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Speaker 1: This the one Bill's Live presented by Calida, helped.

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Speaker 2: Makes the hand off, looks out to the right, flat

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Speaker 3: Leonard Floyd got the hand on the football.

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Speaker 4: It's an I NT for Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: There's a quarterback drawn to Allen, weaving his way through

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Speaker 3: Goal line for the touchdown.

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Speaker 5: A nine yard quarterback draw for the.

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Speaker 2: TV as time throws over the middle to the goal line.

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Speaker 2: Did he catch the football? He did, It's a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He was blocked by defenders, but dig stalk the football

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Speaker 3: and Philadelphia's right back in the ballgame. Where's the snap

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen, the feast has been released.

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Speaker 5: He heaves it down to the end zone and it's

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Speaker 5: An off scrip play goes for a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: The gave Davis on a slant further touchdown gave Davis

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Speaker 5: Bills are back in front with one fifty two to play.

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Speaker 2: Here's the snap hold his down, kick is on the

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Speaker 5: It is incomplete, so the field goal unit will come

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Speaker 2: So in overtime the Bills have the lead thirty four

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Speaker 2: twelve yard touchdown run by Jalen Hurts in overtime, and

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Speaker 2: end zone. The Eagles ran motion out to the right

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Speaker 2: and the Bills cheated that way. Hurtz came back to

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Speaker 5: By himself and coast it to the end zone for

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Speaker 2: That is your gut wrenching Toshiba game rewind Toshiba, the

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Speaker 2: official copier company of the Buffalo Bills. Chris Brown, Matty

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Speaker 2: Glab with you here at the start on a Buffalo

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Speaker 2: football Monday. And if you woke up like I did,

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Speaker 2: the frustration Bills fans, I really do. And you're welcome

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Speaker 2: to give us your takeaways from yesterday's game. At eight

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Speaker 2: Jake Elliott. That is the play of the game. There

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Speaker 2: the game. Fifty nine yards in a rainstorm on grass.

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Speaker 7: And they had two penalties on that play on that

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Speaker 8: And they were able to do so.

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Speaker 7: And the fifty nine yard field goal attempt is good

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Speaker 7: less every single loss this season, and they're in every game,

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Speaker 7: and it's great that they're in every game, but you

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Speaker 7: got to find a way to win these close games.

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Speaker 8: This team is talented enough on offense.

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Speaker 7: We saw Josh Allen be superhuman against this team four

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Speaker 7: total touchdowns. Yes, he did have an interception. There were

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Speaker 7: too many missed opportunities. There's too much talent on this

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Speaker 2: Right, and yesterday's game was probably an accurate microcosm of

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Speaker 2: to lead us off in Buffalo. We got first, David,

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Speaker 9: Hey, So I did one of the basements. They Bill's

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Speaker 9: definitely played their ass off. It's definitely been a lot

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Speaker 9: better of a game that we've been playing. Then lately,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good points, David, thanks for the call. Yeah. The

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Speaker 2: It was one of many that weren't called so and

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Speaker 2: So it really just defied logic and common sense in

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Speaker 7: And there's the screenshot of the ref with his eyes

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Speaker 8: Your eyes were directly on what was going on? What

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Speaker 7: And again, you can't you can't go through all the

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Speaker 7: but it's tough to harp on them with watching how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they ran the football more in the second half

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Speaker 2: Let's go to gar out in Philadelphia. What do you

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Speaker 10: Good morning, guys. How you guys doing well?

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Speaker 2: We're hanging in there.

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Speaker 10: I just wanted to call in. I'm talking to a

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Speaker 10: you guys are complaining about the refs. Just wanted to

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Speaker 10: he didn't yank him, and that's why the ref didn't

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Speaker 10: Stefan Diggs and Slay, the ref that was picture was

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Speaker 10: he had no call on that play, you know, But the.

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Speaker 2: Side judge and the line judge, you're looking at that

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Speaker 2: It's on the back. I mean it's covering the first

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Speaker 2: even give you the fact that it's not a horse collar.

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Speaker 2: You want to give me that it's intentional grounding, and

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Speaker 2: you don't want to give me the horse caller, give

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Speaker 2: me the intentional grounding and take that off.

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Speaker 4: How about that?

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Speaker 11: I agree with you. I agree with you on that.

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Speaker 10: But my last thing, I would say, here, two more

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Speaker 10: go ahead. My thing here. The first half, you guys

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Speaker 10: were up eleven penalties. Second half, you guys actually was

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Speaker 10: we had three for twenty five yards and you guys

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Speaker 10: have one for five in the second half, you know, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it finishes eleven to four. How is that fair?

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Speaker 10: But but with that being said, if you guys don't

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Speaker 10: miss the extra point the field goal, if you guys

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Speaker 10: don't get the field goal blocked.

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Speaker 2: And callolge all that. Look here, I'll be the first

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Speaker 2: if you look at those penalties, try to be as

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Speaker 2: as best as we can. We know we're biased and

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Speaker 2: you're probably biased too, But I don't think there's any

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Speaker 2: question that if there aren't ten penalties against the Bills

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Speaker 2: in the first half, four of which probably should not

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Speaker 2: a ten point lead at halftime, and that's instrumental in

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Speaker 10: But that ten points that you're swinging, that ten points

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Speaker 10: right there?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 10: But I will leave you guys with this. You know, rain,

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Speaker 10: sleet or snow eagles, a train to play, fly eagles fly?

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Speaker 6: Good? All right?

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Speaker 2: I mean that's fine. I mean, I will, I will

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Speaker 2: even give you the non horse collar, give me the

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Speaker 2: intentional grounding flag getting picked up. I mean, what are

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Speaker 2: we doing? Yeah, you know, the lead should have been

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Speaker 2: game they overcame a lot of those horrible penalty calls

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Speaker 2: and scored points anyway. They had their own share of miscues.

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Speaker 2: You're right about the field goal issues, and we talked

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Speaker 2: about the James Cook drop pass on the first drive

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Speaker 2: the Bills, you know, also beat themselves at times yesterday too,

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Speaker 7: Yesterday and having the opportunity if some of those calls

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Speaker 7: the Eagles are not a good red zone defense. The

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Speaker 7: Eighty percent is what they were able to score efficiency

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Speaker 7: Eagles were allowing is sixty two point five percent chance

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get the phones. We go to Andrew and Houston. Next,

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Speaker 2: what do you got for his Andrew?

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Speaker 12: Hey, guys, I'm not too sure how to follow that

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Speaker 12: last caller. I've been listening a long time and I've

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Speaker 12: never even heard of a New England Patriots fan call

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Speaker 12: controlling us is pretty is pretty wild. I had two points.

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Speaker 12: You're gonna bet a lot of callers calling about firing McDermott,

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Speaker 12: which is obnoxious. A. He's done more positive for the

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Speaker 12: I just wish that we could have gone back and

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Speaker 12: Josh Allen so like, to me, that was almost like

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Speaker 12: we don't trust. He doesn't trust Josh enough to go

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Speaker 12: make a play. I know that's not the case. I

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Speaker 12: But at my second point, I love Jordan player and

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Speaker 12: I love Micah Hyde, but with two veterans like that

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Speaker 12: had six catches and one touchdown all year, two touchdowns

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Speaker 12: his whole career make that play in the end zone.

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Speaker 12: I mean that that that that to me was that's

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Speaker 12: unbelievable to me to be you know, Michaeh Hyde was

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Speaker 12: and Jordan was at half second late and maybe he

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Speaker 12: he caught it. But I get it. You know, NFL

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Speaker 12: they get paid too. But like, those two veterans should

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Speaker 12: have made that play on that ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for the call, Andrew appreciate it. I guess

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Speaker 2: what I would say is, whoops, hold on, I'm messing

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Speaker 2: up the phones here. Sorry, guys, Hang on a second.

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Speaker 2: I gotta get reorganized. Here, let me just hang up

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Speaker 2: on Andrew. Thanks for the call first and foremost. With

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Speaker 2: from their own twenty five yard line. You try to

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Speaker 2: get about fifty yards, excuse me, try to get fifty

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Speaker 2: yards at least forty and you can get Tyler Bass

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Speaker 2: in field goal range. It's regulation. You know the game

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Speaker 2: is still going. It's twenty seconds to try to get

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Speaker 2: down the field, get in field goal range for a

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Speaker 2: game winning kick, and if you do that, the game

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Speaker 2: is over. And I was just very perplexed as to

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Speaker 2: That just did not compute for me. So I don't know,

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Speaker 2: for my money, I would have tried something. You've got

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest armed quarterbacks in football. And what

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Day game last year. Ye and I said to myself, Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: let me think why why is Sean McDermott making a

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Speaker 2: different decision here with twenty seconds left than he did

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Speaker 2: in a tie game in Detroit on Thanksgiving last year?

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Speaker 2: So I went back and I looked, and I said, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what was the situation on Thanksgiving last year? Twenty three

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Speaker 2: seconds on the clock. The Bills had all three timeouts

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Speaker 2: the middle thirty six yards, gets him out to the

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Speaker 2: sixteen seconds left. Josh scrambles for three yards. Time out

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Speaker 2: number two with thirteen seconds left, second and seven from

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Speaker 2: the Detroit thirty six Allen runs again around the right

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Speaker 2: Forty five yard field goal. Pristine conditions on turf indoors ballgame.

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Speaker 2: So the biggest difference is field conditions, weather. So maybe

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Speaker 2: you're concerned about ball security, maybe you're concerned about a sack.

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Speaker 2: To me, you're playing a defense that is dog tired.

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Speaker 2: Just march down the field on them with no problem.

437
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: And so for my money, I'm giving josh An opportunity

438
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: there if it's my choice. To me, I don't know

439
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 2: where you come down on it.

440
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Speaker 7: But the Eagles are one of the worst pass defenses

441
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 7: in the NFL. They were twenty eighth entering this game

442
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Speaker 7: in terms of passing yards that they allowed, thirtieth in

443
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 7: terms of passing touchdowns the amount over twenty that they

444
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Speaker 7: have allowed. I would have liked to see what the

445
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 7: Bills could do with twenty seconds. It's not like Alan

446
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 7: in the offense. We're back to their ways of scoring

447
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 7: just twenty five points a game.

448
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 8: This offense was back to scoring thirty or more.

449
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 7: They've done it in the last two weeks now, and

450
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 7: Alan was having a great game. Two in the air,

451
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 7: two on the ground, was finding room with his legs,

452
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 7: was converting third downs with his legs. And it's not

453
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 7: like the big plays weren't happening. There were four of them.

454
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 7: In terms of receptions. Gabe Davis had a twenty five

455
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 7: yard reception, Stefan Diggs twenty two yard reception, James Cook

456
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Speaker 7: that twenty nine yard play, Khalil Shakir a thirty one

457
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 7: yard reception. Josh Allen also had a nineteen yard run

458
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 7: play on the ground. So they were getting chunk plays

459
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 7: throughout this game. I know they didn't hit on every

460
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 7: single one that they tried to, but that's four big

461
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 7: plays of twenty or more yards that listed, and I

462
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 7: would have liked to have seen what this offense could

463
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 7: do with twenty seconds. Knowing that Josh Allen had a

464
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 7: great game going and he was hitting on some of

465
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 7: those some of those plays, and Joe Brady was calling

466
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 7: a great game as well.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so hard to fathom that one. Let's go back

468
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: to the phones and we go to Anthony in New

469
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: York City. What do you got for his Anthony, Chris Matty,

470
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: how you guys doing hanging in there?

471
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Speaker 6: Okay? How much of the game second half?

472
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Speaker 13: I did not give jim nant to Tony Romo called

473
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 13: Bambo's name once. We're paying them all his money to.

474
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Speaker 6: Get to the quarterback.

475
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 14: I can get to the quarterback once in the second half.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah money, Yeah, he's the only The only reason I

477
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: can give you, Anthony is he's still not all the

478
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: way back. We're at a calendar year since the injury,

479
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: which was on Thanksgiving of last year. We're a few

480
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: days past that now. He's been playing for the better

481
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: part of six weeks back in the lineup. Say again,

482
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: is playing with that break? I think he took it

483
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: off for the first time yesterday he said after a

484
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: year he was going to take it off. I don't

485
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: believe he had it on yesterday. But I will say

486
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: every case is different. With ACLS. He's a thirty three,

487
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: soon to be thirty four year old guy. I'm not

488
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: trying I'm not trying to use it as an excuse,

489
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: and every case is different, and I'm not going to

490
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: be an apologist for Vaughn. But I will say this

491
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: last year at this time when Tradevius White came back

492
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: from the ACL, the first game he played in was

493
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: one calendar year later and he was on a pitch count.

494
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: He played ten snaps against the Lions. Yeah. So I

495
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 2: don't know where we come down on this. They're clearly

496
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: trying to play him to get him back to form.

497
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: We haven't seen him at his best. Eric Wood, my

498
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: broadcast partner, also made a pretty good point regarding von Miller.

499
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 15: End of the game last night.

500
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 16: Yeah.

501
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: I mean he basically said, yeah, he basically said he's

502
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: not playing his normal allotment of snaps and that's part

503
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: of his game because he uses his snaps to set

504
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: up defend, set up offensive tackles. To trick him later

505
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: in the game. You almost kind of set him up

506
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: for an ultimate move when on a gotta have it play,

507
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: gotta get a sack, that type of thing. And when

508
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: you're playing probably less than half the snaps you normally do,

509
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: you can't set players up for those kinds of pass

510
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: rush moves. And I think there's some legitimacy to that

511
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: as well. But when does it show up? When do

512
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: we say there's the von Miller we all remember, everybody's guessing.

513
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: Nobody knows. Hopefully it's sooner rather than later in light

514
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: of the circumstances the Bills now find themselves. But I

515
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: realize the production that we're typically used to seeing from

516
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: Von Miller, we're not seeing it yet. Hopefully we see

517
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: it soon. That's the best I can do for you.

518
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 7: He played in twenty one snaps last night, so that's

519
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 7: thirty two percent of the game is what we saw.

520
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 7: Going back to a game last season and when he

521
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 7: was healthy. I'm trying to look at the snap count

522
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 7: just to compare quickly. Here, let's see von Miller Packers

523
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 7: game last year, played forty six snaps, seventy percent of

524
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 7: the time.

525
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: Half the snaps, and it just doesn't allow him to

526
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: set up plays. And we should also note, like we're

527
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: just a year past the time of the injury, not

528
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: the time of the surgery, which I believe was a

529
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: week and a half to two weeks after the injury,

530
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: so he's not even at a calendar you get on that.

531
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: And again, I'm not trying to be apologist for Vaughn,

532
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: but it's a long term injury. It's an older player.

533
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: I think it's just going to take longer. And I

534
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: know that's hard for fans to stomach because you'd love

535
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: to have him at the end of games. People remember

536
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 2: the Chiefs game last year. He's instrumental in why that

537
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: interception is thrown by Patrick Mahomes at the end of

538
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: the game to seal it for Buffalo twenty four to

539
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: twenty in Week five last season. I get it, I

540
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: really do. But you can't rush rehab or a guy

541
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: feeling right again. Even Eric himself, who had an ACL

542
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: injury in his career, said while he was back playing

543
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: a year after the injury, he didn't feel right until

544
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: eighteen months later, like himself again, like his leg feels

545
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: like the other one. That kind of stuff. So it takes.

546
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: Every case is different. Some people take longer than others.

547
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: Hopefully Von is back to Von formed sooner rather than later.

548
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, But if you're holding at

549
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: eight h three zero, five point fifty one eight eight

550
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: eight five point fifty two, five point fifty, we will

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00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: get to you. We're taking your phone calls for your

552
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: takeaways from yesterday's heartbreaker in Philadelphia. Chris Brown, Maddy Glad

553
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Speaker 2: no Onen surprise is Josh Allen twenty nine fifty one

559
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: passing for three hundred and thirty nine yards, two touchdowns

560
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: and a pick, nine carries for eighty one yards and

561
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: two rushing touchdowns for a total of four In the game,

562
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: he accounted for four hundred and twenty yards of total offense,

563
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: and unfortunately it came in a loss in overtime thirty

564
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: seven thirty four to the Eagles. Let's get back to

565
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: the phones though at eighth three, five fifty, and we

566
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: lead off here with Nick in Atlanta. What do you

567
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: got for his? Nick?

