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Speaker 1: All right, a little history today with this show. First

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Speaker 1: of all, Rich is in studio today. Yeah, it has

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Speaker 1: been a long time since I've seen you, my friend,

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Speaker 1: face to face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've we've been like passing ships, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of it is due to the technologies offered

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Speaker 2: to us in modern society. And then also, look, I've

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Speaker 2: I've had a couple of things pop up over the

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Speaker 2: past bunch of weekends that have prevented me from doing

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Speaker 2: this show and others. But you know, when you're being

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Speaker 2: invited to swanky events, you got to show sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want you to take a good look at

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Speaker 1: the studio because you're not going to see it again.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, I got the email. Next weekend we

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Speaker 1: will be moved into the new studios across the hall here, Iowa,

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Speaker 1: Sam is getting ready? Sam? Are you sure that you're

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Speaker 1: ready for the new studios, the new technology, because I

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Speaker 1: know the board that you're looking at has been around

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Speaker 1: since when When is how long has that board been around?

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Speaker 1: It was at nineteen seventy eight, I believe. I believe

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Speaker 1: it's got the decades. It's got the wood framing around that.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's when you know it's nostalgic at least

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Speaker 1: the early nineties. Yeah, I mean I have been in

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Speaker 1: these studios for like almost twenty years.

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Speaker 2: You came with the studio pretty much was crazy, Like

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Speaker 2: they converted an old Denny's and they're like, there's a

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Speaker 2: gentleman who worked the line for a while here, and

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Speaker 2: well he wants to stay and talk.

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Speaker 1: If these walls could talk, I mean wow, I mean hello.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, next weekend we're going to be new studios.

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Speaker 1: It will be the same same, but it won't be

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Speaker 1: it will be so anyway, I'm just started taking it

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Speaker 1: all in and just remembering everything good and bad that

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Speaker 1: has happened in these studios. We got a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about today, Richie. We got the NFL Draft coming

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Speaker 1: up on Thursday, and we're going to get into the draft.

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Speaker 1: But I got to start things off first of all

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Speaker 1: with what is going on with the Clippers. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so the Clippers and Sun's series. As you know, last Sunday,

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Speaker 1: we were here and you made a bold prediction. I

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Speaker 1: did a bold prediction that the Phoenix Suns would sweep

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Clippers. That immediately went sideways. It went

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Speaker 1: sideways immediately. But in the meantime, the Sons have rattled

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Speaker 1: off three straight wins and taken command of the series.

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Speaker 1: And I got is Manzi here already. I want to

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Speaker 1: get Monzi into early conversation here here.

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Speaker 2: She made it known that she was here. She came

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Speaker 2: running down the hallway halfway so she could be in

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Speaker 2: front of the studio windows here so she could wave

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Speaker 2: to me, because I knew exactly what was coming, right, So.

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Speaker 1: Normally we wait till the bottom of the hour to

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Speaker 1: welcome Manci Bolano. So months I'm not going to waste

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Speaker 1: any time on this. Everyone listening has been anticipating this moment.

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Speaker 1: Off you enriched together. First of all, let's go back

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Speaker 1: to that first game. Yes, why Leonard destroyed?

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Speaker 3: Yes, the Phoenix suck where he did whatever he wanted.

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Speaker 1: He did whatever he wanted. I mean, he was by

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Speaker 1: far the best player on the court in game one.

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Speaker 2: I know when he went off in Game one, I

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Speaker 2: was like, Wow, Kawhi Leonard's the best player on the

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Speaker 2: planet again. Yeah, and this is going to be a

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Speaker 2: Toronto Raptors run for the La Clippers. And I said,

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of eggplant parmer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you are. Yeah. And the way Game two started

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Speaker 1: with the more of dominating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, it look.

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Speaker 1: Like, Wow, if anything, it's going to be a Clippers

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Speaker 1: But you're like, all right, well, I mean, Kawhi is

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Speaker 1: And then they come home and they're like, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: And then after a heroic effort by Norman Pale and

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Speaker 1: Westbrook has a phenomena game, but it's simply not enough. Now, Monci,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about the Kawhi Leonards situation currently

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Speaker 4: It is impossible to not be frustrated. It is impossible

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Speaker 4: just something I don't understand. Granted, I've never played professional sports,

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Speaker 4: but with Kawhi it's that he doesn't play when he's

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Speaker 4: not one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: That's with Kawhi, that's his thing.

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Speaker 4: And for me it's like I played through so much pain,

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Speaker 3: It's like, oh can you walk? Great? You can play?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Let me ask you this, Rich and all your

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Speaker 1: I want to say zero, right, I want to say zero.

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Speaker 2: And there's really if you think about it from an

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Speaker 2: it's difficult subjectively to pacete like a percentage on how

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Speaker 2: playing less than one hundred percent. But there are certain

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Speaker 2: Or they have a higher threshold for pain and it

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Speaker 2: it's subjective, it's specific to the individual. And certain guys

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Speaker 2: just like, how did you how did you do that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Like Philip Rivers, who never missed a start in

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Speaker 1: one of those starts?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the players who played on a recently

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Speaker 1: Talking about in the AFC Championship. Yeah, because it was

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I played with a guy named Logan Mankins, who a

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Speaker 2: lot of people will forget. But anybody who played against him,

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Speaker 2: knows that that's one of the toughest and baddest dudes

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Speaker 4: And I hear what you're saying, but but it doesn't

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Speaker 4: because of load management.

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Speaker 3: So then what's the point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see here, what's the point? And this is the

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Speaker 1: great point, Moncey, is the idea of load management. The

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Speaker 1: theory is is that we're going to have you fresh

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Speaker 1: for the playoffs, right, But if you're not used to

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Speaker 3: You're not building up that tolerance exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's how you get ready for the post session. So

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Speaker 1: great in those first two games. His body is like, well,

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Speaker 1: we need a rest now, because that's what you've been

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Speaker 1: doing all season long. That's what you've been doing for

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Speaker 1: the last four years. Is that after a couple of

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Speaker 3: Both agreed, all right.

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Speaker 2: I remember reading an article last fall and it was

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Speaker 2: actually that track injuries. Now, I mean, this is a

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Speaker 2: like that, the amount of time a player might miss whatever.

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Speaker 1: For futures, bets or otherwise. But a lot of it has.

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Speaker 2: To do with just general interest in you know, the

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Speaker 2: they found literally no difference. There is no there's no

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Speaker 2: We want we want more time off the court because

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Speaker 2: eighty two games is too much and my body breaks down.

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Speaker 2: There is literally no proof that load management helps him

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan played a full eighty two games nine times.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever see him adversely effective in the postseason

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Speaker 1: because he played eighty two regular season games? No, he

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Speaker 1: he dominated in the postseason. So Montci, let me one

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Speaker 1: more question for you months, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're Steve Bomber, the tenth wealthiest man on

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Speaker 1: the planet, worth ninety Okay, that's all. I want, well,

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Speaker 1: it's time to blow this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, not blow the just get rid of him.

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Speaker 4: People probably would still want him, right Like, nobody is

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Speaker 3: So right now you can see that the Clippers have

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Speaker 3: a good team. Yeah, so get something for him. Jokingly,

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Speaker 3: I was like talking to both get shake Gil, just Alexander.

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Speaker 4: I know we traded him away, get Zion, do something,

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Speaker 4: do something.

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Speaker 3: But it's not working. Call it a day. Do something.

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Speaker 1: The Clippers have the highest payroll in all the NBA,

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Speaker 1: number one this year, paying Paul George and Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 1: forty two and a half million each for this season.

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Speaker 1: They're on the books for forty five point six each

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Speaker 1: next year, and they have a player option. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they'll exercise that nearly forty nine million in the twenty

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Speaker 1: four to twenty five season. I don't know how they're

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Speaker 1: going to do it, but I'm with you, Monci. It's

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Speaker 1: not working. And you got that new arena you're going

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Speaker 2: don't care what sport you're playing, starts with belief. If

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Speaker 2: you got players who believe they can, they can't, they can,

435
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Speaker 2: they at least have a chance to, and sometimes they

436
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Speaker 2: will if the talent meets at that intersection with belief.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's a big reason why you want veteran

438
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Speaker 2: leadership who's won championships or have gotten close deep postseason

439
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Speaker 2: runs on your team.

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Speaker 1: It helps.

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Speaker 2: So a d and Lebron there supply all that they

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Speaker 2: need in that category. The problem is sometimes when the

443
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Speaker 2: exceptional becomes ordinary, complacency can creep in. So what I

444
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Speaker 2: mean by that is when you do amazing things your

445
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Speaker 2: entire career and you've been there so so many times

446
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Speaker 2: like Lebron, like Anthony Davis when he's linked up with Lebron,

447
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Speaker 2: and you know how dominant you can be, there are

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Speaker 2: times where you quote unquote save it a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And that's the problem with veterans sometimes is they always think, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I know my body, I know my game, I know

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Speaker 2: when we need to kick it into gear, and when

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Speaker 2: I can throw it into maybe third gear, you know,

453
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Speaker 2: maybe I'll cruise in fourth gear instead of throwing it

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Speaker 2: into that highway gear. That's where you get that little

455
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Speaker 2: bit of sneaky complacency where you can get snuck up

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Speaker 2: on in certain games this series, like you said, I

457
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Speaker 2: think a little fuse was lit when Dylan Brooks spoke

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Speaker 2: out the way he did about Lebron James. But but

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Speaker 2: that's what I think happened a little bit. That fade

460
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Speaker 2: in Game two was a little bit of like, yeah,

461
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Speaker 2: we know exactly how much effort we need to put

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Speaker 2: forth to get this w and we will or or

463
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Speaker 2: you know, or in any game, any game, and that

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Speaker 2: that can happen. That absolutely can happen.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you think about Lebron James in particular,

466
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Speaker 1: a guy he's been in the NBA Finals ten times

467
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Speaker 1: in his career and has played the equivalent of more

468
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Speaker 1: than three years worth of postseason games, and we say

469
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Speaker 1: twentieth year in the NBA, it's like twenty three years,

470
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Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty nine playoff games over the course

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Speaker 1: of his career. I can understand it. This is why

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Speaker 1: the idea of having a four out of seven series

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Speaker 1: in the first round is ridiculous. Yeah, why are you

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Speaker 1: doing this. We're talking about players that are making it

475
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Speaker 1: clear that load management is a real thing in their world,

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Speaker 1: and you're still insisting on a first round four out

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Speaker 1: of seven, four out of seven, four got potential twenty

478
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Speaker 1: eight playoff game.

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Speaker 2: The best thing that ever happened for the NBA because

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Speaker 2: of how important Lebron and the Lakers are to their brand,

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Speaker 2: especially in the postseason, was Jean Moran doing what he

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Speaker 2: did in the fourth quarter. Yeah, because I made the

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Speaker 2: argument on the you know, the short of Eve of

484
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Speaker 2: this series tipping off, that if the Lakers feel like

485
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Speaker 2: a game is in hand, you may start seeing load

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Speaker 2: management in this series. You may start seeing some of

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Speaker 2: the stars resting more.

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Speaker 1: In the fourth cour We're seeing it with him being

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Speaker 1: Yiannis got hurt, all these guys, Yeah, getting banged up

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Speaker 1: in the first round of the playoffs, how legit. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to doubt if someone says they're hurt

492
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Speaker 1: they're hurt period. Uh. And this is what the Clippers

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Speaker 1: have said about Kawhi Leonard. They said, one, is he

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Speaker 1: going to be back? He'll be back when he's back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's find out what's trending right now. Very frustrated.

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Speaker 1: She is indeed manci by the way, it's I'm laughing

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Speaker 1: right again. It's it's not just Kawhi. Kawhi has become

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Speaker 1: the face of load management because he really is champion

499
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Speaker 1: the cause. Yes, winning that championship in Toronto that year

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Speaker 1: when he missed and you remember the weird thing about

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Speaker 1: it was Toronto had a really good record when he

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Speaker 1: didn't play. Yeah, they had like a really good record.

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Speaker 1: But that postseason run by kaw changed the whole dynamic

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Speaker 1: of the mindset of the top players in the league.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and it made it acceptable for him managing his

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Speaker 4: load like yeah, because he won that. Had he not

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Speaker 4: won that, I don't know if we would all be

508
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Speaker 4: accepting it. But now it's just gone to the point

509
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Speaker 4: where it's like very frustrating, very annoying when it's in

510
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Speaker 4: front of us that it absolutely does nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's trendy.

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Speaker 2: It's trendy right now, and unfortunately it's a trend that

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Speaker 2: hurts the fans.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this happens in all sports.

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball has been battling this for a long time,

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Speaker 2: with analytics being what they are. You know, guys swinging

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Speaker 2: for the fences and so the three outcomes. We've been

518
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Speaker 2: really hemming and hauling about the strikeouts, the walks, and

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Speaker 2: the home runs.

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Speaker 1: It's led to less small ball.

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Speaker 2: So Major League Baseball had to ban the shift in

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Speaker 2: the infield and institute a pitch clock, and it's working

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Speaker 2: and in enlarge the bases and all these other rule

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Speaker 2: changes and it's helped.

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Speaker 1: It has helped much better. Yeah, then much better.

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Speaker 2: The NBA has to craft a creative response. Otherwise they're

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Speaker 2: the gameplay and the interest in their sport is going

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Speaker 2: to decrease over time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, they have to basically say, hey, if you want

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Speaker 4: to take a day off, we're not gonna pay you.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna pay you half salary for the day.

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Speaker 1: Good luck with that.

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Speaker 3: You know what, if I don't go to work, I

535
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Speaker 3: don't get paid at all. So how about we just

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Speaker 3: paid that.

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Speaker 1: That would be ninety nine point nine nine nine percent

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Speaker 1: of us, right, so we don't get paid if we

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Speaker 1: don't want.

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Speaker 3: Something has to it has to do with money.

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Speaker 4: Where it's like, if you want to take the day

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Speaker 4: off because you want to help your body out, that's fine,

543
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Speaker 4: We're only going to pay you amount of your salary

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Speaker 4: for the day.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, But remember Rory McElroy. They had this new

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Speaker 1: rules about playing a certain amount of tournaments and when

547
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Speaker 1: he did not show up for a tournament, he got

548
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Speaker 1: fined three million dollars.

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Speaker 3: There we go. Sounds like we should do that.

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Speaker 1: Other sports are waking up to this.

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Speaker 2: I'm very curious with Adam Silver and these governors across

552
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Speaker 2: the sport of NBA basketball decide to do.

553
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Speaker 3: And that's a lastie.

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Speaker 4: I know, like I'm frustrated as a Clippers fan, but

555
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Speaker 4: I feel like if you're an NBA fan, you have

556
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 4: to be frustrated that you can't see Kawhi and Paul

557
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 4: George play against the Suns.

558
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Speaker 3: Right now?

559
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Speaker 1: Well that that was the point of Game one. Yeah,

560
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Speaker 1: here they are going against the Suns and you have

561
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Speaker 1: to rand. He got Chris Paul, you got Booker, he

562
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Speaker 1: got all these sons and he is dominating the game open.

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00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: Where has he been? Where is that guy? Remember that

564
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: guy before Leonard, Oh we all remember, and you're like yeah.

565
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: And then the old second game start of the way,

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Speaker 1: I'm like thinking, all this is gonna be unbelievable. The

567
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Speaker 1: Clippers gonna sweep this series. And then all of a sudden,

568
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Speaker 1: he's like just not playing, Guests.

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Speaker 4: He's and it just was abrupt. It's like, oh, he's

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Speaker 4: not playing? Wait what why?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

572
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: Since when?

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Speaker 1: And then I thought, okay, okay, so he's taken off

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Speaker 1: Game three, he'll be blacker.

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Speaker 4: Game no, no, no, no, no no, We're never gonna

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Speaker 4: see him again.

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Speaker 1: Change his name to co winn Quhen is he coming back?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Ah, he's got jokes, He's got jokes. Okay, guys.

580
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Speaker 4: The NBA playoffs do continue, despite Kawhi Leonard not wanting

581
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Speaker 4: to play. Then Nicks our playing are beating the Cavaliers

582
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: right now, thirty to twenty one, with about thirty seconds

583
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Speaker 4: to go in the first quarter. New York does leave

584
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Speaker 4: this lead this series two to one. It's Jalen Brunson

585
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: leading New York. He's got eleven points and four rebounds

586
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 4: so far.

587
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: Some baseball action going on, and because.

588
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Speaker 4: Of all of these changes, there's so much scoring that's

589
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: happening the Phillies. We're beating the Rockies, but not anymore. No,

590
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: they are back on top the Rockies. We're winning now.

591
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: The Phillies are back on top. Four to three is

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Speaker 4: the score. They're about to start the bottom of the

593
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Speaker 4: fifth inning. And we also have the Stanley Cup playoffs

594
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Speaker 4: going on. The Hurricanes have scored. They are beating the

595
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: Islanders one zero halfway through the first period and Carolina

596
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: leads this series to one.

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00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: Back to you.

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Speaker 1: Guys, all right, monsie, thank you very much. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: have already been voted on in the NBA, and it

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Speaker 1: is expected that Joel Embiid will be named the Most

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Speaker 1: Valuable Player. And part of it was the fatigue factor

607
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Speaker 1: of giving Jokic the MVP year after year after year.

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Speaker 1: He had won the last two and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you saw Game three Denver on the road against

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Timberwolves. But if you watch your kitchen this game,

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Speaker 1: you're you're you're reminded why this guy is in the

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Speaker 1: MVP conversation. You can easily make this argument. This guy

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Speaker 1: had twenty nine triple doubles this year, yep, and beat

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Speaker 1: had one. There's there's a reason why. So the fatigue

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Speaker 1: factor is nonsense if you are in charge, if you're

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Speaker 1: one of those select few writers or broadcasters in charge

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Speaker 1: of awards, and you're voting people based on well, he's

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Speaker 1: already got a couple. One thing I've always loved about

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Speaker 1: they have what they call the Heart Trophy, which is

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Speaker 1: the MVP trophy in the NHL. Gretzky wonted eight straight years. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they weren't choying about it. Eight straight years he was

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Speaker 1: voted the most Valuable Player because he was the most

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Speaker 1: valuable player. This happened with Jordan and Man. One year

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Speaker 1: they gave it to to Barkley, one year they gave

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Speaker 1: it to Carl Malone. And it's like, no, the MVP

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Speaker 1: is Michael Jordan. How about Lebron has not won an

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Speaker 1: MVP since twenty fourteen, probably should have won at least

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Speaker 1: three or four more MVP Awards, and it just I

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Speaker 1: know you think any of these words have zero credibility,

630
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Speaker 1: but it really for me that you know, actually has

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Speaker 1: a stake in it, have an interest in it. It's

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Speaker 1: very frustrating because when I watch Jokic, I'm saying to myself,

633
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: where would this Denver Nuggets team be without this guy? Right?

634
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Speaker 1: I mean, they would be a complete non factor. Instead,

635
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Speaker 1: they're the number one seed. Everyone dismissed like, well, that Jokich,

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Speaker 1: he never shows up in the playoffs. Really he's showing

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Speaker 1: up in this series.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this about MVPs and yeah, look, I'm

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Speaker 2: sensitive to the fact that there are people who really

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Speaker 2: care about All Star voting and MVPs and Defensive Player

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Speaker 2: of the Year and it brings interest to the sport.

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Speaker 2: I know why they do it. It's placating what fans want,

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Speaker 2: which is to have recognition for the best players in

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Speaker 2: the league. There's excitement around it. That's the reason why

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00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: people showed up in Vegas to the Pro Bowl to

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00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: see a skills competition that was barely a football game.

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Speaker 2: It was a flag football game. But people are interested

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Speaker 2: in seeing all the stars together and I get it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I think it's a popularity contest. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's based in fact or reality. It's subjective, and

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Speaker 2: you know, the people who vote on these things often

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Speaker 2: get it wrong, in my opinion, and so I give

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Speaker 2: it zero credence. I don't need people who are behind

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Speaker 2: laptops going to these games to tell me who the

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Speaker 2: best players are because I'm watching the same games they are.

656
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Speaker 2: I'm seeing the same sport they're seeing it. Maybe it's

657
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Speaker 2: through my subjective lens instead of theirs. Maybe they want

658
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Speaker 2: to go with the tide. I might want to buck

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Speaker 2: against that trend. Like, for example, you could make an

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Speaker 2: argument that Kawhi Leonard should win the MVP because you

661
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Speaker 2: can see a stark contrast between when his value is

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Speaker 2: added to the Clippers and when it's taken away. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's it's very obvious to me how valuable he is

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Speaker 2: to that team. You just made the argument for Jokic.

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Speaker 2: If he's not on the Denveruggets, the Dever Nuggets are

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Speaker 2: not being They're not being spoken about at all at all.

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Speaker 2: They're a dominant team in the West because of one reason,

668
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Speaker 2: and he's that reason. So yeah, look, Lebron, you made

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Speaker 2: a perfect point. About him over the years. You could

670
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Speaker 2: argue his value up and down the street. It's just look,

671
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Speaker 2: it's not wasted breath. Because again, there are people who

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Speaker 2: really care about this stuff. I'm just not one of them.

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Speaker 2: But I can understand anybody's frustration over how these things

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Speaker 2: are voted for or what is being considered when people

675
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Speaker 2: vote for these awards. I just think it's a bunch

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Speaker 2: of foolishness. But that's always been how I felt about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like when he went back to Cleveland for

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Speaker 1: those four years and led him to the NBA Finals

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Speaker 1: all four years, Yeah, against Golden State, and he didn't

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Speaker 1: win the MVP in any of those years. Come on,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just absurd. It's absolutely ridiculous out there,

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Speaker 1: all right, a little more NBA talk because the East

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Speaker 1: is getting interesting. Giannis's absence hurting the Milwaukee Bucks. All

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, they're looking up at the heat right

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Speaker 1: now between Boston Philadelphia, who's moved on to the second round,

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Speaker 1: and the Bucks, who's the best team in the East.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Steve Hartman and Rich Hornberger, Welcome back Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We are live from the tai Iraq dot Com studios.

