Speaker 1: Look out. It's only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer, director,
Speaker 1: a garment wearer, and I love film. As Mother Teresa
Speaker 1: once said, if you judge people, you have no time
Speaker 1: to love them. The same with film. If you assume
Speaker 1: forty five years is going to be boring, you'll never
Speaker 1: see one of the greatest films ever made. Preach Mother Teresa.
Speaker 1: Every week I'm by a special guest over. I tell
Speaker 1: them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their
Speaker 1: life through the films that meant the most of them.
Speaker 1: Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Jamila Jamil, Sharon Stone, and
Speaker 1: even Clad Plaid Balls. But this week it's the brilliant
Speaker 1: writer and podcaster Sarah Marshall. Head over to the Patriot
Speaker 1: at patreon dot com forwards left Brett Goldstein for an
Speaker 1: extra fifteen minutes of chat secrets, beginnings and openings. Then
Speaker 1: get the whole episode, uncut and ad free, and as
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Speaker 1: Nice Brett Goldstein. So, Sarah Marshall is a writer and podcaster.
Speaker 1: She has an incredible podcast called You're Wrong About, which,
Speaker 1: if you haven't heard, you must listen to. Takes things
Speaker 1: you thought you knew from cultural history and fills you
Speaker 1: in on the stuff you didn't know and makes you
Speaker 1: see things in a whole new light. It's funny, it's interesting,
Speaker 1: and it is genuinely profound. I'm very excited to talk
Speaker 1: to her. We recorded this one zoom. We've never met before.
Speaker 1: We had a very lovely time. So that is it
Speaker 1: for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode two
Speaker 1: hundred and nine of Films to be Buried With. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is
Speaker 1: I Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined today by a writer,
Speaker 1: a podcaster, a journalist, historian, a writer of wrongs, a
Speaker 1: Captain America for our America, a Portlandia, and a human
Speaker 1: person please welcome to this show, a legend and a hero.
Speaker 1: It's Sarah Bashow. Thank you. That was amazing. God, I
Speaker 1: just saw this is not a big spoiler. I just
Speaker 1: saw the new Doctor Strange movie where we have like
Speaker 1: alternate universe, like Captain Britannica. I don't think that's what
Speaker 1: she called she's called, but it's Peggy Carter with a
Speaker 1: big union jack on. So that's my mental image for
Speaker 1: that that intro, and I encourage everyone to share it
Speaker 1: if they want. That's very cool. How are you? You
Speaker 1: were just telling me and I said, hang on, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have tell me on the tell me on the podcast.
Speaker 1: You're living in Portland now for those who don't know Portland,
Speaker 1: and I don't, but what I do know is where
Speaker 1: the cool kids live. Now some of us live here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to be clear, there are two Portland's. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: probably another smaller one, but two that I know of.
Speaker 1: There's Portland, Maine in Portland, Oregon, which was named after Portland, Maine.
Speaker 1: And I remember when I was younger, I would say
Speaker 1: I was from Portland and people would say, oh, you're
Speaker 1: from Maine, and I was like, no, I'm from the
Speaker 1: other one. And I think Portland, Oregon has become the
Speaker 1: main one in the last or the primary one in
Speaker 1: the last ten years. And yeah, I was just saying
Speaker 1: that I live in a neighborhood that has something. I'm
Speaker 1: sure this exists elsewhere, but I haven't seen it anywhere else.
Speaker 1: We have a few quote Lingerie modeling businesses. And my
Speaker 1: understanding of this is that no one is going there
Speaker 1: to buy lingerie. It's just one hundred percent lap dances.
Speaker 1: It's like you have a little bit of space, so
Speaker 1: you don't have enough real estate for a stage or anything.
Speaker 1: It's just a fully lap dance business. And then I
Speaker 1: also live close to actually I think a couple of
Speaker 1: different monasteries, so it's a wonderful town in there. It's
Speaker 1: all happening, so hanging. I mean, it's a lingerie shop.
Speaker 1: What you go in in the day, you pretend to
Speaker 1: go by lingerie going in for one that does in
Speaker 1: a dressing room, in a changing room. So as the
Speaker 1: host of a fact finding podcast, I have to state
Speaker 1: clearly that like I have not gone inside, I haven't
Speaker 1: patronized these businesses like anything could be going on. But
Speaker 1: I suspect and I have pieced together from Yale previews
Speaker 1: that it's there's no lingerie for sale at all. Like
Speaker 1: this is like a euphemism. My theory is that a
Speaker 1: like one business and I think it might have been
Speaker 1: I think it's called Honeysuckles, came up with this term first,
Speaker 1: and they were like lingerie modeling. That's how we're going
Speaker 1: to explain that's like the euphemism for like some gals
Speaker 1: and an intimate context wearing a you know, a sexy
Speaker 1: little outfit and all that follows from that, and that
Speaker 1: other businesses copied. This again is my theory. But I mean,
Speaker 1: this conversation is making me realize I need to just
Speaker 1: go in on this question. You need to do an
Speaker 1: entire episode on it. Yeah, you do. For those who
Speaker 1: don't know you're most famous. Well, if I may, who
Speaker 1: knows certain it's me? For your podcast you're wrong about
Speaker 1: if anyone is not listened to it, it's very very
Speaker 1: excellent and it is about you. Well you can tell
Speaker 1: us tell the people who don't know how you would
Speaker 1: pitch that podcast, And then I wanted to talk to
Speaker 1: you about why and how because it's very very brilliant.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I mean, I feel like it's something that
Speaker 1: encapsulates it. Well, is that before I did this show,
Speaker 1: I would often when I was a freelance writer, try
Speaker 1: to picch stories based on this idea of like what
Speaker 1: if we revisited something that was a major media sensation
Speaker 1: and just like caught up with it. We're just like, hey, like,
Speaker 1: what was that all? About what does it look like
Speaker 1: now if we look at it now. And I remember
Speaker 1: pitching Baby Fisher and also a case that I think
Speaker 1: was known as Baby m It's been a while since
Speaker 1: I looked at it, but it was kind of the
Speaker 1: moment when surrogacy, I think as a phenomenon became national
Speaker 1: news to Americans, And in pitching those stories and a
Speaker 1: lot of others, a response I tended to get was like,
Speaker 1: this would be worth talking about if you had like
Speaker 1: a new interview with Amy Fisher, Like if you could
Speaker 1: go like be like, here's what Amy Fisher says now,
Speaker 1: but like there's nothing really Like I think the calculus
Speaker 1: set editors are always trying to do is some kind
Speaker 1: of balance between what they care about, what they think
Speaker 1: it's important for their publication or for journalism to be doing,
Speaker 1: and then the question of like will people click on this,
Speaker 1: which I assume is not that different from the old
Speaker 1: question of like will people see this headline and want
Speaker 1: to pick up this newspaper and buy it? And the
Speaker 1: calculus people were doing then was like, there's not an
Speaker 1: appetite for revisiting news stories from the nineties, if there
Speaker 1: isn't some like bombshell new twists that you're getting from
Speaker 1: a new interview with someone who was part of it.
