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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: I'll ah for me. I'm a man, I'm forty. I've

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Speaker 2: heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy.

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Speaker 3: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 2: Edo State?

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Speaker 3: Is that? Whoa? Whoa?

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Speaker 2: And now Dan and tie Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 1: We are recording this on Wednesday around midday Eastern time,

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Speaker 1: which means in about forty eight hours you will be

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Speaker 1: coming to my neck of the woods. We will be

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Speaker 1: taking a grand journey across Central PA up to State

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Speaker 1: College in preparation for the big old white out game

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Speaker 1: between Penn State and Oregon.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see you. I can't wait. You know what.

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Speaker 2: I always have my legal pad next to me, and

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Speaker 2: I'm writing down like there was like a viral tweet

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Speaker 2: a few years ago about an older gentleman before he

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Speaker 2: went out with his friends at a bar. He's like

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Speaker 2: potential discussion topics. I'm writing down road trip discussion topics

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Speaker 2: for you and I maybe we'll record it, maybe it'll

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Speaker 2: And I just have a series of questions I'm going

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Speaker 2: to ask you regarding topics I think about all the

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Speaker 2: time that will only be available if available on Verballers

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Speaker 2: dot com. I cannot wait to not circumnavigate, but really

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Speaker 2: traverse across Keystone State. Yeah, Keaystone State. Baby, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I am so excited. Everybody I tell that I'm going

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Speaker 2: I'm so jealous.

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Speaker 1: So good vibes all around up from this side, Ty,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. It'll be great to see you. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to get back up the state College. I haven't been

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Speaker 1: Yeah we need a Google map. Yeah, Google sheet. I

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Speaker 1: haven't gotten to the map yet, but we'll work up

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Speaker 1: That's the name of the Pickham Game, sir.

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Speaker 2: That's a good amount of coin for home Field. Good

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Speaker 2: and get some good gear man, goodyear.

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Speaker 1: Love it. Have you given any thought to what this

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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on here, right. You pitched Storyline

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Speaker 2: Satder story Saturday, story Time story Time Saturday, which I

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Speaker 2: going sauer Kraut Saturday, Colon, load up on the Dogs.

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Speaker 2: Load Up on the Dogs, Baby, Load Up on the Dogs.

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Speaker 1: What I'd be most curious to hear about from our

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Speaker 1: two things. The first is whether or not the way

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Speaker 1: The second is now that there is this void, how

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much of a story this actually is,

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Speaker 1: The boot is to help with foot soreness, and there

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Speaker 2: I saw Billion Napier say he's one hundred percent. He's fine,

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Speaker 1: The Internet is out there talking about how he's going

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Speaker 2: Stories like this.

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Speaker 1: There is always speculation, especially when your team gets off

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Speaker 2: I know if you're an enterprising young college football reporter,

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Speaker 2: Go for it all right? Why don't we leave it there?

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Speaker 1: Why don't we get to our picks of the week.

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Speaker 2: Let's go damn time.

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Speaker 3: The week, sour Kraut Saturday, Colin, Load up those dogs,

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Speaker 1: Listen to the Tuesday episode where we talked in more

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Speaker 2: Cayden Durham is beat up and is questionable for LSU

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Speaker 1: Did you also see that Lane Kiffen's twenty year old

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I'm going Old Miss minus one

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Speaker 2: I don't think I have a changed thought. I still

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Speaker 1: Ole Miss is one of the teams that I've got

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Speaker 2: It was pretty early on. We text all day, but Lea.

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Speaker 2: We also had YouTube commenters are like, what are you

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Speaker 2: talking about?

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Speaker 1: Time? Yeah, my bad, my bad. That's okay, Mia Kolpa,

440
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Speaker 1: Oregon not super penalized. I dug into some passing grades though, okay.

441
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Speaker 1: Among quarterbacks with a minimum of fifty dropbacks, Drew Aller

442
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Speaker 1: grades out as the eighty fifth best in college football

443
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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: That's out of like three thousand.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how many there are, but this

446
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Speaker 1: is there, not three. The minimum threshold that I put

447
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Speaker 1: here was fifty, and he's pretty low on that list.

448
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Speaker 1: Your boy Dante Moore is in the top ten. Yeah,

449
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Speaker 1: he looks really good so far. For whatever the grades

450
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Speaker 1: are worth to you, I thought that was meaningful here

451
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Speaker 1: because it does support what I've been saying all along

452
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Speaker 1: that Drew Aller just hasn't look good so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Better, Maybe he'll snap into form against better teams. I

455
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Speaker 1: don't you know. I don't always count on that, but

456
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Speaker 1: it's always possibility. It's still very early thus far, eighty

457
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Speaker 1: fifth best.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the name of the game here

459
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Speaker 2: is just going to be Oregon trying to force as

460
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Speaker 2: many passing downs as humanly possible, and you know not

461
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Speaker 2: let Penn State run wild on the ground and set

462
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Speaker 2: edges and you know not allow these running backs to

463
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Speaker 2: run through arm tackles. That kind of thing much easier

464
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Speaker 2: said than done with these two backs at Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Penn State is also in a great place defensively to

466
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Speaker 2: show things to Dante more to perhaps force turnovers or

467
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Speaker 2: make them segos. This should be an incredible matchup. I'm

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Speaker 2: sticking with my pick for Oregon. It's not a great

469
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Speaker 2: spot right, traveling across the country against a frenzied crowd.

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Speaker 2: It's an incredibly difficult spot here, but I think Oregon

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Speaker 2: has at least more pop Dan Lanning, I look this up.

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Speaker 2: This was somebody on our YouTube comment list or something

473
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Speaker 2: pointed out that Oregon under Dan Lanning you need the

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Speaker 2: get in price to beat the Ducks as thirty four points,

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Speaker 2: So that's I mean, Penn State did score more than

476
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Speaker 2: that last season in the Big Ten championship game in

477
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Speaker 2: a losing effort, so it's entirely possible that they're in

478
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Speaker 2: that range, but the offense has not looked precise enough

479
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Speaker 2: early for me to feel good about it in this moment.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sticking with Oregon here. I forget what my

481
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Speaker 2: exact pick was, something like twenty seven to twenty. I

482
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Speaker 2: want to say that somewhere in that neighborhood. I'm sticking

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Speaker 2: around there. So, look, we're going to be at the game.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna be the press box, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be at the game in the stands like two normal fans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: After the game, we're immediately going to run to an

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Speaker 1: undisclosed location and record the podcast. The plan right now

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Speaker 1: is to do the live stream as planned at midnight

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Speaker 1: or working through some of our options on that front,

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Speaker 1: but getting out of the stadium getting to our undisclosed location,

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Speaker 1: that could run a little bit long. There are one

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand plus that are going to be on hand

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Speaker 1: for this one, so if we encounter traffic, if we

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Speaker 1: encounter any kind of delay, the stream might start up

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Speaker 1: a little bit later usual. But that is the plan

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Speaker 1: right now. If that changes, we will make sure that

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Speaker 1: we post that everywhere imaginable because we want to do

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Speaker 1: our best to keep that appointment on Saturday night. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people stay up for it. They look forward

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Speaker 1: to it. We look forward to it, so we want

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Speaker 1: to do it. But this is just gonna be a

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Speaker 1: little bit different. It's going to look, it's probably gonna

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Speaker 1: sound a little bit different than usual. Just give us

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Speaker 1: a little bit of grace there until we can work

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Speaker 1: all this out. But we're excited to be doing it

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Speaker 1: in person. We never really do this show in person,

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Speaker 1: so it'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: Agree, all right? High noon on the Fox family of Networks.

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Speaker 2: It is number twenty.

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Speaker 1: One, Thank you, Dan, number twenty one, USC number twenty three. Illinois.

512
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Speaker 1: Illinois is a seven point home dog, Dan Rubinstein, the

513
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Speaker 1: line is crept up just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen six and a half seven right there?

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Speaker 1: Yep, I went back. I watched all of USC's games

516
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Speaker 1: this morning. My cup of tea.

517
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Speaker 2: Bowl oatmeal brag much, Okay, Jada, myov.

518
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Speaker 1: Has been really good so far this year. Agree, Like

519
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Speaker 1: all facets of this offense look really really good right now.

520
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Speaker 1: And defensively, I think the tackling is better. Their defensive

521
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Speaker 1: front has definitely taken a step forward, just in terms

522
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Speaker 1: of like I don't know, pressure rate.

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Speaker 2: Saw that Jackiem Stewart play the freshman Jaqem Stewart when

524
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Speaker 2: he just launched himself into the backfield. Yeah, fifth in the.