568
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 16: Good morning guys. A couple of miscues and would be

569
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 16: singing a different song today. But I was listening to

570
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 16: a couple of the national sports channels this morning and

571
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 16: some of them commented on the officiating. They all agreed

572
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 16: that the Bill should have won the game, but they

573
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 16: were all in agreement as to why would Sean McDermott

574
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 16: call a timeout just before their fifty nine yard field

575
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 16: goal attempt when Philly had no timeouts. They had to

576
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 16: rush some players on, some players off, the kicker had

577
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 16: to rush the kick. The timeout actually calmed the kicker

578
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 16: down instead of iceing that it actually helped them, And

579
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 16: that's what the other sports channels were talking about.

580
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 6: Your take on.

581
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I mean it's a valid question. I get it.

582
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: I would have preferred to save that time out for

583
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: you know, getting the ball back and doing that. I

584
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: want to kind of go back because I'm trying to

585
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: remember the circumstances there exactly, because there was let me

586
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: look here really quick, because I want to get back

587
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: to the final possession. So it's a third and seventeen

588
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: and it's an incomplete pass. The clock had stopped anyway,

589
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: so yeah, you got to get out there before the

590
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: play clock expires. I get that. But they were all

591
00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: lined up for the kick I don't know, and then

592
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: call the time out to try to ice the kicker.

593
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: That was the point of the time out. They were

594
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 2: ready to kick it and the clock had stopped. It

595
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: wasn't a running clock. I mean the play clock had started,

596
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: but the clock had stopped. So to me, I don't

597
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: know if I'm buying that. I don't know if you

598
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: feel differently, Mannie.

599
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think it's one of those calls where

600
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 7: you know, if Jake Elliott misses that kick, it's you

601
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 7: forget about it. It's one of those calls, one of

602
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 7: those plays in the game where you go back to

603
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 7: and you say, oh, maybe if you would have done

604
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 7: the opposite of what happened, there would have been a

605
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 7: different outcome.

606
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: Right, But I mean, third and seventeen hurts, his pass

607
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: is incomplete, the clock stops, so now you have a

608
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: chance to run your unit onto the field and the

609
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: clock's not running, you're not worried about running out of time,

610
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: not to mention the fact that there was thirty seconds

611
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: left anyway. If anything, they might be lined up and

612
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: hanging out for ten seconds to try to run more

613
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: clock off, knowing if they tie the game, they want

614
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: to leave you with less time. They're probably just worried

615
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 2: about operation at the end of the day more than

616
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: anything else. But the Bills got exactly what they want wanted,

617
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: which was a long, unlikely field goal attempt on a

618
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: rain soaked field in a rainstorm, and he hit it anyway.

619
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: That's why I said at the top of the show,

620
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: Jake Elliott had the play of the game. I don't

621
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: care what anybody else did in that game. A fifty

622
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: nine yard field goal in those conditions on grass unbelievable.

623
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: It was the play of the game by far. Let's

624
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: go to Connor in Rochester next. What do you got

625
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: for us? Connor?

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00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 17: Hey, how's it going today? Real quick? Just want to

627
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 17: wish my brother Tom a happy birthday. Happy birthday, Tea.

628
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 17: I love you, man, I miss you. I hope everything's

629
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 17: going for you well.

630
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 11: Don BC.

631
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 17: Secondly, I just want to say, you know, something happened

632
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 17: with Zack Dermott.

633
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 18: The first few years of his career.

634
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 17: He was pulling all the right strings, making all the

635
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 17: right moves. These last few years, if there's a wrong

636
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 17: decision to be made, he's going to make it.

637
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 15: I mean, I don't know.

638
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 17: He was playing off and that last weather third four,

639
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 17: he gave him a little cushion. That was an easy

640
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 17: first down. Keep that drive going, the timeouts, like the

641
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 17: last caller was saying before that kick, and just you know,

642
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 17: overall he is just he's just dropping the ball lately.

643
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 17: And I think taking on this defensive coordinator position is

644
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 17: pulling them away from a lot of things, and it's

645
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 17: just it's it's creating a lot of little things that

646
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 17: add up to us losing these close games.

647
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: Connor, just so I have it right. Are you talking

648
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: about the third and four on the overtime drive or

649
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: the end of regulation drive.

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00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 17: I believe, Shoot, there's probably a wrong plan both those,

651
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 17: but if we win, I think it was the overtime one.

652
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 17: It was like a third and four, just like a

653
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 17: little four yard out. Who was it? Was it Dotson

654
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 17: or Bernard? Who actually went out to cover him.

655
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: It was Devonte Smith on the kick. Yeah, okay, I

656
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: just wanted to make sure I knew which play you

657
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: were talking about, so I could just kind of give

658
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: you my take on it. So thanks for the call

659
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: on that. I understand where you're coming from. I went

660
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: back and I looked at the last two drives by

661
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: the Eagles and just kind of tried to break it

662
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: down as best I could, play by play, not knowing

663
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: for sure what every coverage or play call was because

664
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 2: we don't have the all twenty two copy available to

665
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: us yet. We just have the TV copy and that

666
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: third and four that you're referencing, which is right before

667
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: the final two plays. They called a zone coverage there,

668
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: and on that side of the field you had Dodson

669
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: and Rasul Douglas and Jalen Hurtz went to Devonte Smith

670
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: underneath and he was wide open. Dotson got out leveraged

671
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: to the flat. Douglas has to respect the deep route

672
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: that went up the sideline, so he's covering deep and

673
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 2: then has to react to what happens in front of him.

674
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: So Smith wisely sat down and just gets past the

675
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: sticks after he catches a football for a first down

676
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: and then two plays later there in the end zone.

677
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: Could you be more aggressive there? Absolutely? That was one

678
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: one of the very few play calls where I think,

679
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: if you want to call the play caller into question,

680
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: you could do that for me on the last two

681
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: drives of the game. Defensively, for the Bills, I think

682
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: for the most part, the play calls were fine. I

683
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: think there are two or three that if you want

684
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: to call into question, I think you have a legitimate argument.

685
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 2: I think there are also three or four plays where

686
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: they were executed poorly. They were either misaligned, they over pursued,

687
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: they missed a tackle, and it led to positive plays

688
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: for the Eagles. And you know, you heard McDermott after

689
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: the game, Mattie say, we just needed to make one

690
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: more play here, one more play there. And I know

691
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 2: that sounds like coach speak, but after reviewing this again

692
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: this morning play by play, he's actually right. Like, there's

693
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: a couple of plays that they could have made that

694
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: they did not, and then there were a couple of

695
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: added plays that the Eagles made that made the difference

696
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: for them. I'm thinking of the DeAndre Swift run play.

697
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: It's a design run to the right, he sees there

698
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: is nothing there. He bends it all the way back

699
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 2: to the left, and it's a first down run. That's

700
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: a player making a play outside of structure, which we

701
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: see Josh Allen do all the time. But that's DeAndre

702
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: Swift making a play outside of structure at the most

703
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 2: critical time in the football game. Now, that doesn't mean

704
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: that the Bills didn't have some themselves. The Eagles pull

705
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: Terrel Bernard out of the middle of the defense, so

706
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: they take the spy on Jalen Hurts out of the equation.

707
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: He's outside the numbers near the Bill's sideline. There is

708
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: nobody behind the defensive line. Heurtz immediately sees man coverage,

709
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: does the quarterback draw up the middle, and Ed Oliver

710
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: makes a fantastic play, sheds the block and tackles him

711
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: for only a three yard game. If he doesn't do that,

712
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: that's the ballgame, because he runs thirty yards for a touchdown.

713
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: So the Bills did make a couple of plays in

714
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: crunch time. The Eagles just made a few more.

715
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 7: As I saw it, Yeah, and you hear after you know,

716
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 7: tough losses like this where the game is down to

717
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 7: the final couple drives. You go in overtime and you

718
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 7: hear fans say a lot the Bills just play soft

719
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 7: zone all the time in those situations. But going through it,

720
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 7: you only could point out a couple times where you

721
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 7: could say, Okay, maybe we go back and look at

722
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 7: this and maybe a different call would have gone better

723
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 7: on this play. But it's not like this team was

724
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 7: in soft zone on every single play. And the final

725
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 7: two drives of the game on defense, yeah, and.

726
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: They called pressures. I've got one, two, three five man

727
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: pressures over the last two drives and two zero blitzes.

728
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 8: So that is being aggressive it is now.

729
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: The zero blitz on the last play of the game,

730
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: probably not the best play call, but you're trying to

731
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 2: be aggressive, make something happen.

732
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 11: Now.

733
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: The play call wasn't the zero blitz. Play call on

734
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: the last play of the game wasn't as bad as

735
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: the execution was. The execution was terrible on that play

736
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: because right before the snap to rel Bernard and Taron

737
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: Johnson are trying to communicate on something about alignment, and

738
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: then Micah Hyde, who's behind Torell Bernard. I don't know

739
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: if Bernard's expecting him to cover the right side of

740
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: their field, and because Bernard and Johnson are bumped out

741
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: to the left after the motion by the back, they

742
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: drift that way and then Hurt sees that its man

743
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: coverage hide also goes that way, so the entire left

744
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: side of the field is open, and Hurts wisely exploits

745
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: it for the game winning twelve yard touchdown run in overtime.

746
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: It's unfortunate, but that's not necessarily as bad a call

747
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: as it is poor execution. Let's go back to the

748
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: phones and to Judy and Buffalo here before the break.

749
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,240
Speaker 2: What do you got?

750
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 19: Well, as far as I'm concerned, the offense and defense

751
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 19: played well enough to win the game. I have no complaints,

752
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 19: but we need to look at the special teams. For

753
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 19: the second game in a row, special teams lost this game.

754
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 19: Tyler Bass for some reason, can't get enough lift on

755
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 19: a kick so that it can't be blocked. Secondly, they

756
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 19: can kick a sixty yard field goal and we cannot

757
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 19: block it. Secondly, whenever he goes to kick a field goal,

758
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 19: I hold my breath. For some reason, his kicks always

759
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 19: knuckle to the right, and the same thing happened this time.

760
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 19: So let's face it. Special teams lost that game as

761
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 19: well as the last game.

762
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 20: Yeah.

763
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: I think you're referring to the Denver game, Judy, because

764
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: there is a win in between there against the Jets.

765
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

766
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean he's had a little bit of a rough

767
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: stretch here. I don't think there's any question about it.

768
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: I mean, Tyler Bass is a weapon as a kicker,

769
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: but unfortunately his consistency has been compromised this year for

770
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: whatever reason. That's the second time he's had a kick

771
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: block this season. It was low off his foot. I

772
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: will say that you got to credit the Philadelphia defensive

773
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: front a little bit too. They got tremendous penetration on

774
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: the play. Jordan Davis blew up the Bills line and

775
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: then Jalen Carter filled the void and got so close

776
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: to the kicker that he was able to get a

777
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: hand on the football. I don't know if lift would

778
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: have made a difference if you go back and look,

779
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: the penetration is severe at the line of scrimmage by

780
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia front. As for his other miss yeah, it's unfortunate.

781
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: We know misses happened, we know the conditions were terrible,

782
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: But to your point, Jake Elliott bombed a fifty nine yarder.

783
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's had a rough stretch. He has not

784
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: been Tyler Bass like over the last month, or at

785
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: least what we've come to expect from Tyler Bass. And look,

786
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: it's a high standard and it's one he has established

787
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: because he has been so good. I'm sure he'll get

788
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 2: back on track. But in a game that you lose

789
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: by three points, it's magnified.

790
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 7: And I think as a whole, just special teams unit

791
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 7: as a whole, this is this team is used to

792
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 7: having really good play on special teams. They're used to

793
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 7: being top five, finishing top five every single season. This season,

794
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 7: in addition to some of these Tyler Bass miss field goals,

795
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 7: field position has been an issue for this team. And

796
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 7: I know you can look back at at previous games

797
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 7: this season and it being a big.

798
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 8: Effector in what happened throughout the game.

799
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 7: And it's a facet of the game that this team

800
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 7: is not used to. This team has been able to

801
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 7: rely on their special team units, from Tyler Bass to coverage,

802
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 7: to field position and things like that have not been

803
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 7: going in the favor of the Buffalo Bills this season.

804
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: Yes, it wasn't as bad this past week it was

805
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: also better last week, but against Denver it was not good.

806
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: And against Tampa they were backed up a good amount

807
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: managed to win that game anyway. So they've had their

808
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: struggles with flipping the field, and they've had their struggles

809
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: unfortunately with kicker accuracy. Got to take a break here,

810
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 2: but more of your phone calls when we come back

811
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,640
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826
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: text hope and why? Right back to the phones we go,

827
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 2: as we have many people waiting, we go to Franken

828
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: Tonawanda Nex. What do you got for us?

829
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 21: Frank Hey Brownie, how we don't again you put your

830
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 21: craft out there? Yesterday I had to say shut up

831
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 21: Romo about four times.

832
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 17: And I had my buddy listened to it.

833
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 21: That's my first point I make second, I don't know

834
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 21: what these Buffalo Bills fans are calling in talking shame

835
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 21: on McDermott. The coach has been through so much adversity

836
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 21: this season. Losing his defensive coordinator takes over the defense.

837
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 21: He lost three of his main pieces. I just think

838
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 21: that Bills fans don't know what to argue or complain about.

839
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 21: It's something new. Stop talking about Gabe Davis. Stop putting

840
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 21: shame on Gabe Davis's name. That man will step up

841
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 21: when they need to win the football game.

842
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 18: And he proved yesterday.

843
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 21: Sure he missed the pass in the end zone. Well,

844
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 21: let's talk about what past the Bills missed in the

845
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 21: end zone. What was the Eagles player during the back

846
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 21: of our end zone, just casually catching the ball. I

847
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 21: think that the defense has some serious problems, but they

848
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 21: got to stop coming after McDermott number three.

849
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 15: What's wouldes Philadelphia.

850
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 21: Jamocha come in and say? And that wasn't a horsepower?

851
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 22: What type of.

852
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 21: Football is this guy watching? Giving me the Eagles song

853
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 21: as he hangs up calling my radio station? What kind

854
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 21: of wings does this guy eaton? Ranch?

855
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 14: All right?

856
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 21: And my last question, Look, I know McDermott has been

857
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 21: through adversity, but Brownie, do you think he's fit to

858
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 21: coach this football team one more year? I'll hang out,

859
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 21: thank you?

860
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I yes, the answer is yes. And

861
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: I know that's not a popular opinion, but you know,

862
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: I think when you look at it and look, I

863
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: already mentioned this to Maddie, I mentioned it on the air.

864
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: I went through the last two drives by the Eagles

865
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: play by play, watching it back again and just trying

866
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: to take notes on the play call, the outcome, the execution,

867
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: and basically I think there are only about two, maybe

868
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: three plays on the last two drives where if you

869
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: want to call into question the play call, you can

870
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: argue it outside of that, I think that the other

871
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: plays were either due to poor execution by the defense

872
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: in terms of player decision making player execution. There were

873
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: other instances where the Eagles just made a better play

874
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: or better decision, And so you roll all of that together,

875
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: and I think to put it on the coach alone,

876
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: And I understand he's the head coach, it's his responsibility

877
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: for everything, but to put it on him alone, I

878
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: think is a little misguided.

879
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, there's things that happen throughout this game

880
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 7: that if it would have gone in Buffalo's favor and

881
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 7: the Bills would have been able to win, you can't

882
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 7: put a drop on Sean McDermott. There were some drops

883
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 7: that happened out there that were ill timed drops that

884
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 7: if you would have caught the ball, you would have

885
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 7: been able to walk in for a touchdown. You can't

886
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 7: put that on Sean. You can't put players sometimes not

887
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 7: being in the right place on Sean when those are

888
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 7: things that you rep and you practice throughout the entire week.

889
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 7: So you mix everything together, and this loss is not

890
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 7: just on the head coach. It's on several different facets

891
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 7: throughout this game. The penalties are one thing. The drops

892
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 7: are one thing. Sure, you can point to a couple

893
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 7: play calls and wonder about them and wonder maybe it

894
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 7: should have been called differently, but that's not the entire game.

895
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 7: And if you're just looking at that one or two

896
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 7: or three things that you could put on sean, then

897
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 7: you're not looking at the whole game correctly, right.

898
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: And I think the Bills have been very hard pressed

899
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 2: to play a complete three phase football game. They came

900
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: closest probably last week against the Jets. That's probably their

901
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: best three phase performance in two months. Yesterday they did

902
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: not get a three phase performance. They got great defensive

903
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 2: football for two and a half quarters, they got great

904
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: offensive football pretty much throughout, and they got okay special

905
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: teams play at best. And against the defending NFC champion,

906
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: you can't play one and a half of the three

907
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: phases of solid football and expect to win the game.

