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John Middlecops three and Out Podcast, 28 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: Thursday Night Bill's Josh Allen take Down the Fighting Baker 29 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: May and Tom Brady ain't walking through that door, but 30 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: some wide receivers could be walking out that door. On 31 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: the trade deadline, we will dive into the game. The 32 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: matchups this weekend. There is not a buy this weekend, 33 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: so we have sixteen NFL games. When you look at 34 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: the schedule, though not many great matchups because a lot 35 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: of the matchups do not include two winning teams. You 36 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: could argue the best matchup of the day is Jags 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: and Steelers. So when Sunday Night is Chargers Bears kind 38 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: of tells you everything you need to know. But hell, 39 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: I love football, so do you. I just watched every 40 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: snap of a Thursday night game that wasn't great, but 41 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: I did enjoy it. So we will talk about everything 42 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: coming up this weekend, as well as the Harbass story. 43 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a new nugget with this. It's not spygate, 44 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: spygate two point zero college spygate comes out every day. 45 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: Something about TCU in the playoff game today, So it's 46 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: gonna be fascinating to watch all how Jimmy Harbaugh fends 47 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: off this craziness and as well as the bold take 48 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: of the week. But yeah, no mail bag today, but 49 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: firing those dms. I love answering your questions at John 50 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: Middlecoffe as the Instagram. If you listen on Collins Feed 51 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: three and out subscribe to the feed. Please appreciate everyone 52 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: that has and let's have a good weekend. Let's enjoy 53 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: some football. 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They're five and three and 72 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: they've had a bizarre season. They've had some high highs 73 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: and some low lows. I think big picture, clearly, when 74 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: their quarterback is on, they are really good. He is 75 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 2: a very very special player tonight, as the kids would say, 76 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: he was in his bag. He looked freaking excellent. He 77 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: dominated that game. Honestly, the box score doesn't do him 78 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: justice because the pick was pretty freakish. Great play by Winfield. 79 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: But Josh Allen was brilliant from the jump tonight. He 80 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: came out Honestly, the Bills felt like an NBA team 81 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: with the top five NBA player that just said I'm 82 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: going off. You're not stopping me. I'm carrying us to 83 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 2: the Promised Land on this Thursday night game, especially after 84 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: a terrible divisional lost last week. But here's what I 85 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: asked myself with the Bills. They're all in on this 86 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: team right, and some things have not gone well for 87 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: them given the injuries They've lost several impact defensive starters 88 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: last year. They make the acquisition for von Miller, tears 89 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: his acl love the guy. Have a lot of admiration 90 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: for von Miller. One of the biggest bets I've ever 91 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: made came in the Super Bowl where he was the MVP. 92 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: He'll always have a special place in my heart. But 93 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: he's just not the same guy. He's really not. So 94 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: they need help, and I think they are a clear 95 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: team one of the teams who views themselves fair not 96 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: as a Super Bowl contender, as someone who's gonna be 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: sniffing around some and go big game hunting over these 98 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: next couple days. And to me, it would not shock 99 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: me on Monday or Tuesday if they get very aggressive, 100 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: you know aggressive like trading a first round pick for 101 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: a very highly impactful player. Clearly on defense, they could 102 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: use help defensive line. You can never have enough of 103 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: them offensively. It feels like the Bills, you know, have 104 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: a lot of firepower in the passing game. When when 105 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: Davis is playing like this. Obviously Diggs is an elite player, 106 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: and the young dude from Boise State ten is good. 107 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: I like him a lot. Cook has his moments, and 108 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: obviously Josh Allen can run around. You could always use 109 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: another weapon. But to me, defense is where you win championships. 110 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: And I think they're gonna be sniffing around some big 111 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: time guys be willing to give a first round pick. 112 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 2: They're already all in. You're paying the quarterback this much. 113 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 2: He's in the prime of his career. Both the GM 114 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: and the coach now have been together for a long time. 115 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: You're so close, You're right there. You know you've competed, 116 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: you've dominated your division. You know. The only way to 117 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: get over the hump, like this team's probably not good 118 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: enough now you add a piece. I'm not even saying 119 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: they're one player away, but they don't have many other 120 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: options at this point in time in the season, but 121 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: to try to add a big time player, and I 122 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: kind of expect them depending on who truly is available. 123 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: You know, come Sunday Monday and we'll find out. Morris 124 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: teams lose on Sunday. Is for the Bills to be 125 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: a major, major player in the trade market, and speaking 126 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: of a team who should win because to me, the 127 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: Bills if your quarterback gets really hot, and last year, 128 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people make excuses for them 129 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: at the end of the season, everything that would happen 130 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: to them in terms of being displaced with the blizzard, 131 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: what happened to DeMar and the way the season ended. 132 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: Let's face it was pretty embarrassing against the Bengals, but 133 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: a lot of people internally somewhat defended it. Now and 134 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: I know you've had some adversity, you've lost some guys, 135 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: but how you know, you got a quarterback in the 136 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: peak of his powers. You got to do everything humanly 137 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: possible to give yourself the best chance. The cards you 138 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: have right now are just it is what it is. 139 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: But you can add and to me, a first round 140 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: pick for a high end player should be something. They're 141 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: all over when it comes to the Bucks. Listen, Jason 142 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: Light several years ago landing Tom Brady changed his resume, 143 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: changed this frameume forever. It was incredible and it worked. 144 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: It's over Like this group of older veteran guys. I 145 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: know their record is. It's not like they're one and six, right, 146 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: they are three and four. They've lost three three straight games, 147 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: and honestly, before that kind of lucky touchdown one of 148 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: the worst drives you'll ever see toward the end of 149 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: the game. It took like twenty five minutes that got 150 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: them that extra touchdown and then the two point conversion, 151 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: which was pretty lucky. This team was struggling to score 152 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: ten points for three straight games. This offense isn't good. 153 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: And listen, I actually think he's resurrected his career a 154 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: little bit, Baker Mayfield, but he's not a starting quarterback. 155 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: He's a guy on your NFL team. Really good backup 156 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: can come in in a pinch, get for a couple 157 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: million dollars, and if you need him to play, you 158 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: can win a game. But when he has to play 159 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: over and over and over again, he's just not that good. 160 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: And every time they talk about him on a broadcast. 161 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: For the swagger, the intensity and all that stuff matters, 162 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: but ultimately you also need the talent. As you saw 163 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: today with the Buffalo Bills, he just doesn't have it, 164 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: and there were passes flying all over the place tonight. 165 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: If I'm the Bucks, I'm basically making every player on 166 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: my team available beside a couple. And even then, you know, 167 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: the Worfs the Winfields make me an offer that's gonna 168 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: be very, very hard for me to refuse. But the 169 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: God wins the Evans for sure. I know Videvea was 170 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: inactive to night, but I would definitely listen Devin White. 171 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: There is not any veteran player at this point in 172 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: time that I wouldn't think about detonating this thing, blowing 173 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: it up and starting all over next year. And then 174 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: the big picture question is Todd Bowles, and he's long 175 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: been known as one of the best defensive coordinators in 176 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: the NFL, and I agree he's an excellent defensive coordinator 177 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 2: when he just gets to be the number two. Sometimes 178 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: when you get to be the number one, your strength 179 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: as a cordon is immediately diminished. We've seen that with 180 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: Brandon Staley, his one year with the Rams, when he 181 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: didn't have to focus on the macro view of the team. 182 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: He could just focus on his thirty guys. He was awesome. 183 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: You put him in front of the entire team. He 184 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: has to manage a staff, He has to manage the 185 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: offense in terms of, you know, confidence and talk to 186 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: them and call the defense overwhelmed. I think you see 187 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: this with Todd Bowles. When Todd Bowles has been allowed 188 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: to be the coordinator for Arians, he dominates. But when 189 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: he becomes the head coach, the final play call, which 190 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: ultimately you know, essentially ended the game, he blitzes the 191 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: nickel corner on like third and three or third and four. 192 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: It's like, Todd, that guy's never gonna get home. Easy 193 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: passed Josh Allen to Diggs and listen. Todd Bowles is 194 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: a guy known to blitz a lot. That's kind of 195 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: his calling card. He's like a Wink Martindale, very blitz 196 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: heavy guy. There's nothing wrong with that if that's your style. 