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Speaker 1: I think of the mets up podcast and finally, finally

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Speaker 1: we have some great things to talk about. We wax

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Phillies. I'm taking that term ology. We absolutely

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Speaker 1: wax them. It is an exciting day to be a

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Speaker 1: Like I said, today, we've got another great episode here

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Speaker 1: me and James talking Mets baseball, and it's it's positive.

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Speaker 1: It's finally positive. We really haven't had a chance to

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Speaker 1: have a positive episode since what like the first.

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Speaker 2: Couple Yeah, literally the off season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the off season was probably the last time we

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Speaker 1: were able to be We haven't been negative yet, but

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Speaker 1: it was also the first time we were able to

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Speaker 1: be positive.

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Speaker 2: Quite a time. Today we get to be bubbly where

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Speaker 2: we're a little loose.

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Speaker 1: We got the shoulders going, We're wearing our Alma maters

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Speaker 1: on our shirts. Happened to both be wearing red today,

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Speaker 1: which is just a weird coincidence. I think it's the

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Speaker 1: blood of our enemies that we just slayed this past

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Speaker 1: weekend because we had to show some love to the

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Speaker 1: Phillies destroyed and waxed, because that's what the wax did.

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Speaker 1: Wax them as low as we were feeling before. I'm back.

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Speaker 1: I'm back on the high.

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Speaker 2: I'm back on the high totally. It's crazy that we're

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Speaker 2: having another podcast on such a rainy, gray day over

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Speaker 2: here in the Northeast, but our mood and our winds

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Speaker 2: have just like absolutely catapulted us past the weather.

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Speaker 1: We strictly podcast on rainy days. When the Mets were

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Speaker 1: also supposed to have a game today and it ended

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Speaker 1: up getting rained out for what's going to be another

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Speaker 1: doubleheader at some point this year, which I think it's

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Speaker 1: a June June, Okay, at least it'll be nice then.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of these double headers. Even though we did

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Speaker 2: I like double Heather's doubleheaders are fun. Seven things, yeah,

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Speaker 2: well sending things a little weird still, it's like hard

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Speaker 2: watching the Mets for five straight hours. There's no better

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Speaker 1: Afternoon, little costly at the ballpark. I think we had

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Speaker 1: I was excited. It was good. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: starting pitching like Taiwan Walker. Let's just go game one, right,

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Speaker 1: Taiwan Walker, this guy continues to show us that he's solid.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't incredible solid? No, he had a very different start

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Speaker 2: Opening day, he was. Yeah, he uses like the more

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Speaker 2: Not jumping off the page, but just his rise to

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Speaker 1: Oswalt even got some starts. Just again, just think about

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Speaker 2: Oh definitely. And one thing I want, ever want to

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Speaker 2: That was the pitch that was more of his bread

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Speaker 2: and butther coming up as a prospect and as a

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Speaker 1: And he battled on Tuesday night as well, like he

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Speaker 2: Definitely, I agree with that, and I think that played

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Speaker 1: He's looking so good, man, Castro, that's your boy, that's

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Speaker 2: That's my guy. But we have to also talk about

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Speaker 1: Can't walk anybody as a really to begin with, especially

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Speaker 1: And I think Joe West was behind the box first game,

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Speaker 2: He was the star of the game.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Well everyone's there to watch Joe West. I

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Speaker 2: It's like, come on, Joe, come on.

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Speaker 1: Joe's age is fantastic. Yeah, everyone watches Joe West.

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Speaker 2: Well side story. It was a big day for Joe.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if a lot of people have been

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Speaker 2: base with one out, with give giving Landor a chance

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Speaker 2: just to make contact to win the game, you take

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Speaker 2: that shot, especially Lindor, who is made exclusively made contact

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Speaker 2: this entire season.

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Speaker 1: You don't think that they would have just intentionally walked

439
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Speaker 1: in door to get the bases loaded and then you

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Speaker 1: saw the chance. Or you're staying to take the chances

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Speaker 1: there one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred percent, and you have Dom Smith up, another guy

443
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Speaker 2: who makes lots of great contact. The guy we've been

444
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Speaker 2: talking about has been clutched since.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I just like, I don't I don't

446
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Speaker 1: like it.

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Speaker 2: It's so easy. I don't like if you out.

448
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Speaker 1: Either a run won the game. I understand that, but

449
00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,960
Speaker 1: they weren't losing if we.

450
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Speaker 2: Were if we were tied in the eighth inning of

451
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Speaker 2: a nine inning game, I would never ever vouch for this.

452
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Speaker 2: But you need exactly one run to win the game,

453
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Speaker 2: exactly precisely. Two runs does nothing this The guy in

454
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Speaker 2: first place doesn't even exist. Just get rid of them whatever,

455
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Speaker 2: pretend he's not there. Besides for the force out in

456
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Speaker 2: that situation, I've vouched for the butt.

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Speaker 1: And I'm I'm still sticking with a team no bunt.

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Speaker 1: It ended up not working out either way because like

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Speaker 1: they didn't get the runs, so I was wrong, but

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Speaker 1: they ended up winning, so I don't care that I

461
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Speaker 1: was wrong. But I want to know for the listeners

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Speaker 1: of yours at home. If you're on YouTube, you can

463
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Speaker 1: get in the comments section, or you can tweet us

464
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Speaker 1: at the mess Up podcast on Twitter at mess Up.

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Speaker 1: I want to know if your team bunt or team

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Speaker 1: don't bunt, so tweet us let us know what you're thinking.

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Speaker 1: I want to see the sides. We're taking a poll here.

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Speaker 1: I need to know what the viewers and listeners are

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Speaker 1: thinking because a little, a little bit of a debate

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Speaker 1: here going on.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to be misconstrued as being

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Speaker 2: a member of team Bunt. I never want to be

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Speaker 2: labeled a member of team Bunt ever in my life.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, in that situation, I would have bunted.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a team Bunt.

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Speaker 1: If you choose Bunt, ever your team Bunt, you either

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Speaker 1: you're You're either on the team or you're against. You

478
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Speaker 1: can't be can't be picking sides, you can't be whatever's

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Speaker 1: convenient to your conversation and art.

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Speaker 2: I'm team Bunt while tied as the home team with

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Speaker 2: a man on second and nobody out there, I'm Team Bunt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if I have enough characters to

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Speaker 2: put down a tweet. But that's the team Bunt I

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Speaker 2: am on.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. But yeah, let us know if

487
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Speaker 1: you guys are Team Bun or Team not Bunt. There

488
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Speaker 1: and uh back to the extra innings, because we were

489
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Speaker 1: talking about how electric they was talking about not walking

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Speaker 1: or walking Harper, which like we said, we both.