908
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: It just does not work that way. The margins are

909
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: too narrow in this league, and when you're going up

910
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: against a true Super Bowl contender, you've got to be

911
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: at your best in all three phases. And that flat

912
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: out didn't happen. More of your phone calls in our

913
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: number two so we'll get to you if you're waiting

914
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: at eighth three, five point fifty for your takeaways from

915
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: yesterday's overtime loss to the Eagles. Here on one Pills

916
00:50:25,120 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: Live presented by Kilida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

917
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: The one Bills Live presented by called Lighta Health.

918
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two on a

919
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: Buffalo Football Monday. Chris Brown Steve Tasker joins us here

920
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: for the final two hours, and uh, yeah, tough one

921
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: to take for sure. We're gonna get to your phone

922
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: calls here. We got a lot of people holding. We're

923
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: gonna try to get through as many as we can

924
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: here in this segment. As we are taking your phone

925
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 2: calls at eight oh three oh five fifty one eighty

926
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two, five fifty. You want to thanks

927
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: rattle off initial thoughts here, Steve.

928
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 4: Maddi, you're taking over. I had a family event that

929
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: I needed to attend, and I appreciate the grace that

930
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 4: let me do that, But yeah, it was uh and

931
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 4: I was telling Brownie before we came on. BROWNI and

932
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 4: I have not even seen each other until about fifteen

933
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 4: seconds ago, and that you look at the reason and

934
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 4: these losses are so frustrating for the Bills is think

935
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 4: about how wide the margin of error is for this roster,

936
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 4: the Brandon Bean, Sean McDermott and these guys have put together.

937
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: They are loaded. You're dropping touchdown passes on the first

938
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 4: play of the game. You're getting kneecapped by the officials.

939
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 4: You're missing two field goals, you're getting you're getting three

940
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 4: consecutive penalties to take you out from getting points after

941
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 4: a turnover that your defense have gotten. You could have

942
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 4: beaten the NFC chance by twenty one minimum and you

943
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 4: end up losing in overtime because you used up the

944
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: entire margin of error that your team has, and it

945
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 4: is enormous. That's why it's so frustrating for guys to

946
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 4: sit around and watch these games. How do we lose

947
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 4: these How do we lose these games? We should have

948
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 4: beaten them like a tent steak with a flat rock,

949
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 4: and we end up walking out of their losers. It's

950
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 4: incredibly frustrating, and everybody had a hand in it. Judy,

951
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 4: you're right too, missfield goals. You should have got got

952
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 4: a block field goal. You think their special teams team,

953
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 4: their special teams over there are jumping up and down

954
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 4: saying they won the game.

955
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: That was the play of the game. Does the play

956
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: of the game fifty nine yard field goal and those conditions,

957
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: it's the best play in the entire game.

958
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: You take three off the board for the Bills, you

959
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 4: put three on, you take three off the board, you

960
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: miss one. It's just an incredible swing. And you're sitting

961
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 4: here looking at this team at this at this stage,

962
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: and let me tell you something, Josh is the best

963
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 4: player in the league, period. He's playing better than anybody

964
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: in the league. Mahomes hurts all of them, Josh, they're

965
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 4: not even They can't even get in at the table

966
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 4: with where Josh Allen's sitting. He has no shot at

967
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 4: the MVP none. They got to win. If they somehow

968
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 4: scratch and clock get him, maybe they'll give him a

969
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: shot at Otherwise he's got no shot at it. And

970
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: he is far and away the best guy in the

971
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 4: league at any position.

972
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what the Eagles defensive players were saying after

973
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: the game. They're like, Josh Allen's that dude.

974
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 4: He is there. Nobody can even get at the table

975
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 4: with Josh Allen this year. Mahomes usually can but he's

976
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 4: playing bad, he's playing mediocre. His team around him is

977
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 4: kind of dissolving. They're not they can't find their way,

978
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. You know, it's unbelievable

979
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 4: how Josh is playing right now and nobody, nobody's talking

980
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 4: about him because good grief, they're six and six.

981
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got a five hundred record to show for

982
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: all his efforts. And I think that's a lot of

983
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 2: what frustrates Bills fans.

984
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 4: But let's go to theve. I came in and started

985
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 4: right in on a rant.

986
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's fine, you know, that's fine. Gosh, let's

987
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 2: go to the phones and down to Joe in Texas.

988
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

989
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 6: Joe?

990
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 23: Hey, guys, how you doing today?

991
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: Doing all right?

992
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:43,479
Speaker 14: Hey?

993
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 23: So you know, I'm sure everybody was thinking overtime. We

994
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 23: got to get the coin toss and we must score

995
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 23: a touchdown, and you gotta do it. You're in control

996
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 23: of the game right there.

997
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 6: You can win it or it.

998
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 20: Bliss.

999
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 11: On that third and seven, I.

1000
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 23: Mean, do you guys think we might have should have

1001
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 23: called time out, set up a play, get that first down,

1002
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 23: or or just go for it. On fourth we give

1003
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 23: the ball back to Philly. You know, we ain't got

1004
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 23: no control over it anymore. And I know we go

1005
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 23: by analytics, but Bill's analytics are a little bit different

1006
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 23: than everybody else.

1007
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 6: Is right.

1008
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have liked to have seen I'd like

1009
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 4: to have seen Josh just take it over and just

1010
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 4: call a time out right there if he saw it coming,

1011
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 4: he didn't think he was gonna get get the playoff.

1012
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 4: I'm with you, A quick time out would have really

1013
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 4: helped him. But you also got to know, I mean,

1014
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 4: that's he's you know, he's the dude, so he's gonna think, hey,

1015
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: I got this, but a time out right there. Now,

1016
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 4: there's nothing says they couldn't have made a different play

1017
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 4: and it would have gone the Bill's way after that,

1018
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 4: But he sure would have prevented that play from happening

1019
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 4: on that on that uh, when they got the zero

1020
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 4: blitz and they were unprepared when he caught him. That's

1021
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 4: to me, Yeah, I would have like to quick time

1022
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 4: out right there. And you can say, and when you

1023
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 4: get into the head coaching, maybe an offensive head coach

1024
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 4: sees it quicker than Sean would have seen it, or

1025
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 4: you perceived it quicker, and maybe called the time out,

1026
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 4: but that's all that's on Josh too. Just take the

1027
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 4: quick time out, get a different play and say, hey,

1028
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 4: this is what they're thinking, and then go from there

1029
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 4: and give yourself just a little second to take a.

1030
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: Breath and just so you know, Joe. As far as

1031
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: analytics go, the Bills are near the front of the

1032
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: pack when it comes to the decisions that are made

1033
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: in terms of analytical and win probability models. There are

1034
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: charts out every week all across social media, and the

1035
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 2: Bills are usually in the top three in terms of

1036
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: making the right call at the right time based on

1037
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: analytics and win probability, like going for it on fourth down.

1038
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: For example, Sean McDermott said after the game on fourth

1039
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: and six they gave some thought to going for it,

1040
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: but because it was fourth and six, the probability model

1041
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: were not favorable for the Bills even at the Philly

1042
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: twenty two yard line. Coach McDermott said, if it was

1043
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: a fourth and two, or even maybe a fourth and three,

1044
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: there was a greater chance they would have gone for

1045
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: it there to try to extend the drive and then

1046
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: finish the game with a touchdown. That did not happen.

1047
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: As we know, they took the field goal.

1048
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 22: There.

1049
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jim in tanawand Nex. What do you

1050
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: got for first?

1051
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 14: Jim, Good afternoon, guys, and I'm a first time caller

1052
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 14: and a long long time listener.

1053
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: Thanks.

1054
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 14: I'd like to dog, Yes, I'd like to talk a

1055
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 14: little bit about the horse collar that wasn't called and

1056
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 14: get into the situation where I guess Ppily had a

1057
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 14: press conference last night and talked to the media. Was

1058
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 14: stated in the news today and his comment was that

1059
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 14: because the hand was on the front of the jersey,

1060
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 14: that's why he didn't think it was a horse collar. Now,

1061
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 14: you were good enough and kind enough to show the

1062
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 14: replay about four times that hand on the front of

1063
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 14: the jersey was the left hand and pulled down the shirt.

1064
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 14: But all it did was stabilize the individual at that

1065
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 14: point or Josh at that time, when the hand went

1066
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 14: on the back, making it a horse collar, that's when

1067
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 14: the movement happened. It looked like a sideways backwards movement.

1068
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 14: But my point is that in a situation like that,

1069
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 14: good officials, good officials would sit and take a look

1070
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 14: and say that looks like a horse collar and throw

1071
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 14: the flag anyway, So you throw the flag, you get together,

1072
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 14: everybody agrees it's not a horse collar, which it was,

1073
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 14: but it agrees it's not a horse collar. Then you

1074
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 14: do exactly what these guys do every game, which there

1075
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 14: was no fun foul on the play.

1076
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're right, Yeah, Jim, it should have been called,

1077
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 4: no question about it. There's just no way around it.

1078
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 4: It was a miscall. It was right in front of him,

1079
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 4: and because of the speed with which it happened, the angles,

1080
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 4: all of that, he just he just didn't see it.

1081
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: He's staring right at us.

1082
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 4: Plus the biggest, the egregious thing too, is Gabe Davis

1083
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 4: was was right there. I mean they was right there.

1084
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 4: They missed that play every single possible way you could,

1085
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 4: and then put a and then gave a penalty to

1086
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 4: the team that should have that received the foul it was.

1087
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 4: They couldn't have gotten it wrong. They got it wrong

1088
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 4: three ways, right off the top of your head. One,

1089
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 4: it was a horse collar, should have been called. Two

1090
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 4: gave Davis was tent and there shouldn't have been passing

1091
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 4: in ptentional grounding. And three you call a penalty on

1092
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 4: the bills when there was a penalty on whatever. So, yeah,

1093
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 4: they could not have screwed that play up any worse,

1094
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: no question about it, And yeah, you got to live

1095
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 4: with it. Now, having said all of that, you're still

1096
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 4: up by ten and a half. You come out, they score,

1097
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 4: you get the ten point lead back again, and you

1098
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 4: can't hold it. So there's a bunch of stuff that

1099
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 4: happens after that that they can recover them. That's what

1100
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: happens in the first half of these games when you know,

1101
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 4: you see these plays in the first half, and it's like, okay,

1102
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 4: you can kind of when you got a team like

1103
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 4: the Bills, you can kind of overcome that stuff because

1104
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 4: you have time in the game, you have a multiple

1105
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 4: possessions coming up, you got halftime, you got all this

1106
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 4: stuff that's happening that you can't see yet, but you're

1107
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 4: gonna get the ball band a bunch of times to

1108
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 4: overcome it. And the Bills seemingly did so that's why

1109
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 4: it's hard to live with. But how different does that

1110
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 4: game turn out if the Bills don't try a field

1111
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 4: goal right there and miss it, or go in for

1112
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 4: a tea or go in for a touchdown. So instead

1113
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 4: of looting not getting any points, which I don't think

1114
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 4: they did on that drive. Maybe they did. Anyway, you

1115
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 4: get seven points out of that and your lead is

1116
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 4: now seventeen instead of ten, or thirteen instead of ten,

1117
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 4: So that's you're right. It has a ripple effect throughout

1118
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 4: the rest of the game, and it does make a difference.

1119
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 4: But to that point, the Bills overcame all of the

1120
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 4: the eight to one, nine to one penalty difference in

1121
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 4: the first half there was, and it was egregious, and

1122
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 4: you know, they overcame it. So the ripple effects are

1123
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 4: one thing, but the fact that they had the ability

1124
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 4: to overcome it is another. That was the block field goal,

1125
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 4: so they they they don't get any points down nothing,

1126
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 4: so they got nothing instead of either touchdown or shorter

1127
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 4: field goal attempt. So yeah, that's play. Does make a

1128
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 4: big difference, and that's what you got to live with.

1129
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 4: And I'll say it again as it was my opening

1130
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 4: thing right here at the top just a couple of

1131
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 4: minutes ago. The margin, the margin of area for this

1132
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 4: roster is gigantic. I mean, they're walking people down who shouldn't,

1133
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 4: who who we would think would give them some some

1134
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 4: some trouble. They thumped the Eagles thumped them and lost

1135
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 4: in over time. That's how big their marginal areas. They absolutely,

1136
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 4: you know, got the Eagles got served this win on

1137
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 4: a silver platter by that officiating in the first half,

1138
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 4: by the Bill's uh blunders in the second half, they're

1139
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 4: dropping touchdown passes on the opening drive. Oh my gosh,

1140
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 4: what are you doing? They miss a field goal or

1141
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 4: get a field goal blocked, and you're up by You

1142
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 4: would have been up by twenty.

1143
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: Yep, you don't have to tell me. I already did

1144
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 2: the math last night. Let's go to Tom on the

1145
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: west side. What do you got for his time?

1146
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 15: Good afternoon, guys. A couple of quick comments, and then

1147
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 15: I'll make my statement. Steve even sometimes a flat rock

1148
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 15: will break on you and all the people that are

1149
01:02:53,920 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 15: getting down on on. Oh Jesus, the wide receiver in

1150
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 15: the rock. Yeah, Gabe Davis, he had the outside edge

1151
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 15: on that corner back, so logic says he's going to

1152
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 15: go to the corner, not the skinny post. But Josh

1153
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 15: threw it to the skinny post. So I blame that

1154
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 15: play more on Josh than I do on Gabe. Now, yeah,

1155
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 15: I want here's my statement. I tell people all the

1156
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 15: time that sometimes you got to beat the russ and

1157
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 15: the opponents. And I knew that it was going to

1158
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 15: be that way yesterday on the very first Eagle drive

1159
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 15: because if you looked at the very first play that

1160
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 15: the Eagles ran, the tackle, the right tackle is holding

1161
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 15: runner Floyd's the back of the bottom of his jersey. Well,

1162
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 15: Floyd was going after hurts no flag. On the third

1163
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 15: play of that drive, the left tackle pulled Rousseau right

1164
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 15: to the ground on the play no flag. So at

1165
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 15: that point on I knew that we were going to

1166
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 15: have to meet the rust that day. Now, the Bills

1167
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 15: overcame all that and they gave themselves an opportunity to win,

1168
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 15: but they just couldn't do it. And I give kudos

1169
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 15: to Bean and Brant or Bean and McDermott for building

1170
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 15: the team that they have because even though we have

1171
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 15: all those injuries that we have, our defense is still

1172
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 15: playing stellar.

1173
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. I appreciate the call, Tom.

1174
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1175
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: You mentioned how their offensive line was not getting called

1176
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: for infractions, at least until the very late stages of

1177
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: the game, when Jason Kelsey was getting called for false starts.

1178
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: Connor mcgoverny got called for the exact play that you

1179
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 2: felt Eagles lineman should have got called for They called

1180
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: him for holding when the guy literally fell down in

1181
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: front of the government and he just pushed him on

1182
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: his back and they called offensive holding on that. It

1183
01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: was an absolute tire fire of officiating on Sunday. It's unfortunate,

1184
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: and I said it during the broadcast just like you

1185
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: just did. Tom. It was a kind of game where

1186
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 2: the Bills were going to have to make their own

1187
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: breaks because they were not going to get any from

1188
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 2: the officials. And for the most part they did. They

1189
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: overcame penalties, long down and distant situations. They had six

1190
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: conversions on third down of third and seven or more

1191
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 2: in the football. They largely overcame their setbacks that were

1192
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: either handed to them or that were self induced.

1193
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 4: They absolutely all three phases and that's you know, it

1194
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 4: adds to the frustration. All three phases have have had

1195
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 4: absolutely stellar moments and have fallen into the abyss. You

1196
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 4: know twelve, the special teams. You know, Tyger Bass has

1197
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 4: been great at times and then now he's been in consistent.

1198
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 4: He's missed a couple of kicks virtually and mister kicking

1199
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 4: every game of the last handful.

1200
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 2: And he's got two blocks on the season.

1201
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 4: Their punt return game has been spoted. They brought Andy

1202
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 4: Isabella up. He seemed to be okay last night.

1203
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: Didn't really factor their Their.

