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Speaker 2: Welcome in, Good morning to you. It's Dan Patrick Show,

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Speaker 3: Do Do Do Do Do, Do, Do Do Do.

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Speaker 2: Doot with Dan Byer, Jason Stewart, Chris Proffet. I'm Doug Gottlieb,

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Speaker 2: the Doug Gottlieb Show crew, sitting in for Dan and

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Speaker 2: the Dan Nuts here as we get ready for football season.

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Speaker 2: While we continue to ride out the wave of the

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Speaker 2: Brewers winning streak. Uh, the Angels winning streak. Huh, you

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Speaker 2: can put a halo on that one as the angel

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Speaker 2: sweep the Dodgers. I'm sure there's other stuff going on

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Speaker 2: in sports, and we're gonna get to this Shador Sanders

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Speaker 2: topic in one second. I do think that there's this

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Speaker 2: is a real thing, Dan, I think this year has

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Speaker 2: been a abject disaster for the w NBA from this standpoint. Well,

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Speaker 2: you can be the most ardent WNBA. I can't stand

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Speaker 2: the women and how they treat Caitlyn Clark, or how

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Speaker 2: the level of play or the promotion of it, or

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Speaker 2: putting them on ads instead of NBA players or whatever.

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Speaker 2: There's plenty of guys out there that feel that way, right,

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Speaker 2: But their main attraction is Caitlyn Clark. She has not

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Speaker 2: played during the meat of summer, and by the time

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Speaker 2: she comes back and plays, football is being played and

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Speaker 2: zero people care about the WNBA. Now there's and there

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Speaker 2: was a there's a growing following. And I'm just telling you,

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Speaker 2: like that last summer, not putting her on the Olympic

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Speaker 2: team was messy. It probably helped her personally as she

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Speaker 2: it was just too much of a whirlwind and she

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Speaker 2: got kind of got her stuff together for the playoff run,

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Speaker 2: but it did not promote the sport. And then the

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Speaker 2: one woman that drives ratings to the sport isn't playing

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Speaker 2: all summer and she'll come back and play. By the

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Speaker 2: time she comes back, some plays, it's the end of August,

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Speaker 2: We're onto football. College football starts in with two weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you want to talk about missing a window, Right's.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about that last time. I was like, Hey,

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Speaker 2: what's missing? Why has there been zero to talk about

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Speaker 2: for like three weeks outside of Chador or whatever. And

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Speaker 2: I know it's usually this way, but I'd landed on Hey,

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Speaker 2: last summer we were talking about Olympics, WNBA Caitlin Clark,

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Speaker 2: and she's very much still alive, still playing basketball, but

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Speaker 2: injured right now during the one time of year and

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Speaker 2: nothing else is going on that anybody wants talk about it.

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Speaker 4: And here's the scary thing. College football is a week

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Speaker 4: from Saturday away because of week zero, the full schedule

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Speaker 4: obviously coming up with August twenty eighth, two weeks from today,

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Speaker 4: and then obviously on Saturday, August thirtieth, we get a

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Speaker 4: full slate of games. But Doug, to your point point

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Speaker 4: about the WNBA, I don't think any storyline was able

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Speaker 4: to grow. And I thought maybe we were gonna get that.

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Speaker 4: I thought we were maybe going to get more players

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Speaker 4: receptive to Caitlin Clark. We saw Sophie Cunningham make a

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Speaker 4: name for herself, and she made quite a name for

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Speaker 4: herself in sticking up for her. But I thought something

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Speaker 4: was interesting when the Connecticut Sun played the Fever and

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Speaker 4: they moved a game to Boston, and this was after

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Speaker 4: the little melee that they had earlier in the season,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, this could be good for the WNBA

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Speaker 4: to get Connecticut Sun fans, maybe to be a rival

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Speaker 4: of the Indiana Fever that did not happen. There was

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Speaker 4: no ability to make a rivalry with Page Beckers and

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Speaker 4: the Dallas team because Caitlin Clark hasn't been available. Nothing

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Speaker 4: was able to progress this year, and if anything, maybe

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Speaker 4: it took a step back because we see that it

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Speaker 5: Don't you think that the contrast has been offered up though?