Speaker 1: And I feel like now most of TV is doing that,
Speaker 1: So I do feel like I have been proven right. Well.
Speaker 1: I listened to the to The one that I started
Speaker 1: on was the Tom Cruise Cipher one, which is like
Speaker 1: a really small thing, but it's so brilliant and how
Speaker 1: you structure it, it's like it's almost like a detective
Speaker 1: story and it's profound. It's profound because you go, here's
Speaker 1: the story that you know, here's everything you remember, and
Speaker 1: then here's the truth and here's a tiny detail that
Speaker 1: you didn't know that changes everything, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's pretty profound. What you're doing is it
Speaker 1: is that whole thing of there's the four versions of
Speaker 1: the story. You're version, their version, the truth and what
Speaker 1: really happened. And I feel like you're doing number four,
Speaker 1: or at least attempting to. That's the goal. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think I mean the Time Cruise on the Sofa
Speaker 1: one is such a great example because like, in order
Speaker 1: to talk about that, we have to talk about what
Speaker 1: technology existed at the time and how this was in
Speaker 1: this little moment in history when we could all know
Speaker 1: that that had happened, we could very widely circulate images
Speaker 1: or like little bits of the clip, but generally people
Speaker 1: saw it and still images that one around as I
Speaker 1: think how a lot of people remember it because it
Speaker 1: was just slightly before that would have gone viral as
Speaker 1: a YouTube video or a TikTok. Yeah. Yeah, And it's context.
Speaker 1: Everything is context always, and that's so it's context and presentation.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's really really you're really, you're really
Speaker 1: up to something. I think like I was even watching
Speaker 1: the video today and it was a nice video, like
Speaker 1: popped up on minu scrip. It was very lovely and
Speaker 1: it was a rescue dog with their owner and it
Speaker 1: was like day two of this recue dog with the owner.
Speaker 1: The rescue dog was just hugging the owner. It was
Speaker 1: really really like a lovely minute video. But the video
Speaker 1: also had classical music on it and it was edited
Speaker 1: and it was like a compilation. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that that isn't what happened, and that may have been
Speaker 1: the feeling of the thing, but I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: watching this lovely thing, but I'm also watching this tailored,
Speaker 1: edited lovely thing that isn't showing the dog pissing and shitting,
Speaker 1: and isn't you know whatever that isn't showing me the
Speaker 1: whole story, is showing me what the person wants me
Speaker 1: to see, which is is this lovely, beautiful thing. It's storytelling.
Speaker 1: Everyone is just telling a story, and you leave out
Speaker 1: what you want to leave out right and there and
Speaker 1: there's and that can be very sinister, and it can
Speaker 1: also be just completely innocent, because yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: just how humans absorbed and convey information. What made you
Speaker 1: so obsessedible is do you know there is there an
Speaker 1: inciting incident in your life? I mean, I'm definitely have
Speaker 1: always been the kind of person who has been like,
Speaker 1: really bothered by an accuracy. Um And I think I've
Speaker 1: really softened about this over time, weirdly considering the path
Speaker 1: that history has taken in the last few years. But
Speaker 1: I think actually making the show has allowed me to
Speaker 1: understand that, like, whenever anyone is trying to tell the truth,
Speaker 1: they are by definition telling their truth. And many things
Speaker 1: are so many things that we will sincerely believe happened
Speaker 1: because that's the best that we can access it, or
Speaker 1: that's what feels true. Um And Also, my memory has
Speaker 1: gotten worse as I've gotten older. I think kids have
Speaker 1: incredibly good memories, or at least I had a fantastic memory,
Speaker 1: and now I don't. But interesting, but I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: what's funny is that the first media sensation I can
Speaker 1: really remember clearly, it wasn't about a person. It was
Speaker 1: about Keiko the orca, who came to live on the
Speaker 1: Oregon Coast. On the Oregon Coast Aquarium after the events
Speaker 1: of Free Willy essentially predicted what was going to happen
Speaker 1: in his actual life. Do you know that story? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was so fascinating. I mean, have
Speaker 1: you seen have you seen Free Willie? To be firm
Speaker 1: with mister Blood from Reservoirs? Yeah, exactly, co starring with
Speaker 1: an orca and and so Free Willie Is was also
Speaker 1: filmed in Oregon. It was filmed as a few movies
Speaker 1: were at the time, and the sort of magical mystical
Speaker 1: geography where you're in a storia and then you're in
Speaker 1: Portland and then you're in a story again and you've
Speaker 1: just been walking around, which would be so great. And
Speaker 1: it's about a boy who befriends an orca and so
Speaker 1: in order to cast an Orca, they cast this organ
Speaker 1: named Keiko, who lived in a pretty small, like not
Speaker 1: adequate to his needs tank at an amusement park in
Speaker 1: I want to say Baja California again, that's my best guest,
Speaker 1: but like, I'm almost positive it was somewhere in Mexico
Speaker 1: and they filmed the movie. They filmed the Keiko scenes
Speaker 1: at the I think entirely at the water park where
Speaker 1: he lived, and then after it came out, everybody loved it.
Speaker 1: The little boy freeze the whale, The whale swims back
Speaker 1: out to see and finds his pod. I guess he's
Speaker 1: not a whale, but you know he's in Orca. See,
Speaker 1: I'm just making If I had heard myself at eight
Speaker 1: years old calling an a whale, I would have been
Speaker 1: very angry. And now as I'm saying that, I'm like,
Speaker 1: but are they a whale? They're related to dolphins, right.