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Speaker 1: We talk a little NBA playoffs right now, and as

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Speaker 1: we mentioned last weekend, when we open up the first

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Speaker 1: round of the NBA Playoffs a week later, would be

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Speaker 1: still very much in the first round of the NBA Playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if any of these series go seven,

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Speaker 1: we're staring at the possibility that, yeah, we could be uh,

696
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Speaker 1: we could be in this first round for seemingly ever.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at the East right now. The Bucks. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that was scary. The Miami Heat. You're first of all,

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Speaker 1: you're reminded of the Miami Heat. I don't you know

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Speaker 1: how many coaches in this league really make an impact,

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Speaker 1: but Eric Spolstra is one of the best coaches in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. When they had the seventy fifth anniversary team,

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Speaker 1: they named the fifteen top coaches and he was one

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Speaker 1: of them, deservely so. Obviously, they had the four year

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Speaker 1: run with Lebron, won a couple of championships, four straight

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Speaker 1: times on finals, got Miami to the finals against the

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Speaker 1: Lakers a couple of years ago in the bubble. They're

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Speaker 1: a well coached team, and I you know something about

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee with obviously without Giannis and they have other weapons

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Speaker 1: on that team. I just don't have much confidence I'm

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Speaker 1: smelling the Boston Celtics. I just I look at that

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Speaker 1: Celtics team. Brogden is a big, big addition, and I

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Speaker 1: just I think that that is a team right now

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Speaker 1: that not only in my opinion, would be the favorite

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Speaker 1: to come out of the East. I think the Celtics

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Speaker 1: right now are the team to beat for this year's

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Speaker 1: NBA Championship. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, the West is so competitive, so it has been

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Speaker 2: taking up a lot of the air in the room.

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Speaker 2: But I think the reason why we're talking about the

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Speaker 2: West instead of the East is because of what you

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Speaker 2: just said that it feels like there are a couple

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Speaker 2: of dominant teams and Boston inarguably is the one that

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Speaker 2: has had the most eye catching or eye popping entrance

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Speaker 2: into this playoffs. So it's a little I don't want

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Speaker 2: to say boring. That's probably the wrong word, but you

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Speaker 2: know what, actually, no, it's kind of the right word,

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Speaker 2: because inevitable outcomes aren't fun, they're not entertaining, so they

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Speaker 2: are a little bit boring, and that's the reason why

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Speaker 2: we've been concentrating so much on the on the West.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, whoever runs into the Celtics in

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Speaker 2: the final, which presumably if they make it that far,

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Speaker 2: is going to struggle with them because you talk about

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Speaker 2: a team that is a real team. Those guys play

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Speaker 2: unbelievable defense together, they can score at will, they're stars.

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Speaker 2: It's I mean, that's as good a basketball team has

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Speaker 2: been assembled since the Warriors of the early twenty tens.

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Speaker 2: You know that that's what well, I guess you would say,

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Speaker 2: really the mid twenty tens, when when the Splash brothers

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Speaker 2: were going off the way they were and they were

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Speaker 2: healthier and Draymond was doing Draymond things, that those were

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Speaker 2: the team the Niguadala, you know, those were the teams

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Speaker 2: that you know, had a run of dominance that could

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Speaker 2: be called a recent dynasty, and the Celtics they may

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Speaker 2: become that.

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Speaker 1: You know, Brogden was named the sixth Man of the

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Speaker 1: Year and this was classic Celtics. This is going back

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Speaker 1: to the Red Auerbach days where they would look for

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Speaker 1: that veteran. You know, Brogden with the Bucks and the

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Speaker 1: Pacers had been a starter. He was a starting player,

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Speaker 1: right and he was a consistent scorer anywhere between, you know,

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Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty two points a game. Boston brought him

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Speaker 1: in to be a guy off the bench, and Broad

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Speaker 1: didn't even admit it the other day when he was

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Speaker 1: announced that he was six Man of the Year, that yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is all different for me. But once I got

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Speaker 1: to this team and realize, a it's a great organization,

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Speaker 1: this first year coach that you know, the coach is outstanding,

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Speaker 1: outstanding coach, and he just the operation was so good

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Speaker 1: and the players around me were so good that I

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Speaker 1: accepted that role. And that was really old school Celtics.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's how they used to build their teams

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Speaker 1: in the past, to find a guy like Brogden who

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Speaker 1: could come in and give you something off the bench.

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Speaker 1: It's also like old too because it was built from within.

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Speaker 1: They built through the draft, so their stars are home

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Speaker 1: grown and they've had that opportunity. So one of my

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Speaker 1: frustrations getting back to the load management, is that a

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Speaker 1: lot of what happens in the postseason is based on

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Speaker 1: a chemistry that a team has built over the course

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Speaker 1: of the regular season. So did you all know each other,

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Speaker 1: You have defined roles, and you're a well oiled machine

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Speaker 1: when the games really count. That's where I see Boston

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Speaker 1: right now. These guys have played so much basketball together,

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Speaker 1: they know each other, and when it comes to these

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Speaker 1: big games, I think they're gonna perform so right now,

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Speaker 1: you know, barring injury. And I look at I. I

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Speaker 1: grew up hating the Celtics. I can't even tell you

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tight the Celtics, but I have to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: right now they're the best team in the NBA.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, I mean you could.

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Speaker 2: You could talk about tweaks that they need to make

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Speaker 2: ahead of Game four, like that was an upset loss

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Speaker 2: obviously to the Hawks, and Game three, Tatum should get

786
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: to the foul line more. They need more out of

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Speaker 2: their bench. But like you said, this is a team

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Speaker 2: where if they do make a couple of small tweaks,

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Speaker 2: with the superstars they have and the team being as

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Speaker 2: dominant as they are, maybe some of that complacency I

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Speaker 2: was talking about with veteran players who have been there

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Speaker 2: and done that before, sneaking into the equation a little

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Speaker 2: bit like we know when we need to turn it on.

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Speaker 2: We've been here, we know who we are. You can't

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Speaker 2: let it happen though you have to absolutely dominate, because

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Speaker 2: if you don't and you go go to Atlanta and

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Speaker 2: you lose two back to back, I mean, the series

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Speaker 2: resets and it's any one series at that point. So

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Speaker 2: you gotta get this win. You gotta get this win tonight.

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Speaker 2: You have to you have to be the superior team

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Speaker 2: for four quarters and then you could. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: series obviously is gonna go the way Boston once you

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Speaker 2: have a three to one stretch over the Hawks.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up on the next hour, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into the NFL Draft, which is now just four

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Speaker 1: days away, and there are so many wild rumors, so

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Speaker 1: many trade talks. All of a sudden, the Betty Nods

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Speaker 1: has shifted on who's going to be the number two

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Speaker 1: overall pick. We'll bring you all the latest draft news.

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Speaker 1: Keep it right here. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: rolling along here on a tremendous Sunday. A lot of NBA,

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Speaker 1: NHL playoff action going on, Major League Baseball in full

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Speaker 1: swing and e or Yeah. We are counting down to Thursday,

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Speaker 1: start of the NFL Draft. Once again, We're broadcasting live

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Speaker 1: of programs that I want to update you on. First

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Speaker 1: of all, if you haven't seen the movie Air, you

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Speaker 1: need to see the movie Air. It's solid. It's a

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Speaker 1: really good movie. Yeah, it's just a really good movie.

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Speaker 1: Sonny Vikara course came on with us talking about the

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Speaker 1: movie and what's going on in his world. And Sonny

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Speaker 1: has become a star thanks to Matt Damon's portrayal of him.

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Speaker 1: Viola Davis as Michael Jordan's mom just hits every note.

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Speaker 1: She's outstanding in that role.

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Speaker 2: You forget and she's a famous actress, Oscar winning act

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Speaker 2: but you forget who she is, like you get so

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Speaker 2: wrapped up in the fact that she seems so paternal.

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Speaker 2: She seems more maternal. She seems so motherly, yes, and

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Speaker 2: also fierce.

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Speaker 1: She she is.

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Speaker 2: She's out smarting the room in the movie. And it's

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Speaker 2: amazing how she had all these shoe companies fighting over

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Speaker 2: her son and pushing them to make deals that they

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Speaker 2: history has has you know, played out, or I should say,

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Speaker 2: the future ended up unfolding for them from that point.

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Speaker 2: Moving forward, Nike was very happy to have Mjay very happy.

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Speaker 1: I love when she has to sit down and uh,

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Speaker 1: Matt dam and his son. He's like, wait, we think

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Speaker 1: your son's very special, and she's a mom. She's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is, Yeah he is. I know that, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know he is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give too much.

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Speaker 2: Acting performances Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Viola Davis were tremendous.

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Speaker 1: You got to see this movie. Also, I have an

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Speaker 1: update on Winning Time. Okay, so the HBO series is

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Speaker 1: Zach for season two. Now, it's not going to air

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Speaker 1: until August. Got it. As you know, I shot an

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Speaker 1: on air scene, so that will be in one of

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Speaker 1: the episodes. And I just this week I went down

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Speaker 1: to record another scene as a you know, talk radio

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Speaker 1: guy like I did in season one. So but it

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Speaker 1: will be in August. In the social two will come out.

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Speaker 1: You're on screen cameo?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So not just your voice will be heard, this

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Speaker 2: will actually be a Steve Hartman on screen cameo. Yes,

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Speaker 2: will be coming in this season's uh, season two of

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Speaker 2: The Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 1: The Magic Johnson. Yeah, I can't wait to see it, buddy.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you crushed it last last season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and winning time for anybody who's missed that series is

866
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Speaker 1: worth is worth watching it. It's hilarious. I mean, it

867
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Speaker 1: really is. It's over the top, yeah, which is sort

868
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Speaker 1: of what you want based on a true story, how

869
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah. Yeah, maybe loosely at times, but it

870
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Speaker 1: really it captures the heart of a lot of the

871
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Speaker 1: characters of a team that a lot of people cared about.

872
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Speaker 1: It's far still do well. I mean, it's it's good.

873
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's going to be a follow

874
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Speaker 1: up from season one, it's not going to jump forward.

875
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Speaker 1: So and if you watch season one, if you haven't,

876
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Speaker 1: you should. It's quite entertaining. So a couple of programming notes.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got the NFL Draft starting on Thursday,

878
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Speaker 1: and as always happens at this point, just four days

879
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Speaker 1: before the draft, we're hearing wild stories all over the place,

880
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Speaker 1: right that you know so and so's moving up, and

881
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Speaker 1: let's talk about what's happening. We know this. It seems

882
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: one hundred percent certain I will never say, one hundred

883
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: percent ninety nine percent certain that Bryce Young will be

884
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Speaker 1: the number one overall picking the draft by the Carolina Panthers. Yeah,

885
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: that seems to be the one thing that we can

886
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Speaker 1: count on. From that point on, all hell has broken loose.

887
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Speaker 1: At number two, the Houston Texas Now, we had assumed

888
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: from the get go that Houston would select either c J.

889
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Speaker 1: Stroud or Bryce Young, whoever Carolina passed on. So if

890
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna go Bryce Young, we're gonna go cee J. Stroud. Well,

891
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: apparently that is not happening. In fact, the rumor now

892
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Speaker 1: is Houston may keep the second pick and not take

893
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Now, remember Houston also has the twelfth pick

894
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Speaker 1: in the draft, and it's conceivable that maybe a quarterback

895
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Speaker 1: they like will still be on the board at number twelve.

896
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Speaker 1: So you're saying, oh, great, so maybe they'll take Will Anderson. No,

897
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Speaker 1: they're not going to take Will Anderson. They're looking at

898
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Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson, the edge guy out of Texas Tech. And

899
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Speaker 1: yesterday talked to Adam Kaplan and talked to Bucky Brooks.

900
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Speaker 1: Where did this happen? I thought that suddenly, you know,

901
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: and this is interesting. I want to get your thoughts

902
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Speaker 1: on this. So Will Anderson, like two years ago, had

903
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Speaker 1: this breakout season in Alabama, and we're talking in terms

904
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: of a generational talent, right, This is not just like

905
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: the best player in the country. This is like a

906
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Speaker 1: once in a lifetime type talent. Didn't have as productive

907
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Speaker 1: as season last year, but still it's Will Anderson. And

908
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, this Tyree Wilson out of

909
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech is jumping him on boards and I'm asking why,

910
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: And here's what they gave me. Tyree Wilson is physically better,

911
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: he's a better player. Where Will Anderson has the edge

912
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Speaker 1: are his instincts, how he reads the game. The mental

913
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Speaker 1: game is where Will Anderson is better. Yeah, and so

914
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: this always is the back and forth argument because I

915
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: remember so many times we've seen guys that were highly

916
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: productive in college and they were downgraded because maybe physically

917
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: they didn't fit the mold, and then they get to

918
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Like Louke Keigley right out of Boston College.

919
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 1: He was a tackling machine. When the Nation and Tackles

920
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Speaker 1: comes to the NFL, guess what Stoley in the Nation

921
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: and Tackles. I mean the guy he understands the game.

922
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Speaker 1: So if you're scouting a guy and you have a

923
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: choice two talented players, but one is maybe a little

924
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: more physically gifted as opposed to a guy that just

925
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: seems to have better instincts for the game, which way

926
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Speaker 1: are you leaning?

927
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: So Will Anderson is maybe just a half step behind

928
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: truly elite edge rushers that have come out in recent memory,

929
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Speaker 2: like the Nick Mooses or the Miles Garrett or the

930
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: Joey Bosas recently, where you look at them and you say, oh, yeah, yeah,

931
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: these guys are one hundred percent can't miss chew In

932
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Speaker 2: will knock your socks off top of the first round

933
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Speaker 2: draft selections, and if they stay healthy, will absolutely crush

934
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Speaker 2: opponents at the NFL level. Will Anderson leaves you a

935
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Speaker 2: little bit like, I mean, just a smidge of hesitance

936
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Speaker 2: because of his size, but outside of that, he's been

937
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: an elite producer all three seasons that he's played for

938
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Speaker 2: the Crimson Tide, and he's the type of player who

939
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: you look at and you say, he's really the cleanest

940
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Speaker 2: edge product off the board this year's draft, however, Tyree

941
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Speaker 2: Wilson is one of those guys who just blows you

942
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: away with his stature, like he looks the part he

943
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: has this body where you say, well, if he matures further,

944
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Speaker 2: which he will, gets in the weight room, starts working

945
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: against you know, adult men paying mortgages and having families

946
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Speaker 2: and have been, you know, pillaging NFL defenses over the

947
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: course of their long careers as offensive lineman. When he

948
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: starts sharpening his iron against that iron, well, this guy's

949
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: the limit. So I think this is one of those

950
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Speaker 2: things where evaluators are looking at will Anderson and saying,

951
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: maybe we've seen his peak, like maybe we've seen his

952
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: natural ceiling and it's amazing, but maybe there's a little

953
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: bit more of the development and the potential that they

954
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: see in Wilson. That's the only distinguishable difference that I

955
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: can really I can foretell here because the reality is

956
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: the reality is Will Anderson is like the safer, cleaner prospect.

957
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: But you can look at that and say, well, okay, yeah,

958
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: but has he reached his full potential already? And that's

959
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: great and it'll work at the NFL level, But can

960
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: we build upon what Wilson has done at the college

961
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: level at the NFL level? And I think I think

962
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: that's probably the debate going on in war rooms right

963
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: now across the NFL.

964
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: So what has shifted was the idea of the first

965
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: two picks and some order being Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud,

966
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: to the second and third picks in some order being

967
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson and Will Anderson. Yeah, so that's what's happening.

968
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: So Arizona's sitting at three, not looking for a quarterback,

969
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: will take whoever is not taking the team Tyree Wilson

970
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: and Will Anderson with that second pick. So where does

971
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: that leave the quarterbacks? All right? So we look at

972
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: Houston at number two. Now they may decide to trade

973
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Speaker 1: out of that spot. I'm sure their phone is ringing

974
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: off the hook. But now they have new betting nods

975
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: on who the next quarterback is going to be. And

976
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: the guy now leading the pack to be the second

977
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: quarterback taken in this draft as Will Levis. Yeah, now

978
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: we've gone over this over and over again. Bucky Brooks

979
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: obviously doing all his work with NFL dot Com and

980
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 1: doing his updated mock drass he has never had to

981
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: to date, Levis has anything more than the fifth best

982
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: quarterback in this draft. He's got Rice Young one, He's

983
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: got Stroud, two. He's got Hendon Hooker three, and he's

984
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: got Anthony Richardson four. He's got Levis at number five.

985
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: And his argument again was he couldn't even win the

986
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: job at Penn State two years ago. He had a breakout.

987
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: You're at Kentucky did not have as good a year

988
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: last year, and they blamed everything. You know, offensive coordinator

989
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: was fired late in the year, they didn't have a

990
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: lot of the skill guys set and everything else. When

991
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: I think about the potential of a team moving up

992
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: to number two to get Levis, all he can think

993
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: about is the Bears moving up to two to get

994
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: Trubisky in the same draft that had a Patrick Mahomes

995
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: that somebody just falls in love with someone and something

996
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: about I understand he's got all the duels, but there's

997
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: got to be some level of production. I mean, I'm

998
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 1: not saying Lewis is not a quarterback, but to move up.

999
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: Look because like second pick in the draft when the

1000
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: Bears did that with Trubisky, and I'm like, did you

1001
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: see this guy in North Carolina?

1002
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 2: This is again you have to take everything you read

1003
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: in here with a grain of salt during this period

1004
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: because it's all liars poker. Yes, it's bluffs, it's it's

1005
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: smoke screens, it's it's trying to alter the conversation and

1006
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 2: get people nervous about where a prospect may be available

1007
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: in the draft. So say, if like you're holding a

1008
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 2: top pick and all of a sudden, you find out

1009
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: that you have intel that a team below you is

1010
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 2: absolutely in love with Will Levis, maybe you start pumping

1011
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: out some CJ.

1012
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: Stroud.

1013
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 2: Hey, here are the reasons why he should be falling

1014
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: down the board, and why Will Levis all of a

1015
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: sudden his draft stocks way up. Because if you're planning

1016
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: on taking Stroud with one of these top five picks,

1017
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: and you want to generate some interest in Levis because

1018
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: nobody's biting at trading up for Stroud, maybe you put

1019
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: out a smoke screen. Maybe you feed an executive clearly,

1020
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: I mean again, if you trust the source. Bob McGinn,

1021
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: who is a former a Green Bay Packer beat writer

1022
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: with the Post Gazette out there in Green Bay, said

1023
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 2: he had a source that said that CJ. Stroud absolutely

1024
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: tanked it. On this s to QB exam, you know,

1025
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: testing quarterbacks cognitive ability, he scored an eighteen percent, whereas

1026
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, for example, by comparison, gotten a ninety eight percent.

1027
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: You know, so this news comes out, and whether you

1028
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 2: want to believe it or not, he says it's sourced

1029
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: from an executive in the NFL. And so all of

1030
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 2: a sudden, that means these analysts are now reading what

1031
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: Brady Quinn had to say about him, you know, snubbing

1032
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: the Mannings on their passing academy. And this s two

1033
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: testing and will Levis's name skyrockets not only up the

1034
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: boards on these mock drafts that we're reading this week,

1035
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 2: but we're also seeing betting odds change favoring Will Levis

1036
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: over CJ.

1037
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: Stroud. So why does that happen?

1038
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because will Levs gonna be taken before Shroud

1039
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: could be, Or maybe it's because one of these teams

1040
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: who have a selection in the top five weren't getting

1041
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: any bites with Stroud being the presumed second overall or

1042
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: second quarterback taken in this year draft, and their phones

1043
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: went cold, and they want to see if will Levis

1044
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: is going to encourage more phone calls for trade for

1045
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: trade deals. So again it's liar's poker. There's so much

1046
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: information out there right now, we have no idea what's

1047
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: real and what's fake. And the craziest part about all

1048
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,479
Speaker 2: of this is even if a team drafts, say Will

1049
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: Levis with a second overall pick or the fifth overall

1050
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: pick or the fourth, he goes to Indianapolis or whatever.

1051
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: Maybe they absolutely knocked it out of the park. Because

1052
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: what's crazy about it is.

1053
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: Certain guys go to teams and whether it's the environment

1054
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 2: or the coaches they're working with, or the skill position

1055
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: to don't they have around them, or the way that

1056
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: they enter their NFL career, they're groomed as an understudy

1057
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 2: before they get to the field and they actually get

1058
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: them playing time or whatever the circumstances may be. They

1059
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 2: just they work and other quarterbacks don't and it almost

1060
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what they did in college. That's the reason

1061
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 2: why the Russell Wilsons are there and the Tom Brady's

1062
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: are there, and the brock Parties are there, because you

1063
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: just don't know until the bolts are flying for real

1064
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: at the NFL level.

1065
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Speaker 1: Speaking of, while rumors going into this NFL Draft, one

1066
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: of the biggest names in the league is suddenly out

1067
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: there potentially for trade. We'll tell you who it is.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Hartman, Rich Rnberger, Fox

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00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday. Be sure not to miss Draft Night Live

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio this Thursday night at eight pm

1071
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: Easterns throughout the first round of the Draft. Insider Jay Glazer,

1072
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Speaker 1: former Cardinals GM, Steve Kime, College Football Hall of Famer

1073
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: Var Arrington, Big Noons kickoffs, Rob Stone. We'll have pick

1074
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Speaker 1: by pick predictions and reactions to every first round pick.

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Speaker 1: That's Thursday, eight pm Eastern throughout the first round the

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Speaker 1: Draft live on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: You and I Rich have done draft shows together, some

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Speaker 1: as long as seven hours.

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Speaker 2: Dare I say, yeah, Yeah, there was one specific year

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Speaker 2: I want to say it was a handful of years

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Speaker 2: ago where yeah.

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Speaker 1: We were on the clock.

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Speaker 2: Doing a live remote for I mean, I remember getting

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Speaker 2: home and when you're on the air that long, and look,

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Speaker 2: it's it's not hard work.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the people where we were at

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Speaker 1: were very comminating. And you need more food, Drake, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's almost there's only so much it can eat. It

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Speaker 1: sort of like being on a long flight or like

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Speaker 1: how much you can eat all you can eat buffet

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Speaker 1: eventually you say no, mass you give it the older

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Speaker 1: Berto Durand and if you don't, your corner will throw

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Speaker 1: in the towel for you. Yeah we're done. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a dizzying amount of talking.

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Speaker 2: I remember walking out there, I go, you know, I'd

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Speaker 2: be satisfied if I don't have to speak for the

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Speaker 2: rest of the week. And it was Thursday, and there

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Speaker 2: was still more to talk about on Friday, because, like

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Speaker 2: we know the NFL Draft, there are fines in the

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Speaker 2: second day of the draft, and especially now considering the

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Speaker 2: first round is just is just the first day of

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Speaker 2: the drafts and so there are fines like a Jellen Hurtz,

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Speaker 2: for example, that's worked out extremely well for the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: just on that giant contract with Philadelphia. There are fines

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Speaker 2: in the second round that can really produce or the

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Speaker 2: third round that can really produce, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: see more and more of those, I think, because the

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Speaker 2: athletes that we're seeing coming out of the draft are

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Speaker 2: better and more ready for the NFL game than ever.