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Speaker 5: Because Doug's point that it's been a disaster for the WNBA,

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Speaker 5: can you make a case that it's been a net

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Speaker 5: positive for Caitlin Clark and that she proved in her

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Speaker 5: on the Olympic team. This whole Sophie Cunningham storyline is

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Speaker 5: all about her protecting Kitlin Clark. That's her brand. She's

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Speaker 5: the other part to it, but net positive for Kaitlin Clark.

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Speaker 2: There's another part to the Sophie Cunningham right. She's an

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I think, but yes.

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Speaker 5: Being white and straight too, yeah.

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Speaker 2: All those things, all those things were, all those things were.

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Speaker 2: But I think most of it is that the part

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Speaker 2: whitewash of Caitlin Clark along with you know, being attractive

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Speaker 2: and you know, being completely different from what our images

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Speaker 2: of WNBA players was for the past twenty five years,

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Speaker 2: which has allowed us to hyper focus on a fifth

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Speaker 2: round pick at quarterback. Right, it's like we just we

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Speaker 2: have to pay attention to something. And I even think

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Speaker 2: like the Micah Parsons thing, because because the Cowboys thing

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Speaker 2: happens every single year, right, every single year, it's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: who can wecorate some sort of salary drama. We know

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Speaker 2: Jerry's ultimately gonna pay him. Let's ask for an obscene

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Speaker 2: amount of money. Maybe it's not the time, maybe it's

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Speaker 2: not the place. And then Mike Parson's really good. Cowboys

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Speaker 2: aren't but they're not terrible. You're gonna pay him. He's

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Speaker 2: doing a hold in. He's really under contract for three

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Speaker 2: more years without negotiation if they want to, so it's

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Speaker 2: gonna get done. It was kind of agreed to. Then

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Speaker 2: the agent was like, Yo, anyway, I think people are

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Speaker 2: completely over talking about the Cowboys, Like, let me know

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Speaker 2: when the Cowboys lose late in the season and fall

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Speaker 2: out of the playoffs so I can make fun of them,

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Speaker 2: or let me know if they get to the playoffs

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Speaker 2: and lose early so I can make fun of them.

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Speaker 3: But I've seen this movie. I know how it ends.

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Speaker 2: So instead we're hyper focusing on Shador standers, which brings

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Speaker 2: us to Dan Byer your thought on Shador.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So earlier in the week, Doug, I just made

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Speaker 4: the point that with the music playing in week one

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Speaker 4: reasons why he fell in the NFL draft, And for

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Speaker 4: as great as he played on that Friday night against Carolina,

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Speaker 4: it was everything that was extra about it that was

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Speaker 4: the reason or that I felt that he fell in

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Speaker 4: the draft. And none of that had changed, so there

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Speaker 4: wasn't an opportunity for Shador Sanders to maybe do things

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Speaker 4: a bit different. The reason why he fell to the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I actually I'll draw a comp to what

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Speaker 2: So APR probation, we can only practice five instead of

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Speaker 2: time that we lost have to be mandatory study hall

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Speaker 2: for your team, right, And it's not because of my team.

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Speaker 2: It's like two years previous team was an academic disaster. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: The point was that when we every player we took,

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Speaker 2: happens if he flunks out. We can't have a guy

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Speaker 2: flunk out because you have a certain number of points.

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody has to be eligible, and then if

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Speaker 2: they leave, they have to go find a school. Has

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Speaker 2: to be a four year school. There's all these rules

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Speaker 2: with they have to get a certain GPA in order

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Speaker 2: to transfer to a four year school to a junior college,

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Speaker 2: they're a freshman to another school. They got to get

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Speaker 2: a you know, a two point five, otherwise they hurt

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Speaker 2: you academically. So we had to evaluate who we take

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Speaker 3: To get rid of.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense, yes, And I think that was a

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Speaker 2: real thing for Shadre Sanders, which was, you know, he

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Speaker 2: disengaged and frankly rude. Everybody says it. I've heard from

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Speaker 2: real NFL people that it was in many ways worse

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Speaker 2: just because this was their way of I don't want

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Speaker 2: to be drafted by that team. And you know, coaches

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Speaker 2: everyone talks to everyone in the industry, they just do.

