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Speaker 1: It's time to place your bets. Let's talk to the pros.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's me Joey p

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Speaker 1: Joe Pi Zapia, and today we got some more Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball for you. We're talking season long props with

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite people. You know him from in

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Speaker 1: this league. You know him as one of the leaders,

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Speaker 1: if not the leader of the IT army, let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: And you also know him as the host of Prospect One,

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Speaker 1: the greatest prospect show you'll ever find and the coolest

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Speaker 1: infringement to the side. He's the one, the only, my

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Speaker 1: good friend, the Welsh Welsh. How are you, my friend?

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Speaker 1: What's going on, Joey, what's up, buddy?

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Speaker 2: Don't mention copyright. It's totally okay. It's just totally fine,

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Speaker 2: totally shirt that you can buy. Yes, what's up, buddy?

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Speaker 2: Thank you how much for having me. Glad to be

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Speaker 2: back on the Pros with the Joe.

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Speaker 1: I know that's right. Pros with the Joe. That's how

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Speaker 1: we roll here. And you know it's funny because we

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Speaker 1: talked about, you know, coming on for a show and

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Speaker 1: things like that. You said, well, I don't know betting

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But to me, the person you

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Speaker 1: want to talk to when it comes to props is

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Speaker 1: a fantasy person, especially when you're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: some of the rookie of the year stuff today too,

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Speaker 1: because you handle all the prospects and you can kind

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Speaker 1: of tell us where to put our money. But also,

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Speaker 1: I think fantasy people have the best opportunity to give

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Speaker 1: you the best information when it comes to who's the

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Speaker 1: hit leader this year, who's the k leader, who is

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Speaker 1: progressing in that fashion, because that is a little bit deeper.

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Speaker 1: That's more about digging into the stats and digging into

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Speaker 1: the numbers and more than just the trends and the

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Speaker 1: takes a really good fantasy person that is you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to chat for you about this. How

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Speaker 1: are you enjoying the baseball season?

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Speaker 2: First off, Oh, that's a loaded question.

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Speaker 1: It's a loaded question. I know what it's full of.

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Speaker 1: And I want to ask you because there's been some

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Speaker 1: good and some bad so far this year. So I'm

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Speaker 1: curious what's your take on the year in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't ironically, maybe to some people like

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be like the negative guy, even

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Speaker 2: though I can be kind of a negative guy because

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Speaker 2: there's so much great stuff about it. But I think

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Speaker 2: it's been a loaded year across the board. There's so

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Speaker 2: many things that show how much baseball is working against itself,

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Speaker 2: which really bothered me. From the littlest thing. John, I

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Speaker 2: was just talking about this on the Ende Fantasy Baseball podcast,

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Speaker 2: Like you go and look at Key Brian Hayes losing

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Speaker 2: it's like a technicality, but it's such a silly thing

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Speaker 2: that hurts baseball. You think it's good for baseball for

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Speaker 2: Kee Brian Hayes to literally hit a home run over

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Speaker 2: Bobby Witt had the exactly, it's the same day, the

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Speaker 2: same day Bobby Witt had it. That's not good for baseball.

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Speaker 2: The spider, you know, the all of the sticky and

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Speaker 2: COVID issues, there's been so much negativity in that front

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Speaker 2: that it's made it to enjoy baseball. Also, my team

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Speaker 2: I love it and I've expanded, you know, my fantasy

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Speaker 2: ask you one question? Since the Bedding Show, I was

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Speaker 1: For me, honestly, I think the in game betting is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think part of that joy is also

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Speaker 1: and the consensus line here, DJ Lemayhew was the best

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Speaker 1: odds at plus eight hundred, then wit Merrifield, wit Meryfield,

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Speaker 1: somebody else kind of emerging? As you know, this guy

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's there's a couple in line

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Speaker 2: never would have bet them is actually Cedric Mullins, who

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Speaker 2: think preseason I might have gone DJ Lemayhew, you know,

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Speaker 2: a concept Welsh, Yeah, exactly, it could work. But trade

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Speaker 2: Turner would be the guy for me that I would

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Speaker 2: look at in this because he's currently fourth in baseball

