1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland, and this is Fitness Disrupted. So 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: we are living an incredible times. As a guy who's 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: been in the fitness industry for a really long time, 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: as I say frequently, because it's amazing to me how 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: much it's changed in such a short amount of time. 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: Fitness technology is through the roof. You know, years ago, 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: when fitness technology just started to take off, I would 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: be trying out everything. You know, Companies would send me 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: their newest product. I would try it out. And I 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: have an office in a building with a bunch of 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: different you know, it's one of these offices where there's 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: lawyers and accountants and psychologists and a lot of people 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 1: leave their doors open, and you know, people would poke 15 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: their heads in and out talk whatever. And uh. People 16 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: would poke their heads into my office and see just 17 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: this crazy mix of like you know, spandex shorts with 18 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: sensors in them and and powders and gadgets and gizmos 19 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: and all this crazy fitness related stuff, whether it was 20 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, nutrition or fit tech, whatever it might be. 21 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: And the common refrain from people was, what the heck 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: do you do for a living, and that has only 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: gotten crazier. I'm almost trying out at least one new 24 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: product every single day, and it's just it's so exciting 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: from someone who loves fitness that much. But here's the thing. 26 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: It's not gonna change your life. It doesn't change the 27 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: most important things, the motivation, the changing of behaviors. I 28 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: don't care how good your why chees, or that your 29 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: shirt has sensors in it to show you muscle activation, 30 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: or that you can track your sleep, or that you 31 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: can hack your metabolism, or that you can you know, 32 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: track just about everything, or have content streamed into your home. 33 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: If the Y isn't there, none of this matters. And 34 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: that's the topic for today. I love this topic and 35 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: I love the guests them I'm gonna bring on shortly. 36 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: It's a guy I've known for a long time, and 37 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: he is the perfect person to talk about this with 38 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: because we are very similar in that we both started 39 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: working in the gym's years ago in New York City, 40 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: and then we both moved on to working with different 41 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: companies and consulting and just trying out all of the 42 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: stuff I'm talking about. And this guy works for one 43 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: of the top fitness technology companies. I'm gonna leave it 44 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: at that. But we've seen it all and we've tried 45 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: it all, and I think his outlook is going to 46 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: surprise you. From someone who again works in the field 47 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: of fit tech, you know, it's it's incredible for him 48 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: and I to sit down and talk because we were 49 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: in the gyms when it was pen and paper, right 50 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: when when there was no email. There was no email. 51 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: Cell phones were just starting to take off back right when, 52 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, way back when, and I go way further 53 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: back than that as well. But this is a really 54 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: important subject because you're reading about all of these products 55 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: that are gonna hack your life right and do all 56 00:03:53,560 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: of those things. It doesn't matter. We are living in 57 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: a time when every single excuse that I heard for years, 58 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: they are gone. I hate to tell you that, because 59 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: you know people love to hold on too. I don't 60 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: have time, I don't have money, I don't have access. 61 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: You have all of the above. Now you have every 62 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: single reason obstacle that have been sighted over the years gone. COVID. 63 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: If you reframe, it has taught us that I didn't 64 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: you didn't have time to work out when COVID first hit. 65 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: I said, now you got time, and then we heard 66 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: about the COVID fifteen. I get it, and and this 67 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: is tough love, but the answer is awesome. The solution 68 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: should be so exciting to you that you don't have 69 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: to buy that expensive tracker. You can if you want, 70 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: and it can be super motivating, but no product is 71 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: going to change your life in and of itself. You 72 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: have to change the behavior first. And as Chris Blithe, 73 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: my guest in just a moment, will be talking about, 74 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: it's about changing your behavior, making small changes, making one 75 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: change at a time. Because when you do that, when 76 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: you control what you can, when you become empowered, when 77 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: you build yourself efficacy, then it's sustainable, it's doable, it's exciting, 78 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: and it's for a lifetime. There are no big changes. 79 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: There are small changes that add up over time that 80 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: lead to you believing in yourself. Perfect time to take 81 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: the quick break and bring on our guest, My guest, 82 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: Chris blythe expert in fitness technology, has seen every aspect 83 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: of the business fitness business and knows what it takes. 84 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: And and this is why I love the message he's 85 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: gonna bring to you. Enough quick break. When we come back, 86 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you exactly what you need to know 87 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: to make those changes once and for all. We'll be 88 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: right back, and we are back. I am live in 89 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: the studio with a friend of mine, someone in the 90 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: business and like the perfect person for this show. We 91 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: started talking in the office and I said, stop talking. 