1 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got ourselves a trade. What's up, everybody. 2 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday night, just after penke on Eastern the no 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Dunk's boys in the yard because Trey Young has been 4 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: traded to the Washington Wizards. I'm J Skeets. That's Test now, 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: lest that's Trey Kirby. Let's get a little Southern lawyer 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: here on this one, especially because you predicted this trade. TK, 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: call me Ken Nugent. 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 2: We got ourselves the trade. 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Wow, what an Atlanta reference. 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: That's a real Southern lawyer. 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Yes, we have that trade, and it's what we expected 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Tests except for one important part. No picks Trey Young 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: to the Wizards for CJ. McCollum and Corey Espert. And 14 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: what we know right now again this is breaking news. 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Happened like thirty minutes ago. It doesn't seem like there's 16 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: a pick involved going either way, either to the Washington 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: Wizards or to Atlanta or not even taking second round 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 1: picks here. 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Tessk. 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: We're pickless tonight. It is surprising because this is a 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 3: twenty seven year old four time All Star. He's still 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: in his prime, so it's surprising that a pick doesn't 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 3: come back. But at the same time, Like we talked 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: about on the show, Mark Stein, who's dialed in. He 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: was the first national guy to report that the Wizards 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: were far and ahead the team that Trey Young wanted 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: to go to. He didn't know if a pick needed 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: to be attached to Trey or a pick was coming 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: back for Trey. So we shouldn't be that surprised that 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: there's no picks. But still, this is a skimpy package. 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: And no disrespect to CJ mccollo, but he's thirty four, 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: he's towards the end of his career. Corey Kispert, I 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: love his headband, but still, I mean, look where we 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: are here for the Atlanta Hawks and Trey I got 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: twenty seven years old. Well, we all knew it was coming, 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: and Trade called it last week. And then when you 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: see CJ McCollum and Corey Kispert yank from the lineup tonight, 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: Hey guys, we can't have you play tonight. Now if 39 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: you get ready to get hurt, I think the Hawks 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: would still do it, but yeah, just don't play because 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: this just seems like it's about money, right, I mean, 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: it seems like there's another deal coming, So it feels 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: maybe a little less skimpy if you know what, trade 44 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: is coming real quick, as Shams is reporting that this 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: makes it a flexible situation for the Hawks that Dallas 46 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: Mavericks star Anthony Davis as a prime in season trade 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: target for the next several months. What does that mean 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: they're getting him in the off season or is this 49 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: turning into poor Zingis and either Resache or a Kong 50 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: Wu That could work literally those two, that pair of 51 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: guys for Anthony Davis. I don't know how far we 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: want to go right now with that, but here we are. 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: It is a little surprising at the same time. 54 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: Trey, what do you think. 55 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: I can't believe I've heard the word skimpy and paltry today, 56 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: but I've heard both of those old timey words used 57 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: to describe this package. This is nothing. Trey Young is 58 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: a four time All Star, the best player of the 59 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: Hawks have had in a decade, and he's getting traded 60 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: for an expiring contract and a guy who's better known 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: for having a center part, a much dash and a 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: tie on the sidelines. Corey Kisper never plays man. Nobody's 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: ever seen this guy. CJ McCollum. He's not a multi 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: time All Star. He's a multi time almost All Star, 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: and Trey Young is the best player the Hawks have 66 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: had in quite some time. He's won them playoff series, 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: he took him to the Conference finals. He might have 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: his jersey retired sometime so to get back a guy 69 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: in CJ McCollum that might be gone next season, Corey Kisper, 70 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: who's kind of superfluous with Luke Canard around. Come on, 71 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: this is disappointing. There was during the day that there 72 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: was negotiations back and forth on who was going to 73 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: be adding draft capital. Is it the Wizards because you 74 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: know they are getting Trey Young, a multi time All Star, 75 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: Or is it the Hawks because they have to pay 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: it get off his contract eventually. They must have just 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: gotten tired of negotiating about it and said, let's just 78 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: go player for player here. We're going Chicago Bulls mode. 79 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: Make it simple. And honestly, this is the worst package 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: than like Zach Lavine got last year when the Bulls 81 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: were in a very same situation. So I think this 82 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: just goes the show. How sour the relationship was, how 83 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: much Trey wanted to be out in Atlanta, how the 84 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: Wizards were likely his only suitor out there, just the 85 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: way we broke things down on the podcast earlier today. 