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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli he is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and August the start of hour number two here.

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Speaker 3: So it's time for the Fantasy Football Focus and before

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Speaker 3: we get into this week's or this weekend's DFS lineup,

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Speaker 3: our DFS lineup last night, how do we do we

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Speaker 3: had in the money? We're finished in the money nice

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Speaker 3: one hundred and three point nine to two points, which

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Speaker 3: doesn't sound like a lot, but we only you only

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Speaker 3: get six players.

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Speaker 1: I'd say it's a little different with that.

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Speaker 3: It's a little different with that format. We had Laporta

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Speaker 3: in the captain's chair. He got us fifteen points, six points,

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Speaker 3: five catches for fifty four yards, and he's looking like

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Speaker 3: he's fantasy relevant again.

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Speaker 1: I think they've I think actually the coaches have come

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Speaker 1: out in recent weeks saying we got away from him

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Speaker 1: too much earlier in the year. You know, he's a

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Speaker 1: really good player. I mean, don't abandon that ship at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we all so had Josh Jacobs and his three

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Speaker 3: touchdowns in the line up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nice. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff was another nice start there. Jamior Gibbs was

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Speaker 3: didn't have huge rushing tolls, but he got six passes,

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Speaker 3: he had nineteen point three points. We had Dave Montgomery threw.

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Speaker 1: A touchdown of Gibbs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the Lions defense that rounded out our lineup.

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Speaker 3: So we finished in the money, which was good. You

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Speaker 3: always liked to do.

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Speaker 1: A big thing that helped us was avoiding the Packers

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Speaker 1: passing game. Not that it was horrible, but it was

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Speaker 1: one of the weaknesses in that game.

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Speaker 3: We could have if we had paid up for a

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Speaker 3: Monross Saint Brown, that might have yeah, a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, once we thought about it, right, Yeah, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: So let's try to do that now for the weekend. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and take a look here at the defense and special teams.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles are thirty seven hundred, the Buccaneers thirty six hundred,

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Speaker 3: Steelers are thirty five hundred, Vikings thirty four hundred, the

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Speaker 3: Bills against the Rams or thirty three hundred, the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: against the Chargers thirty two, Dolphins against the Jets thirty

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Speaker 3: two hundred not bad. Forty nine Ers against the Bears

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Speaker 3: thirty one hundred. The Bengals against Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Bengals against any three thousands, right, I don't their

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Speaker 1: favored by like six points. I don't understand it at all.

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Speaker 3: The Cardinals against the Seahawks is three thousand. The Saints

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Speaker 3: against the Giants is twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was waiting for. Yeah, I like that

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Speaker 1: Neighbors is questionable. They're a disaster. I don't think they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that one a lot.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee's another one. I'd be interested to hear what they cost.

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Speaker 3: Tennessee is twenty eight hundred, so it's not much savings.

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Speaker 3: I think you plugged the Saints in.

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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely fine with that. That that was my plan

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Speaker 1: before we even different is good and no. If Neighbors

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see them scoring a lot of points.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna run something by you. Here is a

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Speaker 1: different approach to our building our roster, because I think

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Speaker 1: this week we've come up with more potential super cheap

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Speaker 1: non quarterbacks, tight ends, receivers, the Dude in Vegas, the

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Speaker 1: Raiders running back maybe we can find a couple real dirt,

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Speaker 1: cheap guys and then go strong after that. Okay, I say,

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen is eight thousand, Jalen Hurts seventy eight hundred,

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow seventy three hundred, Patrick Mahomes sixty eight hundred,

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield sixty four hundred, Tuattago Vlois sixty three hundred,

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Speaker 1: High win that game, big yeah.

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray six thousand, Russell Wilson fifty nine hundred, Gino

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Speaker 3: Mac Jones is five thousand, Will Levis is five thousand,

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Speaker 1: Thirty second. Yeah, you could convince me of that.

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Speaker 3: Cooper Rush is forty nine hundred against the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: The Niners defense is a shell of itself. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're so banged up. Boss not Conlain. He throws and runs.

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Speaker 3: I like Caleb Williams. I like that call because I

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Speaker 1: For him is he's playing a little better. He's got weapons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right now they're gonna start there and the running backs

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Speaker 3: Let's let's plug him in for anouncie where you know,

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Speaker 3: if we have some money leftover, we can always pivot

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Speaker 3: upwards at running back.

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Speaker 1: Now, the flaw in my cheapy plan.

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Speaker 3: Let's go tight end first.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't remember all the ones we've mentioned, but

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Speaker 1: over the course of this week, more than most weeks

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Speaker 1: we've talked about, like our Scoon Maker call last week

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Speaker 3: Brock Bowers is sixty five hundred. McBride is sixty one hundred,

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Speaker 3: Kittle fifty eight hundred, Kelsey fifty five hundred, Johnny Smith.

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Speaker 1: Was top two. Are kind of cheap for being as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not Kelsey range priced when Kelsey was.

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Speaker 1: Right and Bowers probably should be.

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Speaker 3: Johnny Smith is fifty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, he commits me of that.

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Speaker 3: Uh and Djoku is fifty one hundred. Kincaid's question. While

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Speaker 3: he's forty nine hundred. Evan Ingram is forty eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: But still not respect it. He's a good player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hockinson is forty three hundred. Kyle Pitts forty one hundred,

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Speaker 1: Are they really Yeah, he could be the number two option.

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Speaker 1: There's a chance that might be number one. Doesn't Conky

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Speaker 1: we don't go down this road. But the Saints dude

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Speaker 1: Jahn Johnson, Yeah, he didn't mention it.

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Speaker 3: Man's thirty eight hundred. His role's growing coming on. Cole

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Speaker 3: They're thirty second again tight end. Yeah, I think they

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Speaker 3: hold him out. Calciterara could be a.

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Speaker 1: He are the type of guys I was talking about

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Speaker 1: the start segment. There's a lot of this week. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of dudes that could give opportunities that aren't

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Speaker 3: Juwan Johnson is thirty four hundred. But the Giants, believe

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Speaker 3: Wows no figure. Yeah, Noah Gray thirty four hundred. He

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Speaker 3: lot of touchdown Jatavian Sanders is questionable. He's thirty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: Ag. I think one of these cheap guys like this

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Speaker 1: Ley or cheaper make a lot of sense. And that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean we can't come back. And but brought hours

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I kind of like aught In too.

