, she didn't shake it into that thing.

0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I swear I felt the warmthons come up with my

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<v Speaker 1>body almost instantly. Nat wasn't hurt, and she told me,

0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.359
<v Speaker 1>she said, yeah, you're feeling good now, but tomorrow there's

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<v Speaker 1>some time to burl that knat pain heels gonna come back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they tell you to get your pain medication

0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and ship before you even go home, so that ship

0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.159
<v Speaker 1>is there. And she was just think. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of doing my therapy. Look shine, he's like

0:17:58.359 --> 0:17:59.800
<v Speaker 1>he been on my leg. All of a sudden that

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<v Speaker 1>ain't came back. And I was like, oh, Ship, you've

0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:03.960
<v Speaker 1>been in the two hard you've been in the to her,

0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.320
<v Speaker 1>she said, did you take your pain medicine? No? They

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<v Speaker 1>kept asking me, Mrs Still, why are you not taking

0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the pain mess And I'm looking at these white folks

0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:17.959
<v Speaker 1>like why are you not taking your main pain medicine.

0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you're not turning me into a JUNKI and

0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.440
<v Speaker 1>this fucking if I don't have to take him my taking.

0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.840
<v Speaker 1>But then what I realized was. In order for me

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<v Speaker 1>to do my therapy right, I had to take a

0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.000
<v Speaker 1>mess subscribe. And that's what I did. I took a

0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.040
<v Speaker 1>mess subscribe. I took it nothing like. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>no pain now. I don't funk with the motherfucker's the

0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:39.040
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's in the toilet because I'm a responsible parent. Me no,

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<v Speaker 1>when I got teenagers in the house, I'm not one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Parents like my Thank God, my kids don't

0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.200
<v Speaker 1>do no dope. But teenagers like the experiment. They're curious.

0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.080
<v Speaker 1>They may go in that medical cabinessty ship Pomp's got

0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.160
<v Speaker 1>some mons cottle. I'm gonna trap one of these motherfucker.

0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.040
<v Speaker 1>It might be the one ship to send them over

0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.159
<v Speaker 1>the eggs dog. I ain't going out like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think we got a lot of mental illness in

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<v Speaker 1>our community, bro. We have its in our community, and

0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.760
<v Speaker 1>it's um and it's to the point, bro, to where

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<v Speaker 1>we don't we don't seek treatment because we want to

0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.040
<v Speaker 1>keep getting out using. When people getting clean, it's because

0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.160
<v Speaker 1>they want to. I had a brother that did crack.

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<v Speaker 1>He would tell you. I had a brother that did

0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.920
<v Speaker 1>cracked for him five years straight, and he told me, said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I smoked thirty five hundred dollars worth ship every day,

0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and he made his way to go get that money.

0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.399
<v Speaker 1>He figured out one day he tried to do everything.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom's would try to let him in the house. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she come back on TV, gone rings going,

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.240
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of ship and he'd be sitting up for

0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that motherfucker, like and come back in any of them,

0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.000
<v Speaker 1>or what's going on, Mama, billy? Where's my stuff at? Like,

0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.199
<v Speaker 1>where's all my stuff? I don't know. Somebody must have

0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.440
<v Speaker 1>broken the crib and eventually, you know, any time a

0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:50.600
<v Speaker 1>mother gets tired of you and kicked her son off

0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the crib, they gotta be serious, though, Yeah, we gotta worship.

0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:00.879
<v Speaker 1>That's like a quarterbreak almost, you know that drum like

0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:07.200
<v Speaker 1>that's like that's like but yeah, but but I think

0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to your point, man, like when you think about you know,

0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.479
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this ship is systemic too. You know,

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like they give us the tools to to to

0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.760
<v Speaker 1>destroy ourselves. You know what I'm saying, Because you know

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.560
<v Speaker 1>it's so many, it's so many layers to it. You know,

0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.720
<v Speaker 1>we're already dealing with depression, were already dealing with you know, uh,

0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 1>mental illness, we're dealing with health issues, we're dealing with

0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, hopelessness. That that adds to it too, because

0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.760
<v Speaker 1>you know there's so many struggles and like that, think

0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.199
<v Speaker 1>about it. It's still liquor stores. Like you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the hood, you know, Like I live in the valley,

0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So when I'm in Calabasas,

0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't see liquor stores like that. Like I literally

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of go look for one, you know what I'm saying.

0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.480
<v Speaker 1>But you you go to l a man, the motherfucker's

0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:52.000
<v Speaker 1>is all over. It's like you can find anything you want,

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.480
<v Speaker 1>but but you can't find but it's hard to like

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.639
<v Speaker 1>James said, you know, but you can't get health insurance.

0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't find you know, a mentor, you

0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.200
<v Speaker 1>can't get into college. You can get into jail easier

0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:04.840
<v Speaker 1>than you can get into college, you know what i mean.

0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.919
<v Speaker 1>Like there's not there's not useful resources around you, you

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. But you can get anything you want,

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>any drug you want, fitting all oxy thistles, wet, whatever

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:17.879
<v Speaker 1>you want. It's out there for you to indulge in.

0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.120
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of that ship is the stomach bro

0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.959
<v Speaker 1>A lot of a lot of ships start off recreation

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.320
<v Speaker 1>on a lot of people get hired just because they're

0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:32.160
<v Speaker 1>hanging out. You know, I never did marijuana. I've never

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.919
<v Speaker 1>seen the reason to do that. Um, when when the

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:41.560
<v Speaker 1>promos came out, everybody homies passing joints. You know what

0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, doing promos happen to motherfucker's that was hanging

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.120
<v Speaker 1>around only did it because the homies was doing it.

0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Everybody was not junkies. But you became a junkie after

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 1>when you're the only motherfucker's still doing great cocaine, you're

0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 1>a junkie. You know what I'm saying. Harolin dog food

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 1>was totally different because it fed and and and attacks

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you from the inside, right, Not no mind ship that

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 1>cocaine was totally different. Motherfucker's was robbing and stealing and

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 1>doing all other kinds of ship for different trugs. But

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the kids of the day didn't have to get down

0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:28.359
<v Speaker 1>like in in my days. You know what I'm saying.

0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:33.240
<v Speaker 1>They're doing ship just because the next person is doing it.

0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, they're listening to uh Little Wayne rapping

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 1>about lane or or what you call them talking about percocets.

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:46.720
<v Speaker 1>So the mind tells them, Man, I'm gonna go try

0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 1>that ship out, So we'll start off just a taste tester.

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:56.320
<v Speaker 1>When they start liking it, everybody in the hood wants

0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to hang out and be feeling good, especially when they

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:02.920
<v Speaker 1>go to park these yet the nightclubs, everybody already ready

0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>they pop the theles, they're getting that motherfucker what they're doing.

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>They're drinking their ass off. It intensified. They hide, so

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.479
<v Speaker 1>they started getting used to it. It becomes a pattern.