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Speaker 2: Hated and anything like that.

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Speaker 1: It didn't really matter, it didn't.

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Speaker 2: Know, it didn't uhh, But I guess I don't like

494
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Speaker 2: that move. I don't either. I get I see that

495
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Speaker 2: without JT. Real Muto in the lineup, and that being

496
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Speaker 2: followed by Boem Gregorius, right then real Muto, Bom Gregorious.

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Speaker 2: You don't want Harper to beat you, But I just

498
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Speaker 2: I hate putting free guys on base when you're in

499
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Speaker 2: a tie game, when especially when you're like Alec Boom

500
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Speaker 2: has not been killing the Mets, but he's been pretty clutch,

501
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Speaker 2: and it seems like he's gonna be a guy who's

502
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Speaker 2: a thorn our side for the next decade plus. I again,

503
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Speaker 2: it kind of worked out in a way, but I

504
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Speaker 2: just I don't like putting base runners on when there's

505
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Speaker 2: that much chaos already with the extra innings.

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Speaker 1: And which is crazy because I think in yours past

507
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Speaker 1: I would have said, but walk Harper in a heartbeat,

508
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Speaker 1: don't let Bryce Harper beat you. But now the Phillies

509
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Speaker 1: do have some more hitters. Where it was like Boom

510
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Speaker 1: can hit a home run, Dedie can hit a home run.

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Speaker 1: Not that I thought they were going to in that situation,

512
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Speaker 1: but the way things possible, yeah, the way things that

513
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Speaker 1: go for the Mets. Sometimes they go Okay, now it's

514
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Speaker 1: a three run deficit, instead of you know, especially like

515
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Speaker 1: you said, in extra innings, where that's it. It's basically

516
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Speaker 1: sudden death.

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Speaker 2: Now with how it works, Yeah, the way that the

518
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Speaker 2: extra inning rules are set up, you'd almost either be

519
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Speaker 2: the road team because when you can take that first

520
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Speaker 2: at bad, you can deliver a knockout punch. When Harper

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Speaker 2: was up, it was one No, a run wasn't in

522
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Speaker 2: yet they had it now it was just a man

523
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Speaker 2: a second one out correct. Yeah, So that that's just

524
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Speaker 2: crazy than me. Like that situation where Harper is not

525
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Speaker 2: exactly like he's not he's never gonna hit three hundred

526
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Speaker 2: like he's he's not. He's not really put the ball

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Speaker 2: in play kind of guy. He's a three outcome.

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Speaker 1: You gotta think about it too. You're basically putting because

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Speaker 1: you gotta assume, like, okay, you have a chance automatically

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Speaker 1: when you start that first sitting in extra intings to

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Speaker 1: put up two runs on the board with one swinging

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Speaker 1: the bat automatically by now putting Harper on for free.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's like to force the double play,

534
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Speaker 1: but again, Trevor May is not a ground ball pitcher anyway,

535
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Speaker 1: so it doesn't really matter. You're automatically giving yourself you

536
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Speaker 1: have to have three guys come to the plate kind

537
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Speaker 1: of thing.

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Speaker 2: Even though he did get ground balls, right, it's we

539
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Speaker 2: just couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like you you automatically have a chance

541
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Speaker 1: at two, you don't have a chance at three, and

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Speaker 1: you were giving the Phillies a chance to put up

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Speaker 1: three on the board right there. There's like no way

544
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Speaker 1: to really say it, but like it's like the classic,

545
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Speaker 1: like you don't put the tying run or the winning

546
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Speaker 1: run at the plate or whatever it is, whatever they're saying.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but like you were

548
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Speaker 1: essentially putting the winning run at the plate because the

549
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Speaker 1: Mets just physically couldn't do that with one swinging the bat.

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Speaker 2: To start, no for sure, And like I don't know

551
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Speaker 2: if May had like a really tough out against Hoskins

552
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Speaker 2: to start the inning and like you put a drive

553
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Speaker 2: into one or something more, but he diced up Hoskins.

554
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Speaker 2: He struck him out swinging like the stuff was working.

555
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Speaker 2: But like and then he even got bomed to pop out,

556
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Speaker 2: which like in that moment, that was crazy. And the

557
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Speaker 2: pass ball, the pass ball just killed them. Pass ball

558
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Speaker 2: with a number so to drive in a run that

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Speaker 2: I was just like, here we go again, more of

560
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Speaker 2: this bullshit from the first series, Like we're gonna lose

561
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Speaker 2: on some nonsense.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was down.

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Speaker 1: Fans were disgruntled. I had a lot of very angry

565
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Speaker 1: Mets fans behind me. Game one before we won, McCann stinks.

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Speaker 1: Conforido stinks, Lindor stinks, and I was like, whoa hold

567
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Speaker 1: on a second. You can play poorly, but to say

568
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Speaker 1: that a player stinks off of At the time, which

569
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Speaker 1: was what seven games insand or for the Mets, it

570
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Speaker 1: was five.

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Speaker 2: They were two and three, I'm not proud of it.

572
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Speaker 2: But they had the mcant tweet in the drafts. I

573
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Speaker 2: didn't send that's huge. I didn't send it. I didn't

574
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Speaker 2: send it. I had it typed out. I was like,

575
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Speaker 2: I'm not happy with this guy, but I kept it

576
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Speaker 2: in there. All the credit to me.

577
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Speaker 1: It was an interesting game for the Mets. Uh yeah,

578
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Speaker 1: let's just talk about our offense. At the end of

579
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Speaker 1: that game, too, really spoke up.

580
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Speaker 2: We finally woke up. All we needed was a free

581
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Speaker 2: guy in second base.

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Speaker 1: I guess Game one was when uh Conforta got hip

583
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Speaker 1: by Alvarado, right.

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Speaker 2: That was Game one. That was just saying that was

585
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Speaker 2: the fifth ending, the sixth inning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, if it's not Game one, I'll edit out,

587
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Speaker 1: but if it is, you're gonna continue to hear.

588
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Speaker 2: No, it was game one, Okay.

589
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Speaker 1: I like I especially when Don got on the top

590
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Speaker 1: step it was getting loud. I felt like that was

591
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a wake up moment. I felt

592
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Speaker 1: like it was a little wake the sleeping bear, like,

593
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Speaker 1: all right, you want you want to know, we need something.

594
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Speaker 1: We needed something to get us going. Rojas isn't gonna

595
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Speaker 1: be the guy.

