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Listener discretion is advised. 10 00:01:01,634 --> 00:01:06,194 Speaker 3: The Worlds of Pigeon podcast. 11 00:01:08,033 --> 00:01:09,913 Speaker 2: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 12 00:01:12,834 --> 00:01:16,994 Speaker 3: I've never heard of the stakes. 13 00:01:17,114 --> 00:01:21,634 Speaker 4: Good stuff just came out Baggy squash. 14 00:01:21,794 --> 00:01:23,794 Speaker 3: About four drinks. It was over one hundred. 15 00:01:23,554 --> 00:01:26,994 Speaker 4: Dollars for four drinks. Yeah, what was it? Holy smoke? Yeah, 16 00:01:27,274 --> 00:01:28,273 Speaker 4: you expence that, right. 17 00:01:28,674 --> 00:01:34,633 Speaker 3: We can't expense. I forgot my phone in the uber ochee, 18 00:01:34,753 --> 00:01:36,794 Speaker 3: so we had to call the uber driver and he 19 00:01:36,874 --> 00:01:39,274 Speaker 3: came back. I had to greased him. So it was 20 00:01:39,313 --> 00:01:40,434 Speaker 3: an expensive night for me. 21 00:01:41,114 --> 00:01:45,594 Speaker 5: For Freddy Plastic request for the newsletter. 22 00:01:45,634 --> 00:01:47,553 Speaker 3: Well you have to email, so I'm not gonna. I 23 00:01:47,554 --> 00:01:49,234 Speaker 3: don't take dictations, so. 24 00:01:49,674 --> 00:01:51,994 Speaker 6: For better or words, Bill had his tight twenty. 25 00:01:51,714 --> 00:01:57,634 Speaker 7: Six year old mom, twenty four year old mermaids. 26 00:01:57,914 --> 00:02:03,353 Speaker 8: You heard but you weekend as you say. 27 00:02:02,914 --> 00:02:08,233 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. 28 00:02:08,234 --> 00:02:12,353 Speaker 1: For deals, buy a Toyota dot com. 29 00:02:12,394 --> 00:02:14,554 Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 30 00:02:14,674 --> 00:02:15,434 Speaker 4: It is. 31 00:02:17,314 --> 00:02:21,074 Speaker 3: Wednesday here at Chilette Stadium, but it's really a Thursday. 32 00:02:21,514 --> 00:02:26,594 Speaker 3: But tomorrow's Thanksgiving, So in Patriots world, today is a Thursday, 33 00:02:26,754 --> 00:02:30,114 Speaker 3: but it's really a Wednesday. But it means that we 34 00:02:30,194 --> 00:02:33,874 Speaker 3: got picks today. So that's why Alex is here, So 35 00:02:33,914 --> 00:02:36,554 Speaker 3: we gotta hurry. Paul's here, Evan Andduce will be by 36 00:02:36,714 --> 00:02:38,754 Speaker 3: later when they get done with their locker room and 37 00:02:39,394 --> 00:02:42,714 Speaker 3: practice duties. So yeah, a lot going on. 38 00:02:42,834 --> 00:02:45,474 Speaker 4: There is a busy, busy couple of days. But you know, 39 00:02:45,514 --> 00:02:47,874 Speaker 4: it's good that you get a little chance to get 40 00:02:47,874 --> 00:02:49,194 Speaker 4: the holiday off. 41 00:02:49,874 --> 00:02:53,834 Speaker 3: I'll say it right now. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody, to 42 00:02:53,914 --> 00:02:56,594 Speaker 3: you and yours. Yeah, and I know, Alex you had 43 00:02:56,594 --> 00:03:00,034 Speaker 3: a special Thanksgiving poll that will be in the newsletter tomorrow. 44 00:03:00,274 --> 00:03:03,114 Speaker 9: Yeah, it'll be cute just waiting for Evan to you know, 45 00:03:03,354 --> 00:03:04,194 Speaker 9: answer the email. 46 00:03:05,634 --> 00:03:08,794 Speaker 4: That's very high maintenance. Yeah, yeah, who was the first 47 00:03:08,834 --> 00:03:09,434 Speaker 4: one to answer? 48 00:03:09,434 --> 00:03:10,594 Speaker 3: To the Millennial. 49 00:03:12,034 --> 00:03:13,634 Speaker 9: Paul like within minutes. 50 00:03:13,874 --> 00:03:16,794 Speaker 4: She sent it. Yeah, it's a busy week. People have 51 00:03:16,834 --> 00:03:17,514 Speaker 4: a lot of things to. 52 00:03:17,474 --> 00:03:19,834 Speaker 9: Do, and I appreciated that it is a busy week. 53 00:03:20,194 --> 00:03:23,394 Speaker 4: I also I normally would have already sent the picks, 54 00:03:23,634 --> 00:03:25,354 Speaker 4: but we had a request. Alex, I'm not sure if 55 00:03:25,354 --> 00:03:28,474 Speaker 4: you're aware of this. Someone would like to make note 56 00:03:29,114 --> 00:03:33,714 Speaker 4: of the Fred kursh lock of the week. So I'm 57 00:03:33,714 --> 00:03:36,034 Speaker 4: going to wait till we get the picks, and I'm 58 00:03:36,074 --> 00:03:38,994 Speaker 4: going to put a little asterisk fred Kurshed the lock 59 00:03:39,034 --> 00:03:39,994 Speaker 4: of the week if I have. 60 00:03:42,234 --> 00:03:42,834 Speaker 3: It's a feeling. 61 00:03:42,834 --> 00:03:45,274 Speaker 4: I don't want to force it week. 62 00:03:45,354 --> 00:03:48,074 Speaker 3: It's not a good feeling from what I don't know 63 00:03:48,154 --> 00:03:48,674 Speaker 3: the numbers. 64 00:03:48,674 --> 00:03:51,514 Speaker 4: I haven't sent it to you or jewels yet, which 65 00:03:51,554 --> 00:03:54,674 Speaker 4: I normally would have by now, but I'm just waiting 66 00:03:54,674 --> 00:03:55,554 Speaker 4: to see what Fred has. 67 00:03:55,554 --> 00:03:59,474 Speaker 3: We also need to talk about my top five hated list. 68 00:03:59,554 --> 00:04:01,354 Speaker 3: If we haven't gone over, there might. 69 00:04:01,274 --> 00:04:05,474 Speaker 4: Not be a bad place. No, we we keep teasing it, 70 00:04:05,514 --> 00:04:06,834 Speaker 4: but we haven't gotten to it. 71 00:04:06,834 --> 00:04:09,714 Speaker 3: It was good, so we should talk about that. I 72 00:04:09,714 --> 00:04:12,514 Speaker 3: don't remember what it is, so does anyone have the list? 73 00:04:13,434 --> 00:04:14,034 Speaker 9: You don't remember? 74 00:04:14,234 --> 00:04:16,074 Speaker 3: I know who's on it, but I remember the order 75 00:04:16,194 --> 00:04:16,513 Speaker 3: I remember. 76 00:04:16,594 --> 00:04:19,154 Speaker 4: Just say that the one team that no one really 77 00:04:19,234 --> 00:04:21,674 Speaker 4: ever brings up that I'm a little surprised about is 78 00:04:21,714 --> 00:04:24,274 Speaker 4: your number one most hated team, and that's Cincinnati R 79 00:04:24,993 --> 00:04:26,994 Speaker 4: right know. I think that's pretty clear if you listen 80 00:04:27,034 --> 00:04:29,113 Speaker 4: to Fred his disdain for the Bengals and the organ 81 00:04:29,154 --> 00:04:31,034 Speaker 4: and it wasn't always that way, and it wasn't always 82 00:04:31,074 --> 00:04:34,553 Speaker 4: that way, but they earned it, yep. And I in 83 00:04:34,594 --> 00:04:36,873 Speaker 4: this case, I love to love to argue with Fred, 84 00:04:36,914 --> 00:04:39,474 Speaker 4: as people know, I love to to bust you. 85 00:04:40,354 --> 00:04:42,993 Speaker 3: You want me to, But that wash should we do that? 86 00:04:43,193 --> 00:04:44,633 Speaker 3: Let's let's get into the news of the day. 87 00:04:44,873 --> 00:04:46,993 Speaker 9: Okay, Okay, I'm ready with it when you're ready. 88 00:04:47,234 --> 00:04:48,354 Speaker 3: So the news of the day. 89 00:04:48,513 --> 00:04:51,953 Speaker 4: So we heard from both Alex man Pelton to Marcus Covington. 90 00:04:52,394 --> 00:04:55,633 Speaker 4: I didn't think there was anything overly pressing from either one. 91 00:04:56,954 --> 00:05:00,913 Speaker 4: One item of interest to me was something that Evan 92 00:05:00,993 --> 00:05:06,073 Speaker 4: and I and Mike talked about yesterday about the blitzing 93 00:05:06,433 --> 00:05:10,113 Speaker 4: and the routes and whatnot. And you know, I had 94 00:05:10,154 --> 00:05:13,954 Speaker 4: asked Evan about that play with Tomorrio Douglas. It was 95 00:05:13,993 --> 00:05:16,553 Speaker 4: a play that he seemed to be open cutting toward 96 00:05:16,594 --> 00:05:20,433 Speaker 4: the middle looked like May thought he was gonna either 97 00:05:20,513 --> 00:05:24,474 Speaker 4: sit in a zone or maybe continue downfield or upfield 98 00:05:24,474 --> 00:05:30,034 Speaker 4: in this case. And I think Evan had talked to 99 00:05:30,034 --> 00:05:31,873 Speaker 4: some of the players and kind of so that they're 100 00:05:31,914 --> 00:05:36,753 Speaker 4: really not like sight adjustments and the hot routes and whatnot. 101 00:05:36,753 --> 00:05:39,633 Speaker 4: They're supposed to run their route as normal. Alex vnn 102 00:05:39,633 --> 00:05:41,873 Speaker 4: Pelt did not necessarily agree with that. 103 00:05:41,873 --> 00:05:42,633 Speaker 3: Oh what did he say? 104 00:05:43,034 --> 00:05:45,113 Speaker 4: He said that, you know, I think I think on 105 00:05:45,154 --> 00:05:48,274 Speaker 4: the particular play that they were asked about, he felt 106 00:05:48,313 --> 00:05:53,034 Speaker 4: like Douglas got a little bit antsy and and over 107 00:05:53,113 --> 00:05:55,274 Speaker 4: anxious and cut off the route before he was supposed 108 00:05:55,313 --> 00:05:58,353 Speaker 4: to went went to the inside a little bit further. 109 00:05:58,513 --> 00:06:02,313 Speaker 4: I think he was supposed to be like said, yeah, 110 00:06:02,394 --> 00:06:04,434 Speaker 4: could be yeah, yeah. I think it was supposed to 111 00:06:04,433 --> 00:06:06,154 Speaker 4: be like five steps, and he cut it off at 112 00:06:06,193 --> 00:06:08,474 Speaker 4: like three, and that's what caused the timing to be off. 113 00:06:08,513 --> 00:06:11,234 Speaker 4: And and Alex talked a lot about the importance of 114 00:06:11,513 --> 00:06:13,474 Speaker 4: you know, this is not street yard football. And this 115 00:06:13,594 --> 00:06:16,914 Speaker 4: was an unrelated answer. This wasn't in related relation to 116 00:06:16,954 --> 00:06:21,674 Speaker 4: that blitz, but just the precise nature of the offense, 117 00:06:21,753 --> 00:06:24,674 Speaker 4: the timing where you're supposed to be and when is 118 00:06:24,794 --> 00:06:27,034 Speaker 4: very import and they're not just out there running routes 119 00:06:27,073 --> 00:06:29,594 Speaker 4: and trying to get open. You need to be open 120 00:06:29,594 --> 00:06:30,594 Speaker 4: where you're supposed to go. 121 00:06:30,674 --> 00:06:34,433 Speaker 3: Make sure that Evan knows that his evaluation. 122 00:06:34,034 --> 00:06:37,034 Speaker 4: Was it wasn't. But in fairness to Evan and I would, 123 00:06:37,113 --> 00:06:39,273 Speaker 4: you know, as you guys know, I would trash Evan 124 00:06:39,354 --> 00:06:41,593 Speaker 4: is going off of something that he was told by players, 125 00:06:42,753 --> 00:06:47,314 Speaker 4: not something that he observed, and we will talk about that. 126 00:06:47,274 --> 00:06:50,274 Speaker 3: A little then later. Then the players don't know what 127 00:06:50,313 --> 00:06:50,794 Speaker 3: they're doing. 128 00:06:51,354 --> 00:06:54,833 Speaker 4: I've said this to you often, and this is one 129 00:06:54,834 --> 00:06:57,994 Speaker 4: of the problems with the way it's done. Now. By it, 130 00:06:58,073 --> 00:07:02,113 Speaker 4: I mean journalism in general. Yes, when someone tells you something, 131 00:07:02,633 --> 00:07:06,674 Speaker 4: it is always taking as gospel. Players will tell you 132 00:07:06,753 --> 00:07:10,034 Speaker 4: what makes the players look in the best possible light. 133 00:07:10,194 --> 00:07:10,473 Speaker 3: YEP. 134 00:07:12,154 --> 00:07:14,393 Speaker 4: Coaches will do the same. So I'm not telling you 135 00:07:14,434 --> 00:07:17,354 Speaker 4: that Alex is right and the player was wrong. I'm 136 00:07:17,394 --> 00:07:19,833 Speaker 4: just telling you you have two different schools of thought 137 00:07:19,874 --> 00:07:22,514 Speaker 4: on what you're supposed to do on the blitz or 138 00:07:22,554 --> 00:07:24,314 Speaker 4: in a hot route or whatever the coach may be. 139 00:07:25,394 --> 00:07:29,594 Speaker 4: My point is what I'm saying. Like my point, I'll 140 00:07:29,634 --> 00:07:31,754 Speaker 4: take it in a different direction so we can get 141 00:07:31,754 --> 00:07:33,674 Speaker 4: off the Patriots Okay, all right. Do you happen to 142 00:07:33,674 --> 00:07:37,273 Speaker 4: see the thing over the weekend with Ian Rappaport talking about, 143 00:07:37,354 --> 00:07:40,034 Speaker 4: oh he got used or something like that. I don't 144 00:07:40,034 --> 00:07:43,153 Speaker 4: know the Tillarkey did him dirty. You know, when he 145 00:07:43,274 --> 00:07:46,114 Speaker 4: was about to be fired for the Titans. Rappaport had 146 00:07:46,114 --> 00:07:49,234 Speaker 4: been reporting that that was after the loss. There was 147 00:07:49,794 --> 00:07:51,713 Speaker 4: a good chance that Tennessee was going to go in 148 00:07:51,754 --> 00:07:55,273 Speaker 4: a different direction, make the move. So Malarkey ended up 149 00:07:55,314 --> 00:07:58,554 Speaker 4: picking up the phone and calling Rappaport and saying, they're 150 00:07:58,594 --> 00:08:00,994 Speaker 4: going to offer me a five year contract extension. I'm 151 00:08:01,034 --> 00:08:05,834 Speaker 4: staying he Now, Malarkey did this because he was really 152 00:08:05,874 --> 00:08:09,393 Speaker 4: annoyed with the ownership of the Titans at the time 153 00:08:09,434 --> 00:08:11,114 Speaker 4: and he wanted to sort of he said, I want 154 00:08:11,114 --> 00:08:13,034 Speaker 4: to see their faces when they see this, and blah 155 00:08:13,034 --> 00:08:15,713 Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. He did Rappaport dirty. 156 00:08:15,794 --> 00:08:17,153 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not good. 157 00:08:18,274 --> 00:08:22,314 Speaker 4: It's been portrayed like what a bad guy Malarkey is 158 00:08:22,594 --> 00:08:31,034 Speaker 4: and how Rappaport did. I agree, Malarkey did him a disservice. Yeah, 159 00:08:31,194 --> 00:08:33,594 Speaker 4: one person tells you something, you don't pick up the 160 00:08:33,594 --> 00:08:34,554 Speaker 4: phone and call the Titans. 161 00:08:34,754 --> 00:08:37,833 Speaker 3: But wait a minute, now, you're right you should at least, 162 00:08:37,874 --> 00:08:41,234 Speaker 3: But this is the principle. This is the person telling 163 00:08:41,274 --> 00:08:43,714 Speaker 3: you I understand. This isn't somebody telling you I heard. 164 00:08:43,994 --> 00:08:44,634 Speaker 3: This is the. 165 00:08:44,714 --> 00:08:45,714 Speaker 4: Person I understand. 166 00:08:45,834 --> 00:08:46,194 Speaker 3: Principle. 167 00:08:46,234 --> 00:08:50,034 Speaker 4: That's why I said Malarkey did him dirty. Yeah, but 168 00:08:50,874 --> 00:08:54,354 Speaker 4: I was taught when you get information, you verify it. 169 00:08:54,594 --> 00:08:59,754 Speaker 10: Yeah, evidently that's not a big thing, because, like, I 170 00:08:59,794 --> 00:09:03,754 Speaker 10: don't know how you just automatically assume whatever everybody tells 171 00:09:03,794 --> 00:09:04,794 Speaker 10: you was the gospel. 172 00:09:06,154 --> 00:09:08,794 Speaker 4: I understand it came from the horse's mouth. Right, So 173 00:09:08,834 --> 00:09:10,994 Speaker 4: you go to Tennessee and say, hey, so you guys 174 00:09:10,994 --> 00:09:13,234 Speaker 4: are gonna stick with him? What are you talking about? 175 00:09:13,434 --> 00:09:16,594 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, well that's what that's what If he's done that, 176 00:09:16,594 --> 00:09:18,314 Speaker 3: that's the way it's supposed to be done. He would 177 00:09:18,314 --> 00:09:19,234 Speaker 3: have saved himself with VI. 178 00:09:19,434 --> 00:09:22,514 Speaker 4: I just don't think anybody really explored that side of 179 00:09:22,554 --> 00:09:23,514 Speaker 4: that story. 180 00:09:23,354 --> 00:09:26,713 Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, Okay, it's too comfortable interesting. 181 00:09:26,794 --> 00:09:29,194 Speaker 4: So, like in other words, even when you think you're 182 00:09:29,194 --> 00:09:32,274 Speaker 4: getting it right from the person involved, it might be 183 00:09:32,474 --> 00:09:36,194 Speaker 4: his version of what happens, and not necessarily the version 184 00:09:36,274 --> 00:09:36,834 Speaker 4: that happened. 185 00:09:37,194 --> 00:09:41,194 Speaker 9: I missed the days of besides being presented and readers 186 00:09:41,354 --> 00:09:45,114 Speaker 9: decide what it is with the information in front of them. 187 00:09:46,474 --> 00:09:49,114 Speaker 3: Lost Art apologized to him. 188 00:09:49,434 --> 00:09:51,274 Speaker 4: No, he was laughing about it on the podcast. That's 189 00:09:51,274 --> 00:09:51,953 Speaker 4: how this came out. 190 00:09:52,754 --> 00:09:53,074 Speaker 3: Wow. 191 00:09:53,234 --> 00:09:55,594 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I have no like, no respect at all 192 00:09:55,594 --> 00:09:58,114 Speaker 4: for what Malarkey did. Don't please, don't mistake this. And 193 00:09:58,274 --> 00:10:00,754 Speaker 4: and I do feel bad as a journalist. I feel 194 00:10:00,754 --> 00:10:03,914 Speaker 4: bad for Ian because you're right when you get it direct. 195 00:10:03,914 --> 00:10:05,674 Speaker 4: You know, if Bill Belichick told me last year he 196 00:10:05,754 --> 00:10:09,593 Speaker 4: was staying, I would have said, Bill Belichick says he's staying. 197 00:10:09,634 --> 00:10:13,194 Speaker 9: And now credit his credibility is in question when I 198 00:10:13,274 --> 00:10:14,074 Speaker 9: mean a little bit. 199 00:10:14,114 --> 00:10:16,114 Speaker 4: It's so I do feel bad, you know, but he 200 00:10:16,194 --> 00:10:20,194 Speaker 4: should have done more than just taking it as the 201 00:10:20,234 --> 00:10:20,914 Speaker 4: gospel truth. 202 00:10:21,874 --> 00:10:24,834 Speaker 3: Very interesting anyway, Yeah, anyway, all. 203 00:10:24,794 --> 00:10:29,074 Speaker 4: Right, So not much from Covington. Talked a lot about communication, 204 00:10:29,314 --> 00:10:32,554 Speaker 4: which we talked about a lot yesterday on the secondary. 205 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:37,394 Speaker 4: A lot of questions about Kyle Dugger being asked both 206 00:10:37,434 --> 00:10:41,394 Speaker 4: to Mayo and to Covington today about his ankle, and 207 00:10:41,434 --> 00:10:43,354 Speaker 4: they also they both said the same thing, you know, 208 00:10:43,394 --> 00:10:46,234 Speaker 4: and if you're out there and you're cleared to go, 209 00:10:46,434 --> 00:10:48,554 Speaker 4: you're expected to play and play at a high level. 210 00:10:49,514 --> 00:10:52,354 Speaker 4: And Covington didn't say that Dougger didn't play at a 211 00:10:52,394 --> 00:10:55,994 Speaker 4: high level, but just not using an ankle injury or 212 00:10:56,074 --> 00:10:57,794 Speaker 4: potential ankle injury as an excuse. 213 00:10:57,954 --> 00:11:00,434 Speaker 3: Well, was he on the. 214 00:10:59,674 --> 00:11:01,434 Speaker 4: Well, he had missed a couple of games, but he's 215 00:11:01,434 --> 00:11:03,834 Speaker 4: been back. He's been back the last two games. 216 00:11:03,874 --> 00:11:05,394 Speaker 3: No, but was he on the report? 217 00:11:06,034 --> 00:11:07,434 Speaker 4: I don't know the most recent report. 218 00:11:07,434 --> 00:11:08,954 Speaker 3: You get in trouble if he's hurt and he's not 219 00:11:08,954 --> 00:11:09,514 Speaker 3: on the report. 220 00:11:09,634 --> 00:11:11,794 Speaker 4: So yeah, but he played the last two games. 221 00:11:11,954 --> 00:11:13,794 Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. 222 00:11:13,834 --> 00:11:15,674 Speaker 4: So whether he's hurt or not, he played, I know, 223 00:11:16,634 --> 00:11:20,314 Speaker 4: is the point? Okay, Like Dietrich Wise is on the 224 00:11:20,354 --> 00:11:22,594 Speaker 4: injury report also, but he didn't play. 225 00:11:22,914 --> 00:11:23,194 Speaker 3: Yep. 226 00:11:23,674 --> 00:11:27,074 Speaker 4: So like obviously his ankle injury or whatever his injury 227 00:11:27,154 --> 00:11:29,954 Speaker 4: is isn't as severe right now as daughters. 228 00:11:31,274 --> 00:11:33,114 Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel like something's going on there. 229 00:11:34,914 --> 00:11:38,754 Speaker 3: Well, everybody to a person said that it was a 230 00:11:38,834 --> 00:11:40,314 Speaker 3: terrible game for Kyle Duggar. 231 00:11:40,594 --> 00:11:42,674 Speaker 4: Oh he didn't play, Well, yeah didn't. He's a better 232 00:11:42,674 --> 00:11:44,354 Speaker 4: player than that, Yeah, no question. 233 00:11:44,834 --> 00:11:47,274 Speaker 3: So we got to get him. We got to get 234 00:11:47,354 --> 00:11:55,954 Speaker 3: him right, we need him. Pepper started practicing. Doubt he'll play. 235 00:11:54,554 --> 00:11:59,154 Speaker 4: This week, So I honestly have no clue. Yeah, I 236 00:11:59,154 --> 00:12:02,434 Speaker 4: don't know what to think of that I don't either. Oh, 237 00:12:02,514 --> 00:12:05,714 Speaker 4: they did make a roster move, yeah, they like we 238 00:12:05,794 --> 00:12:07,514 Speaker 4: probably should have talked about that. They let go of 239 00:12:07,674 --> 00:12:10,874 Speaker 4: a starting left guard in Michael Jordan, which I find 240 00:12:10,914 --> 00:12:13,354 Speaker 4: a little odd. Now might get they claim somebody off 241 00:12:13,354 --> 00:12:18,154 Speaker 4: Waivers Cotton. Say his name Cotton? 242 00:12:18,354 --> 00:12:19,274 Speaker 3: Yeap Ben Cotton. 243 00:12:19,754 --> 00:12:23,954 Speaker 4: No, that doesn't sound right, Dan Cotton. 244 00:12:24,074 --> 00:12:24,914 Speaker 9: It's definitely cotton. 245 00:12:24,954 --> 00:12:29,314 Speaker 3: Something was it was like three, I don't know, let's see. 246 00:12:29,314 --> 00:12:31,674 Speaker 4: I think I have it somewhere. I guess I know 247 00:12:34,154 --> 00:12:37,114 Speaker 4: it was lester less cotton less cotton, less. 248 00:12:36,874 --> 00:12:39,154 Speaker 3: Cotton, more wool. 249 00:12:39,314 --> 00:12:44,194 Speaker 4: Right, Okay, so I I they did this. This is, 250 00:12:44,234 --> 00:12:46,674 Speaker 4: in my opinion, the third time they've made a similar 251 00:12:46,754 --> 00:12:50,674 Speaker 4: kind of transaction this season. They did it with Nick Leverett, 252 00:12:51,314 --> 00:12:54,914 Speaker 4: who had started and played like every game, every snap, 253 00:12:55,514 --> 00:12:57,834 Speaker 4: didn't play well, did not play well, and then he 254 00:12:57,874 --> 00:13:03,354 Speaker 4: got cut like the following day. More recently, Marco Wilson 255 00:13:03,474 --> 00:13:07,274 Speaker 4: played a big role in the Rams game and then 256 00:13:07,394 --> 00:13:10,914 Speaker 4: was cut, you know, the following day or whatever. And 257 00:13:10,954 --> 00:13:13,994 Speaker 4: now the same thing happens with Michael Jordan. I made 258 00:13:14,034 --> 00:13:16,714 Speaker 4: a comment yesterday that I stand by. I don't think 259 00:13:16,714 --> 00:13:19,274 Speaker 4: Michael Jordan's played well, but I think he's probably been 260 00:13:19,314 --> 00:13:21,754 Speaker 4: their second best lineman behind a win. 261 00:13:22,114 --> 00:13:23,194 Speaker 3: I have no idea, but. 262 00:13:24,674 --> 00:13:27,754 Speaker 4: He struck. I mean, and I think that those guys, 263 00:13:27,794 --> 00:13:31,154 Speaker 4: the interior guys in particular, Brett Ben Brown and Michael Jordan, 264 00:13:31,514 --> 00:13:35,474 Speaker 4: really seem to struggle with those games up front, those stunts, 265 00:13:35,634 --> 00:13:39,234 Speaker 4: yep twists, and Alex van Pel talked about those a 266 00:13:39,274 --> 00:13:43,154 Speaker 4: lot today as well. So my guess is this is 267 00:13:43,194 --> 00:13:45,594 Speaker 4: to pave the way for Cole Strange to get back 268 00:13:45,594 --> 00:13:48,394 Speaker 4: on the active roster. We'll see what happens as this 269 00:13:48,434 --> 00:13:52,194 Speaker 4: week unfolds, but I think that's good news if that's 270 00:13:52,234 --> 00:13:54,594 Speaker 4: what it is, because obviously you want to see Strange play. 271 00:13:54,674 --> 00:13:57,034 Speaker 4: He's a former first round pick and you have more 272 00:13:57,074 --> 00:13:59,754 Speaker 4: invested in him than Michael Jordan. But I did find 273 00:13:59,794 --> 00:14:03,394 Speaker 4: it a little interesting that guys that are playing significant 274 00:14:03,474 --> 00:14:05,714 Speaker 4: roles are going from playing a significant role in one 275 00:14:05,754 --> 00:14:08,474 Speaker 4: gaming being released immediately. That's the third time that's happened. 276 00:14:08,514 --> 00:14:10,834 Speaker 9: That is really weird, and that's why it makes you like, 277 00:14:10,874 --> 00:14:13,194 Speaker 9: to your point, you hope that it is cold strange 278 00:14:13,234 --> 00:14:16,074 Speaker 9: coming because I know it's not going well right now, 279 00:14:16,114 --> 00:14:19,394 Speaker 9: but to blow it up all over again, put another 280 00:14:19,434 --> 00:14:22,834 Speaker 9: cast of guys in there with no real experience together, 281 00:14:23,034 --> 00:14:26,594 Speaker 9: like the continuit. We haven't had any continue all season 282 00:14:26,634 --> 00:14:29,914 Speaker 9: with the line, so it's like, hopefully it's a guy 283 00:14:29,954 --> 00:14:33,474 Speaker 9: that like Cole getting better, getting plugged in to at 284 00:14:33,554 --> 00:14:35,074 Speaker 9: least build some rapport there. 285 00:14:35,114 --> 00:14:36,154 Speaker 3: There is no best five. 286 00:14:36,994 --> 00:14:39,274 Speaker 4: They don't know, Yeah, and I do think the best 287 00:14:39,314 --> 00:14:41,994 Speaker 4: case would be what Alex said though, is have Cole 288 00:14:42,034 --> 00:14:44,154 Speaker 4: Strange play, so at least you have five games for 289 00:14:44,274 --> 00:14:46,194 Speaker 4: him to sort of Okay, what do we have here? 290 00:14:46,634 --> 00:14:49,434 Speaker 4: You know we'll be through three years. They have to 291 00:14:49,434 --> 00:14:52,034 Speaker 4: make a decision on him, you know, coming up in 292 00:14:52,074 --> 00:14:54,474 Speaker 4: the next offseason about his fifty year option. I would 293 00:14:54,474 --> 00:14:57,354 Speaker 4: think that would be a long shot. But what exactly 294 00:14:57,354 --> 00:14:59,594 Speaker 4: do we have in Cole Strange? And I know five 295 00:14:59,634 --> 00:15:01,554 Speaker 4: games after such a long absence is going to be 296 00:15:01,594 --> 00:15:05,314 Speaker 4: hard to make that determination. But it's better than no games, yep, 297 00:15:06,354 --> 00:15:08,714 Speaker 4: So that's my guess. You know, they haven't made a 298 00:15:08,754 --> 00:15:11,714 Speaker 4: corresponding move, but they released Michael Jordan, they claimed a 299 00:15:11,794 --> 00:15:15,914 Speaker 4: guard off Waivers Less Cotton. We'll see if this has 300 00:15:15,954 --> 00:15:17,154 Speaker 4: anything to do with Cole Strange. 301 00:15:17,154 --> 00:15:22,314 Speaker 3: Eventually, who's teams that the Ravens again? What team did 302 00:15:22,314 --> 00:15:28,954 Speaker 3: they claim him from when they When I heard the Miami, Miami, Right, Miami, 303 00:15:28,994 --> 00:15:33,674 Speaker 3: it was right. I knew. It's like, oh, they claimed 304 00:15:33,674 --> 00:15:36,554 Speaker 3: the team that the player from a team that from 305 00:15:36,594 --> 00:15:41,114 Speaker 3: the AFC. Okay, so we'll see what happens. 306 00:15:41,354 --> 00:15:43,474 Speaker 4: So they're still tinkering, they're still looking for you know, 307 00:15:43,514 --> 00:15:45,954 Speaker 4: and it's not surprising to me that they're bringing in 308 00:15:45,994 --> 00:15:49,754 Speaker 4: so many young offensive linemen. Just maybe they find a 309 00:15:49,754 --> 00:15:52,234 Speaker 4: diamond in the rough. You know, maybe there's some some 310 00:15:52,714 --> 00:15:55,474 Speaker 4: you know, former fourth, fifth, sixth round pick you're running 311 00:15:55,474 --> 00:15:57,674 Speaker 4: out of had a chance, but you know, just someone 312 00:15:57,714 --> 00:16:00,714 Speaker 4: because they need a lot of linemen. Yeah, they need 313 00:16:00,754 --> 00:16:02,874 Speaker 4: a lot of linemen, not just the starters. They need 314 00:16:02,874 --> 00:16:04,674 Speaker 4: a lot of them. 315 00:16:04,794 --> 00:16:08,794 Speaker 3: Let's see Eric and fort mean Maryland. A couple of things. 316 00:16:08,794 --> 00:16:11,034 Speaker 3: He says. First, I love the pick segment. In fact, 317 00:16:11,074 --> 00:16:13,394 Speaker 3: make the whole Thursday show a two hour pick segment. 318 00:16:13,954 --> 00:16:15,594 Speaker 4: Fred would absolutely shine. 319 00:16:15,674 --> 00:16:17,434 Speaker 3: And he wants to talk about the O line. So 320 00:16:17,514 --> 00:16:20,594 Speaker 3: I figured I'd read this email. Uh, if Ben Brown 321 00:16:20,674 --> 00:16:22,834 Speaker 3: goes down, who's taking the snaps for the rest. 322 00:16:22,674 --> 00:16:25,914 Speaker 4: Of the game, See my guest right now would be 323 00:16:25,914 --> 00:16:28,754 Speaker 4: cold strange. But they have to get him activated too. 324 00:16:28,834 --> 00:16:32,994 Speaker 4: That's a good question. I don't know which ones of 325 00:16:33,074 --> 00:16:36,594 Speaker 4: those guys. You know, I think one of them and 326 00:16:36,874 --> 00:16:40,994 Speaker 4: Alex she might help me with the name is Latitis Lativity, 327 00:16:41,714 --> 00:16:44,954 Speaker 4: Lativius Smith or something like that. I think he's got center. 