1 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged. 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: Man. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: We just had a great experience in Dallas. We were 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: on the ground for the Tyson Paul fight and forgive 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: that fire alarmer in the new building and someone either 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: must be smoking up a storm or burning bacon. Shit's 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: been going off for about thirty minutes now, but we're 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: gonna get through it. For most of you that don't 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: know all the smoke was able to recover? Is that 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: the right word be archives from Showtime Boxing and Fight 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: and we now have that under our umbrella, immediately putting 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: us in front of ten million avid fight fans with lessing, 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: but that with those numbers, we were able to partner 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: with Netflix and be a part of this amazing week 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 1: they had. And before we actually get to the week, 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: I want to give a huge shout out to Netflix. 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean from the time they picked me up at 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: my house, they got me to lax, they moved someone 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: else's seat so I can have a more comfortable seat. 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: They walk me out onto like the tarmac where the 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: planes were, and drove me in a car to like 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: a different terminal. I didn't even have to go in 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: the loading area. I got to walk right up the 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: stairs to the plan. I really felt like I was somebody, 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: and that's because of Netflix. When we got to Dallas, 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: they had people they're ready for us, that grabbed our luggage, 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: took us to the hotel, any questions, anything, took care 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: of myself. The whole team even got rooms for my 29 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: twins last minute. So we want to thank everyone in 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Netflix for rolling out not only the red carpet for us, 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: but for everybody. This was one of their first live 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: major sporting events. You know, obviously they did a hot 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: dog eating contest, but I think this Paul and Tyson fight, 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: with the numbers they did, showed that live sports is 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: definitely in their future. Amazing event, amazing night, and definitely 36 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: want to show some love to Netflix. Outside of the 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: actual fight, we got a chance to shut up, set 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: up shop out there, sat down with some of Netflix's 39 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: VIP guest, sat down with the One and Only Doc, 40 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: had an amazing conversation with him and really looking forward 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: to you guys seeing that and what's a store for 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: him in twenty twenty five. Also sat down with said 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: the entertainer who had us laughing the entire time, but said, 44 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: they said, you came to the fighting some bullshit, and 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: they were on you on in the internet something about 46 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: coming to America, and I don't really know Sab, but 47 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, you're still my guy, and I'm Mari Hardwick. 48 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: My brother Mari Man had sat down and had a 49 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: real dope, deep conversation with him. So looking forward to 50 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: you all the Smoke fans catching those episodes. And also 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: had a chance for the first time to do Art 52 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: of Smoke, a name that Jack came up with with 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: the on the Fly with myself, Stack, Roy Jones, and 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: Andre Ward had a great time the pre fight for Netflix. 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: So we had a great time doing that. So I 56 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: say all that to say, man, we had a great 57 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: time in Dallas. Thank you to Netflix, Thank you to 58 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: all of our guests. Read a new point in the 59 00:02:54,760 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: way people consume content. Streaming services are huge, you know obvious. 60 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: You know Netflix crashed a few different times, but I 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: think overall it was definitely a successful night. That just 62 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: means a ton of people and a ton of traffic 63 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: were on the site. We know that Netflix has signed 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: a deal with WWE. Starting in twenty twenty five, all 65 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: Monday night raws will be on there. They have a 66 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Christmas Day game where they just announced that Beyonce will 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: be performing. I really see the sky being the limit 68 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: for Netflix, and it was honored to be a part 69 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: of that. And we hope you keep us in mind 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: for all your other live events. Hope you guys enjoyed 71 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: the fight. Obviously, you know the Mic and Jake fight. 72 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: We were wrong with our predictions, but I think overall 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: it was a win. But to get a little bit 74 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: deeper into that conversation, let me bring in my brother, 75 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Roy Jones, the newest member of the All the Smoke 76 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: Fight family. 77 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: Roy was going on, man, how you feel it? 78 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: Good? Good? First of all, I want to thank you. 79 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: Obviously we got a chance to really sit down while 80 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: we were in Dallas. But man, it's just it gives 81 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: me goosebumps what I just said. To know the fact 82 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: that we have an opportunity to have you in the 83 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: mix with us, all your experience and your knowledge of 84 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: the game is really going to take us to another level. 85 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: So I personally want to thank you for you know, 86 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: coming coming into the family. 87 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: I want to thank you guys for having me and 88 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: you andres Stack. I want to thank all y'all for 89 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: having me. Man, It's like it's a dream come true 90 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: to have such a team around me, to be a 91 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: part of such a team. So I really appreciate you 92 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: guys coming and inviting me to come. 93 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: On board, no doubt, no doubt. Well, let's get to 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: what we're here for. How was your experience? You got 95 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: a chance to call the fight an electric evening? What 96 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: was it like for you? 97 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: My experience calling the fight was cool. It was just 98 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: a little bit like, you know, you like, you just 99 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: want to make sure Mike is okay, because Mike is 100 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: a legend, and you don't want to see a legend 101 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: get humiliated or embarrassed. Although he is a legend and 102 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: he didn't make good money, you still don't want to 103 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: see him get embarrassed nor humiliated. So that good. Nobody 104 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: got hurt, and that was the main thing for me. 105 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: He got his money, he got out, so I'm just 106 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: glad for him, you know absolutely. 