1 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt the shutdown approaches, looks 2 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: like there might actually be a last stand to get 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: that border wall. After all. We'll go into the latest 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: from the White House, and also an update to the 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: story of the seven year old girl who died at 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: our southern border last week. The facts aren't what the 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: Democrats seem to think they were. And finally, Sean Parnell 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: will join to talk about a Green Beret who faces 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: a possible death penalty for killing the enemy. That more 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: coming up on The buck Sexton Show. This is the 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show, where the mission or mission is to 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake, 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: You're a great American Again. The buck Sexton Show begins 14 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: the Sea Analyst Remember the NMPD. Whenever a president say 15 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: to the American people at Christmas time, I am going 16 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: to shut down your government, it pains me because I 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: know that that's going to make a bad pristiman for 18 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people. And I would say to the 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: President that a lot of people who have worked hard 20 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: and all they want to do is live their lives. 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: What is the president's plan and will he shut it 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: down to get this five billion in border wall funding. 23 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: We're going to do whatever is necessary to build the 24 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: border wall to stop this ongoing crisis of illegal immigration. 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: This is a This is a very if it comes 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: to it, absolutely, this is a very fundamental issue. At 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: stake is the question of whether or not the United 28 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: States remains a sovereign country, whether or not we can 29 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: establish and the force rules for entrance into our country. 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: The Democrat Party is a simple choice. They can either 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: choose to fight for America's working class or to promote 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: illegal immigration. You can't do both. Welcome the Buck Sexton Show. 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Buck Saxon Show. It looks like there 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: might be a shutdown after all, folks. I'm a little surprised, 35 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. I did not think that 36 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: we would be here. But it looks like the Republicans 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: may have found some backbone after all. Though I might 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: be speaking too soon. But notice how this turns into 39 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: a battle of narratives. This turns into who can make 40 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: the best appeal to the public. And you really had 41 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: a pretty good overview there, courtesy of a logic. Cummings 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: and Stephen Miller, the President's White House aide and policies 43 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: are of sorts on immigrations. Specifically, the left, the Pelosiites, 44 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: the shue Marians, I like that, the ancient shue Marians, 45 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: the Babylonians. They view this as just an opportunity to 46 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: say that Trump is reckless, that shutting this down before 47 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Christmas is heartless. The Trump is the grin that if 48 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: in fact, there is a shutdown, and by the way, 49 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: I hope there is, I am. I am rooting for 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: a shutdown because this is a fight we need to have. 51 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: We need to see what the American people really think 52 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: when presented with this choice. But on the left, the 53 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: Democrats offer up well, pretty much what you would expect 54 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: them to. They give you, Oh, it's so cruel and 55 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: heartless for the government employees that aren't going to have 56 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: their paycheck. Oh, it's terrible for people that are expecting to, 57 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, spend time at the Grand Canyon facilities that 58 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: are run by the National Park Service, at so on 59 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: and so forth. And yeah, there there will be costs, 60 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: at least in the short term to a shutdown. There'll 61 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: be some inconveniences, but that's to be expected. There is 62 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: a trade off going on here. So on the one hand, 63 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: you have the fear of eighty percent or so of 64 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: the government still operating exactly as it is twenty percent 65 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: of our federal government. You know, keep in mind there 66 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: were whole departments of the federal government that did not 67 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: exist in living memory. I mean, entire agencies that weren't 68 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: even there. But we're supposed to believe that if eighty 69 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: percent of the government continues on, that's what's left out 70 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 1: of that equation is going to make it into dogs 71 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: and cats living together mass hysteria for the rest of us. 72 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just I don't buy it, and I 73 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: know you don't buy it either. There have been I 74 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: think about a dozen or so shutdowns in the past. 75 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: We're all fine, We're still here. We don't live in 76 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: some mad Max dystopia, right, We're not all just running 77 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: to our nearest neighbor that has plenty of storable food, ammunition, 78 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: and tactical training. Although it's always good that I speak 79 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: to you team, because I feel like this radio audience 80 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: if things ever did get really bad, you know, if 81 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: the zombie apocalypse apocalypse came, I just put out the 82 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: Buck signal of the team Buck. I know I'd be fine. 83 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: You guys would have me covered. But nothing terrible is 84 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: going to happen. If the government shutsdown, it will all 85 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: be okay, but it will force a discussion. It will 86 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: force a debate in front of the American people, just 87 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: like the one that Trump tried to have with Pelosi 88 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: and Schumer last week. Will we get to hear what 89 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: do the two sides think about this? What do they want? 90 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: And I already told you the Democrats have they're going 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: to focus on. Oh the shutdown, it's heart Listen. Government 92 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: employees will get back pay. Congress has always made sure 93 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: that even if you're one of those furloughed federal employees, 94 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: that you get the pay that you were going to 95 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: get for the time period. And that wouldn't change here, 96 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: and nobody would want that to change here. You know, 97 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: they're showing up in good faith to do their jobs. 98 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: They shouldn't not have a job to do because of 99 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: Congress being unable to do its job. But that said, 100 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: look at the other side of the equation for a moment, 101 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: do we really think the status quo is sustainable? Because 102 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: the status quo is, the border keeps getting worse, Loopholes 103 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: are exploited, illegal immigration continues. Illegal immigration surges, drugs are 104 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: pouring into this country. They're killing over seventy thousand of 105 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: our fellow Americans. We have crime spiking, we have public 106 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: services strained. We have all these things tied to either 107 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: illegal immigration or the cartels, or a combination thereof. You'll 108 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: notice how the media really goes to great length to 109 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: speak about illegal immigration as though it is not at 110 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: our southern border directly tied to the cartels. Meanwhile, the 111 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: truth is that the cartels have broken up our border 112 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: into plazzas regions, and those plazzas aren't just for drugs smuggling, 113 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: they're for human smuggling too. And when we talk about coyotes, 114 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: we might want to start thinking about coyotes in terms 115 00:06:54,279 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: of employees of drug cartels, as in cartel members, people 116 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: that are associated with the cartels. And I'm sure they 117 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: don't just smuggle human beings either, smuggling all kinds of stuff. 118 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: That's what's on the other side of this. And then 119 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: you look at the long term reality here and what 120 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: happens to a country that has overwhelmed by the fecklessness 121 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: of its leadership, the processes of assimilation that are in place, 122 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: What happens to a country that has rapid change of 123 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: its demographics, with people coming into the country who the first, 124 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: their first act on US soil is illegal. Their very 125 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: presence here, their very first moment in America, is a 126 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: statement of their willingness to break US law and then 127 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: come here and are told by the left and Democrat 128 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: activists and our own media that they are owed this. 129 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: Remember that activist that I interviewed on the street last week. 130 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: They're owed because of US foreign policy. They're owed this 131 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: because of colonialism, because of white privilege, whatever the left 132 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: wing explanation is. And we also have a Democrat party 133 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: that's increasingly trying to enlarge the welfare state as it is, 134 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: and yet they won't privilege the interests of America's poor. First. 135 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: For the Democrats, a mouth defeat is a mouth defeat. 136 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: They don't care if it's an American mouth or a 137 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: foreigner who's come into this country and is getting access 138 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: to what is turning into the largest soup kitchen in 139 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: the world. The us of a these are very and 140 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: then we can talk about the labor market and the 141 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: labor pool and what this does to those who are 142 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: trying to work their way up or trying to get 143 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: into the middle class, who want some sense of economic 144 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: and professional security and want to be rewarded for a 145 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: hard day's labor. Turns out, if you dump countless, endless 146 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: amounts of low wage, non English speaking workers on the economy, 147 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: it has a negative impact on those who were not 148 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to come from a background where they're likely 149 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: to go to college, where they're likely even necessarily to 150 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: finish high school. And this used to be gospel on 151 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: the left. They try to say this is all to right, 152 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: this is racism. To talk about a secure border is 153 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: somehow evil. Even though Obama used to talk about a 154 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: secure border. Obama says don't come here and bring your 155 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: children now. He was saying it because that's where the 156 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: American people were, and he wasn't going to win that argument. 157 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: The left, his left wing base, did not agree with 158 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: him on that. But they don't have an honest discussion 159 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: on this issue. They don't have the willingness to debate 160 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: these principles, these points as they are. It's always emotional manipulation, 161 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: it's always demagoguery, an emotional and psychological blackmail by screaming 162 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: that everyone else is racist, by pretending that the only 163 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: moral and decent point of view is to operate in 164 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: a state of de fact open borders, to pretend there's 165 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: no downside, only upside, no cost, only benefits, and we've 166 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: all had enough. The wall will be helpful. But the 167 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: wall is not everything. It's also it is not the 168 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: only thing. It's also symbolic of a willingness to do 169 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: something about this issue, to take action, substantive, meaningful action. 170 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: It might move the entire conversation at immigration. It's not 171 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: just we'll have a barrier that will assist border patrol 172 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: sector by sector, mile by mile. That's how this has 173 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: to be done. Maybe there's some areas where you need 174 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: very little, if any physical construction because it's inhospitable terrain, 175 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: there's no access roads and border patrol's got to cover. 176 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: But there are other places we're clearly like San Diego, 177 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: where there is a border fence. It helps, it works. 178 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: But not only would that prove that we have been 179 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: lied to by the elites, by the media, by the 180 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: Democrat Party on this whole concept of a wall, it 181 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: would show that we don't have to just continue to 182 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: suffer under this lawlessness covered up with dishonesty all the time, 183 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: that we don't have to accept this as the status 184 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: quo of the border. That's what the wall would do, 185 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: and it would be a progression. It would take time, 186 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: it would get stronger and better. The wall would get better, 187 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: but our conversation around immigration would too. And once we 188 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: have a firm grasp on our southern border, once we 189 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: don't have seventy thousand one month, one hundred thousand another month, 190 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: fifty thousand another month pouring into the country with the 191 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: full expectation they're going to be allowed into the country 192 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: because of this loophole about asylum. Once we have that 193 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: our control, then we can say, okay, what do we 194 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: really do now? What do we do now about the 195 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: illegals that are already in the country. But you can't 196 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: even have that discussion until you have a secure border. 197 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: You can't even look at what comes next. And by 198 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: the way, there would have to be deportations, not necessarily 199 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: of everybody who's in the country illegally, but there would 200 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: certainly have to be a review process in detail, in 201 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: depth of who are these individuals, how long have they 202 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: been here, can they prove it, how they've been productive? 203 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: Do we make them leave the country, reapply, and then 204 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,119 Speaker 1: come back. I mean, what, that's all a serious conversation. 205 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: You can't even have that conversation until the southern border secure. 206 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Can't do it. It's nonsense. Democrats know this, which is 207 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: why they are desperate. I mean, they are hell bent 208 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: on preventing the border from being secured. I mean it 209 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: is their preference that this continue on. They can't say that, 210 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: but that's what and that's why the shutdown fight is 211 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: so important. People need to see the Democrats for who 212 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: they really are on this issue. They can't allow the 213 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: media or runcover for them. They can't just look at 214 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: the caravan, all the lies that were told with the caravan. 215 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: Oh there's no criminals. Oh they'll never get to the border. Oh, 216 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: it's all fearmongering. Lie lie, lie, lies everywhere from the 217 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: biggest networks in the country, with one exception. Lies. Did 218 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: they change any of their behavior? Was there any introspection? 219 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: Was there any reflection from the mainstream media afterward? No, 220 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: of course not, because they have an agenda and they 221 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: are executing on that agenda. When they silence people by 222 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: calling them racist, when they claim that a secure border 223 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: is somehow the the wish only of the alts right 224 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: or of nationalists in this country. Meanwhile, it was a 225 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: bipartisan expressed through legislation, bipartisan desire just a few years back. 226 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: What has changed, Well, let's change. The Democrats have become 227 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: a party on social issues of people who are anti 228 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: science and just delusional. On the economy. They can't do math. 229 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: They think that socialism is going to solve things and 230 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: make things cheaper and better. They don't know history either. 231 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: And on the border, what they realize is that this 232 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: is the way that they can overcome all of their 233 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: other structural political deficiencies. Keep this issue going, use it 234 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: to mobilize the Latino base in America, use this to 235 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: create a whole new generations of Democrat voters, and in 236 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: the process, we're paying the bills in every conceivable way. 237 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: All right, team, we get a lot more. I've got 238 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: a show today that's going to cover a lot of ground, 239 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: including this this green beret who's facing a death penalty 240 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: charge for killing a Taliban bomb maker. We'll get into that. 241 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: We'll have my friend and Champarnel, former Army ranger, joining 242 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: talk about it. I've also got some of the sanctacomy 243 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: testimony today on Capitol Hill Man. That guy's ah, he's 244 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: a clown. And then we have more on this issue 245 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: at the border coming up. So a. Oh, and of 246 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: course Flynn and the firing of I'm sorry, the charges 247 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: rather against some of Flynn's former business partners, General Flynn. 