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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in

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Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Good Morning. Who's up as Aaron Donald?

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Speaker 1: He lucked back in, let's go get us another ring. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not and so far stay deal. Getting the chills

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Speaker 1: thinking about it. Let's go to work. Let's go to work.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do each and every day. And you're

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Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football. No matter the season, no matter

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Speaker 1: the month. It's summer. There are other things going on,

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Speaker 1: there are other sports going on. We talk football with

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Speaker 1: Will Silva, Maurice Jones, Drew and Peter Schreger. Y'all caught

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Speaker 1: up on stranger things. Peter, No, I haven't caught up

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Speaker 1: on stranger I still got to get through low Key

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Speaker 1: and Boba Fette. But I got Aaron Donald news. I

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Speaker 1: know that I'm caught up on batters. Kyle. He started

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Speaker 1: the show with Bobba. Let's start the show. What the

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Speaker 1: lead block? Peter proud to do it too. Let's go

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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football, lead block. So here's the deal, big, big, big,

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Speaker 1: big news from the big man in LA maybe the

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Speaker 1: greatest defensive player of all time. At the later segment

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Speaker 1: restructured his deal. The Rams did to make him the

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Speaker 1: highest paid non quarterback in NFL history, the one with

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Speaker 1: the pen right down there on the field, and guests

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Speaker 1: who has all the inside details. It's the rap sheet,

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Speaker 1: take it away. In the biggest question for the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, the Super Bowl winning Los Angeles Rams this

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Speaker 1: offseason was was star defensive tackle Aaron Donald going to

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Speaker 1: be back or was it going to retire? That question

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Speaker 1: was answered in a very, very big way on Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Ursus say that Aaron Donald the Rams agreed to terms

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Speaker 1: on a forty million dollar raise. Yes, forty million dollars

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Speaker 1: raised for Aaron Donald. He now gets ninety five million

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Speaker 1: over three years. This is not a contract extensions, not

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Speaker 1: a straight up raised. And this deal, this historic deal

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Speaker 1: that makes the thirty one year old the highest paid

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Speaker 1: non QB in NFL history, is just a fascinating one. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: what it is is a two year, sixty five million,

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Speaker 1: for a third year, and that would be for thirty

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Speaker 1: million dollars, they can discuss that if and when the

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Speaker 1: time comes, But for now, at thirty one, after pondering retirement.

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Speaker 1: The most important thing to know is not just that

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, another another very large check is that the

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Speaker 1: Rams get their big time star back, Ian said at

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Speaker 1: forty million dollars rais. Look at this list highest paid

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Speaker 1: who then went shirtless at the parade. Let's break this

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Speaker 1: thing down right now, Peter. I know you've been binging

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Speaker 1: of the world. What do you make of this deal, Peter,

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Speaker 1: And what do you think it makes means for the Rams? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this deal was in motion last week and it was

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Speaker 1: on the Iam Athlete podcast that Aaron Donald came out

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Speaker 1: by Monday this deal was done. I could tell you

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Speaker 1: that Aaron Donald right here, it wasn't just a leverage point,

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Speaker 1: the retirement talk. It wasn't just a way to make

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Speaker 1: And when I say they, it's basically Sean McVeigh and said, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: no brainer for the Rams. They do a great job

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Speaker 1: Ryan on the Colts? Are we gonna see somebody wearing

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Speaker 1: a number two Colts Jersey and be like, oh my god,

422
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan was on the Colts. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: But I also think that Matt Ryan has a really

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Speaker 1: tough gig this year in which he just needs to

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Speaker 1: step in on a new team that he's never done.

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Speaker 1: He's never been on a new team. He's falcon for

427
00:20:55,068 --> 00:20:56,988
Speaker 1: life he thought he was going to be. And the

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Speaker 1: Colts need to at least win one playoff game this year,

429
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Speaker 1: with the optics of last year being oh my, got

430
00:21:02,508 --> 00:21:04,828
Speaker 1: our quarterback melted down? Just get a professional here, get

431
00:21:04,828 --> 00:21:07,228
Speaker 1: an adult, and he'll clean up everything. It's not that easy.

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Speaker 1: It's not that easy at all. We don't know how

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Speaker 1: this is gonna go. And I also think in terms

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Speaker 1: of who needs to come up huge, not Ryan at

435
00:21:14,828 --> 00:21:16,948
Speaker 1: some point needs to be made whole. And what I

436
00:21:16,988 --> 00:21:19,188
Speaker 1: mean by that is if he retires in two years

437
00:21:19,188 --> 00:21:21,668
Speaker 1: and doesn't accomplish much from here on out, the conversation

438
00:21:21,788 --> 00:21:23,748
Speaker 1: for the next fifty years of his life is, Hey,

439
00:21:23,868 --> 00:21:25,388
Speaker 1: you wanted to VP. You want it to be you

440
00:21:25,388 --> 00:21:27,348
Speaker 1: wanted to VP. You wanted to be good person, good

441
00:21:27,348 --> 00:21:30,108
Speaker 1: football man, good leader. And then everyone still makes their

442
00:21:30,148 --> 00:21:32,348
Speaker 1: idiot of twenty eight to three jokes which I have

443
00:21:32,548 --> 00:21:34,628
Speaker 1: condemned on this show, which I think are stupid, in

444
00:21:34,628 --> 00:21:36,948
Speaker 1: which I do not think he had anything to do with,

445
00:21:37,468 --> 00:21:39,308
Speaker 1: and yet he's the face of that thing, and I

446
00:21:39,348 --> 00:21:40,988
Speaker 1: just don't think that that's right. I would love to

447
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Speaker 1: see a great second chapter from Matt Ryan where he

448
00:21:43,628 --> 00:21:46,468
Speaker 1: proves how good he is, and he proves that one

449
00:21:46,588 --> 00:21:49,428
Speaker 1: second half with terrible Kyle Shanahan play calling was not

450
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Speaker 1: his fault. I think he is really good quarterback. Imagine

451
00:21:52,748 --> 00:21:55,748
Speaker 1: if Matt Ryan wins the MVP again this year outlandish.

