1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: You've not got a free shot on all these networks 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: lying about the people. The people have had a. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Belly full of it. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: tried to do everything in the world to stop that, 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: And where do people like that go to share the 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: big line? 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Mega media? 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: these people had a conscience. 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: If that answer is to save my country, this country 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: will be saved. 17 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: War Room, use your host, Stephen K. 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: Ba Well, Welcome to the War Room on a very 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: special Boxing Day Special. Those of you who have followed 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: the Warroom and indeed the old Brightbart News Daily radio show, 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: know that it's somewhat of a tradition in the Warroom 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: that Stephen K. Bannon hands over the reins to be 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 3: for Boxing Day for the Boxing Day Special every year, 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: where we kind of do a roundup of the year's events, 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: we explain a little bit what Boxing Day is, because 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: I know that it is particularly a British tradition, but 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 3: we're trying to kind of make it a thing again 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: here in the United States. So welcome to the WARRM 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: on this Thursday, the twenty sixth of December of the 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: year of Our Lord twenty twenty four. I will do 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: somewhat of an introduction for myself for those of you, 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: because I know this audience is growing every single day, 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: every single week, every single month, and of course every 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: single year. But for those who don't know me, or 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: might have kind of seen me but don't really know 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: where I fit into this whole operation, my name is 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: Raheem Cassam. I am, of course britishues you can probably 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: hear from my accent. I used to work for Nigel Faraj, 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: the now Reform Party leader in the United Kingdom. I've 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: worked for and with Stephen K Banden for far longer 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: then I wish, quite bragly, and far longer that he 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: wishes I imagined, quite brakly. I was the London editor of 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: Breitbart dot com for many years. I am now the 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: editor in chief of the Nationalpulse dot com, which I 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: want to talk to you guys a little bit about 46 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: over the course of this show, as well as well 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: as all of the other fantastic new right leaning truthful 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: media sites and operations that are out there at the moment. 49 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 3: And you know, I guess my role now in this, 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 3: in this broader movement, has been I think the New 51 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: York Times referred to me as the Ombardsman of the 52 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: Marga movement for quite some time, or perhaps I think 53 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: maybe I referred to myself as that and they quoted me. 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 3: But that is that is kind of where we sit. 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: That is what the National Pulse does. We are very 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: much the first to a lot of stories that you 57 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 3: hear about kind of two days, two weeks, sometimes two 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 3: years down the line. 59 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: A couple of days ago. 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: On the show, Steve noted how I was in Ukraine 61 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: in twenty thirteen trying to wave the ring the alarm 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: bells and tell people, hey, you know, we face an 63 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: existential crisis, we face a hot war. There's a color 64 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: revolution going on here, and you can see that across 65 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: the board with so many things. So I was one 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: of the co founders of the Warroom with Steve Bannon, 67 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: with Jason Miller back when it was originally an audio 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 3: only show before Real America's Voice came along and picked 69 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: it up and did such a great job in distributing 70 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: it and producing this televisual experience that you have. But yeah, 71 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: Jason Miller, myself and Steve we kind of went through 72 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: all of the early impeachment detail. We had members of 73 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: Congress who would stop by, and we operated it exactly. 74 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: Like an actual political. 75 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: War stacks of papers highlighted which we were going through. 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: We had a team of great researchers at the time, 77 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: and you know, we'd be in that office. We'd be 78 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: in that warrem from about from about seven o'clock in 79 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: the morning through midnight most days throughout that impeachment process, 80 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: going through deep diving all of the information, all of 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: the data, cross referencing the links. You know, when they 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: did that to President Donald Trump, they had just so 83 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: much in terms of apparatus, staffing, money at their disposal, 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: and the counter narrative operation between the lawyers and kind 85 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: of what we were doing externally with the Warrem was 86 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: really a very very tiny, tight knit group of people 87 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: who just kind of came together and said, we believe 88 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: this to be a complete and total lie. We're going 89 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: to go through these documents the same way that you 90 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: guys are all the witness testimonies. Those of you who 91 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: followed along with impeachment, I mean, you will remember on 92 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: a day to day basis just what tensive labor process 93 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: that was. We'd never been through anything like that before. 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: It was a first for many of us going through 95 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: that level of detail, that level of data. All these 96 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 3: foreign names, all of the Ukrainian names, all of that 97 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 3: would come up. And honestly, not to take anything away 98 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: from what the show does today, but that was kind 99 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 3: of my favorite iteration of the show because we were 100 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: just so heavily invested in the actual witness testimony and 101 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: things like that's where I live, that's where the national 102 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: pulse is, that's what we do for a living. We 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 3: actually get into the nitty gritty, We get into the 104 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: detail of things, and it's my absolute favorite thing to do. 105 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: You can say the same about polling data. We've been 106 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: doing that for years upon years. You can find me 107 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: writing about this stuff back ten fifteen years ago, maybe 108 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: about how the polling industry works, why you get certain 109 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: levels of responses. You know, when this an Seltzer thing 110 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: came up, in Iowa. It was so obviously immediately obvious 111 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 3: to anybody who understands how to go through numbers like 112 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: that and to go through detail like that, that it 113 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 3: was a complete fraud, And it was fraud, another fraud, 114 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: another hoax being perpetuated, not just on the American public. 115 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: By the way, remember how much the rest of the 116 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: world has invested in who the president of the United 117 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: States was. So it was another hoax perpetuated on the world, 118 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: on the global community as they like to call it. 119 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: In Washington, d c. 120 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: And at the Hague, and in Brussels and in the 121 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: city of London. 122 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: The global community was being hoaxed yet again, as we 123 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 3: were back in twenty twenty, as we were during COVID. 