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Speaker 5: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 5: It is Wednesday, August sixteenth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 5: episode number eighteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The

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Speaker 5: Break with live fromox in Art, California. It is our

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Speaker 5: final day on the show.

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Speaker 7: Here.

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Speaker 5: We have a couple more days of practice. Cowboys will

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Speaker 5: have a full practice today. Tomorrow, they'll have a walk through. Friday,

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Speaker 5: we get on a plane head to Seattle. We play

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Speaker 5: a game on Saturday night, and we'll be heading back

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Speaker 5: and get back to Dallas at six am on Sunday morning.

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Speaker 5: And Monday we'll start all over again. Welcome to the season, guys.

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Speaker 5: We're doing it all right. Let's uh, let's jump in

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Speaker 5: this today. What we're gonna do is we're gonna do

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Speaker 5: a little bit of a rap on training camp.

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Speaker 2: What's wrong?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, you always.

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Speaker 5: But uh, no, I wanted to do a camp rap.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about some different topics. I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 5: some different questions to you guys and get some opinions. Uh,

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Speaker 5: after seeing these weeks of training camp and all the

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Speaker 5: practices that we've seen, get kind of a bigger picture

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Speaker 5: look from you guys on what you think of this

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Speaker 5: team and some of the players on this team heading

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Speaker 5: into the final two preseason games and then obviously heading

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Speaker 5: into the season. Let's start first with though we have

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Speaker 5: not talked about the Zach and Martin deal last time

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Speaker 5: we were on the air, Zach Martin was not in

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Speaker 5: the at practice yet. What was the deal? First of all,

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Speaker 5: what were the terms of the deal? And then we'll

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Speaker 5: talk a little bit about what you guys.

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Speaker 2: Think of that. So it more or less breaks down.

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Speaker 8: He gets an eight million dollar raise over the next

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Speaker 8: two seasons minus the fine state.

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Speaker 5: Million per or eight million total total.

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Speaker 8: So minus the fees that approached one million dollars, he

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Speaker 8: netted roughly seven million dollars. But the breakdown goes as followed,

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Speaker 8: So it's two years, thirty six point nine roundup nine

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Speaker 8: million dollars. And keep in mind this is after the restructure,

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Speaker 8: So he already had eleven point eight million of his

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Speaker 8: getting roughly thirty six million dollars in guaranteed money over

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Speaker 8: the next two years. But the key to remember is

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Speaker 8: not only is he getting that guaranteed, but inclusive of

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Speaker 8: that is an overall eight million dollar paybump. So he

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Speaker 8: didn't set the market. And I said before, I was

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Speaker 8: of the belief that Zach Martin was not trying to

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Speaker 8: his value to the team. So they found a sweet spot.

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Speaker 8: He rich, He rich rich, But you can be rich

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Speaker 8: rich when you're great great.

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Speaker 5: So there you go, Nick, Was this a good deal?

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Speaker 5: Good deal for the Cowboys?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, I was thinking about this.

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Speaker 7: They didn't go into training camp thinking that this was

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Speaker 5: Texas, are in Californa, Texas.

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Speaker 2: Big difference.

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Speaker 7: They have it here in Texas. Right, you're Texas AC.

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Speaker 7: You might be budgeting different things that you need. I

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Speaker 7: don't want to buy this. I'm gonna get this. I

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Speaker 7: When like today, like now, like can he come now

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Speaker 7: Zach Martin not being here, it changes the priority of everything.

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Speaker 7: When he did that, good move by him, good leverage,

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Speaker 8: I just perfect analogy because I'm sitting here thinking about

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Speaker 2: You gotta wonder if people are gonna start surviving.

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Speaker 7: Right, He's taking this to another level to go home.

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Speaker 2: Now, you gotta wonder if people are gonna start surviving.

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Speaker 7: So it sounds like we prepped this thing, but we

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Speaker 7: really didn't. He just he just took the ball. I

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Speaker 8: But also kudos to Jerry Jones for pulling the full

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Speaker 8: and when the Cowboys when we went back to Dallas

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Speaker 8: they got in the room and you know what they say,

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Speaker 8: Jones sat down, face to face, good conversation, and everything

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Speaker 7: So you don't think the game had anything to do

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Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, Again, the temperatar starts going up, the thermostat

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Speaker 8: But to your point, I think if there wasn't a

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Speaker 7: I love what Zach said to in this press conference,

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Speaker 7: Jerry's comments, like, did you ever hear any of those?

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Speaker 7: And he goes, yeah, you know I did, and he laughed,

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Speaker 7: all all bets are off at that point. So, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I was a little disappointed by this move because this

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Speaker 5: That, I don't know, maybe it's not it's true, it

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Speaker 7: William is gonna come help it out. William go get

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Speaker 2: There we go.

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Speaker 7: But either way, sorry, we're distractable players around here.