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I gotta this is how I gotta do it. So

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, if if I walked around the who to

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 1>say everybody is doing drug got a mental problem? I'd

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>be crazy and the motherfucker No, we're just doing ship

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>just because everybody else is doing it now, and I'm

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>doing it because it makes me feel good. Yeah, it's

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>some people in the hood that that's going through a

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:40.880
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of ship and doing drugs is a way

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of forgetting you know what I'm saying, like alcohol, you're

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the worstest motherfucking drug out there. Theory because m hm,

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>when I when I put myself in situations and did

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 1>certain things, I got drunk so I didn't have to

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.919
<v Speaker 1>think about it. But guess what, when you wake up

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that next day, you're gonna wake up with a hangover,

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>but you still gonna remember the ship you did and

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I funked up you was, you know what I'm saying.

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 1>So alcohol was one of the worstest motherfucking things out there.

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 1>But these kids they're doing it. All these niggas out

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 1>here today don't give a fuck. So it's just a

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 1>word of mouth. Let's try this, and everybody is uh

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:29.880
<v Speaker 1>experimenting with whatever it's new today. Yeah, that's that's crazy

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I never subscribed to that. And I

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what you mean, James, because you know, growing up,

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, all my friends drank smoke weed. You know,

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that was what it was back then. Uh in case

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you know wet you know that was the wed daddy,

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the button nket that was a thing in the nineties. Um.

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think probably because I grew up

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:52.919
<v Speaker 1>in a household with function and alcoholics, you know, and

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I kind of grew up around drugs like you know,

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 1>I grew up in the eighties, so you know, I

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:00.639
<v Speaker 1>remember finding you know, when my mother and her friends

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and my stepfather would be partying. You know what I'm

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>on the weekend. I remember finding them trades up under

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the couch with the residue. You know what I'm saying.

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I used to be drawn in the residute. I didn't

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>know what it was, you know what I'm saying. And

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 1>so but you know, I remember my people being inebriated,

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know that just that ship just turned

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:20.959
<v Speaker 1>me off, bro Like, I never wanted to be around it.

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.439
<v Speaker 1>I never did it. My friends did it, but you know,

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I never followed, you know what I'm saying. Like, and

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>and it could be just because I've seen it in

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>my household, you know. But you're right though, a lot

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 1>of people fall victim to just being followers and and

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 1>just trying to you know, fit in, you know what

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, And they funk around and try something, and

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>it takes some years to untry it, you know what

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean exactly. And and the thing it was, Court

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I went through my period, man, because being a product

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of Midwest, some stuff was just then out of bordom.

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 1>You're out of sheer boredom. You know. The thing is,

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 1>because you know, being in the Midwest and the small towns,

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't already vote on everything that's walking around there

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>already and you don't know and everything, and then the

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 1>thing it was somebody got a kick back, they got liquor,

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>they got beer, over the wind up getting front. I

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>went through a period that went to one summer dog

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>where I blacked out twice, and that's when I realized

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. That's when I kind of slowed down, but

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I kept going kind of into my arm early twenties,

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 1>and then I remember my little boy came to me

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>one day and said, I want to drink beer too,

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 1>And I just looked at the way he looked at me.

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, damn, did my son see me as a

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 1>drunk motherfucker woving around here? And my wife would kind

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>of making choice. It's easy to go be that for this,

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and I just left the ship alone. I just stopped.

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't go to know where the draws or nothing.

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I just left alone. That was after because after year,

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>it was still early for you, like like me, before school.

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Fuck school. We stopped that, just stove and got a

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 1>court of all English, and we drunk beer all the

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>way to school. Coming from school, when the sun going down,

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>we switched from liquor to bumpy face. Were drank and

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:04.360
<v Speaker 1>by Jen we we were drinking. That was my way

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.400
<v Speaker 1>of coping with everything that was going on the day.

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>So when nighttime hit down, I'm already ready half for

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>my motherfucking Shenanigans. Was because I was already drunk, feeling good,

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and ready to go fuck it, you see what I'm saying.

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>But I was able to cope with with what was

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>going on around me for that day. I just didn't

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>do the weed. Everybody else was drinking with me from

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>from from morning tonight on there to to hard liquor.

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>They smoked weed. I didn't. And then say the early

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>part of the eighties that that premo, Yeah, we had

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the Vermont Drive in ten cars and everybody is going

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.120
<v Speaker 1>back and forth back and forth to East Car smoking

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>premos and drinking. But when we had that motherfucking fighting there,

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody looked like they was paranoid to know what the

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>fun to do. And I've seen the best of the

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 1>best loss even lost, Like what the funk am I doing?

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Didn't know what to do? So man, that promo should

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>smell so terrible. Man, my aunt, you know my first

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 1>introduction in the promo um in the eighties. You know,

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>my my aunt used to smoke weed. I used to

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>like the smell of weed when I was a kid,

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I always loved the smell of it. And

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>my aunt would be smoking and I used to be like, Damn,

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>her weed smell funny, Like that was stronger ship. I

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>used to be like, why her ship smell like that?

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>You know it was. It wasn't until you know, I

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>got a little bit older where it was like damn,

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>aunt was on their mold and she was that with

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>that when before she started doing most like my uncle's

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>they were they were doing the blow, they were sniffing

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the ship. Yeah, and and once that didn't funk with

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>him no more, they went to the next thing. Now

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>they're basing now basically you know, now they're doing different ships.

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>It's just it intensified once you get it in your

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>system and you just want more and you want a

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.719
<v Speaker 1>better effect. You want to you want to get you

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>want to be fucked up. So what they're doing, man,

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>is the why? Man, I just keep going. But like

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>James me, knowing your story, I totally understand. You know again,

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>you know why you would be you know, indulge in

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>having to uh you know, endure and go through all

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the ship you was dealing with you know what I'm saying.

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>But but then you know what for for people that's

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>dealing with that, like what's the what's the alternative? What?

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>What are the alternatives? You know, I know you didn't

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>really have them in that day, James, or at least

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you didn't know that you had them. But nowadays with

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the Internet and in so much information at our disposal,

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>with our fingertips, like what what is the alternative? Even

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>though even though I did a lot of alcohol, I

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't choose to do marijuana smoke weed like they did

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>on the daily. Um, you know, a lot of cats

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>that hung with us didn't do either one. But in

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>due time they're gonna be like everybody funked up looking

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>like they're having a good time. Now they want to

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>try it. It's just you know, we you hang with

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>people now they want to do the ship that they

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>see in and that's all they did. Man, if you

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>stick to your guns, ain't doing drugs. Likely forward one

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>of the homies. He was one of the biggest cats

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood. Never went to prison. Damn, Why is

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>this nigga so swollen? And they never met to prison

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>because he was a healthy. Motherfucker. He didn't do alcohol,

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>he didn't do we he didn't put that ship in

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>his body. M see what I'm saying. So it's the

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>choices that we made at that time doing it. Just

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>like the cast of the day, it's the choices that

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>they're making the people that they're hanging around bad influence.