248 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: So Stack show, we've got more. Come and stay with me. 249 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: Sorry to spoil the surprise, but if you're getting gift 250 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: from me this Christmas, you're getting coffee from my favorite 251 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: coffee company, Black Rifle Coffee. Every morning when I go 252 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: into the Hill, I have a steamy, hot, delicious cup 253 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: of Black Rifle, just black. And that's also how I 254 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: drink it. And the name of the coffee. By the way, 255 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: it is delicious, Okay. 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The administration, if you will, always 274 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: has the clock, and in this case, the clock is 275 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: running out. So what would normally be two hundred and 276 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: forty five, I don't remember two hundred and forty five. 277 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: Demands Department of Justice to provide at least some of 278 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: the information. He says he doesn't remember. There's no time 279 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: for that, And this Department of Justice, under no real management, 280 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: continues to withhold information and even cause him to withhold 281 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: information on those occasions of which he knew something. Komey 282 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: was given round two today of Komy Paluza twenty eighteen, 283 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: which is like going to a rock concert where there's 284 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: no music and they only serve fruit juice, but not 285 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: even vaping aloud at komy Paluza. But Komey was there 286 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: today and it was exactly what I expected. Just the same, old, 287 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: the same old sancta Coomy doing what he does, being evasive, 288 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: being smarmy, not giving any real answers to any questions, 289 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: just generally being a pain and the one. And we 290 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: might get in a little more of this tomorrow because 291 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: I'll have more time to focus on this issue, and 292 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: I want to go back to our immigration battle in 293 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: a moment here. But I did want to just note 294 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: that Comey was testifying today. He was asked about what 295 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: he's done to the FBI's reputation. Play nineteen director Comy, 296 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: the FBI's reputation has taken a big hit over the 297 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: last year. Do you share any of the responsibility for that? No, 298 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: the FBI's reputation has taken a big hit because the 299 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: President of the United States, with his acolytes, has lied 300 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: about it constantly and in face of those lies. A 301 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: whole lot of good people who watch your network believe 302 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: that nonsense. That's a tragedy that will be undone eventually. 303 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: But that damage has nothing to do with me. So 304 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: what about McCabe, Well, the deputy director of the FBI, 305 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: they got fired. Did he do anything call me to 306 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: hurt the reputation the FBI? What about Jeter Struck working 307 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: on a case as a senior counterintelligence agent, talking about 308 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: how Trump is a blanking this and a blanking that 309 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 1: while he's investigating him. What about lista page He's a paramore. 310 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: That's just fine. Huh. She was the same thing. Oh, 311 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: what can we do to help Hillary? He's got on 312 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: the list? And what about Comee himself leaking information to 313 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: the New York Times via a cutout so he can 314 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: settle some political score. That's how important Komei thinks. He 315 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: is always always, remember this. Komy ultimately pretends to care 316 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: so much about the American people, but he cares so 317 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: much more about himself than the American people, and that's 318 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: evident in everything he does and says. Now, one of 319 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: the great tragedies that is going on in our country 320 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: today is the loopholes and our immigration laws, and the 321 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: deficiencies and immigration laws, and left wing activist judicial rulings 322 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: that incentivize the most vulnerable populations to come to our country. 323 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: Last year, administ last year, one hundred thousand unaccompanied alien 324 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: children or children traveling with adults showed up at our 325 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: southern border. President Trump took dramatic action, issued an executive 326 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: order directing illegal traffic to the ports of entry, but 327 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: a left wing activist judge issued a reckless nationwide injunction 328 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: of the President's order, putting thousands of lives at risk 329 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: and further enriching these grotesque as Stephen Miller is hated 330 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: by the left, largely because he's effective in talking about 331 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: immigration policy. I mean they hate him. They they protested him. 332 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: I walked past the protest last week, waiting outside of 333 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: his apartment, harassing him, not letting him, you know, get 334 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: a good night's sleep, bothering him. Why Well, because when 335 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: he speaks of immigration, he knows what the heck he's 336 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: talking about, and he does not mince words. What's going 337 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: on now is a scam. People are scamming our immigration 338 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: system thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, and there 339 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: are millions who are here illegally. I'm I'm talking about that. 340 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about people that are using this loophole, this 341 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: idea that if you come to the border with a child, 342 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: now you deserve special and different treatment. So now people 343 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: are using in a sense, children as legal human shields 344 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: in order to get entry into the United States. That's 345 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: what they are doing. There's also while you have people 346 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: that show up with children that are not actually family members. 347 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: This has been that doesn't get reported a lot, but 348 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: this is happening. People who are showing up who are 349 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: human smugglers, human traffickers. The cartels are making millions, tens 350 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: of millions, maybe hundreds of millions, smuggling people and drugs 351 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: into the United States, maybe meaning that they're using some 352 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: of the people they're smuggling as part of their drug 353 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: running operation, and they're making billions selling drugs. And Stephen 354 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: Miller is just saying, look, they're not allowing the Trump 355 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: administration to even do what they're supposed to an immigration 356 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: Once again, what did we see on the Muslim ban. Oh, 357 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: it's the most it's the worst thing ever. Oh, it's 358 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: it's so unconstitutional. It turns out it is constitutional. Oh, 359 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: it turns out that some activist judges on that when 360 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: we're wrong, it's that surprised. You know, of course not, 361 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: but we know what's really going on here. Stephen Miller 362 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: is saying, look, this one judge in this case, forget 363 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: about the Muslim ban for a second, which the Supreme 364 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: Court said Trump was right and with it his authority. 365 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: Remember he's the commander chief. You know. Part of the 366 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: problem here is that the left does not think of 367 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: immigration as a security related matter. Is this is a 368 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: really political and culturally salient distinction between left and right. Now. 369 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: They don't see any threat, any national security implication of 370 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: immigrant They just don't. They completely dismiss this idea that 371 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: any terrorists could ever come into the country via the 372 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: asylum program. Oh but that's happened. But they still say 373 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: that never happens. They dismissed the idea of the terrorists 374 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: or MS thirteen gang members. You know, you are more 375 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: likely in this country to die because a gang banger, 376 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: not to freak everybody out, but because a gang banger 377 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: you know, pops off a bunch of a bunch of 378 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: rounds during a drive by, or or you know, or 379 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 1: stabs you in a in a robbery than you are 380 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: from a terrorist attack. So there's the security and law 381 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: enforcement component of this as well. And you know, the 382 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: president has a duty to the citizens of this country 383 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: to prevent foreign criminal activity from coming into this country. 384 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: You know that is in the purview of the federal government, 385 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: in the executive branch, the presidents. That's a top that. 386 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: But the left rejects the idea that there's any national 387 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: security importance to the border. They reject the idea that 388 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: we need to care from a security perspective about what's 389 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: going on. And when you look at the seventy thousand 390 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: plus debts from opioids every year and how much of 391 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: that overdose rate comes from illegal drugs and the percentage 392 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: of those illegal drugs that are coming from the cartels, 393 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: they are a true they are a clear and present 394 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: danger to United States citizens. The cartels, and the cartels 395 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: are running a vast majority of the drugs across our 396 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: southern border. They're not flying them in on planes, they're 397 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: not floating them in on gun boats or on go 398 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: fast or any of that stuff. Yeah, occasionally you see 399 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: one of these drug runners with a submarine or something, 400 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: it's mostly running it across the border, sometimes via tunnels, 401 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: sometimes in the pickup truck. But however it is, they're 402 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: taking it across our southern border, and we have our 403 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: government has an obligation to stop that. People are dying. 404 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: They are dying because of this, and a federal judge says, no, 405 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't in any way influence immigration policy, 406 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: President Trump, when it comes to the asylum law that's 407 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 1: being abused. Notice how they're all about the law at 408 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: the front end and don't care at the back end. 409 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: The front end of asylum law is if you show 410 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: up and claim us and claim asylum and you pass 411 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: the initial screening, and the initial screening is basically, do 412 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: you have a credible fear? If you say yes, you 413 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: get led into the country. Notice how if you listen 414 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: to Democrats, that part of the law is sacred. But 415 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 1: the okay, if you then don't show up for your 416 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: immigration hearing, your asylum hearing, or you're denied asylum at 417 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: the hearing, you must be expelled from the country. That 418 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: part they fight tooth and nail. This is what democrats do. 419 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: They don't they don't reject all laws. They just reject 420 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: the laws. They don't like, but they are literal, they 421 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: are black and white on laws they do like, you know, 422 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: there can be no discretion, there could be no good 423 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: faith operation from their political opponents who are trying to 424 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: secure the border, trying to secure the country. And so 425 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: Miller pointing out that this one judge, this one federal judge, 426 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: is able to override the president on an area in 427 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: his purview. You know, it does force the question what 428 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: would happen if President Trump responded to an actual invasion 429 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: of some kind. Let let's say you know that the 430 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: and I don't know, let's say the Russians grabbed one 431 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: of the you know, one of the islands off Alaska 432 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: and Trump was going to respond to it with military force. 433 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: Could one federal judge be like, sorry, Congress has not 434 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: given you authority to do this, and would out override 435 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: the president. It's the little thought experiment you could run. 436 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: You know, this is ultimately, this really is about securing 437 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: the border. You know, Kelly and Conway. I get killing 438 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: Conway a lot of credit. Man, She's out there, she's 439 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: in the fight, and she takes so much incoming from 440 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: the left, and she is she is a fighter. It's 441 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: not easy to do I even feel sometimes like, man, 442 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how much more of this defamation, you know, 443 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: I can take from from the lefties. They're just just 444 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 1: such a bunch of wackos. I'm just kidding, though, Shields high, right, 445 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't can't be the slogan of the 446 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: show if I'm not going to hold my shield high. 447 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: But Kelly an said this about border security play three. 448 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: This is way beyond immigration or even the wall. This 449 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: is border security, and border security is national security. This 450 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: president has made clear that his primary duty to all 451 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: of us in this country tis to keep us safe. 452 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: And we see what happens when you have a poorous border. 453 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: You have poison like fencannel and heroin cocaine pouring over. 454 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: You have people trying to come here illegally. You have 455 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: people being promised by coyotes and others that they've paid 456 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars to maybe more. This is a president 457 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: who knows that we as an have been spending billions 458 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: of dollars ever decades helping other nations protect their own 459 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: sovereign boarders. It's high time we do it here. There 460 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: were twenty six Democrats in the Senate who voted for 461 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: the Secure Offences Act in two thousand and six, and 462 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: they were none other. Let me just highlight a few 463 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: for you. Senator Joe Biden, Senator Barack Obama, Senator Chuck Schumer, 464 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: and Senator Ding Ding Ding Hillary Clinton. So what's happened 465 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: on the border since the two thousand and six Secure 466 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: Offences Act was pat was voted on. It got worse. 467 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: It's more poorous, that's all true. It did get worse. 468 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: It is more porous. You cannot take Democrats seriously on 469 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: this issue. They are lying. Oh, we have more on 470 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: this though, more updates on the border coming up. This 471 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: is mad what USLBA, This is what Trump. Sure, he 472 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: doesn't have any law or care of combussion to anybody. 473 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: So I don't know why nation as a president like him. 474 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: So I hope you get rid of Trump soon. Where 475 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: does the brain line? First? First, the people that was 476 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: involved directly, but they must or they act under orders 477 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: from somebody else, And so you have to go all 478 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: the way to the top. And the language, it's more 479 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: aggressive than physical violence. Speaking the way Trump speaks is 480 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: not good for this nation. Change and change soon. Hurgan 481 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: man going to be there for long. So that's the 482 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: former president of Mexico. It Sente Fox doing exactly what 483 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the media did, which was find a 484 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: way to use the death of a seven year old 485 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: girl at the border to not just blame Trump's immigration policy, 486 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: but you really go after the president of the United States. 487 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean, make this as though, as though Trump himself 488 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: refuse to give this this girl who was malnourished and dehydried, 489 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, to give her water to drink. Trump is 490 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: just no, he is so mean. These people are are crazy. 491 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: These people are not operating with a with a rational mindset. 492 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: And the President of the United States is in no 493 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: way not ass he's not responsible for this. To claim 494 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: that that the president would feel anything other than other 495 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: than sheer horror at this, I mean, look, say, there's 496 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: a lot of things you can say with this president, 497 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: a lot of criticisms of him, but you know, I 498 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: think that he's actually a very sympathetic guy. I think 499 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: that he gives people too many chances. I think that 500 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: he gives people the benefit of the doubt. I think 501 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: that he views, you know, loyalty as something that's so 502 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: important that sometimes he does place it above confidence. But 503 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: more than anything else, I think he's a he's a 504 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: guy who likes to give people second chances. He's a 505 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: guy who likes to see what's what's better in folks 506 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: than what they may even see in themselves. And I 507 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: think that he is very I think he's very sympathetic. 