452
00:21:55,788 --> 00:21:57,548
Speaker 1: I don't know, We'll see how it takes off, but

453
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Speaker 1: that would change everything, because everything the guy still hears

454
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Speaker 1: is the stupid jokes about the second half of the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl years ago and which it wasn't him. So

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Speaker 1: come on in Live Down. Some of those demons get

457
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Speaker 1: the Colts at least to the divisional round, and everything's fine.

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Speaker 1: Short of that, though kind of feels like it came

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Speaker 1: up a little short. You know, maybe Philip Rivers did

460
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Speaker 1: the same thing when he went to Indianapos the end

461
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Speaker 1: of his career. So much's going on there, Peter, am

462
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Speaker 1: I being too hard. I'm Matt Ryan here, I'm rooting

463
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Speaker 1: for him. No, and you know all the stuff you

464
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Speaker 1: were hearing so far from Colts campus, how accurate he

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Speaker 1: is and how dialed in he is. I think that

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Speaker 1: we could either be in one of these deals where

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan goes like thirteen and four and it's the

468
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan of old, or the Colts don't deliver, because

469
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Speaker 1: yet again it's a rotating door at quarterback. I would

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Speaker 1: go with the former. The problem is, as we go

471
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Speaker 1: through all these quarterbacks, there's sixteen teams in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: About fourteen of them are really good. Not all of

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Speaker 1: them are going to be great. Right now, he's beaming

474
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Speaker 1: in from what looks to be a boardroom or a

475
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Speaker 1: hotel room. He's always in parts unknown. Former Patriots front

476
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Speaker 1: office member in Kansas City, Chiefs GM and assistant GM

477
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Speaker 1: down there in Atlanta, mister Scott, Peole, Scott, what's going

478
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Speaker 1: on this morning? Good morning, Peter, Good morning to the

479
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Speaker 1: entire crew. A lot going on here, Not a lot

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Speaker 1: going on. You could tell, because we did a combative

481
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Speaker 1: list from mj D about the top five most underrated

482
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Speaker 1: catches of all time. He had a Hail Mary from

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars that he was on the squad in twenty

484
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Speaker 1: ten with Gus Johnson on the call with his number one.

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Speaker 1: But you've been around the game plenty of years and

486
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Speaker 1: have seen plenty of underrated catches which one doesn't get

487
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Speaker 1: enough love in the NFL, Lure, Peter. I listened to

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Speaker 1: all of those, and I watched all those at MJD,

489
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Speaker 1: and they're all great ones. But of that group, I

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Speaker 1: went with that group, it had to be Randy Moss's

491
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Speaker 1: one handed grab. That catch. We talk about it being underrated,

492
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Speaker 1: and it was because it was just him doing Randy

493
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Speaker 1: Moss stuff. I mean, if you watch us, there's one

494
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Speaker 1: shot of this from the end zone. He's five steps

495
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Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage and he starts raising his

496
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Speaker 1: hand and he's like, I got this guy. But the

497
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Speaker 1: guy that he was doing two was Darrell Reevs. I mean,

498
00:23:56,428 --> 00:23:59,068
Speaker 1: for grind out lout, he'd beat Darrell Reevs like that.

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Speaker 1: And if you watch all those other catches, every single

500
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Speaker 1: one of them showed so much effort in this spectacular movement.

501
00:24:05,748 --> 00:24:10,268
Speaker 1: But then Randy did it completely effortlessly. He never broke stride,

502
00:24:10,268 --> 00:24:12,548
Speaker 1: He just kind of lays his hand out there and

503
00:24:12,588 --> 00:24:14,588
Speaker 1: the ball just fell into it. He didn't snatch. You

504
00:24:14,668 --> 00:24:17,508
Speaker 1: didn't have to do anything special. It looks like something

505
00:24:17,588 --> 00:24:19,388
Speaker 1: he does all the time. And having spent a couple

506
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Speaker 1: of years with Randy, that was something that he did

507
00:24:22,268 --> 00:24:25,348
Speaker 1: all the time in practice. I believe it. And it's

508
00:24:25,388 --> 00:24:27,908
Speaker 1: so awesome to hear you talk about Scott, who's been

509
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Speaker 1: up close and personal to see it. I have to

510
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Speaker 1: bring this up some critics and buy critics. I mean,

511
00:24:33,868 --> 00:24:37,828
Speaker 1: the internet booker eaters are worried about Tua Tonsa Voloah's

512
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Speaker 1: arm strength with Tyreek Hill, and we talked about this

513
00:24:41,908 --> 00:24:44,948
Speaker 1: so much. The Tuah's arm strength makes me long for

514
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Speaker 1: the Kenny Pickett's hand size conversation. That's just my personal

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Speaker 1: take on it. Scott Tua had a really sharp response

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Speaker 1: in which he said he's not worried about keyboard Warriors. Please,

517
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Speaker 1: what is your take on the match between Twa and Tyreek,

518
00:24:58,868 --> 00:25:02,308
Speaker 1: the arm strength and the whole story around this, Kyle,

519
00:25:02,548 --> 00:25:04,508
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. I'm right there with to

520
00:25:05,148 --> 00:25:07,468
Speaker 1: the past that was allegedly under throw that ran all

521
00:25:07,468 --> 00:25:09,708
Speaker 1: over the internet too. Who was sitting there wearing a

522
00:25:09,748 --> 00:25:12,228
Speaker 1: bucket hat. It was three and a half weeks ago.

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00:25:12,468 --> 00:25:15,068
Speaker 1: It was when Tyrek had just arrived. And anyone who

524
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Speaker 1: knows anything about football is when you have a speed receiver,

525
00:25:18,068 --> 00:25:20,988
Speaker 1: a top speed receiver, there needs to be some time

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Speaker 1: for the quarterback to get in rhythm and understand what

527
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Speaker 1: that speed looks like. Everyone knows fast players, but until

528
00:25:26,988 --> 00:25:28,988
Speaker 1: you see it in person, you don't know. So as

529
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Speaker 1: we watch this, I was thinking about the people that

530
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Speaker 1: were evaluating him. I love that phrase. It used to

531
00:25:34,708 --> 00:25:38,268
Speaker 1: characterize some Kyle not the keyboard warriors, but the booger

532
00:25:38,308 --> 00:25:42,028
Speaker 1: thing you know in that throw. If you cherry pick

533
00:25:42,388 --> 00:25:45,908
Speaker 1: any play from any player and say this defines what

534
00:25:45,948 --> 00:25:47,908
Speaker 1: the player is, that is not the way that you

535
00:25:48,028 --> 00:25:50,428
Speaker 1: evaluate players. You can make the player look too good

536
00:25:50,828 --> 00:25:54,108
Speaker 1: or too bad by cherry picking snaps, by cherry picking plays.