328 00:16:45,154 --> 00:16:47,634 Speaker 3: Marcus Jones textedt a VP said he could snap. 329 00:16:49,834 --> 00:16:55,154 Speaker 4: I think one of the offensive linemen that they signed 330 00:16:55,234 --> 00:16:57,514 Speaker 4: during the course of the season, I think has experienced 331 00:16:57,514 --> 00:16:59,354 Speaker 4: at center, and I think it's it's that. 332 00:17:00,154 --> 00:17:02,514 Speaker 3: A second question. I keep hearing that a lot of 333 00:17:02,514 --> 00:17:07,314 Speaker 3: the false start penalties are on the h What exactly 334 00:17:07,394 --> 00:17:09,594 Speaker 3: can Peter's a VP and Mayo do during the week 335 00:17:09,634 --> 00:17:11,714 Speaker 3: to solve this. I've never watched a practice, so is 336 00:17:11,754 --> 00:17:14,234 Speaker 3: there some kind of drill they do or should do 337 00:17:14,674 --> 00:17:17,954 Speaker 3: that would improve the old lines awareness of the snap count. 338 00:17:18,954 --> 00:17:21,154 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think it's as much on the coaches 339 00:17:21,154 --> 00:17:24,474 Speaker 4: as the players, But I do think at some point, 340 00:17:24,594 --> 00:17:30,273 Speaker 4: when mistakes and problems become repetitious, something needs to be done. 341 00:17:30,474 --> 00:17:32,793 Speaker 4: I think in terms of playing time, in terms of 342 00:17:33,033 --> 00:17:36,234 Speaker 4: you know, in practice, we saw for twenty plus years 343 00:17:36,313 --> 00:17:38,313 Speaker 4: every time a guy had a false start, he was 344 00:17:38,353 --> 00:17:40,234 Speaker 4: sent for a lap that didn't. That was not the 345 00:17:40,273 --> 00:17:44,914 Speaker 4: case this summer. Sometimes they ran, sometimes they didn't. So 346 00:17:45,154 --> 00:17:47,474 Speaker 4: I do think that there's some accountability. But I don't 347 00:17:47,474 --> 00:17:50,354 Speaker 4: put that on the coaches. I don't put false starts. 348 00:17:50,434 --> 00:17:52,634 Speaker 4: I mean pre snap penalties. You need to be able 349 00:17:52,634 --> 00:17:53,474 Speaker 4: to stay on side. 350 00:17:53,553 --> 00:17:56,633 Speaker 3: Well, the question is is this thing happening in practice? 351 00:17:56,714 --> 00:17:58,914 Speaker 4: Well, they said, Alex said today it did, and it 352 00:17:58,954 --> 00:18:03,073 Speaker 4: happened a lot in practice this week. Yeah, Alex van. 353 00:18:03,033 --> 00:18:10,113 Speaker 3: Pelt, Oh, Alex, Yeah, I don't know. So Alex, what 354 00:18:10,154 --> 00:18:11,754 Speaker 3: did you say you meant you meant last week? 355 00:18:12,114 --> 00:18:14,234 Speaker 4: Last week before the Miami game, I felt like they 356 00:18:14,234 --> 00:18:17,913 Speaker 4: had happened. Yeah, okay, he said he felt like the 357 00:18:17,954 --> 00:18:20,594 Speaker 4: offense took, you know, a significant step back. He goes, 358 00:18:20,634 --> 00:18:22,554 Speaker 4: he felt like they had been building. Now we took 359 00:18:22,593 --> 00:18:24,634 Speaker 4: a step back. We need to get back to the building. 360 00:18:25,434 --> 00:18:29,114 Speaker 9: Everyone's like upset that, like, oh, in Bill's regime, he'd 361 00:18:29,114 --> 00:18:32,194 Speaker 9: be benched, But it's like, who do you bench him for? 362 00:18:32,793 --> 00:18:35,074 Speaker 9: Even back then at the beginning of the season. Never mind. 363 00:18:35,154 --> 00:18:37,954 Speaker 4: Now, See, for me, it's really not about the option 364 00:18:39,033 --> 00:18:43,674 Speaker 4: as much as it is you got to make a stand. 365 00:18:44,874 --> 00:18:47,994 Speaker 4: I need to have someone play who doesn't think, well, 366 00:18:48,033 --> 00:18:49,953 Speaker 4: he can't bench me because he has no one behind me. 367 00:18:50,394 --> 00:18:52,994 Speaker 4: You understand what I'm saying. Yeah, but I gotta put 368 00:18:52,994 --> 00:18:57,073 Speaker 4: a lesser player in now, I didn't always agree with Bill. 369 00:18:57,474 --> 00:19:01,073 Speaker 4: I'm going to be in full disclosure here when Bill 370 00:19:01,114 --> 00:19:03,793 Speaker 4: did it to ramondre Stevens and it drove me insane. 371 00:19:03,513 --> 00:19:05,434 Speaker 3: Right, you were upset about that as a rookie. 372 00:19:05,474 --> 00:19:07,674 Speaker 4: I felt like he cost the team games. I think 373 00:19:07,714 --> 00:19:10,674 Speaker 4: Bill's premise was I'm okay with losing games because in 374 00:19:10,714 --> 00:19:12,234 Speaker 4: the long run, I'm going to be better off for it. 375 00:19:12,513 --> 00:19:15,154 Speaker 4: I think that's how Bill felt about it. I disagreed 376 00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:16,794 Speaker 4: with it at the time. I think that they might 377 00:19:16,833 --> 00:19:19,874 Speaker 4: have been in a better spot had Ramondre Stevenson played 378 00:19:19,874 --> 00:19:23,394 Speaker 4: a bigger role early in the twenty one season when 379 00:19:23,394 --> 00:19:25,833 Speaker 4: he was sort of banished for the first month. Have 380 00:19:25,874 --> 00:19:29,754 Speaker 4: the frumbling in the opener, yeap, So I get both sides. 381 00:19:29,754 --> 00:19:31,273 Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying. Who do you go to? 382 00:19:31,593 --> 00:19:33,873 Speaker 9: That's a great question, al, But now you have like 383 00:19:34,994 --> 00:19:37,593 Speaker 9: it's a lot different when the protection is of a 384 00:19:37,674 --> 00:19:40,593 Speaker 9: rookie quarterback who, I mean, how much do we have 385 00:19:40,674 --> 00:19:41,234 Speaker 9: invested in. 386 00:19:41,434 --> 00:19:45,394 Speaker 4: Organization is protection? That would be my You know, you're 387 00:19:45,434 --> 00:19:46,634 Speaker 4: not taken and. 388 00:19:46,593 --> 00:19:48,953 Speaker 9: That's why I think you're look at different look at 389 00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:53,313 Speaker 9: it differently. It's no longer one guy within it like 390 00:19:53,634 --> 00:19:56,474 Speaker 9: we haven't had great old lines all through Bill's tenure. 391 00:19:56,593 --> 00:19:58,394 Speaker 9: But I don't think it was ever this bad, right, 392 00:19:58,474 --> 00:20:01,953 Speaker 9: Like this is kind of together with like rubber bands 393 00:20:01,954 --> 00:20:02,673 Speaker 9: and buttons, right, A. 394 00:20:02,674 --> 00:20:05,033 Speaker 4: Lot of different combinations, a lot of injuries. I know 395 00:20:05,114 --> 00:20:06,194 Speaker 4: we can't change. 396 00:20:06,353 --> 00:20:09,793 Speaker 3: I know we can't say anything about Drake, but could 397 00:20:09,793 --> 00:20:12,633 Speaker 3: there be something about his cadence that isn't consistent? 398 00:20:13,954 --> 00:20:17,193 Speaker 4: Well, the false stars were probably pre set too, though. Okay, 399 00:20:17,793 --> 00:20:20,153 Speaker 4: you know, like that was all summer and that was 400 00:20:20,194 --> 00:20:21,474 Speaker 4: mostly sett all right. 401 00:20:22,114 --> 00:20:24,394 Speaker 3: Finally, to all the knuckleheads I see in social media 402 00:20:24,434 --> 00:20:27,393 Speaker 3: saying discipline wouldn't be an issue if they hired Vrabel, 403 00:20:28,033 --> 00:20:30,754 Speaker 3: know that Tennessee finished fifth and sixth and penalties per 404 00:20:30,793 --> 00:20:34,234 Speaker 3: game over the last two years. Uh ps, Who cares 405 00:20:34,234 --> 00:20:37,034 Speaker 3: if it's called dressing or stuffing. Just pour some gravy 406 00:20:37,073 --> 00:20:37,914 Speaker 3: on and shower down. 407 00:20:38,234 --> 00:20:39,714 Speaker 4: So is that a Is that a thing? 408 00:20:39,793 --> 00:20:41,114 Speaker 3: Yeah? I didn't know that same thing. 409 00:20:41,754 --> 00:20:43,394 Speaker 9: I think they're two very different things. 410 00:20:43,674 --> 00:20:46,073 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one. Is something I put on my salad. 411 00:20:46,234 --> 00:20:50,273 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, But I've heard some people call stuffing dressing. 412 00:20:51,073 --> 00:20:53,513 Speaker 9: I have Okay, all right, I'd like to see what 413 00:20:53,513 --> 00:20:55,113 Speaker 9: they're stuffing cooked inside the turkey. 414 00:20:55,154 --> 00:20:55,754 Speaker 4: The other one's not. 415 00:20:55,833 --> 00:20:56,514 Speaker 5: That's the difference. 416 00:20:56,714 --> 00:20:58,674 Speaker 4: Okay, good dressing. 417 00:20:58,313 --> 00:20:59,954 Speaker 1: Is stuffing that's cooked inside the turkey. 418 00:21:00,033 --> 00:21:01,273 Speaker 4: How long you been here? Six? 419 00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:03,434 Speaker 3: Ye? Right? But got the Google machine next to me. 420 00:21:03,553 --> 00:21:04,513 Speaker 3: To me, they're both stuffed. 421 00:21:04,754 --> 00:21:05,553 Speaker 4: First contribution. 422 00:21:05,754 --> 00:21:09,074 Speaker 3: Nice, good job, especially if it's cooked in the turkey. 423 00:21:09,114 --> 00:21:11,914 Speaker 4: If it's cooked in the turkey, it's stuffing. No, it's 424 00:21:11,914 --> 00:21:13,553 Speaker 4: if it's it's dressing. It's dressing. 425 00:21:13,674 --> 00:21:15,953 Speaker 1: I know, But but doesn't it make it makes more 426 00:21:15,954 --> 00:21:18,834 Speaker 1: sense because you're stuffing it in, right, And I would 427 00:21:18,874 --> 00:21:21,033 Speaker 1: like to say, Paul, that would be my first accurate contribution. 428 00:21:23,154 --> 00:21:27,553 Speaker 3: So anyway, I kid because I love I'm sure that 429 00:21:27,874 --> 00:21:30,554 Speaker 3: on a lot of your shows there's a lot of 430 00:21:30,593 --> 00:21:33,914 Speaker 3: you know, Thanksgiving debate about whether you know ham versus 431 00:21:33,954 --> 00:21:37,914 Speaker 3: turkey versus anything else, and all that stuff is there. 432 00:21:38,114 --> 00:21:42,194 Speaker 3: I don't know that's what usually the holiday fill in 433 00:21:42,273 --> 00:21:43,474 Speaker 3: host do they. 434 00:21:43,353 --> 00:21:45,793 Speaker 4: Talk about that a shot? 435 00:21:45,954 --> 00:21:49,714 Speaker 3: They talk about Okay, name your favorite Thanksgiving movies, you know, 436 00:21:50,474 --> 00:21:51,513 Speaker 3: dressing verse stuff in. 437 00:21:51,593 --> 00:21:53,714 Speaker 6: I could your favorite costume. 438 00:21:53,954 --> 00:21:55,513 Speaker 4: I could get on the movie thing. I don't really 439 00:21:55,553 --> 00:21:57,353 Speaker 4: care about the food like turkey. 440 00:21:56,954 --> 00:21:59,194 Speaker 3: Fo Yeah, I'm not a big I'm not a big 441 00:21:59,234 --> 00:22:00,474 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving food person. 442 00:22:00,553 --> 00:22:03,474 Speaker 9: Now, yeah, that's what Evan was saying all morning. He 443 00:22:03,553 --> 00:22:06,994 Speaker 9: was never a Thanksgiving food person. But then he started 444 00:22:07,033 --> 00:22:09,793 Speaker 9: eating Thanksgiving food that wasn't made by his family and 445 00:22:09,833 --> 00:22:12,353 Speaker 9: he was like, oh wait, this actually is different thing. 446 00:22:12,434 --> 00:22:14,114 Speaker 9: Maybe my family just can't. 447 00:22:14,353 --> 00:22:16,914 Speaker 4: Family must have gone to an Italian's house. 448 00:22:18,674 --> 00:22:22,234 Speaker 9: I think Evan cooks. Well, we'll save that for Evan 449 00:22:22,313 --> 00:22:25,674 Speaker 9: to come back. Evan told me he has a lot 450 00:22:25,674 --> 00:22:29,273 Speaker 9: of experience making the turkey, really, which it's baffling to 451 00:22:29,313 --> 00:22:30,754 Speaker 9: me that he would be put in charge of something 452 00:22:30,793 --> 00:22:31,074 Speaker 9: like that. 453 00:22:31,154 --> 00:22:34,874 Speaker 3: But does love limitations go to a Jersey Mike Sam. 454 00:22:35,033 --> 00:22:36,954 Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't need any time to answer that 455 00:22:37,073 --> 00:22:40,393 Speaker 4: question from you, Alex and Thanksgiving survey. You do not 456 00:22:40,553 --> 00:22:42,674 Speaker 4: want me involved in anything. 457 00:22:42,513 --> 00:22:46,033 Speaker 3: All right? Got a hurry, and I know we have 458 00:22:46,154 --> 00:22:48,953 Speaker 3: listeners that are calling in, so let's get to some 459 00:22:48,994 --> 00:22:52,994 Speaker 3: of the phone calls on the TPX hotline. Patty's an Agaam, 460 00:22:53,073 --> 00:22:53,793 Speaker 3: what's up Patty? 461 00:22:54,434 --> 00:22:54,754 Speaker 4: Patty? 462 00:22:55,234 --> 00:22:58,153 Speaker 5: Hey, good afternoon, Then happy Thanksgiving? Tall you guys and 463 00:22:58,194 --> 00:22:58,833 Speaker 5: all your family. 464 00:22:58,994 --> 00:23:03,113 Speaker 3: Sure, thank you, of course, I just thought, of course. 465 00:23:03,994 --> 00:23:04,674 Speaker 8: Thank you very much. 466 00:23:04,793 --> 00:23:07,674 Speaker 5: I had a quick question about the Marcus Covington. Now 467 00:23:07,714 --> 00:23:10,754 Speaker 5: we've heard players in the past, talk about how Belichick 468 00:23:11,194 --> 00:23:14,113 Speaker 5: made the defensive scheme easy for them to like understand 469 00:23:14,154 --> 00:23:20,234 Speaker 5: and and and you know, practically do it on the field. 470 00:23:21,194 --> 00:23:24,234 Speaker 5: Do you think in some way the Marcus Covington is like, 471 00:23:24,954 --> 00:23:26,793 Speaker 5: is the sense of scheme is a little bit too 472 00:23:26,874 --> 00:23:29,394 Speaker 5: confusing or convoluted. And I'll take it up there because 473 00:23:29,434 --> 00:23:30,674 Speaker 5: I know you guys got to hurry and happy. 474 00:23:30,674 --> 00:23:33,513 Speaker 3: Thanks in Again, I have no idea about that. 475 00:23:33,793 --> 00:23:36,793 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that they're doing things that are 476 00:23:36,954 --> 00:23:40,354 Speaker 4: markedly different than they've done in the past. I think 477 00:23:40,394 --> 00:23:42,674 Speaker 4: there is there has been some carryover on that side 478 00:23:42,714 --> 00:23:46,553 Speaker 4: of the ball with Covington, with Mayo, with Mike Pelligreen. 479 00:23:48,874 --> 00:23:50,313 Speaker 3: We're a game plan team. 480 00:23:50,273 --> 00:23:52,754 Speaker 4: So this is what I want to get at. Okay, Okay, 481 00:23:53,313 --> 00:23:55,033 Speaker 4: I know that they want to be a game plan team, 482 00:23:55,033 --> 00:23:57,194 Speaker 4: and I know that's what they've been for twenty six years. 483 00:23:59,033 --> 00:24:01,033 Speaker 4: I think maybe some of the problems of the last 484 00:24:01,434 --> 00:24:04,793 Speaker 4: three or four years and why is when your talent 485 00:24:04,954 --> 00:24:07,273 Speaker 4: isn't at a certain level, it's hard to just change 486 00:24:07,313 --> 00:24:10,393 Speaker 4: everything dramatically from week to week, right, You can't. You know, 487 00:24:10,474 --> 00:24:13,034 Speaker 4: Bill used to say, you know, we can't even get 488 00:24:13,033 --> 00:24:17,714 Speaker 4: the quarterback to center exchange, like they can't do basic yet. Yeah, 489 00:24:17,754 --> 00:24:20,513 Speaker 4: so asking them to do a different thing from one 490 00:24:20,553 --> 00:24:23,474 Speaker 4: week to the next is probably a bigger challenge than 491 00:24:23,474 --> 00:24:26,353 Speaker 4: it was, say ten years ago, with the amount of 492 00:24:26,353 --> 00:24:28,234 Speaker 4: talent that was here. So I do think that might 493 00:24:28,273 --> 00:24:29,153 Speaker 4: have something to do with it. 494 00:24:29,154 --> 00:24:32,994 Speaker 3: It's talent plus versatility. 495 00:24:31,833 --> 00:24:36,033 Speaker 4: Communication issues, Like you get some guys out there that 496 00:24:36,154 --> 00:24:39,274 Speaker 4: haven't been out there a ton. You know, there's missteps 497 00:24:39,273 --> 00:24:41,074 Speaker 4: and missed assignments and whatnot. 498 00:24:41,194 --> 00:24:43,353 Speaker 9: And then you have players that are pretty good for 499 00:24:43,394 --> 00:24:45,513 Speaker 9: you in their roles that are now asked to take 500 00:24:45,553 --> 00:24:48,234 Speaker 9: on new roles due to injuries due to missing players. 501 00:24:48,273 --> 00:24:50,314 Speaker 9: So it's like it's just a microcosm of all these 502 00:24:50,353 --> 00:24:52,754 Speaker 9: things trickling down to So I. 503 00:24:52,714 --> 00:24:55,434 Speaker 4: Don't necessarily think it's overly complicated, but I do think 504 00:24:55,434 --> 00:24:56,793 Speaker 4: they might be asked to do too much. 505 00:24:57,033 --> 00:25:04,674 Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, Kendall in North Carolina? What's up, Kendall? Good? 506 00:25:06,033 --> 00:25:06,273 Speaker 11: Good? 507 00:25:07,073 --> 00:25:07,553 Speaker 8: This question? 508 00:25:07,833 --> 00:25:08,834 Speaker 12: Is you know this both? 509 00:25:08,954 --> 00:25:09,154 Speaker 8: Yah. 510 00:25:09,874 --> 00:25:11,793 Speaker 12: I'm seeing like a few people, a lot of people 511 00:25:11,954 --> 00:25:15,994 Speaker 12: like kind of man, your games some days to have 512 00:25:16,154 --> 00:25:18,234 Speaker 12: like and I think it's winnable. But I see a 513 00:25:18,273 --> 00:25:20,353 Speaker 12: lot of people like I think they're taking it to 514 00:25:20,593 --> 00:25:23,353 Speaker 12: your life. I actually think they have a good enough roster. 515 00:25:23,833 --> 00:25:26,754 Speaker 12: I think they're underrated thing. I think a lot of 516 00:25:26,754 --> 00:25:28,793 Speaker 12: people are just from there, like this is a game 517 00:25:28,874 --> 00:25:31,794 Speaker 12: that you shooting win for the patron and web Matt. 518 00:25:32,474 --> 00:25:35,393 Speaker 12: If you look at last year, I know it was 519 00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:38,033 Speaker 12: Lancet or whatnot, but they be going to Michigan. They 520 00:25:38,033 --> 00:25:40,393 Speaker 12: got they got a pretty good defensive line and we 521 00:25:40,513 --> 00:25:44,114 Speaker 12: got just we got pretty much the same offensive line 522 00:25:44,154 --> 00:25:46,513 Speaker 12: from last year. We got a few new pieces, but 523 00:25:46,674 --> 00:25:49,714 Speaker 12: not the same quiets balance. So my person for Paul, 524 00:25:49,754 --> 00:25:52,073 Speaker 12: like what you think about you think this coast seemed 525 00:25:52,154 --> 00:25:53,833 Speaker 12: to trying to underrated and I think it out may 526 00:25:53,833 --> 00:25:54,554 Speaker 12: I appreciate it? 527 00:25:54,634 --> 00:25:55,353 Speaker 3: Okay, thanks. 528 00:25:56,313 --> 00:26:00,193 Speaker 4: I think the Colts have some interesting pieces to work with. 529 00:26:00,273 --> 00:26:03,553 Speaker 4: I love their interior front on the defense with the 530 00:26:03,634 --> 00:26:05,754 Speaker 4: Forest Buckner and Grover Stewart. I talked about them a 531 00:26:05,793 --> 00:26:09,793 Speaker 4: little bit yesterday. I like their their trio of receivers 532 00:26:09,833 --> 00:26:12,513 Speaker 4: with Josh Downs, Michael Pittman, and Ali Pearce. I think 533 00:26:12,553 --> 00:26:14,994 Speaker 4: Tho's are three pretty good players. I think they might 534 00:26:15,033 --> 00:26:18,873 Speaker 4: be missing sort of that really alpha dog. I think 535 00:26:18,914 --> 00:26:20,553 Speaker 4: they have three good guys. I don't think they have 536 00:26:20,593 --> 00:26:24,153 Speaker 4: anybody that's great when healthy. The offensive line is good, 537 00:26:24,194 --> 00:26:25,913 Speaker 4: it hasn't been healthy. I think they might be starting 538 00:26:25,914 --> 00:26:30,273 Speaker 4: three rookies on Sunday on the offensive line, depending on 539 00:26:30,474 --> 00:26:33,554 Speaker 4: some of the injuries that they have. And I think 540 00:26:33,593 --> 00:26:35,954 Speaker 4: they have some pieces. I don't think the secondary is 541 00:26:36,033 --> 00:26:38,833 Speaker 4: very good, but they have some pieces on defense in 542 00:26:38,874 --> 00:26:42,554 Speaker 4: addition to those. You know, Zaire Franklin's a good, good, 543 00:26:42,674 --> 00:26:45,553 Speaker 4: solid inside linebacker, been doing it pretty well for a 544 00:26:45,553 --> 00:26:48,474 Speaker 4: few years now. I think that it's a good team. 545 00:26:48,674 --> 00:26:52,354 Speaker 4: It's you know, it's to me, it's like an eight 546 00:26:52,353 --> 00:26:54,714 Speaker 4: to nine, nine and eight kind of team should be 547 00:26:54,874 --> 00:26:58,714 Speaker 4: islent wise, No, because they don't have a quarterback. It's 548 00:26:58,833 --> 00:27:02,074 Speaker 4: my long way of saying, like last year, like when 549 00:27:02,154 --> 00:27:05,634 Speaker 4: Richardson got hurt, they put a veteran backup in Minshew, 550 00:27:05,634 --> 00:27:07,953 Speaker 4: who I think stinks, but he's a veteran and they 551 00:27:07,954 --> 00:27:11,474 Speaker 4: were able to squeak out nine wins. Richardson would not 552 00:27:11,513 --> 00:27:14,754 Speaker 4: have gone nine to eight in my opinion, when Flacco 553 00:27:14,914 --> 00:27:16,833 Speaker 4: was playing this year, I think they had a better 554 00:27:16,914 --> 00:27:17,273 Speaker 4: chance to. 555 00:27:17,313 --> 00:27:19,754 Speaker 3: Win I have if they had a better quarterback. I 556 00:27:19,754 --> 00:27:21,433 Speaker 3: think they would have a talent they have, would they 557 00:27:21,474 --> 00:27:22,034 Speaker 3: be they would. 558 00:27:21,833 --> 00:27:23,394 Speaker 4: They would win ten or eleven games. 559 00:27:23,194 --> 00:27:24,714 Speaker 3: If they had a good quarterback. I think I think 560 00:27:24,674 --> 00:27:25,434 Speaker 3: they've J. 561 00:27:25,553 --> 00:27:27,914 Speaker 4: Stroud was on the Colts, they'd win ten or eleven games, 562 00:27:28,994 --> 00:27:32,154 Speaker 4: and C. J. Stroud is having kind of a sophomore slump. 563 00:27:31,914 --> 00:27:32,434 Speaker 3: A little bit. 564 00:27:33,394 --> 00:27:37,073 Speaker 4: Yep, I think. I think. I think what Kendall's point 565 00:27:37,194 --> 00:27:39,114 Speaker 4: was is why are people assuming this is a win? 566 00:27:40,434 --> 00:27:41,193 Speaker 3: Who's doing that? 567 00:27:41,234 --> 00:27:43,994 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people listen around here, oh 568 00:27:44,474 --> 00:27:47,193 Speaker 4: the straw man or real piece, not the straw man. 569 00:27:47,553 --> 00:27:50,353 Speaker 3: But I haven't heard anybody say that they're going to 570 00:27:50,394 --> 00:27:54,513 Speaker 3: win this game. I've heard people say they've got shot. 571 00:27:54,754 --> 00:27:56,474 Speaker 9: I've heard say it's the last one they have a 572 00:27:56,513 --> 00:27:57,434 Speaker 9: shot at winning, but. 573 00:27:57,474 --> 00:27:59,674 Speaker 4: Not I've heard they're going to win, and I've heard 574 00:27:59,714 --> 00:28:01,113 Speaker 4: this is the last one they're going to win. 575 00:28:01,194 --> 00:28:02,153 Speaker 3: Is this on your shows? 576 00:28:02,313 --> 00:28:02,553 Speaker 4: Yeah? 577 00:28:02,994 --> 00:28:03,313 Speaker 3: Really? 578 00:28:03,593 --> 00:28:08,834 Speaker 4: Callers, emailers, you know I optimistic that Yeah. I think 579 00:28:08,874 --> 00:28:13,033 Speaker 4: that Indy is probably more talented on the roster on paper, 580 00:28:13,474 --> 00:28:15,833 Speaker 4: but you can't just ignore the fact that their quarterback 581 00:28:15,994 --> 00:28:18,553 Speaker 4: is still figuring it out. I think Drake may is 582 00:28:18,634 --> 00:28:20,873 Speaker 4: already more advanced than Anthony and he should be. He 583 00:28:20,874 --> 00:28:26,954 Speaker 4: played more, you know, he's he's more advanced than Anthony Richardson. 584 00:28:27,114 --> 00:28:29,634 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson played one year of college and didn't play 585 00:28:29,754 --> 00:28:31,833 Speaker 4: very well, right, Like he was overdrafted. 586 00:28:31,914 --> 00:28:33,954 Speaker 3: So in this game, I think the key for the 587 00:28:33,994 --> 00:28:37,314 Speaker 3: Patriots is just don't let up the big play because 588 00:28:37,353 --> 00:28:42,034 Speaker 3: he's not accurate, but he'll get those explosive plays. So 589 00:28:42,194 --> 00:28:44,634 Speaker 3: if you if you minimize that and you take care 590 00:28:44,674 --> 00:28:45,713 Speaker 3: of Taylor. 591 00:28:45,834 --> 00:28:47,633 Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, it's Taylor. He stopped the run and 592 00:28:47,714 --> 00:28:48,474 Speaker 4: the should be able to. 593 00:28:48,994 --> 00:28:52,274 Speaker 3: You have a shot at keeping the score down. Yeah, 594 00:28:52,314 --> 00:28:53,434 Speaker 3: but now you've got a score. 595 00:28:53,594 --> 00:28:56,194 Speaker 9: Yeah, like a quarterback like that, you need to take 596 00:28:56,234 --> 00:28:59,074 Speaker 9: advantage of him being kind of a liability and that 597 00:28:59,434 --> 00:29:01,194 Speaker 9: you really need to see the defense step up in 598 00:29:01,234 --> 00:29:03,554 Speaker 9: a game like this. They need more turnovers, they need 599 00:29:03,634 --> 00:29:06,433 Speaker 9: to they need to come away with those extra possessions. 600 00:29:06,634 --> 00:29:08,114 Speaker 3: Yeah, so just. 601 00:29:08,034 --> 00:29:10,914 Speaker 4: Like looking real quick. You know, like when when Richardson played, 602 00:29:10,914 --> 00:29:12,633 Speaker 4: you know, they lose the first game twenty nine to 603 00:29:12,674 --> 00:29:17,834 Speaker 4: twenty seven. You know, they beat the Bears twenty one, sixteen, 604 00:29:17,874 --> 00:29:20,994 Speaker 4: they beat the Steelers twenty seven to twenty four. You know, 605 00:29:21,154 --> 00:29:25,354 Speaker 4: then Richardson got hurt, so in that Pittsburgh game, you 606 00:29:25,354 --> 00:29:27,474 Speaker 4: got hurt. So he comes out, but they put thirty 607 00:29:27,474 --> 00:29:29,954 Speaker 4: four on the board. The next week they lost, you know, 608 00:29:29,994 --> 00:29:32,153 Speaker 4: so this is not a great defense. But you know, 609 00:29:32,234 --> 00:29:34,074 Speaker 4: for the most part, they're putting points on the board. 610 00:29:34,114 --> 00:29:36,674 Speaker 4: With the exception of that Vikings game that Flacco play, 611 00:29:36,674 --> 00:29:38,954 Speaker 4: they didn't move the ball at all. But you know, 612 00:29:39,034 --> 00:29:42,314 Speaker 4: twenty three, twenty thirty to twenty twenty eight, twenty seven win, 613 00:29:42,754 --> 00:29:45,554 Speaker 4: and then last week they get held to six. So 614 00:29:46,834 --> 00:29:49,673 Speaker 4: I think this is a game that you if you 615 00:29:49,714 --> 00:29:52,874 Speaker 4: can keep them around twenty, you should have a chance 616 00:29:52,914 --> 00:29:55,393 Speaker 4: to win. There's no way that Colt should be shutting 617 00:29:55,394 --> 00:29:57,913 Speaker 4: you out for three quarters. Yeah, you know, like they 618 00:29:58,114 --> 00:29:59,194 Speaker 4: like they happened last week. 619 00:29:59,714 --> 00:30:03,074 Speaker 3: Travis and West Virginia says, just a quick Thanksgiving thought. 620 00:30:03,434 --> 00:30:06,274 Speaker 3: If you don't like stuffing, maybe you've just never had 621 00:30:06,314 --> 00:30:08,594 Speaker 3: good stuffing. I feel this way about a lot of 622 00:30:08,594 --> 00:30:10,074 Speaker 3: foods that people say they don't like. 623 00:30:10,274 --> 00:30:13,194 Speaker 4: Stuffing's okay, I love it. Stuffing, I love it. I 624 00:30:13,234 --> 00:30:13,834 Speaker 4: like stuffing. 625 00:30:14,274 --> 00:30:17,754 Speaker 3: No sauage, it's turkey, I don't want to Yeah, stuffing 626 00:30:17,794 --> 00:30:21,074 Speaker 3: with gravy. Yeah, and it's good stuff. 627 00:30:21,154 --> 00:30:21,394 Speaker 4: Yeah. 628 00:30:21,434 --> 00:30:23,594 Speaker 9: I agree, you've never liked turkey. 629 00:30:24,114 --> 00:30:26,754 Speaker 4: Turkey's just dry, dry, with no taste. 630 00:30:27,594 --> 00:30:28,594 Speaker 3: Turkey's like chicken. 631 00:30:28,754 --> 00:30:29,554 Speaker 9: I think that says more. 632 00:30:29,914 --> 00:30:34,354 Speaker 4: It's way better. Turkey's way better than chickens. I mean, 633 00:30:34,434 --> 00:30:38,034 Speaker 4: chickens way better than turkey. Okay, yeah, I like, like, 634 00:30:38,314 --> 00:30:41,394 Speaker 4: it's it's just not there's not there's no there there. 635 00:30:41,874 --> 00:30:42,274 Speaker 9: Mm hmm. 636 00:30:43,434 --> 00:30:44,673 Speaker 4: You could disagree, let's go. 637 00:30:44,874 --> 00:30:45,314 Speaker 3: Yeah I do. 638 00:30:45,474 --> 00:30:48,074 Speaker 9: I don't know, but my mom's an extra, so I realized, 639 00:30:48,074 --> 00:30:51,034 Speaker 9: I'm very it's hot, very. 640 00:30:50,634 --> 00:30:52,874 Speaker 4: It's hot arguing against me, he won one in a row. 641 00:30:52,914 --> 00:30:53,994 Speaker 4: Do you want a chance? 642 00:30:54,474 --> 00:30:57,274 Speaker 9: I want to bring you in my mom's turkey or 643 00:30:57,314 --> 00:30:58,474 Speaker 9: my mom's plate in general. 