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Speaker 1: Nation and pressure rate yep. Now, some of that might

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Speaker 1: be related to competition, but more to the point that

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Speaker 1: we've been making all season one, not everybody who's played

528
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Speaker 1: bad teams putting up these kind of numbers. So what

529
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Speaker 1: I am seeing when I am watching USC is real

530
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Speaker 1: intention with how they're playing on offense, how they're playing

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Speaker 1: on defense, might have a lot to do with the competition,

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Speaker 1: but again, having the killer instinct that is great to see.

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Speaker 2: O great.

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Speaker 1: Was I wrong about USC in the preseason is the

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Speaker 1: question I keep asking myself, and right now I'd say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of trending in that direction. Idiot, Okay, I

537
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Speaker 1: kind of sound like a fool because I said they

538
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Speaker 1: were gonna be worse. I said they were an eight

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Speaker 1: and fourteen. This doesn't look like an eight and fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Not at present, nop. So let me offer this.

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Speaker 1: Olive branch to the USC brethren out there that I

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Speaker 1: know listen.

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Speaker 2: To the show double Down, time, double Down.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to double that tribble down if USC

545
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Speaker 1: flies halfway across the country, for what's gonna feel like

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Speaker 1: a nine am kickoff on the body Clock, and if

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Speaker 1: they cover this point spread, which right now is seven

548
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Speaker 1: against a veteran Leyden Illinois squad, I am going to

549
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Speaker 1: buy one of those Tommy Trojan helmets and I am

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Speaker 1: gonna wear it on the week that USC plays Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame when we record this episode. So you're saying, if

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Speaker 1: they cover this game, if they cover, they can win.

553
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Speaker 1: But if they cover, if they show that killer instinct,

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Speaker 1: if they cover this weekend on the road against Illinois,

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Speaker 1: I am wearing.

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Speaker 2: The helmet before you bring it up. I also need to.

557
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Speaker 1: Wear the Mulenberg shirt to honor the bet from two

558
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Speaker 1: years ago with our friend Tim Murray, our friend the Desert,

559
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Speaker 1: Tim Murray from Vsen. I feel like this is a

560
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Speaker 1: perfect opportunity for USC to show what they're made of

561
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Speaker 1: to go on the road. Weird circumstance, right with the timing,

562
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Speaker 1: go up against a veteran team in Illinois, which by

563
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Speaker 1: the way, has to feel like their back is against

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Speaker 1: the wall to some extent. Yeah, they can cover this

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Speaker 1: point spread, then I'm willing to admit that I was

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Speaker 1: fully wrong on USC. I will wear the helmet in

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Speaker 1: support of the Trojans.

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Speaker 2: I hear you, So, but what do you think I'm

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Speaker 2: going Illinois? Plus the point?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Okay? What is driving that line of thinking? Then it's

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Speaker 2: is it a body clock thing? Do you think the

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Speaker 2: best of USC is unable to overcome lethargy because of

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Speaker 2: travel and start time in the Midwest? The weather's supposed

577
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Speaker 2: to be good, by the way, about eighty degrees a

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Speaker 2: kick off. Yeah, I think big noon's going to be there,

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Speaker 2: so there's going to be energy there. So it's not

580
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Speaker 2: like USC is going to overlook this. It's certainly a

581
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Speaker 2: letdown slash bounce back spot for Illinois after being thoroughly

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Speaker 2: pantsed and spanked around by Indiana on the road last week. Brutal.

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Speaker 2: But as we like to say, you're not who you

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Speaker 2: are on your best day. You're not who you are

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Speaker 2: on your worst day. And so what is your line

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Speaker 2: of thinking that Illinois is a team that can keep

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Speaker 2: this close?

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Speaker 1: First Off, never underestimate the effects of that bodyclock. Okay,

589
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Speaker 1: brought that one out of retirement just for the body clock. Secondly,

590
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Speaker 1: never underestimate a veteran team that feels like it is

591
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Speaker 1: in a desperate place after getting annihilated the week prior,

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Speaker 1: and also never underestimate the fact that it's still I

593
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Speaker 1: think a pretty good team playing at home last week

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Speaker 1: got out of hand. It was not good. This is

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Speaker 1: going to be a really interesting test, I think for

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Speaker 1: USC's offense and defense. On offense, because Illinois blitzes a

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Speaker 1: lot more than anybody USC has played so far. They

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Speaker 1: blitz about one out of every two dropbacks. So they're

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Speaker 1: going to try to dial up pressure and that worked well,

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Speaker 1: it didn't work at all last week. Let's see how

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Speaker 1: it works this week. Yeah, if nothing more, it'll be

602
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Speaker 1: a change as compared to what Jade Mayava has seen

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Speaker 1: so far. USC, by the way, has been the least

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Speaker 1: blitz team in college football, So they're going to see

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Speaker 1: a little bit more pressure, or at least attempted pressure.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how they handle that. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: also an interesting test for their defense because it's a

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Speaker 1: better team on the road, and the defense, frankly, has

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Speaker 1: been the thing that everybody is focused on when you

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Speaker 1: talk about USC. At least in the preseason, they've looked

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Speaker 1: really good. I am sort of a converted USC believer

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Speaker 1: at this point, based on what I've been seeing just

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Speaker 1: going back and watching these games. But this is another

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Speaker 1: test again on the road against a team that has

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Speaker 1: a lot of veteran leadership and I think is a

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Speaker 1: little bit desperate. So let's see what they're made of.

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Speaker 1: I think the game plan here is probably if you're Illinois,

618
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Speaker 1: to force a couple mistakes by bringing pressure, by slowing

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Speaker 1: the game down, try to keep the Trojan offense off

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Speaker 1: the field and make it ugly. And we know that

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Speaker 1: Brett Bielma can play that style of foot ball if

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Speaker 1: he wants to, and I didn't last week, but that

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Speaker 1: is I think what's going to work if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: try and beat USC. I don't think they beat USC.

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Speaker 1: I really don't, but I do think that this is

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Speaker 1: closer than the seven points thirty four to thirty one,

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Speaker 1: somewhere in that number for me.

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Speaker 2: Also, something on your side is Lincoln Riley since arriving

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Speaker 2: at USC. Take this with whatever size grain of salt

630
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Speaker 2: you'd like, is three and ten as a road favorite

631
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Speaker 2: against the spread against the spread, so not out against

632
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Speaker 2: not outright against the spread. He is three and ten

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Speaker 2: with USC. Obviously, each season is a different team is

634
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Speaker 2: different context. Also, The context with this week with USC

635
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Speaker 2: is the status of their starting left tackle and their

636
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: best big play receiver both very much up in the air,

637
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Speaker 2: Jacoby Lane and Elijah Page. Jacoby Lane did not play

638
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: last week against Michigan State. Elijah Page got hurt, so

639
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: they're a little bit thin there. Conversely, Illinois super thin

640
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Speaker 2: in their secondary. They are very beat up there, and

641
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Speaker 2: so I think there is something to considering the body

642
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Speaker 2: clock in a spot like this. I think there is

643
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Speaker 2: ultimately reason to think this is kind of close and

644
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Speaker 2: competitive for a good amount of time because of that.

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Speaker 2: But I think USC does pour it on a little

646
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: bit late, or at least turns enough on late, because

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Speaker 2: I don't think Illinois against USC and Michigan State scored

648
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Speaker 2: thirty one, this was legitimately a game late. You know,

649
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Speaker 2: Jada Mayava had a terrific scramble to extend a drive

650
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Speaker 2: that looked like he was gonna get sacked for a

651
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Speaker 2: loss and get it back to Michigan State. Obviously, Spartans

652
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Speaker 2: couldn't make that play, and you know, Michigan State's defense

653
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Speaker 2: is not very good at the moment. Illinois defense may

654
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: not be all that good in this moment, and so

655
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: the way you beat USC, hypothetically, I think is going

656
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: directly at them on the ground. And I just don't

657
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 2: think Illinois right now can be trusted to do that.

658
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: And I don't think they can get to like something,

659
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: we're thirty five points something like that. I think it's

660
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: going to take to beat USC for most of these

661
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: teams this year. So I'm gonna say USC maybe backdoor,

662
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna say it's a cover. They win by

663
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: ten or thirteen points at Illinois. Maybe it's you know,

664
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: a three point game in the fourth quarter and they

665
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: just open it up.

666
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 1: I went back US win this one a lot. I

667
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: really did, because I like USC more than I expected,

668
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: and I'm just about ready to admit that I was

669
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: completely wrong, as I've been about a couple teams.

670
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: This is a growth moment though, by the way it is,

671
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: this is a game USC has lost right that, like

672
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: it's on the road, it's against inferior team or a

673
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: team that is licking wounds. Is a team that you know,

674
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: is looking for ways to find a spark. You know.

675
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: Maybe the most dependable receiver in this game is Hank Baty.