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Speaker 2: So then word got out that shador Sanders was a

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Speaker 2: complete jerk in these meetings, and then start to factor in, Okay,

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Speaker 2: well I might like him, but Dion's gonna want my

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Speaker 2: job because he wants to coach his kid. And oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: by the way, you're gonna have a film crew, you're

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Speaker 2: from a kid that comes from money. So there's the perception,

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Speaker 2: whether it's real or not, that he's arrogant that he's entitled.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants entitled on a sports team, especially from a

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Speaker 2: guy who's not a first round draft pick. You know,

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Speaker 2: and then you have to factor in your mind, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what happens if we cut him? Because that's a big

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Speaker 2: reason Kaepernick. There's lots of reasons Kaepernick was never back

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. Okay, he didn't want to be a backup,

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Speaker 2: and he was at the point in his career where

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Speaker 2: then you get an opportunity. But it was the big

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Speaker 2: at the time, said it's not that if I bring

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Speaker 2: him in, it'll be great, It'll be well received. He's

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Speaker 2: a talented guy. He's probably a backup stage in his career.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's not great at reading a defense. Remember

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Speaker 2: he can only scramble out to his right. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of things that but it was what happens if

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Speaker 2: I cut him? If I cut him, I get me

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Speaker 2: called a racist. I gotta lose half my locker room.

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Speaker 2: What happens for Shador Sanders if we cut him. You

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Speaker 2: know what what happens?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: How are we received? Do we do?

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Speaker 2: We look like clowns for taking this guy on? So

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Speaker 2: I yeah, I do see that. I I completely agreed

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Speaker 2: with your take, which is the the play.

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Speaker 3: On the fuel was fine. It was good. It was good.

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Speaker 2: I still don't know how good an army has, right,

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Speaker 2: it's still against but whatever, Like, let's not diminish.

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Speaker 4: It was good.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I agree, But it's the you show up and

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Speaker 2: you're a fifth round pick, and you're fourth in the

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Speaker 2: depth chart, and you got a dude bring in music,

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Speaker 2: hold another guy holding your bag, get like, what what

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Speaker 2: are we doing? That's not how quarterback is played in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Quarterback it's very much like a political position

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Speaker 2: where you got to rally everybody behind you and you

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Speaker 2: got it the same reason that politicians they go and

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Speaker 2: do they go to these like diners or they go

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Speaker 2: get ice cream, and they always you know what they

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Speaker 2: always wear. They always wear a blue buttonoun dress shirt.

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Speaker 2: They don't wear a tie, and they roll up their sleeves.

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Speaker 2: Right now, all these guys are ridiculously rich. Trump's the

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Speaker 2: only one to be like, I'm rich, I'm wearing my stuff,

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing the same suit every day. Like I don't

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Speaker 2: even know if he has like any you know, anything

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Speaker 2: else to wear, but all these other politicians they do

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Speaker 2: because that's the job. You're supposed to look like the everyman. Right,

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Speaker 2: It's America's team in college football, American's team in college football.

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Speaker 8: Good question. America's team in college football? Does just mean

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just you take You're allowed to

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Speaker 8: My first thought was Notre Dame. I think that there

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Speaker 4: And I think that we grew up in a time

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Speaker 4: And I feel that's why the tables have shifted where

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Speaker 8: That's certainly fair. I think that the elite thing is

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Speaker 8: when you look at Douay, Dan Lennon has both the

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Speaker 8: program year one nine and three year two ten and

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Speaker 8: two year three, twelve and oh and then even you

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Speaker 8: know even the postseason, right, you win a bowl game

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Speaker 8: your first year, next year you go to taxle championship game.

435
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Speaker 8: The next year you go to the playoffs. So you

436
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Speaker 8: lose the first game of the playoff obviously, So the

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Speaker 8: progression I really like. I think it's important to note,

438
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Speaker 8: and this is something that I talk about a lot

439
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Speaker 8: of comes college football, is this is his first job

440
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Speaker 8: as a head coach. He's thirty nine years old, maybe

441
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Speaker 8: thirty eight and you know, it takes time to win.

