WEBVTT - David Cross

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<v Speaker 1>The Craig Ferguson Pants on Fire Tour is on sale now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a new show, it's new material, but I'm afraid

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<v Speaker 1>it's still only me, Craig Ferguson on my own, standing

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<v Speaker 1>on a stage telling comedy words. Come and see me,

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<v Speaker 1>buy tickets, bring your loved ones, or don't come and

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<v Speaker 1>see me. Don't buy tickets and don't bring your loved ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>You come or don't come, but you should at least

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<v Speaker 1>know what's happening, and it is. The tour kicks off

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<v Speaker 1>late September and goes through the end of the year

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<v Speaker 1>and beyond. Tickets are available at the Craig Ferguson Show

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<v Speaker 1>dot com slash tour. They are available at the Craig

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<v Speaker 1>Ferguson show dot com slash tour or at your local

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<v Speaker 1>outlet in your region. My name is Craig Ferguson. The

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<v Speaker 1>name of this podcast is Joy. I talk to interest

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<v Speaker 1>in people about what brings them happiness. So, bowing to

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<v Speaker 1>pressure from Earth, everyone on Earth has said I have

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<v Speaker 1>to learn how to do these podcasts remotely. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is the first one, and luckily it's with someone that

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<v Speaker 1>I've known off and on, but hardly not at all

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<v Speaker 1>since the nineteen nineties when he was a guest on

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<v Speaker 1>the Drew Carey Show. He's way too cool to have

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<v Speaker 1>been on the Drew Carey Show, and he's way too

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<v Speaker 1>cool to be on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>But he is very cool. Here's David Cross.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what I'm saying is I was slightly nervous

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<v Speaker 1>about having you on the show today because I've always

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<v Speaker 1>thought that you were much cooler as a comic than

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else I've ever seen do stand up comedy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you seem to have an air of That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>meant when I said I feel like you're plugged in,

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<v Speaker 1>you are kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you confusing coolness with condien? Since condon con condescension, condescension, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I was struggling. I was thinking not condensation.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be a little that would mean I was a

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<v Speaker 2>little clammy.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, I I'm as a comedian, I can be

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<v Speaker 1>very condescension or condensation or clammy.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I don't know. I mean that. I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>like I met you years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember this when you were a guest show? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but on the Drew Carrey Show. Do you remember that? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, babe, I mean that was like

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineties. That was quite a while ago. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just a young, innocent babe, fresh to Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 2>wide eyed stars in my eyes, so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>What That's not how I remember at all. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>you as being you were doing Mister Show then, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember saying to Drew at the time, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>guy's way too cool to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck is he do this? I'll that it works.

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<v Speaker 2>I did one episode of that show, and it paid

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<v Speaker 2>me more than a year of Mister Show. So oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean sweet sick com money. Oh yeah, doing a

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<v Speaker 2>multi camera show, which I've done gosh, you know, probably

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<v Speaker 2>ten maybe over the years, ten episodes of various things.

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<v Speaker 2>And my wife did a full season on Two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half Men. And it is, shockingly, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>the literally the easiest job, and maybe the world it

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<v Speaker 2>might be. I mean yeah, like, because there's the read

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<v Speaker 2>through on Monday. Nobody comes around ten o'clock and there's

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<v Speaker 2>like a half hour chit chatting and getting bagels and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you read the scripts, which aren't very good,

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<v Speaker 2>and then and then you listen all the writers grotesquely

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<v Speaker 2>cackle at their own jokes. And it's a strange thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like across the board. It doesn't matter where you go. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they all do the same thing. They all have the

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<v Speaker 2>same laugh. And then you read and I'm talking about acting,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you then you leave like all right bye,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the writers go and then you come back,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe on a Wednesday, yep, and you read the

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<v Speaker 2>script that's been worked on, and I think you start

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<v Speaker 2>to put it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>You start to put it up on Wednesday?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, You kind of walk down, but you start blocking

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes and walking through them a little wit.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's still changes happening writing wise, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>you start putting it together. It's still very easy. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of downtime. Yep. Thursday is a full day, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday is the one full day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, camera blocking and you get all your positions right,

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<v Speaker 1>get all your marks on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday is a full day, and then Friday you come

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<v Speaker 2>in later and you do two tapings which can last,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a long time, but when day, when it's

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<v Speaker 2>a well oiled machine, it doesn't last that long, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And you do pick ups, say good night, you go

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<v Speaker 2>to I guess Muslim Frank's what do you people do?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you? Where do you go?

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<v Speaker 1>And then they used to always go to a place

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. I think it was called Residuals. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a bar in the valley that. Yeah, the people

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<v Speaker 1>used to go. Yeah, I know, Residuals. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>People used to go to that bar, or there was

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<v Speaker 2>another bar. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sober by the time I started and Drew

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<v Speaker 1>so like, and I wasn't that long sober either, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was terrified.

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<v Speaker 2>Really to try.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it was funny because I got the job.

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<v Speaker 1>I was only a couple of years sober, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was really confused by it because I thought, when I

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<v Speaker 1>got sober, this is going to help my career. But

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in the Drew Carry Show was getting drunk along

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think it helped my career at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it slowed me down. But it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was what it was when we were doing the Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Carry Show. That was before you the rest of development,

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<v Speaker 1>but you were doing Mister Show, and I thought when

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<v Speaker 1>you and Bob were doing that, that was People used

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<v Speaker 1>to call it alternative comedy, right, that was.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the thing that well, yeah, I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one of those things. I think somebody from

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<v Speaker 2>the La Times or LA Weekly or some buddy doing

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<v Speaker 2>a story came up with that and then it just stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. We never called ourselves alternative.