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Speaker 5: But I actually, I actually I love that he said

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Speaker 5: If you're going to be a part of it, though,

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Speaker 5: you know he will he will negotiate really hard, and

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Speaker 5: he will say things as a part of the negotiation

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Speaker 5: that kind of leads you down a path media. But whenever,

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Speaker 5: like you said, whenever it gets to a point where okay,

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Speaker 5: we got to ahead and get this deal done, he'll

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Speaker 5: and there is no doubt when they leave that meeting,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: And so I think Jerry has a good way of

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Speaker 5: the business game and that's.

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Speaker 2: What we got.

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Speaker 5: It's so different to being on the field, Like while

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Speaker 5: If those players out there, they can be friends off

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Speaker 5: So I think it's the same thing in business.

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Speaker 2: Jerry did the same thing with DeMarcus Lawrence. It's the

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Speaker 8: It was playing horrorball, playing horrorball, leveraging, leveraging, but when

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Speaker 7: A big part of that too, is the fact that

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Speaker 7: what Zach Martin did. He dug in. He continued to

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Speaker 7: been easy to be like, all right, maybe you know

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Speaker 7: to go, but it was to the point where who.

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Speaker 2: Blink, nobody wanted to find out.

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Speaker 7: No, no, this is good. So you know what you

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Speaker 7: didn't You didn't. They didn't wake up thinking the AC

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Speaker 7: to fix it immediately. That's one of those things just

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Speaker 7: that goes right to the top and they and they

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Speaker 5: So you guys mentioned that, you know, could could this

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Speaker 5: let's let's talk about like where this leaves the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: from an offensive line perspective, because I think as we

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Speaker 5: watched practice out here, I'll speak for myself, there were

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Speaker 5: Zach Martin here though, now you've got to start an

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Speaker 5: had last year when you didn't have injury. Where are

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean for me, I just the the backup

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Speaker 2: Terrence Steel is back.

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Speaker 7: that the fact that Cooks can't come in here willing

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Speaker 7: to do that, showing him how to be a pro,

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Speaker 7: little things like that, just from the taking notes parts

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Speaker 7: of just taking into the field. Gilmore has been great,

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Speaker 7: but the fact that he's elevated another guy like that,

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Speaker 7: and now, who's to say that he hasn't done Gilmore

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Speaker 7: hasn't done that for Bland. I don't know that. But

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Speaker 7: I'm just gonna say that it's a two for one

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Speaker 7: with Cooks.

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Speaker 5: I will say real quick before you jump in that

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Speaker 5: catch that Toba made yesterday.

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Speaker 8: Smooth criminals in the end zone, smooth criminal and you

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Speaker 8: are you wow?

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Speaker 5: And I don't know even on video, I don't know

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Speaker 5: if it came across as great as the catch really

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Speaker 5: was in person. It seemed like he held that for

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Speaker 5: like he came down and stuck balance and then comes

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Speaker 5: out like.

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Speaker 7: It was just it was with a great video they

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Speaker 7: got will have one too, well, Okay, sorry I saw

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Speaker 7: Kyle with one. It got ripped all.

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Speaker 8: I actually just missed out on having that video folks,

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Speaker 8: because I was I was looking. We were talking for

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Speaker 8: some logistics for boss Man over here, so he kind

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Speaker 8: of costs me footage. But wonderful point. When it comes

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Speaker 8: to Brandon Cooks, it's absolutely hands down Brandon Cooks. And

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Speaker 8: again that's not to say Stefan Gilmore has not elevated

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Speaker 8: the play of Trevon Diggs Deron Bland, but when you

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Speaker 8: do it relative to each other, Trevon Diggs and Deron

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Speaker 8: Bland have already proven that they can take the ball away,

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Speaker 8: be lead ballhawks, but then when you flip it to

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Speaker 8: the offensive side of the ball. Jayleen Tobert is a

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Speaker 8: young guy who had a lot to come in and

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Speaker 8: prove this camp. So I give a ton of credit

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Speaker 8: to Jayleen Tobert for looking in the mirror, looking inside himself,

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Speaker 8: because that was the first The main problem was self confidence.

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Speaker 8: He got the self confidence up, he got into his notebook,

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Speaker 8: a lot deeper. But he also attached himself to Brandon

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Speaker 8: cook which is something I was hoping he would do

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Speaker 8: when Cook's when the trade landed, and he did. So

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Speaker 8: Cooks is elevating guys like Jalen Tobert, and we're not

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Speaker 8: going to pretend he's not elevating guys like Michael Gallup,

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Speaker 8: and we see him elevating Ceede Lamb even if it's well,

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Speaker 8: not even if it's But in addition to locker room

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Speaker 8: and those two guys sharing football like you, it's the

484
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Speaker 8: fact that whenever Brandon Cooks makes a play, you look

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Speaker 8: at Ceede Lamb and you can see him saying, Okay,

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Speaker 8: my turn.

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Speaker 2: I will not be outdone.

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Speaker 8: So you know the tide is rising much faster on

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Speaker 8: the offensive side of the ball in the wide receiver

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Speaker 8: room because of Brandon Cook's And then if you look

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Speaker 8: at just his play itself, everything else, notwithstanding he's basically

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Speaker 8: owned training cap. Whenever he's targeted, it's a big play,

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Speaker 8: it seems every other time, if not every time. So

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Speaker 8: for me, it's Brandon Cooks. But Stefan Gilmore obviously goes

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Speaker 8: without saying he will have equal impact as Brandon Cooks

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Speaker 8: when the season comes along.