1204
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 4: Field position has been up and down. Offense has been

1205
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 4: as good as it can be, and then it's been

1206
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 4: frustrating to watch the defense because of the entries has

1207
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 4: been up and down and those you know, they've a

1208
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 4: lot of people are piling this on Sean McDermott. They've

1209
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 4: had the lead in the last two minutes of four

1210
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 4: of the losses they've had this year, They've had the

1211
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 4: lead with two minutes to go, and they and the

1212
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 4: opponent in their own end and they've won. They've managed

1213
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 4: to beat the Bills for those things. So all three

1214
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 4: sides of the football, offense, defensive, special teams have at

1215
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 4: times played elite and have at times played laughably inept

1216
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 4: twelve minute on the field to cost you a game.

1217
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, So we're on this roller coaster

1218
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 4: and man, we're all getting sick and ready to throw

1219
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 4: up the cotton candy, right, I mean, come on, I

1220
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 4: mean because let me.

1221
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 2: Tell you, I'll say you that it was a microcosm

1222
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 2: of this.

1223
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 4: Yes, it really was.

1224
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: It was an exercise in missed opportunities and mistakes that

1225
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: cost you yardage points and ultimately a football.

1226
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 4: This is how, this is how has how much of

1227
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 4: what a gone?

1228
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: Or?

1229
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 16: I am?

1230
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm ready. I'm nauseous from the roller coaster

1231
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 4: it's been. It's exhilarating a find. I'm ready get. But

1232
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 4: you know what, Let's go in and line. Let's get

1233
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 4: we got a game in two weeks.

1234
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 2: Get off. I'm getting off this.

1235
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 4: Let's all take a breath. Let's go over and like

1236
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 4: do something else at the carnival for this next bye week.

1237
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 4: Darts at the balloons. I'm gonna swing the sledgehammer and

1238
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 4: ring that bell about twenty times. I'm gonna swing that

1239
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 4: thing hard to use. I'm gonna do that somewhere else.

1240
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go, you know I need to. I'm gonna

1241
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 4: go guess the way to the fat guy.

1242
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1243
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 4: Uh see if I can win a pencil, you know,

1244
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 4: and then you know, I'll take a maybe get big stuff.

1245
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll eat some wings, have a pop, eat your feelings.

1246
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1247
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 4: And then in two weeks when they go to Kansas City,

1248
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 4: I'll be ready to get back on the right, get

1249
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 4: in line, and just get back on the roller coast.

1250
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 4: But right now, yeah, I'm gonna go over the bushes

1251
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna bend over and I'm gonna puke in

1252
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 4: the flowers.

1253
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 2: That's right, Okay, let's go to Scott in Illinois next.

1254
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: What do you got for a Scott Hi, guys.

1255
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 11: Hey, As frustrating as yesterday was, I kind of want

1256
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 11: to look at this from the thirty thousand foot level,

1257
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 11: and I think what is really frustrating to me is

1258
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 11: I watched joshas he played at Wyoming, and I really

1259
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 11: want to know why the conscious decision was made, whether

1260
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 11: it be because of twelve personnel or they maybe weren't

1261
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 11: handing hand at all, but why the conscious decision was

1262
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 11: made to tie him up, tie his legs up, and

1263
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 11: not play him how josh plays. And in my mind,

1264
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 11: that's at least two games as bad as yesterday would

1265
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 11: have been, I still think we have a is to

1266
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 11: play Joshua. Josh was meant to be played, and they were,

1267
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 11: and they made a conscious effort in the beginning to say,

1268
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 11: we don't want to get him hurt, we don't want

1269
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 11: to get hurt, but you can't have it both ways.

1270
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 11: You can't do that. And then the last two games,

1271
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 11: let him be free and let him play and oh,

1272
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 11: by the way, didn't get hurt doing it. And I

1273
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 11: think that's where we need to look at because I

1274
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 11: think I think the whole offensive slow down was because

1275
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 11: they tied him up. He showed yesterday just like Steveson

1276
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 11: in the beginning he was the best player in the NFL.

1277
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 11: They didn't let him be the best player in the

1278
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 11: NFL and the beginning of the year, and that's what's

1279
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 11: costing them now.

1280
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say this, and it's it's good call, Scott,

1281
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 4: and you're right. Who knows why it looked the way

1282
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 4: it did under Ken Dorsey. Nobody wanted this offense to

1283
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 4: look like it did. And we all love the way

1284
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 4: it looks now because of you know what it looked

1285
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 4: like last night and how awesome it is to see

1286
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 4: Josh play like he did. There's no telling, like nobody's

1287
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 4: over there saying, hey, just tell Josh never to run it,

1288
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 4: don't do don't turn it. Whatever they did to try

1289
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 4: and coach him to play better did not hit the

1290
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 4: right buttons with him. And so you can call away

1291
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 4: you want Nobody was trying to make Josh play worse. Nobody.

1292
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 4: But when you're trying to get him to play better

1293
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 4: and you're pushing this button, you're calling these plays and

1294
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 4: you're telling him to look here, and if this happens,

1295
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 4: do this. You know, all the ways that you're trying

1296
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 4: to make this offense evolve. Josh got left behind in that, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you started to say, well, if we're gonna

1298
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 4: do this, we're gonna limit ourselves in this. You know,

1299
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 4: if we're gonna have Josh stand in the pocket, get

1300
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 4: the ball out quick, or if we're gonna if we're

1301
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 4: gonna have under center, then that's gonna preclude his ability

1302
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 4: to run the football because the ball is going to

1303
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 4: be out of there and it's going to be play

1304
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 4: action and all of that, all of those stuff. That

1305
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 4: stuff goes in the mix. But know this, you don't

1306
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 4: really know. It's one of those things where you don't

1307
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 4: really know what the dish is gonna look like with

1308
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 4: all the ingredients you're putting in because it's always free flowing.

1309
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 4: And I'm sure they had a plan and they had

1310
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 4: some thing. They wanted this thing to work out the

1311
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 4: way they wanted it to work out. They wanted the

1312
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 4: guys to come open, they wanted the players to evolve

1313
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 4: and develop. But when they're obviously, when they were coaching

1314
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 4: Josh this year to get ready for this season, they

1315
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 4: had a plan that their offense was going to take

1316
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 4: another step and evolve a little bit from where it

1317
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 4: was at the end of last year when it was

1318
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 4: a little bit flat too. And then you have those

1319
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 4: three weeks been two, three, and four against the Raiders, Commanders,

1320
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 4: and Dolphins, and you go, okay, we kind of got this. Well,

1321
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 4: it kind of goes away and you start evolving to

1322
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 4: something that makes you look where you're not as effective.

1323
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 4: So I'm not trying to double talking here, but I'm

1324
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 4: saying these guys are coaching these guys up, and when

1325
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 4: they go out there and teams see it a different

1326
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 4: way than you do, and you start playing against a

1327
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 4: real defense, you kind of get an idea like, wait

1328
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 4: a minute, wait a minute, this isn't going like we

1329
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 4: thought it was gonna go. And then you start to

1330
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 4: disagree on how to fix that and you make changes.

1331
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, it was clear that it had been

1332
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 2: drilled into his head early in the season to not

1333
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: take off and run with the football, because there were

1334
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: numerous opportunities going all the way back to Week one

1335
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: when he throws the pick deep down the field to

1336
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis against the Jets, and he's got thirty yards

1337
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 2: of green grass in front of him, and we've seen

1338
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: him take that nine and a half times out of

1339
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: ten and he did not. It changed for whatever reason,

1340
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,919
Speaker 2: fortunately for the better as far as the offense is concerned,

1341
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 2: and it's probably going to have to continue down the

1342
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: stretch here knowing the margin for errors essentially zero going forward.

1343
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. We'll take more of your

1344
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 2: phone calls at eight oh three five point fifty one,

1345
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two, five point fifty. We also

1346
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 2: have to get around the locker room when we return

1347
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live, presented by Colia Health, It's

1348
01:12:47,120 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio, All right, tad to go around the

1349
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: locker room, presented by Connect Life, your Blood and organ

1350
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: Donor Network, and we begin with Bill safety Micah Hyde,

1351
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 2: who commented on the team seemingly being on the wrong

1352
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: side of so many close games this season.

1353
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 20: Either on one side or the other.

1354
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 24: You know, we've been fortunate enough around here for a

1355
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 24: long time to be on the winning side, and and

1356
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 24: it seems like this year every game comes down to

1357
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 24: the last two minutes.

1358
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 4: Offense has the ball, we have the ball, and this

1359
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 4: is the results.

1360
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 24: So you know, it's unfortunate, Like you just said, we

1361
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 24: could have nine ten wins right now, but that's a uh,

1362
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 24: that's a fantasy land and in real life. You know,

1363
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 24: we understand what our record is and it's the NFL

1364
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 24: man been doing it for a long time, and it's tough.

1365
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 20: You've been in a lot of locker rooms.

1366
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 4: What is it like with another one like this, with

1367
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 4: this group specifically, Uh, you know.

1368
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 24: We we we understand what our record is. You know,

1369
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 24: you can't you can't doubt that, you can't shy away

1370
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 24: from it. You know, we understand that this football team is.

1371
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 24: We definitely have a lot of upside. You know, it's

1372
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 24: crazy to say that and just coming you know, with

1373
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 24: our record being six and six, but I good to

1374
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 24: say the close games that we have that we've lost,

1375
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 24: and the games that we have lost have been by

1376
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 24: a few points. So we just got to continue to

1377
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 24: find a way in those situational moments to find a

1378
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 24: way to get a takeaway or you know, if the

1379
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 24: offense has the ball get a touchdown Gave.

1380
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 2: Davis addressed the miscommunication he had with Josh Allen on

1381
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 2: the important missed opportunity in overtime. He obviously broke to

1382
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 2: the corner, Josh was expecting him to break to the post.

1383
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: It ends up being an incomplete pass and they settle

1384
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 2: for a field goal in overtime, which allowed the game

1385
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 2: to continue. Here was Davis' take on that play.

1386
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 6: We had them, you know, just.

1387
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 20: Driving on the field looking good.

1388
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 24: Go Philly defense, and but I think day we knew

1389
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 24: we can win on against them, and you know, it

1390
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 24: was just a nice kid on.

1391
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 25: The last place?

1392
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 4: Is it after you said, you know, is it that simple?

1393
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 4: Is it that simple to be on the same page.

1394
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 26: I mean, you're talking about two guys bring the complex

1395
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 26: defense with Blitz is coming.

1396
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 4: Is it that simple? Should be that simple to be.

1397
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 15: On the same page.

1398
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 4: Yes, that's simple.

1399
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 24: We've were running it for four years, you know, so

1400
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 24: it is that simple.

1401
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 4: But you know, we just again, you know, mistakes happening.

1402
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: We both made a mistake on that'd be the same page.

1403
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 23: You know.

1404
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: Yep, So simple miscommunication there, but it proved pretty costly

1405
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: in the outcome of the football game. And then finally,

1406
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: head coach Sean McDermott on the team's defensive performance in

1407
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: the second half versus the Eagles in comparison to a

1408
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: very strong first half performance.

1409
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 27: Second half, they hit a couple of runs. You know,

1410
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 27: they went to the run game more Mike there and

1411
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 27: hit a couple of runs. And then it became a

1412
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 27: two dimensional type of game again with with their running

1413
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 27: game the RPOs. And then Hurts made a number of

1414
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 27: plays with his feet, more so in the second half

1415
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 27: than he did in the first half. So I thought

1416
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 27: we were rushing around the first half and playing good

1417
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 27: Russian coverage, and you know, they had their tackle down

1418
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 27: as well in the game going into the game, and

1419
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 27: so I felt like our front was getting after him

1420
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 27: a little bit there and then and in the second

1421
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 27: half he got out a few times and was giving

1422
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 27: us some trouble with his feet.

1423
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 2: So that is around the locker Room presented by Connect Life,

1424
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: your Blood and Organ Donor Network. Let's go back to

1425
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 2: the phones into Mike and Buffalo next. What do you

1426
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 2: got for is Mike?

1427
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 18: Yeah, guys, I love your show. Got a lot to say,

1428
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 18: but I won't go into it.

1429
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 10: All.

1430
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 18: Maybe one thing they can do with the refs miss calls,

1431
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 18: maybe they should get a find. The only thing I

1432
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 18: really want to say is I just don't understand why

1433
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 18: Josh is in shotgun handling that ball off. It's one

1434
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 18: thing that just kills me. I can't even stand it.

1435
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 4: They did that, I think in the first play of overtime,

1436
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 4: was it. That's the one I remember? And I was like, ah,

1437
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 4: I didn't you know. I didn't want to see that either.

1438
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 4: They got nothing. The shotgun runs are hard to stomach too,

1439
01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 4: because of, you know, the way the office was looking

1440
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 4: when it was flat. To say the least, they did

1441
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 4: that Josh and the shotgun handed off to a guy

1442
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 4: standing right next to him, and they start from a

1443
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 4: standing start five yards deep.

1444
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a two hundred and thirty pounds back,

1445
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: like you know Latavious Murray. You'd love to give him

1446
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: a running start at the line of scrimmage. And I

1447
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: will say this, Josh was under center a lot more

1448
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: this week than he was last week against the Jets

1449
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: with Joe Brady now calling this thing, So that was

1450
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: encouraging to see. And they did run out of under

1451
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 2: center some but I agree. I thought watching the shotgun

1452
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 2: runs is tough to stomach because number one, you lose

1453
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: the illusion with a defense to kind of get them

1454
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: to commit to something, especially if you run in play

1455
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 2: action and the sprint draws you know where Josh sprint's

1456
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 2: over to the running back and hands in the ball.

1457
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: Hasn't worked very well either this season. We didn't see

1458
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 2: as much of that yesterday as we did under Dorsey.

1459
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 2: But yeah, the shotgun runs that they're tough to watch

1460
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 2: because I think this could be a much more productive

1461
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 2: rushing attack from under center, giving Latavius Murray some downhill

1462
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: momentum to the line when you got Josh backing away

1463
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: from se.

1464
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 4: And and two. Frustratingly enough, it was a game when

1465
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 4: you were really running the ball well from under center.

1466
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 4: I mean they rush rushed for one hundred and seventy three.

1467
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: Yards against the number one run deep against football.

1468
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 4: The number one defense run defense in football. They hung

1469
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 4: up one hundred and seventy three on them. I mean

1470
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 4: that that tells you how good the Bills offensive line.

1471
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 4: They're running backs, their their team is that that game

1472
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 4: last night was it could would have should have been

1473
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 4: a beatdown of the NFC champions and they walk out

1474
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 4: of it because and I'll tell you this, man, you

1475
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 4: gotta tip your hat to the Eagles. They got some guys,

1476
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 4: no question about it, everywhere, and Jalen Hurts is a

1477
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 4: dude that when the chips are down, he rises, he

1478
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 4: and braces that moment. And there's not everybody, not everybody

1479
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 4: does that.

1480
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 2: They don't panic.

1481
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 4: They do not panic because you know, they were there

1482
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 4: last year, They've been there, this is their mo They

1483
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 4: got a bunch of playoff dudes over there, and they

1484
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 4: didn't flinch in the face of getting slapped. They didn't

1485
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 4: flinch and in fact came back and delivered the final

1486
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 4: blow in the game that won the game. And they

1487
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 4: didn't even they were just that's another game for them.

1488
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,919
Speaker 4: They didn't even flinch. And for the Bills. Unfortunately, it's

1489
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 4: all too common as well.

1490
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: Writers and journalists in Philadelphia are comparing Hurts to Tom Brady.

1491
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: From this standpoint, if you remember Brady early in his career,

1492
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 2: he would throw for one hundred and fifty yards, maybe

1493
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 2: a touchdown, and would rely on a running game in

1494
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 2: strong defense, but he would get the game in the

1495
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: garage and win the football game. For you, Jalen Hurts

1496
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 2: as a young player in his career right now, is

1497
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 2: already an expert at getting the game in the garage

1498
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 2: and winning the football game. He does not He does

1499
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 2: not beat his team with mistakes and errors. Now, he

1500
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: wasn't perfect yesterday. He had a bad exchange on a

1501
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: handoff led to a fumble, recovery by the Bills and

1502
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 2: extra points for them. He did not make it easy

1503
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: at times, but when the Chips were down in crunch time,

1504
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 2: he was at his best in ot and at the

1505
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 2: end of regulation. And that's when a young Tom Brady

1506
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 2: was very good at finishing games and posting w's. He

1507
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 2: does that maybe in a little bit different way, but

1508
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: he does it just the same. Let's go to Chuck

1509
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 2: in Tanawanda next. What do you got for us? Chuck?

