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Speaker 1: It's media podcast. Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia, the only

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Speaker 1: game show where conservation always wins. I am your special

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Speaker 1: guest host today, Mark Kenyon, and this week I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by Giannis Clay, Brent, Maggie, Bear, Tony Spencer and Heather.

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Speaker 1: This is a ten round quiz show with questions from

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Speaker 1: Metator's four main verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking.

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Speaker 1: And there is a prize. Mediator will donate five hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars to the conservation organization of the winners choosing. And

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Speaker 1: today we have a lot of new faces, a lot

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Speaker 1: out of towners here in the studio, which is exciting,

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Speaker 1: but two of them our first time appearance folks on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Here, we've got Bear and Heather. Heather, how

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Speaker 1: are you feeling here today?

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't convincing, to be honest, I'm ready, you're ready? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: She studied all night.

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Speaker 3: Heather was thinking she needed to.

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Speaker 1: Practice for this. Oh how do you practice?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You gifted me the game I did.

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Speaker 4: We've used all those questions though, so I don't think

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Speaker 4: they'll show up today.

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Speaker 1: Here's my only concern, Heather, right out the gate. I

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Speaker 1: do know that you were not good at guessing people's

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Speaker 1: ages because you you Yeah. Last night, supposedly separately, both

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Speaker 1: Corey and Tony told Heather that I am twenty four

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Speaker 1: years old, and she bought it a blind and sinker.

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Speaker 5: It's not hard to do.

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Speaker 3: Would you have told that joke if she would have

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Speaker 3: thought you were fifty one?

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Speaker 1: No? Probably not. I am, in fact thirty seven. But

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Speaker 1: if you were to have a specialty in trivia, what

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Speaker 1: would you think that would be? Is there something that

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Speaker 1: you're particularly good at or or week in from our

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Speaker 1: four verticals, hunt, fish, cook, conservation.

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Speaker 2: Strengths, I'd say traditional.

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Speaker 6: Knowledge, okay, Jen edgenis culture.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep? What about you? Bear Well, I'll be honest.

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Speaker 7: Every time I listen to the trivia and like keep

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Speaker 7: track of my score, I'm always like bottom of the pack,

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Speaker 7: Like I don't know where Brody is pulling out all

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Speaker 7: this random.

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Speaker 1: It's your dad's fault.

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Speaker 5: Actually, Brody's almost seventy years old. That's a lot of experience.

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Speaker 5: That's where that comes from.

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Speaker 1: Heather guess sixty eight.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll study that time.

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Speaker 2: They did give me some hints.

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Speaker 6: I didn't study, but pollinators I should have studied pollinators.

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Speaker 2: Oh yep, butterflies.

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Speaker 1: In all honestly, that will help you today. These are

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Speaker 1: these are here if you are a book reader, that

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Speaker 1: will help today. That's all the clues I'll give you. Okay, uh, Spencer,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of folks here in town. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to let the audience know why we have

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Speaker 1: all these hopes?

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Speaker 4: In times like once a year, I feel like the

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Speaker 4: whole crew gets together and we shoot guns and look

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Speaker 4: at new products and record some podcasts. There's gona be

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Speaker 4: some fresh voices on radio today. And then Clay Newcomb's

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Speaker 4: in the in the captain's chair. Just just general moseyan.

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Speaker 4: That's what bar Newcomb says he does at home that

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Speaker 4: he every day he does some general moseying to which

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Speaker 4: is very annoying to his dad Clay. When Clay says, Barry,

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's just so nondescript. Yeah, liked for a

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Speaker 3: your parents if you're just trying to be nondescript, like.

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Speaker 1: The word aha. It just we're just general mosey. And

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Speaker 1: it does seem incredibly on brand. That Clay Sons says

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Speaker 1: something like that, So you've trained him, well, Uh, how

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Speaker 1: do you feel outside of the driver's seat, Spencer? Is

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Speaker 1: this like? Do you enjoy this or are you nervous?

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Speaker 4: I like playing and I wouldn't entrust someone in hosting

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Speaker 4: And as as Yanni had said, having you pace him

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Speaker 4: for the last ten miles of his one hundred mile

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Speaker 4: race was what was your reason, Yanni? Because you just

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Speaker 4: trust that Mark will do like a good job. He'll study,

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Speaker 4: he'll try hard, right.

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Speaker 5: That's right, that's right. And Mark is new to running

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Speaker 5: ultra running, and I thought that would be a it

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Speaker 5: get something out here he'd be appreciative of to be there.

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Speaker 4: To your first point, he's just organized, he will try hard,

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Speaker 5: I'm excited, which he did do for me. If anybody's

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Speaker 4: Pacing, Okay, what would have been a bad job besides

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Speaker 5: Just like not being able to do to do enough talking,

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Speaker 5: not being able to keep up the positive positivity that's needed.

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Speaker 1: Would you guys talk about Well, to be clear real

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Speaker 1: quick before Yanni says anything, a key thing he mentioned

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Speaker 1: at the very beginning, he was a Mark, I don't

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Speaker 1: have much of me right now, so don't ask me questions,

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Speaker 1: do not interview me, just talk at me.

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Speaker 5: So I told him. I was like, I got it.

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Speaker 1: Give me for an interview, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mark was just getting podcast at you.

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Speaker 1: That's what I did. What'd you podcast about? Knowing me?

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Speaker 1: Basically gave him like five book reports.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got to know about a lot of books,

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Speaker 5: some of Mark's new projects he's working on here at

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Speaker 5: meat Either.

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Speaker 1: That was good.

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Speaker 5: What else?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I told you about my recent backpacking trip with

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Speaker 1: the kids, some of our fun summer exploits, talked about

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Speaker 1: my Iowa Dear plans, and and then generally just just

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Speaker 1: told Yanni how proud I was of him and how

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Speaker 5: And he wasn't he wasn't quitting. One of another buddy's

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Speaker 5: pulled up in his truck jamming some Wu Tang for

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Speaker 5: us to get get me fired up, which was working.

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Speaker 1: And while Wu.

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Speaker 5: Tang's blaring out of the truck, Mark still.

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Speaker 4: That's true, I'm also excited because the person hosting get

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Speaker 4: some constructive feedback from the people playing to which Tony

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Speaker 4: that I'm certain he will be upset with you at

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. We have that kind of relationship.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. And there's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a withdrawal, I think for Tony because usually when we

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Speaker 1: have these big meetings here in town, they make us

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Speaker 9: I know it's been a nightmare at night because I've

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Speaker 9: had to just build a little Mark Kenyon out of

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Speaker 9: pillows and draw a little mustache on it. But it's

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Speaker 9: not the same snuggling level.

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Speaker 1: It's just different.

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Speaker 8: I can tell you some websites for that time.

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Speaker 1: It's not quite the same. Anyways, maybe it's time to

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Speaker 1: think that's all the little bits and pieces we need

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Speaker 1: the drop.

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Speaker 8: Phil, Oh, let's get Can we just get to it?

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Speaker 1: Look, I need to know what I stand to win everything.

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Speaker 1: You just tend to win.

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Speaker 10: Everything, Gamon suckers.

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Speaker 4: Phil isn't used to someone asking him to play the drop.

