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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: Chad Noulman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. We

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Speaker 1: have reached the peak of summer. Hopefully everyone is going

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Speaker 1: into a July fourth holiday weekend. You can bring us

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Speaker 1: along with you for your listening pleasure. It is part

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Speaker 1: two of our annual summer mail Bag episodes, where we

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Speaker 1: answer your burning questions right here on the show. Simon

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Speaker 1: doesn't know this yet, but I'm changing an answer from

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Speaker 1: the previous mail bag episode. Joining me is my co host,

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Speaker 1: my companion, Mike cam Padre my BFF Professional Better Simon

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Speaker 1: Hunter et O. Soymon, Hello Chad.

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Speaker 2: The true dog days of summer. It's in the Northeast.

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Speaker 2: Became go outside anymore. It's so humid and hot, and

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Speaker 2: basically all I'm doing is just enjoying football, right, just

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Speaker 2: getting ready for the season. So yeah, this next month

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Speaker 2: is the last real push, right chat, It's the last

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Speaker 2: slow days and then it just starts speeding up.

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Speaker 1: It's like three weeks until training camp starts great and

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Speaker 1: it is on us in a snap, and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're gonna have to start making choices.

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Speaker 1: Are we watching Pennant race potential winning games in baseball

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Speaker 1: or are we watching a Thursday night preseason game between

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Speaker 1: get anything learned.

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Speaker 3: But Bear's got the Hall of Fame game, right, That's right,

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Speaker 3: that's I mean, come on, hey, listen, I'm a huge

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Speaker 1: I think everybody knows at this point. One of my

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Speaker 2: Maybe you should go for their first Williams game.

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Speaker 1: In our previous mailbag, Simon, someone asked about advice, and

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Speaker 1: you know what, we always get questions about advice, career, advice, life, advice,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, and we both sort of landed on

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Speaker 1: something that I feel like is the same answer everybody gives,

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Speaker 1: which is take risks, don't be afraid things will work out.

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Speaker 1: I'm a thousand years older than you. I can look

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Speaker 1: back and be like, oh my god, I should have

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Speaker 1: taken even more risks, and like nothing I did before

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Speaker 1: been as much fun or led to different or just

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Speaker 1: as interesting a career. But the answer is I thought

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Speaker 1: answer that it's the fucking people. The number of people

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Speaker 1: then ended up in a trap working with the shittiest people.

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Speaker 1: tell you the most important factor when thinking about who

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Speaker 1: really focused on career. It's about the people. Like you

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, that totally makes sense.

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Speaker 2: No, that's yeah, it's probably number one. Right Like this,

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Speaker 2: I think most people in life would take less money

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Speaker 2: there with you, Tred. I've worked some horrible jobs with

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Speaker 1: I remember I had gone away on a trip with

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't go back, And my wife says,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's the people people, speaking of which Bill

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Speaker 1: This is a great question. It feels like there are

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be tough because I honestly watched about ninety

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Speaker 4: So not scratch some eyes, you are really seeing me

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Speaker 2: Just hearing the British or Scottish or Irish accent talking

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Speaker 2: because it's fun. It's Tony Romo, Like Tony Romo is

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Speaker 5: He's I don't know, Jim, I don't know if he's

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Speaker 2: It's fun. Like Tony Romo, he's the perfect type of

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Speaker 1: So this is a very specific answer, and I think

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Speaker 1: But the Bulls have been very lucky in that they

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Speaker 1: like when they had librarians, three or four librarians full time.

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Speaker 6: Growing up as a Bill's fan in the nineteen nineties,

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Speaker 1: It's possible. It's possible. I'm thinking about last last year

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Speaker 2: I'll go Warren Moon. Just he dealt with racism and

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Speaker 1: Right in this era with offense being much more wide open,

431
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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman hire up even more stats and the Cowboys

432
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Speaker 1: win as many Super Bowls as they won.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean they had a Hall of Fame full back,

434
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Speaker 2: hall of Fame running back. He just talked about Hall

435
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: of Fame offensive lineman, and then a Hall of Famer

436
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: on the outside. And they had a bunch of guys

437
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: on defense that were great players as well. It was

438
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 2: just and I mean now you mixing that they kept

439
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: playing Buffalo. It was just a perfect time for the

440
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: Cowboys that they kept you know, then then the Giants,

441
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: they got a couple of rings off that Buffalo team.

442
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: That's like that changes history, right, that that gives the

443
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: Giants a really rich history, and the same with the Cowboys.

444
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: So Troy Aikman couldn't have timed it any better for

445
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: his skill set, what he did so well, and another

446
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: guy who the NFL chewed him up and spit him out.

