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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like the Indianas, the Orlandos, the Utah Jazz,

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Speaker 1: some love. So I was on that like I don't

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Speaker 1: some of these other teams that's doing well. So thank

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Speaker 1: what it is. Man, it's KG certified. Man. We're here

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Speaker 1: with the man himself, Man Tyreeze Halliberg. Man, thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining me to man. I appreciate it. Man, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like I said, Man, you were

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Speaker 2: I'll just say my confidence, my confidence, and I think everybody.

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Speaker 2: I think there are certain guys that can relate to.

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Speaker 2: Last year was my first year of being like the guy,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So last year was my

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Speaker 2: understanding like if I don't shoot, I ain't shooting enough,

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Speaker 2: That was my first year of having to do that.

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Speaker 2: So this year, having a year of that under my belt,

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Speaker 2: what I can do differently, And my preparation was correct

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Speaker 2: knowing like, all right, we're working end of the shot

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Speaker 2: I think, just to be honest, my teacher is growing

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. I'm watching y'all offense become almost like a defense.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just trying to be even killed, you

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Speaker 1: A lot of maturity, Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 2: For sure, And I think that that rains from coach Carlisle.

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Speaker 2: Us getting Bruce. I think it's helped a lot. Like

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts of your game is your patience.

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Speaker 1: You are moving at a high rate. You're not out

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Speaker 1: he got he got it. He got it, he got it,

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Speaker 2: And you know, Coach Carliles talks about Steve Nash, J

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Speaker 2: I mean, And so the game is changing different obviously

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Speaker 2: Steven the sons were you know, getting up and down

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Speaker 2: kind of like I'm the last peer point guard, right

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Speaker 2: there's not a ton of peer point guards. But I

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Speaker 2: like he didn't he didn't have to do that, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like so that that's the interesting part.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the NBA, to be honest, I don't

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Speaker 1: You like the two guard front, you like the two

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of I think they pay they

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Speaker 1: But I'm seeing it more parent now. It kind of

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Speaker 1: Are you a fan of the two point the two

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Speaker 2: I think it's just it's situationally based, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's based on how people can play off each other. Right,

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Speaker 2: So like obviously me being in Sacramento with Fox right,

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Speaker 2: don't know how it works with us together because we

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Speaker 2: Fox in disservice to take the ball in his hands,

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Speaker 2: and probably me the service take the ball to my hands,

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Speaker 2: you know. So I think it just depends on the situation.

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Speaker 2: There's certain situations where it can work because guys can

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Speaker 2: play better off the ball. But I think that we

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Speaker 2: and I have the ball in my hands a lot.

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Speaker 2: I'm capable to play off the ball, but they want

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Speaker 2: me to have it more where the you know, the

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Speaker 2: guards next to me can can have it if they

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Speaker 2: need it, but they used to play it off of it.

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Speaker 1: Answer, that is fun because this is for pe for later,

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Speaker 1: because me and p are you about this when you

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Speaker 1: Now you in that scoring position, that mindset has changed,

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Speaker 1: right for sure. It's not a playmake it. It's more

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Speaker 1: Talk about the guys you play with. Man, I always

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we just we got some dogs.

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Speaker 2: You talked about it. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 2: and like I can relate to these people. I think

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Speaker 2: that's what they appreciate about me.

431
00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,960
Speaker 1: I love it, man, I love it. What's your vision

432
00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,920
Speaker 1: for yourself? Man? Like, what's what's your what's your overall

433
00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:53,840
Speaker 1: vision for yourself?

434
00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:53,959
Speaker 2: Man?

435
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,200
Speaker 1: When you see yourself, Like, like, what's the end goal

436
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:57,840
Speaker 1: for you?

437
00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I just want to have a that's

438
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,160
Speaker 2: an impact on this game. Like that's that's that means

439
00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,320
Speaker 2: more to me than anything I want. Obviously. I want

440
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,240
Speaker 2: to accomplish everything I can individually. I want to win championships.

441
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,040
Speaker 2: I want to do all that. But I think what

442
00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,080
Speaker 2: matters most of me is like leaving my imprint on

443
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 2: this game and a legacy, you know what I mean.

444
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,320
Speaker 2: Like I'm the first NBA player from my area, Like

445
00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,320
Speaker 2: nobody's ever done this before, you know what I mean?

446
00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,760
Speaker 2: So I want to like have a lasting impact where

447
00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,240
Speaker 2: you know, kids and their kids are looking up to

448
00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,800
Speaker 2: what I did, you know what I mean. And so

449
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,959
Speaker 2: I want to leave my imprint on this game. And uh,

450
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,720
Speaker 2: I just want to milk every ounce of God given

451
00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,240
Speaker 2: ability that I'm you know, I'm giving in the opportunity

452
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,960
Speaker 2: that I have here, you know what I mean. So

453
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,879
Speaker 2: I don't take this for granted. It's a crazy, crazy

454
00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,439
Speaker 2: situation I'm in right now and my life is crazy,

455
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't change it for the world. And just

456
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,560
Speaker 2: I want to keep getting better, like I don't want ever.