537
00:25:54,428 --> 00:25:56,948
Speaker 1: So to me, again, it's the middle of May. We're

538
00:25:56,988 --> 00:25:59,428
Speaker 1: thinking about and talking about things that don't matter. Let's

539
00:25:59,428 --> 00:26:01,908
Speaker 1: wait until the pads come on. I'll be more concerned

540
00:26:02,068 --> 00:26:04,268
Speaker 1: about and not even concerned. I want to see how

541
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Speaker 1: accurate he is. Can he get the ball in the

542
00:26:06,988 --> 00:26:09,228
Speaker 1: right place at the right time. Not so much the

543
00:26:09,348 --> 00:26:13,748
Speaker 1: arm strength Kyle switching gears here. June, of course, is

544
00:26:13,868 --> 00:26:18,108
Speaker 1: Pride month, and the NFL is furthering conversations about the

545
00:26:18,268 --> 00:26:22,588
Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus community. In last year, we saw Karl Nasset

546
00:26:22,668 --> 00:26:26,428
Speaker 1: become the first active NFL player to come out in retirement.

547
00:26:26,468 --> 00:26:30,708
Speaker 1: We've seen several other players come out. You knew a

548
00:26:30,788 --> 00:26:34,468
Speaker 1: player in New England by the name of Ryan O'Callahan

549
00:26:34,508 --> 00:26:38,468
Speaker 1: who certainly was dealing with some things himself that he

550
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Speaker 1: was dealing with the struggle which was real. He talked

551
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Speaker 1: to you about it. Give the audience perspective on what

552
00:26:44,508 --> 00:26:48,428
Speaker 1: was that like and how your professional relationship began with him. Well, so,

553
00:26:48,548 --> 00:26:51,388
Speaker 1: first of all, we drafted Ryan in two thousand and

554
00:26:51,388 --> 00:26:53,908
Speaker 1: six and fifth round, and he spent his first four

555
00:26:53,948 --> 00:26:56,788
Speaker 1: seasons in New England. I was there with him, and

556
00:26:56,908 --> 00:26:59,308
Speaker 1: when he was cut by the New England Patriots, we

557
00:26:59,508 --> 00:27:01,988
Speaker 1: claimed him. By that time, I was a general manager

558
00:27:02,028 --> 00:27:03,668
Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs, where I'm in there and

559
00:27:03,708 --> 00:27:06,628
Speaker 1: immediately came a chief start and we started winning some games.

560
00:27:06,628 --> 00:27:09,508
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, like the beginning of his career in New England,

561
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:12,388
Speaker 1: he started dealing with some injuries. And it was during

562
00:27:12,428 --> 00:27:14,988
Speaker 1: that time Ryan and I had a very close relationship

563
00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:17,668
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons, and it was during that

564
00:27:17,708 --> 00:27:20,588
Speaker 1: time where I noticed that something was off about his personality.

565
00:27:20,628 --> 00:27:23,148
Speaker 1: He wasn't the same guy that I knew when we

566
00:27:23,228 --> 00:27:26,108
Speaker 1: drafted again. Just something was off. And we had a

567
00:27:26,108 --> 00:27:29,308
Speaker 1: professional relationship, but we also had a very personal relationship.

568
00:27:29,348 --> 00:27:33,068
Speaker 1: He came from a family with a background of substance abuse.

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Speaker 1: I did as well, So we cultivated this relationship and

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00:27:36,748 --> 00:27:38,588
Speaker 1: there was a point in time where I really realized

571
00:27:38,628 --> 00:27:41,028
Speaker 1: that something was wrong. I got him together with some

572
00:27:41,068 --> 00:27:43,828
Speaker 1: of our medical people. He also reached out some folks

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Speaker 1: on his own and he ended up going away for

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Speaker 1: a little while and when he came back, that was

575
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Speaker 1: when the conversation really happened. Yes, Scott lunch yours staff

576
00:27:53,108 --> 00:27:54,788
Speaker 1: got Ryan the help he needed, though, and he was

577
00:27:54,828 --> 00:27:57,028
Speaker 1: able to he was kind of able to focus on

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00:27:57,068 --> 00:27:59,068
Speaker 1: another aspect of his life that he was struggling with

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Speaker 1: as well. Could you tell us what happened then? And JD.

580
00:28:01,228 --> 00:28:03,708
Speaker 1: What happened was he came back and you know, after

581
00:28:03,748 --> 00:28:06,468
Speaker 1: he took care of himself and his personal business. You know,

582
00:28:06,508 --> 00:28:08,788
Speaker 1: he sought out helped from a therapist, and then he

583
00:28:08,828 --> 00:28:11,068
Speaker 1: called me and asked me if he could meet. He

584
00:28:11,108 --> 00:28:13,748
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about his career, probably ending. His body

585
00:28:13,828 --> 00:28:16,068
Speaker 1: was beat up and he was really adamant about wanting

586
00:28:16,068 --> 00:28:17,868
Speaker 1: to get together with me and talk to me in person,

587
00:28:17,908 --> 00:28:20,628
Speaker 1: and he sounded extremely urgent, so he ended up calling it.

588
00:28:20,668 --> 00:28:22,908
Speaker 1: Comes in, meets me in my office, and I could

589
00:28:22,948 --> 00:28:26,108
Speaker 1: tell right away he's really upset. Ryan's a bit of

590
00:28:26,108 --> 00:28:28,268
Speaker 1: a sweater, so he walked into the office that he

591
00:28:28,308 --> 00:28:31,028
Speaker 1: was sweating, and he had built up this conversation and

592
00:28:31,428 --> 00:28:33,468
Speaker 1: I seem he comes in, we hug, he sits down

593
00:28:33,508 --> 00:28:35,388
Speaker 1: and he says to me, Scott, to tell you something.