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<v Speaker 1>But that that was the thing that I came through

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<v Speaker 1>in Britain. It was all like when I was coming

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<v Speaker 1>up doing stand up there. It was all alternative comedy

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like the comic strip and the comedy

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<v Speaker 1>store in London And did.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever play over there? Oh? I played in London

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's London too. I mean, I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back there in April. I'm about to it's and thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for asking about to start on this tour. You're

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<v Speaker 2>right called the end of the beginning of the end

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<v Speaker 2>tour and you can go to official David Cross dot

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<v Speaker 2>com for information where I'm going to be, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. But I will be doing the European you know,

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<v Speaker 2>UK leg in April, so I will be in Edinburgh, Glasgow.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you playing in Glasgow? Do you know the

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<v Speaker 2>name of the gig? I don't offhand. I could find out,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't. It's was it or Moore last the

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<v Speaker 2>last two times it was there. That's a great place,

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<v Speaker 2>or that's the converted church, right, yeah, it's it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the Oran more it was. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>fun show, and there was I did this thing in

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<v Speaker 2>my last tour where I bring people up on stage

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<v Speaker 2>to read a script with me that I'd written. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some I did I don't know eighty shows

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<v Speaker 2>and some people just nailed it, were amazing, including a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a fourteen year old who just nailed it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some subtle jokes in there, some not so subtle jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>But and then some people were just terrible that I

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<v Speaker 2>had to occasionally boot people off the stage and say

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<v Speaker 2>just replace them with somebody else. But the one fittingly

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<v Speaker 2>giving its reputation, given its reputation, the Wand in Glasgow

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<v Speaker 2>was I This woman was so fucking annoying and awful,

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<v Speaker 2>drunk trying to she was critiquing the script and then

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<v Speaker 2>trying to punch it up. And now to your credit,

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<v Speaker 2>she was from Liverpool. But all right, okay, yeah it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was of the you know, we had our

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<v Speaker 2>top five at our bottom five, and she was in

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom three of she was terrible and it's moatly

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<v Speaker 2>but it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But I see that's what I would never I hate

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of having antibody on stage with me, even

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<v Speaker 1>if I know them, even if I like them, never mind,

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<v Speaker 1>you know somebody I don't. I won't even I work.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so committed to working alone. I won't go on

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<v Speaker 1>stage if I have to poop. I'm like, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to leave before I go on stage. Are doing it, Craig, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is part of you? No, it's only not It's only

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<v Speaker 2>not you once you poop. I think it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>Schroeder's cat thing. It's a it is you until you poop,

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<v Speaker 2>then it's not you. So you should go on stage

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<v Speaker 2>if you got a poop.

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<v Speaker 1>I I have a real, profoundly disagree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>That is foreign, alien entity that's trying to escape.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think what it is is it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>the trash and I and I won't go on stage

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<v Speaker 1>with a bag of trash in my pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you you are. We're all partly bags of trash.

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<v Speaker 1>Praig, come on now, But I but I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I could have that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like going on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the feeling of of of needing to poop,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is distract different. That is.

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<v Speaker 2>Valid, and I get it. That's different. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing an hour and fifteen minutes, an hour twenty minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody wants to go on stage going I got to

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<v Speaker 2>take a massive ship. But let me do an hour

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<v Speaker 2>and a half first.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, have you ever have you ever been caught

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<v Speaker 1>short on stage? Because I've never knock on wood, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never actually had to. I've heard of one comedian who

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<v Speaker 1>did have to say, I'm sorry, I have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom and uh, I had to leave the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't ask me who it was. It was Sindbad. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no shame in that. I don't give a shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, seriously, it's a if you gotta go, you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta go, and then what I did show must go

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<v Speaker 2>on doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, you can't just say all right,

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<v Speaker 1>hi on everybody, I'm going to go in if pooh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an emergency, yes you do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Sindbad wouldn't have stopped h if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>an emergency. And you know, then you're then you're while

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing your set, your other part of your brain

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<v Speaker 2>is calculating, like, can I get away with this? Am

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta ship my pant? What's what's more embarrassing leaving

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<v Speaker 2>and saying I got to take a dump or actually

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<v Speaker 2>shitting my pants? Well, obviously it's it's shitting my pants,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't want to do that. So shit, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have a couple times I've left to I drink

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<v Speaker 2>a lot while I'm on stage. Well you mean alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>or just water beer? Beer? Right? Well, that makes you

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<v Speaker 2>want to see exactly, So I have I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say probably six seven times I've gone I really got

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<v Speaker 2>to take a piss and I can't hold it any longer.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, you know, I usually the first three, four

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<v Speaker 2>or five minutes is engaging the audience, talking to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I never just come out and go, hey, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what's funny about raisins. You know, I just I always

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<v Speaker 2>kind of form into it, and I've seen or talked

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody at some point, and then I will just

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<v Speaker 2>give them the MIC and go, I got to take it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to take a piss. This will only take honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll take under two minutes. I mean the thing backstage,

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<v Speaker 2>will you entertain the folks? And sometimes they just sit there,

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<v Speaker 2>there's laughter. Other people will help them. Sometimes they just

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<v Speaker 2>start and they start telling jokes or they start talking,

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<v Speaker 2>and and it's always it's never not at least mildly amusing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I take two minutes. You do that right now?