86 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 2: None of the other packages made a lot of sense 87 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: for both teams. This one kind of did, and it 88 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: happened quickly. 89 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, we said this morning on No Dunks and if 90 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: you're joining us for the first time here on YouTube, 91 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: hit the like button subscribe podcast listeners. I don't know 92 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: when you're listening to this, probably before live show tomorrow 93 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: morning at ten, but we said this morning, hey, look, 94 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: the Hawks are not going to be getting any real 95 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: value here. It's like this is a salary cap dump 96 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: before Trey potentially picks up his forty nine million dollars. 97 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: Somebody, somebody sent us nine dollars and ninety nine cents 98 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: here on YouTube. That's more than the Hawks got for 99 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: Trey Young. 100 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: Oh my, that's how it feels. 101 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: I know. It's good, and we we talked about literally 102 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: this could be the package combined with the OKC pick 103 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: that the Wizards had the rights to, that would be 104 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: the best part coming back. As good as C. J. 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: McCollum is, he can drop thirty, you can drop forty. Still, 106 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: it just feels like the Trey Young relationship was done. 107 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: But they also just wanted him to get the heck 108 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: out of there, and he wanted to be the heck 109 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: out of there as well, because this time's up. Yeah, tough, 110 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: tough time. I guess you could sense it when he 111 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: got when he took the floor to every shoot around 112 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: the last couple of games. Things weren't gonna last very long. 113 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: But to see this as a return, if you're a 114 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: Hawks fan, you gotta be thinking, well, you gotta be 115 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: hopeful that, yes, maybe we're better without Trey Young, but 116 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: maybe we have another move coming down that works here. Yeah, 117 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: it's a big maybe. I brought up the the Anthony 118 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: Davis possibility. The scary part is Anthony Davis wants an 119 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: extension this summer, real bad, and he didn't, you know, 120 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: according to reports, he didn't see it happening with the 121 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks. He wanted to see it with another team, 122 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: and it could be with the Atlanta Hawks if they 123 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: are willing and the MAVs are willing to take. You know, 124 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: as I look at it, porzingis plus one of Reese 125 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: or Congo. I don't know which one you guys think 126 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: is the right package for Anthony Davis, but it seems 127 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: like there'd be a handshake agreement that, Okay, we extend 128 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: you if you're from the Hawks side. This is we 129 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: were just coming off a season where they didn't extend 130 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: Trey Young. Would they be willing to extend Anthony Davis. 131 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: That's a huge question, but it really feels like a 132 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: move if they're not going to do anything beyond this 133 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: Tray Young trade. 134 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: I just can't believe that a second round pick wasn't 135 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: even involved. Forget that the first round pick. The Wizards have, 136 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: I think like multiple second round picks, like I believe 137 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: they have four in the twenty sixth draft. Like it's 138 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: like a little shocking that one, two, whatever's not thrown 139 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, let alone the worst of that one pick, 140 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: which would likely be the thunder pick, so that would 141 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: be the end of the first round. It's amazing and 142 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: good on the Wizards, like for digging in their heels 143 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: looking around, going what else are you getting for them? 144 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: You're not getting anything you're getting off of him. CJ. 145 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: McCollum actually is still solid at his age. I don't 146 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: think he's part of your long term plans, but he's 147 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: better than what Trey Young's given you right now. So 148 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: they just said, we're not giving you any picks. Do 149 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: you want to do it or not? And maybe you're 150 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: right task Maybe the timing of this happening a month 151 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: basically before the deadline makes it more likely that the 152 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: Hawks have something else down the line, tk be it 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis or be in another move here to try 154 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: and upgrade the roster. 155 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: Like we talked about this morning, it was this trade 156 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: was one way to do it and keep your flexibility. 157 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: A three way trade with the Mavericks involved would be 158 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: a way to get Anthony Davis. I would prefer the flexibility. 159 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense to me to put Anthony Davis 160 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: with a very very young team that the Hawks have 161 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 2: now yet with Jalen Johnson being their leader. Like Porzingis 162 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: is around, but he's not really a long term piece. 