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Speaker 1: Notton was cheap too. I mean he's their number two receiver.

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Speaker 3: Is last game he still got he had four catches

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Speaker 1: Say he gets targeted a lot.

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Speaker 3: Gets six home games, he's got forty seven targets. That's

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Speaker 1: Playing again, someone terrible they play? Uh uh, where's it

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Speaker 1: they win huge in that game too. Let's start with

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Speaker 3: Let's see here we want to go. Uh, let's look

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the names. Allen was one to

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Speaker 3: Let's plug him in. If we find somebody else will

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Speaker 3: be like even better. We can always what what's Gorendo cost?

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Speaker 3: Whatrendo should be really chalky?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? What does the Raiders dude cost?

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Speaker 3: Let's see it. I'm just gonna jump down to the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, go like five grand under. I don't

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Speaker 3: Grendo's fifty four hundred.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be the number one.

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Speaker 3: And the uh Sincere McCormick is forty six hundred.

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Speaker 3: another one. Yeah, he's forty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: I think White's gonna He'll touch him for sure, But

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Speaker 3: He doesn't get the goal line carries or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Even when they play by fourteen in the sea, White's

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Speaker 1: only fifty three hundred. Yeah, they must have thought Irving's playing.

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Speaker 1: We know, we don't know he isn't, but he doesn't

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Speaker 3: I like Tyrone Tracy at fifty eight hundred. Yes, even

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Speaker 3: though it's against our defense, he still he's still Giants

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Speaker 1: The football in that game, and they'll catch a ball

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Speaker 3: Grendo at fifty four hundred again, any of these, Sean

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Speaker 3: White is fifty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: He'll catch the ball.

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Speaker 3: Raiders, well, see if they have a designation on Bucky

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Speaker 3: Irving on here, Bucky Irving is questionable. He's sixty six hundred.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't looked good from what I've heard.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean he didn't practice again today. You

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Speaker 1: Is that the one you would go with? Our Tucker?

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Speaker 3: Go with White? And if where we go with Grendo

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Speaker 3: is fifty four and White's fifty three hundred. Grendo is

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Speaker 3: fifty four or fifty for three hundred.

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Speaker 1: One hundred catches though less probably not many. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: they're not gonna run Bucky Irving out there when he

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Speaker 3: was questionable a week.

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Speaker 1: No. Yeah, and we can get out of it if Irving, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna plug. I'm gonna plug white with white there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So now we can average sixty seven hundred the rest

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Speaker 3: of the way for three receivers in a flex. Okay,

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Speaker 3: or two we kind.

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Speaker 1: Of like to.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's go ahead. Look in the six thousand and less.

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison is six thousand, Deebo Samuel six thousand. Khalil

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good.

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Speaker 3: DeVonta Smith is going to play this week. He's fifty

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Speaker 3: eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: No Dad, or too.

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Speaker 3: Brian Thomas is fifty eight hundred. Calvin Ridley is fifty

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Speaker 3: seven hundred. In a big revenge game.

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Speaker 1: He gets fed the ball.

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Speaker 3: They're thirtieth against opposing wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Their secondary is horrible.

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Speaker 3: I like that a lot. Jerry Judy is fifty seven hundred,

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Speaker 3: Keenan Allen fifty six hundred. Jacobe Myers is fifty six hundred.

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Speaker 1: I like the Ridley call in this neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Darnell Mooney is fifty five hundred. Is he questionable?

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Speaker 3: Uh, DeAndre Hopkins fifty four hundred. Jaylen Waddell is fifty

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Speaker 3: I can't go there.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been bro Jets.

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Speaker 3: The Jets cornerbacks are.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're good.

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Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner might not play though, oh really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I know that good against opposing receivers. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Roma Dunezia is five thousand.

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Speaker 1: If I was organizationally where you're at, it's time to

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Speaker 1: pivot to A Doonsay. Is the number one receiver?

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Speaker 3: DJ Moose questionable as well.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I mean, I like that hookup.

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Speaker 1: all at that price.

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Speaker 3: Dunezia over the last we had six targets last week,

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been super productive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the week before that it was five for thirty nine,

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Speaker 3: oh four. He hasn't scored in any of those games. No,

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Speaker 3: his stat's got one touchdown. I think we have money

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Speaker 1: Is there anyone cheaper than these guys that stands out?

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Speaker 1: I mean we're getting pretty. I don't want to go.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've got money.

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Speaker 3: We don't need to go cheap, right, I mean we

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Speaker 3: just don't.

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Speaker 1: All Right, who are the big big dogs?

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Speaker 3: Well, you're looking at Jamar Chase is eighty five hundred,

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Speaker 3: AJ Brown eighty one hundred, Justin Jefferson seventy eight hundred,

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Speaker 3: Pokin the Kua seventy seven hundred, Ceed Lamb against the

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Speaker 1: Chase and Lamb could go insane in that game.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that could be up and down the field.

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Speaker 1: Uner Higgins cost I bet he's worth it.

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Speaker 3: Mike Evans is seventy two hundred, Taysom or tot. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill is seventy one hundred, Cooper Cup seven thousand,

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Speaker 3: Milik Neighbors sixty nine hundred.

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Speaker 1: But it's questionable.

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Speaker 3: George Pickens sixty eight hundred, Devonte Adams sixty seven hundred,

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Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson sixty six hundred, T Higgins sixty five hundred.

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Speaker 1: I love that one.

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Speaker 3: I'm plugging that in.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, that's too cheap, and that's under that's under budget.

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Speaker 3: We might be able to pay up for one of

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Speaker 3: those for a.

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Speaker 1: Burrow, yeah, or any back we want flex situation.

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Speaker 3: Take them out at taking getting pivot away from one

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Speaker 1: Does LAMB do anything for you? I mean, we could

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Speaker 3: Well, here's some other guys. So Drake London is sixty

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Speaker 3: four hundred soda is. I understand that Cousins hasn't been great, right,

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Speaker 3: but but London, despite Cousins throwing four interceptions in that

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Speaker 3: game last week, London got sixteen targets, had nine catches

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Speaker 3: for eighty six yards.