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<v Speaker 2>On the new tour? Will you do that? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if it comes to that, I'll try not to. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a thing I do. It's not like a bit

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Yeah, I've I've thought, I've done the calculation

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm doing my and you know, being a stand up,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do your whole set in your mind can

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<v Speaker 2>wander while you're doing the set, oh and go back

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<v Speaker 2>home and check the did I turn up the other

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<v Speaker 2>let me think, you know, all that stuff is still

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<v Speaker 2>going like and then the lady comes up to me

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<v Speaker 2>and has the audacity you know in you but in

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<v Speaker 2>your other brain you're so I'll sit there and I'll think,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just do the math like I can hold it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can hold it for another what twenty five thirty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes it's behind and and then sometimes not often, as

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<v Speaker 2>I said, maybe seven eight times I don't know. You're like, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not I'm gonna have to go pee and

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<v Speaker 2>I tell them I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you should embrace it more because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're getting a little older. We all are, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, peing's peeing and pooing is like it's much less,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, disciplined. Then maybe you should just I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that, have a diaper. Have a diaper when you

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<v Speaker 1>go on.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like al Jorgensen would perform seriously, Al Jorgensen used

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<v Speaker 2>to wear a diaper. Yeah, really that was the his

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<v Speaker 2>him and Albanie when they would do there. And I

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<v Speaker 2>met al Jorganson a couple of times. I did like old,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, it was Air America or something like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and he's nuts, you know, uh, he's just bonkers.

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<v Speaker 2>And but yeah, that was he openly. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like he wore a diaper on stage in case because

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<v Speaker 2>he also would drink a lot and then do drugs

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff and they'd be playing well.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you say openly wear a diaper, like the

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<v Speaker 1>did you walk on stage with a diaper and no

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<v Speaker 1>pants so you can see the diaper?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, it was more of Yeah, I wear a diaper,

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<v Speaker 2>so what I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me through the title. The end of the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the end is this. Uh, it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>farewell tour.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's the first of many farewell tours. No, not really.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting and I hope people don't think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. I have no plans to retire until I

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<v Speaker 2>can't do it anymore. But I mean, I really really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy it. It's one of my fast I agree. I

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<v Speaker 2>just love it. And it's really about where we are,

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<v Speaker 2>the tenor and the feeling of where we are in history.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay we specifically not not that. It's also completely open

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<v Speaker 2>to interpretation, sure, and uh and I it tended to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But for me, it's about, you know, by the time

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<v Speaker 2>this tour is over, a number of people in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States will have made a very monumental decision and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see what that portends. And it's it could be

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing or bad thing, and you could even

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<v Speaker 2>even take it outside of the the you know, this context,

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<v Speaker 2>and it could be the end of the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the end. So it's either the beginning of the end

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<v Speaker 2>is over and now we're in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>end that we're heading towards the end, the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the end, or it's the end of what was the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the end, you mean of life on earth,

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<v Speaker 2>or totally up to you. It could be whatever, America,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be whatever you think you know? Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean because you're you're not You're not shy about

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<v Speaker 1>doing political stuff when you're working?

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<v Speaker 2>You are you? Are you doing politics? And that well

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<v Speaker 2>I started, I've been more coquettish about it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>will do it from I'll put my finger in between

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<v Speaker 2>my lips like this and go, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I've made a whoopsie. So I'm a little shy about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Please don't ever do that again. That's yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 2>very arising. Yeah no, please don't ever do that again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, okay, so you get you don't you get

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<v Speaker 1>coquetish about policies?

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<v Speaker 2>Will way like you don't do it, or you do

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<v Speaker 2>do it? Or you a fan? I take a like

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<v Speaker 2>a Chinese fan and I wave it in front of

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<v Speaker 2>me and I kind of obscure my mouth and then

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<v Speaker 2>I go, did I make a See you're doing it again?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're doing it? I did do it? Again. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so sorry you did do it again. Apologies.

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<v Speaker 1>What about have you ever had like because I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it was just before the I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know too late sixteen election. I think I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>a show in Chicago and I'd never seen this before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was I don't really do politics in the

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<v Speaker 1>act at all, Like, no, it's a stylistic choice. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to do it. I feel like I get

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<v Speaker 1>annoyed at the people I agree with. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a it's a feeling. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>like to do it. I used to have to do

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<v Speaker 1>it in late night and I didn't like to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was doing a show in Chicago, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even talking about politics and a fight broke out

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<v Speaker 1>in the audience and it was, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a Hillary supporter and a Trump supporter.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was that election twenty sixteen. I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I've never seen that. Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>did chows in Glasgow.

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<v Speaker 1>Fights had broken out in the audience before I went

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<v Speaker 1>on stage and then you just kind of worked through

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<v Speaker 1>the fight.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'd never seen it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get reactions to material because people feel, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>empowered to let you know what they think. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean not the last tour, not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I got a lot of it in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen on that tour, the Making America Great Again Tour,

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<v Speaker 2>And I've always gotten some stuff. Mostly it's less about politics,

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<v Speaker 2>mostly about religion. When I do those things, and again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people will be vocal and it's but it's

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<v Speaker 2>never been It's never been a feeling like oh shit

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<v Speaker 2>and you know it's about to kick off kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But in twenty sixteen, that tour had a people walking

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<v Speaker 2>out almost every show, if not every show, and mostly

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<v Speaker 2>or at least half the time, they were not vocal

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<v Speaker 2>about it. They would just leave rump and or but

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<v Speaker 2>half the time. I think it did one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eleven shows that tour, all you know, internationally, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>and people were very vocal. I had a woman and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say it was either Tampa Bay or

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<v Speaker 2>Orlando who was Tampa Bay who walked down. I did

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of anti cop stuff too, and through beer

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<v Speaker 2>at me, and then when people were heckling her, she

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<v Speaker 2>was like what she was drunk too. It was Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, both barrels, you know, middle finger, like

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<v Speaker 2>fuck you motherfucker, just screaming and all kinds of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had it, you know, more than ever that

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<v Speaker 2>I was used to. I had had that and more

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<v Speaker 2>than I certainly I expected. And and again some people

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<v Speaker 2>would leave quietly and some people would leave very very vocally.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had a guy quit, a security guard. I

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<v Speaker 2>was in. I was in Pittsburgh. I was I was

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<v Speaker 2>at the Carnegie whatever the theater there is, and like

