1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: I am all inlets you This Isn't Old Man Music 2 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson everything You've ever wanted to know about 3 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: the music of Gilmore Girls. Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, imall 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: and Podcasts One of Love Productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart podcast 5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: We are beginning a new segment called This Isn't Old 6 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Man Music, and our very first guest Episode one is 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: the one and only iconic Grammy winning Sister Sledge. We 8 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: have Camille Sledge and we have Debbie. How you doing, 9 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Debbie and Camille, thank you for joining us. 10 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: Hi. 11 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: Sister Sledge is blasted and honor to have provided the 12 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: soundtrack to Countless Lives. Hailing from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the great 13 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: state of Sisters, Debbie, Joni, Kathy and Kim became household 14 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: names and a symbol of unity with their nineteen seventy 15 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: nine worldwide smash it an iconic album, We Are Family, 16 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: or better known as We. 17 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: Are Family all Right, All. 18 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: My sisters and me. Jony unfortunately passed away in twoenty nineteen. 19 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: God Rest her Soul. The multi lead vocal group were 20 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: responsible for some of the biggest dance anthems of all time. 21 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Lost in music. He's the Greatest Dancer and Thinking of 22 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: You are universally cherished songs that bring people together in love, 23 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: life and a very very soulful groove. Sister Sledge has 24 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: performed on some of the world's most prestigious stages and 25 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: this is impressive. Listen up including Carnegie Hall, Madison Square Garden, 26 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: London's Royal Albert Hall, glaston Berry's iconic Pyramid Stage. Wow, 27 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: that must have been some experience, as they have also 28 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: performed for the Clintons at the White House and even 29 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: before the Honorable Pope Francis himself during the twenty fifteen 30 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: World Meeting of Families in Philadelphia, PA, the Great State 31 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: of Over the years, the Family Group was a massive 32 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: string of gold and platinum HiT's, generating total sales of 33 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: over twenty million worldwide and earning hundreds of awards and commendations, 34 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: including Grammy nominations for Record of the Year, Best R 35 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: and B Duover Group, Best Produced CD for Joni SLID's 36 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: works on their Africa Eye's album. Their worldwide anthem We 37 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: Are Family, was entered into the prestigious Library of Congress 38 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seventeen. Ladies welcome, just so honored 39 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: to have you. Your music has been such a part 40 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: of the soundtrack of my life. I specifically remember the 41 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates run what was in nineteen seventy nine and 42 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: they adopted that song in their clubhouse and they won 43 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: the whole ball of wax. 44 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having us. 45 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: You've touched so many people's lives, even making your songs 46 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: onto shows like Gilmore Girls. What's it like to see 47 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: your music still living in the pop culture atmosphere and 48 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: television all these years later. 49 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: It's amazing. I think we're all we're all amazed and 50 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: thrilled that you know that song that God has used 51 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: us in such a powerful way too, and that song 52 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: just keeps going and that just keeps us amazed, and 53 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: the audiences are still so alive, and so there's just 54 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: a great energy every time we perform that song. And yeah, 55 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: so we're very thrilled. And you know, even now we're 56 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: working with the second generation Sister Sledge. So this is 57 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Camille my daughter, Camille Sledge, my daughter, and we are 58 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: performing as Sisters Ledge featuring Slegendary, so that you have 59 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: a whole new other surge of Sister's Ledge coming along. 60 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: I'm so very proud second generation. 61 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: Just like Gillmore Girls, it just doesn't stop. It keeps 62 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: getting bigger and better. When Laurel, I and Rory joke 63 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: about being like we are family in season three, it 64 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 1: really shows how that song has become part of everyday language. 65 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: But did you ever manage? 66 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: Do you? 67 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Do you ever imagine it would grow into such a 68 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: cultural phenomenon. 69 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: We had no idea, Damil, did you I have no idea? 70 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: Camille actually grew up when that song was first coming out. 71 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: I remember you just being my mom. 72 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: I'm at home, I'm like, oh, this is on the video. 73 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: My mom thinks that most kids thought I was lying. 74 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: And then you know, we would just dance to it 75 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,039 Speaker 3: and that was it. 76 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: Well, take us back to the beginning. How did the 77 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: four sisters from Philadelphia first aside de formacy group? 78 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: Was? 79 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: It was the music always in the house? 