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Speaker 1: Who doesn't love a good siege? You know I love

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Speaker 1: a good siege. Sieges have always and will always fascinate me.

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Speaker 1: I can't promise you I won't do a siege every

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Speaker 1: do siege week. Oh that'd be sweet, right, we might

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Speaker 1: actually do that. Wait a minute, do we just have

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Speaker 1: This is wild, It's like we do this for a living.

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Speaker 1: But one of, if not my favorite sieges of all

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Speaker 1: am sure others have done it in history. I will, however,

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Speaker 1: human nature. You do it, I do it, Jewish producer

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Speaker 1: Chris does it. It is human nature to simplify and oversimplify. Things,

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Speaker 1: I don't give you too many names, I don't give

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Speaker 1: All the time? We decimated them all, we got decimated. Ah, gosh,

422
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: it was a decimation. You know what decimation is, d

423
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: ec meaning tenth. A Roman unit commits some egregious error,

424
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: retreats when they shouldn't, something like that. They would draw straws,

425
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: for lack of a better way to put it, because

426
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: they organized themselves in small units of ten, they would

427
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: draw straws. The man who got the short straw would

428
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: then be beaten to death by his other nine friends

429
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: in the unit, in front of everybody else. Not only

430
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: beaten to death, beaten to death by friends who would

431
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: lay down their lives for him. You followed orders in

432
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: the Roman legion period, you were disciplined in the Roman

433
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: legion period, or you feared what would happen to you

434
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: more than what the enemy would do to you. Now,

435
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: let's contrast that with the Gauls and this, Honestly, this

436
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: is another one of those things. It is so funny,

437
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: how how it spans the globe. This consistent theme. The

438
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: Gauls were individuals. They fought for individual glory, and I

439
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: mean they're more free. People's right, it's a freer society.

440
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: But just like the Indian tribes, they would do things

441
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: to prop up the individual to save their honor. Honor

442
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: was a big thing. Oh that's insulting to me. I'm

443
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: gonna ride out from the group and I'm gonna charge him.

444
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: I must save my honor. Okay, now you're dead. The

445
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Indians had this for a while with counting coup. It

446
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: was called counting coup. Is this the Indians decided, not wrongly,

447
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: that it's easier to kill a man than it is

448
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: to ride out to somebody who wants to kill you

449
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: touch him with a stick without killing him. And I

450
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: do mean touch him and then ride away. They call

451
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: that counting coup. You just humiliated him. You're so weak.

452
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: I rode out and touched you and didn't even kill

453
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: you and rode away as a huge honor. Well, okay,

454
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: enjoy the honor. Boom. Now I just shot you off

455
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: your horse. Thanks for not chopping me in the head

456
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: with an axe and just touching me with a stick.

457
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: The galls would charge when they weren't told to charge.

458
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: They would retreat when they're not told to retreat. They

459
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: would individually just lose their minds. Very courageous. The Romans

460
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: all wrote about how courageous they were. Wasn't a cowardice

461
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: thing or anything. They just didn't have the discipline, discipline

462
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: and training wins wars period. Well, these galls do not

463
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: want to tangle with the Romans anymore. So verkan Getter,

464
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: it's takes his eighty thousand galls, cavalry and infantry when

465
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: he rides them up to a place called Elisia. Now,

466
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: you can you know what We're gonna do this together.

467
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if you can google image Elisia. Now,

468
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: I've watched a documentary on this recently, so I know

469
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: you can check this out visually. Let's just see if

470
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: they'll give you a good idea of it. A L E.

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00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: S I A. There's a couple drawings on there that

472
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: actually are very helpful. Yeah, you know what, a Google

473
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: image search would be very very helpful. Ignore that stupid

474
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: looking one that has the fort on there. It's a

475
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: gigantic plateau, kind of shaped like an egg, a big

476
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: oval shaped plateau. You can see it. It still exists

477
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: if you would like, you can visit France and step

478
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: foot on it to this day. Well, picture this. There

479
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: was a town on top of that plateau with a

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00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: fence with a wall around it, and as you can imagine,

481
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: that would be a really nice place to defend. We

482
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: always make this mistake of picturing these old forts in

483
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: old walled cities as some big you know, it's on

484
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: some big piece of flat ground with a stone wall

485
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: around it. Known, all these people, all the ancient peoples,

486
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: knew how to use natural form nations to their advantage.

487
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: There's nothing that beats a natural formation. You put your

488
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: walls and fences up to improve on what's already there.

489
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: Imagine how you could defend a place like that. Verican

490
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: Ghettericks takes his eighty thousand dudes, charges into that town,

491
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: slams the door and says, whoo, here we go. Now

492
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: we have a plan. In his plan as this, they

493
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: know they have thirty days roughly of supplies to hold out.

494
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: He does not think Caesar will be able to take

495
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: that city. I mean, it's pretty much right. Doesn't think

496
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: Caesar will be able to take that city. He also

497
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: doesn't think Caesar will be able to resupply his army

498
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: because Caesar will have to be outside of the city walls.