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Speaker 7: There was a play yesterday in practice where I believe

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Speaker 7: Ferguson and Lamb and Gallop all just basically went vertical,

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Speaker 7: just took it from like the red zone, took it

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Speaker 7: into the end zone and that kind of waited, weighted

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Speaker 7: and crossing underneath was Cook's and he dumped it off

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Speaker 7: the Cooks There was really nobody there for a while.

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Speaker 7: He got to probably about the five yard line. And

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Speaker 7: to me, that is what I always envisioned the West

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Speaker 7: Coast offense being, just you spread everybody out, everyone going deep.

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Speaker 7: Then you got someone slicing it underneath. And Dak loves

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Speaker 7: that kind of stuff. And what quarterback doesn't loves a quick,

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Speaker 7: easy throw where you got guys that can go to run. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: so it and that's what's so great about Cooks. He's

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Speaker 7: an underneath possession guy with the ability to go deep.

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Speaker 7: That right there is a dangerous weapon. And if he's

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Speaker 7: not your you know he's your second or third best guy.

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Speaker 7: That's that's something That's something.

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Speaker 5: I actually think as I watched him play out here,

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Speaker 5: I actually wonder to myself if Brandon Cooks will lead

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Speaker 5: this team in receptions and Lamb and yards because I

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Speaker 5: do think there will be a lot of opportunity for

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Speaker 5: Cooks to get some of those underneath throws, and I

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Speaker 5: think the volume will be there with him, maybe in

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Speaker 5: a way that it isn't even there with with CD.

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Speaker 5: But it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

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Speaker 8: I want it be fun to watch that unfold Lamb

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Speaker 8: versus Cook's statistical situation play out over the course of

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Speaker 8: the season, because they're both obviously going to get a

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Speaker 8: ton of targets, but who finish it with more targets?

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Speaker 8: Who finishes with more yards in the end? The Cowboys

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Speaker 8: we either way.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they literally might have three receivers again that

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Speaker 5: they didn't they do this a few years ago, with

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Speaker 5: three receivers over a thousand yards. They might be closely.

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Speaker 7: That's one hundred and seven catches for CD. That's a

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Speaker 7: that's a big change right there. If Cooks is getting

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Speaker 7: more than that, I'd have a hard time thinking that

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Speaker 7: that would happen, because I do think they're gonna target

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Speaker 7: CD on bubble screens and things like that.

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Speaker 5: But that was also one hundred and seven when the

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Speaker 5: receiving core was not near as good as it.

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Speaker 2: Is this year, right which is.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna sound weird to say, but I think what

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Speaker 8: would threaten the possibility of having three one thousand yard receivers.

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Speaker 8: And we see Michael Gallup already taking that step and

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Speaker 8: bouncing back and getting back to form. But we we

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Speaker 8: just mentioned it Jalen Tobart. If Jalen Tobart continues to

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Speaker 8: make this leap, then he's gonna get targets as well.

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Speaker 8: But those targets do have to you know, siphon from somewhere,

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Speaker 8: so they'll probably come over from Michael Gallup's potential targets.

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Speaker 8: So then you probably have CD Lamb at over one thousand,

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Speaker 8: Cooks at over one thousand, maybe Gallop at like seven hundred.

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Speaker 8: If Tobert gets you know, three to four hundred. So

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Speaker 8: either way, there's no shortage.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna get five hundred. To me, I think I.

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Speaker 5: Actually that goes hurt. Oh no, that actually goes to

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Speaker 5: my next question. That actually my next question.

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Speaker 8: At eight hundred, I think he steps. Saying I think

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Speaker 8: he steps would shock me. I think he steps in

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Speaker 8: and immediately replaces the production loss.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so here's the question, which second year player is

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Speaker 5: more prime for breakout season between jal and Tolbert, Jake

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Speaker 5: Ferguson or Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 7: And you could have work. You could have used three

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Speaker 7: more guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know because the moan that's true, but I

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Speaker 5: want the offensive guys. Okay, So Tyler, Tyler, Jalen, Tolbert

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Speaker 5: or Jake Ferguson.

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Speaker 7: I would say, I would say Tyler Smith, I believe

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Speaker 7: that he's at his home at left guard, and I

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Speaker 7: will I'm.

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Speaker 5: Probably going to stay there.

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Speaker 7: I'm I'm on my own little eyeing that I just

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Speaker 7: feel that way. I think he probably won't because that's

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Speaker 7: that's what happens. You have to justify first round picks

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Speaker 7: and all that stuff. But I'm telling you from the

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Speaker 7: strength standpoint, I think he is going to be an

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Speaker 7: outstanding left guard. That's where I would keep him.