594
00:28:35,828 --> 00:28:37,788
Speaker 1: It's not good. You're not going to be happy. I'm like, Ryan,

595
00:28:37,788 --> 00:28:39,748
Speaker 1: what's the matter. You know what happened? You know you

596
00:28:40,108 --> 00:28:42,308
Speaker 1: haven't had a problem with the alcohol or anything, right,

597
00:28:42,308 --> 00:28:44,708
Speaker 1: And he said no, I'm gay. I said, okay, so

598
00:28:44,868 --> 00:28:46,868
Speaker 1: tell me about what's going on. What's the problem. And

599
00:28:46,908 --> 00:28:49,868
Speaker 1: he looks at me goes, Scott, I'm gay. I said, okay, Ryan,

600
00:28:50,028 --> 00:28:53,268
Speaker 1: so tell me did you do something really bad or

601
00:28:53,308 --> 00:28:55,028
Speaker 1: you know, is there a problem? And he burst out

602
00:28:55,068 --> 00:28:57,988
Speaker 1: into tears. And it was in this moment, this is

603
00:28:57,988 --> 00:29:01,868
Speaker 1: in two eleven, and he was so worried about what

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00:29:01,948 --> 00:29:03,628
Speaker 1: I was going to feel about him, what his teammates

605
00:29:03,668 --> 00:29:06,428
Speaker 1: were going to feel abou and he was so visibly upset.

606
00:29:06,468 --> 00:29:08,748
Speaker 1: He was so afraid of being found out. We ended

607
00:29:08,788 --> 00:29:11,628
Speaker 1: up having this long conversation. He decided, you know, Scott,

608
00:29:11,628 --> 00:29:13,228
Speaker 1: have made the decision. I'm going to retire, but I

609
00:29:13,268 --> 00:29:15,428
Speaker 1: need you to keep this a secret for me. And

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00:29:15,468 --> 00:29:18,588
Speaker 1: what was really really upsetting for so many years is

611
00:29:18,628 --> 00:29:20,788
Speaker 1: he kept a secret for another six to seven years

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00:29:20,868 --> 00:29:23,588
Speaker 1: till he could feel comfortable about telling all of the

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00:29:23,588 --> 00:29:26,388
Speaker 1: people that he had been with in terms of his teammates,

614
00:29:26,428 --> 00:29:29,748
Speaker 1: his coaches, his family. He had told some of his family,

615
00:29:29,868 --> 00:29:32,948
Speaker 1: but to me, what Ryan had to go through personally

616
00:29:33,148 --> 00:29:36,028
Speaker 1: was really difficult. And Ryan is doing so well now.

617
00:29:36,068 --> 00:29:38,588
Speaker 1: He wrote a book. He started right before COVID, he

618
00:29:38,988 --> 00:29:40,948
Speaker 1: started doing some speaking things, and I'll give a little

619
00:29:40,948 --> 00:29:43,668
Speaker 1: plug for Ryan if you're looking for speakers and someone

620
00:29:43,708 --> 00:29:46,348
Speaker 1: to understand his life. I mean, he was near suicidal.

621
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Speaker 1: He's an amazing human being who I love dearly. Scott.

622
00:29:50,028 --> 00:29:53,028
Speaker 1: It's incredible work. And I know how much you've played

623
00:29:53,028 --> 00:29:55,828
Speaker 1: a role in Ryan's story, but also with said Ziegler,

624
00:29:55,948 --> 00:29:58,028
Speaker 1: the writer of the book, with Ryan, and when that

625
00:29:58,068 --> 00:30:00,788
Speaker 1: book was first coming out, how much you've been behind them.

626
00:30:00,828 --> 00:30:03,588
Speaker 1: And you know it's Pride Month, but these stories are

627
00:30:03,668 --> 00:30:05,308
Speaker 1: for twelve on side of the year, and we're in

628
00:30:05,348 --> 00:30:07,788
Speaker 1: a lot better place as a country in twenty twenty

629
00:30:07,788 --> 00:30:09,828
Speaker 1: two than we were in twenty eleven. And it's an

630
00:30:09,868 --> 00:30:12,628
Speaker 1: amazing story and Ryan strength and of course to have

631
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Speaker 1: a support system, including yourself, it's probably very important to

632
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Speaker 1: that young man in an important part of his life.

633
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Speaker 1: We thank you so much for joining our show and

634
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Speaker 1: now you've got more work to be done here while

635
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Speaker 1: you're you're in a place of non football, but always

636
00:30:26,308 --> 00:30:30,188
Speaker 1: football during the offseason. Scott, We appreciate you. Thanks you everybody,

637
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Speaker 1: have a great rest of your week. Guys, just start

638
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Speaker 1: to lead block with news right here. A whoosh of

639
00:30:50,708 --> 00:30:53,988
Speaker 1: energy coming out of the West Coast because of this

640
00:30:54,548 --> 00:30:59,108
Speaker 1: rap sheet says that Deebo Samuel is expected to attend

641
00:30:59,548 --> 00:31:02,588
Speaker 1: mini camp starting today with the forty nine ers. You know,

642
00:31:02,588 --> 00:31:04,868
Speaker 1: we've covered this for a long time. Was now the

643
00:31:04,948 --> 00:31:08,348
Speaker 1: voluntary workouts, there's been a trade demand, all sorts of things,

644
00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:10,908
Speaker 1: and the Niners you've seen the upper Left just one

645
00:31:11,148 --> 00:31:15,508
Speaker 1: of twelve teams who start their mandatory camps today. So

646
00:31:15,548 --> 00:31:17,828
Speaker 1: that's kind of a big deal here in this Cold War,

647
00:31:17,948 --> 00:31:19,668
Speaker 1: at least as we thought it was. Between the such

648
00:31:19,788 --> 00:31:23,268
Speaker 1: the Star and the team. Debo will be there a

649
00:31:23,268 --> 00:31:25,508
Speaker 1: lot to talk about. Peter. Get in this quickly. Let's