80 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: Growing up, music was always in the house. I mean 81 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: we had aunts and uncles. That's saying we found a 82 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: bunch of and my mom early in our lives, we 83 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: moved to a house that had a bunch of jazz 84 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: records left in the basement and we were we That's 85 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: my first, uh introduction to the world of jazz. So 86 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: we have and we have so many genres of music 87 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: that we've been exposed to, and we love all kinds 88 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: of music. We just love all kinds of music. So 89 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: we started out as just singing for fun, just the 90 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: four of us singing, and we've we learned that we 91 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: could harmonize very early. My sister Carol there are you know, 92 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: there are actually five sisters. My sister Carol actually started 93 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: us out playing around, you know, pretending to be a 94 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: singing group. And that was fun. You know, she had 95 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: us singing her background. 96 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: So what do you think? What do you think of 97 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: your biggest musical influences where when you were just starting out, 98 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: what were they or growing up? 99 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: Of course on the Philly Sound, there was some great 100 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: music coming out of Philly. And there's some iconic artists 101 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: out of Philly. There's there's Patty LaBelle, let's see. I 102 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: was also I love Choka Khan. I don't know if 103 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: she's from Philly, but she often came to Yeah, she 104 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 2: often came to Philly. These are iconic artists that there 105 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: was every They could do everything with their voices and 106 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: they just moved people and you know, and you could 107 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: see the power, not only the power, but the passion 108 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: with which they sang. They were giving of themselves, and 109 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: that's one of the great things that we learned. Just 110 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: give what you have, freely, give it, and everybody's going 111 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: to enjoy the way you're enjoying it. Yeah, and that's 112 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: why I'm also teaching these guys my kids. Our group 113 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: is now we have Jonie's son, Thaddeus. Joni passed away 114 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, and we have her son who is 115 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: a powerhouse singer. He's a powerhouse like his mom, and 116 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: he's honoring her the way he's performing. And then there's 117 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: my son David, and of course my daughter Camille. And 118 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: then there's Miss Tanya Tia, who is she's a slegendary 119 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: sister because she's been with us for a long time. 120 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: She was with us when Joanie was singing with us. 121 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: And all of them are powerhouses. So I am more 122 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: having fun than I am working when I'm performing with. 123 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: Them, and we have these great mentors, you know, right. 124 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: But let's talk a little bit about that Philly sound. 125 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: I think it's sort of not getting its due in 126 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: the business. I know a lot of musicians, you know, 127 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: David Bowie and Springsteen and a lot of big names 128 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: come to Philly to get that sound. They you know, 129 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: they go to Detroit, obviously they go. But Philly is 130 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: one of the unsung heroes in the soul and rhythm 131 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: and blues ocean that people are dipping into. It doesn't 132 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: really get the credit that it should, right, I mean, 133 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: it's a phenomenally influential sound. 134 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: I agree, there's something very very unique about Philly and 135 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: Philly artists, the Philly musicians, Philly artists. One of the 136 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: things that I think is unique is the that it's real. 137 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: It's really. Yeah, they're giving something that they have that, 138 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: you know, something of themselves that is real. I don't 139 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: know a lot of a lot of music is today 140 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: to me in comparison, is in some cases contrived. But 141 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: and I'm not I'm not putting it down because you know, 142 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: it's beautiful music, it's great. But there's something about that, 143 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: the music that's coming from the real you. 144 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Right, the way it's, the way it's made, the way 145 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: it's recorded, the way it's. 146 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, there's something soulful about it. 147 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: It can't be duplicated because you're getting real. 148 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: Let's get everybody in the same room and just light 149 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: it up right, capture that. Yeah, I don't do that anymore. Yeah, yeah, 150 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: Well every band has to pay its dos, right. Do 151 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: you remember one of the toughest gigs you played in 152 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: the early days and how it helped to shape you. 153 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: Well, it's tough working with sisters, I'll say that because everybody, 154 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: you know, we're all we're all fully Yeah, my sisters are. 155 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: They're they're so talented, and they're they're so strong. We 156 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: have a We grew up in a house of strong women. 157 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: I know. We had no brothers. Okay, my mom, uh, 158 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: she kind of raised us by herself when we was 159 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: from a very young age. I mean my parents separated early, 160 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: but she had a lot to deal with because women 161 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: are girls. You have a young lady, you have a 162 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: young girl. Girls are harder to raise than boys. Boys. Okay, 163 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: you can you can predict, but girls are unpredictable. So 164 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: we had some very strong, willed women, very creative. All 165 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: have their ideas of what the music should be. So 166 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: rehearsals would take longer because everybody's idea had to be heard. 167 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: But it paid off, you know, it paid off, right, 168 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: And so I would say, right now, I'm experiencing something 169 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: different than I have been, which is joy. There's just 170 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: so much joy. Everybody's so happy to be doing what 171 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: they're doing. And we were under the pressure to be perfect, 172 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: you know, we felt like we have to do this perfect. 