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>So we don't have to. Yeah, but you see everybody

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>else doing something, so it's like fuck it, and everybody

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>is trying to cope and deal with something in their life.

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>The next person might be telling them, man, this is

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>what I do because I told them, mother nig I get.

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't give a funk who I shoot. I'm cool.

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Let me say something real quick to me. A lot

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff is systemic because if you go back,

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you can go back to the nineteen thirties. In the

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>black community. It seems like every decade we get a

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>tech with a new drug. In the sixties it was heroin.

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember, you know, even two sixties and seventies it

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>was heroin. I would go into the back. I remember

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>living this apartment building when I was eight years old, right,

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and I would go to the back and it would

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>be needles all over the place, and I remember I

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>was outside with my shoes off, planning. I remember my

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>mama snapped me up and beat my ass. I told

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you don't walk off this house without no shoes on.

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't understand. I was a little hid on

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>why she was so mad, mad mad, But she understood.

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I stepped on one of them needles. I could work

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>around the overdose. You know, this was the seventies, you

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>know who those I believe the ades was around even

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>back then, but they didn't know what it was, you know,

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>but anything could have happened, right, and so we had

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>we went from heroin, we want to crack. Then they

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>came back with the you know, with the peels because

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>if you remember in the eighties they went through a rash.

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, this OPIOU epidemic is nothing new because at

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>one time they had hospitals pain management so to speak,

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>hospitals that opened up in and it was always in

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the hood to where pretty much you going that motherfucker,

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>they gonna write you a prescription for whatever you want

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to get. I mean they was taking quay, lose and

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>ship back then, you know, yeah, you know, and here

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>we go again. Did you get the lean and we've

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>lost so many. Then it's then it's just really pervasive

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>in the music, Like, um, I'm a three six Mafia fan.

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>They all no qualms, are telling you we snore, we snore,

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>we're sniffering, we're drinking, we're pouring up in his motherfucker.

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Then in U g K what we're two of the

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>first you know acts that that made it known that

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>about snorting. You know they sport the cocaine. Because I'm

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you this my pops too. You know, my

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>pop is the sixties nigga when they wore the suits

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and they had the pinky rings with the little they

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>got a cram and their pinky ring and ship and

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>they you know what I mean, doing that. My pop said,

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>he did that. Never once got a dig He said, Man,

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I did that ship the party with the party. He said,

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they put in this ship. Now

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I ain't working with him, but that's just what they did.

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>That was like some baller ship. When you know when

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you that was a baller ship. Nigga happens ringing on

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and he got him a Graham up and that motherfucker

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and he just floating doing his thing. That was the same.

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, that was the same way when cocaine came out.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>When cocaine came out, everybody was punching the workers. Everybody

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>can do a learner to and go to work and

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>be productive. Then when when they come with this other

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>ship and now they dope things and everybody stretching. Yeah,

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you had every every hood had that guy to get

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the new ship. And he always had a smoker, somebody

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that smoked weed to test that ship. Yea, And they

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 1>went off a word of out from that one motherfucker

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>that tested and was bent over in the corner somewhere.

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Now everybody want that drunk because you get fucked up.

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>That's what they're looking for. When they get high. They're

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna spend their money so they can get sucked up.

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>And so think about go ahead, I'm sorry, James, go ahead. No,

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, and think about how how

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>cold it is today, bro. Nowadays with this fitting all ship.

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Whoever got the ship that mother the hot pack the

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>niggas are dying from. They want that ship. That's some

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>cold ship. Whoever got the hot pack of catching bodies,

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>that's the ship that they want, you know what I mean.

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>And the fitting all is just such a new you know, Pariah,

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>It's such a new threat because it's so the instability

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>of it, you know what I mean, the ship all

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.720
<v Speaker 1>over the place, Yeah, like just a little grain because

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the ship be dope so fucked up, you know. And

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>even these pills with these faith, these rock seas and

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.439
<v Speaker 1>these fake as ox seas and all of that ship

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>they should be having fitting all and ship all in it.

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know that's how motherfucker's be o dn like

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>like you said, like you said, with culture though, because

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 1>think about the code that black you know what he said.

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I knew the purpose fake, but I ate it anyway,

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. You know, and you don't

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 1>know what the fucking that bitch to be rap boys,

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you don't know what it is. And you know what,

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you something. I was told to one

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of my own boys the other day and he was

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 1>told about his nineteen year old like the smoke weed

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 1>and ship like that. Right, he was like, I'm a

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>whoop his ass. I said, Bro, I'm gonna tell you something.

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>You're almost better off because that niggas go smoke weed

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 1>if you want twenty way or now, you're almost better

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 1>off going to get dispensing. Just get this ship for

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>him and say, nig, don't do that ship and this

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I was here, you go, because I'm gonna tell you

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna try it anyway. Bro. Yeah, we can sit

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>up here, his parents, We can sit up here as

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>parents and look at our kids through rose colored lenses

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>just like we went off the right ship. Yeah, big experiment.

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>You just up on my kids and know what the

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>time and he was, man, just behind nobody. Don't be passed,

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>no joints with no motherfucker because give some to the

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>here you walking around this motherfucker, you'll be stuck in

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>the twelfth dimension. I know. I know. People just smoke

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>ship that never came back from it. Mind in the

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>right sense, you know. And and I think that's important

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to like what you the point that you're making. Man,

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>we have to be one hunted with our kids. You know,

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with my kids. You know, my kids,

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 1>especially my oldest daughter. You know, I had my first

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>shot when I was sixteen, and you know I laced her.

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I raised her like almost like an oldest son. You

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And you know I told her

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 1>about drugs and weed. I mean, truth be told. You know,

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>WE was my hustle back then, so I even, you know,

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>to an extent, exposed her to that side of it

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>of getting money, you know. I mean, you know, there's

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 1>no handbook for parenting, you know what I mean, that's

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>what happens. But um, you know, and I always told her, man,

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 1>let the things have to have it, you know. Now

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>fast forward. You know, my daughter thirty years old, she's

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 1>a grown woman. I respect her. She smokes weed. That's

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>her choice, you know, Um, and I don't judge her

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>about it. You know what I'm saying. Uh, you know,

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 1>she can't smoke in our house when she's over. She

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>asked her to step out, smoke outside, be respectful. But

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that you know, and you know,

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 1>back in the day, they used to say WE was

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>a gateway drug. Um. I don't know that to be true,

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>but I believe for some people it can be with

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>addictive personalities and people like James said that could be

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>dealing with you know, some type of self medication situation.

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And they wanted to hire. You know, we was the beginning.

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>How can I get hired? How can I get hired?

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:46.280
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, so um, you know, but

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 1>but like I keep saying, you know, what is the

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 1>what is the alternative? You know? You know it's that

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 1>are listening, Like what could be the you know instead

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>of trying to self medicate and and and get high

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>and try to run away from your problem? Was like,

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.280
<v Speaker 1>what do they do? You know? Do they get help?

