Speaker 1: Kelsey slot left. He is phenomenal in the red zone.
Speaker 1: They go the other way, caught for a touchdown. Bucker
Speaker 1: hit a sixty two yard ron here last year. That
Speaker 1: was his career long Tommy Townsend to put it down
Speaker 1: and Bucker's check is good and goodbye Glenny. Second and
Speaker 1: ten three man rush, a floater caught and the ball
Speaker 1: is out and Kansas City has it. Trenton mcgruffy knocked.
Speaker 2: It out.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 4: It is nineteen to eight the Kansas City Chiefs over
Speaker 4: the Denver Broncos on Thursday Night football. A game a
Speaker 4: little bit low on fireworks, but in the end the
Speaker 4: home team gets what it wants at w and the
Speaker 4: rest of the world gets what they want another Sean
Speaker 4: Payton loss. Dan Hans is here in West London in
Speaker 4: a conference room, pretty bougie conference room, way beyond what
Speaker 4: we expect or deserve. That was Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. Boys,
Speaker 4: this is you know, and hello to everybody. We had
Speaker 4: our live show last night and then this game we
Speaker 4: know how the other half lives. Here kicks off after
Speaker 4: one am, and I think we all watched it and
Speaker 4: stayed up and now here we are the following morning
Speaker 4: talking about it. Chiefs take care business and we all
Speaker 4: feel totally insane right now.
Speaker 5: There is that feeling of adrenaline. I think after these
Speaker 5: live shows we're celebrating. It's it's a mad dash to
Speaker 5: get through our day at Sky Sports that we did,
Speaker 5: and then and then the live show and then watching
Speaker 5: the greatest player I've ever seen play football in just
Speaker 5: another game that happened in this season. But I actually
Speaker 5: enjoy I enjoyed being up like the Londoners enjoyed it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought, I mean we we had a chance
Speaker 6: to go out a little bit after the show and celebrate,
Speaker 6: which which is said Mark.
Speaker 4: But you're wearing like a peacock that's like over your shoulders. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like you're an aristocrat.
Speaker 6: I am having a scenario where it's like, if I
Speaker 6: take this off, I'm freezing, but when I wear it,
Speaker 6: I'm feeling sweaty.
Speaker 2: You asked for them to turn the ac it's a
Speaker 2: little high.
Speaker 7: I am not.
Speaker 6: I've not caught up physically. I think the way that
Speaker 6: some other people around here.
Speaker 4: You're part aristocrat, part vampire, and I'm here for it.
Speaker 4: I just didn't expect it.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: No, I appreciate you because you saved me from my ah.
Speaker 5: I like to watch the football game that was on
Speaker 5: analysis so far?
Speaker 7: Well, no, I mean I like it.
Speaker 6: We rolled right into the game, which was at least
Speaker 6: you know, it wasn't like to wake up to try
Speaker 6: to do it.
Speaker 7: I think I watched the whole thing.
Speaker 6: And I you said the no fireworks, Dan, I disagree,
Speaker 6: was just flushed with fireworks that I mean, it was
Speaker 6: just a thriller.
Speaker 4: It's I'm bummed out watching the Chiefs on offense this year.
Speaker 4: They just don't have Eric at home put it well. Actually,
Speaker 4: he did a nice job on NFL dot Com with
Speaker 4: his write up, as he does every week.
Speaker 3: He's a very good football writer.
Speaker 7: Eric.
Speaker 3: Maybe better powerings of me. I don't know, but I
Speaker 3: think about different.
Speaker 7: You bring a different, you know, sort of energy to it.
Speaker 4: Don't He's not, but he's great in his own way.
Speaker 4: But no, he does an excellent job with these ride ups,
Speaker 4: and he put it well that their their offense just
Speaker 4: is stuck in second gear and it's not an issue
Speaker 4: where they can't take care of business against the Broncos.
Speaker 4: But I think I think the stat he had this
Speaker 4: is only a sixth time ever. Patrick Mahomes let an
Speaker 4: offensive scored less than twenty points, which is first of
Speaker 4: all insane.
Speaker 3: Uh and second second and all second at all.
Speaker 4: Second of all, the way they get bogged down in
Speaker 4: the red zone, that interception that he threw, which was
Speaker 4: a terrible interception and wild there that you know, cost
Speaker 4: them three points. It's just like and Kelsey had a
Speaker 4: big game, Travis Kelsey who briefly exited in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 4: but he has a big yardage game with Taylor Swift
Speaker 4: once again in attendance. So you saw good things here,
Speaker 4: but you're still kind of missing that extra, like Eric said,
Speaker 4: gear that makes them the Chiefs, that turns a nineteen
Speaker 4: eight game, or really a one score game in the
Speaker 4: fourth quarter into what it should have been, which was
Speaker 4: a typical thirty five point Chiefs output.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I can point to some positives because
Speaker 6: on the on the preview show or when we preview
Speaker 6: this game, you were calling for Kelsey to re enter
Speaker 6: as like the main core thing. And I think we
Speaker 6: saw that Kelsey can still can still do it, and
Speaker 6: he's still a core part of this offense.
Speaker 2: Nine right, including a forty yarder.
Speaker 6: He was pretty pristine and like Isaiah Pichaeko. I think
Speaker 6: ran pretty well. Rashid Rice gives me a little bit
Speaker 6: of hope. I feel like there's this thing going on
Speaker 6: with the Chiefs though, where like when they went for
Speaker 6: that fake punt. I mean, they could have just taken commanderly,
Speaker 6: but that fake punt where they got a little cute
Speaker 6: and you know, the shift gears and go all up
Speaker 6: and it's like Noah Gray takes the ball and they
Speaker 6: try to convert and they don't un fourth and two,
Speaker 6: and I feel like I keep watching these Chiefs games
Speaker 6: where in these short yarded situations Andy Reid gets a
Speaker 6: little too smart for himself sometimes and they seem to
Speaker 6: stumble up, but they're better at like third and seven
Speaker 6: and third and eight.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 5: And the fact that in this one game alone, you
Speaker 5: saw Travis kelce throw a lateral a play after the
Speaker 5: game that Mahomes said, that's just Kelsey.
