WEBVTT - We Went Black Friday Shopping. Terrible Idea. 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:08.039 Folks, it is Friday, November twenty eighth, It is Black Friday. 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:10.520 And did you get out in this mess today? Did 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:13.680 you get out and get a good deal today? And 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.880 how did it go for you? Because for us it 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.119 was pretty dark and depressing. And with that, welcome to 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:21.759 this episode of Amy TJ. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:22.280 Robes. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.560 We went out, we were in a good mood. We 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.720 were looking forward to this. Of course, in a word, 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:34.040 or maybe a couple words, how would you describe the atmosphere, 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:38.440 the mood of this official kickoff to the Christmas shopping season. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:39.600 Intense chaos? 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:44.479 Okay, yeah, it was intense. Chaos is one thing. There 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:48.479 was an intensity to today that took me by surprise 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:50.640 and made me want to leave the place. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:51.680 Here's the deal. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:58.720 We love Black Friday shopping, Yes, we love outlet malls. Yeah, 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:03.000 and we have combined the too. But today we took 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:08.280 on the juggernaut. We took on probably one of the biggest, 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:15.200 most well known outlet malls in the country and one 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:19.039 that we've gone to countless times over the years, even together, 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.560 but we've never gone to that particular outlet mall on 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:24.880 this particular day. 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.080 So you're saying are bad, So you think you think 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:28.320 we made a bad call today. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:32.000 Well, I think we took something we loved at a 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.640 time we loved doing it and put them together and 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:39.480 didn't recognize that it could be a potential disaster. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.880 Okay, we're talking about different things. Okay, a couple of 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:47.040 different things. I can deal with some traffic, sitting waiting, 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:55.880 long lines, crowds. I felt a mood to today that 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:01.080 I found no joy in anybody so us for them 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:05.960 all overwhelmingly there was no joy. I didn't under I 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.560 was really perpleased. I mentioned it to you all the 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:13.120 entire time we were there. What is what is today's different? 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.240 So we went to Woodbury Commons in harrim And, New York, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:18.240 and it is. 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:19.760 It's incredible. 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:24.040 Yes, the stores they have, the quality of the products 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.240 they have, and the pricing they're giving it to us 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.440 for was all remarkable. You know where I found the joy, baby, 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.320 I know what you're saying. I'm listening in the folks 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.760 who were working. Really every cashier that we went up 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:41.360 to was actually really kind, really sweet. And I will 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:47.320 say we chose stores mainly that didn't have the roping 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.040 and like people weren't waiting forever to get into. We 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.280 chose places that weren't as like the high end have 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.560 to go into stores that had lines. So maybe the 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.560 people who were working at the stores we went into 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.320 were a little bit less irritated because they weren't as overwhelmed. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.880 You found joy in the people that were working there 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:11.440 and those who were only maybe five people you came 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.040 in contact with the rest of the time. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:14.560 I do. 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.160 For whatever reason, it wasn't just amount of crowds. I've 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.880 been around crowds, and I've been in basketball and games 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.640 and in arenas. There are crowds that people can still 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.000 be upbeat and you can feel a particular mood. The 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:33.960 mood amongst everybody was one not of joy, of giving, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:39.240 of the season of fun. Even it was a mission 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.320 and intensity. You get out of my way, I will 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.600 run over you to get where I got to get. 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:49.920 There was a disregard for everything and everybody around that 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:55.119 shopper today in a way that I've found troubling. I've 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.920 been out. You know, I love going on Black Friday 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.920 and I love going on Christmas Eve. See the chaos 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.240 it felt like mean today? 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:05.720 You know what? 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.320 So it's so funny you were use the word mission. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.560 That is exactly what I was going to say. People 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.320 were on a mission. And some people might have been 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.880 on a mission to check off their Christmas list, okay, 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.880 but I think we saw a lot of this. People 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.919 were on a mission to buy up all the product, 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:28.080 almost as a as a business, to then go home 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.280 and resell it at a higher price. People brought suitcases, 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.640 like not just like a carry on luggage, but like 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:40.080 multiple suitcases that you would pack and check into your 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.600 airport because you were going on a month long vacation suitcase. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.120 Okay, they had two of how many of that? Did 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:46.440 you see? 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.560 You cut all these crowds and you have all these 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:53.680 people carrying massive suitcases, and they are buying with intensity 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.440 and just a veracity. They're not buying gifts for themselves. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:01.640 They're not thinking about cousin, you know, Stella. No, they 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.080 were buying in volume for the biggest discounts. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:06.080 They were going. 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.400 Mostly to the higher end stores, and you know they're 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.520 going back home and putting this stuff up on eBay. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.039 That's the stuff that bothers me. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:18.120 I offer being a businessman or woman and living in 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:22.080 this capitalistic consumerism fine and profiting off of it as 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.680 your side hustle, But you take away the purpose and 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.000 the fun of this holiday when you're sitting there elbowing 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.480 people so you can get your business march ready to go. 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.680 Okay, that didn't cross my mind in the midst of it. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.320 Saw fine, but that didn't cross my mind. But if 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.120 that's what they're doing, that's what they're doing. They have 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.400 the right to do that. Everybody has the right to 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.800 do everything they were doing at that place today. The 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.720 thing is, it makes me not want to be there 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.640 during the holiday season. I know, it just didn't feel good. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.680 We love Woodberry Commons and we love Black Friday shopping, 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.760 so we go all the way up to do all that, 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.800 and then we came back to the city so much 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.040 it's rare that you would say that it was so 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:03.839 much calmer. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.279 Oh, it was so much more pleasant. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.159 And you looked at me when we came back to 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.680 the city and we went to a mall nearby and 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.039 it was about I don't know, twenty percent of the 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.400 crowds that were at Woodbury Commons, and he looked at 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.560 me and he said, yeah, this is more my speed. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.600 It was when do. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.200 You ever go some When I was like, wow, I 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.560 cannot wait to get back to New York City, so 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.240 that was where people are friendly. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.839 Yes, actually that was the truth. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.520 So on the drive out, I was like, oh, it's 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.960 so nice to get out of the city. I was 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.200 looking at the mountains because I have to say, if 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.520 you've never been to Woodbury Commons, it's in It's in Harriman, 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.680 New York. It's near a gorgeous town called New Paul's, 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.240 New York. And the scenery, I mean, this is a 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:55.080 it's actually a really really beautifully architecturally well done outlet mall, 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:59.279 outdoor mall, and it set and nestled around these gorgeous 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.320 mountains to Shawn Mountains, which are the foothills of the Catskills. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.839 It's just gorgeous, and so it's kind of it's just 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.240 a really pleasant thing to do. I've never been there 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.680 and felt more stressed being there getting back into the 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.720 city and feeling like my shoulders relaxed and I felt 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.000 like I could breathe again when I got back to 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:20.480 the city. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.080 But that actually is what happened. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:22.800 It was a relief. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:23.720 That's so funny. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.320 And we can tell me it's Brookville Place right the 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.440 place we go to. I think by now it's. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:29.160 The gorgeous mall. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:30.120 We talk about it enough. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.200 We live in this part of the city, so this 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.720 is right up the road from us. But it was 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.280 a different scene and it was a different tone. I 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.400 just didn't expect it today. But I don't know what 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.120 the rest of you all did today. But this is 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.680 how our day started. Now, we got the girls in 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.040 the house with us. The mall opens at six am. 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:54.280 It's about a one hour drive from us with light traffic. 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.400 So we tell them yesterday that we're going to leave 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:02.920 at seven am. Now, the reaction from a nineteen and. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:09.480 A twenty three year old wasn't great. They were like, what, what? Why? 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.800 Why do we have to leave at seven That's what 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:13.320 they asked. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.320 Okay, so we we yes, fine, we're paying for this stuff. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.680 You're gonna get your butts in the car at seven am, 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.840 and they did, yeah, yeah, there's no problems. So we 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:23.560 take off and as soon as we get in the car, 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.400 it showed it's going to be a one hour drive. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.240 It didn't take too long before that changed to a 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.000 one hour and thirty minute drive, and then a one 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:36.120 hour and forty minute drive. But here's a thing. The 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:40.000 added time was only robes. What with like in the 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:43.360 two miles around the mall. 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.800 We actually didn't get into the heavy traffic until point 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:51.640 eight miles from Woodbury Commons, so we actually sped no 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.720 traffic amazing all. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.320 The way through. If you guys are familiar. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:59.439 Seventeen eighty seven, just sail it up to Woodbury Commons 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.040 and then when you we had to take an exit 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.560 early to try to avoid the off ramp which apparently 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.880 was way backed up, so we were going even in 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.360 the back way around to get to Woodbury Comments. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:09.640 And we get to zero. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:14.160 Point eight miles from Woodbury Comments. I kept saying we 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.840 should walk, we should walk. It was crazy traffic with 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.800 massive highways coming in, so it wasn't possible to do so. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:25.120 But yes, we spent what thirty minutes creeping point eight miles. 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:25.520 Looking at them all. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.920 Essentially we could see it for thirty minutes and couldn't 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:30.679 get to it. So this is how it started. So 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:35.160 we get out and get going. Soon as we get there, 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.280 of course, somebody has to pee and somebody needs to 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:38.880 get something to eat. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.080 Yeah, so typical. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:44.680 It doesn't matter what age the kids get, it's the 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.280 same scenario as if we were they were two years old, 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:48.559 when they were ten years old. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.040 It's always the twenty three year. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.559 Old told me she was hungry at least four times, right. 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.719 I was like, yeah, I heard you the first three 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:56.560 times you said that. 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.200 So we get here and we get going. Now, you 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.360 and I have done a lot of Outlin mall shopping. 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.640 Today is the first time I think we had an 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:08.760 extended period of splitting. Yes, we had to split because 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.800 you had girls and you know, I had girls shopping. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.200 We didn't have all day to be there, so. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.280 No, we knew that the crowds were gonna get even worse. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.560 So we were like, we have limited time, and You're like, babe, 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.960 I gotta go my way. You gotta go your way 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.280 because and that Actually I didn't like that very much. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.200 I actually really enjoy shopping with you, and I was 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:28.400 sad to not be next to you. 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.520 Oh same, Oh. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.360 Yeah, you forgot to say that, But no, no problem, 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:36.559 I get it. I totally believe you. 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.520 And also were bouncing around there today. And it's an 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.559 outland mall, so it's outdoor walking. It's freezing today. 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:43.720 Oh my god, so was it not? 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.920 So the window I didn't even tell you fully, the 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.640 wind was up there. It was like twenty two. It 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.560 was and it felt twenty and it was twenty two. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.400 I knew if I told you ahead of time, you 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:55.400 might cancel the trip. 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:03.679 I kept that to myself, Okay, So I there just 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.559 didn't find and it was worse once we bought a 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:07.040 couple of things. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.800 I was carrying bags. You just couldn't move for the 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:10.319 most part. 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.680 But it was I had and you're right, I did 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.200 have positive interactions with several people at several stores. Been 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.800 out of republic. Love y'all, Reese, y'all the best, Justin 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.160 and Crewe in there, Camilla, y'all are fantastic, right they were. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.360 They were amazing and so kind. 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.760 Ye love them, appreciate all of them. But I did 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.160 all day find, like you said, a mission, Like there 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.960 was an intense mission that people were on. It wasn't 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.080 about I don't even know if it was saving money. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.040 It felt like it was more like you said, about 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.360 making money, or it was it more. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:42.200 About what it was for me. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.920 It was just an intensity to the day. And I know, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.520 I mean, we saw lines at some stores that didn't 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:49.240 make sense. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.880 At north Face Uggs, I mean, I know, yes, okay, 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.960 those are fun gifts, but it was the lines were 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:00.600 not anything that. I don't think a reasonable person would 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.920 be willing to wait in twenty two degree weather. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.440 And see here's for like an extended period of time. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.560 And see here's the other thing I thought about there, 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.760 what if we are? What does this tell us anything 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.160 about where we are that you have to do this 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.040 in order to save any dime you can to get 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.640 anything of quality. Perhaps because this is where we are, 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.480 the uncertainty that we always have, and right we just 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.480 went through a shut down. Is this now you have 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.920 to be willing to do these types of sacrifices to 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.800 save whatever buck you can. I don't know if that 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.520 was a reflection, but today wasn't about the joy of 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.800 the holiday season at. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.719 All, at least not until we got I felt the 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.600 joy moral. When we got back to the city we 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:44.600 saw an old friend. 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:45.960 It actually was a lot. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.439 We were like, wait, maybe we should never have even 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.000 uh an old friend. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:51.240 We saw an old friend when. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.480 We got back to the city in Brookfield Place and 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.920 Jay Crew. See the thing is oh yes, sorry, sorry, 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.839 I tried to go to Jay Crew. It would very 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.040 commons And it's funny. We actually all found stuff. We 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.640 all had clothing that you were considering something. Ava had 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.480 several items. Annalyse finally said, I scored. I found this 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.920 thing with the line was so I was like, you 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:12.560 know what, let's see if it moves quickly, I'll give 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.680 it a beat. Anna and I went to go stand 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.720 in it. Five minutes later, we had not moved once. 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.559 We were coiled around the store, and I thought, you 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.360 know what sad to say, but we are. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.280 We can't, we can't wait in this line any longer. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.560 And we just had to put the stuff back and leave, 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.160 come all the way back to the city and find 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.319 that the J Crew here actually had the same sale. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:36.280 Yes, fifty percent off. Actually it was a great sale. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.040 Lovely, lovely time in Ja Crew and we actually, yes, 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:39.960 we got to see an old friend. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.680 It all worked out. That was my That was the 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.800 standard in every store. I look at the line first, 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.640 at the register, and I say, is there anything in 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.880 this store that line? 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.240 Yes? And usually no. 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.520 And I know that in just one three hundred and 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:59.360 sixty degree turn. All right, folks, now Black Friday. We've 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.880 been calling it the Black Friday. It spawned Cyber Monday 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:03.960 and all kinds. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.000 Of Giving Tuesday. 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:06.840 And isn't there a small business Saturday. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.320 And yes, all this so you think you know what 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.960 black Friday is and where it came from, right when 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:18.800 businesses go into the black That ain't actually the story. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.880 Stay here, we'll tell you the true origins of a 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:34.520 black Friday. All right, folks, we continue here on this 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:40.000 Black Friday, which was one of the most memorable we're 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.360 going to have, but one I would like to forget. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:48.320 You know what's funny I was reading today CNBC basically, well, 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.040 they wrote this story and they definitely were not where 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.280 we were at Wouldbury Commons because they said, well, black 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:58.840 Friday has long been defined by massive crowds, rock bottom prices, 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:03.280 rabid concerers, biting and scratching and clawing their way to 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.600 the best deals of the seasons. But they're saying this 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.840 now today foot traffic is flat, online shopping is up, 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.240 and consumers are weary. That is not what we saw 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.800 at Woodbury Comments today. We saw exactly what they said 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.200 black Friday used to be. We saw if that's the 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.080 olden days back man, everybody should just go straight to 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:28.520 Woodbury Commons because that description is exactly what we saw today. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.920 But they're suggesting that more so in a lot of 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.000 places that not as many people are going in Curs 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.040 Store anymore now. 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.320 So we will say last year, we actually and this 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.360 is where we were kind of taken aback this year. 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:43.440 Last year we ended up renting a house out east 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.200 on Long Island because we didn't have a place where 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.800 everybody could gather, and so we knew that there was 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:54.040 It was the Tanger Outlets. 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.240 Somewhere I don't forgot somewhere. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.040 It was somewhere in West Hampton and somewhere in the 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.720 southern part of the Hampton's and we went last year 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.960 and there were crowds, but we were surprised at how 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:08.920 we were expecting a more robust turnout and it was tame. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.200 So then we were just fooled into thinking we would 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:16.600 have the same experience going too and that was just 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:17.560 so foolish of us. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.480 And you know what, lesson learned. I don't think we 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.560 will repeat ever what we did this year. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:27.320 We'll drive further to the Tanger Outlets to avoid what 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:28.119 we experienced. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.280 But yeah, that was like almost I actually had. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:36.320 The scene from Thanksgiving in my head because people were like, 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:40.640 we left at around eleven forty five am and things 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.920 were getting so bad. This is a large outdoor mall 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:48.440 with a large, wide pedet you could not get through 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.920 if you were holding backs without like getting hit. 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.720 It was it. My daughters were both like, I'm having 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:58.680 social anxiety right now. I said, I actually am too. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.360 And let's the reserve space this. There are folks that 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:05.160 could be listening, say yeah, it's just y'all's first time 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.600 going on Black Friday. It's like this every single year. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:09.800 Nothing has changed. 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.440 We've been in other places, I just never and we love. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.959 I've been going to Woodberry Commons for like twenty years, 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:20.080 but this was the wildest experience I've had. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.240 They might tell you it's like this every single year, 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.480 nothing new, So it was nothing new this year in 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.720 a different mood with Nope, this is just what happens 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:34.000 there every year. The thing black Friday, we I think 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.159 most people would tell that story right. The reason they 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.400 call it black Friday is it's the day that retailers 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:41.480 go into the black. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.520 Ava asked me what Black Friday was, and I gave 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.400 her that exact definition because I thought I. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.800 Was right, Well, you are. 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.639 Based on what retailers have been telling us for the 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.440 past fifty plus years. Wow, but that is not where 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.760 the story came from. I did not know this, of 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.560 course at all, but this goes back to the nineteen fifties. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.040 It had nothing to do with shopping and getting into 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:13.240 the Red and Black anything else. Philadelphia are good friends 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:18.080 in Philadelphia. The annual Army Navy game that would take 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:22.400 place in Philly the day after on the weekend of Thanksgiving. 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.440 It would draw so many people into the city from 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.320 the suburbs, so they would come in to do their shopping, 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:33.200 they would come in to see the game. It created 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:40.960 a riotous atmosphere for police. They hated, hated having to 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:45.120 work the day after Thanksgiving. They started calling it their 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:46.840 black Friday. 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.760 Okay, I've never heard that story ever in my. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.080 Mind, neither have I. So it wasn't just so. Yes, 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.960 it involved some shoplifting because people were taking advantage of 0:18:58.040 --> 0:18:59.760 the people coming in to do the shopping, but so 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:03.480 much much of the I guess the riot this atmosphere 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:04.840 had to do with people just coming in to kick 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.040 it and have a good time at the game. But 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.199 police hated it. They kept being called black Friday, Black Friday, 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.879 Black Friday. So then retailers in the nineteen sixties and 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:14.879 the night Oh excuse me, nineteen eighties, they tried to 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.119 move forward and try to we got to take this 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.720 negative connotation off of it. So how can we do that? 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:25.160 They started pumping the story that you gave Ava that 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.399 this is when we're trying to get into the black. 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:30.639 Because we've been in the red up until now, we 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.640 haven't been able to be profitable. But now when people 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:37.000 start spending for the holidays, we finally get in the black. 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:41.560 So that day represents, yes, the day that retailers and 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.160 small business owners actually start turning a benefit and they're 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:45.840 in the black. 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.640 There you go, Wow, who knew I more? You know? Right? 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:54.000 And that is that's that actually blows my mind because 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:57.639 I think about for the last thirty years covering Black 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.840 Friday as a journalist, and I have sold that story 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:06.160 to every single community I've ever served, and I've told 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:11.120 them the Black Friday story that apparently was all b Yes. 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:17.600 Because obviously retailers make money at points other points of 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:22.600 the year, and traditionally, Chris no excuse me, the Saturday 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:28.960 before Christmas is often a bigger retail day than Black Friday. 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:33.280 And that makes sense the Saturday before Christmas day, yes. 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.400 Because we all procrastinates. 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:37.000 So that's your last chance to get out. But yes, 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:39.320 that's often a bigger day makes sense there, It is. 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.720 The more you know, the more you know. 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.440