676
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: He's been great for Illinois, but I don't see Illinois

677
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 2: having the dudes at present on offense. That really should

678
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: scare USC. So even with USC being beat up, we'll

679
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: see how that affects the offensive rhythm. I have been

680
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: winning the by ten or thirteen.

681
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: Also at high noon on ABC number twenty two, your

682
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: Notre Dame fighting Irish Sure on the road against Arkansas.

683
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: This line has taken a newsedive Dan Rubinstein. It is

684
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: currently Notre Dame minus four. I believe in the preseason

685
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: when you could get some of those advanced lines, this

686
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: one was up there around thirteen fourteen points, somewhere in

687
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: that neighborhood. When the line broke earlier in the week,

688
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: it was higher. It has very progressively gone down.

689
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: I've seen yeah, four and three and a half at

690
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: some places.

691
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that line is racing in the direction of the Hogs,

692
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: and it makes a lot of sense. If you have

693
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: watched Notre Dame as I have, as many have, just

694
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: by applying some critical thought, you can understand why this

695
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: line is where it's at, and it's because of the

696
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame defense. The Notre Dame defense has been a

697
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: train wreck so far this season. Arkansas has had this

698
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: game circled for well over a year, they will be hungry.

699
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: I think they will be able to move the ball.

700
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: I think Taylor Green is going to be a problem,

701
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: and I don't know that Notre Dame has a good

702
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: answer for him. Honestly, I think the biggest issue for

703
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: Arkansas in this game is not beating themselves, because the Hogs,

704
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: as you know, as anyone who watches this team knows,

705
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: they are not that far away from being four and

706
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: zero right now. They had close losses. It very easily

707
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: could have been close wins. So for me, as the

708
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: Notre Damer among us, I look at this game and

709
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: I am terrified. I love Notre Dame's offense. I think

710
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: their offense is going to go to warp speed. I

711
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: think they're going to put up a ton of points here.

712
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: I have no idea if they can stop Arkansas and

713
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: tailing Green.

714
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: Man. I wish Arkansas had a little bit more of

715
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: a heartbeat on their own defense here. I'm gonna take

716
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: the points just because I think you're talking situationally, bringing

717
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: what could be one of the most disappointing pass defenses

718
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: in America on the road against a good quarterback, a

719
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: good offensive coordinator. You know, I still think these types

720
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: of games are one in the trenches and run, you know,

721
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: one doing the little things, which obviously Arkansas has struggled with.

722
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: Arkansas was right there with Ole Miss I believe on

723
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: the road. That game was in Oxford, I believe, and

724
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: certainly the Memphis game was not only in their grass,

725
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: but it was given away. I'm gonna take the points here.

726
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the points because I think it's going

727
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: to go back and forth. I think Notre Dame, we think,

728
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: we believe their offense should be pretty explosive this year.

729
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: You don't want to say, like, Okay, well they have

730
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: it all figured out after that game against Purdue, but

731
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: against Texas A and M they look really sharp at

732
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: times on offense as well. I'm going to go with

733
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: Arkansas here in a wild game. I think it's gonna

734
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: be wild because the usual things that Notre Dame can

735
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: depend on to win these types of games cannot be

736
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: depended on, and so Notre Dame is now in the

737
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: process of learning how to win in new ways, which

738
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a pretty frenzied atmosphere. Believing

739
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 2: in Arkansas to win a big game is certainly a choice,

740
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: That's what I'm making.

741
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: That's a choice unto itself. But yeah, sure, point taken.

742
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: It's a weird sport. Arkansas is the most college football

743
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: college football team. So I'm gonna go with Arkansas to

744
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: have an outright win against Notre Dame in a very

745
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: chaotic Fadeville environment. I'm also taking Arkansas outright.

746
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: Okay, but you can't be trusted you try to reverse Jinks.

747
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: You've all these not a reverse Jinks games you play.

748
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: I do have these games that I play. This is

749
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: not one of those times I thought about locking up Arkansas.

750
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that because that it'll really

751
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: look like I'm trying to do a reverse Jinks.

752
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: But look, I feel great about the over. The over

753
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: is sixty four and a half. I don't know how

754
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: high they can make it, but I know, having watched

755
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's defense, that it has not gotten particularly better,

756
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: and they've had opportunities. I mean, Purdue scoring thirty points.

757
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: Purdue is plucky, and I think Purdue might end up

758
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: being better. They can't be any worse than they were

759
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: a year ago.

760
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you shouldn't.

761
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: Score thirty points against Notre Dame against his defense. You

762
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: kidding me? Agree, you score forty one or forty points

763
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: I guess against Texas A and M. If you had

764
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: told me that two years ago that you would score

765
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: that at home against one of the better teams in

766
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: the country and you'd still lose, I would say, you're crazy.

767
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: This defense is not good right now. And I know

768
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman talked a good game in his press conference

769
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: and said that they had an uncomfortable meeting earlier this

770
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: week talking amongst the defensive staff, you know, again emphasizes

771
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: this thing about players needing to execute and whatnot. I mean,

772
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: they all kind of say the same thing at this point, right,

773
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: But whatever is going on, I tend to think it's

774
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: more of a scheme thing to my untrained eye. Clearly

775
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of talent on hand. It just

776
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: seems like there's confusion back there, especially in the past defense.

777
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: So give me Arkansas out right. Yeah, I'm going to

778
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 2: Arkansas out right again. It's a choice, it's a choice, choice,

779
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: it's a choice.

780
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: But Arkansas, by the way, also, I think a team,

781
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 1: at least a coaching staff Sam Pittman has to feel

782
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: like his back's against the wall too.

783
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: This would be a signature win. I don't know how

784
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: long even if they were to win. Obviously, the schedule

785
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: gets continues to be very much real for the Hogs.

786
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: By the way, something working in Notre Dame's favor is

787
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: the kickoff time here twelve o'clock. You know, it's it's

788
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: not the same as a three point thirty. Been tailgating

789
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: all day, been tailgating six seven hours.

790
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: I know.

791
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: Obviously the diehard Arkansas fans are gonna be tailgating for

792
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: a while, even for a noon kick. It's not a

793
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: night game. It's not something that's you know, you don't

794
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: have the potential energy of a stadium waiting all day.

795
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: So there is something that can be a little bit

796
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: sleepy about a noon kick for a big game, depending

797
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: on the place, depending on the situation. I still think

798
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a crazy crowd, but I just don't

799
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: think it's it would be the fever pitch of a

800
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 2: three point thirty or a seven to fifteen.

801
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: No. No, if you play college fantasy football, which I do,

802
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: not pick tailing Green this week. Okay, okay, just take

803
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: tailoring Green. He's gonna have a field day. He's got

804
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: out right. They don't have an answer for him. They

805
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 1: really don't. They can't get to the quarterback, and even

806
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: if they could, guys are open down the field. So

807
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: just take tailing Green, don't even think twice about it.

808
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: Three point thirty on Peacock. Indiana, fresh off their fifty

809
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: three point win against Illinois, now on the road, squaring

810
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: off against Iowa. They are a seven point road favorite.

811
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: Is there a letdown effect a week after that big game?

812
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 2: Dan, it's also let down look ahead? By the way,

813
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: they have Oregon next. They have Oregon next. That's right,

814
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: that's it's a bye week and then Oregon. But yeah,

815
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: that's their next opponent.

816
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 1: Perhaps it's an Iowa defense that can offer a little

817
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: bit more than what we saw a week ago. Perhaps

818
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: it's an Iowa offense that feels like they have finally

819
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: figured out the Mark Kronowski formula a week after getting

820
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: three touchdowns from him on the ground on the road

821
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: on a Friday night against Rutgers. So is there any

822
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: kind of Iowa steam here that we should subscribe to?

823
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is Iowa steam here, and it stinks to

824
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: high happen the steam. So I'm going to take Indiana

825
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: lock of the Week, Lock of the week.

826
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: Lock of the week, Wow, Lock of the week.

827
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 2: Here's my thinking here. Indiana blew out a lot of teams.

828
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: They didn't have letdown spots last year. I think they're

829
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: potentially better this year because of what Fernando Mendoz's ceiling is.

830
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 2: Is he the odds on Heisman favorite in this moment?

831
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: He is one of the top three or something. He's

832
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: got a fourteen.

833
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: To zero touchdown to interception ratio, He's completed nearly seventy

834
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: seven percent of his passes. I mean, even if he

835
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: is as effective, he's still gonna be pretty good against

836
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: Iowa and show out in this game. And to the point, yeah,

837
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: they don't tend to let up against anybody. So this

838
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: is another opportunity for him against if nothing more, a

839
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: good defense on the road, to showcase what he can do.

840
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: But it's hard to look past Fernando Mendoza and what

841
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: he's done, and especially after getting to win a week ago.