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Speaker 2: And the reason is twofold one. Sports science and development

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Speaker 2: of athletes has gone light speed. Like these guys are

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Speaker 2: leaving their r and they're jumping in with real technicians

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Speaker 2: who understand how to ready the body for the next level,

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Speaker 2: and guys get into some of the best shape of

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Speaker 2: their life heading into the most important stage of their career,

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Speaker 2: which is their rookie year in the NFL. And then

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Speaker 2: the other side of it is these NFL coaches are

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Speaker 2: more accommodating than they've ever been in terms of taking

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Speaker 2: the college game and some of the concepts that guys

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Speaker 2: are used to at the college level and slowly matriculating

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Speaker 2: what they want to do from a scheme standpoint and

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Speaker 2: not rushing it. It used to be, hey, you're coming

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Speaker 2: to the NFL. You're going to learn how to be

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Speaker 2: an NFL player, and you're going to catch up immediately,

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Speaker 2: and if you're not good enough at first, we're going

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Speaker 2: to We're going to take our time and develop you.

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Speaker 2: Uh Ah, Not anymore. These owners are impatient, these fan

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Speaker 2: bases are impatient. They want results immediately, and so as

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Speaker 2: a result, offenses have been dumbed down a little bit

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Speaker 2: and then sped up, you know, concordantly with the abilities

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Speaker 2: of their quarterback or their skilled position players. And that's

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Speaker 2: really had a profound impact on how some of these

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Speaker 2: teams have been able to get better instantaneously.

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Speaker 1: Just look at Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: I mean that guy had a coach really didn't know

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Speaker 2: what he was doing his rookie season, and he turned

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Speaker 2: him into a playoff quarterback Doug Peterson did after urban

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Speaker 2: Meyer was fired in one single year.

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Speaker 1: Ye yeah, yeah, all right. So you mentioned by the

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Speaker 1: way Jalen Hurts getting that huge contract, I give credit

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Speaker 1: to the Eagles. They believe this is the guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not going to quibble over well, let's

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Speaker 1: see what Joe Burrow gets or Justin Herbert. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to wait for that. We know now that this

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Speaker 1: is the guy. We have faith that Jalen Hurts is

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Speaker 1: going to be our guy for many years in the future.

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Speaker 1: Our producer, Bow, of course, is our resident Eagles fan.

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Speaker 1: I want to throw another name for you to put

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Speaker 1: into a Eagles uniform, Bow, Derek Henry. So yesterday Adam Kaplan,

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Speaker 1: who does a Eagles podcast, was on as the story

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Speaker 1: was filtering that Derick Henry is leaving the Titans and

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Speaker 1: is going to be a Philadelphia Eagle. So there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of layers to this story about why Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: at this point of his career is being shopped around,

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Speaker 1: and remember he's a twenty nine year old running back

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Speaker 1: coming off another productive year. How much weight bo do

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Speaker 1: you put into the idea of Dereck Henry being in

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Speaker 1: an Eagles uniform in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 8: I would like that, but I think it kind of

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Speaker 8: got cold water thrown on it almost immediately by everybody

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Speaker 8: in sports media.

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Speaker 1: I think you know why though, because the Eagles have

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Speaker 1: two first round picks.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, I would not give up a first round

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Speaker 8: pick for Derrick Henry of any kind. I think after

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Speaker 8: the draft you're going to see a little bit more movement,

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Speaker 8: like maybe a Dereck Henry trade then, or a Dalvin

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Speaker 8: Cook gets released. Ezekiel Elliott is still out there. I

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Speaker 8: don't think they'll bring him in, but there's going to

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Speaker 8: be some running back movement. But yeah, Derek Henry would

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Speaker 8: be a very pleasant addition to the Eagles running back room.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a great addition any running back room.

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge Derek Henry fan. The thing that always

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Speaker 1: has impressed me about Derrick Henry is that he's a

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Speaker 1: big guy who gets stronger as the game goes right,

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't wait when you're trying to put a

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Speaker 1: team away. If you're in that kind of position, he's

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Speaker 1: the perfect guy to have to put a team away.

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Speaker 1: The problem with Derrick Henry is if you have a

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Speaker 1: subcar quarterback, which he's had unfortunately too often over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years, and you find yourself trailing, then

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Speaker 1: he really is of no use to you because you

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Speaker 1: have to throw the ball to try to make a comeback.

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Speaker 1: What do you see here, Ritchie think Derrick Henry is

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Speaker 1: truly on the trade block? Are they just sort of

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Speaker 1: throwing the name out there, fishing around to see if

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Speaker 1: there's any interest, And if there is, how much interest

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Speaker 1: would you have in a twenty nine year old running back.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at first, when I saw this report from

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Speaker 2: Akbar Baja Biamilla, I was like, that's crazy. I wonder

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Speaker 2: how much the Eagles are giving up for this, especially

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Speaker 2: after signing up Jalen Hurts. You know, you sort of

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Speaker 2: almost feel like, well, the Eagles are setting the course

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Speaker 2: to be like a young offensive team, you know, like

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Speaker 2: they've successfully skipped a long rebuild and they have Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts now and like they're they're off to the races.

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Speaker 2: And it just it seemed like an odd choice. Now, look,

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, to your point, I had another productive season

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Speaker 2: last year. He rushed the football for more than any

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Speaker 2: other player in the NFL, and he's done that twice

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Speaker 2: in his career.

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Speaker 1: Prize average more than one hundred yards per game over

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Speaker 1: the last four years combined.

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Speaker 2: And you know, a lot of people say yards per

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Speaker 2: carry is not as important as a stat now with

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Speaker 2: more advanced analytics, you know, but he's almost a four

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Speaker 2: and a half yards per carry type running back. I mean,

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Speaker 2: and look, use your eyes exactly. I was going to say,

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Speaker 2: how about the eyeball team just as just watch the

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Speaker 2: guy run the football the second half of Titans games,

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Speaker 2: and you're like, yeah, if Derek Henry didn't wasn't wearing

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Speaker 2: a Titans uniform, nobody would be talking about the Tennessee

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Speaker 2: Titans because he is the reason why they've had any

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Speaker 2: success over the past half decade. But like you said,

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Speaker 2: there is a tipping point with running backs. And even

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Speaker 2: though there are extreme outliers in certain cases, is Derek

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Speaker 2: Henry gonna be one of those? The probabilities weigh heavily

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Speaker 2: against him. Now, he's a special athlete and we just

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Speaker 2: named a lot of the things that he's done that

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Speaker 2: have astounded us all for these years, and he's been

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Speaker 2: minimally injured also when you think about how much abuse

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Speaker 2: he takes compared to other running backs. But we're going

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Speaker 2: to hit that tipping point eventually, and it's not a

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Speaker 2: gradual decline at the running pack position.

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Speaker 1: It's the cliff. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's usually like whoa, he went from being a four

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Speaker 2: and a half yards per carry guy to three yards

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Speaker 2: per carry, like and it happened over the course of

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Speaker 2: a season, or like whoa, he was a guy who

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Speaker 2: you could count on and be durable, and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's hurt every single season. And so

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Speaker 2: whoever was divorcing themselves with draft capital needs to be

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Speaker 2: wary about that tipping point. It hasn't happened yet. He

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Speaker 2: wasn't traded. So then I asked myself, why why did

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Speaker 2: this information get out?

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Speaker 1: Who wanted it out?

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Speaker 2: It kind of feels to me like his agent may

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Speaker 2: have thought that some i's were dotted and t's were crossed,

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Speaker 2: or someone in his camp with the Philadelphia Eagles and

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Speaker 2: thought this deal was gonna get done and maybe gave

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Speaker 2: gave a preview to somebody who ran to Twitter with it,

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Speaker 2: and that happens and people get things wrong, or maybe

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Speaker 2: it'll still be right. It's just gonna be weeks before

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Speaker 2: it gets done. But I think it was to encourage

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Speaker 2: interest in get it and getting Derrick Henry's name out

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Speaker 2: there pre draft, so other teams bid at the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to get them all.

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Speaker 1: Right, if you are dependent on certain NFL insiders for

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Speaker 1: your NFL news, right, we all have our favorites, right

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Speaker 1: like this, I like to follow this guy, I follow

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Speaker 1: this guy, I follow her whoever. I'm following them to

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Speaker 1: get what I think is the best up to dated

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Speaker 1: NFL news in order for them to have access to information.

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Speaker 1: It's a give and take, whether it's front office people

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Speaker 1: for an organization or agents or for the players themselves.

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Speaker 1: It's a trade off. So in other words, I will

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Speaker 1: I'll grease your back. I will give you an exclusive

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Speaker 1: here on something, but you got to do me a favor.

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Speaker 1: I need you to throw my guy's name out there.

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Speaker 1: And this is and I don't think there's anything wrong

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Speaker 1: with that. I understand how that all works. It's a

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Speaker 1: former PR guy, I remember exactly. It's a back and forth.

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Speaker 1: So that's how something like this thing starts. I just

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Speaker 1: I would agree with both the I don't see Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry being in Philadelphia. Let me also add because I don't. Again,

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Speaker 1: they might be thinking, well, you got the tenth pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft, and you have the thirtieth pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft. Think about maybe you're gonna give up one

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Speaker 1: of those. Well, not going to give out the tenth pick,

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Speaker 1: but maybe you give up the thirty. They're not going

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Speaker 1: to give up the thirtieth pick in the draft. Think

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Speaker 1: about Derek Cannery, b Jehan Robinson right, think about I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you a guy give back charbon A of l

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Speaker 1: A U c l A sharbon A. I've watched him play.

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Speaker 1: Bucky loves this guy because he's a big back. I've

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Speaker 1: been I've I've physical. I've called UCLA games twice during

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Speaker 1: his career there. He's fantastic, big, physical, he's one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest, like he sticks out almost like a tight

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Speaker 1: end in the backfield like he and he runs hard.

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Speaker 2: Sharbon A like a lot Robinson. Obviously, he may be

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Speaker 2: the most talented player in this whole draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Gibbs out of Alabama the Texas tech kid. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the list is pretty long and and there isn't a

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Speaker 2: huge drop off. I mean the what's his name, Charles

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Speaker 2: Brown out of Illinois. Yeah, another guy like.

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01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: Very productive you have.

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01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: You have a litter of of super talented running backs

1289
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: coming out of college football, and we know tip like

1290
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,959
Speaker 2: the NFL edge rushers can be this way running backs.

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01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: I'm talking about high value positions that can really generate

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01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: a lot for you immediately during the rookie year of

1293
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: their career. Like that immediate pay. I'm just fitting in

1294
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 2: and I'm getting I'm I'm getting I'm getting play immediately

1295
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: and helping my team immediately. The plug and play positions

1296
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: like that running back has been a classes example.

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01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: So I again, like.

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01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: What I prefer to trade away a couple first rounders

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01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 2: for an insanely productive corner. Yeah, I would, because those

1300
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: are more or hit or miss for a receiver.

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01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I.

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01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: Would, because those are more hit and miss for a

1303
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 2: running back, especially when who's twenty nine years old a

1304
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 2: first round or a couple of No way, man, Like,

1305
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go into the draft and I'm gonna take

1306
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 2: my chances on one of these rookies who again, can

1307
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: be more of a plug and play type player.

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01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

1309
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: First round pick on everybody's board is month Seabalanya.

1310
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was sweet, by.

1311
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: The way, I told him to say.

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01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: It has there has there been? By the way? This now,

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01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: what are you preparing for? MONSI? Now what is it?

1314
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: The Yeah, egg plant parmesan.

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01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: That's ready, but it's not you're going to put the

1316
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: flame on it?

1317
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 3: I am, Yeah, I know we have to.

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01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in order for it to really fit

1319
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: me and the way I like to cook.

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01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 3: Correct.

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01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: Going to the last thing I'm going to do. After

1322
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: I bake the the eggplant parmesan eno and is I'm

1323
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: going to top it with the melt with the montrel cheese.

1324
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to melt it under a flamethrow. Have You've

1325
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: seen Rich's videos? Yes?

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01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, of course he has to use it. Yes.

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01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 4: In fact, Rich, I wanted to tell you the other

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01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 4: day I forgot. Did you see that Will Levis eats

1329
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 4: his banana with the peel on?

1330
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? I saw that.

1331
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 3: So you're going to do that next?

1332
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something that I'm actually really interested in drying.

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01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: How do you do that? I mean, so, how do

1334
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: you eat through a banana? It doesn't digest, so this

1335
01:07:59,520 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: be bad.

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01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 9: There's so many chemicals in the outside of a banana,

1337
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 9: some of the dirtiest fruits of eating a crap.

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01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: Can't wash it off. Of course, I can't watch like

1339
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: it's like rubber. Put a little baking soda in your strength. Relax, Iowa,

1340
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: here's weird.

1341
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, I I as soon as I

1342
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: saw that video, I'm like, here we go again, Here

1343
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: we go again.

1344
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: Yam you will levis you psychopath?

1345
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 2: I guess I'm eating a banana and I you know what,

1346
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 2: this one is less detestable than the I won't have

1347
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: to lose a bet to do this one. I'm genuinely

1348
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 2: curious what it tastes like. The the male and the coffee.

1349
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: I lost a bet and that's the only reason why

1350
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: I sampled that, Thank goodness.

1351
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: But the the the banana with the peel.

1352
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: Look, I'm all about efficiency. If I can save a

1353
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: little time, like if it.

1354
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 2: Ends up being a delicious tree, it'll be the way

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01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: I eat bananas.

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01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 3: From now on.

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01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 9: Please don't please don't watch You can shine your shoe

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01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 9: with a banana peel.

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01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 4: So just remember that shiny insides are you guys?

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,440
Speaker 1: Uh diyrofoam containers?

1361
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah for fast food. When I was in high school,

1363
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: somebody dared me to eat a big Mac while still

1364
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: inside the styrofoam container.

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01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. Why Yeah?

1366
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: And then I did No. One of my physics class O,

1367
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: which my physics teacher then gave me a dismissal notice

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01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: for the rest of the semester.

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01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 9: Indigestion after that one, well, still it's still decomposing of

1370
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 9: the old landfill down there.

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01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: I didn't actually eat it. I stuffed the whole thing

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01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: in my mouth. Okay, Oh wait, so you never actually

1373
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: ingested any.

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01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 6: Here?

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01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: Did intale? Almost positive?

1376
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: I was like, how did you survive? I'm pretty sure

1377
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 2: if you eat styrofoam, I just died. Your body's just

1378
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 2: like yeah, I mean, we're done with this.

1379
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 1: Challenge was to stuff the whole thing in my mouth.

1380
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 3: It got it, Okay, still not I would not have

1381
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 3: done that.

1382
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 4: Well, fellas, we got a little bit of a Aaron

1383
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 4: Rodgers news A tiny bit really absolutely nothing. But I'm

1384
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 4: gonna tell you what Ian Rappabort just tweeted eight minutes ago.

1385
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 3: He said, after a dominant or excuse me.

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01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 4: After a dormant couple weeks, the Jets and Packers recently

1387
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 4: re engaged on trade talks surrounding star quarterback Aaron Rodgers

1388
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 4: sources say a deal is not imminent, but the two

1389
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 4: sides are at least talking, with hopes a deal can

1390
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 4: finally be done this week.

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01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah on that.

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01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, so goy, hey it's something again. I'm so over

1393
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 3: that story, so over it. In the NBA, it's a tie.

1394
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 4: Game between the Knicks and the Cavaliers. Surprisingly fifty to nine.

1395
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 4: Oh no, Knicks just scored sixty one to fifty nine

1396
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 4: is the score, so they're back in it. Seven minutes

1397
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 4: to go in the third quarter. Still Jalen Brentson leading

1398
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 4: all scores. He's got sixteen points in Major League Baseball.

1399
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: The Dodgers are losing why to the Cubs two zero,

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01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 3: top of the second inning.

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01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 4: Nationals up on the Twins one zero bottom of the second,

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01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 4: Red Sox to have the early lead against the one

1403
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 4: zero they're about to start the second inning.

1404
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 3: Guardians beating the Marlins three to one. About to start

1405
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 3: the fifth.

1406
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 4: The Rays have homerd in twenty two straight games. They're

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01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 4: beating the White Sox four to one, bottom of the

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01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 4: fourth Pirates holding on to that one run lead over

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01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 4: the Reds, about to start the fifth inning. And oh,

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01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 4: the Phillies have scored more. They're beating the Rocket the

1411
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 4: Rockies nine to three. They're about to.

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01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 3: Start the ninth inning. And of course the Stanley.

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 4: Cup playoffs still underway, and the Hurricanes have scored again,

1414
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 4: beating the Islanders three zero, five minutes to go in

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01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 4: the second period in Carolina, leads this series to one.

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01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, Ali Montsie, thank you very much.

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01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: All right, here here's the latest on this Aaron Rodgers situation, right,

1418
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: and this is this is pretty important, especially for the Jets,

1419
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: because they're the ones that need to get Aaron Rodgers

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01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 1: in a Jets uniform as as soon as possible. Oh yeah,

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01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 1: if this deal does not get done before this draft,

1422
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 1: this deal probably he's not gonna get done until whatever,

1423
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: because the leverage then is really on the Packers. Here's

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01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: what you got to consider, and this gets back to

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01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: what are the Jets willing to give up for Aaron Rodgers?

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01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: All right, so they have the thirteenth overall pick that's untouchable.

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01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: They got back to back picks on the second round

1428
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: at forty two and forty three. Now, if I'm the

1429
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, I'm eyeing those two picks because after

1430
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: that they don't have a third round pick the Jets,

1431
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: So those are the two picks I'm looking at, And

1432
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: the Jets are like, no, we're not giving up back

1433
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: to back picks in the second round for Aaron Rodgers.

1434
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,839
Speaker 1: If this deal does not get done before the draft,

1435
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: then after the draft, all bets are off Packers. They

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01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 1: have no money that's due Aaron Rodgers until the start

1437
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: of the season, so there's not you know, some kind

1438
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: of bonus that kicks in with camps, and none of

1439
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: that is on the table with the Packers. They've already

1440
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: moved on. Jordan Love is going to be their quarterback

1441
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. So they're going to sit there

1442
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: and say to the Jets, all right, you don't want

1443
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: to get a deal done now, good luck, because we'll

1444
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 1: we'll release him and you can you can fend with

1445
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: everybody else, but it's going to be late in the season.

1446
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: So if I were the Jets, right, I ask you again,

1447
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: the Jets have so many great pieces in place. They

1448
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: had such a productive draft last year. They had the

1449
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: offensive Rookie of the year, the defensive rookie of the year,

1450
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: and brace Hall who might have been the offensive rookie

1451
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: of the year had he not gotten hurt. So I

1452
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: had a great draft last year. I wouldn't hesitate if

1453
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: the Packers want those two second round picks done, get

1454
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in asap. What are you quibbling about? Hang

1455
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: on a second though.

1456
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 2: So I always like to compare quarterbacks to the real

1457
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 2: estate market because it makes the most sense to me

1458
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: to compare quarterbacks to houses, because they're usually long term

1459
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 2: decision or really expensive short term decision.

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01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: Right.

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01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 2: So, just like the housing market, if you're gonna if

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01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: you're going to invest in an expensive neighborhood, the best

1463
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,799
Speaker 2: things to buy are the worst houses on the block

1464
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: that you can sort of renovate and make it match

1465
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: the neighborhood and increase the asset value. Think Jalen Hurts.

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01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, I mean when you talk about him in

1467
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: terms of Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, does he

1468
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 2: really fit in that conversation? No, he doesn't, But is

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 2: he is? He like a guy who's developing into a

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01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 2: real quarterback at the NFL level. Yeah, I mean, was

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01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 2: his development expedited by being surrounded by a lot of

1472
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: talent offensively and defensively?

1473
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 1: Mind you? Yeah?

1474
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 2: And could I see him growing into one of the

1475
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: elite quarterbacks in the NFL. Sure, but he's not there yet.

1476
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: But they've made a investment where they may be overpaying

1477
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: him on the front end of this contract. But this

1478
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: contract will a well with the Philadelphia Eagles and Jellen

1479
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: Hurts because they're they're going to be paying him in

1480
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: concordance with his output at some point, and then they're

1481
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 2: hoping to surpass that with his output actually being more

1482
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 2: than what he's actually deserved or owed on this contract.

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01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: That's the goal, right, It's to buy that the lesser

1484
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 2: house on the best block and then renovated into what

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01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: you hope it should look like in that neighborhood. In

1486
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: terms of a guy like Aaron Rodgers, boil boy, you

1487
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: do not want to pay too much here, you know.

1488
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 2: So the Green Bay Packers have made it publicly known

1489
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 2: they don't need a number one for Aaron, but they

1490
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 2: also know that Aaron has kind of kneecapped them because

1491
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 2: he said publicly the only team I want to go

1492
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: to is the Jets. So the Jets have leverage here,

1493
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: and the Jets don't need to overpay immediately. They can

1494
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: wait all the way until the draft to spend the

1495
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 2: capitol necessary requisite to get Aaron in.

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01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: So I actually don't mind that they're doing this. I'm

1497
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: going to explain we're case scenario still being the best

1498
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: case scenario for the Jets. This is Fox Sports Sunday

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01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: Conversation Never Sees the Zomaze Steve Harman and Rich Ornberger,

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday Live from the tai Iraq dot Com Studios.

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Speaker 1: I just want to get back to the Jets for

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Speaker 1: a second here. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, because the last thing you said to me, and

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Speaker 2: we didn't discuss this at all at the break, we

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Speaker 2: were discussing some other stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the.

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Speaker 2: Last thing you said to me was I can explain

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Speaker 2: to you why the worst case scenario for the Jets

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Speaker 2: he's actually the best case scenario. And I am now

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Speaker 2: waiting with baited breath, okay, to hear how this makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Worst case scenario for the Jets, they overspend on Rogers

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Speaker 1: and he leaves after one year, okay, and then he's

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Speaker 1: gone and you're back to ground zero.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: Let's say he gave up two number one two two's

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Speaker 1: those two second round picks and Rogers comes in and

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Speaker 1: after the year he leaves. Need I remind you that

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Speaker 1: the Jets have not been in the postseason since twenty ten,

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Speaker 1: with the Sacramento Kings finally getting into the playoffs this year.