92 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: We need to record this. So Chris Blythe is someone who, 93 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: like me, started in New York City years ago working 94 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: at the gyms. We'll talk about that. I'll let him 95 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: give you his quick bio as well. But he's in 96 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: the fitness tech space and we literally meet every couple 97 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: of months and talk shop. And we talked about fitness tech. 98 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: That's so, he's a fitness tech entrepreneur. He has done 99 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: it all in the industry as well, is now working 100 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: for a big fitness tech company. And I'll leave it 101 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: at that, but we're going to talk about like how yeah, 102 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: there's amazing fitness tech, but it's not solving the problem, 103 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: that's right. Thank well, Thank you Tom for for having 104 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: me and for the intro. Nice to be here, Nice 105 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: to see you. It's been a while. So yeah, as 106 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned, I've been like you in the fitness space. 107 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: For quite some time. I think it's seventeen years now, 108 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: which is frightening but true. UH starting out as a 109 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: personal trainer in New York City and then running a 110 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: bunch of high end fitness clubs in the city. UH 111 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: then co founded a fitness technology a company called lift Session, 112 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: which is live online personal training and group training into 113 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: that in two thousand thirteen, and then have been in 114 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: that sort of at home fitness tech space since then, 115 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: which has been exciting and obviously as of late, has 116 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: blown up and accelerated faster than anything any anybody could 117 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: have anticipated, to say the least. But yeah, as as 118 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, one of the things that I've 119 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: been sort of or we've been, I think both of 120 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: us have recognized is, you know, we're in two thousand 121 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: twenty and and obviously we have COVID going on right now, 122 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: which kind of makes everything a little weird. But in 123 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: two thous there's frankly never been more fitness and nutrition 124 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: and supplement options out there. There's never been more than 125 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: we have now. It's it's unbelievable, from you know, fitness 126 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: apps to nutrition apps to meditation apps, two diets, you know, 127 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: from Keto to UH you know, low carb to you 128 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: know you you you name it, um to countless supplements. 129 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: So it's never been more. In all these at home 130 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: fitness products and services, it's all fantastic, and it's all 131 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: moved in the right direction from a I think improvement 132 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: perspective and getting better and getting more engaging and all 133 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: that stuff. But there is a bu um. But the 134 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: butt is, with all of this that's out there, we 135 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: still have a huge, huge percentage of our population that's unhealthy. 136 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: So all these amazing products, all these amazing services, all 137 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: these amazing you know, theoretical diets, at the end of 138 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: the day, it's not having an impact on a huge, huge, 139 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: huge percentage of our population. And that's a problem. That's 140 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: a big problem. So you know, for you and I, 141 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: we love our at home gear, but you know, we're 142 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: in the minority. We've been in fitness for a long time, 143 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: we've worked at our our whole lives probably and and 144 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: not everyone else. Everyone has is necessarily grew up like that, 145 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: um or is engaged like that. There's so many people 146 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: that have grown up never never you know, never exercising, 147 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: never necessarily having uh sort of the balanced type of 148 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: diet that that you and I have figured out how 149 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: to achieve. So taking a step back, what I've been 150 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: looking at and thinking about is really, how do people 151 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: get healthier? Like? What? What? Like? How how can we 152 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: have an impact on the majority of people who don't 153 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: necessarily lead healthy lives, or or want to lead healthy lives, 154 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: or don't even know they want You know that they 155 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: don't even know where to begin. Frankly, and to me, 156 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: what I've seen and I'm sure you've seen the same. 157 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: The people that really make changes in their health, uh, 158 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: typically don't just jump into some extreme diet. They don't 159 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: typically just all of a sudden start training for a 160 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: marathon and and now they're, you know, fit and live 161 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: a healthy life for the rest of their lives. Most 162 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: people need to start with something small, and really it's 163 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: about habit change. It's really it's really changing some small 164 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: habits in your life, and if you can stick to 165 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: that over time, you will start improving your health. And 166 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: that can mean a million different things that can be 167 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: eliminating a bad habit. And what we're chatting about earlier, 168 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: a very simple example is let's say you every day 169 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: with your lunch, you you have a coca cola. Not 170 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: a big deal, not the worst thing in the world, 171 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: is not going to kill you. But if you decided, 172 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: you know what, I want to make one little change, 173 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: and you decide instead of having a Coca cola, and 174 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with Coca cola, don't want to scare off 175 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: any sponsors, um, but if you if you decided, you 176 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: know what, instead of having that Coca cola, I'm gonna 177 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: have you know whatever, club soda, lime or something different. 