442
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Speaker 8: Herbie Smart one in year six, Ryan Day one in

443
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Speaker 8: year six. You know these other coaches that have gone

444
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Speaker 8: places in one in media, like Urban one in the

445
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Speaker 8: year two. At four, he was already a head coach

446
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Speaker 8: at Utah and Bowling Greed. He had to experience it

447
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Speaker 8: being a head coach. Now you're thrust in at this age.

448
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Speaker 8: It takes time. We saw it very clearly with Ryan

449
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Speaker 8: Date right even last year is ups and downs of

450
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Speaker 8: a single season. It takes time. I think we're on

451
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Speaker 8: the right track at Oregon right now. I was expect

452
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Speaker 8: us to have a really good season. Again. I don't

453
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Speaker 8: know if we win a championship. I think a lot

454
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Speaker 8: of things have to come together for that to happen.

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Speaker 8: But I'm excited about the sort of the path we're on.

456
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Speaker 8: Our conference schedule sets up really well. We should win no,

457
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Speaker 8: you know, no, no less than ten games, and it'd

458
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Speaker 8: be tough to go in to see let's go to

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Speaker 8: Penn State. That's a pretty tough game. The white Out

460
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Speaker 8: game Week five, they're off of buy We're not. I

461
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Speaker 8: got to go across the country. I mean, there's things

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Speaker 8: that will be tough to win that game. So I

463
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Speaker 8: think the ten eleven wins is probably where we're at.

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Speaker 4: Let's stay in the big ten because you mentioned James

465
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Speaker 4: Franklin and Penn State, like, like, is it national championship

466
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Speaker 4: or bust for the Nittany Lions this year? What does

467
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Speaker 4: James Franklin have to do to be able to get

468
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Speaker 4: some breathing room and get this monkey off of his

469
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Speaker 4: back of not being a big game head coach.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they win a championship. It's that simple. That that

471
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Speaker 8: I think is where you're at. Where you know right now,

472
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Speaker 8: you know it's twenty you know, people say they're they're

473
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Speaker 8: unreliable and argue that that they're actually very reliable. We

474
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Speaker 8: know that what they're gonna do, they're gonna be everyone

475
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Speaker 8: they should, which is what James Fakin has done now

476
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Speaker 8: for seven years. There's no upsets, you never get upset.

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Speaker 8: He wins the games you should and unfortunately he loses

478
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Speaker 8: obviously games he should as well. And that's where there

479
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Speaker 8: has to be that that change. But that's what one

480
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Speaker 8: or two games a year, that's it, right. I mean

481
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Speaker 8: he's a favorite in this team. Look at this Custer

482
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Speaker 8: right now, They're gonna be a multiple touchdown favorite in

483
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Speaker 8: every game, but two right, there'll be a small favorite.

484
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Speaker 8: Its organ at home, I think it's four or five points.

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Speaker 8: There'll be a four point four or five point dot

486
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Speaker 8: at Ohio State. You split those, you're eleven and one.

487
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Speaker 8: You go back to Indianapolis. You know you're a playoffs team.

488
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Speaker 8: So they're They're success will be judged totally on what

489
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Speaker 8: happens in the postseason. James Franklin just hasn't. He hasn't

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Speaker 8: won that game yet. He just hasn't. And until it happens,

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Speaker 8: I'm not betting against them, but I'm not betting on

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Speaker 8: them either. I just they have to win that game

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Speaker 8: against It's one game a year, maybe two. That's it.

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Speaker 8: That's all we're judging Penn State on, which may be unfair,

495
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Speaker 8: but that's what college sports and college leble the high

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Speaker 8: level can be.

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Speaker 3: Why don't they win those games?

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Speaker 8: Good question. I think one of the things you have

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Speaker 8: to do in those games is offensively, you have to

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Speaker 8: be able to hit explosive plays. And why I say

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Speaker 8: that is it's really hard at college football for college

502
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Speaker 8: athletes eighteen to twenty teen years old to have ten

503
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Speaker 8: twelve play offensive drives without a cast off and mistake,

504
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Speaker 8: and the sooner you can score, the sooner you can

505
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Speaker 8: get off the field, as sooner you put points on board,

506
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Speaker 8: the sooner that you press the other team. And for

507
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Speaker 8: the most part they did in the Big Ten championship game.