596
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Speaker 2: He wasn't going anything like as much on TV. Don

597
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Speaker 2: was the guy in this step. I think mccam was

598
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Speaker 2: drawing too, which as the catcher, you love to see that,

599
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: love it, love it. But yeah, and then we just

600
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Speaker 2: got up in the ninth. We just started hitting the

601
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Speaker 2: freaking ball a lots of that first yeah, lace the

602
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Speaker 2: first that bat lacing a single, crushed it off the bat.

603
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Speaker 2: It was over one hundred, one hundred five miles an hour.

604
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Speaker 2: McNeil busted for a field's choice that preserved the entire

605
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Speaker 2: your ending. That was here just twice. D D kind

606
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Speaker 2: of took it in between hop and screwed up a

607
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Speaker 2: double play this.

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Speaker 1: Series, terrible shortstop defensively.

609
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not very Keith. Keith was ragging on him.

610
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Speaker 2: He was like, does he does he not trust a girl? Like,

611
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: what's he doing? That's just the wrong play. I just funny.

612
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Speaker 1: I love to talk about how average D is in

613
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Speaker 1: the grand scheme of shortstops and it gets people. So

614
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Speaker 1: but he's not good at the field and he just

615
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Speaker 1: hits home runs. That's kind of it. But that's not

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Speaker 1: why they lost the game. Anyway. They lost the game

617
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Speaker 1: because Jonathan VR, of all people, steps up to the plate.

618
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Speaker 1: Smokes from the left field, and he stepped up and

619
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Speaker 1: I went, oh god, man, Vr, I'm tired of watching

620
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Speaker 1: this guy hit. He's too.

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Speaker 2: We were texing, we were texting about it. I was like,

622
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Speaker 2: a strike out, You're like for sure, no doubt. Yeah,

623
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Speaker 2: never mind.

624
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Speaker 1: Boom shows shows us, fuck you Mets podcast, you no

625
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: shit about me? No listen, I'll take it. I'll be wrong.

626
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Speaker 1: Good Win. Mets needed that.

627
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Speaker 2: Great guys we can tell so carried into game two.

628
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's a fucking stro show. Baby.

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Speaker 1: Stroman's good. Man's good. So he's so really good and

630
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Speaker 1: like the chip on his shoulder thing now is is

631
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Speaker 1: even better because it's like he's.

632
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Speaker 2: Shoving definitely we oh. I think a lot of people

633
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: around baseball kind of forgot how good he was. He

634
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: was in that like upper echelon of American League pitchers

635
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: for a couple of years with the Blue Jays before

636
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic in the ACL which he had

637
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: some knee problems. He had some more problems, but he

638
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: looks true to form right now, really.

639
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Speaker 1: Sharp, really sharp. I didn't see the like Miles Brower

640
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: on all his you know, fastballs and stuff, but it

641
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Speaker 1: looked like it was coming out pretty good.

642
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: No, yeah, everything was good, Miles narrow wise, he again,

643
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: this was kind of the reverse of Taiwan, where he

644
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 2: was more we contact this game rather than with some strikeouts,

645
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: which is generally more of his game. I think he's

646
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 2: wanted to become the strikeout guy for a couple of

647
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Speaker 2: years now because he sees the impending free agency and

648
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: he knows how and why people get paid. Of course,

649
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Speaker 2: he he really really bumped up his singer usage in

650
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Speaker 2: the start, much more so than Game one, which is

651
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Speaker 2: that's his bread and butther, even though he was getting

652
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: many more whiffs with his four seamer and then his uh,

653
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 2: his color slyder, the slother for the people at home,

654
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: the slother in between a color and this either And

655
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: Savant doesn't really know how the layer them up sometimes

656
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: so he says both even though they have similar break

657
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: But again, whatever's working is working, and that was we

658
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: had a ground ball day, and he had a great

659
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: ground ball day.

660
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he looked really sharp. He's at the

661
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: point for me now where he goes on the mound

662
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: and I feel really really good about every single game

663
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: with him on the mound. I go, this is a

664
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: game we're gonna win. It's not like we should win,

665
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: it's a game we're gonna win because if he pitches

666
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: like this, they're just simply not going to be able

667
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: to score a lot of runs while he's in the game.

668
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: And we know with this Mets offense, when they are clicking,

669
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: which they've started to a little bit more recently, it's

670
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: going to be hard to beat them if you only

671
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: score three runs.

672
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: The clicking began extra innings of that game, probably honestly

673
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: in the seventh inning when the Mets had the rally

674
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: in game won. But the layer innings here and the

675
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 2: Mets start to get to Nola. He just was there

676
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: was There were no easy at bats. The Mets fouled

677
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: seventeen pitches off on Aaron Nola in five inning. The

678
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: bottom of the orders who got it done, McNeil, Polar,

679
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: VR and Nido are five, six, seven to eight hitters

680
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: all score the run, almost all of them driven in

681
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: by Brandon Nemo of course, but yeah, that's huge, Like

682
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: to see those guys is doing it and then the

683
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: rallies to continue past the pitcher, which is crazy. That's amazing.

684
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: That's a full team win.

685
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: We talked about it. I think in our last time

686
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: we talked about the Phillies. Mets are really starting to

687
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: figure out Nola and I'm starting to wonder is he

688
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: becoming predictable? Is his stuff not snap again? Couldn't watch

689
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: it on TV, but it just looked like no. It

690
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: looked like everyone was very comfortable and looked like no

691
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: one was fooled at all.

692
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 2: We talked about this or I mentioned it the podcast

693
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: we did right before opening day after the NET series,

694
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: and I've been tweeting about it a little bit. But

695
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: Nola was one of the players who complained the most

696
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: about the new ball in twenty nineteen, and there's more

697
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: evidence coming out every single day that this ball again

698
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: has been altered in ways that we cannot figure out.

699
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: But seemed like for Nola, guy who generally lives on

700
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: the edge and succeeds with command, he just was getting

701
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: either the heart of the plate or it was a

702
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: pitcher you could spit on. And he's not gonna be

703
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: effective in that way. And twice the Mets have done

704
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: this to him, They've chased him. He hasn't touched sixth

705
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 2: inning yet against the Mets.

706
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: And I think I saw him sitting in like ninety one,

707
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 1: ninety two. That feels a little low for him. It's

708
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: a little low for him. But Chilli evening was really cold,

709
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: really quickly, can say that for sure. I just I

710
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: love seeing the Mets play good baseball. And we saw

711
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: that for about eight seven eight innings, you.

712
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: Know, almost almost the whole game, almost the.