163 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: I think a Congo is kind of entrenched more as 164 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: the big long term alongside Dyson, Daniels, Jalen and then 165 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: we'll see what they do. But there's definitely an opportunity 166 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: now to make a move. They have some assets that 167 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: they can put into trades if they wanted. They got 168 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: some like lego piece contracts that can add up to 169 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: a bigger number if they wanted to. It's not a 170 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: move I would personally make, but it's definitely a possibility 171 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: that it could happen here. But man, when we thought 172 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: the Thunder or the Thunder pick was gonna be involved 173 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: with this, that seemed like hardly anything. Yeah, so I 174 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: think great stuff from the Wizards. They basically went from 175 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: Beale to Chris Paul to Jordan Poole to c. J. 176 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: McCollum to Tray Young. Never gave up a single pick. Unbelievable. 177 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah wow, Yeah, that's a great way to put it. 178 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: And now we'll see if Trey or how much Trey 179 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: plays this season. Task like, could we have a brandon 180 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Ingram situations on our hands here when he went to 181 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: the Raptors and probably could a play. They don't really 182 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: need them to play, don't want them to play, especially 183 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: because the Wizards have this top eight protected pick. You know, 184 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: if they suddenly rip off a lot of wins, they 185 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: could lose that to the Knicks. 186 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 187 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, there's a lot of season left. I 188 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: think we see Trey Young, and do you think it's 189 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: likely that he comes to a deal with Washington as well? 190 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: Well ours the Wizards go. I mean they're winning games 191 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: pre tray. They literally won five of their last seven 192 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: games before tonight before saying c J, Hey we're trading you. 193 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: Come have a seat. Corey Kispert. You see all those headlines. 194 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: You're a rotation player that may be traded. You got 195 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: to sit too. I do think Trey is he is, 196 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 3: he's he's biting, he's chomping at the bit. He wants 197 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: to play, and I think they're gonna play him. I 198 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: think he has to. Now will he be extended? I 199 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: think at this point they will see what happens these 200 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: next few months. But I mean on the floor, they 201 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: need a guy who can run the team. He's shown 202 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: that he is willing to pass the ball like for 203 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: a very long time. Him and Jalen Johnson did click 204 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: when they were playing together, especially last year because this 205 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: year he's you know, hardly played, but they were basically 206 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: a one to two combo, and you know they were 207 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: top four and passes per game for a while before 208 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: Jalen Johnson got hurt, literally two of the top four players. Now, 209 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: it did just run through those two guys a little 210 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: too much. But I don't think it's going to take 211 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: away too much from the supporting guys in Trey Johnson 212 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: and Keishan George as we talked about it on today's show. 213 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: And he'll make it a great a great fit for 214 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: Alex R. So I do think he's gonna play, and 215 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: I think they'll wait several months. They'll wait till the 216 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: offseason before they talk extension. But even if this is 217 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: a one and a half year little rental, because he 218 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: has a player option for next season. 219 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: You're still doing good. 220 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: It's good for the guys. Oh yeah, you got to go. 221 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: They literally did not give up much at all in 222 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: this trade. 223 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely worth the risk for the Wizards to see 224 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: what they can do with Trey Young. And the timing 225 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: of the trade. You know, we're not even at the 226 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: forty one game mark, right, It lends yourself to think that, yeah, 227 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: Trey will play at least a little bit, you know, 228 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: show Washington what he can do, maybe win people back 229 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: from like a public relations standpoint a little bit, put 230 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: some butts in the seats, all the things that the 231 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: Wizards are hoping they're getting with a box office name 232 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 2: like Trey Young. I think he'll play a little bit 233 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: but they're kind of right on the edge. This little 234 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: streak here five games, five wins and seven games is 235 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: making their pick a little bit more in danger. They 236 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: got a top eight protected pick going out right now. 237 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: They're fifth and lottery odds and things are pretty tight 238 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: in like the five to ten range, so a few 239 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: too many wins could put them in danger. But maybe 240 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: maybe that just leads to them hitting the lottery, you know, 241 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: like you're pleasing the lottery gods by making a win 242 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: now move, by making an accelerant move, so perhaps the 243 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: gods will bless you then with a top pick. 244 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts of earlier today was Shaan's 245 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: reporting that Trey Young and his representatives wanted to go 246 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: to Washington. They wanted to go to the nation's capital. 