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Speaker 5: But you know, and we got the tight end whisper

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Speaker 5: walking right by, Dad as we're about to talk about

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Speaker 5: Jake Ferguson. We got the tight end whisper walking by, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to please him witness question. Here you go.

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Speaker 8: Look, Jake Ferguson is the one who makes the biggest

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Speaker 8: leap of those three. And that's not to say that

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Speaker 8: because we just said Jayalen Tobrid is making the leap,

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Speaker 8: and I think it goes without saying that after seeing

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Speaker 8: what Tyler Smith was able to do as a rookie

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Speaker 8: in short order as far as not having any left

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Speaker 8: tackle reps, being thrown out there and just performing, I

586
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Speaker 8: think he's going to be an absolute force and he's

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Speaker 8: getting refined, so he's going to everything Nick even said

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Speaker 8: is right on par.

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Speaker 2: He's going to have a He's going to be a gamer.

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Speaker 8: Jake Ferguson, though, he's being given a throne at a

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Speaker 8: position that Dak Prescott loves to utilize as a security

592
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Speaker 8: like Dalton Schultz over the past couple of seasons, was

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Speaker 8: Dak Prescott's primary target. If you're gonna look at the numbers,

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Speaker 8: darn Schultz is not there. So does that mean that

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Speaker 8: Dak Prescott's going to pass less to tight ends to

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Speaker 8: the point where they're gonna be negligible. Absolutely not. I

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Speaker 8: think Jake Ferguson steps right in. You saw it against

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Speaker 8: the Jaguars. He's ready to be that guy, and he

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Speaker 8: has guys behind him pushing him to be that guy.

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Speaker 8: Because John Smith, John Stevens Junior, he's a talented guy.

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Speaker 8: Hindershot talented guy. And oh, by the way, they used

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Speaker 8: the second round pick on Luke schoon May.

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Speaker 5: That become a wasted pick? I shouldn't know. Does that

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Speaker 5: become a situation where the Cowboys should have maybe gone

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Speaker 5: with another position in the second round because Jake Ferguson

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Speaker 5: looks like he may be ready to be the guy if.

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Speaker 7: Ferguson gets eight hundred yards like he's suggesting, or even

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Speaker 7: in the reigne of six to seven. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 7: you could make that argument. You can definitely make that argument,

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Speaker 7: but you know, you have to cover your yourself. And

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Speaker 7: we see, you know, two three tight ends. I mean

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Speaker 7: that they both might play a lot. You know, hnder

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Speaker 7: Shot is a guy that might get sort of squeezed

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Speaker 7: out of this. I'm not saying off the roster, but

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Speaker 7: it may be out of the rotation.

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Speaker 2: My take on it is.

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Speaker 8: And the argument could certainly be made, particularly if Ferguson

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Speaker 8: does what I believe that he's going to do in

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Speaker 8: year two. But if if you go back at the

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Speaker 8: end of the season, if we look back retroactively and

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Speaker 8: we see that Schoonmaker has the second most targets on

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Speaker 8: the tight end unit the seconds, the second highest snap

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Speaker 8: count on the tight end unit. They know it's not

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Speaker 8: a waste to pick because that means he beat out

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Speaker 8: everybody but Jake Ferguson.

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Speaker 5: And they love twelve and twenty two persons as well.

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Speaker 8: Correct, which means he is really impacting the game often.

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Speaker 8: So if that happens to be the case, if that

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Speaker 8: turns out to be the case, then no, it's not

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Speaker 8: a waste to pick. But when you talk about the

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Speaker 8: pressure that the presence of Schoolmaker puts on Jake Ferguson

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Speaker 8: and hindershot being able to perform in on Stevens Junior,

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Speaker 8: he's having this an elite camp as far as young

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Speaker 8: guys are concerned that nobody saw coming. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 8: Jay Ferguson has all the fire, all the tools, all

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Speaker 8: the skills set, he has the mindset.

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Speaker 2: He's ready to go out there and do it.

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Speaker 5: All Right, We're gonna take our final break.

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Speaker 7: Would you their doctor?

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Speaker 7: Back to the break you know Derek. The Emmy Award

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Speaker 8: You know, Derek is so good that we can't see him,

695
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Speaker 8: kind of like Tony Pollard and practice that they that

696
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Speaker 8: those two guys from UH from FS one, we're out here.

697
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Speaker 7: I'm sure this isn't a camp holled out way through.

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Speaker 8: This is walking out at halftime and saying I on

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Speaker 8: a new contract right right, No, I will that takes it.

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Speaker 7: I will say this. I'll piggyback.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what was next on this list, but

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Speaker 7: since we talked about said Jerry flying in, if we

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Speaker 7: talked about the Deep Blues coming up. We did have

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Speaker 7: hally Fame last week this week close to the best,

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Speaker 7: really really good, really interesting night on nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 7: I know we talked about it a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 7: but the documentaries on the night that there was an

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Speaker 7: attack on Tom Landry or at least a threat on

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Speaker 7: Tom Landry's life, and what they had to do with

711
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Speaker 7: security wise to kind of get him off the field

712
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Speaker 7: and come back with a bulletproof best and interesting, interesting

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Speaker 7: story of that whole thing. So Haley Sutton and really

714
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Speaker 7: did a nice job with that. A lot of people,

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Speaker 7: Kevin Timmans working hard on that one. And then we

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Speaker 7: got two more coming that I've kind of been a

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Speaker 7: part of as well, two thousand and five Draft Class

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Speaker 7: and then also war stories too.