713
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: Whole game, almost the whole game. Is it was really good,

714
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: really good to see them playing well. They seemed like

715
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: a little weight got lift off their shoulder a little bit,

716
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: playing a little bit more loose, especially Game two, like okay,

717
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: we're this is us, this is our game.

718
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: No, they were damn and they were failing that. And

719
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 2: I think a guy like VR stepping up like that

720
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: takes the weight of the shoulders off everybody else. We've

721
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: been very hard that Jonathan VR.

722
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: But hand we were hard on him though, because we

723
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: don't want him playing every single day. We're like, he's

724
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: great in the spurts, flashing the pan, pinch hitter.

725
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: And like the fact that I like, I kind of

726
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: like when managers do this where he had that big

727
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: hit in game one and they just parlayed them right

728
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: into Game two. Get back in the lineup, Get right

729
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: out there, kid.

730
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: It made no sense because, of course the Stroman ground

731
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: ball pitcher.

732
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, during that half hour, I was like, why

733
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: in the world is you or may not pitching? I

734
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: can't believe this. Then once he had the RBI double,

735
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you good leave out there. The one

736
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: qualm I had with this game was the weird situation

737
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: with Stroman.

738
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: We in the seventh Yeah, so I don't know if

739
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: you saw we actually have an answer for this. Stroman

740
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: came out and he said, and I'll try to find

741
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: the tweet and put it down there. But he said

742
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: something along the lines of his plan was to go

743
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: out and pitch the seventh, but because it was such

744
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: a long inning, he just stayed out on the basis

745
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: because he's probably one of their better base runners to

746
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: begin with anyway, dude's so freak athletically. But he came

747
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: back in, he was cold. They didn't like how much

748
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: downtime he had. I think it was about thirty forty minutes,

749
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: and they were like, you know what, we have a

750
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: way to end this game. We've got a decent lead

751
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: where we can give it to Familion and we don't

752
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: feel too bad. That was what the whole conversation basically was,

753
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: was that it was planned for him to come in

754
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: for the seventh and pitch, but because of the break

755
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: and the fact that they didn't want to just use

756
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: another guy as well to run and just waste burn

757
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: another guy, Stroman was like, I was so cool with Ryan,

758
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: Like I'm fine with you, Like, please don't take shots

759
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: at Rohaus. We love this guy. We play hard for him.

760
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Not his fault. This was the plan. Here's what happened.

761
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that toom Glad you told me that,

762
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: because that makes way more sense. You could see him

763
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: also on the base pass when he was on third,

764
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: he was like jumping and stretching. He's like he's trying

765
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: to stay warm. It's like, I get that. But it

766
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: was so big that he gave us length because after

767
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: burning Castro, Diaz and May, Castro and May, he's throwing

768
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 2: over twenty pitches, like none of those guys are available

769
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: in game two, and.

770
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: You can't really throw Diaz again after that.

771
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: No, I mean, he threw ten bitches and he looked electric,

772
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: but it would be difficult to pull that kind of

773
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: adrenaline two times in one day and you just burn.

774
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: Him then for the rest of the series two kind

775
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: of things. So it was it was really nice that'd

776
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: give us that length, and we got a big enough

777
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: lead where we could have Jerry's familia come in and again,

778
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: while he didn't have a clean inning, he still got

779
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: does he ever, He's he never will, he never will.

780
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: But he also gets so screwed with the amount of cheap,

781
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: little shit hits that go up against Hi.

782
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, sinkerballers, man, that's all that happens with sinkerballers, Like

783
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: that's it. But the fact that he's been good, fine

784
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: as our fourth string reliever, awesome, awesome, awesome.

785
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 1: That's all we can ask for. He's no longer our

786
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: set up, our closer or seventh thinning guy. Even him

787
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: being effective as our fourth and he will be our

788
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: fifth option at some point that's huge.

789
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: Definitely, he's part. He's part of the bat team, and

790
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: you need to have a good beat team because we're

791
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: playing every day this baseball.

792
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: And then Game three, what a performance at David Peterson.

793
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

794
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: This is the Peterson game. Definitely, this was it.

795
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: He looked really really sharp ten K's, which he's not

796
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: a strikeout guy, He's not a swing and miss guy

797
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: like that. Ten K's was kind of surprising, especially against

798
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: the Phillies lineup that destroys left handed pitching and really

799
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: roughed him up the other day when he made a

800
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: start against them in a week.

801
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: Crush him the other day, and crushed him last year.

802
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: Like you figure, there's always kind of like a di

803
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: echonomy of the argument where it's like the hitters have

804
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: seen a guy, so they're gonna hit him better, but

805
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: the pitchers have also seen the hitters, so they might

806
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: have different scattering reports in their weaknesses. People always kind

807
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: of use that to fit their own narratives. So we're

808
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: gonna do the same right now. And Peterson. Peterson's got

809
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: used to the Phillies. I guess he saw some holes.

810
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: It worked.

811
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: He was attacking. He was attacking the zone, and he

812
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: wasn't just living on the outside part of the zone,

813
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: which I always say, like, I hate it, especially against

814
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: the Phillies who will just take the ball to the right field.

815
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: Guys like Hoskins and Boem don't care. I love seeing

816
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: him come inside. He looked really, really strong, and again

817
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: he gave us a really really good start that we need.

818
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: What do he goes?

819
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: Six? Seven, seven innings?

820
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: He went six innings, not seven, okay.

821
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: Six, that's even better though, six innings, ten strikeouts, It's

822
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: really good.

823
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: Little factoid. Peterson became the seventh Met lefty ever to

824
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: have ten strikeouts and no walks in the start. That's incredible,

825
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: the last one. You want to hear, the last Met

826
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: to do that, and you want to be shocked for

827
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: a second.

828
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: Give me this out again so I can try and guess.

829
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: You want to guess. Sure, I'll even give you two.

830
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: The seventh Met lefty ever to have ten strikeouts and

831
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: no walks in a start.

832
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Johann would be one of my guesses.

833
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: He's not the last one, though, he's not the last one.

834
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so it comes out.

835
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: I'm guessing the last one. Yeah, I didn't do enough

836
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: research to find everyone. Okay, it was between Johan and

837
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: David Peterson.

838
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: Between Johanna and David Peterson.

839
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: John nice, No, but good guess that's who it would

840
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: have been too. You want to hear this name, Chris Capuano.

841
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: Chris Capuano. That was the guy my dad always wanted

842
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: the Mets to get. They got him, and he was Okay.

843
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: Pais on good, good New York. But yeah, he's the

844
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: last Met lefty toy have ten strikeouts, no walks in

845
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: out And he did in a random day game in

846
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: like August or something too.