247 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: That was a preferred destination. And when that started leaking 248 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: or we had that report, it was like, it's just 249 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: a matter of time until Tree Young is now going 250 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: to Washington. They're just figuring out are there any picks 251 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: involved or not, because come on, like, no, it's not no, 252 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: it's not I mean, no offense to Wizards fans, But 253 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: he was not thinking or saying that prior months prior 254 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: this was a look around, does anybody want to dance 255 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: with me? And it's like the only person at the 256 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: dance here that will actually get on the dance floor 257 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: with me. I guess that's my preferred destination. That's your 258 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: only destination. 259 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: So it's better to be dancing than sitting on the wall, right. 260 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: You're fair, Yes it is. It was pretty funny when 261 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: that report came out. I thought, it's like, okay, we're 262 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: just waiting. We were like, we're like texting with each other, 263 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: like are we doing? Is this coming down tonight? Is 264 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: this going to be like before the show tomorrow morning? 265 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: Is gonna happen during the show? Right after? I mean 266 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: it was gonna happen in twenty four hours. 267 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: I felt like yeah. And we got the word from 268 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: our friend who Michael Scotta, who is supposed to be 269 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: on tomorrow's show. Senior NBA insider for Hoopshype said, I 270 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: don't know if I'm gonna be able to be on 271 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: your show because this trade looks like it's happening right, 272 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: And I don't know if he's going to be coming 273 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: on now that trade has happened, but it seemed super 274 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: legitimate and when guys are sitting for the Washington Wizards 275 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: and the whole trade young scenario. Again. I talk about 276 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: him in shoot a rounds, like he's out there, he's 277 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: shooting around, and then he doesn't play it in two 278 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: straight games, the Toronto game and now this this game tonight. 279 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: This is it's just odd because he's he is, He's 280 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: got so many accolades for a guy to go literally 281 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: for somebody who hasn't made an All Star game, rotational player, Yeah, exactly, 282 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: but he's in his prime. But that's the interesting thing. 283 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: I'm starting to buy in some of this ad talk 284 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: from Schams because you know, if the national media knows 285 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: what they're talking about, because Mark Stein sure did when 286 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: he said he's going to the Washington Wizards, and I 287 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: don't know if a pick is going with or with 288 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: him or without him or for him essentially, and there 289 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: was no picks involved, so that worked out pretty well. 290 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: I mean, there was no juicy pick there. And now 291 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: Seam's basically saying they've got this freedom here, they've got 292 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: the flexibility, and they're going to be working on an 293 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis trade for months, like specifically Anthony Davis as 294 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: a target. I'm starting to buy in because if you 295 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: want to trade for Anthony Davis, I imagine you want 296 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: the most the youngest legs out of him as possible, 297 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: So you do it now as opposed to the off season. 298 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what it feels like to me if 299 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: they're trading for him. But the scary part is the 300 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: extension part. I get that. I get that, But you know, 301 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: maybe that second year that he has a player option 302 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: for he's signed through this year, the following next year, 303 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: and then the following year is a player option, maybe 304 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: that becomes part of the extension. If we're already talking extensions. 305 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: I mean, that sounds crazy to be trading for a 306 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: guy right here, right now and extending him. But you know, 307 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: you look at it this way. What if it's for 308 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: Porzingis primarily who's already an expiring contract and literally doesn't 309 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: play every game either, So you can start to spin 310 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: it that way for Hawks fans, you know, minus the 311 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: extension part. If you're just talking porzingis for ad primarily, 312 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: it does have to it does have to be another part, 313 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: and again going through every every trade machine. 314 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: Probably has to be. If we're being honest, we have 315 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: a side of things. 316 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's either Resache or cong Wu financially, and you 317 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: know from the maps size, you probably want the young player, 318 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: the second year player. But I think Hawks fans would 319 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: be happier to see Coong Wu go rather than the 320 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: up side of Zachary Resache. 321 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: They need to do something here still because you know, 322 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: new Slash CJ McCollum and Corey Kispert's not going to 323 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: help the defense all that much, you know, so somebody's 324 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: got to be acquired. And we said, you know, is 325 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: it AD. Is it a big move like that, or 326 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: is it waiting for a you know, free agency and 327 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: try your hand out of Mitchell Robinson or an Isaiah 328 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: Hartenstein or some other potential big to like actually stop 329 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: people inside, which they really struggle with and they have 330 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: never they haven't had a good defense in like a decade. Yeah, 331 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: they got to do something. It's just a hell of 332 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: a gamble with AD. And in TK you've sort of 333 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: made your thoughts on that pretty clear. You think it's 334 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: a little too risky. 