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Speaker 1: Pitts isn't even on the field that much anymore. And

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Speaker 1: I got no problem investing in London. I think he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're gonna, I mean, they're gonna have to score.

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Speaker 3: He got seventy catches. I don't know, let's let's let's

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Speaker 3: look at Smith. Fine with it, Smith and Jigba is

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Speaker 3: sixty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: He's spreading pretty consistent lately too.

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Speaker 3: Lad McConkie is sixty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: I like it if you know he's playing. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: DK metcalf is sixty two hundred.

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Speaker 1: That whole neighborhood's interesting to me.

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Speaker 3: DJ Moore sixty one hundred. Question he's questionable. So all

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Speaker 3: all three of those mconkie, metcalf and more are all

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Speaker 3: questionable before you get to Marvin Harrison at six thousand.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and we started calming down from there, there's a

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Speaker 3: I like, you know what I'm thinking here? And this

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Speaker 3: would be the game where Chase Brown goes nuts. But

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Speaker 3: give it Chase Stack, Burrow, Chase and Higgins.

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Speaker 1: Wow, where would we be short? Our flex wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: a souper. We didn't look at any of this super

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Speaker 1: if we plug in Chase is questionable. Chase, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: but if maybe we can avoid that one, Let's go

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Speaker 1: Higgins Burrow.

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Speaker 3: If we plugged him in at eighty five hundred. We

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Speaker 3: could always pivot off that. If he's not gonna try,

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Speaker 3: well it's Monday night though. Well, if he doesn't play,

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Speaker 3: then you pivot to Gasiki or u Cyvus or something

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 1: And eat like six thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: I understand, Yeah, there's there's danger in that.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna play too. That leaves us then

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Speaker 3: ten dollars to fill a wide receiver in a flex spot.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what if we like londoned it or I know

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Speaker 1: it won't give us a ton left to flex, but

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Speaker 1: there were some cheapies we liked under six thousand. We

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Speaker 1: couldn't afford London though we London would have like four

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Speaker 1: grand left, we'd have less.

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Speaker 3: Than four grand.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah for a flex for a flex spot, Smith

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Speaker 1: forty two hundred for the flex spot. It's not much

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Speaker 1: that would get you. Let me see here, let's just

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Speaker 1: take a look. We'd be in too Bengal greedy. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that would get you, Like if we turn chase into London.

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Speaker 1: Our flex would be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then you're then you're talking about a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: If you throw another wide receiver in there. Looking at

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Speaker 3: Let's say you like London and you like Smith.

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Speaker 1: And Jigba, we get both with the flex.

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Speaker 3: There are sixty three or sixty one hundred, sixty three hundred, Actually.

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Speaker 1: We could, I bet we could.

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Speaker 3: That would be both of those guys on the money.

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Speaker 1: I like both.

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Speaker 3: So let's go Smith and Jigba, and then we have

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Speaker 3: sixty four hundred left for the flex. That would be

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Speaker 3: either Tony Pollard or Drake London.

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Speaker 1: I prefer London. We didn't look at any the expensive back.

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Speaker 1: So Tony Pollard is playing jackson They're playing Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: They're thirty first. They don't do anything well.

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Speaker 1: They're the worst team in the league right now. Pauler's fine.

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Speaker 1: gets he's had a really good year and nobody seems

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Speaker 3: Now, last week he only had eight carries for thirty

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Speaker 3: I mean it's been pretty good over the last nine

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Speaker 3: point eight. Twenty four point nine. They got killed by Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: That was in the twenty four point now in a

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Speaker 3: Again they won. So if you think they're going to

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Speaker 1: The three point favorites, and I think there that's still

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Speaker 1: too low.

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Speaker 3: He could have a monster game.

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Speaker 1: I'd like London as well, but I'm cool with both.

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Speaker 1: That's our flax. That's right.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the flash puzzle, right, Yeah, do it.

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Speaker 3: Tony Poller did this.

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 3: So that gives us Joe Burrow at the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, real nice.

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Speaker 3: At seventy three hundred, Braylan Allen at five thousand at

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Speaker 1: T Higgins is going to get out of White if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we'll pivot to. Yeah, I have to do something.

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Speaker 1: To There was the Raider guy. There was a couple

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Speaker 3: Maybe I could go up and a couple hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: or one hundred dollars to Grendo White's fifty three hundred,

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Speaker 3: you needed to. There are some of those guys that

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Speaker 3: we really liked, Tony Pollard at sixty four hundred in

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Speaker 1: Cool, lock it up.

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Speaker 3: That's a good lineup.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 3: I like it. Burrow could just go nuts on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you will. Yeah, I think you will. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So there's our DFS lineup for this week. We'll see

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Speaker 3: if we can turn that into winter. When Matt and

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Speaker 3: I come back, we'll take a look at all the games,

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Speaker 3: excluding the one we've been talking about all week long,

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Speaker 3: final segment. He's Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie. You're

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Speaker 3: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt

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Speaker 3: Williamson and Matt it's time to take a look at

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Speaker 3: this week's schedule of games. We just kind of went

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Speaker 3: through some of this stuff a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit here, but sure.

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Speaker 3: Kicking off our one o'clock schedule, the Jaguars at two

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Speaker 3: and ten are at the three and nine Titans Tennessee

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Speaker 3: favored by three and a half. The over under is

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Speaker 3: thirty nine and a half. No Trevor Lawrence in this one,

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Speaker 3: so it is going to be Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: I feel pretty strongly about the Titans covering that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I don't even think they're great, but I think

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00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 1: their defense is good. They did give up hard two

442
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four yards on the ground last week.

443
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 3: Oh I know, I know.

444
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 1: I mean they're not a great team. I'm not saying that.

445
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 3: There's no way Jack Wars stink.

446
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: I think they're the worst team.

447
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 3: They're pretty walking.

448
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: Day yea right now.