1510
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 6: How you doing do it all?

1511
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 4: Right?

1512
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 13: I just want to say that the game, the season

1513
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 13: one one lost yesterday. It was lost when we lost

1514
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 13: to New England, when we lose the Jets Jacksonville, even

1515
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 13: Denver here. And about the coaching, Andy Reid was chased

1516
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 13: out of Philadelphia, so I don't think we should be

1517
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 13: switching any type of coaching. And one more thing is

1518
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 13: that the refereeing, not the calls that were made, the

1519
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 13: calls that weren't made. Interference calls against the Bills should

1520
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 13: have been called, and any of they were never called.

1521
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to.

1522
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: Disagree with you, Chuck. I'm just gonna bring up two

1523
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 2: real quick, Steven, then I'll let you run the third

1524
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 2: down over the middle shot to Sherfield. Slay clearly hits

1525
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 2: sherfield before the ball arrives. That's defensive pass interference. And

1526
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 2: then the one in overtime, the back shoulder throw the

1527
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 2: digs when again slayh is grabbing digs Jersey. Everyone can

1528
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 2: see it. The ref is right there and swallows the whistle.

1529
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 2: There's no call there either. Those are the two most

1530
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: egregious that I saw.

1531
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they and they consistently went against Buffalo. Yeah,

1532
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 4: those are non calls, non calls. Yeah. The play on

1533
01:21:54,000 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 4: Sherfield across the middle, it was just for Bills fans, obvious.

1534
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 4: It was just outside the bang bang play. They let

1535
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 4: that stuff slide. When the defender is almost there on time,

1536
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 4: you know, or they're a hair early when it's a

1537
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 4: bang bang play, they'll let that go. This was a

1538
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 4: little bit less than a bang bang I'm watching. I

1539
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:18,560
Speaker 4: thought the flag was coming in on that.

1540
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 6: I did.

1541
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 4: I thought the flag was coming.

1542
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 6: In on it.

1543
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 4: And I think this too. And your your your your

1544
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 4: question about Andy Reid and Philly and don't forget uh

1545
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 4: you know Philly, Uh you know they won their Super

1546
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 4: Bowl after switching head coaches, you know, with Andy Reid,

1547
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 4: but now Andy re And here's the thing too, are

1548
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 4: you gonna let Andy Reid go and take with him

1549
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 4: every hard, difficult, impossible lesson that he learned being a

1550
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 4: runner up in four a of NFC Championship games, then

1551
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 4: finally going to the Super Bowl and losing the Super Bowl?

1552
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 4: Are you gonna let him take all those hard lessons

1553
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 4: and all that knowledge he's acquired to another team and

1554
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 4: and let them ben fit from all the lessons you

1555
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 4: had to teach him. You got it. And I'll say this,

1556
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 4: I have no doubts that Terry and the guys on

1557
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 4: the coaching staff with Sean are letting him know about Listen,

1558
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 4: we gotta do better here, here, here, and here and

1559
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 4: Terry and I know every owner in the league, Terry

1560
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 4: Pagoula not not excluded from that, has sit down conversations.

1561
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, David Tepper in Carolina had a

1562
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 4: hard one this morning when he released and fired Frank Reich.

1563
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

1564
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 4: They hold these they say, listen, why did you do this?

1565
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 4: What's going on here? And why do we keep losing

1566
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 4: games in this fashion. I don't care if you lose

1567
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 4: a game occasionally in that fashion, or even if every

1568
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 4: loss you take is in that fashion, but it can't

1569
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 4: be half the games. You can't. You can't have four

1570
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 4: out of the six losses come when you lead in

1571
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 4: the last two minutes of the game. Something something system

1572
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 4: systemically wrong here with the way we're we're running the

1573
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 4: end of these games. Something is systemically wrong with our

1574
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 4: philosophy of closing these games out, even the games you win,

1575
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 4: and you see the logic when it works, you see

1576
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 4: kind of the logic of it. Like last year when

1577
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 4: we made a big deal when the green Bay game,

1578
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 4: the Bills thumped green Bay with Aaron Rodgers and those guys,

1579
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 4: and it ended up being a ten point game when

1580
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 4: it was actually an eighteen point game or seventeen point

1581
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 4: game late in the game, and they just kind of

1582
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 4: they kind of took it eased off. They scored late

1583
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 4: and then couldn't get an on side kick bill's and

1584
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 4: recovery games over and all of that stuff. But you

1585
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 4: kind of let these teams hang around and score late,

1586
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 4: get within a score, even the wins or single digit

1587
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 4: wins mostly you know, the games where you really pile on. Yeah,

1588
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 4: everybody kind of forgets about it. But even in those games,

1589
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 4: the Bills sometimes let in late scores. In the Dolphins game,

1590
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 4: Raiders game, Washington game. You go back and look at

1591
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 4: some of the games in recent years, you know, even

1592
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 4: the games where they're up by double digits three scores,

1593
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 4: they kind of let those let it slide at the

1594
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 4: end and they give up yards and big plays and

1595
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 4: touchdowns that are end up being meaningless. So there's something

1596
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 4: systemically wrong, seemingly with the way they close out games.

1597
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 4: And I love the way you say it, Brownie. You

1598
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 4: got to get these games in the garage, and you

1599
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 4: got to keep your foot on the gas deeper into

1600
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 4: the game. And certainly, consecutive penalties in the first half

1601
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 4: that take you out a field goal range, you get

1602
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 4: zero points, you end up punting on a turnover inside

1603
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 4: their twenty five. That's a crusher getting a field goal blocked.

1604
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 4: That's a crusher dropping a touchdown pass that's a crusher.

1605
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 4: So all of that stuff adds up too, and you

1606
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 4: know it's something is systemically wrong, seems to be philosophically

1607
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 4: wrong with the way they're ending these games, the way

1608
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 4: their mindset is, the way their defensive calls go, the

1609
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 4: way their offensive calls go, their chatter on the headsets.

1610
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 4: Something's wrong. And that's up for a guy like Terry

1611
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 4: Pegula or and Brandon Bean to step in and say, hey, wait,

1612
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 4: you know what are we doing here? So you don't

1613
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 4: want your head coach, you don't fire your head coach.

1614
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 4: You know Sean McDermot, after everything he's built here and

1615
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 4: take let him take all these hard lessons to where Carolina.

1616
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 4: You let him go and take over for Frank Reich.

1617
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 4: You swap head coaches, as some fans probably gonna come

1618
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 4: up with. You know, you're gonna let him go to

1619
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 4: San Diego and take these lessons to San Diego and

1620
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 4: learn those and let San Diego or La La read

1621
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 4: the benefits of the lessons he's learned here in Buffalo.

1622
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 4: Now you hold him accountable, You expect him to do

1623
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 4: what he says he does it like self evaluate, try

1624
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 4: and get better all the time, and you and you,

1625
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 4: you let your this team and future teams benefit from

1626
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,799
Speaker 4: the punch of the gut we all got yesterday.

1627
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just been so there's been a lot of

1628
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 2: punches in the gut of laid and I think that

1629
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: that's why it's so difficult. It's like get for Bills

1630
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 2: fans to understandably take and give that.

1631
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 4: Not only that it's the same punch every time. You'll

1632
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 4: see it coming. You're vulnerable to the left hook and

1633
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 4: all the time.

1634
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 2: And it's the pattern that's troubling the Bills fans and

1635
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 2: I totally understand it. Hopefully the bye week self scouting

1636
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 2: will rectify some of those things going forward because they're

1637
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 2: out of a margin. Fererra right now, there is zero

1638
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: wiggle room going forward with five games to play. Got

1639
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 2: to take a break here, more of your phone calls

1640
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 2: when we come back on One Bills Live on a

1641
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 2: Buffalo Football Monday. Stay tuned, all right, welcome back to

1642
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. You're gonna get right back to the

1643
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 2: phones and to Mark in Jersey City.

1644
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 6: Next.

1645
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Mark?

1646
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 19: Remember?

1647
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 22: I mean, my god, you can It's like the perfect

1648
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 22: it was the perfect storm everything that could would did

1649
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 22: just perfect. Miss calls, calls for them, Bill's players missing plays.

1650
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 22: I mean, I don't know how many more bad angles

1651
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 22: are plays Tyler Tyrold Dotson has to run himself out

1652
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 22: of to get seated. For Dorian Williams, the hold on

1653
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 22: Connor McGovern was was as bad a call as I've

1654
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 22: ever seen in my life. He literally let the guy

1655
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 22: fall on his face and he touched him on the back.

1656
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 22: Ye wipes out? Is that how many yard? I was

1657
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 22: like a ten plus yard run for Tyler Johnson. Biggs

1658
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 22: getting knocked to the ground from behind on a late

1659
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 22: hit right in front of a reth after a touchdown

1660
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,799
Speaker 22: that Josh Allens runs in and and the phantom calls.

1661
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,640
Speaker 22: I mean, I can, correl, I can compare it to

1662
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 22: the Sunday night game, the same play, the same exact

1663
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 22: fumble call happened on Keenan Allen.

1664
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: It's brown.

1665
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 22: They didn't even look at it. I mean, and you

1666
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 22: know how the football gods they're cruel. You know they're

1667
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 22: cruel when Justin Tucker misses a forty four yarder indoors

1668
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 22: and Elliott hits that kick in the ring and I'm

1669
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 22: sorry the league is playing with fire here. And I know, Steve,

1670
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 22: you staunchly defend the rest. You say, how difficult it is. Yeah,

1671
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 22: they've just they've already suspended players for this. They've fully

1672
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 22: they sold or sold the gambling, they took the money. Great,

1673
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 22: one of these guys are gonna get caught with their

1674
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 22: hand in the cookie jar. It's going to happen. Human

1675
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 22: nature dictates it. There's too much evidence, there's too many

1676
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 22: miscalls and too many of these games. It's gonna happen.

1677
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope not. You're right, I hope not. But

1678
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 4: the officiating has been and it's and with the current

1679
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 4: state of social media and the amount of scrutiny that

1680
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 4: every call has on it, it's the mistakes are magnified

1681
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 4: and chewed on and all of that.

1682
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 2: So that was the most lopsided officiating I've said in

1683
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 2: the first half of a football game ever.

1684
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 4: That was egregious. It was egregious last night, ten to

1685
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 4: one at halftime. It was egregious. And who knows why

1686
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 4: it is. Maybe maybe the Kelly Greens mix in with

1687
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 4: the grass. They don't see it as well as they should.

1688
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 4: I don't know. You can come up with any Kakamami

1689
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 4: story you want, but it was bad, and uh, they

1690
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 4: do what the officials h like. I always say, the

1691
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 4: officials are held accountable as accountable as they can be.

1692
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 4: But let's face it, what they got to have somebody

1693
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 4: to officiate these games, and if they if a group

1694
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 4: or a crew has a bad night, there's nothing you

1695
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 4: can do about it. You kind of got to live

1696
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 4: with it because they are the be all end all

1697
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 4: of how that game's gonna go. Last night, they had

1698
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 4: a really really bad night.

1699
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 2: And they had big hand in how the game unfolded.

1700
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 4: For Yeah, in the first half, taken through the nature

1701
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,759
Speaker 4: of the calls, the miscalls that were not gone called

1702
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 4: in favor of the Buffalo Bills, and the highly questionable,

1703
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 4: if not absolute, ignoring of calls that should have been

1704
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 4: called on the Eagles that weren't, the touch calls, that

1705
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 4: intentional grounding call I said they could not have. It

1706
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 4: was like a joke. It was like hitting somebody over

1707
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 4: the head with a ball bat and calling the victim

1708
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 4: of that the perpetrator. Is how bad that was? It

1709
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 4: was egregious.

1710
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 2: I still remember a punt to the Eagles, Sir Ran

1711
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 2: Neil is down there first he's got the return man

1712
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 2: dead to rights, two hands, shove in his back right

1713
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 2: in front of the official standing behind the return man.

1714
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 2: No flag, yep, no flat.

1715
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 4: Was Yeah, that was a block in the back that

1716
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 4: they didn't call incrievable. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad,

1717
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 4: and in a game like that that was as was

1718
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 4: as bad as you'll see in the first half of

1719
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 4: the game. And to have your team leading by ten

1720
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 4: with a drop touchdown and a botched possession that should

1721
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 4: have been a touchdown or at least a field goal

1722
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 4: gotten neither. So instead of being up seventeen or at

1723
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 4: least thirteen, you're up ten, and you maintain that after

1724
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 4: you know, the other team comes out scores and you

1725
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 4: get it back again, you answer them, you end up

1726
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 4: losing that game in overtime. It was Yeah, it was Yeah,

1727
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 4: tough to stomach. Bill's fans are in a bad way

1728
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 4: today and for good reason. They got They're justified in

1729
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 4: their outrage, no question about it, and you can point

1730
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 4: it anywhere you want. Yeah, but certainly there's plenty to

1731
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 4: go around.

1732
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:55,719
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and too, Bob in Lancaster,

1733
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 2: what do you got, Bob?

1734
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,600
Speaker 6: You know it's funny you guys talking about the officiating,

1735
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 6: and I hate to lob onto it at.

1736
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 2: All because feel free, Bob, feel free.

1737
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 6: But the reality of it is, you know, the officiating.

1738
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 6: Officiating has more effect on a gain than just the

1739
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 6: penalty yardage. I mean, the big calls are deflating on momentum,

1740
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 6: and more importantly, they really hurt state of mind because

1741
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 6: when somebody is, you know, a pro or an amateur,

1742
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 6: it doesn't really matter when they feel a bit they're

1743
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 6: they're getting calls that are not just bad but unfair

1744
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 6: to them. You know. It affects the way in which

1745
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 6: their momentum and their ability to carry forth and win

1746
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 6: the game. Now, obviously there was other mistakes made, there's

1747
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 6: no question about it. But I think that the officiating

1748
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 6: in this game. My question, and I instead of just

1749
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 6: making a statement, is isn't there any kind of oversight

1750
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 6: in the Association of Officials that reviews these kinds of games?

1751
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 6: And if there are, what kind of action is taken

1752
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 6: when there's so many big calls in one game. I'm

1753
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 6: not going to try to talk about a conspiracy, but

1754
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 6: something if it happens with the Bills making mistakes like

1755
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 6: you know, at the end of the game with a miscatch,

1756
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 6: I guarantee you there's going to be an analysis by

1757
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 6: the team as to what they need to do to

1758
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 6: move forward. Do they do the same thing with officiating, Yeah, they.

1759
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 4: Do, but they do essentially they chew up every call,

1760
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 4: and the league calls, the officials, tells the officials, they

1761
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 4: call the teams.

1762
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 2: The teams bring the team's file grievances for calls that

1763
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,520
Speaker 2: they have an issue with that they felt were officiated

1764
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 2: improperly that early in every week, and every crew sees it,

1765
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 2: here's it reads it and is graded on it, and

1766
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 2: is graded on it. So and you say, what are

1767
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 2: the repercussions. Unfortunately, the repercussions really don't come until we

1768
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 2: get to the postseason. But the officials that have the

1769
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 2: worst grades at the end of the regular season are

1770
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 2: not put on playoff crews. So if your team is

1771
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:15,599
Speaker 2: fortunate enough to get to the playoffs, hopefully they benefit

1772
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 2: by getting the best crews assigned to their games. As

1773
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 2: far as the regular season goes, you get stuck with

1774
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 2: what you get stuck with Alan Eck a couple of

1775
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 2: weeks ago, first year head official, he was awful here

1776
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 2: for the home game for the Bills. I mean they

1777
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 2: couldn't even get the down markers right for about five minutes.

1778
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 4: There was an absolutely they even joke they even ghosted

1779
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 4: the Bills an entire down. Yeah. So yeah, it's been

1780
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 4: awful and the Bills have been of course, you notice

1781
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 4: it when it's your team getting right.

1782
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 2: But everybody's getting the shaft.

1783
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 4: Everybody's complaining about the same things the Bills fans are

1784
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 4: today as well.

1785
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 2: So got to take a break here though. We got

1786
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 2: our number three coming your way. But we will be

1787
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 2: joined to begin our number three by Eric Wood, my

1788
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 2: broadcast partner on the Bills Radio Network. Will get his

1789
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:02,560
Speaker 2: thoughts on that gut wrenching loss in overtime to the

1790
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 2: Eagles when we return here on One Bill's Live presented

1791
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 2: by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1792
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kaleida Health.

1793
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number three on a

1794
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 2: Buffalo football Monday, and that means we're joined by my

1795
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 2: broadcast partner on the Bill's Radio network, radio color analyst,

1796
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,799
Speaker 2: former Bill Center and host of the Center on Buffalo podcast.

1797
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 2: It is Eric Wood joining us here as he does

1798
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 2: every Monday. Eric glad to see you got back okay

1799
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 2: from the game last night. Let's begin first with the

1800
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 2: first half of this football game. We'll save the officiating

1801
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 2: for a minute here, but the Eagles game plan struck

1802
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 2: me as a very peculiar one. In the first half.

1803
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 2: They tried to put the game on Jalen Hurt's arm

1804
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 2: more than on their ground game against a Bill's run

1805
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 2: defense that is given up four and a half yards

1806
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 2: of carry. The running backs only carry its seven times

1807
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 2: in the first half for the Eagles, but for forty

1808
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,559
Speaker 2: seven yards. I mean, it's over six yards of pop,

1809
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 2: and yet they don't run it more in the first half.

1810
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 2: How surprised were you by that approach? First and foremost,

1811
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 2: I was surprised by it.

1812
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:46,799
Speaker 26: I mentioned it early in the game on the broadcast,

1813
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 26: Chris when I said, when Jalen Hurts went up to

1814
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 26: the line of scrimmage the Bills had a six man box,

1815
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 26: I just assumed he was checking to a pass. Now,

1816
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 26: he was using R and L words oftentimes that can

1817
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 26: mean which way he's setting the protection. But I just

1818
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 26: assumed he'd be getting to a run call there versus

1819
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 26: some of those looks. It wasn't like the Bills were

1820
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 26: necessarily loading up the box consistently where he would be

1821
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 26: forced to throw it, and they had more advantageous matchups outside,

1822
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 26: and the pass rush was daunting on this Eagles offensive

1823
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,680
Speaker 26: line in the first half. Leonard Floyd in particular. We

1824
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 26: mentioned early on that Lane Johnson being out of the

1825
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 26: game could be a big factor in this game. I

1826
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 26: read online. I didn't see this confirm, but the point

1827
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,839
Speaker 26: spread moved a half point. Generally, when an offensive lineman's

1828
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 26: out for a game, a point spread doesn't move, but

1829
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:34,799
Speaker 26: it moved a half point when Lane Johnson was declared

1830
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 26: out and Leonard Floyd from the get go was giving

1831
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 26: Jack Driscoll fits and he was constantly in the face

1832
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 26: of Jail. It hurts, essentially, Leonard Floyd and the defensive

1833
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 26: line caused that first three and out of the game.

1834
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,719
Speaker 26: And when we talked about second half adjustments and assuming

1835
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 26: that's what we're getting to and how it changes the

1836
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 26: second half, I mentioned Chris I said, the Bills just

1837
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 26: need to continue to stop the run. They have a

1838
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 26: ten point lead, but this is an Eagles team that

1839
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 26: is going to get back to that ground game. They're

1840
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 26: going to send that locker room at halftime and say hey,

1841
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 26: let's get to the ground game. And the chunk runs happened,

1842
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,639
Speaker 26: and because of that, it opened up some passing lanes

1843
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 26: on that second level of the defense especially.

1844
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll say this too, that the Eagles did.

1845
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,640
Speaker 4: Their offensive line is full of guys. But you got

1846
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 4: to know too, that Bill's offensive line really played well

1847
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 4: against an elite front. I thought they played maybe as

1848
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 4: good a game as they've played as anybody's played against

1849
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 4: the Eagles this year. And it really showed where the

1850
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 4: strength of this club lies right now. It's in the front.

1851
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 4: Those front five guys up front. They really played well

1852
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 4: against an elite defensive front. Josh Allen being who he is,

1853
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 4: helped him a little bit, no question. But they ran

1854
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 4: the ball for a buck seventy three against the number

1855
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 4: one rushing team and rush defense in the league. I mean,

1856
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 4: what are we talking about here, right? I mean this

1857
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 4: is this is a team in Buffalo that's got to

1858
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 4: be looking at itself in the mirror at six and

1859
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 4: six going what happened?

1860
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 26: They truly are, because this offensive line is playing well.

1861
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 26: And you know Dion Dawkins, I've been bragging on him

1862
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 26: all year and actually texted with him a little bit

1863
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 26: this morning because the way that he pulls.

1864
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 20: Especially across the formation, that is rare in football.

1865
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 26: We saw him out in front of a couple of

1866
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 26: plays yesterday on toss cracks where he's going from his

1867
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 26: left tackle position and pulling out left.

1868
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,879
Speaker 20: But the way he goes back right across the formation

1869
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 20: is unbelievable to me.

1870
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 26: It just doesn't happen very often, and it allows the

1871
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 26: other guys in the offensive line to have easier blocks

1872
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 26: because because it's a little better angles when that guard

1873
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 26: is blocking back. Just forever, when you ran trap plays,

1874
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 26: encounters and power type plays, gap schemes, it's always been

1875
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 26: the guard pulling.

1876
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 20: Occasionally you'll pull the center well.

1877
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 26: Dion so athletic that they can pull him all the

1878
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 26: way across the formation, and Spencer Brown as well, but

1879
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 26: they really like running it to the right and getting

1880
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:50,679
Speaker 26: Dion pulling. I thought that Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis

1881
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 26: at times both had nice games. Osiris Towrens has beat

1882
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 26: a couple times. That's to be expected you have a

1883
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 26: rookie guard against a couple of really talented players inside.

1884
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 26: But for the most part, the pass protection was great. Yesterday,

1885
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 26: and even at times when Josh Allen was taken off

1886
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 26: and running on the non design quarterback runs, it wasn't

1887
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 26: necessarily because of immedia pressure. Oftentimes it would be him

1888
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 26: seeing Manda man defense understanding I could pick this up

1889
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 26: with my legs, and then gosh, you get Josh Allen

1890
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 26: in space with defenders that could potentially slip because of

1891
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 26: the turf conditions. He was making guys missing space all night.

1892
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 2: Some of the sharpest critics of the Bills have targeted

1893
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 2: the defense's inability to get a stop at the end

1894
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 2: of the football game. We know what happened at the

1895
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 2: end of regulation. In my estimation, the Bills get exactly

1896
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 2: what they want. They get them in a long down

1897
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:44,640
Speaker 2: and distant situation. They get to a third and seventeen

1898
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:49,639
Speaker 2: and they actually make an adjustment off a time out,

1899
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 2: and instead of having Bernard pulled out of the middle

1900
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 2: of the field, opening themselves up to a Jalen Hurtz draw,

1901
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 2: they just bump everybody out a spot. Benford goes out

1902
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 2: out wide with the back, Taron Johnson goes from the

1903
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 2: slot to the outside receiver, and Bernard just steps over

1904
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 2: a couple of spots and they force an incomplete pass

1905
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 2: in what looked like matchup zone. To me, you got

1906
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 2: what you wanted, You got the incomplete and now they

1907
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 2: have to come on for a fifty nine yard field

1908
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,640
Speaker 2: goal and a driving rainstorm on a wet field, and

1909
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 2: then Jake Elliott makes the play of the game. I

1910
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 2: don't know what are your thoughts on how the last

1911
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 2: two drives by the Eagles unfolded. I know people are

1912
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 2: desperate to assign blame in a game that ends like this,

1913
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 2: but in reviewing it myself, I don't have a lot

1914
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 2: of issues with a the play calling. I think even

1915
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,679
Speaker 2: the Bills made a couple of key plays. Dodson punches

1916
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 2: it out for the incomplete pass ed Oliver makes a

1917
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 2: giant play on a draw by Hertz with the entire

1918
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 2: middle of the field open. It's just that the Eagles

1919
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 2: seem to make a couple of more plays than the

1920
01:42:58,439 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 2: Bills did.

1921
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 20: Yeah, they did.

1922
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 26: And it's easy to look back and say that the

1923
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 26: Bill should have been more aggressive defensively, not giving up

1924
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 26: maybe some easy yards early and on early on in

1925
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 26: those drives, maybe with a little too much cushion on

1926
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 26: the outside. It's always easy to look back and say

1927
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 26: that now, and you know, to me, that guy makes

1928
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 26: a fifty nine yard or in the rain, I mean

1929
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 26: just seemed highly unlikely that that was going to happen,

1930
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 26: but it did. It tied the game up, and then

1931
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 26: you can look back at the decision making and say, man,

1932
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 26: Sean really should have kept that second time out, given

1933
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 26: them a chance. And yes, I mean it's very easy

1934
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 26: to sit here and say, you know, go look for

1935
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 26: the points. And I've seen the reviews and the replays

1936
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 26: of the Detroit game Thanksgiving last year where with just

1937
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 26: over twenty seconds they were able to get down the

1938
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 26: field and hit that game winning field goal, And so

1939
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 26: it's easy to say that now. And you know, moving forward,

1940
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 26: does Sean get more aggressive at the end of games.

1941
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 26: I'd imagine so, because you know, Sean mcdermot's philosophy all

1942
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 26: along has been you either win or you learn, and

1943
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 26: I assume what he's learning about his team is that

1944
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 26: an instance is like that it's gonna be better off

1945
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 26: that I be aggressive. Now, Sean was super aggressive with

1946
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 26: a cover zero call at the end that Jalen Hurts

1947
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 26: goes in for a QB draw touchdown, and I read

1948
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 26: afterwards where their left tackle was saying that all once

1949
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 26: we saw that, look, we knew it was gonna be

1950
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 26: a touchdown. Well, you know what, early in the game,

1951
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 26: the Bills did the same thing to the Eagles and

1952
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 26: hit them with a quarterback draw that ends up being

1953
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 26: a walk in. So it's always easy to say that

1954
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,759
Speaker 26: afterwards it was a well time play.

1955
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 20: Call by the Eagles.

1956
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 26: And so, yeah, I mean this, it looks like now

1957
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:34,719
Speaker 26: that the Bills are gonna have to be a little

1958
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 26: more aggressive. But at times when Sean and this team

1959
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 26: has been aggressive, think back to the cover zero blitz

1960
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 26: against Denver at the end. Then you give up a

1961
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 26: big play down the field, and so man's it's tough.

1962
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:49,719
Speaker 26: It's hard to say tough luck because in the NFL

1963
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 26: you create your own luck oftentimes. But to drill that

1964
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 26: fifty nine yard er at the end to send it

1965
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 26: to ot you have a miscommunication between Gabe and Josh

1966
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 26: or else, that game's over right there as well, after

1967
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 26: the Eagles cover zero blitched you.

1968
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the thing about I noticed, and when I

1969
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 4: first came on today, I kind of went off on

1970
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 4: a little rant right out of the gate about this team,

1971
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 4: this roster, the Brandon Bean Sean McDermott have assembled, and

1972
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 4: the talent they have, and the way they coach, the

1973
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 4: way they play with Josh at quarterback, their margin of

1974
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 4: error in this Eagles camp, in this Eagles game against

1975
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 4: the defending NFC champs, who are now what nine to one,

1976
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 4: ten and one, ten and one, the best team in

1977
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 4: the league by far, with the best record anyway, the

1978
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,559
Speaker 4: Bill's margin of error against that team was as wide

1979
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:39,719
Speaker 4: as it could possibly be. They drop a touchdown pass

1980
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 4: on the opening drive they have, They get a turnover

1981
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 4: on a drive, and then they end up getting no

1982
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 4: points out of it. They get an egregious grounding penalty

1983
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 4: on Josh, they get a missed or ignored pass interference

1984
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 4: on a third down conversion. They're converting third and long,

1985
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 4: time after time after time after time. They get this

1986
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 4: team down by ten after going down eight penalties, nine

1987
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 4: to one, ten to one in the first half. It

1988
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 4: could not have gone worse, and they got a ten

1989
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 4: point lead with a drop touchdown, and they end up

1990
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 4: losing it the way they did in overtime. This team

1991
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 4: is so stacked and so talented, playing such a high level,

1992
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 4: and they can't get out of their own way. I mean,

1993
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 4: they I know, twelve Ye're exactly right, twelve men on

1994
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 4: the field. I mean, and then this thing last night,

1995
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 4: It's one thing after another. What is the systemic remedy.

1996
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 16: For that?

1997
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 20: I wish I knew. I wish I knew.

1998
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,639
Speaker 26: And you know, as I look back at that game, honestly, Steve,

1999
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 26: I was thinking the same thing, and I was, you know,

2000
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:53,560
Speaker 26: the Bills give up thirty points after halftime, and you

2001
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 26: know that's an injury depleted defense, and you have had

2002
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,560
Speaker 26: Oliver playing a majority of the snaps defensively, and he

2003
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 26: still makes good play at the end.

2004
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 20: So you could say, hey, these guys were too war

2005
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:03,639
Speaker 20: out at the end of the game.

2006
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 26: You're not getting enough from some guys, and you know

2007
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 26: von Miller's coming off injury and you're not getting a

2008
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 26: production on the stat sheet from him.

2009
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 20: And then you know that stretches a guy like.

2010
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 26: Leonard Floyd to play maybe more then you'd like him

2011
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 26: too early on and then late in the game, maybe

2012
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 26: he doesn't have that juice to get to the pass

2013
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 26: in the second half.

2014
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 20: I don't know.

2015
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 26: Exactly the answer, other than the fact that this team

2016
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 26: sitting at six and six is a shame because they

2017
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 26: have built a great roster, and they've made enough mistakes

2018
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 26: in games this year.

2019
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 20: Some of the times it's been turnovers. Yesterday they only

2020
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 20: have one turnover, but you.

2021
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 26: Have two missed field goals that wipe out six points,

2022
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 26: a number of calls that could have gone other directions.

2023
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 26: I mean, you talk about the play where Dotson knocks

2024
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 26: it out at the end. Two hours later, I'm watching

2025
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:50,600
Speaker 26: Sunday Night football at home, and that call goes the

2026
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:54,680
Speaker 26: exact opposite way in a very similar fashion. And so

2027
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 26: you know, you have all these fifty to fifty plays

2028
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 26: throughout the season that essentially gone against you. You're sitting

2029
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 26: here at a six and six record, and as I

2030
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,640
Speaker 26: put on Twitter or x whatever you call now that

2031
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 26: the Bills need to get on a roll.

2032
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 20: I mean, that's the only thing you can do.

2033
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 26: And everyone thinks I'm crazy, but I don't think it's

2034
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 26: unrealistic to say the Bills win four out of the

2035
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 26: next five or maybe even five of their next five

2036
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 26: games and get into the playoffs as the hottest team

2037
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 26: in the league. I think back to twenty twenty one,

2038
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 26: the Tampa Bay loss, and I know it's always easy

2039
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 26: to go back and cherry picked certain moments and say

2040
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 26: this is similar. We could do the same thing again,

2041
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 26: But the Bills were sitting at seven and six at

2042
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:33,560
Speaker 26: that point when they lose at Tampa and they go

2043
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 26: on a roll and you're thirteen seconds away from being

2044
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 26: the Super Bowl favorite in the AFC Championship game.

2045
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that might be hard for some fans

2046
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 2: to see. I will say that two games under Joe

2047
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 2: Brady has done an awful lot to revitalize this offense.

2048
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 2: It actually looks like the offense we had become accustomed

2049
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 2: to seeing over the better part of the last three seasons.

2050
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 2: Knowing that, how do you kind of look at the

2051
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 2: slate that lies in front of Buffalo going forward? Because

2052
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 2: while it is true that they're playing high caliber opponents

2053
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:15,599
Speaker 2: with very good defenses in their next two games alone, Eric,

2054
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, who I think right now as I look

2055
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 2: at it, are the number four defense in football, third

2056
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 2: in points allowed, followed by Dallas the number three defense

2057
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 2: in football and fourth in points allowed. And both of

2058
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,600
Speaker 2: those teams can get after your quarterback as good as

2059
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 2: the offense is playing, are you confident that they can

2060
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 2: put points up against the caliber of defenses they will

2061
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 2: be facing the next one on the road after the bye.

2062
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 20: Yeah, I truly do.