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Speaker 4: He's used to someone like demanding him. It's like the

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Speaker 1: Then what's the point?

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Speaker 1: Wait too, sorry about that?

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Speaker 6: Is it best to get if we don't know, is

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Speaker 6: it best to just leave this blank?

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Speaker 1: Or get go ahead and guess? There's no You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna lose points for anything, so so give it a shot.

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Speaker 5: And funny guesses are funny, but they don't get you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and also feel free to like yack it up.

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Speaker 1: Talk with us makes noise, try to distract other people.

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Speaker 3: That there's So when you competition coon hunt, you're you're

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Speaker 3: very different than if you actually went coon hunt with somebody,

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Speaker 3: And so you might lose a competition coon hunt by

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Speaker 1: Kind of knows who won. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You kind of like I've been in many hunts where

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Speaker 3: I was like, everybody in this truck knows my dog

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Speaker 3: way I feel about trivia, so good A good A

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Speaker 3: good answer is sometimes better than a right answer.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what dog that was. Anyways, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: we will be easing you. We're going to ease you

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Speaker 1: first question is multiple choice. All right, so question number one,

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Speaker 1: our all right, we go. In the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: one cult classic hunting themed film Escanaba in the Moonlight,

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Speaker 1: what was the name of the character who's chevy took

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Speaker 1: diese escanab in the Moonlight. It is a terrific film.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to ask you all about if you've

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Speaker 1: seen it, well, it's all in the eye of the beholder.

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Speaker 4: My friend, we reviewed it for the Meat Eater Movie

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Speaker 4: Club on Media to Radio.

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Speaker 1: I knew it talks about it at some point. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see if any of you guys are up on

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Speaker 1: this one. How many of you have seen this movie,

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Speaker 1: Razor Gain? Oh wow, Oh, there we go too, all right,

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Speaker 1: how many of you have heard of Escanaba in the Moonlight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this was the year you were born, right.

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Speaker 5: You know, a roundabout way of founding out about escanab

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Speaker 5: come back the third year and they are fired up.

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Speaker 5: They're like, Yanni, we found this saw this movie from

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Speaker 5: the state that you're from.

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Speaker 1: It is awesome.

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Speaker 5: That's how I found out about escana the Moonlight.

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Speaker 9: This is just a window your soul buddy.

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Speaker 1: This whole show is exactly that total.

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Speaker 1: just like a bone fish or you know, a big

439
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Speaker 1: brown trout or something. But then imagine a six foot

440
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Speaker 1: long fish that weighs one hundred and fifty pounds, exploding

441
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Speaker 1: out of the air and jumping three, four or five

442
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Speaker 1: feet in the air. And these fights with these fish

443
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Speaker 1: can last hours. I only had to fight my fish

444
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Speaker 1: for something like twenty five minutes, but I know people

445
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Speaker 1: who have had a fish on the line for two hours,

446
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Speaker 1: four hours, twelve hours. It is mind blowing. I've never

447
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Speaker 1: experienced anything like it. I remember when that fish came tight,

448
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Speaker 1: when I when I saw this fish coming at the fly.

449
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Speaker 1: A strip set the only way I can describe that feeling.

450
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Speaker 1: And I think this is something a lot of people

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Speaker 1: can relate to. It's like if you were holding a

452
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Speaker 1: very large dog on a leash and it sees a

453
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Speaker 1: squirrel and that moment when the dog you're not expecting it,

454
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Speaker 1: but that dog explodes and chasing that squirrel and you're

455
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Speaker 1: holding the leash on the other side, and all of

456
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Speaker 1: a sudden, that was what you felt, this explosion at

457
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Speaker 1: the end of the line. Is that dog tries to

458
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Speaker 1: chase the squirrel. That's kind of what that one second

459
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Speaker 1: moment felt like when it came tight and uh and

460
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Speaker 1: then from there it was just insane.

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Speaker 9: So the dragons or all of these questions designed so

462
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Speaker 9: you can just brag to the room.

463
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Speaker 1: All of these questions are designed so I can talk

464
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Speaker 1: about stuff. I like, that was a great storyline.

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Speaker 3: You did a great job to transfer in the passion

466
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Speaker 3: and energy that. But change this, change this story to

467
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Speaker 3: a all going after a bear.

468
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Speaker 1: Everyone knows what that feels like.

469
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Speaker 3: Yes, Like every part of your story just needs to

470
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Speaker 3: be as flashy as possible.

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Speaker 1: I get that flashy me.

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Speaker 3: I knew that a squirrel dog would be a little

473
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Speaker 3: bitty dog. Yeah that lation it feel like you had to.

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Speaker 1: Brim on in my mind, I was imagining like a

475
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Speaker 1: Great Dane or Rottweiler, like in a city park, right, yeah, yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: because because.

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Speaker 3: This doesn't know what he's what he's talking about.

478
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Speaker 1: Because the thing is like with every other kind of fishing. Usually,

479
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Speaker 1: when you feel the take of a fish, there's usually

480
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Speaker 1: like a bend in the rod. Right, Your rod's like this,

481
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Speaker 1: and you feel like the tunk tunk, and you set

482
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Speaker 1: the hook or something like that. But in this case,

483
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Speaker 1: there was no rod or real intermediary. The rod's pointing

484
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Speaker 1: straight out the fish, and the line is connected straight

485
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Speaker 1: from my hand to the fish, so there's there was

486
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Speaker 1: nothing else in the way. It was simply my hand

487
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Speaker 1: on the line and this seventy five pound fish on

488
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Speaker 1: the other straight connection. What's he doing is coffee? I'm

489
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Speaker 1: trying to kill myself. All right, we got some you

490
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Speaker 1: don't like Atlanta sharping, We can move to question number four.

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Speaker 3: That's all right, friend, Question number four, Britt just put

492
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Speaker 3: fake poison in this coffee for those.

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Speaker 1: Who are.

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Speaker 5: The story about it.

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Speaker 1: Cooking, cooking. Question number four, what's the name of the

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Speaker 1: popular meat pie like dish that's uniquely popular in both

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Speaker 1: the up of Michigan and Butte Montana. Oh my gosh,

498
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Speaker 1: what is the name of the popular meat pie like

499
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Speaker 1: dish that is uniquely popular in both Michigan's upper peninsula

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Speaker 1: in Butte, Montana.

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Speaker 4: Who makes them better? Yanni, Michigan or Montana.

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Speaker 5: I've had one in Montana.

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Speaker 4: Have you, Spencer, I've had one in Butte. I have

504
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Speaker 4: not had one in Michigan, though.

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Speaker 1: They're dang good in Michigan.

506
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Speaker 4: But claims to have like more Irish, like a higher

507
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Speaker 4: density of Irish people than Ireland. Something like that. They

508
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Speaker 4: make some outlandish claims about interesting how Irish they are.

509
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Speaker 1: It's a lot of miners come over to the state.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, that's going to be in the flavor text.

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Speaker 1: I bet, hmmm, just might be.

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Speaker 3: Now are there are there two common names for this?

513
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Speaker 1: I mean there could be, like the plural and the singular.