124 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: And it isn't it funny, you know when warrem impeachment 125 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: not even had wrapped up, but we had this, we 126 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: had this pandemic coming down the pipeline. And again this 127 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: show was at the cutting edge when that information was 128 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: coming out of Wuhan. You know, people are sick, people 129 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: are falling down in the street. Nobody knows what this is. 130 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: We put the two and two together on the first 131 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: on the very first episode of Warren pandemic. We had 132 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 3: Jack Persobic, We had a bunch of others later on, 133 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: amazing whistleblowers, doctors, some of us, some of them who 134 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: were no longer even with us today, I'm afraid, but 135 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: just shows how kind of how far this all goes back, 136 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: and how invested people were in the truth telling process 137 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: in all. 138 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: Of that that you had. 139 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: Concurrently, you had to have a warroom impeachment and twenty 140 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: twenty operation running parallel with a warm pandemic operation, and 141 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: that kind of doubled the scope, doubled the research level 142 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: of everything that was coming out of these offices. And 143 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: of course Real America's voice was there with us all 144 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: along the way, helping us with that, you know, to 145 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: get the real information out. Hey there's a lab that 146 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: we might want to look into. Hey, that lab actually 147 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: may have been funded by the US taxpayer. Hey, they've 148 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: got this deal with Anthony Fauci and Peter Dashak, you know. 149 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: And it was Natalie Winters who first made the connection 150 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: between doctor Fauci and Peter Dashak back at the early 151 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: in the early days of war and pandemic, and of 152 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: course everything you're seeing now today as a part of 153 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: the investigations that are going to be taking place as 154 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: a part of what cash Pateell is going to be 155 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: doing inside the FBI. All of that as a direct result, 156 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: you can run the pattern right. 157 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: Back down to that moment. 158 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: All right, that's the tailor of the tape and everything 159 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: that came out of this Warum. So I'm delighted to 160 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: be here with you all today and bring you a 161 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: show that is you know, I wouldn't say that it 162 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: is the most intensive of shows in terms of the 163 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: day to day news of the operation today, but it's 164 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: an intensive show when we think about where we go 165 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: now over the next four years, how the next administration 166 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: gets staffed up properly, accurately with true believers, with people 167 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: that are willing to put their shoulders to the wheel 168 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: on getting the right things done. Because really, ladies and gentlemen, 169 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: I know this audience especially probably doesn't need me to 170 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: say it, but you know, you have four years, You 171 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: really only have about eighteen months when you really only 172 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: have about twelve to sixteen months really to hit the 173 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: ground running to get what needs to be done in 174 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: day one and week one, by the way, probably the 175 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: most important parts of all of this and we're here 176 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: kind of acting as the ombudsman for all of that, 177 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: you know, calling I think you say, calling balls and strikes, right, 178 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: making sure that the people who have let down President 179 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: Trump over the last four years. Yeah, I think of 180 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: it as kind of the Dark years, the Wilderness years, 181 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: the Mara Lago years, whatever you want to call it. 182 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: But so many people, so many people. And you know, 183 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: I say this not as a political talking point, but like, 184 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: we lost friendships, personal long term friendships over that primary, 185 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: over the GOP primary, with all of these people who 186 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: kind of toddle off into the DeSantis camp because there 187 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: was a promise of a paycheck or a job or 188 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: whatever it is. And don't get me wrong, you know, 189 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: Governor Desanders is on a wonderful job governing in Florida. 190 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: I don't need to tell this audience that, and I 191 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: certainly don't need to tell the people who lived in 192 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: Florida throughout the pandemic, especially that right, and then the 193 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: fight that he's taken to the school boards on the transgenderism, 194 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: on the on the books, these deviant books that they're 195 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 3: trying to shove down in kids' throats. But what he 196 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: did was he made a fundament. I know, I'm jumping 197 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: around here a lot, but that's that's kind of what 198 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: I do. It's kind of what my mind does. So 199 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: you got to stick with me for the changes here 200 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: to quote back to the future. DeSantis came along and 201 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: he kind of acted like and his team around him 202 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: acted like, Okay, we need to find some way to 203 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: marry the old gop bushy era Cheney what's his name, 204 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: col Rode with his little whiteboard and all that, we 205 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: need to marry them with the Magabas. And kind of 206 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: what they ended up doing is trying to force it 207 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: down the Magabas's throats that this was the only way 208 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: that they were going to win another election. And they 209 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: were telling us day in and day out, You're never 210 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: going to win an election with Trump. You're never going 211 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: to get the electoral college victory, let alone a popular 212 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 3: vote victory, right, And I kind of looked at it 213 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: at the time and I was like, listen, you guys 214 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: are entitled to your views. You're nuts, but you're entitled 215 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: to your views. I mean, there wasn't a single person 216 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: in that camp, by the way, who I think of 217 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: as a savvy political operator. And I tell them that 218 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 3: to their faces, and I've told them that to their faces. 219 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: You know, some of our old friends jumped ship and 220 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: went over there. So it's it's been a heck of 221 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: a year. It's been a heck of a last eighteen months. 222 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: I know that so many of you out there know 223 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: that as well. I meet so many of you out 224 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: there when I'm on the road. I'm not just hold 225 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: up on Capitol Hill and Washington, DC all the time, 226 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: although I'm there far more than I wish I was, 227 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: quite frankly, but I've been there through the darkest, through 228 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: the wilderness years. You know, there were only a handful 229 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: of us, of these people that you see on television 230 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: and in podcasts and on social media who actually showed 231 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: up at Mara a Lago when President Trump announced he 232 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: was running again. A lot of people hedge their bets. 233 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: A lot of people didn't show up that day. And 234 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: by the way, we kind of got mocked for it. 235 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: You know, Olivia Newsy rip to her career, you know, 236 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: Olivia Nuzy, who wanted to who wanted to get jiggy 237 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: with RFK, you know, over text message, she wrote this 238 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: nasty piece saying like, hey, you got you got Raheem Cassam, 239 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: Seb Gorka and bricksuit Man is the most recognizable faces 240 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: at Mara a Lago during the announcement. So perhaps it's 241 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: not going all that well for President Trump. And I 242 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: called her up and I said, hey, f you, I'm 243 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 3: sorry to speak in such unglamorous terms on Boxing Day, 244 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: but I told her, you know you, you are making 245 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: fun of me for being one of the people who 246 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: actually sees where this thing is going, mark my words, 247 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: watch where it goes? 248 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: Now? 249 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: Who knows where she is right now after she got 250 00:12:53,160 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: unceremoniously defenestrated by her bosses over there at New But listen, 251 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: some people get it and some people don't. Right, some 252 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: people understand the trajectory of history and some people don't. 253 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: And what you saw back then, what you saw during 254 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: that primary campaign, was again one of these things that 255 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: we see all the time, and we cannot allow it 256 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: to happen in January. We cannot allow these people, these 257 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: never Trumpers, these people who are ready to jump shit, 258 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: to go over into the White House or into the 259 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: State Department, or be on these landing teams. I'm sorry, 260 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: you made your bed now lying it. You made your 261 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: choice you can figure that out for yourselves. So over 262 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: the course of this show, we're going to reflect on 263 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: this last year. I very much appreciate the beautiful music. 264 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 3: I'm afraid my words may not be so beautiful over 265 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: the course of the next two hours. But hey, we're 266 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: not taking a break this Christmas. We're spending this time 267 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: to get all our ducks in a row, to get 268 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: all our plans in place, and to make sure that 269 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 3: in like there was in twenty sixteen, we went in 270 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: there and you had all staff going there, and you 271 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: had three factions going there, right, you had the Family faction, 272 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: you had the RNC faction, and then you had the 273 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: Marga faction, right the ban and faction, and everybody's was 274 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: kind of at each other's throats, and some people didn't 275 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: get what they want and some people got rolled and whatever. 276 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 3: We're here to make sure that that doesn't happen again. 277 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: Everybody has to be on the same page, and that 278 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: page that Donald J. Trump won a mandate from the 279 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: historic mandate from the American people, and he must be 280 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: allowed to execute on that mandate without anybody standing in 281 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: his way, without anybody leaking to the press, without anybody 282 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: any of these anonymous people or deep state holdovers. It 283 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: cannot be allowed to happen. So we're gonna have Will 284 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: Upton on the show with us, my political editor Jack Montgomery, 285 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: as well my deputy editor Chris Tomlinson at the National Pulse. 286 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: Also, we're going to walk you through all of these things. 287 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: Stick around, stay tuned, follow the National Pulse at the 288 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: net Pulse on X we'll be right. 289 00:14:53,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: Back war Room. Here's your host, Stephen Kban. 290 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: Well, we've given Stephen k Ban and the day off here. 291 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: It is Boxing Day, the twenty sixth of December, the 292 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four, and we'll be 293 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: getting into that and a lot of the twelve Days 294 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: of Christmas, which we tend to do every year at 295 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: the National polls to remind people of the importance and 296 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: what it means, what the Yule Tide period actually means, 297 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: and why each separate day kind of has something spiritual 298 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: associated religious, very Christian iconography associated with it, and where 299 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: you know, how we need to think about those days, 300 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: how we need to think about those moments. Jack Montgomery 301 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: will be on with us later on to unpack all 302 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: of that, and he does just a magnificent job at it. 303 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: I want to say, well, I have your attention, your 304 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: undivided attention. There's nobody right now to come in over 305 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: the top of me and say hang on, hang on, 306 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: hang on. I want to say, well, I have your 307 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: undivided attention. You know, the last couple of weeks I've 308 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: been on the road, and that has been more and 309 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: more of my life. I always tell myself that I'm 310 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: going to take a little step back, take it a 311 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,479 Speaker 3: little bit easier, you know, maybe just kind of take 312 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: a secondary role and maybe write another book. There's so 313 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: much to be written about the last ten or twelve 314 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: years as well. I've been in so many of the 315 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: rooms that you wouldn't even believe by the way hearing 316 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: some of the conversations, meeting some of the characters, and 317 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: so I want to do all that for history's sake, 318 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: really to get that down on paper and on the record. 319 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: And then I get dragged into something else, and you know, 320 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: whether it was the New York Republican Gala. I mean, 321 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: by the way, for those of you that don't know, 322 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: gala season as they call it in the political world. 323 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,479 Speaker 3: In the nonprofit world, is so much fun. But absolutely 324 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: mind boggling as well. You kind of just that every 325 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: night you're doing the same thing, and you're seeing a 326 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: lot of the same faces, and you're kind of, you know, 327 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: going through the motions, doing all the networking. What are 328 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: you hearing? What do you know? 329 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: What's the latest? 330 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: It's great, it's obviously a great opportunity for people to 331 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: come together. And there's there's nothing better by the way 332 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 3: than face time, then actual face to face human interaction. 333 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: And too often we are talking down. 334 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: The line to each other like this, right, too often 335 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: we are we are facetiming on our phones rather than 336 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: in person or zooming or skyping or telephone calls or 337 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: text messages or DMS or whatever it is, right, And 338 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: and you can you can't, really, I don't think you 339 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: can ever escape. You know just how important it is 340 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: to shake hands with somebody, to look them in the eye, 341 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: to pat them on the shoulder, you know, to be 342 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: present in a moment with somebody. And so these things 343 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: are great for all of that, but man are they exhausting, 344 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 3: you know, And they happen all around the country. So 345 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: we start I started in DC. We did a couple 346 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 3: of things over there. We went up to New York. 347 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: We did the gala there thousand plus people at Chipriani 348 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: in Manhattan, the finest venue in New York City, planting 349 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: the MAGA flag right there in Lower Manhattan, and a 350 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: huge shout out to Gavin Wax and Vish Borah and 351 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 3: the whole team over there. At that New York club 352 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: they started with, they had they had forty members when 353 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: they took over the club like four years ago. They 354 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: just passed sixteen hundred paid up members. 355 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: Who are who are? 356 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 3: They're not just there to party, although they are very 357 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 3: good at that. I can I can testify to that firsthand. 358 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: And it takes a lot for Rheim Cassam to give 359 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 3: people their partying dues. Believe me, I have a high 360 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: bar of high tolerance. But they're they're they're door knocking, 361 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: they're canvasick, they're doing the phone calls. 