847
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: Or only ever pitched day games. He never got a

848
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: night game. He's like, he's like the college pitcher. You're

849
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: the weekday pitcher. You don't pitch on the weekend.

850
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, bad eyes can't see at night? No, I can't see.

851
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: That's crazy though.

852
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: Chris Capuano, I honestly would have never guessed had a

853
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: good start with the Mets.

854
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: No, never think this was probably just about the only one.

855
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, that just goes to show, like, really good start,

856
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: really really good start, they're just not a lot of

857
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen often for the Mets. The other start

858
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: of the game, James McCann, my boy finally broke out.

859
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: He went from him.

860
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: I think he's up to two eighty three now, which

861
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: just goes to show again, five six games, people stop

862
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: saying these guys stink. A good night changes everything. He

863
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: went from being he's asked, so I'm sure that the

864
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: same guy who's behind me saying he stinks goes man,

865
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: he's a really good catch. They got a great signing

866
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: in this guy.

867
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: And it's like his average jumped up over one hundred

868
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: points in one game.

869
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: How did he do it?

870
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: I love the t The ten game samples are the best.

871
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, it's almost like he only has thirty

872
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: at bats, especially like and he got his home run

873
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: off Jojo Romero, which he destroys the tended pitching. And

874
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: it's good to see that the power has been there

875
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: because he really, even in spring, didn't hit for much powers,

876
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: a lot of singles, a lot of gap shots, and

877
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever gonna be you know, a

878
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: thirty home run guy. He's never trying to be.

879
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: No, I don't even know if he'll ever be a twenty.

880
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: You sit him in that fifteen range over a season

881
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: with the defense that he's been playing, and he really

882
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: does do a great job behind the plate handling the pitchers.

883
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: I think that's a huge thing with our starting pitchers

884
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: that were not giving enough credit to is how well

885
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: he does catch a game back there.

886
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: Oh, for sure, him on the receiving end of these

887
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: pitchers is having an impact. For sure. The pass ball

888
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: on Tuesday afternoon, that sucked, but that was like a

889
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: free thing. He just got calm between like he was

890
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: gonna he was gonna catch it over. He ended up

891
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: catching on to hit the heel bounced away.

892
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: It happens, and for a long those you have to remember,

893
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: like there have been some blocks that he's made. We're like, damn,

894
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: he saved your run or he saved a base run

895
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: of going to the next space. So, like I said,

896
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna even out. It's fine, nothing to worry about.

897
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: But I'm really glad to see him like breaking out.

898
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: I think he was a guy who could tell was

899
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: pressing a little bit. He'd had some at bats where

900
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: he's swinging out of his shoes, trying to do a

901
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: little too much.

902
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: He didn't. He did not look very good before yesterday.

903
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: That's in spring. But I was really happy to see

904
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: him get some hits. He's a guy that A like,

905
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: guy have been high on for a while, guy that

906
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: like I was very excited when we signed. I know

907
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: we all want real Muto, but I was like, this

908
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: guy's good. I'm telling you I was.

909
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: I was. I was moderately excited. We've had some arguings

910
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: about this. Maybe midyear, if anything ever comes up, we'll

911
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: talk about it again.

912
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 1: But just think again, like, and this doesn't help, because

913
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: Wilson Ramos is playing out of his goddamn mind right now.

914
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: Legal one six, which what he hit six all of

915
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: his entire Mets career. That's not fair.

916
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 2: I think he had he had either nineteen or twenty

917
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: his entire tenure with the Mets. I'm gonna double check

918
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: this right now to get it exact.

919
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: This is the thing that Ramos always does, and it's

920
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: not Wilson Ramos podcast. But just to go back to

921
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: my point, he goes on like a week stretch where

922
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: he just doesn't stop hitting home runs, he just goes off,

923
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: and I think that's what we're seeing right now. But

924
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: back to my whole point, we have had such a

925
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: whole differ for a catcher defense Like, defensively, he's fantastic

926
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: compared to what we've had, and offensively, if we can

927
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: get anything, that's a plus. He's gonna be hitting eight

928
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: for us out of the eight hole as long as

929
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: he is not literally getting out every single time and

930
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: playing the defense he has behind the plate, that's gonna

931
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: help the Mets team so much so, I'm I'm really

932
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: glad to see him at least break out of that

933
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: slump a little bit hopefully.

934
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: But again, like you just said, getting any positives from

935
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: him at the plate is a plus. He's here for

936
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: his defense, his management, his demeanor, his like, his energy.

937
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: That's what they signed him for. Is that worth ten

938
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: million dollars? That's neither hear nor there. But again, seeing

939
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: him get the bat in the ball yesterday, put a

940
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: couple of balls in play hard, that's awesome. That's great.

941
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: And another new acquisition as well, had another big day yesterday.

942
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: Can we get a loop there?

943
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: It is?

944
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: I thought that sweet he was gonna kill I think

945
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: you have the problem of I think every single Mets

946
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: fan also tweeted Loop there it is, so yeah, you

947
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: probably read about that he was going to kill of

948
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: course tweets.

949
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how much faith I'm gonna have in

950
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 2: him all year, but yesterday he just did his job.

951
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: He got the lefties out. That's what we need a lot.

952
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good lefties in this division and

953
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: Aaron Lup is going to need to get him them out.

954
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: That's it. Anything else, stay in the bullpen, Aeron Loop.

955
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: You don't even have to show up if we're not

956
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: playing a team that has a good left handed hitter,

957
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: or just stay home.

958
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: And he just got He's got a very opportunistic ground ball.

959
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: Thank god. If that ground ball is five feet to

960
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: the left or five feet to the right, we're having

961
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: a very different conversation right now.

962
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent. He got lucky a win, as

963
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: we've been saying. And of course Diaz with the trumpets.

964
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: I think the trumpets. I think that walkout song. We've

965
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: now both been in the stadium while he's had freaking

966
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: awesome shout out to Clem of barstool because he's the

967
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: guy who kind of put that song on the map

968
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: about like this is the as song and apparently and

969
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: it's it's electric. And let me tell you, even with

970
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: like the eight thousand people in the stands, everybody's getting up,

971
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: you can't help but stand and dance a little bit

972
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: to the song.

973
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: I never ever thought I would hear Gary Cohen under

974
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: the phrase blaster jacks and which is one of which

975
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: is which of the artists who behind that song? But

976
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 2: the first time for everything, I guess yeah.

977
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: I mean, like that ship slaps, it goes hard and

978
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: I think hard. What am I gonna bring up right

979
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: now about Diz? Come on, you know what I'm gonna

980
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: bring up?

981
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: Get to it.