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Speaker 2: or at least tied for fourth with ikf Isa Isaiah

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Speaker 2: of the surprising leader in hits in baseball, Adam Fraser,

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Speaker 2: at this moment, if I'm you know, if I'm diving

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Speaker 1: So if you still have, i mean, with Fraser and

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Speaker 2: And he's got a three thirty five average, So all

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Speaker 2: And I would have taken I would love to tell

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Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have. I won one hundred percent the

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Speaker 2: smash that Otani over twenty because this was one of

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Speaker 2: Homer's and that seems insanely silly now, but uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: It sure you know. And the thing I keep coming

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna ask you this question and I want

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Speaker 1: the next category here, because no matter what Vlad does.

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Speaker 1: that's the thing I can't wrap my mind around of

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Speaker 2: Right because he doesn't. He doesn't, I mean he Otani

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Speaker 1: For especially with Trout going down to that really maximized

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Speaker 2: It's at minimum four weeks. He's been the leader at

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Speaker 2: We're not even talking about a guy that's like he's

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Speaker 2: I don't think Vlad is going to do it. Even

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Speaker 1: Pitching just changes the whole nation.

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Speaker 2: Legit, I would love to know what people think about this,

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Speaker 2: because I legit think Vlad could have the triple crown,

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Speaker 2: and I still think he doesn't win MVP over that.

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Speaker 1: That's fascinating. I'm gonna have to steal that for a

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Speaker 1: is that enough still? I don't know if it is.

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Speaker 2: Assuming O Tawni like finishes like the season.

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Speaker 2: He would be putting out the shares. You know, he

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Speaker 2: It's what you would think about him over two years.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, it's two different positions doing this,

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Speaker 2: And that's the closest I think you can get.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great conversation to have stolen bases obviously,

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Speaker 1: We're lucky if he plays fifty sixty games. At this point,

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Speaker 1: Trey Turner was at plus four point fifty, Ronald Acunia

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Speaker 2: I think Trey Turner is going to have the most hits,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I think a Tim Anderson

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Speaker 2: He's got ten stolen bases, and he's got a decent

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Speaker 1: in terms of win total. Garrett Cole plus nine hundred,

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Speaker 1: from the hat and the glove and who's got all

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Speaker 1: the special spinny the spinny goo that you put all

430
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Speaker 1: over the baseballs. I guess here's the question is does

431
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Speaker 1: this start to kind of creep in and make you wonder,

432
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,399
Speaker 1: all right, who really is completely legit and who is

433
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Speaker 1: going to possibly fall off? Or is it a little

434
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Speaker 1: bit of overrated nonsense when at the end of the.

435
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Speaker 2: Day, let me do my best Garrett Cole impression.

436
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Speaker 3: Uh good, Yeah, no, I think if he wasn't prepared

437
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Speaker 3: for the question, as if he didn't know that that question.

438
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Speaker 1: That's the funny part, right, It's like he wasn't prepared,

439
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Speaker 1: like nobody said, hey, Garrett, they might ask you about this,

440
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Speaker 1: you might want to have an answer kind of in

441
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Speaker 1: the can.

442
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Speaker 3: Right.

443
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Speaker 2: It's one of the most we just on I Tail

444
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Speaker 2: Baseball podcast, We just watch it. I had not watch

445
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Speaker 2: the whole video. I watched like the first twenty seconds

446
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Speaker 2: because it was like, it's enough.

447
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Speaker 1: You watch the.

448
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Speaker 2: Whole thing, and it is like one of the most

449
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Speaker 2: insane lack of preparation to answer a question, and it's

450
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Speaker 2: one of those if you political candidate, someone would be like,

451
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 2: get off the stay. They would have cut his mic.

452
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Speaker 2: They would have pulled off, they'd cut to a commercial.

453
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Speaker 2: There's no way. But like Garrett Cole already showed some

454
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Speaker 2: signs and you can see some of the relative concerns

455
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Speaker 2: that are out there. You know, I think you just

456
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Speaker 2: spend rate dropped a decent amount. You saw Bowers drop

457
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Speaker 2: a decent amount that I'm very actually, very very curious

458
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Speaker 2: to see where Garrett Cole is going to go the

459
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Speaker 2: rest of the year. If I were picking on this

460
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Speaker 2: and this is this seems wild because he's like rampant

461
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Speaker 2: with it. I'd actually go with to Grom.