362 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: You know. 363 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 3: They were instrumental in just how much the ground shifted 364 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: for Donald Truck. I mean that Madison's Garden rally that 365 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 3: was just absolutely historic for multiple reasons, but was absolutely historic, 366 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: would never have happened were it not for Gavin and 367 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: the team. The Bronx rally, same thing, the trip to 368 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 3: the Bodegas, the endorsements from the Steamfitters Union, you know, 369 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 3: all of these things that were part of a wider piece. 370 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: That peace being victory, right, that. 371 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 3: Piece being a victory so gigantic, so massive, so overwhelming, 372 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: that the Democratic machine downed tools the day after the 373 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: election and they said, we don't know what to do 374 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: with this, we don't know how to handle this. 375 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: Now. 376 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: I'm not saying they've gone away, Absolutely not. And I 377 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: think we cannot be for a second complacent about where 378 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: they stand as an operation at right now, because they're 379 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: going to get more radical, They're going to get more extreme. 380 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 3: They're going to become more vengeful, as you know, as 381 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: a wounded animal being cornered, and they will lash out 382 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: and lash out. And I think we're going to see 383 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: it on January sixth in Washington, DC. And I want 384 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: everybody coming into town to be extremely careful and have 385 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 3: their wits about them, because I think there are going 386 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 3: to be some fringe elements are who are in the 387 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: midst of taking over, by the way, in the midst 388 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: of taking over the left wing in a massive way. 389 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: And you saw chenk Wiga go over to Amfest and 390 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 3: kiss the ring right and if you didn't see it, 391 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: you should see it, because they understand. They get now 392 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: all of these people who for the last decade have 393 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: told me looked at me square in the eye and said, 394 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 3: I don't know how you can do this populism stuff, 395 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: you know, and holding their nose while they say it. 396 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's dirty, it's filthy, it's disgusting. Why do 397 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: you want to be around ordinary people? And I always 398 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: look back at them and say the same thing is 399 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: that the ordinary people built this country. The ordin people 400 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: built Western civilization, and there's absolutely nothing ordinary about them. 401 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: They are, in fact the extraordinary people. It's the people 402 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: who are the leeches on that effort. And whether it 403 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: is this security effort, you know, for the people who 404 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: served their country, served in the military, anything like that, 405 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: or the whether it's the people who have physically who 406 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 3: physically get that hat. 407 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: You know. 408 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: One of the things that I learned, and I bring 409 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: will will Upton into this conversation. Second, one of the 410 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: things that I learned, you know, having spent many years 411 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: with Steve Bannon over the years, like up close and 412 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: personal understanding his mental freightwork, how it all works. Because 413 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: I think we all agree ladies and gentlemen. He's kind 414 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: of nuts right in the best way. You can see 415 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: the cogs moving, you don't know quite where they're going 416 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: to go, and you kind of just have to try 417 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: your best to follow along. Is the old Bright Bart 418 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 3: News radio show. It was one of the things that 419 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: really clued me up onto how how you actually get 420 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: to understand what's going on out there in the country. 421 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I can go to New York, 422 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 3: and I can go to la and I can go 423 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: to Phoenix, but you know, the big cities will scarcely 424 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: tell you anything real. They might give you a vague sense, 425 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 3: especially out in some of the suburbs, what's going on 426 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: in people's day to day lives, affordability, things like that, 427 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: and actually you've got to get far. 428 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: Deeper into it. 429 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: I know I'd have to tell you this, but it 430 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: was that radio show. And the reason it was that 431 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: radio show was because it was a call in show, 432 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: and so I think we will be up at six 433 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: to nine am, So it had to be in the 434 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 3: studio at five am, which for those of you. 435 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: Who know me, you know it was difficult. 436 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: I guess sometimes I would come straight from the pub 437 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: to the studio and it's six o'clock in the morning, 438 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: and the entire call boards are lit up. Everybody wants 439 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 3: to hey. And I remember them by name, you know, 440 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 3: lew in Connecticut, Vinnie in New York. You know, Vinnie's 441 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: no longer with us. I'm afraid, you know, we stayed friends. 442 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: You know he was. 443 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: He was a fantastic guy, and his family and his 444 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: and his kid, absolutely fantastic people, serving, serving their country. 445 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: And you would hear from them every single day, what's 446 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 3: going on in the country. All these people were call 447 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: in and they were They were truck drivers, and they 448 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: were homeschooling moms, and they were there were. 449 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: The farm owners. 450 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: And you get to grips with a level of information 451 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: and a level of detail about the lived experiences of 452 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: the so called ordinary Americans. The what I think of 453 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: is the extraordinary Americans, right, people who actually roll their 454 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: sleeves up and get their hands dirty and leave a 455 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: legacy for their kids and for their grandkids, the generational 456 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: struggle that they face. Well, Upton, let me bring you 457 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: in here. We've got a couple of minutes here in 458 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 3: this block. We I want to carry over to the 459 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: next one too. I've developed bannon itis, which is which 460 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: is the the involuntary ability to rant down a camera lens. 461 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 3: I call it bannon itis. So you have to forgive me. 462 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: But we got another a block on the back of 463 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: this as well. 464 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: Well. 465 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 3: We've had an extraordinary eighteen months and you know, you 466 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: and I have known each other actually for far longer 467 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 3: than we've worked together. I was so delighted when you 468 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: came to one day and you were like, hey, you know, 469 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: I'm a free agent if you've got anything going at 470 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 3: the National Pols. Because I was like, nobody knows that town. 471 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: Nobody knows Marga, you know, at an institutional level better 472 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 3: than Will Upton, and I think you show every day 473 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: on the Site's let's get into the last year and 474 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: if you have any thoughts on the things I just said, 475 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: please feel free to weigh in. But let's you know, 476 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: let's talk about the last eighteen months to bring people 477 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: from you know, because it went so quickly, right, it 478 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: went so fast, but in a lot of ways, it 479 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 3: was probably some of the most painful stuff that we'll 480 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 3: ever go through in our political lives. 