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Speaker 8: So in ladies and gentlemen, I mean, these these documentaries,

720
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Speaker 8: you really want to get in and glue yourself to.

721
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Speaker 8: I mean, for those of us behind the scenes who

722
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Speaker 8: are seeing, you know, all these good people Nick and

723
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Speaker 8: Haley and uh and Alex Lily and these folks that

724
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Speaker 8: are also involved, al Michaels on the.

725
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Speaker 7: Al Michael's in there with everybody.

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Speaker 2: I just you know, Nat, you kind of you kind.

727
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Speaker 7: Of jumped in on on this year with with worst stories.

728
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Speaker 2: I was, I wasn't gonna tip the hat just yet.

729
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Speaker 8: I won't tell you which one I am involved in

730
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Speaker 8: one that's coming soon, but I don't want to take

731
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Speaker 8: away from the one, the most recent one that dropped

732
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Speaker 8: or that's coming which is close to the vest, because

733
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Speaker 8: that that is just that story and as it's told

734
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Speaker 8: by those who experienced it, in real time, like that's

735
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Speaker 8: something that any and every Cowboys fan should be.

736
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Speaker 2: A part of. So you ended your holdout.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we were saying you half time for contracts.

738
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Speaker 2: You guys got it.

739
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Speaker 5: I ain't get them on money. He's I gave in.

740
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Speaker 5: I gave in before it really even got started. All right,

741
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Speaker 5: welcome back to the final second.

742
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Speaker 7: Such a funny statement, Yeah.

743
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Speaker 2: Chuckled as.

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Speaker 7: Good.

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Speaker 5: All right, So here's we We got more questions for

746
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Speaker 5: you guys. Here's our next question. Which veteran needs to

747
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Speaker 5: show more through the remainder of preseason to make the team.

748
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Speaker 5: To make the team, Kelvin Joseph, Ronald Jones, Neville Ga

749
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Speaker 5: Ronald Jones, Kelvin Joseph, or Neville Gallimore.

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Speaker 8: Right now, it's Ronald Jones, and I mean the low

751
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 8: hanging fruit there would be Kelvin Joseph. But Joseph has

752
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Speaker 8: the benefit of being a former second round pick. He

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Speaker 8: has familiarity with the coaching staff. They're going to want

754
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Speaker 8: to try to develop him to the point where they're

755
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Speaker 8: going to hold on to him until they can't any longer.

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Speaker 2: Nevill Gallimore.

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Speaker 8: I already see him making strides and I'm confident he

758
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Speaker 8: can continue continue to do so, and Mike McCarthy and

759
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Speaker 8: Dan Quinn they can't sing praise enough praise far as

760
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Speaker 8: the depth of their defensive line, I don't think they

761
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Speaker 8: want to carve into that unless they absolutely have to.

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Speaker 8: But when you look at Ronald Jones, he came in

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Speaker 8: on a one year deal. He's not, you know, a

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Speaker 8: draft pick for the Cowboys. He's not a guy who's

765
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Speaker 8: been here multiple years, so he doesn't have either of

766
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Speaker 8: those leverage points. And then he suffers the two game suspension,

767
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Speaker 8: and then he suffers the groin injury a few days later.

768
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Speaker 8: That's held him out of the Jacksonville Jaguars game, and

769
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Speaker 8: it sounds like it's going to hold him out of

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Speaker 8: the Seahawks game as well. Meanwhile, what if we've been

771
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Speaker 8: talking about Deuce Vaughn and ric o'dowdell when looking for

772
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Speaker 8: Melite Davis to take the step in Hunter Limkey. So

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Speaker 8: all things considered, it's it's Ronald Jones and it has

774
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Speaker 8: to be now. Unfortunately, he's not quite ready physically because

775
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Speaker 8: he didn't practice yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if he practices to do.

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Speaker 7: I'd like to see him, I mean, I want to

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Speaker 7: see what he can do. And because I still think

779
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Speaker 7: there's a void there for me at backup running back.

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Speaker 7: I mean that's just a spot that, you know. And

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Speaker 7: I think it's better now to see what Zeke got

782
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Speaker 7: money wise, and I think what Cook Salvin Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 7: sorry got But because because it's like, well, why don't

784
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 7: they just sign them to a cheaper deal, Well that

785
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Speaker 7: that's what the cheaper deal look like. And Cowboys didn't

786
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Speaker 7: want to pay initially, didn't want to pay eight and

787
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Speaker 7: a half over two years.

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Speaker 5: Six million still is still six million is still a

789
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Speaker 5: lot for Zeke from where from when I think the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys are willing to pay.