650
00:31:25,588 --> 00:31:27,828
Speaker 1: let's our reactions. Yeah, we had Eric Armstead on it

651
00:31:27,908 --> 00:31:29,468
Speaker 1: the draft and he was like, it'll take it'll take

652
00:31:29,508 --> 00:31:31,108
Speaker 1: care of itself. I've spoken to Debo, I'll take care

653
00:31:31,148 --> 00:31:33,188
Speaker 1: of itself. Spoke to John Lynch on and off the

654
00:31:33,268 --> 00:31:35,428
Speaker 1: record said it'll take care of itself. This is a

655
00:31:35,508 --> 00:31:38,108
Speaker 1: huge first step. It kind of nips things in the

656
00:31:38,148 --> 00:31:40,588
Speaker 1: bud for now. Debo is gonna be there. Of course,

657
00:31:40,588 --> 00:31:43,828
Speaker 1: he wants either a trader and a new contract. Well,

658
00:31:43,868 --> 00:31:46,028
Speaker 1: if he wanted to be traded so badly, he wouldn't

659
00:31:46,068 --> 00:31:48,148
Speaker 1: be going to mini camp. I am sure there are

660
00:31:48,228 --> 00:31:52,468
Speaker 1: conversations happening. I can't tell you that this is a

661
00:31:52,548 --> 00:31:55,268
Speaker 1: happy debo, but this is a major, major step and

662
00:31:55,348 --> 00:31:57,468
Speaker 1: a sign that things are at least in a better

663
00:31:57,508 --> 00:31:59,628
Speaker 1: place than they were a month ago when all this

664
00:31:59,668 --> 00:32:04,308
Speaker 1: stuff started coming up. I'll say this, Peter, the new

665
00:32:04,468 --> 00:32:07,868
Speaker 1: CBA that the players and the owners negotiated doesn't allow

666
00:32:07,988 --> 00:32:10,428
Speaker 1: guys to hold out right, So him going to mini

667
00:32:10,508 --> 00:32:13,628
Speaker 1: camp because his mandatory doesn't surprise me. I remember t J.

668
00:32:13,828 --> 00:32:16,868
Speaker 1: Watt having a sit in or hold in in Pittsburgh

669
00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:19,068
Speaker 1: when he was waiting for his new deal. Might not practice,

670
00:32:19,068 --> 00:32:21,228
Speaker 1: but he was there, so I think this is just

671
00:32:21,348 --> 00:32:23,868
Speaker 1: something that the CBA requires the players to do. I

672
00:32:23,908 --> 00:32:25,948
Speaker 1: don't know if it's good or bad. I don't know

673
00:32:25,988 --> 00:32:28,108
Speaker 1: what's going on. I just know Debo's not happy, and

674
00:32:28,188 --> 00:32:30,348
Speaker 1: I know watching him play and seeing him play, he

675
00:32:30,388 --> 00:32:33,148
Speaker 1: deserves the money that he's gonna get. Like that's the

676
00:32:33,148 --> 00:32:35,108
Speaker 1: problem when you're the Niners. When you have a lot

677
00:32:35,188 --> 00:32:38,428
Speaker 1: of good players, guys expect to get paid. Debos arguably

678
00:32:38,628 --> 00:32:41,468
Speaker 1: not argument. He is your best offensive player right now.

679
00:32:41,508 --> 00:32:43,228
Speaker 1: He needs to get paid that type of money. And

680
00:32:43,228 --> 00:32:45,188
Speaker 1: I know you have boats to next. So let's see

681
00:32:45,188 --> 00:32:48,588
Speaker 1: as the saga continues. But I'm glad he's there. I'm

682
00:32:48,588 --> 00:32:50,228
Speaker 1: glad things are working out, and let's see if he

683
00:32:50,228 --> 00:32:54,708
Speaker 1: practices or not in the next coming days. I have

684
00:32:54,828 --> 00:32:57,188
Speaker 1: to agree with Shrigs on this. This is a first

685
00:32:57,468 --> 00:33:01,068
Speaker 1: positive step in the right direction for both sides that

686
00:33:01,148 --> 00:33:03,828
Speaker 1: he's there. If he's really insistent on not being a

687
00:33:03,868 --> 00:33:06,468
Speaker 1: forty nine, I don't think he would have gone to camp.

688
00:33:06,668 --> 00:33:08,868
Speaker 1: I think it would have been fine losing money, but

689
00:33:08,988 --> 00:33:11,668
Speaker 1: he knows the best thing is for both sides to

690
00:33:11,708 --> 00:33:14,348
Speaker 1: try to work something out. John Lynch has come out

691
00:33:14,388 --> 00:33:17,348
Speaker 1: and said I would be a fool to let go

692
00:33:17,428 --> 00:33:20,868
Speaker 1: of Diebo Samuel, and Samuel is what made this engine go.

693
00:33:21,148 --> 00:33:24,388
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers offense changed once Debo Samuel was

694
00:33:24,428 --> 00:33:26,748
Speaker 1: inserted as the running back, and that was because of

695
00:33:26,868 --> 00:33:29,748
Speaker 1: necessity too. Let's remember they had injuries to the running

696
00:33:29,788 --> 00:33:32,028
Speaker 1: game where he Mostert was not there. He was not

697
00:33:32,108 --> 00:33:34,748
Speaker 1: a factor. It wasn't until Elijah Mitchell much later became

698
00:33:34,788 --> 00:33:37,948
Speaker 1: a factor. But it was Debo that made everything go

699
00:33:38,148 --> 00:33:41,068
Speaker 1: in that offense. And also keep in mind, Trey LANs

700
00:33:41,188 --> 00:33:43,548
Speaker 1: is going to be the starting quarterback here, guys, and

701
00:33:43,588 --> 00:33:46,548
Speaker 1: they need Debo to be there to help him out,

702
00:33:46,588 --> 00:33:49,708
Speaker 1: to be that safety valve, to be that reliable safety

703
00:33:49,748 --> 00:33:52,228
Speaker 1: blanket for him. So for me, this is a great

704
00:33:52,268 --> 00:33:55,668
Speaker 1: positive step and hopefully in the coming days weeks we'll

