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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're still

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Speaker 1: being faithful to our resolutions. Right right, It's been a day, y'all,

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Speaker 1: Come on, stick with it. It's Thursday, January tewod and

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Speaker 1: today we're continuing our Best of twenty twenty four series

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Speaker 1: by revisiting the convo I had with soccer stars and

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Speaker 1: media moguls Sam Ewis and Becky sowerbrun. I caught up

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Speaker 1: with them back in August ahead of the gold medal

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Speaker 1: final between the US and Brazil. To set the stage,

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Speaker 1: the US had just defeated Germany in extra time in

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Speaker 1: the semifinals, following an extra time win against Japan in

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Speaker 1: the quarters and a three to zero run through group play.

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Speaker 1: It was a different time. The Triple Espresso was not

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Speaker 1: yet known as the Triple Espresso, Emma Hayes was still

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Speaker 1: considered a new coach, and Becky hadn't yet announced that

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Speaker 1: she was hanging them up. Too soon, Too soon anyway,

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Speaker 1: That conversation with Sam and Becky is coming up right

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Speaker 1: after this. She's a former national soccer player, World Cup winner,

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Speaker 1: Olympic bronze medalist, three time NWSL champion and NCAA champion.

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Speaker 1: Her career was cut short by injury, but she was

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Speaker 1: one of the best midfielders in the world and I

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Speaker 1: think she didn't get enough credit for being the heart

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Speaker 1: and center of the US team's greatness when she was

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Speaker 1: on the national team. She's now the host of the

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Speaker 1: Fantastic The Women's Game podcast, part of the Men in

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Speaker 1: Blazers network consisting of Good Vibes FC, with co host

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Speaker 1: Lynn Williams and Becky souerbrun Friendly's where she interviews other

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Speaker 1: soccer stars and special going for Gold episodes during these Olympics.

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Speaker 1: The Tower of Power, Mother of Finn, number one fan

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Speaker 1: of Rudy's Pizza in Manchester, England. It's Sammy Muiz.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what a very accurate intro. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 1: Welcome with her. A two time World Cup winner and

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Speaker 1: a one time World Cup runner up, an Olympic gold

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Speaker 1: medalist and bronze medalist, co captain of the US women's

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Speaker 1: national team from twenty sixteen to eighteen, and the captain

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Speaker 1: of the team from twenty one to twenty three. Arguably

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Speaker 1: the greatest center back of all time, her two hundred

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Speaker 1: US she's a center back for the Portland Thwart's a

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Speaker 1: of the Year. Book lover caat mother despiser of fish

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Speaker 1: and chips. It's Becky Sebron.

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Speaker 3: What an introduction. Thanks for having us.

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Speaker 1: You do like the chips part, just not the fish.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, that yeah, that's correct.

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Speaker 1: Just so no one yells at you for not liking chips. Okay,

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Speaker 1: welcome ladies. I'm so excited to have you, and as

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Speaker 1: a nod to your show, we'll start the way that

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Speaker 1: good vibes does. So we are the self anointed post

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Speaker 1: Gold Medal match meal of women's soccer. I'm a mal

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Speaker 1: Naughties deep dish pizza with Pepper's onions, tomatoes and Halopaeno's sam.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm a Poopsi's cheese pizza. Poopsies is

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Speaker 2: like kind of like a dive bar near where I'm from.

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Speaker 2: Best pizza, craziest.

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Speaker 1: Name, amazing, Becky.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm probably a bacon, a double bacon cheeseburger, some

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Speaker 1: But that's someone who knows she runs like ten miles

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Speaker 1: a game. I love that. If you didn't get that

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Speaker 1: good And I don't want to blow smoke up your ass, Sam,

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Speaker 1: but I'm telling you that as I was creating this show,

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Speaker 1: And I loved the energy of yours and how much

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Speaker 1: that into this show. So you're already teaching me things

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Speaker 1: and you just you just started in this whole media game.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to that, but we have to

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Speaker 1: start with a speed round, lightning fast answer series of questions.

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Speaker 1: Number one, Sam, have you ever asked anyone for an autograph? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I remember going to see the national team play when

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Speaker 2: get people's autograph. I got Cindy Parlow's autograph and I

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 4: Becky, Oh, I'm exactly like Sammy. I have a tank

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Speaker 4: top that actually assigned by most of the nineteen nine

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Speaker 1: Wow, incredible epic. Yeah, Sam, can you keep a plant alive?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Actually I can. I currently have several plants alive,

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Speaker 1: And finally, Becky, what's the color or design of your

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Speaker 1: go to warn It to Death favorite T shirt? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I love those and when you finally lose them, it's

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Speaker 1: then you finally have to say goodbye. Sam. Let's get

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Speaker 1: back to the podcast, because I've been listening and thinking

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Speaker 1: You're doing previews, you're doing live postgame, you're doing interviews

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Speaker 2: It's been like kind of a whirlwind. I think your

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Speaker 2: I really have to remind myself, like I can't be

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Speaker 1: You're a natural. You're it's such a good listen, Becky,

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Speaker 1: You're still kicking ass in the NWSL and hosting the

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Speaker 4: It's you know, obviously I gave it a go and

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Speaker 4: it's been great because I've leaned on other players like

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Speaker 4: But then when you aren't there, you just really do

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Speaker 4: really great. And I so quickly flipped to being a fangirl.