462
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

463
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Speaker 2: And actually someone had quote tweeted a video of de

464
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Speaker 2: Groam kind of walking and like touching his side or whatever,

465
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Speaker 2: and they were like, oh, you want to say de

466
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Speaker 2: Grom doesn't do this, blah blah blah. And Thomas Nido,

467
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Speaker 2: who was with the team, he goes out and he

468
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Speaker 2: goes I can guarantee you this guy does nothing. He

469
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Speaker 2: is the most legit picture. De Grom needs nothing else.

470
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Speaker 2: I think when you if you do actually truly bring

471
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Speaker 2: down the pool of guys and you bring down two levels,

472
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Speaker 2: Jacob de Gram has an opportunity to kind of rise up,

473
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Speaker 2: the crop rises up. And also I'd say that is.

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Speaker 1: Can the Mets rise up with the wins and all that?

475
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Speaker 2: That's the big thing. And I think Lindor has been

476
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Speaker 2: rock bottom for so long that I think signs are

477
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Speaker 2: starting to pick that. I think Lindor is going to

478
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Speaker 2: start to come around. And as Lindor comes around, you're

479
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Speaker 2: gonna have that second stretch, and I think Debram is

480
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Speaker 2: going to finally pick up more wins. If I was

481
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Speaker 2: picking another one, I probably go Bouer. Uh, you know

482
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Speaker 2: Bower has been able to do this. It's the Dodgers.

483
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Speaker 2: They're going to collect wins just left and right. So

484
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sitting at the top of the pool

485
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Speaker 2: here obviously of players like Flirty is going to be

486
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Speaker 2: out until the All Star break, so he's not even

487
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Speaker 2: an option.

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Speaker 1: And he's a lot of good pictures too. He's still

489
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Speaker 1: got you Darvish in this mix, you know, obviously, you

490
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Speaker 1: know he's pitched very well this year too. Nobody thought

491
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Speaker 1: Carls or Down would be what he is. I think

492
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Speaker 1: the guys in the White Sox always have a chance too,

493
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Speaker 1: because I look at the combination of run support and

494
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Speaker 1: bolepen and things like that, and we go, well, you know,

495
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Speaker 1: lance Lynn Gilito, if everyone just kind of flies through

496
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Speaker 1: the last couple of months of the season, maybe those

497
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Speaker 1: guys gonna start.

498
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Speaker 2: You want a dark horse one. You want a dark

499
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Speaker 2: horse one is Juliarius with the Dodgers. You know, you

500
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Speaker 2: think of all the other pitchers with the.

501
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Speaker 1: Dodgers, because he's been terrific this year.

502
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Speaker 2: He's tied for the most wins in baseball right now,

503
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Speaker 2: and think of the Division Rockies Diamonback's worst in baseball

504
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: right now. Obviously you've got the Padres and the Giants

505
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Speaker 2: perform decent fire expectations. Though, Yeah, Julio Urias has been

506
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Speaker 2: one of the best pitchers in one of the more

507
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Speaker 2: big breakout stars from this past year that I think.

508
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Speaker 2: Arias where he's at, and the continuation, especially if you

509
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Speaker 2: look at the guys that are like, you know, Bieber's

510
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Speaker 2: in there, you can't discount Bieber, Aaron Savali's in there.

511
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Speaker 2: A real dark horse wan would be Julio Arias.

512
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to some of the save

513
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Speaker 1: leaders here. Liam Hendrix was leading the pack with plus

514
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Speaker 1: six point fifty, world As Chapman seven to fifty, Josh

515
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Speaker 1: Hayter plus eight hundred. Then you have rycee Oglecias, Kenley Jansen,

516
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Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz. So I know saves can be such an

517
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Speaker 1: arbitrary thing, a very difficult thing to wager on. But

518
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Speaker 1: right now, looking at where guys are in terms of

519
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Speaker 1: totals and where you project them to be as the

520
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Speaker 1: season goes on, who do you think is going to

521
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Speaker 1: lead the league in saves when all of a said

522
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Speaker 1: and done.