107 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some numbers because I just think 108 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: the overall night was a success. Seventy thousand people in attendance, 109 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: They got nearly eighteen million dollars at the gate. Sixty 110 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: five million people watched the Tyson Paul fight per Netflix. 111 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: Per Netflix, fifty million watched the Serrano Taylor fight to me, 112 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: which was the best fight of the night that would 113 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: put it at one of the most watched women's sporting 114 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: events in US history per Netflix. Let's start with that, 115 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: that that pre fight Serrano and Taylor. I was there, 116 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: you were obviously calling it. What was your thoughts on that? 117 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: Because I know that Serrano, through the most punches per 118 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: female copy box numbers, she landed one hundred and seven 119 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: more punches landed out a higher clip. I think we 120 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: all saw those butts by Taylor, but somehow she still 121 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: lost in a unanimous decision when they also took a 122 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: point away from Taylor. So I mean, from my point 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: of view, the scoring was a little crooked. But what 124 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: did you think? 125 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: Let me say, let me say a few things. I'm 126 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: glad you bought this up, and I want to say 127 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: this without having any disrespect to anybody, because that's how 128 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: I'm here for. But you got to kind of call 129 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: it like you see it, you feel mean, I think, 130 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: first of all, for Soronto's side, I think both fights 131 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: could have easier just as well with to Sono as 132 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: they did to Katie Tailor. Now my thing is, your 133 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: promoter is promoting to fight. The first fight is in 134 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: your backyard. I feel like you want the first fight 135 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 2: bigger than you want the second, if you want it. 136 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: But they didn't give you the fight in your own backyard, 137 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: and your guys are promoting to fight. That's kind of 138 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: strange to me. First Secondly, this time, I think Katie 139 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: called the gallup bit better, and I thought Katie did 140 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: better in the second fight than she did in the 141 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: first fight. But if they didn't give you the first 142 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: fight in your own hometown and you got the promoters, 143 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: why would I think they're gonna give you the second 144 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: fight When Katie actually came up and did a bit better. 145 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: You almost heard you heard it in the first round, 146 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: but that's the only time you really to hurt her. 147 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: She actually choose some pretty decent blows the second time. 148 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: That was kind of telling. And so it was like, 149 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: both you guys now in the great power shots, she 150 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: probably just as many as you. I'm not sure, but 151 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I thought it was a great fight. I 152 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: really thought a Manda probably edged out again. But I 153 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: didn't expect them to give it to Manda, because if 154 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: they didn't give it to her in our hometown, where 155 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: you I really thought she probably really wanted I didn't 156 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: expect them to give it to her own equal turf 157 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: because it just don't happen that way. So now the 158 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: part about the head, But Katie Taylor is part of 159 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: the reason female boxes even in the Olympics. Katy Taylor 160 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: had to dress as a boy to be able to 161 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: fight in the UK because they didn't allow women to fight. 162 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: Katie Taylor has done so much for female fighting that 163 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: to go be a cheat and to try to intentionally 164 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: but somebody will be against everything Katy Taylor ever stood for. 165 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: She stood sport just as hard as a harder than 166 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: most people that are doing. So why would she want 167 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: to go do something stupid like intentionally hitbut to give 168 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: something a black guy that she works so hard and 169 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: so diligently to even get accepted. I just don't see that. So, 170 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that I prefer to Katy Taylor 171 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: over the Mende Souana. No. I think Amanda, like I said, 172 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: could have won both of those decisions. But at the 173 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: same time, I don't think Katy was trying to intentionally 174 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: but nobody, because that's just not who Katie really is. 175 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: If you know, Katy, and know what Katy has been through, 176 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: and know the struggles Katy has done, has been through 177 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: the fight for this sport of woman boxing. You know 178 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: that she don't want to do nothing to give this 179 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: sport a black guy. That's why she say it right away. 180 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: She knows it was a close fight. She knows she 181 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: may have not won. That why she say it right 182 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 2: away after the fight. Of course I'll do it again. 183 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: Why would she not a person that thought they are 184 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: won for real? Bit do this again? No, she didn't say, 185 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: she said, of course, I do it again. She know 186 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: it was She knew it could have gone either way, 187 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: just like the person could have. 188 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: Obviously gonna respect you know your point of view and 189 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: what she stood up for boxing. But I thought she 190 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: a couple of them butts, I thought a couple of 191 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: them things were intentional. But I think my next question 192 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: to you is how much does the actual visual of 193 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: someone's eye you know what I mean? The cut she 194 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: had was nasty rider broo. How much does that play 195 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: into the judge's decisions and your experience? 