197 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: But that blitz at that time when they're star wide 198 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: receivers right there, to me was idiotic. And that speed 199 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: to a guy who's in number two put in the 200 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: number one spot. Everything from there gets diminished, and I 201 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: think you're seeing Todd Bowles. You know, he's obviously not 202 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: that great of a head coach, but his great skill 203 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: as a coordinator is not as strong when he's also 204 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 2: the head coach. So I think his job status as 205 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: clearly as they keep losing, because I got news for you, 206 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: they're going to keep losing. The other thing is when 207 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 2: you lose a lot, your offense is terrible. It's one thing. 208 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: If you're in a division with several twelve or thirteen 209 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: win teams, they're in the worst division in football. Saints stink, 210 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: Falcon stink. It's just not a good division. So I 211 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: think the Bucks shouldn't just be open for business. I 212 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: think they should pull the trigger and get rid of 213 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: a ton of guys, follow what the Titans are doing, 214 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: and just reset your franchise. I have no problem with 215 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: everything they did for the last several years, but it's 216 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: time and you can see it on full display with 217 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield as your quarterback, and speaking about teams that 218 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: should reset, is a lot of times you know in football, 219 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,359 Speaker 2: this is not the NBA, where you start tanking basically immediately. 220 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: I mean Greg Popovich who never shuts up tanks for 221 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: like three straight years, and he's always screaming about the 222 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: integrity of the game like he's a sneaky king tanker. 223 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: He's just not as outspoken about it as a guy 224 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: like Sam Hinkey was, but he's done it several times 225 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: throughout his career in multiple decades. In the NFL, being 226 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: a head coach is too valuable, it's too financially lucrative 227 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: for these guys. They fight for every inch as a player, 228 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: no guaranteed contracts. All you have on your resume is 229 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: what you put on tape. So every team tries whether 230 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: you're good or bad, so no one truly tanks hell. 231 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: Steven Ross, which I don't blame him, told Brian Flores, 232 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: I'll give you money under the table, just lose games, 233 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: and he beat the Bengals and it cost them. Joe 234 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: Burrow now, ultimately, in a weird way, it's kind of 235 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: worked out, but not for him. He got run out 236 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: of town and now McDaniel somewhat reachs the rewards, I guess. 237 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: But there are several teams to me that if they 238 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: lose on Sunday have to acknowledge like it's it's time 239 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: to get rid of some veterans and try to obviously 240 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: use and develop some younger players, but we need to 241 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 2: be open for business to me, the Patriots, the Vikings, 242 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: the Packers. Obviously, the Vikings and the Packers play each other, Washington, 243 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: the Giants, the Chargers, any of these teams if they lose, 244 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: especially the Chargers, Like if you lose on Sunday night 245 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: to this second or Division two quarterback, and your season 246 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: is just done, because that's what it would be. It 247 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: would be officially done. Like how about you start taking 248 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: some calls and if you're Dean Spanos, you hit the 249 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: blow up button. Maybe you fire the coach, but you 250 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: trade the players and you kind of reset this for 251 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: the next guy coming in this offseason. You give them 252 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: more draft capital, you already got the quarterback on board, 253 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: and you try to rebuild this team. Same thing with 254 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: the Giants. Listen, Brian day Ball has showed a lot 255 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 2: of grittiness this last couple of weeks. Right they took 256 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: the Bills right down to the wire. They won last week. 257 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: You know they've done that with Tyrod Taylor. I saw he. 258 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: I guess he wouldn't have talked on Thursday, but it 259 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: was either on Wednesday. Yeah, probably was Wednesday where he 260 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: said he stopped. I think Jordan Ranan asked him in 261 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: the press conference, he said, did you say something to 262 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley said he grabs Saquon Barkley and told him, 263 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: we don't intend to trade you, like we have no 264 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: intention to trading you. I know the rumors are out there. 265 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: I think they should if they get a good offer. 266 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm not saying give him away, but you lose this weekend, 267 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: like you wouldn't trade him to the Bills like a 268 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: second round pick. I'm not saying the Bills would do that, 269 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: But you got to be open to these ideas. You're 270 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: going nowhere. Is Saquon gonna be on your team in 271 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: two or three years? News flash? Probably not. You just 272 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: weren't giving him a long term extension now, So if 273 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: you can get the proper value for a guy who 274 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: now makes a lot of money, who you are very 275 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: hesitant to give a long term contract, you have to 276 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: be open minded to the idea. Obviously, the commander in 277 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: a weird spot coach feels like he's kind of coaching 278 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: for his job. Was it Diana Rossini or Hurts one 279 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: of the NFL newsbreakers that think some people believe that 280 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: Ron Rivera thinks that because Josh Harris had to leverage 281 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: so much money to buy this franchise, that he's not 282 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: just flushed with cash to buy his staff out and 283 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: then hire a new staff. So who knows. But regardless 284 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: if I'm the owner, we lose this weekend, like trade 285 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: whoever you want to trade, Let's get some picks. Obviously, 286 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: the losers of the Vikings Packer game, I mean they're 287 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: going nowhere fast. The Vikings, even if they were to win, 288 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: they've already kind of acknowledged cutting all the guys this offseason. 289 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: They're not gonna resign Kirk Cousins. You don't think, like, 290 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: why wouldn't you be open for business? You're not like 291 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: winning a playoff game. I know it was fun on 292 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: Monday night, but that's probably the peak of your season. Now. 293 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: The thing with the Patriots is like, who do they 294 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: really have to trade at this point? But you know, 295 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: if anyone gives them an offer, anybody, and you lose 296 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: this week to the Dolphins, like send them pack And 297 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,119 Speaker 2: that speaks to some of the pressure on the quarterbacks 298 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: this weekend. I think there are guys that are kind 299 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: of under the microscope and one guy, and listen, I 300 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: defend him because I think he's awesome, and I feel 301 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: comfortable defending I think he's a really good player. Now, 302 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: is he accomplished like win an MVP like Lamar, win 303 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: a Super Bowls like Patrick Mahomes, or even consistently winning 304 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: like Josh Allen. No, he's not. Would every team in 305 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: the league, beside like twenty seven teams or excuse me, 306 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: twenty seven of the thirty two teams want this guy 307 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: as their quarterback? Yes, that's Justin Herbert. But Sunday Night, 308 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: despite a coach who has no clue what he's doing, 309 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: despite a bunch of injuries, despite a defense that can't 310 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: stop a soul like you kind of need to come 311 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: out in avistrate the Chicago Bears, Like that kind of 312 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: needs to happen. Now. I understand you playing in a 313 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: venue that's gonna be seventy five percent West Coast Chicago 314 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: Bears fans, but you just got to do something. I 315 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: think there is tangible pressure on Justin Herbert to not 316 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: just have a good game, but a little like all 317 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: the night, just to have a game like we're not fucking 318 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: losing under no circumstances on my watch? Are we losing 319 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: this game? And you know kind of need that to happen. 320 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: The other guy is he doesn't quite make as much 321 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: as Herbert, but they gave him a lot of money 322 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 2: this offseason. And as you saw tonight, the Bucks stink. 323 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: I think the Falcon stink. I mean they have good 324 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: individual players, but as a team, I'm just not buying it. 325 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: Like no chance the Carolina Panthers can't win a game 326 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: to save their life. The Saints paid all this money 327 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: for Derek Carr. They were not expecting Mahomes, Josh Allen, 328 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: and Lamar Jackson. They were just expecting someone to play 329 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: like the twelfth or thirteenth quarterback in the league, which 330 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: he has done at times in his career. And then 331 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: this week you know j T. O'Sullivan, former NFL quarterback, 332 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: played at UC Davis. Actually funny story. When he was 333 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: in college, he pretended to be doing like a charity 334 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: drive where he was accepting money. Turns out it was 335 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: a fake charity. He was drunk. But that's a long 336 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: time ago now. But he runs a successful YouTube channel 337 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: where he breaks down quarterback play and I think he 338 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: was very, very critical on the video. It would have 339 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 2: been what last Thursday against Cars game against the Jags, 340 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: and rightfully so, like Derek has consistently for what they 341 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: paid him and what they expected, been pretty awful. You know, 342 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: you're playing the Colts, who have shown some life, but 343 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 2: their number four pick is on injured reserve with a 344 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: sling on his arm. They've got Gardner minshew, you gotta 345 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: make some plays indoors like part of the reason. And 346 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm kicking myself for doing this because ultimately their coaches, 347 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: Dennis Allen and Derek like, that's not a great combination. 348 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: But everyone that was bullish on the Saints, like myself, 349 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: we just went through their schedule. It's like bad quarterback, 350 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: bad quarterback, rookie quarterback, bad quarterback. There weren't many Tom 351 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: Brady's and Peyton Mannings on that schedule. Yet all of 352 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: a sudden, you lose this game, you're three and five 353 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: and you're a joke. So I think there is tangible 354 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: pressure on Derek Carr, and it's easy for him to say, well, 355 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: you expect me to answer a question in a press 356 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: conference about a you know, journeyman quarterback, Give me a break. No, Derek. 