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<v Speaker 2>Munson Hall or people was which I played. I played,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's great. So there's always a bunch of but

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, there are two guys on either side of

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<v Speaker 2>the stage, you know, security windbreaker jackets, and and I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing some Trump stuff and uh and the best

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<v Speaker 2>part about it was I don't remember the joke, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember exactly what I had said, but it

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<v Speaker 2>you could not have scripted the timing better so that

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<v Speaker 2>when he goes, fuck this is bullshit, I fucking quit,

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<v Speaker 2>and he tore off his security thing. He's like this

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<v Speaker 2>fucking bullet. I quit. And he's tromped up the aisle

0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.560
<v Speaker 2>and he threw his jacket down, tramped up the aisle

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<v Speaker 2>opened the the back doors, but you know it's all backlit,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can in the doors close slowly in those

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<v Speaker 2>old theaters, so you could hear him yelling until you

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<v Speaker 2>know everything was done. Fuck this and then and then

0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.639
<v Speaker 2>everybody thought it was a bit because I've done things

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<v Speaker 2>like that right in my stand up before about plants

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<v Speaker 2>and and I mean, it was the perfect timing, and

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.399
<v Speaker 2>it I had to convince people that wasn't a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, don't fire that guy. He's upset,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay, he'll come back tomorrow, whatever, don't don't fire him.

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<v Speaker 2>And and just you know, some some reactions that were

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<v Speaker 2>certainly went beyond anything I'd ever experienced. And I've had

0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:09.320
<v Speaker 2>people angry and kind of threatened me, but I think

0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:14.800
<v Speaker 2>there were basically empty threats. But that tour was was

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<v Speaker 2>that was that about politics?

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<v Speaker 1>Are really because you said you got it from mostly

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<v Speaker 1>because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do a lot of politics. I really don't. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, I mean, it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like it because it's pretty harsh, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think people there are plenty of people who consider me

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<v Speaker 2>a political cup of comedian. But if you go through

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<v Speaker 2>my material. It's like, I don't know, twenty percent is

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a lot that's not you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's like people that are just

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<v Speaker 1>really touchy about about it now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, to your point, this is a new

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<v Speaker 2>there's been a shift. You know, it feels different, and

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<v Speaker 2>it feels different since and there's a reason it feels different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not you know, everything changed when uh, this figure

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<v Speaker 2>like Trump came and and it was for you know,

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 2>half the people he was like, fucking finally somebody to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, say call bullshit on all this shit. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the other half the people were horrified, like this

0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 2>guy's a fucking I mean, forget that he's a rapist, creepy,

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 2>pathological liar in narsis. I mean, he's he's a cun man,

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.680
<v Speaker 2>he's cunning. And and so half the people are like yeah,

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 2>and the other people were outraged at the you know,

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 2>the gullibility that these people had or their willingness to

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<v Speaker 2>overlook just horrific shit about this guy, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>and and just say yeah, he's he's gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he speaks to me and my anti government ship. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you know that only got exponentially war as time

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<v Speaker 2>went on and and you know, those people dug in

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.359
<v Speaker 2>and then the other people became even more horrified, and

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:09.919
<v Speaker 2>and families have been torn up and broken up, and

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, people have lost people to QAnon and all

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 2>that kind of ship and conspiracy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I mean that that's all of that stuff though,

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the conspiracy theory stuff and the radicalization of people on

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, on left or right or or not

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 1>even identifiably left or right, is I think a product

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<v Speaker 1>of a of an unrestrained kind of mad sewer pipe

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.440
<v Speaker 1>of the Internet, of the Internet, you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just it's it's the perfect storm. It's you know,

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:46.639
<v Speaker 2>that guy came along while this the Internet was you

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<v Speaker 2>know in it's and it's kind of as as four

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<v Speaker 2>Chan was, you know, an eight chan and the Silk

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<v Speaker 2>Road and everybody could have this, you know, the dark

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<v Speaker 2>web where you can go on and and hire hitmen

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, get it's not really a thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>I mean because I hear but that I like, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Can barely find you know, the home depot app. Never

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<v Speaker 1>mind the you know, it's like I mean the fact

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that people can do all of that, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be terrified.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, you have other things in your life.

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Some of these folks have nothing else, and they are

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 2>so aggrieved and they're they're willing to and they're victimized

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:32.199
<v Speaker 2>in their head, in their minds, and they're willing. And

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 2>it happens. You lose family members, you lose some people,

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 2>lose their jobs, whatever, and they become this is a

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 2>righteous journey. I'm on and I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 1>But but there is a there's a kind of It's

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>funny because you said earlier on that you had talked

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<v Speaker 1>about religion, had sometimes you know, talking about religion that'd

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<v Speaker 1>going you a little bit, and it and it does

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it has a you know, cult like.

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Followings. His very nature feels religious.

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.879
<v Speaker 1>When I came up, there was a mula this playing

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<v Speaker 1>in particularly in the West of Scotland or in Ireland.

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:10.640
<v Speaker 2>If you go into the.

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 1>Wrong area with a crowd that seems perfectly reasonable. You

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 1>can wander into a neighborhood just talking, you know, if

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you're riffing on stage and suddenly find yourself in a

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>world of fucking bag yeah.

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:26.400
<v Speaker 2>And you don't know, well, there's that great. It's one

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 2>of the few actual funny things that Wenny Bruce did.

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 2>I think he's an amazing person. I don't think he's

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:37.680
<v Speaker 2>really that funny. But the bit about the guy who

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 2>plays who insists on playing Royal Albert Hall the American comic,

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that. It's a really funny bit, and

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 2>it's basically the manager talking to him because he wants

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 2>to play. He's like clearly not ready. The band is

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 2>trying to talk him out of it, and then he's bombing.