2063
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 26: I think this offense can keep rolling. I think they're

2064
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 26: finding different answers. James Cook is coming into his own

2065
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 26: in the backfield. You know, in my opinion, one of

2066
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 26: the better running backs in the league right now, especially

2067
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 26: when you consider what he can do out of the

2068
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 26: backfield catch the ball. And then you have the emergence

2069
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 26: of kin Cage shakh here against certain matchups, and you

2070
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 26: know we talked about you know, Gave Davis has no

2071
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 26: catches last week. Well, you didn't do a whole lot

2072
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 26: against the Jets the first time, but against certain matchups,

2073
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 26: or maybe it's just when Nance and Romo get around,

2074
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,679
Speaker 26: even though he was there for the Nance and Romo

2075
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:21,720
Speaker 26: over there also for the Jets game two weeks ago.

2076
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 26: But you know, you have a number of weapons offensively

2077
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 26: that I just feel like they can beat in so

2078
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 26: many different ways. And now that Josh is being more

2079
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 26: aggressive with his legs as well, this is a dangerous

2080
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 26: offense that can build you a lead in any game.

2081
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,679
Speaker 26: And I think what we talked about for a number

2082
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 26: of weeks, ever since the Jacksonville game, really when we

2083
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 26: had the injuries added on top of the Tradevius White

2084
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:46,560
Speaker 26: injury to Milano and to Daikwan Jones, and then the

2085
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 26: injuries just kept coming. We said, look, this is a

2086
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 26: team that's going to have to score a bunch of

2087
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 26: points and likely play with the lead. Now they did yesterday,

2088
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 26: but the Eagles were able to stay tight enough that

2089
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 26: they could keep the ball on the ground as well

2090
01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:00,799
Speaker 26: play two dimensional football till the end against the Spills defense.

2091
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,560
Speaker 26: But you know, the recipe is what it is, and

2092
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:05,639
Speaker 26: it's not a whole lot different from a few weeks

2093
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 26: ago when we said, look, the Bills are gonna have

2094
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:09,560
Speaker 26: to score points. You have that many injuries to the

2095
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,640
Speaker 26: defensive side of the football, and your offense, for the

2096
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 26: most part, is completely healthy. So that side of the

2097
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 26: football is going to have to carry the load. Now

2098
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 26: it's got to be all three phases contributing though. I

2099
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 26: mean yesterday you have two special teams penalties that back

2100
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 26: you up deep, and you have two miss field goals.

2101
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 26: You know, with this many injuries on the defense side

2102
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 26: of the football especially, you can't have a stinker from

2103
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 26: your special teams group.

2104
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 4: Right, and then yeah, the two miss field goals obviously

2105
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 4: in a three point overtime loss or you know, gut

2106
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 4: punches and the turnovers, and they were on the plus

2107
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 4: side of the turnover margin this last game. The tipped

2108
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 4: interception was huge, and then they missed communication in the

2109
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:52,600
Speaker 4: backfield where Jalen Hurtson couldn't get it, couldn't get it

2110
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 4: with the running back. Huge huge moments in the game

2111
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 4: that really gave the Bills a leg up even further

2112
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 4: where they could have, you know, could have been going

2113
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 4: into the you think about it, the missed field goal,

2114
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 4: of the block field goal, the punt instead of a

2115
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:12,719
Speaker 4: field goal there. I mean, you're looking at a twenty

2116
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 4: point game at halftime if nothing else changes, And that

2117
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 4: was kind of where the Bills are. That's where the

2118
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 4: Bills are sitting right now now. They certainly I don't

2119
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 4: even feel it doesn't even feel like it was hitting

2120
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 4: on all cylinders with a drop touchdown pass it if

2121
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 4: you know, the first drive of the game, if James

2122
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 4: Cook just pulls that in and goes it's seven to nothing,

2123
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 4: and then the Eagles come back and have to answer,

2124
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:40,719
Speaker 4: I mean, goodness, gracious, this is a team that certainly,

2125
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:44,559
Speaker 4: even now at six and six, ain't nobody on their

2126
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 4: schedule looking forward to playing this crew and with no, you're.

2127
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 26: Exactly you're exactly right, And you know, you look at

2128
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 26: a few of the misses they had yesterday. I mean,

2129
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 26: obviously the Cook one early. And the problem with the

2130
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 26: Cook one is not that he dropped the football. It

2131
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 26: was that they to look and they dialed up a

2132
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 26: play specifically for that look. And then you're likely not

2133
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:08,000
Speaker 26: going to get that one again. You know you're not

2134
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 26: gonna get Moro matched up on Cook on a wheel

2135
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:12,640
Speaker 26: route man de man defense with the safety in the

2136
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 26: middle of the field where he can't get over there

2137
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:14,599
Speaker 26: in time.

2138
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 4: And so you know that one hurt.

2139
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 26: The Kincaid one was perfectly mirrored up off of a

2140
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 26: play from last week against the Jets where Kincaid went

2141
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 26: across the field, but instead of Kincaid going across the field,

2142
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:28,840
Speaker 26: he bends it back out and Josh just misses him.

2143
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 26: I thought, I mean, Josh let him up the field.

2144
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,679
Speaker 26: I don't know if Kinkaid thought he was gonna break

2145
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 26: it off flatter. And then you have the Gabe Davis

2146
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:39,640
Speaker 26: won or else you have three more monster plays one

2147
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 26: and there wasn't like those drives all ended in points

2148
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 26: either I.

2149
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:44,679
Speaker 4: Mean the other one as well, plays to be made.

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Speaker 4: There's another one as well. Eric on the touchdown where

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Speaker 4: he hit he was gonna hit Sherfield on this on

2152
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 4: the narrow slant at right at the goal line, and

2153
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:57,759
Speaker 4: Sherfield went outside the corner instead of outside the safety

2154
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 4: instead of inside and the ball was right there. To

2155
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 4: do is just cross the guy's face. There wasn't even

2156
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:04,800
Speaker 4: any contact and the ball was gonna be right in

2157
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 4: his chest. That's a touchdown that got taken away. There

2158
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 4: was also a quick screen pass. Josh takes the snap,

2159
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 4: swings it out. There's two guys to the left, he throws.

2160
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Speaker 4: Both of them go up to.

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Speaker 2: The ball blocking.

2162
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 4: They're both blocking. Neither one of them is looking for

2163
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 4: the football. To me, that's that's in their preparation. And

2164
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 4: while those are plays that are kind of getting lost

2165
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 4: in the wash, that's the kind of miscommunication and missed

2166
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 4: preparation that is indicative of why you lose games like this.

2167
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Speaker 4: They've got to be ready for plays like that, and

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Speaker 4: you've got when you're called to cross the face of

2169
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 4: the safety, you got to cross the face of the safety,

2170
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Speaker 4: whether it's hard or not. He's got to try and

2171
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 4: costs you all kinds of stuff as the ripple effects

2172
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Speaker 4: go on and on. When you look about misplays like that.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, you're exactly right, And especially in a game against

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Speaker 26: the Eagles. If this happens last week against the Jets,

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Speaker 26: it's not as big of a deal. You're not playing

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01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 26: against it offense that can keep pace with you. But

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Speaker 26: you just can't miss those little things. And those little

2178
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 26: things are the reason that the Bills are sitting at

2179
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 26: six and six right now. And man, I just I

2180
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 26: hope and I do have hopes that they can get

2181
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Speaker 26: on a roll at this point, because when you look

2182
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 26: back at this season, you're gonna you're gonna think back

2183
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 26: at missed opportunities and and you're really gonna be upset

2184
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 26: with the way some of these games shook out at

2185
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 26: the end of games, and you, you know, really looking

2186
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 26: back to the Jets, Patriots and Broncos games, and then.

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01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 20: Really, you should have won this one too. You feel

2188
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 20: like you should.

2189
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Speaker 26: But you get those three and you're you're still sitting

2190
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 26: in a good spot heading into the bye, but you

2191
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 26: drop those and now your margin of air for the

2192
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 26: rest of the season is very slim. It's not over,

2193
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 26: but it becomes very slim because of that. And yes,

2194
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 26: the you know I said before the season, I thought

2195
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 26: this was the most talented Bills team that Brandon Bean

2196
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 26: had built, and the injuries on defense affect that dramatically.

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01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 26: I mean, we could talk about all the stars. We

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01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 26: even have Kyri Eulam out and Dan Jackson miss his

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01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 26: last year. I mean, there's just a number of guys

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01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 26: that have suffered injuries this year on the defensive side

2201
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Speaker 26: of the football. And you still I mean, for six quarters,

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Speaker 26: you didn't give up a third down conversion. They didn't

2203
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 26: give up a third down conversion to the Eagles in

2204
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 26: the entire first half. They did give up a fourth

2205
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 26: down conversion. I understand after one of those, but man,

2206
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 26: it's those missed opportunities, and when you miss those opportunities,

2207
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 26: everything compounds. You're playing at someone else's house and you

2208
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 26: have the chance to put the crowd away early too,

2209
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 26: and that crowd was dead. I mean, Philadelphia's got a

2210
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 26: great fan based natural home field advantage based upon the

2211
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 26: noise in that stadium, but they had.

2212
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Speaker 20: The crowd out of the game.

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01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 26: Josh was just operating on a normal snap count for

2214
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 26: a majority of those kind of second and third quarters.

2215
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 26: But you let them get rolling and you miss on

2216
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 26: a few of those plays that we just mentioned, and

2217
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 26: then that crowd gets back into it, it becomes a

2218
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 26: lot more difficult to operate offensively.

2219
01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 2: Eric, thanks for the time. Is always enjoy your bye

2220
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,040
Speaker 2: week with your family. We'll catch up with you a

2221
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 2: couple of weeks.

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Speaker 20: Okay, it sounds good you two guys.

2223
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 2: All right. That's Eric Wood joining us as he does

2224
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 2: every Monday after Bill's games, Bill's color analyst on the

2225
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 2: Bills Radio Network, also former Bill Center and host of

2226
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 2: the Centered on Buffalo podcast. And we're gonna squeeze in

2227
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 2: a couple of phone calls here for people that have

2228
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 2: been waiting patiently. We're going to go to Mark and

2229
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 2: West Seneca here. What do you got for us?

2230
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 22: Mark?

2231
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 28: Hey, guys, good afternoon. It's bummed out like everybody. But

2232
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 28: I just wanted to comment on the refereeing like everybody else,

2233
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 28: and your previous caller Unfortunately, I who highly agree with him,

2234
01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 28: the gentleman that said somebody's gonna get caught with their

2235
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 28: hand in the cookie jar. It's inevitable. There's just too

2236
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 28: much money flying around on these games because of gambling

2237
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 28: now and you've got these referees who and I'm not

2238
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:54,160
Speaker 28: making excuses for him, don't get me wrong, who are

2239
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 28: out there being probably verbally abused by everybody around him, players, coaches, fans,

2240
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Speaker 28: and all these players and coaches are making millions and

2241
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 28: millions of dollars and they're out there doing the best

2242
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 28: they can. But I put this solely. The refereeing was

2243
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 28: utterly incompetent yesterday, and it goes on around the league

2244
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 28: to varying degrees in every single game. And I put

2245
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 28: this squarely on the shoulders of the owners. They have

2246
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:30,000
Speaker 28: done nothing. I've been watching football since nineteen sixty five

2247
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:34,560
Speaker 28: and it never changes. It's the same thing over and over.

2248
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 28: The only things they do is to make the rules

2249
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 28: more convoluted and more tough for the referees to even

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01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 28: make calls. And I will give them that, but they

2251
01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 28: have done absolutely nothing tangible to increase the skill level,

2252
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 28: the intelligence level, the cohesiveness of these crews working together.

2253
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 28: There's no consistency see.

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01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 11: Crew to crew to crew.

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Speaker 28: I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous. And the only conclusion

2256
01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:09,400
Speaker 28: I can come to is this is the way that

2257
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 28: the owners want it, for whatever their reasons. Are, and

2258
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 28: there's a lot of reasons we can get into right

2259
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:19,640
Speaker 28: or wrong. But until the owners decide we need to

2260
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 28: make a drastic change on how we train these guys

2261
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 28: and what they do, nothing's going to change. So as

2262
01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:29,280
Speaker 28: a fan, you got one or two choices except the

2263
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 28: way it is and watch the games and root your

2264
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 28: team on or stop watching. So that's just how I feel.

2265
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 28: Thanks guys, Yeah, thanks for.

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Speaker 2: That, Mark. I would agree with you. The approach that

2267
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 2: I take nowadays going into these games is I am

2268
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 2: expecting bad calls to be made. I fully prepare myself

2269
01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:50,720
Speaker 2: for bad calls to be made or calls to not

2270
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 2: be made at all that should be and it gives

2271
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 2: me a longer, a longer stretch of patients in games.

2272
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:02,400
Speaker 2: But I was in a bad place midway through the

2273
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 2: second quarter there with the officiating that we saw in

2274
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:09,760
Speaker 2: that game yesterday, not only because the officiating was poor,

2275
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 2: but also because of the degree to which it was lopsided.

2276
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 2: If you're a bad officiating crew, at least make it

2277
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 2: somewhat even, at least give the illusion that it is

2278
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 2: being called poorly for both teams. I mean, if you're

2279
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 2: going to be a bad crew at least do that

2280
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 2: be bad for both teams? Yes, and they couldn't even

2281
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 2: do that. So it's one thing to be a bad

2282
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 2: crew on the whole. And John Hockuley's crew over officiates

2283
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:42,240
Speaker 2: routinely every single week. They throw flags like they're handing

2284
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:46,640
Speaker 2: out candy on Halloween. But to do it in such

2285
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 2: a lopsided fashion ten to one, I've never seen it

2286
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:53,440
Speaker 2: in my twenty five plus years of covering the National

2287
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:56,160
Speaker 2: Football League. It is stunning to me to see it

2288
02:00:56,280 --> 02:01:01,280
Speaker 2: be that lopsided. And again, did it determine the outcome

2289
02:01:01,320 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 2: of the game. I don't know if it was the

2290
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:06,680
Speaker 2: ultimate determining factor in the game, but it was a

2291
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 2: factor because to Steve's point, if the Bills are up

2292
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 2: seventeen or twenty at halftime, the Eagles aren't coming out

2293
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:15,880
Speaker 2: and running the football in the second half, there aren't

2294
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:18,320
Speaker 2: enough possessions left to gobble up that much of the

2295
02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 2: clock running the football. They have to go to the air,

2296
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 2: where they could do absolutely nothing in that game yesterday.

2297
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:27,680
Speaker 2: So it does change the complexion and probably the outcome

2298
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:30,720
Speaker 2: of the game to some degree in some form or fashion.

2299
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:32,360
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, but more of

2300
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 2: your phone calls. When we come back here on a

2301
02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 2: Buffalo Football Monday, One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

2302
02:01:36,760 --> 02:01:53,560
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. You're right back to the phones

2303
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 2: here on a Buffalo Football Monday. Because we've got a

2304
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:57,440
Speaker 2: lot of people waiting here. I want to get to

2305
02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 2: the person that's been waiting the longest, and that is

2306
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:03,600
Speaker 2: and Tonawanda. What do you got for a sean that was.

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Speaker 25: Going Guys, thanks for trying to cheer us up a

2308
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 25: little bit today.

2309
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 22: As much as you can.

2310
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:14,440
Speaker 25: Anyways, So this team is just I mean, it reminds

2311
02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 25: me of a to bring a little positivity to this.

2312
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:20,320
Speaker 17: It kind of reminds me of a better version of.

2313
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:24,120
Speaker 25: The twenty twenty one team going into Week fourteen. As

2314
02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:26,240
Speaker 25: Eric said, he kind of touched on everything I wanted

2315
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:29,880
Speaker 25: to talk about. But going into week fourteen, we're sitting

2316
02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:32,480
Speaker 25: at seven and six. We just got our butts handed

2317
02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 25: to us by the Colts forty five to whatever we got.

2318
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 25: We had that bad loss to Tampa. We are statistically

2319
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:46,480
Speaker 25: a better offense. We have a much better line, way,

2320
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:50,320
Speaker 25: better run run game. Josh is playing at elite levels

2321
02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 25: now with Brady Brady calling the plays, the defense is

2322
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:57,080
Speaker 25: only giving up one and a half points per game,

2323
02:02:57,840 --> 02:03:01,080
Speaker 25: more than the twenty twenty one number one ranked defense.

2324
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:05,040
Speaker 25: The biggest issue, and this was an issue in twenty

2325
02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:08,080
Speaker 25: twenty one, is we're playing undisciplined. We have the most

2326
02:03:08,160 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 25: penalties in the league.

2327
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:11,680
Speaker 17: Again, and.