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Speaker 4: It would have to satisfy that it's the popular dish

515
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Speaker 4: in Michigan and Butte, to which I think there's only

516
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Speaker 4: one answer.

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Speaker 1: There is only one answer, but I would accept the

518
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Speaker 1: singular or plural answer. Yeah you have it, don't you? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How are we? Are we good? I don't think you

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Speaker 1: have I have to do something. Yeah, no more blanks, Heather,

521
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Speaker 1: you got to put a food dish to change it?

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Speaker 4: When win the game against Clay that Clay plays where

523
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Speaker 4: it's like not actually going for score.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're coming, just trying to make it.

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Speaker 3: Come on, come on, you just like give us show us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not off the cup.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's probably you were the one who inspired this

528
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Speaker 1: very funny, uh video idea, Brent calling folks up in

529
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Speaker 1: the middle of the night when they're trying to fall asleep.

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Speaker 2: And I wasn't in.

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Speaker 6: It's I'm the producer, behind the scenes, the talent.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Heather, you in.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how to spell it, but I'm guessing

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Speaker 6: it's wrong. But uh, it's a meat pie dish from

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Speaker 6: the Middle East, My mom's Middle Eastern and it's called

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Speaker 6: three I think.

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Speaker 2: Is how you say? It's so good? That's my favor.

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Speaker 1: It's meat is it? Yes, Yes, it's time. Let's see

539
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Speaker 1: your answers. Heather said, Bear said, Shepherd's Pie, Tony Pasty,

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Speaker 1: Spencer Pasty, Maggie Pasty, clay Min's meat pie, Yanni pass

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Speaker 1: the Brent pro ge. The correct answer is pasty. A

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Speaker 1: pasty is a No, it's a savory. It's a savory

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Speaker 1: handheld meat pie like dish. Imagine like a grown up

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Speaker 1: hot pocket. According yeah, pasty. According to the Upper Peninsula

545
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Speaker 1: Travel and Recreation Association past These were the original fast

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Speaker 1: food of copper miners and lumberjacks, brought here from the

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Speaker 1: mining region of Cornwall, England UP, which is Upper Peninsula UP.

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Speaker 1: Wives would fill the rolled out dough with leftover beef, potato, onion,

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Speaker 1: and rudebega, fold the pastry in half, seal the edges,

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Speaker 1: and bake. Legend says the miners would take these golden

551
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Speaker 1: pastries into the mines and reheat them on a shovel

552
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Speaker 1: over their lantern candles. Pretty cool. I like that. That

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Speaker 1: was really cool. Mark.

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Speaker 5: We recently had a similar question about a similar product

555
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Speaker 5: called a kolachi oh that you can find in Texas.

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Speaker 1: You can find so how many of you have had

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Speaker 1: a pasty? You three of you? They're good. They're all

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Speaker 1: over the up. Do they have them up in like

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Speaker 1: northern Wisconsin at all? I haven't seen them. I don't

560
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Speaker 1: go to northern Wisconsin fair enough I do. I've never

561
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Speaker 1: seen one. They're worth a try for anyone who's not

562
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Speaker 1: had them. Very tasty. You can get kind of different

563
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Speaker 1: versions of them. Are they a deer camp staple or not?

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Speaker 4: Not?

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Speaker 1: From my dear camp. But we're below the bridge, so

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Speaker 1: maybe up in the up So there's the you know,

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Speaker 1: the Upper Peninsula of Michigan is separated from the Lower

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Speaker 1: Peninsula by the Mackinaw Bridge, which is this very very

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Speaker 1: long bridge across the Great Lakes there, and the Upers

570
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Speaker 1: would like to say that people like me are trolls

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Speaker 1: because we live under the bridge. Yeah, and so we

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Speaker 1: technically can't claim the pasty. That's a up thing. But

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Speaker 1: when I'm here in Montana, I can claim it. How

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Speaker 1: do they say it? How do they say that the

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Speaker 1: pasty or pasties past and they like nasty? Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. They're funny. They've got their up accent, but

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Speaker 1: I guess to be a pasty good if you want

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Speaker 1: a pasty.

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Speaker 4: Bill's been working on his accent over there. Sorry, he

580
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Speaker 4: might even debut it on this episode. Said, okay, let's

581
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Speaker 4: move along. Question number five. The topic is public lands.

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Speaker 1: What public land agency is responsible for managing our nations?

583
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Speaker 1: Fifty eight point five million acres of inventoried roadless areas?

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Speaker 1: What public land agency is responsible for managing our nations?

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00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: Fifty eight zero point five million acres of inventoried roadless areas? Yanni,

586
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Speaker 1: you looked surprisingly slow on that one. I thought you

587
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Speaker 1: were going to be right away.

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to make sure I was understand in

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Speaker 5: a question correctly. I'm pretty confident my answer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think you'll get it. Anybody else feeling

591
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Speaker 1: very confident, Maggie was quick. Maggie being involved in the website,

592
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Speaker 1: I think has a strong chance of this because I

593
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Speaker 1: would think that we've written about this.

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Speaker 10: Now I'm questioning myself, really trick, Maggie.

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Speaker 5: Did you write a little editorial that prefaced the three

596
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Speaker 5: UH poaching articles? Was that you that decided to put

597
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Speaker 5: in that little editorial up top?

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Speaker 1: Must not be in the email?

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Speaker 5: It came out and Jordan, that was good. I like that, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that was good.

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Speaker 1: Appreciated that this is This is an agency that manages

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Speaker 1: some segment of our public lands, and they are responsible

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Speaker 1: for inventoried roadless areas. That is the key. Who has answers?

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Speaker 1: I have a wrong one. I'll read the question one

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Speaker 1: more time and then we're going to wrap it up.

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Speaker 1: What public land agency is responsible for managing our nation's

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Speaker 1: fifty eight point five million acres of inventoried roadless areas.

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Speaker 1: Let's get those answers in here. Heather. All right, Heather

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Speaker 1: says the USDA, which is the Department of Agriculture, which

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Speaker 1: does manage the US Forest Service. Bear says BLM, Bureau

611
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Speaker 1: of Land Management, Tony says, National Forest Service, Spencer, National Forest,

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Speaker 1: Maggie National Forest, Clay, US Forests, Yanna, US Forest, Brent,

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Speaker 1: US Forest. The correct answer is the US Forest Service.

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Speaker 1: I think that maybe we should give to Heather because

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Speaker 1: it does fall underneath the USDA, so I would be

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Speaker 1: willing to give you that one. The correct answer is

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Speaker 1: the US Forest Service. In two thousand and one, the

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Speaker 1: US Force Service announced the Roadless Rule, which protected the

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Speaker 1: US Forest services remaining fifty eight point five million acres

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Speaker 1: of roadless lands in a nearly undeveloped state. According to

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Speaker 1: Trout Unlimited, the Roadless Rule was originally created in response

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Speaker 1: to the growing backlog of costs associated with maintaining the

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Speaker 1: more than three hundred and eighty six thousand miles of

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Speaker 1: roads spanning the National Forest System nearly four hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: miles of roads across the US Forest System. For more

626
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Speaker 1: than twenty years, the Roadless Rule has conserved backcountry, public

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Speaker 1: lands and waters while providing flexibility for the first Forest

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Speaker 1: Service to steward these high value landscapes through active management

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Speaker 1: that improves forest health and allows for natural resource development.