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Speaker 7: Well, right, I mean they didn't really want to go

792
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Speaker 7: four million more per year for Zach Martin. Yeah, so

793
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Speaker 7: they they didn't want want that. And but but I

794
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 7: still think that there's there's a need there for me.

795
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 7: There's there's a need for a bigger short yardage back.

796
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Speaker 7: We haven't really seen it yet, but you know, we

797
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 7: saw some things yesterday of what they they you know,

798
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Speaker 7: they're going to run the ball in a variety of ways.

799
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Speaker 7: There's gonna be a lot of guys running the football

800
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Speaker 7: more than just your running backs. You're gonna do it

801
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 7: in different ways.

802
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Speaker 5: And I don't know if you guys saw the play

803
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 5: yesterday with with Deuce running up the middle and kind

804
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 5: of just chopping through the defense. And I also wonder

805
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 5: if there will be moments like that and when it's

806
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 5: not like they're afraid to run him up between the tackles.

807
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Speaker 5: He did that in college. He may be a guy

808
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 5: that they use in that way in a similar way. Again,

809
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 5: they'll do it a lot of different ways, and I

810
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Speaker 5: think douce may be a part of that. Tony Pollard

811
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Speaker 5: will be a part of that, because I know a

812
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: lot of people have over the year said he's not

813
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: a between the tackles, but we've seen Tony probably can

814
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Speaker 5: do it right. So I do think that there may

815
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Speaker 5: be some of the people that you don't even necessarily

816
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 5: think about in short yards will be some of the

817
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Speaker 5: backs that will be involved in some short yard situations.

818
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Speaker 8: And I've said before pre draft, after the decision was

819
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Speaker 8: made to get duce Von, ladies and gentlemen, I get it.

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Speaker 8: You know, size is always going to be the conversation

821
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Speaker 8: when it comes to douce Von. But I promise you,

822
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Speaker 8: if it's one yard to go to get into that end, zone.

823
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Speaker 8: It takes an average of two to three yards for

824
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Speaker 8: the defenders to locate duce Von, So if it's one

825
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Speaker 8: or two yards to go to get into the end zone,

826
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Speaker 8: just just give it to him and watch him reappear

827
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Speaker 8: with a touchdown, excuse me, with a touchdown untouched more

828
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Speaker 8: often than not. So yes, I do believe he's going

829
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Speaker 8: to in in a big way when it comes to

830
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Speaker 8: short yarded situations.

831
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Speaker 7: I know if if if Mossie Smith isn't your starting

832
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Speaker 7: defensive tackle, he's pretty quick off the ball. I mean

833
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Speaker 7: there not to get the ball, but as I need

834
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Speaker 7: a I need a blocker like that, I'm he would be.

835
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Speaker 7: He would be somebody I would look at. Now, I'm

836
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Speaker 7: not saying that they're going to do that, and if

837
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Speaker 7: they do, you know they probably hate that I say that,

838
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Speaker 7: But you know, I would like to see more of that,

839
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Speaker 7: more of the defensive guys that can provide a push

840
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Speaker 7: like that. I think.

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Speaker 5: I think it's I would actually look at a guy

842
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Speaker 5: like Osa for something like that. I think Osa is quick.

843
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Speaker 7: You've gotta be quick, but there's no doubt you have

844
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Speaker 7: to be quick. He might be better at it, I

845
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 7: know what. And then like a couple of years ago

846
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Speaker 7: that the Bears they would use three four guys in

847
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 7: there doing that stuff, have some fun.

848
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Speaker 8: It'd be interesting because we know that when Connor mcgovernor

849
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Speaker 8: was here, they did love kind of flexing him as

850
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Speaker 8: fullback because they wanted that big, powerful body.

851
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Speaker 2: They're in those short yards. So maybe they pull some

852
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Speaker 2: from the defense.

853
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Speaker 7: And I didn't.

854
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Speaker 8: It didn't. It'll hit the same.

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Speaker 7: You gotta have somebody that that's that's got a little

856
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 7: got a little athletic quickness to him. You know that

857
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 7: played a little tight end or something in the past.

858
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Speaker 2: And he loves hitting people.

859
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 8: So they don't even like football, just like it's a

860
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 8: great opportunity for him to have football, right, Yeah, let's

861
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Speaker 8: keep it between the line.

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00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: That's good and we're all.

863
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Speaker 5: Glad he has an outlet. All right, So let's let's

864
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Speaker 5: let's move on to the next question. Which of these

865
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Speaker 5: rookies do you see having a larger role in the

866
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Speaker 5: regular season for this team, because it looks like, in

867
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Speaker 5: my opinion right now, it looks like there won't be

868
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 5: one of these rookies that will actually be a starter

869
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 5: barring injury, then like any of them is going to

870
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Speaker 5: start the season as the starter. But from Marvin Overshown,

871
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 5: Deuce Vaughn, Luke spoon Maker, and Mazzie Smith. Mazzie Smith,

872
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Speaker 5: which of those four do you think will have a

873
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 5: larger role in the regular season for this team?

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Speaker 2: These questions are fire.

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Speaker 7: I ain't knock off school Maker, but I mean.