335 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: He's got to be thirty three this year. Yeah, Christaps 336 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: Porzingi's current oldest talk he's thirty years old. Like, it 337 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense from a timeline standpoint. The idea 338 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: of Jalen Johnson and Anthony Davis is pretty fun to 339 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: think about. You know, that's two huge guys with a 340 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: lot of skill that can do everything on the basketball court. 341 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: They would instantly be a better defense with Anthony Davis. 342 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: All that stuff makes sense to me. But I think 343 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: they should slow roll it. I think they would be 344 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 2: better off saving the flexibility and chasing guys like Hartenstein 345 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: and Kobe White, just like additional pieces that help build 346 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 2: up the team. Depth is more important now in the NBA. 347 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: Youth is more important now in the NBA. That's the 348 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: way the teams are actually winning. So I think playing 349 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: it slow and building on the same timeline as your 350 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: best players as your future stars makes more sense. But 351 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: sometimes you want to get out of the play in tournament. 352 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 2: Sometimes you want to be a top six seed and 353 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: try your luck in the playoffs. This is a year 354 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: to maybe take that kind of chance. There's no dominant 355 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: team in the Eastern Conference. The Pistons are probably the 356 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: closest we have so far. The Celtics have looked great. 357 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 2: I think they lost tonight the Knicks. They got it exactly. 358 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: The Knicks got to win tonight, but they've been struggling 359 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: for a little bit here. It does feel like there's 360 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 2: an opening in the Eastern Conference. I don't know if 361 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: I think that Jalen Johnson plus Anthony Davis is good 362 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: enough to put the Hawks over the top, but it 363 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: at least gives them a shot in the postseason. I 364 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: would have to think, more so than what they were 365 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: doing prior to tonight. 366 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just would find it very difficult to go 367 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 3: from what the Hawks did this past offseason and said Trey, now, 368 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: we're not extending you, to turning the tray young unfortunate 369 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: and into an Anthony Davis extension. It just seems backwards. 370 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 3: It seems like two opposites now again. I can talk 371 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: myself into just bringing in Anthony Davis for this next 372 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: guaranteed year plus that player option for Porzingis primarily it 373 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: can start to talk yourself into that. But all the 374 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 3: reports may just be wrong. Maybe just be coming from 375 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis's campus the camp that he wants an extension, 376 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: and maybe the Hawks just wouldn't be willing to give 377 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: it to him. But to trade to turn Porzingis into him, 378 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: you know, whether it's resace cheer or Conglu. I know, 379 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: we got Hawks fans here in the stream team saying 380 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: Congo is our only healthy center. I want to keep 381 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: him around. I get that, I get that, but there's 382 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: so much upside in riesa check anyway. I'm going too 383 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 3: far down the road here, But it feels like this 384 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 3: this it just it's just so bitter for the Hawks 385 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 3: that to end this it's a bitter takes step for 386 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: the Hawks to end it this way with Trey Young 387 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: and not have a next step. But maybe it's just 388 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: that had to be cut right here and right now 389 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 3: before another fifty games with Trey and not wanting to 390 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: be there. 391 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: Really yeah, I mean you say not want to be there, 392 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: It's not I don't feel like Trey was making a 393 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: stink of like get me there all out of here. 394 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: I think it was handled professionally from him and his 395 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: camp and the Hawks and like they just came to 396 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: the conclusion the right one, like the way we're going now, 397 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: the way Jalen Johnson is blossomed into a star plays 398 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: the hope we had for a better team with other 399 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: pieces around you, and how that would click, And it's 400 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: not translating to an elite team or a good team 401 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. We're the same old goddamn Hawks, 402 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: whether you play or whether you really don't, and we 403 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: don't want to do that for another long term contract. 