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Speaker 1: These multiple use areas sustained native trouton sand and support

631
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Speaker 1: wildlife with unfragmented corridors, and offer irreplaceable backcountry hunting and

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Speaker 1: angling experiences. But earlier this summer, Secretary of Agriculture Brook

633
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Speaker 1: Rowlands announce her department's intentions to rescind the Roadless Rule

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Speaker 1: and roll back those protections for our fifty eight point

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Speaker 1: five million acres of our last remaining roadless areas in

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Speaker 1: the nation. If you want to learn more about that

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Speaker 1: and the implications for hunters and anglers and wildlife, we

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00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: just dropped today an episode of the Wired Hunt podcast

639
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Speaker 1: on this very topic with the CEO and president of

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Speaker 1: Trout Unlimited. His name is Chris Wood, and he worked

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Speaker 1: at the US Forest Service in two thousand and one

642
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Speaker 1: in the late nineties and actually was very deeply involved

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Speaker 1: in writing the Roadless Rule and coming up with this

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Speaker 1: whole thing. So it's a very interesting conversation about how

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Speaker 1: this all came to be, why it came to be,

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Speaker 1: what it does for wildlife and hunters and anglers, and

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Speaker 1: what it would mean, if this actually gets.

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Speaker 5: Removed, Heather, you got a bunch of country in your

649
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Speaker 5: neck of the woods right protected by this rule.

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Speaker 1: It's a big deal. In with tongus.

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Speaker 5: How's this going to affect you?

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00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 12: Rule?

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Speaker 5: You like the rollless rule?

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Speaker 10: We got a.

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Speaker 6: Well, I have a lot of opinions about this whole topic,

656
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 6: more than more time we want to spend here talking

657
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 6: about it. But yeah, we got to protect our our land.

658
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, check it out two thousand and one.

659
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 4: It's in into infancy. I feel like most big conservation

660
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 4: meaningful bills and x are fifty one hundred years old. Yep,

661
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 4: I didn't know that was so modern.

662
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Yep, twenty twenty four years old. Just like, just like

663
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: I never thought about that. All right, Films, I believe

664
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: it's time for a scoreboard update. Do you have one

665
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: of those forma?

666
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 11: It is indeed in last place. Spent too much time mosying.

667
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 11: I suppose Baron Newcomb has zero points, come up next

668
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 11: to Heather Duville with one. Tony Peterson and Brent Reeves

669
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 11: have two points. Spencer new Hearth and Clay Nucom have

670
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 11: three and tied up in first place. A Giannis putell

671
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 11: Us and Maggie Ubblow with four points.

672
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: Oh, Maggie, could be your day, Megs. So yesterday we

673
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: were walking out of the hotel and Tony says to me, man,

674
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: nobody understands the amount of micro stress that a game

675
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: of trivia costs you, especially especially if you start badly. Tony,

676
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: how much micro stress are you experiencing right now?

677
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 9: He talked about tarpin this morning, and I was like,

678
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 9: there's no way Kenyan's going to be on the nose.

679
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: For sure, you would jump on the first thing.

680
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 9: That popped in my head. I was like, this is

681
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 9: tarp and I'm like, there's no way he's going to

682
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 9: do that. So I outthought myself on that one.

683
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: Good. Yeah, I was. I was trying to kind of

684
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: throw a bone to folks, like I've been talking right, No,

685
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: I know? Yeah, all right, Well, hey, there's time question

686
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: number six. Here's what you gotta get Tony. The topic

687
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: is hunting. What was the name of the deer call

688
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: introduced in the early two thousands that attempted to simulate

689
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: the sound of deer feeding on hard masts to calm

690
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: other nearby wildlife. What was the name? Look, he did

691
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: know it? Yeah, what was the name of the deer

692
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: call from the early two thousands that simulates the sound

693
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: of feeding deer supposed to calm wildlife around you. Did

694
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: you own one of these? I never owned one of these,

695
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: but we like to joke about it a lot, right.

696
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the banjo minow of white tail, Yes.

697
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 5: Which I did fish on the old banjo.

698
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah did too.

699
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, we used to occasionally. The way we hunted on

700
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: public land when I was growing up, you would the

701
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: limiting factor was wide oakacres, and so you'd be hunting

702
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: a tree that was dropping wide oakakers and there might

703
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: not be a tree anywhere near. It'd be like because

704
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: there was a lot of cutover pine plantations with these

705
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 3: riparian zones that had oaks, and so you could carry

706
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: carry some acrons in your pocket and drop them out

707
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: of the tree.

708
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: Interesting, I sunk.

709
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: On the ground. You hear him falling.

710
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: You know.

711
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 5: I just heard another a guy some of these on

712
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 5: the Southern Outdoors and podcast and he was talking about

713
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 5: doing that, going up the tree with a couple of

714
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 5: pockets fulling every now and then drop the Oh yeah, and.

715
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: They're like so A funny story from Bill Winki, one

716
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: of his little tips for when you are like in

717
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: a bedding area, hunting deep in there and it's like

718
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: late morning and for some reason you want to get out.

719
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: You don't want to stay in there all morning, which

720
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: in this case, like if I was gonna hunt a

721
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: betting are, I'd be there all day. But he said,

722
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 1: if you want to get out, he would. He would

723
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: collect acorns on the ground before it went up, and

724
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: he'd carry a slingshot with him. And so when it

725
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: was like eleven o'clock and he wanted to get out there,

726
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: if he saw deer bedded somewhere nearby, he would shoot

727
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: them with acorns with a slingshot until they'd run off,

728
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: and then he'd walk out. Wow.

729
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 9: So the category that this all is in. I hunted

730
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 9: down in Texas one time and one of the guides

731
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 9: was telling me about an electronic call that you could

732
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 9: buy that you could hit a button and it sounded

733
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 9: like a feeder going off.

734
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: Oh he said.

735
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 9: He said, they drop guys off and pick him up.

736
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 9: At the end of a three four hours sitting, their

737
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 9: batteries would be dead because those dudents are just letting

738
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Speaker 9: their It's good.

739
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: Oh man, Okay, do we have is everybody good, yep,

740
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: all right, let's see the answers please, Heather said, Randal

741
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: hands bear acorn muncher. Acorn muncher pro.

742
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: That's the kind of answer that gets you the w Tony.

743
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: Acorn crunch or Spencer acorn crunch er. Maggie acorn muncher,

744
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: Janna said, the muncher said, the browse show or the

745
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: let's eat bleep great ideas. The correct answer is acorn

746
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: cruncher or cruncher. It's either cruncher or it's popularly known

747
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: as the acorn cruncher, but technically it was just called

748
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: the cruncher, So either one is okay by me.

749
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 10: These was so close for pulling an answer out of

750
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 10: my ass.

751
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm giving you. Give me brownie points for that.

752
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: According to a two thousand and nine press release on

753
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: the Outdoor Wire, the cruncher is a compoc compact handheld

754
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: call that simulates the sound of deer feeding on acorns.