982
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic. He loves the energy, he lives, he

983
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: loves the excitement. He's a dude who needs a little

984
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: chaos going there. He needs he needs some noise, he

985
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: needs a little bit of a little bit of craziness

986
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: going on.

987
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: Mark's a bigger fan of the World Baseball Classic then

988
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: the ambassador to Japan. No one else cares more about

989
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic those two people.

990
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: I love the Baseball Classic and I loved how Edward

991
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: he has pitched in there. And I think when you

992
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: play that music, everyone's jumping and getting loud. He gets

993
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: back into that zone and he's filthy.

994
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: And he's shown it with the take, with a freaking take.

995
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: Put that in the books. That's gonna be the highlight

996
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: for the Instagram video. And when Diaz feels like he's

997
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: in the World Baseball Classic, when he hears Blaster Jackson

998
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: Timmy trumpets's why he's been pa They gotta have when

999
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: the stadiums full again. We gotta have a night where

1000
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: the trumpet. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's maybe that's what

1001
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: our first merchandise can be. Maybe we sell some pasta

1002
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: wuzelas with our logo on the side of it.

1003
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: Some trumpets, yeah, some mets stup trumpets. I'm thinking I

1004
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: like that. Like the business, mind going, I always keep

1005
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: it going. We also, we can't continue to move through

1006
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: this episode without talking about Brandon Nemo.

1007
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we're done talking about the games now.

1008
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: Now we're to the two guys that we want to

1009
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: focus on the most. But the first speaking Nemo.

1010
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: Oh my god, brand Nemo is the highest on base

1011
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: percentage in baseball right now. He he gets, like Mark

1012
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: said before, he gets on base more than he gets out.

1013
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: That's disgusting, that's gross. You should not that shouldn't be allowed.

1014
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: You should be put thrown in jail for that kind

1015
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: of behavior. He has the same amount of walks of strikeouts,

1016
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: which a guy who has struggled with strikeouts before. He

1017
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: made some major gains in twenty twenty to get that

1018
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 2: get swing right man, goodt on there, love it freaking great.

1019
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: Saw a stat yesterday during the broadcast too. He is

1020
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: the fifth highest on base percentage in baseball since the

1021
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 2: start of twenty eighteen. That's shocking.

1022
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: What's crazy is his numbers have like especially like on

1023
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: base percentage WRC plus, like you put them amongst players

1024
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: in baseball. He's been really, really good even without this year,

1025
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: Like he's just been a great offensively. He has always

1026
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: been and I'm gonna say it elite offensively since he's

1027
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: really gotten playing time with the Mets.

1028
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: The big joke on Twitter right now is people calling

1029
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: brand Nemo a fourth outfielder, because there's lots of people

1030
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 2: on Twitter have been calling him a fourth outfielder for years.

1031
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: Anyone who's ever called Brandon a fourth outfielder, Seriously, you

1032
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: should be shot to the moon.

1033
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: You could say that like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen time.

1034
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: That's fine, I guess, but anyway, I mean that would

1035
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: the last three years, if you've said those words out

1036
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: of your mouth, you're an idiot. That was twenty fifteen,

1037
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen time we tried to trade brandon Nimo for

1038
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: Jay Bruce, and then and then when we still got

1039
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: Jay Bruce, we gave him thirty six million dollars to

1040
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: make for sure brandon Nimo wouldn't start. It's unbelievable, you know,

1041
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: he's he's so good, like he's just I don't know,

1042
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: there's really I can't sick.

1043
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: He's really good at baseball.

1044
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: Make the words, but he's just he's really improved. He's

1045
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: been good. But I think he's only getting better and

1046
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: really starting to see it this year, Like he gets

1047
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: up there and he just knows exactly what's gonna happen.

1048
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: It feels like we're getting to a time now where

1049
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: especially it gets increasingly less likely that Michael can for

1050
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: the remains long term, where we should be opening up

1051
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 2: extension negotiations with a Brandon Neimo. Yeah, define, this guy

1052
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 2: is an athlete. He's a hitter. His even his play

1053
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: in center field this year, dare I say has been adequate,

1054
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: which is a step up from poor, which is where

1055
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: he used to be.

1056
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: If he's gonna be a lead offensively, be adequate defensively

1057
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: at least. The Mets this year have been very good

1058
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: limiting fly balls, which has helped Brandon Neimo's advanced stats

1059
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: be above average OUTAA on stack cast. It's good, it's

1060
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: not great. You could take whatever your take on it.

1061
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: That's fine, but the Mets have allowed the second few

1062
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: as flyballs and all of baseball this year. That will

1063
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: change when Cindergarden and Carrasco come back into this rotation.

1064
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: Those are both primarily flyball guys. But when you're not

1065
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: allowing a lot of fly balls, it's pretty good that

1066
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: you have a board defensive outfield.

1067
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: There's a reason people get so enthralled good word with

1068
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: launch angle, and it's because when you hit the ball

1069
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: in the air, you tend to get better outcomes. The

1070
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: Mets are limiting the ball in the air. That's why

1071
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: they're pitching is doing so well. Partially in reason.

1072
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 2: Definitely. There was a good twitther thread a couple months

1073
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: ago during the offseason from one of the one of

1074
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: the head guys at Drive Line Baseball Academy where he said,

1075
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: would you rather get a swing and miss or a

1076
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: ground ball? And there was a great conversation with a

1077
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 2: lot of brilliant baseball minds that exist all over Twitter,

1078
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: and it's very it's a very interesting question because you

1079
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: could almost never get killed with a ground ball. Ground

1080
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: Balls become a like, to a degree lucky based on

1081
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: your shifting your defense just if at ball finds a

1082
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: hole or not getting that at this many ground balls

1083
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: is awesome, especially with how good our defensive endfield is now,

1084
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: which is it could transition us to the second guy

1085
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about who's playing great baseball, Francisco Lindor.

1086
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: And like people are gonna say, like great baseball, he's

1087
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: hitting two twenty three and he has no ps below

1088
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: six fifty or whatever it is right now. But this

1089
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: is a guy you gotta dive a little deeper into

1090
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: the numbers and you gotta understand he's common. He's common.

1091
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: He's been getting more hits too recently.

1092
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 2: He's doing things at the plate right now that are

1093
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: unfreaking believable. He is walking a ton more than he's

1094
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 2: striking out more than three times more, and he's striking

1095
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 2: out so far that's you. You almost cannot you cannot

1096
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 2: fail as a baseball player. If that continues, he will regress, sure,

1097
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: but his whiff rate right now is better than ninety

1098
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: nine percent of players in the league. He's not swinging

1099
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: at bad pitches. He's just he's just he's looked so

1100
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: in commanded the play. He's just not finding the gaps.