196 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: It sounds like it played a lot until it this time, 197 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 2: and sometimes it does because some judges take that as 198 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: though okay, you're we can fight it. But a man 199 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: of fault just as good and just as hard. Even 200 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: with that cut them, she showed that she had the 201 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: heart of a champion, heart of alliance, So that should 202 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: not have been taken into any kind of consideration because 203 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: that cut didn't stop her nor slow her down at all. 204 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: She kept doing what she was doing. And like I said, 205 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: I'm not saying she didn't win to fight, you know, 206 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: to fight. To me, both fights could have gone either way. 207 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: And me the first thing in New York, I thought 208 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 2: for sure they were gonna give it to her a 209 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: man because she was at home. But they didn't. So 210 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: they didn't give her the first one. I definitely didn't 211 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: think they were gonna give her a. 212 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: Sephone Taylor got the biggest purse that any woman's ever received, right, 213 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: a little bit over six million dollars. That's great. 214 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: That's that's eye opening, eye opening and groundbreaking for women's boxing. 215 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: All she's doing is still her and Amanda is eye 216 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: opening and groundbreaking for women's boxing. So I can't sit 217 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: there and say all she does, how could she be 218 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: She's trying to advocate for something that people didn't want 219 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: to accept and she's making it making they are making 220 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: people accept it. But look how hard they're fighting. They 221 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: giving us a fight that the men don't give it 222 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: that good to fight sometime most of the time that's 223 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: the afraiser of women. If you feeling so, how could 224 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: you not accept that and be appreciable. Yeah, the judges 225 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: may mess it up some true, but this is boxing, 226 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: and you guys are making monumental steps and female boxing 227 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: steffs that never have been made by any other two 228 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: fighters on his planet as far as females go. 229 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: H No, I agree, man, and that was one of 230 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: the best fights I'd seen on the female side in 231 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: a long time. Let's move along to obviously what everyone 232 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: was there for. You know, there's been whispers and obviously 233 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: I don't really want to go down this rabbit hole 234 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: because I think we both agree at the end of 235 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: the day. It was a win for Mike at fifty 236 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: eight to be able to get a twenty million dollar 237 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: pay day as a fifty eight year old legend, which 238 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: is huge. It's the biggest pay day hearned earned in 239 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: the last twenty years. 240 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: You know. 241 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: For Jake to get forty million, it's the biggest payday 242 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: he ever got. But there was times where I kind 243 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: of felt like there were punches that Mike held. You know, 244 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: you're here in and again I'm not a conspiracy theorist, 245 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: but you do hear you know, kind of stuff circling 246 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: around where you know, Mike wasn't allowed to throw uppercuts 247 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: and Mike wasn't allowed to do this and do that. 248 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: From your point of view, did you see any of 249 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: that or you just kind of saw, you know, what 250 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: we thought we were going to saw. You know, someone 251 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: who was one of the greatest fighters ever is just 252 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: fifty eight years old right now, and he was able 253 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: to last eight rounds with the young Thundercat. 254 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: Well, my thing is, first of all, my hat goes 255 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: off to him for going eight rounds with anybody, absolute period. 256 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: You understand me. I mean, fifty eight year year old 257 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: going eight rounds. I don't care if there two minutes, 258 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 2: three minutes. A fifty eight year old going eight rounds 259 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: is out of this world. Number one, number two. There 260 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: are things that probably he could have done a little 261 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: bit more of a little bit better had he really 262 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: been trying to do that. But at the same time, 263 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: what people don't understand is Jake does have a really 264 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: good straight right hand and a good overhand right and 265 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: a good right up cut. So when you try to 266 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: throw your upper cut, you're right up a cut. Being 267 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: at you're fifty eight years old, you really expose yourself 268 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: to be hit with his right hand or his overhand 269 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: right which are the best two punches he got. So 270 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: in my defense for Mike, why would I go out 271 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: there throwing upcuts at fifty eight years old when I 272 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: know that that's just gonna open me up for a 273 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: shot that he may catch me in my night humidiation investment? 274 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: Why would I do that? You know what I'm saying. 275 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 2: So it's like I do understand what people saying. But 276 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: at the same time, from a box standpoint, you gott 277 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: to know those punches. If you throw it right up 278 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: a cut. Yeah, and this a young guy, you fifty eight, 279 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: that's gonna probably expose you a little bit more than 280 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: you want to be exposed. 281 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: Right now, I would agree you were the last person 282 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: to fight him. And you know, in the last twenty years, 283 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: what did you see different in the fight with against 284 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: you that you saw versus Paul. 285 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: The first thing was the immediate thing that I made 286 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: note of on the telecast was his legs didn't look 287 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: the same as when he caught me, you know, And 288 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: that's not saying nothing bad. I don't know if he 289 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: ever had a knee. He may have had a knee injury. 290 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that. I wasn't saying nothing bad about that, 291 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: just said that his legs didn't look the same. Sometime 292 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: four years could have taken a toll on him, or 293 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: he could have had an injury. We don't know. Like 294 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: Mike said, he went through so much stuff he almost died, 295 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: so anything could have happened. We don't know, but I 296 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: can promise you that his legs were not the same. 297 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: Hence he was not able to attack as freely and 298 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: as often as he attacked me. He attacked me pretty 299 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: much all in that long and he's been that same person. 