644 00:30:58,674 --> 00:31:00,873 Speaker 4: So let me ask you something. When you have, like, 645 00:31:01,034 --> 00:31:03,034 Speaker 4: let's just say you're carving up the turkey, you take 646 00:31:03,074 --> 00:31:06,633 Speaker 4: a few pieces, what do you do with it? What 647 00:31:06,674 --> 00:31:10,713 Speaker 4: do you mean before you eat it? Do you have 648 00:31:10,834 --> 00:31:16,674 Speaker 4: like with some gravy and you put it all there? Yeah, 649 00:31:16,714 --> 00:31:18,434 Speaker 4: it's not the turkey you like, it's all the other 650 00:31:18,434 --> 00:31:19,194 Speaker 4: stuff that goes with. 651 00:31:19,194 --> 00:31:23,714 Speaker 9: You know, it's it's it's compliments turkey. But I'm not 652 00:31:23,754 --> 00:31:26,474 Speaker 9: a person that needs to douse the turkey and gravy 653 00:31:26,554 --> 00:31:29,274 Speaker 9: to get it down my throat. Like I don't know, 654 00:31:29,314 --> 00:31:31,953 Speaker 9: you have. My mom will make the marinade that the turkey, 655 00:31:32,074 --> 00:31:34,314 Speaker 9: like the juices that the turkey's cooked in that you 656 00:31:34,314 --> 00:31:36,234 Speaker 9: pour over afterwards. But I think you do that with 657 00:31:36,274 --> 00:31:41,074 Speaker 9: any meat. No, you don't cook up a steak with 658 00:31:41,194 --> 00:31:45,474 Speaker 9: like butter and like baste it the steak in the seer. 659 00:31:46,394 --> 00:31:49,634 Speaker 4: It depends what I'm doing, Okay, Yeah, but like I'm 660 00:31:49,634 --> 00:31:53,194 Speaker 4: just getting like a film or bony. 661 00:31:52,554 --> 00:31:54,554 Speaker 9: Like a chicken a chicken dish. 662 00:31:55,314 --> 00:31:58,274 Speaker 3: You're not like I think I put chicken up there 663 00:31:58,314 --> 00:32:00,594 Speaker 3: with turkey in that it does you need to do 664 00:32:00,634 --> 00:32:01,194 Speaker 3: stuff with it. 665 00:32:01,274 --> 00:32:03,794 Speaker 4: Chicken has a lot more moisture, depends. 666 00:32:03,834 --> 00:32:05,994 Speaker 9: It all depends on how you're cooking it. 667 00:32:06,114 --> 00:32:07,393 Speaker 3: There's to this. 668 00:32:08,754 --> 00:32:10,634 Speaker 9: Yeah, but if if you have like a really good 669 00:32:10,754 --> 00:32:13,314 Speaker 9: basted over at night, and if like it's all it 670 00:32:13,314 --> 00:32:15,034 Speaker 9: all comes down to the marinad for me, you can't 671 00:32:15,074 --> 00:32:17,113 Speaker 9: just throw something in the oven and expect it to 672 00:32:17,154 --> 00:32:17,674 Speaker 9: come out good. 673 00:32:17,754 --> 00:32:19,873 Speaker 4: So okay, so we're on the same page. It's not 674 00:32:19,874 --> 00:32:20,794 Speaker 4: the turkey, it's. 675 00:32:20,594 --> 00:32:22,274 Speaker 3: The marinadrit right. 676 00:32:22,354 --> 00:32:24,274 Speaker 4: I would probably enjoy your mom's turkey. 677 00:32:24,354 --> 00:32:27,274 Speaker 9: Yeah, you have to do something with cath if you're listening, 678 00:32:27,874 --> 00:32:28,754 Speaker 9: make some more turkeys. 679 00:32:28,914 --> 00:32:31,433 Speaker 4: So the only turkey that I can eat is like 680 00:32:32,234 --> 00:32:36,074 Speaker 4: leftovers the next day, you know, little uh little sandwiches 681 00:32:36,274 --> 00:32:38,153 Speaker 4: lovely too. Maybe you put a little stuffing on the 682 00:32:38,154 --> 00:32:38,754 Speaker 4: top with Some. 683 00:32:39,474 --> 00:32:42,274 Speaker 3: People are gonna like choke when I tell them this. 684 00:32:42,394 --> 00:32:45,994 Speaker 3: But like for leftover turkey, sometimes I just put a 685 00:32:45,994 --> 00:32:48,314 Speaker 3: little mayonnaise in a plate and I dip it. I 686 00:32:48,354 --> 00:32:49,274 Speaker 3: dipped the turkey in it. 687 00:32:49,594 --> 00:32:51,913 Speaker 4: That's the sandwich. Little stuff to. 688 00:32:52,594 --> 00:32:54,633 Speaker 9: Do it like chicken fingers with Well, you're just watching 689 00:32:54,634 --> 00:32:55,394 Speaker 9: your carbs. 690 00:32:55,474 --> 00:32:57,954 Speaker 4: Because you don't want the turkey, right. 691 00:32:58,074 --> 00:33:00,314 Speaker 9: The skinny girl version, you dip it in mayo? 692 00:33:00,514 --> 00:33:07,194 Speaker 4: Yeah, very tony soprano. 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What was 709 00:34:11,834 --> 00:34:12,194 Speaker 3: it like? 710 00:34:15,114 --> 00:34:16,314 Speaker 9: Paul really got into that one. 711 00:34:16,954 --> 00:34:19,914 Speaker 3: So Mike, what was music? It was good? 712 00:34:19,994 --> 00:34:23,994 Speaker 7: It was good today. I think I had some interesting 713 00:34:23,994 --> 00:34:27,194 Speaker 7: insight today. Maybe maybe it's more like speculation. I okay, 714 00:34:27,954 --> 00:34:29,754 Speaker 7: but we hear from Michael WHENU and I'm sure you 715 00:34:29,754 --> 00:34:34,354 Speaker 7: guys probably discussed Michael Jordan getting released already and. 716 00:34:34,194 --> 00:34:36,073 Speaker 4: Michael Strangely, we actually did. 717 00:34:37,154 --> 00:34:38,873 Speaker 7: Michael when you was asked a little bit about cold 718 00:34:38,873 --> 00:34:42,274 Speaker 7: Strange and uh and kind of a prompt and when 719 00:34:42,274 --> 00:34:44,433 Speaker 7: you kept talking about him snapping the ball and really 720 00:34:44,473 --> 00:34:47,674 Speaker 7: referring to him as like working at center, and so 721 00:34:47,834 --> 00:34:50,634 Speaker 7: it started some speculation. Just after he talked of like 722 00:34:50,714 --> 00:34:51,953 Speaker 7: you know, I mean, I know we'll talked to you 723 00:34:51,994 --> 00:34:54,914 Speaker 7: this morning, Paul thought that, oh maybe this is Strange 724 00:34:55,234 --> 00:34:55,834 Speaker 7: is ready to go. 725 00:34:55,994 --> 00:34:58,473 Speaker 4: I do think that Strange has to be activated and 726 00:34:58,473 --> 00:34:59,513 Speaker 4: it's going to go to left guard. 727 00:34:59,514 --> 00:35:00,194 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 728 00:35:00,234 --> 00:35:03,113 Speaker 7: We were I said to Giardi in the locker room, 729 00:35:03,114 --> 00:35:04,794 Speaker 7: I said, do you think there's a chance that this 730 00:35:04,873 --> 00:35:08,193 Speaker 7: weekend it's cold Strange at center and Robinson at left guard? 731 00:35:08,194 --> 00:35:10,594 Speaker 4: Maybe or city? So maybe, Yeah, I think there is 732 00:35:10,634 --> 00:35:11,154 Speaker 4: a chance in that. 733 00:35:11,274 --> 00:35:13,993 Speaker 7: I think something which Mike Jardy was not a fan of. 734 00:35:14,034 --> 00:35:15,434 Speaker 4: I would just say as a side. 735 00:35:15,314 --> 00:35:18,074 Speaker 7: But but I think that could be some change. You know, 736 00:35:18,114 --> 00:35:19,993 Speaker 7: I don't I don't know. I really wonder if they're 737 00:35:20,034 --> 00:35:23,274 Speaker 7: really looking at Strange as a center. Now. That was 738 00:35:23,274 --> 00:35:25,834 Speaker 7: that was kind of my biggest takeaway. And you know, 739 00:35:25,834 --> 00:35:27,513 Speaker 7: Giardi's point that he was making is like you have 740 00:35:27,554 --> 00:35:29,794 Speaker 7: a guy that has played left guard, and you know 741 00:35:29,913 --> 00:35:31,674 Speaker 7: it's I know he's had his ups and downs, and 742 00:35:32,314 --> 00:35:33,993 Speaker 7: but he's a guy that you drafted to play there. 743 00:35:34,114 --> 00:35:38,314 Speaker 4: He played there, like, so you know, interesting I've. 744 00:35:39,714 --> 00:35:42,194 Speaker 3: With Strange at center was that he just doesn't have 745 00:35:42,234 --> 00:35:45,034 Speaker 3: the body type. But I might be thinking of centers 746 00:35:45,034 --> 00:35:46,913 Speaker 3: of old when you're going up against one of those 747 00:35:46,913 --> 00:35:49,274 Speaker 3: big nose tackles. There aren't a lot of those left. 748 00:35:49,714 --> 00:35:52,393 Speaker 3: Every once in a while you get them. But now 749 00:35:52,393 --> 00:35:55,433 Speaker 3: it's you know, guys are moving around and if you 750 00:35:55,473 --> 00:35:58,274 Speaker 3: know Ben Brown's having trouble with you know, the stunts 751 00:35:58,314 --> 00:36:01,234 Speaker 3: and the twists and all that stuff. To me, that's 752 00:36:01,274 --> 00:36:04,393 Speaker 3: more just getting up and being aware more than just 753 00:36:04,473 --> 00:36:07,513 Speaker 3: like immediately getting pushed back from a nose tackle. So 754 00:36:07,794 --> 00:36:10,633 Speaker 3: maybe in today's NFL a guy like Cole Strange could 755 00:36:10,674 --> 00:36:11,153 Speaker 3: play center. 756 00:36:11,194 --> 00:36:13,513 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, but I think that he's bigger 757 00:36:13,594 --> 00:36:15,633 Speaker 4: than you think he is. But I also say that, 758 00:36:15,953 --> 00:36:17,834 Speaker 4: you know, Mike talked about this yesterday. A lot of 759 00:36:17,834 --> 00:36:21,114 Speaker 4: people felt coming out that Strange was the center. A 760 00:36:21,194 --> 00:36:22,393 Speaker 4: lot of the college. 761 00:36:23,274 --> 00:36:26,873 Speaker 7: Played there the full time as Senior Bowl. Yeah, I 762 00:36:27,034 --> 00:36:29,074 Speaker 7: I it's an interesting kind of decision. I'd love to 763 00:36:29,114 --> 00:36:30,913 Speaker 7: see Leydon Romins and get a chance again, though, I mean, 764 00:36:30,953 --> 00:36:32,473 Speaker 7: I think that's as you get to the final games, 765 00:36:32,473 --> 00:36:35,154 Speaker 7: you want to see your rookies get in get an opportunity. So, 766 00:36:35,953 --> 00:36:37,553 Speaker 7: you know, when you talked a little bit about him 767 00:36:37,554 --> 00:36:40,114 Speaker 7: to nothing exciting, just that he's working hard, that kind 768 00:36:40,154 --> 00:36:40,473 Speaker 7: of thing. 769 00:36:40,433 --> 00:36:42,953 Speaker 4: Like who would the who is the other guy on 770 00:36:42,994 --> 00:36:46,114 Speaker 4: the roster, like backup lineman that has some center experience 771 00:36:46,154 --> 00:36:49,114 Speaker 4: with the smith that was the guy I was. I 772 00:36:49,114 --> 00:36:51,073 Speaker 4: think I said. 773 00:36:53,953 --> 00:36:57,754 Speaker 9: Hands first names that. 774 00:36:57,913 --> 00:37:03,674 Speaker 4: Like, I got your quelling. Everybody else calls him Jacqueline. 775 00:37:03,953 --> 00:37:08,393 Speaker 9: I know you caught up not saying you know what 776 00:37:08,433 --> 00:37:10,234 Speaker 9: his name reminds me of is the Key and Peel. 777 00:37:10,433 --> 00:37:12,954 Speaker 7: I know, That's why I'm in my head about it exactly. 778 00:37:14,234 --> 00:37:16,113 Speaker 3: Everybody calls a ron. 779 00:37:17,433 --> 00:37:19,073 Speaker 6: It's messed me up. But I can't pronoun. 780 00:37:18,794 --> 00:37:22,473 Speaker 7: Anybody's names anymore. Yeah, so that was locker room. Nothing 781 00:37:22,554 --> 00:37:24,794 Speaker 7: not a lot going in on in the actual locker room. 782 00:37:24,873 --> 00:37:29,393 Speaker 7: But yeah, we only just when you and uh and 783 00:37:29,473 --> 00:37:31,714 Speaker 7: one other guy who I'm totally blanking on. 784 00:37:31,794 --> 00:37:34,433 Speaker 6: At the moment, Kendrick Born. 785 00:37:35,994 --> 00:37:36,154 Speaker 7: It was. 786 00:37:36,314 --> 00:37:36,874 Speaker 6: It was Kendrick. 787 00:37:36,953 --> 00:37:40,914 Speaker 7: It was Kendrick Borne. And another interesting thing with Kendrick 788 00:37:40,994 --> 00:37:42,674 Speaker 7: And I mean, I think we talked about this like 789 00:37:42,754 --> 00:37:44,433 Speaker 7: I I just think he's a little bit of a 790 00:37:44,514 --> 00:37:47,234 Speaker 7: mental error repeater. And he said it himself like, you know, 791 00:37:47,314 --> 00:37:50,034 Speaker 7: sometimes I'm getting too much depth. Other times I'm not 792 00:37:50,114 --> 00:37:52,234 Speaker 7: getting enough depth, like he you know, and he kind 793 00:37:52,274 --> 00:37:54,873 Speaker 7: of made it sound like working on developing chemistry with Drake. 794 00:37:54,953 --> 00:37:56,873 Speaker 7: But I just I'm getting to the point where it's like, 795 00:37:57,034 --> 00:37:59,074 Speaker 7: I mean, you've been here for a while, like, you know, 796 00:37:59,114 --> 00:38:00,993 Speaker 7: shouldn't this be something you should be able to get down. 797 00:38:01,194 --> 00:38:03,073 Speaker 4: I talked to Fred and Alex a little bit about 798 00:38:03,674 --> 00:38:07,314 Speaker 4: Alex Van Pelt's comments about the hot routes and the blitz, 799 00:38:07,393 --> 00:38:09,913 Speaker 4: the route, the blit, the blitz, and you know, and 800 00:38:10,314 --> 00:38:12,474 Speaker 4: sort of being in the right place and how important 801 00:38:12,473 --> 00:38:15,873 Speaker 4: it is to be precise, and you know, we talked 802 00:38:15,873 --> 00:38:18,194 Speaker 4: about that a little bit, and I think maybe Bourne's 803 00:38:18,194 --> 00:38:21,354 Speaker 4: part of that as well, because he's kind of been 804 00:38:21,674 --> 00:38:23,474 Speaker 4: considered to be one of those guys is not always 805 00:38:23,473 --> 00:38:24,234 Speaker 4: where he's supposed to be. 806 00:38:24,354 --> 00:38:26,393 Speaker 7: The other interesting part, we've talked a little bit about 807 00:38:26,433 --> 00:38:28,554 Speaker 7: how Josh's old offense where there were a lot of 808 00:38:28,714 --> 00:38:31,274 Speaker 7: sight adjustments and you know, post snap reads, which always 809 00:38:31,314 --> 00:38:33,113 Speaker 7: I thought was a part of the offense that really 810 00:38:33,154 --> 00:38:35,714 Speaker 7: made it complicated, and they've gotten rid of that, and 811 00:38:35,794 --> 00:38:38,473 Speaker 7: we've talked about them kind of locked into routes and 812 00:38:38,514 --> 00:38:41,674 Speaker 7: there's not as much mental processing that needs to go 813 00:38:41,794 --> 00:38:44,433 Speaker 7: on after the snap in this offense. So, you know, 814 00:38:44,514 --> 00:38:46,114 Speaker 7: it just makes you wonder a little bit about some 815 00:38:46,194 --> 00:38:48,034 Speaker 7: of the stuff we saw in years past, of some 816 00:38:48,114 --> 00:38:49,713 Speaker 7: of the struggles we've seen with some of these guys. 817 00:38:49,754 --> 00:38:51,714 Speaker 7: I don't know, if you know they have they have 818 00:38:51,794 --> 00:38:53,314 Speaker 7: the guys that can run that kind of offense. 819 00:38:53,354 --> 00:38:54,674 Speaker 4: You know, back in the day when we used to 820 00:38:54,754 --> 00:38:57,513 Speaker 4: have our offices in other buildings, you know, back at 821 00:38:57,514 --> 00:39:00,594 Speaker 4: the old Foxborough Raceway and then Wallpole Park South. We 822 00:39:00,674 --> 00:39:02,953 Speaker 4: used to have a lot of room to play basketball. 823 00:39:03,314 --> 00:39:05,274 Speaker 4: We used to have great footbural games. Do you remember 824 00:39:05,314 --> 00:39:07,034 Speaker 4: when we used to do the site adjustment in football? 825 00:39:07,354 --> 00:39:09,754 Speaker 4: Brian Moury had Brian Moury had a great sight adjustment. 826 00:39:10,114 --> 00:39:11,433 Speaker 4: You would get under center and would go. 827 00:39:14,354 --> 00:39:14,913 Speaker 3: Run in the middle. 828 00:39:15,514 --> 00:39:17,633 Speaker 4: That was that was a sight adjust And then. 829 00:39:21,034 --> 00:39:24,754 Speaker 7: Was this indoor Oh yeah, oh yeah, gold left at 830 00:39:24,754 --> 00:39:25,953 Speaker 7: the Yeah. 831 00:39:26,393 --> 00:39:29,153 Speaker 4: We did a lot of playing almost into change life. 832 00:39:29,674 --> 00:39:31,354 Speaker 4: I think I heard that was a very physical over 833 00:39:31,393 --> 00:39:33,553 Speaker 4: the middle lineback. You didn't come across the middle line 834 00:39:33,873 --> 00:39:37,354 Speaker 4: Ray Lewis of office football. I'm just afraid she's going 835 00:39:37,433 --> 00:39:39,074 Speaker 4: to get hurt, just like the internet. 836 00:39:42,114 --> 00:39:42,314 Speaker 1: Yeah. 837 00:39:42,433 --> 00:39:45,074 Speaker 3: And then then we played baseball with the ball with 838 00:39:45,314 --> 00:39:45,834 Speaker 3: two square. 839 00:39:46,154 --> 00:39:48,514 Speaker 4: We had a lot of not enough office sports anymore. 840 00:39:48,594 --> 00:39:51,194 Speaker 3: Summer camp we had a lot of space. 841 00:39:51,754 --> 00:39:54,154 Speaker 4: Kinds have changed because they didn't let us mix with 842 00:39:54,194 --> 00:39:54,674 Speaker 4: the masses. 843 00:39:54,754 --> 00:39:56,674 Speaker 3: And you know, probably agree rightly so in one of 844 00:39:56,714 --> 00:39:59,074 Speaker 3: our graphics people, because we'd be putting out the newspaper, 845 00:39:59,194 --> 00:40:01,513 Speaker 3: the ball would land on our keyboard and it would, 846 00:40:01,594 --> 00:40:06,274 Speaker 3: you know, screw up with guys trying to work so bad. 847 00:40:06,994 --> 00:40:09,433 Speaker 4: I love you Michelle mean it, but she did not 848 00:40:09,514 --> 00:40:11,114 Speaker 4: take kindly to our office games. 849 00:40:11,514 --> 00:40:11,594 Speaker 8: Uh. 850 00:40:12,834 --> 00:40:15,074 Speaker 3: Just what do you call the breaded stuff that you 851 00:40:15,194 --> 00:40:16,673 Speaker 3: put gravy on a side? Dish? 852 00:40:17,274 --> 00:40:17,554 Speaker 4: Stuff? 853 00:40:18,154 --> 00:40:21,034 Speaker 3: Okay? You ever heard people calling it dressing? 854 00:40:21,873 --> 00:40:23,593 Speaker 7: I mean I've heard that word before, but I don't 855 00:40:23,634 --> 00:40:25,914 Speaker 7: really know what when what contests see call it dressing. 856 00:40:25,994 --> 00:40:28,594 Speaker 7: Dressing sounds like a liquid to me though, right. 857 00:40:28,594 --> 00:40:30,714 Speaker 6: That's that's yeah, oil based. 858 00:40:30,873 --> 00:40:32,433 Speaker 4: We feel you poured. 859 00:40:33,754 --> 00:40:35,913 Speaker 7: What's your what's your thing with the Italian? That's not 860 00:40:36,034 --> 00:40:40,593 Speaker 7: the sauce Bravy, that's the great It's not bravy. Right. Yeah, 861 00:40:41,354 --> 00:40:45,194 Speaker 7: I answered Alice's questions today really made me ponder all 862 00:40:45,274 --> 00:40:46,474 Speaker 7: my decisions. 863 00:40:47,514 --> 00:40:48,913 Speaker 4: What do you call the brown stuff that you put 864 00:40:48,953 --> 00:40:51,354 Speaker 4: on like your roast beef? Gravy? There's a lot of 865 00:40:51,393 --> 00:40:54,354 Speaker 4: words in this the English language that can mean multiple things. 866 00:40:54,234 --> 00:40:58,073 Speaker 3: Right, Gerald and Grimsby says, I just wanted to wish 867 00:40:58,154 --> 00:41:01,114 Speaker 3: my favorite show a happy Thanksgiving and chime in quickly 868 00:41:01,234 --> 00:41:03,953 Speaker 3: on turkey. I love it when it comes out of 869 00:41:03,994 --> 00:41:06,274 Speaker 3: the oven. I'm slicing that bad boy and picking it. 870 00:41:06,354 --> 00:41:09,394 Speaker 3: It at it even before it served lots of basting. 871 00:41:09,873 --> 00:41:11,034 Speaker 4: He gets all the good pieces. 872 00:41:11,154 --> 00:41:15,354 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like lots of basting, lots of butter 873 00:41:15,674 --> 00:41:19,354 Speaker 3: under the skin. Oh my goodness, that is good again, 874 00:41:20,473 --> 00:41:21,354 Speaker 3: basting butter. 875 00:41:24,274 --> 00:41:27,354 Speaker 9: Lat Smith found a recipe from our girl Martha Stewart. 876 00:41:27,393 --> 00:41:30,913 Speaker 9: He's gonna try cooking it in a cheese cloth with 877 00:41:31,154 --> 00:41:34,714 Speaker 9: like butter and all sorts of herbs and wine. I 878 00:41:34,794 --> 00:41:36,873 Speaker 9: think soaking a part of white wine. 879 00:41:37,194 --> 00:41:38,993 Speaker 7: Well, that's like frying stuff right with Like, did you 880 00:41:39,074 --> 00:41:41,473 Speaker 7: know that a fried fill in any food is good? 881 00:41:41,953 --> 00:41:42,714 Speaker 4: Like really, like a. 882 00:41:42,714 --> 00:41:44,033 Speaker 6: Fried Snickers bar is pretty good? 883 00:41:44,074 --> 00:41:47,154 Speaker 7: Like I believe it anything pretty good, fried Oreo. 884 00:41:47,034 --> 00:41:47,433 Speaker 3: Fried dough. 885 00:41:48,714 --> 00:41:48,913 Speaker 4: Yeah. 886 00:41:48,994 --> 00:41:50,873 Speaker 7: I don't love turkey, but like I just feel like 887 00:41:50,953 --> 00:41:53,194 Speaker 7: that's the protein base that you need to have as part. 888 00:41:53,114 --> 00:41:55,154 Speaker 4: Of the situation. That's I mean, I eat it basically 889 00:41:55,234 --> 00:41:56,714 Speaker 4: once a year and it'll be tomorrow. 890 00:41:56,754 --> 00:41:57,953 Speaker 7: But I e turkey sandwiches a lot. 891 00:41:57,994 --> 00:42:00,234 Speaker 4: But you know, but that's what the mayo and the Yeah, 892 00:42:00,274 --> 00:42:03,314 Speaker 4: but you like Deli turkey sandwiches right good, like Jersey 893 00:42:03,473 --> 00:42:04,193 Speaker 4: like Jersey mice. 894 00:42:05,674 --> 00:42:07,634 Speaker 3: I'll probably go to HR for this. But turkey is 895 00:42:07,674 --> 00:42:09,274 Speaker 3: like an ugly girl you gotta put makeup on. 896 00:42:09,913 --> 00:42:10,393 Speaker 9: That's true. 897 00:42:10,594 --> 00:42:11,073 Speaker 6: That's true. 898 00:42:13,154 --> 00:42:13,873 Speaker 7: We're an ugly guy. 899 00:42:15,393 --> 00:42:16,234 Speaker 6: I kind of like that. 900 00:42:16,554 --> 00:42:19,634 Speaker 4: I keep saying I need him for at least another 901 00:42:19,714 --> 00:42:22,194 Speaker 4: five years, and he keeps saying things like that, and 902 00:42:22,314 --> 00:42:22,913 Speaker 4: it worries me. 903 00:42:23,794 --> 00:42:26,033 Speaker 7: Then you cut her head off the entire like together. 904 00:42:25,794 --> 00:42:25,873 Speaker 8: And. 905 00:42:27,634 --> 00:42:29,714 Speaker 9: Well, I'm not offended, so hopefully no one else is. 906 00:42:30,994 --> 00:42:31,234 Speaker 3: Alex. 907 00:42:31,314 --> 00:42:33,593 Speaker 4: If it was just you, was the was the bar 908 00:42:33,714 --> 00:42:35,794 Speaker 4: that we had to worry about, I wouldn't be concerned. 909 00:42:35,953 --> 00:42:37,593 Speaker 9: Well, I had to take the other day that people 910 00:42:37,754 --> 00:42:40,513 Speaker 9: cracked up out. I think you might have been in 911 00:42:40,554 --> 00:42:43,234 Speaker 9: the little annex with me, but I was saying, like, 912 00:42:43,354 --> 00:42:46,794 Speaker 9: it's really hard to be like, it's hard to be 913 00:42:46,994 --> 00:42:49,194 Speaker 9: ugly as a woman in twenty twenty four because there's 914 00:42:49,194 --> 00:42:52,433 Speaker 9: so many things you can do. There's makeup, there's procedures, 915 00:42:52,913 --> 00:42:56,714 Speaker 9: like it's botox, Like I don't know if you're not trying, 916 00:42:57,994 --> 00:42:59,033 Speaker 9: you're just not have. 917 00:42:59,074 --> 00:43:01,794 Speaker 4: You're given up, honey, you're just giving Well, there's. 918 00:43:01,674 --> 00:43:03,674 Speaker 9: Like a lot of really beautiful like everywhere I go, 919 00:43:03,794 --> 00:43:05,794 Speaker 9: I'm like, Wow, that's a beautiful woman. This, that's a 920 00:43:05,834 --> 00:43:08,794 Speaker 9: really pretty girl. You know, with men, it's not the same. 921 00:43:09,034 --> 00:43:10,554 Speaker 4: No, I agree, because we don't have a lot of 922 00:43:10,634 --> 00:43:11,034 Speaker 4: things to do. 923 00:43:12,314 --> 00:43:14,954 Speaker 3: You lose your hair, adding go to Turkey. 924 00:43:15,074 --> 00:43:17,194 Speaker 9: Now you can go to Turkey. You get hair places. 925 00:43:17,994 --> 00:43:21,914 Speaker 3: Today with they do the same thing. There's men today 926 00:43:21,953 --> 00:43:25,794 Speaker 3: that where eyelin are? You know that's a much for me, 927 00:43:26,554 --> 00:43:29,234 Speaker 3: Like I'm not you know, I'm not talking about you know, 928 00:43:29,834 --> 00:43:34,754 Speaker 3: drag queens or anything. I'm talking about just guys, just guys, 929 00:43:34,913 --> 00:43:36,594 Speaker 3: like some of them are eyeliner. 930 00:43:36,754 --> 00:43:39,153 Speaker 9: I have a friend who works in sports media. He's 931 00:43:39,234 --> 00:43:42,794 Speaker 9: been preemptibly using rogue for like a decade. He has 932 00:43:42,834 --> 00:43:44,993 Speaker 9: a full head of hair, but it's preemptory. 933 00:43:45,834 --> 00:43:49,993 Speaker 3: Yeah, well like his genetics, his family loses their hair, 934 00:43:50,074 --> 00:43:51,834 Speaker 3: so getting out. 935 00:43:51,834 --> 00:43:54,754 Speaker 9: I'll have to ask and report back for you. He's 936 00:43:54,794 --> 00:43:57,473 Speaker 9: been very open about this, so I wouldn't feel bad 937 00:43:57,514 --> 00:44:02,674 Speaker 9: name dropping. But I'm gonna wait, it's. 938 00:44:02,554 --> 00:44:07,834 Speaker 3: Too late to that. Let's see. Katina says she has 939 00:44:07,913 --> 00:44:11,993 Speaker 3: some false star practice suggestions. I always assume that if 940 00:44:12,034 --> 00:44:14,794 Speaker 3: you're not a particularly talented player, you can focus on 941 00:44:14,913 --> 00:44:17,794 Speaker 3: how to improve on things that don't rely on athletic ability. 942 00:44:18,994 --> 00:44:21,634 Speaker 3: If sprinters and swimmers can practice getting off the block, 943 00:44:22,354 --> 00:44:24,954 Speaker 3: how can these guys not practice standing in their formation 944 00:44:25,114 --> 00:44:27,993 Speaker 3: in not moving. I get that oftentimes this gets viewed 945 00:44:27,994 --> 00:44:29,794 Speaker 3: as a sign of bad coaching, But how do you 946 00:44:29,913 --> 00:44:32,634 Speaker 3: coach this? Can you coach this, If my six year 947 00:44:32,674 --> 00:44:35,993 Speaker 3: old managed to win the Family Freeze dance competition by 948 00:44:36,114 --> 00:44:40,034 Speaker 3: practicing a lot, surely these professional athletes can attempt to 949 00:44:40,114 --> 00:44:43,274 Speaker 3: master not moving before they have to have they tried 950 00:44:43,354 --> 00:44:46,993 Speaker 3: practicing with music. Surely this won't count as practice time 951 00:44:47,074 --> 00:44:50,033 Speaker 3: because it's fun. They can even try it over Thanksgiving 952 00:44:50,114 --> 00:44:50,873 Speaker 3: with their families. 953 00:44:51,234 --> 00:44:52,634 Speaker 4: I get instead of eating turkey. 954 00:44:53,114 --> 00:44:55,873 Speaker 3: I get this as an oversimplification, but come on, they 955 00:44:55,953 --> 00:44:57,314 Speaker 3: need to stop beating themselves. 956 00:44:57,554 --> 00:44:58,954 Speaker 9: No, I think it might be on something. 957 00:44:59,234 --> 00:45:02,554 Speaker 7: I mean, Alex van Pelt said today this film on 958 00:45:02,634 --> 00:45:05,714 Speaker 7: Sunday from practice of them last week having a bunch 959 00:45:05,714 --> 00:45:07,754 Speaker 7: of false starts. So what you do in practice carries 960 00:45:07,794 --> 00:45:09,433 Speaker 7: over and I think you're totally right. 961 00:45:09,514 --> 00:45:11,194 Speaker 3: They need to play musical chairs. 962 00:45:11,274 --> 00:45:12,114 Speaker 9: I was thinking that too. 963 00:45:12,393 --> 00:45:12,633 Speaker 4: Again. 964 00:45:12,674 --> 00:45:14,513 Speaker 7: I just wish they tell us this before the game, 965 00:45:14,594 --> 00:45:16,154 Speaker 7: like can we do Friday where like, coach, we need 966 00:45:16,234 --> 00:45:17,953 Speaker 7: practice reportings like a lot of false starts this week, 967 00:45:17,953 --> 00:45:19,794 Speaker 7: and then we'll be like this isn't looking good, you know, like, 968 00:45:19,873 --> 00:45:21,913 Speaker 7: oh it's really clean. That may make me feel a 969 00:45:21,913 --> 00:45:22,274 Speaker 7: little more. 970 00:45:22,594 --> 00:45:24,033 Speaker 4: I know, like tell me if you suck all week 971 00:45:24,074 --> 00:45:26,194 Speaker 4: in practice and imagine when would have picked for that game, 972 00:45:27,234 --> 00:45:27,714 Speaker 4: not going in. 973 00:45:27,953 --> 00:45:29,513 Speaker 7: Yeah, like the Friday Press convers he is like, it's 974 00:45:29,554 --> 00:45:30,513 Speaker 7: not looking good this of you guys. 975 00:45:30,554 --> 00:45:35,354 Speaker 4: We're not locked in at all. Gotta be honest. Fade 976 00:45:35,354 --> 00:45:38,993 Speaker 4: would fade parlance, you know. Sorry. 977 00:45:41,473 --> 00:45:45,393 Speaker 3: Jordan in Kansas rites in what are some Thanksgiving treditions 978 00:45:45,473 --> 00:45:48,234 Speaker 3: besides watching the Cowboys lose a football game? Here are 979 00:45:48,274 --> 00:45:51,393 Speaker 3: my guesses for you all. One Evan doesn't talk much 980 00:45:51,473 --> 00:45:54,594 Speaker 3: during Thanksgiving because people are talking politics and not football. 981 00:45:54,953 --> 00:45:58,274 Speaker 3: Two Alex seems like the type to bring store bought 982 00:45:58,433 --> 00:46:04,034 Speaker 3: pies and sits at the kids table. I don't know 983 00:46:04,034 --> 00:46:05,433 Speaker 3: if he means Barthur Alex. 984 00:46:05,754 --> 00:46:07,594 Speaker 9: She's emailing and elaborate. 985 00:46:08,834 --> 00:46:11,794 Speaker 3: Three Fred buys stretchy pants so he can move around 986 00:46:11,834 --> 00:46:14,953 Speaker 3: a little. He also argues that dessert doesn't count as 987 00:46:14,953 --> 00:46:19,674 Speaker 3: a plate. Four Mike feels awful the day after and 988 00:46:19,794 --> 00:46:22,794 Speaker 3: goes to the gym for a week, then quits. And 989 00:46:23,034 --> 00:46:26,073 Speaker 3: five Paul is skipping this year's Thanksgiving because he's saving 990 00:46:26,194 --> 00:46:31,194 Speaker 3: up to buy a car because money's tight. Yep, that 991 00:46:31,393 --> 00:46:31,834 Speaker 3: is accurate. 