508 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: I think that he you know, he likes people. You know, 509 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't think Nancy Pelosi's very sympathetic. I'm just gonna 510 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: call it out. I mean, I think Trump is somebody 511 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: who really Trump cares about construction workers, he cares about 512 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: truck drivers, he cares about normal everyday folks. He's not 513 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: one of them, not saying to him, and he doesn't 514 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: pretend to me one of them. But I think he 515 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: does care about them. And the notion that he wouldn't 516 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: care about a seven year old girl to the boarder, 517 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: this is terrible. I mean, Trump fired off missiles because 518 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: of a chemical weapons attack in Syria and because of 519 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: the photos of children that were gasping for error that 520 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: that we're dying in the Syrian civil war. So just 521 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's just a slander. It is just a 522 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: slander to say that the president doesn't care about this. 523 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: And then when you go to the policies involved here. Well, 524 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: actually I don't even good policies. Let's just go to 525 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: the facts. You know, last week it was oh, look 526 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: at Trump. He's response with this, it's so terrible. Well, 527 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: when you talk to the father of this seven year 528 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: old girl, here's what he said, Play thirteen. According to 529 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: DHS officials and the father, the young girl first started 530 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: showing signs of distress and vomiting during a ninety minute 531 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: bus ride to a Border patrol station in Lordsburg, New Mexico. 532 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: The girl died about twenty seven hours after being taken 533 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: into custody. The cause hasn't been determined. The father has 534 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: told officials he has no complaints about how border patrol 535 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: agents treated him and his daughter, and that he believes 536 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: everyone around them did everything possible to save the girl's life. 537 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: The father, all right, I feel terrible for this guy 538 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: because I have a lot of sympathy for people that 539 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: are trying to come into this country. Doesn't mean I 540 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: agree with or mka with those who are doing it illegally, 541 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: but I get it. It's a great country we live in. 542 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: We want to keep it great, though, If we want 543 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: to make this the beacon of freedom and prosperity and 544 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: dignity that it is for the rest of the world. 545 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: You know, we have to preserve it, and that means 546 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: the rule of law and sovereignty matter. But that doesn't 547 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: mean that I don't I don't feel sympathy for the 548 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: people that want to be here, that I don't understand 549 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: that urge and that I don't You know, I get 550 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: it right, you get it too, Yeah, I mean, do 551 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: I think that you should be able to come here 552 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: just because you know, Honduras isn't really bad shape? No? 553 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: But do I feel badly that Honduras is in such 554 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: bad shape? I mean, you know, on an individual basis, 555 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: do I feel for people that are trapped in poverty 556 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: and misery and have no way of bettering their lives? Yeah, 557 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: I absolutely do. I think that's a basic human feeling 558 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: that we all have, at least we as Americans have. 559 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't speak to the way that other 560 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: places in the world view other countries, but certainly that's 561 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: the way that we are, we the American people. But 562 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: the father is saying even that that he has no 563 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: complaints about what the HS did because he knows he airlifted. 564 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: He's seven year old to a hospital. I mean, he 565 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: put her in a helicopter. They had people meet her, right, 566 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: she was fine. They checked her, she was fine. Nobody 567 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: thought she wasn't fine. The father didn't note that she 568 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: wasn't fine, and you know, she wasn't showing any signs 569 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: of anything. They're they're overwhelmed as it is with all 570 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: these people who were coming into the country right now, 571 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: trying to you know, find any way, any loophole to 572 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: stay here. But there's no outward signs. There's nothing to 573 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: point to to suggest that anything is amiss. And the 574 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: moment that there was, they had they had emergency workers 575 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: meet at the bus because the girl was having a 576 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: seizure on the bus, and they emergency workers met her. 577 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: She had been offered I believe, food and water, according 578 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: to the reports that I read, and they took her 579 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: right to the airport. I mean they're doing I mean 580 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: right to the hospital rather airlifted her with a helicopter. 581 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that, of course they should do that. 582 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: Anybody who's in mortal peril should be treated in this 583 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: way in this country. That's who we are. But let's 584 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: not pretend they that airlift ride and everything else. I mean, 585 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: if it's are to add this up, I mean that 586 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: the cost of that's probably ten or fifteen grand. I mean, 587 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, let's not act like they didn't do anything. 588 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Let's not act like the government said, yeah, 589 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, too bad, you're not one of us. Furthest 590 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: thing from it. And it's so unfair what the Democrats 591 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: did last week, what the Schumer Pelosi left wing loons 592 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: were running with, wasn't just an attack on Trump, although 593 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: that was obviously very high on the agenda. It's also 594 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: attack on the men and women of border patrol and 595 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: Immigration and Customs Service who are doing a hard job 596 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: that we need them to do every day, and they 597 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: were being thrown under the bus by Democrats pandering to 598 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: the open borders maniacs in this country. And it's unacceptable. 599 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: All right, those be the men and women of our 600 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: border patrol are men and women just like you and me. 601 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: They are Americans, they're doing a hard job. They have 602 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: their own husbands and wives, their own children. And for 603 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: anyone to suggest, as was so widely suggested, that it 604 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: was a indifference and policy failure last week that led 605 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: to that seven year old girl dying. That's a scandal. 606 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: But this is what we're you know, the scandal is 607 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: the lie. But this is what we're going to continue 608 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: to deal with because the left in it with its lust, 609 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: its thirst for power. The left is so thirsty for 610 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: power and authority. With that drive, they are willing to 611 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: do almost anything that will push them to lie and 612 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: to defame the men and women of Border Patrol. And 613 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: we need to be on guard because this was not 614 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: the fault of the United States people or the United 615 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: States government. It's about to be a new year. 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It's an awful, awful ruling. 635 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: We're going to fight this tooth and nail, and the 636 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: first thing we're going to do when we get back 637 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: there in the Senate is urge put a vote on 638 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: the floor urging an intervention in the case the judge. 639 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: A lot of this depends on congressional intent, and if 640 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: a majority of the House and a majority of the 641 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: Senate say that this case should be overturned, it'll have 642 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: a tremendous effect on the appeal. So great run in 643 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: for a country. We'll be able to get great healthcare. 644 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: We'll sit down with the Democrats with the Supreme Court 645 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: of Votes. We'll be sitting down with the Democrats said, 646 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: we will get great healthcare for our people. Let's say 647 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: repeal the new place hands a little bit differently. But 648 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: it was a big, big victory. All right. So the 649 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: big news that just broke, what was it over the 650 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: weekend It came out of the own Friday, is that 651 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: this judge US Distrecord, Judge Ried O'Connor of Texas, has 652 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: declared Obamacare unconstitutional. Yeah, it was Friday evening, this game 653 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: down unconstitutional, which people now say it puts the healthcare, 654 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: the healthcare law in jeopardy. I have I'm gonna I'm 655 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you as I always am. I 656 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: gotta get rid of that figure of speech. I've I'm 657 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: mixed about this. I have mixed feelings about this. And no, 658 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: it's not that I think Obamacare is go to think 659 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: Obamacare is unconstitutional. I think Obamacare is a badly constructed, 660 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: badly implemented, and long term, very destructive bill, both to 661 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: our legal order in this country as well as to 662 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: the healthcare that we receive. I think that it puts 663 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: us on oh oh oh and oh buckets all. I'm 664 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: like the kid is excited in the class to answer 665 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: his own questions. Apparently, oh call on me. But then 666 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: also the third point about it is that as somebody 667 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: who got I got into media during the Obamacare fight, 668 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean the era of the Tea Party in Obamacare. 669 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: That's when I thought that, you know this, this was 670 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: the place out. I didn't want I work for the 671 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: executive branch. I didn't want to work for the Obama 672 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: anymore in sorry for the Obama administration in the CIA. 673 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: So I left and I wanted to do other things, 674 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: and I got this opportunity. Long story short about a 675 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: being here. I am years later, but I think Obamacare 676 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: is terrible. That all said, oh wait, no, no. The 677 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: thing that I didn't add into this is that it 678 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: was a step on the way to single payer. It 679 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: was a step on the way to single payer. That 680 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: I've been saying this many I mean, I'm not saying 681 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: that I'm like some prognosticator. Everybody's been paying attention, but 682 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: saying this takes us down the pathway toward single payer. 683 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: This takes us to a place where the government all 684 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden starts writing the check. And once the 685 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: government starts writing the checks for some people's healthcare, then 686 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: that's how they try to get rid of employer provided healthcare, 687 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: because employers are going to be like, you know, forget this, 688 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: let's just have they write the checks for all of 689 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: our employees. Why do we want to do those? Why 690 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: don't we want to shoulder the increasing premiums and decreasing 691 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: level of care and all this other stuff. Forget that, 692 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: you know, let people get their their public option, people 693 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: get their own healthcare via the government. So those are 694 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: my One Obamacare is constitutional. Two it's crap, lousy and 695 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: bad for healthcare and bad for the rule of law. 696 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: And three it's it's just a way point on the 697 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: path to single pair, which has been Medicare for all 698 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: slash single pairer. Depending on what the Democrats actually go for. 699 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to go for true single payer. 700 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: They'll probably go for some expansion of the Medicare program 701 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: because people like Medicare. Okay, So then why am I 702 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: saying I'm mixed about it? Well, because the Republicans in 703 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: in what I think, I have to say, Republican Congress, 704 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: in a combination of gutlessness and lack of legislative skill 705 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: and foresight, Republicans do not have did not have a 706 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: replacement bill ready to go for this thing. You know, 707 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: how is that possible. How could we be in this 708 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: place whereafter I can't even remember how many it was. 709 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: I want to say it was dozens. It felt like 710 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 1: it was seventy. It might as well have been a million. 711 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: All these votes that they took on the floor of 712 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 1: the House either lived like a repeal or to play 713 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: all out of care. Okay, great, repealing plays Obamacare. Then 714 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: when it came time, we couldn't even get fifty one 715 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: senators to vote for it. And we all know who 716 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: is responsible for the shortfall there. But at the end 717 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 1: of the day, Republicans did not get it done, and 718 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: we were told they would get it done. So I 719 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: think we're allowed to be very disappointed. And Republicans also 720 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: keep getting schooled in the demagoguery department here by Democrats 721 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: because it just this just turns into a fight over 722 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: pre existing conditions. That's all. That's all we ever hear 723 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: about prexist. The bill is, you know, thousands of pages long, 724 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: but it's just you know, oh, Republicans want to take 725 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: away your previusing conditions, and now it's Republicans want to 726 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: take away your healthcare. Those of us who also work, 727 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: saying that all they have to do is pass Obamacare 728 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: and you'll never really be able to get rid of it. 729 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: We're right, well, right, So you know that's an additional 730 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,959 Speaker 1: layer here. I think Republicans don't look good on this. 731 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: This isn't a political winner for them because when they 732 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: had a majority in the House, in the Senate and 733 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: a Republican in the White House, it's you can't say, oh, buck, 734 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 1: they needed sixty votes because they couldn't get to fifty 735 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 1: plus one with the tie coming from Pence. They couldn't 736 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: get there. So it's irrelevant that they couldn't get to 737 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: the sixty because they couldn't even get to the fifty 738 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: that they would have needed here, So you know that 739 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: you got to remember that. So Republicans look look lousy 740 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: on this. And then also you know, I don't like 741 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: responding to a bad a bad decision of the judiciary 742 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: with with what I think is another weak decision from 743 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: the judiciary. You know, Obamacare is unconstitutional because of the 744 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: individual mandate compelling it's it's compelled commerce. Essentially, the government's 745 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: forcing it how to buy a product. And as much 746 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: as you and I can laugh, but how we think 747 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: the government should probably make people buy a Bible and 748 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: make people buy a firearm of some kind to keep 749 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: in their homes, and that would probably make for a 750 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: better country. Nonetheless, I would not advocate for that, Okay, 751 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: I do not advocate for the government forcing people to 752 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: buy a product just to be in this country. People 753 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: will bring up, oh, health, I'm sure, I mean auto 754 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: insurance and other things. That's that's a privilege that people 755 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: engage in. But look, that was at the part of 756 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: that was at the heart of the whole, at the 757 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: part at the heart of the debate before. But you know, 758 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: you don't you don't have to drive and be in America. 759 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: You know that that's a regulation on you do. You 760 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: have to have insurance under the Obamacare mandate, And that's 761 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: why they have this this penalty associated with it, which 762 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: they said was a tax, and it's a penalty. And 763 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: I think they did real harm to or notion to 764 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: rule a law by change what could be more of 765 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: a changing of planed words than saying something is a 766 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: penalty when it's attacked and it's at taxed when it's 767 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: a penalty, Wait, which is it? That's so, you know, 768 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is a strong decision though 769 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a strong decision because ultimately the 770 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 1: severability clause and the idea that because you don't have 771 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: the individual mandate, the individual mandate is necessary. The individual 772 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: mandate has not been struck from this thing by a 773 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: legislative act. It just is not being enforced. And the 774 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: decision to not enforce it via executive order is different 775 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: than an act of Congress to remove it. So I 776 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: don't think it's a strong discilce. I'm just gonna tell 777 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: you I don't think it's a strong decision, and I 778 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 1: don't mean to point people who are all excited, oh, 779 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: because I'm because it's not gonna last the Fifth Circuit. 