404 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: So all right, let's get you out of here, and 405 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: let's obviously focus on these other guys. And it's the 406 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: right move. 407 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: It is. 408 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: It's it's probably too late. It is too late. They 409 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: would have had they would have got more draft capital, 410 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: they would have got another pick or two. Now they're 411 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: they're lucky, so to speak, because the Pelicans were insane 412 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: and traded them what could be like a top three 413 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: pick for the twenty six drafts. So like they have that, 414 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: so it's got to like feel okay that you're gonna 415 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: add that pretty special player probably if you hit on 416 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: the draft. But yeah, it's just it is weird, man. 417 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: You're right to ask, like this is nothing, this is 418 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: nothing for a franchise guy Like I was thinking about this. 419 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: He's going to the Wizards first off, Like the Wizards 420 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: have sucked forever too, right, I mean, you know you 421 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 1: thought he was never talked about here in Atlanta. 422 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: The Wizards wish they were the Hawks, right right, right? 423 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he picked them that that's another odd part. 424 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 425 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: I've seen I've seen Wizards fans celebrating. They're saying, first 426 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: Alex Sar picked us, then Ace Bailey tried to pick us, 427 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: and now Trey Young is picking us. 428 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: Okay, that never happened. I do not think Trey Young 429 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: was actually really picking Washington. But yeah, he gonna get paid. Probably, 430 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid, and he's gonna put up his 431 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: twenty five and ten and hopefully they'll they'll probably be 432 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: a thirty eight thirty nine win team moving forward. That's 433 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: what he did a lot of here in Atlanta. 434 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: Uh. 435 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: The point was Washington has been so bad for so 436 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: long that if you took Trey Young's like complete wind shares, 437 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: his career wind shares, and you just plopped it into 438 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: the all time greats of the Wizards, the best wind shares, 439 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: he would be like sixth all time. Think about that. 440 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: He played seven years for the Hawks and has like 441 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: forty four wind shares four time all like you talked about, 442 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,239 Speaker 1: maybe could have made another one or two if they 443 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: were better. That's like John Wall. That's John Wall's like 444 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: Wizard's career. It's insane. Man. So like they're getting a 445 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: great player, they're buying extremely low. Like, we're gonna cheer 446 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: for Trey Young. We're obviously here in Atlanta. He was 447 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: always great to us with the show and like, the 448 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: guy's gonna put up a lot of assists and you 449 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: can still score. He's just having a brutal year too, 450 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: is the other part, like this is the worst year 451 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: of his career when he did play. 452 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely true. And like you mentioned before, the 453 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 2: Hawks could have gotten more if they traded Trey at 454 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: last deadline, though there were rumors at the time that 455 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: he was on the trade block and the offers weren't 456 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: all that exciting, so they went into the summer, let's 457 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: see if there's anything we can do. Man, not really, 458 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: but the Pelicans trade was a life saver. Imagine if 459 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: the Hawks didn't have that, they owe the Spurs their 460 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: pick this summer. Yeah, it's a swap. So that getting 461 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: the Pelicans pick and the Pelicans being as bad as 462 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 2: they are allowed the Hawks to make a move like this. Yeah, 463 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: because you're not trading Trey Young for a bag of 464 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: beans if you are losing the number one pick in 465 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 2: the draft. But since they have the backstop they can 466 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: do it. But uh, you mentioned the wind chair has 467 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: got a good question here from Scott Novak here in 468 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: the stream. Team is Trey Young a top five Atlanta 469 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: Hawk of all time? That disqualifies Bob Pettitt. He was 470 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: a Saint Louis Hawk, lou Hudson before our time. But 471 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: let's think about guys in today's stratosphere, or like guys 472 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: that we've watched Dominique number one obviously, right, he's got 473 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: a statue to Ken Bay. 474 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's Tree Young is automatically included in the top five. 475 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, because what you're putting him like ahead or right 476 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: on par with Al Horford, Paul millsap, Joe Johnson, Uh, 477 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: Mookie Blaylock. Yeah, like he's better than Mookie Blaylock. 478 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve Smith, Steve Smith one time All Star, I 479 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: do believe. 480 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but then we're going into the jeft 481 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: Kyle korver Realms. 482 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: So, but Tray is better than those guys. Great, yeah, 483 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: his peak of course, and yeah he's got more still 484 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: left in the back. But yeah, I mean, I guess 485 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: if you're saying, like our generation TK or Scott here, 486 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: like yeah, yes he is, Like, yes, he. 487 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 3: Is yes, yes, yes, And it's odd to be thinking that, 488 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: at twenty seven years of age, she's going from a 489 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: team that could easily retire his number to be in 490 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: dealt for a couple guys that aren't going to play 491 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: for them frankly, you know, or play much of a 492 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: role at all for them. It's it's just odd. It 493 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: feels odd. 494 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: So if you're just joining us, let's hear your thoughts 495 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: in the stream team here on YouTube. Your thoughts on 496 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: the Wizards Hawks trade Trey Young for CJ McCollum and 497 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: Corey Kispert. And no, there were no picks. It's not 498 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: that we just didn't want to put them on the graphic. 