523
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Speaker 2: Well, Milanson's already got a three save lead and he's

524
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Speaker 2: on one of the best teams in baseball. I just

525
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Speaker 2: don't know how you go against it. Now, I would

526
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Speaker 2: say the thing that is not I mean that's no,

527
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Speaker 2: but it's not. But he's But it's not like it's

528
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Speaker 2: Milansen on the Royals or Milanson on you know, I'm

529
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Speaker 2: trying to even look at the Angels or something like that.

530
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Speaker 2: This is Mlanson on the Padres, who again, as I

531
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Speaker 2: point out, with the Dodgers, it's in a great division

532
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Speaker 2: to kind of keep collecting. The thing that holds against

533
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Speaker 2: him is that there are guys in the wings that

534
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Speaker 2: I don't think they'd be afraid to go to. Like

535
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Speaker 2: I think he has a shorter leash even though you

536
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Speaker 2: stay nineteen games, not even through mid June. I feel

537
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Speaker 2: like a team is going to give this guy more

538
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Speaker 2: of a leash than people want. So Milanson, I think

539
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Speaker 2: has got to be the guy that is still the

540
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Speaker 2: big front runner. But you know, don't look now, Kenlly

541
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Speaker 2: Jansen is having insane year, but he's six saves behind.

542
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Speaker 2: But it's the Dodger. So I'm going on like win

543
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Speaker 2: teams like Hendrix is in there. I think Rays is

544
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Speaker 2: gonna tap down a little bit. I think there's competition

545
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Speaker 2: with Barnes. I don't know Chicago can win enough for

546
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Speaker 2: Craig Kimberl. So I like, I like Mulanson or Jansen.

547
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Speaker 2: If if if I were possibly insane enough to bet saves.

548
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Speaker 1: Well, I was just gonna say to me, this is

549
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Speaker 1: always the one I'd run away from because it is

550
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Speaker 1: so arbitrary. Those opportunities can be so difficult, And certainly

551
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Speaker 1: there's so many guys who are right there, and the

552
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Speaker 1: number is gonna be so close. You know, there's gonna

553
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Speaker 1: be like one save two save difference between these guys

554
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Speaker 1: at the end. Now, the thing you really want to

555
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 1: talk about is pitcher strikeouts, and god knows we've got

556
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Speaker 1: a ton of those. I mean, between Corbyn Burns and

557
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Speaker 1: Jacob de Gram and Garret Cole and Bieber and everybody

558
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Speaker 1: in between. Giolito Shurez are looking like Schrzer again going

559
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Speaker 1: into things. Jacob deGrom plus four twenty five, plus four

560
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Speaker 1: to fifty for Garrett Cole, plus six fifty for Bieber,

561
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Speaker 1: Trevor Bauer plus seven to fifty. Then you have Giolito

562
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Speaker 1: plus eight and Max Scherz are at ten to one

563
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Speaker 1: at plus one thousand. So as the board looks right

564
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Speaker 1: now taking health, taking the new cruelty in baseball, cracking

565
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Speaker 1: down potentially on the guys with the spitty balls and

566
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Speaker 1: then the special substances. Who do you think, at the

567
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Speaker 1: end of the day is the guy at the top

568
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Speaker 1: of the hill when it comes to cas.

569
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Speaker 2: Well, I just can't go against Beiab. It's impossible to

570
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Speaker 2: go against Beiab right now with how he's with how

571
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Speaker 2: he's performed. There is I mean, I still love de Grom.

572
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Speaker 2: That would be I mean, your easy bets pending where

573
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Speaker 2: the money is is that play? Because de Gram also,

574
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Speaker 2: by the way, has the best k per nine in

575
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Speaker 2: baseball at fourteen four because he's only pitched as.

576
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Speaker 1: We're recording he starts right, Yeah, he's only pitched fifty

577
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Speaker 1: I believe, fifty eight innings.