481 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: Will Yeah, that primary was wolf a happy boxing day. No, 482 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: I think you bring up a really good point you're 483 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: talking about the Colin Show. This is something that I 484 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: noticed during the primary, and it carried over to the 485 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: general election and that this and it started to do. 486 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: Santus campaign. They completely missed sort of the primary electorate. 487 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: They focused sort of on your traditional predominantly evangelical, predominantly 488 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, upper middle class, sort of high income, modern 489 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: education level to high education level, evangelical coder. But since 490 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Trump has sort of brought in a whole 491 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: new demographic to the Republican Party, typically working class, you know, 492 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: the large portion of them are Hispanic, smaller portion are 493 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: black men, large portion are white males without college education. 494 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: And Trump is the only one who has ever really 495 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: sort of offered these people anything on the policy front, 496 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: whether it's integration, whether it's it's trade, reassuring jobs. You know, 497 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: this has been sort of the message that has propelled 498 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: the MAGA movement, the America First movement, you know, the 499 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: sort of anti foreign or ventionism movement, has propelled all 500 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: of this forward. And in the early days of the 501 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: primary kind of sat there and looked into the Santus 502 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: campaign and they had their big Twitter rollout and they 503 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: were kind of messaging on sort of the you know 504 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: Florida where woke does to die, things like that, and 505 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: none of this really, I thought, resonated with what is 506 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: now a large portion of the GOP electric and these 507 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: people are actually registered Republicans now, especially after twenty twenty. 508 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: And we'll hold it. 509 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 3: Hold that thought right there, Hold that thought right there, 510 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 3: because we've got to go to a quick break. But 511 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: hold it right there, absolutely right. It was a failure 512 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 3: to recognize the moment. It was a failure to recognize 513 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: the changing nature of the GOP base and what Donald 514 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: Trump had actually brought to the equation here without that, 515 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: no Electoral College vote, no popular vote. We'll be right 516 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 3: back with Will Upton hit on the Warroom. Boxing Day 517 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 3: Specials don't go anyway. 518 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K Man. 519 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: Welcome back to this Boxing Day special. 520 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: You're in the war Room. 521 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: I'm Raheem Kassam, one of the original co founders of 522 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: this show, obviously under Stephen K. Bannon alongside Jason Miller, 523 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: and we have all had kind of, i would say, 524 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: kind of a busy year quite frankly, although as you know, 525 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 3: one of us did go in vacation in Danbury for 526 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: a couple of months over the summer, came out with 527 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: a you know, wonderful Tan, look at all svell you 528 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: knows great. I don't know, but Steve's got the day 529 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: off today, so I'm in the driver's chair here leading 530 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: you through this boxing day. Specially, I'm delighted to be 531 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: with you, ladies and gentlemen. It's one of my probably 532 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: actually Amy so one of my is my favorite audience 533 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 3: in the whole world, because I meet so many of 534 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: you every single time I'm out there at these events. Obviously, 535 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: we did Amfest Amfest sorry last with Charlie Kirk and 536 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: the extremely I mean, just mind blowing turning point operation 537 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: that was there. I think they're staff, they're volunteers that 538 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: run that event. Yeah, a lot of them, just kids, 539 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: writ college kids, volunteering their time, their spare time to 540 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 3: make sure that event runs effectively. I think they now 541 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: number in the thousands actually, or at least a thousand 542 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: people that they have. They're on the ground in Phoenix 543 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: at that convention center, and it's just an incredible sight 544 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: to behold, because look, I've run things all my life. 545 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: Will will Upton bring will back into this in a moment, 546 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: and Will will tell you that I am a particularly 547 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: hard taskmaster at times. 548 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: I don't sort of. 549 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: Deal very well with what I perceive to be lethargy 550 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 3: or laziness or things like that. Not to take any 551 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: shots at Will directly, by the way, but it's just 552 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: a blanket attitude that I have towards everything that I've 553 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 3: ever run in my life. And you know, for Charlie 554 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: to be running an operation like that and to have 555 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: as many people working under him as he does, I mean, 556 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: you've got to understand Ajam And I know lots of 557 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: you run your own companies out there, and know how 558 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: hard it is. 559 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: You're getting into the numbers that he's dealing with. 560 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: Twenty thousand attendees, one thousand plus people helping run the event. 561 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: You've got to deal with social. 562 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: Skurity, secret service, You've got to deal with the local 563 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: police departments. You've got to deal with all of these things, 564 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: and it's just it's extraordinary. So you make sure that 565 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: you support those people that you go to those events. 566 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: I love it because I get to meet so many 567 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: of you, and I have an almost broken wrist by 568 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: the end of it from shaking so many hands and 569 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: taking so many selfies, but it keeps us going because 570 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 3: we don't get that level of support. You know, when 571 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: I walk down the street in Washington, DC, you certainly 572 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: don't get that level of behavior people coming up to 573 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: you in restaurants in bars. 574 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 575 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: I can't even begin in to tell you how much 576 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: it means to me when somebody says to you, oh, 577 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 3: I read your work, I share it. 578 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: You know. 579 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 3: We're members of the National Pulse. That is, by the way, 580 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: that is the music to my ears. Because we are 581 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: one hundred percent reader supported, I don't want to have 582 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: to put a paywall on it. Although you know, if 583 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: people don't join up voluntarily, we're gonna have to get there. 584 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: We have to underwrite this organization. We have to keep 585 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: it going. We have to keep the real news out 586 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: there and grow the organization. By the way, and the 587 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: website for those of you who want to join, is simple. 588 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: It's the National Pulse dot com forward slash warroom. Okay, 589 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: the National Pulse dot com forward slash Warroom. It's two 590 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: bucks a week, ladies and gentlemen less quite frankly, I 591 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: think it's one dollars seventy three a week. 592 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: So I'm not asking you. 593 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: And by the way, we have a donate section if 594 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: you want to donate money. It's bigger than National Pulse, 595 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: dot com, forward Slash donate and if you if you 596 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: want to, you know, throw more cat That's great. 597 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: We love all those people. 