992 00:46:31,994 --> 00:46:33,674 Speaker 9: They have the jokes, but no one started to go 993 00:46:33,834 --> 00:46:34,794 Speaker 9: fund me for you yet. 994 00:46:34,873 --> 00:46:39,033 Speaker 4: No I'm waiting, No, I'm waiting. We'll get your car now, 995 00:46:39,594 --> 00:46:42,234 Speaker 4: there's a lot of worse things in life than having 996 00:46:42,274 --> 00:46:44,034 Speaker 4: a car that's not the most reliable. 997 00:46:44,034 --> 00:46:45,994 Speaker 7: I know I'm going to take mine in on Tuesday, 998 00:46:46,074 --> 00:46:48,314 Speaker 7: so we'll hold our breath about that rear issue that 999 00:46:48,393 --> 00:46:49,074 Speaker 7: I have to. 1000 00:46:49,034 --> 00:46:50,913 Speaker 3: Get mine inspected December. 1001 00:46:51,794 --> 00:46:53,114 Speaker 4: But it will get inspected. 1002 00:46:53,433 --> 00:46:54,194 Speaker 3: I would imagine. 1003 00:46:54,274 --> 00:46:54,913 Speaker 4: I'm like mine. 1004 00:46:55,074 --> 00:46:57,473 Speaker 9: By the way, no longer you can milk it out. 1005 00:46:58,154 --> 00:46:58,993 Speaker 3: I thought you could do it. 1006 00:46:59,794 --> 00:47:01,954 Speaker 4: I got options. It's not going to get expected. 1007 00:47:01,994 --> 00:47:04,274 Speaker 7: You're aware you have a headlight out right, yes, okay, good. 1008 00:47:04,594 --> 00:47:05,913 Speaker 7: I was pulling out in front of you the other 1009 00:47:06,034 --> 00:47:09,593 Speaker 7: day and I was like, looking at there's another Yep, 1010 00:47:10,754 --> 00:47:11,154 Speaker 7: what's the. 1011 00:47:12,714 --> 00:47:14,513 Speaker 3: I'm glad you still know that car is. 1012 00:47:14,554 --> 00:47:22,873 Speaker 7: Like that truck on Sandal thing was when you're riding 1013 00:47:22,913 --> 00:47:23,354 Speaker 7: with your friends. 1014 00:47:23,354 --> 00:47:23,953 Speaker 3: At least I don't know. 1015 00:47:24,034 --> 00:47:25,994 Speaker 7: I was chiming and you see it with one headlight, 1016 00:47:26,034 --> 00:47:27,754 Speaker 7: you say padidtal and then you can punch your friend. 1017 00:47:27,913 --> 00:47:29,634 Speaker 4: Yep, right, Oh, I did not know that. 1018 00:47:29,994 --> 00:47:31,834 Speaker 7: You didn't know that no punch your friends. 1019 00:47:31,994 --> 00:47:34,194 Speaker 4: But yeah, I noticed it. I think Monday, when I 1020 00:47:34,234 --> 00:47:36,674 Speaker 4: got home from work. Usually when I pull in my driveway, 1021 00:47:36,754 --> 00:47:39,554 Speaker 4: I can see into the back you know, the backyard, 1022 00:47:39,994 --> 00:47:41,913 Speaker 4: and I was like it looks awfully dark, and I 1023 00:47:41,994 --> 00:47:44,993 Speaker 4: clicked on the high beams. I'm like, oh, yeah, now 1024 00:47:45,074 --> 00:47:47,993 Speaker 4: I can see. So I have to get an oil 1025 00:47:48,114 --> 00:47:50,834 Speaker 4: change anyway. I'm due this week, so I figured I'll 1026 00:47:50,873 --> 00:47:53,594 Speaker 4: get them the headlight one then too, Rachel. And then 1027 00:47:53,594 --> 00:47:55,834 Speaker 4: they're going to say, you know you're engine Hey, yeah, 1028 00:47:55,994 --> 00:47:58,033 Speaker 4: that's been since early twenty two. 1029 00:47:58,194 --> 00:47:59,834 Speaker 9: They always say that to you, like they're breaking some 1030 00:47:59,994 --> 00:48:03,114 Speaker 9: news to you. I don't see my dashboard, I know, 1031 00:48:03,234 --> 00:48:03,433 Speaker 9: do you know. 1032 00:48:04,873 --> 00:48:08,473 Speaker 3: Oh it's a big thing. Yes, gaskets catalytic convert oh, 1033 00:48:10,314 --> 00:48:11,033 Speaker 3: finish each other soon. 1034 00:48:11,114 --> 00:48:13,993 Speaker 4: Anybody has a catalytic like to not only buy for me, 1035 00:48:14,074 --> 00:48:15,193 Speaker 4: but install for free. 1036 00:48:15,393 --> 00:48:18,073 Speaker 3: Here's a question I have for anyone. You see all 1037 00:48:18,114 --> 00:48:22,434 Speaker 3: these commercials on TV and they've increase the different companies 1038 00:48:22,473 --> 00:48:27,673 Speaker 3: about insurance for maintenance, you know, like car insuran. 1039 00:48:27,714 --> 00:48:29,234 Speaker 4: Its a good idea, it's good, is it? 1040 00:48:29,554 --> 00:48:30,274 Speaker 3: Is it a good deal? 1041 00:48:30,314 --> 00:48:31,634 Speaker 7: I don't know if I do it, but I always 1042 00:48:31,674 --> 00:48:33,794 Speaker 7: feel like it's I mean, I probably spent more on 1043 00:48:33,953 --> 00:48:36,354 Speaker 7: my car than I would say I spent on medical expense. 1044 00:48:36,393 --> 00:48:38,794 Speaker 3: Well, the advertising makes it seem like a good deal, 1045 00:48:38,913 --> 00:48:40,914 Speaker 3: but to me, there has to be a catch. 1046 00:48:41,114 --> 00:48:43,433 Speaker 7: Yeah, probably, But I think we all agree, like and 1047 00:48:43,514 --> 00:48:45,194 Speaker 7: you're gonna take your car, and like whenever you take 1048 00:48:45,234 --> 00:48:47,314 Speaker 7: your car and you're spinning like the wheel of death. 1049 00:48:47,194 --> 00:48:48,593 Speaker 3: Oh're gonna be hold your brain. 1050 00:48:48,794 --> 00:48:49,234 Speaker 4: Bad news. 1051 00:48:49,433 --> 00:48:51,433 Speaker 7: You know, if you got more work it's gonna cost 1052 00:48:51,473 --> 00:48:52,274 Speaker 7: more than the car's work. 1053 00:48:52,354 --> 00:48:54,633 Speaker 3: Then you never trust them, you know, are they really 1054 00:48:54,714 --> 00:48:55,274 Speaker 3: being honest? 1055 00:48:55,714 --> 00:48:58,554 Speaker 9: I had to replace my battery on Monday, actually, and 1056 00:48:59,154 --> 00:49:00,913 Speaker 9: just like looking into what it would have costed for 1057 00:49:01,074 --> 00:49:03,553 Speaker 9: labor if I wasn't gifted to have like a really 1058 00:49:03,634 --> 00:49:06,594 Speaker 9: mechanically inclined little brother, and like just men in my 1059 00:49:06,674 --> 00:49:08,953 Speaker 9: life that you know that stuff, Like I had a 1060 00:49:09,034 --> 00:49:12,073 Speaker 9: minimum a new battery. It's taking care of that day. 1061 00:49:12,194 --> 00:49:13,113 Speaker 4: That's like eighty bucks. 1062 00:49:13,674 --> 00:49:19,513 Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought it was not anymore. Inflation has battery. 1063 00:49:19,473 --> 00:49:21,034 Speaker 4: Top Like if you get if you have triple A 1064 00:49:21,194 --> 00:49:26,354 Speaker 4: or something like that, they'll do it. There is no 1065 00:49:27,754 --> 00:49:28,914 Speaker 4: you got ale. 1066 00:49:29,514 --> 00:49:36,993 Speaker 9: Seven bottle and pick it up shout did it for me? 1067 00:49:37,674 --> 00:49:37,873 Speaker 3: Man? 1068 00:49:38,034 --> 00:49:42,393 Speaker 9: I just dealt with it, just I just picked it 1069 00:49:42,473 --> 00:49:43,993 Speaker 9: up at the store. It's the worst heavy. 1070 00:49:44,473 --> 00:49:47,554 Speaker 3: I hate cars. Rachel doesn't agree with you and me, 1071 00:49:47,913 --> 00:49:51,073 Speaker 3: that's okay. I'm not understanding Fred and Paul's argument here. 1072 00:49:51,234 --> 00:49:53,634 Speaker 3: You can't add seasoning to something or else. You just 1073 00:49:53,794 --> 00:49:55,433 Speaker 3: like the taste of the season you have the meat. 1074 00:49:55,834 --> 00:49:57,794 Speaker 3: Do you guys not season a steak when you eat it? 1075 00:49:57,994 --> 00:50:01,433 Speaker 3: So you like salt nottak? Poor take all around, and 1076 00:50:01,554 --> 00:50:04,074 Speaker 3: it seems more like you've had poorly prepared turkey in 1077 00:50:04,154 --> 00:50:06,594 Speaker 3: your life. No offense to your wives and mothers. Turkey 1078 00:50:06,754 --> 00:50:10,474 Speaker 3: is the superior holiday food when compared to ham or chicken, 1079 00:50:10,754 --> 00:50:13,514 Speaker 3: the most common. Okay, so here's my question for Rachel 1080 00:50:13,554 --> 00:50:16,074 Speaker 3: and everybody else. How come then you only eat turkey 1081 00:50:16,154 --> 00:50:22,513 Speaker 3: one day a year? Is your? God? Right? I mean? 1082 00:50:23,034 --> 00:50:25,953 Speaker 3: You know, you go to a re stawant and people 1083 00:50:26,114 --> 00:50:28,674 Speaker 3: order roast beef. Nobody goes to a restaurant orders turkey. 1084 00:50:28,754 --> 00:50:30,554 Speaker 7: So just open face hot turkey sandwich. 1085 00:50:30,554 --> 00:50:32,714 Speaker 9: I think a pretty coo go to a restaurant hand. 1086 00:50:32,634 --> 00:50:36,554 Speaker 4: So open face hot turkey sandwich. What's on that gravy? 1087 00:50:36,794 --> 00:50:41,433 Speaker 1: Correct tons unflavored steak versus unflavored turkey. The steak has 1088 00:50:41,473 --> 00:50:41,994 Speaker 1: more flavors. 1089 00:50:42,034 --> 00:50:44,674 Speaker 4: Oh God, at the point, and I just want to 1090 00:50:46,194 --> 00:50:48,033 Speaker 4: a lot of people like turkey and I and I'm 1091 00:50:48,034 --> 00:50:50,354 Speaker 4: probably in the minority. So I understand that Fred and 1092 00:50:50,433 --> 00:50:52,993 Speaker 4: I are on probably the losing side of this in 1093 00:50:53,114 --> 00:50:55,794 Speaker 4: terms of the majority. But I didn't say that I 1094 00:50:55,834 --> 00:50:59,873 Speaker 4: didn't season anything. Don't confuse seasoning like seasoning is not 1095 00:51:00,154 --> 00:51:04,714 Speaker 4: like marinade, basting water, you know, like all these different 1096 00:51:04,754 --> 00:51:08,473 Speaker 4: things you put sauces and gravies. Like if you have 1097 00:51:08,554 --> 00:51:12,794 Speaker 4: a good filet, yeah, sure you put some salt on it, salt, pepper, 1098 00:51:12,873 --> 00:51:17,794 Speaker 4: but you're not dousing it. You're not giving chick chick 1099 00:51:18,834 --> 00:51:19,953 Speaker 4: a one sauce. 1100 00:51:19,674 --> 00:51:20,513 Speaker 6: On the same thing. 1101 00:51:20,754 --> 00:51:23,234 Speaker 9: Is the same thing could be said about chicken. Are 1102 00:51:23,274 --> 00:51:28,074 Speaker 9: you just having a piece of chicken breast with no sauce, nothing, but. 1103 00:51:29,674 --> 00:51:32,154 Speaker 3: Saying I put chicken in turkey in the same category. 1104 00:51:32,234 --> 00:51:34,393 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think chicken is slightly better than turkey, but 1105 00:51:34,433 --> 00:51:36,433 Speaker 4: I would say that the problems that I have with 1106 00:51:36,514 --> 00:51:38,154 Speaker 4: both are similar. They generally drop. 1107 00:51:38,514 --> 00:51:41,114 Speaker 9: You should just put the tasteless gets the size like 1108 00:51:41,234 --> 00:51:43,714 Speaker 9: Alex Like, yeah, I know, and people were hating on 1109 00:51:43,834 --> 00:51:46,073 Speaker 9: me for that, But every chef you ask a chef 1110 00:51:46,754 --> 00:51:48,714 Speaker 9: chicken thighs or chicken breast are picking thighs. 1111 00:51:50,634 --> 00:51:54,993 Speaker 4: Chicken thighs are good now in full disclosure, it's better 1112 00:51:55,114 --> 00:51:59,433 Speaker 4: with like either barbecue sauce or like a mao like 1113 00:51:59,674 --> 00:52:02,834 Speaker 4: Beth makes a terrific, like those chicken thighs with a 1114 00:52:02,913 --> 00:52:06,473 Speaker 4: maple bourbon that they're really really good. But again I 1115 00:52:06,754 --> 00:52:08,874 Speaker 4: like the sauce, not the chicken. 1116 00:52:09,114 --> 00:52:10,433 Speaker 7: So you go to Saint Almost would you get a 1117 00:52:10,473 --> 00:52:11,553 Speaker 7: sauce on the side of your steak? 1118 00:52:11,634 --> 00:52:13,913 Speaker 4: Now, straight up, what if it took You've been out 1119 00:52:13,953 --> 00:52:17,594 Speaker 4: with me many times. If you get a good steak, 1120 00:52:17,594 --> 00:52:18,594 Speaker 4: you don't need anything with it. 1121 00:52:18,714 --> 00:52:21,274 Speaker 3: Now I'll give you an example. Okay, so prime rib 1122 00:52:22,274 --> 00:52:24,754 Speaker 3: is a red you know, it's a red, but it 1123 00:52:24,834 --> 00:52:28,074 Speaker 3: has a little less taste. So with prime rib, usually 1124 00:52:28,154 --> 00:52:31,953 Speaker 3: have ojou with it or horse radish sauce. Eating just 1125 00:52:32,114 --> 00:52:35,033 Speaker 3: prime rib, I can do it, but it's not as 1126 00:52:35,074 --> 00:52:36,794 Speaker 3: good as steak, you know. 1127 00:52:37,274 --> 00:52:40,553 Speaker 4: And I wouldn't get you know, like yeah, like that's 1128 00:52:40,634 --> 00:52:43,794 Speaker 4: good roast beef. You get a you know, French dip. 1129 00:52:43,873 --> 00:52:47,834 Speaker 4: That's you gotta dip, that's that's the name. 1130 00:52:47,913 --> 00:52:50,314 Speaker 9: You should just get a red sauce and some peccorina 1131 00:52:50,393 --> 00:52:52,993 Speaker 9: romano that was your turkey over it. Make it like 1132 00:52:53,034 --> 00:52:53,873 Speaker 9: it's a chicken palm. 1133 00:52:54,433 --> 00:52:55,393 Speaker 7: Fool yourself. 1134 00:52:56,674 --> 00:52:58,114 Speaker 3: And so that it doesn't taste. 1135 00:53:01,953 --> 00:53:02,234 Speaker 13: With me. 1136 00:53:02,674 --> 00:53:06,234 Speaker 9: Because I grew up with my grandparents always having rabbits 1137 00:53:06,634 --> 00:53:09,274 Speaker 9: I named all the rabbits. They were my pets rabbits. 1138 00:53:09,314 --> 00:53:12,194 Speaker 9: And the next thing I know, my grandfather rest in 1139 00:53:12,314 --> 00:53:15,154 Speaker 9: peace is skinning the rabbits from my swing set at 1140 00:53:15,194 --> 00:53:18,154 Speaker 9: his house, and I'm eating the rabbits. So that traumatized. 1141 00:53:18,274 --> 00:53:21,114 Speaker 9: So you can eat anything, well, yes, I've been referred 1142 00:53:21,114 --> 00:53:24,154 Speaker 9: to as a human garbage as supposible before. But I 1143 00:53:24,794 --> 00:53:28,154 Speaker 9: became really sensitive about rabbit. I would not eat it 1144 00:53:28,274 --> 00:53:30,594 Speaker 9: for a really long time. So for years my family 1145 00:53:30,634 --> 00:53:32,594 Speaker 9: told me it was chicken. I did not know the difference. 1146 00:53:33,234 --> 00:53:36,393 Speaker 3: Oh really, and then rabbit would be a little bit 1147 00:53:36,473 --> 00:53:38,074 Speaker 3: more gamey, gamey. 1148 00:53:39,554 --> 00:53:40,393 Speaker 9: Rabbit's really good. 1149 00:53:40,794 --> 00:53:41,953 Speaker 4: It's it's like TJ's room. 1150 00:53:44,074 --> 00:53:45,474 Speaker 3: But you like lamb. 1151 00:53:46,554 --> 00:53:50,194 Speaker 4: Lamb is good. I've had lamb tips. I don't think 1152 00:53:50,234 --> 00:53:51,114 Speaker 4: I've ever had rabbit. 1153 00:53:51,754 --> 00:53:51,953 Speaker 9: Really. 1154 00:53:52,554 --> 00:53:54,473 Speaker 4: My dad definitely had lamb tips. They are good. 1155 00:53:54,913 --> 00:53:57,033 Speaker 7: My dad went hunting rabbit once and he shot one, 1156 00:53:57,154 --> 00:53:58,953 Speaker 7: and I guess, if you don't kill him, they cry 1157 00:53:59,074 --> 00:53:59,634 Speaker 7: like babies. 1158 00:53:59,714 --> 00:54:01,913 Speaker 4: And that was my dad went hunting. 1159 00:54:02,794 --> 00:54:05,034 Speaker 7: I did my dad in for hunting out crying rabbits. 1160 00:54:05,074 --> 00:54:07,554 Speaker 9: It's all my trauma stories with animals are with rabbits. 1161 00:54:07,674 --> 00:54:09,673 Speaker 9: I was at a driving range with like some old 1162 00:54:09,873 --> 00:54:14,433 Speaker 9: coworkers once from Nelson and Gary Streiski hit a drive 1163 00:54:14,514 --> 00:54:17,114 Speaker 9: in the driving range and hit a rabbit and the 1164 00:54:17,194 --> 00:54:19,433 Speaker 9: rabbit started seizing right in front of us. 1165 00:54:19,594 --> 00:54:23,154 Speaker 3: And just, I just I just don't like sad people 1166 00:54:23,194 --> 00:54:24,754 Speaker 3: are the animals suffer? 1167 00:54:25,314 --> 00:54:26,873 Speaker 9: What he liked, He's great. 1168 00:54:29,034 --> 00:54:32,513 Speaker 4: I enjoyed that. I love that's Saturday morning combination of 1169 00:54:32,594 --> 00:54:34,513 Speaker 4: him and Randy Scott was here. 1170 00:54:34,754 --> 00:54:35,913 Speaker 9: That's how they are in real life. 1171 00:54:36,393 --> 00:54:38,754 Speaker 4: And Randy Scott was a really guy in the locker room. 1172 00:54:38,794 --> 00:54:40,194 Speaker 4: I didn't know Gary at all. I don't think I've 1173 00:54:40,194 --> 00:54:41,554 Speaker 4: ever met him. But Randy he's. 1174 00:54:41,433 --> 00:54:43,393 Speaker 9: Exactly how you think he's going to be based on 1175 00:54:43,514 --> 00:54:46,154 Speaker 9: his his on air, Like that's just him. 1176 00:54:46,194 --> 00:54:47,913 Speaker 4: But I have a lot of fun I like. I 1177 00:54:48,034 --> 00:54:49,434 Speaker 4: like watching him on Saturday mornings. 1178 00:54:50,114 --> 00:54:50,234 Speaker 13: Uh. 1179 00:54:50,674 --> 00:54:53,154 Speaker 3: Back to the tp X hotline. Danny's in Florida. 1180 00:54:53,194 --> 00:54:54,794 Speaker 4: Hey, Danny, Oh, Donnie. 1181 00:54:55,754 --> 00:54:56,634 Speaker 8: Hey, what's going on? 1182 00:54:56,834 --> 00:54:57,434 Speaker 13: Paul Fred? 1183 00:54:57,714 --> 00:54:57,913 Speaker 3: Hey? 1184 00:54:58,794 --> 00:54:58,953 Speaker 9: Hey? 1185 00:54:59,074 --> 00:54:59,873 Speaker 4: Happy Thanksgiving? 1186 00:55:00,794 --> 00:55:03,473 Speaker 8: Hey Happy Thanksgiving to you guys. Yeah. I tried to 1187 00:55:03,473 --> 00:55:07,114 Speaker 8: call him, Yes, sir, I apologize for the the sound. 1188 00:55:07,314 --> 00:55:07,433 Speaker 3: You know. 1189 00:55:07,473 --> 00:55:09,114 Speaker 14: I'm like biggie, I've been driving on the road with 1190 00:55:09,154 --> 00:55:12,634 Speaker 14: a big trump, so I h my topic today. 1191 00:55:12,674 --> 00:55:13,634 Speaker 8: There's a few topics. 1192 00:55:13,634 --> 00:55:16,474 Speaker 14: I want to mention that I tried to mention yesterday, 1193 00:55:17,634 --> 00:55:20,594 Speaker 14: I'm gonna agree with with your with your guys Fred 1194 00:55:21,634 --> 00:55:25,473 Speaker 14: or not Paul, with Zmac and Bert Dan and those 1195 00:55:25,473 --> 00:55:29,473 Speaker 14: guys on my name point five spurts of I was 1196 00:55:29,554 --> 00:55:31,953 Speaker 14: listening to the Breer today. 1197 00:55:31,714 --> 00:55:34,594 Speaker 8: And yesterday in the last few days, and he's. 1198 00:55:34,433 --> 00:55:37,834 Speaker 14: Been saying exactly what I've been saying since the beginning 1199 00:55:37,834 --> 00:55:38,234 Speaker 14: of the season. 1200 00:55:38,234 --> 00:55:40,114 Speaker 8: Because I was, I was worried about it. 1201 00:55:41,554 --> 00:55:41,913 Speaker 9: I didn't. 1202 00:55:42,034 --> 00:55:44,993 Speaker 14: I don't the reason I don't like Elliott Wolfson, I 1203 00:55:45,074 --> 00:55:48,154 Speaker 14: don't like Mayo. I just don't think for this situation 1204 00:55:48,314 --> 00:55:50,554 Speaker 14: and right now the team the stated who was in. 1205 00:55:51,274 --> 00:55:53,594 Speaker 14: Maybe on a good team like maybe the Chiefs or 1206 00:55:53,953 --> 00:55:56,634 Speaker 14: the Jacksonville they would have been in an okay situation 1207 00:55:56,714 --> 00:55:59,554 Speaker 14: because they have a decent, a good roster, but the 1208 00:55:59,674 --> 00:56:02,794 Speaker 14: condition the way it is now, those two guys are 1209 00:56:02,873 --> 00:56:05,674 Speaker 14: not fit for this current job. And I just think 1210 00:56:05,754 --> 00:56:08,234 Speaker 14: that that's always going to be the problem, and the 1211 00:56:08,354 --> 00:56:10,913 Speaker 14: craft Will just went into this approach of just being 1212 00:56:11,034 --> 00:56:15,114 Speaker 14: lazy and instead of interviewing, Brier named so many Canadas 1213 00:56:15,554 --> 00:56:17,913 Speaker 14: across the league from all these different hop teams that 1214 00:56:17,953 --> 00:56:19,513 Speaker 14: they could have brought in and interviewed in they offer 1215 00:56:19,634 --> 00:56:21,433 Speaker 14: to say, oh screw, we're not going to do that, 1216 00:56:21,834 --> 00:56:24,354 Speaker 14: and then okay, so they want to keep drawing mail. 1217 00:56:24,473 --> 00:56:27,274 Speaker 8: That's fine, but he has no experience. 1218 00:56:27,754 --> 00:56:30,433 Speaker 14: Why not bring in They did on the offensive side, 1219 00:56:30,433 --> 00:56:33,033 Speaker 14: they brought in Ben McAdoo and they had Alex van Pep, 1220 00:56:33,354 --> 00:56:35,754 Speaker 14: two guys that are pretty experienced, but they didn't bring 1221 00:56:35,794 --> 00:56:38,953 Speaker 14: anybody experience on the defensive side. If they want to 1222 00:56:39,034 --> 00:56:41,473 Speaker 14: keep Mano as the head coach as far so, they 1223 00:56:41,514 --> 00:56:44,714 Speaker 14: don't bring in no senior defensive analysts or someone that 1224 00:56:44,794 --> 00:56:47,314 Speaker 14: could come in and help de Marcus coming in. 1225 00:56:47,873 --> 00:56:48,993 Speaker 8: Brier made another point. 1226 00:56:49,393 --> 00:56:53,234 Speaker 14: He said that if you look at across the league, 1227 00:56:53,554 --> 00:56:56,714 Speaker 14: it's very rare to see a defensive line coach so 1228 00:56:56,873 --> 00:57:00,073 Speaker 14: straight to becoming a coordinator and having success, and which 1229 00:57:00,194 --> 00:57:00,594 Speaker 14: is true. 1230 00:57:01,554 --> 00:57:03,033 Speaker 8: There was a point with you. 1231 00:57:03,074 --> 00:57:06,634 Speaker 14: See, at Baltimore they had their linebackers, so he worked 1232 00:57:06,674 --> 00:57:08,473 Speaker 14: on the staff for a long long time and then 1233 00:57:08,514 --> 00:57:11,114 Speaker 14: he promoted up to the ranks to become the coordinator. 1234 00:57:11,594 --> 00:57:14,153 Speaker 14: You see if you look at Miami, how Anthony Weaver 1235 00:57:14,314 --> 00:57:16,794 Speaker 14: was a defensive line coach. He struggled in the beginning 1236 00:57:16,834 --> 00:57:19,754 Speaker 14: of getting the defense right in Miami and they're just 1237 00:57:19,914 --> 00:57:21,234 Speaker 14: now starting to come on de. 1238 00:57:21,314 --> 00:57:22,114 Speaker 8: Marcus the struggle. 1239 00:57:22,194 --> 00:57:24,554 Speaker 14: I don't really think he knows the back end of 1240 00:57:24,594 --> 00:57:27,154 Speaker 14: the defense, or really the middle end of the defense. 1241 00:57:27,514 --> 00:57:29,634 Speaker 8: And I think just as a defensive line coach, he 1242 00:57:29,794 --> 00:57:31,034 Speaker 8: wasn't ready for this position. 1243 00:57:31,394 --> 00:57:32,834 Speaker 11: He needed to go work in the. 1244 00:57:32,874 --> 00:57:37,274 Speaker 14: Secondary, learn how more how the secondary operates, work in 1245 00:57:37,394 --> 00:57:40,794 Speaker 14: the middle back as the linebacker's coach, and then do 1246 00:57:40,954 --> 00:57:43,674 Speaker 14: what like Bryan Flores did. He started off working in 1247 00:57:43,754 --> 00:57:45,714 Speaker 14: the secondary, he worked in a linebacker. 1248 00:57:45,794 --> 00:57:48,434 Speaker 8: Now look what he's doing in Minnesota. Everyone's confused. 1249 00:57:48,634 --> 00:57:50,634 Speaker 14: They don't even know, they don't even know. 1250 00:57:51,154 --> 00:57:52,194 Speaker 8: Where the blitz is coming from. 1251 00:57:52,234 --> 00:57:54,434 Speaker 14: Brian Flores is doing a fantastic job. 1252 00:57:54,514 --> 00:57:57,674 Speaker 8: And I think that's just the no. 1253 00:57:57,834 --> 00:58:00,474 Speaker 3: I get it, Danny. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Yeah, 1254 00:58:00,554 --> 00:58:02,234 Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying. Thanks for the call. 1255 00:58:03,754 --> 00:58:06,954 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I mean I think there's some truth to 1256 00:58:07,554 --> 00:58:09,874 Speaker 4: you know that there's some newness. We talked about this 1257 00:58:09,994 --> 00:58:11,914 Speaker 4: all off season. There's a lot of guys in roles 1258 00:58:11,954 --> 00:58:13,554 Speaker 4: that they've never been in before, and there's going to 1259 00:58:13,594 --> 00:58:14,394 Speaker 4: be a learning curve, right. 1260 00:58:14,434 --> 00:58:17,194 Speaker 3: I think this no coming to it's interesting because, like 1261 00:58:17,274 --> 00:58:19,794 Speaker 3: he said, he makes a good point. Whether it's Macado 1262 00:58:19,914 --> 00:58:23,314 Speaker 3: or Vampel, they've had experience, you know, they've you know, 1263 00:58:23,474 --> 00:58:26,714 Speaker 3: other than calling plays, but as far as coaching offense, 1264 00:58:26,794 --> 00:58:32,073 Speaker 3: they have a lot of experience coaching quarterbacks. Covington, he's 1265 00:58:32,114 --> 00:58:33,834 Speaker 3: a young guy and all he's done is the line. 1266 00:58:33,874 --> 00:58:36,073 Speaker 3: And I heard Brie last night, I was watching that show, 1267 00:58:36,474 --> 00:58:39,673 Speaker 3: and he said, you don't normally see a line coach 1268 00:58:39,834 --> 00:58:41,874 Speaker 3: go right from that to be a coordinator. 1269 00:58:42,074 --> 00:58:44,113 Speaker 7: Is it usually linebackers are secondary coach. 1270 00:58:44,194 --> 00:58:46,914 Speaker 3: Yeah. Usually, you know, usually they start at the line, 1271 00:58:46,954 --> 00:58:49,673 Speaker 3: they move back to the linebacker they started the back, 1272 00:58:49,754 --> 00:58:51,314 Speaker 3: and they move up, you know, so they get a 1273 00:58:51,394 --> 00:58:54,274 Speaker 3: little bit more of a feeling of the total defense 1274 00:58:54,394 --> 00:58:57,994 Speaker 3: before they get to be a coordinator. So it's it's 1275 00:58:58,234 --> 00:59:01,194 Speaker 3: it is an unusual route. It is a little bit. 1276 00:59:01,194 --> 00:59:03,634 Speaker 7: But I also think they kept coaches that have been 1277 00:59:03,714 --> 00:59:04,434 Speaker 7: in their positions. 1278 00:59:04,754 --> 00:59:07,314 Speaker 4: That's that's what I would have pushed back at, is 1279 00:59:07,954 --> 00:59:10,114 Speaker 4: what Mike is talking about. We just said it. You 1280 00:59:10,234 --> 00:59:12,834 Speaker 4: have Covington, you have Mayo, you have Pellegrino, you have 1281 00:59:12,954 --> 00:59:15,634 Speaker 4: Brian Belichick. Like there's a lot of guys that were 1282 00:59:15,674 --> 00:59:19,394 Speaker 4: in their roles. Yeah, yeah, you know, yep, So yes, 1283 00:59:19,514 --> 00:59:22,594 Speaker 4: he's calling the plays. Now they don't have a defensive coordinator, 1284 00:59:22,634 --> 00:59:23,554 Speaker 4: they didn't have anybody. 1285 00:59:23,794 --> 00:59:25,114 Speaker 3: But who's on the rock if you want to be 1286 00:59:25,114 --> 00:59:28,073 Speaker 3: the game plan team, who's coming up with that game plan? 1287 00:59:28,394 --> 00:59:30,234 Speaker 4: And now that's if you ask me, it should be 1288 00:59:30,314 --> 00:59:33,394 Speaker 4: Jerrod Mayo. Well that's what it was when Bill Belichick 1289 00:59:33,514 --> 00:59:33,874 Speaker 4: was the coach. 1290 00:59:33,994 --> 00:59:35,754 Speaker 3: That's I think a lot of people went into the 1291 00:59:35,794 --> 00:59:38,034 Speaker 3: season assuming that he was going to have a role 1292 00:59:38,114 --> 00:59:39,954 Speaker 3: in the defense. I don't know if he does or not, 1293 00:59:40,714 --> 00:59:45,114 Speaker 3: but whatever, it's not working now unfortunately. And you know, listen, 1294 00:59:45,194 --> 00:59:48,114 Speaker 3: there's other circumstances, I know, with the injuries and everything 1295 00:59:48,194 --> 00:59:48,394 Speaker 3: like that. 1296 00:59:48,594 --> 00:59:50,354 Speaker 4: But and what I don't know, because I don't know 1297 00:59:50,514 --> 00:59:55,074 Speaker 4: enough about the schemes and whatnot, is how much of 1298 00:59:55,194 --> 00:59:57,714 Speaker 4: the problems have been game plan related and how much 1299 00:59:57,754 --> 01:00:01,274 Speaker 4: of them is just EXE talent related and execution. They're 1300 01:00:01,354 --> 01:00:05,274 Speaker 4: talking a lot about execution, right, Well, that's the last 1301 01:00:05,394 --> 01:00:07,394 Speaker 4: the last week or two, you've heard a lot about. 1302 01:00:07,354 --> 01:00:09,073 Speaker 7: I mean, I was just not executed, I would say, 1303 01:00:09,114 --> 01:00:10,593 Speaker 7: kind of a whole year that's been. 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Yeah, I'm blessed, you, thankful a bunch of things. 1351 01:02:45,794 --> 01:02:48,754 Speaker 19: Got a great family, you know, great you know, great 1352 01:02:48,794 --> 01:02:50,314 Speaker 19: spot in my life. Just trying to take get into 1353 01:02:50,314 --> 01:02:52,434 Speaker 19: the opportunities that I have. I'm grate for this team, 1354 01:02:52,474 --> 01:02:56,554 Speaker 19: this organization, beref the Good Lord and you know, bless 1355 01:02:56,594 --> 01:02:58,274 Speaker 19: for you know all that He's given to me and 1356 01:02:58,394 --> 01:03:00,394 Speaker 19: you know his purpose. So just trying to live through 1357 01:03:00,434 --> 01:03:03,034 Speaker 19: that and just you know, thankful for you know, good 1358 01:03:03,074 --> 01:03:05,914 Speaker 19: people and un forgetting opportunity to Sunday. 