0:25:56.760 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 2>He's bombing, so ends up saying like whatever it is,

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 2>like you know, up the Irish or something like that,

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 2>and then there's a riot and they completely destroy It's

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 2>a it's a very funny bit about but it's a

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>guy panicking because he's but yeah, the whole thing turns

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 2>on a dime.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do, like, if you're doing a bit

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.360
<v Speaker 1>about religion, I look, I'm making the assumption.

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Tell me if I'm wrong.

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't assume that you're a person that's hugely attracted

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>to organized religion. I suspect you have a more skeptical

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>take on it. Yes, is it? Is it something in

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 1>your own life that I mean, you know you if

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:39.360
<v Speaker 1>if you're you're you must be nearly sixty, now are

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>you I'm sixty.

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Have you started to do that thing where you get

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>a little more, a little easier on atheism and stuff

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>as you start to hear the uh the reaper approacheth Oh.

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 2>No, wait, what do you mean you either you mean

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 2>start of all my mortality? I mean, I'm definitely aware

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>of my mortality in a way that I never was. Yeah,

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 2>me too, man, and you know, not in a scary way,

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 2>but just a great example of this is for I'm

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.959
<v Speaker 2>going to say twenty plus years, I have been saying,

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I really want to climb matcha Piacho.

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I want to hike the Inca trail and climb out

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 2>to Piachu. And I've been saying this for a long

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 2>long time. And I was a year and a half

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 2>ago less than actually I said it. I was in

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 2>a vacation with my family and some other families that

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 2>get together for a week in the Caribbean, and we

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 2>read this big house and there's tons of kids and

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. And I was sitting in this beautiful ocean, placid,

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 2>lovely perfect weather, ribs ribs on the beach and rum

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 2>runners right there, and this is I think We've done this,

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, for our fourth time maybe, and I

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>was like, this is very nice, but this is bullshit.

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 2>This is easy. It's nice, and I want to climb

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 2>mych peach. I'm definitely going to do that. That's harder

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 2>and more of a challenge. And at that moment I

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, all right, fuck this, I'm going to do it.

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I'm going to do it. So cut

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>to a year later and Bob Owdenkirk and I went

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>and we hiked the in contrail, which is no joke,

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>and climbed too much of Piachu in the Andes Mountains.

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>And a big part of that, I mean ninety nine

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 2>percent of it was I don't know how much longer

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I can do this physically. You know, I have orthotics,

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I've got arthritis into I mean, I've got broken bones

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 2>that didn't heal right, that prevent you know, I just

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 2>did I just didn't take care of them. And yeah,

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>and now I'm kind of paying the price. And and

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know, you know, truly, I don't know.

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Three years maybe, so we did it, and that's a

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 2>good example. I guess that's a positive result of going. Yeah,

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much longer. I just I joined

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 2>the gym and I started working out and doing more

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 2>upper body stuff because which I hate. I hate, I

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 2>hate own the gym, but because I my metabolism has

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 2>changed dramatically. And I read this thing about and Bob

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>was telling me, like, you at you know, like late fifties.

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 2>From then on, you will lose your upper body strength

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 2>very rapidly, and you need to keep on top of that.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>And I've got a seven year old and I want

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 2>to be able to do everything I can with her,

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 2>So you.

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, I feel exactly I have to do the

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>same thing. I feel like when I was about twenty five,

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I turned for A and I stayed for A until

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>about eighteen months ago. And now I'm in my sixties,

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the fuck happened? Like it's just it's noticeable,

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I have to do all that upsy downs's in

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the morning that pushed me, pill used and the and

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>all that. I don't go to a gym because I

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I fucking hate gems. I'll tell you the only reason

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I do.

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 2>And I have the same philosophy. I don't need to go.

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I know that I don't. It's a, Uh, it's money

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 2>that I could spend somewhere else, and I can do

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>all these things by myself. But the reason I got

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>a gym membership and we'll sign up for workouts is

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 2>because I'm very frugal or money conscious and I will

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 2>if I pay for it, I'm going to do it.

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm serious, and that makes me go to the gym.

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Whatever you have to do to motivate yourself, and that's yeah,

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 2>that's it. I did this thing where I was on

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Instagram for a while. Do you do the social media?

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I have a presence, but I'm not on it. I

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 2>don't have the apps or I don't go Twitter saying

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 2>that as well, but I had.

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>There was a titan there when I was on it,

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>and I was looking at it as well as as

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like posting things like yeah, I'm on tour here or

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>see the podcast there and all that. I was actually

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 1>looking at it and there was endless I guess. You know,

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you look at one thing and then the void looks

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>into you and it sees what you like and it

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>starts giving you more of that thing.

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I think that's how it was due they I'm sorry

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 2>to interrupt and get back to this but they the

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>phone will listen to you, right, Like if I talk

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 2>about beef jerkey and I just did, my phone's right here,

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 2>here is right. If I'm gonna say beef turkey to

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>you two more times, beef turkey, beef turkey, I will

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>start getting ads for beef jerkey. Fucking beef turkey. That's weird,

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 2>just as my phone heard me. Yeah, well, I don't want.

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get adverts for beef jerky. And

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>on my phone's on too. I'm yep, I just got

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 2>one for beef jerky. But the but the thing is

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 2>is that which which beef turkey? It looks like it's

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 2>a terryaki beef jerkey. I don't mind the Yeah, that

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 2>is the good stuff. That's good. Listen.

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>So I go on the Instagram and I'm looking at

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>this is what actually.

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Finally I said, okay, that's enough.

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I found a bunch of exercises apparently the soccer player

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Ronaldo justin Ronaldo does and I go, all right, I'll

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>do that because he's in good shape.

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going to look like that.