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>What are they running from? Do they go talk to somebody?

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:08.919
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what? What? What advice will we get them?

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying? You know what I think

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you have to be very open and honest with your children. Again,

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I know plenty of pearans to put the rose colored

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>lands on. And I'm gonna tell you the way society

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>use everybody and knew what your kids are doing, but

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>you you'll be sitting up there be the only dumbass

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>sitting in La la land and not knowing what's going on.

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 1>You have to give your kids to reel about stuff

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>and tell them maybe look, if you try that, you

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>may die. Because my biggest thing if I was always

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>scared of death because when I was younger, I was

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>allowed the opportunity to experiment. The big thing in Ohio

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 1>was what all the white homies would do. They would

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>be on that black tar heroin. They would had that

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>black tar heir when it was cheap, like everybody had

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>that ship and they would be in their smoking that ship.

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 1>They tried to get me to try that ship one day,

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>but I remember talking to my pops about that anything

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.320
<v Speaker 1>they had h and I wasn't working with it. Well,

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm cool on that. I don't want

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:01.959
<v Speaker 1>none of that ship because I see how this nig

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 1>over in the corner doing this, he nodding off and ship.

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to funk with it. So my thing

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>was this. I actually tried weed when I was younger

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 1>and didn't funk with it. I just I didn't. It

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>wasn't for me. My pops is my pop smoke weed

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>back then and still is a regular weed smoker. And

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that motherfucker was an account one of the sharpest do was.

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I know, I've never known him to do the other ship.

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:24.879
<v Speaker 1>He told me said, yeah, in the sixties, I did

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>this and that. But my pops ain't never been no

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>fiend as nigga. But he he got his little um,

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>his little cigar box the crib with his little weed

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.720
<v Speaker 1>and he brought them up with joint. He's sitting if smoked,

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>that motherfucker with his woman and watch TV and going

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>about his business right and pop on upstairs. You know. So,

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest thing quote we have to do

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:49.359
<v Speaker 1>is realized, man, that we are under attack, and the

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>only way we go continue standing under the attack if

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't start keeping the reel with ourselves and start saying, man, look,

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>we gotta start making different choices. We gotta start looking

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>at alternatives. U. We have to start expressing our feelings

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>because black men have a tendency the car departmentalized ship.

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>But we have ship in our mind and we just

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>keep it in there and anything. It's like anything else.

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.919
<v Speaker 1>If we feel the water balloon up to full water,

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen. This will eventually explode. That's what happened.

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>That's when people have nervous breakdowns. That's when you see

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the little rampages that you see. That's why you see

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 1>so much real rage. Now the people actually don't got

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>a problem with each other, but motherfucker, the stress level

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 1>is so high. It's just that person in that car

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that might have cut you off, that may not be

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 1>thinking about you. He laid for work, so he's trying

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 1>to get the work. He go around you and cut

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.439
<v Speaker 1>you off. You're mad. Now you chased this motherfucker down

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>up the road and you're open his ask when he

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>get off the car, you might get shot and lose

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>your life all because you didn't have nobody to talk to.

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 1>You didn't want to express your feelings. You know what

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Because you think about it, life can be

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 1>stressful in the motherfucker. You've got people especially and what

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>were yet right now, You've got people whose financial who

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 1>financially have not recovered since COVID. Because I'm gonna tell

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 1>you one thing, had that king about COVID and all

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>that stimulus money. You had some people that was making

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 1>more money than they ever made. You know, you had

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy that worked at McDonald's. He getting unemployment. Now

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>now he's getting eight hundred of thousand dollars a week.

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>To him, that's the world. Now, he don't want to

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>go back to that job. But mcdownalds or that job.

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>But mcdownalds ain't dead for him no more. And he's depressed.

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>When you can't take care of your family and provide

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot, a lot, he said, I remember the darkest

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>period I had, man and I suffered from depression, and

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been very open about it. I was suffered from depression.

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Before the darkest period I've ever had, I was working

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>for a publishing company. I was making a quarter million

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.359
<v Speaker 1>dollars a year. I was doing my thing. I had

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 1>a black card or whatever I wanted to go get

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.399
<v Speaker 1>it if I would, and bought a ten thousand dollars suit.

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>They won. Question. We was making a lot of money

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:52.760
<v Speaker 1>back then. Um, I was getting a lot of money

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>from other little stuff. You know, I'm managing glasses and

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.359
<v Speaker 1>glasses and cracking at that time, so I'm getting money

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>from everywhere. I'm getting money and nothing lumps, you know

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.879
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I got good money. I remember when

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I lost that job. I lost my identity almost and

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I said after that, it was hard for me to

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>go back because I was making money even before that, right,

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 1>it was hard for me to go back to the

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>idea of what am I going to do now? Because

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 1>when you're in the industry, you know this cord that's

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the best time to get a job. I had people

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>from Turtle Music offer me jobs. I had people from

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Universal Music offer me jobs. I wouldn't leave because they

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 1>couldn't max with that one company was giving me right.

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 1>So once I lost that job and I kind of

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>was being arrogant, my u brisk. I can do that

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>now through constling years later and say that was my fault,

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 1>because you know what, I remember when they closed the

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>office down, the lady told me, she said, well you

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>can continue working from the house. But I was so

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 1>arrogant like that. You know, They're gonna cut my pin

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>in half and I'm gonna work at the house, ain'tle

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I got something that ass. I quit calling them from

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>them everybody else. So what you're doing in mind right now?

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh well I'm no longer with them. Oh let me

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 1>get back with you. And I learned how the industry

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 1>work because those people and actually wanted me. They wanted

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>me to go, and there appeal for some of the

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 1>people I brought over there. You gotta remember I'd had

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>my first platinum record with the ice cream paining job ship,

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>right that was. I had something to do with that record.

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I signed that producer. I found him and actually you know,

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>helped put that whole thing together. Um, we had some

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 1>other stuff going on. We had an opportunity at that

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 1>time to sign Kenfred Lamar they passed on. We could

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 1>have actually signed the whole TV roster. They passed on it.

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, when I thought about all that stuff, and man,

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:45.879
<v Speaker 1>I was just kind of stuck. Man Like, I went

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>through a period of um where I was just almost

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>the only way I could describe it as a mobilarity,

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 1>to where I just couldn't move. I was just like stuck.

0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Every day I woke up at twelve o'clock, kind of

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:04.439
<v Speaker 1>walked around his motherfucking the days. Man, you know, would

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>go sometimes a day or two it. I was washing

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>my ass dog, and I was just gained a bunch

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 1>of fucking weight. The little bit of money I did.

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>That is when you got it. Back then, I wouldn't

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.279
<v Speaker 1>save the ship dog, and I was thinking, you know,

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 1>when I put the job, but I just traded. I

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>got this man, that money went so fucking fast because

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you still have those same bills, and you still have

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the same lifestyle, you know, And when you wake up

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a look outside and see tolds getting cars getting told

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>off the driveway and ship they came to the point, dog,

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I even get a funk. I sat up here and

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>watched them, told my escalator way, and I was just

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>so fucking just stuck, man, And you really, you know,

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you. That's where my wife leaned being

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>on me. And she started telling me, hey, let's go

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to church. You know, I don't wanna go to church.