1359 01:03:06,994 --> 01:03:09,474 Speaker 3: Like there were some inconsistencies or missed opportunities against the 1360 01:03:09,514 --> 01:03:11,394 Speaker 3: Blitz in Miami. Now that you've gotten to watch the 1361 01:03:11,434 --> 01:03:12,794 Speaker 3: film and talk to the guys, I was wondering, what 1362 01:03:12,874 --> 01:03:14,834 Speaker 3: do you think were of the biggest issues that popped up? 1363 01:03:15,914 --> 01:03:16,034 Speaker 13: Uh. 1364 01:03:17,514 --> 01:03:18,714 Speaker 19: I think the biggest thing is just be on the 1365 01:03:18,754 --> 01:03:20,874 Speaker 19: same page. I think, you know, I think you know, 1366 01:03:20,914 --> 01:03:22,834 Speaker 19: these guys are you know, working hard during the week, 1367 01:03:22,874 --> 01:03:25,274 Speaker 19: and I felt we're putting some good practice together. I 1368 01:03:25,274 --> 01:03:26,674 Speaker 19: think you just gotta translate to the field. I think 1369 01:03:26,714 --> 01:03:29,633 Speaker 19: it's different when those reps do count, and I think, 1370 01:03:29,754 --> 01:03:31,154 Speaker 19: you know, something we'll figure out. I think we've been 1371 01:03:31,354 --> 01:03:33,034 Speaker 19: good against the blitz you know in my time since 1372 01:03:33,554 --> 01:03:35,034 Speaker 19: uh I kind of became the starter, So I don't 1373 01:03:35,034 --> 01:03:36,674 Speaker 19: think it's something that we're gonna over harper about. I 1374 01:03:36,714 --> 01:03:39,034 Speaker 19: think sometimes you catch them in some things and try 1375 01:03:39,074 --> 01:03:42,474 Speaker 19: to exploit they're blitzes and from there to try to 1376 01:03:42,474 --> 01:03:43,674 Speaker 19: get the ball out, and they do a better job 1377 01:03:43,674 --> 01:03:45,034 Speaker 19: of getting the ball out and get it out faster. 1378 01:03:46,074 --> 01:03:49,234 Speaker 4: How would you descrive your mindset after that game, which 1379 01:03:49,274 --> 01:03:50,914 Speaker 4: obviously one of the more a couple ones you've had 1380 01:03:50,954 --> 01:03:52,674 Speaker 4: as a starter. Is it frustrated? 1381 01:03:52,754 --> 01:03:53,554 Speaker 3: Is it angry? 1382 01:03:53,834 --> 01:03:55,794 Speaker 4: But how would you kind of kind of put yourself 1383 01:03:55,834 --> 01:03:56,914 Speaker 4: in the spending place? 1384 01:03:57,074 --> 01:03:59,634 Speaker 19: No out frustrating? You know, you're out there and you 1385 01:03:59,754 --> 01:04:01,794 Speaker 19: got to you know, goosegg on the scoreboard for for 1386 01:04:02,114 --> 01:04:04,194 Speaker 19: you know, most of the game, and you feel like 1387 01:04:04,234 --> 01:04:06,113 Speaker 19: you're you're moving the ball just you're kind of hurting 1388 01:04:06,114 --> 01:04:09,274 Speaker 19: ourselves offensively. So I think just just mindset, keep going, 1389 01:04:09,354 --> 01:04:11,034 Speaker 19: you know, keep going, you get them. You know, we're 1390 01:04:11,034 --> 01:04:13,194 Speaker 19: gonna you know, filter, you know, filter some things out 1391 01:04:13,234 --> 01:04:15,074 Speaker 19: and and figure it out. And we've been moving the 1392 01:04:15,074 --> 01:04:17,474 Speaker 19: ball this year, so I'm just gonna start hurting ourselves 1393 01:04:17,514 --> 01:04:18,954 Speaker 19: and you know, whether it's in the red zone hurting 1394 01:04:18,954 --> 01:04:21,954 Speaker 19: ourselves or have star possessions on first down. So I 1395 01:04:22,034 --> 01:04:24,074 Speaker 19: think we got, you know, got the right guys in 1396 01:04:24,114 --> 01:04:25,954 Speaker 19: there that can make the plays. And I just gotta 1397 01:04:25,954 --> 01:04:27,914 Speaker 19: be a better job on my part of giving football 1398 01:04:27,954 --> 01:04:30,234 Speaker 19: and you know, getting the ball out faster to help 1399 01:04:30,274 --> 01:04:30,714 Speaker 19: you guys up. 1400 01:04:30,634 --> 01:04:32,394 Speaker 3: Front with some of the turnovers. 1401 01:04:32,434 --> 01:04:35,434 Speaker 4: It seems like sold them are when you're trailing trying 1402 01:04:35,474 --> 01:04:36,113 Speaker 4: to make the play. 1403 01:04:36,834 --> 01:04:38,994 Speaker 8: Are you confident that you'll be able to curse. 1404 01:04:38,874 --> 01:04:41,154 Speaker 3: Some of the turnovers but those aren't the situations that 1405 01:04:41,194 --> 01:04:41,514 Speaker 3: you're at. 1406 01:04:42,154 --> 01:04:43,713 Speaker 19: Yeah, I think I'm you know, I'm not too worried about, 1407 01:04:43,794 --> 01:04:45,634 Speaker 19: you know terms obviously, you know, you know, putting the 1408 01:04:45,674 --> 01:04:48,394 Speaker 19: ball and harm's way is a big emphasis for fastball 1409 01:04:48,394 --> 01:04:51,474 Speaker 19: team as a quarterback. But I think when you're trying 1410 01:04:51,514 --> 01:04:52,794 Speaker 19: to fight back and trying the game, you're trying to 1411 01:04:52,794 --> 01:04:54,474 Speaker 19: make some plays, you know, some of them, some of 1412 01:04:54,514 --> 01:04:56,914 Speaker 19: them happen. But I do think, you know, back on 1413 01:04:56,994 --> 01:04:58,434 Speaker 19: my saving I just haven't not worried about. I am 1414 01:04:58,474 --> 01:05:00,274 Speaker 19: worried about, you know, trying football over that's the problem. 1415 01:05:00,354 --> 01:05:02,154 Speaker 19: But at the end of the day, you can't turn 1416 01:05:02,154 --> 01:05:04,633 Speaker 19: the football over and especially you know, I think we're 1417 01:05:04,674 --> 01:05:07,034 Speaker 19: losing turnover margin and most of the games, you know, 1418 01:05:07,114 --> 01:05:09,194 Speaker 19: with with me back there, so I need something that 1419 01:05:09,514 --> 01:05:10,194 Speaker 19: I need to prove on. 1420 01:05:10,554 --> 01:05:12,834 Speaker 2: Sure you you had that big running game against Tennessee 1421 01:05:12,834 --> 01:05:14,354 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, ninety five yards. 1422 01:05:14,634 --> 01:05:17,274 Speaker 6: It seemed like teams are really taking make an effort 1423 01:05:17,354 --> 01:05:18,834 Speaker 6: to try to take that element out of the game. 1424 01:05:18,834 --> 01:05:21,073 Speaker 19: In the last few weeks, I have noticed too much, 1425 01:05:21,234 --> 01:05:22,914 Speaker 19: you know. I think I just kind of based on 1426 01:05:22,994 --> 01:05:25,194 Speaker 19: the game plan and you know, certain down of distances. 1427 01:05:25,314 --> 01:05:27,314 Speaker 19: You know, we're kind of you know, fighting against the 1428 01:05:27,394 --> 01:05:29,593 Speaker 19: chains and you know, backed up. It's a little hard 1429 01:05:29,674 --> 01:05:32,594 Speaker 19: to kind of defensive sitting back in some zone and 1430 01:05:32,754 --> 01:05:34,874 Speaker 19: little thing like that. So just try to take advantage 1431 01:05:34,874 --> 01:05:36,674 Speaker 19: when the opportunities do come, but you know, not really 1432 01:05:36,714 --> 01:05:38,674 Speaker 19: trying to hunt it up, just trying to take care 1433 01:05:38,674 --> 01:05:40,073 Speaker 19: of my body at the same time, you know, when 1434 01:05:40,114 --> 01:05:41,714 Speaker 19: they do when they are there, and I'm still not 1435 01:05:41,754 --> 01:05:44,314 Speaker 19: afraid of you go make a play. From your first 1436 01:05:44,394 --> 01:05:46,754 Speaker 19: two three starts to the last three weeks, how have 1437 01:05:46,794 --> 01:05:51,514 Speaker 19: you seen defenses adjust and play you more recently? I 1438 01:05:51,594 --> 01:05:53,314 Speaker 19: think just bringing different guys. I think kind of you know, 1439 01:05:53,394 --> 01:05:55,754 Speaker 19: bringing guys externally, and you're trying to do some different 1440 01:05:55,794 --> 01:05:57,994 Speaker 19: things to kind of you either make me hot or 1441 01:05:58,154 --> 01:06:00,434 Speaker 19: you know, make you throw hot or little things like that. 1442 01:06:00,634 --> 01:06:03,434 Speaker 19: So I think I'm just trying to you know, see 1443 01:06:03,434 --> 01:06:06,713 Speaker 19: different experiences and and learn from them and just go about, 1444 01:06:06,794 --> 01:06:08,394 Speaker 19: you know, the next week and hopefully not be a 1445 01:06:08,514 --> 01:06:10,754 Speaker 19: you know, repeat defender. You know, that's what ABP preaches 1446 01:06:10,794 --> 01:06:13,354 Speaker 19: and and coach mail. So that's my biggest thing. And 1447 01:06:13,434 --> 01:06:15,034 Speaker 19: then from that, defensively, just gotta be able to run 1448 01:06:15,034 --> 01:06:17,354 Speaker 19: the football. You know, like I said, you're behind the chains. 1449 01:06:17,394 --> 01:06:18,914 Speaker 4: It's hard. You know, we need to. 1450 01:06:18,954 --> 01:06:21,034 Speaker 19: Established the run. It helps us you know, down the 1451 01:06:21,114 --> 01:06:23,714 Speaker 19: road and play action and throw it on first down 1452 01:06:23,754 --> 01:06:25,994 Speaker 19: and mix it up. So little things like that this 1453 01:06:26,154 --> 01:06:26,593 Speaker 19: kind of year. 1454 01:06:26,594 --> 01:06:28,954 Speaker 4: If you hear about the rookie Wall sometimes, is that 1455 01:06:29,074 --> 01:06:32,234 Speaker 4: something that's talked about y'all or is that really not something. 1456 01:06:32,034 --> 01:06:32,713 Speaker 3: You can write about? 1457 01:06:33,074 --> 01:06:35,594 Speaker 19: Yeah, Rickie Wall for me, you know, really starting quarterback, 1458 01:06:35,634 --> 01:06:37,114 Speaker 19: you know all the really thing of rookie Wall is 1459 01:06:37,394 --> 01:06:39,514 Speaker 19: kind of hit me. I think, you know, by this time, 1460 01:06:39,554 --> 01:06:41,434 Speaker 19: everybody is and you're going through some type of you know, 1461 01:06:41,554 --> 01:06:44,514 Speaker 19: injury or tired or something like that. So you know 1462 01:06:44,714 --> 01:06:46,914 Speaker 19: what opportunity to you'll be the starting quarterback from the 1463 01:06:46,914 --> 01:06:48,514 Speaker 19: woman the Patriots. So I don't really know what you 1464 01:06:48,594 --> 01:06:48,954 Speaker 19: well from me. 1465 01:06:49,434 --> 01:06:52,914 Speaker 18: It comes again in the Rundy and Going Drake Draud said, 1466 01:06:52,954 --> 01:06:54,274 Speaker 18: I think it was about a week ago or so, 1467 01:06:54,474 --> 01:06:56,113 Speaker 18: you know, we're gonna start putting more on your plate 1468 01:06:56,154 --> 01:06:58,834 Speaker 18: when he was asking about designed quarterback runs so separate 1469 01:06:58,874 --> 01:07:00,514 Speaker 18: from the scrambles that you might do sort of on 1470 01:07:00,594 --> 01:07:03,154 Speaker 18: the script. How would you like that if that was 1471 01:07:03,194 --> 01:07:05,954 Speaker 18: starting to be incorporated into the Patriots offices. 1472 01:07:06,074 --> 01:07:06,634 Speaker 8: It's something that you. 1473 01:07:06,634 --> 01:07:08,514 Speaker 4: Would lob you for no doubt. 1474 01:07:08,514 --> 01:07:10,194 Speaker 19: I think the time and place for I think, you know, 1475 01:07:10,754 --> 01:07:12,834 Speaker 19: you know, third and short yardage or down in the 1476 01:07:12,874 --> 01:07:15,274 Speaker 19: red zone or go line or maybe QB drawl or 1477 01:07:15,274 --> 01:07:16,794 Speaker 19: something like that. I think there's definitely a place for that, 1478 01:07:16,914 --> 01:07:19,394 Speaker 19: and you can kind of keep defenders and defenses on, 1479 01:07:19,634 --> 01:07:21,154 Speaker 19: you know, on their toes with you know, mixing it 1480 01:07:21,274 --> 01:07:23,394 Speaker 19: up and just gotta do my part of getting down 1481 01:07:23,394 --> 01:07:25,114 Speaker 19: when it once. I do get the yardage, but do 1482 01:07:25,274 --> 01:07:26,594 Speaker 19: we think there's a time and place for it. But 1483 01:07:27,034 --> 01:07:28,834 Speaker 19: at the same time, I think, you know, getting the 1484 01:07:28,914 --> 01:07:31,794 Speaker 19: ball in Madre and ag and Hasey's hands better than mine. 1485 01:07:32,034 --> 01:07:32,994 Speaker 14: So take the. 1486 01:07:33,074 --> 01:07:36,154 Speaker 7: NFFL re instated Jabrill Peppers as his teammate. 1487 01:07:36,194 --> 01:07:37,114 Speaker 4: How do you feel about that? 1488 01:07:37,674 --> 01:07:39,154 Speaker 19: It's glad to have him back in the build him. 1489 01:07:39,154 --> 01:07:40,794 Speaker 19: You know, no Peppers, you know, you know a real 1490 01:07:40,834 --> 01:07:43,193 Speaker 19: situation is you'll wait for him to you know, speak 1491 01:07:43,234 --> 01:07:44,514 Speaker 19: on it. So I'm just glad to have him back. 1492 01:07:44,514 --> 01:07:46,354 Speaker 19: And you know he's a great player. 1493 01:07:47,114 --> 01:07:51,554 Speaker 4: Coach mac brownis let go this morning. Uh Helana, just 1494 01:07:51,674 --> 01:07:54,154 Speaker 4: thought on what he meant to you your time down there. 1495 01:07:55,354 --> 01:07:57,634 Speaker 19: You meant the world to me. He's probably probably the 1496 01:07:57,674 --> 01:08:00,153 Speaker 19: main reason I went to North Carolina Hall of Fame coach. 1497 01:08:00,994 --> 01:08:03,194 Speaker 19: He's done it and he's such a players coach. So 1498 01:08:03,394 --> 01:08:05,514 Speaker 19: I saw the news and hated for him, and you know, 1499 01:08:05,594 --> 01:08:07,114 Speaker 19: love coach and appreciated him what he did for me. 1500 01:08:07,674 --> 01:08:09,914 Speaker 19: But I know, you know he's he left it all 1501 01:08:09,954 --> 01:08:11,794 Speaker 19: out there and you know he's got no regrets. 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They're pretty easy to shoot. 1537 01:09:59,474 --> 01:09:59,994 Speaker 4: They're huge. 1538 01:10:00,074 --> 01:10:02,274 Speaker 3: Now maybe it's all feathers and you miss and you 1539 01:10:02,354 --> 01:10:03,994 Speaker 3: got to hit, you know, center of man. 1540 01:10:04,154 --> 01:10:05,754 Speaker 7: Some of them go on the offensive, though there is 1541 01:10:06,114 --> 01:10:08,274 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, they mark you, yeah, and they attack. 1542 01:10:08,314 --> 01:10:09,914 Speaker 4: I could see you being made of turkey's bitch. 1543 01:10:10,594 --> 01:10:12,594 Speaker 3: Oh and they like packet your Now, that would be 1544 01:10:12,634 --> 01:10:14,594 Speaker 3: a great story if you were you know. 1545 01:10:15,314 --> 01:10:18,194 Speaker 6: It would be an ironic ironic. 1546 01:10:17,994 --> 01:10:22,234 Speaker 3: Wedded by a turkey, Like yeah, actually you were forced 1547 01:10:22,274 --> 01:10:23,714 Speaker 3: to become the mate of a turkey. 1548 01:10:24,074 --> 01:10:25,994 Speaker 4: The revenant that thing we're on the other day, Eric 1549 01:10:26,034 --> 01:10:28,474 Speaker 4: would be penetrated by a turkey. 1550 01:10:29,314 --> 01:10:31,634 Speaker 2: That's another great moment from. 1551 01:10:33,594 --> 01:10:34,434 Speaker 3: I forgot that one. 1552 01:10:34,594 --> 01:10:37,354 Speaker 4: Do you guys catch the just how many times we 1553 01:10:37,474 --> 01:10:40,794 Speaker 4: come back from one of these breaks with Fred probabeating. 1554 01:10:40,634 --> 01:10:43,474 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it sounds like the opportunity, right, friend saw 1555 01:10:43,514 --> 01:10:46,634 Speaker 7: the opportunity, so Andy dropped that line. Freend was like, interesting, 1556 01:10:48,194 --> 01:10:49,154 Speaker 7: let's explore. 1557 01:10:48,834 --> 01:10:51,634 Speaker 3: This a little bit. It went from you just getting 1558 01:10:51,714 --> 01:10:57,634 Speaker 3: passed to being forced to life, Eric in a Turkey 1559 01:10:57,794 --> 01:11:03,674 Speaker 3: well something all right back here. TPS hotline is eight 1560 01:11:03,754 --> 01:11:07,354 Speaker 3: five to five past five hundred podcasts at patriots dot 1561 01:11:07,434 --> 01:11:10,354 Speaker 3: com is the email address, and we've got a lot 1562 01:11:10,394 --> 01:11:11,114 Speaker 3: of emails coming. 1563 01:11:11,594 --> 01:11:11,754 Speaker 7: Eric. 1564 01:11:11,994 --> 01:11:15,034 Speaker 4: Yeah, I started putting together the roster. 1565 01:11:15,234 --> 01:11:16,714 Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say started the book 1566 01:11:16,754 --> 01:11:17,274 Speaker 3: on Africa. 1567 01:11:18,674 --> 01:11:20,954 Speaker 4: I put together the roster that Fred has tasked me with. 1568 01:11:22,874 --> 01:11:24,554 Speaker 4: So I'm going to ask for some help here. I'm 1569 01:11:24,554 --> 01:11:25,994 Speaker 4: going to put a call out for help. We have 1570 01:11:26,034 --> 01:11:27,474 Speaker 4: a lot of listeners that have been with us for 1571 01:11:27,514 --> 01:11:30,594 Speaker 4: a long time, and they have better memories than me. 1572 01:11:31,874 --> 01:11:36,434 Speaker 4: So yes, So if you have like an obscure obviously 1573 01:11:36,674 --> 01:11:39,114 Speaker 4: you know Andy, Eric, you know he who shall not 1574 01:11:39,234 --> 01:11:40,994 Speaker 4: be named Mike PARENTI. 1575 01:11:41,074 --> 01:11:42,874 Speaker 3: I have a lot of the lists that you're creating. 1576 01:11:42,954 --> 01:11:45,354 Speaker 4: The roster, the all time roster of the people that 1577 01:11:45,474 --> 01:11:48,234 Speaker 4: have been on the show, you know, on a fairly 1578 01:11:48,314 --> 01:11:51,034 Speaker 4: regular basis, not just like a guest that came in. 1579 01:11:51,594 --> 01:11:52,754 Speaker 3: But how long? 1580 01:11:53,034 --> 01:11:55,474 Speaker 4: Yeah, like I'm not counting how how we long? Types 1581 01:11:56,594 --> 01:11:59,394 Speaker 4: Adam Schefter when he was on his memory phone the 1582 01:11:59,394 --> 01:12:00,634 Speaker 4: whole time you're talking to us. 1583 01:12:00,914 --> 01:12:01,794 Speaker 3: Two phones going. 1584 01:12:02,474 --> 01:12:04,794 Speaker 4: So if you have, you know, maybe you think of 1585 01:12:04,874 --> 01:12:07,474 Speaker 4: a guy that might be a little obscure or off 1586 01:12:07,514 --> 01:12:12,674 Speaker 4: the beaten path, shoot an email to podcasts right plural? Yeah, 1587 01:12:12,754 --> 01:12:18,754 Speaker 4: what else is the rest of that? Because I I 1588 01:12:19,634 --> 01:12:25,154 Speaker 4: put together sort of a preliminary list in Fred did 1589 01:12:26,194 --> 01:12:27,754 Speaker 4: I thought for sure you would have like a number 1590 01:12:27,794 --> 01:12:29,754 Speaker 4: of guys. Oh you forgot this, this, this, and yeah, 1591 01:12:30,074 --> 01:12:30,634 Speaker 4: I think you would. 1592 01:12:30,674 --> 01:12:31,594 Speaker 3: You got it pretty well. 1593 01:12:31,834 --> 01:12:33,914 Speaker 4: So I'm sure I missed somebody. 1594 01:12:33,994 --> 01:12:34,754 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear what. 1595 01:12:35,154 --> 01:12:37,674 Speaker 4: Randolph was here, Randolph Charlatan. 1596 01:12:37,834 --> 01:12:39,954 Speaker 3: I don't think he was on the show though, Like 1597 01:12:40,074 --> 01:12:42,234 Speaker 3: so I was coming up with those names, but I'm like, 1598 01:12:42,314 --> 01:12:42,994 Speaker 3: I don't think they were. 1599 01:12:43,074 --> 01:12:45,114 Speaker 4: Randolph was the King. We used to do these little 1600 01:12:45,514 --> 01:12:47,274 Speaker 4: in the preview. We'd have like a little behind the 1601 01:12:47,394 --> 01:12:50,874 Speaker 4: enemy lines kind of like spotlights offense defense. And they 1602 01:12:50,914 --> 01:12:53,074 Speaker 4: were small, you know, just like little brief things. And 1603 01:12:53,474 --> 01:12:55,354 Speaker 4: he was an intern, so we used to have him 1604 01:12:55,394 --> 01:12:58,194 Speaker 4: do that. Brian would be like, hey, Randolph, you have 1605 01:12:58,314 --> 01:13:02,314 Speaker 4: those spotlights yet? Yeah, I just have to finish writing them. 1606 01:13:03,714 --> 01:13:06,113 Speaker 3: But it would always be I just have to I'm like, Randolph, 1607 01:13:07,874 --> 01:13:08,714 Speaker 3: I just have to it. 1608 01:13:08,754 --> 01:13:12,034 Speaker 4: Was always yes, and then in five minute reason why 1609 01:13:12,074 --> 01:13:14,314 Speaker 4: I wasn't done yet. I knew him a little bit 1610 01:13:14,354 --> 01:13:15,114 Speaker 4: in the blogosphere. 1611 01:13:15,194 --> 01:13:16,834 Speaker 7: I knew really, yeah, a little bit. I knew who 1612 01:13:16,874 --> 01:13:18,674 Speaker 7: he was like a kid. Yeah, yeah, a little bit. 1613 01:13:18,714 --> 01:13:20,874 Speaker 4: I mean never met you know, Brian always called him. 1614 01:13:20,874 --> 01:13:25,194 Speaker 4: Are those spotlights yet? Yeah? I just have to finish 1615 01:13:25,354 --> 01:13:25,634 Speaker 4: right now. 1616 01:13:27,434 --> 01:13:28,594 Speaker 7: They're together in my mind. 1617 01:13:28,954 --> 01:13:30,234 Speaker 9: That's what I sell all the time. It's written in 1618 01:13:30,314 --> 01:13:33,194 Speaker 9: my head, just not in the physical world yet. 1619 01:13:34,754 --> 01:13:35,234 Speaker 3: Oh boy. 1620 01:13:35,354 --> 01:13:37,034 Speaker 4: So if you can think of someone that you think 1621 01:13:37,194 --> 01:13:39,874 Speaker 4: might have slipped through the cracks, shoot an email. Fred 1622 01:13:39,874 --> 01:13:41,914 Speaker 4: will read them and let me know if I miss somebody. 1623 01:13:41,994 --> 01:13:45,434 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get back to the tpx heutline. Mike's in 1624 01:13:45,474 --> 01:13:46,794 Speaker 3: Puerto Rico. What's up? Mike? 1625 01:13:48,634 --> 01:13:50,234 Speaker 8: Hey doing well? How there are I doing? 1626 01:13:50,434 --> 01:13:51,394 Speaker 4: Hey? Mike's up, Mike? 1627 01:13:53,074 --> 01:13:53,394 Speaker 8: Happy? 1628 01:13:53,434 --> 01:13:57,994 Speaker 13: Thanksgiving you too? So Fred, do you mind if I 1629 01:13:58,074 --> 01:13:59,194 Speaker 13: put you on the spot for a minute. 1630 01:13:59,634 --> 01:14:02,394 Speaker 4: Sure, Okay. 1631 01:14:02,994 --> 01:14:06,674 Speaker 13: So I was thinking about the situation that we are 1632 01:14:06,834 --> 01:14:11,674 Speaker 13: right now, where you had Bobcraft that made an internal 1633 01:14:11,754 --> 01:14:18,074 Speaker 13: selection and after having basically very little bedding process for 1634 01:14:18,274 --> 01:14:24,234 Speaker 13: outside candidates and basically succeeding or replacing one of the 1635 01:14:24,394 --> 01:14:27,394 Speaker 13: best coaches one of the best, if not the best 1636 01:14:27,434 --> 01:14:32,154 Speaker 13: coach of all time. Right, So I see parallels with 1637 01:14:32,794 --> 01:14:36,754 Speaker 13: something that has happening with you. Because we used to 1638 01:14:36,914 --> 01:14:41,674 Speaker 13: have the uh Eric as one of the best podcasts. 1639 01:14:41,794 --> 01:14:45,554 Speaker 13: I'm kidding, I'm kidding. We used to have Hardy as 1640 01:14:45,594 --> 01:14:49,114 Speaker 13: one of the best hosts for the post game show 1641 01:14:49,874 --> 01:14:53,594 Speaker 13: and he he left, And you seem to have made 1642 01:14:53,674 --> 01:14:58,514 Speaker 13: an internal selection without at least from our end, seemed 1643 01:14:58,594 --> 01:15:02,034 Speaker 13: much more like of a vetting process because you said 1644 01:15:02,114 --> 01:15:05,234 Speaker 13: that it was pretty early in the process that that 1645 01:15:05,394 --> 01:15:06,354 Speaker 13: you made your decision. 1646 01:15:06,994 --> 01:15:08,554 Speaker 8: So based on that. 1647 01:15:09,634 --> 01:15:12,634 Speaker 3: So, Mike, it's a it's a good analogy. I have 1648 01:15:12,754 --> 01:15:13,474 Speaker 3: to give you credit. 1649 01:15:14,354 --> 01:15:14,514 Speaker 7: You know. 1650 01:15:14,674 --> 01:15:18,034 Speaker 3: It came about I was on a retreat in Attleborough 1651 01:15:18,314 --> 01:15:21,314 Speaker 3: with Matt Smith and he just showed to me that 1652 01:15:21,514 --> 01:15:25,834 Speaker 3: he was really a leader of shows. But know, we'll see, 1653 01:15:25,994 --> 01:15:28,594 Speaker 3: we'll see. You know, it's a learning curve and uh, 1654 01:15:29,154 --> 01:15:31,874 Speaker 3: you know, we didn't expect him to be able to, uh, 1655 01:15:32,554 --> 01:15:34,674 Speaker 3: you know, come right into the shoes with one of 1656 01:15:34,714 --> 01:15:37,434 Speaker 3: the best pre game post game hosts that we've. 1657 01:15:37,314 --> 01:15:39,314 Speaker 4: Ever had bumps. 1658 01:15:39,434 --> 01:15:42,754 Speaker 3: But he's learning and uh, you know, we'll see what happens. 1659 01:15:47,074 --> 01:15:47,874 Speaker 3: But that's a good one. 1660 01:15:47,954 --> 01:15:48,114 Speaker 9: Mike. 1661 01:15:48,314 --> 01:15:48,874 Speaker 4: I looked at him. 1662 01:15:51,034 --> 01:15:51,954 Speaker 3: It's a good analysis. 1663 01:15:51,954 --> 01:15:54,434 Speaker 4: It's good yet is uh. 1664 01:15:54,594 --> 01:15:56,914 Speaker 7: He's gotten his glasses fog down, which is a good 1665 01:15:56,954 --> 01:15:58,034 Speaker 7: you know, progress we're seeing it. 1666 01:15:58,074 --> 01:16:01,874 Speaker 4: Also, it's been a lot better. He's gotten a lot better. 1667 01:16:02,634 --> 01:16:06,154 Speaker 3: I still people still complain he doesn't do the good, 1668 01:16:06,234 --> 01:16:07,434 Speaker 3: the bad, and the injured, right. 1669 01:16:08,474 --> 01:16:10,634 Speaker 4: I think he didn't do it right this week. I 1670 01:16:10,714 --> 01:16:12,354 Speaker 4: think he did. I think we waited too long to 1671 01:16:12,394 --> 01:16:12,874 Speaker 4: get into. 1672 01:16:13,154 --> 01:16:14,554 Speaker 7: There was no good list, so he was able. 1673 01:16:14,714 --> 01:16:17,514 Speaker 4: That was a problem. That was a problem, the good 1674 01:16:17,554 --> 01:16:21,474 Speaker 4: list consistent of individual plays, good tackle. 1675 01:16:22,234 --> 01:16:26,714 Speaker 3: Kevin's in San Francisco. What's up, Kevin? Hey, guys, how 1676 01:16:26,714 --> 01:16:30,714 Speaker 3: we're doing good? Are you escaping from Alcatraz? 1677 01:16:32,154 --> 01:16:32,314 Speaker 19: Yeah? 1678 01:16:32,394 --> 01:16:32,834 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 1679 01:16:32,874 --> 01:16:34,914 Speaker 11: I'm walking down Chesterna Street right now. It's old busy. 1680 01:16:35,834 --> 01:16:39,954 Speaker 11: I was listening to the podcast yesterday and the conversation 1681 01:16:40,114 --> 01:16:43,834 Speaker 11: came up about you know, the lad McCaughey and you know, 1682 01:16:44,874 --> 01:16:47,474 Speaker 11: what's the name Pop Douglas not sitting in zones, and 1683 01:16:47,594 --> 01:16:50,594 Speaker 11: then Evan explained that it was based on the type 1684 01:16:50,634 --> 01:16:53,114 Speaker 11: of offense that they run. So my question is this, 1685 01:16:54,194 --> 01:16:57,794 Speaker 11: do you think who else, what other teams are successful 1686 01:16:58,114 --> 01:17:01,074 Speaker 11: with this offense that we're running today. And the second 1687 01:17:01,154 --> 01:17:03,274 Speaker 11: question is do you think it's the right offense for 1688 01:17:03,394 --> 01:17:04,474 Speaker 11: Drake and a moving forward. 1689 01:17:05,314 --> 01:17:06,074 Speaker 8: We'll take it off there. 1690 01:17:06,114 --> 01:17:08,034 Speaker 3: Thank you. That's a good question and I wish Evan 1691 01:17:08,114 --> 01:17:08,794 Speaker 3: was here to answer it. 1692 01:17:08,914 --> 01:17:10,834 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is that I mean in all series is 1693 01:17:10,914 --> 01:17:13,194 Speaker 4: that is more of an Evan question than me. 1694 01:17:13,514 --> 01:17:17,754 Speaker 3: Now. Evan says that the principles of the Van Pelt 1695 01:17:18,114 --> 01:17:20,794 Speaker 3: offense is being used in a lot of offenses around 1696 01:17:20,834 --> 01:17:21,554 Speaker 3: the league right now. 1697 01:17:21,714 --> 01:17:24,514 Speaker 4: Well, you know the West Coast office, Well it's it's 1698 01:17:24,514 --> 01:17:26,154 Speaker 4: got its base. Antiliah regular with them. 1699 01:17:27,354 --> 01:17:30,113 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's got its bases in the West Coast offense, 1700 01:17:30,154 --> 01:17:33,834 Speaker 3: which a lot of these tighte pants guys either came 1701 01:17:33,914 --> 01:17:36,634 Speaker 3: from or mcarre mentor came from. 1702 01:17:37,034 --> 01:17:40,314 Speaker 4: McVeigh and Shannahan run a version of this, but it's different, 1703 01:17:40,874 --> 01:17:43,634 Speaker 4: but I run a more sophisticated version. But I heard 1704 01:17:43,674 --> 01:17:44,834 Speaker 4: sort of old school. 1705 01:17:44,714 --> 01:17:47,794 Speaker 3: But I heard like when it comes to the Shanahan offense, 1706 01:17:48,354 --> 01:17:52,874 Speaker 3: the main principle of it is it's quarterback friendly. 