578
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Speaker 2: He has ninety three strikeouts compared to the leader in Bieber,

579
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Speaker 2: who is one hundred and twenty two strikeouts in eighty

580
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Speaker 2: five innings. But let me throw a secondary name at

581
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Speaker 2: you again. If you're looking for just big payoffs for

582
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Speaker 2: the rest of the season, how about Corbyn Burns. Because

583
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Speaker 2: if you move down.

584
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Speaker 1: Saw Young coming into the season.

585
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Speaker 2: And you moved down the qualifications.

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Speaker 1: My big concern is what is Corbyn Burns after one

587
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty innings this year? That's what I worry

588
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Speaker 1: about a little bit.

589
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Speaker 2: And it's a great question. But if you are talking

590
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Speaker 2: rest of the season, you're willing to go with it.

591
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Speaker 2: Corbyn Burns is the second best k per nine behind

592
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Speaker 2: Degram at fourteen to two. He's got a time. He

593
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Speaker 2: has more strikeouts currently just you know, just a not

594
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Speaker 2: She's got ninety four. He must take the grounds ninety

595
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Speaker 2: three and he missed some times. So I mean, if

596
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Speaker 2: you look at the top, what is this like the

597
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Speaker 2: top seven in strikeouts in baseball? They've all got seventy

598
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Speaker 2: five or more innings except for Corbyn Burns. He has

599
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Speaker 2: ninety four strikeouts or six guys that have one hundred

600
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Speaker 2: strikeouts or more. The next guy is Corbyn Burns. So

601
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Speaker 2: you know where are my bets pending odds. Bieber is

602
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Speaker 2: clear and far away. You know, one hundred and twenty two,

603
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Speaker 2: five more than Tyler Glass now and he's already you know,

604
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Speaker 2: thirty more. They're twenty nine more than Jacob de Grom,

605
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Speaker 2: So you go Bieber to Grom. But if I want

606
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Speaker 2: some money play. It's Corbyn Burns. Corbin Burns is a

607
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Speaker 2: strikeout machine, and they got to press him. He looks

608
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Speaker 2: better than he's ever done before. He's missed some times,

609
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Speaker 2: so he's not looking like he's gonna press over two

610
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Speaker 2: hundred innings. That would be my one.

611
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Speaker 1: Here's a here's something I want to throw up before

612
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Speaker 1: we get to Rookie of the Year. I'm maybe a

613
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Speaker 1: conspiracy and spirau theorist for a moment, if I may,

614
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Speaker 1: that they sent down casted hero again, because it's time

615
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: to put him in a package to get some more

616
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Speaker 1: offense before he completely bottoms out in the major leagues

617
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Speaker 1: where somebody looks at him and says, Okay, we're gonna

618
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Speaker 1: have you know, maybe we can get this kid right.

619
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Speaker 1: He's still very young. Let's get him back. Maybe just

620
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Speaker 1: a change of I don't know, scenery, a change of

621
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Speaker 1: hitting coaches, whatever it might be. Do you think Milwaukee

622
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Speaker 1: sees opportunity here in this central because I don't think

623
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Speaker 1: anybody really believes in the Cubs at the end of

624
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: the day, and with Flaherty out and the rest of

625
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Speaker 1: this pitching being what it is in Saint Louis that

626
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: pitching in Milwaukee is so good. They just need to

627
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: get some more offense in the worst way, and Hero

628
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: wasn't getting it done. Do you think that that's part

629
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Speaker 1: of the reason why they sent him down again for

630
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Speaker 1: the second time this year.

631
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and they did the Adamis trade. They're

632
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: looking for offense, you know.

633
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Speaker 1: I'm that's another patchwork trade. Like they need a Mancini,

634
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: they need a Peralta, they need a no No, you know,

635
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: they need somebody.

636
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Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. I was gonna say, is like,

637
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 2: I'm less conspiratorial about like those type of deals, at

638
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: least I used to be where it's like, oh, they're

639
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: sending him down and just kind of hype up the

640
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: value and stuff like that, because I always want to

641
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: give a benefit of the doubt that like, these people

642
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: that are making millions of dollars, they're not gonna be

643
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Speaker 2: subdued by like fifty at bats in like a triple

644
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 2: A during half of the season to be like, whoa,

645
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: this guy's really great, But you know what it kind

646
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: of is. It kind of is like fantasy. It is legit.