300 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: Then he definitely with a peat hake. So but because 301 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: of either the injury or whatever was going on with 302 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: his legs, something was not right with his leg you know. 303 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: And like I said, I hear my commenting partner, I 304 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: hear what he's saying. But even if you look back 305 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: at old Mike Tyson fights, I see him with his 306 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: hands here all the time. But I never seen him 307 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: biting the thumb of his glob. This time, he biting 308 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: the thumb of his glob. I never seen him like 309 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: do it. Even when I fought him, he never did that. 310 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: So it's like I hear them, but Nah, something something 311 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: was going on with Mike. I was wrong with Yeah, 312 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: Either he was frustrated that he couldn't do they want 313 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: to do because of his legs or something. I don't 314 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: know one hundred percent of what it was, but it 315 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: definitely was something. 316 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agreed. I helped my group chat my homeboys 317 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: after the first round. I'm like, I don't like the 318 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: way Mike's legs look. He just didn't look sturdy. But 319 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: I think we're both in agreeance. Overall, this was a 320 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: huge win for Mike. I think it. It brought uh, yeah, huge, huge. 321 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: You know, two different demographics. You know, the eighties and 322 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: nineties people who loved Mike and and revere him as 323 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all time. And Jake was 324 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: able to bring in this newer Internet generation who may 325 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: not know Mike's history, but probably after this probably went 326 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: back and looked up and saw what he was able 327 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: to do for this game of boxing and all his greatness, 328 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: So I think again, overall, the night was a win. 329 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: I think the atmosphere was electric. Netflix really rolled out 330 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: the red carpet from start to finish, you know, from 331 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: just the red carpet treatment from the airport to the hotel. 332 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: Once you get there. You know, we were sitting in 333 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: the first couple of rows and everything was free drinks, food, 334 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: whatever you needed. I mean, they spared no expense. As 335 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: someone who's obviously boxed in the biggest surroundings and been 336 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: at fights, where did this kind of rank as far 337 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: as the energy in the atmosphere with previous fights you've 338 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: been around. 339 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: Great's very high for me, and maybe even the top 340 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: maybe probably the top ones on the scene, because you 341 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: got to think about it. What he basically did is 342 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: he expired. He allowed allowed Mike Tyson to be exposed 343 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: to the social media frenzy that's going on now. You know, 344 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: we yourself, me Mike, we came along before that social 345 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: media frenzy took place. Right now that it has happened, 346 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: most of us people that we missed it. But Netflix 347 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: just blessed Mike Tyson to be able to come back 348 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: by way of Jake Paul and experience and get some 349 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: of the fruit of this social media frenzy. And that 350 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: was a beautiful thing to me because had it not 351 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: been for that, Mike would have vantages like us, we 352 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: just we just missed it and to keep going. But 353 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: because he was so great at what he head back then, 354 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: he was able to come back and still generate that 355 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: kind of attention on a fight because of what he 356 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: did in his past. And that's pretty big. 357 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, what fifty eight year old is going 358 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: to make twenty dollars and well what and what that 359 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: sixteen minutes of fight on fight time at the end 360 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: of the day. So but I really want to also, 361 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: you know, congratulate Jake in his promotions. You know what 362 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: they've been able to do. They've been able to you know, 363 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: we had a meeting before with these YouTube guys that 364 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: are trying to help us get our stuff together, and 365 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: he said, you know, before the fight, he's like, the 366 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: Paul Brothers are great at breaking the Internet, and that's 367 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: what they did. They crashed Netflix of you time. That's 368 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: been the most talked about thing the last few days. 369 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: But the opportunity he gave Mike, the opportunity in the 370 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: platform he's giving these women to continue to grow the 371 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: sport as someone who is a legend as yourself, do 372 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: you respect the because again, there was a lot of 373 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: rumbling when he first came on, and I think obviously 374 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: people are starting to respect him more because he's taking 375 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: it serious. But what do you think as someone in 376 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: your position? The platform he's in, the eyeballs, he's bringing 377 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 1: the boxing. 378 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: My hat went off to him in the beginning because 379 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: I understood it and I saw it. My hat goes 380 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: off to him even more every day because each and 381 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: every day he does something that's helpful, NOTx just himself, 382 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: but to other people to help them women get the 383 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: kind of paity there that they got and that they 384 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: so richly deserve. Was a beautiful thing on his part. 385 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: The fact that he could bring so much and he's 386 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: sharing it with everybody else. Come on, man, that's what 387 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 2: people stuff with you. That's what I think life is about, 388 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: getting it, bringing it and sharing with other people. That's 389 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 2: what Jake is doing. Jake is doing exactly what I 390 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: would think a person like that should do, a person 391 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: of that caniber should do. If you can get it, share, 392 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: share with those who deserve it. Those women deserve it 393 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: more than anybody on the planet. So for him to 394 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: give those women an opportunity, for him to give my 395 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: tyson the opportunity, it was a beautiful thing to me. Man, 396 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but it was a beautiful thing. 