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Once I started going back to my roofs dog and

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 1>hearing the word of God, I realized that I turned

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>into a man that I didn't want to be. I

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:04.439
<v Speaker 1>wasn't no good to my family. Um. I went back

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 1>in the regular world for a minute. Court. I went

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and got me a job. You know what I realized,

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I said, you know what, I got an education. I'm

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna get me a job, you know what I mean.

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>So I wouldn't have got me a sales job. And

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I went back into regular world for a little bit. Man,

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I started coaching my son's football team. And so really

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:23.840
<v Speaker 1>were most people leaning the drugs. I leaned in the

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>guy the family. Yeah, I'm leaning the guy of family.

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>And my wife she really helped me through that period. Dog,

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>She really helped because it was a very dark period

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>for me. Ain't thinking happened. Dog. I thought of killing

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>myself because I I was identifying. You know, I went

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>from being this provider to where whenever she needed something.

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:44.959
<v Speaker 1>Dog Like my wife, you know, when my daughter was born,

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>she took two years off of work. You know, it

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, you don't worry about that. You gotta think

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 1>about the court. At that time, when I had my

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 1>situation with Mind of Music, they assigned me as a

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>writer and I had a couple of deals. I had

0:45:58.200 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to deal with a company called Peak would go for

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>an England and they were paying me nine dollars a

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>record nine nine hours, but nine pounds a record. At

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that time, the pound was like two to one, so

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I was wind up getting seventeen dollars a record. So

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't doing them selling five six thousand pieces. But

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I was releasing albums every three months. I was distributing

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>all that you know Big eight during that time, I

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>was distripping all the dog ship over there. So I

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:23.719
<v Speaker 1>just had an abundance of money because I got these

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>people paying me a quarter million dollars a year. I'm

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>making about thirty forty rats a month from just selling

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 1>records dog overseas at the time. And then what happened

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:36.280
<v Speaker 1>was that ship slowed these you remember when Drama got busted. Yeah,

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>but drama got cracked. That's when all that ship, even

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>though my ship was legitimate, anything that you didn't talk

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>about drama from Atlanta. Yeah, when he got busted with

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, I was doing the same stuff he

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 1>was doing, but I was doing it with legal stuff.

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 1>But they were records that wasn't necessarily cleared from the

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>label like Das. You know he had ship was distributing

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>snoops mixtapes and you know you figured like this, you

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 1>know Big eight, Big eight I was a CD. He

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 1>cool with that. I'm I'm talking and he was on

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the CDs because it's just us lying, ribbing nobody. But

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>it's an usle Dog. I used to walk around dog,

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.879
<v Speaker 1>and then I was do tours over in Japan and stuff. Bro.

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I would come back home with just rows of money

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 1>dog Like. I remember one time he got so bad man.

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Remember when he used to win him to both chains. Yeah,

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember one time I had like thirty five dollars

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:26.880
<v Speaker 1>in one of my pockets and my wife watched them

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and the money got kind of fucked up. I wasn't

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 1>like shot. I gave that ship to my kids though. Yeah,

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>it was just like that dog. I didn't have no

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 1>respect to what was going on. And when you lose

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that dog, and I'm gonna tell you God got away, man.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>And when your eagle get out of control, God has

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:44.399
<v Speaker 1>a way of stripping you down to your very minimum dog. Okay,

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to listen, I'm about to strip your

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 1>ass down and and make you back. You know, people,

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:51.879
<v Speaker 1>you're back up again. I learned. I learned a less

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>than humility dog. And it really was a very humbling

0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and life changing experience. Because that's why I talked to

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>people when I when I tell people, oh man, somebody

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:04.320
<v Speaker 1>to kill themselves. That week I was saying all that

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in that week, bro, I said, you can you don't

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.280
<v Speaker 1>never know what no men and going through. When you're depressing,

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>you are in a black hole. Literally, you feel no happiness,

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to be living and and you know

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 1>suicide that that happens when you're coping. Mechanisms have failed,

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. When you lose hope, um,

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I think like sometimes what people have

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 1>to understand is when you can identify a purpose in

0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 1>your life. When you identify a purpose, then you tend

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>to make you know different choices. You know, what I'm saying.

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Um but yeah, you know that depression ship. Like you said,

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:39.719
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a it's a dark hole. And you know,

0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>after my mom passed away, I went into a deep depression.

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 1>And like you said, I used to you know, everybody

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:47.279
<v Speaker 1>else in the house would get up. My kids will

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 1>go to school, my wife will go to work. I

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>would just lay in the in the room, sometimes with

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.439
<v Speaker 1>the TV not not on, you know what I mean.

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 1>And and I can remember when everybody would come home,

0:48:57.800 --> 0:48:59.439
<v Speaker 1>I would get up and act like I've been doing

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>some ship like you know what I mean. And you

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 1>know my money was straight at the time, so I

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily have to be doing anything. But you know,

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>um man, that was the U you know, a really

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 1>bad time. But you know, at the end of the day,

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you know again in this world, because you know this

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 1>world as a motherfucker, it would beat you down and

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>it will hold you down to keep you down. This

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 1>world would literally stick its long arm to the elbow,

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 1>up your ass and wave you around like a puppet.

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:27.359
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. And and and so what

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I found is you you have to be mentally strong,

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 1>spiritually strong, emostly strong, physically strong in this world, you

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:37.879
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And I think a lot of people,

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:39.920
<v Speaker 1>like I said, you have to do your work. I

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 1>had to learn to do my work. Like you deal

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 1>with anxiety. You know. Anxiety is worried about ship that

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 1>ain't even happened. You're you're worried about the future. You know, depression.

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times you're stuck in the past. You're

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>worried about ship you can't even change. It ain't even

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 1>exist anymore, you know what I mean. So I think

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 1>when you consider yourself and and and find and be present,

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and then you know almost like the a A say

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 1>what they saying that they say, you know, uh, what

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:11.360
<v Speaker 1>is it? You know accepted things? You cannot change that

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's the real that's the truth. You know, you

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>have to be president. And I think, like I say,

0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>when you feel like you have something to live for

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and you have a purpose. That's why I tell people, man,

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:22.440
<v Speaker 1>be a purpose chase and not a paper chaser. You

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Because you know, chasing money that

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that that don't give you nothing. You know, money, But

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 1>when you identify a purpose, when you really feel like, damn,

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm here for something, and then you're giving. Sometimes giving

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:40.840
<v Speaker 1>is just affecting other people, you know, because people remember

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>how they how you made them feel. People don't remember

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the car you had, the jury you had, all that bullshit,

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:47.839
<v Speaker 1>but people remember how you made them feel. And that's

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 1>your leg. So and then and then sometimes just got

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>damn meditate. I meditate every day and I take inventory

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>on my life, right, I think about, you know, the

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>things that I need, the things that I don't, situations

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and different things like that to try to so so

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, unfuncked my mind and keep it as clear

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>as possible. So I think that, you know, and I'm

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 1>saying all this to say, these are tools, and these

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 1>are ways that people can train their minds where they

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:19.720
<v Speaker 1>don't have to the further drugs. You know what I'm saying.