357 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: I think the guy had some valid points, like it 358 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: was very fair, you're playing poorly, and then two other 359 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: younger players that I think that I saw Kurt Warner 360 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: online was coming to the defense of Jordan Love that said, 361 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: when you went through the All twenty two, that where 362 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: what was he supposed to do with the ball? And 363 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: so basically what he's saying is it's more on the 364 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: play caller. Here's what I would say. You don't need 365 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: to be Bill Walsh or Shane Steichen or Sean McVay 366 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 2: meets Kyle Shanahan to sit on your couch for three 367 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: or four weeks and just go, yeah, this guy feels 368 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: a little overwhelmed. And that's what has consistently felt like 369 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: with Jordan Love. Can you break down every route concept 370 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: and hot route and everything that's going right and wrong 371 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: on the offense from your couch? Of course, not even 372 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: if you were me get the All twenty two? Do 373 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: I know their offense? Everyone's what they're supposed to do 374 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: and what they're not supposed to do. No, you don't 375 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: unless you have the playbook. But I think it's pretty 376 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: clear the last several weeks that Jordan has been a 377 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: little overwhelmed. And like I said, I think to Colin 378 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: on Sunday night, And I've been saying this from the beginning. 379 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: The moment they signed him to that contract extension and 380 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: did not give him the fifth year option, it told 381 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 2: you what they thought about him. It also was an 382 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: incredible contingency plan. If it doesn't work out, we get 383 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 2: a guy we can move back to backup quarterback, or 384 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: even if it gets really weird, we have to not 385 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: keep him around. We're not even paying them that much money, 386 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: so they're not even screwed. But if this guy wants 387 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: to continue to start like, he's gonna have to start 388 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 2: making some place. So he's home off of bye, play 389 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: in Minnesota, Like come on, bro, like, let's make some place. 390 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: And uh, I don't know, man, I guess he's not 391 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 2: off of bye. He was off of by last week. 392 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: Didn't play that well, but he's well rested. Guys coming 393 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: back from injury. I'm just can Jordan Love show me anything? 394 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: Because I wanted to like him, right mobility, big arm, strength, 395 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: but you got to be able to play the position. 396 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: And right now you watch Jordan Love, you're like, eh, 397 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: I don't really see it. And last but not least listen. 398 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: I've been critical of this guy simply because I've said 399 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 2: it forever that the mac Jones the Kenny Picketts are 400 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: guys I would take in the third round. And I 401 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: talk to a guy that runs a college draft, like 402 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: a college scouting director, and he's like, you know, the 403 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: problem with that mindset is what is ultimately the difference 404 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: if you're going to take a guy in the second 405 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: or third round at quarterback, because you're ultimately kind of 406 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: staying you could see this guy being your starter. So 407 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: if you're going to take what's the difference of taking 408 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: the guy at the end of the second round or 409 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: at pick twenty two or at pick fifteen. The difference 410 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: is when you trade up to get a guy. But 411 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: if you let the guy fall to you and you 412 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 2: view him as a starter, even if you acknowledge in 413 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: the draft room, yeah, listen, his ceiling is not what 414 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: these other guys are, but we need a quarterback and 415 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: we view him as a Starter's not much difference. Now, 416 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: there's a little difference in terms of the financial impact. 417 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 2: But where I do agree is, like that guy, if 418 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: you're willing to take him at fifteen or twenty and 419 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: I view historically that guy is a third round talent. 420 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: In that individual draft, that player is not going to 421 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: be there in the third round. So you have to 422 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: if you really need the quarterback, take him at fifteen 423 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: twenty is understandable. I disagree with it. I wouldn't do 424 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: it more Mac than Kenny Pickett because of the players 425 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 2: around Kenny Pickett. But I do understand the logic when 426 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: you need a quarterback, and clearly the Steelers and you 427 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: know the Patriots need a quarterback. Well, Mac Jones last 428 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: week was just much better, right their offense, clearly their 429 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: offensive line, got some guys back off injury, made some moves, 430 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: was much better. He's better under center, he's more comfortable 431 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: when you get rid of the ball quickly. Early on 432 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: and last year when he was falling apart and early 433 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: on this year. What bothers me about players that have 434 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 2: limited skill sets is when they tried to play like 435 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts or Josh Allen and Baker does this sometimes 436 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: and they like run around behind the pocket like they 437 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: are Russell Wilson in his prime. It's like, bro, this 438 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 2: is not your game. You might make a play one time, 439 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: scrambling around doing a three sixty getting out of the pocket, 440 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: throwing it downfield. But more often than not, with your 441 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: skill set, it's gonna lead to disaster. It's gonna lead 442 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: to an interception, it's gonna lead to you getting sacked. 443 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a negative play that play consistently when 444 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: you keep going back to it, even if other people 445 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 2: fucked up, even if your offensive line got lit up, 446 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: even if the receiver ran wrong round, just hit the ground, 447 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: live to play another down. That's how you have to play. 448 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: You have to play very, very conservatively. Josh Allen, the 449 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, the Patrick Mahomes. Because of their skill set, 450 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: they can play outside the pocket. Think about it, Like 451 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, two guys greatest quarterback ever, 452 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: another guy in the top five. They never played outside 453 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: the pocket because they knew only bad things could happen, right, 454 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: That's it wasn't their game. So when other people screwed 455 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: up and they couldn't get rid of the ball, they 456 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: would just hit the ground. They just wave the white flag. 457 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 2: The problem with the guy like Mac is he's slightly 458 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: athletic enough, and you see it with Baker to kind 459 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: of take off, but more often not. That's when problems, 460 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 2: you know, arise, because that is not their game. And 461 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: I think you just got to keep Mac Jones in 462 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: the pocket, get the ball out of the quick and 463 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: if it's not their Mac, go down, throw the ball away. 464 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: That is the only way we're gonna be able to 465 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: function as a team. We clearly are not explosive enough 466 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: to score thirty five points. You're not a good enough 467 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: player to just run around and make shit happen. Play 468 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: in the construct of the offense. And if other people 469 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: outside of you are screwing up, not open you know, 470 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: free rushers, just go down. That's fine. We'll take a loss. 471 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: I'd rather take a three yard loss. Then you throw 472 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: a pick six or you throw the ball to the 473 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 2: other team. Because when the Patriots were getting mollywopped by 474 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: teams like the Saints, that's what he He was just 475 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: trying to play outside of his own skill sets. So 476 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: if Bill O'Brien and Belichick can just get him back, 477 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: you know, contained that game's kind of interesting. Now. Tyreek 478 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: I saw today says he's gonna play this week. Was 479 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: a hamstring or hip injury. Clearly he's you know, one 480 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: of the most dominant players in the NFL, So him 481 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: being in or out is a really big deal. But 482 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: we talked about this last week with the Patriots. Don't 483 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: love them against random teams, Like if you told me 484 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: next week they're playing the Jags or they're playing Seattle 485 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: at Seattle's like, do not like that matchup. But those 486 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: six games against the AFC East, you gotta like their chances, 487 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 2: you really do. He knows these players, he knows their 488 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 2: skill set. I mean, look at when they played the Dolphins, 489 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: who early on in the season were lighting everyone up 490 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: like a Christmas tree, Belichick had a chance to win. 491 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: And to me, it gets back to familiarity and just 492 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: his coaching and understanding of the three teams that he plays, 493 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: you know, total times six times a year. And it's 494 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: not just when he plays the Dolphins. When he plays 495 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: the Bills and he's getting ready for the Bills, he's 496 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: watching Dolphins tape to get that game. So you see 497 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: all the cross tape, your knowledge of those players. I 498 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 2: say it all the time, all these divisional games. I 499 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: don't care if it's like the seven to one Eagles 500 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: against the winless Commanders or you know, the five and 501 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: one Seattle against the winless Arizona. Those players, the comfort 502 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: level they have, the schemes, the carryover. Even as new 503 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: coaches come and go, a lot of the players are 504 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: the same. There's not an intimidation factor. So I think 505 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: with division games, things get weird, and things get weird 506 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: very fast. So I'm I'm very fascinated to watch those quarterbacks. 507 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: A couple other Obviously, the Browns thing has gotten pretty weird. 