397 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: All right. I'm gonna give you a magic wand right here, 398 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: promotion companies away, give me three fights you want to 399 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: see in twenty twenty five. 400 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: Zang versus Bcoli, becolloge just beat Jared Nenerson. I'm wanna 401 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: see the big, the big Chinese guy fight him. I 402 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: would like to see Canelo versus Benevedez, and uh, you know, Jeff, 403 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: for the record, I still like to see Josh versus Wilder, 404 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: just the person. 405 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: And I think there's rumblings about that possibly happened. I 406 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: just heard while there's getting back, you know, back to 407 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: trainings that I'd be understanding. I would want to throw 408 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: h tank and secure in that mix. Uh as well. 409 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: Last question, again, we've given Jake praise on the promotion side, 410 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: in the platform he's bringing. In your opinion, what does 411 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: he have to do to really start getting respects in 412 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: the in the boxing space. 413 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: What he's trying to do fight the world champion for 414 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: real and see how he does against a real world champion, 415 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: are real top caliber fighter who's around his age. I 416 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: think that's a beautiful thing for him. I think it'd 417 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: be great for that person, and think you give him 418 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: a chance to see what he really is. And he's 419 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: doing the right thing. He's getting all the experience they 420 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: can get before you take their risk and do that. 421 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: But he wants to do that one day, so why 422 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: not let him try it. He done so much to 423 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: help other people, why not help him. 424 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: There you go, Well, I'm sure whatever he's going to 425 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: do is going to be successful. So Roy, again, thank 426 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: you for your time. It's an honor to have you 427 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: as a part of the family and we'll talk soon. 428 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 2: Bro, thank you, my brother. Good to see you and 429 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah, no doubt. 430 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: Well again like to thank my brother Roy Jones for 431 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: joining the family and his time. This morning, there were 432 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: some hefty NBA fins handed out to some of the 433 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: young boys in the league. LaMelo Ball got hit with 434 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars fine and Anthony Edwards got hit 435 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: with a thirty five thousand dollars fine for inappropriate gestures 436 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: to the crowd. I've been in both their guys of 437 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: shoes when it comes to fines. You know, obviously LaMelo, 438 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: he to me, is one of the most off the hook, 439 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: funny postgame interview guys. In the game, you know, might 440 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: have added pause. I think that's the word that the 441 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: kids used. He chose to use another word, and the 442 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: NBA had to handcuff that and then an you know, 443 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: crowds are crazy, and we've talked about that actually on 444 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: this show where you know, he didn't take well to 445 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: what someone said and he reacted to it. But this 446 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: new wave of young players that kind of say what 447 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: they want to say and do what they want to do, 448 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: and I'm not even at it. You know, everything in 449 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: interviews are supposed to be politically correct, and you're supposed 450 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: to say the right things and not say the wrong 451 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: things or even in the games do the right things. Now, 452 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't think this new generation cares too much about that. 453 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: These young guys are kind of out here, you know, 454 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: same what comes to the mind. And I'm not mad 455 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: because I was similar obviously didn't have the talent these 456 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: guys have, but always said what came to my mind. 457 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: And that's why I respect these guys and kind of 458 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: the way they're moving in this media space. You know 459 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: that the media has been changing overall for a while, 460 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: and the players are starting to change and their approach 461 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: to doing these interviews and the way they carry themselves. 462 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: As I said earlier, I'm am no stranger to fines. 463 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: I think last tally, I was close to six hundred 464 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in fines during my playing career, and we're 465 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: going to get into a few of those fines right now. 466 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: Take you guys down a walk down memory lane. But 467 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: before we dive into it, my team has a few 468 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: questions for me since I've been fined so much so 469 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: shoot away fellas and ladies. 470 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 3: Excuse me, Hey, Matt, how's it going? 471 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: What's your name? 472 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: Sir? What can you please state your name? 473 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: This stilling When you get fined or suspended, like, how 474 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: do you find out? Like is it the agent who 475 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 3: tells you? Do you get a call at the principal's office, 476 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 3: You get an email from the commissioner. 477 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: What's that first. 478 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: Step when you actually find out that you indeed did 479 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: get fined? 480 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: All of the above, except you don't get an email 481 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: from the commissioner. NBA security somehow gets through to you. 482 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Normally they go through the team to get through to me. 483 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: I had a ton of calls with keiky Vandawain. I 484 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: love that guy to death. He's a former bruin. But 485 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: Kiki used to find the fuck out of me, find 486 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: the fuck out of me. And the tough part is 487 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: is like you don't even have a chance to like, no, 488 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm not paying it. That shit comes out of your check. 489 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: So if I'm hit with twenty five, you know, we 490 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: get paid on the first and fifteen, so where over 491 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: that lands, I won't even see that money. It'll come 492 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: directly out of my check. But what's crazy is the 493 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: NBA security calls. They want to hear the story, So 494 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: you give them the story already knowing that they've made 495 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: up their mind. They're full of shit. They really don't 496 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: want to hear. They just want to kind of check 497 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: the boxes and say that they talked to the people involved. 