173 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: We were new at this, we were doing it for fun, 174 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, we have to do that. 175 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: We're doing this with pay. It's like, yeah, on on 176 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: a scale that, Okay, somebody has hired us to do something, 177 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: so we really want to do it well, we really 178 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: want to please them, we really want to please the audience, 179 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: and we still have that, but we don't have that pressure. 180 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 3: Story though. 181 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say that, Okay, missed flights, missing luggage, 182 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: you know, all kinds of really want like crazy stuff. 183 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's It's just like, this is gonna be tough, 184 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: it's gonna be I heard stories and it's fun. I mean, 185 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: it's still something that I choose to do even still. 186 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about your first record deal. You remember that 187 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: day when you get your first record deal. How excited 188 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: you were. 189 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we we we've been in shotgut since we went 190 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: in and did a did a an audition and just 191 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: a cold audition. We just sang a cappella in front 192 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: of a record executive and the next thing we knew 193 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: we were hired, and that's like wow wow. And they 194 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: put us with producers of course, you know, and we 195 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: had some great producers and really very talented producers, but 196 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: it was all music that whenever we heard the music, 197 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: it was like, Okay, we want to do this the 198 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: very best we can possibly do this. So we'd learned 199 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: everything as much as we could learn stay time in 200 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: the studio. We knew studio was costing money, but when 201 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: we met Nile and Bernard, it was totally different. We 202 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: didn't know what the songs were. We had never heard 203 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: the tracks. We stepped into the studio and we'd learned 204 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: the song right there. And that was their way of 205 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: producing it was they wanted it fresh, wanted it, you know, 206 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: us hearing it for the first time. They wanted the 207 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 2: fresh recording of this new song, which great, a great, 208 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: a great way of producing. So my mom had the 209 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: she had the job of protecting these four young girls. 210 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: So all of a sudden she became a manager and 211 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: that was something. But we had an it was an adventure. 212 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: The whole time has been an adventure. So we had 213 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: we were put together with producers, we had to she 214 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: found lawyers that could help us with contracts. But it 215 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: was all very new to us and a huge adventure 216 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: we had. We were put together with different producers. They 217 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 2: all had their different ways of producing, so we learned 218 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: a lot through all that experience. And of course one 219 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: of the most challenging, I guess and most successful would 220 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: be probably the Sheik organization with Nile and Bernard very different. 221 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: We weren't used to their way of producing, but it 222 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: paid off. 223 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: You're talking about Niles Rogers and Bernard Edwards. 224 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, wow, giants, Yeah, giants. 225 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: Before the microphone cut out, she was saying that they 226 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: always used to rehearse and have the music beforehand, right, 227 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: And then you're saying when they finally got with Nile 228 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: and Bernard, their production their producing style was that they 229 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: couldn't hear the songs first. 230 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: That that was interesting. 231 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: Because the mic must have cut out on that bar, 232 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: because that was interesting to me. And then they had 233 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: to hear it for the first time when they got 234 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: to the studio. 235 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: Not like that it was difficult, right, but that it 236 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: was different. It was different and so it was it 237 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: was their way of coming up with a very fresh 238 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: sounding performance from the artist, which would you love that 239 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to really meat? 240 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they trusted their initial instincts in the moment 241 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: and they went with that's that's great. Yeah, it's kind 242 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: of Rick Rubenesque if you get the rest, if you 243 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: get the reference. But Camille, what was it like watching 244 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: your mom and her sister build such a strong cultural 245 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: family presence together? 246 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: Oh? It was. It was beautiful. 247 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: I'm also thrilled to watch all of these strong women 248 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: in my family. You know, they discontinue a legacy for 249 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: decades after decades, I. 250 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: Was always so. 251 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: In awe of watching them on stage to where it 252 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: became my dream as well. 253 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: I was like, I want to be just like you. 254 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: And then it was you gotta read this book called 255 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 3: The Business of Music. It's like this big read it, 256 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: then you can be a singer. I'm like, oh, I 257 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 3: tried to read it, but I think I fell asleep 258 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: on top of it and ruled on the pages. But 259 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 3: I tried, But that book is still lingering in my 260 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: life to this day. 261 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: Anyway, it changed a lot, and I think you know 262 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: a lot. 263 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 3: More well, glad that you told me that, because I 264 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 3: started to pay more attention to the business side. I 265 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: think instead of saying, oh, I'm an artist. 