457
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,720
Speaker 2: I know, I got contract this summer and it was

458
00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,200
Speaker 2: like people think, like that's the time to chill, Like no,

459
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,359
Speaker 2: it's time, like I gotta go harder, you know what

460
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,320
Speaker 2: I mean. I gotta I gotta prove it like it ain't.

461
00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,840
Speaker 2: I ain't here to get one, like I'm going to

462
00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,280
Speaker 2: get two, three, or as many as I can, you

463
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,879
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So just keep going. And you know,

464
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to put a I don't ever like

465
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 2: putting a ceiling on it, you know, because you don't

466
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 2: you don't know what could happen, you know what I mean.

467
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,520
Speaker 2: So there ain't no ceiling for me. I'm just I've

468
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,159
Speaker 2: already blown past well, my expectations were to get here,

469
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,120
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna continue to blow past expectations.

470
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,439
Speaker 1: Before growing up, man, I know you probably had a

471
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,120
Speaker 1: number of different influences, but who was that one player

472
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,639
Speaker 1: or players that actually gave you the belief that, you know,

473
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,119
Speaker 1: I mean, I can do this or you know what,

474
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try this, And yeah.

475
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,159
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I think for me, it was

476
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 2: like I was just I became obsessed with basketball around

477
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 2: like when I was like ten eleven years old, right,

478
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 2: like I was like, I know where every player go

479
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,959
Speaker 2: to college, I know where every player then played. Is

480
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 2: like I'm obsessed with this, you know what I mean.

481
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 2: And so I don't think it was anybody specifically, but

482
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 2: it was like I just became obsessed with watching, Like

483
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,879
Speaker 2: I would stay up late to watch the Clippers and

484
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 2: watch like CP and watch Steph like I remember vividly,

485
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 2: like my one of my best friends growing up, Jose

486
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 2: We used to walk to school together and I remember

487
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 2: when Steph dropped fifty five in the garden and like

488
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 2: before that, I was like step is the next one,

489
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And like so like to

490
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,199
Speaker 2: see that growth and stuff that always like that was

491
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,399
Speaker 2: fun for me, and so like it was it was

492
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 2: just like becoming a fan of the game and just

493
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 2: becoming obsessed with it, you know what I mean. Like

494
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch as much as I can and know

495
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 2: as much about the game as I can to get

496
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 2: to where I want to go. And like for me,

497
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 2: the NBA wasn't a it wasn't a thought. It wasn't

498
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 2: a thought for me. It was like I got some

499
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 2: college offers and I'm gonna go play college and then

500
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 2: you know, from college, I'm gonna try to fight. I'm like,

501
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 2: you know, maybe have a good pro career, like play

502
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 2: overseas or maybe fight to get to the NBA. I'm

503
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,959
Speaker 2: gonna try. And after I played USA between my freshman

504
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 2: sophomore year with like K Cunningham and all them dudes,

505
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 2: and they was like it's gonna be the number one

506
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: pick and all this stuff, and I was like, dang,

507
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: I belong here to that, you know what I mean.

508
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 2: And so I think that gave me the confidence to

509
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: be like, nah, like I can do this for real.

510
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Speaker 1: I see a data a lot of games. Yeah, that's

511
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 1: what that is.

512
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like.

513
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: Many. I love his energy. Talk about your dad a

514
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 1: little bit, man, Yeah, I think the pops man, Yeah,

515
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 1: he got all the love for me.

516
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 2: He gonna show me all love possible. And I think

517
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 2: that's what the NBA does better than any league, is

518
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: they we as a league, we empower like black fathers,

519
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I think that's people

520
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 2: can on social media get annoyed with the attention that

521
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 2: they get sometimes, but it's like, how can you get

522
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 2: annoyed with the man showing love to his son. You

523
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 2: know enough you see it with like Job's dad, krly

524
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 2: Town's dad, LaMelo's dad all you know. I think that

525
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: means the world. And we talk about like representation matters,

526
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. People always see that. And

527
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 2: for me, like one day when I have a kid

528
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: and when he does whatever he wants to do in life,

529
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 2: I hope I can be half the father my dad

530
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: is to show that love and support behind him. So yeah,

531
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: it means the world. He's there all the time, my

532
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 2: mom there all the time. Just to have your family

533
00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: with you.

534
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Speaker 1: It's nothing like it says everything man, families everything shot

535
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 1: the pops doing it. Man, it's a loute, I got

536
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: something for you. Okay.

537
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 2: So you played in Minnesota, right, like a smaller market,

538
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, trying to help bring something to something right,

539
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: and I and the people always talk about like, you know,

540
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: you and Indie, you ain't never gonna be able to

541
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 2: get people to come with you, you know, to come

542
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 2: rock with you. My question to you is like for

543
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 2: you mentally and your approach to things, what was your

544
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: approach when you were thinking like how am I going

545
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 2: to get guys to come want to play with me

546
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: and like help help build something.

547
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Speaker 1: So when you spoke about being from Oscotch, I'm from

548
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: a very small town in Greenville, from Greenville, South Carolina,

549
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: And uh, you know it's not known for it's it's

550
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: it's football South. You know, Georgia's two hours, Charlotte is

551
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: an hour, but it's it's a foot it's football world.