Speaker 1: I guess The point is that nobody knows anything and
Speaker 1: we're all doing our best. But anyway, he's reunited with
Speaker 1: his family. And then the movie came out and everyone
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that wow, what a great movie. I'm
Speaker 1: very inspired. What happened to the whale to the orca
Speaker 1: who played free Willie, what's his situation And it was like, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's living in an adequate tank for his needs, just
Speaker 1: like in the movie before he was rescued by the
Speaker 1: Little Boy. And so it became just this year's long
Speaker 1: media saga that first he was moved to the Oregon
Speaker 1: Coast Aquarium and became this fantastic tourism draw for the
Speaker 1: aquarium and for the area, and then eventually was moved
Speaker 1: to Iceland and reintroduced to to the wild. But when
Speaker 1: I was in second grade, we went to see Keiko
Speaker 1: at the aquarium and it was my first experience of celebrity,
Speaker 1: and I think I always knew that like that that
Speaker 1: always stuck with me because it was just so weird.
Speaker 1: And I remember my own personal response was like everyone
Speaker 1: is looking at this orca and so I am going
Speaker 1: to ignore Keko because that fits some kind of weird
Speaker 1: kid logic need that I have to be unique or
Speaker 1: to be different, or you would trying to stand out
Speaker 1: from you. Why is she not into me? I must
Speaker 1: I think that's what I wanted, right, I think I
Speaker 1: wanted Keko to Yes, I think I was negging Keko
Speaker 1: and it was like even now, and I think even
Speaker 1: at the time, I was like, what a weird what
Speaker 1: just happened to me around this famous mammal? Did it work?
Speaker 1: Did Kea start swimming over to your side of the
Speaker 1: tag that talks of face? I don't. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think that my ploy didn't work, you know, But
Speaker 1: that was my first understanding of the fact that celebrity
Speaker 1: does really, really weird things to people. Sarah M I've
Speaker 1: forgotten to tell you something, and actually, god, I should
Speaker 1: probably like I should have told you this earlier. Fuck,
Speaker 1: I think you're going to be annoyed at See you've died.
Speaker 1: You're dead? Oh yeah, are you okay with that? I
Speaker 1: thought this might happen, you know, it's okay. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: did you die? I mean I've always assumed it would
Speaker 1: be vending machine death. Well, I'm stuck inside vending machine
Speaker 1: and I have to cut it off like one hundred
Speaker 1: or guess, like it falls straight on you because you're
Speaker 1: shaking it because the thing got stuck. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: was at the airport and I wanted the one thing
Speaker 1: I wanted was gummy worms, and then that's stuck in
Speaker 1: the thing. So yeah, but it was quick and you know,
Speaker 1: no regrets with lots of people around. Or was it
Speaker 1: a busy airport? Why am I picturing this happening at
Speaker 1: the Minneapolis Saint Paul Airport? I guess because I'm going
Speaker 1: there soon. M Yeah, so like busy airport, but like
Speaker 1: that's a nice airport to die, and it's not too chaotic.
Speaker 1: It's like nicely appointed. People are polite. You're you're not
Speaker 1: like fully enraged before you get crushed by a vending machine.
Speaker 1: Oh for gummy, do you worry about debt all the time?
Speaker 1: Talk to me. You've come to the right place. I mean,
Speaker 1: my worry. The main thing I worry about at this point, honestly,
Speaker 1: is that time feels like it's moving faster. And what
Speaker 1: I've heard is that it will keep feeling like it's
Speaker 1: moving faster as you get older and older. So, like,
Speaker 1: what if I live a very long life and I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm only you know, like, say I get
Speaker 1: to live until I'm eighty five and I'm thirty four,
Speaker 1: so say I'm like only I can't do math, but
Speaker 1: like I'm less than halfway through. What if the remaining
Speaker 1: fifty years actually only feel like twenty like that's the
Speaker 1: thing that most freaks me out. I've never thought about that. Oh,
Speaker 1: so that you're not halfway, you sort of arrive halfway
Speaker 1: because time is spade of time is increasing. And then
Speaker 1: I feel like the solution to that is like you
Speaker 1: have to learn mindfulness because I think time rushes by
Speaker 1: if like, if you let the minutes rush by, then
Speaker 1: the days will. But then like, yeah, so it's literally
Speaker 1: like death versus my YouTube habit, which is a weird situation. Christ,
Speaker 1: you've done it this time, You've really done it this time? Sorry,
Speaker 1: what do you think? What do you think it happens?
Speaker 1: Alhread you die? It's weird. It's so hard to imagine
Speaker 1: because I tend to assume that I won't have consciousness,
Speaker 1: So it's hard to imagine a lack of consciousness, Like
Speaker 1: I do the cliche thing of imagining just like darkness,
Speaker 1: but like when you go to sleep, you don't it's
Speaker 1: only dark until you're asleep. I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: that's part of the freaky thing of it is that there's,
Speaker 1: as far as I can tell, there's nothing that's remotely
Speaker 1: like it in our lives. Well, maybe sleep is a
Speaker 1: bit like it. I can see that it sleeps fucking weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's fucking weird that we sleep, and it's
Speaker 1: fucking weird what happens when we sleep. It's fucking weird.
Speaker 1: It is really weird. We don't reflect on this enough.
Speaker 1: It's really weird that we literally just like, like the
Speaker 1: needs of a human being are incredible. I was just
Speaker 1: thinking this morning. I was like, wait, I'm hungry now.
Speaker 1: I just made dinner last night and I'm hungry again.
Speaker 1: I have to feed myself again, and we fed because
Speaker 1: I have to switch yourself off. It's mad. You have
Speaker 1: to find a safe place to power down, so that
Speaker 1: like a place where no one will attack you while
Speaker 1: you're unconscious, like you know, really you have to know
Speaker 1: where that's going to be every twelve to twenty four
Speaker 1: hours or you're you know, like that's very high maintenance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and kids are fucking stupid for ages. Babies don't walk phrages.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're quite rubbish, interesting compared to an orca. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing, Keiko. Yeah, which I always remember because when
Speaker 1: this field stripe was happening, my dad, who's Australian, would say, Cake,
Speaker 1: you're going to see cake hole, and I was like,
Speaker 1: no cake at this time. I'm going to ignore her
Speaker 1: so much. I'm going to say I don't even gonna
Speaker 1: see it, and then she'll know, You'll know I was
Speaker 1: the special one. It's going to stay in the gift shop. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well I've got news for you. There's
Speaker 1: en afterlife and it isn't actually like when you sleep.