266 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: You know, show show business. 267 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but smart women. 268 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: We are Family is I mean, it's so much more 269 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: than a hit record. It's an anthem. Let's just call 270 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: it that. What it is. What do you think it 271 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: is about that song that makes it timeless across generations? 272 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 3: The message? 273 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that message and the fact that it's simple, simple truth. 274 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 2: M h. Everyone can relate to those words. Yeah, and 275 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: it's easy to Yeah. 276 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: I got all my sisters and me. I mean it's there, 277 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: it is. We are family. I got all my sisters 278 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: in me. Boom done. What a what a hook? 279 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 280 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: What a hu. So when was the first time you 281 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: heard the song on the radio? Your first song? What 282 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: was your first song? When was the first time you 283 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: heard it on the radio? Do you remember that? 284 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: Okay, so I will say that the most Well, the 285 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: first time we saw and I actually saw an album 286 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: was a huge thrill. Okay, just just oh here it is. 287 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: But the first time that we actually heard we Are Family. 288 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: That really stands out is we're listening to it on 289 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: the radio in Germany and they are. They are recording. 290 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: There's a live recording of the Pittsburgh Pirates, you know, 291 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: the game, and the whole audience is singing, we are 292 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: family and they and the announcer is saying, I can't 293 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: believe this. The entire audience is singing, we are family 294 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: and we were a made We were in a taxi 295 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: listening to it on the radio. It's like, oh wow, 296 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: that really impressed us. It really that was so exciting 297 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: for us. 298 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: Let me take you back to this. Let me take 299 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: you back to the studio when you're creating that song. 300 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: Are you in there with Niles and Bernard when you're 301 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: creating that song? 302 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so studio I love. 303 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: To talk about this type of stuff. Did you know 304 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: it was going to be a big song? Did Niles 305 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: and Bernard just go, Wow, we've got something here and 306 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: you and they played it back and you you know, 307 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: you heard it a million times and pieces in a 308 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: whole and you know, and a second part of the questions, 309 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: did you ever get sick of hearing the song in 310 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: the studio? But let's let's take the first part of that. 311 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: Did you know that it was and I know you 312 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: knew his sisters Wow, this is good stuff. You don't know. 313 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: You can't predict how it's gonna you know, the marketplace 314 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: is gonna accept it. But did you know you had something? 315 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: Did everybody know? 316 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: No, everybody didn't know. I believe that Now and Bernard 317 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: knew what they were doing. And but they were new, 318 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 2: new producers. They were new producers coming out, and they 319 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: probably didn't know what to do with these four sisters. 320 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: They were like they were. We were assigned to them 321 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: from the record company because they had new they had 322 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: new artists, and so they had these new producers, so 323 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: they were putting, you know, putting things together. When we 324 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: met Nile and Bernard, they had these great tracks. They 325 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: were also working on their Chic their own album coming out, 326 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: so they were also still figuring out which tracks are 327 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: we going to use for this group and which tracks 328 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: are we going to use for our own album. So 329 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: we we got a chance to hear some of the 330 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: great tracks that are now on the Chic album as 331 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: far as we Are Family goes. We heard this great 332 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: this great track, but there were no there was no 333 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: singing on it. And in the studio, I believe that 334 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: Nile and Bernard were writing as they went, so I 335 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: believe that we are Family is actually a true picture 336 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: of what they were seeing in the studio from this 337 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: family group of sisters, and they're so simple. We are family. 338 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: Have got all my sisters with me. Everyone can see 339 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: where together as we walk on by don cute. That's 340 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: you know, that's such a happy, truthful song. And and 341 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: we were also learning the melodies as we went. You know, 342 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: one of the things that my younger sister Kathy says 343 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: is Nil and Bernard are not singers, so so they're 344 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: they're trying to give us what they're singing, and we're 345 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: trying to hear a tone in it, which was funny, 346 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: which was funny. But I think that you know, especially 347 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: on those lead vocals, Kathy did an awesome job. She 348 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: did an awesome job, and we're all we're all very 349 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: proud of the project, very happy with it, and we 350 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: had no idea. I think they were shocked as to 351 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: how far that song has gone. I remember doing some 352 00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: television shows with Nylon Bernard and we could see them 353 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: like on the side stage and they look like they 354 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: shock and how how worldwide this song was going. Right, 355 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: So and that's that's that's a that's a story that 356 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 2: just makes me smile. 