508
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Speaker 8: The problem is Oregan was able to match. But against

509
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Speaker 8: these Ohio States, the Michigans, you know that they can't beat.

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Speaker 8: It just takes too long to score. And if they

511
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Speaker 8: can find that in their offense. Now they went and

512
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Speaker 8: got three new portal wide receivers and they have the

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Speaker 8: quarterback obviously to make that happen. So that's I think

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Speaker 8: where the biggest need just excell to and Os wasn't

515
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Speaker 8: you know, strategy. There seems to be an error or

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Speaker 8: two in clock management and game decisions in these big moments.

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Speaker 8: And you think, you know, Franklins, you're fifteen. You hope

518
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Speaker 8: that you would figure those things out. But those combinations

519
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Speaker 8: of both those two things really hurt them in the

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Speaker 8: big moments. And again it's just a couple of moments

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Speaker 8: a year, man, that's it. That's all, that's all it is.

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Speaker 8: You know, they'll blow everyone else out, they'll win all

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Speaker 8: the games they should, but in those couple of moments too.

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Speaker 8: There was was it last year? Right? They the play

525
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Speaker 8: calling on the goal line was pretty bad. Years back,

526
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Speaker 8: they ran a terrible fourth down inside zone like everyone

527
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Speaker 8: knew was coming. Like those moments, they just don't win

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Speaker 8: those moments.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they had an opportunity to to Betoha State. You're

530
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Speaker 4: right there on the goal line, and then they can't

531
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Speaker 4: punch it in and Ohio State runs the clock out

532
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Speaker 4: for the final five minutes. Not to make this all

533
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Speaker 4: about Penn State, but obviously with Drew Aller coming back,

534
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Speaker 4: with all of these other pieces coming back, is there

535
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Speaker 4: added pressure? Like, is there a way that this backfires

536
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Speaker 4: against them? Because in a way, I think for a

537
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Speaker 4: little while for Ohio State last year, it did. Do

538
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Speaker 4: you think that could happen with Penn State this year?

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Speaker 8: They don't think so. And I'll tell you why. You know,

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Speaker 8: I was at Big tim Media Day. I was covering it,

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Speaker 8: so we talked to every coach, every player there, and

542
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Speaker 8: you know, James Franklin acknowledged the pressure that comes with

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Speaker 8: this season. I like that. I liked hearing that the

544
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Speaker 8: players talked about the pressure that comes with this season.

545
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Speaker 8: So they're acknowledging it up front now can it cripple you, Absolutely,

546
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Speaker 8: But I think the first step is acknowledging, like, yes,

547
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Speaker 8: this is where expectations are and this is what we

548
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Speaker 8: want to do this season. I think a lot of

549
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Speaker 8: times you hide from that, and then the pressure mounts

550
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Speaker 8: and you haven't really talked about it as a team

551
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Speaker 8: and really done the preparation mentally to handle those type

552
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Speaker 8: of questions they're asked every week, and that type of pressure,

553
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Speaker 8: it really kind of seats up on you, and that's

554
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Speaker 8: when teams fall apart. So I like the fact that

555
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Speaker 8: they've acknowledged that this is what our past needs to be,

556
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Speaker 8: this is what our goal is, here's how we get there.

557
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Speaker 8: And so I don't think they'll crumble. I mean last

558
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Speaker 8: year they didn't. They didn't rely crumble. Last ye bet

559
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Speaker 8: Ohia State. They haven't been Ohio State in ten years.