499 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: There there were no picks. It was second round picks, 500 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: no late first round picks, nothing, just two guys for 501 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: one guy. And I want to get your opinions on 502 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: this jersey swap here that I always like to pretend 503 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: Shaan's has to do himself. Maybe he's a photoshop boy. 504 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: I'm not breaking this until I finish my graphic. 505 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's actually had this news for like two hours, 506 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: but he was really struggling with photoshop. Canvo was it working? 507 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: What do you think here? TK? I love your opinions 508 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: on these things. How does Trey look in the Golden Black? 509 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: Is that might be a city edition for all I know? 510 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: And then you got the CJ. McCollum and the Hawks there. 511 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: That's just a wild choice to choose for Tray on 512 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: the gold version? Are you kidding me? He looks good though, 513 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: I like. I don't know if he'll wear one. I 514 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: don't know Wizard's retired numbers off the top of my 515 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: head or current roster. Is there an eleven on their 516 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: current roster? Yeah? I don't know, but he's got a 517 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: cool number, like if he's able to stick with eleven. 518 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: I like the look of that, okay, And you know 519 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: he's gotta be wearing red, white and blue. Washington is 520 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: due for an upgrade on their uniforms, I would say, 521 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: feeling a little past their prime to me. And then CJ. McCollum, 522 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: I don't think this is the best fitting jersey in 523 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: the photo shop. But the Hawks have classic jerseys and 524 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: I do love their blacks. 525 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: I think Cam Whitmore wears number one on the Wizards, 526 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: and I don't think there's an eleven, so he should 527 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 1: be wearing eleven unless it's retired, and I'm forgetting like 528 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, wes Unseld or somebody wore it was for 529 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: one Okay, let. 530 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: Me do some research here, Okay. 531 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: So there it is Trey Young going to the Washington 532 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: Wizards and the Hawk's getting CJ McCollum and Corey Kispert 533 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: and his test has talked about here tonight. Are they done? 534 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: Does Atlanta have something else up their sleeve? Hence the 535 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: timing of this, Saul maybe getting CJ and Corey in there? 536 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: See what you got and are you making a move 537 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: for someone else? Maybe like ad Yeah? 538 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 3: And to be clear, they can't trade CJ McCollum before 539 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 3: the trade deadline. Aggregate it like that? Like what was 540 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 3: it was last year? As Dennis Schruer was traded in 541 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: early December, so he could be traded before the trade deadline? 542 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: Does he need a full two months? But Porzingis would 543 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: be the prime guy if they were gonna make a deal. Uh, 544 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: speaking of prime guys, I know people are excited to 545 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: talk about Joe Johnson and Josh Smith as Atlanta Hawks. 546 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: They're they're they're boys as Atlanta Hawks and claiming that 547 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: they're better than Trey Young. Listen, Oh, due respect to 548 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 3: those guys. There's there's special guys, but there's just there's 549 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: special moments for Trey Young winning in Madison Square Garden 550 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: that Joe Johnson and Josh Smith don't have. You know, 551 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 3: like there's this that was that was a special run. 552 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: It was one run. It literally was one run. 553 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: Been living on the back of that run for a while, 554 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: start of getting tired of talking about that run. 555 00:28:54,040 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, Joe Ben Simmons, He's the whole reason that run exists. 556 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, good point. 557 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I don't know where Joe Johnson 558 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: was on the wind chairs, But is there any moment 559 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: from Joe Johnson's career that you remember from the Atlanta 560 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: Hawks and watch him go to All Star Game after 561 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: Olstar Game after Allstar Yeah, you know. 562 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: It's it's I mean, Joe Johnson had a lot of 563 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: game winners, but from what I remember, there were a 564 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: lot of regular season game winners. Yeah, yeah, not a 565 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: lot of postseason success. Yeah. 566 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: Either way, I think Tray's gonna look cool and the Wizards. Look, 567 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: they got the city edition courts and I think it 568 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: looks nice for the district. Man. I think I think 569 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: he's gonna be you don't think he You don't think 570 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: he looked at Washington on the map and said, yeah, yeah, 571 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: I want to go there. 572 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. 573 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: It does not seem like a guy that's going to 574 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: do well in the cold to me. 575 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: Want he's tiny and frail, like from Oklahoma. 576 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, does it get cold in Oklahoma? 