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Speaker 4: It was kind of alarming. It happened in the twenty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So is it a goal of yours to

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Speaker 4: I think that chapter of my career is over, and

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Speaker 4: so I think I've also been working through all those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so smart too. So many athletes talk

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this team, because heading into the tournament,

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Speaker 1: as sort of a sacrifice for a longer term goal

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Speaker 1: her for later. How surprising has this run, Ben Sam,

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Speaker 1: If you're actually being honest about your expectations going in.

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Speaker 2: Like I keep referring to how they're making tiktoks together

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the talent has always been there. It

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Speaker 1: and it feels like we're sort of doing that again.

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Speaker 1: There's also some real standouts. We have the star forwards

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Speaker 1: but also defensively, Emma has said that Naomi Germa is

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Speaker 1: even sit and process what we're seeing from Naomi and

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Speaker 4: I think when I think of Nay I think of

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Speaker 4: just like dominance, Like watching that Germany semi final, the

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Speaker 4: things that she was able to do. Samity I talked

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Speaker 4: about it like she had ninety five percent passing accuracy

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Speaker 1: feel like you understand when they're watching and when they're cheering,

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Speaker 1: that they aren't being forgotten or left behind? You know, yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 2: I think in thinking about this, I feel like one

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Speaker 2: really important. So I think to Becky's point, the players

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Speaker 2: I trust that in time that platform will continue to

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Speaker 1: Well said, as always, no wonder you guys have your

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Speaker 1: podcast while also being soccer geniuses. We have to take

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Speaker 1: another quick break. The conclusion of my conversation with Sam

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Speaker 1: and Becky is coming up. Stick around slices. Important question

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Speaker 1: that needs answering. How did the US women's national soccer

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Speaker 1: team get to keep the us w NT label? What

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Speaker 1: about all the other national teams? There's no s in there.

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Speaker 1: You just stole the whole us WNT thing from every

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Speaker 1: other team that could be the us WNT polo or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're kind of jerks like that.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I was gonna say, what's the

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Speaker 2: expression fighters?

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Speaker 1: Keepers?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I have no ideas keepers. All right, we're gonna set

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Speaker 1: We've got we've got an Olympic expert on our team,

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Speaker 1: send her to find out when you guys stole that

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Speaker 1: or I guess like pissed on it and decided it's our.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna look up. We're gonna look that up and

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Speaker 1: figure it out. Okay, one last thing, and we got

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Speaker 1: to keep it quick. Gosh, we're doing a decent job

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Speaker 1: so far. I go over every time because I just

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Speaker 1: love talking to people like you. But it's time for

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Speaker 1: fight me. You have to. You're at a barbecue, you're

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Speaker 1: in a big backyard and someone suggests a soccer game,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be four on fours, so you get three

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Speaker 1: teammates to play with. You can pick any women's soccer

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Speaker 1: time to think. You just have to go with your gut, Sam,

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Speaker 1: who are your three teammates?

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Speaker 2: I'm just going rosa on it. Lynn. You gave me

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Speaker 2: no time to think.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty incredible group and it'd be fun to

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Speaker 2: hang out with them. Met a barbecue after.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Becky, who you got?

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Speaker 4: I'm going a listen there. I'm going Mia Ham and

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Speaker 4: Carlo overback.

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Speaker 1: Wo oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Becky, no shade that I didn't pick you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's total shade. I'm taking real offense to it

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Speaker 3: over here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she didn't pick you either, but she

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Speaker 1: did have time to reflect.

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Speaker 2: I know she also went after so maybe that was

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Speaker 1: My pick would just be two of each of you.

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Speaker 1: I would be the.

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Speaker 3: Coach answering, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm always gonna pick you. Everybody. Listen to the

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Speaker 1: women's game, Listen to good vibes, Listen to friendlies, look,

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Speaker 1: listen to going for Gold. I can't recommend it enough.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I know you guys are so

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Speaker 1: busy recording literally every reaction. I'm surprised you don't have

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Speaker 1: like a post practice reaction. So I'm so appreciative of

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Speaker 1: your time and keep pumping out the pods.

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Speaker 2: Don't give us any ideas maybe we should start a

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Speaker 2: post practice reaction.

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Speaker 1: Becky, So can y'all believe it took so long for

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Speaker 1: the Triple Espresso to become known as the Triple Espresso.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't until August eighth, two days before the gold

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Speaker 1: medal final, that Mal, Sophie and Trinity proposed the name

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Speaker 1: during an appearance on the Today Show Wild. We hope

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Speaker 1: that you enjoyed that rewind with Becky and Sam. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back tomorrow to conclude our best of twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four series with my conversation with Rose evelyth see you then.

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