705
00:33:55,708 --> 00:33:58,788
Speaker 1: see a contract being worked out KB hopefully. Yeah, it's

706
00:33:58,828 --> 00:34:01,788
Speaker 1: a positive step. But let's track this closely. Don't confuse

707
00:34:01,828 --> 00:34:04,188
Speaker 1: showing up for mandatory mini camp with being out there

708
00:34:04,388 --> 00:34:06,268
Speaker 1: first and ten from the twenty five In week one,

709
00:34:06,508 --> 00:34:09,548
Speaker 1: Maurice touched on the hold in situation. Just watch this

710
00:34:09,708 --> 00:34:12,748
Speaker 1: next couple of days. Let's see if Debo gets a

711
00:34:12,828 --> 00:34:16,828
Speaker 1: hamstring strain or something like that. I think he is

712
00:34:16,868 --> 00:34:19,228
Speaker 1: there for business reasons. Of course, I'm excited to see

713
00:34:19,268 --> 00:34:21,588
Speaker 1: him there and it's positive in him. Not showing up

714
00:34:21,588 --> 00:34:23,468
Speaker 1: would have been way more toxic. A lot of works

715
00:34:23,468 --> 00:34:25,108
Speaker 1: still to be done on this. I hope he stays

716
00:34:25,148 --> 00:34:27,708
Speaker 1: there because the fact of the matter is the Rams

717
00:34:27,708 --> 00:34:29,788
Speaker 1: took care of their guy. That's a division rival there,

718
00:34:30,148 --> 00:34:32,908
Speaker 1: and the Aaron Donald News has now just been suddenly

719
00:34:32,908 --> 00:34:36,148
Speaker 1: trumped by the apparent Deebo Samuel News. If you didn't

720
00:34:36,148 --> 00:34:37,708
Speaker 1: see the earlier parts of the show, we have been

721
00:34:37,708 --> 00:34:40,428
Speaker 1: reporting this all morning. Aaron Donald, who attended Sean mcvay's

722
00:34:40,468 --> 00:34:44,988
Speaker 1: wedding over the weekend, agreed to a massive, massive, massive deal,

723
00:34:45,428 --> 00:34:47,748
Speaker 1: new three year deal, not an extension, just the same

724
00:34:47,748 --> 00:34:50,908
Speaker 1: time length, over thirty one million dollars per season, the

725
00:34:50,988 --> 00:34:55,068
Speaker 1: highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. Also, his head coach,

726
00:34:55,068 --> 00:34:59,468
Speaker 1: Sean mcvain got married and then talked about his guy. Takeaway, Sean,

727
00:35:01,148 --> 00:35:05,228
Speaker 1: it's not great news, it's phenomenal, outstanding, any ice adjective

728
00:35:05,268 --> 00:35:07,788
Speaker 1: that you can place around it. But it's it's a

729
00:35:07,788 --> 00:35:09,628
Speaker 1: big deal and he's earned it. He truly is one

730
00:35:09,668 --> 00:35:11,908
Speaker 1: of one, in my opinion, means so much to me

731
00:35:12,028 --> 00:35:14,988
Speaker 1: to our organization. I think the respect that he's garnered

732
00:35:14,988 --> 00:35:16,908
Speaker 1: around this league from guys that have done it at

733
00:35:16,948 --> 00:35:19,228
Speaker 1: such a high level, what he's accomplished through his eight

734
00:35:19,308 --> 00:35:22,428
Speaker 1: years Kirk is unparalleled, and so wanted to be able

735
00:35:22,428 --> 00:35:25,708
Speaker 1: to find a solution to getting him taken care of

736
00:35:25,788 --> 00:35:27,948
Speaker 1: having him continue to lead the way for our team,

737
00:35:27,988 --> 00:35:29,948
Speaker 1: for our defense. And you know, we had a feeling

738
00:35:29,948 --> 00:35:31,508
Speaker 1: it was training in the right direction when he was

739
00:35:31,548 --> 00:35:34,788
Speaker 1: at my wedding on Saturday night. So a lot of

740
00:35:34,788 --> 00:35:38,388
Speaker 1: good things have happened the last couple of days. They

741
00:35:38,468 --> 00:35:40,868
Speaker 1: really have Sean, but this is not one of them.

742
00:35:41,188 --> 00:35:43,028
Speaker 1: Let me explain what you're looking at. Our friends of

743
00:35:43,068 --> 00:35:45,308
Speaker 1: Pro Football focused. They came up with their top ten

744
00:35:45,348 --> 00:35:47,628
Speaker 1: list of head coach rankings, and you can put your

745
00:35:47,628 --> 00:35:50,028
Speaker 1: finger up to your TV screen and scan and scan

746
00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:53,068
Speaker 1: and scan. You will not see the name Sean McVay.

747
00:35:53,268 --> 00:35:56,668
Speaker 1: They have their own very specific metric and their analytics

748
00:35:56,668 --> 00:35:58,988
Speaker 1: and their formula to determine the best coaches based on

749
00:35:59,028 --> 00:36:01,908
Speaker 1: their roster and the results of those coaches can get

750
00:36:01,948 --> 00:36:05,468
Speaker 1: out of the roster. Belichick had one McCarthy at ten

751
00:36:05,948 --> 00:36:09,348
Speaker 1: No Sean McVay, guy who just won the Super Bowl,

752
00:36:09,428 --> 00:36:11,068
Speaker 1: guy got to a second one. I think he did

753
00:36:11,068 --> 00:36:13,628
Speaker 1: it when he was a teenager. So take this wherever

754
00:36:13,668 --> 00:36:15,988
Speaker 1: you want, though, it doesn't have to be about McVay, although, Maurice,

755
00:36:16,228 --> 00:36:18,108
Speaker 1: since you're up first, you might take a few hacks

756
00:36:18,108 --> 00:36:19,748
Speaker 1: at this. What do you what's your what do you

757
00:36:20,148 --> 00:36:22,268
Speaker 1: make of this list? Right here? From my friends at PFF.