780 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: This isn't the Ninth Circuit. The Fifth Circuit is a 781 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: pretty conservative at least as federal circuits go, as a 782 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: pretty as appeal circuits go, as a pretty conservative one. 783 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: I don't think this is gonna make it past there, 784 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: and maybe then it will be appealed to the Supreme Court, 785 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: but I'm not even sure the Supreme Court would take 786 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: it up. I think that you'll see this one will 787 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: likely get get over. This is a decision that will 788 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: likely get overturned, and then you'll have all the gloating 789 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 1: from the Libs. You say, see, we get our way 790 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: with the law even when we shouldn't, and then we 791 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: get our way with the law when we should. You know, 792 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: let's say that we get it on both sides. So 793 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: this is not the This is not the sweeping victory 794 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people were hoping it 795 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: would be when when you see the initial headline. I 796 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: know I felt the same way when you see the 797 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 1: headline about oh my gosh, look at this. You know, 798 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: we we should we should be so happy Obamacare is 799 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: finally you know, it's like ding dong the witch is dead, right, 800 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: Obamacare is gone. It's not it's not good for it's 801 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,439 Speaker 1: definitely the law of the land for the next year, 802 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: so they're not changing it for that, and it's just 803 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 1: getting a stay here. You know. Ultimately, this is we're 804 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: run around all these legal circles with us now with Obamacare. 805 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: Here's here's where the real as I see, where the 806 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: real debate is, or where it really should be. All right, 807 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: you have, on the one hand, um, a Democrat left 808 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 1: that believes that healthcare. This is a really fundamental healthcare 809 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,439 Speaker 1: debate in this country right now. Democrats and the left 810 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: think that healthcare is a human right and that the 811 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: state should be in charge of determining who gets healthcare 812 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: and at what level. And they can do this better 813 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: and more efficiently than the than the private sector can. 814 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: And they've managed to can vince enough people through a 815 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: lot of tricks of accounting, people think that Medicare is 816 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: paid for. Medicare is not paid for. Medicare beneficiaries take 817 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 1: twice as much out of the program as they pay 818 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: into it over their entire life of Medicare taxes. All right, 819 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: so this, you know, this is a thing. I know 820 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: people don't like to hear that. People like say, oh 821 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,919 Speaker 1: I paid into Medicare, okay, but most people pay into 822 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: Medicare take out a lot more, which just means that 823 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: they're they're running up the deficit, that care is running 824 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: up the depths. And people like it. Of course they 825 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: like it. It's free stuff. It's it's subsidized by tax 826 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: dollars of people that pay into it over there, but 827 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: it's it's still getting free stuff. But this is how 828 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 1: they've managed to convince people that you want the government 829 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: to be in charge of more of your healthcare by 830 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: essentially telling them that the free stuff model is just 831 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: going to get expanded and expanded. But you know that 832 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: that quote by Thatcher. The problems socialism is you run 833 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 1: out of other people's money. The problem with subsidized healthcare 834 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: is you're gonna run out of people to subsidize it, 835 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: and you're going to be the subsit or your children 836 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: or your grandchildren are going to be the subsidy. That 837 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,760 Speaker 1: that's where we're heading. So you have the one side, 838 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: people who just have convinced a large portion of the 839 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 1: American electorate that you want the government more involved than 840 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: paying more of your money, taxpayer dollars for healthcare. On 841 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 1: the other side, you have the hey, let's get the 842 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: free market involved here. But they're fighting a losing battle 843 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: right now because the healthcare market is already a large 844 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: portion of it is already taken up by government spending, 845 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 1: and that portion's getting larger all the time, and we're 846 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,760 Speaker 1: just not winning the argument about how you can get better, 847 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: more efficient, more quality care. If you have a free 848 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: market and healthcare, you know what you really want is 849 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 1: essentially everyone to have catastrophic coverage, meaning if you get 850 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: really sick, you're just covered. Okay, if you get really 851 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: sick you get and then you know, you have to 852 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 1: have some incentive for people. And this is what nobody 853 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: wants to talk about. And now you're getting into well, 854 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, no one wants to talk about diseases that 855 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 1: are largely lifestyle driven, which is the biggest single driver 856 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: of healthcare spending in this country. People say that, oh, 857 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: look at Europe, They've got better healthcare outcomes than we do. 858 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 1: That's because in Europe people are generally a little healthier 859 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: than they are here, and a lot of that is 860 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: diet and lifestyle. The number one drivers of our healthcare 861 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 1: spending in terms of disease are type two diabetes, cancer, 862 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,479 Speaker 1: and heart disease. Those are the ones that are drying 863 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: and the ones that are getting larger and larger as 864 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: a percentage all the time are type two diabetes and 865 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: cardiac diseases, different different disease of the cardiac system. And 866 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: that's a lot of that's driven by lifestyle. And that's 867 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: where you say, okay, well we don't want people have 868 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: to pay you know, people who have to pay more. 869 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: But you know, do you have an insurance system or 870 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: do you have subsidized care? If it's insurance, you know, 871 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: if you're a drive. If you're somebody who's driving a 872 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: car one hundred and twenty miles an hour all the 873 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: time and you're getting caught every now and again, insurance 874 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: company's gonna charge you more. If you're a smoker, they're 875 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: gonna charge you more. Well, there are other things too 876 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: where they're gonna they if they were doing a true 877 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 1: insurance system based on a risk pool, they would charge 878 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: some people more. We don't want to hear this. This 879 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: is the and and people who are getting right now, 880 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: they're probably getting a little frustrated. And even I'm talking 881 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: about it. It's just the truth. It's just the truth. 882 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: So forget about pretty existing conditions. Lifestyle choice as it 883 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: affects the healthcare market is something that nobody wants to 884 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 1: talk about. Nobody wants to look at it and deal 885 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: with that component of the spending. And so that's why 886 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: we're just gonna keep getting deeper and deeper down this 887 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 1: down this rabbit hole. And I think we're gonna get 888 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: to a Medicare for all point in this country where 889 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: where the you know, the Democrats are going to view 890 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: that as a winning issue and we're gonna have to 891 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: deal with with the reality of a country that you know, 892 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 1: has a Medicare for all options. It's not going to 893 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: be good, but it's very popular, and it's very poplic 894 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: because people don't really understand what it entails. Let me, 895 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: what does what would that entail? What are the problems 896 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 1: with it? And where's all this Obamacare discussion going. 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You remove what the Democrats and 922 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: Roberts said was the absolutely essential element, the individual mandate, 923 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 1: which we did in the tax cut bill a year ago, 924 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 1: and the whole thing has to fall. They're the ones 925 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,720 Speaker 1: that said it. It does have to fall. The whole 926 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: thing hung on the individual mandate, and now that taxes zero, 927 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: it's gone away, so the act must fall. Their words 928 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: will come back to haunt them. It should get to 929 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, and Robert says, either going to have 930 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 1: to say, you know what, I was just lying. I 931 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 1: was trying to come up with some reason to uphold Obamacare. 932 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 1: But or he can say, you know what, I said 933 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: it and I'm in it, and therefore the whole thing 934 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,839 Speaker 1: must fall. You guys know, I like Congressman Gohmert out 935 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: of Texas a lot. I think, I think Louise a 936 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: great guy. I think he's wrong here, you know, and 937 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: we know we'll see, we'll see. I mean, I you know, 938 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: I I I learned a lot more from what I'm wrong, 939 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: I think than me just run around saying I'm right 940 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: all the time. So it's maybe maybe the Congressman see 941 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: something I do own here. But I think he's wrong 942 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: on this one. Because the individual mandate has not been 943 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: removed by Congress, has been removed by executive order. That's different. 944 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: It's still the law. They're just not enforcing it. And 945 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, we get very upset when, rightfully show when 946 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: President Obama, for example, decides that the law isn't really 947 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: the law and he's not really going to enforce some 948 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,280 Speaker 1: aspects of it just because he doesn't like some aspects 949 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,959 Speaker 1: of it. You know, that's that's also um not, that's 950 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: not good. So I I, you know, I gotta tell him. 951 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 1: We gotta keep it real here, folks, I do not 952 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 1: see this one. There are the other the original Obamacare 953 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: challenge about the individual mandate. Roberts completely screwed that up. 954 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: But this one, I think, I think conservatives this is 955 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: not going to stand in. It just puts Republicans in 956 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 1: a bad place going forward for healthcare. That's really that's 957 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: that's my sense of it. And you you know you 958 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: you heard me. I'm I'll go back and I'll update 959 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: this one. We'll see if I end up being right. 960 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm a feeling I will be, but I could be wrong. 961 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: So we have this this case of Major Matthew Goldstein, 962 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 1: and and I want to We're gonna bring on Sean Parnell, 963 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: who's my friend and a real great guy combat ve. 964 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna talk about this. But here's Major Matthew Goldstein 965 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: talking to Brett Barre on November fourth, and also his 966 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 1: father talking about this issue. Play clip fourteen. Did you 967 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: kill the Taliban bomb maker? Yes? You willingly offered up 968 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: these details at the CIA, right, that's Christ and that's 969 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: where it all started. Pretty much. It was an enemy combatant, 970 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: he was a known bomb maker. He was identified, and 971 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: the actions taken were to protect the lives of the 972 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: villagers and those in his unit and the people around him? 973 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: What is moral? What is ethical when you are in 974 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 1: warfare faced with a disgraceful enemy that will kill women 975 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: and children, that plays by no rules. What's ethical when 976 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 1: you know lives are in the balance? Do you leave 977 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 1: it to the system or do you decide that you 978 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: must act. That's a question we're going to tackle here 979 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 1: at a moment. We're going to pose it to my 980 00:56:54,800 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 1: friend Sean Parnell, stay with me, a case of agreean 981 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: beret who could face the death penalty. President Trump has 982 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 1: already waited on this one. He has said he's going 983 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: to take a look at it. But what exactly is 984 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: the story behind this h this controversy, what happened with 985 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: Major Matthew Goldstein? And and what should we make of 986 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: all this? We've got our friend Sean Parnell with us now. 987 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: He is a combat veteran. He led forces on the 988 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: front lines in Afghanistan, wrote a book about it, a 989 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: fantastic book called Outlaw Platoon, and he's a former Army ranger. 990 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: Mister Parnell, great to have you back it. It It is 991 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: great to be here, Buck, Thanks for having me, all right, man, 992 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: So so let's just for the folks listening, let's walk 993 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 1: through a little bit of this. So, so, uh, Major Goldstein, 994 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 1: he's a he's a Green Beret, So he's an army guy. 995 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 1: He is in the Battle of Helmand in Afghanistan, back 996 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: in what is it twenty ten or twenty ten, and 997 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: things get really nasty and then what what what is 998 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: the issue at at? And here's Sean what happened? Well, 999 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 1: apparently he killed he killed a guy that a bomb maker, 1000 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: that was responsible for killing a couple of Marines. Um, 1001 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: and you know there, here's the deal, you know where 1002 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 1: you know? And I said this on Twitter and I 1003 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: took a lot of criticism for it. But you know, 1004 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: when you're in a war, the object is to win, 1005 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: and you win by killing people, and oftentimes that is 1006 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: an inconvenient truth. Now that's not the sole mission, but 1007 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, the mission of Green Berets is foreign internal defense, 1008 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: which means training up indigenous populations so that so that 1009 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: host nations can fight wars on their own. But ultimately 1010 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: their first mission is just like any anybody else's close with, 1011 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: and destroy the enemy. Now they knew that this guy 1012 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: was a bomb maker, he had American blood on his hands, 1013 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: and this Green Beret killed him, and so my issue, 1014 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 1: of course, can we just just to give a little 1015 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 1: additional context. So my understanding you're from the from the 1016 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: reports that are out is that as you said, he 1017 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: this this guy's a Taliban bomb maker. They just lost 1018 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: two Marines to a bomb. They believe that that he 1019 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: They found bomb making materials in his house after a 1020 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 1: sweep near an area. So they so they lost two Marines, 1021 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,919 Speaker 1: they did a sweep, they find the bomb, bomb making 1022 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: materials rather, and then they bring that guy, this this 1023 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 1: Taliban member back to base, and that Taliban member sees 1024 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: an Afghan tribal elder. The tribal elder is then terrified 1025 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: that the taliband member is going to tell all this 1026 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: Taliban buddies, hey I saw this at you know, so 1027 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 1: if essentially the elders like, I'm dead and my whole 1028 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 1: family's dead. This guy saw me. And so then Goldstein, 1029 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: again this is what's all alleged that what's in the 1030 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: reports hasn't been adjudicated yet in a court. But Goldstein 1031 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 1: then allegedly just says, all right, this guy, we got 1032 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 1: to take him out, and so he shoots him and 1033 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: then they bury him in a shallow grave and later 1034 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: take him to a burn pit. This was all in 1035 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: the New York Times review of this. So those are 1036 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: the the you know that, that's the totality the facts 1037 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: as we know them right now. But then, so so 1038 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 1: what do you make of this? Well, first of all, 1039 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's if that, if if those are 1040 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: the facts and that's really what happened, you know there. 