WEBVTT - Obsessed, Burned and Busted (S1 Ep12 "Every Day a Little Death") 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:02.560 Welcome to Desperately Devoted. 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:05.360 Think of us as your favorite neighbors as we chat 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:07.920 about life and relationships. 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.680 All while we revisit the iconic show Desperate Housewives together. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:15.200 I'm Terry Hatcher, I'm Andrea Bowen, and I'm Emerson Tunny. Well, Hi, 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.959 welcome back to Desperately Devoted. Hello, my favorite podcast that 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:25.480 I've ever hosted. Well, we get to rewatch Desperate Housewives 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:26.080 every week. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:27.440 This week we. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:31.479 Are rewatching episode twelve, which was amazing, and Weerson and Andrew. 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.320 How was your week. I've missed you. I love seeing 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:34.159 your little faces. 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:36.040 It was good. It was a really busy week. 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:40.080 It was a combination of busyness and fullness and so 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.920 much gratitude and surging pregnancy hormones that made me feel 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.280 totally out of control. And I was googling in the 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.959 middle of the night, like what is pregnancy rage? And 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.000 I found out that there is a thing in their 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.840 third trimester which I'm now in of pregnancy rage. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:55.800 And oh, thank god for online communities. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.120 Not always sometimes there's scary bad places, but in pregnancy, 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.840 I think, oh, thanks for my people letting me know 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.560 that what I'm feeling is totally valid. And okay and normal. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.360 Yeah, well, I mean I kind of have that with 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.880 the sandwich videos I'm doing about caregiving on my Instagram. Yeah, 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.679 creating a community and podcasts do that, you know, and 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:13.840 that's what we're trying to do here. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:15.280 So yeah, yeah, I alwish your week. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:16.280 My week. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.319 My week has been good. I mean, I'm working. I'm 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.640 working really hard on a pitch that I a movie 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.880 I'm pitching, and it's really been one of those incredible 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.280 experiences when you drop into a story that you feel 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.720 so passionate about telling, and a part of you feels like, 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.960 you know, what this is actually already been told and 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.560 thinking about I mean, slightly different, but that kind of 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.399 connectivity of how you feel a part of something larger, 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.920 you know, whether in the case of Desperate Housewives it's 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.400 the community of a street, the way the community of 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:47.080 the neighborhood comes together in your case, Andrea, finding online forums, 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.400 in the case of our podcast right now, you know, 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.080 finding our listeners and thinking what makes us feel not 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.240 alone in the world. I've really been meditating a lot 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.320 on this week. How I think the idea of being 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:04.440 truly no by another person is the biggest gift. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.960 That we and can have I mean known, I guess 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.000 seen as part of me. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.440 Yeah, but sometimes I think we're seen and we aren't 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.839 actually known. And to be known by someone and recognized 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.560 in that way, I think, you know, when thinking about 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.280 the idea of Martha Hooper, like what constitutes an exciting 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.880 life or in her case, an exciting death as we 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.120 get into in this episode. But I feel like, to me, 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.120 an exciting life is a life where I feel that 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.000 I am known by the people around me. I love that. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.040 I mean, I'm committed to continue to know you, re 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.640 meet you through all of your many colors and phases 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:38.000 of life. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.720 That's an interesting thing that you would put it that way, though, too, 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.320 because it makes me think about how sometimes we are 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.239 not able to broaden our view of somebody like they 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:54.359 are what they are when we first meet them, and 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.480 if we know them for decades, we don't actually let 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.600 them evolve into maybe a different version of themselves, which 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:07.120 reminds me of what Susan and Edie go through a 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.040 little bit in this episode, which we'll get to all. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.240 I got to ask you first, though, has anybody desperately 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:13.960 devoted to anything this week? 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:15.600 For me, it was my. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.400 Pillow because I, like you, was very busy and super 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:25.320 tired and overworked and overtraveled and overvirused, and I just 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.960 wanted to be in my bed on my pillow at 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:28.440 all times. 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.000 Yeah, So for me, it was my pillow. 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.399 Yeah, for me, it is my mother. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:33.120 Oh. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.160 I am so desperately devoted to my mom. I feel 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.480 so extra connected to her throughout this pregnancy. And I 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.320 just have to say that one of her gifts to 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.320 me at my shower was to bring me which you 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.880 both saw, the outfit that I wore when she brought 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.840 me home from the hospital, and she has kept it 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.440 in pristine condition and she gave it to me, and 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.000 that is what I'm going to bring my little girl 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.480 home in. So it's beauty much, but that's what I'm 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:56.080 devoting to. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:56.560 Wait to see that. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:00.320 That was the most beautiful, little yellow baby outfit. God, 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.760 it made me so happy. I think I'm desperately devoted 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:08.080 to my Spotify playlist right now. I make playlists for 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.200 each project i'm writing, and I have one for the 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.760 project I'm pitching later this week. And I was kind 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.680 of stuck in the story and I put it on 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.200 and I went for a long drive and I really 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.560 like to do that. I sometimes like let myself watch 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.159 how I imagine the movie would unfold and what the 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.760 soundtrack might be. And so music has really been a 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:32.960 great unsticker. It's unstuck me from various Yeah. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.080 Inspire me a lot of ways about music in my life, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.320 and I've had other people suggest that to me, and 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.320 I find music can be a good unsticker. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:41.719 Yeah. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:47.360 Well, okay, so speaking of music, Yeah, this episode episode twelve, 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.960 every Day a Little Death comes from the stephen Son 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:55.240 Time musical A Little Night Music from nineteen seventy three. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.400 This one aired on January sixteenth, two thousand and five. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.279 I know we're into five, we're out of two thousand 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:02.080 and four. I love it. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.360 And my highlight reel for this episode, which by the way, 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.920 I'm now referring to it as my highlight reel because 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.800 it's football season and I'm a huge football fan and 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.960 I love everything football and I had football on all 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:17.000 day yesterday and so but the forty nine ers lost 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:18.960 and that was sad, and they lost badly so and 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.880 they're a lot of their team is beat up. So 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.440 that's not a good sign for my team. But anyway, 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:28.520 my highlight reel on episode twelve was Missus Hooper's death. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:34.760 Death is confirmed, your body is found? Lynette Is she 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:39.680 uses the false assumption that her son has cancer to 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.719 help her get into the overbooked yoga. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:46.200 Class that a new parenting low to me. I mean 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.200 to go from gum and the hair to my childhoods 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.400 a terminal illness, so I can just please let me 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.440 into yoga is really karmically. I think you're circling the 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:56.400 karmic drain. There. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.840 I love that image, circling the karmic drain. And car 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.279 Wills is out of jail. He's home, but he's also 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.279 on house arrest. So he's home, but he's also stuck. 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.120 And he gets. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.200 It in his head that the way to be the 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.200 man of the house and control Gabby is to replace 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.440 her birth control pills with some sort of talk about 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:16.960 circling the drain. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.640 Yeah, oh my god, I mean this is abhorrent to me, 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.520 and I have so much to say about it, but 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:23.360 I don't want to get in it. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:24.400 We'll get involved with your heart. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.479 Then we have Brie, who continues to hang out with 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:30.240 George even though she is really using it as a 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:34.400 friendship and understanding that it's not going to evolve into 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:38.240 anything more romantic. So she's with her wacky pharmacist who 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:43.280 proceeds to shoot his toe off at a shooting range. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:44.680 Where date really ended in a bang. 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:48.320 Nicely done. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:52.839 We need a drum roll, but yeah, and then Edie 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:57.520 ropes the very guilty Susan, who feels so because she 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.520 knows that she burned Eddie's house down. She ropes her 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.479 into going out to a remote lake to spread missus 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.200 Hooper's ashes. And for me, those were my highlights and 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.280 I love the themes that came up around them. Do 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.040 you guys have anything to add well? 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.960 I wanted to ask because you mentioned the Edie and 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.440 Susan in the rowboat scene, which I totally want to 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:19.800 get into, and I want to hear about if you 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.920 remember filming that and where that was shot. But there's 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.440 a line that Edie says to Susan, and just because 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.720 you mentioned the forty nine ers, where Edie says, I 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:32.360 bet you were a cheerleader in high school. And I 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.160 laughed at this because and I thought maybe you could 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.760 speak to it. You were actually an NFL cheerleader, not 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.480 in high school, but for the San Francisco forty nine. 