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Speaker 1: In the four major team sports in this country, no

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Speaker 1: team has had a longer draft than the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: My guess is that a very motivated Aaron Rodgers, much

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Speaker 1: as a very motivated Tom Brady led Tampa Bay all

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Speaker 1: the way to a Super Bowl championship, at the very least,

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Speaker 1: a motivated Aaron Rodgers will get you to the postseason.

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Speaker 1: When you think about going from Zach Wilson to Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: with all the young talent they have around him, they

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Speaker 1: will be a playoff team. So even if he were

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Speaker 1: to leave after the year, maybe they may even make

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Speaker 1: a run to let's say the conference championship game. It's

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Speaker 1: worth it because you've got to bring a certain winning

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Speaker 1: mentality back to that team. So even if he were

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Speaker 1: to leave after that year, he is infused. Plus you

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Speaker 1: still have Zach Wilson all right, and suddenly he's been

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Speaker 1: at the feet of the master. I believe that even

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Speaker 1: if worst case scenario you overspend, he leaves after one year.

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Speaker 1: My guess is, if he has success the first year,

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Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere because he's being paid a lot

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Speaker 1: of money. But I would if that were the worst

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Speaker 1: case scenario, that is still a positive, okay for the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Hang on, though, Yeah, let.

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Speaker 2: Me push back on what the worst case scenario actually is.

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Speaker 2: The worst case scenario is, after all this discussion and debate,

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Speaker 2: like we know has been somewhat of his track record

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Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers, he can change his mind and he

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Speaker 2: can decide. You know what, I'm tired of this. The

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Speaker 2: Jets are overplaying their hand. I don't want to be

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Speaker 2: in New York Jet anymore. And so the Packers are

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Speaker 2: either going to have to eat this contract and I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna play for them. I'm going to retire, or

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Speaker 2: They're gonna trade me to Team X and he names

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Speaker 2: a new team and this all starts all over again.

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Speaker 2: So to me, the worst case scenario isn't overpaying Rogers.

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Speaker 2: It's it's actually somehow by getting a little too big

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Speaker 2: for your breches and assuming that he's coming to your team,

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Speaker 2: you overplay your hand and he doesn't end up playing

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Speaker 2: for the Jets ever. Now, that would be a complete

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Speaker 2: disaster because in your quarterback room currently you've got Tim Boyle,

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson obviously who's been dreadful so far, Tim Boyle,

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Speaker 2: who's a backup to Zach Wilson, I would assume at

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Speaker 2: this point, a twenty eight year old career backup in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. And Chris Streveler, who started out in the

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Speaker 2: Canadian Football League and has been a backup or practice

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Speaker 2: squad player his entire career. I mean, you would have.

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Speaker 1: To immediately go out and try to find the car

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Speaker 1: right now. Packers are the Jets right now. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's the Jets, but you can overplay that hand. Whatever

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Speaker 1: it takes. Jets get Aaron Rodgers in the uniform. That's

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Speaker 1: good point. I mean, that's why, that's why, literally in

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Speaker 1: the last hour it's been made public that once again

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Speaker 1: talks have begun. This deal has got to get done

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Speaker 1: before the NFL Draft. We have another very well known

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Speaker 1: quarterback to talk about. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Well,

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Speaker 1: we got four NBA games going on today. Knicks have

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Speaker 1: the two point lead, actually now four point lead is

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter just underway over the Cavs. Again, I

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Speaker 1: don't see how the one of these teams posing much

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Speaker 1: of a threat to the top three teams in the East.

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Speaker 1: They got some interesting players on these two teams, But

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Speaker 1: I still think when I look at that Celtics team

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Speaker 1: right now, and Celtics will be playing on the road

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Speaker 1: against the Hawks coming up here shortly, I still think

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Speaker 1: they're just a class above this game that's coming up next,

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Speaker 1: which will be tipping off at the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 1: Sacramento and the Warriors. This one has been a wild series.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. It opened up in Sacramento. They

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Speaker 1: had the longest drought of any team in all of

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Speaker 1: American professional team sports, and those fans. You know, I

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Speaker 1: always love it when announcers say, Wow, the crowd is

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Speaker 1: really into this game, and you're like, it doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: like it. I don't know what they are pumping into

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Speaker 1: the speakers in Sacramento, but I can't remember the last

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Speaker 1: time I watched an NBA game where the crowd was

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Speaker 1: that loud. I mean, they were rocking that place the

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Speaker 1: first two games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Golden State Warriors they have got

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Speaker 2: they have got to get it together at home today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question about it. Well, they're eleven and

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Speaker 1: thirty two in on the road this year. They were

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Speaker 1: eleven and thirty in the regular season, zero and two.

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Speaker 1: They just can't win on the road. How is it

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Speaker 1: possible A team with the players they have, the championship pedigree,

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Speaker 1: they have not capable of winning on the road anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Again, Like you know, we were talking about this in

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Speaker 2: the first hour of the show today, Steve, there is

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Speaker 2: a little bit of that complacency that can sneak into

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Speaker 2: the equation when your team's led by veterans who have

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Speaker 2: been there and done it as long as the Warriors have.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about the Lakers that time

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Speaker 2: with Lebron James. But this applies to the Warriors perfectly.

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Speaker 2: Who's done it more at a high level than Steph Curry,

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Speaker 2: Draymond Green, and Klay Thompson together, you can argue right

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Speaker 2: now in the NBA nobody.

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Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of that, like.

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Speaker 10: Hey, gang, like, we know when we got to kick

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Speaker 10: it into gear, and yeah, it's a cute effort by

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Speaker 10: the Sacramento Kings, but let's face it, we're better.

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Speaker 1: We just have to play like it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Game four, everybody good, consensus. Game four, that's when

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Speaker 2: we should turn it on in this series. Now, I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying they weren't trying hard. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: they weren't efforting to win any of these or I

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Speaker 2: should say all these games, because they obviously were. I

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Speaker 2: mean there's a lot of passion. You saw that with

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Speaker 2: Draymond and everything that occurred. I just look at the

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Speaker 2: Warriors and I think to myself, like, this is a

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Speaker 2: team who doesn't look as hungry as the Sacramento Kings.

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Speaker 2: And that's what youth and inexperience gives you. It's important

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Speaker 2: to have some veterans who've been there before, have been

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Speaker 2: to the mountaintop, have enjoyed the spoils of war. But

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Speaker 2: it's also equally important to have some hungry cats on

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Speaker 2: your roster who just are in dogged pursuit of some

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Speaker 2: respect on their name, and the Warriors they already are respected.

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Speaker 1: So we were talking earlier about, you know, the load

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Speaker 1: management situation that apparently is extending even to postseason play now.

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Speaker 1: So the Warriors this year were thirty three and eight

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Speaker 1: at home, eleven and thirty on the road. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that just doesn't seem possible how a team could be

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Speaker 1: thirty three and eight at home and eleven and thirty

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Speaker 1: on the road with the players that they have on

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Speaker 1: that team. But also to mine, it's just the idea

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Speaker 1: of all right, last year the Warriors made another unexpected

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Speaker 1: till a lot of people run to win yet another championship,

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Speaker 1: and maybe because it is such a grind with an

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Speaker 1: older team as they have, maybe they're just thinking that, hey,

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Speaker 1: if we just show up for all the home games

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Speaker 1: were okay. The problem is they don't have the home

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Speaker 1: court advantage. They're gonna have to win at least one

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Speaker 1: game in Sacramento to win this series. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: what they do at home. They have to figure out

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Speaker 1: a way to win at least one game. I didn't

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Speaker 1: ask about the Draymond Green stomp. Yeah, and that was

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Speaker 1: as blatant as it gets. I mean, that was a

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Speaker 1: he got a stop, he got his money's worth. And

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Speaker 1: the memes have been a crazy you know, the wrestling

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Speaker 1: one is classic, or just stopping jumping on him with

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Speaker 1: both feet. I don't know what the argument was about

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Speaker 1: the suspension. It just seemed like so many people were

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Speaker 1: coming to his defense. Oh, it's ridiculous saying that. You know, well,

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Speaker 1: he really didn't instigate that Sabonis grabbed him. And but

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Speaker 1: but here's the thing. First of all, the commissioner was

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Speaker 1: at the game. Yeah, so Adam Silver was at the game.

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Speaker 1: Not only did he blatantly stomp on Sabonis, but then

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Speaker 1: he engaged the crowd. So he's carrying on. And if

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Speaker 1: you're the commissioner of the league, and you know the

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Speaker 1: track record at Draymond Green and the argument as well,

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Speaker 1: the only reason he got suspended is because he has

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Speaker 1: a track record. Okay, yeah, exactly, he has a track record.

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Speaker 1: It was not a good look for the league. It's

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Speaker 1: nice to have a little controversy. It's a little fun,

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Speaker 1: you know. Fortunately Sabonis wasn't seriously hurt. Could have been

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Speaker 1: the man jumps on you and stops on your chest. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I couldn't believe how many people were like outraged

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Speaker 1: that Draymond Green was suspended for a game because of

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Speaker 1: that incident. Well, and also here's.

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Speaker 2: Draymond Green's own words, because obviously he hosts his own podcasts,

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Speaker 2: and in the most recent episode that he dropped during

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Speaker 2: this playoff run, mind you, he said, you know, I

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Speaker 2: never knew you could be suspended for a flagrant two

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Speaker 2: that happened seven years ago. And what he was alluding

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Speaker 2: to is the fact that because he got into an

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Speaker 2: altercation with Lebron when they met in the finals. Yep,

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Speaker 2: and that's considered his history of having these sort of

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Speaker 2: altercations and part of the reasoning in his suspension. It's

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Speaker 2: what he brought up. He said, I also didn't know

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Speaker 2: you could get suspended for interacting with the crowd that's

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Speaker 2: flipping you the double birds and yelling your name chance

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Speaker 2: that you suck. Okay, so are you saying, Draymond that

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Speaker 2: you are the first player ever who's gotten suspended for

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Speaker 2: interacting with the crowd, Because that's not true. Are you

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Speaker 2: saying you're the first, You're saying you're the first NBA

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Speaker 2: player ever who's ever been suspended or ejected from a

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Speaker 2: game based off of your track record as a problem child.

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Speaker 1: In the NBA. That's not true. I'm pretty sure a

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Speaker 1: man named Dennis Rodman existed. I'm pretty sure a man

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Speaker 1: named Metaworld Peace existed. I mean, those are recent enough examples,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure you watch both of those players play

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Speaker 1: and they're very similar characters to who you are as

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Speaker 1: a player run our test at the time. Obviously. The

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Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make, though, is like for him

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Speaker 1: to act like this is just ridiculous. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: almost comical, and anybody to come to Draymond's defense and

1710
01:27:55,640 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: all of this is equally comical. Did Sabonus started Yeah, yeah, maybe,

1711
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: and he got a technical by the way, yeah he

1712
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 1: got Tiponus got a technical on the play. But you're

1713
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: not that that's not a fact that you stopped on

1714
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: a man while he was on the ground, Like I mean,

1715
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: and these two things were not equal, Like when you

1716
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: really look at it, if I grab your leg.

1717
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: Well, you're trying to run away. That's one thing, and

1718
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:27,839
Speaker 2: right a technical foul feels appropriate. But if I stomp

1719
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 2: on a grown man's chest in the middle of a

1720
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 2: basketball game, literally in the middle of the court. He

1721
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: did this at the free throw line, practically they were

1722
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,719
Speaker 2: halfway out of the pain. Stop on a grown man's

1723
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 2: chest when nobody else is on that side of the

1724
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 2: floor anymore, because the offense is rushing to the opposite side.

1725
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: You're telling me that's not that's not enough violence warranted

1726
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 2: for an ejection.

1727
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy. This has now become wwe.

1728
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: This has become pomp and circumstance, as opposed to talking

1729
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: about this series where Sacramento's playing some brilliant basketball against

1730
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 2: a veteran team.

1731
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: So maybe, and then the mindset of Draymon. And I

1732
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: remember Draymond when he was at Michigan State. And I

1733
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: remember the first time I actually heard a Draymon interview.

1734
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: It was like some postgame during his collegiate career. And

1735
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: I don't know, every once in a while, I'm listening

1736
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 1: to an athlete and he catches my ear and that

1737
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: was Draymon. And you know, what does he do? Well,

1738
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: he ended up a second round pick, and obviously he's

1739
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 1: been an invaluable member to the Warriors and their four

1740
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: championship runs. So maybe his mindset was something needs to change,

1741
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: because if we don't win a road game, we're going

1742
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 1: to be gone in the first round of the playoffs.

1743
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: So maybe I'll just be Draymon and do something completely

1744
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: outrageous rally my teammates around me, which they did in

1745
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: Game three, and it's going to work. I don't dismiss

1746
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: the Warriors in the series at all. Something tells me,

1747
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 1: because I love this Kings team. The Aaron Fox, to me,

1748
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: might be the most underrated star, like true star in

1749
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: the NBA. He's that good and he was that good

1750
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: in college. But there's something still about the Warriors. This

1751
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: incident smells to me like it's going to lead to

1752
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 1: something positive for the Warriors.

1753
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 2: Yes, I and this is a case where I actually

1754
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 2: think the worst case scenario still isn't the worst case

1755
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: scenario for the Warriors because of what Draymon did. And

1756
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 2: it felt very similar to this during the seventy three

1757
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 2: win regular season where they ran into the Calves in

1758
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 2: the finals and the lebron led Calves beat the Warriors, Draymon.

1759
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 2: Draymon gave the Warriors an excuse. Now, if they go

1760
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 2: on and they win that finals, He's going to get

1761
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 2: a ton of credit. The Warriors are going to get

1762
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: a ton of credit for the momentum shift and the

1763
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 2: attitudinal change that occurred during that finals if they win.

1764
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:50,480
Speaker 2: If they beat the Calves, but they lose and Draymond's

1765
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 2: the foil, you can blame it on Draymon. Draymon is

1766
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,719
Speaker 2: the lightning rod and the energy generator for that team.

1767
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 2: He does both of those things. So right now he's

1768
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 2: playing the part of the lightning rod because I think

1769
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 2: he felt it immediately Sacramento came to win. That fan

1770
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 2: base is avid. They want to see their team win.

1771
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 2: So the Kings are going to be a tough out

1772
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,759
Speaker 2: in the first round and he's right now playing the foil.

1773
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 2: If they lose this series, everybody will blame it on Dremond.

1774
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 2: And that takes the pressure off Kerr, That takes the

1775
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 2: pressure off Curry, that takes the pressure off of Klay Thompson,

1776
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 2: the young Bucks who are on this team. This is

1777
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 2: his role on this roster. I mean, and it's six

1778
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: years it's nearly a decade or seven years, nearly a

1779
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 2: decade apart from the last time he did this in

1780
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,799
Speaker 2: the finals, where they were like, holy cow, we felt

1781
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 2: unbeatable until we ran into King James and this Cavs team.

1782
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 2: But we're gonna lose this series unless something changes, and

1783
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 2: so he acted out. He kicked Lebron in the balls,

1784
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 2: and like literally, the rest is history from there. That's

1785
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 2: the reason why Lebron's a Laker now because he was

1786
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 2: unfinished business and he returned it's a prodigal son to

1787
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 2: Cleveland and got them a championship and moved on with

1788
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 2: his career. Draymond's feeling that again, I can promise you that,

1789
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 2: and even if this is subconscious, he realized, uh oh,

1790
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 2: like we're going to lose to the Kings here, so

1791
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 2: either we need an excuse or we need an energy change.

1792
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 2: Either way, it's on me, and that's why he did

1793
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 2: what he did. I firmly believe.

1794
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: That, all right, I have admitt and I've said this

1795
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 1: many times when it comes to social media. I wasn't

1796
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 1: raised with social media like most of our listeners out there,

1797
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 1: They've lived in a world where social media has been

1798
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: part of their world and I predate all that, and

1799
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 1: so I've been trying to figure it out. I said

1800
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 1: something on a show yesterday with Bucky Books that I

1801
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: thought was going to play well to the audience. What

1802
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 1: did you do? Apparently it has not for at least

1803
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 1: one person. I'll tell you what it is. This is

1804
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:56,600
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and a Rich Armburger. This

1805
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 1: is a Fox a Sports a Sunday from the tire

1806
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 1: Rag dot com studios. All right, in the interim since

1807
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: we last spoke, Yeah, Sam came in and revealed a

1808
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 1: touching story of something that's happening at his place. What's

1809
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 1: going on? He's a bird daddy. He's an egg daddy.

1810
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 1: Right now.

1811
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 9: I got a little I got a little I got

1812
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 9: a little garden, and out on my front porch, I

1813
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 9: got like some corn plant and some tomato plants, some

1814
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 9: onions growing. And this little mourning dove is a taking

1815
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 9: up residence in my planter well, taking up breads, residence

1816
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 9: made of nest.

1817
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: Laid an egg. And now I'm an egg daddy. I'm

1818
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: a bird daddy. Now, So I got that going? How long?

1819
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 1: How long does it take before the egg is due

1820
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: to hatch? I don't know.

1821
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 9: I have no idea. I haven't looked into it. I'm

1822
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 9: just chilling with it, you know. I want looking at

1823
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 9: making sure that birds are Are there any predators that

1824
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 9: could get to that egg?

1825
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 3: No?

1826
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so now the egg is in safe, it's very safe.

1827
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 2: I want to caution you of something because one time

1828
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 2: in the very recent past, I mean, my oldest is

1829
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 2: seven years old. So this happened when he was three,

1830
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 2: four years old something like that. We had this like

1831
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 2: overhang with a tall cabinet outside, and a mourning dove

1832
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 2: took up residence, made a nest, laid some eggs on

1833
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 2: top of this tall cabinet, and it's a whole process. Man,

1834
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 2: like you check on the eggs, like we would climb

1835
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 2: a ladder and take video. My kids were into it, well,

1836
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 2: the oldest was like, the youngest was one, he had

1837
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 2: no idea even who he was yet. But the four

1838
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 2: year old was really into it and he's into science.

1839
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 2: So we're like taking pictures of the eggs, we're taking

1840
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 2: videos of the doves like they're nesting. Anyways, these doves

1841
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 2: hatch and then we're taking video of the hatchlings and

1842
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 2: that's a really cool process. To see the mama dove

1843
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 2: come back and feed these doves and then they get

1844
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 2: strong enough and big enough that they're gonna fly the nest.

1845
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 2: They're like they're going to go out, strike on their own,

1846
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 2: start a new life. I mean, this is like you

1847
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 2: you're witnessing the birth cycle, Like this is exciting stuff.

1848
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 2: So these doves, I have to admit, I was enthralled

1849
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 2: by the story and myself these doves off of something

1850
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 2: like an eight foot cabinet.

1851
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: They fall their first attempt to fly, and they hit

1852
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: the ground. I thought for sure this might be curtains

1853
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: for one or both of them are injured. Neither of

1854
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: them were phazed by this at all, you know, And

1855
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 1: they kind of hop around on the ground on our

1856
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: patio on the sideyard, and they're trying to figure it

1857
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: all out.

1858
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 2: Well, finally they do, like the feathers work, they fly

1859
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 2: up atop the fence that separates our yard from the

1860
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 2: neighbor's yard. And then all of a sudden, in that instance,

1861
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: and thank goodness, something distracted my seven year old or

1862
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 2: then four year old, because he walked away from the window.

1863
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 2: In that instance, raccoon cat something climbed up that fence

1864
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 2: in a big hurry, and you just see a poof

1865
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 2: of feathers and both doves are gone in one fell swoop.

1866
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, I mean, don't get too attached here, because

1867
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,919
Speaker 1: is that a raccoon? It was like a ferret. Raccoon

1868
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 1: sound some sort of varbinsha. How are you gonna protect

1869
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: your baby? Yeah?

1870
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,759
Speaker 9: I really don't. I'm not worried about predators, you know. Okay,

1871
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 9: it's like it's inside of this courtyard in a condo.

1872
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 1: And so I'll tell you what.

1873
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 9: Neither was I until I was, well, that raccoon or

1874
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 9: that cat.

1875
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Or whatever it was, got to eat that night, I guess.

1876
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 1: So that's good. That's the you know, we might.

1877
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 9: Feel like we feel sad for the prey, but the

1878
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 9: predator also has to survive.

1879
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 2: I will say this though, if it was the break

1880
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 2: your heart a little bit fat neighbors cat that you

1881
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 2: don't need to eat Garfield his real.

1882
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: Name was speedy, he was not. He was that there though.

1883
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 2: And and cats, I mean they are vicious, murderous animals.

1884
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 1: They kill so many birds they feel for fun. Yeah,

1885
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: they just killed, they kill they have.

1886
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have trophies like they're they're they're barbaric. I mean,

1887
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 2: it's it's not the circle of life. It's legitimately. I'm

1888
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 2: just sharpening my law.

1889
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: I tell you, I tell you what, I tell you.

1890
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,440
Speaker 1: What I envisioned him was Sam. Okay, you remember the

1891
01:36:56,439 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 1: the commercial the but the Clydesdale where the guys the

1892
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 1: horse and then he obviously goes off to be in

1893
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: the parade and everything else, and he sees him. He's

1894
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 1: getting a little emotional, a guy just especially and you know,

1895
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 1: like the horse doesn't remember. But then all of a sudden,

1896
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 1: the horse literally turns around and runs back to him

1897
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 1: and they embrace it. I mean, I watched this commercial still,

1898
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm literally tearing up, like every time, this is what's

1899
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna happen with this little baby bird. At some point,

1900
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: that bird is gonna reunite with you. It's gonna be

1901
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 1: it would be instant recognition, and it's gonna it's gonna

1902
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: be like a Hallmark.

1903
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 9: There's that scene in ace Ventura where he's in his apartment.

1904
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:38,560
Speaker 9: All animals come out and they're like, He's like oh,

1905
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 9: and they come to him, and that'll be a new

1906
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 9: pet detective.

1907
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 2: I saw a video on one of these. It was

1908
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 2: either TikTok or Instagram where a lady went on a

1909
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 2: two week trip, came back to her farm and she

1910
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 2: owns a donkey, and that donkey I'm not kidding from

1911
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:54,599
Speaker 2: like an acre away was like.

1912
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean like running over, like I mean making sound.

1913
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 1: Is that were otherworldly love animals, they fall in good

1914
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 1: goodness your back. You better be a good he daddy.

1915
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: Is this is this a alternative to wife and children

1916
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: for you?

1917
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 9: It's just a temporary thing, you know. I'm just making

1918
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 9: sure that like step toward the next Yeah, by the way,

1919
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 9: to have kittens.

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Speaker 1: On your coming engagement we.