449
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they know the coaches and coming back the coach

450
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 3: knows he's not coming right. Those guys are all, as

451
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 3: you said, a bunch of time with the Browns. This

452
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 3: time of the year. Everybody's office door.

453
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 1: Is closer all of a sudden it used to be open. Yea,

454
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: what they're talking about.

455
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 3: Everybody's on the phone whispering and the.

456
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 1: Need job buddy guy spots for me over in Cleveland

457
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: or over in Chicago or wherever.

458
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the kind of stun that's going on there.

459
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that they currently owned the number one pick,

460
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: which I bet they wouldn't mind keeping.

461
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that. I think that the Titans rolling

462
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: that one. Uh, the three and nine Jets are at

463
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 3: the five and seven Dolphins Miami favored by five and

464
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 3: a half, the over under forty four and a half.

465
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 1: I know the Jets d's still decent, but I think

466
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 1: Dolphins smoke them. Well.

467
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 3: I think with Sauce Gardner out, do we know he's out?

468
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 3: I think he hasn't practiced all week. Yeah, it wasn't

469
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 3: looking good. I think to it carves them apart. Yeah,

470
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: and I think their defense pretty decent. They're at home

471
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 3: that Aaron Rodgers was talking badly about management. It's falling apart.

472
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess he's worried about his documentary and stuff too.

473
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: Like it's there's no way I'm on the Jets.

474
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 3: No, No, I think they get smashed.

475
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: I think they get smashed like Hulk more than most weeks.

476
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: There's games I think are I'd be willing to put

477
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: my hard earned money.

478
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 3: On teams that have something to play for against teams

479
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 3: that don't.

480
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: There's some lines I don't quite get this, yeah, which

481
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: always scares me when you start doing that. But you know,

482
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean big lines too, not dummies. Right, you got

483
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 1: the Kirk Cousins revenge games is another one. The Falcons

484
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: at six and six, are at the ten and two

485
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: Vikings Minnesota favored by six the over under forty five

486
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: and a half. I think Minnesota destroys them. I don't

487
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 1: think going back to Minnesota in his current state is

488
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: good for Cousins. No, I don't think so either. He

489
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: doesn't get out of the way of the rush. They're

490
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: gonna blitz them with it the brazy it's not out

491
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, Darnold worries me when he's under pressure.

492
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: They're the worst pass rushing defense in the league. Like

493
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: I think there's this is a horrendous matchup in Minnesota.

494
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: For me, it would be nice to see Justin Jefferson

495
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 1: perhaps get into the end zone in one of these weeks.

496
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: I know you have some thoughts on that.

497
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 3: Well here's it's like, so, cousins, just I'm sorry.

498
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeh.

499
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: Darnold has gone over three hundred yards and two touchdown passes,

500
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 3: and like five consecutive games, none of those touchdown passes

501
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: have gone to Justin Jefferson. I mean, what are the odds?

502
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: All right? He's not doing wrong?

503
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 3: No, I mean he's catching passes. He's not like he's

504
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 3: not been productive in most of those games. He's just

505
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: not getting in the end zone.

506
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: I could also see like Beijon in London and those

507
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: guys having decent games. And I don't think this is

508
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: going to be very close.

509
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: Falcons are one and five against the spread against teams

510
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 3: with winning records this season, oh and four in their

511
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: past four.

512
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they get beat YEP. I don't think

513
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: they're very good.

514
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 3: The Saints at four and eight, are at the two

515
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 3: and ten Giants New Orleans favored by four in the road.

516
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 3: The over under is forty and a half.

517
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: I'll gladly lay four.

518
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know how those Saints score all their points, right.

519
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: We probably should have looked at Alvin Kamara maybe in DFS,

520
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 3: but he's expensive at this point.

521
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: The Giants are another one that are just miserable. They're

522
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: picking second or third right now, and I don't think

523
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: they mind.

524
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 3: Drew Locke did not look great on.

525
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: Their shutting guys down neighbors is out, I mean questionable.

526
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 3: As bad as Luck was in the game on Thanksgiving,

527
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: he's still better than Tommy DeVito.

528
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he's a the NFL quarterback. Yeah.

529
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 3: Right, But Derek Carr actually, since he came back in

530
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: Week nine from that oblie, been good. Six touchdowns, no interceptions.

531
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like their offense has been respectable. Yeah, but

532
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: no no target, nobody to throw to, right Nola, he

533
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: just right? Okay? No, I think there are two tiers

534
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: ahead of the Giants.

535
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the Saints. So when that one

536
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: going away, Uh, you've got the three and nine Panthers

537
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: at the ten and two Eagles. Yuck. Yeah, Philadelphia favored

538
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 3: by thirteen, the over under forty five and a half.

539
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: It's a lot, but I still would take the.

540
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: Eagles Saque might run for three hundred yards and.

541
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: Say the biggest mismatch of the whole week is the

542
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: eag lined versus the Carolina line.

543
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: Panthers are allowing one hundred and sixty point one rushing

544
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: yards per game, which is worse than a league, including

545
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty six last week against Tampa Bay.

546
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay is a good offensive line, but they don't

547
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: have Saquon Barkley.

548
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: Or Mulatta or Lane Joe.

549
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: It's again, they might run for over three hundred yards.

550
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: I don't think Hurts will be under any pressure. I mean,

551
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: I think they'll do whatever they want one of them.

552
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: The only fear with with like if you wanted to

553
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 3: start Barkley in the DFS league, is that he's not

554
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: going to be in there in the second half.

555
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: Maybe not, maybe not. AJ Brown might not either. Kenneth

556
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: game Well might run for one hundreds. They may not

557
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: even throw a pass in the second half. Yeah, which

558
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: is exactly what they did. It might be Kenneth Gamewell

559
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: getting twenty carries in the second half of that sneaky

560
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: DFS start.

561
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh yeah. I think the thirteen a lot. I

562
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: think the Panthers have or the Eagles have their way

563
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: with them.

564
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: Eagles defense is playing, it's been playing league right now. Yeah.

565
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: Maybe the only way I could see Carolina hanging around

566
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: is if the Eagles have a little bit of a letdown.

567
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 3: Good after going into Baltimore and winning last week, and

568
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 3: who did beat the week?