499
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: You essentially have to forage for stuff. If you're Caesar,

500
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: his plan is simply to wait him out. Caesar gets there,

501
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: he takes a look at it, and he agrees with Merican,

502
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: gett ricks. Well, we're not taking the city. We got

503
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: to do something else. I've got an idea. Hang on,

504
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: wake up and text, Text and eat, Text and catch

505
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: the bus, Text and miss your stop. Wait, wait, text

506
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: and be late to work. Sorryly, Text and work, Text

507
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: and pretend to work, Text and x surprised when someone

508
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: calls you out for not working. Text and meet up

509
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: with a friend you haven't seen in forever. Hi, Text

510
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: and complain that they're on their phone the whole time.

511
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: Text and listen to them, complain that you're on your

512
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: phone the whole time. Text and whatever. But when you

513
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: get behind the wheel, give your phone to a passenger,

514
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: put it in the glove box. Just don't text and drive.

515
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,880
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516
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517
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: and the ad Council. Caesar needs to take this city. Well,

518
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: he needs to defeat the people in it. He knows,

519
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't. I mean, it's just not necessarily possible to

520
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: go charging in there. He understands what this is going

521
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: to be. This is now a siege and we're gonna

522
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: see who's going to starve to death first. Now, I

523
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 1: don't know if you can Google image search this enough

524
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: to see what I'm talking about, but it wouldn't hurt

525
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: to dig into it if you like, you can do this.

526
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: During the break around that big oval platform plateau, there

527
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: are surrounding hills that's surrounded. There's obviously a big value

528
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: around the plateau and surrounding hills. Caesar takes a look

529
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: at these hills and thinks, well, I mean, if you're

530
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: gonna be on top and I'm gonna be on top,

531
00:40:38,440 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: tell you what I'm gonna do. Hang on. Jesse Kelly

532
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: returns next. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. That's a

533
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: really good question, Chris. Chris just asked me before I

534
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: came back on the air, whatever happened to Michael Ivanati.

535
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: I genuinely do not know. I think he's in jail.

536
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: He might be in jail. Look at Bob. I bet

537
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: she's in jail. A guy like that. Look, I'm gonna

538
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: get back to the story in just a second. Chris

539
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: distracted me a guy like that. Believe it or not,

540
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: I actually was pretty merciful while he was loosing his

541
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: mind on TV every day, because I can spot this

542
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: stuff a mile away, Because you know, I'm a man

543
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: of many skills that in all seriousness, though, I'm a

544
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: man of very few skills. But one of them is

545
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: I can spot trouble a mile away. I have There's

546
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: a reason all my friends used to get busted getting

547
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: you used to get busted at parties. You used to

548
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: get busted doing this and busted doing that. And I

549
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: have made so many stupid decisions in my life, and

550
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: my record is pretty squeaky clean because I always knew

551
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: this is gonna be trouble. I'm gonna duck out right

552
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: about now, And it was always about twenty minutes before

553
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: the cops showed up. And I spot it in people

554
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: a mile away. Friends, but pre wife, girl, friends, co workers,

555
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. I spot crazy, I spot

556
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: high maintenance. All I have to do is get a

557
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: whiff of it. I'm gone. Peace has saved me a

558
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: lot of trouble in this life, and it always ends

559
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: the way I think it's going to end. Michael Avanadi.

560
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: From the first moment I saw that guy on television,

561
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: I said, that guy is going to end up hanging

562
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: himself in a hotel room one day, or end up

563
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: in prison. There's nothing there but trouble. That's a dude

564
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: with problems. Oh yeah, I call that one too. Oh

565
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: he's currently under house arrest. There you go, Chris, all right,

566
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: back to my story. Caesar decides and it is amazing.

567
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: I almost want you to go look up a drawing

568
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: of this when our story's done today. So you have

569
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: the city all walled in on top, Caesar takes the

570
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: hills all around the city and builds an eleven mile

571
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: continuous wall all around that along the hills. He encircles

572
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: the city. Now and this will come into play here

573
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: in a few There is one gap in the corner

574
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: of Caesar's wall. That's where this big hill is. He

575
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: couldn't construct it there. But what I say wall, you

576
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: need to understand there's a huge, huge earth rampart where

577
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: it made up a lot of the fence and then

578
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: a wooden fence on top of it, and then he

579
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: had twenty three twenty three readouts, essentially big towers where

580
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: his men could stand and shoot things. On top of that,

581
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: he had ditches built in front of the wall so

582
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: they couldn't cavalry charge it. Multiple ditches. He had booby traps,

583
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: tiny pits with little steaks inside of them that used

584
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: to drive the gulls crazy, because again the gulls weren't disciplined.

585
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,479
Speaker 1: They just go charging out there and get yourself killed.

586
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: He had his Roman artillery set up. They're called scorpions.