1101
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: He's not making the perfectly solid contact that used to

1102
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: him making consistently. But he has gotten that max ex

1103
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: vlosity already into the top ten percent of the league.

1104
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: He's put the ball in one hundred twelve miles an hour.

1105
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: More of that is to come once he gets more comfortable.

1106
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: If he can retain these games and play discipline that

1107
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: seems like he's made, and also just the benefit of

1108
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: hitting in a much stronger lineup than he ever has

1109
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: in his career, there's gonna be a hot streak coming,

1110
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: and a weekend in Colorado is a great way to

1111
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: push you into a hot streak.

1112
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, weekend in Colorado could really help out the guys

1113
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: like the Mets, But it's also a series that I'm

1114
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: just not looking forward to.

1115
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm upset. I said a hot streak in

1116
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: Colorado cause I'm trying to be positive, but this actually

1117
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: looks like gonna be a disgusting two days in Colorado.

1118
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: Notes the notes say snow and cold. What the fuck?

1119
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: That's what our notes say, because I think right now

1120
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: the like forecast is sub thirty degree temperatures.

1121
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: And now this Saturday first pitch, Saturday is supposed to

1122
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: be throwing the high twenties.

1123
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, sick, that's discussed. And there's snow coming as well.

1124
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, for two days, it's Denver. It's Denver in April,

1125
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: Denver in April. We usually play this Rocky series in August.

1126
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: We usually get a nice three games in Colorado. When

1127
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: nice four games in Arizona, we hit the piss out

1128
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: of the ball. We come back to City Field winning

1129
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: five out of seven. That's how this always goes.

1130
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: How in God's name did Major League Baseball, first off,

1131
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: give the Rockies this many home games to start the

1132
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: season off in April? And then how are you having

1133
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: a team from the East play the Rockies at home

1134
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: in April? If anything, the Rocky should be coming here

1135
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: at the absolute worst. There is no world where the

1136
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: met should be playing the Rockies in April, and this

1137
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: leads us to the next thing. Because of the rain

1138
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: now today, Jacob de Gram is starting tomorrow in Colorado,

1139
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: and I don't want him on the mound at all.

1140
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: I want Jacob de Gram honestly, I don't even want

1141
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: to get on the plane.

1142
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: Oh, keep him in New York.

1143
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: I want keep him bundled up in his apartment or

1144
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: his house wherever he lives, an extra sweatshirt on or something,

1145
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: maybe a Beanie hat. I don't want this guy to

1146
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: be cold for a moment.

1147
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: No, I don't want him to step foot in Colorado.

1148
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: Because here's what the positive is. You get out of

1149
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: the Mets pitching Jacob Graham in Colorado. You beat the Rockies.

1150
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: Guess what you should be able to beat the Rockies. Honestly,

1151
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: with anybody that the Mets have on their pitching staff

1152
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: right now, this Rockies team is horrendous.

1153
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: This would be a great time for Robert Gazelle's debut. Yes,

1154
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: give us three or four innings to start the game.

1155
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: Pitch against Chi Chi Gonzales or whoever is going to

1156
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: pitch for the Rockies in these games. The Rockies consistently

1157
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 2: just because of It sucks that they have to build

1158
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: a team in chorus Field, but they have never had

1159
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: good pitching and until they overhaul the organization will never

1160
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: have good pitching. We should be playing up football scores

1161
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: on the Rockies for three games. I don't want to

1162
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: see Jaob de groms.

1163
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he should not be touching the field and

1164
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: get it. He probably wants to say in his like

1165
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: schedule as well. He's a very He's a guy who's

1166
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: made it very clear from the start. He's like very

1167
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: regimented and how he does his off days and he

1168
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: wants to pitch every X amount of days.

1169
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: Send him to City Field with Ali Sanchez and throw

1170
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 2: a simulated game. I don't care.

1171
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: It's just on the card goals. We can't even use him.

1172
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: Pat the car out there, I'll take a bets. I'll

1173
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: stand there and I'll wave at one hundred pitches. Whatever

1174
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: he needs to do tomorrow. Was Chichie Gonzales the fact

1175
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: that is on the schedule. A sorry, Chichi, you're now

1176
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: the new Brett Anderson of this series.

1177
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chase Anderson. Chase Anderson, Oh.

1178
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: They both are boring.

1179
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 2: Who cares?

1180
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: They both are guys.

1181
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: I'd love the fast who cans Chi Chi.

1182
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: Gonzales, especially in Coors. Sign me up. The Mets need

1183
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: me to pitch tomorrow. Maybe I'll do it. I'll hit too.

1184
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: He's on the list. Chichick Ganzala is on the list

1185
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: of guys I'd like to hit against.

1186
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you anything about Chichie Gazalaz except for

1187
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: the fact that he's pitched for the Rockies for way

1188
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: too long. However long it's been, it's too long. Sorry, Chiche.

1189
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: You might be a nice guy. I'm sure he's a

1190
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: great guy.

1191
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: Name.

1192
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: Combination of your name being Chichi and the fact that

1193
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: you just haven't had success typically in the majors.

1194
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: You know what, how about this fuck Chi Chickenzales he

1195
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: went to Orl Roberts. I'm still not over that.

1196
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: The Mets, like you said, I mean, if we don't

1197
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: see I'm gonna I need to see thirty runs out

1198
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: of three games. And if we score thirty runs, I

1199
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: think we're gonna do pretty well because outside Trevor Story

1200
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: and Charlie Blackman, there's pretty much nobody on this team

1201
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: that can hit.

1202
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: They still have some hitters, I mean never in years past.

1203
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: This is gonna be statistically the worst home Rockies offense

1204
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: that we've ever seen, because their worst ever I was

1205
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: in a little Twitter argument with someone else today talking

1206
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: about fantasy baseball, but their worst ever hitting team was

1207
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. That team had Charlie black My team still

1208
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: had Todd Helton. The team had young Corey Diggers. And

1209
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: the team has some bats Carlos Gonzalez and his heyday.

1210
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: This team has no bats. It's story ex separate story.

1211
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: Blackman McMahon's okay.

1212
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes he is annoying because he'll just get a hit.

1213
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: Little Well, you love Tapia, that's your guy, Electric Factory,

1214
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: and he's the most exciting player in baseball. Don't don't.

1215
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: I will never I'll.

1216
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 2: Never deny that Remel Tapia in the World Baseball Classic.

1217
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: This guy talks about baseball for a living.