569
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: There's a human nature to it. It's in Carolina, right, No,

570
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: it's in films. Yeah, I'm not picking the Panther.

571
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 3: No, I'm not either. Another mismatch here. You got the

572
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 3: two and ten Raiders at the six and six Buccaneers.

573
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay line's too low to Tampa Bay favored by

574
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: six and a half, the over under forty six and

575
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: a half.

576
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: They're a much better team than the Raiders. Yeah, in

577
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: their building, a lot to play for. Atlanta loses, they win,

578
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: They're right.

579
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: Back in first place, right in the driver by themselves.

580
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win that division. Yeah, I think

581
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: so as well. And I don't know where the Raiders

582
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 1: have advantages.

583
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: How about this little stat though, Aidan O'Connell, he hasn't

584
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: been horrible. Who will get to start this week for

585
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 3: the Raiders. In his career, he's made thirteen starts, He's

586
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: eleven and two against the spread.

587
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

588
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: I mean, just that's the best of any quarterback in

589
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl Area era with at least ten starts.

590
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's not terrible.

591
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: He keeps them like maybe this the lines are a

592
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: little what.

593
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: He thinks they're. Yeah, horrible, but it's not terrible. I mean,

594
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: I think that's that's what it tells us. I believe it.

595
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: But I don't think they are within a touchdown in

596
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: this game. And I don't know that the betting public

597
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: is changing that or onto this or anything. Yea, for

598
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: they aren't. I could see the Raiders with a little

599
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: back door cover there. They've got weapons, they got weapons.

600
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean I thought about Bowers for DFS. Yeah, he's

601
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: a monster. You know, he be offensive Rokie of the year.

602
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: I kind of think he should maybe if you're gonna

603
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: catch him, and he might be the best sight in

604
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah.

605
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: By the way, he looks like he's like forty five

606
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 3: years old.

607
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: I bet he is when he was ten too. Yeah. Yeah,

608
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: one of those dudes.

609
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got less hair than I do.

610
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been a full grown man like forever.

611
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 3: Uh Okay, moving on to the four o'clock games. He

612
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: got the Seahawks at seven and five are at the

613
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: Cardinals at six and six. Arizona favored by two and

614
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 3: a half, the over under forty four and a half.

615
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what to think of this game.

616
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you know last night game aside, this is

617
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: the biggest game of the week. Yeah, I think whoever

618
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: wins this wins the West. I do too if you

619
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: look at their remaining schedules and tie breakers and all that.

620
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a months one of the biggest

621
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: games of the year period. I think it's a very

622
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: equal match or matchup. I like where both defenses are playing.

623
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: I think Seattles is more talented. I just was gonna

624
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: take points, Okay, I'm not sure who's gonna win. If

625
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna give me points, I'll take it. Yeah, I mean,

626
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 1: I just don't too I think he said right two

627
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 1: and a half, two and a half.

628
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: I just don't know which Kyler Murray.

629
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: It's been a little up and down.

630
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really they can't be happy with how he's

631
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: played over all this year.

632
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: They'll probably grin and say yes, but probably deep down

633
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: he's a B and we need an ayah.

634
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, so.

635
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.

636
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: Think in this matchup, I'll go with the home team.

637
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: It's only two. If it were three, I might take

638
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: the points. But two and a half, I think somebody

639
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: wins this by a field goal. I'll go with the

640
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: home team winning it by a field goal. Okay, you

641
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: got the ten and two Bills at the six and

642
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: six Rams. Buffalo only favored by three and a half.

643
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: I know the over unders forty nine and a half

644
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: Bill's nation.

645
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: I would say, I bet a lot of peop wouldn't mind

646
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: geting out of Bufalo right about now. Yeah, go to

647
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: La and get a little son.

648
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: You can get a flight from Buffalo to La. It's

649
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: probably about six different changes.

650
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: But I think the Bills win by a touchdown or so.

651
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this might be high game at half, but

652
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Rams can hang around for

653
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: sixty years of the team. I think they get after Stafford.

654
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and make him. Their defense have been really solid,

655
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: it has, and yeah, I'm sure Alan will get.

656
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: We started Khalils Shakir and our H. I think I

657
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: think the Bills put up a bunch of points.

658
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: The Rams.

659
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: The Rams can score points.

660
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: This might be higher score might be a sneaky over.

661
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, this would be a game. What was the over

662
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: forty nine and a half? So Vegas thinks it's going

663
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: to be a higher scoring game.

664
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: I'd stuck, probably lean towards the over yain.

665
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got the four and eight bear at the

666
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: five and seven forty nine ers. San Francisco favored by

667
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 3: four the un three and a half. Chicago isn't won

668
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: in quite some time. They were four and four.

669
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: At one They have really found some ways.

670
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: There were four and three at one point.

671
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think right, they've been really good at finding

672
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: weird ways to lose. Yeah, I'll definitely take the points.

673
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: New coach.

674
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if that gives them a bump

675
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: or not or whatever. I mean, probably to some degree.

676
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: I think Caleb Williams and the offense is playing much

677
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: better since the coordinator change. Although now you take the

678
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: coordinator out of the coordinator job. Weird. But I just

679
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: think the Niners are a disaster. And I hate to

680
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: say things like this, but they've had multiple players lately

681
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: lose children, you know, like terrible.

682
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: Things, Yeah, I mean like awful life things.

683
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like and oh, by the way, your stars are

684
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: going to fall and left and right, the injury and

685
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: it's just it has to be a bad environment right now.

686
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not good, not good at all.

687
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Speaker 1: Uh.

688
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 3: The Sunday night game, this is a big game, Hm,

689
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: the eight and four charge at the eleven to one

690
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: Chiefs Kansas City favored by four forty two and a

691
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: half is the over under. So they don't think a

692
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: lot of points. No, and in a case where they're not,

693
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: there's not gonna be a lot of points scored. He'll

694
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: take the points.

695
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: Me too, me too. Overfield goal. Yeah, this feels like

696
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen, twenty one to twenty Hardbaugh keeping his team

697
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: in it. I'd love to know if mcconkey's playing just

698
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: because you need some kind of weapons.