587
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: Picture a gigantic crossbow, and they had catapults too, and

588
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: these things used to scare the galls to death, who'd

589
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: never seen anything like this in their lives. They'd fire

590
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: these obviously high speed projectiles. Sometimes they're sticks, arrows, rocks,

591
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. But if you're a Gallic

592
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: warrior and your whole life's been fought, you know, you're

593
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: fighting spear to spear, and all of a sudden, you're

594
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: one hundred meters from somebody and your buddy's head gets

595
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: removed from his body by a rock that got shot

596
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: by something. That's something like you've never heard of before.

597
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: He builds a wall around it and just says, okay, well,

598
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: now you're really boxed in and you can't get out.

599
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: This is a problem for Verican Ghetricks because Caesar is

600
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: finding ways to resupply his guys, and Varican Ghetoricks is

601
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: in this city, remember, not just with his eighty thousand men,

602
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: with the civilians who were there. He tries to break

603
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: out with this cavalry a couple of times, fails, and

604
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: then and this has got to be At this moment,

605
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: I am fascinated by fascinated, slash horrified. I just it

606
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: almost doesn't seem real, but it happened. Verkan Ghetorricks gathers

607
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: all the non combatants in the city and you know

608
00:46:54,440 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: what that means, right, all the old people, women, children.

609
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: He gathers them up and sends them out of the

610
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: city toward the Romans so they don't eat up any

611
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: more of the food that the warriors need to survive.

612
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: And he sends them over to the Romans, thinking he's

613
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: being slick, thinking the Romans will take them in as

614
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: slaves and then have to feed them. Well, you're not

615
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: going to outmaneuver Julius Caesar Julius. Caesar says, oh, no,

616
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't think we will take them in. Turn around

617
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: and go back to the city, all of you. They

618
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: turn around, go back to the city. Verarican ghettricks won't

619
00:47:52,960 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: let them back in. All the non combatants starved to

620
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: death in the no man's land between the city and

621
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: Caesar's wall on the outside. And the reason this fascinates me,

622
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too dark. But the reason

623
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: this fascinates me is not necessarily for the Romans. I

624
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: would assume there are plenty of Romans with a heart

625
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: who don't necessarily enjoy watching women and children suffer. But

626
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: at least these people aren't Romans to the Romans there,

627
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: they would be beneath them anyway. But the men in

628
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: the city, the gauls in the city, those are your people.

629
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: What is going through your head watching and listening to

630
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: your people, the innocent people amongst you dying like that?

631
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: What's going through your head? And you know that's not quiet, right,

632
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634
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638
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639
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Speaker 1: but and that's terrible. Well, women are children are not.

640
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Speaker 1: The Gulls are now in trouble because Caesar is just

641
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642
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643
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Speaker 1: council Caesar actually constructs this second wall. It is amazing

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678
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Speaker 1: boxes himself in a second time, an outer ring to

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Speaker 1: The Galls just simply could not get themselves organized. The

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Speaker 1: who ever did it. These two hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: thousand guys, different tribes, different bands, different commanders, and they

689
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Speaker 1: can't seem to organize attacks. At the same time, they think, well,

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693
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Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way against the Roman training and

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Speaker 1: the time. I'll take my sixty thousand dudes and my

698
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Speaker 1: scorpions in my walls, in my ditches over your two

699
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Speaker 1: fifty all day long. Have fun come on down. And

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Speaker 1: so they would try to swarm the Romans at different times,

701
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Speaker 1: and they would get slaughtered. And not only that, it's hard. Now,

702
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703
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Speaker 1: in this situation, you would coordinate with the galls inside

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705
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Speaker 1: and then the guys in the city would get ready

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Speaker 1: to get fired up and get ready to come out,

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Speaker 1: and then the guys on the outside would already be

711
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Speaker 1: defeated by the time the ones on the inside tried

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Speaker 1: to charge out and over and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: And Caesar's not losing, and there were a couple very

714
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Speaker 1: close battles. Remember that hill, I told you that was

715
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Speaker 1: very undefended. I mean, as he couldn't build the wall there. Well,

716
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Speaker 1: the two hundred and fifty thousand man Gallic force realized

717
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Speaker 1: that too. They know this country very well. They send

718
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719
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721
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722
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Speaker 1: leads the charge outside of the fort to swarm around

723
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724
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725
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731
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732
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733
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Speaker 1: goes right, they may hate the Romans, they're not going

734
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Speaker 1: way on earth. Gaulls possess the logistical will know how

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738
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739
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740
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741
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743
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744
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745
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Speaker 1: Two hundred and fifty thousand Gauls coming to relieve Arkan

746
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747
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748
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Speaker 1: attempt to save his people. Admirably, I should say, man

749
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750
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751
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,880
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753
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Speaker 1: statue built. I could be wrong about that, but to

754
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Speaker 1: his credit, no Verkan Ghetoricks rides up to Julius Caesar

755
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Speaker 1: surrenders himself and his sword. Now, I would love to

756
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Speaker 1: Pick up your sword. No, no, no, no, we're equals here,

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760
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762
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779
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780
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786
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