647
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: The more that I have talked to inner workings of

648
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: people with baseball, the amount that teams will strategically push

649
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: prospects out there and try to influence and try to

650
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: create value and won't move prospects up specific levels because

651
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: they want to keep them hitting so they can keep

652
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: that value going. It actually makes a lot of sense,

653
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: I don't think here. Even though Craig Council came out

654
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: and said that never before has there been a bigger

655
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: gap between Triple A and the majors, which is a

656
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: really interesting comment which I think I relate. I could

657
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: see and I could agree with that they're encouraged by it.

658
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: It does feel like his team needs to make a

659
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: big trade, but I'm not so sure it can come

660
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: from Keston here. Regardless, he could be a part of it.

661
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: I think he's a prime candidate. Get him out of there,

662
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: get him in a new spot. But I don't know. Man,

663
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: if they could get Devin Williams right, you want a

664
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 2: great bullpen, but I imagine the package you could get

665
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: for Devin Williams and Keston Hero. You can move them off.

666
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: So I think they I agree with everything you said totally.

667
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: I think they need new stuff and I think they

668
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: are priming Keston Hero to just destroy at Triple A

669
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: and have a team that is just willing to have more.

670
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: That's what he did already once. That's my concern. He

671
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: he bret him up and it's like, yeah, it's not working,

672
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: let's send you back down. I think they're just protecting

673
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: the asset because they realize it's just not gonna happen,

674
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: and they think they have a window. All right, you

675
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: are the guy to talk to about this, So I

676
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: want your opinion on this. The consensus line of betting

677
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: pros for the National and Rookie of the Year Caulbrian

678
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: Hayes a plus three fifty, Ian Anderson plus six hundred,

679
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: Dylan Carlson at plus seven hundred. The American League side,

680
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: it still sit with Randy rose Arena at the top

681
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: at plus three fifty, Wander Franco's at ten to one.

682
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: Jared Kellenick, who just got sent down, still attend to

683
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: So I guess here's my question, National League, American League,

684
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: where do you want to put your chips here? Is

685
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: it just as simple as Brian Hayes is back now,

686
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: it's his award to lose Anderson's pitch very well. We

687
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: haven't seen Wander Franco yet. Is this the time to

688
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: bet it before comes up and this ten to one

689
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: becomes a two to one at some point. But he

690
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: is on the same team as a Rose Arraya, so

691
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: it's complicated. Take me through your thoughts here, National League

692
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: American League Work of the Year. Where's Welch putting the chips?

693
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: So from an NL perspective, I think you kind of

694
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: hit it. I think it's a two dog race right now.

695
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: I think I actually think Ian Anderson might be your guy.

696
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: He's got a three and a half era. He started

697
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: eleven games, he's been really good. If he had a

698
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: couple more wins under his table, like six, I don't

699
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: even think it'd be remotely close. But if he can

700
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: get to like twelve or thirteen wins and he's gonna

701
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: put it decently behind him, keep that three and a

702
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: half the ray. I gotta be honest with you. I'm

703
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: just not sure what key Brian Hayes can do at

704
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: that point. Like, I mean, he could obviously go off,

705
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: and he has shown some that I would say right now,

706
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: Ian Anderson is the front runner, but kee Brian Hayes

707
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: is on his tail, and keep Brian Hayes has been

708
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: just such a pleasant surprise that you know, the power

709
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: numbers have gone up and he's going to have really

710
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: big totals.

711
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: There's nobody else national League wise, it's going to come

712
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: up and compete this year.

713
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: Right uh oh, that's going to like actually be called up.

714
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: For this award in your opinion, right, I mean these

715
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: are these are the guys, right. Not a horse race here.

716
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: Here's the tough part.

717
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: Walks is starting to play better. I don't know if

718
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: that's a dark horse where you start.

719
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't think he qualifies though.

720
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: Has he has? He already passed the qualification.