699
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: I think he end up packing will and he was

700
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: he was, he was limited yesterday, so I would I

701
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: would think he plays.

702
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

703
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: I think they might win outright, and this is a

704
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: I think they will too. I think that's certain certainly

705
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: a possibility because they'll get a pass rush on Mahomes. Yeah,

706
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: against those tackles.

707
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: Oh, they'll own those tackles.

708
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: And the other thing. I think that's kind of under

709
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: reporter right now. The Chiefs kickers. Now, Matthew right now,

710
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: I like Matthew Wright.

711
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: Sure, it's a good opportunity for him.

712
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: But he doesn't have a big leg.

713
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: He's not bucker.

714
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: No, and they kick a lot of field goals.

715
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure be windy and yeah, the Chiefs have been

716
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: kicking a lot of field goals. If this was a

717
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: pick'em game, I'm not sure who i'd take.

718
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Herbert is two and seven against the Chiefs in

719
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: his career, but he is two and seven, so it's

720
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: not like he never beats them.

721
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was also Staley as as head coach.

722
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chiefs have won fourteen consecutive games by one

723
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 3: score or less, which is the longest streak in NFL history.

724
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: And that's awesome, and there's an art to it at

725
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: some point that ends. Yeah, I just think they're doing

726
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: the hidden vigorous is there. I think they have some

727
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: secondary issues. Their pass rush is falling off a cliff.

728
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: I bet Herbert does well in this game.

729
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: I'm looking here at the I always use the ESPN

730
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: kind of model here. Yeah, they give you all the

731
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: games and you just get out there. All three of

732
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: their guys who pick are people who pick games, picking

733
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: the Chargers to win outright, to.

734
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Speaker 1: Win out right?

735
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, with that, I think I would too.

736
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Monday Night contest, this line doesn't add

737
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: up to me either.

738
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: The Bengals at four and eight are at the five

739
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: and seven Cowboys, who actually have won two games in

740
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: a row.

741
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: No, they're doing good things.

742
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: Uh, Cincinnati favored by five, the over under forty nine

743
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: and a half.

744
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: I think this game should a pick them like.

745
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if it should be.

746
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: Here's clearly Burrow gives you an advantage. It's huge, I mean,

747
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: much better quarter.

748
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: The question that you have to ask yourself when picking

749
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: the Cowboys is Ken Dallas's offense with Cooper Rush score

750
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: enough points to keep up.

751
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: With Burrow because they probably will put thirty on you.

752
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna put up at least thirty mid twenties minimum

753
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: because Dallas's defense is not great. It's not great at all. Yeah,

754
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 1: I mean Parsons could have a day, but they are

755
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: going to score on Yeah, there's no question Dallas is

756
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: running the ball better. I mean they're a little more

757
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: well rounded now. Rush is finding himself as a well

758
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: below average quarterback.

759
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: But not Farson's back.

760
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you're at home. I think they're

761
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: better coached. Yeah, I mean I'll take the points. Sure.

762
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's a pick them game, I'd probably

763
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: would take the Bengals. Yeah, but I'll take the points.

764
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: I hear you on that one. I think, if anything,

765
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: I would just play the over under. What is it,

766
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: forty nine and a half. That's lower than I thought. Yeah,

767
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: I mean you leaning towards the over. I soon, I mean,

768
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: put a bunch of Bengals in our lineup. Yeah, yeah,

769
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: right right, I could have. Yeah, I'll take the I'll

770
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: take the Bengals. I'll lay the points. Just take the Bengals.

771
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: I think they do. They do, but I think Burrow

772
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 3: kind of wills them to win it in a game

773
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 3: in which his defense isn't markedly worse than the defense

774
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: Steelers defense.

775
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, it is Monday Football. He's super proud.

776
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: I get all that.

777
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he goes out and has himself a game.

778
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that one bit. I just think their

779
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: defense is what I saw from it last week. I

780
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: can't go down that road as a favorite. I mean,

781
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: I hear I mean, if this was a two point game, maybe,

782
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: but over a field goal.

783
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: I hear you, but I just don't know if the

784
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: Cowboys as currently constructed, if Dak Prescott was playing.

785
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, the it's probably a pick them game.

786
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know that they can keep up with.

787
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: Your points valid, I mean, there's no question. But can

788
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: rush feed ceedee lamb fifteen times? I mean targets?

789
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

790
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: Probably try. Yeah, I don't know if that results in

791
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: thirty points or not.

792
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either. It might might and then

793
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: the Bengals just go down to score again.

794
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure the Bengals will do well.

795
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyways, that's this week's slate of games. Remember

796
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: there's a spreads six teams on the by this week,

797
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: including the Ravens, so we won't get to see them

798
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 3: go out and match up again. There Baltimore, Denver, Houston, Indianapolis,

799
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: New England and Washington. So a couple of those teams

800
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: you don't mind being off because they don't have to.

801
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: They aren't the affront of your eyes. That Yeah, you

802
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 3: don't have to watch New England once again.

803
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: No other division teams to watch on Sunday though.

804
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: No, that's it just Steelers Bengals or Steelers Browns I

805
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: should say, ye, that's it. We will talk about that

806
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: game and what we think is going to happen in

807
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 3: that one when we come back. He is Matt Williamson.

808
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

809
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,040
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810
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,239
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811
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,600
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Speaker 3: right after this.

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Speaker 2: He is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 2: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is d

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00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson, and this is the Drive on the Steelers

823
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: Audio Network. And Matt, we have the Steelers injury Report here, okap.

824
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: And it is interesting because cropping up on the injury

825
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: report today George Pickens, Oh wow, questionable. Well, there's a

826
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 3: limited participant today. He's got dealing with a little bit

827
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: of a hamstring.

828
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: Okay, that's totally news to us, right, it is completely new. Yeah,

829
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: Wednesday Friday or Wednesday Thursday, he was full go right, yeah, okay,

830
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: don't love hearing that. I mean, he's been pretty high

831
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: on my list of guys not to lose.

832
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. The only other guy on the Steelers injury report

833
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: is Montrevius Adams. Listed is out, but he hasn't been

834
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 3: activated from I are yet. Everybody else is good to go.