842
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: There will be other opportunities, like if he goes and

843
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: plays really well against Oregon, right, I can't imagine that

844
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: his odds wouldn't drop considerably.

845
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: So before the injury, John Mattier was the odds on

846
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: favorite then Mendoza, then a tie between Carson Beck and

847
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: Dante More, then Gunner Stockton, then a tie between Garrett

848
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: nus Meyer, Joey Aguilar, Marcel Reed, Josh Hoover, rounding out

849
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: the top five odds.

850
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: Man get in on Gunner Stockton now before the Obama game.

851
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: If you believe as we do in Georgia.

852
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: That's true, stock up, stop up.

853
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: That's right.

854
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: They're my lock of the week because one they don't

855
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: they don't take their foot off the pa. They're locked in.

856
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: They seem precise, they seem crisp as a program. I'm

857
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: not a believer in Iowa's defense being where it's been.

858
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: This version of Iowa's defense, all due respect to Rutgers

859
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: and Nathan calliac mannis lit him up. Last week was

860
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: it didn't play scared that Iowa's defense is going to

861
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: stifle anything. And as somebody who is not currently a

862
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: believer in Mark Gronowski, if I'm going to say to myself,

863
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: the passing game, because this is running ability, is good,

864
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: but the passing game for Iowa right now is a

865
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: huge disappointment. And I have a blood in the water

866
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: feeling about this passing offense. I think Indiana is the shark,

867
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: right that, like, you can't bring that kind of weakness,

868
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: you can't bring that kind of odor, that kind of

869
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 2: smell to a game like this, even though it's at Iowa,

870
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 2: and Iowa was good there and traditionally have been very

871
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 2: good there in these spots where they can make a

872
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: game feel like quicksand I just don't think that's this year,

873
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: is Iowa team, And so I'm gonna go with Indiana

874
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: to one, you know, thirty five thirteen, something like that.

875
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: I like the cut of your jib dan.

876
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: Lock, double lock, double barrel lock of the week.

877
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: I am with you on all points and then some

878
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: I've got this jotted down as something like thirty one

879
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: to fourteen Indiana. I just don't see it. I don't

880
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: know how Iowa scores enough points to win this game.

881
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: I don't know how they score enough points to cover

882
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: this game. It's one thing to put up thirty eight

883
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: against a Rutgers defense that stinks, it's a whole thing

884
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: all together, whole other thing all together. To do it

885
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: against an Indiana defense that right now is playing like

886
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: they're a top ten unit in the country. And even

887
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: if they are starting to figure out the formula and

888
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: how best to use Mark Ronowski. As you said, it's

889
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: mostly on the ground, yep. I mean, it's just we've

890
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: seen him throw the ball, so I don't see how

891
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: it's happening. I don't see how it's happening. I am

892
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: excited to see Fernanda Mendozo and what he does against

893
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: an Iowa defense that I think is going to be

894
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: doze on. You know, most of the defenses he's played

895
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: this year at a minimum yep. And certainly they're on

896
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: the road in Iowa, which is going to make it

897
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: a little bit tougher.

898
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: I did see, and I think I feel even better

899
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: about this now is Elijah Sarrat now has a signature

900
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: pizza at a local pizzeria in Bloomington. I believe great

901
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: and it features hold on Elijah sorrat serratcha.

902
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's a little cloist. It's dial will be

903
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: something that I would do.

904
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: I love it. And yes, it does have a very

905
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: familiar hilden Brand ring to it, so.

906
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: I might have to steal that. Actually, it's pretty good.

907
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: It's not bad, so we agree. Oh man, bad news

908
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: for you. Double Locke three thirty CBS, number one, Ohio

909
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: State on the road an eight and a half point

910
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: favorite going to Uski Stadium to square off against Washington.

911
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 1: So this is one of those games that we talked

912
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: about a lot when we did our previews. This line

913
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: has also gone down. It is now down to eight

914
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: and a half. I have seen some speculation that it

915
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: could go all the way down to like seven. So

916
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: there is a lot of steam on Washington, maybe not

917
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: to win outright, but to keep this one close at

918
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: home with Ohio State coming to town. Where are you

919
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: at here?

920
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: I went back and forth. We don't have a full

921
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: concept in either one of these teams. We have a

922
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: full concept on most of these teams. Home Field advantage

923
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 2: absolutely for Washington here, definitely. They had a nice run

924
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: at all. They beat Michigan with a big spot, with

925
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: a lot of energy last year. Obviously last year's Michigan

926
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: team was not a super special, but they're going to

927
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: have the place rocking. What time is kickoff three to

928
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: thirty Eastern three thirty, so a little bit of time

929
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 2: to get a little sauced and get the energy in

930
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: that stadium and Husky Stadium right there on the lake.

931
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: Washington was in a full on game against a maybe

932
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 2: average Wazoo team and it was thirty one to twenty four,

933
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: relatively late, like in the shadow of the fourth quarter.

934
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 2: They finished strong. You should credit teams for finishing strong,

935
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: but that was a game and their defense was not.

936
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: It was not an incredible day for Washington's defense on

937
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: the road in Pullman in a rivalry game at Wazoo.

938
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: But the offense this year has been basically NonStop electric.

939
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: Jan of Coleman's been really good, Denzel Boston's been really good.

940
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: DeMont Williams has been a great dual threat for them

941
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: against some pretty subpar defenses. Ye, they've performed like three

942
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: bad teams so far, but they performed like a great

943
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: offense should given playing what UC Davis, Colorado State in

944
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: Washington State, and so that's good. I appreciate that. Doesn't

945
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: mean that this is going to indicate future results. I

946
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 2: think Ohio State's defense is probably really really good, gonna

947
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 2: limit Washington a lot more than they've been limited. That's

948
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: not a crazy thing to say. I'm not crazy about

949
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 2: Ohio State on the ground this year thus far, though

950
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: they've been rotating in some younger guys and getting some

951
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: good results. They didn't blow Ohio out for the entirety

952
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: of that game. Ohio could be full of though Ohio

953
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: could be fair. I was looking at Ohio this week

954
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 2: against Bowling Green. I don't know what the points spreads at,

955
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: but I was thinking a bet in that too, because

956
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: Ohio's been full on good. They look like their offense

957
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: is really really legit. Will they be West Virginia early

958
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: on Parker Navarro?

959
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 3: So?

960
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: I think Ohio State obviously have the clear strengths of

961
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: their passing game. Julian Sane has been very accurate, though

962
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: he made a couple of mistakes against Ohio. Think Ohio

963
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: State wins this game. I see a lot of people

964
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: looking at great value for Ohio State, like blowing the

965
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 2: doors off of Washington. That Washington's value is a little

966
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: bit overinflated here. I don't know, man. I think this

967
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: is a tough emotional spot on the lake and Ohio

968
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: State is just they're working in so much new I

969
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: think the big thing and I saw this, I think

970
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: it was eleven Warriors. I want to credit where it's due.

971
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: The fascinating match up here will be Avrol Reese, the

972
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: linebacker for Ohio State, spying demand Williams. Yes, right, how

973
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: much of a playmaker can demand Williams be? And I

974
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: also worry in terms of the potential for Washington winning

975
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: this game. I think there's a pretty steep falloff after

976
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: the number one receiver. I don't think there is obvious

977
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: spreading the ball around game changing ability, and I just

978
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: think you need to have that to beat a team

979
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: like Ohio State. So I'm going to take Washington to

980
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: cover Ohio State to win, and I'm going to say

981
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: thirty to twenty one, thirty to eighteen something. Well, I

982
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: guess thirty to eighteen would have an Ohio State cover.

983
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: Mass Solder Dan Rubinstein over there, Yeah, thirty to twenty four.

984
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: Write it down. The math checks out.

985
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: I've got thirty one to twenty four. Actually, okay, I

986
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: think a little bit of a backdoor cover situation here.

987
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

988
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: The thing that you should have mentioned that you didn't

989
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: is that this is also Julian Sayin's first road start,

990
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: also true first road start, and it'll be in Husky Stadium.

991
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 2: Which is very high rest advantage though right.

992
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: And very loud. There is a rest advantage. They were

993
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: last week. They've had plenty of opportunity here to get

994
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: ready for this one. But look, I'm going to harken

995
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: back to what I said during the previews, and I

996
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: believe it now more than ever. Washington is the white

997
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: knuckle team of the Big Ten. They may not go

998
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: out there and win nine games, they may not even

999
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: get to seven. I don't know, but I think they're

1000
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: going to be a tough out through and through.

1001
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: I think they're a good team.

1002
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they are a good team. And I

1003
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: really like this team a lot when I previewed them

1004
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. So for me, this is an

1005
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: opportunity to see what they're made of, as Ohio State

1006
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: is for everybody. It's a perfect test to see where

1007
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: you rank or you rank relative to the field.