178 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: That's a small change, right that I think a lot 179 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: of people probably could could make that change. And while small, 180 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: if you think about that, every day, every week, every month, 181 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: every year, over time, all of the sugar that's not 182 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: going in your body, all those calories that's not going 183 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: in your body, all the other sort of you know, 184 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: maybe other stuff that's in that beverage that's not going 185 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: into your body, that will change your life. Will it 186 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: be dramatic no? Will it be something yes? And is 187 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: it something that you can stick to, which is probably 188 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: the most important thing for a lot of people. I 189 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: would I would argue probably yes, some people maybe not. 190 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: Maybe they that coca cola is just too and maybe 191 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: that's not the change for them, you know, maybe there's 192 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: something else that they they can do. Maybe it um 193 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: you know. Again, it's about developing healthy habits and or 194 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: removing unhealthy habits. And if you can do those little 195 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: changes at a time, they will add up to significant results. 196 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: And as we were talking earlier, so many people that 197 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: recognize they they need to get healthy, whether their doctor says, hey, 198 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: you need to lose weight, or or they just don't 199 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: feel good or they don't feel like they look good 200 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. Oftentimes the immediate sort of 201 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: reaction is, oh, I need to join a gym. Oh 202 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: I need to go on that diet or this diet 203 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: that I read about in whatever magazine. And Tom you've 204 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: seen this as well. And I don't have the statistics 205 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: on this, but most people that jump into that extreme change, 206 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 1: whether it's they've never exercised before and all of a 207 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: sudden they're going to whatever, Jim six days a week 208 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: for two hours a day, they're gonna stop. They're not 209 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: going to continue doing that for the most part, like 210 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: it's too extreme. And and same with with an extreme diet, 211 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, they go from eating kind of whatever they 212 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: want to say, Oh, you know what, I'm I'm only 213 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: eating X or I'm eliminating X, Y and Z, and 214 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: that's how I'm going to live there my life. Maybe 215 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: it works for a week, maybe it works for two weeks, 216 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: it works for a month, but ultimately they'll probably fail 217 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: and go back to where they started. And because it's 218 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: often just because it's too much. It's too much at once, 219 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: it's too extreme. And really, again, I think it's it's 220 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: about developing small, healthy habits that you can stick to 221 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: over time. I love it, you know, And Chris, you 222 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: know again, Chris and I have had this conversation for years, 223 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: and what I really want you to understand is Chris 224 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: and I are like deep into the fitness tech. Chris, 225 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look over here, I'm not going 226 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: to name it. I mean I have been sent more 227 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: stuff in the past year than I have in my 228 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: lifetime when it comes to fitness text. So it's over there. 229 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: It is a it is a metabolic it's something I 230 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: put on my arm and it's going to measure things. 231 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to give it away. If you go 232 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: to my Instagram, it'll be up there. But my point 233 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: is that Chris and I we both started as trainers, 234 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: and you know at the bottom in New York City. 235 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: And this is what I love about Chris is he 236 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: has all the knowledge and experience right that we both share. 237 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: And then we got into the fitness space and he 238 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: created an amazing product. So as he started by saying, 239 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: there's never been a better time, we have access. So Chris, right, 240 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: we what we have to say is this is the 241 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: tough love. Is that COVID taught us something incredible. When 242 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: it comes to fitness. It's not about time, right, It's 243 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: not about time. It's not even how can there be 244 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: a COVID Fifteen people putting you have all the time 245 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: in the world, and they said this when COVID hit, 246 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: now you have time. So it's not about time and 247 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: that's okay. And it's not about money because there's more 248 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: free content Chris than ever before. Right, fitness trainers are 249 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: giving it away on Instagram whatever. So what Chris and 250 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: I are telling you and why I love this conversation 251 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: is it's about finding your why and it's about, as 252 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: Chris said, making those small changes excessive moderation. As we're 253 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: in my studio here, I'm looking at my books on 254 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: the wall. I've got the covers I put that on 255 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: Instagram recently. The major blowback I get, Chris from people 256 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: comments on my marathon, books, books about the gym, working out, 257 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is is this isn't enough. M hm, this 258 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: isn't enough. And as Chris is saying, yes it is. 259 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: And when I bring on people like David Garcia who 260 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: lost hundred sixty pounds kept it off for ten years, Chris, 261 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: he said, exactly what you said. He said, I started 262 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: by bringing my lunch to work. Small changes. No, that's 263 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: that's awesome, and that's such a great example. I don't know, 264 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: you know the full details of David's story, but but 265 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: that example that you just provided, you know, he started 266 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: with one little change that sounds insignificant, bringing your lunch 267 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: to work, versus I don't know exactly what else he 268 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: was doing. Maybe he was going out for a pizza 269 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: every day or McDonald's or whatever. Because I'll fell in 270 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: the blanks, you know what he said, Chris, he said 271 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: he took a different he drove, he said, he counted. 