1707 01:17:52,994 --> 01:17:54,994 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would say, you know, this isn't a 1708 01:17:55,034 --> 01:17:56,994 Speaker 4: good year for it, but Dallas had a really good 1709 01:17:57,034 --> 01:18:00,034 Speaker 4: offense last year and Mike McCarthy kind of runs this offense, 1710 01:18:00,714 --> 01:18:04,154 Speaker 4: it's very similar. Again, I'm not an expert. You can 1711 01:18:04,194 --> 01:18:06,394 Speaker 4: probably give me like seventeen different ways why what I 1712 01:18:06,474 --> 01:18:09,474 Speaker 4: just said is wrong. But Mike McCarthy is an old 1713 01:18:09,514 --> 01:18:12,794 Speaker 4: school West Coast offense coach, you know. 1714 01:18:13,834 --> 01:18:15,234 Speaker 7: I just think the hard thing is that they don't 1715 01:18:15,234 --> 01:18:17,834 Speaker 7: really have the personnel to run what they they're trying 1716 01:18:17,874 --> 01:18:19,954 Speaker 7: to tell us that they want, so it's hard to 1717 01:18:20,034 --> 01:18:22,154 Speaker 7: see how it fits in. But I would just hope 1718 01:18:22,154 --> 01:18:25,714 Speaker 7: that they evolve, you know, into the know a little 1719 01:18:25,714 --> 01:18:27,794 Speaker 7: bit over these last five games. But if everything stays 1720 01:18:27,834 --> 01:18:29,354 Speaker 7: in place in the next year, you know, continue to 1721 01:18:29,394 --> 01:18:31,074 Speaker 7: evolve with Drake. I don't need to see Drake running 1722 01:18:31,074 --> 01:18:33,234 Speaker 7: in a bunch like I think this offense could be fine. 1723 01:18:33,274 --> 01:18:34,874 Speaker 7: But I think they just need the right personality. 1724 01:18:34,914 --> 01:18:37,194 Speaker 4: I don't need designed runs. I mean, if you want 1725 01:18:37,234 --> 01:18:39,314 Speaker 4: to have it in the in the bag, as everyon 1726 01:18:39,434 --> 01:18:43,234 Speaker 4: likes to say, sure, and certainly short yardage, red zone, 1727 01:18:43,354 --> 01:18:45,034 Speaker 4: I'm all for it, but I don't want to know. 1728 01:18:45,194 --> 01:18:47,314 Speaker 4: I don't need him running ten twelve times a game 1729 01:18:47,354 --> 01:18:47,834 Speaker 4: by design. 1730 01:18:47,874 --> 01:18:49,394 Speaker 7: He's got a rocket arm, let him run, let him 1731 01:18:49,434 --> 01:18:49,594 Speaker 7: throw it. 1732 01:18:51,194 --> 01:18:54,434 Speaker 3: Rose is writing in from Brazil. She says, listening to 1733 01:18:54,474 --> 01:18:56,634 Speaker 3: you guys talk about food. It became clear to me 1734 01:18:57,034 --> 01:19:00,314 Speaker 3: why every time we receive Americans in Brazil everyone eats 1735 01:19:00,314 --> 01:19:03,274 Speaker 3: as if they've been starving for a lifetime. Anyway, you 1736 01:19:03,314 --> 01:19:06,754 Speaker 3: will always be welcome here and Patriots Nation is huge here. 1737 01:19:07,834 --> 01:19:10,554 Speaker 7: I heard that that steakhouse is huge in Brazil, that 1738 01:19:10,674 --> 01:19:12,914 Speaker 7: it's like one of the most popular steakhouses is out 1739 01:19:12,954 --> 01:19:14,594 Speaker 7: That Steakhouse in Brazil. 1740 01:19:14,674 --> 01:19:19,274 Speaker 9: In Brazil, Brazilian steakhouses are incredible, right, It's like. 1741 01:19:19,314 --> 01:19:21,714 Speaker 4: The place to sit here. There's a lot of Brazilians, right. 1742 01:19:21,794 --> 01:19:25,434 Speaker 3: I read that that's like the place to be is 1743 01:19:25,714 --> 01:19:28,834 Speaker 3: they have They have these Brazilian steakhouses here where they 1744 01:19:28,954 --> 01:19:30,114 Speaker 3: just keep bringing you meet. 1745 01:19:33,514 --> 01:19:34,154 Speaker 9: Bury me there. 1746 01:19:36,914 --> 01:19:39,554 Speaker 4: Huh, she learns me something every show. 1747 01:19:39,674 --> 01:19:43,714 Speaker 9: Have you ever been to Fogu? They're everywhere? No, you'd 1748 01:19:43,754 --> 01:19:43,994 Speaker 9: love it. 1749 01:19:44,674 --> 01:19:48,594 Speaker 4: Well, I know I have where like where's. 1750 01:19:48,354 --> 01:19:52,074 Speaker 9: Like there's one in the Prudential Center. Definitely haven't been there, 1751 01:19:52,834 --> 01:19:56,234 Speaker 9: but they're scattered across the country bougie places. 1752 01:19:56,554 --> 01:19:58,114 Speaker 7: I just I had to confirm my take it was 1753 01:19:58,194 --> 01:20:01,314 Speaker 7: it's The Washington Post wrote last June, why out Back 1754 01:20:01,354 --> 01:20:03,354 Speaker 7: Steakhouse is the most popular restaurant in Brazil. 1755 01:20:03,474 --> 01:20:04,034 Speaker 9: That's crazy. 1756 01:20:04,634 --> 01:20:05,594 Speaker 4: A steakhouse. 1757 01:20:05,714 --> 01:20:08,434 Speaker 3: Is it the same? Like do they do you think 1758 01:20:08,434 --> 01:20:10,074 Speaker 3: they there? 1759 01:20:10,154 --> 01:20:12,114 Speaker 9: Because I feel like you can just go to probably 1760 01:20:12,154 --> 01:20:14,634 Speaker 9: any restaurant in Brazil and get a great steak. 1761 01:20:14,874 --> 01:20:17,394 Speaker 7: So it's like, do they need to have that an 1762 01:20:17,394 --> 01:20:19,274 Speaker 7: awesome blossom or a blue man onion? 1763 01:20:19,314 --> 01:20:19,834 Speaker 4: Which one is that? 1764 01:20:20,114 --> 01:20:21,234 Speaker 9: I think? 1765 01:20:22,474 --> 01:20:25,074 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty good, it's not it's not terrible. 1766 01:20:25,354 --> 01:20:25,914 Speaker 3: I've never been to. 1767 01:20:25,914 --> 01:20:26,754 Speaker 7: Another back steakhouse. 1768 01:20:27,234 --> 01:20:29,474 Speaker 3: They're okay. But I'll tell you people are probably gonna 1769 01:20:29,514 --> 01:20:31,994 Speaker 3: laugh at me because I do love steak. But Longhorn 1770 01:20:32,114 --> 01:20:32,754 Speaker 3: is a good value. 1771 01:20:32,834 --> 01:20:34,034 Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with Longhorn. 1772 01:20:34,114 --> 01:20:35,234 Speaker 3: It's it's a good value. 1773 01:20:38,554 --> 01:20:39,634 Speaker 6: It's gonna be well, that's not. 1774 01:20:42,434 --> 01:20:44,594 Speaker 4: You can get a bad steak and I love steak. 1775 01:20:45,074 --> 01:20:46,954 Speaker 9: I've yet to come across one. But I believe you. 1776 01:20:47,434 --> 01:20:53,314 Speaker 4: But those I agree with you on Longhorn underrated underrated. 1777 01:20:53,394 --> 01:20:55,914 Speaker 4: Out back is okay, but it's more like what you're 1778 01:20:55,914 --> 01:20:59,594 Speaker 4: talking about, shouse not bad. 1779 01:20:59,834 --> 01:21:03,474 Speaker 3: Red Lobster had no business calling itself a food place. 1780 01:21:03,674 --> 01:21:05,354 Speaker 4: That place was that's different. 1781 01:21:07,754 --> 01:21:09,314 Speaker 7: Post outbacks. 1782 01:21:09,594 --> 01:21:12,794 Speaker 4: Sorry, Red Lobster. I'll have the shrimp and they're like, 1783 01:21:12,914 --> 01:21:14,994 Speaker 4: you know this big It's like it's awful. 1784 01:21:15,114 --> 01:21:17,474 Speaker 9: So you can go to like, don't get seafood out. 1785 01:21:17,754 --> 01:21:19,434 Speaker 4: She had all these places. Now you have like the 1786 01:21:19,514 --> 01:21:22,554 Speaker 4: Fried Chicken, you know, like Chick fil a. Everybody's got 1787 01:21:22,714 --> 01:21:27,354 Speaker 4: the Fried pop Eyes. Like it's really flip the bird huge. 1788 01:21:27,434 --> 01:21:28,074 Speaker 4: It's like big. 1789 01:21:28,194 --> 01:21:28,354 Speaker 3: Right. 1790 01:21:28,754 --> 01:21:31,314 Speaker 4: You get all these different little steakhouses from high end 1791 01:21:31,434 --> 01:21:35,194 Speaker 4: to you know, more affordable, but all the turkey houses. 1792 01:21:35,394 --> 01:21:41,594 Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, Paul. No one likes it, right, you 1793 01:21:41,714 --> 01:21:45,634 Speaker 3: eat it one day a year. Tom and England, Happy 1794 01:21:45,674 --> 01:21:47,794 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving to all of you from across the pond. 1795 01:21:48,674 --> 01:21:48,794 Speaker 14: Uh. 1796 01:21:48,874 --> 01:21:51,434 Speaker 3: We don't have the Poddle game here, but we do 1797 01:21:51,634 --> 01:21:54,234 Speaker 3: have the yellow car game where you can punch your friend. 1798 01:21:54,274 --> 01:21:56,674 Speaker 3: If you see a yellow car, punch buggy. We say 1799 01:21:56,754 --> 01:21:58,714 Speaker 3: yellow car instead of pdiddle. 1800 01:21:58,394 --> 01:22:04,714 Speaker 7: Yea punch buggies to and only. 1801 01:22:02,594 --> 01:22:09,074 Speaker 3: Ours is yeah, not like in the middle driving through 1802 01:22:09,114 --> 01:22:11,954 Speaker 3: rough if you see the Volkswagen bug you say, like, 1803 01:22:12,354 --> 01:22:16,994 Speaker 3: you know, punch buggy blue right, yeah, yeah yeah. Here's 1804 01:22:17,034 --> 01:22:21,434 Speaker 3: an easy trivia question for Paul. The Patriots have played 1805 01:22:21,474 --> 01:22:24,674 Speaker 3: in five Thanksgiving games. Can you name the year and 1806 01:22:24,754 --> 01:22:26,394 Speaker 3: score it each of those games. 1807 01:22:28,674 --> 01:22:32,674 Speaker 4: I'm not going to get the year, and I don't 1808 01:22:32,674 --> 01:22:35,194 Speaker 4: know if I can get five. I remember they lost, 1809 01:22:36,114 --> 01:22:39,474 Speaker 4: they lost twenty to seventeen in Dallas. I want to say, 1810 01:22:39,554 --> 01:22:40,674 Speaker 4: like seventy. 1811 01:22:40,834 --> 01:22:44,394 Speaker 3: Eight, eighty four, you got the score eighty four. 1812 01:22:45,914 --> 01:22:49,834 Speaker 4: They lost thirty four to nine in Detroit. In two thousand, yes, 1813 01:22:50,434 --> 01:22:58,394 Speaker 4: exactly right. Two thousand and two they beat Detroit. Teddy 1814 01:22:58,434 --> 01:23:02,434 Speaker 4: Brewski picked six, kind of an odds became a linebacker 1815 01:23:02,514 --> 01:23:06,514 Speaker 4: that day. I'll get back to that, Okay, So then 1816 01:23:06,914 --> 01:23:09,434 Speaker 4: maybe like was it, I'm not going to get the scores. 1817 01:23:09,474 --> 01:23:13,194 Speaker 4: They beat Detroit again like eight oh nine, ish ten ten, 1818 01:23:14,554 --> 01:23:15,794 Speaker 4: Devin mccordy pick. 1819 01:23:16,554 --> 01:23:19,714 Speaker 7: Butt fumble, butt fumble, they killed. 1820 01:23:20,554 --> 01:23:23,354 Speaker 4: The butt fumble was a Thanksgiving game. That's when I 1821 01:23:23,434 --> 01:23:24,874 Speaker 4: needed help from Mike. I would not have. 1822 01:23:24,914 --> 01:23:27,234 Speaker 3: Gotten and then what we just did one right, so 1823 01:23:27,474 --> 01:23:33,074 Speaker 3: twenty ten and then Minnesota forty five, twenty four, forty. 1824 01:23:32,874 --> 01:23:34,594 Speaker 4: Five twenty four, I wouldn't have gotten the score. 1825 01:23:34,634 --> 01:23:37,314 Speaker 3: And then twenty twelve. I guess that was the butt 1826 01:23:37,354 --> 01:23:40,274 Speaker 3: Fromboo game. But yeah, that was like forty nine nineteen. 1827 01:23:41,674 --> 01:23:44,874 Speaker 4: So then then Minnesota, Well he only has five six, 1828 01:23:46,074 --> 01:23:51,074 Speaker 4: six because if there's three Detroit one, Dallas butt fumble jets, 1829 01:23:51,154 --> 01:23:54,194 Speaker 4: this six because they played it was probably Mac Jones's 1830 01:23:54,234 --> 01:23:54,874 Speaker 4: last good game. 1831 01:23:54,994 --> 01:23:57,714 Speaker 7: You better get lost show you're gonna question Pp, But. 1832 01:23:57,874 --> 01:23:58,314 Speaker 4: Am I right? 1833 01:23:58,514 --> 01:23:58,714 Speaker 14: That was? 1834 01:23:58,874 --> 01:23:59,714 Speaker 4: That was Thanksgiving? 1835 01:23:59,914 --> 01:24:00,194 Speaker 3: Evans? 1836 01:24:00,394 --> 01:24:02,954 Speaker 4: You remember at thanks at Minnesota a couple of years ago. 1837 01:24:02,994 --> 01:24:04,114 Speaker 4: That was a Thanksgiving night game. 1838 01:24:04,354 --> 01:24:05,994 Speaker 6: Sure was freend and I were there. 1839 01:24:06,674 --> 01:24:08,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, they. 1840 01:24:10,354 --> 01:24:12,234 Speaker 4: I let you down, though I couldn't get those scores. 1841 01:24:12,594 --> 01:24:16,074 Speaker 6: I do remember when they overturned Hunter Henry's touchdown. That 1842 01:24:16,354 --> 01:24:18,234 Speaker 6: was absolutely a touchdown. Both him and I looked at 1843 01:24:18,274 --> 01:24:20,754 Speaker 6: each other and we're not happy about that. I remember that. 1844 01:24:21,554 --> 01:24:22,954 Speaker 3: All Right, Evans, here. 1845 01:24:25,394 --> 01:24:32,073 Speaker 13: Has returned. Practice has returned, has returned. 1846 01:24:36,754 --> 01:24:39,514 Speaker 3: All right, Evan, Before we get into it, did you 1847 01:24:39,594 --> 01:24:42,594 Speaker 3: hear Alex van Pelt today disagree with you about what 1848 01:24:43,114 --> 01:24:47,434 Speaker 3: about Pop Douglas about the route running. 1849 01:24:47,314 --> 01:24:53,234 Speaker 6: The route running? Yeah, we've gotten three different answers about this. 1850 01:24:53,674 --> 01:24:56,194 Speaker 6: Drake told us that he just missed the throw. Pop 1851 01:24:56,274 --> 01:24:58,314 Speaker 6: told us that he was just running his route, and 1852 01:24:58,394 --> 01:25:01,434 Speaker 6: now Van Pelt's telling us that Pop ran was running 1853 01:25:01,474 --> 01:25:03,394 Speaker 6: his route, but ran the route at the wrong depth 1854 01:25:03,994 --> 01:25:07,674 Speaker 6: and that's what led to the issue. So I'm gonna 1855 01:25:07,994 --> 01:25:10,074 Speaker 6: just chalk this one up to you know what, they 1856 01:25:10,194 --> 01:25:13,274 Speaker 6: just didn't hit this. Let it go, Yes, let it go, 1857 01:25:13,914 --> 01:25:16,234 Speaker 6: exactly exactly. 1858 01:25:17,554 --> 01:25:19,994 Speaker 4: What I was gonna let you finish, and then I 1859 01:25:20,074 --> 01:25:22,074 Speaker 4: was going to tell him that what you were doing 1860 01:25:22,714 --> 01:25:27,874 Speaker 4: with that smace, he was trying to that you up, yes, yes. 1861 01:25:28,314 --> 01:25:28,834 Speaker 6: I'm over it. 1862 01:25:28,994 --> 01:25:31,074 Speaker 4: I presented that it has nothing to do with you. 1863 01:25:31,674 --> 01:25:34,754 Speaker 4: It was different than what players had told you. 1864 01:25:35,314 --> 01:25:35,514 Speaker 19: Yeah. 1865 01:25:35,594 --> 01:25:37,594 Speaker 4: I didn't even say the specific player that told you, 1866 01:25:37,674 --> 01:25:38,354 Speaker 4: but it was Douglas. 1867 01:25:39,434 --> 01:25:44,674 Speaker 6: We've got look, it's uh today again. Today somebody asked 1868 01:25:44,754 --> 01:25:48,674 Speaker 6: Kendrick Bourne about adjusting routes to blitzes and things like that, 1869 01:25:49,874 --> 01:25:52,074 Speaker 6: and he kind of gave a wishy washy answer. So 1870 01:25:53,234 --> 01:25:54,994 Speaker 6: maybe they're trying to play it close to the vest 1871 01:25:55,194 --> 01:25:57,354 Speaker 6: exactly how they deal with that kind of stuff. I'll 1872 01:25:57,354 --> 01:26:00,554 Speaker 6: allow for that. It does concern me that they might 1873 01:26:00,634 --> 01:26:03,594 Speaker 6: not know how they deal with it, and that piece 1874 01:26:03,674 --> 01:26:04,554 Speaker 6: of it is concerning. 1875 01:26:04,874 --> 01:26:08,954 Speaker 3: So and one more question. One of our callers asked 1876 01:26:08,994 --> 01:26:12,314 Speaker 3: the question, do you think this is the right offense 1877 01:26:12,554 --> 01:26:14,274 Speaker 3: for Drake May going forward? 1878 01:26:14,394 --> 01:26:16,434 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're actually just talking about that a little bit 1879 01:26:16,674 --> 01:26:21,474 Speaker 6: at practice as we were trying to just move on 1880 01:26:21,754 --> 01:26:24,714 Speaker 6: from from Pop Douglas Slant Gate right and and move 1881 01:26:24,794 --> 01:26:28,474 Speaker 6: on to the other things. And I think for right now, 1882 01:26:29,354 --> 01:26:31,314 Speaker 6: I can see the benefits of Drake being in a 1883 01:26:31,434 --> 01:26:35,634 Speaker 6: timing based offense like this, because it has helped improve 1884 01:26:35,754 --> 01:26:38,314 Speaker 6: his footwork, whereas if he was in a more free 1885 01:26:38,394 --> 01:26:40,394 Speaker 6: form offense that I don't know if he would have 1886 01:26:40,394 --> 01:26:43,474 Speaker 6: gotten that structure and that regiment to get his footwork better. 1887 01:26:44,234 --> 01:26:46,754 Speaker 6: But as time progresses, you know the fact that we're 1888 01:26:46,794 --> 01:26:50,634 Speaker 6: talking about Douglas didn't run the route at the right 1889 01:26:51,074 --> 01:26:54,434 Speaker 6: depth and then tied to Drake's drop, it threw off 1890 01:26:54,514 --> 01:26:56,634 Speaker 6: the whole like all that kind of stuff. I'm not 1891 01:26:56,754 --> 01:27:00,914 Speaker 6: sure that he's built for that ideally, Like I do 1892 01:27:01,034 --> 01:27:03,594 Speaker 6: think there needs to be a little bit more ability 1893 01:27:03,674 --> 01:27:05,794 Speaker 6: to color outside the lines and just kind of play 1894 01:27:05,834 --> 01:27:08,874 Speaker 6: football then have it get bogged down in all this minutia. 1895 01:27:09,354 --> 01:27:11,194 Speaker 6: But I do think it has been helpful for him 1896 01:27:11,234 --> 01:27:13,634 Speaker 6: to get his footwork in order compared to what it 1897 01:27:13,754 --> 01:27:14,634 Speaker 6: was in North Carolina. 1898 01:27:14,914 --> 01:27:18,234 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so now let's move on to practice. 1899 01:27:18,274 --> 01:27:18,834 Speaker 4: What do you got? 1900 01:27:19,074 --> 01:27:20,914 Speaker 6: Perfect attendance again on Wednesday? 1901 01:27:20,994 --> 01:27:22,274 Speaker 3: So they're outdoors today. 1902 01:27:22,114 --> 01:27:28,154 Speaker 6: Outdoors today, back outside pads, no shells, shells today and 1903 01:27:28,514 --> 01:27:33,554 Speaker 6: uh practice with everybody was there, including Cold Strange, Gabriel Peppers, 1904 01:27:34,754 --> 01:27:38,234 Speaker 6: all the particulars. So yeah, it was uneventful. I have 1905 01:27:38,314 --> 01:27:43,794 Speaker 6: to admit other than us arguing about sans arguing. I 1906 01:27:43,834 --> 01:27:46,954 Speaker 6: wouldn't say arguing. It was more just like everybody's kind 1907 01:27:46,954 --> 01:27:48,914 Speaker 6: of confused, you know, like we're getting all these different 1908 01:27:48,914 --> 01:27:51,274 Speaker 6: answers from different people, so we're just trying to make 1909 01:27:51,354 --> 01:27:52,674 Speaker 6: straight of what's going on. 1910 01:27:53,074 --> 01:27:57,874 Speaker 3: Okay, So whether for the game coming up is going 1911 01:27:57,954 --> 01:27:59,474 Speaker 3: to be what chili chili? 1912 01:27:59,674 --> 01:27:59,874 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1913 01:28:00,194 --> 01:28:02,794 Speaker 3: So good that they practice, you know, now they're in 1914 01:28:02,834 --> 01:28:03,994 Speaker 3: the lower field right. 1915 01:28:04,074 --> 01:28:07,754 Speaker 6: Still, yeah, upper is off limits right now, is being reading. 1916 01:28:08,594 --> 01:28:12,154 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of tough time, you know, playing grass, right. 1917 01:28:12,794 --> 01:28:15,114 Speaker 7: I don't know. Evan's never he's probably the wrong person. 1918 01:28:15,274 --> 01:28:16,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That's true. 1919 01:28:16,834 --> 01:28:18,594 Speaker 6: That's fair, That's totally fair. 1920 01:28:20,354 --> 01:28:23,074 Speaker 3: Any indication because you know, before you got here, we 1921 01:28:23,394 --> 01:28:25,794 Speaker 3: had a lot of talk about Cold Strange it's center. Yeah, 1922 01:28:26,234 --> 01:28:29,194 Speaker 3: any indications about that and yeah, or that he might 1923 01:28:29,234 --> 01:28:30,114 Speaker 3: even play at all. 1924 01:28:30,434 --> 01:28:34,114 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's trending towards Laden Robinson getting back 1925 01:28:34,154 --> 01:28:36,474 Speaker 6: in at left guard and not Cold Strange. I thought 1926 01:28:36,514 --> 01:28:40,394 Speaker 6: maybe Cold Strange. He's played left guard in college in 1927 01:28:40,474 --> 01:28:42,714 Speaker 6: the pros, so it's kind of like riding a bike. 1928 01:28:42,754 --> 01:28:44,794 Speaker 6: I would think for him to some extent to get 1929 01:28:44,834 --> 01:28:46,794 Speaker 6: back out there and play that spot. Even though he's 1930 01:28:46,794 --> 01:28:49,954 Speaker 6: been practicing at center. So right now, I thought Ben 1931 01:28:50,034 --> 01:28:53,834 Speaker 6: Brown has been serviceable. He's certainly not like a standout 1932 01:28:54,474 --> 01:28:56,834 Speaker 6: center by any means, but I don't think that he's 1933 01:28:57,434 --> 01:29:00,274 Speaker 6: been the problem either on their offensive line. Clearly they 1934 01:29:00,314 --> 01:29:02,554 Speaker 6: thought Michael Jordan was a big part of the problem. 1935 01:29:03,234 --> 01:29:05,434 Speaker 6: So I look at left guard as the spot right 1936 01:29:05,474 --> 01:29:07,194 Speaker 6: now that if they were going to make a change, 1937 01:29:07,514 --> 01:29:11,314 Speaker 6: well they are that that's going to be, it would 1938 01:29:11,354 --> 01:29:15,474 Speaker 6: be there, it would be not center, but we'll see. 1939 01:29:15,714 --> 01:29:19,154 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's interesting. Mike talked about that a 1940 01:29:19,154 --> 01:29:23,234 Speaker 4: little bit because I think we all felt Jordan's release yesterday. 1941 01:29:23,394 --> 01:29:26,994 Speaker 4: You know, probably cold, strange we get activated, but maybe 1942 01:29:27,474 --> 01:29:29,674 Speaker 4: even if he's activated to be at center. 1943 01:29:29,994 --> 01:29:32,914 Speaker 6: Yeah, they really like Laden Robinson, and I think we're 1944 01:29:32,954 --> 01:29:35,634 Speaker 6: at the point of the season now where he's gonna 1945 01:29:35,634 --> 01:29:37,794 Speaker 6: make some rookie mistakes and he's gonna have some bad 1946 01:29:37,834 --> 01:29:40,154 Speaker 6: reps and things like that. But you got to develop 1947 01:29:40,354 --> 01:29:42,354 Speaker 6: some of these young players and give some of these 1948 01:29:42,394 --> 01:29:45,594 Speaker 6: guys some opportunities, and I think that's where they're headed 1949 01:29:45,674 --> 01:29:46,394 Speaker 6: right now with Leyden. 1950 01:29:47,114 --> 01:29:50,514 Speaker 3: With tomorrow being off for the team, Yes, was there 1951 01:29:50,554 --> 01:29:53,034 Speaker 3: a big sense of relief from the media. 1952 01:29:54,394 --> 01:29:57,354 Speaker 6: No, because it was predictable. I would say in some 1953 01:29:57,514 --> 01:30:00,434 Speaker 6: respects this is usually how it works. But a lot 1954 01:30:00,514 --> 01:30:04,794 Speaker 6: of talk about you know, Thanksgiving today and where you're 1955 01:30:04,874 --> 01:30:07,874 Speaker 6: going and all that kind of stuff, and it is, 1956 01:30:08,194 --> 01:30:10,114 Speaker 6: you know, the players, it's hard for them because they 1957 01:30:10,274 --> 01:30:13,194 Speaker 6: all their families are all scattered all over the country 1958 01:30:13,314 --> 01:30:15,994 Speaker 6: and so a lot of those guys are are you know, 1959 01:30:16,194 --> 01:30:18,074 Speaker 6: doing Thanksgiving together or the. 1960 01:30:18,074 --> 01:30:20,754 Speaker 3: Past Lawrence guy would have a bunch of guys over anybody, 1961 01:30:21,674 --> 01:30:23,234 Speaker 3: you know taking that over for the team. 1962 01:30:23,314 --> 01:30:26,474 Speaker 6: I haven't heard that, but I I would expect, you know, 1963 01:30:26,594 --> 01:30:28,634 Speaker 6: some pockets of you know gatherings. 1964 01:30:28,954 --> 01:30:31,674 Speaker 9: I know there's some guys going to uh I think 1965 01:30:31,674 --> 01:30:33,474 Speaker 9: a local shelter meals. 1966 01:30:33,674 --> 01:30:36,394 Speaker 6: Yeah. I did hear some some community stuff potentially. 1967 01:30:36,634 --> 01:30:40,194 Speaker 3: That's nice. Yeah, that is nice. Okay, anything else that 1968 01:30:40,234 --> 01:30:42,314 Speaker 3: you want to uh No, Like. 1969 01:30:42,354 --> 01:30:44,314 Speaker 6: I said, it was pretty uneventful. We got back out 1970 01:30:44,354 --> 01:30:48,554 Speaker 6: there for one period of positional drills and uh they 1971 01:30:48,634 --> 01:30:51,954 Speaker 6: hit the offensive line. They didn't get information or anything 1972 01:30:52,074 --> 01:30:54,914 Speaker 6: like that to show, you know what what group they're 1973 01:30:54,914 --> 01:30:56,754 Speaker 6: going to roll with. So maybe on Friday it. 1974 01:30:56,794 --> 01:30:58,594 Speaker 4: Was but guard there he was not. 1975 01:30:58,954 --> 01:31:00,314 Speaker 6: I didn't see him the other day though. What was 1976 01:31:00,354 --> 01:31:01,554 Speaker 6: that yesterday that he was here. 1977 01:31:01,634 --> 01:31:06,314 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said something last night that I thought was unfair. Okay, 1978 01:31:06,434 --> 01:31:09,794 Speaker 3: did you see the early edition on the NBC Sports Boston. 1979 01:31:09,874 --> 01:31:10,514 Speaker 6: I did not know. 1980 01:31:11,114 --> 01:31:13,874 Speaker 3: He was talking about how Girard they're talking about, you know, 1981 01:31:13,954 --> 01:31:17,194 Speaker 3: what's the culture, and how Girard said it's gonna I'm 1982 01:31:17,514 --> 01:31:19,434 Speaker 3: probably not going to be able to establish a culture 1983 01:31:19,474 --> 01:31:21,874 Speaker 3: in year one. Yeah, and he said do you think 1984 01:31:21,954 --> 01:31:24,234 Speaker 3: Bill Parcells said that when he got here? It's like 1985 01:31:24,314 --> 01:31:26,674 Speaker 3: he's comparing Girod Mayo to a guy who won already 1986 01:31:26,714 --> 01:31:29,314 Speaker 3: two Super Bowls, has been you know, a head coach 1987 01:31:29,434 --> 01:31:33,754 Speaker 3: for a while, and you know, like, yeah, Parcels can 1988 01:31:33,874 --> 01:31:36,954 Speaker 3: establish a culture from day one because he's got credibility. 1989 01:31:37,874 --> 01:31:39,834 Speaker 3: So I thought it was an unfair comparison. 1990 01:31:40,514 --> 01:31:42,474 Speaker 6: That's fair. I did hear him make that comparison on 1991 01:31:42,554 --> 01:31:44,674 Speaker 6: the radio with his shows yesterday. 1992 01:31:44,714 --> 01:31:45,674 Speaker 3: Maybe that's where I heard it. 1993 01:31:45,754 --> 01:31:48,154 Speaker 4: Maybe it was I agree with you, I mean, why 1994 01:31:48,154 --> 01:31:49,474 Speaker 4: are we comparing him to Parcels? 1995 01:31:49,634 --> 01:31:49,754 Speaker 13: Right? 1996 01:31:50,834 --> 01:31:54,234 Speaker 4: You know, I don't necessarily understand why you can't establish 1997 01:31:54,634 --> 01:31:57,234 Speaker 4: a culture or away the groundwork for a culture, but 1998 01:31:57,794 --> 01:31:59,434 Speaker 4: but were comparing him to Parcels. 1999 01:31:59,674 --> 01:32:01,514 Speaker 3: I think he was just being honest it's probably gonna 2000 01:32:01,514 --> 01:32:04,114 Speaker 3: take me a while before I can, like, you try, 2001 01:32:04,274 --> 01:32:06,314 Speaker 3: but it's going to take a while because you got 2002 01:32:06,394 --> 01:32:08,594 Speaker 3: to get your guys and and all that stuff. So 2003 01:32:09,034 --> 01:32:10,314 Speaker 3: I just thought that was unfair. 2004 01:32:10,754 --> 01:32:11,754 Speaker 7: Are you on your shows today? 2005 01:32:12,314 --> 01:32:14,154 Speaker 4: I am not on my show today. I'm on my 2006 01:32:14,194 --> 01:32:16,914 Speaker 4: show on Friday with Fred will be making fun of 2007 01:32:16,994 --> 01:32:17,954 Speaker 4: my Thanksgiving talk. 2008 01:32:17,994 --> 01:32:21,434 Speaker 6: Evidently, Oh that was another thing from practice. No barth 2009 01:32:21,514 --> 01:32:26,034 Speaker 6: today because he's on Paul's shows an update. 2010 01:32:26,554 --> 01:32:29,154 Speaker 3: So you know Barthews, Yeah, I should have been on that. 2011 01:32:29,994 --> 01:32:32,314 Speaker 6: He usually reads off the numbers and I check him 2012 01:32:32,314 --> 01:32:34,514 Speaker 6: off on the on the roster. So I'm looking around 2013 01:32:34,514 --> 01:32:36,194 Speaker 6: and I'm like, oh, no, he's not here. What am 2014 01:32:36,234 --> 01:32:38,554 Speaker 6: I gonna do? So I got some help from some 2015 01:32:38,674 --> 01:32:39,634 Speaker 6: other people that were. 2016 01:32:40,394 --> 01:32:43,514 Speaker 3: I couldn't go off. Is that the media roster or 2017 01:32:43,554 --> 01:32:44,314 Speaker 3: the team roster? 2018 01:32:44,674 --> 01:32:52,034 Speaker 6: Okay, days like today, you do take note of who's 2019 01:32:52,074 --> 01:32:53,154 Speaker 6: really the diehards? 2020 01:32:53,234 --> 01:32:55,634 Speaker 9: You know, Well, it's the biggest drinking night of the years. 2021 01:32:55,674 --> 01:32:59,514 Speaker 4: Wants it? Who wants Friday to Friday? 2022 01:32:59,594 --> 01:33:00,394 Speaker 6: Here another one? 2023 01:33:00,474 --> 01:33:02,954 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, it's that time of the week. 2024 01:33:03,354 --> 01:33:04,314 Speaker 19: Oh, here we go. 2025 01:33:04,954 --> 01:33:08,034 Speaker 20: The best part of the show, the sharps. Now it's 2026 01:33:08,074 --> 01:33:10,954 Speaker 20: really three be because the rat home. Will temper ever 2027 01:33:11,034 --> 01:33:14,754 Speaker 20: play a game on the road, separate the boys from 2028 01:33:14,794 --> 01:33:15,114 Speaker 20: the man. 2029 01:33:15,274 --> 01:33:16,874 Speaker 3: We get the block of the week. 2030 01:33:17,074 --> 01:33:21,914 Speaker 20: We again, this is the song until chill makes a 2031 01:33:21,954 --> 01:33:22,434 Speaker 20: real one? 2032 01:33:22,754 --> 01:33:23,394 Speaker 4: Is that up? 2033 01:33:24,714 --> 01:33:25,354 Speaker 3: We gotta. 