508 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 2: You know, he says he's hurt. It feels like the 509 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: Browns kind of say he's hurt, but also don't want 510 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: to say it. But they also don't totally agree with everything. 511 00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: Bizarre situation. They're going to Seattle. Seattle wins, and if 512 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: it turns out Sam Darnold has to play all of 513 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: a sudden Seattle, you know, the Niners would have lost 514 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: three straight games and Seattle would be in first place 515 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: in the NFC West. Think how crazy that would be. Now, 516 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: I still think the Niners there's gonna be a kitchen 517 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: sink game. Kyle Shanahan threw his defensive coordinator under the 518 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: bus this week, Even though what the defensive coordinator did 519 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: was dumb. You just don't often see coaches publicly say like, yeah, 520 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: that was a stupid call about their coordinator, especially with 521 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: a new coordinator. In my theory simple is, I do 522 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: wonder if some of the star players and the Niners 523 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: Fred Warner, Nick Bosa Ward are not really feeling this 524 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: like they've been with Demiko the last couple of years. 525 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: They know what elite game plans are and this guy's 526 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: game plans are a little different than what they're used to. 527 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: So if he kind of just publicly did that to 528 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: kind of show his locker room like, yeah, I'm not 529 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 2: cool with it either. Even though I hired this guy, 530 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: and even though I'm the Boston in any moment over 531 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: the headset, I can say do something else. But a 532 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 2: little bit of a bizarre situation the Niners, even when 533 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: things are going good, things always get a little weird 534 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: with Kyle in this team. Now you're getting Sam Darnold, 535 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: so you know, Bengal's coming off of bye. Jamar Chase 536 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: is fifty catches right now, fifty catches. They played six games, 537 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: So I mean, do the mac like he's on pace 538 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: for a lot of receptions this year. Jordan Addison just 539 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: lit up the Niners. That's gonna be interesting, and all 540 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: you know, Seattle. The thing with Cleveland is two weeks 541 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: ago they won with PJ Walker holding on for dear 542 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 2: life against the Niners. I mean he could have thrown 543 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: like five picks. Last week he essentially started because Deshaun 544 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: got hurt early on in that game, and same type deal, 545 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: they held on for dear life. Now he's starting again 546 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: from the from the jump in this game. Are you 547 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: gonna win three straight games with PJ Walker playing the 548 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: majority of the snaps at quarterback? It feels like it's 549 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: gonna be difficult, especially two road games. So this is 550 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: a spot for Cleveland. They win this game, you have 551 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: to wonder like would they sniff around some upgrades at 552 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: quarterback given that Deshaun who knows his situation with his shoulder. 553 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,239 Speaker 2: So because their team, you win this game, you go 554 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: three to zero with PJ. Walker. I mean, that's that's 555 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: an incredible accomplishment. I don't think I wonder if there's 556 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: another team like the Niners couldn't do it. The Eagles 557 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: maybe could do it if they just rant it every 558 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: play with DeAndre Swift, but even that would be hard. 559 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: What Cleveland is doing right now with PJ. Walkers. You 560 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: win this game just I think he got a trade 561 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: for a quarterback. And last, but not least a story. Well, 562 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: I want to give a congratulates Sean McVay. He had 563 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: a baby today, Jordan McVay, So congrats to the McVeigh family. 564 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: As he said a couple of weeks ago, my son 565 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: knows better he will not be born on game day, 566 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: and he was right. He was born in the middle 567 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: of the week. Sean will be coaching in Dallas. 568 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: Tricky. 569 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: Game two is a little bit like you know those 570 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: nine am kickoffs for us on the West Coast, like 571 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: when Colorado early on the season kicked off at nine 572 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: am with USC that bodyclock game. It's it's tough and 573 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: the Rams. How often do the Cowboys play a ten 574 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: am game at home? I get, you know, twelve o'clock 575 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: their time, but that Rams going on the road ten am, bodyclock, 576 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: but it's not on the East Coast. Kind of a 577 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: bizarre deal. Tough spot for the Rams for sure, especially 578 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: with Sean, who I would imagine has been in and 579 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: out of the office all week. But there was a 580 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: college football reporter broke a story today that that TCU 581 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: got word of the Michigan cheating scandal feels a little 582 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: strong sign scandal that they steal your science and they 583 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: go to your games, even though I understand when in 584 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: a conference game, when you do it because you know 585 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: all your opponents, I would imagine it would have been 586 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: a little more difficult with some of these playoff opponents, 587 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: though I guess the Marine guy could have sent someone 588 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: to the Big twelve championship game, which I would imagine 589 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: they did once they kind of got an idea of 590 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: who they could play in the playoff game. Less they 591 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: beat Ohio State, but TCU, and I would imagine it 592 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: was Sonny Dike's or one of the coordinators leaked that 593 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: they got word that Michigan was going to have all 594 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: their signs. So what they did is all the signs 595 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: they used, they just made them all dummy signs and 596 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: they changed them all but they still used them on 597 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: game day, and they told all their players none of 598 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 2: them work, but we're just gonna do it like we 599 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: normally do. Look at it like you normally would. But 600 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: they're all fake. And I went to the box score, 601 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: it's not like Max Duggan or whoever threw for seven 602 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: hundred yards. But they did lose fifty one to forty five, 603 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: And I do wonder if that's true. Like I understand 604 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: if you have the signs, why you would utilize them 605 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: against Penn State, against Wisconsin, against Ohio State. But Michigan, 606 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: as you saw in the National Championship game. I'm not 607 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: saying they should have won the game seventy to seven whatever, 608 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: Georgia BTCU, But if you play that game Michigan and 609 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: no one has any plays or signs, Michigan should win 610 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: that game eight or nine out of ten times. And 611 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: I wonder if that the way they were going about 612 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: the sign stuff fucked him up in that game, because 613 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: you shouldn't need the signs to run Sunny Dyke's spread 614 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: offense when you have better players at every position. And 615 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: I wonder if that's something that Jim Harbus's thinking about, 616 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: like especially after he lost, Like did we overthink that one? 617 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: Just play the freaking game against that guy. I understand 618 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: stealing the signs against Georgia. I understand stealing the signs 619 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: against Ohio State. You're gonna need those advantages to beat 620 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: those teams. But against TCU, and I'm not diminishing anything 621 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: TCU did last year. Incredible accomplishment and that's an unreal 622 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: win against Michigan. But I wonder if Michigan almost slowed 623 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: themselves down being so obsessed with the signs against an 624 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: opponent that they were a heavy favorite. And I also 625 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: wonder where this is gonna go, because every day kind 626 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: of a new story breaks. You know, he's gonna keep 627 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: playing these games, is gonna get vacated. In a year, 628 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: he probably won't even be in college football. But this 629 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: is just a story that keeps on given. And I 630 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: can't lie while I don't think you know. I said 631 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: my piece earlier this week on the science stealing It 632 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: is entertaining all the different angles that keep coming out. Okay, last, 633 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: but not least, bold take of the week, brought to 634 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 2: you by my friends at Guinness, and early on I 635 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: was getting really aggressive. I was trying to pick games 636 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: that hoping to hit a huge underdog, and he realized 637 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: that's gonna happen once in a blue moon. Last week, 638 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: I gotta give myself some credit. I said that someone 639 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: was gonna get fired in the NFL, and Frank Reich 640 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: essentially fired himself, demoted himself and made his offense, made 641 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator gave him the play calling he was 642 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 2: no longer to play caller. This week, I looked at 643 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: the slate like it was I don't love the Patriots 644 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: to be the Dolphins. I didn't love any huge upsets. 645 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: There aren't many crazy games in college that I felt 646 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: good about. I do think with the lot of teams 647 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: in the NFL starting to realize, yeah, we're not that good, 648 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: and once this weekend happens and some of these kind 649 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: of five hundred teams are three and four, but also 650 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 2: kind of feel lifeless. I wonder if they wave the 651 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 2: white flag really good quarterback draft, really good draft in general, 652 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: and when I say white flag, they'd still try, but 653 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: just be really open to trade veteran players. And I 654 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: think we're gonna see last year it was a little 655 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: earlier than the trade deadline, McCaffrey got traded. We've seen 656 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 2: Von Miller got traded. It's been a couple of years 657 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 2: since we've seen the big a number one for a player. 