Speaker 1: It's more like heaven. And it's filled with your favorite thing.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing? Movies of course? Okay, Well, it's
Speaker 1: made out of those vhs sort of Disney VHS cases
Speaker 1: that used to get at quite thick and sort of
Speaker 1: play Warner Home Video as well, exactly like quite bouncy
Speaker 1: like plastic, and the chairs are made out the walls
Speaker 1: are made of that, and their screening rooms everywhere celluloid,
Speaker 1: you know, like that word clip that pops up on Microsoft.
Speaker 1: There's people walking around, but they're like just cands of celluloid. Anyway,
Speaker 1: everyone's really happy to see you. They're really excited, and
Speaker 1: they want to talk about your life, but they want
Speaker 1: to talk about your life through film. First thing they
Speaker 1: want to know is first question they have, what's the
Speaker 1: first film that you Sarah Mars you'll remember seeing. This
Speaker 1: is such a funny one to try and answer, because
Speaker 1: I have to try and think about it chronologically. Like
Speaker 1: I know, the first movie I saw in a theater
Speaker 1: was Beauty and the Beast, but I don't remember it.
Speaker 1: But what I do remember is my parents watching Batman Returns.
Speaker 1: Chad to have been in nineteen ninety four, and I
Speaker 1: remember it so well because I was terrified by the
Speaker 1: scene where Selena turns into Catwoman. So I think that's
Speaker 1: the first one watch starting at home. Well you've I
Speaker 1: mean you've you've started with two of my favorite films,
Speaker 1: Beauty and the Beast and Batman Returns. That is two
Speaker 1: absolute bangers. Wow, it's a good time for movies in
Speaker 1: many ways. Yeah, are you? And any child may ask, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so you wondered in your mum devil watching Batman Returns
Speaker 1: and you were frightened by the cat I think my
Speaker 1: parents just would let me watch whatever they happen to
Speaker 1: have on because I also remember watching The Piano when
Speaker 1: I was extremely young, and I think they were just like,
Speaker 1: she won't pay attention. I think they thought it was
Speaker 1: like having the dog in the room when you're watching
Speaker 1: the Piano. But I saw everything. Yeah, that's it's a
Speaker 1: hardcore film. Fingers get chopped off. There's sex. Yeahs Penis
Speaker 1: is all sort of going on a net and a piano.
Speaker 1: Harvey Kytel, who I continue to find attractive, so I
Speaker 1: feel like there might have been some imprinting. Nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with him. Batman Returns is the best Batman agree on
Speaker 1: the front. Yeah. And it's also such a great Christmas movie.
Speaker 1: Great Christmas movie. Everyone is doing peak performances, myself Ifer
Speaker 1: off the scale, Danny DeVito scary, who knew he could be? Scary? Terrifying?
Speaker 1: Michael Keagan coolest fact, Christoph Walkad, Yes, please, what a film?
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with it? Love it. Sarah Marshall, great name.
Speaker 1: But were annoyed when forgetting Sarah Musky out? Is that
Speaker 1: problem for you? Yes, because I was like, god, damn it,
Speaker 1: I have this whole plan for world domination in Jason
Speaker 1: Siegel has like beaten me to the first impression. It's
Speaker 1: trying to get you. Your name is raised, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: no one forgets the name. That's true. Well, it's funny.
Speaker 1: I was watched I Saw Men the other day and
Speaker 1: I really liked it. A lot of people have hated it.
Speaker 1: It met all of my needs as a horror fan.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see it really really gross finale. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it ate out of ten from me. But the main
Speaker 1: character is named Harper Marlowe, and I remember being like,
Speaker 1: that's like, that's such a cheesy fictional character name that
Speaker 1: they have like a recurring like r R sound, And
Speaker 1: I was like, Sarah, you literally have that name. You
Speaker 1: are that fictional character name? That's any funny? Speaking of horror,
Speaker 1: what's the film that scared you? Demist? It seems you
Speaker 1: like being scared, do you? I do? I wish I
Speaker 1: had an answer, a different answer for this question throughout
Speaker 1: my life, but it's the Texas Chansaw Massacre. I saw
Speaker 1: it when I was fifteen or sixteen, and nothing has
Speaker 1: ever come close since. And I've seen it many times
Speaker 1: and it still works and the original of course. Why
Speaker 1: do you like horror films? Do you think? I only
Speaker 1: ask because so many people don't. I love them, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think everyone's got different take on it. Why
Speaker 1: do you like them? Yeah? So many people don't. It's
Speaker 1: funny because like I don't really like reality TV, like
Speaker 1: if I'm with people who are watching it, or if
Speaker 1: we can become invested in, like a season of a show.
Speaker 1: I get into it, but to me, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I get why people like it, I just don't like
Speaker 1: having my time wasted to that extent because like it
Speaker 1: goes on for so long. They like stretch out the
Speaker 1: material so much, and like an episode of The Bachelor,
Speaker 1: I feel like is longer than most horror movies, more horrific.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah in many ways, and right because because
Speaker 1: a lot of that creeping tansion is never resolved in
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. But right, and I mean one thing is
Speaker 1: a horror movies very rarely waste your time. Like I
Speaker 1: think average horror movie length is about eighty minutes. Yea,
Speaker 1: they get in, they get out. There's a million of
Speaker 1: them because they're not that expensive to make. So there's
Speaker 1: better odds that you're going to find something weird or
Speaker 1: experimental or that caters to your specific needs as an
Speaker 1: audience member. But that's all. That's not that persuasive. I mean,
Speaker 1: can you watch The Money You're right? Yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: love that, And it's actually that's easier for me than
Speaker 1: watching any other kind of movie. I think, because horror, like,
Speaker 1: if it's working, it's easy to stay focused. You don't
Speaker 1: want to step away and miss something you want to
Speaker 1: It's easier for me to be submerged in that world.
Speaker 1: And I think I like being scared for the same
Speaker 1: reason I like spicy food, Like it's a little bit counterintuitive,
Speaker 1: It's like, why would we like to cause pain in ourselves?