1008
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: Thirty one twenty four.

1009
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: I think it's mostly Ohio State. I think they mostly

1010
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: keep Washington at arms length. But I think it's cool

1011
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: just for a while, and I think there's a backdoor cover.

1012
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 2: By the way, Washington's schedule is looking pretty tasty in

1013
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 2: this moment. It is so after Ohio State. Yeah, it's

1014
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: at Maryland. We'll see what Maryland is. But they're four

1015
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: to zero at this moment. It is September, and that

1016
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: is a big key from Maryland. Yeah, they have Rutgers

1017
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 2: at home, which should be I mean, it's a revenge

1018
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: spot for Washington, and the Rutgers defense has been pretty

1019
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: atrocious this year. An unfinished but one hundred percent good

1020
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: and challenging Michigan on the road is going to be

1021
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: very tough, a more flawed than perhaps America thought. Illinois

1022
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: at home, a Wisconsin team who is teetering on the edge.

1023
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 2: Purdue very much the start of a work in progress.

1024
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: Ucla is starting over and they do finish the Oregon though.

1025
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: That game is in Seattle, so it's pretty tasty.

1026
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: Another game that we agree on.

1027
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 2: This is bad news for you, Dan, I know, well,

1028
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: it's Sauerkraut Saturday, Colon load up on the doll Pree

1029
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: thirty ESPN.

1030
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: Auburn on the road at number nine Texas A and M.

1031
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: A and M favored by six and one half points.

1032
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: You may recall this game from a year ago. A

1033
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: and M one forty three to forty one. I believe

1034
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: in Auburn in quadruple.

1035
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: Overtime, Dan ruthe wild one yep.

1036
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: Obviously, we paid a lot of attention to what Oklahoma

1037
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: did last week. Ten sacks against Auburn.

1038
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 2: Ten.

1039
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: That was a number, right.

1040
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: Ten sounds right.

1041
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: Some of the big plays also went Oklahoma's way. The

1042
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: SEC has said that maybe some of them shouldn't have,

1043
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: but sooners have gotten a lot of love here. Auburn

1044
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: also a ton of penalties, thirteen of them. They only

1045
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: went three of fifteen on third downs. They didn't even

1046
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: eclipse three hundred yards. But all that being said, they

1047
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: did muddy it up enough to keep it close. It

1048
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: was not a clean game by any stretch, but they

1049
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: also did not get blown out, and I think if

1050
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: a few breaks go their way, we could be talking

1051
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 1: about a different outcome. Now.

1052
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: If I had.

1053
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: Wheels, I'd be a bicycle.

1054
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1055
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that the margin between Auburn and

1056
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: I think a presumed a can Census top ten team,

1057
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: to me seemed to be very slim. Yeah. My fear

1058
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: for Auburn fans is that this is going to be

1059
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: another year trapped in that limbo, because the big issue

1060
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four was a lot of dumb situations

1061
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: not converting production into wins, and it was maddening. It

1062
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: was maddening to watch, and I have no connection to Auburn.

1063
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: It was maddening. I can only imagine what it must

1064
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: feel like to root for that team and know that

1065
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: each week is going to be exactly the same. Now,

1066
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: earlier this year, they did convert one of those dumb

1067
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: situations or one of those tricky situations against Auburn into

1068
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: a win. That was a great way to start the season.

1069
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: I think that win will hold up in time. Last

1070
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: week was close, couldn't get it done. I think this

1071
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: week figures to be close. I looked at the projections

1072
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: for Auburn's remaining eight games. Seven of the eight games

1073
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: also project as being close. If you are an Auburn fan,

1074
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: it is going to be more of the same moving forward.

1075
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: And so the question is in a game like this,

1076
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: in the games like they've got coming up, what is

1077
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: it going to take to get them over that hump?

1078
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: And can they get over that hump consistently? Because they

1079
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: do have enough talent, especially on defense, they have enough

1080
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: talent to keep these games close and to put themselves

1081
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: in a position to win. It is a tall order

1082
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: to go to Kyle Field and do it. How are

1083
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: we feeling about this game?

1084
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: So it's rest advantage A and M. They've had to

1085
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: buy after the Notre Dame game, and this is the

1086
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: second straight road game for Auburn. Auburn has sort of

1087
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: shown their winning formula is defensive stops and running the ball,

1088
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: and A and M does not have or has not

1089
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: shown themselves to have a defense this year. Obviously, Notre

1090
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: Dame had a ton of success. Sure, they weren't consistently

1091
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: dominant even before the Notre Dame game. I just think

1092
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: the more we've seen Auburn against quality opponents, which right

1093
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: now we've seen them against Baylor and Oklahoma, the more

1094
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 2: there seems to be a formula. Here's like Mike Jackson

1095
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: Arnold beat You make the offensive line protect Jackson Arnold,

1096
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 2: make him go through his progressions, or make him take

1097
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: shots downfield, and hopefully the couple very good receivers win

1098
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty balls are able to get loose somehow,

1099
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: some way, and if they're able to do that, you know,

1100
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: so be it. We can live with that. I think

1101
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: Mike Elko is a very smart coach. I think having

1102
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: the advantage of a bye week, having the ability to

1103
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: self scout after the Notre Dame game and fix things

1104
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: on defense is going to be nice for text saying M,

1105
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: it's why you said three thirty Eastern kick. Yes, I

1106
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: just I can't find reasons to feel good about Auburn here,

1107
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: especially after last week, even though they were competitive in

1108
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 2: that game and they put themselves in position to win.

1109
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to take Texas A and M here thirty

1110
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: three to twenty.

1111
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: I'm on A and M thirty four to twenty nine.

1112
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

1113
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: I think Auburn continues the trend of hanging around and

1114
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: not winning, and I do think the formula of making

1115
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold beat you will be more successful than not

1116
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: over the course of the year. He is eighty seventh,

1117
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: by the way, in that PFF grade that I talked

1118
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: about earlier, two spots behind Drew Aller. So though there

1119
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: have been some moments, and though he's clearly a very

1120
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: gifted runner when he has the football, if you can

1121
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: cut off that part of his game and make him

1122
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: beat you through the air, it's not quite as effective.

1123
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: And I think A and M is good enough to

1124
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: do that. If nothing more, they're good enough to do that.

1125
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: They're good enough to win this game at home. I

1126
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: think it's close, though, and I think it's thirty four

1127
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,959
Speaker 1: to twenty nine. I think it's one of those deals

1128
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: where you like, go for too late to try and

1129
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: make it a field goal and you don't get it

1130
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: right and wins thirty four to twenty nine. So they win,

1131
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: but they do not cover at home. Agree next game,

1132
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: let's go to some under the radar games. You're cool

1133
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: with that, love to.

1134
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: Just a few to keep on the radar.

1135
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: Maybe not ones we're talking about here as headliners, but

1136
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: I've got a handful.

1137
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: You've got a handful.

1138
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: I've actually got a bunch here that we can go

1139
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: through rapid fire, high new ESPN Georgia Tech on the

1140
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: road at wake Forest. This is another point spread that

1141
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 1: I believe has jumped around a little bit. Yeah, I'm

1142
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: taking points here. Anytime I get Wake at home as

1143
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: a pretty big home dog, I'm gonna go Wake because

1144
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: I am just waiting to see who they upset. This

1145
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: to me strikes me as a team that is gonna

1146
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: be plucky as hell. They are clearly not buttoned up

1147
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: nor a finished product, but they're gonna play teams hard

1148
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: with their new coach who brought new energy. I'm going

1149
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: Wake Forest plus the points here. I think Georgia Tech wins,

1150
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: but I could see this one being closer than expected.

1151
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely agree. And if your starting point is a rest

1152
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: advantage at home and Wake has you know against they

1153
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: beat NC State but or lost to NC State, but

1154
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: they were up on NC State early. If you've been

1155
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: good against the run and you have a rest advantage

1156
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: against Georgia Tech, I think you can hang around just

1157
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: long enough. And you said this was an early one

1158
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: twelve o'clock, Yeah, I think you could have a little

1159
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: bit of just lulling them a little bit. I think

1160
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: I think they can moyer them. Jamie moyer them right

1161
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: into a weird twenty three to seventeen win for Georgia Tech.

1162
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: But I have wait covering just a bunch of off

1163
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: speed stuff and yeah, seventy eight mile an hour circle

1164
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: changes on the outfits.

1165
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: Some corners like take advantage that you know Haines King

1166
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: had an incomplete pass some third and seven that was

1167
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: open but he just missed. Yeah. Wake Forest hangs around

1168
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: and loses relatively close. High newon ESPN two. Louisville Lovo

1169
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: on the pitt.