1218
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: I would love to face Rhymel Tapia. He'd be on

1219
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: my list of guys I want to pitch against because

1220
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: he has horrible play discipline. He swings in at every

1221
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: single pitch you throw at him. That's if they play

1222
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: any games in Colorado, which I seriously wouldn't be.

1223
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could definitely, we could definitely have a cancelation

1224
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: or two Sunday looks nice, we might get two games

1225
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: in on Sunday. If Sunday's nice and seven inning game,

1226
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 2: send a grim out there. Just tell him pitch, pitch

1227
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: the first game, take a half hour break, and then

1228
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: give me the first two with the next one.

1229
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: Yes, whatever, whatever, You're gonna be able to do, whatever

1230
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: you need, You'll be able to handle it. You'll be fine.

1231
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: He's taking it's a thirty minute break in between every

1232
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: or double header games. He's had a thirty minute breaking innings.

1233
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: I just think it's the long ending. It's also cores field.

1234
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: Every other inning is a thirty minute break. You're gonna

1235
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: hit for eleven batteries.

1236
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: That's how it works. That have to have to smack

1237
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: smack around the Rockies. These are like bury them these

1238
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: especially right now with like the Mets are playing pretty

1239
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: good baseball while the National league'st is struggling right now,

1240
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: so they're beating up on each other. These are three

1241
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: games that you should win. I'm not gonna say you

1242
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: gotta sweep them. That's that's tough to do in baseball,

1243
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: no matter who you're playing hard to get a sweep.

1244
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: But these are three games that if you can get

1245
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: three wins. That's really big when you look at the

1246
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: win lost column at the end of the year. Getting

1247
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: three against the Rockies, that's huge. That would be huge

1248
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: for them.

1249
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: Just simply one of the worst teams in baseball. And

1250
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: if you want to be one of the best teams

1251
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: in baseball, you have to pulverize the worst.

1252
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: Once pulverize the worst and be five hundred against the rest,

1253
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: and you are going to be a playoff team.

1254
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna make up a loss to the Marlins with

1255
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: the ground on the mount, yeah, and take it all

1256
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: out in.

1257
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: The Rockies and we were there. That's the worst. That's bad.

1258
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: It's a long summer. They'll be better days.

1259
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: Positive episode today, really really good vibes. Mets are looking good,

1260
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: Mets are playing good baseball, finally starting to really click

1261
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: and feel good. All the negatives that we had. Confordo

1262
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: is really the only guy who's still looking pretty orble

1263
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: at the plate. Otherwise everyone else is at least giving

1264
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: us something to look forward to.

1265
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: When's last time? Notacoing forth?

1266
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna hit yes, twenty twenty. I don't know, it's

1267
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: been too long. He's he's a guy who if we

1268
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna say this, if we do come up

1269
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: against a tough lefty, does that exist in Colorado?

1270
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: No, the Rockies don't have I would say you'd.

1271
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: Give him a day off, but you want him to

1272
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: hit in Colorado because he has the best chance to

1273
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: get a hit there out of any stadium in the

1274
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: in sports.

1275
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: We're not going to see a tough lefty for a

1276
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: while because we're seeing Rockies, Cubs, Nationals, bo Socks for two.

1277
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 2: We might see Eduardo Rodriguez. No, don't know how the

1278
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: rotation's gonna shake out, and then Phillies again. There's no

1279
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: tough lefty on.

1280
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: The horizon, which is great for us. But I yeah,

1281
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: think for us he does need a day off. I

1282
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: think I don't think he's in the spot right now

1283
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: of keep playing and he'll figure it out. I think

1284
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: it's a day off and sit on the sidelines and

1285
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: watch what's happening a little bit, because he is just

1286
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: he's even more lost at the plate than we thought.

1287
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to get too far ahead here, but

1288
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: the Mets have a stretch against some bad pitching coming

1289
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: up for a bat of the calendar month. Nationals gonna

1290
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: miss Sures apparently right now, Red Sox, Phillies again, good pitching,

1291
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 2: we've hit them, and then Cardinals. You see the Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 2: They have a couple of nice pitchers. And then it's

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Speaker 2: not until you see the Rays two series after the Diamonbacks,

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Speaker 2: where let's let's get the offense rolling.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: We were suppo. We thought we were gonna be one

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Speaker 2: of the better offenses in the league. That hasn't materialized.

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Speaker 2: Let's put that together.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we were coming in hot to playing in Colorado.

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Speaker 1: That only means a lot one thing. Lots of runs.

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Speaker 1: Lots of runs are coming. Let's do what we waxed

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Speaker 1: the Phillies. Time to what's what's mine the Rockies? Is

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Speaker 1: that the tough?

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Speaker 2: Are we gonna cut that? No, I'm keeping that in there.

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Speaker 1: It's terrible. I'm gonna keep it. Someone come up with

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Speaker 1: something better. There has to be something.

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Speaker 2: That's that's our bad take of the day from Mark.

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Speaker 2: Let's mine the Rockies.

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Speaker 1: Let's mine them up. Let's drop some T n T and.

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Speaker 2: That's an episode six. Everybody, let's frack the Rockies. Can

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Speaker 2: I say that Mark wants to get rid of the

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Speaker 2: National Parks? I see, yeah, if you watch nature.

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Speaker 1: I'm about as red as my shirt right now because

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Speaker 1: I'm just missing as bad as anyone ever has. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for.

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Speaker 2: Listening up there.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, oh good friend.

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Speaker 2: He's a nice guy. I hope he comes before that.

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Speaker 2: Gonna get a hot this week.

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Speaker 1: But I think that is the great spot. To end

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Speaker 1: episode number six of the Mets Up Podcast. James Chiano

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Speaker 1: Jeter had no range, Mark Luino giraffeck Mark. You know

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Speaker 1: us all well by this point. Thank you for the

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Speaker 1: amazing support you guys have continued to show on the channel.

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Speaker 1: You know where to listen to us, Apple, Google, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: all those places will be able to be listened to,

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Speaker 1: and you can watch us on YouTube if you want

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Speaker 1: to see a video with it as well, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: I put some clips in there. We'll see how I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling today. I got a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the show comes out at midnight. I

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Speaker 1: might be playing we don't know, but that's plug. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nice plug. They didn't pay me for that. They should have.

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Speaker 1: But they didn't pay you for that either. They should have,

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Speaker 1: but no.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sitting here with that and be.

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Speaker 1: The show sucks to suck, man. It sucks to suck.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable, rude, rude.

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Speaker 1: Disturbed, disturbing. That's how I would have explained it. But

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Speaker 1: episode six, we've been rambling for enough. Bye,