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Just deal with your ship, sift through your ship. And

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I know for some you know, it may be easier

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:28.800
<v Speaker 1>said than done. You know, everybody's you know, mental for

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.840
<v Speaker 1>to tow and emotional intelligence isn't developed like that, but

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:35.160
<v Speaker 1>with practice it can be. Because see, the language that

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm giving now is not something that I knew years ago.

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>This is over time, you know what I'm saying. Hopefully

0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I could share it with somebody that's going through it

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 1>now and they could hear it and it could inspire

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:50.440
<v Speaker 1>them to say, oh shift, I'm not alone. Because depression

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:53.320
<v Speaker 1>will make you have make you feel like you by yourself,

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 1>like like God is picking on you, like like God

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.959
<v Speaker 1>don't like me. He just sucking over me and every

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.799
<v Speaker 1>body else. You know. But you know, people, you know,

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>everybody's fighting a battle that you know, our battles that

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 1>know what body knows about you know what I'm saying.

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>One thing I found without man with dealing with my therapist,

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 1>right because you know your therapist still go to therapy

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 1>twice a month now, you know, because there's certain things

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.640
<v Speaker 1>that man, we need to have conversation sometimes with people

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 1>that you may nothing necessarily I could talk to my

0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:25.520
<v Speaker 1>wife about anything, but some stuff I can't talk to

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>my wife about. Everything is some stuff. As a man

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that I go through the shot will have no clue

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:33.359
<v Speaker 1>to show, you know, you know, he's supposed to let

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.359
<v Speaker 1>them know. We gotta shoulder that ships as unhealthy as

0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 1>it is, that's just what it is. You know what

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:41.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. That's us as protector. Sometimes we gotta protect them,

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, we may not know. It's been times where fuck,

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I'm gonna do certain ship. I

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>don't you know, ship maybe a little worse than what

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.360
<v Speaker 1>my old lady may know. But I showed her that,

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, because as a man, as

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a protector, that's what I do for my kids. I

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 1>never wanted my kids or my old lady to be

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.839
<v Speaker 1>frettened about nothing. You and me, I've always been kind

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of a leader, right, So it's like with me, you know,

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:09.520
<v Speaker 1>even with me running this network, I have multiple families

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that depend on me, right, So I remember, man, I

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 1>would like, really, I don't think people had no idea

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:19.560
<v Speaker 1>how many months I would forfeit getting paid to make

0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 1>sure that they had some money. And it's just not

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 1>one person, you're talking about four or five different people.

0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 1>And my therapist told me one day, he said, you know,

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 1>to dye on self, be true. You can't be a

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 1>blessing to nobody if you funked up. You gotta make

0:53:33.560 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 1>sure you straight or you're not gonna be able to

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:37.840
<v Speaker 1>help nobody. And then one thing he told me to

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>is take responsibility for situations that you create. Because I

0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>remember at one time it led to me having a problem.

0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to put everybody on that one time. Anybody

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:50.439
<v Speaker 1>that can't I wanted to put them on, but didn't.

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I realized everybody is not worth Everybody can't go. My

0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 1>mom used to tell me that everybody can't go. Everybody

0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:00.200
<v Speaker 1>can't go. And it's been people that I love that

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I've had to ex out my life just because it

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 1>was unhealthy for me to be around them. And it's

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 1>just like I had to take care of me. I

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:09.880
<v Speaker 1>had to take care you know, if this person is

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:13.280
<v Speaker 1>not bringing nothing genuine to know the type of value,

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:16.040
<v Speaker 1>what is he wrong for? If he's you know, giving

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:19.799
<v Speaker 1>you bad information and making you feel even worse, why

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:23.600
<v Speaker 1>even have them around? Yeah, because you know a phrase

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of the addicts that misery loves company is very true.

0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 1>You would have people going to this stuff and they

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 1>would track you down the stuff. It's like dog. One

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:32.920
<v Speaker 1>thing my uncle Doug told me, and I thought it

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 1>was the coldest in the world. He told me. I

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 1>asked him one day, man, what were your own? Boy?

0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Let me when he said, man, I had to stop

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:42.320
<v Speaker 1>working with him myself. Why Because he said that motherfucker

0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 1>always got some ship going on. He said it just

0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:47.719
<v Speaker 1>like that. He said, every time I leave them mother

0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Funcker's house, I'm depressed. I stopped with him because he

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:53.839
<v Speaker 1>was an unlucky motherfucker, and I learned that that's real game.

0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:57.080
<v Speaker 1>You have to not not that you get insensitive for people,

0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:01.640
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes you need to hear. Everybody helps ship. I mean,

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:05.319
<v Speaker 1>energies are contagious. Energies are contagious, and sometimes you have

0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 1>to moderate that ship, like you could care for someone

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:10.279
<v Speaker 1>you know. But I always say, you don't have to

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:13.360
<v Speaker 1>set yourself on fire to keep other people warm, you

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:16.280
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like you have to know you know, man,

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:19.400
<v Speaker 1>energy is is that's everything where we put out what

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:22.359
<v Speaker 1>we receive and we have to control that because yeah,

0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 1>that ship can be parasitic, especially when it's not reciprocated.

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what the energy is a motherfucker's it's like

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I knowiced thumb. Whenever something good would happen,

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>you get certain people that won't never call you. You

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 1>don't hear from something good, but the moment they think

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 1>they found something where they gotta barrel over you. Oh man,

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you saw it with such a suckceed about you, so

0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 1>with such and such they send you missed, just the

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 1>videos and ship. It's like I have to tell the

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:49.840
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's stop sending me ship. Man. I got a computer

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:51.399
<v Speaker 1>with this motherfucker. I don't need to see that ship.

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't care about what they said. I entertained myself

0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:57.759
<v Speaker 1>with that stuff. Let them do what they go do. Yeah,

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 1>let them do what they go doing. Another thing I've

0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 1>learned in therapy to court is that you have to

0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:11.239
<v Speaker 1>take time out for yourself sometimes. I've learned. Man. My

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:13.279
<v Speaker 1>therapist told me one day, he said, I want you

0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:15.399
<v Speaker 1>to cut your phone off. You know, I don't mean

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:17.479
<v Speaker 1>just cut your phone off for a thing. I want

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:19.400
<v Speaker 1>you to just cut this buttfuck off outside. You know,

0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 1>because my mama got my wife's number. You' wanna get me,

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 1>he said, cut your phone off a week. I've learned.