598 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: I'm extremely grateful for it. But our sustaining base of people, 599 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 3: our thousands upon thousands of members or what keeps us 600 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: going day in and day out. And I'm going to 601 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: keep talking about it over the course of this episode 602 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 3: because I will be frank with you. We go into 603 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: a year now where a lot of people take their 604 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 3: foot off the accelerator. They go, well, we won the elections, 605 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: so you know, we can just kind of let Trump 606 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: and the team now make America great again. 607 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: Right. It doesn't really work like that. 608 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: You know, you have to have your allies across different 609 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 3: sectors running interference. You know, we have to have the 610 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: will Upton's doing the requisite fact checks on the false 611 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: narratives that are being perpetuated out there. We have to 612 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: have in depth reporting, real news reporting. You said it, 613 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: so this week, this last couple of days when they 614 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: release the or leaked I should say, the Congressional Ethics 615 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: Committee Ethics being. 616 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: The word leaked in a deeply. 617 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 3: Unethical manner, their report into Matt Gates, to sully him up, 618 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 3: to besmirch his name, to try and tell the world 619 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 3: he should never come back to Washington, DC. 620 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: He's not allowed in these hallowed halls. 621 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: Forget the fact that we've been paying off, you know, 622 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: sexual harassment accusers for the last several decades at least, 623 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: and using taxpayer money to do it, by the way, 624 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: your money, ladies and gentlemen to do it. No, Matt 625 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: Gates is the problem because he went to a couple 626 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: of parties and maybe he had a sugar daddy relationship 627 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 3: with a girl one day, you know, by the way, 628 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: a girl who was overage. 629 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: You know, these lies that they tell about this. 630 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: Underage girl, and Matt's approach to this always the same. 631 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: Bring it into a courtroom. Then if you have the. 632 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 3: Evidence that this ever happened, show it to a court 633 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: of law, and let me defend myself against these allegations 634 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: in a courtroom. And guess what, they never do that 635 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: very thing. We'll bring Will will Upton back into the 636 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: conversation here, Will That's obviously been one of the main 637 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 3: themes of the last couple of days I interrupted you 638 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: over the course of the break, we're talking about the 639 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: primary process. Let's marry those two up. How do we 640 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 3: get here. Let's talk about Kevin McCarthy. Let's talk about 641 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 3: Mike Johnson. Let's talk about this budget crisis that we 642 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: got going on here, because it's crazy to me the 643 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 3: way that the GOP establishment appears to have learned absolutely nothing. 644 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Kevin McCarthy was ousted for basically 645 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: trying to marry a debtlmit deal to a cr with 646 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: government funding. This is something that he had promised he 647 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: would not do when he was first elected speaker with 648 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: part of the conditions of him becoming speaker, and Matt 649 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: Gates rightfully held his feet to the fire on it, 650 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: and for the first time ever in the United States history, 651 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: a motion to vacate the speaker's chair actually passed through 652 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: the House. The last time it was used was in 653 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: the nineteen tens against Speaker Cannon, who actually used it 654 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: against himself and like a power move to basically like 655 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: lay it on the table and be like I'm the 656 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: big guy in the room. But yeah, and then you 657 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: fast forward today we find ourselves again in the same 658 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: situation now, you know, Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, 659 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: they kind of put us in this budget scenario where 660 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: we have to do this continuing a resolution every December, 661 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: right before Christmas. It used to happen, you know, at 662 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: various points throughout the year when funding would kind of 663 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: run out. But now it's just it's set for December. 664 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: And then the whole goal was the jam members right 665 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: before Christmas and sort of ran through a big, expensive 666 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: cr and and call it a day. Now. Now, thankfully 667 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: this time we had a lot of pushback from from 668 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: activists and just you know, rank and file people at home, 669 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: and rank and file members of Congress that you know, 670 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: prevented a fifteen hundred page continued resolution. A continued resolution 671 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: shurely be like anywhere between four and nine pages. Really 672 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: it's just changing a date and saying or extending government 673 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: funding for three months. But you know, thankfully there was 674 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: there was a kind of a groundswell pushback against it, 675 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: and we ended up with about one hundred and sixteen 676 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: page continue resolution. It's only that long really because it 677 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: had a bunch of disasterate for the victims of the 678 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: hurricanes in Florida, North Carolina, then wildfires out west. But like, 679 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: if it had not been for that, you know, Mike 680 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: Johnson probably would have ran through this fifteen hundred page 681 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: bill in the dark of night, and very few members 682 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: of Congress, if any other than the men behind closed 683 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: doors who wrote it, would have ever read the damn thing. 684 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's right. Well, you know, the spotlight 685 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: being on these people seem to change their at least 686 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 3: public statements, in public behavior just a smidgeon right, just 687 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 3: enough to kind of although really interested in it's taking 688 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 3: a little bit heat off them. 689 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 2: But I keep telling people, you know, you can play. 690 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: Whack a mole with this House speaker as much as 691 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: you want, but unless you get to the crux of 692 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 3: the issue, right, the structural problems up on Capitol Hill, 693 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: then they're going to be playing and whack them all 694 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: for the rest of your life. So let's talk about 695 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 3: that a little bit here, because look, it comes down 696 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 3: to this. You know, big, big, major corporation can buy 697 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 3: a member of the House or remember the Senate. And 698 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 3: I keep telling people, hey, listen, they didn't write their 699 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 3: own pay rise into that fifteen hundred page legislation. 700 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: The lawyers, the lobbyists. 701 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 3: The appropriators who wanted that bill passed wrote in a 702 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 3: bribe in the form of a pay rise into that bill. 703 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: That's what it was. So talk to me a little 704 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: bit and talk to the audience who doesn't really understand 705 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: how that built, because look, Mike Johnson ain't sitting there 706 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 3: writing a fifteen hundred page bill. Okay, who's writing that? 707 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 3: And how do we make them famous? 708 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 709 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: So the people will write these bills. It's it's the 710 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: Appropriations Committee. It's it's key members of the Senate and 711 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: the House usually committee chairs. A good way to identify 712 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: some of them is to see, like who kind of 713 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: got bills that they had that they had sponsored that 714 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: really hadn't moved. If they suddenly appear as a as 715 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: a new title in this bill, that's it's a good 716 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: bet that person had a hand in it. There's a 717 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: certain senator from Texas who I know a lot of 718 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: people like Ted Cruz. He had taken down Act, which 719 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: is an anti deep fake mill. It has sort of 720 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: languished in the Senate for the better part of the years. 