560
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Speaker 8: Last season they won two playoff games. Again, the two

561
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Speaker 8: playoff games they should have won. Right, it's a game

562
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Speaker 8: once a year that matters the most. They haven't been

563
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Speaker 8: able to win that game.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz joining us. You can hear him on Sunday

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Speaker 2: mornings here on Fox Sports Radio Countdown to kick Off.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he's both a college and NFL analysts, as

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Speaker 2: well as a talented radio host. He joins us here

568
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Speaker 2: on the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Feels

569
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Speaker 2: like a huge year for the SEC, right because the

570
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Speaker 2: last twenty five years been dominated by the SEC. They

571
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Speaker 2: got got it more money than God. They go out

572
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Speaker 2: and get Oklahoma and Texas. Oklahoma looks a little bit

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Speaker 2: overwhelmed by not necessarily the level of competition, but the

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Speaker 2: consistency of the level of competition. They haven't been able

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Speaker 2: to get right yet. You know, they don't play for

576
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Speaker 2: a national championship, they don't get as many teams in

577
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Speaker 2: the College Wall Playoff as I'm sure they think, and

578
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Speaker 2: reality is they deserve. But then when they got there,

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Speaker 2: you know again, it wasn't like it was all the

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Speaker 2: SEC teams in the final four. So what are your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on how important this year is perception wise for

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Speaker 2: the SEC.

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Speaker 8: I just hate this for them so much, poor man,

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Speaker 8: A lot of the just it's just it's just stinks.

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Speaker 8: Then they won the championship in every sport baseball, basketball,

586
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Speaker 8: and then they have two down years in football and

587
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Speaker 8: the world is ending.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Look, I mean I think the pressure is on Texas

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Speaker 8: right that the number one the country, and uh, you know,

591
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Speaker 8: George's won their championships, Bama's won their championships. Just pressure

592
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Speaker 8: on Kale and the board to be nick statement, which

593
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Speaker 8: is unfair for him. You know, Brian Kelly was pressure

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Speaker 8: LSU to have a year with the with the quarterback

595
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Speaker 8: they have not. Even the pressure is squarely on Texas, right,

596
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Speaker 8: I mean, you know they're number in the country. Parks

597
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Speaker 8: made the playoff two years in a row. They've been

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Speaker 8: building and building for this arch Manning moment, right to

599
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Speaker 8: have arch Maning as their quarterback and and and be

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Speaker 8: as good as they can be. I don't know if

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Speaker 8: the pressures on the SE see exactly. And you know

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Speaker 8: the argument, of course they eat each other up than

603
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Speaker 8: they do. But what's funny is you know, for years

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Speaker 8: the Packed twelve did did did the same thing, ate

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Speaker 8: each other up in conference play. No one ever said, oh,

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Speaker 8: the Packed well, you know, give them a break. They

607
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Speaker 8: all beat each other in conference play. And that's what

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Speaker 8: the SEC was talking about last year, right. Oh, conference

609
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Speaker 8: is so difficult. That's why we lose games in conference.

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Speaker 8: I think it's just Texas, Doug. I think if Texas

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Speaker 8: can play up to expectations. The conference will look a

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Speaker 8: lot different if they can't and they have some tough

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Speaker 8: games this year they do they you know, they played

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Speaker 8: Georgia and they play Ohio State. I think, uh, we'll

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Speaker 8: look at the conference a lot differently.

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Speaker 3: He's the one only.

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Speaker 8: So much, Thank you guys, having good week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, so.

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Speaker 2: They did the bills and it's basically a fluff It's

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Speaker 2: a weekly fluff piece in the bills there.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll find out here as we play Hard Knocks trivia,

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Speaker 4: Doug Gottlie, let's get to a game. Jason Stewart and

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Speaker 4: Chris Purfett are here as well. I kind of want

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Speaker 4: to rotate with you guys, just a show of hands,

652
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Speaker 4: and by that I mean who has watched and who hasn't.

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Speaker 4: Who has watched any of the first two episodes of

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Speaker 4: HBO Hard Knocks, Doug, have you seen it?

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Speaker 3: I have not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I've watched pieces. I can't say I watch service.

657
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Speaker 4: That's fine. Jason Stewart, I.

658
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Speaker 5: Watched the very first episode and I haven't seen the second.

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Speaker 7: Okay, And Chris Prefett, my Max subscription is lapsed. I've

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Speaker 7: only seen the first like twenty seconds with over in

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Speaker 7: the other end.