721
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he had. Like there's a couple of guys,

722
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: well they're not in all now that I'm thinking about it,

723
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: but there's a couple of guys that are like Fringy

724
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: in that range. But like to your point of guys

725
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: that could come up and be impactful right now. Probably

726
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: not Like what I was gonna say is you always

727
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: have those players like look at like air Cities, a

728
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: Kino and stuff. You come up, you play like fifty

729
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: games and you hit like twenty homers. Those guys can

730
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: happen and there's a there's a possibility like Helly Oramos

731
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: or Eli Oramos with the Giants. He could get called

732
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: up like any time, and he's the type of player

733
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: that could hit twenty plus. And I think it could

734
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: change the discussion, except that Hayes and Anderson have been

735
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: there the entire time, so I just.

736
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Don't think and Anderson has the you know, two months on.

737
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Hayes hasn't been there for two months.

738
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like JJ, like JJ Blede could come

739
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: up in the discussion. If he comes up relatively soon

740
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: it starts hitting, he could be that. I think I

741
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: think the bet right now is one of those two.

742
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: I would put it on Ian Anderson like a little

743
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: subtext guy. If the team were a little bit better,

744
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: would be Pevid Smith, to be honest with you, a

745
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: dinoback to ninety two five homers. He's got thirty four runs.

746
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: He legit could close in. If the Diamondbacks can score

747
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: runs on like one hundred runs on the year, maybe

748
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: eighty RBIs twenty homers with a two ninety average, he

749
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: would be in discussion. Like, I think he's a top

750
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: five Rookie of the Year candidate in the NL. But

751
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's like low dollar stuff.

752
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: If you did that the al though America so al

753
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: is kind of like the Wild West. Is it a

754
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: matter of a Roserina and everybody else? Or is wander Franco,

755
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: Like I said, is this the window? Because it feels

756
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: like it might be because I don't know, I'm a

757
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: big fan. I just feel like this guy's gonna light

758
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: everything on fire. I think the league gonna have a

759
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: hard time adjusting to him. Actually that's my opinion on

760
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: Wander Franco. But I'm worried that none of that ten

761
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: to one gets cut in half very soon. If he

762
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: does get that call.

763
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I can throw a couple of things out

764
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: for you. There are two absolute wild cards in this.

765
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: I'm assuming because based on how I have it, they're eligible.

766
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: But here's what you're forgetting. You're forgetting you'remin Mercedes, and

767
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: you're forgetting a Doulas Garcia, even though they're twenty eight

768
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 2: years old, but they qualifying right right now.

769
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: Adulus Garcia Garcia Barsides was a look. Mercedes came crashing

770
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: back down earth. He had a great April. It was

771
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: a fun ride. But Garcia's home run totals I think

772
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: are definitely something to keep an eye on. If you

773
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: had a vote, would you vote for Garcia, or would

774
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: you vote for a Rosorina.

775
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: So far, I would vote for Garcia. It's unreal. He

776
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: has sixteen homers, hitting two seventy six and forty three RBIs.

777
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: Those forty three RBIs, I gotta look here because I

778
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: want to say.

779
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 1: Also got a ton of strikeouts in there too, which

780
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: I can, but they're not the day they look at

781
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: the totals. That's what you're looking for.

782
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: He's inside the top ten in RBIs. He's only behind

783
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: Shoheo Tani. I mean, maybe one of these surprising is

784
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: Hasyus Agular, who's fourth in baseball.

785
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: You know what, because Hazy's Agular is driven on hundred runs,

786
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, with the Milwaukee Brewers. He was an RBI

787
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: machine in the minor leagues in Cleveland. That guy knew

788
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: how to drive in runs. And that was the one

789
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: thing I always liked about Agular, even though he didn't

790
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: have the same kind of power you would look for

791
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: from us a first baseman, prototypically, he always had a

792
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: knack for driving in runs and he hit well with

793
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: runners and scoring position, which is like a lost art

794
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: form in baseball nowadays. But you bring up a great

795
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: point in Garcia, So is he actually the dark horse

796
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: that people should actually be starting to put some money

797
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: on where everybody saw about the other guys.

798
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I would be fascinated to see what does

799
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: the number look like right now for Al because I.