721 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I believe it was titled nine 722 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: in the fifteen hundred page CR whole bills in there. 723 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: But mostly that's it's written behind closed doors, so you 724 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: don't know exactly who is in that room, but it's 725 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: going to be sort of leadership aids, and then you're 726 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: appropriators and powerful committee chairs. And this is the way 727 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: Congress really runs. Like we sit there and people want 728 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: to criticize Mike Johnson and sort of point the finger 729 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: at him, and at the end of the day, he 730 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: is the speaker and the buck does stop with him. 731 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: But in the House, the day to day the stuff 732 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: that we really don't like often the real perpetrators are 733 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: these committee chairs. Are are the Appropriations committee and and 734 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: are their staff and their sort of lobbyist buddies there there, 735 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, sort of pay masters. At the end of 736 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 1: the day, that's who's really behind a lot of this stuff. 737 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: And I think that as as we sort of move 738 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: forward into the into this next Congress, it would kind 739 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: of who people, I think, to sort of look into 740 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: who you know, who's running appropriations now, who you know 741 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: the former Kay Granger, of course, just showed up in 742 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: an assistant living facility and hasn't taken a vote since July. Thankfully, 743 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: she stepped down to the committee last spring. But you know, 744 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: and looking at you know, Tom Cole runs the committee 745 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: now congressman from Oklahoma, but you know who some of 746 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: these committee chairs are, and really pay attention to what 747 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: legislation they're moving and what they're doing on their day 748 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: to day because that's where the real power lies in 749 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: the House especially. 750 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 3: See well, I mean, maybe I'm crazy. I'm one of 751 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 3: these guys who thinks if you're going to do all 752 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: of this stuff now right those and really turn everything 753 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 3: on its head, let's talk about let's talk about manifest destiny, right, 754 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: We're talking about Canada, we're talking about Greenland, and we're 755 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 3: talking about the Panama Canal. 756 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 2: If you're going to do all of. 757 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 3: These and even if you're going to talk about them right, 758 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 3: if you're going to start introducing that kind of revolutionary 759 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 3: thinking back into the American national psyche, then you've got 760 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 3: to apply that same level of radical thinking to Capitol 761 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 3: Hill too. 762 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 2: I want to see an open. 763 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 3: Source bill making process right on the blockchain, where people 764 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: can see every single person, who is it on the 765 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 3: committee staff who's added this line and why and what 766 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: are their interest? Who is it on the appropriation staff 767 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 3: that added this line and you know what is it 768 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 3: about that? 769 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 2: You know? What are their names? Who are these people? 770 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 3: You work for the government, You're a public servant, You're 771 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 3: using taxpayer money, and by the way, you want a 772 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 3: hell of a lot more of it to spend on 773 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 3: your pet projects. 774 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 2: Then I think we need to know who you are. 775 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 3: And that is my pledge over the course the next year, 776 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 3: because if we're not going to get the money directly 777 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 3: out of this right now day one, then at least 778 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 3: we need to know who is on the receiver end 779 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 3: of that lobbyist and lawyer cash will hangover, hangover on 780 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 3: the break, I want to bring you back for the 781 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 3: last segment in this hour. We've got Jack Montgomery in 782 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 3: the next segment talking to us about the Twelve Days 783 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 3: of Christmas. Is going to bring in Chris Tomlinson, another 784 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 3: one of our great writers. Over at the National Pulse. 785 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 3: We talk about what's going on in Europe at the moment, 786 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: because it is blowing up over there right now, Germany, France, Italy, 787 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 3: the United Kingdom. We're going to go through all of it. 788 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 3: I hope you all had a very happy Christmas. But 789 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 3: we are back with our shoulders to the wheel here 790 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: at the Warroom. 791 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm grateful for you joining us. 792 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 3: Make sure you're following us on social media, all the 793 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: Warroom pages, across all of it, The National Pulse on 794 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 3: X I'm at Raheem Cassam, R A H E E, 795 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 3: M K A S S A M across all the 796 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 3: different platforms, coming in harm the gram. As Boris would say, 797 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 3: stick around. We'll be right back after this break. 798 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. 799 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 3: Bah. Welcome back to this special Boxing day edition of 800 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 3: The War Room. I'm Raheem Cassam, joined by our political 801 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 3: editor at the National Pulse, Will Upton. 802 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: Will. 803 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 3: We had got a brief segment here. 804 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 2: I know I've talked. 805 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 3: I told you I got bannon itis, which is basically 806 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,479 Speaker 3: where you cannot disconnect from the microphone here in front 807 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 3: of you. And this is this suddenly becomes your best 808 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 3: friend for two hours, and I want to throw it 809 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 3: to you now where you know, where are you summarized 810 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 3: over the last eighteen months, anything you want to reflect 811 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 3: on from the last eighteen months. 812 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 2: But where are we going? 813 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 3: And you know, let's maybe talk a little bit about 814 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 3: the transition process and how I wish they hadn't driven 815 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 3: that wedge between Project twenty twenty five that that employee database. 816 00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 3: Remember Project twenty twenty five was not the document original. 817 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 3: You know that everybody held up and said, oh, you know, 818 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 3: this is crazy town blah blah blah, and that Trump 819 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 3: had to end up distancing himself from the original. Twenty 820 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 3: twenty five project was just a database of pure MAGA 821 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 3: staffers who had worked in the first ADMIN who were 822 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 3: true loyalists. You know, these people who put their shoulder 823 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 3: to the wheel every single day twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, 824 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, who didn't abandon Donald Trump after 825 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: January sixth. There's so many people out there who did, 826 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 3: and that was what that thing was originally for. 827 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 2: And then it all got muddied up. 828 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 3: You know, you could talk about heritage and all of 829 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 3: this stuff, but let's talk about that because as I 830 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 3: understand it to this day, you know, the staffing process 831 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 3: coming coming along a little slowly, and there are some 832 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 3: and there are some people that we need to be 833 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 3: looking out for. 834 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 835 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're just now getting landing teams up and 836 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: a lot of these agencies, these are usually kind of 837 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: experienced staffers who are around either in the first administration 838 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: or prior presidential administrations who were sort of in charge 839 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: of getting in there sort of scene where things stand 840 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: and then beginning to bring in sort of that permanent 841 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: political staff that Trump will a point, you know, with 842 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: Project twenty twenty five. You're absolutely right like that. The 843 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: Heritage every year puts out a mandate for leadership and 844 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: it's basically a big policy book. It's not Project twenty 845 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,280 Speaker 1: twenty five, but it's you know, the database was twenty 846 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: twenty five where where it still seems like they're going 847 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: to try to draw a lot of names from for 848 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: people who appoint to a lot of these positions in 849 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: the federal government. But a lot of this sort of 850 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: infighting there I think has slowed that process. Is absolutely correct, 851 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: but you know, the transition is underway. It is moving slowly. 