876
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Speaker 5: Well, you can say a role for each one of

877
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Speaker 5: them right now. You can literally say, I know, I

878
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 5: think this person will have this role. I don't know

879
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Speaker 5: which one will be bigger. That's why I'm asking you,

880
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: the analyst, who are the professionals which will be bigger

881
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 5: have bigger on the courts?

882
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 7: Was not man, this is the broadest, really good where

883
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 7: at first you're like, this is easy, wait and this

884
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 7: is a good one biggest role.

885
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 8: I got my answer. It's just Jamarion Overshown. I'm going

886
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 8: with over shown by a hair by a hair over

887
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 8: Duce Vaughan, and it's for me. It's the depth equation

888
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 8: at the position. I still at this point obviously Tony

889
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 8: Pollard RB one, I see Rico Daudo as RB two.

890
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 8: I see the Cowboys getting Turping involved on offense. That

891
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 8: includes some handoffs. We've seen Turpin take some handoffs as well,

892
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 8: how do you factor in Hunter lip Key, And then

893
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 8: you have Duce Vaughan, who they're going to get involved,

894
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 8: but he's going to have to you.

895
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Speaker 2: Know, share.

896
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Speaker 8: Okay, when you look at the linebacker depth situation, you

897
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Speaker 8: got Lve, you got de Moone Clark, who I believe

898
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Speaker 8: is gonna have a breakout season. But then behind that,

899
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Speaker 8: you were looking coming into camp, you were looking for

900
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 8: someone to elevate Jabril Cox is making strides, but so

901
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 8: is the Marveon Overshown. The difference between the two is Overjon.

902
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Speaker 8: Overshown has more flexibility, and you can see dan Quinn

903
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 8: already starting to put him in different positions to test

904
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Speaker 8: him out.

905
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Speaker 2: And if you look at.

906
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Speaker 8: The Jags game, he's already excelling in several of those

907
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Speaker 8: situations and recognizing his keys. So all things considered, I'm

908
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Speaker 8: gonna go with hook him Horns over here, and we're

909
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Speaker 8: gonna say Overshown has the bigger impact.

910
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think all of them are gonna have a

911
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 7: role like that in a in a Nickel type type

912
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Speaker 7: way or offense or defense. I mean, Mazi will be

913
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Speaker 7: more first and second downs, I would I would imagine

914
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Speaker 7: he but yeah, I think it would be ducer overshown,

915
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Speaker 7: and I think overshown is the right answer there because

916
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Speaker 7: I think of the special teams. I think it'll be

917
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Speaker 7: on all of the special teams. And then I also

918
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Speaker 7: think there's gonna be a good role for him on defense.

919
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Speaker 5: I think he takes time from if he's on the

920
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Speaker 5: field more then who actually ends up being on the

921
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Speaker 5: field less.

922
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Speaker 7: It could be it could be demonor Leighton, depends on

923
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Speaker 7: how they how they run that linebackers. I think down

924
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 7: and distance is gonna play a factor in it too.

925
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Speaker 7: It be a safety, could be.

926
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Speaker 5: A game type situation too, Like based on the matchups

927
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Speaker 5: in this game, we're gonna do a little bit more

928
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 5: with him or with three linebackers as opposed to that

929
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 5: extra safety sometimes they like to put in the game.

930
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Speaker 8: It's gonna be very intriguing when you also factor in

931
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Speaker 8: the fact that and I've been dropping some bread crumbs

932
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Speaker 8: if you're paying attention, ladies and gentlemen, Layden Vandersch has

933
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Speaker 8: been getting some work cleany of work off of the

934
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 8: edge and oga's mini camping here in camp. So I

935
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Speaker 8: think you'll see some three linebacker sets where only Damone

936
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Speaker 8: and Demarveon are actually the traditional linebackers and Lve is

937
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 8: set to go off the edge. Now does that mean

938
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Speaker 8: his hand is in the dirt? Maybe, maybe not. But

939
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Speaker 8: I think dan Quinn has a lot of tricks up

940
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Speaker 8: his bag to get overshown his reps without its sacrificing

941
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Speaker 8: someone like Damon because he's gonna get his.

942
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Speaker 2: But you don't want to take away from Damon's development.

943
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Speaker 5: Right, And I get that, But that also means that

944
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 5: probably if you're gonna have three linebackers on the field,

945
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Speaker 5: that one of your three safety not gonna be on

946
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Speaker 5: the film somebody situation.

947
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna change my answer. The guy that I think

948
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Speaker 7: is gonna get the most reps out of all that

949
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Speaker 7: as Schoonmaker, I really do. I think because I think

950
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Speaker 7: he'll play in a lot of two tight ends. They

951
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 7: love to have two tight ends, and I think he

952
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 7: will be one of the two tight ends. I think

953
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Speaker 7: they'll they'll have different practices, produced different packages for overshowing,

954
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Speaker 7: Mazie will get some time, but I think not not

955
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 7: not touches as much, but snaps. I think I think

956
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 7: Schoonmaker Max to get the most snaps. I could see that,

957
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 7: But it's a good question. I mean because those four

958
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Speaker 7: guys are all gonna.