835
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, obviously keep an eye on pickings. Yeah, hopefully

836
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: it's just precautionary. Something's bugging them a little bit, you know.

837
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of that's the way it looked.

838
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: That's usually the thing.

839
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: From what I saw practice today, I was interested to

840
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 3: see how they would list him. Let's put it that way.

841
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: Okay. I know you can't say certain certain things. But

842
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't like, oh my han string popped and nothing

843
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: like that. Bring the card out. Yeah, season over, Yeah,

844
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: crazy stuff.

845
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: So all the people if he doesn't play, all the

846
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: people ripping on pickens all they got to get rid

847
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: of them. They got to do this, they got to

848
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: do that. Be careful what you ask for.

849
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's really good.

850
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, might change the game plan a little bit.

851
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Brown's injury reports different story, right, Yeah. Yeah.

852
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: They They've got four guys out and three guys questionable

853
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: for this game. Cornerback Harden with the tibia is questionable.

854
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: One Thornhill, the safety with the calf injury. He was

855
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: limited all week, he is questionable. And Jamari Thrash, one

856
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 3: of their wide receivers. He was limited yesterday and today,

857
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: didn't practice on Wednesday. He's questionable. That is significant because well,

858
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: looking at the guys who were out, Cedric Tillman did

859
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: not practice again today. He is an out. Two of

860
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: their defensive tackles Maurice Hurst and Sam Kamara both out,

861
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: and Jedrick Wills.

862
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, also shot.

863
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 3: There no shock.

864
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: There, but okay, Yeah, Tillman was the one you had

865
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: a thought might but then early early in the practice

866
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: week it was pretty clear.

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00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 3: So they only have five receivers on their roster, okay,

868
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: and you know Tillman's out, so that knocks him down

869
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: the four.

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00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: Judy and Moore gonna play everything else.

871
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: If Thrash doesn't play, now you're down to three.

872
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: I wonder if you go to a lot more twelve, you.

873
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 3: Don't have to bring somebody about the practice squad.

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00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, how how am I going to help

875
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: my edge past protectors. Maybe you get bigger bodies out

876
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: there and don't play as much eleven as you usually did.

877
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: Don't want to run, they want They never run the

878
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: ball man. That's the thing.

879
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: I would think Najoku gets a spike in production or

880
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: while he had seventeen targets last week, I meaning more

881
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: than that. But I bet they throw them a lot. Yeah.

882
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 3: So, uh, the Steelers in this game favored by six

883
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: and a half, the over under forty three and a half.

884
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: I realize I'm right on the total. Basically, what do

885
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: you see happening in this game, Matt, I have Steelers

886
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: winning twenty seven seventeen. I didn't realize I was right

887
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: on the total. I think the story of the day

888
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: is the Steelers defensive line is the best unit out

889
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: there and is a totally dominant pass rushing and run

890
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: defending front. And I still think the Browns will make plays.

891
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Winston makes plays. I think their pass catchers

892
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: are still good enough that they'll move the football and

893
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: maybe they get behind the defense and do some things.

894
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: But I do think there's some revenge here. The home factor.

895
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: Steelers are in a good spot overall. The other side

896
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: of the ball I don't think will be as good

897
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh, but I still think that back to Wilson

898
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: keeping them out of bad plays balance, I expect there

899
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: to be a nice run pass balance. Pickingsing gives me

900
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of pause, but I'm gonna operate under

901
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: the assumption he's playing, and I would still pick the

902
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: Steelers to win without him, but probably in a different manner.

903
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he gets people out of the box and

904
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: makes safeties rule direction, and you know, I think there'll

905
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: be a lot tougher sledding if he's unable or pulls

906
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: up lame halfway through or whatever. But I think the

907
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: Steelers are just better, and I don't think a lot

908
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: of the bounces and things that didn't go their way

909
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: are going to have the same effect this year the

910
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: time around.

911
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think getting high Smith back is big. Yeah.

912
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: As we mentioned, just one tackle for a loss for

913
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: the Steelers in the first meeting while the Browns had

914
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: eleven out.

915
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna flip, but I bet the

916
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: Steelers get more than the Browns do.

917
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Browns don't run the ball all that much.

918
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: But I still think the Steelers getting behind the line

919
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 3: of scrimmage more often. I don't think this. I think

920
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: the offensive line comes out and plays a little better

921
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 3: this time around.

922
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

923
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to know exactly where Miles Garrett's at

924
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 3: and how to shut him down.

925
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: That's as possible.

926
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: Sure, I think TJ. Watt has the better game this

927
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: at all. Yeah, and maybe solidifies his rankings among the

928
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: or NFL Defensive Player of the Year. So you sent

929
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 3: me an article from today that's on the Pro Football Focus.

930
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 3: A guy from Pro Football Focus championing championing Cam Hayward

931
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: as the NFL Defensive Player of the Year.

932
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: I think he has a case. Yeah, I mean I

933
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: don't know this, but I mean, don't the Steelers vote

934
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: on defensive and offensive MVPs every year or they just

935
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: do a team they do a team MVP. It might

936
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: be Cam Hayward, it might be yeah, And I don't

937
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: think TJ. Shabat and I or you know, I mean,

938
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: Hayward's been unbelievable this year. Another Pro Football Focused thing

939
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: I tweeted out I found interesting was they put a

940
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: graph out today of all the edge pass rushers. They're

941
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: their PFF grade, so take with a grain of salt,

942
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: but it's still something when they truly have one on

943
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: ones the top five guys in the league, and then

944
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: there's a little gap and there's Hendrickson and Bosa, but

945
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: the top five guys in the league, as you'd expect,

946
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: are Parsons, Garrett, Watt and her Big and Heismith. Yeah,

947
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: they have three of the top five, like, come on, man,

948
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: and they're gonna feast. I think.

949
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I expect to see her Big on the field

950
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: a lot with those other two guys. It's a shame thing. Yeah,

951
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: they play all three of them.

952
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: I did a Thursday night show with Mike Pursuda and

953
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: Merrill and we were talking about that more and more,

954
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: and I think it's probably a maybe maybe it's five snaps.

955
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's five to ten snaps.

956
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: But if you keep Herbig off the field, right Yeah.