852 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: Although I would credit them on their economic team that 853 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: they've put together is absolutely fantastic. You know, Scott Best 854 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: sent over Treasuries the next Treasury Secretary, very incredible economic mind. 855 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: His number two, Michael Faulknder I work with the Treasury Department. 856 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: He'll be the depth sec. Michael is one of those 857 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: really human beings I've ever seen kind of an action. 858 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: Stephen Miron was just named to the Council of Economic Advisors. 859 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: He'll be sharing that Stephen was kind of our in 860 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: house economist of Treasury. He really the only reason why 861 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: I know anything about economics whatever. I just questions. I 862 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: just ask Stephen h and I still do. I still 863 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: consult in quite a bit. You know, you've kind of 864 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: got this team slowly getting into place here. That that is, 865 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, really the guys that were around the last 866 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: time that were able to sort of put together that 867 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: robust and sort of booming Trump economy. So I on 868 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: that front, I think that we've got kind of the 869 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: ducks in order, and things are running pretty smoothly. You know, 870 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: elsewhere we've seen some problems. The State Department is always 871 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: a concern, and and it's a place where you really, 872 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: I think, truly need people who are battle harded and 873 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: battle ready because your your careers over there, your career 874 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: federal employees, your career bureaucrats, your career diplomats. It is 875 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: a viper's den. These these guys, uh, some of them 876 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: are almost more loyal to the kind of the countries 877 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: or regions which they work with than they are to 878 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: the United States, and they are predominantly far left leaning 879 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: and they hate the president eleft. So I think there's 880 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: a concern there that we're maybe going too soft and 881 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 1: and to go along to get along at the State Department, 882 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: which again I want to flag with a big concern. 883 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: And then of course we're going to see you know, 884 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: both within sort of the GOP establishment and among the Democrats, 885 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: the big guns come out from people like Taulca Gabbard 886 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: and for for Robert F. Kennedy Junior. 887 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: Uh. 888 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: And we've already seen it with Pete Haggs at the 889 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: Department of Defense. But you know, the delay in getting 890 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: the landing teams down I think is you know, concerning, 891 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: But it does seem like at least on the economic front, 892 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: they've got things well underwent. 893 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right. 894 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 3: Well, I think I tend to agree with you on 895 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 3: that the state stuff really worries me. Some of the 896 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,439 Speaker 3: domestic stuff worries me as well, seeing seeing certain people 897 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,479 Speaker 3: going into certain landing teams. 898 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 2: Now, listen, some some of the people have. 899 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 3: Gone in and then you know, maybe maybe somebody like 900 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 3: Raheem Cassam has dropped a tweet or two and suddenly 901 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 3: they're not in anymore. And that's okay, you know, if 902 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 3: we need to be the clearinghouse, if we need to 903 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 3: be on the on budsman, I'm happy to be unpopular 904 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 3: with the people. I love being unpopular amongst you know, 905 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,839 Speaker 3: I'm not interested in being a good buddy to those 906 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 3: people who have worked in Rhino Hill offices for all 907 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 3: their lives or at ronn of McDaniel's RNC, quite frankly, 908 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 3: and you'll never You'll never change my mind about those things. 909 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to hang out with you. 910 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to come to your little receptions where 911 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 3: you're drink you know, bladdered wine. You know, cross me 912 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 3: off the list, delete my email address, delete my phone number. 913 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 2: I'm not that interested in it. Right. 914 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 3: What I will say is this, I don't think you 915 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 3: can be too hard on that situation. I think I 916 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 3: think you know, the tendency of President Trump to be 917 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 3: a uniter is it's a good character trait. It says 918 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 3: lots of good things about him as a human being. 919 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 3: But in going in back into Washington, d C. I 920 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 3: don't think you can be too hard and too vindictive 921 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 3: quite frankly, against the people who abandon you the people 922 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 3: who talk bs about you for so many years. That 923 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 3: applies across the board, whoever you're hiring in politics, in media, 924 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 3: like we should be building up new media organizations, not 925 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 3: inviting the CNNs back in, not inviting the ABCS back in. 926 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 3: You know, there was a lot to talk about with 927 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 3: that as well, how the press operation works. All of that, Well, 928 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 3: we got about a minute to go here. Tell people 929 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 3: where they can find you, how they can follow your work, 930 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 3: and what a great boss I am. 931 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can follow me on on x formerly Twitter. 932 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: It's just at watton wupto in you can read all 933 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: my writing at the National Pulse. That's the National Pulse 934 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: dot com. And Raheem's a great So we see I 935 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: did a lot so it makes things easy. 936 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,959 Speaker 2: But that's absolutely true. 937 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 3: You know the real secret of it is that I 938 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 3: actually just listened to the things that Will says and 939 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 3: kind of and kind of connect the dots. So he's 940 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 3: the real mastermind behind the operation, as with Jack, as 941 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 3: with Chris, as with my whole team. By the way, 942 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 3: Sandy and all the guys who have such an amazing, 943 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 3: amazing contribution to how the National Pulse operates. Will Happy 944 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 3: Boxing Day, I hope you had a very happy Christmas. 945 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 3: And we'll we'll, we'll, we'll talk after the show. Thank you, 946 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen. Stick around. We've got a killer second 947 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 3: hour here in the break. However, you can just go 948 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 3: to the National Pulse dot com forward slash war Room 949 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 3: sign up if you're already a member. By the way, 950 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 3: go to the National Pulse dot com forward slash Gift 951 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 3: and give somebody else the gift of real news. 952 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this break.