272 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get the number exactly right, but it 273 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: was something like twelve different fast food places that he 274 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: would pass by on the way to work, and he 275 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: inevitably would stop at one of them or more. He 276 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: changed the way he drove to work. That's small change, 277 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 1: that's that's brilliant, And that's such an interesting example I 278 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: think that so many of us fall into. And that's funny. 279 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: Would work like you get a new job, you start commuting, 280 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: you settle on that those couple of you know, restaurants 281 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: that you pass by, what you know, whatever they may be. 282 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a dunkin Donuts that you that first day 283 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: of work, before you go to work, you go and 284 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: you're grabbing your donut and your coffee. All of a sudden, 285 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: that's you're doing that every day, right, You're doing that 286 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: five days a week or whatever it may be. And um, 287 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: so you get into that habit. And that's a habit 288 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: that so many bowl we'll fall into without thinking about it, 289 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: without recognizing it, or what have you. And then all 290 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's day after day after day, week 291 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: after week after week, month after month after month, year 292 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: over year over year of that habit. And he made 293 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: that change from not necessarily a positive habit as far 294 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: as what he was selecting for lunch, and then he 295 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: took kind of control of it and said, you know, 296 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: what instead of like doing that thing every day, going 297 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: to those three fast food chains every every other day. Um, 298 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to control what I bring. And and again 299 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: if you kind of step back, that seems like such 300 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: a small change. But that's the point. And there are 301 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: two words I want to pull out there at Chris, 302 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: control and small. And you've probably said small, like and 303 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: you know I constantly find myself saying it too, and 304 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: then thinking like and saying there are no small steps. 305 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: Those are the steps we want, right, So when you 306 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: were a trainer, when I was a trainer, if someone 307 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: came to us and say I lost seven pounds, you 308 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: know in three days, we go no, Right, that's water 309 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: and things. We don't want you to have those huge changes, 310 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: as crazy as that may sound, because we know they're unsustainable, 311 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: they're generally unhealthy, and they're unrealistic. So when we talk 312 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: about small changes, we're also talking about what Chris is 313 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: getting to is self efficacy. Right, I'm still studying sports psychology. 314 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: When you are successful at that, will say small because 315 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: we don't have a better word yet. We gotta come 316 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: up with one, Chris, like nine thousand of my books 317 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: in the studio, But it's true. It's it's it gives 318 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: you confidence. It gives you situational confidence. Right, So when 319 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: you make that habit change. And David Garcia then he 320 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: started walking, you know, he would walk Chris before he 321 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: went home, walk around the block a couple of times. 322 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: They build on themselves, is what Chris and I are 323 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: trying to tell you. And when you start feeling good 324 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: about yourself, then it's all connected. And that's why I 325 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: talk about Chris like, oh, these articles like is it cardio, 326 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: is it diet? Is it this? Or is it that? 327 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: Is its strength? It's all of the above. And when 328 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: you make that small change and I've said this in 329 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: your diet or your exercise, it leads to better changes 330 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: in your diet or your exercise. Right. So it's that 331 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: snowball effect we're trying to get across to people that 332 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: comes from small changes, absolutely, and it's it's and and 333 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: the case of David, it was making that one step 334 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: to his diet and then you know that probably you know, 335 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: maybe he started to feel control of his life and 336 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: then maybe at some point he was like, you know what, 337 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: I can do one other thing, and that apparently was 338 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: walking a little bit. And it's again, if you step back, 339 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: you sound like very very very you know, insignificant changes. 340 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: But again, if you do it every day, or you know, 341 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: or three you know or or you know one of 342 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: One of the sort of formulas I like to think about, 343 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: whether it's with nutrition or exercise or or even um moderation, 344 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: is you have seven days in a week. You want 345 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: to win the week. So you want to have more 346 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: good days than you have bad days. Right, so you 347 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: want to have at least four and I'm using air 348 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: quotes good days, whether that's exercising or not having that 349 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: coca cola we were talking about earlier or whatever it 350 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: may be, but kind of breaking it up into your 351 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: week where it's all right, I'm gonna win the week. 352 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna win four out of those seven days. Because 353 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: if you if if you only do three days, uh, 354 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: then you're losing. Then you're losing the week. So anyway, 355 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: that's that's some sort of a formula I made up 356 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: that that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but but it's one 357 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: way to look at things. Yeah, And kind of a 358 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: way I talk about Chris, is if you're eating five 359 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: to six meals a day, one or two not perfect 360 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: and that's right if you actually do that. So it 361 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: does come down to math. I'm oftentimes talking about the math, 362 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: and it frustrates people, but it simplifies it. Right. So 363 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: when Chris talked about the soda, let's say that's two 364 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: in our fifty two three hundred calories. You cut that 365 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: and most people, by the way, let's be honest, aren't 366 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: having one, they're having four. So let's not even say 367 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: you're not even gonna cut it out right away. You're 368 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: gonna cut it down to two. Right. Oh, but that's 369 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: not what these diets tell you. Listen, let me let 370 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: me say this, and Chris would agree. I'm sure all 371 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: diets work. All diets work short term. All diets our 372 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: calorie reduction, and many of them flush your body of 373 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: water as well. That's what you see. So they all 374 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: work short term, you follow it, you are successful in it. 375 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: It makes the person who wrote the diet book money, 376 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: and then you feel bad about yourself. And that's what 377 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: Chris is getting to, and what I'm getting to is 378 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: that that's why these books drive us nuts. That's why 379 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: these celebrity no diet and listen, the only book I 380 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: wrote that has anything to do with food was my 381 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: swim bike run eat for triathlon. And it was really 382 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: hard to write, Chris, because it's like, here's your carbs, 383 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: here's your fat, here's your protein. Now figure out what 384 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: works for you. Right, So we can't say enough, And 385 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: I just want to re emphasize that Chris and I 386 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: have access to all of the top fitness equipment and 387 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: all of that stuff and you don't need that and 388 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: you can find it and that's a reward and we 389 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: talk about that. But what you need is to feel 390 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: good about yourself to make the small changes that Chris 391 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: talked about and change are you talking about? Not changes? One? 392 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: Start with one and it's one you don't you know, 393 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: brushing your whatever it is, and it leads to so 394 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: many things. But that doesn't sell books. Let me just 395 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: sell because I've said this before. I love the term 396 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: excess of moderation. I've used it. It's in all my 397 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: books after I came up with it, and I wanted 398 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: it to be the title of my book, and the 399 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: publisher and like the twenties something, so that is the 400 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: dumbest title we've ever heard. But know that unless I 401 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: publish it myself, you know, or find the right the 402 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: chances of that coming out are slim to none because 403 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: that's not what sells. That's not what sells. And so 404 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: if I said lose you know, thirty pounds in two weeks, 405 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: I get that book published, I will never publish that book. 406 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: So our point is that the vast majority of the 407 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: products and diets and programs out there are setting you 408 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: up for for failure. And it's not that they failed. 409 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: That's what I want to just leave with Chris. And 410 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: and here your comments is, you don't fail to diet. 411 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: You you were successful. You did what they asked. The 412 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: diet was going to fail as soon as you stopped. Yep. 413 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: Now totally totally agree. And actually it's it's funny that 414 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: you you brought up the brushing the teeth and and 415 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: that one thing like you and I want people to 416 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: lead healthier lives, Like that's what we do for our careers, 417 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: is is trying to help people lead healthier lives. And 418 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: health is such a broad subject like it's it often 419 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: comes down the conversations, and the books often comes down 420 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: to you know, losing weight and you know exercise and 421 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: all that. But to your point, brushing your teeth is 422 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: improving your health, like if if you don't, if let's 423 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: say that you never brush your teeth um or you 424 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: brush your teeth once a day, and said that twice 425 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: a day, Like just starting your day with brushing your 426 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: teeth is a healthy habit, Like that's a positive change 427 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: to your health. Making your bed in the morning mentally 428 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: can be a very healthy habit to kind of start 429 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: your day off on the right foot. But again, you 430 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: know that that's a little digression into But I don't 431 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: think it is, Chris, I don't think it is at all. 432 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: You know, because these it's control. It's what you talked 433 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 1: about with control. And I start off microworkout plan actually 434 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: saying in the first page, like you have to believe 435 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: you have control to make change, and far too off 436 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: in these articles tell you can't write it's your genetics, 437 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: don't bother. If you stop exercising, it's as if you 438 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: never started, which is complete garbage, by the way, and 439 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: all of that stuff that that discourages people from that 440 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: ever starting. And you have to believe you have control. 441 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: And I said, I mean crazy. I said that in 442 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: those first couple of pages, Chris, like if you don't, 443 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: you can stop reading right now, but people have to 444 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: believe that, and it's that control. I know that when 445 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: I make my bed, I don't like making my bed, 446 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: but as Chris said, when I do it, and there's 447 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: that Navy guy you read all these greater games. Yeah, 448 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: this is why I talk about eating breakfast. When we 449 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: start our day doing something like that, it sets the 450 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: whole day up right for success. And there are no 451 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: small steps. So I had to stop you because making 452 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: the bed leads to everything else as well. Yeah, and 453 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: and as we're saying before, if you're sort of I 454 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: don't know where to begin, or you feel sort of helpless, 455 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: it's finding that one thing to start with. And again, 456 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: maybe it's brushing your teeth, maybe it's making your bed. 457 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's walking your dog for a little bit longer 458 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: than normal. Maybe it's taking the steps one thing to 459 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: just start the change. And the very important point I 460 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: think is not just doing that one thing, but that 461 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: one thing that you know you can stick to, that 462 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: you can stick to day after day, week after week, 463 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: month after month, that it will add up as small 464 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: as whatever it is, it will add up to something 465 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: positive and it may lead to you know, the second 466 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: thing or the third thing. But you don't need to 467 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: worry about that. Start with one thing, one small thing 468 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: that you can achieve, and go from there. Yeah, Chris 469 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: and I were talking to and he kind of alluded 470 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: to it. So when I started in this industry many 471 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: years ago, contributing to the magazines decades ago, you know, 472 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: they'd say, give us you know exactly what Chris is saying, 473 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: give us a couple of tips to get in shape. 474 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: And what was the ones we used to give right 475 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: It was parked farther away from you know, the supermarket, 476 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: your office, walk, take the stairs instead of all of 477 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: those things. And years ago all of those editors and 478 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: writers said, stop giving us those things. We want things 479 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: we've never heard before. So that's what you've been getting 480 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: for decades. And I'm part of the problem. But I wrote, like, 481 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, I'm still push ups and planks and you 482 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: know stuff that I know you could do. And the 483 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: solution is taking the stairs and and parking farther away 484 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: and adding movement into your life. You can still go 485 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: to gym, you can still do all that stuff, and 486 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: fitness tech is amazing. But as Chris started this whole 487 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: conversation by saying, we've never had access to more content, 488 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: free content. Fitness tech has never the term hack. I 489 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: wanted just whoa you know, so you got to find 490 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: your small changes that lead to that that add up. Right, 491 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: They don't ever even lead to bake changes Chris, Right, 492 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean not really. I mean yes, you know, then 493 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: someone will say I can think I can do a marathon. 494 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: But it's because you have that self efficacy, because you say, 495 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: you know what, I've controlled these things, and then you 496 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: shoot for the bigger goals. You know. Let me say this, 497 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: one of the coolest things about writing the books, Chris is, 498 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, my twelve week Try Athlete book's been out 499 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: for a long time. I mean, it's so dated at 500 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: this point, but I've following it a go on Instagram. 501 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: Who just qualified for the Hawaiian Man and he did 502 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: at nine eighteen, which is so insanely fast, so insanely fast, 503 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: And he started with my book. Now, my book is 504 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: like twelve weeks. You know, it's basic, it's but but 505 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: it's where you need to start. He now has an 506 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: amazing coach, a professional coach. But my point is he starts. 507 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: You have to walk before you run, so he didn't. 508 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: And part of it is not getting hurt and discouraged 509 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So you start with books like 510 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: mine and and then you can go for the bigger things, 511 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: but you need to lay that foundation first. And yeah, 512 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: the whole walk or crawl before you can walk, before 513 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: you can run is is also kind of along the 514 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: same lines, like you gotta start somewhere, you gotta start 515 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: moving and uh in the case of the crawl walk run, 516 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: And it really it really does come down to the 517 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: basics when you really step away from again, look and 518 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: everything you can. You can look at all the crazy 519 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: workouts that are out there on Instagram and and all 520 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: the you know, crazy diets that are out there, but 521 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: it really really come you know, again, oftentimes, what what 522 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: people are looking for when when we talk about health 523 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: is they want to lose weight. And really what it 524 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: comes down to is caloric deficit. And it's it's just 525 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: it's like the very basics of Okay, what's going in 526 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: your mouth and you know, and and what is your 527 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: body doing throughout the day, Like it's those that balance 528 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: and it's literally the basic it's really it's literally, Matt, 529 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: there's some you know, there's some minor sort of fluctuations 530 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: and genetics and all this stuff, for sure, But at 531 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's pretty much calories in, 532 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: calories out. You heard it here like this is this 533 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: is not what people want to hear. Yes, a calorie 534 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: is a cowing. And what I say, Chris, is when 535 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: it comes to pure weight loss, a calories a calory. 536 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: When it comes to being healthy, of course, not so 537 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: in other words like I can put you on a 538 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: Twizzler and Skittles diet, you're gonna lose weight. And that's 539 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: why all diets work short term. But about being healthy. 540 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: It's about eating healthy foods, right, And that's why on 541 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: topic for another day, I talk about, don't focus on 542 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: what you can't eat, focus on what you can write. 