357 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: So every time you play it live, and since the 358 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: song was recorded and you start performing it live, do 359 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: you see a perceptible change in the audience's energy and engagement, 360 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: Not that they aren't already like into it already, but. 361 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: I think yes, I see the audience is very genuine, 362 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: genuinely people are having fun and they know the song 363 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: and they're they're singing the top of their lungs. There 364 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: is no holding back. This is a song I know, 365 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: this is my song. 366 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can sing every word. 367 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there is no holding back. 368 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: Did you ever step back from the microphone and just 369 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: let the audience sing part of the song? 370 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: Definitely exactly what we do. And the music even our 371 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: band knows to cut off so they can hear themselves 372 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: and they just get louder. So it's just awesome. And 373 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: we're still doing that to this day. And it's just 374 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: so Yeah. 375 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: So many of your songs like Lost in Music, thinking 376 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: of you, He's the greatest dancer. They're still popular day. 377 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: You feel the same energy performing them now as you 378 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: did in the late seventies and eighties. 379 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: Always, and we've had so many memories that goes with that, 380 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: you know, like my sister Jelly, she was the lead 381 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: singer for Lost in Music, and every time we performed 382 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 2: that song, it just brings back good feelings that we 383 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: can just remember all that she was to us and 384 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: all that she brought to us and all that she 385 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: brought to the audience, and now we have her so 386 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: on that is singing with us, and thadd is, yeah, yeah. 387 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 3: You can tell me what does this nice little like 388 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: He'll talk to the audience about who his mom was 389 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: and say, you know that she has the best seat 390 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: in the place tonight, you know, and I'm going to 391 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: do my best. 392 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: To honor her. 393 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: She's up and having And then he says, I have one. 394 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: Question for you. 395 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 3: You know, it gets all quiet and everybody's like, oh 396 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 3: my gosh. 397 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: He goes, are you ready to get Lost in Music 398 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: in the band? 399 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 3: Not then? And so he is absolutely, he's absolutely a 400 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 3: performer just like she was. I mean, he commands the audience. 401 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: He's a very strong boy, just like his mom. Yeah 402 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: it's awesome all that energy is there. Yeah, it's just beautiful. 403 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: Here's a question, Uh, if you could give advice to 404 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: your younger selves just starting out as sister Sledge, what 405 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: would it be? 406 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me. 407 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: Okay, well I've been trying to. I've been trying to. 408 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: I've been trying to teach them that from from day one. 409 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: Well no, well for now, the main thing is be 410 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: true to yourself. Really find what is what is yours 411 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 2: and give that and share that freely. And what I 412 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 2: mean by that is you're not holding back because you 413 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: have a gift, and that gift is for sharing, forgiving, 414 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: and enjoy yourself because all of us have the individual 415 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: we have. We have all we all have gifts, but 416 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: we won't if we don't share them. We're not going 417 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: to bless others. Others are are going to be blessed 418 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: by your sharing what you have. And we're learning this 419 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: all your unique gifts. You know, you can't be true 420 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: to Yeah, you can't copy someone. You can learn from someone, 421 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: but you have to find out what what is it 422 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: that you have to give and then develop that. I 423 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 2: think that was Joey's gift too. 424 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so simple and it's so powerful because you 425 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: know it's as a you know, I write a lot 426 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: of songs and I used to perform and all that, 427 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: and you find trying to find your voice. And you 428 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 1: know where my voice sits, and you know what I 429 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: do best, it's just blues. 430 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: Well really that's powerful. 