Speaker 1: And yet to me, the experience of eating like a
Speaker 1: really spicy dish is like it starts to happen, and
Speaker 1: then it's happening, and then you're like weeping and drinking
Speaker 1: water and you're like in the grips of them this
Speaker 1: over sensation that's bigger than whatever was going on for
Speaker 1: you before, and you're just I think being forced to
Speaker 1: focus as part of it. I think I often have
Speaker 1: talked about how I think horror can be great for
Speaker 1: people with anxiety. It's great for me partly because it's like,
Speaker 1: and this is also why I specifically love the Final
Speaker 1: Destination movies, is that I'm always trying to sort of
Speaker 1: play three dimensional chest to figure out how something could
Speaker 1: go horribly wrong. So it's like the movie is like,
Speaker 1: they're there, let us do it. We'll tell you how
Speaker 1: it could go horribly wrong, and we'll do a better
Speaker 1: job than you could and then and your brain just
Speaker 1: gets a break. It's like there's this little hamster wheel
Speaker 1: that gets to stop spinning for a couple of hours
Speaker 1: because the big hamster is in charge. But also I
Speaker 1: think it's probably like good for people maybe with ADHD,
Speaker 1: which I also definitely have a lot of, because you
Speaker 1: just it's easier to just be thinking about and looking
Speaker 1: at one thing. And yeah, I think it's because it
Speaker 1: feels like it takes me out of my brain, and
Speaker 1: like my brain is often a more unpleasant place to
Speaker 1: be than whatever movie I want to watch. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a great that's a really good answer. I think they
Speaker 1: can serve a good purpose in the world. Well, the
Speaker 1: text is fucking horrible. I really it's very unpleasant. It is.
Speaker 1: It's it's so good at what it does, which is
Speaker 1: to be horrible. Yeah, what's the film that made you
Speaker 1: cry the most? And now you a crier? I am
Speaker 1: a crier. I'm a giant crier, town crier, I am
Speaker 1: the town crier. Um. What's funny is that when I
Speaker 1: was like, this is the question that makes me think
Speaker 1: of Titanic, and yet I know that that's not the
Speaker 1: answer for me. I was one of the seventy five
Speaker 1: people who saw The Fall when it was in theatrical release,
Speaker 1: and and I was fat, and I remember going back
Speaker 1: to see it multiple times, hardly because it made me
Speaker 1: cry so much. Like I was in at the end
Speaker 1: of some sort of a period where like there have
Speaker 1: been some kind of a blocking somehow, and I hadn't
Speaker 1: cried in a really long time, and it was some
Speaker 1: sort of I still don't really couldn't really say why.
Speaker 1: I haven't walked in a long time, but it was
Speaker 1: this gigantic emotional release and that was like my crying
Speaker 1: movie of the decade. How can you even describe that movie? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why that one? Do you think in particular? I mean,
Speaker 1: I love it, but it's quite an unusual choice. Do
Speaker 1: you know what it was about it? Yeah? And it's
Speaker 1: also like I struggled to even say what it was about.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's essentially like Lee Pace is a silent
Speaker 1: movie actor. He's I think broken his back trying to
Speaker 1: do a stunt. So he's recovering in a hospital where
Speaker 1: he's friends with this little girl who's hanging out for
Speaker 1: reasons I forget. I think she's also there because she
Speaker 1: has a broken arm, and he starts telling her this
Speaker 1: allegorical story that it and this is by the director
Speaker 1: of The Cell, So it's like The Cell, but with
Speaker 1: most serial killers. And so I think it was just
Speaker 1: I don't know, I would describe it as like just
Speaker 1: that maybe the sheer overwhelm of the visuals combined with
Speaker 1: the music, because it really prominently features Beethoven's Seventh Symphony,
Speaker 1: I think, and I don't know, it's just it's a
Speaker 1: great example of I think what movies can do, which
Speaker 1: is just to sort of like provide this sensory experience
Speaker 1: that kind of runs into you like a freight train.
Speaker 1: And like, I'm sure there was stuff about the story
Speaker 1: that I connected with and had that effect on me,
Speaker 1: but I yeah, I mean, I mean, I think I'm
Speaker 1: actually afraid to go back to it because what if
Speaker 1: it's not as effective now? And you know, that's always
Speaker 1: a fear. Sounds like it was like the dream of it,
Speaker 1: like with a David Lynch film or something. You're just, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't, you know, I raise ahead, I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you why it's so fucking scary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I found that I'm so terrifying, and I cannot really
Speaker 1: tell you why other than I felt absolutely scared it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's because something you're fully, fully inside of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's a film that most people don't like. It wasn't
Speaker 1: critically acclaimed, but you love it. You don't care what
Speaker 1: they say. I mean, this is a tough one because
Speaker 1: there are a lot of movies that I love that
Speaker 1: I know are bad. Like I know show Girls is
Speaker 1: a bad movie. We know that about it, but we
Speaker 1: know it's good as well, I don't we do. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a classic. Yeah, it's definitely. It's there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on. But I mean one where I feel kind
Speaker 1: of genuinely surprised by people's reaction to m is Flashdance,
Speaker 1: which also is a Joe Ester Haws film. And I
Speaker 1: first saw it, I think when I was thirteen, so
Speaker 1: like kind of the perfect age to first see it.
Speaker 1: And I think there's just like, I know, the story
Speaker 1: falls apart. I know it's a symptom of like Joe
Speaker 1: aster Haas's inability to write women, um or anyone really
Speaker 1: and like the whole it's just like such an absurd
Speaker 1: kind of ninety minute long music video. And yet on
Speaker 1: the other hand, it's a ninety minute long music video.
Speaker 1: Yeah you guys, a bucket Woods undermastn it. I mean
Speaker 1: it's still good stuff. It's just like they're Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like people are left cold by it or it's
Speaker 1: become a little bit of a punct liner. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like people don't really watch it anymore. Like people
Speaker 1: really they still watch Dirty Dancing. I think they still
Speaker 1: watch the Goonies, but I feel like Flashdance is like
Speaker 1: iconic without being watched as much by people as other
Speaker 1: kind of classics of the time. But it's just it's
Speaker 1: like some kind of esthetic peak that just is beautiful
Speaker 1: to behold. And just you know, I just I do.
Speaker 1: I love any movie where people like characters walk into
Speaker 1: this movie and they don't even say hello, they just
Speaker 1: launched right into a monologue about how they did or
Speaker 1: didn't give up on their dream. That's very good. On
Speaker 1: the other hand, what's a film that you used to
Speaker 1: love but if what's recently and you've gone I don't
Speaker 1: like this anymore. Yeah, guy, Okay, people are going to
Speaker 1: fight me on this, but I think that like The
Speaker 1: Lion King, while being beautiful and having amazing music and
Speaker 1: being so important to a generation has a completely meaningless story.