1170
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: Louisville favored by four and a half points. A lot

1171
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: of home dogs here. If you are ever so inclined.

1172
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: I am officially off of the pit wagon at this point.

1173
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: Okay, which is why I'm back on continue.

1174
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: I just I want to forget that the preseason predictions

1175
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: ever happened, because to me, they do not look well coached.

1176
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: They I've watched all of the PIT games. Now I've

1177
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: gone back, I've rewatched. I cannot believe my eyes. I

1178
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: do not think they look well coached. I have seen enough.

1179
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: I am laying the points. I am going with Louisville

1180
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: on the road.

1181
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to give the points. Excuse me, I'm gonna

1182
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 2: take the points. Home dog, Pitt home dog of the week.

1183
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: By oh my god, are you kidding me? Kidding me

1184
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: with this?

1185
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: Not at all?

1186
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: Come on, don't make me play the sound against No.

1187
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: Why give me a reason why? Because I just said

1188
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: that they were my home dog of the week.

1189
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: I need the reason why they're your home dog of

1190
00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: the week. What is Louisville done this year that has

1191
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: impressed you so much that they should be favored on

1192
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: the road. Pitt had a bye week. Last week, they

1193
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: lose a rivalry game. It was a chaotic game that

1194
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: they had the opportunity to win. I don't think West

1195
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: Virginia is especially good this season, but it's early on

1196
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 2: in the season, and I think the Pit defense, which

1197
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: has been very very good. Say what you will about

1198
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: Pit overall, they've been very very good pressuring the quarterback.

1199
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: They get Miller Moss in a road spot. Give me

1200
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: the Pit Panthers here, fine, hometome.

1201
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: The Yokos home dog of the week. I can't believe

1202
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm off of Pitt and now you're on them.

1203
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: Do they have at least, at the very least so

1204
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: they stop the run? Pitt does right, Sure, they stopped

1205
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: the run. The defense has been at the very least

1206
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: pretty good. They pressure the quarterback. Their defensive line has

1207
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: been very good this season. They're number one in the

1208
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: country and pressure rate. So you're giving me a home

1209
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: dog who gets after the quarterback. I have watched the

1210
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: team play. I was very disappointed to see the manner

1211
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: in which they lost the West Virginia game. But can't

1212
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't define them. It does not define them. That's

1213
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: a road rivalry spot they can improve. They had the

1214
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: bye week. I'm taking pics. I'm out, It's fine, have fun,

1215
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: I'm out. Did you watch did you watch Miller Moss

1216
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: on the road last season. You're like, that's my guy.

1217
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: Three thirty Fox Utah on the road at West Virginia.

1218
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: West Virginia is a home dog of thirteen and one

1219
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: half points. Dan, Yeah, I think Utah is going to

1220
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: bounce back and blow them out.

1221
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm waiting taking West Virginia. I'm taking West Virginiak too

1222
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: many points too. So they didn't they didn't look at

1223
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 2: it against Kansas obviously, So this is Utah flying across

1224
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: the country. This is continued discussion about Devin dan Pierre's health. Yeah,

1225
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: he can't throw, really like he has not been a

1226
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: good throwing quarterback this season. Is that fair to say?

1227
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: I mean they've been a terrific rushing team. He was

1228
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: not last week. He looked terrible last week. I just

1229
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: think it's too many points. I think Utah wins this game.

1230
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: It's two many points.

1231
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: Four fifteen sec. Network number fifteen. Tennessee on the road

1232
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: at Mississippi State. Mississippi State off to a nice start. Yeah,

1233
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: they are a seven point home dog, Dan, you got.

1234
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: I have Mississippi State. So here's what you have to do.

1235
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 2: If you are going to say that this is a

1236
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: home dog week. If you're going to say that you

1237
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: like Mississippi State, you have to convince yourself that this

1238
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: is a different situation than where they were last season,

1239
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,479
Speaker 2: that they have improved, and that they're healthier obviously blake

1240
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: shape and missed the majority of last season, and that

1241
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: this is going to be a tough road spot for Tennessee.

1242
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: I think Tennessee is going to pull this out. I

1243
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: think they have more ways to win. But Tennessee's defense

1244
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: hasn't been anywhere near as good as we thought they'd

1245
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: be this season. We thought they would be led by

1246
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: their defense. I'm wrong. I'm just telling you right now.

1247
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 2: I think their defense can get better, but they were

1248
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: sort of abused against Georgia. So I'm going to take

1249
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: Mississippi State here in a difficult place to play, to

1250
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: cover this spread against Tennessee. I love what Tennessee can

1251
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 2: be long term this season, but I think Mississippi State

1252
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: also has Maybe this, maybe I should have changed my

1253
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: Saturday nickname. Does Mississippi State also have a rest advantage? No,

1254
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: they played at IU, excuse me, and it wasn't particularly pretty.

1255
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: I grant you that they played at IU, but they're

1256
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: at home. I'm gonna go with another home dog here.

1257
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: I like Tennessee. I like Tennessee. Tennessee's going into a

1258
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: bye week. It's not a letdown, it's not a look ahead.

1259
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: And I agree.

1260
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: I think there's a bit of a tendency to overvalue

1261
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi State because they're a good story. So for me,

1262
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: I hear you seven points right now, I think seven

1263
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 1: points is an okay number.

1264
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 3: There.

1265
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: Give me Tennessee minus whatever. Okay.

1266
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: It almost feel if you really like Tennessee and you

1267
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: like Tennessee minus whatever, that's a low number.

1268
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: It is a low number, and I do like Tennessee.

1269
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 2: I thought, I think Misissippi States. I think they've performed

1270
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: solidly enough at home that I feel good about that atmosphere.

1271
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 2: Seven pm.

1272
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: ESPN Arizona on the road at Iowa State. This is

1273
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: a very interesting matchup. Agree, Iowa State is only favored

1274
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: by a six points. It's here at home. You and

1275
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: I have been talking on the sly about Arizona.

1276
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: I just I'm wish casting here and a lot of

1277
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 2: I texted Bill Connolly about this. I was like, I

1278
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: just don't look now. Danny Gonzalez at three three five

1279
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: San Diego State DNA. They're running the ball, They've played nobody.

1280
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: They held down Avery Johnson, which makes them every team

1281
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: I don't know I wanted for Arizona. They've had some

1282
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: dark years and lost their coach a couple of years ago.

1283
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to stick with Iowa State in this one. Yeah,

1284
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that it's in Aims at night,

1285
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: a veteran team in Iowa State that said Ioa State.

1286
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: It's not exactly been blowing teams out.

1287
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: No disappointing game against Arkansas State that came down to

1288
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: it that was like a seventeen sixteen or something like

1289
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: that very late.

1290
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: So I understand the logic for Arizona here, but I

1291
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: just like the fact that it's at home at night.

1292
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: Iowa State has a veteran leadership, and given the state

1293
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: eight of the Big twelve, honestly, Iowa State's got to

1294
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: feel like they're inside track to get to the conference

1295
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: championship game, if not more so. I like them in

1296
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: the spot a lot. Although I do like what we've

1297
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: seen out of Arizona. It does seem like Brent Brendan

1298
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: has turned the tide a little bit and this is

1299
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: a much better team than we expected. But let's go clones.

1300
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: So I think the difference in this game is going

1301
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: to be whichever quarterback has the announcers say something like

1302
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: what was he thinking? Throwing it there less fewer times,

1303
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: because ultimately no fa Fida has not had a good year.

1304
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: He has not had a good season. Last season, he

1305
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 2: has dropped off unfortunately. The best of him is quite fun.

1306
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: But the idea of Noah Fafida going to Ames throwing

1307
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: into this defense at night, yes, yep, yep, has me

1308
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: a little bit too scared. If Arizona is indeed a

1309
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 2: good rushing team, which they've looked excellent on the ground

1310
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: so far, I always say it hasn't defended the run

1311
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: all that well. But what reason has Arizona given you

1312
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: to not load the bus thus far? And so if

1313
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 2: I would say loads the box and forrest is noaa

1314
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: Vetnam to throw into the teeth of his defense, I

1315
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: just don't trust it. So I'm going I Aowa stayed

1316
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: here to win this one. Relatively low scoring twenty to

1317
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: thirteen by you on the road at Colorado Dan. They're

1318
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: playing this one at ten to fifteen Eastern time. It's

1319
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: on ESPN BYUA six and one half point road favorite.

1320
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: They are currently three to zero. They smoked Portland State,

1321
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 2: they beat Stanford by a twenty seven to three score,

1322
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 2: and they most recently went across the country and took

1323
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: it to East Carolina by a thirty four to thirteen score.