658 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 2: I think we see a first round pick traded over 659 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: the next four or five days for a player I 660 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: don't know who. I also think there's a chance for 661 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: there to be some players we're talking about Mike Evans, 662 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: we're talking about Chris Godwin. We're talking about the same 663 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 2: names on a lot of the teams that we see. 664 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: Are we sure there couldn't be a sleeper name? There 665 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 2: are some guys making enormous contracts in the NFL. You know, 666 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 2: the Rams are a good example. Would they just entertain 667 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: you lose this week to Dallas, all of a sudden 668 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 2: you realize, yeah, we're probably not a playoff team. Could 669 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: we get like a one in two twos for Aaron Donald, 670 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: a guy who's getting up there in age, makes a 671 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: ton of money. And I'm not advocating I wouldn't want 672 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: to trade them either, But you gotta think big picture. 673 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: And this is part of being a GM. Everything we 674 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 2: did before worked. We blew all these picks on players, 675 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: and it netted us a ton of playoff victories and 676 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: obviously a super Bowl championship. And I'm just using them 677 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: as an example, but those type players Pro Bowl, all 678 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: pro level players on teams going nowhere, and on teams 679 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: who are just more likely to reset over the next 680 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: twelve eighteen months than to be in the Super Bowl 681 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: contention window. So I expect definitely a first round pick 682 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: to get thrown around on Monday or Tuesday, and honestly, 683 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 2: maybe more so. That's my bold take of the week, 684 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: brought to you by Guinness. 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It's forty 701 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 2: percent off an annual subscription that's just fifty nine to 702 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: ninety nine for the full season, get it before it's gone. Okay, 703 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: back at it again with my main man in the 704 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 2: trenches from the Action Network. You can hear them on 705 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 2: Big Bets on Campus Live from Lexington, Kentucky. Stucky. What's happening? 706 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: Bro going on? 707 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: Brother? Excited for a another weekend of football? So I 708 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: think I can't believe it's week ate, week gate and 709 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: week nine and college already? You know you the time 710 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: waiting for football in the summer is so slow, and 711 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're like, Wow, we're halfway done, 712 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: and then wow, we're in bowl season. Wow we're in 713 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: the NFL playoffs. So I wish I could weekends. 714 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 2: Is it already? Do they do the midnight madness already 715 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: out where you are? Forentucky basketball? 716 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: Yep, that's been done. And one last hurrah for the 717 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 1: Kentucky football team. I think they win actually this weekend, 718 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: I think they're getting three and a half. But they'll 719 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: play Tennessee Saturday night. There's a lot of hate between 720 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: those two schools. Then all the attention will officially turn 721 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: to basketball. 722 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: Well, last week, Brandon Staley put up his show to 723 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: his hand again and the Steelers offense looked good, but 724 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: you know, the Ravens dominated. The Pats won outright, So 725 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: you know, we held our head high this week before 726 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 2: we dive into the NFL. It's crazy, you know, you 727 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 2: tried to, you know, give me some talking points and 728 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: numbers in relation to Utah going into that game and 729 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: then after they won. Really seeing the numbers of that 730 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 2: quarterback in the previous game and the difference of how 731 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: he played against USC was pretty eye opening. I mean, 732 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 2: he averaged double the amount. I think it was like 733 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: almost under five yards per attempt. He was over ten. 734 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: He looked like, you know, an NFL prospect against them. 735 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 2: Just just an all time loss again for the really 736 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 2: the USC defense. 737 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: Yeah no, that was a great call by you. I 738 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 1: even had some USC minus four. 739 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 2: I just bet, I just bet on the culture and 740 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: the physicality obviously. Bet he's a third string pig farming 741 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: quarterback who blit him up? 742 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, Kayla Williams, he wants to do 743 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick and part ownership of the team, 744 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: have an ownership of the NFL team that drafts him, 745 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: I mean, and then he's losing it at home to 746 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: a guy that was working at Lows a month ago 747 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,439 Speaker 1: because he wasn't on scholarship and he had to pay 748 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: for his tuition, so he's working at Low's. Then go 749 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: into practice, so yeah, bad look for Lincoln Riley. Then 750 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 1: he doesn't make his players available to the media. Same 751 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: old story with that defense, and yeah, they were shredded 752 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: through the air. On the ground, Daki had another huge 753 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: day and just the USC team the you know, you 754 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: speak of culture, the culture difference between those two teams 755 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: is massive, and you saw, you know, Kayleb Williams looks 756 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: disinterested at times. I don't know if he's already checked out, 757 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: just looking forward to the NFL, but like just you know, 758 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: keep eating gummy worms during the timeouts, not going to 759 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: None of the players want to shake Utah's hands at 760 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 1: the end, none of the players went to the media 761 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: and talk for the first time ever after a USC game. 762 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: You know that there's just no care about the defense 763 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: from the staff and Lincoln Riley. And this is a 764 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: soft team. It's the first time I bet on USC 765 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: under Lincoln Riley in my life and it might be 766 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: the last. So yeah, good call by you in the utes. 767 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think when you look around college 768 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: basketball and college football, there's you know, ten to fifteen 769 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 2: programs that are just held to a higher standard. You're 770 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 2: sitting around one in Kentucky basketball, USC football, Duke basketball, 771 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 2: Alabama football, and they don't feel and starting with Lincoln 772 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 2: like they kind of get it. I mean that body 773 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 2: language from Caleb unless losing sucks, no one acts like 774 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 2: you should be smiling, right, but his body language is 775 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 2: beyond shitty. Obviously Lincoln having I mean he was screaming 776 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 2: at the he was having like a mental breakdown five 777 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 2: minutes into the game. And Kyle whittingham Let's face. It 778 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 2: is just I don't think people quite understand. You know, 779 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 2: within twenty years they were in the whack playing San 780 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 2: Diego State and Fresno State, like that's who they played. 781 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 2: And now they run the Pac twelve. I mean two 782 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 2: years ago they they ended Mario Christobal, sent him run 783 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 2: into Miami. Last year they swept USC. So they've been 784 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 2: to back to back Rose Bulls and I don't know 785 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: if they're going to get back this year, but they 786 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 2: definitely have the opportunity starting quarterback this year, starting quarterback, 787 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 2: their backup quarterback. Now you could argue Kyle's a little crazy. 788 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: He does full on scrimmages in August where the quarterback 789 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 2: is also and I think the guy like lacerated his kidney. 790 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 2: So their backup quarterback for cam Rising that was supposed 791 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 2: to be their quarterback has been like seasoned nding injury 792 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 2: in a live scrimmage in August. But it kind of 793 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 2: represents their program, right, how tough they are. So it's 794 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 2: why you can't discount them this week. You know, Oregon 795 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 2: should beat them, but I wouldn't feel great about betting 796 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 2: against Utah at home, would you. 797 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: Nope? Yeah, I have a rule of thumb that I'll 798 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 1: rarely break if ever, and that's do not bet against 799 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: Utah at home. Rice Ecles. There's like, it's kind of 800 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: like the Steelers at home as an underdog, youth hot 801 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: home as an underdog. I think Whittingham's numbers is as 802 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: an underdog over a field bar ridiculous. But there's just 803 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 1: some voodoo that goes on in that statement. And obviously 804 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: it's one of the best home fields home field advantages 805 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: in all of college football. Even saw that at the 806 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: Pac twelve Championship down in Vegas. It looked it was 807 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: just a seed red but at home, there's just some 808 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 1: weird things that happen, and they play up even more 809 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: and teams quarterbacks just go and die there. So yeah, 810 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: I think Oregon probably finds a way to win. But 811 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: we've seen roade Bow knicks. Bo Nix hasn't throughout his career, 812 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: he hasn't played nowhere close to as well as he 813 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: does at home. And now you're going to rice ecles 814 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: where weird things happen. You know, those two things colliding 815 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: could lead to disastrous results. So I have no money 816 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: on that game. I'll sit back and watch and enjoy it. 817 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 2: Kills dive into the National Football League as of recording this, 818 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 2: you know, I think it's more than up in the 819 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: air on Tyreek Hill and his hamstring injury. I mean 820 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 2: two A kind of alluded to that when I saw 821 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 2: him talking on Wednesday about if you can't go, we 822 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 2: step up one. Do the Patriots have life? Or was 823 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 2: just somewhat of an outlier game slash They're just going 824 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 2: to play better against their divisional opponents. Well, look at this, 825 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: they're playing it visional opponent. Now, I'm sure you got 826 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: some numbers historically, I don't care if it's Tom Brady 827 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 2: I don't care if it's Tony Easton. They're not exactly 828 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 2: dominating as a franchise down south, so that would make 829 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 2: me a little nervous. But I don't really know what 830 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 2: to make of this Patriot team because when you watch 831 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 2: them play random teams like the Saints, they get curb stomped. 832 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 2: Then you watch them play against a divisional opponent, and 833 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 2: really all three games, I mean they're two wins are 834 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 2: against the Jets and the Bills, and they played Miami 835 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 2: pretty tough too. They look like a different team. So 836 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 2: I definitely give the Patriots, not just a fighting chance. 