758
00:36:22,828 --> 00:36:25,868
Speaker 1: I don't know how Sean mcvay's not there. I'm still

759
00:36:25,948 --> 00:36:28,348
Speaker 1: kind of baffled by it. I believe that Sean McVay

760
00:36:28,388 --> 00:36:30,748
Speaker 1: has done an awesome job since he's been the head coach,

761
00:36:30,828 --> 00:36:33,348
Speaker 1: starting what it was thirty two, maybe younger than that.

762
00:36:33,388 --> 00:36:35,068
Speaker 1: I forget what it was at the time. I might

763
00:36:35,108 --> 00:36:36,788
Speaker 1: have been thirty two when that happened. But this is

764
00:36:36,788 --> 00:36:38,988
Speaker 1: the thing. Ever since he's been the National Football League

765
00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:40,708
Speaker 1: as a head coach with Los Angeles Rams, they've been

766
00:36:40,748 --> 00:36:43,228
Speaker 1: ranked in the top of offense. They've win to back

767
00:36:43,228 --> 00:36:45,308
Speaker 1: to back Super Bowls, they've been to the playoffs, they

768
00:36:45,388 --> 00:36:48,908
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs one year. He's just been a winner.

769
00:36:49,348 --> 00:36:52,228
Speaker 1: And let's not remember he won with the team the

770
00:36:52,308 --> 00:36:55,548
Speaker 1: year before with Jeff Fisher that won four games or

771
00:36:55,548 --> 00:36:58,148
Speaker 1: five games, and so he took a team from there

772
00:36:58,188 --> 00:37:00,708
Speaker 1: and they just took off. And so he's been used

773
00:37:00,748 --> 00:37:05,428
Speaker 1: to winning. It seems like whatever algorithm or whatever deal

774
00:37:05,468 --> 00:37:09,908
Speaker 1: that PFF is using doesn't account for just wins. He's

775
00:37:09,948 --> 00:37:12,908
Speaker 1: a flat out winner, which whoever it may be, Jared Golf,

776
00:37:12,948 --> 00:37:18,788
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, Robert Woods, Brandon Cook, Sammy Watkins, different offensive lineman,

777
00:37:18,908 --> 00:37:22,868
Speaker 1: different defensive coordinators. Every year of Sean mcvay's career he's

778
00:37:22,948 --> 00:37:25,668
Speaker 1: lost an assistant coach to either being a head coach

779
00:37:25,948 --> 00:37:28,748
Speaker 1: or being an OC somewhere else, and yet he continues

780
00:37:28,788 --> 00:37:31,428
Speaker 1: to win. I mean, it's ridiculous that he's not on

781
00:37:31,508 --> 00:37:33,348
Speaker 1: this list. He might be number one in the league

782
00:37:33,428 --> 00:37:34,908
Speaker 1: right now and he's not there in the top ten.

783
00:37:34,948 --> 00:37:36,668
Speaker 1: I would add this point. You know, for all the

784
00:37:36,748 --> 00:37:38,748
Speaker 1: dream team talk, and I look at the way that

785
00:37:38,908 --> 00:37:41,068
Speaker 1: PFF did this, and they're like, based on the roster,

786
00:37:41,188 --> 00:37:43,068
Speaker 1: who got the most out of their roster over the

787
00:37:43,108 --> 00:37:45,188
Speaker 1: longest period of time. For all the dream team talk,

788
00:37:45,228 --> 00:37:47,508
Speaker 1: in the final quarter of the Super Bowl, he didn't

789
00:37:47,508 --> 00:37:51,028
Speaker 1: have Odell Beckham, he did not have Robert Woods. He

790
00:37:51,068 --> 00:37:54,908
Speaker 1: had Cooper Cup, he had Ben Scolnick, he had Bryson

791
00:37:54,988 --> 00:37:59,148
Speaker 1: Hopkins and he had Stafford and Darryl Henderson and guess what,

792
00:37:59,228 --> 00:38:00,788
Speaker 1: they found a way to win. So for all that

793
00:38:00,908 --> 00:38:03,668
Speaker 1: dream team stuff and wasn't like it was all these

794
00:38:03,708 --> 00:38:06,428
Speaker 1: all pros out there. But forget McVay not being in

795
00:38:06,468 --> 00:38:12,748
Speaker 1: the top ten. Kingsbury at four, gosh, I mean all

796
00:38:12,788 --> 00:38:15,268
Speaker 1: I hear about is that this guy can't coach, right,

797
00:38:15,308 --> 00:38:17,868
Speaker 1: I mean that's all we hear in This team always

798
00:38:17,908 --> 00:38:21,548
Speaker 1: falls apart. And then how about the respect PFF has

799
00:38:21,588 --> 00:38:24,988
Speaker 1: given Kingsbury. And to me, this is what's interesting, because

800
00:38:25,028 --> 00:38:29,188
Speaker 1: I think Cliff's done a tremendous job in Arizona. Look

801
00:38:29,188 --> 00:38:31,868
Speaker 1: at what they've done in his three years as coach,

802
00:38:32,268 --> 00:38:34,508
Speaker 1: and look at where the trajectory is. So he gets

803
00:38:34,508 --> 00:38:36,548
Speaker 1: there and it's that first year with Kyler and they're

804
00:38:36,548 --> 00:38:39,548
Speaker 1: in last place, five ten and one. Next year they

805
00:38:39,628 --> 00:38:41,348
Speaker 1: fell apart at the end. They go eight and eight.

806
00:38:41,668 --> 00:38:44,148
Speaker 1: Last year they go eleven and six. If you're following this,

807
00:38:44,268 --> 00:38:47,628
Speaker 1: it's three wins then three wins, all right, they should

808
00:38:47,628 --> 00:38:50,508
Speaker 1: be going fourteen three this year. That's what's expected if

809
00:38:50,508 --> 00:38:54,188
Speaker 1: the trajectory is right for PFF to put Kingsbury at fourth. Overall,

810
00:38:54,228 --> 00:38:56,708
Speaker 1: I know he just resigned and got a new contract

811
00:38:56,788 --> 00:38:59,388
Speaker 1: from the Cardinals. I'm not sure what they paid him.