1324
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,439
Speaker 2: Now they're on the road at Colorado this line six

1325
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 2: and a half. I've had listeners dogging me for undervaluing

1326
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: BYU always and forever, which is probably true. Sure, so

1327
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go BYU again here. I'm gonna trust what

1328
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: the folks have told me that I'm undervaluing the Koogs.

1329
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: Let's go BYU. I'm gonna go BYU as well. It's

1330
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: a late kick. It's especially late kick. It's what ten

1331
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 2: to fifteen eastern? Yep, I'm trying to do the math here.

1332
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: What is that mountain timete eight? Eight to fifteen. That's

1333
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 2: still pretty late for a kickoff local. So I'm gonna

1334
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 2: go BYU here. Obviously there's no altitude advantage for Colorado.

1335
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna screw that up again. By no way.

1336
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: You can't BYU at altitude Colorado at altitude. Colorado just

1337
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: hasn't done anything consistently well. They've played against two Power

1338
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: Conference teams and lost both of those games. They haven't

1339
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 2: played especially well this year. I like that they bounce

1340
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: back against Wyoming, but you have to believe in something

1341
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: that you haven't seen from the Buffs this year. If

1342
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 2: we believe that Byu is at the very least quality,

1343
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: is the very least pretty good, decent whatever, I'm just

1344
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: not seeing it from Colorado right now.

1345
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: So I'm goon BYU three other really quick ones here

1346
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: because we've got more to get to please Hi Noon,

1347
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: Big ten Network. Rutgers at Minnesota. I bring this game

1348
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: up for this reason. This is a weird stat that

1349
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure most people don't know about. I mentioned the

1350
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: passer grades earlier. Yeah, among quarterbacks with a minimum of

1351
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: fifty drop backs this season, the top graded PFF passer

1352
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: is Ahan caliak manis great, and Drake Lindsay, for what

1353
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: it's worth, from Minnesota is number six on that list,

1354
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: ahead of Again, what's that? What is the stat? What

1355
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: is the very specific stat? It's the PFF passer grade.

1356
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: Okay, we don't actually know what goes into it.

1357
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: Among quarterbacks with at least fifty dropbacks this season, Yeah, eighth,

1358
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: and caliak manus number one. Drake Lindsay number six. Both

1359
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: of those guys are ahead of Fernando Mendoza Dante More,

1360
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: two guys who have gotten way more attention, So, you know,

1361
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: for better teams. Yeah, I'm laying the points with Minnesota.

1362
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: I do not trust the Rutgers defense right now. They're

1363
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: favored by four and a half points.

1364
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if I trust Drake Lindsay. Okay, I'm

1365
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 2: gonna go Rutgers here. Darius Taylor is out, has been

1366
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: out missed the there's no indication that he's gonna be

1367
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: back this week or anytime soon. So I'm gonna go

1368
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: with Rutgers here to win in a shootout and not

1369
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: only cover this spread. Previously on Minnesota football, they lost

1370
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: to Cal. Yes, No, I know. Going to the hinterlands

1371
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 2: of the Bay Area is always difficult. It's difficult for

1372
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 2: excellent teams for bad teams. Whatever. They didn't lose Col

1373
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 2: by three. They lost to a true freshman quarterback by

1374
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen points. Right before Cal lost and got shut

1375
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: out by San Diego State. I don't know. Minnesota has

1376
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: lost to Cal and kind of barely beat Buffalo. I'm

1377
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 2: not sure what you're banking on. I know Minnesota finished

1378
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: that game strongly, but it was not a demonstrative win

1379
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: over the over the Bulls. So I'm gonna go with

1380
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: Rutgers here because at least I know that they can

1381
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: throw the ball well. I like the Minnesota defense. I

1382
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: think I'm going Rutgers. Why not, I'm in.

1383
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 1: Acc network at noon, it's Duke at Syracuse. It's notable because, well,

1384
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: we've got a quarterback situation at Syracuse after Steve Vangelley

1385
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: went down. I guess we're gonna get to see Ricky

1386
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: Collins here and Darry Mensa. Dari Mensa is very quietly

1387
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,839
Speaker 1: I think having a pretty good year for the Dukies.

1388
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: They are favored by five and a half points on

1389
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 1: the road in the JMA Wireless Dome. Dan, gimme Duke,

1390
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: gimme Duke minus the number.

1391
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: This is interesting. Duke has one of the worst defenses

1392
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: in America, at least past defenses in America, and they're

1393
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: allowing two point seven points per drive, good for one

1394
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty first in the nation. That said, I

1395
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 2: still think it's gonna be adjustment period for Syracuse. I'm gonna

1396
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 2: take the points, but I think Cues wins.

1397
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: And last but not least here under the radar game

1398
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: seven thirty FS one. I mentioned this one on the

1399
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: Tuesday episode as well, but app State on the road

1400
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 1: at Boise State Boise favored by fifteen and a half points.

1401
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: That line has come down as more people have seen

1402
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 1: what I have seen. That Boise State's defense stinks, and

1403
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: I don't think App State's all that good. But I

1404
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: just don't like what I have seen from Boisese defense.

1405
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: I think they win at home. They're the better team

1406
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: here for sure, but I am taking those sweet sweet

1407
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: points plus the fifteen and a half for app State

1408
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: on the road.

1409
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love app State traveling across the country

1410
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: for this one.

1411
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't either.

1412
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 2: I don't look and again, no altitude issue here. No

1413
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: one is up over three thousand feet. Now we're going

1414
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 2: to get that wrong again and Boise up a good amount.

1415
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 2: So I'm going to take Boise State here to win

1416
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: in a similar fashion to what they lost excuse me

1417
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: to what they won in last week. So they beat

1418
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: air Force by eighteen or nineteen points but gave up

1419
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 2: a bunch of points. I have Boise State here winning

1420
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 2: this one forty eight to twenty six.

1421
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 1: I like it. That'd be a fun game, all right. Yeah,

1422
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: if you do have to go out and about, shame

1423
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: on you. But if you do, and if you don't

1424
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: have a choice, try to do it before four pm

1425
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: Eastern time, because I think your ideal quad My.

1426
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 2: Question to you is how bad you really want place?

1427
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: If you want to be the quad Father, the time

1428
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: to do it is in the afternoon, because you've got

1429
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: four games at three point thirty that I think capture

1430
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: the essence of week five. You've got LSU versus Ole

1431
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: miss You've got Ohio State versus Washington, which could be fun,

1432
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: Indiana versus Aisle, which I think is a really interesting

1433
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: test really for both sides of this. And then of

1434
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: course Auburn versus Texas A and M, which should be fun.

1435
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: We previewed that one earlier. Those four games, you can

1436
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: also sub in Utah against West Virginia, which, who knows,

1437
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: if you believe Dan Rubinstein, could get a little bit

1438
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: weird if you give it a little bit of time.

1439
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: At four fifteen, you've got Tennessee versus Mississippi State, which

1440
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: right now is only a seven point line. And then

1441
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: also if you're really in it, for the deep cuts

1442
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 1: Dan at four pm. You've got the Battle for I

1443
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: twenty five, or if you prefer the real grand rivalry

1444
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: between the New Mexico Lobos and the New Mexico State.

1445
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,879
Speaker 1: What is New Mexico State? Should I know? The Aggies?

1446
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 2: Thank you got a rivalry game.

1447
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: So whatever you're into, you can kind of sub you

1448
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: can mix and match, you can make the quad whatever

1449
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: you want it to be. But that is around the

1450
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: time where I think you can get the most for

1451
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: your money. If you're sitting in front of the TV.

1452
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: If you got to go out, make sure you do

1453
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: it early.

1454
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: This is a cider donut time, right, Yes, that's right.

1455
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 2: You got those orchards out there, and PA going strong.

1456
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna be driving through a bunch of them.

1457
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm not really doing sweets right now, Ty, I'm trying

1458
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 2: to watch you know this tight figure. We'll see what happens.

1459
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 2: One quick last favorite tie. If you could drop that

1460
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 2: big stanky, convulsing arching, sweaty drum and five for me

1461
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: sweaty CONVULSI sweaty convulsing arching arching. That's a new one

1462
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 2: for you. Like arch in a back.

1463
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 3: All along.

1464
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: Twelve pm.

1465
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 1: Georgetown at two and two on the road at Columbia,

1466
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: Oh and one. We took Georgetown, Georgetown A wee could go.

1467
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: They got smoked, smoked.

1468
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: I like him this week on the road at Columbia.

1469
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: You can need the Hoyas.

1470
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm going Columbia. Big here, seventeen to three, twelve o'clock Penn.

1471
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:13,839
Speaker 2: On the road at Lehigh.

1472
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: They're driving a short ways up the northeast extension here,

1473
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: Lee High. Four to zero at home, give me lee High.

1474
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: We might see the bus. We might see the bus

1475
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: rolling out.