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:42.760 Ers asert photo here. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:48.280 Yeah, exactly, But I think that is very I thought, 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.800 as your daughter, oh my gosh, that is so counter 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.400 to how you have talked about your actual experience in 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.720 high school. And I just I wanted to hear your 0:07:58.440 --> 0:07:59.800 if that line stood out to you in the way 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:00.680 that stood out to me. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.880 It did not, But I do understand what you're saying, 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.760 and I feel like a couple of things. I mean, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.480 there's no reason we don't have there's no reason to 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.120 go in order of the episode, really, but I think 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.440 this was a very resonating area between Susan and Edie, 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.080 and for me, it was a couple of reasons. One 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.000 I thought people would really relate. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:20.480 I did. 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.400 And I think this is what you're alluding to, Emerson, 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:27.640 is this idea of so Edie says to Susan, we 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.760 never outgrow high school, that who you are in high 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:33.960 school is who you continue to be, and that in 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:38.080 high school, she assumes that Susan was the cheerleader and 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.600 popular and everybody's friend, and that Edie was more of 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.760 like the bad girl who was smoking and getting into trouble. 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:49.920 And these two groups of people do never co mingle 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.800 and even past high school and on into life, they 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.520 never would either. And that's the sort of conceit that 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.840 Edie puts out there. At the same time, she all 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:05.640 So is taking Susan up to this remote lake to 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:11.199 spread what Edi expresses as her best friend, missus Hooper's ashes, 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.720 And I have a personal experience with spreading someone's ashes, 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.000 So I wanted to share and discuss like both of 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.480 those things. So to answer your question about I mean, 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:26.439 and I'm interested to see what you guys think. I 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.960 think that Edie is sort of right that people in 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:37.400 a way don't outgrow their high school position. I think. 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.840 But it's sort of like I said to you earlier, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.720 I would hope that they would. I would hope that 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.560 I did, and I would hope that people would let them. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:50.440 And I think these things are they're different. Like your 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.560 ability to outgrow your high school self, I think is 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.320 very accessible. If you do the work, I think you 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:01.240 can evolve into a better, more or just broad better 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.480 person than most of us were in high school because 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.280 we didn't know anything. But sometimes people don't want to 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:12.040 let you. And it is a very interesting thing. Was 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.200 I was on the dance team in high school, and 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:16.559 I was. 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.400 A cheerleader adjacent it. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:22.440 Is, and I was captain of the dance team seconds. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:24.560 But you know, I look at that. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:29.120 And I think of it as the responsibility it held. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.600 And if you're really challenging me to go deep on, 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:37.240 what is that journey? And it's actually kind of painful. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.520 I don't really like in hindsight that I feel like 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:46.560 I've held positions of responsibility that I either didn't want 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.120 or wasn't ready for. And in my high school, I 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.640 was on this drill team and I was the captain. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.880 But like California at the time, it was like Prop 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.760 thirteen and public school has lost all their tax money, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:05.559 so they fired our advisor. Like we didn't have college advisors, 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.600 we didn't have. All these people lost their jobs, so 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:15.040 I didn't have an adult supervisor over the drill team supporting. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.280 So I was in this position as a seventeen year 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:23.800 old being like telling girls what to do, and it 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.280 was my position to try to carry that out to 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.960 the best of my ability to have a drill team 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.280 that could compete against other schools, and we often won. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.280 We were not we were the featherets, and we were 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:39.960 known for winning the act nut. But I don't think 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.000 I wanted it. I just got it, you know. And 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.240 I think about my role as an only child in 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:51.480 a pretty problematic household of parents fighting and trying to 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:56.040 like make the peace and create an environment that would 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.480 be better for all of us, which also was not 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.720 my job. And if I think about it, I just 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.560 feel like maybe that I end up in that position 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.920 where I and I wonder as it applies to Susan. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.679 I don't know that somebody who I think of her 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:18.040 character as as somebody who actually things don't necessarily go 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:22.600 well for and she isn't always like the winner of 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.400 the best guy, you know, and her love life doesn't 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:30.720 always work out, and she doesn't seem powerful to me. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.760 I mean, this is my view in hindsight twenty years later. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.160 I'm not sure I was thinking these. 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.560 Things when I was playing it, but I think look 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.160 at the two of them, and I think of Edie 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.160 as going through the world and getting what she wants. Yeah, 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:48.040 And I think of confidently, and I think of Susan not. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.120 And it's so interesting because I think I can see 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.520 Edie's I think I am thinking about my physician in 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.240 high school, which I don't know if I still occupied today, 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.600 but in some ways maybe I do. I was always 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.040 a very floater in high school, Like I floated between 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.160 a lot of different social groups. I was friends with 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.200 the popular kids. I would get invited to parties, but 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.120 I didn't necessarily like sit with them at lunch or 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.240 go back to their houses after school or hang out 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.920 with them all the time. I was really integrated into 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.400 the musical theater scene, which my school was much more 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.640 of an athletic school, so we had a very small 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:32.319 kind of nerdy. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.520 But arguably the best group to be around. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.959 I mean, I would argue that we had a very 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.360 small nerdy group there. I was also one of the 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.079 editors of our lip magazine, so that was also its 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.760 other kind of subset. And I floated between all of 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:50.560 these different social groups in a way that was great 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.080 but also kind of left me fundamentally on my own. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:54.880 You know. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.120 I had connections to a lot of people, but not like, oh, 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.640 I I the bell rings for lunch, I know exactly 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.120 what table I'm going to to sit at. Oftentimes I 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.040 actually went to my English teachers classroom and ate lunch 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.840 in his classroom, which. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.600 I think that says a lot about who you are now. 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:12.800 It does say, yeah, and I do. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.960 Think of you as somebody who everyone likes and your 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.880 friends with everyone, Well. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.480 Thank you. And I love people and they're my species 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.760 and I like to be friends with them. But I 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.520 think I now I kind of while I was definitely 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.120 not like the bad girl smoking cigarette of God, I 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:33.080 do not smoke cigarets in Edie's perspective, but I was 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:34.960 a little bit more of a loner the way that 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.000 she is, and I can see her perspective that you're 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.440 viewing is very powerful. I think some of people who 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.520 know me might view me as powerfully kind of going 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.360 from thing to thing in my life, there is sometimes 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:50.320 a fundamental aloneness in that, like, yes, I go after 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.360 the things that I want, but I go after them alone, 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.520 and I take care of them myself alone. And so 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.320 for Edie, looking at someone like Susan, who we maybe 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.840 can view as potentially a more character, but who does 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.560 sort of seamlessly fall into the community of the other 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.120 women on her block, even if it's while they're consoling 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.440 her for the various mishaps going on in her life, 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.800 she sort of has a place that I could imagine 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.280 Edie looking at and envying because Edie doesn't necessarily have 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.120 you know, the same seat at the high school lunch 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:22.280 table that community. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.480 Yeah, And I think it's really so speaking as someone 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.960 who went to high school on the back lot of 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.960 Universal Studios and I was the only one there, and 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.520 my studio teacher I. 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.320 Did it was also Drew Barrymore's studio teacher, Yes. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.280 Who was also Drew Verrymore's childhood studio teacher for a 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.880 lot of her career. I didn't have any sort of 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.880 tent poles community of this is where the cool kids sit, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.080 this is where the class clowns are, this is the 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.200 you know, artsy people that I mean. It was just 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.400 me and I sort of kind of fit, I would say, 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.520 in a lot of those different boxes. But I will 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.080 say the other thing that I thought about based on 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.040 this particular storyline was how hard it is to make 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:06.640 friends as an adult. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.960 And I think a lot of people relate to that. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:14.160 I think, you know, you have these built in opportunities 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.240 for friendship when you're a child growing up, because you 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.600 have school, and you have sports, and you have you know, 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:19.520 all different kinds. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:20.320 Of things clubs. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.480 Yeah, and you're already batched together with kids in your 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.000 same age range and maybe some of your same interests 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:30.040 if you're exploring hobbies or extracurriculars. But when you're an adult, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.920 you know it's much harder and you don't always the 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.160 people you interact with on a daily basis are For 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.480 a lot of people, the people they work with and 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.840 their commonalities might be work related, but it doesn't necessarily 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.880 mean they vibe outside of that. And I remember when 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.560 I moved back to New York after Desperate Housewives ended, 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:53.640 and I was excited to go back to where I 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.400 grew up and just kind of get out of LA 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.280 for a little while and explore being in my mid 0:16:58.320 --> 0:16:59.400 twenties in New York City. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:01.920 I had had a lot of childhood. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:02.880 Friends in New York City, but a lot of them 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.800 had since grown up, been moved and started new things, 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.080 And so I did, for the first time in my life, 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.800 feel like I had to actively go out and seek 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.480 new friendships as a mid twenty something, and I remember 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.879 really feeling like, this is hard, This is hard. I 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.879 even had a moment in a coffee shop once where 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.480 I was like desperately trying to bond with someone that 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.800 I thought seemed cool, and I was just trying to 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.639 It felt like I was like flirting because I was 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.040 trying to be witty and I was trying to be 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.479 charming over something about like the stir sticks or something 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:40.199 so uninteresting. But I wanted so badly for her to 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.800 see my sense of humor or for her to see 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:44.560 And then what did I think was going to happen? 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.879 That I was going to be like, hey, do you 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:48.680 want to take my number and hang out? 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.439 Like I didn't even know where to go with it, 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.399 but I felt this desire because. 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.960 She seemed cool. I don't even remember why, and I 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.000 just thought, this is how you do this? How else 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:58.600 do you do it? 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.240 I think you're making though really good point. And as 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:06.679 a single woman for like decades, it has been something 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.400 that I have thought about a lot, investing in new friendships, 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:16.000 investing in friendships with other single women, because you know, 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.600 my married friends, most of my friends are long term married, 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.040 most of my closest friends, and while they make themselves 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.359 available to me and we do things all the time, 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.879 they still have their husbands and families are always going 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.639 to be their first priority. And so in finding single 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:37.400 women that were older that were forty to fifty now 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:42.080 sixty years old, that I could interact with. Yeah, it's 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:47.280 a conscious effortful thing. But I would recommend to anyone 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:52.760 of any age get out of your house, do things 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.960 that you're interested in, and don't be afraid to introduce 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:56.840 yourself to people. 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.400 Don't be I hear prof G. Do you you listen 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:00.760 to him? 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.159 Yeah, I hear him talk about this in regards to 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:08.560 young men like that, they just don't have the confidence. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.080 And I would just encourage anyone listening to get out 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.840 of their comfort zone, meet other people, find common interests, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.400 have community with actual humans in person. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:20.800 I think it's really good for your. 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:24.240 Life, and invite the invite the person to the poker game. 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, I am so the proponent. 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.159 I have totally made some friendships by talking to people 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.399 in coffee shops who later have gone to my friends 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:33.800 and then like, I don't know if she was flirting 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.159 with me or she wants to be friends. Well I 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.280 did want to be friends. But I was gonna say 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.320 in Edie's case, I actually think it makes sense that 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.479 Edie and Susan are paired up, and often they're sort 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.960 of paired up in scenes as adversaries, but they are 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:50.080 the two single women on Mysteria Lane and Edie just 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.840 wants to be invited to the poker game. And so 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.000 if you can, you know, find someone who's also single 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:59.280 who will accidentally burn down your house and then feel 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:03.800 so guilty about it that they for the rest of 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.640 your they invite you to a pogram after hosing down 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.719 human remains off of you on your lawn, which I 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.040 have to say, that scene where Edie shoots you down 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.600 with the hose yeh is so funny. And I want 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.280 to circle back to your. 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:20.520