1041 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: To me, you know, there's we have we have to 1042 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: we have I mean, to me, we have to look in. 1043 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,479 Speaker 1: We have to look into what happened. I mean, because 1044 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 1: really we don't know. That's that's from the New York Times. 1045 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: I want to read the official report. Um, but you know, 1046 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 1: just to give you, to give you a sense of 1047 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: of how this sort of thing works. You know, we 1048 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 1: had an interpreter infiltrate Mi Paeltoon and he killed one 1049 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 1: of my soldiers and wounded four others seriously, and we 1050 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: took him into captivity. We did everything right right, and 1051 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 1: we sent him up to Bogram and he was released 1052 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 1: on his own recognisance because you know, we had to 1053 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: because of some paperwork mishap or SNAPf foo and now 1054 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: that soldier, that insurgent, that foreign fighter, if now back 1055 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: on the battlefield killing more Americans. And so, you know, 1056 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: obviously there has to be a line to see. My 1057 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: issue here, Buck, is that the rules of engagement are 1058 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 1: slanted towards Americans and are slanted towards war fighters. You know, 1059 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 1: we have to put American lives first. And so if 1060 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: you follow this logic, of course it's horrific and wrong 1061 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 1: to execute prisoners while they're in captivity. In fact, it's 1062 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: contrary to our values that Americans as Americans. It's what 1063 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: separates Americans on the battlefield from our enemy. The compassion 1064 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 1: that we show them is not a value that they share. 1065 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 1: But obviously there has to be a fine. There has 1066 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: to be a middle road here, you know, between executing 1067 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 1: soldiers you know, in prison, which is terrible and wrong 1068 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: it should never happen, to capturing them and doing the 1069 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 1: right thing and hire just releasing them back on the battlefield, 1070 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: which happens time and time and time again. And you know, 1071 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 1: American soldiers sees just get sick of it. They get 1072 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: sick and tired of seeing their their their brothers in 1073 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 1: arms come home and flag draped coffins because they caught 1074 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: a terrorist, did everything right to capture them and do 1075 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: the do the right thing and make sure that he's 1076 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: that he that he's turned in, and only to have 1077 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 1: him released. It is the most maddening and frustrating thing 1078 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: in the world. And you know, I have to live 1079 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: with the pain of losing the soldier every day. My soldier, 1080 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, his name is Scott Cole. His little kit 1081 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 1: will never hug his father because of this, you know. Um, 1082 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: So it's a tough sean. Can I ask you know, 1083 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 1: from from the perspective of from a from a civilian 1084 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: perspective of looking at this, it sounds like what Goldstein 1085 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 1: if he had done things. And also we're assuming that 1086 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 1: the facts here that have been presented are are the 1087 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: storyline right? There might be additional And also for those 1088 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 1: wondering how did this all come about? The Army had 1089 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 1: an initial investigation. He was reprimanded, but they did not 1090 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 1: press criminal charges. And then he gave an interview with 1091 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: U and that came out of a CIA interview where 1092 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 1: he was interviewing for a job. This is all according 1093 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 1: to The New York Times, interviewing for a job at 1094 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 1: the CIA in twenty eleven. He said he had killed 1095 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: this guy and then there was an investigation by the army. 1096 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 1: There was no charge for the Later he sat down 1097 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: with Bret Bare, who, by the way, for whatever it's worth, 1098 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 1: I think is one of the fairest and one of 1099 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 1: the best in the business. But Bret Bare just asked him, 1100 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 1: look what happened here, and the guy said, yeah, I 1101 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: killed this guy. And then they've reopened this investigation. But 1102 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: but to me, Sean, it sounds like if Goldstein had 1103 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: done everything that he was supposed to do, what would 1104 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 1: have happened here is a teleband bombmaker would have gone 1105 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 1: free killing two Marines suit your point, are never going 1106 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 1: to see their families again, and would have almost certainly 1107 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 1: killed this tribal elder probably his family along with him. 1108 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe maybe we get him again later 1109 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: on the battlefield. Maybe we don't. Yes, that's my problem 1110 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 1: with it. And if you if you follow this logic 1111 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 1: and what I was, what I was saying, and you 1112 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 1: know you you articulated it perfectly, Buck, But if you 1113 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: follow this logic like they are, the rules of engagement 1114 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 1: right now, places the lives of the enemy over the 1115 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 1: lives of Americans, And that to me, it's the core 1116 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 1: issue that to me is the problem. Um, you're exactly right. 1117 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Maybe we catch this. Maybe hey, we do everything right 1118 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 1: and the system fails us. So what this amounts to is, 1119 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: obviously it's the rules of engagement problem. But we're putting 1120 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: American servicemen and women in situations that are impossible to navigate. 1121 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 1: There's no right situation. So you capture him, you do 1122 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 1: the right thing. A bomb maker is released on a paperwork, snapfoo, 1123 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: or you kill him to masure he never goes back 1124 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: on the battlefield to kill American soldiers again. Now, of course, 1125 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 1: like god, if this Green Beret executed this guy and 1126 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 1: dumped him in a shallow grave, yeah, that I got 1127 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 1: a real problem with that. Um. But that's why I 1128 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 1: just want to see what the facts are in this case, 1129 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 1: and I want to hear this guy's side of the 1130 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: story before I make a final judgment. Yeah, I mean, 1131 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 1: I think that people also are very understandably reacting with 1132 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 1: horror at the notion that that one of our own 1133 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 1: who was called in a situation like this and this 1134 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 1: is not this is not walking in and you know 1135 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: this is in you know, my lie, this isn't walking 1136 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,640 Speaker 1: in and shooting women and children and someone this is 1137 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 1: a guy who's trying to defend his guys. He's in 1138 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 1: a difficult situation and and you know, and he does 1139 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: what he thinks he needs to do. Not just remember, 1140 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 1: it's not just justice for those two Marines, it's also 1141 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: saving an Afghan ally and and probably his family too, 1142 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 1: from god knows what the Taliban was going to do 1143 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 1: to them. And I think Sean the notion that and 1144 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: they keep this keeps getting repeated in the news reports 1145 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 1: that the death penalty is even on the table for 1146 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 1: this guy as a possible charge. People are like, uh, no, way, 1147 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: not not in this America. But no, exactly, it's it's 1148 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 1: it's it's absurd, and it's ridiculous, you know. And it's 1149 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: something else that people don't even think about. Right, how 1150 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 1: many drone strikes have been called from the Oval Office 1151 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: where they where they make calculated, tactical decisions, whether it 1152 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 1: was George W. Bush, Barack Obama or Donald Trump, right 1153 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 1: where they know that there's a high value target in 1154 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: a certain area in Pakistan, and they call it a 1155 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: drone strike, and they kill him and every single number 1156 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: of his family kills included. Now, all of those people 1157 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,440 Speaker 1: that call those drone strikes in from their comfy desks 1158 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 1: and offices are part of the same chain of command 1159 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 1: that this green beret is in, except for this green 1160 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 1: beret is front towards the enemy, getting shot at every 1161 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 1: single day, making decisions, you know, split second decisions that 1162 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 1: could mean life or death. And so we're going to 1163 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 1: throw this guy to the fire, charge him with a 1164 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 1: crime to where the death penalty is on the table. 1165 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 1: But every single civilian or politician has ever called in 1166 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 1: a drone strike where women and children have been killed, 1167 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: and by the way, it's happened hundreds of times, all 1168 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: those people are okay. So why why Why does the 1169 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 1: chain of command, why do the rules engagement? Why do 1170 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 1: they differ for soldiers that are boots on the ground 1171 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 1: in combat in tougher situations than they do for our 1172 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 1: own politicians here at home. That's a very good question. 1173 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, wondering what the answer would be from the 1174 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 1: people that are making decisions. Speaking of that showan the 1175 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 1: President's already gotten on Twitter about this thing. It looks 1176 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 1: like he says he's gonna look into it. Um if this, 1177 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 1: if this goes through, and I know that you would say, 1178 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 1: we'd have to go through the process to find out 1179 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 1: what the full facts are, right, he'd have to go 1180 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 1: and you know much more but this than I would 1181 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 1: be through UCMJ and through a court martial. And if 1182 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 1: that all happens, though, and it sounds like the story 1183 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 1: is that we think it is at this point, presidential commutation, 1184 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 1: presidential pardon. Would that be top of mind for you 1185 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: too early to know? How how do you assess it? Yeah? Absolutely, 1186 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 1: And I would say I would, I would absolutely. I 1187 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: don't want I don't want the screen Beret charge, you know, 1188 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, like, look, if there have been instances, I 1189 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 1: think there's one specific instance in Afghanistan up an American 1190 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 1: soldier going into a home and killing women and kids 1191 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: that to me cannot be tolerated. But but like it's 1192 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: important for people to remember that we are still in 1193 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 1: a war. The man that the Green Beret killed had 1194 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 1: American blood on his hands. If he captures him, he 1195 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 1: sends him into the system and the system fails him, 1196 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: or we release him and that insurgeon goes back onto 1197 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 1: the battlefield and kills Americans. It is a lose lose situation. 1198 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 1: And to me, we're putting Americans in impossible situations. So 1199 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 1: to me, the government in the chain of command have 1200 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 1: a greater responsibility than this green beret do on the 1201 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 1: battlefield to reform the way that our wars are fought 1202 01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: and to basically make the rules of engagement a heck 1203 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 1: of a lot simpler. And to me, the duty in 1204 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 1: the onus is on the chain of command rather than 1205 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 1: this green beret. There's a there's a reason why the 1206 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,360 Speaker 1: army sort of just slapped him on the wrist and said, 1207 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, move out and draw fire, so to speak. Now, 1208 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 1: this investigation was reopened after the fact, but I do think, 1209 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,639 Speaker 1: I do think that the president needs to get involved 1210 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,720 Speaker 1: and he needs to have a real hard look at 1211 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 1: what our rules of engagement are in whether or not 1212 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 1: they benefit American soldiers or the enemy. Sean part Now, everybody, 1213 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,600 Speaker 1: the author of Outlaw Plaitude and Sean, we got to 1214 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 1: leave it there for now. Thank you for your service, 1215 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 1: my friend, always going to talk to you, and thanks 1216 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,200 Speaker 1: for your perspective on this one. Everybody, America, we all 1217 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,759 Speaker 1: love Casey's show No No Prague. Ever, never he posted 1218 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 1: it on the internet. When the lawyers from McDermot, Will 1219 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:13,040 Speaker 1: and Emory answered that question and he's actually instructed me 1220 01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 1: when I was serving as this lawyer. Just don't answer 1221 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 1: it anymore because it's one of these silly things that 1222 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 1: constantly gets repeated. So the answers, No, he's never been 1223 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: to Prague, or even are we player asking what about 1224 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: the suburbs of Prague nowhere nearby? Okay, that's lady Davis 1225 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,679 Speaker 1: who was the lawyer for Michael Cohen talking about Prague. 1226 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,759 Speaker 1: Now why do we care about Prague? What about Prague 1227 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,639 Speaker 1: is of interest to this one? Oh? That's right. Prague, 1228 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: you'll remember, was the place where Michael Cohen was, according 1229 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 1: to the dossier, supposed to have visited as part of 1230 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 1: the whole Russia collusion scandal. Now that Prague would appear 1231 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,440 Speaker 1: in this way in the dossier, in the phony bologny 1232 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 1: nonsense DNC funded Hillary Clinton stamp of approval slime document 1233 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,759 Speaker 1: anti Trump screed that was the dossier, that that Prague 1234 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: appears there. That and now we know, beyond any reasonable 1235 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 1: doubt it should never have appeared there. This is meaningful. 1236 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: This tells us something. This is not This is not 1237 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 1: something that we should just look at and say, oh, 1238 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, who cares, no big deal, Because this is 1239 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 1: one of those verifiable or falsifiable facts. You know, if 1240 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: you recall when we were talking here on this show 1241 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 1: about the blasi Ford situation, right Christine Blasiford, she came 1242 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,519 Speaker 1: out and I said that from the get go there 1243 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 1: remember she's wrong, she's either lying or delusional on the 1244 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 1: other women are just straight up lying who accused Kavanaugh. 1245 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 1: But from the get go it was highly convenient and 1246 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 1: therefore very suspect that every aspect of her story was 1247 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: impossible based on her gaps in member impossible to falsify. 1248 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,720 Speaker 1: You know, did not know the date, did not know 1249 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 1: the house, did not know who took her home, did 1250 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 1: not you know, all the things that you would have 1251 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 1: to have in place in or any of the things 1252 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,640 Speaker 1: that you could have in place to say that is 1253 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:20,799 Speaker 1: factually inaccurate. This this thing that you've this this story 1254 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,559 Speaker 1: that you're telling, this fact that you've put into it, 1255 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 1: we can prove is false. Because once you have a 1256 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:30,800 Speaker 1: false fact, then you have people raising doubts about the 1257 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 1: whole rest of it. Now apply that, which is one 1258 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 1: of the reasons why I knew that the Plasi fourth 1259 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 1: thing was a scam, because you know, they just happened 1260 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,640 Speaker 1: to look far back, and it was plausible enough but 1261 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 1: vague enough that you could believe it, but you could 1262 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 1: not disbelieve it. Um. So that's that's important. On the uh, 1263 01:11:55,120 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 1: on the you know Prague traveling, that we don't that 1264 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:06,600 Speaker 1: we don't know that we don't know more of the 1265 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: dossier's falsifications at this point is not or rather that 1266 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 1: we can't prove it more of as false does not 1267 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: mean that we should not have huge red flags going 1268 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 1: off in our minds about you know, they got this wrong, 1269 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 1: what else did they get wrong? Right? I mean, you know, 1270 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,639 Speaker 1: we'd know Prague didn't happen, but what else in there? 