577 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: I guess not really, that's Midwestern, you know. I imagine 578 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: they get some. 579 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: So okay DC. 580 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: He's always talking about how much he loves cherry blossoms. 581 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: So it's not a surprise you want to be there. 582 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: And we got I guess we get a Trey Tray backcourt, right, 583 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean we're gonna see some Trey Young and Trey Johnson. 584 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely so, Trey Tray. Trey, what do you think of that? 585 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: That's what everybody called me growing up? Trey Tray. Oh wow, 586 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: that's my childhood nickname before they switched to Skippy. Hated 587 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: that one. Oh Tray Tray was good. Of course, I'm 588 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: gonna have to root for this backcourt. I kind of liked, 589 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: you know, I was a minor Wizards fan. I liked 590 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: some of their players. I liked the idea of some 591 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: of their guys, and it just always seemed like they 592 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: needed a guy to unify them, to build around. And 593 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 2: now they have Trey Young, a player that I've liked 594 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 2: rooting for here in Atlanta. Like you said, he's been 595 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: good to the show. He's an enjoyable watch. He does 596 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: some fun stuff. So I'm gonna be interested to see 597 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 2: what they do and what kind of effect he can 598 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: have playing with all these young dudes who are still 599 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: trying to figure out what they're best at in the NBA. 600 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: All right, well, we will talk more about this, I'm 601 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: sure tomorrow morning at ten am Eastern live here on YouTube, 602 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,479 Speaker 1: and then we flip it into a podcast. Will Michael 603 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: Scotto show up? We do not know Scott to watch. 604 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: We are on Scott to watch. It's not a big 605 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: deal he doesn't because there's a million games on tonight. 606 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: We could draft some of tonight's best games. How about 607 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: that quickly game winner? But so, yeah, we got lots 608 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: to talk about. Hopefully you'll join us, and yeah, we'll 609 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 1: probably get into this a little bit more. Great timing, 610 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: good start to trade season. Yeah, go ahead, TK, No, 611 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: you're you're totally right. Perfect timing. 612 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: It was like East Coast Games ended trade called in 613 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: so we can go live at a perfect time when 614 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: you know East Coast still awake, West Coast just in 615 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: the prime of things. It's ideal. We got to give 616 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: a shout out to our super chatters. PJC came in 617 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: through and sponsored the emergency pod. Oh wow, first time ever. 618 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: That is a first hop on in thee and Simon says, 619 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 2: happy trade season. Tr a ed. You know that one's 620 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: gonna be getting a lot of use in the next 621 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: twenty four hours. Oh yeah, thank you very much. 622 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: It was fun to follow John Hollinger at the Athletic 623 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: who was at the Fortress tonight here in Atlanta as 624 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: the Hawks took on the Pelicans. I was watching, I 625 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: was watching his tweets or skeets. Is that what they're 626 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: called on Blue Sky? Are they literally named after me? 627 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 628 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: It was fun watching him, like obviously talk about the game, 629 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: but there was a lot of like, Trey Young's doing this, 630 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: Trey Young is now shaking hands with so and so. 631 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: Trey Young has made his way back to the tunnel 632 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: and that's when I saw that one. I was like, 633 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: oh he's leaving, was like eight minutes to go, and 634 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: like sure enough. It was one of you immediately in 635 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: the slack channel like boo, it's done. It's official. So 636 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: they must have pulled him back or told him to 637 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: come back. So yeah, exciting stuff. Oh my god. All right, 638 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it more tomorrow. We'll talk about tonight's games. 639 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Hit theake button, subscribe five star 640 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: ratings and reviews if you're a podcast listener on Apple 641 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: and Spotify. Until then, Clipper Bros. 642 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 2: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up. 643 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: Love you guys. 644 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: Awesome, Thanks for joining us. And remember I'm just reading 645 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: this right now. I have to share. They followed Trey 646 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: for like twenty seconds in the tunnel. Who the camera 647 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: people or. 648 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: Oh the broadcast? 649 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 3: I guess, I guess. 650 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: What do you mean followed? 651 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? I just mean the shot, like the camera I 652 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: imagine it's coming from. 653 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Trey leave. 654 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: He was on the scene. Yes, he knew something. 655 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: Was up, Yeah he did. Yeah, apparently it was the cameras. 656 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: According all right, they just knew the camera's knew, hey 657 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 3: have a camera on Trey Young tonight. He may be 658 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: dealt follow him, follow him, follow him. So Trey's ready man, 659 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 3: ready to say goodbye? 660 00:33:52,080 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: In the morning