Speaker 1: Whoa Jesus Christ? What is happening here? I know what
Speaker 1: the story of Hamlet is meaning this, It might be well, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: one of the key features there, but I mean specifically,
Speaker 1: and this is partly this is me displaying a grudge
Speaker 1: against Jeffrey Katzenberg. And I know that, and you can
Speaker 1: take it that way because that is true. But Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Katzenberg has said, like, this is a movie that was
Speaker 1: so important to him personally because it reflects his life
Speaker 1: and his experience, and I just feel like I know
Speaker 1: exactly and I and I don't know what that's about,
Speaker 1: but I think I assume that in a generic way,
Speaker 1: it's about like having to step up and kind of
Speaker 1: step into manhood for whatever combination of reasons, or about
Speaker 1: acknowledging that Michael Eisner will never love you or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like, but the I mean the story,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, maybe that did happen to Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Katzenberg and that's why he can't launch a good streaming service. Um,
Speaker 1: that's why you know. It's like it's there's so many
Speaker 1: wonderful elements to it, but to me, the kind of
Speaker 1: the overarching stories, like Simba has to come home and
Speaker 1: rule the Pride Lands, and he's qualified to do this
Speaker 1: because he's the protagonist. And yeah, well he's also it
Speaker 1: is a big, beautiful name. Yeah, and he's he's all
Speaker 1: grown up. But just like you know, it's it's part
Speaker 1: of the thing. I feel like Nala could have done
Speaker 1: a great job. You know, she's kind of she's been
Speaker 1: around this whole year. Sure she could, but did she
Speaker 1: want it? That's the problem. She didn't even put herself
Speaker 1: forward for it. And I'm not saying it happened in
Speaker 1: a world where there wasn't the opportunity for her. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's the issue. Yeah, maybe she wants to focus on
Speaker 1: her art. Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. She could have
Speaker 1: done the job, but she never spoke up about it.
Speaker 1: And that's part of the problem with the culture with
Speaker 1: the lan Cake. It's true, it's well and also just
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a problem when you're and this is
Speaker 1: true of a lot of Disney move Maybe it's not
Speaker 1: a problem, it's just it's a feature of some kind
Speaker 1: when like your most lovable memorable character is the villain
Speaker 1: and where we're like, yeah, he's he's bad at ruling
Speaker 1: the pride Lands. But what a song? Yeah, banging song
Speaker 1: he does get so. Yeah. So what is the film
Speaker 1: that means the mice to you? Not because the film
Speaker 1: itself is any good, but because the experience you had
Speaker 1: watching the film always makes it special. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of choices possible for this one, but to me,
Speaker 1: the answer is Candy Man, because the original. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I And when I was in college, I took a
Speaker 1: class to fulfill my credit requirement for my English major
Speaker 1: that was on vampires and film, and I was taught
Speaker 1: by a wonderful professor named Grace Styllan, And so I
Speaker 1: think we probably watched a scene from Candy Man, and
Speaker 1: I became so fascinated by it that I then watched
Speaker 1: it and watched it again, and I remember just like
Speaker 1: feeling conscious that there was some kind of a very
Speaker 1: overt symbolism at play there, and feeling like I needed,
Speaker 1: like I loved how it was structured like a fairy
Speaker 1: tale in a way, and I felt like I needed
Speaker 1: to sort of like I had grown up feeling that
Speaker 1: having to write about novels and stories and things was
Speaker 1: a way of ruining them. And this was the first
Speaker 1: time that I felt like, no, like, it is very
Speaker 1: important that I try. And I remember writing this like
Speaker 1: like thirty page paper on Candy Man, just like trying
Speaker 1: to use academic language that I really couldn't couldn't use
Speaker 1: that well at the time, but just feeling like just
Speaker 1: like I needed to express my thoughts on Candy Man,
Speaker 1: and that, you know, I think as a direct result
Speaker 1: of that, I ended up going to grad school and
Speaker 1: I was in academia for literature for several years, and
Speaker 1: that's you know, completely baked into everything that I do now.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was Candy Now what really does relate
Speaker 1: to again, like so many things, but I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: a lot of kind of teenage age experiences, I guess
Speaker 1: because this is when the responses are so powerful. But
Speaker 1: I remember watching Dead Poets Society as a teenager and
Speaker 1: just having one of those like this is me now moments,
Speaker 1: and specifically with the Josh Charles character who like falls
Speaker 1: madly in love with a random girl and like bursts
Speaker 1: into her classroom to read a poem to her and
Speaker 1: is just like, yes, like I am going to give
Speaker 1: myself over to be completely animated by big feelings. And
Speaker 1: I think that was really what I saw in myself
Speaker 1: in that movie was just sort of the teenage experience
Speaker 1: of like seeking out big feelings because I and like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a lot of teenage girl characters
Speaker 1: who do that, but I think they're harder to find.
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, until women write, female
Speaker 1: characters were going to exist much more as like somebody
Speaker 1: to be one over or not. Yeah, that I was.
Speaker 1: That felt like a model for child feeling. Fully. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am, Josh Charles. Can you see that? I totally
Speaker 1: get that. What's the sexiest film ever made? Sary mysel.
Speaker 1: So this is what I just saw recently. Um, I
Speaker 1: think it's the age of innocence. Oh and just like
Speaker 1: because many things are sexy, but I think that it's
Speaker 1: extremely sexy for two people to just be like wanting
Speaker 1: each other for decades and to not be able to
Speaker 1: ever extinguish that flame. And you've got Missiel favit, so
Speaker 1: you've won, You've won the battle already. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: great film that just undress her hand, just take it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't dress the hand and their foot does the
Speaker 1: undress effort? About my dad? Is it just a hand?