837 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 2: But if Tyreek kills out, we know, like you said, 838 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 2: always say, Belichick loves to take away your number one option, 839 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: so boom, he slows down Wattle, who's also dealing with injuries. 840 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 2: And I don't know this, maybe Mac Jones's got a 841 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 2: little positive mojo. 842 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: Rolind Yeah, I like the Patriots here. I think this 843 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: line is too high, especially with the injuries. You also 844 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: have Tron Armstead your star left tackle, Isaiah Win your 845 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: left guard. They both just Connor Williams, your center, still 846 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 1: dealing with an injury. You mentioned Watt on the back spasms. 847 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: They can flare up at any time. I mean, this 848 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: offense is a shelve itself defense Mike, you know, is 849 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: getting healthier, but it's still not a great defense. And 850 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: the Patriots already showed that they can slow down this 851 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: Miami offense and they took away the big plays and 852 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: that was a much healthier Miami offense. And the main 853 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: reason for this is that, look the Patriots going into 854 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: last week. I mentioned this on the last week's show. 855 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: They weren't as bad. They were bad, but it wasn't 856 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: as bad as it looked. They were getting also unlucky 857 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: in turnovers, field goals, fumbles, a lot of high variant stats. 858 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing that happened last week that I 859 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 1: saw is the changes on offense. Through the first six 860 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: or seven weeks, their offensive line was an out It 861 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: was just an outright disaster. They had a bunch of injuries. 862 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: They had guys in there that were among the I 863 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: think four guys that were amongst the bottom ten ranked 864 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: offensive linemen and pass blocking. I've got of like two 865 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: hundred offensive lineman playing a lot of those guys at 866 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: the same time. Last week, you know, you get Cole 867 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: Strange back and it's not like these guys are all pros. 868 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: It's that the drop off to the replacement is huge. 869 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: So you got Cole Strange back at guard. You kicked 870 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: they kicked on when who out to right tackle? And 871 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: their right tackle has been the worst in the NFL 872 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: think of you know, PFF had greated at twenty seven 873 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: out of one hundred on the season. Barbarian Lowe and 874 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: Calvin Arrett Anderson are way below replacement level players and 875 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: that's where they were playing a right tackle. So their 876 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: offensive line finally was healthy and looked competent. And Mac 877 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: Jones needs that. Not the most mobile guy. If the 878 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: pocket craters, his footwork gets lost, he starts to make mistakes. 879 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 1: So offensive line healthier. So what does that mean? Jones 880 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: actually able to go through his progressions a little bit. 881 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: But they were able to run the ball, set up 882 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: play action. They used a ton of moment and Bill 883 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: O'Brien made a number of adjustments here put Mac Jones 884 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: under center more. They use motion seventy three percent of 885 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: the time. They used some ghost motion, but it's really 886 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: just hey, establish the run play action. Mat jowns. I 887 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: think it was seven of eight ninety eight yards on 888 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: play action so it's a lot of let's establish the run, 889 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 1: short passes and you know, we kick the winning out 890 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: to right tackle DeVante Parker, get him out of there. 891 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: He's done, he's watched, he's he can't get separation. You 892 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: get to Mario Douglas back was much better. 893 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 2: Didn't build or didn't Bill just pay him? 894 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: Yep, bad, bad, bad. He can't, he can't. He should 895 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: not be a GM anymore. So, Yeah, a lot of 896 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: the changes that O'Brien made and some of the guys 897 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: that they got back made. Their offense. Therobens is not 898 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: going to be good this year. Matchwins isn't good, but 899 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: they can be an efficient, serviceable offense that can just 900 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: move the you know, rely on the run, game, rely 901 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: ont play action short passes, control the clock, move the 902 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: ball efficiently, and their defenses. You know, it's not as 903 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: an elite old Patriots team, but it's still decent and 904 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: still going to play every weekend. Last week they were 905 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: able to get a ton of pressure on Josh Allen. 906 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: They're getting a little healthier. Maybe you get Uch back. 907 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: Their secondary is getting out there. So there's also gonna 908 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: be very high wins here in Miami this week. And 909 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: that favor is the Patriots. What the Patriots? One of 910 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: the just want to throw it short and run it. 911 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: So it's too many points in the divisional game. I 912 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: think the Patriots carry over some of the men from 913 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: last week, and a lot of that was sustainable because 914 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: of the changes that they made offensive line and some 915 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: of the play calling in motion that they were using, 916 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: and some of the guys that got back throwing the 917 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 1: Miami injuries, and I think this is too high. 918 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 2: Well, one trend we saw last week is these division 919 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 2: games are just highly contested. I don't care if it's 920 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 2: two shitty teams, if it's a Bills versus the Patriots, 921 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. You're just gonna get I mean, like 922 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers can play the Cardinals and it 923 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 2: could be tied at half. You're just going to get opponents, 924 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 2: even if they have new coaching staffs, that the players 925 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: know each other, you know their strengths and weaknesses. You're 926 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: comfortable going up against a guy a quote unquote big 927 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 2: name against a smaller name. Well, if that smaller name 928 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 2: has been a multi year starter, he's not as intimidated 929 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 2: going up against that all pro. Right, he's used to 930 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 2: seeing Aaron Donald, TJ. Watt or whoever the matchup is. 931 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 2: And I mean the games we're talking about today are 932 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 2: all divisional games, and it's just I would say that 933 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 2: tends to favor the underdog, right like Denver Kansas City. Obviously, 934 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 2: everyone all year has been making fun of Denver since 935 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,479 Speaker 2: season started. They've definitely looked a little more functional since 936 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 2: that's seventy point ass kicking. But you know, they have 937 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 2: a lot of defensive players who have just seen Patrick Mahomes. 938 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 2: Now Sean Payton is a new coach, they have a 939 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 2: brand new coaching staff. But you know, getting seven and 940 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 2: a half at home Mile High that the Chiefs have 941 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 2: definitely been known. You know that they flex their muscles 942 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 2: when they have to and sometimes they can just be 943 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 2: very sleepy. Now they still win the game. Yeah, I 944 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 2: think the Warriors have been like that for many stretches 945 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 2: over the peak Steph Curry years, and I think the 946 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 2: Chiefs definitely have that. And to me, the Chargers, we 947 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 2: talked about it last week, why we like the Chargers, 948 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 2: it's like that. I think the the Chiefs in a 949 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 2: weird way like respect them because they've played them so 950 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 2: tight over the years and they get it. They give 951 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 2: a really good effort. I can't imagine the same respect 952 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 2: that they have, not just for Denver in general because 953 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 2: they've been kicking their ass now for years, but like 954 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 2: this specific team. 955 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, I think there's too many points over a 956 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: touchdown even at seven. Look, yeah, that you mentioned that 957 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs they kind of play with their food. They 958 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: play down or up to their competition. Part of that 959 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: is and that's why one of the reasons why they've 960 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: been so bad as a bigger favorite historically with Patrick 961 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Andy Reid. They also know how to run 962 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 1: out the clock laid. But a lot of that is 963 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: that they just don't show their whole arsenal. And why 964 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: would you right, they don't show everything in the playbook. 965 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: They don't, you know, it's like, hey, we don't have 966 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: to unleash all of our our full arsenal here against 967 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: the game. We know that we're gonna win, and this 968 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: would be the perfect spot to like, hey, let's hold 969 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: things back because you just beat the Chargers, you have 970 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,959 Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Eagles coming up in your next 971 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 1: two games, so it is a perfect time to just say, 972 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: all right, we're not going to show much. I would 973 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,399 Speaker 1: say that, Look, the Chiefs probably come out a little 974 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 1: sleepy here off of a huge win, two big games 975 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: coming up, and the Broncos. Look, everyone remembers that seventy 976 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: point game. It's like how some people still remember the 977 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals beating the Cowboys. No, the Cardinals. The Cardinals suck. 978 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: They're They're horrible to get blown out by double duds 979 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: every week. But in the Broncos defense is not good. 980 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: But it's not that team, and they've gotten better. I 981 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 1: don't know what Vance Joseph was doing over the first 982 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,720 Speaker 1: forty days. I think he was on a long, extended bender. 983 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,479 Speaker 1: I've been there, so I get it. But they didn't 984 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: make any changes on the defense. They finally have. They 985 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: changed some of their pressure steams, pulse are getting healthier. 986 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: You get Browning back to j Jones back. They finally 987 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: benched to Mary Mathis last week, which is massive. He's 988 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,439 Speaker 1: been the worst corner in the league by far all year. 989 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: You look at any and that's huge because you have 990 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: Patrick's retaining their side. So what does that mean? He's 991 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: are throwing at the other corner no matter who it is. 992 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: So you get Fabian Moreau in there, he's a veteran. 