959
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 8: Happen, which wouldn't I mean, that would answer your question

960
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 8: as far as was it a waste to pick it

961
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Speaker 8: is the second round.

962
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Speaker 2: You know, he gets the majority of them.

963
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Speaker 7: You know, what's a great problem to have is none

964
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Speaker 7: of those four guys have I mean, will probably be starters,

965
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 7: maybe schoonmaker, but probably not at the you know. And

966
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Speaker 7: and those are good draft picks that are doing good things,

967
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 7: but not good enough right now to start on your

968
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Speaker 7: football team.

969
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Speaker 8: That just shows you a depth, you know, your depth

970
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Speaker 8: that you've got. It's gonna be fun. And this Cowboys,

971
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 8: this Cowboys defense is gonna be fun. The Cowboys offense

972
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Speaker 8: and I feel good saying this now. The Cowboys offense

973
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 8: is gonna be fun again. It's gonna be fun. I

974
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Speaker 8: love what I'm seeing from Mike's uh, Michael Coffy's play

975
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 8: calling uh thus far. And obviously keep in mind, you know,

976
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 8: three quarters of the playbook is gonna stay under lock

977
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 8: and key in the preseason. But even with the limited

978
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 8: plays that Mike wants to expose and put on film,

979
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Speaker 8: the situational play calling, it felt against the Jaguars, and

980
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 8: hopefully this continues against the Seahawks and we'll see. But

981
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 8: it felt like guys had separation. There's the word separation.

982
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 8: The wide receivers were getting separation. They were in open

983
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 8: space a lot as the defense couldn't figure out which

984
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 8: weapon to.

985
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Speaker 2: Shape coverage to. So uh, let's let's have some fun,

986
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Speaker 2: shall we.

987
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Speaker 5: All right, this is gonna be my last question. I

988
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Speaker 5: know we're already over time, but I can't finish the

989
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 5: show without asking it. If you have to give one

990
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 5: name m VP of twenty twenty three training Camp, who's

991
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 5: your MVP.

992
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 7: Chris Bean for me?

993
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a trust the producer.

994
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Speaker 7: I mean that one.

995
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Speaker 2: For me.

996
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 7: But on the field, guys, just say it.

997
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 2: It's it's the obvious one, is it? Go fourth thing?

998
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: It's Michael.

999
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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, that's the obvious one. So you want I

1000
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Speaker 5: almost wanted, I almost wanted to say with that without

1001
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Speaker 5: putting in there. But that's not for Michael. So so

1002
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 5: that's fair. You take Michaeh and uh and Nick. It's

1003
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Speaker 5: up to you take somebody else.

1004
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Speaker 7: I mean, man, Mike has been impressive, but I mean

1005
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 7: because he's because he's always impressive, but not.

1006
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: Like this dude is really unstoppable.

1007
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Speaker 5: I mean literally every day, multiple times, I'm like, yeah,

1008
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Speaker 5: that play doesn't.

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Speaker 8: They had to accidentally kick his leg yesterday to get

1010
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Speaker 8: him out. By the way, he's fine. Fasceration on the calf,

1011
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 8: He'll be all right, ladies and gentlemen. No need to

1012
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 8: break out the pitchforks and look for the assailant. Michael

1013
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 8: Parsons has just been every time we think we can't

1014
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 8: fathom a next level for this guy, he finds it next.

1015
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Speaker 7: So he's the defensive.

1016
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Speaker 5: Yeah, there we go. Let's take the defense, give me

1017
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Speaker 5: an offensive.

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Speaker 7: I think for the reasons we said earlier and just

1019
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 7: what he's taking the offense to another level. I'm gonna

1020
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Speaker 7: go with Cooks, and I think Cooks has done He's

1021
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 7: brought the offense along. He's helping young guys. He's doing

1022
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Speaker 7: what a veteran should do. He's he's like, he's gonna

1023
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Speaker 7: be a great locker room presence. We've seen it. He's

1024
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Speaker 7: gonna add great speed, we've seen it. He's gonna have

1025
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Speaker 7: great versatility. We've seen it. I go with Cooks because

1026
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Speaker 7: he's just of what he brings the offense.

1027
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Speaker 5: All right, we appreciate you guys joining us for this

1028
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Speaker 5: entire four week period. We are back in Dallas. Next

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Speaker 5: week we'll be back in Frisco, coming home at the Star.

1030
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Speaker 5: We'll have our show on Monday, so next week we'll

1031
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Speaker 5: still continue our every other day throughout the remainder of

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Speaker 5: the preseason. So next week we'll be on Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

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Speaker 5: The week following will be on Tuesday and Thursday, and

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Speaker 5: then the week after that is week one of the

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Speaker 5: NFL season. We will start our daily shows on Labor Day,

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Speaker 5: but on that Tuesday our everyday shows. Every day we

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Speaker 5: make sure you join us, makes you check us out

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Speaker 5: for that till then. For Nick, Nick and Patrick Walker,

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