755
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: This natural sound relaxes deer in the immediate vicinity of

756
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: your stand. It can also call in other deer that

757
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: think there's food available. It calms spook deer, stimulates deer

758
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: to feed, and stops deer in a relaxed manner. Just

759
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: like imitating a deer's grunt or recreating the rattling of antlers,

760
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: the sound of a white tail feeding on acorns can

761
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: cause a positive reaction, so they say. But you know,

762
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: as we were talking earlier, it's widely panned. It's a joke.

763
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people kind of look at it as

764
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: as being representative of like all the choshki gizmos that

765
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: are marketed to hunters.

766
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: No one does like a white tail hunter. Yes, I

767
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 4: also love the ground grunter that would be in that category, which,

768
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 4: if you're not familiar, you're in a tree stand twenty

769
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 4: feet in the air. The ground grunter is a long

770
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: plastic tube that runs to the base of the ground

771
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: that you blow into a grunt call in your tree stand,

772
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: and that sound travels all the way down and it

773
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 4: comes out at what would be eye level for a deer,

774
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: because all the deer are onto you if they hear

775
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: a grunt coming from twenty feet in the air. So

776
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 4: that's why you want your ground grunter to produce that

777
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: more realistic note.

778
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: After that failed, I called at the urination station.

779
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: Have you ever have you seen the butt clicker? It's

780
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: so it's the basically supposedly, there's a call that a

781
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: buck will make where it makes an individual note of

782
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 3: a grunt and clicks like there's.

783
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 9: Like, imagine it's a real deal.

784
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

785
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: There's a famous story in the nukeom Lore of the

786
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 3: clicking bug that my dad had come in that he

787
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: missed and he said it was clicking. It says, make

788
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: it individual grunts. But there's a call that's on a

789
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: wheel that has a little you like roll it like

790
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: the wheel of fortune.

791
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: Like that's cool. I love hunting in a place where

792
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: you can see mature bucks enough to actually hear these

793
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: types of you know, vocalizations like you just don't ever

794
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: hear that in Michigan. But I've been in island and

795
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: heard so many cool things. Kanas, very fun. Yeah, all right.

796
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: Question number seven the topic is public lands. What is

797
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: the largest national wildlife refuge in the United States? Very simple?

798
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: What is the largest national wildlife refuge in the United

799
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: States of America. It's a piece of public land. There's

800
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of critters out there. The first national wildlife

801
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: refuge technically is created by Theodore Roosevelt. Back in the

802
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: early nineteen hundreds, there was an island full of a bunch

803
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: of birds down in Florida, and the feather hunters, the

804
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: folks that were killing birds to make pretty hats for

805
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: ladies in the day, were killing all the birds. And

806
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: mister Teddy Roosevelt was not a fan of that. So

807
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: he got a hold of his folks in the Department

808
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: of the Interior and say, hey, is there anything keeping

809
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: me away from declaring this is some kind of like

810
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: refuge for wildlife? And his staff went looked around and

811
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: they said, well, I don't think there is anything keeping

812
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: you from doing it. Teddy replied, well, then I so

813
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: declare it. And that's how he created I believe that

814
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: was Pelican Island. I think was the first one, and

815
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: many many more have come since I declare. Yeah, I

816
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: so declare it. Mister Teddy Roosevelt.

817
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 5: That's a lot of power. But our current president know

818
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 5: about that kind of power that you can yield when

819
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 5: you're in the position he might be he might be

820
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 5: interested in dropping a few.

821
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:16,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no comment. They have the Antiquities Act today

822
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: that Teddy Roosevelt uses well to create our national monuments.

823
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that folks in power these days like

824
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: our national monuments as much as mister Roosevelt did.

825
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

826
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: Anyone still thinking?

827
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 5: How are you feeling about this one? Maggie, Oh not

828
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 5: too confident. I like it.

829
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: Do we have answers in? Everybody have an answer? All right?

830
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: Can we see those answers please? Heather?

831
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 5: Oh, you got what?

832
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: I what I the Tonguest National Forest, Bear says the

833
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: Arctic Wildlife Refuge. Tony said the Tonguest, which is the

834
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: National Forest. Spencer says the Coutine. Maggie says, the Arctic

835
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: place is the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Giannis says the

836
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Brand says the Oka Pinocchi. And

837
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: the correct answer is Clay Newcomb got it right, the

838
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. So Janni, Yanni got it? And

839
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: war what.

840
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 5: About?

841
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: Yes that you were excited about it. This is a

842
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: This is a picture. This is an image that I

843
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: saw on Instagram of Mark.

844
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Arctic Mark.

845
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 3: I actually didn't really realize it wasn't nice.

846
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, thinking about your recent.

847
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 12: I thought you were spending a lot of time right

848
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 12: in your answer the Arctic.

849
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is approximately nineteen point six

850
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: million acres. It's our second largest piece of public land.

851
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: The largest is the U. N p r A, which

852
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: is the Western Arctic just over on the western side

853
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: of Alaska. Uh, this is the very far northeast of Alaska.

854
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: And as Clay said, me and Kale just had a

855
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: trip up there a couple of weeks ago.

856
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 10: That's how I knew it was going to be the art.

857
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was a phenomenal experience. We talked about

858
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: it at length in an episode of Media to Radio

859
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: Live a couple of weeks ago, and an episode of

860
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: I Guess it was on Kale's pod. We did it,

861
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: We did an episode of Kale's podcast. But an incredibly

862
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: wild place. This encompasses a portion of the Brooks Range,

863
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: which is the northernmost extension of the Rocky Mountains. On

864
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 1: the southern side of the Brooks Range, you've got boreal

865
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: forest and incredible, you know, kind of inland mountain landscapes.

866
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: On the north slope of the Brooks Range, you had

867
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: the coastal plain, which is like an Arctic grassland. It's

868
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: sort of the equivalent of the African savannah, but our

869
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: North American version, teeming with hundreds of thousands of caribou, muscocks.

870
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: You know at certain times of the year there are

871
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: polar bears or grizzly bears, wolves, all sorts of craters. Uh,

872
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: life changing experience for me and Cal to get to

873
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: see that place very very worth learning about or maybe

874
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: someday seeing. There's amazing caribou hunting, great river floats, terrific climbing, hiking, backpacking.

875
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: If you can ever find a way to get there,

876
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: highly recommend it. All right, Teddy'd be proud, Yes, yes

877
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: he would. He's a big fan. All right. Question number eight,

878
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: The topic is fishing. What is the name of the

879
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: popular fly casting technique to increase the distance of your

880
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: cast by utilizing two distinct polls of your fly Lineberry,

881
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: you got this bearing, You're an inspiring fly angler. Yanni

882
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: was a fly gud. He's got it, Tony's got it.

883
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: Spencer is a spencer. Spencer's a great guy because he

884
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: got into fly fishing when he moved to Montana and

885
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: then very conveniently kind it got out of it enough

886
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: because he got into it so much that he bought

887
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: a set of rod tubes. So these are your fly

888
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: rod holders that go on top of your truck he

889
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: got those few years ago, and then he, I guess,

890
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: got to the point where he wasn't using them enough

891
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: and was also getting a rooftop tent. So he mentions

892
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: to make oh ya, I'm trying to get rid of

893
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: my rod tubes. Right at that time, I was thinking

894
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: to myself, I need a good set of rod tubes

895
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: at the top of my truck. So I got a

896
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: sweet deal on some fly rod holders on top of

897
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: my truck for mister Spencer Newhart.