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like he's like one of the greatest athletes

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>in the world, and he's like twenty five or twenty

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>nine or something, and it's like, I'm sixty two and

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I've eaten a lot of fries. There's no way I

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>can I can do that. And then so I started

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>doing it, and actually it's made a difference. I do

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>these exercises in the morning. But what the reason I

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>got off the social media thing is because I was

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>looking at exercise things like ways to improve your dad

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>bod and all that kind of stuff. This guy came up,

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>this creamy motherfucker. He was like this guy in a

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>tanny and I heard you describe it. Actually one of

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>these twenty three scaredoo mustache. That's you're lying, right. He

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>is one of those, and he's all buffed up. And

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>he said, you're going to be fat and flabby all

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>your life unless you do these three things.

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Fuck. I said like fuck you yeah and deleted the app. Man.

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I've never been back, and I don't know why it

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>made me so angry. I just feel like I don't

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>like being played like that. And I feel like social

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>media just fucking plays you, you know it.

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>That's how it's designed. I mean, that's how they make

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 2>their money, I know, you know.

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like the real quandary is about it, like,

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you're on tour, so you're doing you know, I know

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you love me very much and you want to.

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Talk to me for an hour.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>But the reality of it is, you're on tour and

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you got to you know, you got to get the

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>news out there.

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 2>You're on tour.

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you do that for I do the same thing.

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's when they say when you have to create

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>content for Mark Zuckerberger elon Musk, you have to do

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>little shows for nothing for them so that you can

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>be in the business you're in. I don't know, man,

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>it kind of seems a little weird to me. I

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>don't see it that way.

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I see it as a mutual beneficial I don't like

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not easy about it. I don't engage in it.

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't do these things. I don't have a whole

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of I don't put a lot of value in

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 2>these little sixty second things. Most you know, most of

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 2>these things people do. There's TikTok things and whatever. But

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>it clearly is benefiting people. I mean, I'm sure, I'm

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say I'm struggling to sell tickets,

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not selling out like I used to. I

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 2>used to sell it very relatively quickly. And I still

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>have to like really push stuff, really push stuff. And

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I've been doing you know, been in the business for

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 2>what forty almost work for whatever it is years. And

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 2>but there's some kids I say that as an old person,

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>so not kid kids, but you know in their twenties, right,

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 2>who are selling out arenas who just you know, they

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>did tiktoks and they did crowd work and all that stuff.

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't begrudge. I don't like it, but

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's the way the business has gone. But

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 2>they worked, they worked it, they found this thing, and

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't I don't think they're particularly I

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 2>mean some of them are, but I don't think they're

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 2>particularly good comedians. But people don't give a shit.

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Well I think also the thing is that you know,

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you when you talk about like being in the business

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>for four years, which I guess I have to, I

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>mean that you do it for a long time, you

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>start to realize and I have noticed that you said

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>it yourself. You know, you're not selling tickets like you

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 1>did a while back, and you have to work hard

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>to do it. But you know, one TV show thing happens,

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>one thing happens with you, and suddenly, like maybe you

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 1>get canceled or something, and then you sell a lot

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 1>more tickets, you know what I mean. It's like it's

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.359
<v Speaker 1>a kind of up and down thing. I think that

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I came into comedy through music and you know, being

0:35:58.600 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>in bands and stuff.

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 2>And I always think it's kind of like there was

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 2>always been the Beatles, right, was that you were in

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 2>the Beatles? That's right. I was in the Beatles early on, though,

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 2>very very early on. But back when they were the

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Silver the Silver.

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Beatles, that's right, right, and it was still it was

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>ee where the B E E.

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>They changed it to E A after I left, Yeah,

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 2>because an actual Beatles sued. Yeah, the actual Beatles were like, no,

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 2>you can't do that. But I know, I remember even

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 2>by then, those bands like the Base City Rollers and

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 2>those bands like the Rolling Stones. At a certain point

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 2>in their career, the Base Heity Rollers were selling more

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 2>records than.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.240
<v Speaker 1>The Rolling Stones for a minute, right, you know. Yeah,

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 1>And and I don't think it went that way the

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>whole I look, I haven't followed the career of.

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Well the They were also an educational band because they

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 2>helped you spell Saturday night, you know, and that's a

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 2>thing that kids needed. So they became really popular in

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 2>grade school, like how do we spell Saturday? Spell Saturday?

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 2>And listen? And I think were you into the bass

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>that Rollers?

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Was that?

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 2>The was that the right? I knew that song. I

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 2>knew that song. And they all had the scarves and

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>the you know, Scottish that's why they were. They were

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 2>from they were from Edinburgh. You should do. And I'm

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 2>keenly aware of why you mentioned all the possible bands

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 2>to mention you mentioned bas well. Look, I met, I was.

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I was toyed with the idea of Huba Stank or

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the bass that Rollers.

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. I don't know. Huba Stinker a great.

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Band for comedy reference because they've got that hard k

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>at the end and the ou on the way to

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 1>the hard sha. And also it's one of these names

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 1>that you forget and then you remember right away when

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>somebody says that, you go, oh, yeah, I remember that.

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Really that was They were part of that like nineties

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 2>so cow ye, weren't they like the so cal kind

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 2>of sca revive or adjacent to that Terribles There was

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 2>that era there for like three or four years where

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 2>it's like the new skuf so calm. Yeah.

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 1>The Scott the Scott thing was was a revival even

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 1>when it was Scott back when they were doing like

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Scott was Madness Senties. Right, It's like a Selector, Yeah,

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the Selector that was all arrival and he wasn't the.

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Bad Manners and yeah, Bad Manners, Madnesness Selector.

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>But there was that great band, the Special Specials. Yeah,

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>they were a great band. It's funny because I think

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>of you. Maybe this is why I think of you

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>as being too cold, because I think of you as

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>somehow being part of a more kind of nightclubby undergroundy

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>music type comedy.