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but I remember the hand I lovely
Speaker 1: hand out. It's also that film has got such a
Speaker 1: good twist at the end. Yeah, great film. There's subcategories
Speaker 1: to this question, Sarah Marshall. Yeah, I don't know to
Speaker 1: have it that well, but I'm afraid here we are
Speaker 1: troubling bund is worrying why dons a filmy funder browsing
Speaker 1: that you weren't sure you should have? Okay, so I
Speaker 1: can't be the only one here, but I think that
Speaker 1: Bill Paxson's character in Near Dark is a hot, hot
Speaker 1: hottie and every like every time he does anything, which
Speaker 1: is mostly being a vampire, I just he's I'm so
Speaker 1: attracted to that character, and he would just immediately drink
Speaker 1: my blood and without any like poetry about it either,
Speaker 1: he would just go from just challenging it. I thought
Speaker 1: you're gonna say Bill Packson in Weird Science. Now I's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, yeah, that is trouble. Oh yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: not so much. A little bit of aliens. He's got
Speaker 1: some charm and aliens. Yeah, that's a lovely You could
Speaker 1: absolutely have that, Sarah Machio. Objectively, what is the greatest
Speaker 1: film of all time? Might not be your favorite but
Speaker 1: it's the pinnacle full film. If I'm gonna make it
Speaker 1: easy for myself, I'll say greatest of all time horror category,
Speaker 1: great returns on minimal budget category. I would say the
Speaker 1: Texas Jansaw Massacre because it is this incredible act of
Speaker 1: alchemy where like just all these young people who didn't
Speaker 1: really know what they were doing came together and made
Speaker 1: incredible art. Gosh, best of all time, you know what. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to say Paris, Texas, and that's just a
Speaker 1: complete I'm just just going for it. There are a
Speaker 1: million reasons why I could second guess that, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Paris, Texas. Why Paris Texas for you?
Speaker 1: I think because it's a Western in a way, which
Speaker 1: if we're talking about kind of greatest American film, which
Speaker 1: is kind of the only thing I can speak on,
Speaker 1: it's like honoring and subverting that tradition, and it's not
Speaker 1: done by an American director, and so you can kind
Speaker 1: of fully see all the way around all the corners.
Speaker 1: I think of what the Western is and see it
Speaker 1: a little bit more objectively. It's about men and love
Speaker 1: and intimacy and sort of family falling apart. And coming together.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, it has beautiful music. It's put together in
Speaker 1: a way that makes it more than the sum of
Speaker 1: its parts. And I think it's also just it sort
Speaker 1: of like I think maybe the kind of pinnacle for
Speaker 1: me and you can get this a lot of different
Speaker 1: ways is just to be fully immersed and to have
Speaker 1: that experience, whether you can see it in a theater
Speaker 1: or not. But the kind of that to me kind
Speaker 1: of highest high point of moviegoing experience of the lights
Speaker 1: come up and you're like where am I? Who am I? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's just fully disorienting in that way, like you
Speaker 1: come back into your body at the end, and then
Speaker 1: you feel, Yeah, it's the pursuit of big feelings. I
Speaker 1: guess love it. What is the film that you could
Speaker 1: or have? What's the most over and over again? Sarah Marshall.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably Aaron Brockovich because that's been my
Speaker 1: they feel good movie for like ten years. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: watched it probably fifty times. That's a nice one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I always remember about that is how how
Speaker 1: bloody classy The end of the trial is that you
Speaker 1: don't get this big courtroom thing, you just telling one
Speaker 1: person Is that right? I do that? Yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 1: go choose the person it all started with, and an
Speaker 1: Aaron Eckart gets to be like, Okay, I guess I
Speaker 1: do see like something important was happening while I was babysitting. Yeah, ah,
Speaker 1: what a nice I'd say, what's the We don't like
Speaker 1: to be negative, Sarah Marshall. What's the worst film you've
Speaker 1: ever seen? Okay, High Tension? The French horror movie? You
Speaker 1: seen that one? Yeah, what is it? I don't think
Speaker 1: I have seen it, and I've forgotten what it is.
Speaker 1: Tell me what it is. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: this is the spoilers. Um. So, it's like these two
Speaker 1: French girls, actually one of them is American but whatever,
Speaker 1: and they're going to the one of the girls family
Speaker 1: house for a weekend or something, and then this trucker
Speaker 1: shows up, the scary trucker rapist guy, and he kills
Speaker 1: the family and he's chasing the girls, and like the
Speaker 1: friend who's the main character, is like chasing after him.
Speaker 1: She's going to take him down and she's going to
Speaker 1: save her friend. And then the twist reveal at the
Speaker 1: end is that she was the trucker. The entire time,
Speaker 1: it's like Nicholas Cage's stupid script and adaptation. Yes that
Speaker 1: she was also the trucker and she killed everyone and
Speaker 1: she's a crazy and evil because she's a lesbian. And
Speaker 1: this movie came out like we watched it when I
Speaker 1: was in college, and I think it was pretty recent,
Speaker 1: so I think it came out in the early two thousands.
Speaker 1: And it's just like it's like like the twist, it's
Speaker 1: like a full wammy, Like the twist is really stupid.
Speaker 1: It invalidates everything you've experienced. And it's really homophobic. Wow,
Speaker 1: very bad. Do not watch? Okay, fuck, I won't. Was
Speaker 1: was that great title? Yeah? High tension? Highly offensive? What
Speaker 1: is the funniest film? Was the film that made you
Speaker 1: laugh the most? This one is like, this is hard.
Speaker 1: This was the hardest one for me to think of
Speaker 1: for some reason. And I feel like, I like, I
Speaker 1: have to assume that it's missus doubtfire, like just thinking
Speaker 1: about like the the years of it being funny for
Speaker 1: me and kind of the thing that I've most like
Speaker 1: the Robin Williams movie that I watched the most. I
Speaker 1: was thinking about it and like this one is the
Speaker 1: hardest to remember. But I was like, it's probably a
Speaker 1: Robin Williams movie, and so that makes me eliminated down
Speaker 1: to Missus Doubtfire. I haven't watched it in many, many years.
Speaker 1: Does it hold up, does it have any Is it fine?