1271 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,320 Speaker 1: People would say, oh, buck, the Russian hookers and the 1272 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 1: Golden Shower. I'm pardon me, that's what it's said in 1273 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:30,640 Speaker 1: the dossier. I know, I know, I'm not trying to 1274 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,840 Speaker 1: be gross, but the you know, those aspects of it, 1275 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 1: people would say, well, we can't disprove it yet. But 1276 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,720 Speaker 1: since we can disprove Prague, does not mean that we 1277 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:47,760 Speaker 1: should have more doubts about the whole dossier's veracity. And 1278 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 1: then add into this, the dossier was used by the 1279 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 1: federal government for a counterintelligence investigation using FISA warrants, which 1280 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 1: means the most sophisticated intelligence apparatus on the planet was 1281 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 1: affect actively turned against individuals like Papadopoulos and Carter Page. 1282 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 1: Where the charges I remind you where the charge against 1283 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 1: against carter Page. Remember when carter Page was like patient 1284 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,839 Speaker 1: zero of Russia collusion. I mean, carter Page was supposed 1285 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 1: to be the guy who was gonna make all there's lunacy, 1286 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,759 Speaker 1: no charges. They can't even get this guy online about anything. 1287 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the most earnest I'll talk to you 1288 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 1: about whatever you want, as long as you want. Guy. Ever, 1289 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't even know if he has counsel representing Hi 1290 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 1: when he meets with the Special Council. No charges against 1291 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,960 Speaker 1: carter Page. But the dossier was used in order to 1292 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 1: get that fires app up. I mean, this stuff is 1293 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 1: a sham. It's an embarrassment because Russia collusion's a farce. 1294 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: But the sad truth is that it served its purpose. 1295 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 1: Now that we know the produc didn't happen, we know 1296 01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 1: the dossier's garbage, We know that all the Russia collusion 1297 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 1: stuff is nonsense. You know what they've done. They've moved 1298 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,799 Speaker 1: on to other other so called crimes. Which was always 1299 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 1: the plan. The obvious point that everybody should understand is 1300 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,840 Speaker 1: that the FBI didn't ask him these questions to learn 1301 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 1: the truth because they knew the truth. They knew the truth. 1302 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: They weren't trying to obtain more information. They were simply 1303 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 1: giving him an opportunity to lie. I don't think in 1304 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,759 Speaker 1: America we want to empower the FBI of grand juries, 1305 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 1: of prosecutors to impose morality tests, criminal morality tests on citizens, 1306 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,719 Speaker 1: get them opportunities to lie, opportunities to tell the truth, 1307 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 1: test them. And as Judge Sullivan implied, and as Judge 1308 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,439 Speaker 1: Ellis said very clearly, the goal here was not to 1309 01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,680 Speaker 1: get Flynn. Obviously, He's just a means to the end. 1310 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,559 Speaker 1: Their goal was to find some low hanging fruits, figure 1311 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 1: out a way of getting him to lie to the 1312 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:52,160 Speaker 1: FBI so that they could squeeze him. Then either the 1313 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,839 Speaker 1: sing or to compose the obvious target here was Donald Trump. 1314 01:14:56,160 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 1: The obvious target of the whole Flynn saga, Donald Trump. 1315 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 1: That much as for sure, let me take a moment 1316 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,120 Speaker 1: to step back here and just say that it's it's 1317 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,960 Speaker 1: troubling to me to see how even the most basic 1318 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,519 Speaker 1: notions of fairness. You know, one of the things that 1319 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,720 Speaker 1: really does separate this country from other countries is the 1320 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:23,360 Speaker 1: respect that that every American historically has had for the 1321 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 1: rule of law. It's something that we really do take 1322 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,120 Speaker 1: from English common law and from our from our colonial 1323 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 1: our colonial founding. And you know, we we have this 1324 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,479 Speaker 1: notion that people all, we all kind of know the 1325 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 1: laws important. We all know. And I'm not saying people 1326 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 1: don't obviously either have ignorance of the law or discard 1327 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 1: it when they see fit, but in general, we take 1328 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,240 Speaker 1: the law very seriously, in fact orwell in his in 1329 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,519 Speaker 1: some of his writings made it very clear that what 1330 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 1: he felt made Englishmen different in the nineteen forties from 1331 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,799 Speaker 1: other countries was just this idea that the law applies 1332 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 1: to everyone, and everyone has to obey the law, and 1333 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 1: the law is meaningful. That's not true in a lot 1334 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,719 Speaker 1: of countries. A lot of countries the law is always 1335 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 1: kind of up to debate discussion, based purely upon power dynamics. Right, Well, 1336 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 1: the law isn't really the law if you're you know, 1337 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 1: a shake, you know, if you're from the Middle East, 1338 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,720 Speaker 1: the law doesn't really count. The law isn't really the 1339 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,640 Speaker 1: law if you're tied to the royal family in some 1340 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,720 Speaker 1: other country, you know the law and so on and 1341 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 1: so forth. And we don't accept that, and we don't 1342 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 1: we don't believe it that that should be something that 1343 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,679 Speaker 1: we change, that we adopt from other countries. But what 1344 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 1: we're seeing increasing is that people view the laws of 1345 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:46,040 Speaker 1: political instrument not mean not that the law obviously isn't 1346 01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 1: always going to have political implications, but that they can 1347 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:55,080 Speaker 1: try to abuse the law specifically to find a way 1348 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 1: of attacking their political opponents. And and this is very 1349 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 1: self evident when you just do a little bit of 1350 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,160 Speaker 1: a mental checklist here of Okay, what are some of 1351 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 1: the things that we've been told are really important laws 1352 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 1: that are used to go after either Trump or his associates, 1353 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 1: or try to come up with some narrative meant to 1354 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,080 Speaker 1: take down Trump as his associates. The Logan Act. Okay, 1355 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,519 Speaker 1: Logan Act has never been used in two hundred years. 1356 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,840 Speaker 1: The Logan Act is effectively not really a law, but 1357 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,680 Speaker 1: Sally Aids pretend that it was a law so that 1358 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,400 Speaker 1: she could go after a Trump associate. But you know, 1359 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,920 Speaker 1: the Logan Actor. That that's one example of one What 1360 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,479 Speaker 1: about the emolument's clause. How many people have really thought 1361 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,000 Speaker 1: long and hard about the emolument's clause? Oh, Trump can't 1362 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 1: be president because of owning hotels, and and if a 1363 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,880 Speaker 1: foreigner pays money in a hotel to stay there, and 1364 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,759 Speaker 1: Trump owns some interest in that hotel, it could influence 1365 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is nonsense, right. What it 1366 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,640 Speaker 1: really would mean is that nobody could nobody could be 1367 01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,080 Speaker 1: a businessman and go into government without giving up all 1368 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,720 Speaker 1: of their ownership in any company or any business. That's 1369 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 1: what it would mean based on this liberal interpretation of 1370 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:10,960 Speaker 1: And then you get into a campaign finance law, which 1371 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,960 Speaker 1: is among the most arbitrary of all the laws that exist. 1372 01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 1: Why is the current maximum personal contribution? I don't even 1373 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,559 Speaker 1: know what it is. I think it's twenty seven hundred 1374 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 1: dollars something. Why is that the number? Because they say so? 1375 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 1: Why isn't it five thousand? Why is it in fifty thousand? 1376 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 1: Because they say so? I mean, there's really no rhyme 1377 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 1: or reason to it. This is not really much of 1378 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,640 Speaker 1: a They just kind of threw a dart at a 1379 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,600 Speaker 1: board and said, yeah, we'll say that's what the And 1380 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,400 Speaker 1: if you spend more than that or you give more 1381 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 1: money than that. If you use a straw donor or 1382 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 1: anything like that, you're a criminal. Now they want they 1383 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,960 Speaker 1: want you to believe you're a criminal. Meanwhile, the media 1384 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 1: really operates as an unlicensed I mean, the mainstream corporate 1385 01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,960 Speaker 1: media operates as an unlicensed Democrat pack and has a 1386 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,680 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of influence over the elections and don't have 1387 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:05,519 Speaker 1: to think about whether they're giving by they make airtime decisions. 1388 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:10,479 Speaker 1: My friend, that is money, Make make no mistake about it. 1389 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,719 Speaker 1: That is money they're giving by the way they cover people. 1390 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 1: That is money. It is effectively dollars. What do most 1391 01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:21,360 Speaker 1: political campaigns spend a majority of their funds on ad buys? 1392 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,559 Speaker 1: That's right, ad buys for advertising. Well, you know, you 1393 01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,160 Speaker 1: can see now from the way that Trump was so successful, 1394 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,200 Speaker 1: if you're just effective enough at media, you don't even 1395 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,599 Speaker 1: need to spend that money. You spend more money the 1396 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 1: other guy on that. So anyway, you see how there's 1397 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,760 Speaker 1: all these different ways though that the Democrat Party has 1398 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,840 Speaker 1: just tried to find a means to use the law, 1399 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 1: find a way to come up with a construct of 1400 01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 1: the law that Trump or his people have violated it. 1401 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,920 Speaker 1: And online to the FBI. There should be way more 1402 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,840 Speaker 1: introspection about what's really going on here. I mean that 1403 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,759 Speaker 1: we accept, or we're supposed to accept, that the government 1404 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,160 Speaker 1: can lie to you lots and lots. I mean, the 1405 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 1: government can tell you that your wife has flipped on you, 1406 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,280 Speaker 1: that you're they can tell you that you know they've 1407 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,519 Speaker 1: got you on a wire tap that don't even have 1408 01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 1: you on. They can put somebody next to you who 1409 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 1: pretends to be your best friend and care about you 1410 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 1: more than anybody, and then that person you know, was 1411 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,080 Speaker 1: wearing a wire I mean, you know, all the different 1412 01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,680 Speaker 1: ways of subterfuge of deception the government can engage in. 1413 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,280 Speaker 1: And and you know people say, oh, Buck, that's necessary 1414 01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: to catch drug dealers. Yeah, but but there's a discretion 1415 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 1: involved here, right the same way that you know, technically 1416 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 1: the government can send in a squat team I guess 1417 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:44,040 Speaker 1: whenever it decides that it feels like it. But we 1418 01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,639 Speaker 1: get a little bit annoyed at. You know, what would 1419 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,280 Speaker 1: be a clear abuse of authority if, for example, you've 1420 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 1: got a white collar criminal says he's going to turn 1421 01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 1: himself in on on Monday, and the government just to 1422 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,760 Speaker 1: make a make a stink and they've done this kind 1423 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,759 Speaker 1: of thing before. They'll send in you know, of twenty 1424 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,639 Speaker 1: guys who are armed to arrest somebody in their office. 1425 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 1: You know, that's the pre Berara move, by the way, 1426 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 1: to try to get maximum press and I try to 1427 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 1: make an arrest as much of a show trial as possible. 1428 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 1: That's right, pret CNN Barrera. You know this is there's 1429 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,599 Speaker 1: so many ways that the law can be abused, and 1430 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,160 Speaker 1: we need to be aware of it. And that's not 1431 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,960 Speaker 1: the same thing as abusing the foundation of the system. 1432 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 1: That's trying to make sure the system is function the 1433 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,160 Speaker 1: way it's supposed to. You know, there's a difference between 1434 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:31,840 Speaker 1: trying to blow the whole thing up and trying to 1435 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,040 Speaker 1: criticize it to make sure that it's what we've been 1436 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,639 Speaker 1: promised and what we're supposed to have. And this will 1437 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,679 Speaker 1: aligned to the FBI thing with Flynn. I mean, that's 1438 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,280 Speaker 1: where I see them really just abandoned any ideas of 1439 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:52,040 Speaker 1: basic fairness. Now, I also have to note that these 1440 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:58,960 Speaker 1: guilty police today from these Flynn, these Flynn associated individuals 1441 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:04,400 Speaker 1: for this Turkish lobbying, right that that you could have 1442 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:12,320 Speaker 1: somebody that's working as the incoming national security advisor. I'm sorry, indicted, 1443 01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,680 Speaker 1: not not guilty. Please indicted, Pardon me. That's what I 1444 01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,480 Speaker 1: meant to say. That you have these former Flint associates 1445 01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 1: who are indicted. Let me just say this is bad. 1446 01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,519 Speaker 1: I'm not here to defend everything that General Flynn did, 1447 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:31,200 Speaker 1: despite his decades of military service. I'm not here to 1448 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,000 Speaker 1: say that everything flinted. I've told you from the beginning 1449 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 1: I did not like the General Flynn took money from 1450 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 1: RT from Russia today, which is a Kremlin propaganda channel. 1451 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,600 Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying it's criminal. I'm just saying I 1452 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,519 Speaker 1: don't like it because when Buck was living with, you know, 1453 01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,720 Speaker 1: three roommates in the West Village in New York and 1454 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,519 Speaker 1: had no money and was being offered has on RT, 1455 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,439 Speaker 1: I think I'm not going to be a part of that, 1456 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, And they were trying to sweet talk me 1457 01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:56,760 Speaker 1: and I could have been a contributor there and all 1458 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,439 Speaker 1: this other stuff in no way never even appeared on 1459 01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,639 Speaker 1: their air. And I made that conscious decision. Now, other 1460 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 1: people could feel differently about it, I can get but 1461 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:09,920 Speaker 1: but I don't. I'm not okay with that. The Flynn 1462 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 1: associate here, bijon Kian, who's been charged as part of 1463 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,519 Speaker 1: conspiracy to violet federal lobbying rules. He faces up to 1464 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 1: fifteen years in prison. And he got these these two guys, 1465 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:26,040 Speaker 1: Bijon Kian and Akim Alpteken, who were using Flynn on 1466 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,760 Speaker 1: their masthead in a sense to add to their credibility 1467 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,840 Speaker 1: that they were trying to get this. There's a lot 1468 01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,840 Speaker 1: of complexity here with this case. But Gulan, who is 1469 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,879 Speaker 1: this exiled cleric because living in Pennsylvania of all places, 1470 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,200 Speaker 1: get him extradited to Turkey. And they're doing this in 1471 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 1: a shady fashion. This is not okay. And I think 1472 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,719 Speaker 1: this may be why General Flynn hasn't fought the line 1473 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,760 Speaker 1: charge more vociferously, because this is good. This is a 1474 01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,680 Speaker 1: tougher thing for people to to brush off, excuse, or 1475 01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:03,640 Speaker 1: defend based on the fact pattern I'm seeing here. You 1476 01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:09,479 Speaker 1: cannot have the incoming National Security advisor associated with a 1477 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:15,839 Speaker 1: stealth a stealth lobbying campaign for the Air Douan government 1478 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:20,080 Speaker 1: in Turkey with regard to US policy that affects Turkey. 1479 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 1: This is bad. This is very problematic. So I would 1480 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 1: just note that Flynn. I've been a very strong defender 1481 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,920 Speaker 1: of Flynn because I know because he was set up. 1482 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they entrapped him. The whole thing is garbage. 1483 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:38,479 Speaker 1: But this Turkish lobbying, this, this looks like really poor judgment. 1484 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,240 Speaker 1: Was Flynn's rolling a criminal? I don't know. We'd have 1485 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,719 Speaker 1: to see what the what the facts of the case are, 1486 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 1: but you know, I think if Flynn was in look, 1487 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,760 Speaker 1: he shouldn't have been involved with this at all. He 1488 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: really shouldn't have. So I'm gonna want to watch watch 1489 01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,280 Speaker 1: this case play out a bit and see. But this, 1490 01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 1: this is, uh, this is troubling. 