993 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: It's not an elite guy, but he's serviceable starter and 994 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 1: they finally got to Mary Mathis out of there. I 995 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: don't know why they kept putting him out there, and 996 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: he was getting burned every single week. So you know, 997 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 1: some guys healthier. They made some schematic changes. You got 998 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: Mathis out of there, you get moreau in at the corner. 999 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,439 Speaker 1: This defense still not good, but it's serviceable and it's 1000 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, the last two weeks, they held the Chiefs, 1001 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: who were kind of playing out with their feod, to 1002 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: what twenty two points at home. They held the Packers 1003 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: last week to seventeen points. So this defense is a 1004 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,919 Speaker 1: little better. The offense with Look Russ is not he's washed. 1005 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 1: It is what it is. The offensive line is getting better. 1006 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: They're healthier at the skill positions. They just got to 1007 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: come out here. It's gonna be like twenty degrees. They 1008 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: just got to run the ball and keep running it 1009 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: and keep giving it to Javonte Williams, who's now at 1010 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: one hundred percent health. They didn't give it to him enough. 1011 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: In Kansas City average had on five six yards to 1012 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: carry feed him. Shorten the game. Your defense isn't as 1013 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: bad as it's been. This is too many points at 1014 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: home and this Broncos scene that isn't going anywhere. They've 1015 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: lost what for ten years? They haven't beat the Cheese 1016 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 1: in ten years. This is pretty much their Super Bowl. 1017 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: I think you get a max S effort here and 1018 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: potentially sleepy Chiefs team. I think over a touchdowns of 1019 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,399 Speaker 1: play here. 1020 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 2: Okay, another big divisional game, Minnesota at Green Bay. I 1021 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,479 Speaker 2: woke up this morning scrolling X and I saw Kurt 1022 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 2: Warner defending Jordan Love, breaking down the tape saying, no 1023 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 2: one's open. When I watch Jordan Love, even if no 1024 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 2: one's open, I see a guy that just doesn't look 1025 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,959 Speaker 2: that comfortable. Obviously, the Packers have not played well of late. 1026 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 2: Minnesota incredible win on Monday night, I mean Cousins was 1027 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 2: fucking lights out thirty five at forty five, almost three 1028 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 2: four hundred yards, and honestly, the eye test was better 1029 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 2: than the numbers, especially when you factored in Jefferson's on 1030 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 2: the side Addison coming in and out of the game. 1031 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,959 Speaker 2: He was awesome. Short week for them on the road, 1032 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 2: divisional opponent. Kind of a kitchen sink game for green Bay, right, 1033 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you lose this game, all of a sudden 1034 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 2: we start talking about are they headed toward competing to 1035 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 2: be a top five drafting team. 1036 00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1037 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,919 Speaker 2: I don't quite know what to make of this Green 1038 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,879 Speaker 2: Bay team. Besides, I don't think they're very good, but 1039 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 2: they they don't. They don't feel like a team that's 1040 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 2: going to go for and thirteen, right. They do feel 1041 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 2: more like a six or seven win team. But this 1042 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 2: is a type game. I don't think I could touch 1043 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 2: this game because the bet would be Green Bay. But 1044 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,800 Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know, maybe Mini's got a little 1045 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 2: little juice. They A lot of people are like, oh, 1046 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 2: they're not quite dead, especially when you look at the NFC. 1047 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 2: But I don't know this. This is a tough one 1048 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 2: for me. 1049 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is pack Packers all the way for me. 1050 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 1: Now you're getting plus one. This is the past five weeks. 1051 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 1: What will be seen. It's all the teams that have 1052 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 1: the big win that start getting to chatter in the 1053 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 1: media and everyone. You know, betters are like, oh, Kirk 1054 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: Cousin's MVP Vikings playoffs like this happens, you know, I 1055 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,879 Speaker 1: think this is a sixth straight week. If you pick 1056 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 1: out then. 1057 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 2: We said, we said nine ers undefeated. Now they're losing 1058 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 2: games undefeated. 1059 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: You saw the Dolphins put up seventy, they get blown out. 1060 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: You see the Bills blow them out. They get all 1061 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 1: the hype. 1062 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 2: They've lost. 1063 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,720 Speaker 1: They should have lost three straight since to the Pats, 1064 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: Johns and Jags. You know, the Niners beat the Cowboys, 1065 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: they lose two straight, the lines one four straight. Everyone's 1066 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: talking about them. They lose, you know, by one hundred 1067 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: and thirty in Baltimore. So I think this is another 1068 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 1: case where the Viking's getting a little bit too much love. Look, 1069 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: Cousins was in his bag. He has games like that, 1070 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 1: and he was shredding San Francisco. But I think a 1071 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: lot of that game also had to do with San 1072 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,879 Speaker 1: Francisco's injuries and their mistakes and party. If you look 1073 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: at Purdy's numbers, I don't know if you've seen this, 1074 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 1: like before and after the concussion, I saw they were 1075 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: pretty alarming. So I know he had a couple of mistakes, 1076 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: and I think the forty nine Ers, even with how 1077 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: great Cousins was, still win that game. 1078 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 2: Didn't twa last year, it was either Thanksgiving or Christmas 1079 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 2: when they played the Packers, got a concussion, but they 1080 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 2: didn't know, and then he like threw like four picks 1081 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 2: in the second half and everyone's like, that's the worst 1082 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 2: quarterback we've ever seen. It turns out he was concussed. 1083 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens a couple of times a year. Then 1084 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 1: you'll be like, oh, now it makes sense, like why 1085 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 1: they just didn't see any linebackers or safeties and we're 1086 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: just throwing it straight ahead. So yeah, I don't look, 1087 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 1: I'm not overreacting to that game and what the Vikings did. 1088 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: This is a Vikings team that still cannot run the 1089 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 1: ball for the life of them, so they have to 1090 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 1: just drop back and throw it forty five to fifty times. Well, 1091 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 1: that's not how you want to attack the Packers. You 1092 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 1: want to run on the Packers their run funnel defense 1093 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: gyre Alexander who look the backers. If the Packers are 1094 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: two and four, they've had three losses by a combined 1095 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,840 Speaker 1: seven points they led by in the fourth quarter and 1096 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 1: three of their four games. Their offense has been so 1097 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: inconsistent as you'd expect with Jordan Love and an offense 1098 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: that has injuries. Has had injuries on the offensive line 1099 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,879 Speaker 1: and wide receiver for whatever reason. Their offense grades out 1100 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 1: dead last the NFL in the first half and number 1101 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: one in ePaper play in the second half. Makes sense 1102 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 1: of that because I can't. But I don't think they're 1103 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,359 Speaker 1: as bad as they've looked or as people think. And 1104 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 1: this is a good matchup for them because Minnesota can't 1105 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: run the ball. Gire Alexander, one of the best corners 1106 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL, didn't play last week and he's missed 1107 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: a couple of games. He's gonna play, so you can 1108 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: put him, you can shadow Addison with him. No Jefferson 1109 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: and I think that that this Minnesota offense will not 1110 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,240 Speaker 1: look anywhere close outdoors to what it did last week. 1111 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball, the Green Bay offense, 1112 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what Matt with the floor is 1113 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 1: doing play calling wise. They're not really taking any shots. 1114 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: Granted they've had a ton of. 1115 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 2: Injuries, but does he trust the quarterback? 1116 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not. But they're they're throwing there, they're running 1117 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: it too much, they're throwing it way too short. But 1118 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: guess what, that's what we'll work against. The Vikings. The 1119 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 1: Vikings are blitzing a ton and you can run on them. 1120 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: Vikings are twenty fifth in defensive success rate against the run. 1121 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: Maybe Aaron Jones is finally healthy. He's only getting like 1122 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: ten touches of the game. I'm not even sure what's 1123 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: going on there, even if they're a buy. But you know, 1124 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 1: even aj Dillon can have success getting like three four 1125 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: yards against this Vikings defense. And the Vikings what they're 1126 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: doing under floor is Look, they leave the NFL and 1127 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: blitz rate at fifty eight percent, but they also are 1128 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: taking away the explosive play. They have double the lead average. 1129 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 1: You know, they're double the second team and drop eight coverage. 1130 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: So what Flores is doing with this really, you know, 1131 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: this disunit that lacks and talent, he's getting the most 1132 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: out of it, but he's bringing a ton of blitzer 1133 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: and he's dropping his safety's way back. He's saying, look, 1134 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: we're going to try to get pressure on you and 1135 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: create a negative play, but we're also not going to 1136 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 1: let you get you know, thirty forty our games. You're 1137 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: still gonna have to earn it down the field. We 1138 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 1: hope that you'll make a mistake. But that's that kind 1139 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 1: of doesn't really work against the Packers. The Packers aren't 1140 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,439 Speaker 1: trying to drip back and throw it down the field. 