800
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Don't have to pull that up. I don't even have

801
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: that number for him, because you pick up a point

802
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: because he is twenty eight.

803
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: I think people you forget that he technically qualifies. He

804
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: did not exceed prospect eligibility. Age does not qualify prospect

805
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: eligibility in baseball, as much as people want to do it.

806
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people will be like, well, I'm

807
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: just not going to rank you know, a twenty eight

808
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: year old, which I totally understand, but baseball doesn't care.

809
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: And Randy Rosewine is twenty six, but Yurman is twenty

810
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: eight adults, Garcia is twenty eight.

811
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: And Erman Mercedes right now actually is funny because it's

812
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: just actually moved recently. Your Mercedes at plus eight hundred,

813
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: Kellenik is at plus ten, wonder Franco's ten, Andrew Vaughan's ten.

814
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking for Mercedes on consensus right now?

815
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: You mean Garcia?

816
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean Garcia rather and I don't have him, So

817
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: does he indeed or were sure he actually qualifies? There? Correct,

818
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: and you see Brujon in there, I see a lot

819
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: of other guys, And I.

820
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: Know eight he came into the year with prospect eligibility

821
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: as far as I know, because he had a short

822
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: stint in He had a short stint in two thousand

823
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: and eighteen where he had seventeen plate appearances. Then he

824
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: had only a handful more this past year and he's

825
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 2: eclips He's only only has two hundred and eleven total

826
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: plate appearances in his career and for this season he

827
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: has one hundred and ninety nine at bats. So yeah,

828
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: he technically qualifies. But maybe they took him off due

829
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: to age. I can't tell you who it is.

830
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: Well, they can't take you off because of age, but

831
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't know because of the you know, because of

832
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: all the way the COVID seasons and other things and

833
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: how they they tabulate.

834
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: Usually usually that's tied to games on roster. But I'm

835
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: telling you, we walked into this season. The qualification for

836
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: rookies as you walk into this season, and again somebody

837
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: that could go and correct and be like here's the

838
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: reason why, Okay, that's fine. If that's not the case,

839
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: let's just assume, like right now, I would go Adules

840
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: because his numbers are crazy. He's hitting underlining stuff you

841
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: on Baseball Savant, they keep going. He's just not going

842
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: to stop, and he's hitting for good average. Randy is

843
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: definitely in the disc I don't think it's out of

844
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: the realm of possibility. If Wander were to come up soon,

845
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: that he could pass Randy Rosin and Rands only hit

846
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: in about two fifty counting stats look pretty good. But

847
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: what would be in consideration is if Wander were to

848
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: come up, let's say within the next couple of weeks,

849
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: he legit could finish out the year hitting three hundred

850
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: plus and he could have you know, a ton of runs,

851
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: and he could maybe not a ton of RBIs ten

852
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: twelve stolen bases IV. I think if he were to

853
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: do that and come up, it would have to be

854
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: within the next couple of weeks. I would be willing

855
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: to slap a little bit of it on Wander. But

856
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: Trek Scooble would be another dark horse in here. But

857
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: Randy currently owns it. But you know, don't forget about uh,

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Speaker 2: don't forget about Adulus and pay attention to wander and

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Speaker 2: Trek Scooble.

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Speaker 1: There you have it all right. You can follow him

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at is it the Welsh and of course

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Speaker 1: go check out the it l Army over on Patreon.

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Speaker 1: In this league with Scott Bogman and the Welsh. And

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Speaker 1: you can also subscribe to Prospect one if you're somebody

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Speaker 1: who plays in Diazi leagues or you just like great

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Speaker 1: baseball talk. In this league, by the way, does everything

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Speaker 1: all the sports Welsh. I miss talking to you on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis. This was nice to get together talk

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Speaker 1: a little baseball. Hopefully we'll do it again soon and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time today, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I always loved doing it.

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Speaker 2: I always missed doing podcasts with you. Hopefully everybody had

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Speaker 2: a good time. And remember have some fun, have a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit of fun. It's supposed to be fun. Let's

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Speaker 1: make it fun. That's it. Go have fun, all right.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for us, but the story of the

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Speaker 1: game goes on for the Welsh. I'm Joey p. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Kids,