543 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: True health comes from not you know, Chris and I 544 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: live in an area and many of you probably do 545 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: as well. There's a lot of skinny on healthy people, 546 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: all right. So it's not about weight at the end 547 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: of the day, it's about being healthy. And Chris and 548 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: I could go into and we started talking about before 549 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: we started the show, just the mental side to all this. 550 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we should do you know, four hours Chris 551 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: has to go, but you know, it's it's small changes 552 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: get your focus off the weight loss, Chris. The weight 553 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: loss comes, you know. That's what I always tell people. 554 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 1: When you change, that happen when you actually make your 555 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: bed and brush your teeth and eat a healthy breakfast 556 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: and take the focus off the weight loss. Suddenly, six 557 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: months down the road, you go, what happened? Like I 558 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't even paying attention, or maybe you were, but like 559 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: it happens. It happens when you take the focus off 560 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: of the weight loss and focus on the healthy small changes. 561 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: And it comes down to math. All right, I gotta 562 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: let Chris go. But let's so let's give people the 563 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: actionable take away. And you've already given it, right, change 564 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: one habit and how long like I like to say 565 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: a week, and it could be longer. Right, So take 566 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: one thing, as Chris said, and give it a week, 567 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: maybe two, and that's it. Don't change anything else except 568 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: that one thing, and then pick a second thing and 569 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: start working from there, right, Chris, any other advice about it? No? 570 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: And and I would say what you pick, think about 571 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: what you believe that you could pretty easily stick to 572 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: every day, you know, day after day, week after week. 573 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: And again it can be as simple as it can 574 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: be as simple as brushing your teeth, for sure. Um, 575 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: but find one thing that you know that you could 576 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: stick to, and it could be you know, and it 577 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,239 Speaker 1: can also be not just doing something, it could be 578 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 1: not doing something. And again we talked about the soda thing, like, 579 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: if there's one thing that you do that you know 580 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: is not necessarily healthy that you could you feel like 581 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: you could stop doing that pretty easily. Do it? Try that? 582 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: Start with that. Yeah, and let me say one more time, like, 583 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: I love my red wine. I'm not cutting out my 584 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: red wine, but there's that trade off or you cut back, right. So, 585 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 1: in other words, if something's unhealthy habit, sure, over time 586 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: you probably want to get rid of that to some degree, 587 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: but when we're twenty, you don't. Ever, there's no perfect right. 588 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: So if you're doing as I said, four SODA's a day, 589 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: as most people who are really into SODA's do, cut 590 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: it down to two to start. Because here's the thing, 591 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: and we'll leave you with this. Chris and I both 592 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: know that over time, what you have to realize is 593 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: suddenly you crave the healthy stuff, Suddenly you crave exercise. 594 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: So there is that tipping point that is never talked 595 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: about where right now you say, I love my soda. 596 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: I can't live without it, and yes you can, or 597 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: you can live with less and you will enjoy it 598 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: that much more, right Chris, when you have it, when 599 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: it's a true you know, treat dessert, dessert was you know, 600 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: meant to be dessert, not all day long. Right. So 601 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: there is a point, is what Chris and I are 602 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: trying to tell you where it's not a struggle. It's 603 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: not a struggle. I don't struggle, and I still have 604 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 1: soda every now and again, go to fast food every 605 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: now and again. I don't enjoy it as much my body. 606 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: As you get healthier, you crave the good stuff and 607 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: you still have the other stuff. But that's our point 608 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: is there's such a huge light at the end of 609 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: the tunnel. But I just love Chris's message because it 610 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: aligns exactly with my excessive moderation. Start with one thing, 611 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: and here's one final thing, Chris, find other people to 612 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: do it with two like great, you know, get get 613 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: there's power numbers. Absolutely, there's some great habit books out 614 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: there and and strategies for developing habits. Atomic Habits is 615 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: an excellent book. By the way, um and one of 616 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: the sort of strategies for developing a healthy habit is 617 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: is partnering up with someone, whether it's your spouse or 618 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: a friend or or and and again it's you know, 619 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: it's maybe you're going for a walk with your friend. 620 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: You're you're meeting your friend or your neighbor, um every 621 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: morning for a ten minute walk. Maybe it's as simple 622 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: as that. But to Tom's point, having a partnering crime 623 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: has been proven to help develop um or or eliminate 624 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: um habits. Yeah, I love it, all right, you have 625 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: to go, don't you. Chris is busy, could not love 626 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: this conversation more, could not be more excited. And and 627 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: thank you Christopher coming in at the COVID in the studio. 628 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: We are six ft apart, uh more than that. But no, 629 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how valuable. And I just love that. 630 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: You know, we'll have celebrities on and we have we'll 631 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: have guys like David Garcia and then people like Chris 632 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: Blythe who has been in all aspects of the industry. 