2328
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:17,080
Speaker 25: Not to not to you know, bring luck into this,

2329
02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:19,880
Speaker 25: but a lot of it's luck. I mean, Josh is

2330
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:23,560
Speaker 25: leading the league in interceptions and he's tied for fifth

2331
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:28,560
Speaker 25: and turnover worthy plays, you know, fifth best. So I

2332
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 25: mean it's it's not all on him. It's not his

2333
02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:35,920
Speaker 25: decision making. A lot of we're four bad kip balls

2334
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:38,520
Speaker 25: away from you know, having two or three more wins

2335
02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 25: in our pocket. I just I think statistically, anyways, December,

2336
02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:47,760
Speaker 25: end of November, this is when our team goes on

2337
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 25: a run. If we go on a tear like we

2338
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:53,280
Speaker 25: always do under McDermott, we have a good shot of

2339
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:56,440
Speaker 25: making the playoffs. We do that if we only drop

2340
02:03:56,520 --> 02:04:00,160
Speaker 25: one game or went out. I think this team as

2341
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:01,960
Speaker 25: a shot at making the Super Bowl.

2342
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I appreciate the optimism, Sean, I do. Really.

2343
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:09,720
Speaker 2: I think what a lot of Bills fans have a

2344
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:12,800
Speaker 2: difficult time with is while I think they do want

2345
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:15,960
Speaker 2: to believe in the potential of this football team, the

2346
02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:20,120
Speaker 2: evidence makes it very hard to do that. Yesterday was

2347
02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 2: a microcosm of what this season has been, which has

2348
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 2: been a series of missed opportunities and failed expectations. The

2349
02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:33,600
Speaker 2: team has found it very difficult to live up to

2350
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:37,360
Speaker 2: its potential on the field between the lines, from start

2351
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 2: to finish in a football game. They have not won

2352
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:43,760
Speaker 2: back to back games in two months, so the thought

2353
02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:47,240
Speaker 2: of running off five wins with the next two games

2354
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:49,840
Speaker 2: against the top two of the top five defenses in

2355
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:52,720
Speaker 2: football is hard for a lot of people to fathom.

2356
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:56,280
Speaker 2: And believe me, I'm the first person that wants to

2357
02:04:56,360 --> 02:04:59,240
Speaker 2: believe that this team can rip off five straight wins.

2358
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:01,800
Speaker 2: But when you haven't done it for two months, and

2359
02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:07,040
Speaker 2: when you haven't played a complete three phase football game,

2360
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:11,360
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe the Jets game comes close. Thirty two

2361
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:13,200
Speaker 2: to six. That was as clean a game as they

2362
02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 2: have played in two and a half months against a

2363
02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 2: team that is lost right now. In the Jets lost,

2364
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:25,400
Speaker 2: I mean their offense is out on mars right now.

2365
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:28,600
Speaker 2: I mean they can't score an offensive touchdown to save

2366
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 2: their life. That's the best performance you have in terms

2367
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:36,280
Speaker 2: of all three phases. Yesterday, you love what the offense did,

2368
02:05:37,720 --> 02:05:41,520
Speaker 2: the defense kind of falters in the second half, and

2369
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:45,640
Speaker 2: special teams is out to lunch again with execution on

2370
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 2: field goals or problem and penalties, you know, affecting field position.

2371
02:05:52,840 --> 02:05:55,960
Speaker 2: They have to prove it. The proof is in the putting.

2372
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:59,200
Speaker 2: In this league, the potential doesn't mean a hill of beans.

2373
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:01,840
Speaker 2: It's like Bill Parson used to always say, your record

2374
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 2: says what you are. And they're six and six and MIKEA.

2375
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 2: Hyde said in the locker room after the game, where

2376
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 2: six and six can't run from it. So stuff has

2377
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:17,040
Speaker 2: to change quickly. Consistency has to be the model for

2378
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:18,920
Speaker 2: this team the rest of the way, because if it's not,

2379
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 2: there's no way in heck they're running off five straight wins.

2380
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if they run off five straight wins,

2381
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 4: certainly the narrative is going to be changed dramatically, no question.

2382
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:29,120
Speaker 4: But that's you know, I mean, what are you asking for?

2383
02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:31,840
Speaker 4: Here's something they you know it's gonna be hard to do.

2384
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:34,680
Speaker 2: They got You're asking to find something that they haven't

2385
02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:37,240
Speaker 2: found for the first thirteen weeks of the season.

2386
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:41,280
Speaker 4: Find it or not. I mean, they've shown that they

2387
02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 4: can play really well on both all three sides of

2388
02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:47,040
Speaker 4: the ball, but they continue to struggle to do it consistently.

2389
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:47,920
Speaker 2: And to get in a game.

2390
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:51,440
Speaker 4: And plus it's hard. It's hard to play consistently when

2391
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 4: you when your hiccup at the start of the game

2392
02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:56,400
Speaker 4: is because you're getting triple penalties called on you in

2393
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:58,280
Speaker 4: three consecutive plays, none of which makes sense.

2394
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:00,920
Speaker 2: You're not getting help from the officials like that, you know.

2395
02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 4: So they're fighting up. It's an uphill battle. Yeah, and

2396
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:06,560
Speaker 4: luck does have something to do with it, no question

2397
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:08,560
Speaker 4: about it. But as we saw last night, even when

2398
02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:10,600
Speaker 4: the bad luck goes against you, like if you want

2399
02:07:10,640 --> 02:07:12,440
Speaker 4: to call you officials that if it goes against you

2400
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:15,520
Speaker 4: in the first half, like there's still up ten this

2401
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:19,520
Speaker 4: there is an enormous engine under the hood of this

2402
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 4: team we have. I've said it like that for a

2403
02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 4: couple of years now. They are They've got an enormous

2404
02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:29,040
Speaker 4: engine on both sides of the ball. In my opinion, now,

2405
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 4: I think they're they are as good a they're as

2406
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:35,560
Speaker 4: good a football team if when they play their best,

2407
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:38,560
Speaker 4: Nobody in this in the National Football League is better

2408
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:43,240
Speaker 4: than them. Nobody, not the Chiefs, not the Eagles, nobody, uh,

2409
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:46,200
Speaker 4: this team when they play with Josh at quarterback, because

2410
02:07:46,200 --> 02:07:50,840
Speaker 4: I've told you also, uh, Josh is the absolute best

2411
02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:53,320
Speaker 4: player in the league bar none. He's playing like it

2412
02:07:53,440 --> 02:07:55,080
Speaker 4: right now. He's never gonna He's not gonna win the

2413
02:07:55,160 --> 02:07:59,200
Speaker 4: MVP because of their record, but nobody is playing football

2414
02:07:59,200 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 4: any better than Josh right now. And with that, that alone,

2415
02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:08,240
Speaker 4: in and of itself, should give them the impetus to

2416
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:09,960
Speaker 4: be able to beat win any of the games they've

2417
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:14,360
Speaker 4: got left. But they got to play. Everybody's got to

2418
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 4: play their best all the time to match Josh and

2419
02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 4: to help him out.

2420
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 2: And that's the fly and the oil.

2421
02:08:20,120 --> 02:08:20,880
Speaker 4: And that's the problem.

2422
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:23,080
Speaker 2: That's the fly in the ointman. Because Josh goes for

2423
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:27,240
Speaker 2: over four hundred and nineteen yards of total offense by himself,

2424
02:08:28,040 --> 02:08:33,680
Speaker 2: scores four touchdowns, including two with his legs. But because

2425
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:37,720
Speaker 2: Special Teams has some miscues and the defense falters at

2426
02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:41,280
Speaker 2: the end, they can't win the football game. And look,

2427
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 2: Special Teams played lights out against the Jets last week.

2428
02:08:44,080 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 2: They set the tone, force an early turnover, win the

2429
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 2: battle of field position by a mile. Last week against

2430
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:53,800
Speaker 2: the Jets, they played great. But then you come out

2431
02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 2: the next week and you have that performance, and that

2432
02:08:57,160 --> 02:09:00,200
Speaker 2: is the up and down nature that this team has

2433
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:05,400
Speaker 2: found supremely difficult to eradicate, typically in two of their

2434
02:09:05,480 --> 02:09:09,040
Speaker 2: three phases every week, and they've all taken turns. Let's

2435
02:09:09,080 --> 02:09:12,000
Speaker 2: make no mistake about that. All three phases of this

2436
02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:16,840
Speaker 2: football team have taken turns at having a subpar performance.

2437
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:20,800
Speaker 2: Some have persisted longer than others. The offense was wayward

2438
02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:25,680
Speaker 2: for six weeks. Special teams probably three of the last

2439
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:29,120
Speaker 2: five weeks have been substandard from what they're used to

2440
02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:31,760
Speaker 2: doing on a weekly basis, and the defense has had

2441
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 2: its share of problems at the end of football games.

2442
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:38,160
Speaker 2: How do you pull all that together and get all

2443
02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:42,880
Speaker 2: three phases operating, if not at an optimum level, at

2444
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:46,840
Speaker 2: least at an above average level all three phases because

2445
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:49,640
Speaker 2: the caliber teams you're playing the next two weeks are

2446
02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:53,280
Speaker 2: demanding that of you. If you want to win both

2447
02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:56,440
Speaker 2: of those next two games against Kansas City and Dallas, respectively,

2448
02:09:56,920 --> 02:09:57,760
Speaker 2: that's just where it's at.

2449
02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got to play better more often. Mistakes are

2450
02:10:04,240 --> 02:10:07,920
Speaker 4: killing him, the ones we've outlined throughout the show. You know,

2451
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:15,080
Speaker 4: drop passes, miscommunications with receivers and quarterback just you gotta

2452
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:17,280
Speaker 4: you gotta do better. You gotta do better and play

2453
02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:19,880
Speaker 4: more consistently. And that's that's the frustrating part about the

2454
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 4: whole thing. And and I'll say this too, a little

2455
02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:25,520
Speaker 4: bit of this stuff with the miscommunication and the you know,

2456
02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:29,680
Speaker 4: the missed routes. You just switched to offensive coordinators. And

2457
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:34,240
Speaker 4: it hadn't occurred to me before that that maybe Joe

2458
02:10:34,360 --> 02:10:37,360
Speaker 4: Brady will pull a play out here or there that

2459
02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 4: off from off the you know, off the table that

2460
02:10:40,400 --> 02:10:43,240
Speaker 4: wasn't really part of the conversation during the week because

2461
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:44,520
Speaker 4: he knows it's gonna where all of a sudden it

2462
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:46,720
Speaker 4: comes up and it's gonna work. That the menu is

2463
02:10:46,840 --> 02:10:50,120
Speaker 4: so big for these NFL offenses. Maybe Joe Brady's getting

2464
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:53,480
Speaker 4: off the page a little bit where Ken Dorsey never did,

2465
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:57,320
Speaker 4: and now the guys are getting caught not knowing. I mean,

2466
02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:59,680
Speaker 4: this is the second game not knowing. Maybe that's where

2467
02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:01,520
Speaker 4: he's got to go in his thought process or what's

2468
02:11:01,560 --> 02:11:05,760
Speaker 4: going to be available. So there's probably it could be

2469
02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:07,920
Speaker 4: chalked up to that I hadn't thought about that before,

2470
02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 4: and I'm making excuses, but I could see that being

2471
02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:16,160
Speaker 4: an issue. But nevertheless, you gotta you gotta get buttoned up.

2472
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:17,680
Speaker 4: You gotta get buttoned up.

2473
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:19,880
Speaker 2: Break time for us a final phone call or too.

2474
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:21,520
Speaker 2: When we were turning here on one Bills Live on

2475
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:41,440
Speaker 2: a Buffalo Football Monday, stay tuned all right, right back

2476
02:11:41,480 --> 02:11:43,160
Speaker 2: to the phones here in our final segment on a

2477
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:46,640
Speaker 2: Buffalo Football Monday to Barb in Lockport, what do you got, Barb?

2478
02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:52,640
Speaker 29: Hi, guys, great show, heartbroken, but love the Bills always.

2479
02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:55,280
Speaker 29: I have a question next year if you addressed it

2480
02:11:55,440 --> 02:12:00,960
Speaker 29: or not. The fumble in overtime, to me sitting on

2481
02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 29: my couch, looked like a fumble. The Eagles guy took

2482
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:07,680
Speaker 29: two steps and then it was knapped out and we

2483
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 29: recovered it. So my question is do you think that

2484
02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:15,480
Speaker 29: was a fumble? And I spelt to take three steps

2485
02:12:15,560 --> 02:12:17,800
Speaker 29: and order it for bets, for that to be a

2486
02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:20,600
Speaker 29: complete pass and catch.

2487
02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:21,040
Speaker 23: Yeah, it was.

2488
02:12:21,320 --> 02:12:24,760
Speaker 2: It was a really close Playbarb. And that happened in overtime.

2489
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:30,000
Speaker 2: All those reviews go upstairs. I'm assuming it did, and

2490
02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:33,880
Speaker 2: they quickly ruled that he had not completed the catch

2491
02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:36,520
Speaker 2: and declared himself as a runner. I thought it was

2492
02:12:36,680 --> 02:12:41,400
Speaker 2: very close. I think it was borderline. What really incensed

2493
02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:44,360
Speaker 2: Bills fans is later that evening, Keenan Allen did the

2494
02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:47,839
Speaker 2: same thing and it was ruled a fumble after two steps.

2495
02:12:48,200 --> 02:12:52,040
Speaker 2: So it just speaks to the inconsistencies of officiating these days.

2496
02:12:52,160 --> 02:12:54,200
Speaker 4: When I saw it, I'll say this, I thought it

2497
02:12:55,280 --> 02:12:59,320
Speaker 4: bordered on being closer to an incomplete pass than a

2498
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:03,160
Speaker 4: fumble in the same regard as I thought the early

2499
02:13:03,640 --> 02:13:07,440
Speaker 4: pass interference was pass interference on sherfield early in the game.

2500
02:13:07,480 --> 02:13:08,840
Speaker 4: I thought that was on the other side of it.

2501
02:13:09,240 --> 02:13:11,280
Speaker 4: I thought the sherfield thing was they said it was

2502
02:13:11,320 --> 02:13:13,160
Speaker 4: a bang bang play. I thought it was too short

2503
02:13:13,200 --> 02:13:16,080
Speaker 4: of a bang bang play to be not interference. It

2504
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:18,800
Speaker 4: should have been interference. And I thought the incompletion he

2505
02:13:18,920 --> 02:13:23,240
Speaker 4: hadn't put the ball away on that even though he

2506
02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:25,120
Speaker 4: had run a couple of steps, he didn't put the

2507
02:13:25,200 --> 02:13:27,240
Speaker 4: ball away and tuck it, which is a lot of

2508
02:13:27,320 --> 02:13:29,960
Speaker 4: what they look for when they do fumble. So I

2509
02:13:30,720 --> 02:13:33,160
Speaker 4: was okay actually with the incomplete pass call instead of

2510
02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:35,320
Speaker 4: the fumble, even though the would have went the Bill's way.

2511
02:13:35,960 --> 02:13:38,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, just add that on to the and that's

2512
02:13:38,920 --> 02:13:41,520
Speaker 4: the thing. The inconsistencies are really kind of what get people.

2513
02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:44,280
Speaker 2: Tom and East Damnhurst. You got twenty seconds Tom what

2514
02:13:44,360 --> 02:13:44,600
Speaker 2: he got.

2515
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 22: Well to just say that, the inability for the Bills

2516
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:55,640
Speaker 22: to close out the game, you know, it's gotta be

2517
02:13:55,880 --> 02:14:00,440
Speaker 22: the head coaching. It's gotta you know, I'll do a

2518
02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:04,440
Speaker 22: little bit better job of just stealing the deal. It

2519
02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:09,400
Speaker 22: almost reminds me back to the Levy Kelly days when

2520
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:12,440
Speaker 22: we had the team, we had the horses. Yeah, but

2521
02:14:13,200 --> 02:14:14,560
Speaker 22: the coaching can't get it done.

2522
02:14:14,840 --> 02:14:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I respect it, Tom, I understand what you're saying.

2523
02:14:17,480 --> 02:14:19,800
Speaker 2: I think the defense is so shorthanded. I think it

2524
02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:25,280
Speaker 2: limits Sean McDermott's adjustments that he can turn to. Yep,

2525
02:14:25,680 --> 02:14:28,080
Speaker 2: that's it for us today. We'll catch it tomorrow at

2526
02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:30,480
Speaker 2: one for a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live. Thanks

2527
02:14:30,520 --> 02:14:31,360
Speaker 2: for watching and listening.