1476
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: You can see we could pass them. Yeah, I don't

1477
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: know if they're coming.

1478
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: In the day before.

1479
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: There's really no reason to close.

1480
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 2: But well, you gotta focus. You gotta lock in. You

1481
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 2: gotta get in that hotel. You gotta be together as

1482
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 2: a team. You gotta lock in. I'm going Lehigh here,

1483
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: thirty five to ten, one o'clock, the Battle of the

1484
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 2: Goose Eggs. We've got holy Cross at zero to four,

1485
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: Fordham at oh to four. Who you got, I'm going home?

1486
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: Team here, give me Fordham here. It's gonna be ugly.

1487
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 2: Ten to nine, ten to nine, I'm going holy Cross.

1488
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: What the hell?

1489
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 2: Okay?

1490
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: Two o'clock Howard at three and one on the road

1491
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: at Richmond, scraping clawing, getting their way to two and

1492
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: two first season in the pat League. Give me the Spiders,

1493
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: why not.

1494
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm going Spiders here.

1495
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: Three point thirty Princeton, oh and one on the road

1496
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: at your at ours at Lafayette, the Leopards are three

1497
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: and one, Dan, gimme the LEPs.

1498
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 2: I'm going Princeton here. I love Lafayette, but there is

1499
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: something special. Princeton's been planning and circling this one on

1500
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: the calendar for the better part of ten months. Go

1501
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: Tigers here. It hurts me to say it, but I

1502
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 2: don't think Lafayette has what it takes.

1503
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 1: And last, but not least, six pm Saint Francis, Oh

1504
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: to four on the road at Bucknell two end two.

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01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: Can I tell you a heartwarming story? Dan, Please, let's

1506
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: say praise please. As you know, I offended some in

1507
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: the greater Williamsport area, a person, perhaps several people, Yeah,

1508
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: perhaps in the Bucknell slash Williamsport area. One of those

1509
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: gentlemen kindly emailed me this week, emailed us to say

1510
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 1: that I have been forgiven yes, and I cannot tell you,

1511
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: kind sir, how much that meant to me, Okay, I

1512
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: am not kidding.

1513
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 2: I read that. My heart smiled.

1514
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: Thank you. I gotta take buck now now, man, I

1515
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: gotta go with the Nellies and lie to that.

1516
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: All is forgiven? Wow, all is forgiven? Didn't see that coming.

1517
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 2: All is forgiven? Now?

1518
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 1: He did say that I need to bet us American

1519
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: dollars on Oregon in order to effectively do the reverse

1520
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: thinks thing, the full reversal, which.

1521
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 2: I have not done yet.

1522
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see what the number is closer to

1523
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: the game itself. But I am not against nor will

1524
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: I turn up my nose at that idea. I would

1525
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: like to see Penn State win, even though I did

1526
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: pick Oregon, So.

1527
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 2: How am I? Thank you? Kin I'm not gonna wear

1528
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 2: Oregon gear at the white out. Have you decided you're not?

1529
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 2: What are you gonna wear?

1530
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna wear white.

1531
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go neutral now. I'm not gonna wear white.

1532
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: I'll go you know, a mint colored shirtless, vaguely green shirtless. Well,

1533
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 2: during the day, I will be shirtless. That's how people

1534
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 2: can spot me at the tailgates. I'm just trying to

1535
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: figure out, just like the rhythm of the day on

1536
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: Saturday as a visiting person rooting for the opposite Like

1537
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 2: during the game, how do I behave myself? I'm old now.

1538
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 2: I haven't been in like enemy territory in a long

1539
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 2: time in this kind of environment. So like if Oregon

1540
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: converts a key first down, do I fist pump or

1541
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 2: do I, you know, come on, let's go, or do

1542
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: I keep it under my breath? I don't want to raise,

1543
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 2: you know, suspicions if I'm surrounded by hostile ty Hildenbrandt types.

1544
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: We will be surrounded by season ticket holders, Okay, in

1545
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: our advanced age, I am pleased to say that our

1546
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: seats will have backs on them. Oh it's killer, It's

1547
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: so good. Okay, so we'll have the padded seat with

1548
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 1: the back.

1549
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: Did you see James Franklin by the way sidebar was like,

1550
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 2: I really need you guys to be loud, like, guys,

1551
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 2: this is very important. Was a little worried.

1552
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 1: There was a little bit of please clap energy there, yeah,

1553
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: which was not ideal. But I feel if the stadium

1554
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: is going to be juiced up, they'll be ready for that.

1555
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: For a night game in Beaver Stadium, they'll be ready.

1556
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: Believe me. I think the tenor of the day is

1557
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: a we got to figure out a recording situation and

1558
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: presumably set up before we go up to the game.

1559
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: But we have had more invitations to come to tailgates

1560
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: than I could possibly imagine. I do need to create

1561
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: this Google sheet and a Google map. Please do keep

1562
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: them coming if you're going to be at the game,

1563
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: we'd love to try and meet up if we can.

1564
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 2: We need to, We need food, we need to be hydrated.

1565
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: We need We got a bunch of tailgates that we're

1566
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: going to go to. But soliverbo at gmail dot com,

1567
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: please do not hesitate to reach out. Yeah, let us

1568
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 1: know where you're going to be, when you're gonna be there,

1569
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: and we'll do our part to stop buy with some goodies. Okay,

1570
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: let's try to get up to the stadium nice and

1571
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: early so that we have an opportunity to kind of

1572
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: take it all in. If you do have a tailgate

1573
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 1: that has a TV, presumably with a bunch of games

1574
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: at already that we can watch all of TV, yeah,

1575
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: we still have to try and do that. Let us

1576
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: know in your invite. We would appreciate knowing so that

1577
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: we know where to go. If we want to pay

1578
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: attention to some of these games. But I'm going to

1579
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: try and give you the full Penn State experience, both

1580
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: the night before, give you a flavor for what college

1581
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: avenue is like, and of course the day of. I

1582
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: don't think you've ever really had that. I know you've

1583
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: been to mis State, but you've never really had the

1584
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 1: full experience. So I have not I can now provide

1585
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: this for you. I'm very excited about it. With all

1586
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: that being said, please do check us out at overballers

1587
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: dot com. Get in on the game, compete for that

1588
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars gift card. If you are watching the games,

1589
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: we are still going to cut a reverb segment, though

1590
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can play it eight five

1591
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: or five herbal three. As you're watching games throughout the

1592
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,719
Speaker 1: course of the day, Shay is back in the saddle.

1593
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: He's going to help us out great.

1594
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 2: And again, the plan right now.

1595
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 1: Is to do the live stream at midnight, but of

1596
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: us a little bit of grace if it looks a

1597
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: little bit different, if it sounds a little bit different,

1598
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: if we don't get to as many games as usual.

1599
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: I think we just want to be honest with the audience.

1600
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: We're not going to be able to watch all these games,

1601
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: at least not to the extent that we normally would, right,

1602
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: So we will keep you up to speed with how

1603
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: we plan to cover all of those games, whether that's

1604
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: on Tuesday or if there is another episode that pops

1605
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 1: up in between the Saturday live stream and the Tuesday

1606
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: episode that we do every week. Make sure you're plugged

1607
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: into all of our social media feeds as well as

1608
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: the newsletter, as well as our Patreon whatever. We will

1609
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: keep you abreast of that situation as best we can.

1610
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: But I am thrilled to be doing this. Wo We

1611
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:42,839
Speaker 1: just do not go to games anymore.

1612
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 2: We have not gone it.

1613
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: We did go to one last year, but we rarely

1614
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 1: get a chance to go to games because of the

1615
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 1: recording schedule. And this is a special one because it's

1616
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: your alma mater, it's my alma mater. It is a

1617
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: solid verbowl in some sense. Yeah, and I get to

1618
01:20:58,360 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 1: give you the full experience, which would be a lot

1619
01:20:59,760 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: of fun.

1620
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 2: No brainer. Wherever you may be out there, enjoy your

1621
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 2: week five. It is a biggie.

1622
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: Make sure you've got your affairs in order, You've got

1623
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: a plan in place that you can get in front

1624
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: of the TV and watch games throughout the course of

1625
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: the weekend. Because it's gonna be a banger.

1626
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 2: Dan and I will be there.

1627
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: Make sure you plugged into our social feeds. We're gonna

1628
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: be posting like crazy over the course of this weekend.

1629
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: Let you know what we're up to, what the adventure

1630
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: is like. I'm excited, this will be fun for that

1631
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 1: guy over there, Dan, for myself, Tie, for everybody listening

1632
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,879
Speaker 1: at home. Thank you so much for downloading, for supporting,

1633
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 1: for tagging along with what we do. We'll catch you

1634
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: all on Saturday Night's day.

1635
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 2: Song Peace