633 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: What he's telling you is, I'm not going to give 634 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: the products that he and I both Yes, those are helpful, 635 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: but they are not the solution. The solution is to 636 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: change those habits, feel good about yourself and learn what 637 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: you can control. Chris and every show, and I will 638 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: this one as well after you're gone by saying there's 639 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: three things we control. How much you move, what you 640 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: put in your mouth, in your aitude, that's everything. And 641 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: you're taken that's been taken away from you. So enough, Chris, 642 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: thanks so much, thanks for having all right. We will 643 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: be right back after one final break. I truly love 644 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: this medium. I truly love the ability to bring you 645 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: all of the different component parts to help you have 646 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: your best life. That includes the fitness experts, Denise Austin, Dr. 647 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: Brad shown Field, Dr Daniel Lieberman, celebrities to get you motivated, 648 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: Bass Routing, just that mix of people and then Chris 649 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: blythe you know, the message from Chris, as I said 650 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: at the start of the show should surprise you. We 651 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: are in the business. We're in the business of selling 652 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: you stuff when it comes to that aspect, like listen, 653 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: I write books, I do many different things. But you know, 654 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: the equipment part of it, but it's not the solution. 655 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: It's not Oh, if I only had that bike, if 656 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: I only had that treadmill, No, it goes back to 657 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: becoming an expensive code hanger. It is all part of 658 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: the equation. And that's why I frequently talked about these 659 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: horrific articles that say here's the one way. No, it's 660 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: the small changes over time that teach you you have control, 661 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: and that control builds, and that self efficacy builds, and 662 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: that confidence in yourself and your ability to control what 663 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: you can in a world that's so chaotic is so empowering. 664 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: And that, as Chris said, and I wish we talked 665 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: for five hours because there's so much more to talk about, 666 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: but he's that it's all connected, and it's so interesting 667 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: to talk to someone like Chris because there's just very 668 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: few people in the industry I have to say like 669 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: Chris and I who survived make a living and that 670 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: preach the truth, the the small changes, the excessive moderation, 671 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: the stuff that it's really hard to get out there. 672 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: And I'm so thankful to my Heart Radio to give 673 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: me this medium to do it, and I do it 674 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: my books and lectures and all those things as well. 675 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: But there are no small changes. Make your bed, brush 676 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: your teeth, It all builds, makes you feel good about yourself. 677 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: You go for that walk, You make better food choices, 678 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: you have better relationships, you make more money. It's all 679 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 1: connected and we have to find a new word instead 680 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: of small. They're just changes. But we have to use 681 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: the m small because it clarifies. But small does not 682 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: mean insignificant. The only way to be successful long term 683 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: or to make those changes that are smaller over time 684 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: that build. Thank you to Chris blythe what a great conversation. Again. 685 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: Wish I could talk to him for hours and I 686 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: will have him back because there's a couple other topics 687 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: that I know, will you know be super helpful to 688 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: you when it comes to these topics about what you 689 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: need and to make sense of this confusing world. But 690 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't want you to get down on yourself ever 691 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: for not getting it right away, not understanding that what 692 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: you've been you know, told was the way, is not 693 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: the way. It's not about quick fixes. It's not about 694 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: celebrity who have no training or experience in diet, nutrition, exercise, 695 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: any of it. It's about listening to people who have 696 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 1: studied it, who have done it, like Crisp Life and myself, 697 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: because we want you to have a better life. That 698 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: is one of the coolest parts of the conversation I 699 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: had with crisp right you know after we stopped recording, 700 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: was that we want to see change. We're tired of 701 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: people spending the money and not getting results. So make 702 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: that change and see how it affects everything going forward. 703 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 1: Please subscribe to the show if you have not already, 704 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: and rate it and comment on it if you can. 705 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: I love it, love to hear and read those comments, 706 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: especially the ones you know that talk about wow it 707 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: is it's the simple common sense stuff. Yeah, what if 708 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: you actually followed it? What have you actually made those 709 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: small changes? Could be amazed, could be amazed. Tom h 710 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: Fit is my Instagram and Twitter, Tom h Fit. You 711 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: can reach out to me through those two ways as 712 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: well as going to Fitness disrupted dot com. Thank you 713 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 1: so much, Thank you for listening. Thank you to Chris 714 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: Blafe for coming into the studio. Fund to have someone 715 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: in here. I hope to get many more guests when 716 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: covid is over into the studio itself. But you know 717 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: it's working the way it's working now as well. All right, 718 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: let me know what that small changes reach out there's 719 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: power in putting it out there as well. And this 720 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: whole show, this show itself, and and Fitness Disrupted in 721 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: and of itself. It's all about control. We control how 722 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: much we move, what we put into our mouths, in 723 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: our attitudes. Take control of those things, and take control slowly, 724 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: and you will be amazed at the results. I am 725 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: Tom Holland. This is Fitness Disrupted. Believe in yourself. Fitness 726 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: Disrupted is a production of I heart Radio. For more 727 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the i heart Radio app, 728 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.