Speaker 2: It was not a play.
Speaker 5: That he practices that stuff in practice and that everyone laughs,
Speaker 5: but he practices enough that he actually does it in
Speaker 5: the game. And it's like the game is moving so
Speaker 5: slow for Travis Kelcey, he's he and Mahomes are kind
Speaker 5: of a football genius. I enjoy hearing I heard Tony
Speaker 5: Gonzaz and Ryan Fitzpatrick talk about it, like for people
Speaker 5: to understand this isn't normal that he is the routes
Speaker 5: and we know that that he's sort of like making
Speaker 5: up the routes that he sees like my normal route
Speaker 5: is not going to work on this place, so I'm
Speaker 5: just gonna change it in Mahomes is going to understand
Speaker 5: it and he's gonna know what I want to do.
Speaker 5: But there was a play in this game, and I'll
Speaker 5: get to your point, like that Read is throwing all
Speaker 5: these crazy things like the fake field goal, and then
Speaker 5: there was another Canarious Tony pass in the second half
Speaker 5: that didn't work at all. But it's partly because their
Speaker 5: offense isn't explosive and doesn't work, and because I think
Speaker 5: they're kind of trying different things out this early in
Speaker 5: the season, because they view this part of the season
Speaker 5: as a warm up. Their real season starts in January,
Speaker 5: and they want to win these games, but they do
Speaker 5: want to try different things as they go along. But
Speaker 5: Kelsey in this game was so brilliant because there was
Speaker 5: this one play that and Kirk Kirkstree pointed this out
Speaker 5: he missed a lot of stuff. I feel like he
Speaker 5: sometimes tunes out a little bit, but this was a
Speaker 5: nice job by him where Kelsey, in the middle of
Speaker 5: the route knows he's not going to be open, and
Speaker 5: he literally pointed to Mahomes to pass it to Edwards
Speaker 5: a laire and in a split second, Mahomes passes it
Speaker 5: to Edwards a lair and they pay twelve yards And
Speaker 5: I've never heard of I've never seen a play like
Speaker 5: that in my entire life that like that could be possible.
Speaker 5: So there is like a level they're operating out that's amazing.
Speaker 5: But that's the only thing that's keeping this offense, you know,
Speaker 5: quite good. They're a very different offense to your point.
Speaker 5: They're not explosive at all. They're very low in terms
Speaker 5: of explosive plays. They were first in the league by
Speaker 5: far last year and they're not even in the top
Speaker 5: ten this year in passing. But if you look at
Speaker 5: their DVOA their efficiency, they are still a top ten offense.
Speaker 5: They're like the seventh or eighth best offense in league.
Speaker 5: They're just doing it in a very methodical, kind of
Speaker 5: bittering way.
Speaker 6: We feel like last year they massed over the loss
Speaker 6: of Tyreek Hill, and we kind of celebrated the way
Speaker 6: they did that, but it's not that it's Tyreek Hill
Speaker 6: this year. You're not gonna have him, but they're missing
Speaker 6: someone that can provide that kind of explosiveness it get
Speaker 6: open downfield, stretch the defense, and it's just like they're
Speaker 6: a bit plotting and drives are breaking down.
Speaker 4: I think that we talked about it in the in
Speaker 4: the preview of this game, that Kelsey isn't at the
Speaker 4: same level or he wasn't in before last night that
Speaker 4: he was last year. And if he's healthy and they
Speaker 4: kind of find their chemistry and groove again, I think
Speaker 4: this could end up being just a bump in the road,
Speaker 4: which is still early in the season.
Speaker 2: And he left late again with the he kind of
Speaker 2: banged the baz ankle right at the very end.
Speaker 4: And the reason why I'm not panicking, there's kind of
Speaker 4: a couple of ways to look at it. But one
Speaker 4: of the reasons I'm not panicking is because last year,
Speaker 4: like you said, they did it and it's like without
Speaker 4: having Tyreek Hill, and it wasn't like they lost they
Speaker 4: lost Juju Smith Schusters.
Speaker 3: Just a guy.
Speaker 4: We'll get to that in a second Mikole Hardman, who
Speaker 4: can't even get on the field for the Jets.
Speaker 3: They have.
Speaker 4: They're they're just figuring things out. And I think one
Speaker 4: thing though, that seeing Andy Reid make some strange decisions
Speaker 4: shows maybe a little frustration and that they're trying to
Speaker 4: get things moving in a more explosive direction, like the
Speaker 4: Tony pass that you reference, Like, let's not take the
Speaker 4: ball out of Patrick Mahomes's hands ever, and if, okay,
Speaker 4: if you're gonna fake a field goal, you know, again,
Speaker 4: don't send Patrick Mahomes off the field and try to
Speaker 4: do a tush push or whatever.
Speaker 2: He doesn't sneak. They did.
Speaker 5: Don't call Patrick Mahomes so he doesn't sneak four years ago.
Speaker 7: We got injured when they four years ago.
Speaker 5: On Thursday Night football. It's just an interesting wrinkle that
Speaker 5: you kind of need to have your quarterback able to
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 4: Kicking two short field goals and then also faking a
Speaker 4: field goal and not getting it just shows you they're
Speaker 4: not where they need to be.
Speaker 3: But they have time to work on it.
Speaker 4: And guess what, for all their struggles quote unquote on offense,
Speaker 4: like you said, they're still top ten and they're five
Speaker 4: and one, So they're just doing what a true Super
Speaker 4: Bowl contender does.
Speaker 3: They win as they figure things out and go ahead.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, I mean, it is the best.
Speaker 5: I think the biggest development is on paper, it's the
Speaker 5: best defense of the Read era. And they've had some
Speaker 5: okay defense defense, a good defense that finished in the
Speaker 5: top ten in points allowed. But to me, that's why
Speaker 5: this team is scary because I think they're winning with
Speaker 5: defense and somewhat there they're running game and efficient like
Speaker 5: that is a big different. Drew Tranquill was fantastic in
Speaker 5: this game. Nick Bolton had a great interception. Their secondaries
Speaker 5: been great. Chris Jones is wrecking shop. They're playing him
Speaker 5: on the edge quite a bit. Just at each level,
Speaker 5: this is a legit top ten defense week after week,
Speaker 5: and then you think, Okay, Patrick Mahomes with the best
Speaker 5: defense Andy Reid's had, and that's a long stretch if
Speaker 5: you go back to the Alex Smith days. I really
Speaker 5: think this is it, and so they don't need to
Speaker 5: be as good an offense. They could maybe win in
Speaker 5: a different way this year.
Speaker 4: So on the Denver side of things, it's and yeah,
Speaker 4: what you just said in forums on some level. The
Speaker 4: issues they had yesterday is that Casey's defense is better
Speaker 4: than it's been but and I hate it. Did It
Speaker 4: shouldn't bothering because who caress. You know, he's a Jets
Speaker 4: fan too, so I don't have an issue with Greenberg,
Speaker 4: but like you know, he's way misinformed and says that
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson's worse than ever this season going into this game,
Speaker 4: and that couldn't be further from the truth. But then
Speaker 4: this game he actually I think was part of the
Speaker 4: problem for the Broncos for the first time this year.
Speaker 4: He played poorly once again, like what we saw against
Speaker 4: the Jets, mark especially late in that game, just the
Speaker 4: inability to feel the pass rush and you know, two
Speaker 4: big turnovers, and in general this reminded me a little
Speaker 4: bit of some of what we were seeing last year
Speaker 4: under Hackett.
Speaker 6: I totally agree, and I mean one of the picks
Speaker 6: came off a tipped pass. He had three tipped passes
Speaker 6: in this game. Looked relatively lost to me. I mean,
Speaker 6: it's just the he has been better, and I think
Speaker 6: the offense in general has been obviously more organized than
Speaker 6: a year ago, but they produced ninety five passing yards
Speaker 6: last night, and like if the Chiefs slack exploded an
Speaker 6: explosive elopment, the Bronco is like they have had a
Speaker 6: success going up and down the field in other games,
Speaker 6: but they couldn't do it against the Chiefs last night.
Speaker 6: And I mean there is the one. There's something going
Speaker 6: on with this team where I feel it's almost like
Speaker 6: Sean Payton to me, like from a spiritual angle, like
Speaker 6: really kind of cursed the energy around this team with
Speaker 6: his tirade against Nathaniel Hackett because it uncharacteristic of a
Speaker 6: Sean Payton offense. There are things happening that are like,
Speaker 6: wait a minute, this is looking like elements of last
Speaker 6: year's team. At times when you're Sean Payton, you call
Speaker 6: a timeout, right Russell with twenty eight seconds to go
Speaker 6: before the half, Russell Wilson gets sacked. Then Sean Payton
Speaker 6: calls another timeout with twenty two seconds, they have to
Speaker 6: punt the ball. The punk goes twenty seven yards, Mahomes
Speaker 6: has the ball back on his side of the field,
Speaker 6: six yard pass, a thirteen yard scramble, and then right
Speaker 6: before halftime you kick sixty yard field, go top, go
Speaker 6: up thirteen. Nothing that's on Sean Payton. In his defense,
Speaker 6: he owned up to that, which he read, Yeah he did.
Speaker 6: He said, I miscounted the downs and I gave them
Speaker 6: a time out that they should have been taking, which
Speaker 6: helped all those But one of the biggest issues with
Speaker 6: Nathaniel Hackett last year was time management. Was understanding where
Speaker 6: you were on the field, was understanding the down situation.
Speaker 6: And you don't expect that from Sean Payton, but it
Speaker 6: last night. I mean, going up thirteen nothing right before half.
Speaker 6: That's Andy Reid thinking like, wow, we just got a gift,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 4: One of the biggest crowd pops in our live show
Speaker 4: last night, and thank you everybody that came to the
Speaker 4: show theater.
Speaker 3: It was a great time had by all.
Speaker 4: One of the biggest pops of the night was I
Speaker 4: don't even remember what the context was, but Sean Payton.
Speaker 4: I think I said something about Sean Payton and his struggles,
Speaker 4: and the place exploded and cheers like, yeah, everyone is
Speaker 4: seeming to enjoy this guy's humble pie that he's got
Speaker 4: eight minutes.
Speaker 6: So the show tick they edited from our you know,
Speaker 6: online copy because.
Speaker 5: Of it even got got up yet We'll see but
Speaker 5: uh yeah, don't say too much.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: I might have to delete you, but.
Speaker 6: You come to our lives, you come to our live show,
Speaker 6: you get information and special guests unvarnished.
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean he could own up to it, but
Speaker 5: that's that was an all time time out blunder. As
Speaker 5: Johnny Clock management over here, I was going crazy that
Speaker 5: Herb Street and Al Michaels didn't even mention it, didn't
Speaker 5: even mention it. And then and then I said something
Speaker 5: out about it, and all the Ronco stands this is
Speaker 5: a great example of what you know, A small segment
Speaker 5: of every fan base is like, it's not unique to
Speaker 5: Broncos fans.
Speaker 2: They all were like, oh, actually it was the broadcast mistake.
Speaker 2: They actually said it was the broadcast mistake.
Speaker 5: It wasn't Peyton that made it, because someone someone on
Speaker 5: Twitter somewhere said that it was actually, like, no, our
Speaker 5: coach couldn't actually be that big of a dumb ass.
Speaker 5: They actually created and concocted some other reason. And they
Speaker 5: were all vociferous about.
Speaker 2: No, actually you're wrong. You don't understand that was the mistake.
Speaker 5: And then after the game, Peyton's like, no, I had
Speaker 5: a complete brain fart. I like Tom Brady got flamed
Speaker 5: for days fort for not knowing what down it was.
Speaker 5: And he's the quarterback, that's the head coach. You could say,
Speaker 5: at least he owned up doing that's great. I actually
Speaker 5: can't remember a coach ever losing track of downs and
Speaker 5: literally stopping the half. He can say whatever he wants about. Oh,
Speaker 5: the Chiefs would have taken the time out there.
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 5: Who knows. He might have just the knowing Andy raid.
Speaker 5: He might have just gotten a halftime. Sometimes he lets
Speaker 5: that happen. He just gave him three points. Nice job
Speaker 5: by Harrison Bucker, though they might not have win this game.
Speaker 5: A sixty yard er and a fifty plus to put a.
Speaker 4: Four field score, and good job calling that out. And
Speaker 4: again I love al Michaels, he's the goat, he's a legend.
Speaker 4: But you know the booth that's terrible. That's as bad
Speaker 4: as Peyton's mistake is not calling that out when you're
Speaker 4: doing the national telecast.
Speaker 5: Well, how about in the fourth quarter when Courtland Sutton
Speaker 5: made one of the catches of the year, I'd say,
Speaker 5: top five catch this year, and it seemed barely aware
Speaker 5: that it even happened. I mean, Herbstreet didn't, didn't barely
Speaker 5: made a comment about it that it was a great catch,
Speaker 5: and certainly they'd never brought up that it was like
Speaker 5: suddenly a two score game. They they sort of were
Speaker 5: acting like one score game, right, a one score game. Rather,
Speaker 5: they were sort of acting like, wow, that was a
Speaker 5: great that was a good play. This is you know,
Speaker 5: it's good that they're getting something going late.
Speaker 3: In the game.
Speaker 5: And then after they got the two point, right, it
Speaker 5: didn't seem to like understand like, actually, this is this
Speaker 5: is a game here for a second.
Speaker 6: That's an It feels like if you were to pick
Speaker 6: two people that need to be plugged in no whether
Speaker 6: or not you like the matchup.
Speaker 2: Or they were bored by it.
Speaker 7: They were getting bored here.
Speaker 3: But there's also people in their ear there should be
Speaker 3: they need help, as I mean, come on, anyway.
Speaker 5: Jason's thinking, those are some of our We've got Jason
Speaker 5: clembing here hoping to produce like is.
Speaker 4: There some of our former coworkers, like OL's my neighbor
Speaker 4: in Malibu.
Speaker 3: I can't say anything.
Speaker 2: Come on, you can't even get kind of.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I love it.
Speaker 5: I'm your Russell Wilson point though, Yeah, that's two straight
Speaker 5: games because he's stunk in the Jets game two overall
Speaker 5: he was.
Speaker 2: Under dress and there's only been there's only been. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he was bad.
Speaker 5: He had two or three turnover where I think he
Speaker 5: had three turnover worthy plays and like no particularly good
Speaker 5: plays in the Jets.
Speaker 2: Game, and this game was a fiasco.
Speaker 4: Was even worse the fourth down early that is that
Speaker 4: was very twenty twenty two Broncos where it was just
Speaker 4: like I got I was down with the play, I
Speaker 4: was down with the decision to go for it because
Speaker 4: against the Chiefs and you have the worst defense in
Speaker 4: the league. He's flushed out to the right and he
Speaker 4: just continues to look and not see anything that just
Speaker 4: goes out of bounce, Like you don't see that that
Speaker 4: typically unless a quarterback is really just not playing well
Speaker 4: and seeing the field.
Speaker 6: One thing, it's like there is this drumbeat of Peyton
Speaker 6: openly you know, critiquing Russell Wilson, a little bit of
Speaker 6: blame here and there after the game too, right, and
Speaker 6: so it's that's been going on all along.
Speaker 7: I don't like that situation. I mean, you didn't get
Speaker 7: it happening.
Speaker 6: I think I think you're gonna move Russell Wilson's probably
Speaker 6: gonna be moved out of the starting spot. I think
Speaker 6: this is what I This is the closest team I
Speaker 6: can see. It's just sort of an organic tank quietly
Speaker 6: because you move Randy Gregory. I'm not saying Frank Clark's
Speaker 6: a difference maker, but he's out the door at some point, right.
Speaker 6: But I mean they're moving these guys that they brought
Speaker 6: on to They spent a lot of money in free agency.
Speaker 6: It's not going well. Jerry Judy has been on the
Speaker 6: trade whisper block.
Speaker 3: While we'll get to Jerry Judy.
Speaker 6: The thing is, like the Broncos have they they're an
Speaker 6: outlier to have, like the number one pick, and Sean
Speaker 6: Payton winds up with the number one quarterback and then
Speaker 6: this thing looks like a dream and you'll start over.
Speaker 7: But I'm not.
Speaker 6: I just don't love what Sean Payton's doing with the
Speaker 6: pieces he has, right.
Speaker 3: They Yes, they do, Okay, they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Entering that touchdown drive where the Chiefs just kept giving
Speaker 5: the Broncos the ball back over and over and over,
Speaker 5: and eventually the Broncos finally got something done. Russell Wilson
Speaker 5: midway through the fourth was nine for fourteen for fifty
Speaker 5: seven yards, in two touchdowns and in some brutal sacks.
Speaker 5: So when Broncos fans were tweeting out passer rating earlier
Speaker 5: this week and comparing him to Patrick Mahomes that like
Speaker 5: he had a higher passer rating, like passer rating does
Speaker 5: not count the million terrible sacks Russell Wilson has taken
Speaker 5: this year and in this game, and that was that
Speaker 5: first half was as bad as any half or even
Speaker 5: three quarters of play that he had at any point.
Speaker 5: I don't It was one of the worst quarterback games
Speaker 5: I've seen this year from any quarterback, So like a
Speaker 5: top level quarterback isn't gonna have that sort of game.
Speaker 7: Now, they were running the ball pretty well too, I don't.
Speaker 4: I think the ironically, one of the criticisms from Peyton
Speaker 4: and that infamous USA Today article that more hands are
Speaker 4: dirty than just Russell Wilson's. I don't think that was
Speaker 4: an inspired play calling game either. I think they had
Speaker 4: like less than five throws ten yards downfield or they
Speaker 4: never tested the defense on any level. And I'm so
Speaker 4: sick of hearing about Jerry Judy and Courtland Sutton on
Speaker 4: the trade block because these guys don't make plays. I
Speaker 4: know Sutton had to play late in the game, but
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, I don't know. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: it's not Russell Wilson's fault, but now we're going to
Speaker 4: start piling on Wilson where it's like, I feel like
Speaker 4: he's this whole Denver it turned to his career is
Speaker 4: a massive fiasco with Hackett in year one and now
Speaker 4: Peyton playing the fool in year two.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: There was this one little thing that went out on
Speaker 6: Twitter too, and I you know, I think this happens
Speaker 6: to coaches some times. So it's like, I'm not trying
Speaker 6: to just pile on Peyton again. But he got caught
Speaker 6: on television with the screen cap of him holding up
Speaker 6: the play call sheet and it basically shows every one
Speaker 6: of Denver's like two minute plays.
Speaker 5: Good job by our friend of the podcast, Josh Norris
Speaker 5: was the one who.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just it's like, you know, even with
Speaker 6: that is that attention to detail, you gotta you can't
Speaker 6: have that sound.
Speaker 5: Well, that's that one's I think that I know, But like,
Speaker 5: but it's like he's getting older and he has to
Speaker 5: write bigger.
Speaker 3: Bugs that like you wear glasses on our I'm not
Speaker 3: going to count that is.
Speaker 6: You know what, I don't put like my diary up
Speaker 6: on camera for everyone to see it.
Speaker 3: You have a diary? No, but if I.
Speaker 7: Did, or what some personal information you know is a
Speaker 7: state secret for you.
Speaker 3: We got to move on. We're bloviating again.
Speaker 2: The losers interesting, sure, sure was.
Speaker 4: It was so interesting, Uh, losers of the game, Peyton
Speaker 4: Russ Mahomes, Fantasy Owners and Swifties of Minneapolis. Because now
Speaker 4: there's been four games they got, this happened, this relationship
Speaker 4: became public, and the only game she didn't go to
Speaker 4: was the Vikings.
Speaker 5: Well, I think home games makes sense, kNs Didy although
Speaker 5: she was in l A playing I'm analyzing this now
Speaker 5: I am, and then the other one's in New York.
Speaker 5: So it's like she's got to go to New York
Speaker 5: our six podcast game.
Speaker 6: But Greg, but the people, all those all those Swifties
Speaker 6: that went and bought Swifty Vikings jerseys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like, no matter, no matter the logic behind it.
Speaker 4: I think of that situation that crying, well she wasn't crying,
Speaker 4: but long yeah, she was wearing a number eighty nine
Speaker 4: Swift jersey the Vikings and she's the only one that
Speaker 4: didn't have the woman in the building.
Speaker 2: Well, how about good job, good job by by Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5: There she was, you know by l A correspondent Emica
Speaker 5: Watson Abbe Slash. Rosenthal told me Taylor Swift was at
Speaker 5: the Grove there for her premiere just the day before.
Speaker 5: So she she's in LA the night before she gets
Speaker 5: to Kansas City.
Speaker 3: Let's you call good girlfriend work.
Speaker 2: And then Amazon, you know, I noticed.
Speaker 5: I think they actually made a specific point to emphasize
Speaker 5: Taylor Swift less than previously. I think they were like,
Speaker 5: this is it's gone a little too far, and we're
Speaker 5: going to show her last.
Speaker 4: We don't need to. We're gonna have an awesome offensive performance.
Speaker 4: And Patrick Mahomes and a totally plugged in booth. Let's
Speaker 4: get to the NFL network side of things. Fascinating discourse.
Speaker 4: Steve Smith, who we love Steve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know why.
Speaker 4: Steve Smith is both good on television and in general
Speaker 4: a well like guy behind the scenes for NFL media.
Speaker 3: Is that guy keeps it real.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a swagger to him, He's got a
Speaker 4: little bit of a chip on his shoulder, always has
Speaker 4: it helped make him a Hall of Fame level receiver,
Speaker 4: and there was a how to set this up? Jerry Judy,
Speaker 4: former first round pick. Do I have to tee it up?
Speaker 4: Or is it all basically explained? He explained heat between
Speaker 4: Judy and Steve Smith playing out on live television.
Speaker 3: Rett.
Speaker 8: One of the things that I really enjoyed working with
Speaker 8: Steve Smith is the way that I can see these
Speaker 8: players react to him.
Speaker 3: We just had it.
Speaker 8: Thirty seconds ago. Sky Moore, Chiefs wide receivers coming by, comes.
Speaker 3: To say hello to Steve.
Speaker 8: He spends time time with them before the game, telling
Speaker 8: what he likes about their game, giving him a little
Speaker 8: pointers how they could be better, and these guys grew
Speaker 8: up watching him, so they soak it up. However, a
Speaker 8: short while ago, Broncos wide receiver Jerry Judy was walking
Speaker 8: by and Steve called out to him.
Speaker 3: He got a different reaction.
Speaker 9: I called out to him because on my podcast cut
Speaker 9: to it, I just talked about guys that maybe have
Speaker 9: not showed up in a way or in the manner,
Speaker 9: and so they weren't. That I've used to describe him
Speaker 9: in the past was a jag. Just they got just
Speaker 9: the guy and so when I saw him he's playing well,
Speaker 9: I wanted to say to him face to face, like, hey,
Speaker 9: I know I said some things in the past I
Speaker 9: probably shouldn't have, and I'm sorry. That's what I wanted
Speaker 9: to say to him. His response, Mike, Robb and Bucky
Speaker 9: was ninja ninja. Yes, I'm using the word ninja's I'm
Speaker 9: just using the word ninja.
Speaker 3: I don't mess with you.
Speaker 9: And it was it was a curse word, and so
Speaker 9: I was like, all right, and then he repeat, so
Speaker 9: I'll say it again. I'm sorry that I said you
Speaker 9: were a jack, just a guy who's an average wide
Speaker 9: receiver they use a first round.
Speaker 3: Pick on that isn't doing anything.
Speaker 9: I hope today that you actually show up in a
Speaker 9: way that you haven't showed up in the last couple
Speaker 9: of years since they drafted.
Speaker 3: Is this all happening right now? It is live Tellers.
Speaker 6: I also say one thing, you have to go watch
Speaker 6: this clip because Mike Garrifolo, who's standing right next to him,
Speaker 6: because they're talking to the studio too. The look the
Speaker 6: looks on Mike Grifolo's face as this story unfolds is precious.
Speaker 7: And we love Mike too.
Speaker 4: I would I would like liking it to when Kanye
Speaker 4: went on as Katrina Rant with Mike Myers next to it.
Speaker 3: It's great, okay, now go ahead climbing.
Speaker 9: So if you ever got a problem with AJN eighty nine,
Speaker 9: I'm sorry for saying that you're an average wide receiver
Speaker 9: that they eventually will move on.
Speaker 3: And when teams called me.
Speaker 9: And asking should they trade for you, I will say no,
Speaker 9: don't trade for Jerry Judy because he's mentally unable to
Speaker 9: handle constructive criticism from people who watch. Specifically, can he
Speaker 9: be a wide receiver? He could be a wide receiver.
Speaker 9: He's a Tier three. Go back into the studio. I'm
Speaker 9: done now, thank you.
Speaker 6: He's pulling his microphone off and just like basically leaving set.
Speaker 2: At that point, he's and he was furious.
Speaker 5: And it's crazy to see that side because we love
Speaker 5: seeing that side of Steve Smith as a player. We
Speaker 5: spent a lot of time talking about that side of
Speaker 5: Steveson as a player. Because I saw I say Chris's
Speaker 5: favorite NFL player, I would say the history of our podcast,
Speaker 5: Tyron Matthew would be the other one.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: But he loved he loved that fire. And now we're
Speaker 5: getting as a coworker. And it's so interesting to see
Speaker 5: because we've gotten to know Steve a little bit, you know,
Speaker 5: and he's such a nice person to anyone that is
Speaker 5: nice to him and respects him.
Speaker 2: But if you cross him and I would not want to.
Speaker 3: And this is one of the gifts for Steve.
Speaker 4: And really certain people, like another person says what they're
Speaker 4: saying there comes off as.
Speaker 3: Petty and why are you getting making yourself the story?
Speaker 3: But the way Steve.
Speaker 4: Does it here, I mean everyone's kind of like on
Speaker 4: the edge of their seats and just enjoying the theater.
Speaker 3: Later, I think postgame.
Speaker 5: Later in the pregame, and I think Judy actually heard
Speaker 5: just based on that, he came back over and started
Speaker 5: yelling towards the NFL network sideline. James Palmer caught a
Speaker 5: little bit of that. And then even later in the pregame,
Speaker 5: Steve Smith talk about here we go.
Speaker 7: We had some company on that one.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: I don't know if Russ saw Jerry Judy on that.
Speaker 3: But did you see him? Listen?
Speaker 9: This is a time for me where when I used
Speaker 9: to play, I would engage and I love that.
Speaker 3: Or right now, I'm forty.
Speaker 9: Four years old, I don't need to have this drama,
Speaker 9: and I also don't need to have any problems on
Speaker 9: the sideline for me doing something that will jeopardize not.
Speaker 3: Just me but him.
Speaker 9: And I'll be honest and I have to say it
Speaker 9: just like this one of the biggest problems we have
Speaker 9: in media, especially as a young black man and sometimes
Speaker 9: black on black crime. I'm not gonna participate in that.
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna engage where the national media can see
Speaker 9: two young African American men acting like we ain't got
Speaker 9: no sense.
Speaker 3: He didn't like what I said, That's fine. I wanted
Speaker 3: to talk to him. He didn't like it, so would
Speaker 3: move on.
Speaker 9: But I'm one, I'm not gonna lose my job, and two,
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna disrespect my family by showing that have
Speaker 9: not matured and handle my business the way I should
Speaker 9: handle my business. We gotta fight with Kestler London. We
Speaker 9: got things to do. We ain't got time to be
Speaker 9: watching a dude do nothing back from the job.
Speaker 7: You know what I love HI about that?
Speaker 3: It is fun.
Speaker 7: There is an element of humor too.
Speaker 6: But like he is, he's he's got fire inside of him,
Speaker 6: He's got verbal fire, and like you know at the
Speaker 6: Super Bowl when we were in our hotel, he stayed
Speaker 6: across from me, and you'd be in your room and
Speaker 6: you could hear when he's coming in and out of
Speaker 6: his room. He had some friends and over, and it's
Speaker 6: like Steve Smith is just like this complete and total original.
Speaker 6: But I think, honestly like he did try to bring
Speaker 6: peace to that situation. And he can say all that
Speaker 6: because he's Steve Smith, because he was this player that
Speaker 6: was a different type of wide receiver than we've seen,
Speaker 6: and you got other players coming up and respecting him,
Speaker 6: and it's like he's trying to make peace with Jerry Judy.
Speaker 7: I think Jerry Judy comes out looking like.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 7: I do man like Jerry Judy.
Speaker 5: But I think I had the perfect response that his was.
Speaker 5: The first response was like I love that. This is
Speaker 5: like we're having a therapy session live on air. And
Speaker 5: that was what that was, is like a man, we've
Speaker 5: all gotten older and you you still make the same
Speaker 5: dumb mistakes and have the same emotional outbursts sometimes or
Speaker 5: do things that when you were younger, but then you
Speaker 5: calm down a little bit and you realize. And Steve Smith,
Speaker 5: that's why he brought up his family, respect his family,
Speaker 5: like he doesn't need to be out here doing things
Speaker 5: that could jeopardize his job and his family, and he
Speaker 5: doesn't need to be having this. So he can be
Speaker 5: as fiery as you are in the moment, but then
Speaker 5: afterwards he can recognize like, Okay, maybe I shouldn't have
Speaker 5: done that.
Speaker 2: I need to comment Smith.
Speaker 5: And then but at the very end of that, he
Speaker 5: point out, you're not gonna do anything in this game.
Speaker 7: I know because he can't. He's got that fire and
Speaker 7: he can't contain it.
Speaker 6: I love it, but I and Jerry Judy is young
Speaker 6: and like that, you know a little bit of it,
Speaker 6: just that it's not.
Speaker 7: A great look for Jerry Judy.
Speaker 3: I think that's unfair to attack Judy. The only thing Judy,
Speaker 3: I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 7: It's not a it's not a great look.
Speaker 3: He's not a great look. What did he do?
Speaker 2: Well? He got flamed that he didn't do anything.
Speaker 3: Here's what happened. Here's what happened.
Speaker 7: He used a certain language that Steve Smith.
Speaker 3: Here's what happened.
Speaker 4: Steve Smith came went on his podcast and really like
Speaker 4: denigrated him as a player. And then when Steve approached
Speaker 4: him on the field, he said, I don't want to
Speaker 4: deal with you.
Speaker 3: I don't want to that's all he literally all.
Speaker 2: He did see.
Speaker 5: And that's why Steve essentially that was an apology at
Speaker 5: the end. He was saying like, look, he didn't want
Speaker 5: to hear me. That's fine, we move on that. That's
Speaker 5: what he was saying there. He was I know, he
Speaker 5: didn't say I'm sorry, but he was saying like I
Speaker 5: should have had my head cooler too. We don't need
Speaker 5: to be doing this and fighting. And I know it
Speaker 5: was entertaining.
Speaker 4: I felt, I feel, I love the entertainment value from Steve,
Speaker 4: but you can't. I did feel for Judy a little
Speaker 4: bit that he didn't have a microphone and couldn't really
Speaker 4: kind of go back.
Speaker 3: But I wonder. I'm sure he was asked after the game,
Speaker 3: and that's fair.
Speaker 6: I mean, I just I guess I'm knowing Steve a
Speaker 6: little bit, like I kind of think he's just super
Speaker 6: genuine and he tried to make peace.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's like you just try.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 5: Maybe we can get him on the sideline if we
Speaker 5: see him on Sunday. He's apparently heading to London.
Speaker 4: Apparently and I also like Greg as men of a
Speaker 4: certain age. He referred to himself as a young man.
Speaker 4: So he's forty four.
Speaker 2: That is a good feeling.
Speaker 3: That's right now. It's good for he does all right,
Speaker 3: good stuff.
Speaker 4: Any other thoughts takeaways from the live show, And again,
Speaker 4: thank you to everybody for coming out. It was a
Speaker 4: great time and we don't take it for granted. And
Speaker 4: you know, we talked about Chris at the end of
Speaker 4: the show, and we also you know, talked about a
Speaker 4: little bit right before we went on that sometimes West
Speaker 4: feels far away, sometimes he feels close like those live
Speaker 4: shows for whatever reason, it's kind of both at the
Speaker 4: same time. It's just a little bit it's heavy where
Speaker 4: it feels like he's kind of with us, but of
Speaker 4: course he's not. So, but so anything that kind of
Speaker 4: makes you think of Chris, and I feel like for
Speaker 4: some reason those live shows, because we're not doing those
Speaker 4: live shows without the West's contributions all those years to
Speaker 4: what we've built here.
Speaker 3: So but thank you to everybody for coming out. That
Speaker 3: was a lot of fun.
Speaker 7: I'm with you.
Speaker 6: I think like before those shows happen, we're back there
Speaker 6: in the green room and you're kind of like pacing
Speaker 6: around and kind of getting your final notes together. And
Speaker 6: I have so many memories of kind of Wes in
Speaker 6: those moments. And there was one time when he had
Speaker 6: a couple of beers before the show and we got
Speaker 6: a fiery West and was.
Speaker 7: I think it was our first live show.
Speaker 6: But we always always as a group, you know, for
Speaker 6: all our like ups and downs and stuff, and that
Speaker 6: I think sometimes our podcast was overlooked by our company
Speaker 6: frankly for a long period of time, and like to
Speaker 6: go do the live show where certain people and our
Speaker 6: company didn't even know we were doing it, it's like
Speaker 6: you're still something is fighting up against the rest of
Speaker 6: the world.
Speaker 2: Of that thing that continues it does.
Speaker 6: But Wes West was always sort of like defined in
Speaker 6: that world, and we would always do kind of a
Speaker 6: group hug before we did it. We did it last night,
Speaker 6: and like that there's someone missing there. There will always
Speaker 6: be someone missing. But his memory, like I think, just
Speaker 6: vibrates through that room because so many of the people
Speaker 6: there listen to it still because of Wes, and because
Speaker 6: Wes still is a part of our.
Speaker 5: Show study today I talked to a few people afterwards who,
Speaker 5: like so many of our listeners say how they had
Speaker 5: these personal interactions on Instagram and everything with Wes and
Speaker 5: and how keysh. You know, I mentioned this in the show.
Speaker 5: I don't know if this is gonna make the Sessler cut.
Speaker 5: At some point we will release maybe when we're older
Speaker 5: and no longer working for the NFL, will release the
Speaker 5: Sessler cut of this live show. But we're still working
Speaker 5: on the edit that's gonna be cut down. And I
Speaker 5: think the Q and A just it's not gonna play
Speaker 5: as well. So it was part of the Q and
Speaker 5: A that that Keish, you know. She mentioned how much
Speaker 5: that first trip to London meant so much to him
Speaker 5: because he had just gotten over his first bat with
Speaker 5: cancer and it made him realize, like I've done, like
Speaker 5: we've done something pretty cool in a way that's connected
Speaker 5: with people that I had no idea, Like this thing
Speaker 5: I did with my life with this sport that I love,
Speaker 5: like this is badass. And he came home from that
Speaker 5: trip and that that show especially Flying and we do too.
Speaker 5: I love I love the aftermath of those shows, like
Speaker 5: it's it's a great feeling that that all the listeners
Speaker 5: give to us that when we get to do it
Speaker 5: so very grateful.
Speaker 4: Yes, so again thanks to everybody, and we will once
Speaker 4: we can get it's it's really about like libel lawsuits,
Speaker 4: certain comments that need to come out before it goes live.
Speaker 4: But that's all the more reason next time we do
Speaker 4: a live show to be there in person, because it's unvarnished.
Speaker 3: Cessler.
Speaker 6: I thought I gave you know, deep reporting information factors.
Speaker 3: But what in Transylvania like this time of year?
Speaker 7: Just watched Renfield actually up in the room.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, nice, very nice.
Speaker 7: Nicholas Cage fantastic in it.
Speaker 5: Let's say that for then I will watch basically Eddie
Speaker 5: Nicholas Cage movie.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, good stuff.
Speaker 4: Next time you hear from us, well, the live show
Speaker 4: we believe will get up at some point.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not. That'll be a surprise to you.
Speaker 5: Mark wanted to make one, sorry, a big announcement on
Speaker 5: his lock change.
Speaker 6: I just remember, well that's right, Well no, because you know,
Speaker 6: first of all, I don't need this. I wake up
Speaker 6: and like I barely check x anymore slash Twitter. But
Speaker 6: I'm getting destroyed by people saying, like what, you have
Speaker 6: no guts for taking the niners over there. It was
Speaker 6: in the lock zone and they're like, oh, you have
Speaker 6: to forget the lock zone. You guys need to like
Speaker 6: make it three or four point. Yeah, I don't care
Speaker 6: what anyone says. I like it moved to ten, and
Speaker 6: we said all along, if it got out of control,
Speaker 6: then we change it.
Speaker 7: I'm moving my lock to the Lions.
Speaker 5: Like three and a half has been ordered to be out.
Speaker 5: So wow, ten is a big number, but it is
Speaker 5: going to be PJ. Walker, so I guess.
Speaker 4: And I was already on the record if Watson is
Speaker 4: scratched from the lineup, and that is troubling that he's
Speaker 4: out still potentially after the bye week, I was moving
Speaker 4: in locking in with the Cincinnati Zoo for the Bengals
Speaker 4: this weekend. So I will move there unless Watson's on
Speaker 4: the field, and in that case I would stand on
Speaker 4: the Niners.
Speaker 3: But it's not looking that way.
Speaker 4: According to a report of someone that is in the past,
Speaker 4: especially during all the drama, was very plugged in and
Speaker 4: on board with the Deshaun Watson express. So yes, that
Speaker 4: reporter was not be playing all right, there you go,
Speaker 4: And you know what, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't check. I don't care what you say about
Speaker 3: my locks.
Speaker 6: It's like we know, any of us know what we're
Speaker 6: doing here among our going little tribing groups.
Speaker 3: So all right, that's it, Thank you to Kleinman.
Speaker 4: And does does Al ever swing by a Brentwood like
Speaker 4: in Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: You ever do a little stopover or anything like that? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, not eating vegetables there though.
Speaker 4: Is Bwood one of those places like when the sun
Speaker 4: goes down, it's time to lock the doors and shut
Speaker 4: things down for the people that don't know California.
Speaker 6: Yeah, alright, something went on there back in nineteen nine.
Speaker 4: Tell him I miss him on Sunday football. Yes, And
Speaker 4: I'm sure Al has stories about that particular evening in
Speaker 4: June and ninety four. All right, that's it. Dan hands
Speaker 4: a signing off for Quiet Store on the old Boss
Speaker 4: Climb Dog because he's non intredably after dark till Sunday
Speaker 4: heat the call