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Speaker 9: Just yeah, yeah, I was trying to make an egg

1922
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Speaker 9: joke out of that engagement engagement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, I want to read something that was tweeted

1924
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Speaker 1: to me by one of our listeners.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I have a feeling this is going to

1926
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Speaker 2: be vulgar in some way.

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Speaker 1: This is from this came from yesterday's show from Salvador. Okay, Salvador,

1928
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 1: so he goes uh turned on for three minutes and

1929
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: the knuckle dragger at Cannon Hartman talking about you is

1930
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 1: bitching and moaning that employees who broke the rules are

1931
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Speaker 1: in trouble. They know the rules, they broke them. Here's

1932
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 1: the thought, how about holding people accountable for their actions?

1933
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Speaker 1: So he refers to me as the knuckle dragger, because

1934
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Speaker 1: I question why the NFL, which is now in bed

1935
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: with multiple gambling businesses to the tune of billions of dollars,

1936
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 1: has suspended players for engaging in gambling activities which the

1937
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: league acknowledged had no bearing at all on a single game. None.

1938
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Speaker 1: Some of these rules are crazy. I said yesterday that look,

1939
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 1: if you can prove that a player bet on a

1940
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: game that he participated in and in some way because

1941
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 1: of the bet, affected the outcome of that game, then

1942
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Speaker 1: to me, he would be eliminated for life. You're done,

1943
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:56,600
Speaker 1: You're expelled from the league for life. But for a

1944
01:39:56,680 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 1: league that allows players to engage in fantasy football leagues,

1945
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:04,719
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have your quarterback in a fantasy

1946
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 1: football league and one of the players on his team

1947
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Speaker 1: happens to be a receiver or running back in one

1948
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 1: of his teammates, and he needs a touchdown from one

1949
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 1: of them to win a game, you see the potential there.

1950
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they would change it, but the potential

1951
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: is there. I find this the hypocrisy is ridiculous in

1952
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Speaker 1: terms of these penalties, indefinite penalties. By the way, two

1953
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: of the players that were in definitely suspended immediately got

1954
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:32,799
Speaker 1: but released by the Lions. Of course, it just seems

1955
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: over the top, this idea that you are not even

1956
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: you can't engage in any kind of gambling activity while

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Speaker 1: on the grounds of the team. And I'm just thinking

1958
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 1: the penalty does not fit the crime, is my point

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01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 1: right there. Yes, I understand your concerns, but for years

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01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 1: the NFL tried to distance themselves from the idea that

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01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 1: that gambling had anything to do in terms of the

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01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: popularity of their sport, which in terms of popularity, had

1963
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 1: everything to do with the growth of the NFL. And

1964
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: obviously now they're in bed with those same people. So

1965
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Speaker 1: I was outraged by this. I thought, to be honest

1966
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Speaker 1: with you, that this was a point that was going

1967
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: to be embraced by people saying, yeah, I mean, that's

1968
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 1: old school thinking. Let's get let's get with it, right.

1969
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: We're talking about more and more involvement with the gambling community,

1970
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Speaker 1: the potential of actually going to NFL games at stadiums

1971
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 1: where they'll actually have betting windows or betting mechanisms, at

1972
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: your seat. All of this is coming. But I just

1973
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 1: thought it was crazy that the idea of these players

1974
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 1: was suspended because they bet on a game which they

1975
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: didn't even participate in. How is that a crime where

1976
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 1: you have an indefinite suspension. It seemed over the top.

1977
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Speaker 1: I thought people would agree, but according to one I

1978
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: am the knuckle dragger, that is out of it that

1979
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 1: they should been panelized.

1980
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Speaker 2: By the way, before I comment on that the Knicks

1981
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 2: right now leading ninety eight ninety to the Cleveland Cavaliers

1982
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 2: here in game four of this opening series. Knicks right

1983
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 2: now they hold a two to one lead in the series,

1984
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 2: about to be three to one here and Jalen Bronson

1985
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,839
Speaker 2: with a huge performance twenty nine points today.

1986
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Speaker 1: I figured this was gonna as a four or five

1987
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 1: matchup even teams. Yeah, I mean this is I don't

1988
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 1: think either one of these teams is a threat to

1989
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 1: the winner. This would take it on Milwaukee course of

1990
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,679
Speaker 1: no Viannas. I guess they could get by.

1991
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Speaker 2: But cruising cruising two, potentially a four to one series

1992
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 2: finish here for the nixt with a little time to

1993
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Speaker 2: wait before facing the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Good team.

1995
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know Yannis had the back look, I'm

1996
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 2: just saying, and then the Garden. We know the Garden, man,

1997
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 2: there's ghosts in that garden. It's a tough place to

1998
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 2: win as a road team.

1999
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Speaker 1: So well, they got to go back to Cleveland for

2000
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Game five. Oh I understand.

2001
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, if they advanced through the series

2002
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 2: and they get onto the Bucks or whoever waits for

2003
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Speaker 2: them next, I mean.

2004
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Speaker 1: I don't know. The Garden hasn't hosted an NBA championship

2005
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: team since nineteen seventy three. I mean when people say

2006
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:13,839
Speaker 1: why the Garden, I'm like, it's been fifty years, fifty

2007
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 1: on the dot since the Knicks last won an NBA

2008
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 1: champions But remember though, I mean Willis Reid recently passed away.

2009
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 1: It's been a long time.

2010
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 2: Part of that story is those pat Riley nineties Knicks

2011
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 2: teams ran into the Bulls. Yeah, you know that Eastern

2012
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 2: Conference was well in the Pacers. I mean there were

2013
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 2: there were a lot of good teams in the East

2014
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Speaker 2: at the time, so very difficult, very difficult opponents.

2015
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Speaker 1: Was I wronged here? Okay, okay, I have gotten this

2016
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Speaker 1: criticism about my stance on this gambling situation.

2017
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Speaker 2: Listen, here here's my thought. I voiced this thought with

2018
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley. If you are going to if you are

2019
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 2: going to lay with pigs, you're gonna get dirty. For years,

2020
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 2: the NFL acted like they were you pure to bother

2021
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 2: with sports betting. That's something they only do in Vegas.

2022
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:08,640
Speaker 2: And guess what the reason why we're not coming to

2023
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 2: Vegas is because we're above that. That was the argument

2024
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:13,679
Speaker 2: for a long time, because we don't want to sully

2025
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 2: ourselves with those underlings who control those books out there

2026
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Speaker 2: in the desert.

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Speaker 1: That's all changed. Now.

2028
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Speaker 2: You literally have stadiums named after sports books. You have

2029
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:33,879
Speaker 2: official sports books of the NFL. You have gaming apps

2030
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 2: who are working in concert with the NFL. Now you

2031
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 2: want to talk about being careful. The NBA overall, I

2032
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 2: mean executives who work with teams have been quietly shuffled

2033
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 2: out of buildings. You've got executives at the league offices

2034
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 2: who I'm sure have these gambling apps and are probably

2035
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,799
Speaker 2: encouraged to maybe learn what.

2036
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 1: They're all about. You think there's ever been an owner

2037
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 1: that made a wager on it team to win? Shockingly, No, I.

2038
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 2: Think they are all performing completely on the open up.

2039
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 1: And you should never question the ownership in the NFL.

2040
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 1: All these guys are good to get moral, high value

2041
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: people to society. If you actually have proof that some

2042
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,839
Speaker 1: of made a wager on a team and it affected

2043
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 1: the outcome of that game, gone, Yeah, But I mean

2044
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 1: the idea of just gambling on something listen, doesn't make it. Listen.

2045
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: The proverbial gates are open. Like. This is the reason

2046
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 1: why the NBA, in the new CBA has.

2047
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 2: Completely retrofitted the street jug testing to match society. Marijuana

2048
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 2: is now acceptable. They're not going to test players for

2049
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 2: it any longer in the NBA. Is it federally legal. No,

2050
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:47,480
Speaker 2: is it legal in most states now, even for recreational

2051
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 2: use or of some sort of use. Yeah, And so

2052
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:55,799
Speaker 2: that is matching society's tenor better than what the NFL

2053
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 2: is currently doing with their betting rules.

2054
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 4: Now.

2055
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what the NBA's rules on betting are,

2056
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 2: but my point is using that as a comparison, they

2057
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 2: even still have their original policies in place. They've been

2058
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 2: loose and relaxed a little bit on on marijuana, for example,

2059
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,919
Speaker 2: but in this new CBA you'll still have guys potentially

2060
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 2: getting popped for that too. It's it's just times have

2061
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 2: changed and you have to adjust with the time.

2062
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: I thought I was changing with the times, but apparently not.

2063
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 1: Let's find out what's trending right now, mansie. Would you

2064
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 1: would you characterize me as a knuckle dragger?

2065
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 3: No, but well.

2066
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 1: The knuckle drager means like neanderthal, like you know, like

2067
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're an old guy. You know, you

2068
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 1: go back to prehistoric times.

2069
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, you want to you want to hear an example, Steve. Yeah,

2070
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 9: I went into this liquor store, no surprise.

2071
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah uh.

2072
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 9: The guy by the counter, he's eating something, right, and

2073
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 9: then he wipes his mouth with his hands, yeah uh.

2074
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 9: And then he like wipes his shirt and then grabs

2075
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 9: the stuff that I was buying, and he's just like

2076
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 9: there's no awareness.

2077
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 1: That he's just this you thought of him as a

2078
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: cave caveman because he's just like he's just a slob,

2079
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:07,679
Speaker 1: like you know. Yeah.

2080
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,480
Speaker 2: I always think when you say it's like the ascension

2081
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 2: of man chart from Darwin, like this puts you back,

2082
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 2: you know millennia, like you are you are you are,

2083
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 2: you are the form of modern man who is.

2084
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 1: Just not evolved. No, actually, something happened today, So I

2085
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 1: came in. I always wear the exact same jeans and

2086
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 1: shirts on Saturday and Sunday. And I come in today

2087
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 1: and I have sweats on with the U C l

2088
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: A T shirt. I'm going to like work out like

2089
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: a workout outfit. And everyone was in shock. I was

2090
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 1: trying to explain I only have two pairs of jeans.

2091
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Sam had to be fanned away after he fainted.

2092
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:44,719
Speaker 1: The jeans shocked. The jeans I wore yesterday I spilled

2093
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: something on him, they had to be washed, so I

2094
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 1: had no genes available because the other jeans are being

2095
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 1: washed gees. And what I guess, I know, only two?

2096
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: Come on, why why would I need more than two

2097
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 1: pairs of.

2098
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 4: But this exact situation we're talking about, well, I.

2099
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 1: Know, but I mean, I mean, guys offended that we

2100
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: would not have noticed that you were wearing what you're

2101
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:05,599
Speaker 1: currently wearing.

2102
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Speaker 3: You just no, what are you talking about? The first

2103
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:08,919
Speaker 3: thing I said.

2104
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,879
Speaker 1: The second I walked in, she walked in, Yeah.

2105
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 3: I said, what's happening. What's what's going on?

2106
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 9: That scene in pulp fiction where they're wearing like the

2107
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:18,719
Speaker 9: Banana Slug T shirt.

2108
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 1: At the end of the day. Yeah, you're out of

2109
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 1: their suits. Well, Mantia, I'm uttered, and then you actually

2110
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: notice what I do wear? Yes, amazing.

2111
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought something was wrong. I was like, oh, no,

2112
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 4: what's going on the end of the world. Why are

2113
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 4: you dressed like this? But then he told me what happened,

2114
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 4: and then I.

2115
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,799
Speaker 1: Was like, gotcha, I'm not a knuckle dragon.

2116
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 3: No, no, not at all.

2117
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 4: Well, guys, Donovan Mitchell hit two points in the second

2118
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 4: half for the Cleveland Cavaliers, which is no, and the

2119
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 4: Knicks have officially taken a three to one commanding lead,

2120
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 4: beating them in Game four. One o two to ninety

2121
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 4: three was the final score. The Cavs came alive in

2122
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 4: the third quarter. They made a game of a race

2123
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 4: to fifteen point deficit, but Jayalen Brunson was like not today.

2124
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 3: He ended with twenty nine points, six rebounds.

2125
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 4: And six assists, and again New York now leads that

2126
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 4: series three to one. We're about to get Game four

2127
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 4: between the Warriors and the Kings.

2128
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 3: That's set for twelve thirty pm Eastern sign so it's

2129
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Speaker 3: going to start right now.

2130
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 4: The Warriors are bringing Draymond Green off the bench, is

2131
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 4: what they announced in his return from his Game four suspension.

2132
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 4: The Athletic reported that Miami he guard Victor Oladipo suffered

2133
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:26,879
Speaker 4: a season ending torn pateller tendon in his left knee.

2134
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 4: Miami hosts the Books tomorrow for their Game four, and

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Speaker 4: they lead the series to to one. The Hurricanes are

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Speaker 4: about to take a commanding lead on the ice over

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Speaker 4: the Islanders. They lead that series two to one, and

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Speaker 4: they're currently beating them five to one with.

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Speaker 3: Five and a half minutes to go in the third period.

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Speaker 4: In Major League Baseball, it's the Braves who are beating

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Speaker 4: the Astros two zero.

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Speaker 3: Top of the eighth inning.

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Speaker 4: The Blue Jays are shutting out the Yankees for zero.

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Speaker 4: Bottom of the eighth inning. The Dodgers were losing, and

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Speaker 4: then they were tied thanks to a two run homer

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Speaker 4: by Mooki Betts, but the Cups. The Cubs have retaken

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Speaker 4: the lead. Three to two is the score bottom of

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Speaker 4: the fifth inning, with the Twins beating the Nationals three

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Speaker 4: to one top of the sixth and the Red Sox

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Speaker 4: holding on now to a one run lead over the

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Speaker 4: Brewers three to two bottom of the fifth inning.

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Speaker 3: I was barely listening.

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Speaker 4: To you guys because my friend sent me a TikTok

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Speaker 4: about the fire that happened at Disneyland yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Oh there was a fire, a fire and I.

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Speaker 3: Was like, what is this And she's like, did you

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01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 3: hear about this? And I was like no.

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01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 4: They're a Fantasmic show that happens every day, I think

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Speaker 4: two times every evening.

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Speaker 3: The dragon caught on fire in the middle of the show,

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Speaker 3: like with people there, Yes, they were watching the show.

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01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 3: So there's tons of it.

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01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 11: As on TikTok, people are recording it and they're all like, oh,

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01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:37,599
Speaker 11: what what's happening. And there's one that I just saw

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Speaker 11: where the girl's like screaming because the dragon catches fire

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Speaker 11: at its head they breathe fire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well stop with that, right, and there's not possible.

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Speaker 3: No done.

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Speaker 4: Guys, if you didn't watch Fantasmic, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: we're gonna watch it anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, I you know it.

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01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,799
Speaker 2: There's always that reaction when something happens at a show

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01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,639
Speaker 2: or like a wrestling event or a parade or something

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Speaker 2: like that. The automatic you're like, oh, this is a

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Speaker 2: part of the show.

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Speaker 1: Look, they set this dragon on fire, and then immediately

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Speaker 1: when you realize like yeah, no, the performers aren't reacting

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Speaker 1: the way they would if this was a part of

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Speaker 1: the show. That's when, like the fear, it's like, you know,

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01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:18,719
Speaker 1: everyone for themselves faces part, You're like, oh, that doesn't

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01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 1: sound like Nickey Mouse's voice. We have problems. All right. Well, Moncey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for that update. I'll share a heroin story of

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Speaker 1: Disneyland very quickly. I was on Space Mountain once when

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Speaker 1: my boys were young, all right, so they're probably about

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Speaker 1: eight and ten years old. Another buddy of the four

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Speaker 1: of us. It was late and we're on Space Mountain, which,

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01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:43,599
Speaker 1: if you never been on Space Mountain is a roller

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Speaker 1: coaster in the dark. So they s a idea that

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Speaker 1: you're you know, flying through space. As we're on the

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01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 1: ride inside the mountain. Our car stops in the middle

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01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 1: of the ride, and since we can't see anything, my

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01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 1: immediate thought is we are going to get rammed by

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01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 1: whatever cars behind us and we're all going to die.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was my thought, right, I can't see anything.

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01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, our car stops, and then within

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Speaker 1: about I don't know thirty seconds, lights go on inside

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Speaker 1: Space Mountain. Wow, so you go. So so we are

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Speaker 1: we are in our car, there's another car stopped above us,

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Speaker 1: there's another car stop below us. And then something's gone

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01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 1: on and they had to turn the lights on. So

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Speaker 1: you know, you got your phone and we're videotaping. You

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Speaker 1: want to see the inside of Space Mountain, and so

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01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 1: we did, and then they turn off the lights. We

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01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 1: finished our ride, and as we come out and it

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01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 1: was late, like the closing rides, they're like, well, this

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Speaker 1: car gets to ride again, because they didn't get a

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01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 1: full ride without interruption. It was like great. You can

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01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 1: imagine my boys were eight and ten. They're like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's their second that I thought we were dead special about.

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01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, the elation of realizing you're not going to

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01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 2: you're not you're not going to be doomed to spend

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01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 2: your last moments inside of a rollercoaster exactly, but also

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01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 2: like when when things do go wrong publicly during a

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01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 2: performance there. I remember one time we were at a parade.

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01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 2: This was when I was a kid, and it was

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01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 2: like a local town parade and a marching band came

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01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 2: by and too clarinetis must have got into it before

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01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 2: this song started, and somebody elbowed somebody else.

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01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 1: They started swinging clarinets at each other.

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01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,120
Speaker 2: It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen

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01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 2: in my life, and it happened directly. It so literally,

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01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 2: we're taking bets on which clarinetis is gonna win the

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01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 2: short fight with these woodwind instruments.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love that stuff by the way

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01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:49,679
Speaker 1: that leads us into this. Be sure not to miss

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01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 1: Draft Night Live on Fox Sports Radio. That's Thursday night,

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01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 1: eight pm easterns throughout the first round of the Draft.

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01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: Insider Jay Glazer, former Cardinals GM, Steve Kahm, College Football

2229
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Lovar Arrington, Big noon kickoffs. Rob Stone

2230
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:07,920
Speaker 1: will have a pick by pick predictions reactions to every

2231
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 1: first round pick. That's Thursday, eight pm Eastern throughout the

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01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 1: first round of the Draft, live on Fox Sports Radio

2233
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:17,919
Speaker 1: and the iHeartRadio app. Another huge name in the NFL

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01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 1: is making noise for all the wrong reasons. I'll tell

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01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 1: you who it is. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin,

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01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:30,680
Speaker 1: Rich Harnberger Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the

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Speaker 1: tyrec dot Com studios. Sam's got a complaint about the

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01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 1: new studio, not about the studio itself. It's going to

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01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 1: be State of the art. It's absolutely beauty of its

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Speaker 1: location or location within this building. But we are here

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Speaker 1: in our studios in Sherman Oaks, California, and we have

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01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 1: a view of Supulblta Boulevard. And what's interesting is if

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01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: you're on the street looking in, it's like a mirror.

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01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 1: Lot of people. We have people that will look they

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01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 1: look like they're looking at us, but they can't see us. Yeah,

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01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 1: and they're you know, the girls are doing their make

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01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, we've we've seen it all. I mean we

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01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 1: have literally seen it all. Yes, we have. Over the years,

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01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: We've seen more than just faces. But the new studio

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Speaker 1: is like in the inside of the building, so we're

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Speaker 1: not going to actually have a view of the outside.

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01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 1: No natural sunlight, which kind of bums me out. Now,

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01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 1: some of the sunlight we have to pull the shades

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01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 1: down because it's too intense. I just love having light

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Speaker 1: pouring in. We all protest. This is going on constantly.

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Speaker 1: Now we have witt some some things. Yes, protests are

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Speaker 1: constant in this area. So uh yeah, you're just gonna

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Speaker 1: have to Uh. It doesn't bother me, It bothers you though.

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01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 1: I just I like natural light, you know. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well that's not gonna happen. Here's a question that was

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Speaker 1: asked of Tom Brady. All right, tom Brady was at

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01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 1: some kind of uh he was speaking at some kind

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Speaker 1: of convention, and he was asked, is there any chance

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Speaker 1: you're coming out of retirement and playing for the Fins now?

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Speaker 1: The simple answer could have been no, or it could

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Speaker 1: have been yes. Yeah. Here was his answer. I will

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Speaker 1: say now that I'm not affiliated with any team anymore,

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01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 1: even though I have strong ties with a couple of teams.

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01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 1: I do have some friends on the Dolphins that I

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01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:30,360
Speaker 1: really like, So I wouldn't say I necessarily root for

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01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:32,839
Speaker 1: them all the time, but I root for my friends

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Speaker 1: to do well, and several of them play for Miami.

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Speaker 1: The irony of this is the Miami Dolphins don't have

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01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 1: a first round pick this year because they were found

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01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:47,000
Speaker 1: tampering with Tom Brady when he was under contract to Tampa.

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Speaker 1: That's why they lost their friends. So why there's only

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Speaker 1: thirty one picks in the first round this year. They

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Speaker 1: forfeited their drift draft pick because of tampering involving Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady and his agent. You also have a quarterback to

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01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 1: a tongue of who really recently said that he did

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01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 1: consider retirement. And there's a lot of people I hear that.

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01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 1: I heard Keishawn Johnson say this, and when I've heard

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01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:14,919
Speaker 1: other people, when you start talking about retirement, you're already retired.

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Speaker 1: You can make that argument. By the way, for Aaron Rodgers,

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01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 1: who said he came out of a hibernation ninety percent

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01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 1: convinced that he was retired. Then he said, now I

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01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 1: want to play for the Jets, right, So when Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady doesn't give it a firm no, no, I have

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Speaker 1: no interest.

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Speaker 2: So here's the exact question, and here's the exact quote.

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Speaker 2: He said, is there any chance you're coming out of

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Speaker 2: retirement and playing for the Fins? And then he gave

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01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 2: that answer you just said where he said, I will

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01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:41,160
Speaker 2: say now that I'm not affiliated with any team anymore,

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Speaker 2: even though I have strong ties with a couple teams.

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Speaker 2: What the hell does that mean? Like you said, the

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Speaker 2: simple answer is yes or no. Right, It's a simple

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01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 2: yes or no, yes or no. Like what's so interesting

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Speaker 2: is the specificity of the question. First of all, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and secondarily with that's interesting about the question is the

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Speaker 2: answer itself is so vague. If you're retired. You're retired

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Speaker 2: if you're retired. When I retired from the NFL, when

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Speaker 2: I had made the decision that I will no longer

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Speaker 2: play in the NFL, I knew I was no longer

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Speaker 2: playing in the NFL. To me, this is not a

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Speaker 2: firm retirement. That video that was released on South Beach,

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Speaker 2: that again you could argue, felt a little rushed, felt

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Speaker 2: a little more intimate, but also felt a little rushed

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Speaker 2: and emotional. There was no press conference again yet held

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Speaker 2: for Tom Brady's retirement. Remember this is Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Welllus Remember he's also indicated his run well Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: will not start till twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is Tom Brady, who has become a

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Speaker 2: social media maven, who's building several different brands under his name,

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Speaker 2: who has a production company. You're telling me, if Tom

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Speaker 2: Brady is officially retired from the NFL, there's going to

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Speaker 2: be no further pomp and circumstance than just a video

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Speaker 2: that he cuts on a beach somewhere indiscriminately in South Beach, Miami.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: That he was the thing. Right, You have rare insight,

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Speaker 1: because obviously you were a teammate of his. You were

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Speaker 1: his center. Yeah, you know this guy intimately. Well, is

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Speaker 1: this Tom Brady that has emerged in terms of his

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Speaker 1: social persona since leading New England? Does this surprise you? No?

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Speaker 1: Knowing to Tom Brady you know many years ago?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean people change, obviously. This is somebody

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01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 2: I left New England in twenty twelve, so and we've

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01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:39,640
Speaker 2: barely spoke since there. I look at Tom Brady now

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01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:42,880
Speaker 2: as being a product of the times, like people have

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Speaker 2: to keep up with the times, otherwise the times will

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Speaker 2: pass you by. And he's done a nice job hiring

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01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 2: people around him to help him with social media and

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01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:55,400
Speaker 2: expanding himself beyond just you know, the structure of football.

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Speaker 2: I think that was part of the reason why he

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Speaker 2: left New England in.

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Speaker 1: The first place. I guess he'sjohinn Us in the next ho.

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Speaker 1: All right, John Palmer, Rose scene, it's been a while.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some MLB. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Having a great day. We are here, beautiful day outside

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Speaker 1: where we are. I don't know about the weather where

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Speaker 1: everyone else is. We had here in southern California. Don't

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02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 1: want to complain about everything anything, because we needed rain

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Speaker 1: desperately here and we got it in abundance. But now

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Speaker 1: the sun is out at over two feet of rain,

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Speaker 1: which is great. We needed that rain. Yeah, there was,

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Speaker 1: there was.

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Speaker 2: There were a couple of reservoirs drying up, and now yeah,

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Speaker 2: now there are lakes.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I mean there was a lot of rain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brand new rivers emerging as the snow's melting off

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Speaker 2: of mountains.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. But actually I was watching, like the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers are playing the Cubs right now Wrigley Field and

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Speaker 1: it's like forty degrees. Yeah, there's snow flurries at the

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Speaker 1: Colorado Spring game. I saw that. Did you see that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Network's John Paul Morosi. I'm sure I'll also have a

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Speaker 1: little update on the NHL playoffs, because he is mister

2365
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Speaker 1: hockey as well. I want to go back Rich fourteen

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Speaker 1: years ago, All right, fourteen years ago. The year is

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. There is a Associated Press third

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Speaker 1: team All American out of Penn State named Rich Ornberger

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02:01:39,680 --> 02:01:43,720
Speaker 1: who is anxiously awaiting when and where his name will

2370
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:47,120
Speaker 1: be called in the NFL draft. Now, let's take it.

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Speaker 1: Let's take us back. What were the circumstances on draft

2372
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:54,720
Speaker 1: day in two thousand and nine? I know TV cameras

2373
02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:57,360
Speaker 1: are there, National TV was all over your house. Oh yeah,

2374
02:01:57,400 --> 02:02:02,840
Speaker 1: of course, crawling the yards. It was so hey. When

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Speaker 1: when did you expect to be drafted? Were you thinking

2376
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:10,240
Speaker 1: a third day guy? What was going on there? And

2377
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:13,080
Speaker 1: and take us through, because for all these kids, as

2378
02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:16,760
Speaker 1: they get ready for fulfilling a dream to hear their

2379
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:24,120
Speaker 1: name announced associated with some NFL team. You played as

2380
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 1: a kid, you played Pop Warner, you play high school,

2381
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:31,800
Speaker 1: you played college. For that moment to hear your name

2382
02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:36,760
Speaker 1: called in the NFL draft. I just can't imagine. Even

2383
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:39,240
Speaker 1: if you're the last guy, like who was that guy,

2384
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 1: brock Purty whatever happened him? Uh, last pick in the draft.

2385
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:46,080
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, he's just start now. Anyway, take us

2386
02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:50,840
Speaker 1: back fourteen years, rich Ornberger, when would you expected to

2387
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Speaker 1: be drafted and what was your draft day or day's experience?

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Speaker 2: Like, okay, so my wife was in town visiting me

2389
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:04,040
Speaker 2: because at the time she went to Penn State. That's

2390
02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:07,440
Speaker 2: where we met, but she was living with her parents still.

2391
02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:10,280
Speaker 2: I mean, we're kids, we're puppies, you know, we're in

2392
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 2: our early twenties and trying to make trying to make

2393
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:18,560
Speaker 2: the relationship work. And she came to my house, and

2394
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 2: my friends showed up at the house, and my parents

2395
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:25,120
Speaker 2: obviously were there, my siblings, and we were just waiting

2396
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 2: to see what happened next. I mean, the reality is

2397
02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:30,919
Speaker 2: where I expected to be drafted, per discussions with my agents.

2398
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 2: His discussions with teams was somewhere in the second day.

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02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:37,000
Speaker 2: At that time, they did the first and second round

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02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 2: I believe on Day one, and then third through seven

2401
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 2: on Day two, and at very most I would be

2402
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:48,280
Speaker 2: a second day guy, probably late in the day, you know, fifth, sixth,

2403
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 2: seventh round pick or priority free agent. That was his thought,

2404
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, go undrafted potentially and get to pick which

2405
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:55,720
Speaker 2: team I want to go to. If there was any

2406
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:59,120
Speaker 2: sort of bidding war, so that was what my expectations were.

2407
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:02,640
Speaker 2: What ended up happening was the Patriots selected me in

2408
02:04:02,680 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 2: the fourth round and they had traded a corner to

2409
02:04:06,280 --> 02:04:09,480
Speaker 2: acquire the pick in the first place. And it was crazy,

2410
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:11,560
Speaker 2: man Like, I remember thinking to myself, like, how is

2411
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:14,800
Speaker 2: this real life? It felt surreal. And I got on

2412
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:20,640
Speaker 2: the phone with Bear's Nigerian who was the special assistant

2413
02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 2: to the head coach, Bill Belichick, spoke to him briefly

2414
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:28,680
Speaker 2: and Robert Kraft briefly, and within that ninety second phone call,

2415
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 2: my face and name came up on the screen in

2416
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,800
Speaker 2: the living room, and I remember having to leave the

2417
02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:37,360
Speaker 2: front door of the house to finish this conversation because

2418
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:39,800
Speaker 2: my whole family and friends who were over were going

2419
02:04:39,880 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 2: absolutely bonkers because it had happened. And I walked back

2420
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:47,920
Speaker 2: into the house and you don't realize, and I can

2421
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:51,280
Speaker 2: remember that day so vividly. You don't realize how important

2422
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 2: certain moments are for the rest of your life while

2423
02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:58,080
Speaker 2: they're happening. But that was, next to obviously marrying my

2424
02:04:58,160 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 2: wife and the birth of my two sons, the most

2425
02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 2: significant day of my entire life. I mean, it changed

2426
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:06,800
Speaker 2: everything for me, all.

2427
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 1: Right, so to say that you weren't completely consumed by

2428
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:13,879
Speaker 1: your own situation. You had four Penn State teammates drafted

2429
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:16,280
Speaker 1: in the same draft. Can you name him? Uh?

2430
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Jared Odrick I believe was my draft year.

2431
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,560
Speaker 1: Wasn't he? That is already wrong. So there you go. Okay,

2432
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:26,720
Speaker 1: Dan Connor, that's another guy that was not drafted that year,

2433
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 1: So you were really only Intermaron was and seventeenth overall

2434
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:35,240
Speaker 1: to Buffalo. Correct, Yes, I'm looking at it right. Was

2435
02:05:35,240 --> 02:05:38,720
Speaker 1: he seventeenth? He was eleventh eleven? All right, all right,

2436
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:41,120
Speaker 1: but Buffalo Bills took him. There were two third round

2437
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:42,520
Speaker 1: picks on the seventh round pick.

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02:05:43,120 --> 02:05:46,520
Speaker 2: Okay, let me give you another one, okay, And I'm

2439
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:52,080
Speaker 2: certain that Derek Williams was drafted. Derek Williams was the

2440
02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:53,880
Speaker 2: third round. Oh, he was third round. I was gonna

2441
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:56,720
Speaker 2: say second round. And you said there was another.

2442
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 1: Third rounder, Yes, there was. There was another third rounder

2443
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:00,680
Speaker 1: and the seventh round. Wow wow.

2444
02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:04,880
Speaker 2: And also in the third round, it was a gentleman

2445
02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 2: by the name of.

2446
02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 1: No question about it, Sean Lee. No, I was not Shudley.

2447
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:18,160
Speaker 1: It was the same position as Derek Williams, Dion Butler,

2448
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 1: Dion but ah, And what's amazing to me is a

2449
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:23,320
Speaker 1: guy that you have claimed to me over these many

2450
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 1: years is like one of your closest friends and an

2451
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 1: All American teammate of yours was picked in the seventh round,

2452
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 1: and you have not said Q Shipley a q Shipley.

2453
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:35,760
Speaker 2: He was the Rimington Award winner. That's he's not still playing.

2454
02:06:36,160 --> 02:06:38,840
Speaker 2: You know what's so funny. No, he's he's retired, and

2455
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:41,600
Speaker 2: he's finally retired. He's finally retired. You know what's so

2456
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:44,880
Speaker 2: amazing about Aq is he was one of the most

2457
02:06:44,920 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 2: sensational offensive linemen you've ever seen in college football. But

2458
02:06:49,160 --> 02:06:52,600
Speaker 2: because he didn't have the intangibles, he was short and

2459
02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:56,000
Speaker 2: he had short arms, he just got completely overlooked by

2460
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:58,320
Speaker 2: the NFL. Went on to have a brilliant career, won

2461
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:01,760
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with the Tampa Bay Buccaneer was a

2462
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:04,440
Speaker 2: reserve offensive lineman who fought his way to become a

2463
02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:05,640
Speaker 2: starting offensive.

2464
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Speaker 1: Safe to say, he's one of the more successful seventh

2465
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 1: round picks ever ever. I mean, and and again in

2466
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 1: college he was.

2467
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:15,520
Speaker 2: He was All American Team Remington Award winner, Like I mean,

2468
02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:17,360
Speaker 2: this was a big deal. And the fact that he

2469
02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:20,360
Speaker 2: got taken seventh and literally had to scrape and scrounge

2470
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:24,200
Speaker 2: together a career. At first is remarkable, but then the

2471
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 2: fact that he was able to persevere through all that

2472
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:30,120
Speaker 2: was equally remarkable and a tremendous human being. But yeah,

2473
02:07:30,440 --> 02:07:33,160
Speaker 2: I I to say I was consumed with my own

2474
02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 2: storyline that day.

2475
02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, is an understatement. In fact, I can tell you this,

2476
02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:38,560
Speaker 1: this is a true story.

2477
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:42,520
Speaker 2: I remember being interviewed by somebody and they asked me

2478
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,800
Speaker 2: a question about and I think it was somebody back

2479
02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, because you know, I grew up in New York,

2480
02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 2: but I went to Penn State. So I was on

2481
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 2: that campus for five years, made a lot of friends

2482
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:53,920
Speaker 2: in the media, and they had my phone number or

2483
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 2: got it through the athletic department. So I get phone

2484
02:07:56,280 --> 02:07:59,240
Speaker 2: calls for articles that are being written and they're asking

2485
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:01,560
Speaker 2: me questions about the other guys who were drafted, and

2486
02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:02,040
Speaker 2: I had to.

2487
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:05,120
Speaker 1: Speak so vaguely because I had no idea who else

2488
02:08:05,120 --> 02:08:07,600
Speaker 1: got drafted out of pend State. I was just like, yeah,

2489
02:08:07,640 --> 02:08:10,440
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. They were all great contracts. I

2490
02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:12,560
Speaker 1: thought I was giving you the well you would have

2491
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 1: met well a q Shipley. Obviously you didn't even mention. Okay,

2492
02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:23,640
Speaker 1: so do you remember the first phone conversation or in

2493
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:27,840
Speaker 1: person conversation or just conversation they had to with Bill Belichick.

2494
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 2: Well, that first conversation was draft day. I barely remember

2495
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:36,400
Speaker 2: it other than him saying, we're really excited about it,

2496
02:08:36,640 --> 02:08:38,680
Speaker 2: We're excited to have you on the team. We'll get

2497
02:08:38,680 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 2: you started here soon, we'll send you information, enjoy the day.

2498
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:45,920
Speaker 2: And that was about it. Robert Kraft got on the

2499
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:46,760
Speaker 2: phone and was kind of.

2500
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:49,880
Speaker 1: Like much was it a robot call or was it actually?

2501
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:53,560
Speaker 2: But it sounded like, well, I'm getting the conversation, you know,

2502
02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:56,000
Speaker 2: after the phone call when I was like digesting everything.

2503
02:08:56,080 --> 02:08:58,480
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure every draft pick gets the same conversation

2504
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:00,960
Speaker 2: from Bill. Yeah, but yeah, I mean the first time

2505
02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:04,120
Speaker 2: he spoke to any of us personally was when we

2506
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 2: showed up for rookie mini camp. And you get to realize,

2507
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:13,120
Speaker 2: and I mean in a hurry, especially in that place,

2508
02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 2: like how much of a business it is like in

2509
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:19,000
Speaker 2: college at that time. Again, this is back in two

2510
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:21,040
Speaker 2: thousand and eight. The two thousand and nine draft is

2511
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:24,520
Speaker 2: when I was selected. There was still this mythology around

2512
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:28,400
Speaker 2: college athletics being amateur athletics, which wasn't true at that

2513
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:31,600
Speaker 2: time either, but that was the mythology and a lot

2514
02:09:31,600 --> 02:09:34,040
Speaker 2: of people bought it. And you know, so you were

2515
02:09:34,160 --> 02:09:37,080
Speaker 2: kind of protected from the business side to sport a

2516
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:39,920
Speaker 2: little bit more in college then than you are now,

2517
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 2: obviously with name, image and likeness rules changing. But when

2518
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 2: you got to New England and you were talking to

2519
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick to say that, to say that he didn't

2520
02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:56,720
Speaker 2: have the entirety of the rookie class walking on eggshells,

2521
02:09:56,720 --> 02:09:58,600
Speaker 2: immediately worried that we were going to lose our job.

2522
02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:02,640
Speaker 2: From day one we didn't perform, there would be an understatement.

2523
02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:05,400
Speaker 2: Everybody was like, where are we?

2524
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:07,480
Speaker 1: Like? What is why? Why is?

2525
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:10,440
Speaker 2: Why is he so scary? This is I mean, but

2526
02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:12,560
Speaker 2: he commands that that presidence.

2527
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:14,440
Speaker 1: You gotta do that. If you're going to run an

2528
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:17,400
Speaker 1: NFL team as a coach, you got to command that

2529
02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:19,600
Speaker 1: kind of respect and the fact that you have maintained

2530
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 1: this tight relationship with the coach all these years. Listen,

2531
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:24,640
Speaker 1: we speak six volumes here, three years there.

2532
02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:26,920
Speaker 2: We speak at least three times a month, and it's

2533
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,200
Speaker 2: it's mainly him and I get it, like, you know.

2534
02:10:29,200 --> 02:10:32,080
Speaker 1: He needs a sounding board. Yeah, Look, and everybody needs

2535
02:10:32,080 --> 02:10:35,160
Speaker 1: that not taking his calls anymore because well he needs it.

2536
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:36,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing. That guy needs a good

2537
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:39,440
Speaker 1: draft this year. Yeah, in a in a hurry, all right.

2538
02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:41,480
Speaker 1: On the other side, we're reunited with one of our

2539
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:45,040
Speaker 1: favorite people. Let's talk some Major League baseball. John Paul

2540
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:49,200
Speaker 1: Morosi JP will join us. Coming up next, that's baseball

2541
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:53,760
Speaker 1: Steve Harbin and Rich Harburger Fox Sports Sunday. We are

2542
02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:58,080
Speaker 1: live from the tyrack dot com studios. We're going to

2543
02:10:58,120 --> 02:11:01,960
Speaker 1: be joined shortly here by one John Paul Morosi. I

2544
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:04,320
Speaker 1: got to ask you Rich down in San Diego. Where

2545
02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:09,040
Speaker 1: you are the Podreys obviously a lot of hype, huge

2546
02:11:09,080 --> 02:11:12,400
Speaker 1: payroll editions. Well, let's get into it with a guy

2547
02:11:12,400 --> 02:11:15,520
Speaker 1: that knows baseball like no other. He is, of course

2548
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:19,040
Speaker 1: with the MLB network, he's mister Hockey on top of

2549
02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:22,720
Speaker 1: everything else. But we love him as a friend. Our

2550
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:26,280
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio MLB insider John Paul Morosi joins us

2551
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:30,080
Speaker 1: once again. JP. It's been a long time we missed.

2552
02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:32,920
Speaker 5: You and my friends, and it is a great time

2553
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:33,360
Speaker 5: of year.

2554
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Speaker 4: We got about a.

2555
02:11:34,040 --> 02:11:37,520
Speaker 5: Month's worth of games to discuss in the baseball world.

2556
02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:41,320
Speaker 5: The NHL Stanley Cup, playoffs are rolling. Some great stories

2557
02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:45,040
Speaker 5: there already. The Seattle Kraken have been a really tough

2558
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:48,520
Speaker 5: competition there early on for the defending Stanley Cup champions

2559
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:51,200
Speaker 5: in Colorado. So some great storylines all the way around.

2560
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:53,960
Speaker 1: Well, the last time that we spoke was right before

2561
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:56,360
Speaker 1: the season. I asked you give us the team that's

2562
02:11:56,400 --> 02:12:00,440
Speaker 1: going to show the most improvement in twenty twenty and

2563
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:02,960
Speaker 1: you did not hesitate. You said it will be the

2564
02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox they lost against today. They're seven and fifteen.

2565
02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:13,280
Speaker 1: The team they lost to the Tampa Bay Rays started

2566
02:12:13,360 --> 02:12:16,240
Speaker 1: thirteen and zero and they're now on another five game

2567
02:12:16,280 --> 02:12:19,160
Speaker 1: winning streak. They're undefeated at home even though no one

2568
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:23,240
Speaker 1: shows up. Give us a little evaluation of the team

2569
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:27,000
Speaker 1: that's running away so far as the best team in baseball.

2570
02:12:27,560 --> 02:12:30,400
Speaker 5: It's a great point. And certainly they are a team

2571
02:12:30,440 --> 02:12:33,120
Speaker 5: that has had even some injuries this year. They had

2572
02:12:33,160 --> 02:12:36,080
Speaker 5: Jeffrey Springs leave the rotation that they have yet to

2573
02:12:36,120 --> 02:12:39,360
Speaker 5: have Tyler Glass now. But you've got Tos Bradley, you've

2574
02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:42,680
Speaker 5: got a lot of great young talent they're entering play.

2575
02:12:42,720 --> 02:12:46,360
Speaker 5: You've got Rasmussen, you've got McClanahan, you've got a great

2576
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:50,120
Speaker 5: group of position players. They've gotten better from the left side,

2577
02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:53,080
Speaker 5: like Brandon Lao has really re emerged. They've got Yanni

2578
02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:56,080
Speaker 5: Diaz over a third base, and they just have so

2579
02:12:56,840 --> 02:13:00,520
Speaker 5: much talent. Wander Franco of course healthy and making a

2580
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:04,879
Speaker 5: huge impact. They are a team that, despite their payroll

2581
02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 5: disadvantages in the toughest division in the game, find ways

2582
02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:14,480
Speaker 5: to win all the time. Kevin Cash great manager, front office,

2583
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:19,200
Speaker 5: Eric Neander, Peter Bendix outstanding. The way that they constantly

2584
02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:22,440
Speaker 5: find ways to innovate is really setting the bar for

2585
02:13:22,480 --> 02:13:25,240
Speaker 5: the whole industry. And I just rattle off the names

2586
02:13:25,240 --> 02:13:27,680
Speaker 5: of six or seven players who are all making an

2587
02:13:27,720 --> 02:13:31,800
Speaker 5: impact in different ways, and their farm system continues to

2588
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 5: do that and churn out top level talent all the time.

2589
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:38,920
Speaker 5: So you've got to give the raise credit. Their creativity

2590
02:13:39,000 --> 02:13:42,600
Speaker 5: continues to impact. And it's a division where I still

2591
02:13:42,680 --> 02:13:45,440
Speaker 5: think that in the end, it won't surprise me if

2592
02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:48,280
Speaker 5: the Yankees find a way to win the division because

2593
02:13:48,320 --> 02:13:51,360
Speaker 5: of how much talent they have. But the thing about

2594
02:13:51,360 --> 02:13:54,200
Speaker 5: the way the Rays have built their team, and let's

2595
02:13:54,240 --> 02:13:56,560
Speaker 5: never lose sight of this. When you have the younger

2596
02:13:56,600 --> 02:14:00,800
Speaker 5: players and you have the ability to be flexible with

2597
02:14:00,840 --> 02:14:04,880
Speaker 5: your roster, optioning players up and down. When you have

2598
02:14:05,080 --> 02:14:09,720
Speaker 5: one player go out with injury, it doesn't fundamentally change

2599
02:14:09,760 --> 02:14:13,000
Speaker 5: and reshape your roster. And look at the Yankees when

2600
02:14:13,120 --> 02:14:15,800
Speaker 5: Stanton is on the injured list, They've got a lot

2601
02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:18,720
Speaker 5: of money on the IL right now. Montas it also

2602
02:14:18,760 --> 02:14:22,560
Speaker 5: fits that description Luis s Everino two. When you have

2603
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:24,960
Speaker 5: players who are hurt and making a bunch of money,

2604
02:14:25,400 --> 02:14:28,960
Speaker 5: it complicates your roster management. When the Rays, when everybody's

2605
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:32,560
Speaker 5: making right around the same, you can shuttle players in

2606
02:14:32,640 --> 02:14:36,080
Speaker 5: and out and it doesn't really change the flow of

2607
02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:39,760
Speaker 5: your roster. So the Rays are just a masterclass for

2608
02:14:40,040 --> 02:14:44,120
Speaker 5: how to build an organization and also honestly the wisdom

2609
02:14:44,440 --> 02:14:48,000
Speaker 5: and the flexibility that comes when you say no to

2610
02:14:48,120 --> 02:14:51,600
Speaker 5: some of the larger contracts that can, in different ways

2611
02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:53,600
Speaker 5: restrict the movements of other clubs.

2612
02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:57,640
Speaker 2: JP Morosi joining us on Fox Sports Radio, going from

2613
02:14:57,640 --> 02:15:00,000
Speaker 2: one corner of the United States to the opposite one,

2614
02:15:00,040 --> 02:15:02,880
Speaker 2: and you got the San Diego Padres with an infusion

2615
02:15:03,440 --> 02:15:07,080
Speaker 2: of some long awaited talent from Fernando Tatis Junior coming

2616
02:15:07,080 --> 02:15:12,080
Speaker 2: off of the IL stints and the performance enhancing drug suspension,

2617
02:15:12,160 --> 02:15:16,120
Speaker 2: and also Joe Muskrove starting pitcher, got his first start

2618
02:15:16,160 --> 02:15:20,000
Speaker 2: over the weekend against the Diamondbacks, gets back from a

2619
02:15:20,040 --> 02:15:25,040
Speaker 2: fractured toe injury from spring training. So look, the Peter Siler,

2620
02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:27,920
Speaker 2: owner of the Padres, has been spending a tremendous amount

2621
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:31,720
Speaker 2: of money in the off seasons, booying the odds of

2622
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:34,960
Speaker 2: success for the Padres. They've got off to a sluggish start,

2623
02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:37,800
Speaker 2: but you know, bring us through it. You know, what

2624
02:15:37,880 --> 02:15:42,920
Speaker 2: are these additions with Muskrove back and Tatis back going

2625
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:45,600
Speaker 2: to mean for the Padres over the course of the season.

2626
02:15:45,960 --> 02:15:49,240
Speaker 2: And I almost balk not to be puny here to

2627
02:15:49,320 --> 02:15:52,480
Speaker 2: ask you the question, which is the more important return

2628
02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:56,320
Speaker 2: for the Padres. Is it Musgrove or is it Tatis.

2629
02:15:56,800 --> 02:15:58,560
Speaker 5: You know, that's a great question because you look at

2630
02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:00,840
Speaker 5: the Padres right now, Rich and they're a game and

2631
02:16:00,880 --> 02:16:05,160
Speaker 5: a half back of the Diamondbacks, not the Dodgers. The

2632
02:16:05,200 --> 02:16:09,400
Speaker 5: Diamondbacks and the Dodgers right now are at eleven and eleven.

2633
02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:12,320
Speaker 5: They have in some ways with there, with some injuries

2634
02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:15,520
Speaker 5: with La and still really you think about Gavin Lux

2635
02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:18,760
Speaker 5: not being there still has had an impact on the Dodgers.

2636
02:16:18,760 --> 02:16:21,000
Speaker 5: They had Mookie Best playing short stuff because he can

2637
02:16:21,080 --> 02:16:24,480
Speaker 5: do everything, which I love, but I think with the padres,

2638
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:29,480
Speaker 5: it makes a greater difference for me that Tatisa's back

2639
02:16:29,600 --> 02:16:33,039
Speaker 5: just because he can change their lineup every game. He

2640
02:16:33,200 --> 02:16:37,080
Speaker 5: impacts every single game, and I think that overall he's

2641
02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:39,800
Speaker 5: played pretty well defensively too, and right field looks like

2642
02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:43,680
Speaker 5: he's really getting more comfortable out there. I would also

2643
02:16:43,720 --> 02:16:46,640
Speaker 5: point out that they really have not yet seen and

2644
02:16:46,680 --> 02:16:49,240
Speaker 5: you guys know this. We haven't seen the best of

2645
02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:51,879
Speaker 5: Soto this year. We haven't even seen the best of

2646
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:55,640
Speaker 5: Machado this year. And so if they're right around five

2647
02:16:55,720 --> 02:16:58,840
Speaker 5: hundred now with getting up until the last couple of

2648
02:16:58,920 --> 02:17:04,160
Speaker 5: days zero from Tatis and really below power expectations from

2649
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:09,600
Speaker 5: Machado and Soto, Bogarts has been brilliant. But this is

2650
02:17:09,640 --> 02:17:13,760
Speaker 5: a team that's built on superstar offensive players. Let's be honest.

2651
02:17:13,760 --> 02:17:16,600
Speaker 5: That's what this team is built on, and they really

2652
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:20,960
Speaker 5: haven't played collectively like superstars yet. I expect they will

2653
02:17:21,280 --> 02:17:23,920
Speaker 5: by the time the season is done. And based on

2654
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:27,920
Speaker 5: Peter Seidler's track record and AJ Preller, you've got two

2655
02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:32,160
Speaker 5: guys who do not stand pat at any trade deadline

2656
02:17:32,200 --> 02:17:35,520
Speaker 5: anytime to improve the roster. So I would expect we'll

2657
02:17:35,560 --> 02:17:38,320
Speaker 5: see them make even more moves of the deadline, given

2658
02:17:38,360 --> 02:17:42,560
Speaker 5: the way the Angels have played. Maybe Otani's out there

2659
02:17:43,360 --> 02:17:46,560
Speaker 5: in July and August, and then obviously in the offseason

2660
02:17:46,600 --> 02:17:49,360
Speaker 5: as well. So there are just so many different avenues

2661
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:52,520
Speaker 5: for the Padres to go. And one thing that I

2662
02:17:52,600 --> 02:17:55,000
Speaker 5: think is totally true of all the years that I've

2663
02:17:55,040 --> 02:17:59,000
Speaker 5: covered baseball is that one of the bromides and truisms

2664
02:17:59,040 --> 02:18:03,080
Speaker 5: that have survived because it's accurate, is you cannot win

2665
02:18:03,160 --> 02:18:05,640
Speaker 5: the division in April, but you can certainly lose it.

2666
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:09,840
Speaker 5: And the Padres have not lost it. They have in

2667
02:18:09,879 --> 02:18:13,840
Speaker 5: some ways underperformed expectations, but when you look up and

2668
02:18:13,879 --> 02:18:16,439
Speaker 5: you're just a game and a half behind the Diamondbacks,

2669
02:18:16,920 --> 02:18:18,959
Speaker 5: you feel like you've got a chance to play more

2670
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:23,360
Speaker 5: than two games better than Arizona over the final five months.

2671
02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:26,680
Speaker 5: So the Padres should feel and I think do feel,

2672
02:18:27,040 --> 02:18:28,240
Speaker 5: quite good about their chances.

2673
02:18:28,360 --> 02:18:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking earlier about the Rays and how they just

2674
02:18:30,640 --> 02:18:34,720
Speaker 1: seemingly do it year after year, despite limited fans support,

2675
02:18:34,920 --> 02:18:38,560
Speaker 1: limited money being spent on players. The Oakland A's are

2676
02:18:38,560 --> 02:18:42,280
Speaker 1: that same team for many many years. They're not anymore.

2677
02:18:42,680 --> 02:18:44,760
Speaker 1: This is not just a bad team. This is a

2678
02:18:45,160 --> 02:18:49,480
Speaker 1: historically bad team through twenty one games. Get this, guys,

2679
02:18:49,760 --> 02:18:55,560
Speaker 1: Their team Erra is eight point zero eight as a

2680
02:18:55,800 --> 02:19:00,680
Speaker 1: team money, they've been outscored by one hundred runs this year.

2681
02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:03,560
Speaker 1: And now all the buzz about the move to Vegas.

2682
02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:07,960
Speaker 1: What has happened to Billy being this A's organization that

2683
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:13,119
Speaker 1: we find themselves, like I said, not just bad, historically bad.

2684
02:19:13,720 --> 02:19:16,400
Speaker 5: No, it's a very fair point. And you look at

2685
02:19:16,520 --> 02:19:21,039
Speaker 5: the payroll wise. I mean, their payroll now is substantially

2686
02:19:21,040 --> 02:19:23,640
Speaker 5: lower than what Tampa's is, and I think that that's

2687
02:19:24,160 --> 02:19:26,680
Speaker 5: part of the issue. If they had kept their team together.

2688
02:19:27,240 --> 02:19:29,760
Speaker 5: Let's think about what Matt Chapman is doing right now

2689
02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:34,200
Speaker 5: in Toronto, what Matt Olsen has done in Atlanta. They

2690
02:19:34,280 --> 02:19:37,360
Speaker 5: had a pretty good base of talent that they just

2691
02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:39,959
Speaker 5: had to move on from. And I think that part

2692
02:19:40,040 --> 02:19:43,720
Speaker 5: of what makes the Rays really good is that they

2693
02:19:43,760 --> 02:19:47,680
Speaker 5: seem to optimize and when they make moves, they bring

2694
02:19:47,720 --> 02:19:50,720
Speaker 5: in the right guys in trades, and they hit on

2695
02:19:50,800 --> 02:19:54,039
Speaker 5: those trades when they move players out, like the Chris

2696
02:19:54,120 --> 02:19:57,320
Speaker 5: Archer trade is one really strong example of that. And

2697
02:19:57,959 --> 02:20:00,360
Speaker 5: the A's, I just think haven't quite brought on the

2698
02:20:00,360 --> 02:20:03,840
Speaker 5: same level of talent in the draft and developing it.

2699
02:20:03,879 --> 02:20:07,400
Speaker 5: And then they also haven't maybe hit on the right trades,

2700
02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:11,280
Speaker 5: and the A's don't have Wander Franco on their team,

2701
02:20:11,280 --> 02:20:14,920
Speaker 5: and that's a huge difference in terms of what Wander brings,

2702
02:20:14,920 --> 02:20:18,240
Speaker 5: and they don't have a Shane McLanahan right now. There's

2703
02:20:18,280 --> 02:20:22,439
Speaker 5: a few superstar players that have kept the Rays afloat

2704
02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:26,240
Speaker 5: that simply are not on Oakland's team. And you're right.

2705
02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:29,480
Speaker 5: I mean, now we're entering this phase where I do

2706
02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:33,160
Speaker 5: think the last year or so they were really spinning

2707
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:36,000
Speaker 5: their tires trying to figure out this ballpark situation and

2708
02:20:36,480 --> 02:20:40,279
Speaker 5: not able to really get any sort of direction until

2709
02:20:40,480 --> 02:20:43,120
Speaker 5: the stadium situation was resolved. And now in the last

2710
02:20:43,120 --> 02:20:47,119
Speaker 5: week we saw what happened, and I think that with Vegas,

2711
02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:53,400
Speaker 5: hopefully for the A's organizationally, they'll finally have some direction

2712
02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:57,920
Speaker 5: and the ability to just keep your players when when

2713
02:20:57,959 --> 02:21:00,800
Speaker 5: they even get to arbitration years and you want to

2714
02:21:00,879 --> 02:21:03,400
Speaker 5: keep them there. I mean that that's something that the

2715
02:21:03,480 --> 02:21:06,080
Speaker 5: A's just haven't been able to do, and the Rays

2716
02:21:06,120 --> 02:21:09,560
Speaker 5: at least have had enough consistency in the near term

2717
02:21:09,600 --> 02:21:12,680
Speaker 5: to do it. So it's obviously a difficult time for

2718
02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:15,800
Speaker 5: fans in the East Bay, but you look at what

2719
02:21:16,120 --> 02:21:18,600
Speaker 5: could happen and the success you see the Vegas Golden

2720
02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:21,680
Speaker 5: Knights now playing in the Stanley Cup playoffs and the

2721
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:23,600
Speaker 5: new ballpark is going to be just west of there.

2722
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:28,720
Speaker 5: This move seemed rather inevitable for a while, and it

2723
02:21:28,840 --> 02:21:31,520
Speaker 5: just makes a lot of sense when you consider the

2724
02:21:31,560 --> 02:21:34,120
Speaker 5: difficulty they were going to have in California, getting the

2725
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:38,360
Speaker 5: land use approved, getting the purchase all all sorted out.

2726
02:21:38,400 --> 02:21:40,640
Speaker 5: It was just it was going to take far too

2727
02:21:40,680 --> 02:21:43,840
Speaker 5: long without a guarantee of success. And I think that

2728
02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:46,720
Speaker 5: it just based on where they were with the calendar,

2729
02:21:47,160 --> 02:21:50,760
Speaker 5: this was the one logical move to make. As difficult

2730
02:21:50,800 --> 02:21:53,000
Speaker 5: as it is for the for the loyal fans in.

2731
02:21:52,920 --> 02:21:56,560
Speaker 2: The East Bay, JP ball doctoring is something that is

2732
02:21:56,640 --> 02:21:59,560
Speaker 2: as it's as much a part of the sport a

2733
02:21:59,600 --> 02:22:04,039
Speaker 2: base anything else. It's been going on for forever, I

2734
02:22:04,080 --> 02:22:06,959
Speaker 2: mean forever and ever. I mean there's certain guys who

2735
02:22:07,080 --> 02:22:10,040
Speaker 2: whether it's sticky, or it's slippery, or it's you know,

2736
02:22:10,080 --> 02:22:12,480
Speaker 2: they like to play with a baseball that's been hard

2737
02:22:12,560 --> 02:22:16,080
Speaker 2: hit because it gives a little wobble or a little

2738
02:22:16,080 --> 02:22:19,920
Speaker 2: extra tail to certain pitches. I mean These guys know

2739
02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:24,200
Speaker 2: a baseball like it's an appendage, like it's attached to them,

2740
02:22:24,280 --> 02:22:29,080
Speaker 2: these pitchers and Max Schurzer obviously is is suspended ten

2741
02:22:29,120 --> 02:22:31,400
Speaker 2: games now for sticky stuff.

2742
02:22:31,840 --> 02:22:35,600
Speaker 1: Ten games. He didn't appeal, so he'll serve out the suspension,

2743
02:22:35,640 --> 02:22:37,840
Speaker 1: most likely missed two starts, and then he'll be back.

2744
02:22:38,560 --> 02:22:41,160
Speaker 1: He swears that it was just sweat and rosin. He

2745
02:22:41,240 --> 02:22:44,560
Speaker 1: swears that he did nothing that was below board and

2746
02:22:44,600 --> 02:22:48,880
Speaker 1: that this was an overreaction from an over eager umpiring crew.

2747
02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:51,720
Speaker 1: Where do you fall on this, like, because there are

2748
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:54,400
Speaker 1: certain people who are annoyed by the pitch clock and

2749
02:22:54,440 --> 02:22:56,760
Speaker 1: the changes to baseball with the banning of the shift

2750
02:22:56,760 --> 02:22:58,959
Speaker 1: and all those other things, because they say, this isn't

2751
02:22:59,000 --> 02:22:59,879
Speaker 1: pure baseball.

2752
02:23:00,280 --> 02:23:02,680
Speaker 2: And now you have this rule that is going to

2753
02:23:02,680 --> 02:23:05,280
Speaker 2: have one of the most brilliant pitchers have a game

2754
02:23:05,320 --> 02:23:08,720
Speaker 2: for two starts this season. What can baseball do to

2755
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:10,560
Speaker 2: fix this or does it need fixing?

2756
02:23:10,600 --> 02:23:13,359
Speaker 1: In your opinion, Well, Rich, I don't.

2757
02:23:13,160 --> 02:23:16,720
Speaker 5: Know that we really have to have a dramatic change

2758
02:23:16,760 --> 02:23:19,160
Speaker 5: to the way the rules are written now in the

2759
02:23:19,320 --> 02:23:24,560
Speaker 5: enforcement of them. I think that the issue. I guess

2760
02:23:24,560 --> 02:23:28,200
Speaker 5: I'll back up and say this, it is both possible

2761
02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:33,920
Speaker 5: that Max did not intend to have a substance on

2762
02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:37,160
Speaker 5: his hand or to accrue that amount of rosin on

2763
02:23:37,240 --> 02:23:41,320
Speaker 5: his hand. And it's also possible that by the end

2764
02:23:41,360 --> 02:23:44,640
Speaker 5: of whatever was going on with the rosin and the

2765
02:23:44,680 --> 02:23:48,080
Speaker 5: substances or however he tried to clean his hands, if

2766
02:23:48,080 --> 02:23:53,720
Speaker 5: he used alcohol, whatever it was that was, that that

2767
02:23:53,840 --> 02:23:59,199
Speaker 5: resulted in a unfair advantage to Max. And so both

2768
02:23:59,240 --> 02:24:02,200
Speaker 5: those things can be true. It could have been unintentional,

2769
02:24:02,800 --> 02:24:04,800
Speaker 5: and it also could have reached the point where it

2770
02:24:04,840 --> 02:24:09,360
Speaker 5: was an unfair advantage. And if again, if rubbing alcohol

2771
02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:12,720
Speaker 5: would have been used at the recommendation of anyone there

2772
02:24:13,320 --> 02:24:15,840
Speaker 5: or his own discretion, that that part is a little

2773
02:24:15,879 --> 02:24:19,000
Speaker 5: unclear to me. But I've spoken with experts in the

2774
02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:22,560
Speaker 5: field who say that if you combine rosin with a

2775
02:24:22,640 --> 02:24:25,400
Speaker 5: rubbing alcohol and try to use that as a method

2776
02:24:25,400 --> 02:24:27,920
Speaker 5: of cleaning your hands, that it's actually going to do

2777
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:30,480
Speaker 5: the opposite, and it's going to clump up and become

2778
02:24:30,720 --> 02:24:36,560
Speaker 5: something that is really sticky and almost solid inconsistency. And

2779
02:24:36,600 --> 02:24:39,520
Speaker 5: if that happened, obviously, at the end of the day,

2780
02:24:40,040 --> 02:24:42,879
Speaker 5: you're responsible as a picture for whatever you're bringing out

2781
02:24:42,879 --> 02:24:45,840
Speaker 5: to the mound, and whatever's on your person and if,

2782
02:24:45,879 --> 02:24:47,720
Speaker 5: in the opinion of the umpiring crew isn't said in

2783
02:24:47,720 --> 02:24:53,240
Speaker 5: the statement, it resulted in a sticky level of substance

2784
02:24:53,560 --> 02:24:55,640
Speaker 5: the likes of which they had never seen before in

2785
02:24:55,680 --> 02:24:59,959
Speaker 5: the enforcement period. That's a hard thing for Max to overcome.

2786
02:25:00,200 --> 02:25:03,400
Speaker 5: And obviously he is not going to appeal the suspension

2787
02:25:03,440 --> 02:25:06,959
Speaker 5: any longer. He's he's decided to accept it. I think

2788
02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:12,039
Speaker 5: it's a very high profile case and reminder to to

2789
02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:16,959
Speaker 5: all pictures about the need to be familiar with the

2790
02:25:17,080 --> 02:25:20,039
Speaker 5: rosin that you're using anything else that's on your hands,

2791
02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:24,240
Speaker 5: whether it's legal or otherwise, and to understand what you're

2792
02:25:24,280 --> 02:25:27,560
Speaker 5: bringing out to the mount and the responsibility to make

2793
02:25:27,560 --> 02:25:30,440
Speaker 5: sure that whatever you have on your person that it

2794
02:25:30,520 --> 02:25:35,200
Speaker 5: is a legal level of rosin. And there in fact,

2795
02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:38,720
Speaker 5: the MLB rules stipulate that if you combine rosin with

2796
02:25:38,920 --> 02:25:42,959
Speaker 5: some other substance, it could constitute a violation if it

2797
02:25:43,040 --> 02:25:46,000
Speaker 5: results in a in a very thick and very solid,

2798
02:25:46,280 --> 02:25:51,240
Speaker 5: seeming sticky substance. So it's obviously a very unique part

2799
02:25:51,280 --> 02:25:54,000
Speaker 5: of the game. But at the end of the day,

2800
02:25:54,200 --> 02:25:57,840
Speaker 5: they're the enforcement is there for a reason. The the

2801
02:25:58,080 --> 02:26:01,920
Speaker 5: idea of a level playing field is there for a reason,

2802
02:26:02,360 --> 02:26:05,280
Speaker 5: and I'll add finally that I don't think this will

2803
02:26:06,360 --> 02:26:08,720
Speaker 5: for me as a as a Hall of Fame voter.

2804
02:26:08,800 --> 02:26:10,840
Speaker 5: It's not going to change how I look at Max

2805
02:26:10,879 --> 02:26:14,200
Speaker 5: as his career. I'm not going to sort of dock

2806
02:26:14,320 --> 02:26:17,360
Speaker 5: him points in my own mind for his overall career

2807
02:26:17,440 --> 02:26:20,360
Speaker 5: based on this moment. But at the end of the day,

2808
02:26:20,760 --> 02:26:23,480
Speaker 5: he violated what you're supposed to have on your hands

2809
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,200
Speaker 5: based on the stickiness of it, and he's serving a

2810
02:26:26,200 --> 02:26:26,920
Speaker 5: penalty right now.

2811
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:29,760
Speaker 1: Tater Chater. I was at that game, believe it or not.

2812
02:26:29,879 --> 02:26:31,400
Speaker 1: I was at that game. I went with a buddy

2813
02:26:31,400 --> 02:26:33,760
Speaker 1: of mine day game out of Dodgers Stadium. Saw the

2814
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:37,840
Speaker 1: argument on the first baseline, JP, we have run out

2815
02:26:37,840 --> 02:26:40,360
Speaker 1: of time. We could go literally all day, all night.

2816
02:26:40,560 --> 02:26:42,840
Speaker 1: Do not leave us hanging for another month. We need

2817
02:26:42,879 --> 02:26:45,120
Speaker 1: to talk to you a as.

2818
02:26:45,360 --> 02:26:46,720
Speaker 5: That's great. I can't wait.

2819
02:26:46,760 --> 02:26:46,960
Speaker 1: Guys.

2820
02:26:47,000 --> 02:26:49,160
Speaker 5: We will do it again very soon, and then when

2821
02:26:49,160 --> 02:26:52,959
Speaker 5: we next talk, we'll have even more great hockey conversation.

2822
02:26:53,120 --> 02:26:55,320
Speaker 5: Yeah as well, so hockey and baseball this time here,

2823
02:26:55,400 --> 02:26:56,520
Speaker 5: my friends always look forward to it.