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Speaker 4: That is perfectly fine. It fits well. And unfortunately, if

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Speaker 4: you have not seen Tuesday's episode, there could be some

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Speaker 4: spoilers here from what you're gonna get? All right, Doug,

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Speaker 4: you get question number one in Hard Knocks Trivia. Friend,

666
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Speaker 4: from this you good? You can call Jason or Chris.

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00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: Chris has only got twenty seconds of material for you.

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Speaker 4: But let's see how you do on question one? All

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Speaker 4: multiple choice?

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Who was meeting with GM Brandon Bean in his office

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Speaker 4: during this week's episode. Was it a Sean McDermott, the

673
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Speaker 4: head coach, talking cutdowns, B wide receiver kJ Hamler as

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Speaker 4: he was getting released, C former GM Bill Pollian reminiscing

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Speaker 4: on good times, or D all of the above. D

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Speaker 4: all of the above. That is incorrect.

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Speaker 8: It was C.

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Speaker 4: It was just Bill Pollion, Brandon Bean, Terry Pegoula, someone else,

679
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Speaker 4: all just talking about the good old days and how

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Speaker 4: they have quarterback number one QB one is Josh Allen.

681
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Speaker 4: They know that. Why would you want to talk with

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Speaker 4: the head coach about cutdowns and get any footage of that?

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Speaker 4: All right? Question number two, Jason Stewart, This one for you,

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Speaker 4: Oh good. Wide receiver kJ Hamler was featured in the

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Speaker 4: episode because A he stepped on Josh or Josh Allen

686
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Speaker 4: stepped on his foot in practice. B was trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out how to get his electric scooter to fit

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Speaker 4: in his car. C he scored a touchdown in the

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Speaker 4: preseason opener, or D all of the above.

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Speaker 5: Just going by the first episode and how the most

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Speaker 5: trivial things are featured, I'm going to go with B

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Speaker 5: trying to figure out an electric scooter and how to

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Speaker 5: put it into his car.

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Speaker 4: Well, the good news is you're kind of right. It's

695
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Speaker 4: actually D all of the above. Josh Allen did step

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Speaker 4: on his foot and boy, what a crazy scene that was.

697
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: That was I'll tell you that was some good TV.

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00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 4: And then he scored a touchdown in the preseason opener.

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Speaker 4: That was crazy. I mean, you want to talk about

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Speaker 4: this stuff that you don't see or that you can see,

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00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 4: five times on the NFL Network in a replay. I mean,

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00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 4: this is what HBO's hard.

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Speaker 3: Not sarcasm to the listener, who I'll.

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Speaker 4: Tell you this is the hard hitting stuff that you're

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Speaker 4: getting from the Buffalo Bills. All right, Chris Purfett, you

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00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: want to step into this gauntlet? Oh boy, Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Let's go right. Question number three, Head coach Sean McDermott

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Speaker 4: made a call to was it a GM Brandon bean

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Speaker 4: about needing depth on the defensive line. B to Marv

710
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Speaker 4: Levy wishing him a happy one hundredth birthday. C to

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Speaker 4: his wife to say he was gonna be late because

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Speaker 4: they were working on a trade, or d all of

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Speaker 4: the above.

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Speaker 7: I gotta hand it to you, Dan, because anytime there's

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Speaker 7: an all of the above option on one of these things,

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Speaker 7: it gets bait. It's it's just it's sitting there. It

717
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Speaker 7: wants you to wrap everything up. I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 7: avoid it and hope it doesn't bite me. I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: say A needs depth on the O line. That would

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Speaker 7: be actually a really good conversation. We didn't see that.

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Speaker 7: We saw the birthday call the Marv Levy.

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Speaker 4: That's what we saw on speakerphone of Sean McDermott calling

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Speaker 4: Marv Levy wishing him a happy one hundredth birthday.