Speaker 1: I think I mean it, Yeah, it definitely does. Like
Speaker 1: in some ways you're like, oh no, mainly like the
Speaker 1: like the oldest kid's reaction when he finds Missus Doubtfire
Speaker 1: peeing standing up like that. I think his aged especially
Speaker 1: badly that moment, but like to me in general, like
Speaker 1: and I feel the same way about Titsy, and I
Speaker 1: think people, you know, there's probably like a whole big
Speaker 1: range of opinions on this, but I feel like they're
Speaker 1: both movies about like men having to live as women
Speaker 1: making them better men, which I think like seems true
Speaker 1: as a concept then probably would be true for anybody. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the concept makes sense. Sarah Marshall, you have been excellent. However,
Speaker 1: when you were at Minnesota Airport next week and it
Speaker 1: wasn't that busy and you weren't that stressed, and for
Speaker 1: an airport experience, you actually haven't quite a nice time,
Speaker 1: and you got through, you know, the security bit, you
Speaker 1: got through the worst bit, and you were like about
Speaker 1: to relax. There was a whole row of chairs available
Speaker 1: for you to sit on. Air conditioning was set just right,
Speaker 1: and you thought, you know what, you know what, this
Speaker 1: needs gummy worms. And you went to a machine and
Speaker 1: you had enough coins. You put the coins in and
Speaker 1: then the gummy worms. The rotating thing with rotating a bit,
Speaker 1: and the gummy wins felt but just against the glass
Speaker 1: stayed up top, and you were like fuck, and so
Speaker 1: you started like shaking it a bit. It was very heavy.
Speaker 1: People were looking at you and you're like, don't mind me,
Speaker 1: I'm happy, go luck it. And you were shaking it.
Speaker 1: You're shaking it and you were like, I mean love
Speaker 1: with an abusing rowing, he said, And they said, okay,
Speaker 1: she seems fine. And then you shook it so hard.
Speaker 1: You shook it one way and shook it the other way.
Speaker 1: But it's very heavy, this vending machine. It was filled
Speaker 1: with gold and it fell onto you backwards. You landed
Speaker 1: on the ground. The machine went straight onto it crushed
Speaker 1: all your internal organs and your outer organs, and your
Speaker 1: face and your skull and most of your bones. All
Speaker 1: the people that were sat around on the other chairs
Speaker 1: were like Jesus Christ. That was a shock. And then
Speaker 1: as an announcement came on and said the flight leaving
Speaker 1: for New Yorkers even now, and they went, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we should probably get get our plane. And so most
Speaker 1: people were left and I was walking past with a
Speaker 1: coffin which I just got through security, which surprised me
Speaker 1: because it was filled with drugs. I emptied the drivers like,
Speaker 1: oh who she is? I lift up, I get some
Speaker 1: security guys, I get one of them cars. We lift
Speaker 1: up the vending machine and you are You're almost liquid.
Speaker 1: The good news is it doesn't look like you spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time dying. It feels like I'm pretty quick.
Speaker 1: But I have to get a hoover industrial sort of
Speaker 1: vacuum suck up all the pulp and there were just
Speaker 1: little bits left over. You. But there's a lot of goo,
Speaker 1: if I may no disrespect, but that's what it feels like.
Speaker 1: And then I pump it all into the coff but
Speaker 1: I am really yeah, it's the big pile of goot.
Speaker 1: It's a let of goo, lovely goo, nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 1: We're all made of it. Pup the goo into the
Speaker 1: coffin and it's faulk It's like a swimming pool in there,
Speaker 1: swimming pool the goo googol goo coffin. There's really no
Speaker 1: room in this coffin now. There's only enough for room
Speaker 1: to put one DVD, slip it in the side of
Speaker 1: the goo, let it float on top, and for you
Speaker 1: to take across to the other side. And on the
Speaker 1: other side. There's a movie night every night. What film
Speaker 1: are you taking to show the celluloid creatures of heaven
Speaker 1: when it's your movie night, Sarah Marshall. So, I just
Speaker 1: saw this the other day for the first time in
Speaker 1: a movie theater that was showing it for one night.
Speaker 1: I would bring tampopo because I think that it would
Speaker 1: appeal like I would enjoy watching it many times in eternity.
Speaker 1: And also I feel like it's like exactly the sense
Speaker 1: of humor that people in heaven would probably have or
Speaker 1: various parts of the afterworld. It's a fancy answer, yeah,
Speaker 1: a fancy answer. So nice to have a fancy films
Speaker 1: up there, Sarah Marshall. We shall not forget you. Is
Speaker 1: there anything you would like to tell anyone to look
Speaker 1: out for or listen to? Then you're incredible. You're wrong
Speaker 1: about podcast, which I highly Yeah, I'm fond of it.
Speaker 1: I recommend that show. And then I have another show,
Speaker 1: You Are Good, a feelings podcast about movies, which you
Speaker 1: should come on anytime. But we would only talk about
Speaker 1: one movie as opposed to many movies. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: what I don't know, but it's I mean, we try
Speaker 1: and go seasonally with our picks, but it's the same.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think our focus is like like
Speaker 1: we probably we wouldn't do Tam Popo. That would probably
Speaker 1: be too like not sort of widely known enough by
Speaker 1: people already. So we I think we do a lot
Speaker 1: of movies that like people already like but maybe don't
Speaker 1: feel like they have reasons for liking, and we're like,
Speaker 1: here's why you like this movie, and try and you know,
Speaker 1: have on somebody to talk about something that they love.
Speaker 1: I think, like when I don't really know, when I
Speaker 1: doubt everything about what I'm doing, I always remember that,
Speaker 1: like I'm making tones among other stuff. And if you
Speaker 1: can hear people talking for an hour about something they
Speaker 1: care about and something they love and it isn't like
Speaker 1: related to white supremacy, then like you're putting in, you're
Speaker 1: putting good tones out there. It's like reverse pollution. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I recommend I believe that. That's great. That's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well, thank you Sarah mar So. You've been brilliant.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your time, and I hope you have
Speaker 1: a wonderful death and see you soon. Take care, see
Speaker 1: you at the movies, see you there. So that was
Speaker 1: the episode two hundred and nine. Head over to the
Speaker 1: Patreon at patreon dot com, forward slash break Goalstein for
Speaker 1: the extra chat, secrets, video openings, closings, the lot. It's
Speaker 1: all there. You'll love it at Patreon dot com, Forward
Speaker 1: slash break Goalstein. Thank you so much to Sarah for
Speaker 1: giving me her time. Thanks to Scrubius Pit and the
Speaker 1: Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks to Body Piece for producing it,
Speaker 1: Thanks to a Gas for hosting it. Thanks to Adam
Speaker 1: Richardson for the graphics. At least a laid them for
Speaker 1: the photography. Come and join me next week for another
Speaker 1: Banger guest. But that is it for now. In the meantime,
Speaker 1: I hope you're all well. Thank you for listening. I
Speaker 1: hope things are good with you all. Have a lovely week,
Speaker 1: and please now more than ever, be excellent to each other.
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