2824
02:26:56,600 --> 02:26:59,560
Speaker 1: You're the best. Thanks JP. We'll talk to you next time.

2825
02:26:59,600 --> 02:27:02,440
Speaker 1: That's John Paul Morosire, our Fox Sports Radio MLB inside

2826
02:27:02,440 --> 02:27:04,200
Speaker 1: of Mister Hockey as well. Let's find out what it's

2827
02:27:04,240 --> 02:27:09,880
Speaker 1: trending as we welcome back Monsey once again. I don't

2828
02:27:09,879 --> 02:27:13,000
Speaker 1: know what do you think? I mean he got caught right?

2829
02:27:13,160 --> 02:27:15,680
Speaker 3: Do you think he was cheating? I don't know what.

2830
02:27:15,680 --> 02:27:18,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. I want to believe him.

2831
02:27:18,800 --> 02:27:20,959
Speaker 1: Was it not? Is any tainted? You know? The one

2832
02:27:21,440 --> 02:27:23,600
Speaker 1: one follow I was going to ask if even the

2833
02:27:23,600 --> 02:27:26,800
Speaker 1: Fernando Tatis Junior story is so unique because we never

2834
02:27:26,840 --> 02:27:29,160
Speaker 1: had a player that young so early, and it's Greg

2835
02:27:29,280 --> 02:27:32,160
Speaker 1: get busted for peds. If he goes on to have

2836
02:27:32,240 --> 02:27:35,120
Speaker 1: three thousand hits five hundred home runs, is he had

2837
02:27:35,360 --> 02:27:38,160
Speaker 1: no chance of ever being in the Hall of Fame

2838
02:27:38,360 --> 02:27:41,080
Speaker 1: as it stands right now with the current cast of

2839
02:27:41,200 --> 02:27:45,160
Speaker 1: characters voting for Baseball Hall of Fame, No answer is no, No,

2840
02:27:45,240 --> 02:27:48,280
Speaker 1: he yeero chance to make it no matter what he does.

2841
02:27:48,320 --> 02:27:51,000
Speaker 4: For real, he's one of the few players that has

2842
02:27:51,080 --> 02:27:53,080
Speaker 4: hit a home run out of Dodger Stadium.

2843
02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:55,800
Speaker 3: Yes, And so now you know when I if.

2844
02:27:55,640 --> 02:27:58,120
Speaker 4: I'm giving a tour and I mentioned that, I'm like, well,

2845
02:27:58,120 --> 02:28:01,160
Speaker 4: we all know why he's one of them, because.

2846
02:28:00,879 --> 02:28:03,640
Speaker 3: You can't not mention it. Yeah, he hit that before

2847
02:28:03,680 --> 02:28:04,720
Speaker 3: we found out about the stare.

2848
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:08,000
Speaker 4: It's like, I feel like it's just always going to

2849
02:28:08,000 --> 02:28:09,240
Speaker 4: be part of his story.

2850
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:11,080
Speaker 3: It is, and that's what sucks.

2851
02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:14,920
Speaker 1: The unfortunate reality is, like you said, it's a legacy

2852
02:28:15,040 --> 02:28:17,959
Speaker 1: defining moment, and it happened to him when he was

2853
02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:21,760
Speaker 1: twenty three years ever, Yeah that young. I mean Ryan

2854
02:28:21,800 --> 02:28:24,760
Speaker 1: Brown got busted after a couple of eight years. That

2855
02:28:24,879 --> 02:28:26,840
Speaker 1: tainted his career when it looked like he was on

2856
02:28:26,879 --> 02:28:28,800
Speaker 1: a trajectory to go to the Hall of Fame. All

2857
02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:32,879
Speaker 1: players can play until they're forty. I mean, like imagine,

2858
02:28:32,959 --> 02:28:37,280
Speaker 1: like we're talking about Fernando Tatist junior, seventeen years after

2859
02:28:37,360 --> 02:28:40,840
Speaker 1: a positive three thousand hits five hundred, I'll still be

2860
02:28:40,879 --> 02:28:43,960
Speaker 1: playing and it'll I know it. It will still come

2861
02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:45,280
Speaker 1: up in conversation. I'm believed.

2862
02:28:45,360 --> 02:28:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and shures there is probably going to come up

2863
02:28:47,600 --> 02:28:48,240
Speaker 3: in conversations.

2864
02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:51,200
Speaker 4: But I don't think it has tainted what he has

2865
02:28:51,320 --> 02:28:52,640
Speaker 4: done well.

2866
02:28:52,440 --> 02:28:54,920
Speaker 1: Now with John Palmer Rose. Yeah, some others might say.

2867
02:28:54,879 --> 02:28:58,800
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe, But if that substance and sweat really does,

2868
02:28:59,000 --> 02:29:01,840
Speaker 4: or that powder and the sweat really does make you sticky,

2869
02:29:02,320 --> 02:29:04,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, but if it does make you sticky,

2870
02:29:04,480 --> 02:29:05,720
Speaker 4: then you can't.

2871
02:29:05,720 --> 02:29:07,280
Speaker 3: I mean, if that's what it is, and that's what

2872
02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:07,920
Speaker 3: it is.

2873
02:29:07,840 --> 02:29:12,000
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the conversation is circulating around the fact that, Okay,

2874
02:29:12,040 --> 02:29:14,720
Speaker 2: if it was just his sweat and rosin right, well

2875
02:29:14,720 --> 02:29:17,200
Speaker 2: that's one thing. But if it was something else, you know,

2876
02:29:17,360 --> 02:29:20,480
Speaker 2: purelle or something or sunscreen.

2877
02:29:20,520 --> 02:29:22,959
Speaker 1: Said it was beyond that way beyond.

2878
02:29:23,080 --> 02:29:25,160
Speaker 4: But also it took him three innings to figure it out.

2879
02:29:25,040 --> 02:29:26,359
Speaker 3: Didn't he like keep checking.

2880
02:29:26,200 --> 02:29:28,360
Speaker 1: Well, they kept asking him to change his Yeah, and.

2881
02:29:28,320 --> 02:29:30,320
Speaker 3: Then he said he washed his hands and all that

2882
02:29:30,400 --> 02:29:32,280
Speaker 3: in front of them. So I'm just like if and.

2883
02:29:32,240 --> 02:29:36,199
Speaker 1: Every time they checked him it was sticky er. Yes, yeah,

2884
02:29:36,320 --> 02:29:38,560
Speaker 1: I was right, it was going in the long direction.

2885
02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:41,920
Speaker 4: Oh well, guys, we do have Game four right now

2886
02:29:41,959 --> 02:29:45,080
Speaker 4: between the Kings and Golden State, and the Kings have

2887
02:29:45,240 --> 02:29:47,840
Speaker 4: taken the lead. They are up sixty to fifty two

2888
02:29:47,920 --> 02:29:50,280
Speaker 4: with three minutes to go in the first half. D

2889
02:29:50,400 --> 02:29:53,199
Speaker 4: Aaron Fox ended the first quarter with a three pointer

2890
02:29:53,280 --> 02:29:54,879
Speaker 4: and has kind of just carried on.

2891
02:29:55,280 --> 02:29:56,840
Speaker 3: He's eight or fourteen from the field.

2892
02:29:56,879 --> 02:29:59,879
Speaker 4: He has nineteen points, four rebounds for uses.

2893
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:01,200
Speaker 3: He leads all scores.

2894
02:30:01,480 --> 02:30:04,760
Speaker 4: Steph Curry nine points, Jordan Pool twelve points for the Warriors,

2895
02:30:04,760 --> 02:30:08,119
Speaker 4: but the Warriors are currently down by seven and Sacramento.

2896
02:30:07,760 --> 02:30:09,680
Speaker 3: Leads this series two to one.

2897
02:30:09,760 --> 02:30:11,720
Speaker 4: It's the Knicks who now lead the series over the

2898
02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:13,880
Speaker 4: Cavaliers three to one. They beat them in Game four

2899
02:30:13,879 --> 02:30:15,960
Speaker 4: one o two to ninety three. Jalen Brunson led the

2900
02:30:15,959 --> 02:30:17,960
Speaker 4: way with twenty nine points. He had five three pointers,

2901
02:30:18,280 --> 02:30:21,840
Speaker 4: six rebounds, and six assists in the victory. On the ice,

2902
02:30:22,120 --> 02:30:24,480
Speaker 4: the team that is expected to win the Stanley Cup,

2903
02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:27,480
Speaker 4: the Bruins are currently beating the Panthers one zero after

2904
02:30:27,560 --> 02:30:30,840
Speaker 4: the first period, but the Hurricanes did beat the Islanders

2905
02:30:30,879 --> 02:30:33,039
Speaker 4: five to two in their Game four and now they

2906
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:36,359
Speaker 4: lead that series three to one. In Major League Baseball,

2907
02:30:36,800 --> 02:30:40,600
Speaker 4: Max Munsey has hit his major league leading eleventh homer

2908
02:30:40,680 --> 02:30:43,360
Speaker 4: and the Dodgers are beating the Cubs seven to three

2909
02:30:43,440 --> 02:30:46,640
Speaker 4: in Chicago. Bottom of the ninth inning is about to start.

2910
02:30:46,760 --> 02:30:48,879
Speaker 4: The Red Sox and the Brewers were tied, but not anymore.

2911
02:30:48,920 --> 02:30:50,600
Speaker 4: Red Sox are on top five to four. Top of

2912
02:30:50,640 --> 02:30:53,240
Speaker 4: the eighth inning. They are playing in Milwaukee. Royals and

2913
02:30:53,280 --> 02:30:55,920
Speaker 4: Angels are tied at one apiece. Top of the third inning.

2914
02:30:56,160 --> 02:30:58,920
Speaker 4: The Yankees lost in the Bronx to the Blue Jays

2915
02:30:58,959 --> 02:31:02,800
Speaker 4: five to one, and the Rays they're still doing well

2916
02:31:02,840 --> 02:31:06,199
Speaker 4: for one against the White Sox twenty two straight games

2917
02:31:06,200 --> 02:31:06,840
Speaker 4: with the home run.

2918
02:31:06,879 --> 02:31:09,320
Speaker 3: But it's the hot Pirates. The Pirates won seven.

2919
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:09,520
Speaker 1: In a row.

2920
02:31:09,640 --> 02:31:11,160
Speaker 3: I didn't think I was ever gonna say that seven

2921
02:31:11,200 --> 02:31:13,280
Speaker 3: in a row. They beat the Reds to zero. Guys,

2922
02:31:13,280 --> 02:31:14,680
Speaker 3: it's been fun back.

2923
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:17,000
Speaker 1: To you month. See. I'm just so glad that you're

2924
02:31:17,040 --> 02:31:19,280
Speaker 1: gonna get that eggplant.

2925
02:31:19,400 --> 02:31:21,280
Speaker 3: Oh me too, specially do we.

2926
02:31:21,200 --> 02:31:24,800
Speaker 4: Have an actual date gonna I'm gonna let the chef decide.

2927
02:31:24,879 --> 02:31:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll bring her the eggplant at some point. Yeah,

2928
02:31:28,480 --> 02:31:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe next weekend, maybe the weekend after,

2929
02:31:31,200 --> 02:31:33,640
Speaker 1: but at some point it will be delivered. And we

2930
02:31:33,680 --> 02:31:36,000
Speaker 1: need to have video evidence of the flamethrower.

2931
02:31:36,080 --> 02:31:38,320
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, or happen.

2932
02:31:38,440 --> 02:31:40,400
Speaker 1: You've never done that with an egg plant before. I

2933
02:31:40,400 --> 02:31:43,000
Speaker 1: would imagine you have to have a couple of trials

2934
02:31:43,040 --> 02:31:46,039
Speaker 1: on that one. This is yeah, we're absolutely gonna have to.

2935
02:31:46,200 --> 02:31:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be quite sure, how well, and you

2936
02:31:48,680 --> 02:31:50,400
Speaker 2: know what, practice makes perfect, right, And the.

2937
02:31:50,400 --> 02:31:52,520
Speaker 4: Good thing is with eggplaning, you it's better to almost

2938
02:31:52,560 --> 02:31:54,240
Speaker 4: overcook it or else it's gonna be slimy.

2939
02:31:54,400 --> 02:31:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, So really we can't go wrong here.

2940
02:31:57,040 --> 02:32:00,320
Speaker 1: Very good. I can't wait. I can't wait, all right,

2941
02:32:00,320 --> 02:32:02,560
Speaker 1: mon see, thank you so much. By the way, watching

2942
02:32:03,160 --> 02:32:06,920
Speaker 1: Sacramento right now. They put up sixty two with two

2943
02:32:06,920 --> 02:32:09,039
Speaker 1: minutes to go in the first half, and Daron Fox

2944
02:32:09,200 --> 02:32:12,360
Speaker 1: is all that. By the way, Mike Brown was the

2945
02:32:12,400 --> 02:32:16,280
Speaker 1: first coach ever and they've had the NBA Coach of

2946
02:32:16,280 --> 02:32:19,840
Speaker 1: the Awards since nineteen sixty three to be unanimous. There's

2947
02:32:19,959 --> 02:32:22,560
Speaker 1: never been a unanimous one hundred votes. He got all

2948
02:32:22,600 --> 02:32:27,080
Speaker 1: one hundred first place votes and for good reason, what

2949
02:32:27,120 --> 02:32:29,000
Speaker 1: Mike Brown has done. And think about Mike Brown right

2950
02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:31,400
Speaker 1: he was the coach of the Calves the first time

2951
02:32:31,680 --> 02:32:33,840
Speaker 1: that Lebron was with the Cavs. When he exited to

2952
02:32:33,840 --> 02:32:36,360
Speaker 1: go to Miami, he was the Lakers coach for a while.

2953
02:32:36,400 --> 02:32:37,959
Speaker 1: I covered the Lakers quite a bit during the Mike

2954
02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:40,280
Speaker 1: Brown are a great guy. And then he went to

2955
02:32:40,280 --> 02:32:42,240
Speaker 1: Golden State sort of sat on the bench with Steve

2956
02:32:42,320 --> 02:32:45,440
Speaker 1: Kerve for a lot of years. Who wanted that Sacramento job,

2957
02:32:45,560 --> 02:32:49,160
Speaker 1: like nobody, but Mike Brown said no. I got Daron Fox,

2958
02:32:49,200 --> 02:32:51,760
Speaker 1: I got Sabonis, we got some tools to work around,

2959
02:32:52,280 --> 02:32:56,320
Speaker 1: and right now they have a six point lead on

2960
02:32:56,480 --> 02:32:59,400
Speaker 1: the road against the Warriors. Tell you what if Sacramento

2961
02:32:59,440 --> 02:33:02,200
Speaker 1: wins this game, this series is over. Yeah, this is

2962
02:33:02,240 --> 02:33:04,920
Speaker 1: gonna be Game five, will be back in Sacramento. Yeah,

2963
02:33:04,959 --> 02:33:07,840
Speaker 1: that place will be out of their minds. This is

2964
02:33:07,879 --> 02:33:14,480
Speaker 1: gonna be an inert completely. I'm an undeniable team at

2965
02:33:14,480 --> 02:33:18,119
Speaker 1: that point in Sacramento. But yeah, Warriors, you could tell

2966
02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:19,120
Speaker 1: they're pressing. Uh.

2967
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:22,840
Speaker 2: Draymond came off the bench following the suspension for the

2968
02:33:23,200 --> 02:33:27,360
Speaker 2: flagrant two against the Bonus. He's on the court. You

2969
02:33:27,480 --> 02:33:32,120
Speaker 2: got obviously a healthy enough Golden State Warriors team that

2970
02:33:32,440 --> 02:33:36,440
Speaker 2: they can't make the excuse, Hey, you know, we just

2971
02:33:37,040 --> 02:33:39,920
Speaker 2: we didn't have enough for this or no. I mean,

2972
02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:42,879
Speaker 2: if they get beat by the Kings, it's because the

2973
02:33:42,959 --> 02:33:45,760
Speaker 2: Kings were better. It's because they were better prepared, or

2974
02:33:45,760 --> 02:33:49,760
Speaker 2: wanted it more, whatever the circumstances may be. This it's

2975
02:33:49,800 --> 02:33:52,200
Speaker 2: it's kind of amazing what they've been able to pull off.

2976
02:33:52,200 --> 02:33:54,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, you got to give credit where credits due.

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Speaker 2: Coaching doesn't often matter in the NBA. A lot of

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Speaker 2: it's star driven, but in this case, it's undeniable. You

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Speaker 2: have to give Mike Brown a tremendous amount of credit.

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Speaker 1: One of his assistants Doug Christie, one of the most

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Speaker 1: notorious Kings back in the day that was one of

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Speaker 1: the most forgotten if you don't remember. The Lakers Kings

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Speaker 1: rivalry in the early two thousands was as intense for

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Speaker 1: short period as any rivalry in NBA history. All Right,

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Speaker 1: some thoughts about the week ahead, Some final thoughts as

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Speaker 1: to get ready for the NFL Draft. This is Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Sunday. It's seventeen to fifteen Sibernus now just inside

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Speaker 1: the free throw line against Draymond out to Kegan uncovered

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports and they live from the tire

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Speaker 1: Rack dot Com studios. Very emotional day all around. Sam,

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Speaker 1: is this how many more shows will you actually do

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Speaker 1: from this studio?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 1: They will continue If I'm not asking you about I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about you. I will do two thirds of one

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Speaker 1: more show coming up next. That's it, and then that

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Speaker 1: is it. Yes, and then I'm I'm back here.

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Speaker 9: I'm probably gonna do a little rehearsal in the new

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Speaker 9: studio on Tuesday because we have a big day on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, so it'll start with Doug

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Speaker 1: GOTTLEIEB Show on Tuesday, shadowing John Ramos. Yeah, yeah, well

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Speaker 1: the master himself. Yes, great stuff is always Sam and

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Speaker 1: of course montsee today she finally is going to get

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Speaker 1: that egg plant was outstanding at least? Yes, yep, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're welcome, thank you. It wouldn't be unbelievable if like

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Speaker 1: Kawhi shows up for game five dominates, they win that game,

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Speaker 1: come back, and then.

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Speaker 3: He wins out and then he gets hurting on or something.

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Speaker 1: How about this, how about he comes back, they win

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Speaker 1: game five, comeback, win game six, and then he decides

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Speaker 1: I can't play game set.

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Speaker 3: I would lose it.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's basically when happening games one and two. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: just like outstanding outs, I could play two games in

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Speaker 1: a row, but not three.

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Speaker 3: I would use it. I would absolutely use it.

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Speaker 1: That would be that would be unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at poor Stephen A on the on

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Speaker 2: the television right now. He looks like he's aging right

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Speaker 2: in front of our eyes. Can't believe he had that

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Speaker 2: emotional rant about Kawhi Leonard. He couldn't he couldn't believe

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Speaker 2: what he was seeing.

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Speaker 1: Kings leading the Warriors by four at the half, sixty

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Speaker 1: nine points for the Kings. Where's that Warriors defense? Bo

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Speaker 1: Cars are brilliant producer and bo We got the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft coming up on Thursday. And as the Eagles remember,

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Speaker 1: this was a weird trade they had with the Saints

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Speaker 1: last year where they traded a bunch of picks and

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Speaker 1: it turns out all of dust settles. They have the

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Speaker 1: tenth pick in the draft. So I want bow, I

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Speaker 1: want your prediction on your Eagles who they will select

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Speaker 1: tenth overall in this twenty twenty three NFL Draft.

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Speaker 8: Can I Can they trade it? Or do I have

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Speaker 8: to say they're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna know it? If you think they'll get so.

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Speaker 8: I think there's three things that will happen. Of of

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Speaker 8: those three, uh, they're either going to move up if

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Speaker 8: Jalen Carter falls past Seattle at five. All right, I

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Speaker 8: think they'll move up to get Jalen Carter. They'll move down.

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Speaker 8: If like a quarterback falls, they'll move down and they'll

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Speaker 8: pick up Jon Robinson if he's available in the middle

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Speaker 8: of the first uh and if they stay If they

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Speaker 8: stay there, I think they're going to take uh Smith

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Speaker 8: and Jigba if he is still there at ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why not just get another weapon? Although he didn't

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Speaker 1: play last year, really.

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Speaker 8: Did Yeah, he was pretty much I think he played

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Speaker 8: one game last year, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Rose Bowl of rose Balls. What were his numbers

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Speaker 1: A rose I was like, its ridiculous rose a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago, insane. That would be a good pick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now that you made this kind of investment

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Speaker 1: in your quarterback Jalen Hurts, surrounding him with as many

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Speaker 1: new weapons as possible makes a lot of sense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: imagine another wide receiver added to the duol they already have.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to trade down. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: you're a team, I think a lot of teams are

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Speaker 1: looking to track.

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Speaker 8: I think that's the most likely scenarios that they're going

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Speaker 8: to move down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because when your team Mike Philly, where you have

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Speaker 2: so much talent all over that roster and there isn't

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Speaker 2: one like outstanding position where they really really need help.

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Speaker 2: You have the luxury of being able to pick later

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Speaker 2: in the first round still get great value because how

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Speaker 2: many talented players at just lesser valuable positions aren't selected

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Speaker 2: where they're taken in the second round, for example, and

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Speaker 2: they easily should have or could have been first rounders

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Speaker 2: if there was a run on that position and you

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Speaker 2: get to take best available. You know, so say they

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Speaker 2: trade down to I don't know who has it but

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Speaker 2: the twenty third pick, or they trade down and they're

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Speaker 2: picking close to last in the first round, You'll still

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Speaker 2: get a high value acquisition. And then increase the number

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Speaker 2: of times you get you know, your your your team

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Speaker 2: name called, and have an opportunity to bring in a

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Speaker 2: bunch of drafted rookies and see who can play.

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's the best method for teams

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Speaker 1: like like Philadelphia right now. I the team that I'm

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Speaker 1: very curious about is the Colts at number four. I

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Speaker 1: think I think the Texans will not take a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I know the Cardinals. Aren't the Colt's gonna take Stroud.

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna go in a direction? And if CJ.

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Speaker 1: Straw gets past four because Seattle's not I don't They're

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Speaker 1: not gonna take a quarterback. I don't think the Lions

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Speaker 1: are either. It'll be interesting to see how that all

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Speaker 1: works out. What are you gonna do on Draft Day?

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Speaker 1: What's your what's your game plan? Chicken wings? Chicken wings

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Speaker 1: sounds good. You better get that egg plant rolling as

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Speaker 1: quickly as possible. This is Fox Sports Sunday