431 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: I can do other types. I just I struggle a 432 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: little bit with it, and I take vocal lessons and 433 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: strengthen my muscles in my throat, the whole thing. You 434 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: go through that every day. I know how it works 435 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: to go on tour and the whole thing. You've got 436 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: to really have that strong voice and sustain it. But 437 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: it's it's my voice. It's in the blues, and that's 438 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: where I can have fun and be free. 439 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 440 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 3: And once you learn that, find it right, it's like 441 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: Goya all this time there it is. 442 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 2: Write me too. 443 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 4: I'm like what do I say? 444 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: So, you know, you finally get there and it's like. 445 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: This is yeah, this is me, this is what this 446 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: is what I have. I can't give it. This is 447 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 2: what I always. 448 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: Told you, and that's what I tell young acting students 449 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: is you know, when I was going to acting school 450 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: in New York, everybody wanted to be Marlon Brando and 451 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: they were imitating Brando, they were imitating John Malkovich, and 452 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's the guys, the guys were copycats 453 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: more than the girls. The women were more original in 454 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: their interpretations of things. They weren't trying as much to 455 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: be Meryl Streep or whomever you know. And it's just 456 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: and so I tell you, I say, find out who 457 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: you are, what your voice is, and that can't be copied. 458 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: That's the original thing that casting people want, that producers 459 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: want exactly because that's unique. It's so simple. 460 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: Probably your best version, right, And I tell them you 461 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: have you have the gold. So don't worry about uh, 462 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: somebody recognizing you. Just keep developing your gold because it 463 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: it'll come out. Yeah, it'll come out. 464 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: Put the time, put the time in. 465 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 466 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: And now, Camille, you're part of this group of legends. Huh. 467 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: How does how does it feel to fill such big shoes? Well, 468 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, also, you're bringing in your own flavor, right, 469 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: You're bringing on your. 470 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: Own That's all I can do. I can't be my mom. 471 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: I can't be my mom. I know that I would 472 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: have some huge shoes to fill because they were powerful. 473 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: They're all still amazing. 474 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: These are me artist. Yeah. 475 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: So, and that's true. I have learned to just sort 476 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 3: of bring my own thing to the stage and try 477 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: my best to give. 478 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: That and not hold back. 479 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I think we all are getting 480 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: even better and better. It's like you have the best 481 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: mentor and the best training, so I'm. 482 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: Really really and you've got real audiences. 483 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not a game, you know. 484 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I. 485 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: Love it absolutely, adore my mom is being able to 486 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: spend some really quality time with you. 487 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: You know, when we're at home, it's almost like I 488 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: never see you come over, you know. 489 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: Plan you know, so. 490 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: Still a lot of touring, a lot of projects. Tell 491 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: us about your touring schedule and uh, yeah. 492 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: Come back a couple of days ago. 493 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, where where were you? 494 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: We were in Manchester you gay and then uh Lucern. 495 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then we came back home so we 496 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: could rest up so we wouldn't look like we have 497 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: bags under our eyes for you. For you, but because 498 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: we were done data, it was really bad. We were like, 499 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: it's crazy, We're so glad they scheduled it out until October. 500 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: When you had when are you head and back out? 501 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: So we've got we're in preparation right now on the 502 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: month of October, if that starts, we have a few 503 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: weeks in October, uh to prepare for November and November 504 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: show with Live with an Orchestra in in Belgium. In Belgium, 505 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: will also be in the Bahamas, right, Yeah, and then 506 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 2: to the Bahamas. And it's not a cruise. 507 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: I'll bet you can't wait for that. 508 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: Gig. 509 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope it's nice, you know, I just I 510 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: really never. I want to have a chance to see 511 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: this beautiful water. Yeah, we're looking forward to that. We 512 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: could use a couple of day. We're like, we can 513 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 3: use some water out here. 514 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: Well, it has been an honor getting to talk to 515 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: you a little bit, uh, Camille and Debbie and continued 516 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: success and stay out there giving the people all that 517 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: gold and all that love. 518 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: Ye. 519 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: And it's truly truly an amazing legacy that you were 520 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: laying down for your fans still and we really appreciate 521 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: you coming on. 522 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much. Yeah, feel very blessed. 523 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 3: Take care, ladies, So grateful, Thank you again, and thanks. 524 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: For the stories and the conversation really. Uh, And that's 525 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: going to wrap us up, folks. Remember best fans on 526 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: the planet. Keep those cards and letters come and remember 527 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: where you lead, we will follow. 528 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 5: Stay safe everyone, Hey, everybody, and don't forget. 529 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at i Am all In Podcast, 530 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com