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.959
<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure. Yeah, that was in part and great

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 2>part because I was in Atlanta in the in the

0:38:56.360 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 2>early mid eighties and then uh moved to Boston in

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 2>eighty like eighty four, I want to say, a beginning

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 2>of eighty four and then LA. I was in Boston

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 2>until I was in la in ninety two, I think.

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 2>But all of those scenes were thriving right when I

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 2>was there. Right, So Atlanta had this really cool.

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Artsy So you were saying they were thriving because you

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>were there, Hey.

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm just saying I'm not saying nothing right. You know,

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 2>it looked at the commonality. It was the commonality. Look

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.399
<v Speaker 2>what happened. Look what happened. I feel the same way

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 2>about you know.

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I was in sitcoms and then when I left the

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Drew carry show set cooms just died. And then when

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I when I left Late Night, late nights over, nobody

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>is sure. So I feel like I'm in a similar

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>position the but you were correct me if I'm wrong,

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I have got in my head that you were at

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Emerson or something right that you were in.

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I could that you can. For just for a very brief,

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 2>very brief time, I went to Boston to go to Emerson,

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 2>dropped out very quickly, stayed there because the comedy scene

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 2>was amazing, right, and it was so is during the

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 2>comedy boom. And so I was the recipient of a

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 2>lot of luck in that the comedy boom was happening,

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 2>and they just had everywhere there were shows Chinese restaurants

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 2>and bowling alleys and you know, nightclub whatever. There was

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 2>a show every country, western bars, so they had to

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 2>fill those slots.

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's like that no as well, I

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's back. I think there's it's everywhere. Yeah,

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like, like, but why I don't understand. And I've

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>said this a few times on this podcast. I came

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 1>to comedy because I was like I failed to other

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff and then and so it was kind of like

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 1>being a real turn for me.

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I like, I didn't. I didn't. That is the perfect

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 2>You could not pick a better job than where people.

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's going, I want to be real. Nobody wants to

0:40:59.360 --> 0:40:59.879
<v Speaker 2>be a real.

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>You fucking you just start your life going, you know,

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:03.720
<v Speaker 1>what do you want to be when you leave school?

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at realtor. Nobody wants to be a fucking realtor.

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 2>It's very true. And that's that's.

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 1>What I felt like, particularly with doing Late Night, I

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, I didn't want to do this, but they

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 1>offered it to me and it's decent money, and I

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of I still And this is one of the

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 1>things I struggled with with aging, is that I don't

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like I found my thing yet.

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's interesting.

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>And do you feel like you know you're because I

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:34.879
<v Speaker 1>meet people and maybe you're one of them. They're like, no,

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I want like I feel like I don't know Jerry Seinfeld,

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like fourteen year old Jerry Seinfeld is

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>probably like, I know what I want to be and

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>just went ahead and did it.

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Early on, I knew that I wanted to be in

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 2>comedy or film or creating something in that world. And

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 2>then right at that kind of at that same time

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 2>I got stand up was like something. I'm like, I'm

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna do stand up, and I you know, part of

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 2>it was I, uh, where I live sucked and I

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 2>was miserable, and and comedy was the kind of you know,

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 2>you when you meet other nerdy kids who are in

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 2>a comedy, like that's your pack, you know, that's your

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Some people are in gaming, some kids are in the

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 2>D and D, some kids are you know whatever. Me

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 2>and my friends were in the comedy and we you know,

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 2>and uh, and I knew it was it was gonna.

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do stand up. Not that I was

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 2>always going to do stand up, but I knew that

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do it, and from a pretty early age.

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 1>It's an interesting thing. I've talked a lot about this

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>as well, that stand ups good ones, uh, which you

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>are the Oh, it's just a fact I'm not you know,

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>but stand ups of a particular type, and I feel

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>you have it. It was my wife who said this,

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>they all they all have the same mother, you all

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 1>have the same mother. And I was like, oh yeah,

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and she went, yeah, cold with bad boundaries. I was like,

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 1>cold with boundaries. I think about my own mother, and

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I went, well, that kind of that's I wouldn't say

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that's true. My mom's not cold. I mean, she's an

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 1>odd lady. She's very.

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Not proactively antisocial, but she's not a social person at all, right,

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 2>and is very bookish. We'll just read so, I mean

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the last fifteen years. It's like she's got her kindle.

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 2>She'll read. She reads a voracious reader, So read, read, read,

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 2>or play candy Crush type things, and that's a lot

0:43:54.880 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 2>of what she does. I might be your mom different.

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't play Candy Cross anymore. I play Royal Match,

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of like.

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I do too. Oh my god, my shit. Yeah, I

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 2>am so addicted in an embarrassing way.

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 1>I can because I can tell you right now with Levlomo.

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Let's yeah, tell you that's so wild. And also this

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I was I play this Cordal Mortal. No, I haven't, man, Okay,

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I am Oh gosh, I can't tell you.

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you're in the middle of a game. Yeah, yeah,

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly my problem. I'm round about four five hundred

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>something like that.

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that sounds about I don't know if I'm quite

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 2>at that level, but I'm certainly close to it. But

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 2>it's genius how you're on a timer sometimes. And that's

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 2>why I stopped my game because oh, if I'm going

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 2>to get if they're going to give me the double

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 2>points or the two time multiplier, I can't finish this

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.839
<v Speaker 2>because that's for fifteen minutes. I need that in order

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 2>to collect enough. They keep you whatever royal thing coins,

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 2>because then the coins I can use you used to

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 2>get the bonus thing those things. Yeah, well, here's the thing.

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 2>It's genius.

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I used it as mathadone to get off of social media, because.