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The 1514 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,200 Speaker 1: way that the Flint investigation has been in your interview 1515 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:17,800 Speaker 1: has been carried out has come under a lot of 1516 01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,760 Speaker 1: criticism in your view, should that have been happened to 1517 01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,920 Speaker 1: have been handled any differently? How do you defend from 1518 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,200 Speaker 1: the criticism that this is Internet didn't happening. I think 1519 01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,519 Speaker 1: of what's happened to the Republican Party. They're up here 1520 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,719 Speaker 1: attacking the FBI's investigation of a guy who's pled guilty 1521 01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,839 Speaker 1: to lying to the FBI. He should have been warned, 1522 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,479 Speaker 1: you shouldn't lie. You should have been told you can 1523 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,840 Speaker 1: have a lawyer. Think of the state of affairs we've 1524 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,680 Speaker 1: ended up in. That's nonsense. I'm very proud of the 1525 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:47,320 Speaker 1: way the FBI conducted itself, agile, flexible, thoughtful, pursue the 1526 01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,479 Speaker 1: leads where you'd want us to. I just wanted to 1527 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 1: return to this for a moment here, because the criticism 1528 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,400 Speaker 1: of what the FBI did to Flynn is in my opinion, 1529 01:26:55,479 --> 01:27:00,040 Speaker 1: rock solid and Comey is a disgrace, and I'm I 1530 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:05,040 Speaker 1: feel almost like as an American, I've been violated. Knowing 1531 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,080 Speaker 1: that James Comy has had as much authority in the 1532 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,519 Speaker 1: United States Government, in the executive branch as he has 1533 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,559 Speaker 1: for as long as he has that James Comy was 1534 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:18,879 Speaker 1: making investigative and in the case of Hillary, prosecutorial apparently 1535 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,600 Speaker 1: decisions and prosecutorial decisions before that when he was a 1536 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 1: US attorney. That gives me. That gives me the creeps. 1537 01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,600 Speaker 1: This is not a This is not a person that 1538 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,000 Speaker 1: should be given power. There's a person who's really drunk 1539 01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:36,400 Speaker 1: on his own self righteousness and is not fair minded. 1540 01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,559 Speaker 1: He's not He's not a fair actor in this at all. 1541 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:41,840 Speaker 1: And let me just say, you know, when he starts 1542 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,920 Speaker 1: getting all huffy about how the FBI someone lied, the FBI, well, 1543 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 1: you know what, they prosecuted Scooter Libby for lying about 1544 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:54,160 Speaker 1: a conversation. And that was Comy's good buddy, Patrick Fitzgerald, 1545 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,800 Speaker 1: by the way, who was in his own he was 1546 01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,320 Speaker 1: the special counsel before. Not notice a pattern, your folks, 1547 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,679 Speaker 1: Republican administration and special counsel goes right to the heart 1548 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,960 Speaker 1: of trying to take out one of the top officials 1549 01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,040 Speaker 1: of the United States government, if not the president, the 1550 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,800 Speaker 1: vice president. This doesn't you know, we don't play the 1551 01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,080 Speaker 1: game as dirty as they do. No special counselor to 1552 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:21,160 Speaker 1: the Obama years, no special counsel on Benghazi, no special 1553 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,040 Speaker 1: counsel on Fast and Furious, no special counsel on the 1554 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,519 Speaker 1: irs targeting of conservatives. And these are all real things 1555 01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:31,240 Speaker 1: that happened. These are not crazy conspiracy theories like Russia collusion. 1556 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 1: But Comey's gonna pull this crap, say, oh, the FBI 1557 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,639 Speaker 1: he pleaded guilty. Yeah, people plead guilty. All the time 1558 01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:40,960 Speaker 1: because they don't want to spend the rest of their 1559 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:45,879 Speaker 1: life in prison. The fact pattern looks terrible for the FBI, 1560 01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,920 Speaker 1: looks terrible for the DJ About what happened here with Flynn, 1561 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,000 Speaker 1: there was no reason to sit down and talk to 1562 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,040 Speaker 1: him none. It was based on a pretext the logan 1563 01:28:56,080 --> 01:29:01,240 Speaker 1: at gimme in, give me a break. It's this is 1564 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,040 Speaker 1: like saying, we need to sit down and talk to 1565 01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 1: talk to Flynn because of this email we got about 1566 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,360 Speaker 1: aliens landing tomorrow. We wanted to ask if he knows 1567 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,559 Speaker 1: about the aliens that are landing in the in the spaceship. 1568 01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:14,000 Speaker 1: This is crap, but it was crap when they went 1569 01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:19,240 Speaker 1: after Scooter Livy and that was also political targeting. And 1570 01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, James Comey's buddy Fitzgerald was the one who 1571 01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 1: pushed that thing through and they tried to ruin a 1572 01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,240 Speaker 1: man's life over that. They were gonna send him to prison. 1573 01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,200 Speaker 1: He was gonna he was gonna serve I think eighteen 1574 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,960 Speaker 1: months in federal prison, you know, do some real time 1575 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:38,240 Speaker 1: for lying about a non crime, lying about some desk 1576 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:42,680 Speaker 1: jockey who is running around pretending like she's an international superspy. 1577 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 1: So much a superspy that she was doing a cover 1578 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,559 Speaker 1: shoot for Vanity Fair while this whole thing was going on. 1579 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,920 Speaker 1: She's so worried about all the people that might have 1580 01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,080 Speaker 1: been exposed overseas because her name was exposed. Give me 1581 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 1: a break. Her husband's writing op eds where he's supposed 1582 01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,680 Speaker 1: to be on some secret trip for the government in 1583 01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,479 Speaker 1: the New York Times, your racist op ed on it. 1584 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just these people have no ethics. I mean, 1585 01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:06,960 Speaker 1: this is part of the problem. This is why when 1586 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,680 Speaker 1: they want to criticize the ethics on our side, I 1587 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,080 Speaker 1: just say, you guys are a joke. They're a joke. 1588 01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,639 Speaker 1: We'rena listening to them. We're gonna listen to Sanctacomey drone 1589 01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,280 Speaker 1: on about this stuff. I mean, you know, I think 1590 01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 1: Flynn showed some bad judgment on some things that all said. 1591 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,360 Speaker 1: I'd say General Flynn over James Comey one hundred times 1592 01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:27,800 Speaker 1: and twice on Sunday. They have done so much here 1593 01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:33,880 Speaker 1: to break faith with the American people's conception of what 1594 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,680 Speaker 1: our justice system is supposed to be. I mean, the 1595 01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,320 Speaker 1: damage that has been done to the DOJ, the damage 1596 01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:43,320 Speaker 1: that has been done to our perception that both sides 1597 01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,000 Speaker 1: of the political spectrum, and people say, oh, bucklets so weird. 1598 01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:50,559 Speaker 1: Why do you say that. No, the establishment and the 1599 01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,559 Speaker 1: bureaucracy are one and the same, and the bureaucracy is 1600 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 1: now skewed toward the party of the state, because the 1601 01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,439 Speaker 1: state big s is always going to be the party 1602 01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,559 Speaker 1: of the bureaucracy. Right, if you are a federal government 1603 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,720 Speaker 1: studge who's been doing this for thirty years and your 1604 01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:12,679 Speaker 1: senior government official, it is very likely, it is very 1605 01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,720 Speaker 1: likely you're going to be a Democrat and maybe even 1606 01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,640 Speaker 1: a progressive one. It's not true of everybody I know. 1607 01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,000 Speaker 1: I know they're conservative patriots listen to the show. Who've 1608 01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,880 Speaker 1: been working for you, working for the Department of Agriculture 1609 01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,840 Speaker 1: or department whatever. But you know this, you don't even 1610 01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:28,080 Speaker 1: mean to tell you because I remember when I was 1611 01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:31,200 Speaker 1: the CIA. You got to keep that conservative Republican stuff 1612 01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:35,280 Speaker 1: to yourself when you're in the government, because the system 1613 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 1: is all about self perpetuation. And this real separation between 1614 01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:48,120 Speaker 1: those who believe that the citizenry live and exist by 1615 01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,040 Speaker 1: their leave and those who think that they're supposed to 1616 01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:54,120 Speaker 1: be serving the citizens of this country is a very 1617 01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,280 Speaker 1: very different perception here. I mean a lot of people 1618 01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,760 Speaker 1: like James Comey going to government service because they think 1619 01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:03,160 Speaker 1: that we need them to guide us. You see, James 1620 01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:06,400 Speaker 1: Comby thinks himself as almost like a guardian angel of 1621 01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,880 Speaker 1: American ethics and morality and law. And that's how that's 1622 01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 1: how he you know, that's how he is able to 1623 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:18,280 Speaker 1: sleep soundly at night. In reality, James Comey has made 1624 01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:22,200 Speaker 1: people like me trust the DOJ less than ever. And 1625 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell you this if I ever got 1626 01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:26,680 Speaker 1: into an issue at the federal government. Now, do I 1627 01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,080 Speaker 1: feel like as a conservative who's vocal, who's known, who 1628 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,000 Speaker 1: is on record, and who has has an audience, has 1629 01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,680 Speaker 1: a platform, has real sway in the conversation, Do I 1630 01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,800 Speaker 1: think I'd be fairly treated by the DOJ? Nope? I 1631 01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,599 Speaker 1: do not. Did denish to SUSA think he was fairly 1632 01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,360 Speaker 1: treated by the DOJ? Certainly not Scooter Liberty? Nope. I 1633 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:46,880 Speaker 1: mean you got on the list of all these people, 1634 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:50,280 Speaker 1: all these conservatives, where's the equivalent of their side? Where 1635 01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:54,439 Speaker 1: are the Democrats who have gotten rough stuff from the DOJ? 1636 01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,840 Speaker 1: You know, the ones who do deserve it and then 1637 01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,640 Speaker 1: some But when it comes to judge calls, when it 1638 01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:05,120 Speaker 1: comes to the gray area our side. Conservatives always get 1639 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,759 Speaker 1: the short end of the stick. And it's not an accident. 1640 01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:18,479 Speaker 1: It's Christmas Eve in LA. He's California. Well, we'll see 1641 01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:21,800 Speaker 1: what Santa and Mommy can do. Bay a New York cup. 1642 01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:28,639 Speaker 1: John McLean has come to see his wife. Instead, he's 1643 01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:35,280 Speaker 1: going to have to save her. Down within this skyscraper 1644 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,760 Speaker 1: high above the city, twelve terrorists have declared war and 1645 01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,920 Speaker 1: they're about to between the Left ander real use of 1646 01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:47,240 Speaker 1: parent there. It is brilliant. Okay, we get the idea. 1647 01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:51,000 Speaker 1: That's right, the original Diehard. Everybody now's the the the 1648 01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:56,120 Speaker 1: official trailer for it. The greatest Christmas movie of all time. 1649 01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,360 Speaker 1: You know, we all make jokes about this. Conservatives love 1650 01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,559 Speaker 1: to talk about how Diehard is the greatest movie. It's 1651 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,000 Speaker 1: my number one all time action movie. But it is 1652 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,240 Speaker 1: also just a fantastic movie in general. And yes, it 1653 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:11,200 Speaker 1: does entirely take place on Christmas Eve. What other movie 1654 01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:16,160 Speaker 1: can you say that? For? Now? There is this based 1655 01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,559 Speaker 1: on streaming data and I sent this to John too. 1656 01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:23,360 Speaker 1: There is this state by state comparison of based on 1657 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:27,040 Speaker 1: stream so based on what people really want to watch, 1658 01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:31,759 Speaker 1: what is their favorite Christmas movie by state? And Wow, 1659 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:33,920 Speaker 1: are there are some surprises on here. All right, let's 1660 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,360 Speaker 1: just John, I want to pass this to you of 1661 01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,640 Speaker 1: the map of US states, of all the movies that 1662 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,960 Speaker 1: are favorites for that state for Christmas movies, which one 1663 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,320 Speaker 1: did you find the most surprising. I'm looking at New 1664 01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,479 Speaker 1: York State because I was interested to see what that is. 1665 01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what the apartment is, John, I couldn't 1666 01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,240 Speaker 1: agree anymore. I don't even know what the heck the 1667 01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,639 Speaker 1: apartment is. This is a Christmas movie that I've never 1668 01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,640 Speaker 1: heard of, with the most boring name and the apartment. 1669 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,920 Speaker 1: I have to look this thing up. I don't even know. 1670 01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,479 Speaker 1: I was also, so you get the prize because I 1671 01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,040 Speaker 1: agree with you. Man, I know you're in New York, 1672 01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:09,360 Speaker 1: and I would have never guessed. I love. I know 1673 01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,040 Speaker 1: producer Mike is is cutting up some audio for the 1674 01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,880 Speaker 1: end of the show right now, but trading places for 1675 01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,439 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania because it all takes place in Philly. I like that. 1676 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,880 Speaker 1: I like it that Pennsylvania gives trading places with Eddie 1677 01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:26,280 Speaker 1: Murphy all do love because it does take place in Philadelphia. 1678 01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,920 Speaker 1: So you have that. The ones that the ones that 1679 01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,719 Speaker 1: really surprised me though, in terms of the amount of coverage. 1680 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,559 Speaker 1: First of all, die Hard is the favorite movie for 1681 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,840 Speaker 1: Christmas of Washington State. What Up Washington? Whoo, We're up? 1682 01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,799 Speaker 1: We're up on a Washington a couple of Washington State stations. 1683 01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:49,560 Speaker 1: And also die Hard is the favorite of Wisconsin. Hey, 1684 01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:54,679 Speaker 1: what's up Wisconsin? As well as Missouri. So Missouri, Washington 1685 01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:58,680 Speaker 1: State at Wisconsin love die Hard. And the one that 1686 01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:03,719 Speaker 1: surprised me though, was that Batman Returns the Tim Burton 1687 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,880 Speaker 1: version of Batman, the second Tim Burton Batman movie. That's 1688 01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 1: the number one in California and Florida. John, what do 1689 01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:10,559 Speaker 1: you think about that? I didn't see that one coming. 1690 01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:14,720 Speaker 1: Is it a warm weather thing that they like that movie? No, 1691 01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,120 Speaker 1: it's that's a fair question. But I mean two of 1692 01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,720 Speaker 1: our biggest our number one state by population, I think 1693 01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,280 Speaker 1: number four. I think Florida's number four, though I think 1694 01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:28,400 Speaker 1: Louisiana also is Batman Returns. Yeah, Louisiana is also in 1695 01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,599 Speaker 1: a Batman because, which I find I don't even think 1696 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,519 Speaker 1: of that as a Christmas movie, although it technically does 1697 01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,719 Speaker 1: have a whole Christmas snowing vibe. It's a very dark film, 1698 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,759 Speaker 1: by the way. I remember seeing it. Remember the Penguin 1699 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,360 Speaker 1: wants to like march all the children of Gotham into 1700 01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:45,720 Speaker 1: the into the icy sewer system. It was pretty it's 1701 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:50,640 Speaker 1: pretty rough. The Nightmare Before Christmas is a movie that 1702 01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:54,240 Speaker 1: people like in the Southwest. Edward Scissorhands, a lot of 1703 01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:58,240 Speaker 1: Tim Burton movies, Yeah, a lot of Tim Burton movies. 1704 01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,879 Speaker 1: Who knew that Tim Burton had such a profound effect 1705 01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:05,360 Speaker 1: on Christmas movie fair. Everyone listening to the show right now, 1706 01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,439 Speaker 1: I think, is like, what the heck? What about a 1707 01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,840 Speaker 1: Christmas story? What about Miracle on forty second Street? What 1708 01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:15,640 Speaker 1: about you know, go down all those classics, right, I 1709 01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:19,280 Speaker 1: mean even you know, Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer, the 1710 01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,800 Speaker 1: live action. I mean, none of that really seems to 1711 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:27,400 Speaker 1: get much. Gremlin's another one. The entire Southeastern like sec 1712 01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:32,080 Speaker 1: conference part of the country. You got, what is this? 1713 01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:38,360 Speaker 1: North Carolina, South Carolina, Alabama? All that is Gremlin's country, 1714 01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,600 Speaker 1: which is a shock Scrooge to also make some appearances 1715 01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,920 Speaker 1: on here. The only the only state that I say 1716 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,400 Speaker 1: country before I'm in state, The only state that has 1717 01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:54,000 Speaker 1: elf as it's number one is Kentucky, which I didn't 1718 01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:58,120 Speaker 1: realize that there was so much love for for for 1719 01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,680 Speaker 1: the movie Elf but to people like Elfred Kentucky. So 1720 01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 1: there you go, and there's some Oh my gosh, Massachusetts, 1721 01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:10,120 Speaker 1: love actually Massachusetts? What are you? What are you doing 1722 01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,000 Speaker 1: to me? You know, there's so much to love about Massachusetts. 1723 01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:17,040 Speaker 1: Boston's a great town, great sports teams, great food, amazing history. 1724 01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,360 Speaker 1: What are you doing to me with love actually is? 1725 01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,920 Speaker 1: And see the people who live in Boston who listen 1726 01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:25,000 Speaker 1: to this show, We're all like, buck, love actually is gobbage? 1727 01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,320 Speaker 1: And you know what, they're right, because love actually is gobbage. 