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Speaker 5: I love Marv Levy. Kyle an upset though that is

725
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Speaker 5: still were you guys also surprised to see that or

726
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Speaker 5: did you guys all know that years old? Yeah, it

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Speaker 5: seemed like he was ninety five when they were going

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Speaker 5: to Super Bowls.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's been old for a long time. People aren't

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Speaker 2: usually that old that long. But it's also, you know,

731
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Speaker 2: and I'm sure he was in football first, you know,

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Speaker 2: his whole professional life. But it's like it's like guys

733
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Speaker 2: that go gray early, they look younger when they're older,

734
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Speaker 2: Guys that go balderly look younger when they're older. Marv

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Speaker 2: Levy looked has been old for a long time. So

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Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, Marvel leaves old. I have no idea

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Speaker 2: how old he is. I don't know once you get

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Speaker 2: to like seventy five, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know if it's true or not. But the one

740
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Speaker 4: that's messed with me lately is that Vic Taybeck Mel

741
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Speaker 4: from Alice. You know Mel's diner was forty seven when

742
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 4: he was playing Mel like that one, Like, is that true?

743
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Speaker 4: I know like the Wilford Brimley one is the Cocoon

744
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 4: one crazy? But I've seen this Alice meme and I'm like, WHOA,

745
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: that's crazy because I'm older than that. Now, all right, Doug,

746
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Speaker 4: back to you. Josh Allen revealed A he improvs with

747
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Speaker 4: his wife at home. B that he called Patrick Mahomes

748
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Speaker 4: after the Chiefs lost the Super Bowl. See that he

749
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Speaker 4: changed his diet this offseason or d all of the above,

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Speaker 4: man oh man, A, that is correct. He does improv

751
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: at home with his new wife, Haley Steinfeld. Is improvably euphemism?

752
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: Or does he actually do acting improvisation? He said that

753
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: they they run lines, that they do some improv back

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Speaker 4: and forth.

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00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: Because well, what are you copying there?

756
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: If you listen to Busting with the Boys, because that

757
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 4: was also shown on Hard Knocks that the interview that

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen did with Will Compton and Taylor Lawan that

759
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 4: was featured and this was brought up on how Josh

760
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 4: Allen would he'd like to be in a movie sometime

761
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 4: and that they sometimes throw lines back and forth, but

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Speaker 4: it would be cool. I don't know if he did

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00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: or didn't call Patrick Mahomes, but if he did it

764
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 4: would have been cool to hear about it. Finally, all right, Jason,

765
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: this comes back to you. Chris, you're spared you only

766
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Speaker 4: get one question of this five question quiz. Thank you

767
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: for this. Mercy owner Terry pagoula A hosted a party

768
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Speaker 4: at his house with Vince Carter in attendance. B hosted

769
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Speaker 4: a party at his house with Bruce Smith in attendance.

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Speaker 4: C hosted a party at his house with Roger Goodell

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Speaker 4: in attendance or d all of the above.

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Speaker 5: Wow, these all seem equally boring. I'm gonna go with

773
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Speaker 5: the most random. He he hosted Vince Carter.

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Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, yes he did minority ownership share each of

775
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 4: them do in the Bills. Yes, but there was no

776
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Speaker 4: Bruce Smith, there was no Roger Goodell.

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Speaker 3: Joseel that doing it.

778
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Speaker 4: It was and again it's like a preseason, you know,

779
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 4: let's kick it off to the season. But this is

780
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: this is what you're getting, Like, there's nothing of substance

781
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 4: in believable A fifty five minute infomercial on the Buffalo Bills.

782
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Speaker 5: This trivia contest was much more interesting, uh than the

783
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Speaker 5: subject matter of the show. I got a question for you, guys,

784
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Speaker 5: Terry pegula didn't know that he owned the bills. I'm

785
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Speaker 5: glad he does.

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Speaker 3: You guy?

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Speaker 5: You are you guys very familiar with the early COVID

788
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 5: Uh early COVID theory where it went from a wet

789
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 5: market bat into another animal into humans. That's been debunked

790
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 5: by the way. Uh wasn't it called a pagula? So

791
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 5: the bat into the into human? Oh, Pengling, Nice work, Chris,

792
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 5: very good. I was testing.

793
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Speaker 2: I think I think of wedding singer with Julia Gia

794
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Speaker 2: Julia Gulia.

795
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just do. Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: He's Dan Byron for Dan Dan. That's coming to the

797
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: Dan Pasture Show. Candler Swift made an appearance on The

798
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Speaker 2: Kelsey Podcast. Who did that serve? What's our takeaway We'll

799
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Speaker 2: discuss next to The Dan Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio