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Speaker 2: are you bucket? What a day yesterday? What a day?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what a great day. What a great college football.

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Speaker 4: That's why everyone who's a college football fan tunes in

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Speaker 4: great Day.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, though, I watched the Indiana game,

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Speaker 2: and the first thing that came to mind after they

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Speaker 2: beat Ohio State thirteen ten, I'm thinking of Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti interviewed for the University of Cincinnati football coaching

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Speaker 2: position back in twenty twenty two after Luke Fickle left

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Speaker 2: to go to Wisconsin and the athletic threat the University

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Speaker 2: of Cincinnati. John Cunningham was not interested because quote he

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Speaker 2: lacked power for experience and highed Scott Siderfield. Instead. Take that,

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Speaker 2: John Cunningham, take what do you think John Cunningham was

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Speaker 2: thinking when he's watching Indiana play all season long and

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Speaker 2: beating up on Ohio State yesterday thirteen ten, unbelievable experience.

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Speaker 2: This guy's a coach. You could coach pee wee high school, junior,

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Speaker 2: high school, you know, college, If you got it in

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Speaker 2: you you're a coach.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I understand that, Like I can understand

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Speaker 4: some of the skepticism. Even though Kirk Signetti's long track

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Speaker 4: record of success. There is a jump from James Madison

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Speaker 4: to Indiana. When you're talking about Indiana team that had

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Speaker 4: never wanted I mean, had oney, big tenses, whatever, sixty seven,

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Speaker 4: a team that doesn't have a lot of success. I

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Speaker 4: thought it was the graphic on Fox last night's second

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Speaker 4: most losses in FBS history. I can understand why you

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Speaker 4: might be skeptical on taking someone like that. However, when

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Speaker 4: you go back and you deep diaper, dig a little

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Speaker 4: deeper into his pass, you see the Nick Saban connection,

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Speaker 4: you see other things that he learned along the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: like he's having a success that I don't think anyone

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Speaker 4: can envision, but good for him. Sometimes people can't see

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Speaker 4: your vision before they have before it happens.

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Speaker 2: All right, Indiana, right now, it's thirteen in oh Ohio.

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Speaker 2: State goes to twelve and one, the first loss of

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Speaker 2: the year, the first outright title for all Indiana since

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Speaker 2: nineteen forty five. So the question I have before we

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Speaker 2: little bit for Nando Mendoza, we looked at the Heisman

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Speaker 2: Trophy as a quarterback trophy, and obviously is Fernando going

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Speaker 2: to win the Heisman from that game yesterday, Is he

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Speaker 2: the Heisman winner?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, He's gonna win the Heidsman because I think this

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Speaker 4: is a year where no one has really distinguished themselves.

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Speaker 4: I think the story in terms of Indiana's rise to prominence.

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Speaker 4: I think his story in terms of like how he's

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Speaker 3: With the story. I think he's going to win it.

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Speaker 4: I think what's gonna be interesting is not only him

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Speaker 4: winning the Heisman, but the conversation about him potentially being

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be a fascinating one to.

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Speaker 2: Me, unbelieve. Now, now, the buck guys had a chance

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I'm pretty sure something that he makes routinely.

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Speaker 4: and he just was unable to get it done. And look,

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Speaker 4: your heart breaks for him because you love to see

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Speaker 4: people perform under pressure. You don't want to see anyone

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Speaker 4: hurting or feel the way that the fan base come

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Speaker 4: down him. But at the end of the day, you're

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Speaker 4: Ohio State. You have more than enough opportunities to win

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Speaker 4: that game. The fourth and one that you decided to

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Speaker 4: go with, Julian says didn't go doesn't go your way.

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Speaker 4: You could have kicked the field goal to tie it DN,

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Speaker 4: assuming that he makes it. You come down. You had

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Speaker 4: ample opportunity to win the game and you're unable to

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Speaker 4: I have to give a lot of credit.

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Speaker 3: To Indiana for making the plays that were dead to

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Speaker 2: All Right, We talked about Mendoz that possibly winning the

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Speaker 2: But it's very difficult for me to say he's an

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Speaker 2: outright winner because what won that game yesterday for Indiana

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Speaker 2: was defense, not the quarterback as much as the defense.

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Speaker 2: Two things in my mind won the game for Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Defense and ball control. They just kept on keeping that

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Speaker 2: and that won the ball game for him.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I mean, I think both teams wanted

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Speaker 3: They wanted to dominate possession.

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Speaker 4: They wanted to limit the opportunities that the opponent had

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Speaker 4: because both offenses were fairly explosive. And in this one

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Speaker 4: Indiana and Dan Lanning said this to Oregon coach when

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Speaker 4: they played Indiana, man about his well coached team, as

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Speaker 4: you're going to play, and in watching that game, they

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Speaker 4: just look at how they execute the assignments and are

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Speaker 4: they consistent in terms of the way that they play.

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Speaker 4: Indiana was very consistent in terms of you could see

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Speaker 4: what the game plan was, you could see the things

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Speaker 4: they did him at a high level. I guess the

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Speaker 4: team that everyone in regards as the most talented team

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Speaker 4: to give the credit to the defense. They didn't give

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Speaker 4: it is a terrific performance. In general, Mendoza is gonna

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Speaker 4: get a lot of the credit, right, He's gonna be

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Speaker 4: the Heisman Trophy in those things. But I'm gonna tell you, man,

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Speaker 4: Indiana's success is due to the entire team, not just

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Speaker 2: And honestly, you know, I look at that game and

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Speaker 2: had that pindle out there, no one picked Indiana. Everybody said,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State's coulda win the game? I guess you know

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Speaker 2: they would have the favorites to win that game. I'm sure,

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Speaker 2: but I looked at the penalty. Even on our own guy

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Speaker 2: Ohio State. I'm saying, wow. I mean, you know, don't

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Speaker 2: bury them that quickly. They're not that bad. I mean

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Speaker 2: they and they came back and they won the ball game.

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Speaker 2: That was amazing. It really was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But I mean I understand why everyone would pick Ohio State,

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Speaker 4: like everyone anyone around college football would ta you. It's

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Speaker 4: the most talented team in football. They're gonna have maybe

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Speaker 4: four first round picks from in this year's draft alone.

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Speaker 4: They got two of the top wide receivers in the country.

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Speaker 4: The quarterback was a big time recruit who transferred from Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Offensive line is terrific, defensive line or whatever, all those things.

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Speaker 4: And they're coming on the heels of winning a national

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Speaker 4: and all that's going to play in their favor, it

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Speaker 4: makes sense to pick Ohio State. And for Indiana, let's

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Speaker 4: be honest, we saw them be Oregon. But there's still

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Speaker 4: we saw them having their opportunity in the big stage

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Speaker 4: sometimes you don't believe until you see it. And now

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Speaker 4: you're more likely to believe in Indiana as a number

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Speaker 4: Now you believe that they are with the heavyweights and

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Speaker 3: Guys, there you go.

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Speaker 2: I do believe that. We have some comments from the

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Speaker 3: We want to give all the glory to gone.

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Speaker 1: We're never supposed to be in this position. Be by

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Speaker 1: the glory Golle. The great coach is great teams. I'm

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Speaker 5: We were able to pull this off.

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Speaker 6: Whoever go to hoos would be here for now, the

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Speaker 6: Hoosiers or flipping champs.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 6: You guys call yourself a bunch of misfits who found

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Speaker 2: Why was this the right place.

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Speaker 3: For this group?

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Speaker 6: Is the right place for process orangein We're going.

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Speaker 1: Day by day?

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Speaker 2: What is abitalan?

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Speaker 6: The defense, the coaches, special teams, we're all prozes orangin

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Speaker 6: to one goal. That's our thing is we're brothers. We

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Speaker 6: we're gonna stick together and we're the strongest glue ever.

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Speaker 2: But amazing and brothers. After that first play, I saw

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Speaker 2: may have been out for the game. I don't know

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Speaker 2: exactly what happened. He got hit pretty hard on that play,

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Speaker 2: Fernando did.

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Speaker 3: He did get hit pretty hard.

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Speaker 4: And maybe that's why it sounded like an infomercer for

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Speaker 4: Indiana football.

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Speaker 3: When he was being interviewed. Every cliche that the coach

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Speaker 4: In a in a team meeting, he certainly was willing

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Speaker 3: But give them a lot of credit.

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Speaker 4: And I think people have to understand, like all of

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Speaker 4: the coininess behind Kirk Signetti some of their players in

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Speaker 4: terms of their talking, beneath that is a true self belief,

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Speaker 4: and what they're talking about, and they have it on

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Speaker 4: And I would say Signetti will be kind of the

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Speaker 4: He brought half of his squad from JMU there.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: We want that type of thing.

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Speaker 3: Interesting okay.

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Speaker 2: But now moving on from Indiana, we got some bubble

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Speaker 3: I mean That's just what it is.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise, why play the game If Miami doesn't get the

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Speaker 4: The question that you can have is does Alabama deserve

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Speaker 3: You get left.

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Speaker 4: Alabama has three losses, But then the argument would be

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Speaker 3: If you want to leave a president, then you leave

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Speaker 4: And it would be hard because the brand. It would

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame does a plan a conference. They don't.

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Speaker 4: They chose to be independent, so you have to penalize

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Speaker 2: But there's one other thing. Obviously, Alabama, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: That's the dagger that's gonna kill Alabama right there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, it's certainly dead hurts. That does hurt.

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Speaker 4: And if you talk about Notre Dame's losses, their losses

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Speaker 3: That is a thing.

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Speaker 4: You better pull out the computer sheets because it's gonna

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Speaker 3: Two teams in the playoff.

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Speaker 4: If they go James Madison University goes in Sunbuilt, they

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Speaker 4: I'm excited about seeing them play one of the heavyweights.

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Speaker 3: It is a nice story, but I.

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Speaker 4: Look, if we're talking about twelve best teams, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I've said this, this playoff is all messed up.

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Speaker 3: There should be a big Boy Trophy and a little

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Speaker 4: Where they all can play and light universities can play

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Speaker 2: And more than that, you talk about those two teams

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Speaker 3: Right, No, No, done that. Vanderbilt then get screwed. They

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Speaker 4: But if you're gonna talk about Vanderbilt, then you have

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Speaker 4: But I do believe there should be a group of

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Speaker 2: Okay, you talk about Texas right now, Texas is three

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Like I guess, you have to look at this schedule

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Speaker 3: And I think that is the bigger thing.

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Speaker 4: Like people love Notre Dame, we love the brand and

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Speaker 4: who's right there with them. I just don't know, like

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I have any.

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Speaker 2: Name, I think the name's going to carry them, I

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Speaker 4: I mean, I get it, certainly, I understand why, understand

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Speaker 3: But man, you just talk about.

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Speaker 4: Like changing the landscape potentially, you're changing the landscape of

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Speaker 3: So you have them getting in.

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Speaker 4: You have Tulane taking the spot, so you have two

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Speaker 4: very difficult for me to say, oh, this is a

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Speaker 2: I'm with you right there, and I'll throw another wrench

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Speaker 2: If the conference championship game is not gonna hurt Alabama's

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Speaker 7: They got yesterday, right, Yeah, they got They got banged

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Speaker 3: So I think we have to discount them. We got

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Speaker 2: And you're right, everything you say is correct. I'll throw

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Speaker 4: it's kind of easy leave them out.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: The funny thing is, I want these guys to be

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Speaker 2: let's get into this right now. I want to just

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Speaker 2: touch for a second if I may on this Lane

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Speaker 2: Kiffin thing, because to me, I find that someone amusing

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Speaker 2: and somewhat crazy in the sense. Okay, there was a

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Speaker 2: couple of players from Old Miss and they posted the

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Speaker 2: other day on x saying that Lane Kiffin's claim about

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Speaker 2: them asking him to stay, and one of the linebackers

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Speaker 2: there at OL, miss Perkins, I think considering Perkins said

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Speaker 2: that that was not the message you said in the

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Speaker 2: meeting room. Everybody that was in there can vouch for

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Speaker 2: this that they did not wish that he would stay.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's got some problems. And then he

493
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Speaker 2: said on the way to the airport with his son,

494
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Speaker 2: people were cutting him off, you know, and flipping him

495
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Speaker 2: the one finger salute. I don't get it. I mean, really,

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Speaker 2: I think they were happy to see him go. What

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Speaker 2: do you think? I don't Why would he say things

498
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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think people were happy to see him go

500
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Speaker 4: because he dragged him through such a soap op to

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Speaker 4: get there. It's one thing to take a job to

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Speaker 4: a conference rival. It's another thing to leave this team

503
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Speaker 4: hanging while you're competing not only for a conference title,

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Speaker 4: but for a college football playoff. Berth Blane Kiffin could

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Speaker 4: have handled this completely differently if he had just made

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Speaker 4: a decision, gone to the ads, and been able to

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Speaker 4: live with decision that, hey man, we're not gonna let

508
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Speaker 4: you coach the rest of the way. And I know

509
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Speaker 4: that other people have been able to coach after taking jobs, right, So,

510
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Speaker 4: whether you say John somemmerl at Tulane before he took

511
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Speaker 4: the job at Florida, Popchesney at JMU, coached the finale

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Speaker 4: before he took the job at UCLA, all those things

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Speaker 4: are cool. But Lane Kiffen could not get it done

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Speaker 4: because they just couldn't get on the same.

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Speaker 3: Page and because he dragged them through this stuff.

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Speaker 4: If he's just straight up with everybody takes the job,

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Speaker 4: if you're gonna leave leif, I understand the players feeling

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 3: But Lane wanted to be the good guy and the

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Speaker 3: bad gut the same time.

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Speaker 4: He wanted to be the good guy, like, oh, I

522
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Speaker 4: love you guys so much, but I want to take

523
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Speaker 4: this job for my money because I feel like it's

524
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Speaker 4: better for me. But he was a bad guy by

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Speaker 4: poaching the coaching staff and saying, hey, I'm not gonna

526
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Speaker 4: let those guys coach with you, until he finally relented

527
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Speaker 4: and let Charlie Weiss Junior coach the offense. So to me,

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Speaker 4: if I'm old miss, I understand them standing ten toes

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Speaker 4: down and not allowing them to coach because it was

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Speaker 4: a lot. He was trying to have his cake and

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Speaker 4: eat it too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you know Lane Kiffin at all? Have you

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Speaker 2: met him? I mean, have you supposed Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've been around the circuit with I

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Speaker 4: can't say they were buddies. But I know him fairly well,

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Speaker 4: having been a scout when he was at as He

537
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Speaker 4: knowing when he was with the Raiders all that.

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Speaker 3: Like, I know who he is.

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Speaker 2: I mean to me, I mean, I don't know him

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Speaker 2: at all, but I just think he's got an ego

541
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Speaker 2: bigger than the moon. And I don't think LUs he

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Speaker 2: was going to be his last stop.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Look, I will say this, he's a great coach, He's

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Speaker 4: a great offensive mine.

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Speaker 3: He's done a lot of wonderful things.

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Speaker 4: He rebuilt the brand at Old Man, he had a

548
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Speaker 4: lot of success at Florida Atlantic in those things. But

549
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Speaker 4: Elish is a different pressure cooker. He's stepping into something

550
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 4: that is maybe the biggest job that he's had, and

551
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Speaker 4: we'll see if he can handle all those things. For

552
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Speaker 4: all of the currency and goodwill that Lane had built

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Speaker 4: up doing his rebirth at Old Miss. He threw it

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Speaker 4: all out the window and the way he handled this situation.

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Speaker 3: But now he just has to own it. He's the villain.

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Speaker 4: He just has to be okay with it and go forward.

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Speaker 4: He can't look back. He got to go forward, and

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Speaker 4: Old Miss the same thing. It was a nice run,

559
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Speaker 4: a nice ride from lank If and he decided that

560
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Speaker 4: he found somebody better. You got to let him go,

561
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Speaker 4: and you got to focus on helping Pete Gold and

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Speaker 4: have a higher level of success that Lane enjoyed while

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Speaker 4: he was there.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about that, okay. And speaking of coaches to

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Speaker 2: speaking about coaches going, I mean this to me is

566
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Speaker 2: like a horror story. Today, the steel is a playing

567
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 2: in the Ravens. Both teams are six and six, But

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Speaker 2: the big story surrounding this game right now is the

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Speaker 2: coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin and people

570
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: fans obviously, but now these former players want them out.

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Speaker 2: Do you take a listen to what James Harrison had

572
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Speaker 2: to say about Mike Tomlin. Let's hear this.

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Speaker 5: And as much as I hate to say this, I

574
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Speaker 5: have never been a person that thought Coach Tomlin was

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Speaker 5: a great coach. I thought he was a good coach,

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Speaker 5: and I'll be honest. Part of that is because when

577
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Speaker 5: I was slated to be the starter when Joey left,

578
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Speaker 5: he drafted one and two outside linebackers and I was

579
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Speaker 5: actually behind one of them for a minute. Okay, well,

580
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Speaker 5: but right now, we have coaches on this staff and

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Speaker 5: that's it. And when I say coaches, I'm saying this

582
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Speaker 5: as a coach is someone that tells you what to do,

583
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Speaker 5: and it doesn't matter if what they're telling you to

584
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 5: do is right or wrong. That's what a coach does.

585
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 5: And we have coaches. Okay, A good coach gets you

586
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 5: to play to your potential. And right now, the players

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00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 5: we have on that team I have seen play. I

588
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 5: know they can do it. I have seen them do it,

589
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Speaker 5: and they're not playing up to their potential.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, I mean, I'm hearing this. I don't like when

591
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: former players bang and pounce on current situations right now.

592
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's better off saying nothing. And Ben Roethlisberger is

593
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Speaker 2: another one who pounced on my tom And let me

594
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Speaker 2: just say this about Mike Toman. He's about fifty three

595
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Speaker 2: years of age, one hundred and eighty nine regular season wins,

596
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Speaker 2: eleven most in NFL history, and during his nineteen years

597
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: with the Pittsburgh Steelers, a WINNI percentage of sixty two

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Speaker 2: point five, the best in franchise history. I never had

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00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: a losing season, all right, Your coaches or only is

600
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Speaker 2: and I never coached. But coach is only as good

601
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: as the talent they have. I think he's one hell

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Speaker 2: of a coach, and I think he's a Hall of

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Speaker 2: fame coach. And for players to disregard what he has

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Speaker 2: done and to bang on him right now, I think

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Speaker 2: it's wrong. I think it's just poor. I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the wrong thing to do.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, I mean, two things can be true.

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Speaker 4: Once he can be a Hall of Famer, but he

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Speaker 4: also can be a guy that maybe is the end

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Speaker 4: of the line in Pittsburgh.

611
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Speaker 3: We saw this happen with Andy Reid.

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Speaker 4: We saw the Philadelphia Eagles grow tired of Andy Reid

613
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Speaker 4: despite his success.

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Speaker 3: I think at the time he was let go, he

615
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Speaker 3: had led.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles to five NFC championship games with Donovan McNabb

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Speaker 4: and had been a bit of the quarterback guru and

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Speaker 4: those things. When they separated, Andy Reid goes to Kansas

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Speaker 4: City and has in a dynastic run with the Kana

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Speaker 4: City Chiefs with three Super Bowls five Super Bowl appearances.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles have won two since Andy Reid parted, so

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Speaker 4: it is possible for it to be a win win

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Speaker 4: situation at the end of this. I did read last

624
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Speaker 4: night that in March of next year, the Pittsburgh still

625
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 4: has have a tough decision to make. Mike Tomlin has

626
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 4: an option on his contract where they have to either

627
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Speaker 4: pick up the option for twenty twenty seven or he

628
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: can be a free agent at the end of twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty six. So in essence, they don't have to fire him,

630
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Speaker 4: but they could allow him to coach as a lame

631
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 4: dunk and then at the end of that he could

632
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 4: become a free agent for either the Stillers to resign

633
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Speaker 4: or for the National Football League to have at him.

634
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: Maybe that's the situation that we see transpire. Coach out

635
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 4: the last five games, they decide, hey, it's not good enough,

636
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Speaker 4: we not go pick up your option you coached this

637
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: last year here, or that invites other people to come

638
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: in and either trade for him or whatever. But yeah,

639
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: something's gonna happen with Mike Tomlin. I'm not saying he's

640
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 4: gonna be fired, but they're gonna have to make a

641
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: decision whether they double down on the coach he's been

642
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: the most successful coach in the history based on regular

643
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 4: season win percentage, or they're gonna say, hey, we're gonna

644
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: try and find someone better. But this is what we

645
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: do know about the Pittsburgh Steelers. They believe in stability.

646
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: They've had a lot of success, but look the last

647
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 4: couple of years, it's been disappointed. This has been a

648
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 4: very disappointing year based on their expectations of what they

649
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: thought this year was going to be, going all in

650
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Speaker 4: and being a five hundred team. It's certainly not what

651
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Speaker 4: it's still has signed up for.

652
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Speaker 2: I believe they've only had three coaches since nineteen forty one,

653
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Speaker 2: so I think he's in pretty good shape that they're

654
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Speaker 2: not looking to make a change. But again, I don't

655
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Speaker 2: think it's fair to kind of pinpoint all the errors

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Speaker 2: and all the problems of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm like

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Speaker 2: tonind but that's what the coach does, and he's the

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Speaker 2: CEO of the organization that they do poorly, it's his

659
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Speaker 2: full That's the way it is it is.

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Speaker 3: Look, that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: When you cash the big check and you have the whistle,

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Speaker 4: it all falls in your watch.

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Speaker 3: You're responsible for.

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Speaker 4: The product that takes place, and that even if you

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Speaker 4: say a I give my coaches autonomy to do whatever,

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Speaker 4: it comes back to you. So if the defense isn't playing,

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Speaker 4: regardless of whether you want to blame it or defensive

668
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Speaker 4: coordinator Tarol lost it, it comes back to Mike Tomley

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Speaker 4: because you allowed it to happen.

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Speaker 3: If it goes to.

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Speaker 4: The offense and Arthur Smith, doesn't matter if Arthur Smith

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Speaker 4: is going to play Mike Tomlin, you allowed it to happen.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, they.

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Speaker 4: Hold the head coach accountable for the performance of the

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Speaker 4: team on the field. He has to fix it. He

676
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Speaker 4: has five games or whatever to fix it. They have

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Speaker 4: a chance against the Baltimore Ravens to go back to

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Speaker 4: first place. It is on Mike Towmland to determine how

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Speaker 4: the rest of this story plays out.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you mentioned something early on about

681
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Speaker 2: the Kurt Signitti situation and the fact that you know

682
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Speaker 2: he's putting pressure on other coaches in the college situation

683
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Speaker 2: because what he did. He came in and immediately took

684
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Speaker 2: them to the playoffs, and that puts pressure on other schools.

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Speaker 2: Like you talked about Matt Campbell. Now he's leaving on

686
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Speaker 2: Iowa State, he's going to Penn State. He better turn

687
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Speaker 2: it around because Curt Signetti did it. I think there's

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Speaker 2: a situation maybe in the pros, the same situation where

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson when he didn't Icago, I mean Caleb the quarterback,

690
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Speaker 2: he said it was a wastelam for quarterbacks, and now

691
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden the Bears. They may end up

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Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. You never know, So I think

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Speaker 2: the pressure there can create a swing, a snowball effect

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Speaker 2: rolling downhill where owners and ownership say, well, look what

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson did in a year. We got Mike Tomlin

696
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Speaker 2: here and it's the same stale situation. Maybe it's time

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Speaker 2: for a change. I think that could create pressure, don't

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Speaker 2: you think?

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Speaker 3: No? It did. It's great pressure.

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Speaker 4: When those guys jump right in and have a lot

701
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Speaker 4: of success, everyone's fan base wants to know why can't

702
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Speaker 4: we have what they're having. That's just a natural a feeling,

703
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 4: the natural emotion to have when you're looking at your.

704
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Speaker 3: Team in comparison to others.

705
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Speaker 4: However, when we talk about established coaches, guys like Mike Tomlin,

706
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Speaker 4: you typically have the ebbs and flows in those things.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing that makes it tricky for Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 4: right because people love and Look, I've been one of

709
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Speaker 4: the biggest his biggest supporters in terms of he's never

710
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Speaker 4: had a losing season. They go to the playoffs every year,

711
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Speaker 4: but they haven't had a win since twenty sixteen. I'm

712
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Speaker 4: not a mathematician, but it's twenty twenty five now, so

713
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Speaker 4: we're talking about ten years where.

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Speaker 3: You haven't won a playoff game. That's really, really hard.

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Speaker 4: And it reminds me of Marvin Lewis in Cincinnati, where

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Speaker 4: you can have this success, but people grow tired of

717
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Speaker 4: just getting to this point. Marvin went having many years

718
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Speaker 4: where he couldn't win, He couldn't get past the first round,

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Speaker 4: they didn't win the game, and the Bengals fans got tired. Now,

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Speaker 4: I will say this to me, Marvin Lewis is a

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Speaker 4: much better coach than Zach Taylor, much better, doubt, but

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Speaker 4: Zach Taylor will get the credit because he got them

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Speaker 4: to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That's just what it is. And So for Mike Toomland to.

725
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Speaker 2: Get what Joe I don't think Zach Taylor did.

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Speaker 3: I think Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Zach Taylor's a head coach, so he gets all the kudos.

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Speaker 4: Like I mean, it's the same thing. You can't separate him.

729
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Speaker 4: And the same thing for Mike Tomlin. If he wants

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Speaker 4: to quiet the noise, he has to be able to

731
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Speaker 4: get into the postseason, and he has to win some

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Speaker 4: games to at least silence some of the critiques that

733
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Speaker 4: are being the bars that are being lobbed his way.

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Speaker 2: Know that about that. We'll see what happens. I tell

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Speaker 2: you what, I think it's a big game for Pittsburgh today.

736
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Speaker 2: I think they're healthier than Baltimore is. But we'll see

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Speaker 2: what happens. I don't know if that means anything, but

738
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Speaker 2: I think that Pittsburgh's gotta win today. Even though Aaron

739
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Speaker 2: Rodgers play has one arm. Really, I don't think he's

740
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Speaker 2: entirely healthy. I don't think he's one hundred percent. But

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Speaker 2: we'll see what happens there. All right, He's Bucky Brooks.

742
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Speaker 2: I'm Andy Ferman. We are Fox Football sonnya Foxpitts Radio,

743
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Speaker 2: and we call him the answer man, and you call

744
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: him Bucky because ask Bucky.

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746
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747
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748
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Speaker 2: All right, it's time for as Bucky. He's Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 2: and Andy Furman and we are Fox Football Sunday at

751
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, and we're live from the Fox Sports

752
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Speaker 2: Radio studios about twelve minutes before the top of the hour,

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Speaker 2: So it's time, Brandon, Are you ready for ass Bucky?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am that a question? You got a question

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Speaker 2: for it?

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Speaker 3: I do? I do?

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Speaker 10: I have a few questions. I think the first one

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Speaker 10: is something you touched on earlier. But what do you

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Speaker 10: think is the worst scenario in terms of backlash for

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Speaker 10: the committee? Because there's really no good scenario you put

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Speaker 10: in Notre Dame. It doesn't you know value that had

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Speaker 10: Toad you put in. You leave Bam out. No one

764
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Speaker 10: wants to play in championship games. I want to hear

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Speaker 10: your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 3: I would say that.

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Speaker 4: I would say the worst case scenario would be to

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Speaker 4: leave Miami out and put Notre Dame in just because

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Speaker 4: it diminishes to hit the hit factor. What's the point

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Speaker 4: of playing the game on the field if you don't

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Speaker 4: get the benefit for being the victor.

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Speaker 3: So to me, that would be the worst.

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Speaker 4: The rest of them are subjective and you can kind

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Speaker 4: of dance around it, but the hit to hit on

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Speaker 4: the field, yeah, you can't avoid that one. If I

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Speaker 4: am Miami and I dominated Notre Dame, I should get

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Speaker 4: the benefit of dominating them and go over top of

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Speaker 4: them if all things are tied up.

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Speaker 10: One hundred percent. I also think we have to know too,

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Speaker 10: like the CFP might want to put an acc team

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Speaker 10: in just so they don't get you know, the conference.

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Speaker 10: Obviously they would they would have a temper tantrum if

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Speaker 10: they don't get one team in. I think the next

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Speaker 10: question I wanted to say is more relevant to something

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Speaker 10: happening in the new IIL era. But Ty Simpson was

786
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Speaker 10: a quarterback prospect in the twenty twenty sixth draft. Now

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Speaker 10: it's a week draft and he might come back to school.

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Speaker 10: The issue with that is, and I think a lot

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Speaker 10: of schools are going with that are having this issue. Rather,

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Speaker 10: is Russell Keelan Russell, who is the second overall prospect

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Speaker 10: in the twenty twenty five class would transfer probably if

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Speaker 10: ty Simpson goes back to school in US. He is

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Speaker 10: the same problem with Mayava and Hassan Longstreet. I wanted

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Speaker 10: to ask your thoughts on that and how colleges should

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Speaker 10: approach those situations.

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Speaker 3: Well, you got to pay both of them. You gotta.

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Speaker 4: Ifigure got a way to pay both them, you got

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Speaker 4: to keep one around. You got to keep both of

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Speaker 4: those guys around because if not, it's always musical chairs

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Speaker 4: at the position. But if you're the coach, you always

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Speaker 4: want the guy who just played Ty Simpson just as

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Speaker 4: his first full season of playing as the starter. You

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Speaker 4: don't want d have to walk out the door, particularly

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Speaker 4: if he's coming back to college. It's gonna bounce somewhere.

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Speaker 4: So you got to find a way to pay both guys.

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Speaker 4: But you have to be honest and if the backup

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Speaker 4: is going to leave, then so be it. That's why

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00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 4: you always have to be recruiting. That's just the game

809
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 4: and the life that we're in in college football. But

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Speaker 4: you can't let an established starter go unless you feel

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Speaker 4: confident that the backup is going to give you the

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Speaker 4: same kind of production or better production than he gave

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Speaker 4: you cool?

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Speaker 2: All right? Is the Magic Man ready? Do you have

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Speaker 2: anything that Mark? Mark? Magicman? You got something for Bucky?

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Speaker 2: Not really, I was just listening to what they were

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Speaker 2: saying about stuff. But go ahead, go ahead, I got

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Speaker 2: something for him. Okay, let's talk about Odell Beckham Junior

819
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Speaker 2: was on the Pivot podcast the other day. He had

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Speaker 2: an argument. He said that a one hundred million dollar

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Speaker 2: contract wasn't enough for pro athletes to live on for

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Speaker 2: the rest of their lives. Could you please explain that

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Speaker 2: to me? Maybe he's living in a different world. I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think what he was doing was trying to

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Speaker 4: talk about it doesn't last a lifetime if you're not

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Speaker 4: really up on it. And so what he was trying

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Speaker 4: to do was give the scenario where everyone hears the

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Speaker 4: number one hundred million dollars, but then they don't hear Oh,

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Speaker 4: taxes take away forty percent of that, so it's sixty

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Speaker 4: million dollars, then other things. So he did a long dive,

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Speaker 4: but people only heard that clip. And then he talked

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Speaker 4: about like being irresponsible with money and not saying that

834
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Speaker 4: he was broke, but being irresponsible for taking on all

835
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Speaker 4: of the family members, which is a very familiar tale

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Speaker 4: for a lot of athletes who talked about how they've

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Speaker 4: blown through cash because it's not just them, it's family

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Speaker 4: and everybody else linking into the cash. So, yeah, one

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Speaker 4: hundred million dollars is more enough to live a lifetime on.

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Speaker 4: But what he was trying to do was to give

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Speaker 4: a honest depiction on how that money can go for

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Speaker 4: some athletes who have a lot of hangers on.

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Speaker 2: Got you Okay? Now that clear that. Let's talk about

844
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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys for a second, and then wide receiver

845
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Speaker 2: George Pickens on the social media post he had his

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Speaker 2: response to criticism he received from Formal oll Pro cornerback

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Speaker 2: Richard Sherman. This was on the Prime Video broadcast Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Sherman said Pickens looked quote uninterested and disengaged during the

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Speaker 2: cowboys forty fourth to thirty loss to the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 2: and George was not too happy about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, I mean, here's what I would say about

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Speaker 4: George Pickens because I saw the shot that he took

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Speaker 4: at Richard Sherman. Richard Sherman really gave an honest assessment

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Speaker 4: because George Pickens didn't play well in that game. He

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Speaker 4: looked a little lethargic, lacka day's ago going to the

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Speaker 4: ball and didn't give the effort. And what it did

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Speaker 4: is that performance played into the narrative that accompanied him

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Speaker 4: when he went from Pittsburgh to Dallas that he was

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Speaker 4: inconsistent in. How could you hang your hopes on someone

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Speaker 4: because at the time, I remember, we were talking about

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Speaker 4: George Pickens being paid and maybe he may end up

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Speaker 4: being a thirty five to forty million dollars wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: He didn't show that.

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Speaker 4: He took a shot at Richard Sherman talking about his

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Speaker 4: days of San Francisco, but didn't realize Richard Sherman still

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Speaker 4: earned another off pro and went to another Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: So I think the players today have to just eliminate

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Speaker 4: and not listening to all the noise on the outside

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Speaker 4: because they're very sensitive to criticism. They don't like t

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Speaker 4: get any criticism at all. And so it's just one

871
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Speaker 4: of those things where, man, if you fire off and

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Speaker 4: give an honest critique, it always comes back where it

873
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Speaker 4: becomes personal.

874
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: It's weird.

875
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I got one quickie for you. Now, Why is

876
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: the college football portal open during their playoffs? Don't get it.

877
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: Because college football is stupid and they don't have any leadership.

878
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: They need a commissioner, they need someone who make sure

879
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 4: that the timelines all match up. All of this is

880
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: stupid and they could be better done, but they've been

881
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: able to get away with it for so long.

882
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 3: Did it never change?

883
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 11: It?

884
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: There we go?

885
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 2: I got you all right, look at the number ones

886
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 2: right now, and we'll tell you what's wrong with this picture,

887
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: that and so much more With Bucket Brooks and Andy

888
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: Firman right here Fox Football Son. They coming up next.

889
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: Bad call up North will explain that just about a minute.

890
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, this is Fox Football Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks.

891
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,799
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892
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,040
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893
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895
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896
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897
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899
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Speaker 2: YouTube and subscribe. And here he is, my guy, the

900
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: man of the hour, Bucky Brooks. How are you buck

901
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: another football day?

902
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: Man? I'm good. That's everything, and.

903
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: Everything is good. I got a couple of questions. I

904
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: want to throw you away because I know you have

905
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: the answers. Number one, how surprised were you with this

906
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 2: Matt Campbell move from Iowa State to Penn State? And

907
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: I mean that was kind of kept under the rug

908
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: a little bit to the eleventh hour. I mean, didn't

909
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: hear much about Matt Campbell leaving.

910
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, a bit surprised only in terms of he's been

911
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 4: an Ioways State for so long. He's done such a

912
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: good job of building them up, like the most successful

913
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 4: coach in Iowa State history. Just a long I guess

914
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 4: ride or journey before Penn State was able to get

915
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: to Matt Campbell. You would think that if Matt Campbell

916
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: was gonna be the guy, you'd been able to wrap

917
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: this up sooner, because, look, he is a good coach.

918
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 4: He has been a name that has kind of been

919
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: in the line light for a while.

920
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: In terms of some of these bigger jobs.

921
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 4: Just surprised that it's a Penn State a while to

922
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: get to him, But I do believe it ends up

923
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 4: being a good hire. He's a really good coach. He's

924
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: done great things wherever he's been. You would assume, with

925
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: more resources an opportunity to have better players, that he

926
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 4: would do great things at Penn State.

927
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. But don't you think that there

928
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: are other coaches ahead of him on the list that

929
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: they went for and they just either yeah right, okay.

930
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that's tough.

931
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 4: I mean, look, no one wants to be the second, third,

932
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: fourth choice, But it doesn't matter. Once you get the gig,

933
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: it's on you to do with it what you will.

934
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 4: He has an opportunity to make this a great gig

935
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: by taking the players that he gets, that he brings

936
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 4: in in elevating this program. Now, the standard is high

937
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 4: because what's going to happen. All of the disdain from

938
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 4: James Franklin is going to go away, and all of

939
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 4: a sudden, Matthew Campbell is going to be compared to

940
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 4: the things that James Franklin did. So all those top

941
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: ten finishes, to ten win seasons, all of those things,

942
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: those things are going to be the floor for what

943
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: they expect from Matt Campbell. So he has to understand

944
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: what the expectations are and get that team to go

945
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 4: to another level.

946
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, I remember when Matt Campbell coached the University

947
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: of Toledo. That's when I first met him. And now

948
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: a story comes out the other day which I couldnot

949
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: understand this whatsoever. Jason Candell the coach of Toledo, he

950
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: left to go to Yukon. What kind of move is that?

951
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: Why would you go to Connecticut? And let's he as

952
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: family there. Other than that, I have no idea why

953
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: to go from Toledo and then Matt conference to Connecticut.

954
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Connecticut is a little bit of a

955
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: bigger job.

956
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: You may have more resources, a different thing, and maybe

957
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 4: it's a different channel challenge. You know, you, Jason Candall,

958
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: you want to see if you can do it elsewhere.

959
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 4: Jim Moore junior done a really good job at Yukon

960
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 4: back to back nine win season. So you have a name,

961
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: you have a profile. You can use the success of

962
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 4: the basketball team men's and women's to heighten the profile

963
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: to get into more rooms in terms of recruiting, and

964
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 4: then you have a chance to elevate it and take

965
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: it even higher. Look, you kind of had success throughout

966
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 4: his time at various stops.

967
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: Randy Etzel has success for a while.

968
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 4: And then Jim Moore junior, this is an opportunity for

969
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 4: him to elevate the program. So I can understand why

970
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 4: you want to leave Toledo, get out the MAC and

971
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 4: see if you can do something elsewhere.

972
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: Ah, I hear you. And last but not least, I

973
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: mean to talk about how crazy the college landscape is

974
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: right now. And look, I'm not one of those guys

975
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: as opposed to change, but you know, sometimes change isn't good.

976
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 2: And I think some of the things that we mentioned,

977
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: the fact that the portal is open during the playoffs,

978
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: that's just plain stupid, it is. But the University of

979
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 2: Georgia and the athletic department, they're going to court right now.

980
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: They want to obtain fridge at ninety thousand dollars in

981
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 2: damages from a former standout defensive end who transferred from

982
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 2: Georgia after his sophomore year, and they want to get

983
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: the money back. I guess they gave him an nil money.

984
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean it's almost like pro football,

985
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: it really is. And with contracts and il situations and

986
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: you know who's getting the money. And you know, again,

987
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: I say recruiting used to be a situation where coach

988
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: are going to the living room of a home and

989
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: talk to mama and papa talked to the kid, this

990
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: was going to happen. No, now you got to go

991
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: with a checkbook. That's what it's all about.

992
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this case is a bit of an landmark

993
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: case because what they're suing for, they're suing for future moneies.

994
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 3: They didn't even pay him out the money that they're so.

995
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 4: I think he had one payment of thirty thousand dollars,

996
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 4: but they're suing for.

997
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: Three hundred and ninety k.

998
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 4: They're suing for everything that was the entire contract, which

999
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: is unprecedented. And what it would do it would begin

1000
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 4: to tie players to the programs that did originally signed

1001
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,959
Speaker 4: to and commit to, giving the large sums of money

1002
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 4: that you would have to pay back if you depart it.

1003
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 4: So it'd be interesting to see how this one plays

1004
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 4: out because it would be a way because you're hearing

1005
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: some senators and politicians legislate they don't like what's happening

1006
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 4: in college football and college basketball, the bouncing around and

1007
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 4: players getting money, it would be a way to act

1008
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 4: some control to that.

1009
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: So if you're free labor. In terms of free enterprise,

1010
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: people having the ability to move around.

1011
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: You won't want this to go because what it's gonna do,

1012
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 4: it's gonna restrict how people move around in the college landscape.

1013
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: Okay, now I want to talk about something close to

1014
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: the home for you, because we want to talk about

1015
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: your Jacksonville Jacks. They're eight and four and they're hosting

1016
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts and they're eight and four as well.

1017
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: And is it a time right now for the Colts

1018
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: to take a deep breath, take a step back, and

1019
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 2: maybe worry a little bit about Danny Dimes, the quarterback.

1020
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: They lost to the Chiefs twenty three to twenty. But

1021
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: in that game, the Colts led in the fourth quarter

1022
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: by a score of twenty to nine. And in back

1023
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: to back games, Danny Jones, their quarterback against Pittsburgh and Atlanta,

1024
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: was sacked twelve times. All right, And also the good

1025
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: news for you with the Jags, their quarterback Sauce Guard

1026
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: that he's out. So I think that the seams are

1027
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: beginning to split a little bit in Indianapolis, Am I correct?

1028
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they were the darlings of the league, but

1029
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: right now things are changing a little bit of Indy.

1030
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like, I think a couple of things

1031
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 4: with the Indianapolis Coast, Like they're reaching the tough stretch

1032
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: of the season where they're playing some of these heavyweights,

1033
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: and they're doing it with a quarterback that's compromised with

1034
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: an injury. Daniel Jones has a fiblic injury that will

1035
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: take away some of his ability to.

1036
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: Kind of move around and do some of the things

1037
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: that he did earlier.

1038
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 4: But the other part is the more the Coasts have

1039
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 4: put on tape, the more teams are able to adjust

1040
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 4: to what they want to do. And if you really

1041
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: look at the Coast, the Coats are led by Jonathan Taylor.

1042
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: When Jonathan Taylor gets going, that's when they're at their

1043
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 4: most explosive.

1044
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 3: He is terrific.

1045
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 4: He is averaging over one hundred yards rushing yards per game,

1046
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 4: and so you have to contain him to slow them down.

1047
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 4: So if you contain him and put the game on

1048
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, he's still not quite the guy that can

1049
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 4: carry the team consistently on his right arm, and teams

1050
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 4: are trying to take that away and they're trying to

1051
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 4: put more on them, and he struggled with turnovers the lady.

1052
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: He's been inconsistent, So it'd be interesting to see how

1053
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: Shane Stiken finds a way to alleviate the pressure on

1054
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 4: Jones while also having the counters to deal with how

1055
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 4: teams are gonna play Jonathan Taylor.

1056
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 2: Right, And I got this stat just for you that

1057
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor has rushed for over seven hundred yards against

1058
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: your Jacksonville Jacks, just to let you know.

1059
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: Are you looking?

1060
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am, But then I could throw another stat

1061
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 4: at you that the Indianapois coach haven won down in

1062
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 4: Jacksonville in years almost a decade, So I mean it

1063
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: goes back and forth. The thing about it is, as

1064
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 4: I look out the hotel window and I'm looking at

1065
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 4: this rain come down, whatever it is that you think

1066
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 4: is going to happen may not happen because it's gonna

1067
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 4: be playing in the middle of a mon sooner and

1068
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 4: I'm not happy about it.

1069
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: You know, I'm really glad you mentioned that, because you

1070
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: know what, I thought about this the other day, and

1071
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 2: I don't do a lot of thinking because I don't

1072
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: have much between my years. Okay, that's number one, but

1073
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: number two, you talking about the rain coming down and

1074
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: the elements. There's such an advantage in the National Football

1075
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: League that teams that play in a dome that there's

1076
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: no outside elements that bought. Like today Cincinnati is going

1077
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 2: to Buffalo and the predict they want the three ages

1078
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: of snow. It's got to affect the game. No, I

1079
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 2: love watching those games on TV when you can't even

1080
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: see the lines in the fields covered with snow. But

1081
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: you don't think that there's an advantage playing in a

1082
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: dome situation that has to be I mean, really, I

1083
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: mean Peyton Manning when he let when he left Denver

1084
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: to go to Indianapolis, I think that that saved his

1085
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: career at the end. Really, I mean, don't you think

1086
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: playing indoors? And I just look, I get it. Football

1087
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 2: is very similar in the sense that it's one hundred

1088
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: yards long and we're thirty three and the third yards wide.

1089
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: Every field's the same, So why shouldn't be every field

1090
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: the same as far as elements? And it's not that way.

1091
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: I get it. Maybe it's for fan comfort. Maybe they

1092
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: do more so for fan comfort than the players. I

1093
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: don't know, but I just don't think it's fair. I

1094
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: really don't.

1095
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: Well, it's fan comfort, and what you're saying is an

1096
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 4: advantage in the dome. I would counter and say that

1097
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 4: the teams that are playing outside in elements have a

1098
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: greater advantage because if you're a team that is not

1099
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 4: used to playing in the coal, playing in the snow,

1100
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: playing in the mud or the rain, that's a huge

1101
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 4: advantage for a team that practices and lives in that

1102
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 4: environment daily. In a dome, anybody can play in a dome.

1103
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: That's like playing in the hotel room. We can just

1104
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 4: line up and the ball down and go play. But

1105
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 4: if you're playing outside and I'm telling you the as

1106
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 4: ten degrees with thirty five mile wind gusts, that's a problem.

1107
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 4: That's one of the advantages that the Cincinnati Bengals have

1108
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 4: had in the past. I think back to way way

1109
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: back when they played the Chargers in their little icy bowl,

1110
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 4: like the little little thing and Dan Fous and those

1111
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: guys couldn't get going way way back.

1112
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it's an advantage if you have a good team.

1113
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 4: If your team is good, the ross is good and

1114
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 4: you get the benefit of having some favorable weather conditions. Yeah,

1115
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 4: it's an advantage, But in the dome it allows you

1116
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: to play fast and if you build the team for

1117
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: the Dome, a fast team with a quarterback that can

1118
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: sling it in those things.

1119
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you have some.

1120
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 4: Advantages that you can create, but it's different than playing

1121
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 4: outside in the web.

1122
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm gonna throw a wrench in that thing

1123
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: that you just said. Okay, maybe an advantage because they

1124
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 2: played in that. I think it's a disadvantage for free

1125
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: agency because if I'm a free agent and I got

1126
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: a chance to play in Miami or Green Bay, I'm

1127
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: going to Miami. I don't want to go to Green Bay.

1128
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to Buffalo. I don't want

1129
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 2: to play in those outdoor tundras. I don't want to.

1130
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: You know, it makes you feel a lot better when

1131
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: it's nice and cold. A bed full of cash.

1132
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 4: So if I can lay, if I can lay on

1133
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 4: a water cash, I'm not worried about all that other stuff.

1134
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about all this stuff you're talking about.

1135
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 4: I can go to Miami on vacation if you pay

1136
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 4: me enough, so I'll deal with the elements in those things.

1137
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 4: If the money is significant different, I'm going to chase

1138
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: the cast.

1139
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 2: Okay, you got me. You got me on that. You're right,

1140
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: And if I do the same thing, yeah, I could

1141
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 2: suck it up for the cast, no doubt about that.

1142
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: Now I want to talk about Bucky Brooks, not the player,

1143
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: not the coach, not the scout, not the TV star,

1144
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: but the NFL dot com rider. And you wrote this

1145
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 2: this week and I loved it. Said, forty seasons ago

1146
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 2: to Chicago Bears destroy the New England Patriots in Super

1147
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: Bowl XX, which is twenty not that smart. I had

1148
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 2: to look that up. It's twenty. Could we be looking

1149
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 2: at a rematch this February both the number one seeds.

1150
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing, really because today the Bears are

1151
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: nine and three and they're playing at the Packers eight

1152
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: three and one, all right, and these are two staunch back,

1153
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: history laden teams in the National Football League, and they

1154
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: both play outdoors, which I love that. But I'll tell

1155
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: you one thing, that tie that the Packers have is

1156
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: going to bite them in the rear end when it

1157
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: comes down to the end of the season. I'm sure

1158
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: it's going to be, really so we'll see what happens

1159
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: in that game. Now, So about the Bears, They've rushed

1160
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: for at least one hundred and seven the yards in

1161
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: fear of the last five games. Last week at two

1162
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: eighty one against the Eagles, this is coulda be a

1163
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 2: not out game today. Tell me a little bit about

1164
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: the Bears. Are they for real? Tell me about them?

1165
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: Because they got these takeaways all the time. What's going

1166
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: on with them? How do they change?

1167
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would say they're for real.

1168
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 4: I would say they they're for real because Ben Johnson

1169
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 4: has implemented a scheme that mixes a little physicality with pizaz.

1170
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 4: They are an old school running team, but they do

1171
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 4: it in a very, very creative way. You'll see all

1172
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 4: kinds of motions, shifts, blur motions, orbit, run arounds and

1173
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: things that really test the eye discipline of the defense

1174
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 4: while really coming down hell with an old school run game.

1175
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 4: Then on the outside in the passing game, they gonna

1176
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: spread you round. They can create some mismatches. They gonna

1177
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 4: isolate your defenders to make easy tosses for Kayleb Williams.

1178
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say this, Caleb Williams hasn't played great

1179
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 4: by the numbers. You know, he's completing less than sixty

1180
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 4: percent of his passes. However, he's done a better job

1181
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 4: of managing the game and avoiding the big mistakes that

1182
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 4: plagued his game as a rookie. The Bears are are

1183
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 4: a really good team because on defense they take it

1184
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 4: away and they give their offense extra opportunities. So there

1185
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: was a lot of conversation when Ben Johnson took the job.

1186
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 4: He made some shots. He took some shots at Matt

1187
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 4: Lafleour in the Green Bay Packers. So now this is

1188
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 4: when the tax comes due. This is when the bill

1189
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 4: comes due. If he's gonna beat mouthy pants, he has

1190
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 4: to be able to show up and deliver against a

1191
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: Packer team that has dominated the Bears in this series.

1192
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, the Bears team has ten takeaways over the

1193
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: last five games in the five game winning streak. And

1194
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a coincidence. I mean, and you

1195
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: play the game, so you know this. I see the

1196
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: Bears on defense always trying to punch the ball out

1197
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: of an offensive player's hands. Okay, is that something they

1198
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: teachers an instinct? How does that work? Is that a

1199
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 2: drill that they go through punching the ball out?

1200
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 3: Yes?

1201
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 4: Emphasis, So the people people will give a lot of

1202
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 4: credit to old school Bear legend Charles Tillman Peanut Tillman

1203
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 4: as the call it for the peanut punch.

1204
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 3: He was a master of knocking the ball out.

1205
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 4: And the one thing that everyone would tell you, every

1206
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 4: coach would tell you, the number one deciding factor in

1207
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 4: football games is the turnover battle. If you win the

1208
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 4: turnover battle, you typically win the game.

1209
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: In the league.

1210
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 4: That's why there's such an emphasis on knocking the ball loose,

1211
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: picking it off, trying to find a way to create

1212
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 4: turnovers because that's the easiest path to victory.

1213
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: In the league.

1214
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 4: They have done it better than anybody else. I think

1215
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 4: they lead the league with seventeen interceptions, so they're always

1216
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: around the ball.

1217
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 3: This is a really, really good.

1218
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 4: Team, and I think they've arrived much quicker than many

1219
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 4: of us expected. You thought it might take a little

1220
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 4: bit to rebuild and repair the Bears, but nope, Ben

1221
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 4: Johnson jumped in and they look like an emerging heavyweight

1222
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 4: in the NFC.

1223
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: Okay, coach of THEA for sure. I think Ben Johnson's

1224
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: got it hands down. So you think, well, maybe Vrabel,

1225
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1226
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's a tough one.

1227
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 6: Man.

1228
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 4: I would probably ought for raible because I think less

1229
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 4: was expected of the New England Patriots, and here they

1230
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 4: are the only eleven win team in the league.

1231
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: Okay, and you asked a question when you're on NFL

1232
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: dot com, which team has the most immediate potential? Would

1233
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 2: it be the Patriots or would it be the Bears.

1234
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 4: I think the Bears right now you have to lean

1235
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 4: on only because like their veteran core, what they're able

1236
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 4: to do running the football, how they've been able to

1237
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 4: be explosive and dynamic in the passing game.

1238
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 3: I would lean on them now. I think in the postseason.

1239
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: The firepower or maybe some of the lack of firepower

1240
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 4: for the Patriots might catch up with them. I think

1241
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 4: their best position for the next five years, I would

1242
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 4: say the Bears are best position for right now.

1243
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: Right and I think the Bears are going to beat

1244
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: them in Green Bay today, I really do. I think

1245
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: momentum means a lot, and they have some good momentum

1246
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: going on right now.

1247
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 3: All right, there's a lot of talkie talkie.

1248
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: We'll see apparently what you don't agree, you think the

1249
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 2: package got this one?

1250
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 4: I mean to me, the packers of the team that

1251
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 4: will emerge as the Super Bowl favorite by the time

1252
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 4: we get to the end of the season, their office

1253
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: coming together, their defensive lights out.

1254
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 3: This is a big game though.

1255
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 4: To me, this would be one where we're gonna put

1256
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 4: the big hat on Matt Lafloor. Hey Man, Matt la

1257
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 4: Floor got personally challenged by a newbie coach, called.

1258
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 3: Out on the carpet in his initial presser.

1259
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: If you can't come up with a game plan to

1260
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 4: torch the Bears, that's on you. So I'm expecting the

1261
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 4: Green Beer Packers. They have a lot of emotion, a

1262
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 4: lot of venom, but better yet, a lot of execution

1263
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: as they kind of try and set the Bears straight.

1264
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: Okay, and we're going to talk about another team that's

1265
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: in that division right now, and that's the Minnesota Vikings,

1266
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: because I think everybody expected a lot of things with

1267
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: that ball club because they won fourteen games last year.

1268
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: But they allowed Sam Donald to leave in free agency

1269
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: and they turned over to JJ McCarthy, a first round

1270
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: pick in twenty twenty four, and he was on a

1271
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: cheap rookie contract, and by doing so, I guess the

1272
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings freed up a lot of money, millions of

1273
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: dollars and they spent it on the rest of their rosters.

1274
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: So what happens right now? They're foreign eight, they're fourign eight,

1275
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: and they host the three and nine Commanders right now.

1276
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 2: And the last time the Commanders won was on the

1277
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: COVID the fifth this year. So the Vikings had five

1278
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: turnovers and a loss to Seattle with four deceptions. And

1279
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: that was a funny loss because who's quarterback in Seattle?

1280
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: Their former quarterback for Minnesota. So the miscalculation of the

1281
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 2: Viking it was a dumb move. It really was. They dumb.

1282
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: Sam Donald. They turned their JJ McCarthy. He was cheap.

1283
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: They had money for the rest of the roster, and

1284
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: they spent something a three hundred million dollars on new contracts.

1285
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: Un last Sunday, Donald took it out on his former

1286
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: team twenty six nothing over the Vikings. Vikings really they're

1287
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: not the same team with that. They're not. And Seattle's

1288
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: nine to three, Vikings four and eight and Max Brosmer.

1289
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: Can you believe that Max Brosmer was quarterbacking the Vikings

1290
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: last week? It's amazing how the team went from fourteen

1291
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: wins and not gonna make the playoffs this year.

1292
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's tough, but I think everyone is

1293
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 4: romanticizing the Sam Donald thing. But I think when people

1294
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 4: are filling to realize he melted down at the end

1295
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: of the season last year, so everyone is saying like, oh,

1296
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 4: you have to give him all this cash.

1297
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: They should have brought him back. It was a no brainer.

1298
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 4: He played horribly the last two games of the season

1299
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 4: and the left for Mark. You know, you didn't see

1300
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 4: him play well against Detroit in the finale, and then

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Speaker 4: he looked he stubbed his toe against the Rams.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't a lot that you could take from that.

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00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: And as well as this going for Sam Donald noll,

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00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 4: there's still a bit of wait and see from what

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00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: he's going to do when it matters, because when they

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00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 4: played the Rams earlier.

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00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: He stunk. I mean, he just did. He's stunck against

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Speaker 3: the Rams. There's no respect for him.

1309
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 4: Maybe the Minnesota Vikings miscalculated and thinking that they would

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00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 4: be able to quickly get JJ McCarthy up to stump

1311
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 4: after he set out his rookie season with an injury,

1312
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 4: but look, they were gonna have to pay thirty five

1313
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: thirty three million dollars for Sam Donald. And do you

1314
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,479
Speaker 4: believe that he was going to replicate that, because remember

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00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 4: that's the only year that he's ever done that. He's

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00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 4: a bit of a one hit wonder. I understand why

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00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 4: people are mad. JJ McCarthy hasn't been available, and when

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00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 4: he has been available, he hasn't been consistent. Then, so

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01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 4: that gives you a little pause.

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01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 4: If it was the wrong move to move on from

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01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 4: Sam Donald when he hadn't really proven that he could

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01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 4: be the long term answer at the position.

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Speaker 2: But did you think that JJ McCarthy would be the guy?

1325
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: I mean, really and truly I did.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I I was a fan.

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Speaker 4: I was a fan of JJ McCarthy coming out of Michigan,

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01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: but I didn't expect them to put the weight of

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Speaker 4: the offense on him. To be fair, he's only played

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Speaker 4: in six games. He missed his entire rookie season.

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01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: Before was before the fans wanted a bench anyway, But

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01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: he didn't play because he was injured. Okay, he had

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01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: two interceptions and thlew for just eighty seven yards. That

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01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: was two weeks ago before. He didn't play that game.

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01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: I mean, so I think they're a problem now. They

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01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: don't know who the quarterbacks could be well.

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01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: I mean if they listened to the outside noise. If

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01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 4: you drafted J. J. McCarthy because you thought he was

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01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: gonna be good, then you don't waiver after six games.

1340
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 4: You give him a full opportunity to show you that

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01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 4: he can or can't play. But six games it's too

1342
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 4: soon to make a determination on whether a quarterback can play.

1343
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 4: Typically it takes thirty games to know whether a quarterback

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01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 4: can play. So this is going to be a test

1345
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Speaker 4: of Kevin mccar, Kevin O'Connell and everybody in that organization.

1346
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 4: Do you stand on what you believe in or do

1347
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 4: you allow the people in the cheap seats to sway you?

1348
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 4: Because if you listen to the people in the cheap seats,

1349
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 4: you end up sitting in there with them.

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01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: So you just got to be convicted.

1351
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 4: And you have to find a way to help this

1352
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 4: young quarterback play better than he's played before. That is

1353
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 4: on the coach. He has to ex and o it.

1354
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 4: He has to figure out how to manage it. But

1355
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 4: there's a way to get J. J. McCarthy to play

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01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 4: winning football.

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01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 2: Oh see what happens there? All right? It's sad news

1358
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: up there in Minnesota, But we move on, all right,

1359
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks. Get him on. Ex that Bucky Brooks.

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1363
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: at the end of this hour. But you're not gonna

1364
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: see this guy again.

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01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,800
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Speaker 2: All right, have you checked out these stats? Will? We

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Speaker 2: will in just about a minute. He is Bucky Brooks.

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01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,919
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01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,680
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01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

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01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: and you'll find today's full show posted right after we

1381
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: get off the air. Right, we'll do that, and of

1382
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: course coming up in about ten to twelve now will

1383
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: be the blame game. But right now, let's get into this.

1384
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: Let's get into the game that people are saying. Now,

1385
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: if they had it in my backyard, I closed the curtains. No,

1386
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: not really. There's a little bit of a storyline here.

1387
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: They got the Titans one and eleven in Cleveland against

1388
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: the Browns three and nine, and I guess the story here.

1389
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: The hype here is Shador Sanders against cam Ward. What

1390
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: happened to cam Ward this year? Number one draft pick?

1391
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: You know, he was really quiet going into the draft

1392
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: and he's been more quiet. Now, what's the deal? Is

1393
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: he gonna make it? Is cam Ward going to be

1394
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback?

1395
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: Uh? He'll make it.

1396
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 4: But like most young quarterbacks, I could take some time

1397
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 4: to adapt to the league.

1398
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 3: And he lost his head coach.

1399
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 4: Early in the year, and he's been playing under interim

1400
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 4: coach Mike McCarty Mike McCoy, and it hasn't it hasn't

1401
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 4: gone well, but he's learned a lot through the reps

1402
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 4: and the only thing that he can do is continue

1403
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 4: to try and challenge himself to get better. And better

1404
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 4: each week as they eventually supply him with more talent

1405
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 4: around him. But right now, it's been tough and it's

1406
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 4: been tough for him, just like all the other young

1407
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 4: quarterbacks are having a tough time figuring out how to

1408
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 4: play quarterback in this league, no.

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01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: Doubt about that. But the big story I guess in

1410
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: Cleveland right now is Shadua Sanders, all right, And the

1411
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 2: question I have is, Okay, you gout should do? And

1412
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm happy he's playing. He deserves it because there's no

1413
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: one really better right now on the roster except except

1414
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. Where's Deshaun Watson? Because the Brown's opened up

1415
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson's twenty one day practice window? And are we

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01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: ever going to see him on the center again in

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01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: the future or this year? And I have not? Why not?

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01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 2: Because he probably could be their best quarterback on their

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01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: roster and the Browns have it until Christmas week to

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01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: activate him on the fifty three man roster and he

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01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: could then be activated for the final two games of

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01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: the year. Are they gonna do it? Should they do it?

1423
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: Because who's a better quarterback on that roster than potentially

1424
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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson?

1425
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 3: I mean no one. And here's what I'll say.

1426
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 4: In Cleveland fans don't want to acknowledge that because the look,

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01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 4: the Deshaun Watson thing has been a disaster from the jump.

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01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 4: When it comes to them trading with a bunch of

1429
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 4: assets to bring them over, he hasn't performed well. He

1430
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 4: got hurt, you had the scandal that came with him.

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01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 3: All of that.

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01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 4: That said, when you're the Cleveland Browns and you look

1433
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 4: at the landscape, you look at what you have on

1434
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 4: your roster, which is Shudura Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, young quarterbacks

1435
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 4: trying to figure out. You look at the free agent

1436
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 4: market that is coming. You have Mac Jones, you have

1437
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, you have Tyrod Taylor and others. And then

1438
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 4: you look at the draft, where you have Mendoza.

1439
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 3: And a lot of question marks.

1440
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 4: You might be left with Deshaun Watson as your best

1441
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 4: option at quarterback. And people don't want to say this,

1442
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 4: but if you look at what's available, he could be

1443
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 4: the best option for the Browns and because of late,

1444
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 4: he's been so instrumental in trying to help Shdurah Sanders

1445
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 4: and Dylan Gabriel prepare.

1446
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 3: If I'm paying him.

1447
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 4: I might as well have him in the building and

1448
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 4: around the team and see if he can give us

1449
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,959
Speaker 4: something With a new coach. We assume that they gonna

1450
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 4: have a new coach, why not keep them around and

1451
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 4: see if there's something that can be selvish.

1452
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: Do you think you mentioned new coach? I mean, I

1453
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: think Stefanki is a heck of a coach, I really do.

1454
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 2: I don't think it's entirely his full but sometimes you know,

1455
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: coach has to go. Team's not winning, just just they

1456
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: want to change. I mean, but I think he's a

1457
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 2: good coach. The same thing goes to Minnesota. I think

1458
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: he's a whale of a coach in Minnesota. But Stefanski's gone.

1459
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: Is that you what you're hearing?

1460
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I just don't know how you can bring

1461
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 4: him back for the fans. I mean, I just know

1462
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 4: how to Who's gonna sign up, Like I just said

1463
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 4: in the previous segment, if you listen to the fans

1464
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 4: or whatever. But the difference is we're in the sports

1465
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 4: and entertainment business. Who is going to sign up to

1466
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 4: see the Browns roll out and run this back with

1467
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 4: Kevin Stefanski after two years in a row of bad ball.

1468
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 4: I just think it's a hard sale, you know. I

1469
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 4: know he's a two time Coach of the Year and

1470
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 4: those things. I just think it's a hard sale in Cleveland.

1471
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 4: And I'll be honest, some of the weird old stuff

1472
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 4: that is taking place in terms of not calling, not

1473
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 4: calling by name, like all of this other stuff, I

1474
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 4: think it's made it really really difficult to bring him

1475
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 4: back unless they go on a great run at the

1476
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 4: end of the year. I still don't see it, though.

1477
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 4: I think Kevin Stefanski has made it far harder than

1478
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 4: it needed to be in Cleveland. Not only would the Shawn,

1479
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 4: but we should him with everybody else that has played quarterback.

1480
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: There, all right, I hear what you say. Now, the

1481
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 2: question is will we see Deshaun Watson play in the

1482
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: last two games? Will they activated for the last two?

1483
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: I think they should. I mean, he basically has to

1484
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: be the future at quarterback for that team.

1485
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1486
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if they need to necessarily activate him

1487
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 4: to playing games. I think it's more so you want

1488
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 4: to see him in proud to see what he looks like,

1489
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 4: see the field, let him get his feet wet before

1490
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 4: he prepares to compete.

1491
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 3: For the job in the spring.

1492
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 4: He's the veteran presidence because I told you Daniel Jones,

1493
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 4: Mac Jones, who mac Jones is on the trade market,

1494
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, Tyrod Taylor, whatever. There is no one on

1495
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 4: the market that's gonna come say you as a veteran

1496
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 4: free agent.

1497
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 3: Nobody right, And I'm.

1498
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 4: Gonna tell you the twenty twenty sixth class that's special

1499
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 4: to me. Like people are talking about Mendoz But when

1500
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 4: I look at Mendoza last night, he's okay. I don't

1501
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 4: think he's number one pick worthy based on what I saw.

1502
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 4: He's a good college player. I don't think he's a

1503
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 4: game changer coming into the league. So when you weigh

1504
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 4: it against what the landscape is producing next year, you

1505
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 4: might as well keep him and see if he's a

1506
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 4: better option than any of the ones that are gonna

1507
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 4: come available.

1508
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 2: You talk about that contract, that contract was a major bust.

1509
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what that contract did. It opened

1510
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: the floodgates for all the quarterbacks in the National Football League.

1511
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 2: So every quarterback right now that gets his paycheck should

1512
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 2: thank Deshaun Watson because I'm the Cleveland Browns, because I

1513
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: think that was the beginning of the quarterback quarter the

1514
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: quarterback cash boom.

1515
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, but what it should have been was the

1516
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 4: guaranteed contract boom. But people didn't have the hangy downs.

1517
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 4: Second time I've used that in our show to stick

1518
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 4: with it. But they should have done that because when

1519
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson got a fully guaranteed contract at quarterback, the

1520
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 4: next quarterbacks that came after him should have all gotten

1521
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 4: guaranteed contract and it should have been a thing where

1522
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 4: then you begin to see the shift where they go

1523
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 4: from non guaranteed to fully guaranteed contracts at quarterback.

1524
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm looking at the schedule today and I think

1525
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 2: this could be one of the biggest games at least

1526
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: for this team. And I'm talking about the Kansas City Chiefs.

1527
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 2: The game is at home. The Chiefs believe it. Do

1528
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,839
Speaker 2: you think they'd be six and six after twelve games?

1529
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 3: I mean, really, I knew it was gonna be a

1530
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 3: market correction.

1531
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 4: I didn't expect them to be what they've been in

1532
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 4: terms of the heavyweight. At some point, age was gonna

1533
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 4: get them with Travis Kelce, the lack of development on

1534
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 4: the perimeter, their wide receivers not being what they wanted,

1535
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 4: them to be that would catch up with them, and

1536
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 4: it's called a haven't been Yeah, and they don't have

1537
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 4: a marquee running back, and that is really the thing

1538
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 4: that I'm glad you brought up, but people don't bring up.

1539
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 3: I know, we think about running backs as being interchangeable, disposable,

1540
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call them.

1541
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 4: We can find them anywhere, but man, you have to

1542
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 4: have a special one sometimes, particularly the way the league

1543
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,839
Speaker 4: is changing, they don't have anybody special.

1544
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm hearing you. They're hosting the use in

1545
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: text that was said Dallas. The Houston text is seven

1546
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: and five today, And you know it's funny. I like

1547
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 2: to go on this website called US sports pages dot

1548
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 2: com so I can read the sports pages of different

1549
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: newspapers across the country, and a couple of writers have

1550
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: written this, which I think is insane. But they said

1551
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,799
Speaker 2: it might be best for Kansas City to lose because

1552
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 2: they need to lose to get better draft picks. I mean,

1553
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't understand. I mean, I don't know what losing

1554
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 2: does for you. But you know, draft picks to me

1555
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 2: are a crapshoot. You know, you could have a high

1556
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 2: draft selection and really bomb out on a player. Now

1557
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Cincinnati. That was a no brainer. I

1558
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 2: could have drafted Joe Burrow. Anybody's gonna dravet Joe Borrow

1559
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: the number one pick, but it's picks two through whatever.

1560
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 2: You know that those are the keys, and sometimes they

1561
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 2: don't work out. So to lose to get a better

1562
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: draft pick, that's insane. You know, you just forget it.

1563
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: You gotta win. You gotta win what he got and

1564
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: do the very best you can and maybe go out

1565
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 2: and get something in free agency.

1566
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 4: I mean they can do that, but yeah, they're gonna

1567
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 4: have to hear the reset. They're gonna hear the reset button.

1568
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 4: But they gotta find a way to improve. They've they've

1569
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 4: committed resources to the offensive line, but they gotta find

1570
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 4: a running back because a dominant running back will make

1571
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 4: life easy for Patrick Mahomes. I would expect them to

1572
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 4: see if they can do something to give them that

1573
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 4: impact that they're lacking, because right now, Isaiah Pacheco has

1574
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 4: been hurt off injured, Kareem Hunt is nearing the end

1575
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 4: of his line. They just don't have enough juice in

1576
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 4: the backfield to change the way people will play against

1577
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes. They can't punish them for playing soft coverage,

1578
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 4: and until they're able to do that, they won't be

1579
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 4: able to deliver the explosive plays and the fireworks that

1580
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 4: we saw in the past.

1581
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: I am so happy you mentioned the running back position

1582
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: because it's so it's such a position that people think

1583
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: it's like a dinosaur, like the old full back position.

1584
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 2: But you don't have running back, I mean, you're in trouble.

1585
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: Certainly the quarterback is the key, but there running back

1586
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 2: basically could eat up the clock, and especially in bad

1587
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 2: weather when you really can't pass, it's a life saver.

1588
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,440
Speaker 2: And today you have a great running back in Buffalo

1589
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: with James Cook, and they're hosting the Cincinnati Bengals, and

1590
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: it kind of Bengals season is on the line every week.

1591
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: They're four and eight. They lose today, their playoff situation

1592
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 2: is done. Right now, the door is open. You can

1593
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 2: almost see a shadow, but Bills are eight and four.

1594
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 2: But you look at James Cook what he has done

1595
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: right now. He's got a career high with almost twelve

1596
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: hundred rushing yards one hundred and two point three rushing

1597
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,959
Speaker 2: yards per game per game, ranks fourth in the Buffalo

1598
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: team history, and he's now just a couple of touchdowns

1599
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: away from tying Fred Jackson, which is thirty for the

1600
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: fifth most touchdowns in Buffalo Bill's franchise history. I'm almost

1601
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: shocked how good he was. And I remember back in

1602
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,799
Speaker 2: August he was holding out. I was scratching my head, really,

1603
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 2: James Cook holding out? Look, he's strong. I mean talking

1604
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: about Jonathan Taylor, what he has done for the offense

1605
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, I think you could raise that up another

1606
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 2: notch with James Cook when he's done in Buffalo.

1607
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a great player, and they've done a really

1608
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 4: good job of doubling down on the running game to

1609
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 4: make sure that they can control the outcomes of games

1610
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 4: and to mass their biggest weakness, which is their defense.

1611
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 4: James Cook has been able to give them that inside outside,

1612
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 4: big play back who also can catch it out the

1613
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 4: backfield man.

1614
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 3: What's not to like about his game?

1615
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 4: Terrific player, and the more he becomes a factor on offense,

1616
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 4: the better the Bill's chances are of making a postseason run.

1617
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 2: Right, I tell you what, I had no idea. He

1618
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 2: talk about statistics, and I'm not a great statistical nump,

1619
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: but when it stands you right in the face, you

1620
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: got to say, Wow, I remembout Josh Allen. He has

1621
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: now more total touchdowns in his first nine seasons. I

1622
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 2: can't believe he's been there nine years already, in his

1623
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 2: first nine seasons than any quarterback ever two hundred ninety

1624
01:13:56,040 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: one touchdowns and counting. And he's still only in year eight.

1625
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: He's passed Russell Wilson. He's past Peyton Manning who had

1626
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 2: two eighty eight and nine, and entering this year with

1627
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: the most touchdowns by any quarterback through eight years in

1628
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 2: league history. Wow, that is tremendous. Really, I mean, you

1629
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 2: talk about the great quarterbacks in this league. I don't

1630
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: think he gets the respect he deserves. I mean, and

1631
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 2: maybe because I'm in the Midwest and you know, near

1632
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 2: Cincinnati with Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow to me and he

1633
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,480
Speaker 2: had a great deal list. Yeah, probably gets more accolades

1634
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 2: than Josh Allen does.

1635
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think there's a greater appreciation with Josh

1636
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 4: Allen now because we've seen him do the most with

1637
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 4: the least. You know, when you remove Stefan Diggs from

1638
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 4: the equation and you didn't really upgrade the wide receiver position.

1639
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 4: You see a player who's really having to do it all.

1640
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 4: And before we used to like rave about his running

1641
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 4: skills and his ability to be the one man show.

1642
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 4: But it's different now because he's being able to reign

1643
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 4: in some of the recklessness while still giving us that

1644
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 4: that fearless playmaking ability that we love to see from

1645
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 4: our quarterback as he carries the Buffalo Bills because we

1646
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 4: know that he's playing shorthanded with the team that he has,

1647
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 4: but as he carries them to victories, there's a greater

1648
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 4: appreciation for him being that guy that can elevate the

1649
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 4: people around him, no.

1650
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 2: Doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman. We

1651
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: of Fox Football Sunday a Fox Pastradio. By the way,

1652
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: it's never his fault. It's never her fault, is it?

1653
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 11: But the blame game is you're listening to Fox Sports

1654
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 11: Radio on the blame Game coming right up.

1655
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We are live from

1656
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. By the way, top of

1657
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 2: the hour, and that's twelve minutes from now, that'll be

1658
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 2: eight o'clock of the East Coast. Mike harmon the Swollen

1659
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: dorm and Greg Coast Cell will carry along right here

1660
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: on Fox Butrstradio. But right now it's time for the

1661
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: blame game. You ruin me.

1662
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. But isn't

1663
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: all your fault?

1664
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 9: Maybe it's everyone's fault, see the liar. That's why there's

1665
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 9: the blame game.

1666
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: The blame game.

1667
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: Let's figure out who to blame. Yeah, the playing game.

1668
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 2: Are you ready, Brandon, They're blame game. We're gonna blame.

1669
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 10: You, blame you, blame me, blame me? Uh I, So look,

1670
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 10: who's to blame here? Josh Allen wins MVP last year

1671
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 10: with virtually the same wide receiver corps, virtually the same

1672
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 10: his QBR is down thirteen points this year. Is it

1673
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 10: just an MVP hangover?

1674
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 3: What is it?

1675
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 10: Who's to blame for this situation? Because Joe Brady is

1676
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,839
Speaker 10: still gonna probably get head coaching interviews.

1677
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 2: Uh, you want me to go first, because I got

1678
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 2: the answer. It's very easy, it really is. It's not

1679
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 2: that difficult.

1680
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:44,799
Speaker 1: It's his wife.

1681
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: He just got married in the off season. He's got

1682
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: different things on his mind right now. Blame his wife.

1683
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 2: That's the problem. And they always say yes. They always

1684
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: say there's always a good woman behind the strong man. Well,

1685
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 2: you know what, though, she's brought him down. Maybe she's

1686
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 2: a good I don't know. But when you get married

1687
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 2: of additional responsibilities and Bucky, you're going to agree it's

1688
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: the wife. It's the marriage that bought his that's down.

1689
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 3: The wife to take his stats down. I would say

1690
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 3: that it's the lack of production around him.

1691
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 4: It's the lack of development that Ken Coleman and some

1692
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 4: others made on the perimeter that have robbed him of

1693
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 4: his big playability.

1694
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 3: He's still effective, he's still great.

1695
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,759
Speaker 4: I would say the people around him have not performed

1696
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 4: up to the standard.

1697
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: Well, the one that's around him is his wife. She's

1698
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: around him.

1699
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 3: I don't know. I saw her in Cinners. I would

1700
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 3: think that he would be motivated to play better. Isn't

1701
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 3: that worse? Well?

1702
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, nine nine of the last ten Super Bowl

1703
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 10: champions have been married the quarterbacks of those teams. The

1704
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 10: check the stats, No, it's one hundred percent. And Jalen

1705
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 10: Hurts got married the following month after that. Uh my

1706
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 10: next one, quickly, who's to blame with Lamar Jackson then?

1707
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 10: And is dropping QBR this year with the Ravens.

1708
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 3: Oh, they're just bad. I look, I think it's everything.

1709
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 4: I still am not in love with the design of

1710
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 4: the offense from Todd Munkt the offensive coordinator, the receivers

1711
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 4: and players are not being consistent. It looks it's a

1712
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 4: total failure in Baltimore. If they don't win today, like

1713
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 4: all bad in the charm City.

1714
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think they could blame his injury. Fact. I mean,

1715
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 2: he's not one hundred percent. I mean, none of these

1716
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 2: guys this time of the year one hundred percent. But

1717
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 2: he's really been banged up pretty good. So and I say,

1718
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: back off, Brandon, really and truly. You know, you're the

1719
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 2: new kid on the block. Take it easier. Lamar, he's

1720
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 2: my guy. I love him. He's from Kentucky, he went

1721
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 2: to the University of Louisville. I mean, come on, really,

1722
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: I love Lamar Jackson. And that's the end of the story.

1723
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 2: And they'll win today.

1724
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 10: Maybe eventually they'll win a Super Bowl too.

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01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 3: That'd be great.

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01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: Well, listen to you. That's a shot. Now, that's a shot.

1727
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 2: Who's your team? What is your team done?

1728
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 10: My team has not done anything. And since I've been

1729
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 10: alive in thirty years. It's the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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01:18:55,160 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 3: So thank you.

1731
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 10: I don't have anybody else to blame, all right, what's next?

1732
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 3: I don't know somebody to blame. There's to be somebody

1733
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 3: to blame. We can blame Andy for always. Did you

1734
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 3: know what, Andy?

1735
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 4: You didn't really bring up the Bengals today, which is

1736
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 4: a rarity, like normally you bring up something with Joe

1737
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 4: Burrow and the Bengals or whatever. Are you completely off

1738
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 4: the Bengals prospects of being a playoffs people?

1739
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 3: I can't.

1740
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: I can't talk about it because it makes my head spin.

1741
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 2: You got people in this city right now thinking they're

1742
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 2: going to go to the playoffs. They'd have to have

1743
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: they have to win every game down the road. Number one,

1744
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 2: Number two also get some help along the way. I

1745
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 2: don't see it happening. It'll be a mono miracle. Really,

1746
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: it really would be. They couldn't win today in Buffalo?

1747
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: They played twelve on eleven? How's that? How's that?

1748
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 3: Wow? You know what? I'm knowing all that?

1749
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 4: I think they win in Buffalo today. I think they

1750
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 4: win in Buffalo. They bring it back.

1751
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 3: I think I think you end up shouting in your

1752
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 3: bathroom today. Who day who? They say they're gonna beat them.

1753
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 4: I think you're gonna dance around and do the Icky

1754
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 4: shuffle because Joe Burrow is back and he's all they need.

1755
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 2: Well, I would say this, you know, and I've said

1756
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 2: this to people before. They talk about, you know, Joe

1757
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 2: Burrow being back. He was back last year. He had

1758
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 2: a tremendous season a year ago, a baddest season really,

1759
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 2: and they still don't make the playoffs. Okay, what I

1760
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 2: don't like about, right, But I don't like what I'm

1761
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: seeing this year. Trey Hendrickson, He's like, no way to

1762
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 2: be found. You can't find the guy with a search warrant.

1763
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: He doesn't even go to practice. He doesn't show up

1764
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 2: in the sideline for games. He wasn't there two weeks ago.

1765
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 2: Last week he was at the sideline for the game.

1766
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: But what's the deal? You know, are they hiding the guy?

1767
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: There's something going on with Trey Hendrickson. There's no doubt

1768
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 2: in my mind. And I understand that he's not happy

1769
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 2: with the contractual situation. Yeah, but come on, you're you're

1770
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 2: a captain, You're a copter in the team.

1771
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm a captain.

1772
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna give you exactly what captains do for

1773
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 4: the money that you're paying me.

1774
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 3: And you're not giving me what I deserve.

1775
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 4: So you don't give me big time money, you don't

1776
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 4: get big time effort, the effort.

1777
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 2: He doesn't even show up. I mean, it's not come on,

1778
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 2: you got you gotta show up. I mean it's not right.

1779
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's right. I really don't. Here

1780
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: we go anyway, have a great day, Brandon, Thank you

1781
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: so much as always for your help, and we'll see

1782
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 2: you next Sunday. Stay tuned for Krichellen Harmon on Fox

1783
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.