2034 01:33:26,714 --> 01:33:27,474 Speaker 4: So what you do? 2035 01:33:27,714 --> 01:33:31,994 Speaker 3: Tell a I do a green day? Looks like green day? Right, 2036 01:33:32,074 --> 01:33:33,954 Speaker 3: I've done disco, I've done rock. You don't like those. 2037 01:33:34,194 --> 01:33:36,234 Speaker 4: I like the disco one better, but you know I 2038 01:33:36,634 --> 01:33:36,994 Speaker 4: like disco. 2039 01:33:37,114 --> 01:33:42,594 Speaker 7: Let's try and do a country one next, fever guy, Paul, Yes, 2040 01:33:42,674 --> 01:33:43,634 Speaker 7: you know that I love. 2041 01:33:45,114 --> 01:33:45,354 Speaker 9: I love. 2042 01:33:46,314 --> 01:33:48,474 Speaker 3: You can tell by the way I do my picks. 2043 01:33:48,554 --> 01:33:49,394 Speaker 6: I gotta feeling. 2044 01:33:49,754 --> 01:33:51,714 Speaker 3: I'll delete all right. 2045 01:33:52,634 --> 01:33:55,554 Speaker 4: Thursday, A full slate on all land. 2046 01:33:56,834 --> 01:33:59,394 Speaker 3: Thursday games. 2047 01:33:59,474 --> 01:34:03,994 Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, that's right, Alex and Evan, we got 2048 01:34:04,114 --> 01:34:07,194 Speaker 4: to give the flowers. Fred Yeah, Alex nine and four, 2049 01:34:07,714 --> 01:34:11,674 Speaker 4: we're on fire, nine and FO, Paul eight and five, 2050 01:34:12,274 --> 01:34:16,034 Speaker 4: Mike and Fred seven and six. Here's where the problems come. 2051 01:34:17,354 --> 01:34:22,034 Speaker 4: Paul was eight and five with the spread. Alex and 2052 01:34:22,194 --> 01:34:25,154 Speaker 4: Evan were six and seven, Mike was five and eight, 2053 01:34:26,834 --> 01:34:33,314 Speaker 4: and Fred Freddy three and ten. Freddy's that's the leader. 2054 01:34:33,474 --> 01:34:36,954 Speaker 3: I had a similar week to the Patriots, so the. 2055 01:34:37,034 --> 01:34:41,474 Speaker 4: Overall leader remains Evan one, eighteen and sixty one, Alex 2056 01:34:41,514 --> 01:34:44,594 Speaker 4: and Paul tied at one fifteen and sixty four, Fred 2057 01:34:44,754 --> 01:34:48,034 Speaker 4: one twelve and sixty seven and Mike one ten and 2058 01:34:48,074 --> 01:34:52,154 Speaker 4: sixty nine. You get the poop e motion. Uh. The 2059 01:34:53,034 --> 01:34:57,754 Speaker 4: spread leader, however, and a ironic twist of fate is 2060 01:34:57,874 --> 01:35:01,634 Speaker 4: Mike at ninety eight seventy eight and three, which still 2061 01:35:01,754 --> 01:35:04,794 Speaker 4: makes no sense. Uh. Paul and Evan are tied at 2062 01:35:04,874 --> 01:35:08,474 Speaker 4: ninety six eighty and three. I'm tied for second in 2063 01:35:08,554 --> 01:35:13,714 Speaker 4: both Fred ninety five eighty one and three and Alex 2064 01:35:13,994 --> 01:35:15,514 Speaker 4: ninety two eighty four and three. 2065 01:35:16,514 --> 01:35:18,594 Speaker 7: Again, people making money. 2066 01:35:18,754 --> 01:35:22,073 Speaker 3: Make all making money in making an argument for entertainment 2067 01:35:22,114 --> 01:35:23,234 Speaker 3: purposes only, of course. 2068 01:35:24,314 --> 01:35:28,274 Speaker 4: All right, so full slate the game all together, all 2069 01:35:28,354 --> 01:35:30,994 Speaker 4: sixteen teams, sixteen games, only. 2070 01:35:30,874 --> 01:35:35,394 Speaker 3: One of them good, but whatever. Twelve thirty on CBS, 2071 01:35:35,874 --> 01:35:38,354 Speaker 3: the four and seven Bears are at the ten and 2072 01:35:38,474 --> 01:35:43,073 Speaker 3: one Lions Dutoits by ten ten points. 2073 01:35:45,474 --> 01:35:47,394 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with Detroit in this one. 2074 01:35:47,634 --> 01:35:50,194 Speaker 7: Just feels like, you know, I know, Chicago's been a 2075 01:35:50,194 --> 01:35:52,474 Speaker 7: little bit better since the change, but I'm going to 2076 01:35:52,514 --> 01:35:56,394 Speaker 7: go Detroit blowdoors first game, kicking things off on Thanksgiving. 2077 01:35:56,474 --> 01:35:58,234 Speaker 7: Only the points all ten of them. 2078 01:35:58,434 --> 01:36:01,754 Speaker 9: Yeah me too. Troit at home, I like them to cover. 2079 01:36:02,554 --> 01:36:04,594 Speaker 6: Yeah, the Bears have looked a little bit better. But 2080 01:36:04,714 --> 01:36:07,394 Speaker 6: some of it, I would say is Caleb just making 2081 01:36:07,474 --> 01:36:11,594 Speaker 6: plays was unbelievable. Yeah, I don't know how much of 2082 01:36:11,674 --> 01:36:13,874 Speaker 6: that was. Like the scheme is so much better and 2083 01:36:14,474 --> 01:36:16,834 Speaker 6: just Caleb doing Caleb things. I don't think that holds 2084 01:36:16,914 --> 01:36:19,354 Speaker 6: up against the Lions. So I'm gonna take Lions both ways. 2085 01:36:19,514 --> 01:36:22,154 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I did see one thing in overtime. He 2086 01:36:22,314 --> 01:36:25,594 Speaker 4: took a horrendous sack which basically kind of ended the 2087 01:36:25,674 --> 01:36:29,074 Speaker 4: game for them. But he is he is playing better 2088 01:36:29,434 --> 01:36:31,234 Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. I will lay the points 2089 01:36:31,274 --> 01:36:34,114 Speaker 4: because I think Detroit and the National Window will look 2090 01:36:34,154 --> 01:36:35,394 Speaker 4: to win by as many as they can. 2091 01:36:35,594 --> 01:36:39,074 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, Detroit both ways. Okay, four thirty on 2092 01:36:39,274 --> 01:36:43,954 Speaker 3: Fox in Fox Deportes, the two and nine Giants are 2093 01:36:44,034 --> 01:36:45,874 Speaker 3: at the four and seven Cowboys. 2094 01:36:46,554 --> 01:36:50,114 Speaker 4: Nap Oh yeah, Dallas by three and a half. 2095 01:36:51,434 --> 01:36:54,994 Speaker 7: Man, this is a tough one. Uh, two bad teams. 2096 01:36:55,034 --> 01:36:57,034 Speaker 7: I'm gonna just I'm gonna go with the Dallas the 2097 01:36:57,074 --> 01:37:00,354 Speaker 7: home team in this one, and I'll lay the points. 2098 01:37:00,434 --> 01:37:01,514 Speaker 7: But I don't feel great about it. 2099 01:37:03,034 --> 01:37:07,314 Speaker 9: Yeah, I really hope I'm eating during this game, bad turkey. 2100 01:37:09,834 --> 01:37:12,194 Speaker 9: I'll take the Cowboys. I'm just gonna go with the 2101 01:37:12,234 --> 01:37:12,754 Speaker 9: Sharps here. 2102 01:37:14,834 --> 01:37:17,114 Speaker 6: There's no way we could have flexed this game out. 2103 01:37:18,154 --> 01:37:22,834 Speaker 6: I have done something about this. I'm definitely going with Dallas. 2104 01:37:22,954 --> 01:37:25,114 Speaker 6: I said it last week. I think the decision to 2105 01:37:25,514 --> 01:37:28,194 Speaker 6: Janner Jones might have lost Brian Dable the locker room 2106 01:37:28,274 --> 01:37:30,314 Speaker 6: and his job there in New York. And they played 2107 01:37:30,434 --> 01:37:32,794 Speaker 6: like it last weekend, blown out. So I'm going to 2108 01:37:32,834 --> 01:37:33,394 Speaker 6: go at Dallas. 2109 01:37:34,194 --> 01:37:36,674 Speaker 4: Yeah, I am going to take the Cowboys, but I 2110 01:37:36,754 --> 01:37:42,034 Speaker 4: will take the points. I'll take the hook. Two bad teams, Fred, 2111 01:37:42,194 --> 01:37:43,914 Speaker 4: I'll go with the home team. So I will take 2112 01:37:43,954 --> 01:37:46,754 Speaker 4: Dallas to win the game. But I think the Giants 2113 01:37:46,834 --> 01:37:48,914 Speaker 4: bounce back a little bit. It sounds like Devido might 2114 01:37:48,994 --> 01:37:50,474 Speaker 4: not be able to play, which I think works in 2115 01:37:50,514 --> 01:37:53,754 Speaker 4: the giants favor. If Drew Locke plays, well, give me 2116 01:37:53,834 --> 01:37:54,154 Speaker 4: the hook. 2117 01:37:54,834 --> 01:37:57,714 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Cowboys both ways. Jerry 2118 01:37:57,794 --> 01:38:01,634 Speaker 3: Jones actually said he doesn't rule out an extension like MacArthur. Sure, 2119 01:38:02,514 --> 01:38:06,394 Speaker 3: I think that GM speak, but whatever, all right, eight 2120 01:38:06,514 --> 01:38:12,954 Speaker 3: twenty on Thanksgiving Night, NBC, Telemundo Universo, The five and 2121 01:38:13,114 --> 01:38:16,234 Speaker 3: six Dolphins are at the eight and three Packers. 2122 01:38:17,154 --> 01:38:18,394 Speaker 4: Green Bay by three and a half. 2123 01:38:19,234 --> 01:38:19,434 Speaker 14: Yeah. 2124 01:38:19,554 --> 01:38:21,154 Speaker 7: I was kind of mad at myself last week for 2125 01:38:21,394 --> 01:38:23,874 Speaker 7: going away from green Bay at home as good as 2126 01:38:23,914 --> 01:38:27,674 Speaker 7: Miami looked, I'm gonna go with the home team. A 2127 01:38:27,714 --> 01:38:30,354 Speaker 7: little bit of weather, Lambeau. I like Miami in this 2128 01:38:30,434 --> 01:38:32,514 Speaker 7: game is allay the points. I don't know, but it 2129 01:38:32,594 --> 01:38:33,514 Speaker 7: seems like say that. 2130 01:38:33,634 --> 01:38:37,194 Speaker 3: If you don't know, maybe you just assume a little 2131 01:38:37,194 --> 01:38:37,554 Speaker 3: bit of weather. 2132 01:38:37,794 --> 01:38:39,954 Speaker 4: Are you guys were talking about the weather last weekend 2133 01:38:39,954 --> 01:38:40,914 Speaker 4: at Cleveland game. 2134 01:38:40,954 --> 01:38:44,754 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna right, that was a huge factor. Yeah, 2135 01:38:44,874 --> 01:38:45,954 Speaker 3: I mean if it's gonna. 2136 01:38:45,794 --> 01:38:50,074 Speaker 4: St Yeah, and I just blew it off. Yep, cost 2137 01:38:50,154 --> 01:38:56,554 Speaker 4: myself a win to Packers. Packers, uh thirty degrees, Yeah, 2138 01:38:56,674 --> 01:38:57,474 Speaker 4: so degrees. 2139 01:38:57,634 --> 01:39:00,234 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with the Packers both ways too, because 2140 01:39:00,274 --> 01:39:03,274 Speaker 6: this is the type of game that Miami has not won. 2141 01:39:03,874 --> 01:39:08,314 Speaker 6: It's outside physical football team, like if they they have 2142 01:39:08,474 --> 01:39:11,274 Speaker 6: not won this game since Mike McDaniel has taken over, 2143 01:39:11,354 --> 01:39:12,154 Speaker 6: and I don't think they do. 2144 01:39:12,434 --> 01:39:13,914 Speaker 4: Yeah, same thing they ever just said. 2145 01:39:14,394 --> 01:39:17,194 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Packers as well. All right. 2146 01:39:17,314 --> 01:39:22,634 Speaker 3: Black Friday game, three o'clock on Prime Video. The two 2147 01:39:22,714 --> 01:39:25,634 Speaker 3: and nine Raiders are at the ten and one Chiefs. 2148 01:39:26,394 --> 01:39:30,674 Speaker 7: Chiefs by twelve twelve, all right, Aidan O'Connell. 2149 01:39:31,794 --> 01:39:35,074 Speaker 6: Yeah, for the year, Yeah, right, son. 2150 01:39:35,194 --> 01:39:36,874 Speaker 4: I don't think they've made a decision. I think it 2151 01:39:36,954 --> 01:39:38,314 Speaker 4: could be Desmond Ritter as well. 2152 01:39:39,154 --> 01:39:41,754 Speaker 7: I mean, I know probably what Paul's gonna do, and 2153 01:39:41,834 --> 01:39:43,834 Speaker 7: I know Kansas City hasnt been great with covering. They 2154 01:39:43,834 --> 01:39:45,354 Speaker 7: bit me in the butt last week for it. But 2155 01:39:45,794 --> 01:39:47,954 Speaker 7: I just I can't do it at home in this 2156 01:39:48,114 --> 01:39:49,994 Speaker 7: kind of situation. I'm going to take Kansas City and 2157 01:39:49,994 --> 01:39:51,314 Speaker 7: I'm gonna lay the twelve. 2158 01:39:52,074 --> 01:39:55,594 Speaker 6: Sounds like it's going to be O'Connell, but that's just the. 2159 01:39:56,274 --> 01:39:59,474 Speaker 4: He beat them in this spot last year on Christmas. 2160 01:40:00,434 --> 01:40:03,394 Speaker 7: Yea even more reason in Kansas City revenge. They're not 2161 01:40:03,434 --> 01:40:05,594 Speaker 7: going to sleep on this kid. Chief Chiefs they know 2162 01:40:06,514 --> 01:40:07,234 Speaker 7: take it serious. 2163 01:40:07,594 --> 01:40:10,914 Speaker 6: They're sharps and they know I'm gonna take the Chiefs, 2164 01:40:10,954 --> 01:40:12,754 Speaker 6: but I'm gonna take Vegas to cover that spread. The 2165 01:40:12,834 --> 01:40:15,474 Speaker 6: Chiefs have not been covering spread. You guys were gonna 2166 01:40:16,154 --> 01:40:18,514 Speaker 6: last week against Carolina, so you only win by a 2167 01:40:18,554 --> 01:40:20,354 Speaker 6: field goal? I mean that, what do we do and 2168 01:40:20,434 --> 01:40:21,674 Speaker 6: come back to us Kansas City? 2169 01:40:21,834 --> 01:40:24,874 Speaker 4: So some of us picked it and I will be 2170 01:40:24,954 --> 01:40:29,314 Speaker 4: with it. And again, I just the Chiefs haven't covered 2171 01:40:29,474 --> 01:40:32,314 Speaker 4: any of these spreads all year. You know me, I'm 2172 01:40:32,314 --> 01:40:34,994 Speaker 4: a slave to the trends, Mike. I'll take Kansas City 2173 01:40:35,074 --> 01:40:39,234 Speaker 4: to win the game, but I will take the twelve points, folks. 2174 01:40:40,034 --> 01:40:43,194 Speaker 4: No pause, No, I'm. 2175 01:40:43,074 --> 01:40:45,994 Speaker 3: Gonna go with the chief Chiefs both ways in this game. 2176 01:40:46,074 --> 01:40:50,274 Speaker 3: I just think the Raiders they don't want to win, right, Yeah, 2177 01:40:51,274 --> 01:40:53,794 Speaker 3: so I think that's part of it too. All right, 2178 01:40:53,874 --> 01:40:56,754 Speaker 3: Now we move on to December. Now we move on 2179 01:40:56,834 --> 01:40:58,754 Speaker 3: to Sunday, December first. 2180 01:40:58,794 --> 01:40:59,794 Speaker 4: I like the way you're sounding. 2181 01:41:00,234 --> 01:41:05,194 Speaker 3: We do move on December one o'clock on CBS. The 2182 01:41:05,474 --> 01:41:09,074 Speaker 3: seven and four Chargers are at the six and five Falcons. 2183 01:41:10,794 --> 01:41:12,554 Speaker 4: The Lack by two and a half. 2184 01:41:13,354 --> 01:41:16,474 Speaker 7: Two and a half tough loss there for the Lack 2185 01:41:17,074 --> 01:41:19,674 Speaker 7: to the Ravens. You know what, I've been going all 2186 01:41:19,714 --> 01:41:22,914 Speaker 7: home teams. I still don't believe in Atlanta. I'm gonna go. 2187 01:41:22,914 --> 01:41:24,354 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the Lack on the road and 2188 01:41:24,434 --> 01:41:25,154 Speaker 7: I'll lay the points. 2189 01:41:25,754 --> 01:41:26,234 Speaker 9: Retweet. 2190 01:41:27,554 --> 01:41:29,434 Speaker 6: It's a tough one. These are two teams I don't trust. 2191 01:41:29,594 --> 01:41:31,714 Speaker 6: I don't trust either of these teams. We we did 2192 01:41:31,794 --> 01:41:34,314 Speaker 6: get the Chargers not being up for the big dogs though. 2193 01:41:34,354 --> 01:41:36,354 Speaker 6: We got that right, Paul So last week. So I'm 2194 01:41:36,394 --> 01:41:40,394 Speaker 6: gonna say the Chargers win this game and they cover. 2195 01:41:40,554 --> 01:41:42,834 Speaker 6: But I don't know what to take of either of 2196 01:41:42,874 --> 01:41:43,714 Speaker 6: these teams right now. 2197 01:41:45,194 --> 01:41:50,834 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I'm going to take Atlanta at home 2198 01:41:50,914 --> 01:41:53,434 Speaker 4: to bounce back. I just I don't think that they've 2199 01:41:53,514 --> 01:41:58,474 Speaker 4: been great. I think Chargers are probably better, but I'm 2200 01:41:58,514 --> 01:41:59,754 Speaker 4: gonna take the Falcons at home. 2201 01:42:00,594 --> 01:42:05,794 Speaker 3: Yeah, folks, this is your upset of the. 2202 01:42:05,834 --> 01:42:09,314 Speaker 4: Week, Okay, Atlanta, Atlanta wins. Okay, so I need to 2203 01:42:09,554 --> 01:42:10,314 Speaker 4: make note of that. 2204 01:42:14,514 --> 01:42:17,954 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's your asterisk. All right, one o'clock CBS. The 2205 01:42:18,074 --> 01:42:21,274 Speaker 3: eight and three Steelers are at the four and seven Bengals. 2206 01:42:21,674 --> 01:42:22,674 Speaker 4: Bengals by three. 2207 01:42:23,314 --> 01:42:24,194 Speaker 3: You at the money line? 2208 01:42:24,874 --> 01:42:26,194 Speaker 4: I'd you not have the money line. 2209 01:42:26,834 --> 01:42:28,794 Speaker 3: I don't know what that is anyway, So it doesn't matter. 2210 01:42:29,514 --> 01:42:32,314 Speaker 4: You just got the money line. You just need a winner. 2211 01:42:33,274 --> 01:42:35,874 Speaker 6: Money line is Pittsburgh PA up. 2212 01:42:36,314 --> 01:42:37,554 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh plus one thirty. 2213 01:42:37,674 --> 01:42:40,194 Speaker 3: That means if Pittsburgh win thirty, I win one hundred 2214 01:42:40,234 --> 01:42:40,634 Speaker 3: and thirty. 2215 01:42:41,034 --> 01:42:42,193 Speaker 4: I think you've got one hundred. 2216 01:42:41,954 --> 01:42:45,234 Speaker 3: To win one hundred win. Yeah, so what if I lose? 2217 01:42:45,954 --> 01:42:46,234 Speaker 3: You lose? 2218 01:42:47,434 --> 01:42:49,554 Speaker 4: I just said, you've got one hundred to one hundred 2219 01:42:49,554 --> 01:42:49,954 Speaker 4: and thirty. 2220 01:42:50,154 --> 01:42:52,874 Speaker 7: If you lose, you'll lose a hundred, you lose two hundred. 2221 01:42:53,194 --> 01:42:54,114 Speaker 4: Need I need a drink? 2222 01:42:55,634 --> 01:42:57,714 Speaker 9: Why are you even putting the pepsi away? If you 2223 01:42:57,794 --> 01:42:58,994 Speaker 9: don't have the whole leader. 2224 01:42:58,914 --> 01:43:01,434 Speaker 7: Breaking out of the leader like fourteen year old. 2225 01:43:01,354 --> 01:43:03,554 Speaker 3: Kid in his like getting out of a coffee. 2226 01:43:03,714 --> 01:43:07,554 Speaker 4: Why don't you just go your just get a big straw. 2227 01:43:07,794 --> 01:43:08,554 Speaker 3: I need a drink. 2228 01:43:08,714 --> 01:43:12,154 Speaker 6: He calls out a two liters. Great, that's a. 2229 01:43:12,154 --> 01:43:14,594 Speaker 9: Good gift for Paul for a secret Santa when we 2230 01:43:14,714 --> 01:43:16,074 Speaker 9: do it a giant straw. 2231 01:43:16,274 --> 01:43:16,434 Speaker 8: Oh. 2232 01:43:16,674 --> 01:43:18,034 Speaker 7: I thought you were like one of those helmets with 2233 01:43:18,114 --> 01:43:20,594 Speaker 7: the I'm not doing Secret Santa. 2234 01:43:20,914 --> 01:43:23,954 Speaker 4: Oh a yank Yankee swah Yankee. 2235 01:43:25,634 --> 01:43:28,114 Speaker 6: We do yankeewis it was bringing the jersey Mike skift. 2236 01:43:28,154 --> 01:43:29,954 Speaker 4: Mike, you saw my panic. I have to buy for 2237 01:43:30,074 --> 01:43:31,554 Speaker 4: someone individually, No, no. 2238 01:43:32,274 --> 01:43:33,674 Speaker 6: Right, uh, sailor. 2239 01:43:34,314 --> 01:43:35,754 Speaker 7: You know, I think a lot of us are are 2240 01:43:35,834 --> 01:43:37,954 Speaker 7: kind of like not believing in Pittsburgh still and and 2241 01:43:38,194 --> 01:43:40,194 Speaker 7: kind of just want them to lose. And I'm one 2242 01:43:40,234 --> 01:43:42,594 Speaker 7: of them. So I'm going to go with Cincy at 2243 01:43:42,634 --> 01:43:46,114 Speaker 7: Home with Joe Burrow. I seven great statistical year at least, 2244 01:43:46,394 --> 01:43:47,834 Speaker 7: so i'll anybody own this series. 2245 01:43:49,634 --> 01:43:53,634 Speaker 4: Uh, I would assume Pittsburgh since they're always good and 2246 01:43:53,674 --> 01:43:57,354 Speaker 4: Cincinnati is always bad. But I don't know you picked Cincinnati. 2247 01:43:57,394 --> 01:43:57,554 Speaker 19: I did. 2248 01:43:57,594 --> 01:43:58,474 Speaker 7: I'm going to lay the points. 2249 01:43:59,954 --> 01:44:00,714 Speaker 3: What was the spread? 2250 01:44:00,834 --> 01:44:02,314 Speaker 4: Three? Cincinnati by three. 2251 01:44:02,514 --> 01:44:04,994 Speaker 9: I'm going to take the home team to win. I 2252 01:44:05,074 --> 01:44:07,674 Speaker 9: think it could be a close ish game, though, so 2253 01:44:07,794 --> 01:44:09,954 Speaker 9: I'll I'll give the Steelers the hook. 2254 01:44:10,474 --> 01:44:10,674 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2255 01:44:12,194 --> 01:44:14,954 Speaker 6: Yeah, So Burrow Hass lost three out of his last 2256 01:44:15,074 --> 01:44:20,074 Speaker 6: four to Pittsburgh. I lost both games last year. I 2257 01:44:20,234 --> 01:44:23,554 Speaker 6: picked the Steelers to win and got burned by Cleveland 2258 01:44:23,674 --> 01:44:26,794 Speaker 6: last week. And just when I started to try rust Pittsburgh, 2259 01:44:26,914 --> 01:44:30,954 Speaker 6: they burned me. So I'm just in the pickle. I'm 2260 01:44:30,994 --> 01:44:32,994 Speaker 6: gonna take Pittsburgh. I think they bounce back. 2261 01:44:34,154 --> 01:44:36,274 Speaker 4: So I do think this is an interesting spread. Four 2262 01:44:36,354 --> 01:44:39,834 Speaker 4: and seven favored over eight and three. The Sharps know something. 2263 01:44:39,954 --> 01:44:42,754 Speaker 4: I am gonna go with the Sharps. I'm gonna take 2264 01:44:42,794 --> 01:44:44,474 Speaker 4: Cincinnati saying that they know something. 2265 01:44:44,834 --> 01:44:48,394 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, Paul. The Sharps know something in 2266 01:44:48,474 --> 01:44:51,554 Speaker 3: this game. I don't know what it is, but something 2267 01:44:51,794 --> 01:44:53,314 Speaker 3: they know somebody's gonna win. 2268 01:44:54,394 --> 01:44:56,234 Speaker 4: They know by about three. 2269 01:44:56,754 --> 01:44:59,354 Speaker 3: There is something and they know it. Three point they 2270 01:44:59,434 --> 01:45:04,434 Speaker 3: know it, so very very intrigued by that spread. All right, 2271 01:45:04,994 --> 01:45:08,394 Speaker 3: one o'clock on Fox, the seven and five Texans are 2272 01:45:08,434 --> 01:45:11,074 Speaker 3: at the two and nine Jaguars. 2273 01:45:10,674 --> 01:45:14,394 Speaker 4: Houston by four and a half, suddenly reeling Hue, Bobby 2274 01:45:14,474 --> 01:45:15,954 Speaker 4: Slowik on the hot seats, C. J. 2275 01:45:16,114 --> 01:45:20,914 Speaker 7: Stroud sophomore BB killing them BB obviously. 2276 01:45:21,354 --> 01:45:24,394 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, William, team that has talent he doesn't like. 2277 01:45:25,234 --> 01:45:26,834 Speaker 4: I was kind of surprised because, I mean, you can 2278 01:45:26,874 --> 01:45:28,594 Speaker 4: get a quarterback and a lot of good players and 2279 01:45:28,674 --> 01:45:30,514 Speaker 4: get good that way if you want, but there's really 2280 01:45:30,554 --> 01:45:31,794 Speaker 4: not much coaching involved in that. 2281 01:45:32,114 --> 01:45:34,434 Speaker 3: Paul. The people on your shows rooting for the two 2282 01:45:34,474 --> 01:45:35,474 Speaker 3: win teams to win. 2283 01:45:36,194 --> 01:45:39,714 Speaker 4: On my shows, yeah, I don't know if they have 2284 01:45:40,154 --> 01:45:41,034 Speaker 4: mean for the draft pick. 2285 01:45:41,114 --> 01:45:44,354 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna take Houston to win, but I want 2286 01:45:44,394 --> 01:45:46,754 Speaker 7: to take the points. I'm gonna say it's a close game. 2287 01:45:46,914 --> 01:45:48,474 Speaker 7: I'll take Jacksonville plus four. 2288 01:45:49,754 --> 01:45:50,314 Speaker 4: That's how much. 2289 01:45:50,354 --> 01:45:50,554 Speaker 3: It does. 2290 01:45:50,634 --> 01:45:53,874 Speaker 6: Sound like Trevor is back at practice, so it could 2291 01:45:53,874 --> 01:45:57,634 Speaker 6: be his back practice, but I don't know if he's 2292 01:45:57,674 --> 01:46:00,594 Speaker 6: playing on Sunday. But it just sounds like he's getting healthier. 2293 01:46:01,474 --> 01:46:02,514 Speaker 6: That's it. That's all I got. 2294 01:46:02,834 --> 01:46:05,954 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I got screwed last week. If I 2295 01:46:06,034 --> 01:46:08,474 Speaker 3: had known Perty wasn't playing, I would not have picked 2296 01:46:08,514 --> 01:46:09,074 Speaker 3: the forty nine. 2297 01:46:09,114 --> 01:46:10,434 Speaker 4: Me too, I got screwed on that. 2298 01:46:10,514 --> 01:46:10,914 Speaker 3: I did too. 2299 01:46:11,074 --> 01:46:11,914 Speaker 7: I did the same time. 2300 01:46:12,914 --> 01:46:14,834 Speaker 3: I was thinking of calling when I heard about it 2301 01:46:15,114 --> 01:46:15,874 Speaker 3: on Fridays. 2302 01:46:17,714 --> 01:46:20,034 Speaker 4: But at the same time, I had no idea that 2303 01:46:20,114 --> 01:46:21,234 Speaker 4: Perty wasn't playing and his. 2304 01:46:21,314 --> 01:46:24,434 Speaker 6: Defense party did get hurt at practice on like Thursday. 2305 01:46:24,154 --> 01:46:27,874 Speaker 4: Night, no idea was playing. I picked the Packers. 2306 01:46:28,194 --> 01:46:29,714 Speaker 6: You could have just had a feel for the league. 2307 01:46:30,074 --> 01:46:34,114 Speaker 9: Your fault will Houston Houston. I need to know for 2308 01:46:34,234 --> 01:46:36,674 Speaker 9: sure that Trevor's playing to have any faith in the 2309 01:46:36,754 --> 01:46:40,754 Speaker 9: Jaguars even coming close to covering. So sorry, Mac Johones. 2310 01:46:42,194 --> 01:46:45,114 Speaker 6: There's some optimism it says for Trevor to play in 2311 01:46:45,194 --> 01:46:47,314 Speaker 6: this game. But I'm gonna go with Houston too. I 2312 01:46:47,634 --> 01:46:50,194 Speaker 6: do think they bounced back a little bit, kind of 2313 01:46:50,234 --> 01:46:52,554 Speaker 6: some flukiness from that game last week. It was a 2314 01:46:52,594 --> 01:46:54,034 Speaker 6: weird one. So I got Houston. 2315 01:46:54,394 --> 01:46:56,794 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm taking Houston both ways too. If I knew 2316 01:46:56,874 --> 01:46:59,594 Speaker 4: that Lawrence was healthy, I would do the Mike do 2317 01:46:59,714 --> 01:47:04,274 Speaker 4: so take the points. But if Mac Jones plays, you 2318 01:47:04,314 --> 01:47:04,994 Speaker 4: don't believe. 2319 01:47:04,754 --> 01:47:05,754 Speaker 7: In the Mac all of a sudden. 2320 01:47:05,834 --> 01:47:09,874 Speaker 4: Okay, fine, yeah, I'm gonna go. Well, that's funny, he's 2321 01:47:09,914 --> 01:47:11,874 Speaker 4: not in the Patriots anymore, so you no longer believe 2322 01:47:11,914 --> 01:47:12,154 Speaker 4: in him. 2323 01:47:12,234 --> 01:47:14,034 Speaker 3: Right if they didn't break them, I'm gonna go with 2324 01:47:14,114 --> 01:47:17,954 Speaker 3: Houston as well. One o'clock on Fox, the six and 2325 01:47:18,114 --> 01:47:22,434 Speaker 3: five Cardinals are at the nine to two Vikings. We'll 2326 01:47:22,474 --> 01:47:25,034 Speaker 3: see if the Cardinals are looking ahead to our game too. 2327 01:47:25,434 --> 01:47:25,754 Speaker 3: From now. 2328 01:47:28,354 --> 01:47:29,714 Speaker 4: Minnesota by three and a half. 2329 01:47:30,714 --> 01:47:34,794 Speaker 7: Hmmmmm, that's an interesting spread, I think too. 2330 01:47:36,074 --> 01:47:36,554 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. 2331 01:47:36,634 --> 01:47:39,114 Speaker 7: I was on the Arizona train last week and I 2332 01:47:39,234 --> 01:47:40,994 Speaker 7: feel like I'm getting off of it pretty quick. But 2333 01:47:41,594 --> 01:47:43,994 Speaker 7: I'll take Minnesota at home. I'll lay the points. 2334 01:47:44,314 --> 01:47:44,714 Speaker 9: Same thing. 2335 01:47:47,594 --> 01:47:50,954 Speaker 6: I do want to take my Cardinals. But to prevail 2336 01:47:51,274 --> 01:47:53,914 Speaker 6: your Cardinals, oh yeah, I haven't liked that's my team. 2337 01:47:55,034 --> 01:47:57,714 Speaker 6: But I'm gonna take the Vikings. They did. The win 2338 01:47:57,914 --> 01:48:01,114 Speaker 6: last week for Minnesota was almost an epic loss, so 2339 01:48:01,234 --> 01:48:03,354 Speaker 6: I'm a little worried about them. They're kind of reeling 2340 01:48:03,394 --> 01:48:05,434 Speaker 6: a little bit there. But I'll take Minnesota. 2341 01:48:07,874 --> 01:48:11,514 Speaker 4: I'm going to take Minnesota at home, but I will 2342 01:48:11,594 --> 01:48:14,154 Speaker 4: take the points. If Arizona to bounce back, I'll take 2343 01:48:14,194 --> 01:48:14,514 Speaker 4: the hook. 2344 01:48:14,634 --> 01:48:16,634 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I'm hedging my bet there. 2345 01:48:16,674 --> 01:48:21,034 Speaker 3: I'm taking those points. But Vikings win. One o'clock on Fox. 2346 01:48:21,274 --> 01:48:23,834 Speaker 3: The six and five Seahawks are at the three and 2347 01:48:23,954 --> 01:48:26,314 Speaker 3: eight Jets Seattle by two. 2348 01:48:28,074 --> 01:48:32,554 Speaker 7: Oh boy, Yeah, you know. I usually love Seattle at home, 2349 01:48:32,634 --> 01:48:35,034 Speaker 7: but I think they'll travel. Okay, this this Jets team, 2350 01:48:35,074 --> 01:48:37,314 Speaker 7: I just I don't believe in it. I'll take Seattle. 