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Wait, no, kidden, 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:10.880 did I get special music on the intro? I don't 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:12.320 think you had that last time I was here. Well, 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.160 last time you're here was episode fifty three, so it's 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.080 been a hundred episodes. And last time I wasn't here, 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.120 I was at a different place. You have upgraded since 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:22.040 I was here last Yeah, I moved houses. Yeah, this 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:26.399 is nice, man, it's pretty sweet. I was. I did 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.039 not feel threatened driving down you know, your your hood. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.759 My other house, it was very exposed, like you were. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.640 The front door was on the road. Yeah, I remember that, 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:37.520 And but I moved there. What happened once in my 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.040 old house it flooded and I had to buy a 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.440 place like in a day. The house that I wasn't flooded. No, no, no, 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:46.200 So um my, I had a condo downtown, right and 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.000 I lived on the top floor and it was a 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.400 really cool place. But one of the maintenance men was 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.760 was banging on a pipe and the water main busted 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.280 and it went through the water problem and went through 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.200 every floor its million dollars of damage and all the 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.360 floors it went through of the's living rooms. So I 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.720 lived on what floor, like the six every every floor 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.520 flooded and then to move everybody out of the condos. 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.000 So they were like, insurance is gonna pay for you 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:10.720 a hotel and that had a dog, and I was 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.960 like nope. So I went and bought a house and 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.480 that was the house there. I bought it like a day. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:17.240 It's cool. It is a cool house. It's cool area 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.160 over there. This is a great house. It's a great place, 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.200 and it's a great time to be back. And yes, 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.960 I was wondering how people, if people might be excited 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:25.959 that we were chatting, because I haven't talked about it 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.000 a whole lot. But the people I have, they're like, man, 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:32.480 we listen your episode of episode fifty three, because it 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:33.720 was the first time you and I had spoken in 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.840 a while, because we don't know, we just hadn't talked 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.720 a while. We got to a pretty good fight and 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:39.560 all right, is a disagreement, but it was one that 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.000 you could have with someone because had we not been close, 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:43.920 we had never been able to fight like that. Yeah, 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:45.799 I still don't look at it as a fight. Though 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:50.560 I listened, I learned a lot from that. My point is, 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.880 if we weren't close, we would never have allowed that 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.240 to happen. We would have either said it's not worth 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.760 it or we have walked out. But that was the 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.880 biggest single show ever until I went on to Dancing 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.480 with the Stars behind the scenes for two years. Yeah, 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.919 I got beat out by Dancing with the Stars. Talking 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.839 about I didn't. I didn't even get beat by John Mayr. 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:15.799 Not John Mayor, not Chris Stapleton, you see Chris. Yeah, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.040 John is a big one. So wow, that's pretty Why 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.520 do you think that is though? Is it because word 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.160 of mouth? Word of mouth? Or is it also I 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.519 think possibly it was because there you have a great 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.560 knack of of introducing and talking to people and bringing 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.000 them out of their show. But it's rare that you 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:37.080 come out of yours and ilished me a bit. But 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.920 what I would hear from people, even our artists and 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.080 creative peers, was I've never heard anything like that between 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.760 two people that I know he's going at it, and 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.840 they would tell their friends and that was a word 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.880 of mouth show, all right, But that's how everything gets 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.560 shared now, you know. Whatever on like, how do you 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.480 watch TV shows now? Like? If you watch them on Netflix? 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.760 How do you get onto it? Speaking of which I've 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.440 I've really recently got into that. I've never had internet before. Um. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.400 I was always in a place where I didn't have nice, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:09.520 uh efficient internet, where it was always like they start 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.520 throttling me because I only had like satellite or something. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:16.240 But now my friend I have Fiber. So I've gotten 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.240 into the Netflix. And where do I hear Netflix from? 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.200 Usually either some friends, which is a good thing for 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:22.720 me because if I'm the kind of guy it's gonna 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.560 sit there and watch Netflix. Um, I will spend more 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.120 time watching or trying to find something to watch than 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.520 actually watching something. Man. My point is we trust our 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:38.679 friends because they know our sensibilities. Same thing with that show. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:40.919 People were just telling people about it, like, oh my god, 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.800 there we heard Jacobobby be Friends. We'll call it that, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.480 we'll call it. What are you watching on Netflix? Uh? 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.680 Do you watch bird Box yet? Yeah? I just watched 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.360 that the other night with my girlfriend and she is 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.200 the one who said, everybody's talking about this, we have 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.000 to watch it. And it was kind of disturbing for me. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.520 To be honest with you, um. And then the ending 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:03.719 really disturbed me because we don't say what the ending. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.080 I won't at all. I just think I would say 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.800 this to anybody. Um, it's a cool movie. I guess 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.840 it's kind a very interesting, just the way the whole 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.960 plot is. Whoever wrote that it's a book, I thought 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:16.760 it was some about a true story, right was here? 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.679 That's what because when I thought, like a zombie story. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.800 It's exactly because when I heard that a true story, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.200 I thought, Man, I don't. I'm glad I didn't know 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.719 about that that year, you know whatever, last year it happened. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:35.359 It's not story, but that was like it. Um no, No. 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:41.119 I appreciate movies for cinematography. And I think Sandra Bullock, 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.040 who I haven't seen since like that thing she did 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:47.320 with Keanu Reeves or something Speed I haven't seen. I 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.120 haven't seen her since the Speed days. But she did 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.360 a great job. I mean she looks good too, for 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:54.560 I mean it's been a lot of years since Speed, 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.440 so she looks she looks the same. The I liked it, 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.800 but I watched it earlier lea before the anytime the 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.840 hype gobble something up, it almost can't live up to 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.719 the gobble. There's almost no way that movie could have 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.080 lived up to where it sits now, because anybody watching 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.760 it now it's gonna go it's fine. But I will 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:16.080 tell you though, as much as I said that I 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.080 didn't like the movie and it was blah blah blah 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.800 like I was the night before last, I think I 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.200 watched it so that the next morning, when the sun 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:27.560 came up, part of me felt a little guilty looking 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:31.040 outside it, like, you know, the sunshine. I just didn't 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.040 know what's gonna happen to me. So I feel I 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.039 liked it because I have never seen a Netflix movie 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:36.800 that was good like that. I went, oh, it was good, 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.760 and I watched it early. But really, yeah, what what 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.920 TV shows do you watch? I don't, honestly, man, I 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:46.200 don't really watch any TV nex I've enjoyed. I like Godless. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.479 I've been watching Godless. I like westerns. I love good westerns, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.359 like like movies like Lasting the Mohicans and stuff like 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.400 that Dances with Wolves. I was always a big fan 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.640 of those kind of movies. Um, so I like that 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.040 Godless is really cool. It's about this town where all 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.120 the men died in a mind and so it's just 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.280 the women are left there to maintain this town and 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.720 and rebuild it, and people are coming in trying to 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.920 buy the buy the oil there. So that's cool. I'm 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.040 trying to think what I really hadn't got anything. I 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.640 do love I do love watching on It's only on 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.560 iTunes though, But Mike Judge did Tales from the Tour Bus. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.400 I don't know if you've seen that. Check that out? 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.960 What is that different artists? So my Judge basically was 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.280 right King of the Hill. It's basically that. But so 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.480 he goes in the interviewed, he's interviewing, um, let's say 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.720 Johnny Paychecks, some of Johnny Paychecks band, or Whaland's band, 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.040 and then it'll it'll be like all this time Whaland, 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:43.640 and then all of a sudden it switches to this 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.840 cartoon of whaling and its whole skit, and it's all 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.400 these real stories that happened that he brings out through 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.640 these interviews, and it's just really it makes you go, Wow, 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.800 people these this day and age that think they're badass, 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.920 they're just not. Like, what's it called Tales from the 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.560 tor Bus? What is your girl watch? Because she has 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.040 to rope into things right, m hmm, not really, but 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.040 we have a lot of similarities where we don't tend 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.760 to watch a lot of um watch a lot of television, 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.840 and you don't count Netflix's TV, like just me saying 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.880 that you didn't go right to Netflix. Uh well, when 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.600 I think just I'm like, it's kind of like saying like, hey, 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.600 I want to coke, and they're like like growing up 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.120 and there's like a coke like sprite coke. You know what. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:26.840 I don't know. I kind of just use it as 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:31.560 a thing. Uh No, I think just I rarely well, 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.200 like last night, I sat there, I watched the National 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:37.480 Championship football game. I guess I dates this podcast. Sorry 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.840 that all right? Everything listen, we're talking about bird Box 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.920 won't even be a thing in four months, but um okay, 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:47.240 and I think that's gonna be what keeps network television 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:54.240 live relevant, live events because we're getting into with everything music, 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:58.000 even my radio show, even television, Like we want everything 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:59.920 on demand when we want it right now, and that's 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.240 that's gonna be what everything is. And I actually have 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:03.520 no problem with it. I think a lot of people 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.400 get upset because I've been like that in my whole life. 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.719 You just wanted it right now this second, everybody's talking 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.760 about how people want that nowadays because of social media 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.360 and stuff like. No, I've been like that for forever. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.960 You watched the game I did wasn't pretty? Huh? It was. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.720 It just wasn't a pretty game I thought. I mean, 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.240 it was well played by by Clemson, but it just 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.800 wasn't what I thought it would be. How's how's I 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.400 haven't seen you? You went? Life is awesome? Well, you 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:27.920 did the USA show and then I went off to 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.480 Dancing with the Stars. Before that started, we both kind 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.040 of were like, all right, see on the other side, 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:37.800 TV is different, isn't it. Yeah, it's a whole cool on. Yeah, 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.280 that's the thing. When I did Idol last year, I 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:41.800 went in for like four episodes, right and I was like, 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.240 oh my god, that's been thirteen hours here. Then they 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.199 used nine minutes of of all of the stuff that 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.439 I did, So yeah, I kind of learned the hard 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.520 way there. How was that show for you on USA? 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.320 It was really good. It was, I mean, it was 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.079 super interesting. And by the way, I feel like I 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.240 need to text her back. I feel so bad I'm 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.559 even saying this on your show, But so Shania Twain 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.040 Um and Travis Traitt on this show together. It was 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:04.959 the first time I really well, I never met Shania, 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.480 and I in passing met Travis UM. And it wasn't 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.760 necessarily the greatest experience. It wasn't so much Travis was 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.319 like at the time, like eight nine years ago, playing 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.600 show and like his crew just wasn't cool to our crew. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.319 I forget what it was. But so I didn't know 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:18.760 how to take I don't know how Travis was gonna 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.280 be and I definitely never met Shanna. Travis was amazing, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.440 I mean, one of the kindest, nicest, coolest dudes. Um. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.040 We had some really great talks about classic country music 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.960 in my adoration for it, UM, and then Shania was 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.640 it was was great. Um. It's just interesting, like she's 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.320 in another another world as far as um the way 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:41.080 that I think she sees because of what her career 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.040 has brought her. You know, Like I don't think there's 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.120 very many artists that can relate to selling a hundred 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.560 million albums, So what does she see like talk about 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.640 that for a second, don't understand. Well, I don't mean 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.280 to say that as if she she thinks she's better 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:56.120 than anyone. She's just uh, I don't know. I wondered that. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.720 I wondered what her perspective was. Her perspective on the 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.880 show was definitely a out bringing diversity to our formats. 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.520 What she did, I mean when she came in, she 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.320 wasn't necessarily no one thought like she was the countriest 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.240 girl in the format. She kind of was breaking barriers 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.199 and I think that's how she sees it for all 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.400 for all um artists, guys, girls, anyone that was on 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.280 the show. She brought that aspect. Travis Trip brought the 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.040 aspect of wanting to bring back real traditional country, which 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.400 I love too, but that was his thing. Mine was 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.120 kind of what I am. I mean, I love all 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.080 kinds of music. I love traditional country. Um, there's some 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.320 lots of new stuff coming out that I'm I love. 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.240 I feel like fall in love with these artists and 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.680 then um, and then I love like modern pop, anything 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.280 like some cool any kind of music. I'm into all 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:41.400 kinds of stuff, so which I think anyone like our 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:46.240 generation and below are like Napster shifted that for everybody. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.000 When Napster became a thing and you got all this 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.000 music for free, then you took all the music for free, 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.920 and it just kind of made you, Oh, things aren't 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.360 uh consumed or the delivery system is that regional anymore? 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.800 You get whatever. I'll never forget, I mean, and I 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.760 mean it's like I'm growing up always loved, you know, 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.600 my dad like Grandy Travis and Keith Whitley and Verne 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.400 Gozin and guys like that. And I loved Allen Jackson 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.079 and George Strait and He's but they would always talk 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.280 about as artists who they loved, you know, Alan Jackson 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.960 talked about how he loved uh, Hank Williams and and 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.120 and Merle Haggard and guys like that. But at the time, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:19.600 as a kid, I wasn't going out to the store 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.000 and spending all my money on on Merle Haggard records 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.800 and stuff. And my dad had this old Verne Gozin 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.560 and Keith Whitley Greatest Hit seed. And anyways, when I 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.200 got to college and Napster came out, I remember going cool, 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.040 I can check out Merle Haggard down and all of 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.960 a sudden I was able to check out all the 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.680 Merle Haggard stuff for Whalon Jennings or Hank Thompson whatever 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.840 it got me into that now as a as a songwriter, 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.000 as an artist, and knowing what that did for a 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:45.840 lot of people as far as their income and how 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.160 it changed everyone's world, there's a part of me that goes, yeah, 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.600 I was so mad at Metallica when they were like, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.400 you should not get this for free, right, And I 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.319 was like, suck it, I deserve it for free. Was 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.000 an idiot. And now you understand. I understand because I 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.640 streamed content that I create, Right. But here's the Also, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.200 here's the thing that I'm I'm I'm an advocate of 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.640 I love it, I love streaming, I love all these 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.600 these platforms because all I ever wanted to do, and 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.680 all anyone ever wanted to do that got on a 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:13.959 bar stool or picked up a guitar for the first time, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.559 was have a few more people at the campfire, you 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.240 know what I mean, Like they're sitting there playing their 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.719 song and they just kind of your look. You look 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.040 up after you played some bon Jovies song or something, 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.880 and you just hope that maybe people thought you were 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.840 good and more people came. And the only way for 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.440 that to happen was some people to hear you do it. 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.640 So on any of these platforms like that. Now, to 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.640 be able to get the music out there quicker into 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.880 the massive amount of people is what we all set 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.160 out to do, and without it we would be a 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.440 little bit of a disadvantage, I think. So I love 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:42.240 for me to take it, put it everywhere you possibly can. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.720 Uh you know, for me, the issue becomes with streaming 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.440 because I streamed everything. I don't I don't download anything anymore. 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.880 I think most people are. I shouldn't say most people. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.760 I think people that are on the listening to this, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:59.199 the techie savvy er people are streaming most things. Um. 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.839 The problem is how they're starting to kind of use 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.720 the metrics to go this song has this many million 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.760 streams because I can due that. I can spend three 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:09.920 d bucks and put a song on me farting and 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.720 I can buy a million streams. So I don't trust 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.480 anything when someone goes, oh, new artist, They've already got 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.000 seven million STA on this song called Honkytong Joe, and 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:23.000 I'm like, guys, I can actually, so I don't trust anything. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.160 And now what I like about Apple mut But that's 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.320 the thing about streaming, though. It gives you the opportunity 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.680 to buy into whatever you want to buy into right 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.080 absolutely like it, pass on and go to something else, 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:34.920 and you can go you can listen to everything. Two 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.760 things that does. One for me as a person who 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.120 I really enjoy music and I have and I don't 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.960 consider myself anymore the guy who is trying to break 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:43.880 music all the time. I just play songs that I like. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.480 At this point, I'm a personality. I just play songs 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.560 I like. But I have people constantly going, well, there's 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.240 ten million streams here, and I'm like, you know what, 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.880 I know an artist who has fifty streams who actually 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.840 sells tickets, and you have ten millions and you can't 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:00.800 get seven people to come to a ball are like 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:04.320 to me, the only real piece of data is how 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.000 many people actually come to watch you. Yeah, well that's 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.800 definitely the truth and the problem too. And I again, 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.560 I'm as a consumer. I love streaming and music to 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.560 me just goes. I love it, Let's go the next song, 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.360 like I love it. I love streaming so much because 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.520 I can just I can listen to John Mayer that 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:21.320 I can go over, to Post Malone that I can 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.160 go over, and I can listen to read the Franklin 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.520 and it all costs the same. However, it also makes 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.920 music a bit more disposable because of people like absolutely absolutely, 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.680 but there's there's a lot of disposable music right now though. Anyways, 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.600 I think no matter what it is, no matter how 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.240 people get their music, people recognize stuff that that that 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.480 they relate to. And then there's the stuff that's just 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.680 like here today, go on tomorrow sort of thing. And 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.280 there's always been that. But as an artist too, that's 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.400 what the artists have to understand is that it's a 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.120 lot it's gonna be now because of this streaming. It's 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.040 gonna go, you better go, and it's gonna be a 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.600 lot more fickle. Like I'm really fortunate, and I mean 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.040 this as I told you earlier as we were chatting 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.440 off this, um I'm so. I don't mean this arrogantly 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:02.920 and nothing. But it took me a while to get here. 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.280 It took me a while to be at a point 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.360 in my life where like I wake up some days 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.520 and I I, you know, I'm thankful of saying my 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.720 prayers good Lord for what he's giving me, but I 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:13.920 look around and I think, like this wasn't just given 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.640 to me, Like I've worked hard for it. And on third, 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.800 twelve years into my career. Um, I feel I'm really 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:24.000 proud of that because it's a fickle business man, especially 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.640 as I as as it's I I see it too 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.120 right now too, with a lot of artists, younger artists, 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.120 their path is a lot quicker than mine was because 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.520 of the streaming. When I first got my record deal 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.560 in two thousand five, As weird as that sounds, it 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.840 wasn't that long ago, but there was no iTunes wasn't 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.880 out yet because the iPhone wasn't even out until two 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.680 thousand nine, So that isn't that weird to think about 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.640 that day. But I looked back at my career and 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.200 I think about there were times I was frustrated because 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.120 people weren't hearing my stuff faster, they weren't doing it. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.040 But now I think about that and I think, well, 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:57.800 it gave me an opportunity as well as a blessing 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.680 because it gave me an opportunity as an artist to 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.640 learn from things I shouldn't maybe have done, or learned 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.160 from music I made and who I needed to be 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.560 more as an artist. That by the time I figured 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.399 myself out is right when, right when that was popping 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.120 off and people could stream it. And nowadays, like artists, 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.560 you better have you have your ship together when you 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.080 come out, because you're gonna be judged by that first song. 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.560 And yeah, you can continue to pop stuff out because 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.240 like you said, you can put whatever you want out, 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.800 but it better be quality and it better be something 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.879 that otherwise it's just another song amongst the sea of songs, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.400 and the CEA is just flooding more than you can 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.160 ever hold like. And even on a good song, I find, 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:36.800 and I'm sure you do this, I find that I'll 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:38.560 fall in love with a song. It's a good song, 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.040 but next week there's another badass song that comes out, 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.000 and I'll go a few weeks and go, oh, I 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.760 forgot about that song. As a consumer, I love streaming 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:48.640 so much because it gives me the opportunity to listen 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.119 to all I want, whenever I want. It's just like 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.640 a big Thanksgiving meal that never ends and every days Thanksgiving. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.159 But as someone who has to use and have to 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:56.600 hear people talk to me all the time how good 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.520 something is, I can't listen anyone tell me anymore. Yeah, 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.840 look at most right, but I can't look. It's not 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.480 I'm not mad at them because I would do that too, 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.240 but I can't look at metrics and that that they're 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.840 feeding me going. This has ten million streams and believe it. 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.919 Speaking of metrics, man, uh, this is the This was 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:16.200 the most listened to podcast last time. I just hope 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:17.679