447
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you go back and watch the hits he

448
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: took in college before he even got to the league,

449
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: he was already on his way out. His body just

450
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: been so beat up. And those were back in the

451
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: day where like you know, you tear something in their shoulder,

452
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: they just give you a shot, Like they're not giving

453
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: you a surgery, right, They're gonna be like, no, you got

454
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: to finish this season kind of deal back then. So Troy,

455
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: I always joke I think he's one of the most

456
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: overrated quarterbacks ever. But I think for that error, he

457
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 2: was so perfect because he was a good quarterback, a

458
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: good game manager, and he didn't need the accolades, right,

459
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: Like he just never seem even nowadays, like he doesn't

460
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: seem like he's got that type of ego where you know,

461
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: some of their guys probably want to dealt with that

462
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: great where he knows he's a punching bag, right, Like

463
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: everyone talks about Emmett Smith like that's that's the guy

464
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: from that team. So now he's the perfect perfect quarterback

465
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Speaker 2: in that perfect era he would be In my opinion,

466
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say he'd be like a Minshew. I

467
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: think he'd be worse than Minshew in this era, Like

468
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: at least Minshew can get around. I know you think

469
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm a hater, do about that?

470
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: That is absurd.

471
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: I think that's how much harder and better it is

472
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: nowadays to play like you have to be so much

473
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: more athletic and smarter than you were in the nineties. Like, dude,

474
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: the nineties literally ran two defenses. There were it's a joke,

475
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: like you go back, sports used to be so dumb,

476
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: where now it's so advanced. So I get where you're

477
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: coming from. I just I can't read my head around

478
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: Troy Aikman succeed in this league. I probably would have

479
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: a fifth or six round grade.

480
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Speaker 1: On the tray. Agman comp is brock perty.

481
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Speaker 2: Fuck No, dude, brock Brady is a good athlete. Like

482
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what I know. It's because I'm coming

483
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: off as a huge hater right now, when I think

484
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: of him, it's just like, oh, man, I can't see

485
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: him working out, like I just he doesn't have the tools.

486
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: But again, that was your era. I could be way

487
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: off here. I just I just can't see it.

488
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually that was my era. I covered that

489
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys team often. You couldn't be more off on Trey Agman.

490
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Speaker 1: Do you care about the Summer Olympics and what is

491
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: your favorite part?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Summer Olympics. I mean as a man,

494
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Speaker 2: my favorite thing to watch is definitely the volleyball if

495
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: i'm women's volleyball, preferably. Uh. For sport wise, I don't know.

496
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Speaker 2: It's tough is table tennis summer because I do love

497
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: the table tennis? Yeah, Like I like all the stupid stuff,

498
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, it's gonna be

499
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Speaker 2: track and field. Like the fastest man in the world

500
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Speaker 2: that whole you saying, Bolt think too. I was so

501
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: caught up that the swimming Michael Phelips, So definitely those

502
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: type of sports. I just get all in on.

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Speaker 1: Love the Summer Olympics. I think it's an amazing I

504
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: think the pageantry is amazing, the sport that I've covered

505
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: two summer Olympics and one year. I don't know if

506
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: I've told this story. Matt Mitchell, knight yell at me

507
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: if I start telling it again. Have I told the

508
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: story about covering the Atlanta Olympics and the bombing. So

509
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: ninety six, I'm working for Sports Illustrated. Sports Illustrated goes

510
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: down and they're one of the Olympic sponsors, and we

511
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: decided we're going to put out a daily magazine. So

512
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Speaker 1: there's a staff of us that are covering sports during

513
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Speaker 1: the day, writing about then, and like publishing the magazine

514
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Speaker 1: at one o'clock in the morning, and it's being distributed

515
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: throughout the throughout Atlanta. That that next day right full

516
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: coverage of the Olympics SSI Quality SI Form SI magazine.

517
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Speaker 1: And so I'm in the media center, which overlooks Centennial Park,

518
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: and it's nearly deadline, and there's this massive boom, like

519
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: you hear it, you feel it, you see light, and

520
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: nobody knows what it is. At the time, I'm thinking

521
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: to myself, that's weird. There was no we all knew

522
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: what the weather was supposed to be every day. There's

523
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: no rain forecast for today, and So then I start

524
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Speaker 1: to walk out of our sort of newsroom into the

525
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Speaker 1: main media center, and in my head, I'm really going

526
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Speaker 1: to look over Centennial Park. At this point, there's like,

527
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, people buzzing that something had happened in Stanglo Park.

528
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Speaker 1: So I'm leaving the newsroom to go to the cafeteria

529
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: that overlooks Santanagalo Park and get to like be a

530
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Speaker 1: gawker through the windows. The editor of the magazine looks

531
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: at me and says, Chad, great idea. Take this cell phone,

532
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: which is like a brick at this time. Take this

533
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: cell phone. When you get into the park, call us

534
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: back with the news of what's happening on the ground.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now. I had no intention of

536
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Speaker 1: going to the park. I had no intention of leaving

537
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Speaker 1: the media center. But because I happened to be the

538
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Speaker 1: first one to walk out so I could a gawk

539
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: at what was happening in the park through the safety

540
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: of the windows of the media center, the editor had

541
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Speaker 1: to me a phone. I go downstairs. I'm at the park.