498 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: So there were several fines I think that I got 499 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: that were reputation fines, not actually shit that I've crossed 500 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 1: the line. But don't get me wrong, I have crossed 501 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: the line a few times. 502 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 4: Hello, Matt, how does the paget excuse me? What's your name, 503 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter U. How does the pay get deducted? 504 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 505 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: No, Like I said, the pay comes right out. So 506 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: as soon as we're hit with that fine, it's not 507 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: like the team takes it out. I think the in 508 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: my circumstances, I think the NBA takes the money out, 509 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: or it could be the team right away. I don't 510 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: know who took the money. I just know I didn't 511 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: have it, and I also didn't know where it went. 512 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: Some people say that it, you know, the goes to charity. 513 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: I want to know what charity it went to. I 514 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: also want to know why can't I deduct that for taxes? Because, 515 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: like I said, I lost over half a million dollars 516 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: in fines and still had to pay those nasty taxes. 517 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: So I think those that fine money should have either one. 518 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: I should have got to pick the chair went to 519 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: since it was my money they were taken from me, 520 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: and too it should have been tax deductible. 521 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 5: All right, Matt, I got one for you. When you 522 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 5: go to the principal's office. I want to talk suspension. 523 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 5: When you go and speak to either the GM, the owner, 524 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 5: the commissioner, what's that situation like for you? And how 525 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 5: do you know about the suspension and how long it is. 526 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: Well, it's not it's not really the team. You don't 527 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: talk to your team, you know, because I think if 528 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: it was up to the team, they probably wouldn't suspend 529 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: their guys at all, hopefully, but it really it is 530 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: up to I know, the only people I've ever talked 531 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: to with NBA security, So again, they kind of have 532 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: their you know, few questions they want to ask about 533 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: the situation. I think already knowing what the consequences are 534 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: going to be and how much they're going to find, 535 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: so I think they're just kind of going through the 536 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: motions when they actually talk to the players. But I 537 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: think I definitely think there should be more transparency. You know, 538 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars fine is pretty hefty no matter 539 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: how much money you make, you know, so it just 540 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: kind of is what it is. But I definitely think 541 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: we should know exactly where the money is going that 542 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 1: they are taken from us. 543 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: Last one, did you ever appeal slash successfully appeal a fine? 544 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: I appealed a lot of them, and I was successful 545 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: on none of them, not a fucking not a single 546 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: one was I successful. So, like I said, my team 547 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: is so nice. They have some questions for me, and 548 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: they also pulled some edits of some of the fines 549 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: I received during my time in the league. So we'll 550 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: start with this first one. 551 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 3: Matt Barnes of the Los Angeles Clippers has been suspended 552 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 3: one game without pay for striking Greg Steins of the 553 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: Minnesota Timberwolves in the neck. Suspended one game without pay. 554 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: Let's see, let's take it out. So this okay, Now, 555 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: I do remember this. So this happened. He hit me 556 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: with a messed up screen earlier in the game, and 557 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: I was just tired of it, you know what I mean. 558 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: I had to chase JJB last round, so I'm already 559 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: guarding a point guard and this dude he clipped me 560 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: with his knee and gave me like a trolley horse 561 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: earlier in the game. So this is just kind of 562 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: having enough of his screens and if he wanted to smoke, 563 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: I was ready for it. 564 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 5: A water bottle incident in Washington. There's no video evidence 565 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 5: of about that one with the water bottle. 566 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: First, So I think I played really well that game. 567 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: I want to say I had like twenty six, twenty six, 568 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty six points. We were in DC 569 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: and there was a guy that was talking shit the 570 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: entire game, and the Wizard beat us that night. And 571 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: it actually wasn't a water bottle. It was a Gatoray cup, 572 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: but it had a little bit of water in it. 573 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: And when I tell you, I kicked this shit so 574 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: perfect that it hit the dude in the chest and 575 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: splashed him in the face of the water. That fine 576 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: was definitely worth it. That was probably one of the 577 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: only fines I'll say, like, I'm okay with losing that 578 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: twenty five K because this dude was talking shit and 579 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: we lost, and it just was a great I mean, 580 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: the bench was busting up, the people around him were 581 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: busting up, and it really shut him up. So you know, 582 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure it'd rather be in a Gatoray cup water 583 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: and the me actually putting my hands on him. So 584 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: I think he won the night. 585 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: January twenty seventh, twenty fifteen, Los Angeles Clippers forward Matt 586 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 3: Barnes has been fined twenty five thousand dollars for directing 587 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: inappropriate language toward a fan. 588 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: See this is bs right here. And the NBA knows this, 589 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: and the fact that they still wrote that they're full 590 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: of shit. So this actually was with Robert Sarver, the 591 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: former racist, sexist clown that used to own the Phoenix Suns. 592 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: So I was actually in a back and forth with 593 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: a dad and his son, but like a fun loving 594 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: back and forth, like kind of joking around because I'd 595 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: played in Phoenix before and this little I'm maybe thirteen 596 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: fourteen year ol kid. We're not really trash talking, We're 597 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: just kind of talking back and forth. And one of 598 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: my teammates are I don't remember who was on the 599 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: free throw line, but one the kid and I were 600 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: kind of talking in his dad and we were all 601 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: laughing back and forth, and we got to the free 602 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: throw line and Sarver said, don't talk. Sarv was maybe 603 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: eight rows away from the Sarvar was on the baseline, 604 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: the kid and his dad were on the sideline, everyone 605 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: front row, and someone said, don't talk to my fucking 606 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: fans like that, and I turned around and it was Sarver. 