1728 01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,840 Speaker 1: And I'm just glad that we can establish that. If 1729 01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,639 Speaker 1: producer Mike was here, I'd have them do a Philly 1730 01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:36,759 Speaker 1: accent for Trading Places, because we know the Trading Places 1731 01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,120 Speaker 1: is a Trading Places. A good movie I would offer 1732 01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:41,960 Speaker 1: to you. I just walked in. Hey, hey, you see 1733 01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,280 Speaker 1: the Trading Places? You got this map? John can show 1734 01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:48,599 Speaker 1: you Trading Places the number one film for Christmas for 1735 01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:52,080 Speaker 1: State of Pennsylvania. Yeah, man, I know that. That's actually 1736 01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,599 Speaker 1: part of it was filmed in the Billy my dadd 1737 01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,760 Speaker 1: used to work. I love that growing up. We so 1738 01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,360 Speaker 1: you always go down there and into that building and 1739 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,760 Speaker 1: in the lobby where he goes rolling in on his car, 1740 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,639 Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy. It's great. Want to do one of the great, 1741 01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,519 Speaker 1: one of the great Philly based its movies. It is 1742 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,840 Speaker 1: an amazing movie. I mean, I think Rocky is still 1743 01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:11,559 Speaker 1: number one, but trading places it's got to be like 1744 01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:15,000 Speaker 1: top five, absolutely not including historical dramas with you know, 1745 01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,360 Speaker 1: the Founding five. Yeah, Rocky's definitely won, but trade places 1746 01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:22,120 Speaker 1: as a strong Till there we go, it's spoken from Philadelphia. 1747 01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,880 Speaker 1: Mike himself comes in. Yo, Yo, lunch team. We got 1748 01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:32,920 Speaker 1: roll call up next. The show ain't over yet, folks. 1749 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:41,400 Speaker 1: It's time for roll call, Roll call time. Everybody hits Monday. 1750 01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:43,479 Speaker 1: I had a very fun weekend. I have to say, 1751 01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:48,719 Speaker 1: I miss Molly and I went to the Kennedy Center, 1752 01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,880 Speaker 1: and I have to admit to you all, despite it 1753 01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,720 Speaker 1: may make me sound like something of a savage, I 1754 01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,880 Speaker 1: lived in DC for years before and never once may 1755 01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,839 Speaker 1: to the Kennedy Center. This was my first ever Kennedy 1756 01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,439 Speaker 1: Center visit. Now, I've been more times than I can 1757 01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:11,559 Speaker 1: remember to the Metropolitan Opera in New York City, to 1758 01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:16,360 Speaker 1: Avery Fisher Hall, to those kinds of venues, but never 1759 01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,360 Speaker 1: made it to the Kennedy Center. We had a lovely time. 1760 01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:22,160 Speaker 1: It was definitely a kind of a family fair event. 1761 01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:26,680 Speaker 1: I'd say it was. It was Christmas music meant for 1762 01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,679 Speaker 1: families with kids and everything. But it was really nice 1763 01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:31,439 Speaker 1: and the woman I can remember her name who was 1764 01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:34,600 Speaker 1: the soloist, was incredible. They did a whole medley of 1765 01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:38,439 Speaker 1: the Christmas songs that you love to hate. But overall 1766 01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:39,920 Speaker 1: I think it was it was quite good. I have 1767 01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:41,320 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, and I enjoyed it in 1768 01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:44,599 Speaker 1: the Kennedy Center. Obviously a lot of fun stuff going 1769 01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:46,519 Speaker 1: on there. I'm gonna have to take Miss Molly back. 1770 01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:50,439 Speaker 1: We'll have to make another run to the Kennedy Center 1771 01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,320 Speaker 1: sometime soon. I enjoyed it, all right, Your thoughts not mine. 1772 01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:56,439 Speaker 1: Roll call time. The team is like, stop trespassing on 1773 01:40:56,479 --> 01:41:00,880 Speaker 1: our time. Buck, you get to talk for hours on end. Silence, 1774 01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:06,599 Speaker 1: you old windbag, you sexton re rights love your show. 1775 01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:10,599 Speaker 1: Podcast listener in Europe, Elibanser, I don't know why I'd 1776 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,639 Speaker 1: assume you're French. There's a lot of languages in Europe. 1777 01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,360 Speaker 1: When you have the dirsh on, could you ask him 1778 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:19,679 Speaker 1: why he defended Jeffrey Epstein in the International sex Trafficking 1779 01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,799 Speaker 1: case and why Alex Acosta gave Epstein a light sentence. 1780 01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:26,519 Speaker 1: Please thank you, Acosta. I don't really care what his 1781 01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,840 Speaker 1: excuse might be. What he did, what he allowed to 1782 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:36,680 Speaker 1: happen in the Epstein case is just simply unconscionable. I 1783 01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,679 Speaker 1: don't remember if Dersh was I guess he was involved 1784 01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,200 Speaker 1: somehow as a lawyer for Epstein, And I'm sure Dersh 1785 01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,200 Speaker 1: would just say that everyone is entitled to the best 1786 01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,679 Speaker 1: counsel they can get, and in reality that often turns 1787 01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:52,080 Speaker 1: into the best counsel they can afford. And if you 1788 01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:54,920 Speaker 1: are a billionaire, you can afford the dirsh. So that 1789 01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,160 Speaker 1: would be how I would assume he would answer that. 1790 01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:04,720 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, Tyler writes, just curious buck, what is your 1791 01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:08,240 Speaker 1: discount code for Black Rifle Coffee? Well, Tyler, the discount 1792 01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:12,080 Speaker 1: code is not really the thing. It's Black Riflecoffee dot 1793 01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:15,080 Speaker 1: com slash Buck. Just go to that page, guys. There's 1794 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:17,519 Speaker 1: really great t shirts. There, a lot of stuff there, 1795 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,240 Speaker 1: and the Black Rifle folks have been among the biggest 1796 01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:25,479 Speaker 1: supporters of the Freedom Hunt for a sponsor of Stalwart guys. 1797 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,200 Speaker 1: Awesome guys, So if you're looking to get it, you 1798 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,200 Speaker 1: know what you know what. It's really perfect for an 1799 01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,320 Speaker 1: office Christmas gift. If you want to hook somebody your 1800 01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:35,200 Speaker 1: office up with a great Christmas present and you don't 1801 01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:36,680 Speaker 1: know that much about them and you don't want to 1802 01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:40,000 Speaker 1: spend a ton of money, you know, send them black 1803 01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:42,479 Speaker 1: Rifle coffee for you know, a few months. Send them 1804 01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:45,120 Speaker 1: three months of black Rifle coffee. Send them six months 1805 01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:48,360 Speaker 1: of black Rifle coffee. I mean, there's they drink coffee. 1806 01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm assuming if you know that about them, you're in 1807 01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,240 Speaker 1: the office with them, then you're you're good to go. 1808 01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:55,000 Speaker 1: So just go to black Riflecoffee dot com slash buck. 1809 01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,479 Speaker 1: Let's push up some of those buys here going into 1810 01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:01,240 Speaker 1: the end of the holiday, or rather the holiday season. 1811 01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,840 Speaker 1: Richard writes, I do not care what kind of mood 1812 01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,880 Speaker 1: I've in when I hear your podcast, I smile, ear 1813 01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,320 Speaker 1: to ear kudos to you, brother. Have an awesome week. 1814 01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,719 Speaker 1: You know, Richard, you just made my day. I really 1815 01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,960 Speaker 1: mean that, Thank you. It's I put a lot into 1816 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:21,200 Speaker 1: this show. Every day. I show up sick, tired, angry, sad, 1817 01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:22,920 Speaker 1: you know you name it, and I show up and 1818 01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:24,759 Speaker 1: try to do the best show I can every day. 1819 01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:28,439 Speaker 1: And I spend most of my day preparing for this show. 1820 01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,960 Speaker 1: So if it is something that you look forward to 1821 01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:34,080 Speaker 1: every day, man, then mission accomplished from my end, and 1822 01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,400 Speaker 1: it makes it all worthwhile. So thank you so much. 1823 01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,680 Speaker 1: And you know you just made you just made my day, 1824 01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:42,760 Speaker 1: maybe my week two. Josh Wright Shield tie buck, it's 1825 01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:47,240 Speaker 1: my birthday, big five three. Thank you for combating the 1826 01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:51,439 Speaker 1: leftist evil. Keep the faith goodwins in the end, well, Josh, 1827 01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:54,080 Speaker 1: Happy belated my friend. I know this message came in 1828 01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:59,920 Speaker 1: over the weekend, but happy belated birthday to you fifty three. 1829 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,160 Speaker 1: You don't look a day over forty, my friend, So 1830 01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:05,720 Speaker 1: thank you for writing in, and I hope you had 1831 01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:09,720 Speaker 1: a great birthday, probably full of some delicious red meat 1832 01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:14,080 Speaker 1: and maybe some birthday cake, even of the glutinous variety. 1833 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,879 Speaker 1: Don writes, Could it be that the Flynn false statement 1834 01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:21,960 Speaker 1: is omission of facts during a conversation? False statement is 1835 01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,960 Speaker 1: ambiguous on items stated and items not stated. If I 1836 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,639 Speaker 1: was a natural security advisor, I would hold back details 1837 01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,719 Speaker 1: about my phone calls with random FBI people. If asked 1838 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:32,800 Speaker 1: about the content of the call, I would say this 1839 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:37,800 Speaker 1: and that when in doubt compartment compartmentalized information. Right is 1840 01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,360 Speaker 1: he even allowed to disclose details. I think it far 1841 01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,799 Speaker 1: more likely that Flynn omitted details rather than stated false details. 1842 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:47,559 Speaker 1: Don It's really tough to know, you know. Andie McCarthy 1843 01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:51,400 Speaker 1: did a very excellent rundown over the weekend on National 1844 01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:54,960 Speaker 1: Review of how he says it look Flynn probably lied, 1845 01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,160 Speaker 1: but they definitely set him up to get him in 1846 01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:00,519 Speaker 1: a lie that didn't really matter. But he that Flynn 1847 01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:03,479 Speaker 1: probably did lie. And you know the reason for that 1848 01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,360 Speaker 1: is maybe he was a little embarrassed that he had 1849 01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,920 Speaker 1: already lied publicly and figured he could lie to some FBI. 1850 01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:10,640 Speaker 1: I guess I'm just telling you what Andy said. And 1851 01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,000 Speaker 1: you hear Andy on this show regularly. You see him 1852 01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:16,280 Speaker 1: on Fox News regularly. You know, he's not some anti 1853 01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,000 Speaker 1: Trump zellot at all. In fact, he agrees with me 1854 01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,200 Speaker 1: a lot more now than he used to about what 1855 01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:26,719 Speaker 1: a scam the Special Counsel has turned into with regard 1856 01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,639 Speaker 1: to the politics, right. I mean, it's a very political instrument. 1857 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,200 Speaker 1: Andy was willing to with whole judgment on it, but 1858 01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:34,680 Speaker 1: he says, now, I'm sorry. You know, Flint is out 1859 01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:38,080 Speaker 1: Flynn is out there, you know, getting the rough stuff 1860 01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:41,799 Speaker 1: from Team Muller and the Office Special counsel is essentially 1861 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:45,360 Speaker 1: a scalphunting expedition. That's really what it has turned into. 1862 01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:48,080 Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be that. It's a shame, but 1863 01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:50,639 Speaker 1: that's where it is. So, I know, I think you're 1864 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:54,080 Speaker 1: don your theory about alive omission is possible. I think 1865 01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:57,160 Speaker 1: it more likely that Flynn probably just said something that 1866 01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,800 Speaker 1: he may be justified to himself as Oh, that's just 1867 01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:04,759 Speaker 1: my interpretation, you know. That's that's how I think about 1868 01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:09,920 Speaker 1: what I said to Ambassador Kisliak. But with the transcript there, 1869 01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:16,679 Speaker 1: they're able to snag him on inaccuracy. Lauren, right, it's 1870 01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,439 Speaker 1: I can't believe the FBI would allow agents to write 1871 01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:24,280 Speaker 1: three zero two's months after the fact. In nursing, we 1872 01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:26,799 Speaker 1: have a saying if it isn't charted, it didn't happen. 1873 01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,519 Speaker 1: So if we failed to chart, which means enter info 1874 01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,439 Speaker 1: into the medical record during our shift, every intervention that 1875 01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:35,080 Speaker 1: we performed during our shift, we were legally liable for 1876 01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:38,639 Speaker 1: any lack of patient care or any patient harm, even 1877 01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:41,120 Speaker 1: if in fact we had cared for the patient properly. 1878 01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:43,800 Speaker 1: I feel like the FBI, with as much power as 1879 01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:48,160 Speaker 1: they will, should at least be as accountable as nurses Laurd. 1880 01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:50,800 Speaker 1: I think that's an excellent point. Totally agree with you, 1881 01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:55,680 Speaker 1: and yes you are right, and this is a very 1882 01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:59,000 Speaker 1: thoughtful post you've written to me. Also, she wrote, maybe 1883 01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,320 Speaker 1: Lieutenant General Mike Lynch, you're just saying the meeting wasn't 1884 01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:06,679 Speaker 1: documented so it didn't happen. Boom Lord is dropping the knowledge. Sorry, 1885 01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't mean he yelling your ears, guys, I just 1886 01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:10,840 Speaker 1: realized that that probably went a little loud over the mic. 1887 01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,200 Speaker 1: I gotta watch that. I move around quite a bit 1888 01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,040 Speaker 1: during radio, so if you ever hear things sounds like 1889 01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,840 Speaker 1: a bumping, don't worry. It's okay. If the Freedom hut's 1890 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,439 Speaker 1: a rocking, you can come a knock in, because it 1891 01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:24,840 Speaker 1: just means that I'm moving around as I'm getting animated 1892 01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:28,280 Speaker 1: and talking on the radio. Nothing else going on in here, 1893 01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,760 Speaker 1: so you can you could always knock. I guess though 1894 01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:32,639 Speaker 1: none of you technically really visit me at the Freedom 1895 01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:34,680 Speaker 1: of which is probably for the best because it's it 1896 01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:38,680 Speaker 1: is a hut. It is small Paul right buck, if 1897 01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:41,520 Speaker 1: you've talked about this before, I missed it is Inspector 1898 01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,960 Speaker 1: General Horrow. It's a straight shooter. What is his rep 1899 01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:47,320 Speaker 1: around the alphabet soup agencies. Also, what the heck was 1900 01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:51,000 Speaker 1: wrong with your mic on Thursday? All that tapping sounded 1901 01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:53,639 Speaker 1: like you had Woody Woodpecker on for an interview. Paul, 1902 01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think what happened was I was moving 1903 01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:57,920 Speaker 1: around to the chair. It's funny. I didn't even know 1904 01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,600 Speaker 1: that that was going to be the next that was 1905 01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:02,800 Speaker 1: gonna be the next message we got to. But some 1906 01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:04,880 Speaker 1: of you pointed out that there was some tap tap 1907 01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:11,719 Speaker 1: tap tappy going on with the microphone tap tapperou And 1908 01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,080 Speaker 1: that was just me moving around a lot and bumping 1909 01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,280 Speaker 1: into the desk and bump into the mic. And this 1910 01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,280 Speaker 1: is one of my radio skills that I or radio 1911 01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:22,320 Speaker 1: technique things that I have to work on, is I'm 1912 01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,120 Speaker 1: used to TV wherehab a lapel mic and you can 1913 01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,120 Speaker 1: just sort of just move around and do whatever you want. 1914 01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:29,439 Speaker 1: And I like to slouch, I like to lean over 1915 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,040 Speaker 1: or I'm very I try to be h well, I 1916 01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,400 Speaker 1: probably should just sit up, ramrod back straight, but I 1917 01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:40,040 Speaker 1: have some some TV habits that blend over and that's 1918 01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:44,000 Speaker 1: probably not for the best. But that's what that tap 1919 01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:47,479 Speaker 1: tap a U was all about. Chris writes buck Love 1920 01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:51,519 Speaker 1: the show well Chris the Show loves You, please spend 1921 01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:54,920 Speaker 1: some time we talk about perjury traps defining lying. Most 1922 01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:58,439 Speaker 1: people assume a willful misrepresentation of the truth and intent 1923 01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:02,000 Speaker 1: in these cases, they include just being imprecise or even 1924 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,200 Speaker 1: an honest mistake. We talked with this in your show. 1925 01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,960 Speaker 1: Used the word lie can confuse people, even model a message. 1926 01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,559 Speaker 1: Even Andy McCarthy uses the word lie when he means 1927 01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:13,519 Speaker 1: innocent mistakes being construed as lies. Hopes this makes sense 1928 01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:16,120 Speaker 1: from Chris, you know, I think you raised an interesting 1929 01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:18,920 Speaker 1: point there. I mean is when is a lie a lie? 1930 01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,880 Speaker 1: And people who chuckle at that notion, people who think 1931 01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:25,360 Speaker 1: that's such a funny question, don't have a particularly sophisticated 1932 01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:29,639 Speaker 1: understanding of our legal system, of these statutes in play here, 1933 01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:35,320 Speaker 1: and of truth in general. When is it a memory lapse? 1934 01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:40,040 Speaker 1: When is it a difference of interpretation? When is it material? 1935 01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,360 Speaker 1: A lie is supposed to be material for it to 1936 01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,519 Speaker 1: be a chargeable offense. So that there's a lot of 1937 01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:47,360 Speaker 1: different ways that you can look at this problem, a 1938 01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:49,720 Speaker 1: lot different ways to slice it, and I think that 1939 01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:52,599 Speaker 1: we shouldntinue to ask those questions our team that's gonna 1940 01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,640 Speaker 1: be it from the Freedom hunt for today and with 1941 01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,360 Speaker 1: you every day this week, we're going to close out 1942 01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:00,800 Speaker 1: the holiday season strong. So used to join me here 1943 01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,599 Speaker 1: in the Hut and make sure you tell somebody at 1944 01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:07,000 Speaker 1: your at your Christmas gathering this year, like hey, what, 1945 01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,520 Speaker 1: hey man, what what shows you listen to? What podcasts 1946 01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,519 Speaker 1: are downloading? Tell everybody you know the Buck Sexton Show. 1947 01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,280 Speaker 1: That's the podcast they want to be in on until tomorrow. 1948 01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,040 Speaker 1: My friends, Shield's High