898
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 4: It was the rooftops had to the rod holders, one

899
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: had to go, and I picked the rooftop.

900
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 5: I taught this technique to Spenser questions.

901
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: Did he listen? I'm gonna read one more time. What's

902
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: the name of the popular fly casting technique to increase

903
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: the distance of your cast by utilizing two distinct pulls.

904
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 10: You know you're talking about those micro stresses.

905
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 8: Yeah? Are you there enough?

906
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 10: This is the point where my brain shuts down in trivia.

907
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: You know this, I know this.

908
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 10: I do this Like every time.

909
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 8: I say it, you're gonna be like, no.

910
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 10: Don't say it yet.

911
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: God, there's like a very huge clue in the in

912
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: the in the you know, I didn't know that I

913
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: knew how to do this until I went fishing with

914
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: Corey and then he commented on it. So and you're

915
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: just kind of doing it naturally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So

916
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: this is something that really helps, Like when you're a

917
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: trout angler, it's not you don't use it as much

918
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: when you're fishing small creeks or anything like that, but

919
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: if you get into big water, or especially if you

920
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: start fishing lakes or saltwater situations, you really need distance.

921
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: You need to be able to get that cast out

922
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: there fast, and this is a way to kind of

923
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: utilize the mechanics of your rod and momentum with your

924
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: line to get that to really shoot out there. There's

925
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 1: a lot of similarities between bow hunting and fly fishing,

926
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: especially saltwater bow on it or saltwater fly fishing. Yeah,

927
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of cross over there, and so with

928
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: this technique, you're like, you're shooting your line at a fish.

929
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: Pretty cool. Do we have everybody in? Do you have

930
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: this right? Clay?

931
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: I hate this?

932
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 10: I hate this game. Why do I keep playing this game?

933
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 5: Maggie?

934
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: This is in your wheelhouse?

935
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 10: This is I know this answer, but I don't have it.

936
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: Let's see your answers. Heather has nothing. Bear says the

937
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: double hall, Tony says double hall, Spencer says double hall,

938
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: Maggie says, Clay says back cast, Yanni says double hall,

939
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: and Brent says double hall. The room did pretty good.

940
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: The correct answer is double hall. According to John jurasecond

941
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: Hatch Magazine, the double hall is an advanced casting technique

942
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: that increases the speed of the line during the cast.

943
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: To achieve this, the line hand literally pulls or hauls

944
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: on the fly line at select points in the casting stroke,

945
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: once during the back cast and once more during the forecast.

946
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: Halls themselves directly increase the speed of the line. This

947
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: also causes the rod to bend more deeply, and that

948
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: deeper bend stores more energy in the rod, and when

949
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: the road, when the rod unloads this energy, it transfers

950
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: it to the line and gives you all that speed.

951
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: So the double hall. On the back cast, you pull

952
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: your line with this left hand, you're pulling back line,

953
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: and then as you forwardcast, it's like back and another

954
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: haul and it shoots that line out just like you're

955
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: shooting a bow with an arrow. It really does help.

956
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: It's simple, it's kind of a weird thing to try

957
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: to figure out at first when somebody explains it to you,

958
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: but it's like riding a bike when you kind of

959
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: just get the rhythm in your head. It just becomes

960
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: very natural and then you always do it. But it

961
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: really helps. So if you are getting into fly fishing,

962
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: check out The Double Hall. Orbis has a lot of

963
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: really good casting videos. I'd recommend Orvis's YouTube channel for

964
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: learning some basic fly fishing stuff. The Double Hall definitely

965
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: worth knowing. Any questions otherwise, I've got a few more

966
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: for you. You've answered everything, Phil, can we get another scoreboard update?

967
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 8: Yes, Brent, did you get the Double Hall?

968
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: Yep?

969
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 8: Okay, I thought so.

970
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: Here Heather, we gotta go to ten now.

971
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 11: In last place is Heather do Veil with one point.

972
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 11: Baron Newcomb got himself a couple of points. He's got

973
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 11: two now after that is Brent Reeves with three. Then Spencer,

974
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 11: Maggie and Clay are all tied up with five points,

975
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 11: and Giannis Butellis is now has has now pulled ahead.

976
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 11: He has six points and is in first place.

977
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 12: If I didn't have such a brain on that last, yeah,

978
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 12: go Maggie.

979
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: All right, these last. I think that we've got one

980
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: that a lot of folks would get. One is gonna

981
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: be a little bit tougher. Question number nine, the topic

982
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 1: is natural history. What state in the lower forty eight

983
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: has the most glaciers? What state in the lower forty

984
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: eight has the most glaciers? It is so much fun

985
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: to sit in this seat and not have the micro

986
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: stress that Tony talks about. I could really get used

987
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: to the spencer. I'm happy to do this anytime. Okay,

988
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: start coming to town more. Yeah, count me in.

989
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 5: I feel like Clan Brent or feeling like they need

990
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 5: to host one of these episodes.

991
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I cannot wait. You're welcome to you. Anyone who

992
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: wants to host. Mark's got to be here though. Yeah,

993
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: Revenge Giving? Which catfish I've in trouble. How many of

994
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: you have ever touched a glacier? Play? Yeah, in the

995
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: lower forty eight, Clay, No, it's harder to come by,

996
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: hard to get close to him, at least in the

997
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: lower forty Lay sure.

998
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 3: I think me and you probably had. What I saw

999
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 3: of your experience with the glacier was I think like mine,

1000
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: it was like seeing a living animal. Yeah, it struck

1001
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 3: me like that. I mean, when you see geographic features,

1002
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: there's a certain response that you have that's that's really

1003
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: majestic and awesome, you know. Like, but when I saw

1004
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: a glacier, and I don't want to overexaggerate, but it

1005
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 3: was just the truth. It was it almost like took.

1006
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: My breath away. Yeah, true, large.

1007
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: It sounds dramatic like whatever, but in the context of

1008
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 3: being in that kind of wilderness, in that place, being

1009
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: where I'm from, I mean, it was just kind of

1010
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: like it was wow. And then and we were a

1011
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: mile from it, and it it's huge, and we just

1012
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: keep going towards it, going towards it, going towards it.

1013
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: And what looks like a fifty foot tall glacier is

1014
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: like a two I don't know how tall. I still

1015
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 3: can't tell you how tall it was. And we were

1016
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: right underneath it. I don't know if it was five

1017
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 3: hundred feet or three hundred feet. Just like the scale

1018
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: was just like super hard to understand.

1019
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty spectacular.

1020
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 4: Dog on a leash who sponsor black Bear?

1021
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Does everybody have a have an answer? Yeah?

1022
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: All right, well let's just get right to it. Heather says,

1023
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: nothing bear says Montana, Tony says Montana, Spencer Montana, Maggie Montana,

1024
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: Clay Montana, Yanni, Colorado, Brent, Idaho.

1025
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 8: Wow, guys, nobody got the right.