607 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: I already don't like this guy, so I really wanted 608 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: to go there and ring his neck. So I probably 609 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: said a few derogatory marks towards him, but it wasn't 610 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: toward the actual fans at all. It was towards him 611 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: and to me. My complaint was when I got the 612 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: call from NBA security, if I'm held to a certain standard, 613 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: why can't an owner cust it me and not be fined. 614 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: But again, I knew that was a battle I wasn't 615 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: gonna win. But fuck you, Robert Sarver. 616 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 5: So that you tweeted about this, did I? Yeah, I 617 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 5: want you to read the tweet. 618 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: Come on now. Barnes later tweeted another twenty five thousand 619 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: that part of the story that the NBA hasn't told 620 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: you was my language wasn't directed at a fan. I 621 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: was talking to the owner of the Suns who was 622 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: sitting on the baseline, and I only said something to 623 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: him after he custed me. But because I didn't snitch, 624 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: I get fined hashtagged the code times you sticking to 625 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: the script cost you a lot of money. But yeah, 626 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: so I basically just told you guys. So I didn't 627 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: even remember that I tweeted that. Was that a deleted 628 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: tweet or that one stayed? All these are deleted? 629 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 5: The bleaker? 630 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, hello there during the third quarter. This was also 631 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 4: November fourteen, thirteen. During the third quarter, Barnes tweeted, I 632 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 4: love my teammates like family, but I'm done standing up 633 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 4: for these bleep All the bleep does It's costs me money. 634 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: This sweet was later deleted. 635 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: So I'm done standing up for these niggas, is what 636 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: I said. All this shit does is cost me money. 637 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 638 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys know me and and kind 639 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: of followed my career, you know I was a protector 640 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: of my teammates at all times, and and you know 641 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: I was ready to go to war for them. Abaka 642 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: was always trying to do dirty shit and bully Blake, 643 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: so you know, I just letting him, let him know 644 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't having it. And then he reared back like 645 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: he's about to throw a spear at me, and I 646 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: smiled at him. But you know, sometimes in the heat 647 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: of battle, this is what happens. Again, I don't really 648 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: recall too many people actually getting into it with actually me, 649 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: it was most of the time my fines were for 650 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: taking up for people. And the only person, and I 651 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: think I've told this story before, the only person that 652 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: paid a fine when I stuck up for them was Kobe. 653 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: Kobe took care of the fine where I had his back. 654 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: BG Big Cat. I know we just talked about you 655 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: coming on all the smoke soon I can use that. 656 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: Uh what was that A thirty five boy? I know 657 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: you're retired now and you got you know, got a 658 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: little extra money around, so yeah, feel free to You 659 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: can still pay my fine even though it's nearly ten 660 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: years later, if you want. 661 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: Well. 662 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: I think the moral of the story is fines are 663 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: a part of the game. You know, in my case, 664 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: a lot of my fines were sticking up for people. 665 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: But again, you know I would do it again. That's 666 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: what kind of teammate it was. Was always a teammate 667 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: first guys. I think in the instance of Anthony Edwards 668 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: and LaMelo Ball, I think the league has given them 669 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: a few passes because they are colorful and fun and 670 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: some of the best interviews in the game. But you know, 671 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: in the NBA's opinion, they crossed the line this time, 672 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 1: so you know, hopefully they learn from it. But to 673 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I really don't want them to 674 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: change too much, maybe just choose their words and their 675 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: gestures a little different, because I think the color they 676 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: bring to the game is definitely needed. And I'm a 677 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: huge fan of both of these young guys. So you 678 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: guys know, since the first episode of Unplugged launched, the 679 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: neighborhood hater my guy, Gino Davis, has been a part 680 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: of the program, and we were talking about can he 681 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: and Ray Young hit ninety mile an hour fastballs. First 682 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: of all, Gino's not here today because I think it 683 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: was a little salty. You didn't get invited to the 684 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: Dallas trip, hey, but that's neither here nor there. If 685 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: you guys are listening by radio, make sure you guys, 686 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: when you get a second, go download this and check 687 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: out the footage. It was a blast. We had a 688 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: good time, and I don't think it was a ninety 689 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: mile an hour pitch. But you guys take a look 690 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: telling what you think. So as you guys can see, 691 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it was ninety. Let me tell you. 692 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: There was a lady that set up the gun and 693 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: she said it was ninety. But then there was a 694 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: guy that worked there that said it wasn't ninety, So 695 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe it was ninety. But nevertheless she 696 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: said it was ninety, so I had to pay up 697 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: the money. But don't think it all. This is the 698 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: last bet, Gino, Ray We got some shit coming for you. 699 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: You guys, get prepared. Before I get out of here, 700 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: I got a chance to sit down with my brother, 701 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: Rich Climban, and we discussed the ever evolving landscape of 702 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: sports media, the way we've both been able to build 703 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: our companies and everything that's gone into it. Before we 704 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: get out of here, I give you guys a quick peek, 705 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: but you can catch this on Board Room Dropping this Tuesday. 