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 1>The worst thing in our lives right now is this

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:32.400
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker right here, because for the first time in history,

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>do you remember when we just had home phones? James, Yeah,

0:56:36.920 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Moco call your house. They catch you when they catch you, right,

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:43.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, when you land up with your wife somewhere,

0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:46.879
<v Speaker 1>your kids and Disneyland, that motherfucker ring the first thing

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to do is what's that Now you wind

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:51.879
<v Speaker 1>up spending the time next you can have with your family.

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:53.839
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna tell you something. Time is the most

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:57.040
<v Speaker 1>precious commodity on this planet because when we lose time

0:56:57.120 --> 0:56:59.799
<v Speaker 1>court we are never going to get that time back.

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 1>You can't get it back. It's not like you've got

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>time banked up somewhere. Well you know what, I'm gonna

0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 1>go take me a couple of months out or I

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>want to do that. No, you're not gonna get that

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 1>time back. So you have to value your time. Especially

0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I hear so many older people want to lose their spouse.

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 1>The first thing they say is I wish I would

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 1>have spent more time. Yeah, we all say that when

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.400
<v Speaker 1>we lose loved ones. You know what I'm saying, because

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's almost like that that that emotion of

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:29.320
<v Speaker 1>of of of you know, guilt or or regret is

0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 1>stronger than gratitude. You know what I'm saying. Um, you know,

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:35.520
<v Speaker 1>but you know, hey, like I say, man, life is

0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 1>hard as ship bro. You know it's But but what

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I've learned too is you know what what life? Life

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Speaker 1>is hard, but sometimes humans complicated. To be very honest,

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 1>with you. You have to exercise a level of funcket

0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:51.960
<v Speaker 1>in life. You have to sure, you gotta understand the

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>controls and illusion. The best thing that we can do

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 1>is try to influence the outcome that we want. But

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:00.200
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, it's gonna be what

0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:02.920
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be. So you know, all we can do

0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 1>is do our best, you know, be the best people

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:08.240
<v Speaker 1>that we can be. You know. Um, I was having

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 1>a conversation with someone the other day. I tend to

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of have these conversations with millennials, and you know,

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:16.920
<v Speaker 1>millennials are built a lot different, you know, you know,

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was talking to him about grace and mercy

0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and forgiveness. You know, we carried so much unnecessary baggage

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:27.600
<v Speaker 1>in life. That's what that's what contributes to depression and

0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:30.840
<v Speaker 1>anxiety and drug use because we got all these unnecessary

0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 1>fucking baggage. You know, you gotta learn how to cut

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:36.360
<v Speaker 1>that ship off. Sometimes we are own worse enemy because

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 1>we were in our heads with a bunch of ship,

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Um, you know, pass ship.

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>We all got pass ship, you know, But at the

0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:44.720
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, that ship don't exist no more,

0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, what I'm saying that we're carrying it around.

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 1>So I think, you know, just going to the self work,

0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, just doing the work. You know. And one

0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 1>thing about me, a quality that that I have is

0:58:56.440 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I can be a hundred percent honest with myself, no

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:02.480
<v Speaker 1>matter how uncomfortable the situation is. Many people lie to themselves,

0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you start trying. It's one thing that's

0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to slick somebody else, but when you try to

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:13.840
<v Speaker 1>start slicking yourself, you funked up. You know. Yeah, So

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I always encourage people, man, just do the work,

0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:20.000
<v Speaker 1>because everybody's self work is different, you know what i mean. Like,

0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, with me, I knew I had them. You know,

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 1>even though I'm cool and I'm calm and I'm reserved,

0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I have a very vengeful spirit, you know what I'm saying.

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:32.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you do something to me, it's like

0:59:32.400 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 1>like I'm I'm gonna get you. You know what I'm saying.

0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 1>If it's ten years from now, like I'm not gonna forget.

0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 1>And I knew that that wasn't healthy. I was like, okay,

0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting out bad energy even with that, you know

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:45.080
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, that's why I say grace and mercy,

0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 1>forgiveness is usually for you. It's for you always, not

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.840
<v Speaker 1>even for the other motherfucker. You know. So when you're

0:59:50.880 --> 0:59:53.960
<v Speaker 1>carrying in those gripes and those that that's heavy baggage

0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and all that ship weighs you down and it alters

0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 1>your perspective because you know, perspective is the biggest thing,

0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's fun is all about how you see. Ship

1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:04.920
<v Speaker 1>is your disposition, you know what I'm saying, and it

1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 1>it tends to cater to your attitude as well. And

1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:10.680
<v Speaker 1>your attitude is gonna reflect the ship that you you know, uh,

1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that you receive, you know. So yeah, I think it's

1:00:13.800 --> 1:00:16.240
<v Speaker 1>just doing the self work, bro, you know, just doing

1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:19.200
<v Speaker 1>that health work. You know. One thing I want to say, Court,

1:00:19.800 --> 1:00:24.960
<v Speaker 1>is that this right here, Um, we don't have time machines.

1:00:25.680 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's one thing you know, I learned my therapist.

1:00:27.720 --> 1:00:29.480
<v Speaker 1>He said, you know, because I had all this stuff

1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:31.320
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't realize it's bothering me. That was in

1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the past, right he said, Man, check this out. We

1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:37.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have time machines. Why are you worried about that ship.

1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:39.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not like you can go back and correct it.

1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Because even if you did, even if we could, you

1:00:41.400 --> 1:00:43.160
<v Speaker 1>can may go back and funk up something and you

1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:45.120
<v Speaker 1>come back in your life, you've got another problem all

1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that you're dealing with. One thing about it, bro, we

1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:51.520
<v Speaker 1>are going to always have issues. We are always going

1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to have complications. And I don't care if you've got

1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:57.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty million dollars in the bank, that don't matter. Nobody's

1:00:57.160 --> 1:01:01.920
<v Speaker 1>in nobody don't matter, That don't matter. You hear about

1:01:01.920 --> 1:01:04.800
<v Speaker 1>people all the time worth thirty forty million dollars putting

1:01:04.800 --> 1:01:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a pistol in their mouth and just ding all because

1:01:08.120 --> 1:01:10.160
<v Speaker 1>they cannot deal with it all. All the money they

1:01:10.200 --> 1:01:13.400
<v Speaker 1>have is not go sure the elves that they got

1:01:13.440 --> 1:01:16.160
<v Speaker 1>going in their life. But this is one thing I

1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:19.080
<v Speaker 1>want to say, Man, if you've got a problem with drugs,

1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:22.520
<v Speaker 1>go get some help. Drugs ain't drugs, ain't nomber the

1:01:22.520 --> 1:01:25.760
<v Speaker 1>band day. They're not gonna fix nothing. They don't fix

1:01:25.800 --> 1:01:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the damn thing. All they're gonna do is make it,

1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:31.520
<v Speaker 1>make it, make it worse, and find some you know,

1:01:31.640 --> 1:01:34.480
<v Speaker 1>find a spiritual You know, I'm not saying you have