2351 01:48:37,314 --> 01:48:38,994 Speaker 7: I'll lay the points and the point and a half. 2352 01:48:39,114 --> 01:48:41,354 Speaker 4: That's all we said. One point five two. 2353 01:48:43,074 --> 01:48:46,394 Speaker 6: This is a ten and a ten am bodyclock game, 2354 01:48:46,674 --> 01:48:48,434 Speaker 6: which always worries me a little bit. 2355 01:48:48,514 --> 01:48:50,114 Speaker 7: But they're they're a morning team. 2356 01:48:50,194 --> 01:48:52,274 Speaker 6: But I'm gonna take Seattle because I think they're just better. 2357 01:48:53,634 --> 01:48:57,754 Speaker 4: So I can't believe I'm doing it. You're gonna do 2358 01:48:57,754 --> 01:49:03,634 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna take the Jets at home. I don't 2359 01:49:03,634 --> 01:49:05,634 Speaker 4: think there's much difference between these two teams, and if 2360 01:49:05,634 --> 01:49:07,954 Speaker 4: the Jets play hard, I think that they are probably 2361 01:49:08,074 --> 01:49:11,394 Speaker 4: better than Seattle. At some point. They have to play hard, 2362 01:49:11,434 --> 01:49:14,954 Speaker 4: don't they. Yeah, but I think that I'm gonna take 2363 01:49:14,954 --> 01:49:15,354 Speaker 4: the Jets. 2364 01:49:15,394 --> 01:49:18,034 Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying, but I'm not taking the 2365 01:49:18,074 --> 01:49:20,914 Speaker 3: Seahawks because I just think Rogers can be stopped. I 2366 01:49:20,994 --> 01:49:25,113 Speaker 3: think he's limited and whether it's just age or injury, 2367 01:49:25,714 --> 01:49:30,274 Speaker 3: ad he just can't do it. So I'm gonna go. 2368 01:49:30,554 --> 01:49:34,073 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Seahawks. There one o'clock CBS. 2369 01:49:34,274 --> 01:49:36,994 Speaker 3: The three and eight Titans are at the seven and 2370 01:49:37,194 --> 01:49:40,514 Speaker 3: five Commanders, Washington by five and a half. 2371 01:49:41,114 --> 01:49:45,954 Speaker 7: Cool Ah, It's an interesting game. I think. I'm not 2372 01:49:46,034 --> 01:49:49,674 Speaker 7: sure I saw Levis doing what he did last week, 2373 01:49:49,754 --> 01:49:53,354 Speaker 7: So I'm gonna take Washington to win. But I'm gonna 2374 01:49:53,354 --> 01:49:55,954 Speaker 7: take those points for Tennessee. I think it's with Levis 2375 01:49:55,994 --> 01:49:56,434 Speaker 7: hangs him in. 2376 01:49:56,434 --> 01:50:01,154 Speaker 9: There, Commanders lay the points. 2377 01:50:02,514 --> 01:50:05,234 Speaker 6: Yeah, IM gonna split it like Deuce the Commanders. The 2378 01:50:05,274 --> 01:50:09,234 Speaker 6: Cliff Kingsbury second half of the season thing is happening 2379 01:50:09,314 --> 01:50:12,554 Speaker 6: again with their offense that Cliff Kingsbury gets figured out 2380 01:50:12,594 --> 01:50:15,194 Speaker 6: at this by this time of year. So I don't 2381 01:50:15,194 --> 01:50:17,874 Speaker 6: know what's going on with with that, if it's Jaydon 2382 01:50:17,954 --> 01:50:21,034 Speaker 6: Daniels related or what. But I'm gonna take Commanders to win, 2383 01:50:21,114 --> 01:50:21,714 Speaker 6: Titans to cover. 2384 01:50:21,874 --> 01:50:25,034 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Washington both ways. I did see the 2385 01:50:25,514 --> 01:50:27,314 Speaker 4: chart of the Kingsbury thing. 2386 01:50:27,714 --> 01:50:29,114 Speaker 6: Like all the way back to Texas Tech. 2387 01:50:29,514 --> 01:50:32,634 Speaker 4: This is the thing that I think this particular version 2388 01:50:32,754 --> 01:50:35,354 Speaker 4: has more to do with Washington just doesn't really have 2389 01:50:35,434 --> 01:50:37,714 Speaker 4: a whole lot of talent. They have McLaurin, and that's 2390 01:50:37,794 --> 01:50:40,153 Speaker 4: kind of it in terms of his weapons. 2391 01:50:40,674 --> 01:50:43,194 Speaker 3: But it's the Titan. 2392 01:50:43,234 --> 01:50:45,034 Speaker 4: I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna this is more of an 2393 01:50:45,074 --> 01:50:48,434 Speaker 4: anti Titans pick. I'm gonna take Washington. I will talk 2394 01:50:48,474 --> 01:50:49,554 Speaker 4: about reeling note. 2395 01:50:49,714 --> 01:50:52,714 Speaker 3: I will I will take the points. I will take 2396 01:50:52,754 --> 01:50:53,194 Speaker 3: the points. 2397 01:50:53,434 --> 01:50:55,594 Speaker 6: I was thinking about that with the Commander's points. They 2398 01:50:55,594 --> 01:50:57,074 Speaker 6: don't really have a ton of talent and they were 2399 01:50:57,154 --> 01:50:59,474 Speaker 6: kind of overachieving. And now I wonder if it's coming. 2400 01:50:59,674 --> 01:51:02,194 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Now we skip over the Patriots at 2401 01:51:02,234 --> 01:51:04,874 Speaker 3: one o'clock and we moved to four oh five on Fox, 2402 01:51:05,674 --> 01:51:10,154 Speaker 3: the five and six Buccaneers with Baker Mayfield against Baking 2403 01:51:10,634 --> 01:51:13,834 Speaker 3: three and eight Panthers, Tampa by six. 2404 01:51:17,714 --> 01:51:20,354 Speaker 7: Another interesting one. I'm gonna take Tampa to win, but 2405 01:51:21,394 --> 01:51:24,474 Speaker 7: obviously Carolina's showing a little spark here down the end. 2406 01:51:24,634 --> 01:51:28,474 Speaker 7: Funny happens, Bryce Young maybe putting it together. I'm gonna 2407 01:51:28,514 --> 01:51:29,394 Speaker 7: take the points. 2408 01:51:29,634 --> 01:51:30,554 Speaker 4: For Carolina Tampa. 2409 01:51:30,554 --> 01:51:33,034 Speaker 7: I'm to say they play another close game in the division. 2410 01:51:32,714 --> 01:51:33,474 Speaker 4: But they points. 2411 01:51:34,914 --> 01:51:36,274 Speaker 9: I'm gonna split it the same way. 2412 01:51:38,194 --> 01:51:42,394 Speaker 6: Yeah, Tampa wins Carolina covers Bryce Young. It looks like 2413 01:51:42,514 --> 01:51:45,074 Speaker 6: he might have turned the corner here a little bit. 2414 01:51:45,514 --> 01:51:47,954 Speaker 7: That touchdown I want to throw its like whoa mustard? 2415 01:51:47,954 --> 01:51:48,634 Speaker 6: Looks much better. 2416 01:51:48,754 --> 01:51:51,354 Speaker 4: He has played better, you know. I'm not sure what 2417 01:51:51,514 --> 01:51:54,474 Speaker 4: his long term you know, ceiling is, but he has 2418 01:51:54,514 --> 01:51:57,194 Speaker 4: played better since he came back, which is something that 2419 01:51:57,274 --> 01:51:59,954 Speaker 4: we talked about the whole like, you can't play Drake 2420 01:52:00,074 --> 01:52:02,834 Speaker 4: may because then you can't take him out, Like, no, 2421 01:52:03,034 --> 01:52:05,194 Speaker 4: you can. You can play him and he can play 2422 01:52:05,234 --> 01:52:07,194 Speaker 4: poorly and you can take him out, have a timeout. 2423 01:52:07,274 --> 01:52:09,754 Speaker 4: Doesn't necessarily mean that this life is over. He can 2424 01:52:09,834 --> 01:52:10,234 Speaker 4: come back. 2425 01:52:10,394 --> 01:52:11,674 Speaker 6: I mean the Colts are doing the same thing with 2426 01:52:11,754 --> 01:52:14,354 Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson, and I mean he didn't play well last week, 2427 01:52:14,394 --> 01:52:16,114 Speaker 6: but he had a really good game against the Jets 2428 01:52:16,154 --> 01:52:17,034 Speaker 6: and almost won that game. 2429 01:52:17,114 --> 01:52:19,194 Speaker 4: So I will take Tampa. I'm gonna lay the points. 2430 01:52:19,234 --> 01:52:21,634 Speaker 4: I think too much offense. I think they can run 2431 01:52:21,674 --> 01:52:24,154 Speaker 4: the ball on Carolina. Too much offense. 2432 01:52:24,674 --> 01:52:26,474 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Panthers both ways. 2433 01:52:26,714 --> 01:52:28,674 Speaker 4: Wow, that's not gonna be your upset. 2434 01:52:29,754 --> 01:52:30,234 Speaker 6: It's not a lot. 2435 01:52:30,554 --> 01:52:32,754 Speaker 4: You're not a lot. You're not feeling about that though. 2436 01:52:33,354 --> 01:52:37,314 Speaker 3: I see I see three interceptions in Baker may Field's future. 2437 01:52:37,794 --> 01:52:40,594 Speaker 4: Well, that's that's because the day, end of day, that's 2438 01:52:40,714 --> 01:52:41,754 Speaker 4: that's that's big, make. 2439 01:52:41,674 --> 01:52:43,474 Speaker 6: The league and turnover worthy players right now. 2440 01:52:43,634 --> 01:52:46,874 Speaker 3: So Panthers with the big upset four o five on Fox. 2441 01:52:47,434 --> 01:52:50,034 Speaker 3: The five and six Rams are at the four and 2442 01:52:50,194 --> 01:52:51,394 Speaker 3: seven Saints. 2443 01:52:51,554 --> 01:52:52,994 Speaker 4: The Lar by two and a half. 2444 01:52:54,914 --> 01:52:56,954 Speaker 7: A little disappointed last week with the Lar. 2445 01:52:58,994 --> 01:53:02,194 Speaker 4: And you know sent yard touchdown runs bad. That is bad. 2446 01:53:03,354 --> 01:53:05,514 Speaker 7: And you know there's just something about New Orleans a 2447 01:53:05,554 --> 01:53:08,154 Speaker 7: little spark to them too. Ah, you know what, I'm 2448 01:53:08,194 --> 01:53:09,754 Speaker 7: gonna just stick with the ROMs. 2449 01:53:11,034 --> 01:53:11,794 Speaker 4: He talks himself in. 2450 01:53:11,954 --> 01:53:15,634 Speaker 6: And some of these schemes are tough. 2451 01:53:15,674 --> 01:53:17,114 Speaker 7: When they only have a small spread, you know, it 2452 01:53:17,114 --> 01:53:18,594 Speaker 7: probably means it's going to be close, so you got 2453 01:53:18,714 --> 01:53:18,874 Speaker 7: to you. 2454 01:53:18,874 --> 01:53:19,554 Speaker 6: Gotta figure it out. 2455 01:53:19,634 --> 01:53:21,714 Speaker 4: So you've got to cover all your brain to the use. 2456 01:53:22,674 --> 01:53:24,394 Speaker 7: I'm I'm gonna lay the points. 2457 01:53:25,354 --> 01:53:28,314 Speaker 4: This is the guy who's leadings. 2458 01:53:30,114 --> 01:53:32,594 Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't know why Vegas likes the Saints. I 2459 01:53:32,634 --> 01:53:34,754 Speaker 6: feel like every time we do this, the Saints are 2460 01:53:34,834 --> 01:53:36,834 Speaker 6: at least in a close spread or something like that. 2461 01:53:37,114 --> 01:53:39,074 Speaker 6: I like the Rams. I think they're good enough to 2462 01:53:39,114 --> 01:53:41,114 Speaker 6: beat teams like the Saints, but not good enough to 2463 01:53:41,154 --> 01:53:42,114 Speaker 6: be teams like the Eagles. 2464 01:53:42,434 --> 01:53:44,954 Speaker 4: Evans having a really good show because he's saying things 2465 01:53:44,994 --> 01:53:47,874 Speaker 4: you agree with a lot of things that I think the. 2466 01:53:50,874 --> 01:53:54,714 Speaker 9: Little echo chamber on right, the black sweat. 2467 01:53:57,714 --> 01:54:00,514 Speaker 3: So you're done, yes, okay, I'll take the Rams. 2468 01:54:00,754 --> 01:54:02,474 Speaker 4: Don't give me attitude finished. 2469 01:54:02,194 --> 01:54:05,234 Speaker 3: I'll take the Rams only one, four to twenty five gigs. 2470 01:54:05,554 --> 01:54:08,834 Speaker 3: It's on CBS. It's the nine and two Eagles at 2471 01:54:08,874 --> 01:54:10,674 Speaker 3: the eight and four Ravens. 2472 01:54:11,794 --> 01:54:14,514 Speaker 4: Nine and two Eagles, eight and four, Baltimore by three. 2473 01:54:14,634 --> 01:54:15,754 Speaker 6: See, like, why isn't this game? 2474 01:54:15,914 --> 01:54:16,874 Speaker 3: This is interesting? 2475 01:54:17,194 --> 01:54:17,434 Speaker 17: Yeah? 2476 01:54:18,074 --> 01:54:20,554 Speaker 3: This isn't folks, this is interesting. 2477 01:54:21,874 --> 01:54:24,714 Speaker 7: I like this game this and I don't feel like 2478 01:54:24,754 --> 01:54:26,594 Speaker 7: I have a great feel on Baltimore. Obviously last week 2479 01:54:26,594 --> 01:54:29,154 Speaker 7: I got Baltimore wrong. But I feel pretty good about 2480 01:54:29,154 --> 01:54:32,154 Speaker 7: this being a Baltimore los this game. So I'm gonna 2481 01:54:32,154 --> 01:54:35,474 Speaker 7: take Philly and I'm gonna grab those plus three points, 2482 01:54:35,874 --> 01:54:36,794 Speaker 7: not that they're gonna need it. 2483 01:54:37,914 --> 01:54:40,394 Speaker 9: I hope you bring that back out the Baltimore loses game. 2484 01:54:42,154 --> 01:54:43,674 Speaker 9: I'm going to take the Ravens at home. 2485 01:54:45,674 --> 01:54:48,674 Speaker 6: I yeah, I'm not totally sold on the Ravens either. 2486 01:54:48,674 --> 01:54:51,594 Speaker 6: Their defense still looks they're really bad and it's like 2487 01:54:51,714 --> 01:54:55,434 Speaker 6: kind of just Lamar being Glamar a lot of the time. Offensively, 2488 01:54:55,834 --> 01:54:59,114 Speaker 6: I like Philly in this game. Philly's offensive line back 2489 01:54:59,194 --> 01:55:00,954 Speaker 6: to being one of the best in football. They just 2490 01:55:01,074 --> 01:55:02,714 Speaker 6: lean on teams and then you get into the fourth 2491 01:55:02,794 --> 01:55:05,954 Speaker 6: quarter and Barkley's rolling and it's just like it's a 2492 01:55:06,274 --> 01:55:09,314 Speaker 6: jumping back, runaway freight train. So I'm going Philly. 2493 01:55:09,514 --> 01:55:12,874 Speaker 4: That has absolutely been the Eagles m over the last 2494 01:55:12,954 --> 01:55:17,274 Speaker 4: like six weeks, dominate in the second half against Yeah, 2495 01:55:17,594 --> 01:55:19,914 Speaker 4: I am taking the Ravens because I think too much 2496 01:55:20,074 --> 01:55:24,034 Speaker 4: offense and if they want to play that slow starting 2497 01:55:24,114 --> 01:55:26,394 Speaker 4: style and run the ball, I think they might fall 2498 01:55:26,474 --> 01:55:29,194 Speaker 4: behind in this game. So I'll take the Ravens at home. 2499 01:55:30,234 --> 01:55:33,594 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a tough one. I mean, what Paul 2500 01:55:33,674 --> 01:55:35,874 Speaker 3: said is probably why they're favored by three. 2501 01:55:36,034 --> 01:55:38,074 Speaker 4: Well, they're two really good teams, and they went with 2502 01:55:38,114 --> 01:55:38,594 Speaker 4: the home team. 2503 01:55:38,794 --> 01:55:44,314 Speaker 3: I know, But the Ravens are having trouble, you know, defensively, yes, yes, 2504 01:55:44,874 --> 01:55:47,234 Speaker 3: But the Eagles of it, it's so weird, you know, 2505 01:55:47,394 --> 01:55:52,034 Speaker 3: like it doesn't seem to like have a like Barkley's great, 2506 01:55:52,194 --> 01:55:54,194 Speaker 3: but when it comes to their passing game, it doesn't 2507 01:55:54,234 --> 01:55:56,834 Speaker 3: seem to It's hrky and jerky and then they get 2508 01:55:56,874 --> 01:55:58,674 Speaker 3: in third and long and Hurts runs for the first 2509 01:55:59,514 --> 01:56:00,874 Speaker 3: You know, it's weird. 2510 01:56:00,794 --> 01:56:01,474 Speaker 7: How we drow it up. 2511 01:56:01,834 --> 01:56:03,434 Speaker 6: Barkley might be the MVP of the league. 2512 01:56:03,554 --> 01:56:06,554 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. When's the last time a running. 2513 01:56:06,354 --> 01:56:09,234 Speaker 6: Back Adrian Pearson? Maybe? Yeah, yeah, when he had two 2514 01:56:09,274 --> 01:56:10,434 Speaker 6: thousand Alex. 2515 01:56:11,154 --> 01:56:14,234 Speaker 3: We're gonna have the uh, the debate about should the 2516 01:56:14,314 --> 01:56:16,434 Speaker 3: MVP be the best player on the best team. 2517 01:56:17,834 --> 01:56:19,714 Speaker 4: I mean we can debate anything, Fred, what would you 2518 01:56:19,794 --> 01:56:20,034 Speaker 4: like to do? 2519 01:56:20,314 --> 01:56:22,154 Speaker 3: I don't agree with side. I don't agree with that. 2520 01:56:22,274 --> 01:56:25,634 Speaker 4: Okay, then yes, I'm gonna go with the Eagles. 2521 01:56:25,794 --> 01:56:29,994 Speaker 3: Just a feeling, Just a feeling. Eight twenty Sunday Night. 2522 01:56:30,034 --> 01:56:31,154 Speaker 4: A good red zone game for US. 2523 01:56:31,234 --> 01:56:35,194 Speaker 3: Mike, Oh Baby Universe with Telexedos, the five and six, 2524 01:56:35,354 --> 01:56:37,994 Speaker 3: forty nine ers at the nine and two Bills. See 2525 01:56:38,034 --> 01:56:41,114 Speaker 3: the Bills keep coming up with these easy wins. 2526 01:56:41,394 --> 01:56:45,194 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, Buffalo by seven does not play the 2527 01:56:45,234 --> 01:56:46,434 Speaker 4: most pow. 2528 01:56:46,714 --> 01:56:48,754 Speaker 6: Doesn't seem like party is going to be in this. 2529 01:56:48,994 --> 01:56:49,554 Speaker 7: Yeah, all right. 2530 01:56:49,554 --> 01:56:52,074 Speaker 4: I appreciate that fifty fifty is a seven point spread, 2531 01:56:52,074 --> 01:56:54,274 Speaker 4: which would indicate that they don't think he's gonna play. 2532 01:56:54,434 --> 01:56:57,274 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why I think I think Buffalo is feeling 2533 01:56:57,314 --> 01:56:59,354 Speaker 7: pretty good about themselves, and I like them to roll. 2534 01:56:59,394 --> 01:57:02,074 Speaker 7: I'll take Buffalo. I'll lay the points, Buffalo, Buffalo. 2535 01:57:02,914 --> 01:57:05,354 Speaker 6: Yeah, what's happening in Buffalo is worrying me, as in 2536 01:57:05,514 --> 01:57:07,794 Speaker 6: like they might like win a super Bowl, which would 2537 01:57:07,834 --> 01:57:08,794 Speaker 6: be devastating. 2538 01:57:09,914 --> 01:57:11,674 Speaker 4: So I like Josh Allen. 2539 01:57:11,714 --> 01:57:13,594 Speaker 6: I love Josh Allen. That doesn't mean I want the 2540 01:57:13,674 --> 01:57:18,274 Speaker 6: team to succeed. I you don't want to be happy, Yeah, No, 2541 01:57:18,594 --> 01:57:19,834 Speaker 6: I just want him to throw bombs. 2542 01:57:19,874 --> 01:57:22,034 Speaker 3: The Bill's not winning a super Bowl as part of 2543 01:57:22,114 --> 01:57:24,994 Speaker 3: the NFL. You can't have that. You can't upset that. 2544 01:57:25,714 --> 01:57:28,634 Speaker 3: The Bills must remain super Bowl winless. 2545 01:57:29,034 --> 01:57:31,954 Speaker 6: They're a wagon. So I'm gonna take Buffalo, Buffalo. 2546 01:57:35,114 --> 01:57:37,914 Speaker 4: Definitely taking Buffalo to win the game. Seven's a lot 2547 01:57:37,994 --> 01:57:41,834 Speaker 4: of points, it is, Oh, just just they'll cover, you know, 2548 01:57:42,034 --> 01:57:43,634 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna take the points. 2549 01:57:43,914 --> 01:57:46,594 Speaker 7: Bills keep getting these people saying Deebo looks fat. 2550 01:57:46,954 --> 01:57:51,634 Speaker 3: Cropping out the windows. What windows should be shut? All right, Bills, 2551 01:57:51,674 --> 01:57:52,434 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Bills. 2552 01:57:52,434 --> 01:57:54,954 Speaker 4: Boats really untoward that you just won't admit that you're wrong. 2553 01:57:56,234 --> 01:58:02,394 Speaker 3: Monday Night, eight fifteen, ESPN ESPN Deportes three and eight 2554 01:58:02,514 --> 01:58:09,034 Speaker 3: Browns against the home seven and five Broncos. You know, 2555 01:58:09,154 --> 01:58:11,274 Speaker 3: if it's a night game, the Broncos are playing at home, 2556 01:58:11,754 --> 01:58:14,874 Speaker 3: the networks love them. Or they like to go show 2557 01:58:14,954 --> 01:58:19,834 Speaker 3: the mountains and talk about the high altitude. Go to 2558 01:58:20,034 --> 01:58:22,794 Speaker 3: the night before and have a steak. The network's love 2559 01:58:23,034 --> 01:58:26,034 Speaker 3: the sauces on that steak are just like need a point, right, 2560 01:58:26,114 --> 01:58:29,474 Speaker 3: they won't be eating turkey. They love primetime games in Denver. 2561 01:58:29,714 --> 01:58:30,394 Speaker 3: They just love it. 2562 01:58:30,594 --> 01:58:31,794 Speaker 4: Denver by five and a half. 2563 01:58:32,754 --> 01:58:36,474 Speaker 3: They could be one in fifteen, Like, uh, prime time, 2564 01:58:36,554 --> 01:58:37,194 Speaker 3: let's go to Denver. 2565 01:58:37,874 --> 01:58:40,834 Speaker 7: You like that Bonicks psycho eyes yelling at I forget 2566 01:58:40,874 --> 01:58:41,954 Speaker 7: who the other defender was. 2567 01:58:41,954 --> 01:58:44,754 Speaker 4: But seen that yet I'm not afraid of anything, like 2568 01:58:44,834 --> 01:58:49,554 Speaker 4: he's crazy. I didn't give it like the rigs. That's perfect, Paul. 2569 01:58:49,634 --> 01:58:50,594 Speaker 4: That's exactly what it was. 2570 01:58:50,634 --> 01:58:52,554 Speaker 7: When you know he is the whole thing and then 2571 01:58:52,554 --> 01:58:55,474 Speaker 7: all of sudden he's got two guys. It was like that, 2572 01:58:56,314 --> 01:58:57,754 Speaker 7: I'm gonna take Denver at home. 2573 01:58:57,834 --> 01:58:59,794 Speaker 4: Of course, what's spread five and a half. 2574 01:59:00,234 --> 01:59:02,594 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'll lay those Even though I love Jameis Winston, 2575 01:59:03,714 --> 01:59:04,834 Speaker 7: it's Denver could. 2576 01:59:06,914 --> 01:59:09,314 Speaker 3: Part of December eating that's a part of the alert. 2577 01:59:09,834 --> 01:59:11,434 Speaker 3: You know, you get the Mountains Jams. 2578 01:59:11,474 --> 01:59:14,194 Speaker 7: Winston always delivers though, Like it's just I love that guy. 2579 01:59:14,274 --> 01:59:16,114 Speaker 7: He's just clat machines so funny. 2580 01:59:16,194 --> 01:59:17,274 Speaker 3: I actually hate. 2581 01:59:17,554 --> 01:59:21,554 Speaker 4: Everything about it, not gonna, I hate everything. 2582 01:59:22,074 --> 01:59:24,714 Speaker 6: It's like, can we all calm down? Not serious about 2583 01:59:24,714 --> 01:59:25,634 Speaker 6: football exactly. 2584 01:59:26,314 --> 01:59:29,354 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think Cleveland comes off their high. Denver Denver. 2585 01:59:32,634 --> 01:59:35,994 Speaker 6: I'm not sold on Denver yet as a true true 2586 01:59:36,074 --> 01:59:38,754 Speaker 6: player in this thing, but I am going to take 2587 01:59:38,754 --> 01:59:41,314 Speaker 6: them in this game bothways. Yes, I am less sold 2588 01:59:41,354 --> 01:59:42,274 Speaker 6: on Jameis Winston. 2589 01:59:42,554 --> 01:59:44,954 Speaker 4: I would agree, but I do think the Broncos are 2590 01:59:44,994 --> 01:59:48,394 Speaker 4: going to make the playoffs and I think they're going 2591 01:59:48,474 --> 01:59:50,194 Speaker 4: to win this game. I'll take Denver both ways. 2592 01:59:50,234 --> 01:59:53,034 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Browns won their Super Bowl last week. Broncos 2593 01:59:53,074 --> 01:59:56,994 Speaker 3: both ways at home. All Right, one o'clock we go 2594 01:59:57,154 --> 02:00:01,914 Speaker 3: back to the Patriots hosting the five and seven Colts. 2595 02:00:02,074 --> 02:00:06,754 Speaker 3: The Patriots stand at three and nine, cloak. 2596 02:00:06,834 --> 02:00:08,474 Speaker 4: The Clots by two and a half. 2597 02:00:09,474 --> 02:00:10,914 Speaker 6: Underdogs to the Colts at home. 2598 02:00:11,234 --> 02:00:13,194 Speaker 7: They are I know, I call the disrespectful. On our 2599 02:00:13,234 --> 02:00:16,354 Speaker 7: TV show, Pulse said, no, it's about what they deserve. 2600 02:00:16,474 --> 02:00:19,794 Speaker 7: Maybe Pulse right, you know, this is probably it for 2601 02:00:19,874 --> 02:00:21,514 Speaker 7: me picking the Patriots this season. So I am going 2602 02:00:21,554 --> 02:00:23,434 Speaker 7: to go with the Pats. I just I want to 2603 02:00:23,434 --> 02:00:26,034 Speaker 7: see some fight. They talked about taking a step back today. 2604 02:00:26,834 --> 02:00:28,594 Speaker 7: Two weeks ago they talked about that, tried to take 2605 02:00:28,594 --> 02:00:30,994 Speaker 7: a step forward. I think they can put it together. 2606 02:00:31,114 --> 02:00:32,914 Speaker 7: But I think everybody's gonna have to come to play. 2607 02:00:32,914 --> 02:00:35,474 Speaker 7: They're gonna have to lock in. It will not be easy. 2608 02:00:36,314 --> 02:00:39,434 Speaker 7: I'm going to say, Patriots twenty two, nineteen. 2609 02:00:41,754 --> 02:00:45,034 Speaker 9: Colts twenty one, Patriots twenty I can see I was 2610 02:00:45,114 --> 02:00:46,474 Speaker 9: just getting our hearts broken on. 2611 02:00:46,514 --> 02:00:50,154 Speaker 4: The last Colts twenty one Colts in one. 2612 02:00:50,954 --> 02:00:52,554 Speaker 9: They're going to break my heart on the last strive. 2613 02:00:54,714 --> 02:00:56,434 Speaker 6: I would say, you know, this game, to me is 2614 02:00:56,474 --> 02:01:00,074 Speaker 6: a really big game for the coaching staff. I think defensively, 2615 02:01:00,554 --> 02:01:03,714 Speaker 6: this is all about qb run and Anthony Richardson and 2616 02:01:04,154 --> 02:01:06,914 Speaker 6: uh making him a passer first and trying to get 2617 02:01:06,954 --> 02:01:08,554 Speaker 6: him in the drop back game. If you can do that, 2618 02:01:08,674 --> 02:01:11,474 Speaker 6: I'd like your chances. But that's a lot of coaching, 2619 02:01:11,554 --> 02:01:14,994 Speaker 6: you know, assignments and being as Simon sound and understanding 2620 02:01:15,034 --> 02:01:18,394 Speaker 6: their option package and all that. And then offensively, they 2621 02:01:18,394 --> 02:01:20,554 Speaker 6: are a zone defense. The Colts are going to play zone. 2622 02:01:20,674 --> 02:01:23,434 Speaker 6: That's what Gus Bradley does. So that scheme like you 2623 02:01:23,514 --> 02:01:25,794 Speaker 6: got to get guys open and zone coverage. You gotta 2624 02:01:25,914 --> 02:01:28,594 Speaker 6: flood zones and figure out ways to do that. So 2625 02:01:29,314 --> 02:01:32,154 Speaker 6: they don't have necessarily a giant talent gap in this game. 2626 02:01:32,234 --> 02:01:34,234 Speaker 6: So I think coaching is going to be a big 2627 02:01:34,354 --> 02:01:37,114 Speaker 6: one here, and I'm going to take the Patriots. I 2628 02:01:37,154 --> 02:01:39,834 Speaker 6: think they get it done. I'm going to say twenty 2629 02:01:39,954 --> 02:01:41,754 Speaker 6: to seventeen New England. 2630 02:01:42,914 --> 02:01:45,754 Speaker 4: Yeah. I agree again with my boy Evan with a 2631 02:01:45,794 --> 02:01:47,234 Speaker 4: lot of the stuff he said. I would put a 2632 02:01:47,274 --> 02:01:49,594 Speaker 4: little bit more of the emphasis on Jonathan Taylor. I 2633 02:01:49,674 --> 02:01:52,554 Speaker 4: think they need to stop him to get richardson in 2634 02:01:52,674 --> 02:01:55,314 Speaker 4: the situations that he's talking about. I think they're able 2635 02:01:55,354 --> 02:01:58,114 Speaker 4: to do that well enough, not like that game in 2636 02:01:58,314 --> 02:02:01,274 Speaker 4: Indy that sort of ended the twenty twenty one season 2637 02:02:01,794 --> 02:02:03,794 Speaker 4: when they couldn't stop Jonathan Taylor sixty. 2638 02:02:03,874 --> 02:02:05,274 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2639 02:02:05,674 --> 02:02:08,434 Speaker 4: So I'm going to take the Patriots twenty four to twenty. 2640 02:02:09,434 --> 02:02:14,554 Speaker 3: Paul. Years from now, people will say, where were you 2641 02:02:15,034 --> 02:02:16,794 Speaker 3: when Drake May had his breakout game. 2642 02:02:18,074 --> 02:02:20,234 Speaker 4: I was in the press box when they lost to 2643 02:02:20,274 --> 02:02:20,954 Speaker 4: the Rams twenty eight. 2644 02:02:21,194 --> 02:02:23,514 Speaker 3: Answer will be, you were in the press box at 2645 02:02:23,554 --> 02:02:28,514 Speaker 3: jill Let's Stadium. Yes, sure, it's thirty one close twenty 2646 02:02:28,594 --> 02:02:30,114 Speaker 3: one damn it. 2647 02:02:30,834 --> 02:02:33,874 Speaker 6: It's there to be had. Like this is predictable defense. 2648 02:02:33,594 --> 02:02:37,514 Speaker 3: Turn over free for Drake. That's pretty so here we go, 2649 02:02:37,914 --> 02:02:41,034 Speaker 3: Here we go, we go, Here we go, we go. 2650 02:02:41,314 --> 02:02:43,274 Speaker 6: All right, let me know reread it. 2651 02:02:43,674 --> 02:02:46,234 Speaker 3: That's going to be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. 2652 02:02:46,554 --> 02:02:50,794 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving tomorrow. 2653 02:02:51,394 --> 02:02:54,314 Speaker 3: We're done with shows, right, all right, everybody go home. 2654 02:02:54,474 --> 02:02:56,594 Speaker 3: We'll see you next Tuesday. 2655 02:02:58,154 --> 02:02:58,474 Speaker 4: Sunday. 2656 02:03:03,314 --> 02:03:07,114 Speaker 2: Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, Google Play, 2657 02:03:07,194 --> 02:03:10,234 Speaker 2: and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, Please rate 2658 02:03:10,314 --> 02:03:13,434 Speaker 2: and review us. 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Okay, we do this. 2669 02:03:43,794 --> 02:03:45,234 Speaker 3: I'm into the tangible numbers. 2670 02:03:45,234 --> 02:03:46,314 Speaker 4: There's there's time here. 2671 02:03:46,594 --> 02:03:46,914 Speaker 6: Just give me. 2672 02:03:47,154 --> 02:03:49,554 Speaker 3: There's the advantage to it. 2673 02:03:49,674 --> 02:03:51,954 Speaker 6: I'm surprised you know an old man over here. I 2674 02:03:52,034 --> 02:03:54,034 Speaker 6: thought maybe i'd have to show you, like a tutorial 2675 02:03:54,154 --> 02:03:54,554 Speaker 6: or something. 2676 02:03:54,714 --> 02:03:55,474 Speaker 4: How am I old man? 2677 02:03:55,714 --> 02:03:58,274 Speaker 1: Search for Patriots catch twenty two anywhere you get your 2678 02:03:58,354 --> 02:03:58,874 Speaker 1: podcasts