706 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 6: And do you feel like, you know, partnerships in business 707 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 6: are something that I really marvel at all the time. 708 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 6: You know, I take pride in the partnership that Kevin 709 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 6: and I have built because I don't think people understand 710 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 6: like there's work that needs to be put into a 711 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 6: great partnership, and then a great partnership, when it works, 712 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 6: can have such an incredible impact on your business, on 713 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 6: your life. And you have somebody that like counters and 714 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 6: compliments what your skill set is. Did you kind of 715 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 6: quickly start to realize you and Jack as partners and 716 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 6: in terms of how you both operate and the chemistry 717 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 6: you guys had was something special? And did you at 718 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 6: some point have to kind of like lock in with 719 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 6: him to make sure you were both on that road together, right, 720 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 6: because you need the same type of buying and focus 721 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 6: from both people. 722 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and and you know, early on it was a journey. 723 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Jack is my dog, but there was struggles 724 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: early on, you know, whether whether you know, showtime really 725 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: wanted you know, both of us are just me and 726 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, it came to the point where, like, you know, 727 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: if it's not both of us and none of us. 728 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: And then once we you know, we get going. This 729 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: is new. So although you know, and we're us and 730 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: we're so excited, we can actually smoke that you know, 731 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: sometimes smoking you know, got a little overboard, you know 732 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: what I mean, So we'd have to have conversations like 733 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: come on, bro, like we have to really lock in. 734 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: But I think one thing that really helped us obviously 735 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: is our chemistry and we're brother brothers, but we've also 736 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: been role players in our in our NBA career, so 737 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: we knew how to kind of fit in and find 738 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: what our role was. And and Jack, early on it's 739 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: just like, hey, you know, I try us you when 740 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: you go do these meetings that if you're in the room, 741 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm in the room. You know that I trust you 742 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: with the business side. You just need to let me 743 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: know where I need to show up and talk my shit, 744 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we both kind of 745 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: jumped into our role. So I kind of took more 746 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: of the business head behind the scenes and then also 747 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: the lead of the show. And then Jack would kind of, 748 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, do his part and compliment. But I think, 749 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, as we just had our five year anniversary, 750 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: you know, we've constantly been having these conversations of like, 751 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: I want him to want more, you know. I mean, 752 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't want you just to be talent now, you know. 753 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we'll get into that. We have a 754 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: whole business now, but I want you to start learning 755 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: this business and taking these meetings and you know, being 756 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: more prepared for opportunities because you know this all the 757 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: smoke is obviously spun into a whole production media company, 758 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: but it also spins off into other opportunities, and I 759 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: want you to be able to, you know, capitalize off 760 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: these opportunities from this platform we've created for each other. Yeah, 761 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: before we get out of here, I want to give 762 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: you my pick for the week, brought to you by DraftKings. 763 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: Last week was ugly. I went one in three, putting 764 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: my record at over. We're all six four and one, 765 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: but that's still a winning record. You already know I'm 766 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: gonna ride with the Niners ninety nine percent of the time, 767 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try to shit on the Cowboys one 768 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: hundred percent of the time. So here goes my picks 769 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: for the week. Eagles at the Rams Thursday night. I'm 770 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: gonna take the Eagles minus two and a half going 771 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: into La. Next up the NFC West. I'm really interested 772 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: in this game because the Cardinals I think, are a 773 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: game up now on the Niners. The Seahawks have a 774 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 1: chance to uh do something about that. So I'm actually 775 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: gonna take the Seahawks minus one at home. You know 776 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: they got that what do they call the Seahawks fan 777 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: the twelfth Man? Twelfth Man, You guys better show the 778 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: fuck up because we need you guys. Next up, Niners 779 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: at the Packers and all I got to although the 780 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: Packers are seven to three and looking good, we're five 781 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: and five were starting to get healthy. So I'm gonna 782 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: take the nine plus one and a half at Lambeau. 783 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: Here goes the chance to shit on the Cowboys. Cowboys 784 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: at the Commanders Commanders minus ten, I'm taking the Commanders, 785 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: and last but not least, coming off a heartbreaking loss 786 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens minus three at the Chargers in the Monday 787 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: Night game. So, last but not least, I'm gonna take 788 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens minus three and a half against the Chargers. 789 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: Ravens had a tough loss this past week, so I 790 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: know they'll rebound. Although I got a lot of coaching 791 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: friends on the Chargers side, I'm gonna take the Ravens 792 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: minus three coming to LA for the Monday Night game. 793 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: So I wish you guys the best of luck this 794 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: weekend and we'll see how we did next week. That's 795 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: a wrap. Thank you guys for joining this week. You 796 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: can catch us on all the Smoke Productions YouTube and 797 00:36:50,320 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: the DraftKings Network. You guys have a good week.