1141 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 1: They're trying to run it and they're trying to short pass, 1142 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: and that's what can work against Minnesota and Jordan Love, 1143 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 1: for all his shortcomings, he actually look a lot of 1144 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 1: variants in these numbers over you know, just six games, 1145 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: but his numbers against the Blitz are pretty good. He 1146 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: has four touchdowns, no interceptions against the glitch, seven touchdowns, 1147 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: seven interception interceptions when he's not blitzed. So I think 1148 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: this is the good by low Spot Sell High the 1149 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 1: Viking short week, and it's a decent matchup on both 1150 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: sides if you get into it. I just don't think 1151 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,479 Speaker 1: the Vikings are as good as they looked last week. 1152 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 1: Aren't as bad as they happen. They're getting a little healthier. 1153 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: I think this is your Bilo Cell high Spot Divisional 1154 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 1: home short dog at home outdoors. Give me the pack here. 1155 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 2: I know you told me you wanted to get weird. 1156 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 2: Texans at Panthers. 1157 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, this this is my favorite over of the week. 1158 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: And you would some people might be saying, like Texans, 1159 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: you know Panthers over. Well, here's here's the case. Well, 1160 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: first of all, the Texans are fast. They play fast, 1161 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 1: and they've been playing their I think top five in 1162 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: pace in the NFL, and Shroud's been good off the jump. 1163 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 1: Bryce Young has not been. But he showed some flashes, 1164 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, the two weeks before their bye week. And 1165 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 1: that's important because both of these teams had bye weeks 1166 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 1: leading up to this game with new staffs, new schemes 1167 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: and rookie quarterbacks. And if you go back thirty years, 1168 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: overs with rookie quarterbacks after a bye week are hitting 1169 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: at about sixty one percent over a thirty year time, 1170 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: which makes sense. It's like, all right, let's reevaluate the 1171 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: game might have been too fast. You get like two 1172 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 1: weeks to kind of reset what are we doing? Well, 1173 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: what are we not? I think Bryce Young can really 1174 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: benefit from that. But I think the biggest thing here 1175 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 1: is that Frank Rereich handed over play calling duties to 1176 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Thomas Brown right before the buye against the Dolphins. And 1177 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: the most interesting thing to come out of that game 1178 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 1: is with Bryce Young before then the Panthers, with the 1179 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: slowest team in the NFL, that one game under Thomas Brown. 1180 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: It comes from the McVeigh tree love tempo. Bryce Young 1181 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: loved when running tempo at Alabama they were. They led 1182 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 1: the league in Week six in no huddle rate. They 1183 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: were one of the fastest teams that weekend, so I 1184 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 1: don't think the market's fully accounting for that. I think 1185 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 1: the Panthers, with Thomas Brown calling plays after the buye, 1186 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: I think they're going to go from one of the 1187 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: slowest teams to one of the fastest. So even if 1188 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 1: it's a disaster with young at least they're going fast. 1189 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 1: So this game, I think we'll we played a really 1190 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: high tempo. I think both book Stroud's been good from 1191 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: the jump, and he's even had a disastrous offensive line 1192 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: in front of the I mean, you're different guys out 1193 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 1: every week, so you have a healthier offensive line two 1194 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 1: weeks to reset, so I think both quarterbacks will play better. 1195 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how much better Strouds can play as 1196 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: a rookie, but I think and this game will be 1197 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 1: played at a high pace. Neither defense is any good, 1198 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think this has a like just sneaky 1199 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: shootout potential where it turns into like that narrative game 1200 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,919 Speaker 1: where you know your two rookies are battling it out 1201 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 1: and it turns actually into a fun game that no 1202 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 1: one was anticipating being fun. But I think it's the 1203 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 1: pace here. I think that you're gonna see the Panthers 1204 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 1: offense look a little better. S not great, but just 1205 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 1: a little better. But most importantly, they're just gonna be 1206 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: going fast and using a lot of no huddle in tempo. 1207 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 2: There's some games, I mean, there are just some big 1208 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 2: swing games this week. 1209 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Now. 1210 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 2: You know, pretty more likely out no one's cleared concussion 1211 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 2: protocol playing the Bengals off a buy the Browns Deshaun 1212 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 2: Watson situation is a disaster. He's out on the road 1213 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 2: at Seattle. Who if Cleveland loses and the Niners can't 1214 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 2: beat the Bengals, all of a sudden, Seattle would be 1215 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 2: in first place in the West. And then the Steelers 1216 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 2: like that they're playing the Jags. You would think, like 1217 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, to be like like the 1218 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Jags in that game. But now you know, the Steelers 1219 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 2: got a little momentum at home. That's probably a weird 1220 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 2: spot for Tomlin usually as better as the underdog, but 1221 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 2: I this weekend could get weird, that's all I know. 1222 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, the you saw the Ravens are hitting. 1223 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 2: The Ravens get the Cardinals, they'll kill them. 1224 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So the Ravens are hitting their stride. The 1225 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Browns are like they're I mean, if they could just 1226 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: stay healthy at quarterback. 1227 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 2: They just had average quarterback play, just like a top 1228 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 2: fifteen to sixteen guy Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo when they 1229 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 2: were kind of good, they'd be fine. 1230 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: Right, Look, the Browns will still they're still going to 1231 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: be in the mix. And you mentioned sping games. The 1232 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 1: last two weeks with PJ Walker. You get the Niners 1233 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: to miss a forty yard field goal and then you 1234 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 1: get that p I call on a ball that landed 1235 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: in Texas and against the Colts and uncatchable. By the way, 1236 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,919 Speaker 1: the uncatchable rule in the NFL, they every four weeks 1237 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,919 Speaker 1: they'll say uncatchable, but or every four years, I should say, 1238 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: I always think they take the rule away, like because 1239 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: they never worry about un catchall. Then every once in 1240 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 1: a while they'll call and catch one. 1241 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 2: Like oh yeah, when we were kids, they used to 1242 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 2: call it all the time, didn't they all the time. 1243 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,920 Speaker 1: They would have a conference and then they would do this. 1244 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Everyone would do this on the sidelines to the coaches 1245 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 1: and then the ref would say pick up the flag, 1246 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 1: say the ball was uncatchable. It happens once at a 1247 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 1: more so it's crazy. But look those two games they 1248 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 1: could have easily lost, and they got the two wins 1249 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 1: with PJ. Huge because now you're four and two because 1250 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 1: they have C North. I mean, the Bengals are in 1251 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 1: the last place at three and three, and you know 1252 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 1: they're still gonna be underdogs this week. Who's that game? 1253 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Your way behind the ball? I still think the forty 1254 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 1: nine ers seen that they lose. I think the game 1255 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 1: is much more important for the Bengals because the fort 1256 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 1: Nits still have the Seahawks twice coming up. The division 1257 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: is still weak like the Bengals. Division is brutal. Bengals 1258 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 1: have the heart of scheduling the NFL remaining schedule in 1259 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 1: the NFL if you look at strength to schedule, So 1260 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: this game is much more important for the Bengals. I 1261 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 1: do think that, Look, if the forty nine Ers lose 1262 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: this game, weird things can still happen. But you could 1263 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 1: throw out the one seed, but it doesn't really matter 1264 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 1: with that team. It's that they're a team that's it 1265 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if if you were outdoors and weather they 1266 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 1: can kind of play the same way. 1267 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 2: Eagles would feel like a lot for the one seed, wouldn't. 1268 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: They Yep, yep, Well, I mean look the the. 1269 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 2: They still play Seattle. Yeah, the Eagles. 1270 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: I will say that the Eagles, they it was really 1271 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 1: important for them with these new coordinators and they've had 1272 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: some struggles, but like they could have lost to Washington 1273 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: if they went if River Paddle Boa Ron went for two. 1274 01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 1: But the they have really import and to get off 1275 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: to a good start because they played They're at the Commanders, 1276 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,439 Speaker 1: which is not a lock. Like if that gets the seven, 1277 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 1: I'll play Washington. They're watching them. Tends to just played 1278 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: them tough. But after that game, Eagles go Cowboys, Chiefs, Bills, Niners, Cowboys, Seahawks. 1279 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 1: That is the hardest six game stretch I think I've 1280 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:26,959 Speaker 1: ever seen. I mean Cowboys twice, Chiefs, Bills, Niners, and 1281 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 1: at Seattle to cap it all off. I mean that 1282 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 1: is festival. So you could see them go three and 1283 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,880 Speaker 1: three over that stretch. So there's still a lot of 1284 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 1: football to be played. But yeah, with only one one 1285 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 1: seed in home field, it's there's every week is even 1286 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 1: more important than it's ever been. So I'm looking forward 1287 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:45,919 Speaker 1: to Sunday. 1288 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 2: And then Monday we get the Raiders. That should be 1289 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 2: fun at Detroit. 1290 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, these primetime games, man, they when can we start flexing? 1291 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 1: We got in prime time. We're gonna have aagent and 1292 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:04,640 Speaker 1: uh and uh O'Connell. I mean it's bad Acre tonight. 1293 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 2: What are we doing? Okay, Stucky, Well, let's enjoy the weirdness. 1294 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,919 Speaker 2: Uh no, buys, I mean we got a full slate 1295 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 2: of games. There's sixteen games this weekends, so there's you 1296 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 2: better have multiple TVs and iPad because there's a lot 1297 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 2: of shit going on come Sunday, So enjoy it. I'll 1298 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 2: talk to you next week. 1299 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, have a good weekend. Brother. The volume