1:01:34.560 --> 1:01:38.240
<v Speaker 1>to be a Christian or a Muslim, but whatever that

1:01:38.240 --> 1:01:41.120
<v Speaker 1>that moves you to to peace. You know what I'm saying,

1:01:41.200 --> 1:01:44.720
<v Speaker 1>and to believe in something higher than yourself, you know

1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:47.160
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, and something you can be relied upon,

1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:50.680
<v Speaker 1>like make the necessary changes. That's really what this life

1:01:50.680 --> 1:01:53.520
<v Speaker 1>ship is is to continue to evolve. If you don't

1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:55.840
<v Speaker 1>evolve or nigga dissolved, you know what I'm saying, So

1:01:56.120 --> 1:01:58.400
<v Speaker 1>you can't stay in the same place. Be open to

1:01:58.480 --> 1:02:01.760
<v Speaker 1>new ideas, like from the hood, just like all of y'all,

1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Like I've done some of

1:02:04.960 --> 1:02:07.560
<v Speaker 1>this ship. You know I was. I ain't gonna say

1:02:07.600 --> 1:02:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I was as gangster as James, but you know I

1:02:10.600 --> 1:02:13.760
<v Speaker 1>did my ship right, you know. But so at this point,

1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:16.600
<v Speaker 1>but I had to allow myself to evolve and accept

1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:18.600
<v Speaker 1>new ideas, you know what I'm saying. So I think

1:02:18.640 --> 1:02:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, you know, it's easier to blame

1:02:21.520 --> 1:02:24.280
<v Speaker 1>than it is to change. It's easy to say, mom, daddy,

1:02:24.840 --> 1:02:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, it wasn't it was this, it was dad,

1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it's the homies, it's this, that and the other. No,

1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:31.800
<v Speaker 1>at some point, motherfucker, you making choices. You know. Anybody

1:02:31.880 --> 1:02:33.880
<v Speaker 1>that don't allow you to grow past that person, Like

1:02:33.920 --> 1:02:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you something, they're gonna fall off. From you.

1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:40.200
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna fall out here. The worst thing I ever heard,

1:02:40.560 --> 1:02:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not gonna get the singing name because it

1:02:42.240 --> 1:02:45.840
<v Speaker 1>ain't the pop that I heard somebody saying, I told

1:02:45.880 --> 1:02:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you I could turn them back into Maum James, and

1:02:49.240 --> 1:02:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it sounded so evil, bro, it was kind of like, damn,

1:02:52.200 --> 1:02:53.920
<v Speaker 1>So you just want to homely, just to go back

1:02:53.960 --> 1:02:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and just sunk all this ship off now because he's

1:02:56.040 --> 1:02:58.480
<v Speaker 1>making progress. When this life it bothers you that bad?

1:02:59.120 --> 1:03:01.080
<v Speaker 1>You really you really want to see this man back

1:03:01.120 --> 1:03:06.480
<v Speaker 1>on the block on his ass. Yeah, they ally, they

1:03:06.560 --> 1:03:09.640
<v Speaker 1>still listen. There's powers that be. That's the devil, bro.

1:03:09.920 --> 1:03:12.360
<v Speaker 1>It's niggas trying to trick me out of my spot.

1:03:12.480 --> 1:03:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Is niggas trying to trick James, trick you? And I

1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:17.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't have them. I didn't almost been tricked to. You

1:03:17.560 --> 1:03:19.960
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, I don't almost fail for the

1:03:20.000 --> 1:03:23.920
<v Speaker 1>fucking banana tailpipe. But yeah, man, like that's that's why

1:03:23.920 --> 1:03:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I say Nigga's especially Nigga's just doing something. Nigga's gotta

1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:31.080
<v Speaker 1>be emostly strong, mentally strong, you know what I'm saying,

1:03:31.160 --> 1:03:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Spiritually strong, all of that ship. You gotta keep that

1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:36.360
<v Speaker 1>arm wrong when you nigga, it's a war outside. That's

1:03:36.400 --> 1:03:39.080
<v Speaker 1>how I look at my life. There's a war outside,

1:03:39.120 --> 1:03:43.000
<v Speaker 1>so many fucking wars. It's financial war, emotional war. It's

1:03:43.080 --> 1:03:45.440
<v Speaker 1>bitches trying to get at me, trying to funk up

1:03:45.480 --> 1:03:49.480
<v Speaker 1>my my, my relationship and temp me. It's it's niggas

1:03:49.480 --> 1:03:51.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to you know, play with me and trick me

1:03:51.840 --> 1:03:54.160
<v Speaker 1>off the streets. Is niggas trying to rob me, A

1:03:54.320 --> 1:03:56.680
<v Speaker 1>police trying to arrest me? Is you know what I'm

1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:59.680
<v Speaker 1>saying like, And nigga gotta just you know, keep it

1:03:59.720 --> 1:04:03.880
<v Speaker 1>tie bro right. A moultitude of motherfucker's and you know

1:04:03.960 --> 1:04:07.360
<v Speaker 1>we call them haters, no man, but there's people out

1:04:07.400 --> 1:04:10.240
<v Speaker 1>there that really can't stand and see somebody else content,

1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:12.560
<v Speaker 1>so they want to throw everybody of misery and way

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<v Speaker 1>they're feeling like. I'll tell everybody all the time if

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<v Speaker 1>you catch your troll in your comments me, I don't

1:04:18.160 --> 1:04:19.680
<v Speaker 1>go out my way to look at ship that don't

1:04:19.800 --> 1:04:22.720
<v Speaker 1>enterest me. But you have the same motherfucker all in

1:04:22.760 --> 1:04:25.800
<v Speaker 1>your mix. He telling you about this over you ain't

1:04:25.840 --> 1:04:27.800
<v Speaker 1>this and man, you'd be thinking, Man, I'm pretty sure

1:04:27.800 --> 1:04:30.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing better than your bum mass Yeah, real talk.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just tell by the comment and nigga. You

1:04:33.080 --> 1:04:35.040
<v Speaker 1>can tell all about the nigga with what come out

1:04:35.040 --> 1:04:37.600
<v Speaker 1>of his mouth. If a nigga is hating all the

1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:40.360
<v Speaker 1>time and gossiping and talking about other niggas, he's talking

1:04:40.360 --> 1:04:43.160
<v Speaker 1>about you too. He gossip in about you too, you

1:04:43.200 --> 1:04:45.080
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So I always say, like I

1:04:45.200 --> 1:04:47.680
<v Speaker 1>used to tell motherfucker's all the time. Man, you hang around,

1:04:48.000 --> 1:04:52.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, nine broken niggas, nine negative niggas. You're

1:04:52.320 --> 1:04:55.160
<v Speaker 1>finn to be the tent. You know, you could tell

1:04:55.440 --> 1:04:57.840
<v Speaker 1>what the nigga owned. You just let him talk, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we go ind and right there, that was perfect. Well,

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