957
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: And if I was them, I'd play Watt a little

958
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: bit less snaps too, not that he's been overworked, but

959
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: you don't have to play him a ton.

960
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: Yahrston Smith might be out there in first and ten.

961
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: I got this from being a little higher scoring than you.

962
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: I got it I got Steelers thirty the Browns twenty four. Okay,

963
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: I do I have respect for the Cleveland's offense in

964
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: the football.

965
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: I do too. I just think that he's gonna be

966
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: under a lot of the rests and I'm expecting way

967
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: more negative plays. Yeah, it doesn't mean they'll be less positive,

968
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: but I think they'll be way more negative.

969
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 3: That's the thing. I think for every positive play he makes,

970
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: let's say, for every two positive plays he makes this

971
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: has just been the course of his career, there's one negative.

972
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: So it's two steps forward, one step back for Jamis

973
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: Winston all the time.

974
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: And something might not even be him, might just be

975
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,959
Speaker 1: sacks and pad batted passes and stuff. The Steelers do well.

976
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: Yeah again, I really think the d line's in a

977
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: good spot.

978
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. And to our point earlier.

979
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: You think Porter follows Judy, Now I assume.

980
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: I don't think he does. I they just play sides

981
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 3: because you know they the other guys have been good too.

982
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

983
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 3: He just he spreads the ball around so much that.

984
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: They all get targed. Yeah.

985
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think you see Manka a lot

986
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: on the Joko again, Yeah, I think I think I

987
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: think that worked the first time around him.

988
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, wouldn't you do that again after seventeen targets last week? Okay,

989
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: Tillman's out. Yeah, that adds, so we could.

990
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 3: I mean if they try to target and joke, who's

991
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: seventeen times with Minkea Fitzpatrick and primary coverage, We'll say

992
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 3: ten of those make and Fitzpatrick's getting a turnover.

993
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: Oh, I like his chances no matter what. Yeah, but

994
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: we've been saying that for a while.

995
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, but most teams don't throw at him a

996
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: whole lot.

997
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: If they don't have a lot of other options, they will,

998
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: they'll throw at him if he's on the joko. Yeah.

999
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. The Steelers right now have a ninety nine point

1000
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: three percent chance to make the playoffs. If they win

1001
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: this game, they have a seventy one percent chance to

1002
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 3: win the AFC North. The Ravens fall to twenty nine percent.

1003
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: Okay, as they sit on buy. Yeah, obviously that's up.

1004
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 3: So that's what's kind of at stake here with this game.

1005
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: And no matter how it goes, if they lose Monday,

1006
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a little concerned. Yeah, I mean, not

1007
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: that they won't go to the playoffs or can't still

1008
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: make noise, but it's not where you want to be

1009
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: in this season. I mean, this is one I think

1010
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: you kind of have to have.

1011
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one at home that you'd better wine

1012
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 3: if if you were the team.

1013
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: And they truly want to be the team, you think

1014
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: you can be.

1015
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you got to get the take care

1016
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: of business here. That would also give Mike Tomlin. I

1017
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: think it's eleven ten win seasons.

1018
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: I think you're right.

1019
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 3: That would tie him with Andy Reid for the most

1020
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 3: ten win seasons. Second most ten win seasons, I should

1021
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 3: say since two thousand and seven.

1022
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: Wow, I assume Belichick.

1023
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: Belichick one with fourteen. He's not going to add to

1024
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: that total.

1025
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: He's not gonna add that. I wonder where it is

1026
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: all time. It's gotta be pretty.

1027
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: High percentage wise, I would think very high. Yeah, yeah, ye, yeah,

1028
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: So that's what you're that's what you're looking at here,

1029
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: And well we'll see, you know.

1030
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: How this lies going to get to ten no matter what.

1031
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I think the Steelers handle their business

1032
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 3: in this one. I think.

1033
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: I think Cleveland covers I don't six and a half's

1034
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a big one. I was shocked when

1035
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: I saw that number the first time around. I was like,

1036
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: I thought it would be like four in that neighborhood.

1037
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm just betting on the Steelers D line more than anything.

1038
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear. I mean, that wouldn't surprise me if

1039
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: they blew him out. But I just I do have

1040
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: a respect for what Jameis Winston is doing right.

1041
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: Now very much.

1042
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: So it would if this were Deshaun Watson. The line

1043
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 3: couldn't be big.

1044
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: Enough, wouldn't be big enough, right, and they would have

1045
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: cashed it in and their whole attitude to be different

1046
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me. At the defense scores, yeah, you know

1047
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, it's a tip ball and make

1048
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: it exit.

1049
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 3: Something along those. Yeah, I do expect. Well, Calvin Austin

1050
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: is not even on the injury report this week, so

1051
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: he's been cleared. True, So that's a good sign the

1052
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 3: Steelers will have. Even if Pickens were to not play,

1053
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: they would.

1054
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: That would change my tune. I don't like hearing that

1055
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: at all. I still think they win and I would

1056
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: pick them to win. I wouldn't take them the.

1057
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: I think the defense wins this one.

1058
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think all the defense even if it is.

1059
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: And I know my score was thirty to twenty four.

1060
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 3: H But if a team's gonna come out and throw

1061
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 3: the ball sixty times in today's NFL, you're gonna score points.

1062
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, to score points, But the other thing is gonna

1063
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: get hit. There's gonna be negative plays. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1064
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I think the Steelers will play

1065
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: it much closer to the best without pickings. Yeah, run,

1066
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: run punt. Okay, we'll be fine. Defense has things, you know.

1067
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a much lower scoring game. Yeah.

1068
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for the week one week. Yeah,

1069
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: good week. We'll be back on my five day week

1070
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: for the first time.

1071
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely, get a five day week next week as well,

1072
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: so that'll be fun.

1073
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

1074
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1075
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 3: on saite running the Justin Miller hotline, well done. Yes, absolutely.

1076
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: For Tyler Viittmyer here making sure our video makes it

1077
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: out on to YouTube. You need to check that out

1078
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Speaker 3: if you haven't. I am Dale Lolly. We thank you

1079
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Speaker 3: for listening to this edition of the Drive on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network.