1026
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: The correct answer is Washington Alaska. Alaska has the most

1027
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: glaciers in North America. Alaska's got around one hundred thousand glaciers,

1028
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: but in the lower forty eight, Washington State is the winner.

1029
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: They've got around three thousand of them. And Washington's also

1030
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: home to the most glaciated single peak, which is Mount Rainier.

1031
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: Mount Rainier has twenty five or twenty six glaciers on

1032
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: that one single peak. Terrific place. Washington State's got a

1033
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: lot of really cool places to go and see these glaciers.

1034
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: According to the Washington Department of Natural Resources, glaciers form

1035
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: in areas where snow accumulation persists through time, allowing the

1036
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: snow to pile up and compact into ice. It typically

1037
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: takes hundreds of years for a glacier to fully form.

1038
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: Glaciers behave like rivers of ice, moving, growing and shrinking

1039
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: over time. They are bounded by the valleys that they

1040
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: reside in, but they flow under the force of gravity,

1041
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: and they also advance or retreat depending upon the climate conditions.

1042
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: They're very cool to see in person. Like you said,

1043
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: Clay got to get up in close and personal with

1044
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: the Mendenhall Glacier in southeast Alaska, and yeah, crazy crazy

1045
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: to see that in real life. It felt like I

1046
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: was stepping into like some natural history documentary and it

1047
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: was really cool. You can see how these glaciers are

1048
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: changing right now. There was a trail that I hiked,

1049
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: and all along this trail there were year markers that

1050
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: showed where the glacier used to be, and you could

1051
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: walk decade by decade and see how the glacier had changed.

1052
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: And just from nineteen ninety six to now, so I

1053
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: mean just a little bit less than twenty years, that

1054
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: glacier had receded somewhere around a mile in a move.

1055
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: So it used to be I was standing at the

1056
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six mile marker and the glacier would have

1057
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: be right over my head, and then I'm staring at

1058
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: a mile away, still huge, but different. So it was

1059
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: very eye opening to see see that in real life. Yeah, yeah,

1060
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: quite the spectacle.

1061
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 4: Grasshopper Glacier southeast of US. I'm going to hike to you.

1062
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 4: Someday there's grasshoppers frozen into the glacier and they're like,

1063
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 4: you can't preserve them. People go up and try to

1064
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 4: pick them out, but they basically just melt as soon

1065
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 4: as they leave the glacier.

1066
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: Wow, cool stuff, cool stuff, all right. That was question

1067
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: number nine. So I believe we should have another scoreboard

1068
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: update and a correct answer review.

1069
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 11: Well, just for the scoreboard update really quick before the

1070
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 11: review mark it was a zero per centers. We're right

1071
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 11: back where we were, but giannis Is is still ahead by

1072
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 11: one point. So it just comes down to this last question.

1073
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: But it is I mean, there's a strong competition still

1074
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: because Spencer, Maggie and Clay all still Yeah, you get it.

1075
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: You got this last ques EO.

1076
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: Wilson behind Eldo Leopold was your first guest, I think, Brent,

1077
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: that was a decent guest. That was a good guest

1078
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: until I threw in the initials. Yeah. Sorry, all right,

1079
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: So the correct answer review is that something you do, Faillership,

1080
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: I'd review it me, all right. The correct answer to

1081
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: question number one was b Jim or nagomine from monominee.

1082
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: Question number two, the answer was e O. Wilson. Three

1083
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: was Tarpin, four was Pasties, five was the US Forest Service.

1084
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: Six was the Acorn cruncher also would accept Cruncher. Seven

1085
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: was the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Eight was the Double Hall.

1086
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: Nine was Washington State. And that leaves us with question

1087
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: number ten. For all the marbles, Yanni, are you ready

1088
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: for this one? All right? You? You could, you could

1089
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: get this one. Maybe you could win it. Question number ten,

1090
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: The topic is conservation. Name wrong one film vertical? Yeah?

1091
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: Name the author who wrote these famous words. We simply

1092
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: need that. We simply need that wild country available to us,

1093
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: even if we'd never do more than drive to its

1094
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: edge and look in for it can be a means

1095
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: of reassuring ourselves of our sanity as creatures, a part

1096
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: of the geography of hope. Name the famous author who

1097
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: wrote these famous words.

1098
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 4: I'm well, I mean, I bet this quote is in

1099
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 4: his book, right, mhmm.

1100
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: Name the author who wrote these famous words. He also

1101
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: has written other books? Famous author, We simply need that

1102
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: wild country?

1103
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 5: Has he published more than one book?

1104
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: Many?

1105
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: Does he work here?

1106
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm giving to any clues? Yeah you did, Yeah

1107
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: you did.

1108
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 5: You got a good guess.

1109
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: We simply need that wild country available to us, even

1110
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: if we never do more than drive to its edge

1111
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: and look in. Or it can be a means of

1112
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: reassuring ourselves of our sanity as creatures. A part of

1113
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: the geography of Hope. What a hell of a good.

1114
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: Line brushed up on that wild country before I came?

1115
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: What helped you? The geography of hope? Isn't that a

1116
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: great way to refer to this? Isn't that great?

1117
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 9: Should have just scanned Kenyon's diary one.

1118
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: You would have won the damn thing if you did that.

1119
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: Come on, Tony. Unbelievable. I know, I know, unbelievable. I know.

1120
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: Does anyone feel confident? Well?

1121
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 10: I did until he said he's published many books?

1122
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: Well, he's published more than one.

1123
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: What kind of books?

1124
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: Maybe? E books? Maybe not.

1125
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 10: I'm going back to it.

1126
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 7: I thought I had a decent answer until I saw

1127
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 7: your reaction to Heather's question.

1128
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: Does he work at the company?

1129
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go.

1130
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: I can't tell you the answer that.

1131
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 3: I don't think I got it.

1132
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: If it's the person I'm thinking of, I can here.

1133
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: All right, we probably need to wrap it up, though, folks. Ready,

1134
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: can we see some answers. Please, Oh, Heather thought it

1135
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: was Steve Vanella. Bear thought Steve Ronella. Tony thought Elder

1136
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: Leopold Spencer said Mark Kenyon. Maggie says Mark Kenyon. Clay

1137
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: says Elder Leopoldian says all the Leopold. Brent says Steve Ranella.

1138
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: That is a zero per center. The correct answer is

1139
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: Wallace Stegner. Wallace Stagner has written over sixty fiction and

1140
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: non fiction books and is known as the Dean of

1141
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: Western writers.

1142
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 4: But I bet this quote is in your book, meaning

1143
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 4: that Mark Kenyon, an author, wrote these famous.

1144
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: Words in his book. This quote in your book. This

1145
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: quote is the epigraph for my book. Okay and Maggie.

1146
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: On the second page of my book is this quote,

1147
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: and it informs the title of my books.

1148
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 4: Author Mark Kenyon wrote these famous words. He wrote those words.

1149
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: Heart type them into the into the word document. That's true.

1150
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't think I would have We could go to a.

1151
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 11: Three way tiebreaker if we wanted more fun.

1152
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: Have you been listening to this argument?

1153
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 5: You guys didn't get it.