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well same here, same here, same here, exactly, I've

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:28.280
<v Speaker 2>traded one. It's sort of like, you know, the idea

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 2>of I was an alcoholic, but now I'm addicted to

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 2>alcoholics anonymous and you know, or Christ. Now I found

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Christ right, And so you're saying I treated you're saying

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Royal Match is the same as Christ. I just want

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 2>to make sure I've got you quoted. No, I'm not. No,

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying the same as I'm more Taoist. So i'd say, well,

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the Dawist and Edity Budotists. I

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I traded in the screen time that

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, spending on Twitter on Instagram that

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 2>made me feel feel bad. This doesn't make me feel bad.

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of fun and it just makes me feel relaxing. Yeah,

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 2>and it's uh and I think that's it. It's it's harmless.

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Well because what I well, I got you know, I

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.720
<v Speaker 1>told you about that creamy guy with a mustache telling

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>me how I was going to be out of shape

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 1>my whole life. And then the just flicking through things

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and you get like, because it's fishing to try and

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>see what you want, you'll get horrible image of a murder,

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>people fighting in a store, or you know, it's like

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody just text you or me.

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I think that's you. Oh wait, it's Dug. It's s Dug.

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I think what they're saying is that we're now getting

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 1>into time.

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:42.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wind it up, wrap it up all right, chatterbox,

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 2>put it, put a zip on it.

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, hold on, is just a second? Hold on, just

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.800
<v Speaker 1>a hold on, mister, take control?

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 2>What about?

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I want you to talk to me a little bit

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 1>about the tour, because not only do I want to

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 1>plug it, but I want to know what you're doing.

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>So when you go out, you don't necessarily go out

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and say I need to be and then leave the

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:05.919
<v Speaker 1>stage and I have someone else do the first five minutes.

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 2>It could happen doing it. Oh, it would not happen

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 2>in the first five minutes, right, Okay, I will go

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 2>to the bathroom before I'll hold the fucking show before. No,

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about if it's you know. Also, sometimes I'm

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm very uh in a in a good way. I

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:26.280
<v Speaker 2>can be self indulgent and and I'm happy to stay

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 2>up there. I'll stay up there for a long time.

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 2>And it back in the you know, early days, when

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I was doing music venues and I'd have a band

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 2>open up for me, and it was a big, crazy,

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:39.320
<v Speaker 2>drunken night. It was really fun. And I mean I

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 2>would do hours and in fact, I I would just

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of go until I had to go to the

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 2>bathroom and I'd say, you know, it's been two hours.

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 2>I got to go but I'm not kidding either, you know.

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 2>But and then you know, I'm drinking while I'm doing

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 2>the show, And so.

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 1>What I'm getting is that it's not it's not disciplined

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 1>is the wrong word, but it's not it's not structured

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>in a very formal way.

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Then how you do it? No, that's that that is

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 2>not correct. It is definitely structured. But I play within

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 2>that structure. I couldn't. I don't go I'm not one

0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 2>of those guys. I'm not gifted like guy who can

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:18.280
<v Speaker 2>just riff for you know, an hour and a half.

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing bits. These are bits I've worked on, and uh,

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've done a bunch at this point, getting

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 2>ready for the tour and working on the bits and

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 2>either you know, editing them down or flushing them out

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 2>or just dropping them. I have the structure, I know,

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the sequencing, which is one of the hardest parts of

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 2>putting a set together for me, at least. I have

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 2>all these disparate ideas and it's like this doesn't go here,

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:45.399
<v Speaker 2>This should would be better here at Vienna, this would

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<v Speaker 2>be better. This following this with this is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, clunky and whatever. And then when I'm out

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<v Speaker 2>on the road because of the nature of how I

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and I'm always I'm mean, I will acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>whatever is happening in front of me. If we if

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody's at the bar and some glass brain, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>thing happens, if.

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<v Speaker 1>The security guard says fuck it, I quit and storms up, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't just ignore it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't ignore that stuff, especially if everyone's hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>It it's just me and you got to go through it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it's a if it's a there's a disturbance

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever the thing is, we'll address it. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>easily mind for material. It's fun. It makes the show

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<v Speaker 2>kind of unique. It's fun for me to do. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose he's just doing joke joke, joke, joke, choke, choke,

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<v Speaker 2>choke joke, good night. Do you have a what's your

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<v Speaker 2>phone policy? With? Oh? Absolutely, you know, signs and announcements,

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<v Speaker 2>no phones, there's no excuse you pull out your phone.

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<v Speaker 2>You can go to the lobby and use your phone

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<v Speaker 2>if you have to call a babysit or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 2>you pull out your phone security, I'm sorry, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to leave. And I've been doing that for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, and almost nobody disrespects it. I mean everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people are happy with that. They're like, good, but

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<v Speaker 2>the fucking phone's away. I feel the same way because

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<v Speaker 2>I heard it.

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<v Speaker 1>But guys putting phones and bags and all that, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck it, it doesn't matter, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that once on this little mini tour and

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<v Speaker 2>it was not It was a pain in the ass.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't worth it. It was annoying to people. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize they had to come and walk them individually

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<v Speaker 2>and all that shit. And I was like, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>my my audience is pretty great and they're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>smart and respectful. And I'm telling you, when there's like

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<v Speaker 2>a no phone policy, people are like, good, yes, thank you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, to have an experience which isn't digital is

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, is a fucking relief. However, this experience was

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<v Speaker 1>being gorgeous and digital and that was a beautiful setting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fucking my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's good because the tour.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a great time, especially when you're doing Glasgow

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<v Speaker 1>and Edinburgh. In Glasgow, my tip is bring up the

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<v Speaker 1>Religious Wars of sixteen ninety. That's always I have a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minute chunk on that. All right, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>great time with that. Maybe we're a crash helmet. It's

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<v Speaker 1>lovely to talk to you, David. Thanks very much indeed

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<v Speaker 1>for doing this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely thank you.