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00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm walking by what happens to be my hotel, which

543
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: is right on the edge of the park, and I

544
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: see a guy and his knee is busted wide open,

545
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: and so like I he like, I sort of pull

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00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: him into the hotel lobby, and of course I'm gonna

547
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: interview him, but the cell phone at this point isn't working,

548
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: and I want to call back to the newsroom to

549
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: give an update to my editor, and so I have

550
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: to go use a payphone. And when I'm using the payphone,

551
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm done with the call. I turn back around and

552
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: all of the media is surrounding this dude in an

553
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: informal press conference because I brought him back into the

554
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: lobby of the fucking media hotel. So I lost my

555
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: scoop and for the next decade, I see this guy's

556
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: face in the middle of the This is CNN promos

557
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: as like an action shot of him being interviewed after

558
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: the bombing and Centennial Park. That's my Olympic story today.

559
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: It's like Old Home Week. I got all the stories

560
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: from like the last twenty thirty years.

561
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: No, that's amazing story though, that's crazy.

562
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: But weightlifting is an amazing sport. To attend an event,

563
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: the intensity, the anxiety, the one moment these athletes have.

564
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: They're in the dark for four years, they get one

565
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: chance to do this. It is it raises your heart rate.

566
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: It is so gut wrenching to watch. Fucking love it.

567
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: Love the weightlifting stuff, it's so it's so good, so good,

568
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: as well as the swimming and the gymnastics and the trial.

569
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: Even the wrestling in the box and all of it.

570
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just you ever get the chance to

571
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: go experience. I definitely believe go to the Olympics. You've

572
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: ever seen some random game, It's all awesome.

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00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: It's it's truly, it's it's it's magical. All right, let's

574
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: see we went through interesting, interesting, interesting, Which one if

575
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Speaker 1: your co host was a potato, how would he be prepared?

576
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, this is about the good. This is too sexual.

577
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: I can't even think of anything as saying with that

578
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: doesn't sound weird because I was gonna say, I don't know,

579
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: it's stuff i'd stuff. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

580
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 2: I don't know how to answer this one chat.

581
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd be our grotten. You know.

582
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: I like the Devil's lettuce, So I guess i'd be

583
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: a baked potato a.

584
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: Lot of flavor. I think it'd be fantastic. Okay, let's

585
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: see if we got time for one more. Oh, okay,

586
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: here's one. We had seth Rolins on the podcast. Yeah,

587
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: before WrestleMania. We had that in early April. Someone said

588
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: that was surprisingly fun. Thank you for the backhanded compliment,

589
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: even though he isn't a pro sports figure in the

590
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: classical definition. Who are some non sports figures we both

591
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: love to interview on the show Non sports figures we'd

592
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: love to interview on the show. This tough one.

593
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: It is easy for me if you know I love comedy.

594
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: It's you know, every day I'm like, how do I

595
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: get out of bed today?

596
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: Chat?

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00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 2: You know, I say to myself to watch some comedy.

598
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: That's what I'm getting up to go watch today. So

599
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: it's it's everything, Like anytime I'm down, I know a

600
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 2: lot of people like music that brings me other funk.

601
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: For me, it's comedy. So anytime Chad wants to have

602
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: a comedian on here, I would love it. But you know,

603
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: the comedians that do sports bet not many of them

604
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: talk about it. So the couple we do know about

605
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: were it would definitely try to get him on here eventually.

606
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, my number one if if he

607
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: still listens, Daniel Tosh, dude, come on here, We'll talk

608
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: Miami football whatever you want. I mean, me and Chad

609
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: will say two is the greatest quarterback ever. If that

610
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: gets you on here, just just any comedian that sports

611
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: bet I would love it because even talking about Ron's like,

612
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 2: you could see he was a really diehard Bears fan.

613
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: And that's what me and Chad like. We don't have

614
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: to talk to just football experts. We talked to fans.

615
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: It's just as fun, right, Like, at the end of

616
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: the day, that's all of us are. It doesn't matter

617
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 2: if you're the greatest expert in the world, you're gonna

618
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: be a fan the end of the day. So yeah,

619
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: I would go comedy for the next next person I

620
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: had one on.

621
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Speaker 1: I think Alfred Hitchcock would be really interesting.

622
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: Would can't go wrong with that one.

623
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: With that one, I wouldn't mind. Bono would be great.

624
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: I'd love to have Bono on the show.

625
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't you kidding, asshole? Isn't he fuck that?

626
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: I think he's so much more self aware now. I

627
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: think he jokes about sort of.

628
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: Putting all of his put his album on all of

629
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 2: our iPhones.

630
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: Like about his ego and his god complex, and I

631
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: think he totally I think he totally makes fun, uh,

632
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: makes fun of all that. But I like the idea

633
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: of I like the idea of Hitchcock because he's so

634
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: revolutionized a genre and would have the best freaking stories

635
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: to tell about Hollywood that like at a time where

636
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: I feel like everything went in a way that it

637
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: doesn't today, and like that was a Ryebald time. Oh yeah,

638
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: my wife would say comedy too. My wife's whenever my

639
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: wife is in a bad mood. Uh, she like, she

640
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: watches stand up comedy all the time. It's her favorite thing.

641
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: And but whenever she's in a bad mood, she watches

642
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake Andy Samberg Dick in the Box. I can't

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