1154
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: I think, Phil, Phil, what do you said? Do we

1155
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: give them that?

1156
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 11: I mean, if if, what's what's the spirit of the game.

1157
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 11: If we're just having fun, I'd say absolutely. But if

1158
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 11: if if you're a se me to be a judge,

1159
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 11: I would say, no way, We're here to have.

1160
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: Fun, all right, because then we could have as I mean,

1161
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: you're right. I did type them into the word document,

1162
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: the epigram the book.

1163
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 4: Well done, Megan, all right, so we go.

1164
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: Wallace Stagner, as I mentioned, he was the dean of

1165
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: Western Writers. Wallace Yes, and you guys should know Wallacener.

1166
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: He taught at the University of Utah, Wisconsin, Harvard, and Stanford.

1167
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: He's recognized as not only one of the greatest writers

1168
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: coming out of the West, one of our greatest conservationists.

1169
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: That line that I read originally was a part of

1170
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: the Wilderness Letter. The Wilderness Letter was this letter that

1171
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: Stegner sent to a Congressional commission back in the sixties

1172
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: as they were debating the Wilderness Act. Should we set

1173
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: aside wilderness in this nation? There's a big debate discussion

1174
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: for years and years about it. Stagner was this famous

1175
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: professor and author and pulled into a lot of different

1176
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: administrations to advise on these things. He sent this long, lengthy,

1177
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: beautiful letter which ended up getting published publicly because it

1178
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: was so influential. And then eventually that Wilderness Letter which

1179
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: this came from, was actually used as the introduction to

1180
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: the Wilderness Act. So all of our designated wilderness areas

1181
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: that we have left in this nation there there because

1182
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: of this Act of Congress, the Wilderness Act. And if

1183
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: you go and read the text, it has that as

1184
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: well as a really beautiful pros here talking about the

1185
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: special places. I'm not going to read it all to you,

1186
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: but should go check it out someday. Very good. I

1187
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: just I thought you just did this smart. Yeah, it

1188
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: was good. All right.

1189
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 5: So we've got three way tie that's fun. Hey, we

1190
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 5: can just do nine more questions if you want. I'm

1191
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 5: having a good time.

1192
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 4: We got meat eat to radio live in a half hour.

1193
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying myself. But okay, so tiebreaker question, tiebreaker.

1194
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 5: Like a knife just jabbed me in the temple?

1195
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: Good And this one's for Tony, So Tony, sorry, you're

1196
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: not in it.

1197
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 10: Well, everybody can play.

1198
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 4: Everyone will play a lot because if somebody gets it

1199
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 4: right on the nose, then there will be an extra

1200
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,959
Speaker 4: one hundred dollars donation added to the end of the game.

1201
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: So I sent you the text for the Tiberk question. Yes,

1202
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: I have it. Okay, let's see it, tiebreaker, how many

1203
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: acres of lawn grass are in the United States of America?

1204
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: How many acres of lawn are in our country? Why

1205
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: is that a question for me? Because you like to

1206
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: talk about pollinators, and I'm going to talk to you

1207
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: about pollinators.

1208
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 9: I think I speak for everyone in this room when

1209
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 9: I say I cannot wait for Spencer to be back

1210
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 9: in that scene.

1211
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 11: And I've been saying this a lot lately. This might

1212
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 11: be our longest episode of Trivia so far, by the way,

1213
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 11: I think we're definitely over an hour.

1214
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: That's really so, I'm talking too much. Well, no one

1215
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: gave me a time. I have no idea how many acres?

1216
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: How many acres of lawn do we have in the

1217
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: US of A? Who I was later whoever's closest within

1218
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: the three way tie takes the crown? You gotta Yanni.

1219
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: You know what, Yanni in this room. Yanni probably listens

1220
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: to more episodes of my podcast than anybody else. That's right,

1221
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: more than Tony Peterson, more than Tony for sure, more

1222
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: than ton and and we had a podcast talked about

1223
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: this pretty recently, so I.

1224
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 5: Didn't listen to that one. I was one of the

1225
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 5: ones to tell me how to kill big bucks.

1226
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: Fair enough, now how to grow them? All right, how

1227
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: are we doing? It would be good.

1228
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 10: I can't wrap my head around this, but sure, yeah,

1229
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 10: all right.

1230
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: Let's see what you got, Heather. Nothing bears its fifteen

1231
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: tony forty point million, forty point one million. I wish

1232
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: you were in the game. Buddy Spencer's one and one million,

1233
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: Maggie one point five million, Clay four hundred million, Yannie

1234
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty seven million, and Brent one hundred million.

1235
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: The correct answer is approximately forty million acres. So close, dude.

1236
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 9: I've been in the tiebreaker almost every time I've played

1237
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 9: trivia and always got my ass kicked.

1238
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: And then the number to you recently. Yeah, you're so close.

1239
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: That is crazy.

1240
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 9: Mark says a lot of stuff.

1241
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've got about forty million acres of lawn

1242
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: in this nation.

1243
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 4: And did she at one point five?

1244
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I guess so Maggie won the game.

1245
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 12: Yes, flooky thing like that's not even an.

1246
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: I'll take a w We're here to have a good time.

1247
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: Well done, Maggie. The reason this is on my mind

1248
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: is because, like I said of Yanni, we had this

1249
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: guy in the podcast named Doug Talomy who is popularized

1250
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: an idea called the Homegrown National Park idea, which was

1251
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 1: this idea that, hey, there's forty million acres of lawn

1252
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: out there that's lowsy for wildlife, as lousy for birds

1253
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: and bugs and pollinators in the whole nine yards. So

1254
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: what if we could try to teach people to turn

1255
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 1: their lawns into native vegetation.

1256
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 12: You know, Mark Kenyon, I have been busting my butt

1257
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,799
Speaker 12: this year trying to grow some native grasses and plants

1258
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 12: on my dirt patch of a new lawn.

1259
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 10: It is not easy, but we're getting some roots and.

1260
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: Good for you, and that's fitting that you want today.

1261
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 5: It's a three year process. Sleep, leap, no sleep, creep

1262
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 5: and leap. Ye first year, give them time, The second

1263
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 5: year it creeps. The third year at leaps.

1264
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: That's right there, you.

1265
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 12: Go, Well, I'll be dealing with dirty, muddy dog paws

1266
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 12: in my house for three years.

1267
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 5: It'll be worth it.

1268
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: Well well done, Maggie. Who are you going to be

1269
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: donating your winnings to today?

1270
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,480
Speaker 12: I gotta go with the Wyoming Wildlife Federation.

1271
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: Very good, great organization, very cool. I appreciate you guys

1272
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: playing along with me. Thanks Mark, Thanks well done everyone,

1273
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 1: Good job, Barn, Maggie, good times, Well done every one.

1274
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: Join us next week for more meaty to Trivia, the

1275
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: only game show where conservation always wins.

1276
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1277
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:49,919
Speaker 2: Spencer from South Dakota.

1278
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 12: He's the host, using those smooth, mellow tones.

1279
01:10:53,120 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 3: He lays them questions down, and he likes taking those

1280
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 3: two and three year old bucks.

1281
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,520
Speaker 1: And he's an avid amateur

1282
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 2: Rockhow