812
00:38:59,388 --> 00:39:01,108
Speaker 1: I might want to rip that contract up and then

813
00:39:01,148 --> 00:39:05,228
Speaker 1: just hand the owner this list and say, get Tomlin

814
00:39:05,268 --> 00:39:08,948
Speaker 1: and McVeigh I'm fourth, give me that money. A little

815
00:39:08,948 --> 00:39:13,108
Speaker 1: surprised and kind of like it. Yeah, not really feeling

816
00:39:13,348 --> 00:39:16,988
Speaker 1: that pick or a lot of this lists here shrikes

817
00:39:17,028 --> 00:39:21,548
Speaker 1: because keep in mind, with Kingsbury, the team has faded

818
00:39:21,548 --> 00:39:24,268
Speaker 1: in the second half of the last two seasons, so

819
00:39:24,628 --> 00:39:27,028
Speaker 1: to have him up that high, I hear what you're

820
00:39:27,068 --> 00:39:29,348
Speaker 1: saying about the trajectory, but he's got a close. The

821
00:39:29,388 --> 00:39:33,148
Speaker 1: same goes with Shanahan. Love Shanahan offensive wizard and what

822
00:39:33,228 --> 00:39:35,308
Speaker 1: he does with that offense, but he has to close.

823
00:39:35,508 --> 00:39:37,988
Speaker 1: So I'm scratching my head with some of those choices.

824
00:39:38,028 --> 00:39:40,428
Speaker 1: But his most mind boggling for me is the fact

825
00:39:40,428 --> 00:39:43,628
Speaker 1: that Mike Tomlin is not on this top ten list.

826
00:39:44,148 --> 00:39:48,308
Speaker 1: Why is he not on this list after sixteen seasons,

827
00:39:49,028 --> 00:39:51,788
Speaker 1: never has had a losing record and what's been the

828
00:39:51,788 --> 00:39:57,708
Speaker 1: most consistently competitive division in the NFL. Ten playoff appearances,

829
00:39:57,708 --> 00:40:01,788
Speaker 1: seven division titles, two Super Bowl appearances, and a Super

830
00:40:01,788 --> 00:40:05,748
Speaker 1: Bowl ring. He got to five hundred, five hundred with

831
00:40:05,868 --> 00:40:09,948
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph as his quarterback. He got to the playoffs

832
00:40:10,028 --> 00:40:13,868
Speaker 1: last season with Ben Roethlisberger, who was a shell of himself.

833
00:40:14,188 --> 00:40:16,868
Speaker 1: It was a weekend at Ben's the way that that

834
00:40:16,988 --> 00:40:20,548
Speaker 1: offense has tried out there with Ben Roethlisberger. So he

835
00:40:20,588 --> 00:40:23,828
Speaker 1: has been five hundred or better since two thousand and

836
00:40:23,908 --> 00:40:27,068
Speaker 1: seven and gets the most out of this roster in

837
00:40:27,188 --> 00:40:31,508
Speaker 1: developing guys. I am just absolutely floored that he is

838
00:40:31,548 --> 00:40:35,668
Speaker 1: not on the list. It just surprises me that McCarthy

839
00:40:35,828 --> 00:40:39,988
Speaker 1: is number ten. What over Tomlin? No, I'm gonna break

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Speaker 1: script here, I was gonna talk about Matt Lafleur. Is

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Speaker 1: this the worst list I've ever seen in my life?

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Speaker 1: Let me try to context you here, all right. Our

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Speaker 1: friends at PF go for approach things differently, and I

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Speaker 1: pulled up the list. Let me just try to explain,

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Speaker 1: all right. They made this based on accounting for the

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Speaker 1: team's talent level. They created a quote multi level model

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Speaker 1: where the fixed effects are the salaries of each starter

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, including an indicator for

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Speaker 1: if the player is a rookie. In other words, they

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Speaker 1: go deep. But like, my god, do you remember last

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Speaker 1: Memorial Day? There was this viral article that came out

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Speaker 1: where this writer, I don't know his name, came out

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Speaker 1: and said grilling food on a grill is the worst

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Speaker 1: thing to do. It's disgusting, it's not efficient, it's actually

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Speaker 1: a terrible thing to do. And the entire United States

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Speaker 1: of America just pounced on this person. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to accuse PF of trolling here, but I just when

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Speaker 1: they start talking about their multi level model, normally we

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Speaker 1: follow and we love it, and they coming from at

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Speaker 1: it differently. But I feel like I'm talking to my

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Speaker 1: friend who's like into crypto and telling me, I gotta

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Speaker 1: get you know, cyber dollars and I'll have a yacht.

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Speaker 1: I know football, and I know there's many metrics by

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Speaker 1: which to decide them. I know Mike McCarthy ain't top ten.

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Speaker 1: I just I just know it. I know Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: is top ten. So I'm trying to like dislocate my

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Speaker 1: spine to bend over backwards because of my respect for PF.

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Speaker 1: But here in the collective room, here in Good Morning Football,

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel some distaste for the list by

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Speaker 1: any metric possible. And Peter helped me here. We love PF.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is their best work, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. You know, the Beatles had crappy album.

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Speaker 1: There comes this point where there has to be an

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Speaker 1: editorial chief and Chris Collinsworth has to look at this

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Speaker 1: list and say, we're good with this. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: Collinsworth must have looked at this list and said, yep,

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Speaker 1: I'm good with this. I think it's a ridiculous list too.

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Speaker 1: But they have their algorithm, they have their model, and

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Speaker 1: I give them a little respect. They could have gone

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Speaker 1: chalk and just said, well, like Tomlins had a lot

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Speaker 1: of years and Pete Carroll's had a lot of years

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Speaker 1: and consistency and they've had elongated times in the league.

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Speaker 1: They went with Kingsbury and McCarthy. Okay, all right, I

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Speaker 1: should say this PFF's just edited. They put out two

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Speaker 1: point zero and they got Matt Rule is the number

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Speaker 1: one coach in NFL. So that they're just gonna do

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Speaker 1: what they want to do and that's fine and we

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Speaker 1: respect it. Those guys really went for it on that one.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't check it out, and we will see

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Speaker 1: you guys tomorrow. It's a great list for Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Peter shows them me again.