552
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: So no one really came down there for basketball. You

553
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: know when I when I started playing basketball, yeah, I

554
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: started flying and similar to how you're talking, I fell

555
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: in love with it very early. It wasn't good and

556
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: I just chased it up. Super competitive, had a bunch

557
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: of energy and my travels bro I'm used to coming

558
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: from where it's not a lot of raw. It's not

559
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: New York, it's not Atlanta, it's not none of that.

560
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: So I got to Minnesota that felt similar, like, you know,

561
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: it's not a lot of expectations here. The guys they

562
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: had on the team that was trying to get rid

563
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: of and move it around and just it was just

564
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: a bunch of moving parts. But I was sitting up

565
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: here like an avid basketball player, no matter what's going on,

566
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm still love to do what I'm doing and do

567
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: it at this rate. I just want to be better.

568
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: So as I started getting better, I didn't know that

569
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: people want to play with people that care, have passion.

570
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: You know, when I hear you speak, you sound like me. Bro.

571
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: I watch a ton of film. I'm a point guard

572
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: trapped in the forward's body or a big body. You know, patterns.

573
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm able to catch triple patterns. I'm able to you know,

574
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: be able to turn around to the ball and defend

575
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: it a certain way. So I see it. So I

576
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: understand a lot of guard talk. But what you don't

577
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 1: know is that you're playing the way you play. You

578
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: don't know who wants to play with your styff the

579
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: way you play and that's what I didn't know. I

580
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: had a very best friend at the time named Stephane

581
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: Marlberry who went to Georgia Tech for a year. We

582
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: were real friends, so I knew he was coming out.

583
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: He came boo when he got to the team, and

584
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: now it's him and I. So we started thinking, like, man,

585
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: who else can we get there? And you start changing

586
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: the ideas of you know what this place said, it

587
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: is small market, but shit, Janni's plays in Milwaukee. They

588
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: want that, mom right. It's about what teams want to

589
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: play with what players and can that team be that team?

590
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: And that's what it really came down to. And what

591
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: I learned also in that opportunity is that everybody has

592
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: to be on the same page as winning. They wanted

593
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: started off that. Once we got going and they got

594
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: the cracking and we was going and going and going,

595
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: it was like, ah, now I want it to be

596
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: monseeing I want And then it started changing on what

597
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: we said the goal was and that changed that whole dynamic.

598
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: And when that changed, then everybody's going the separate way.

599
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: You know what it is when you're trying to win it,

600
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: it's got to be hands two feet in two hands

601
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: in you know what I'm saying. And when you don't

602
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: have that, yeah, it changes that. But the fact that

603
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: you are in the small market doesn't mean anything. Indiana.

604
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: It is God when it comes to basketball. Basketball's religion there.

605
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna always sell out. Y'all gonna always have people

606
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: that care, booing, chating, being there, going to go stow

607
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: high five and pumping gas. Hey, keep it going. That's

608
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: the inside that you got. That when you're on the

609
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: outside and you in Cleveland or you in Detroit and

610
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: you're looking down in Indiana and you're looking at that ship,

611
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: but when you in the inside looking out you it's

612
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: all sunshine in here. You got you got the whole

613
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: wall behind you, got fans. Yeah, Yeah, y'all. Y'all got

614
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: a spirit in Indiana. And I see it in the crowd.

615
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: They're following you. Bro, you do you got it? Bro?

616
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: You little boy blew out this mollfucker. You hear me,

617
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: You were it, Bro, You're the Holler Burden effect. Bro.

618
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm watching you talk about the job effect a lot

619
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: with Memphis, and obviously you see how they Bro, you

620
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: got it. I'm a fuck, I'm fucking I'm I'm who.

621
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: I sit here and I watched this shit like I'm like,

622
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm an omen like the whole robe sitting up here

623
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 1: watching you. Bro. I watch everything. I watch everything. That's

624
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: why I say it. On the floor last night, I

625
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: didn't get to catch all game, but I wanted to

626
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: be on the floor to catch and see and watch

627
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: and analyze and see what I'm seeing. My girl was

628
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: sitting there trying to talk to me. I was just like,

629
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: huh yeah, huh yeah, oh yeah, I hear you r yeah,

630
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: But I love it, man, And I see what you're

631
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 1: doing and you're changing the game. So believe in what

632
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: you're doing. I see, I see the work that you're

633
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: putting in cause you just don't wake up and be

634
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: like this. Keep doing what you do. You know, say

635
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: less and hear less, you know, follow that heart and

636
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You got you something, And yes, my friend,

637
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: you are in the fucking conversation. Real shit, my dog,

638
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: keep going, I got you, my dog, Thank you. You

639
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: got a nickname.

640
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 2: I don't got a nickname. You ain't got a nickname,

641
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: I don't think, so we gotta come over with nick

642
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: everybody's you know, growing up, it was tied and reason.

643
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: You know, I don't got one yet, nothing stuck yet.

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Speaker 2: We gotta figure it out.

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Speaker 1: And I think Halliburn owned by Dick Cheney or something, right,

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Speaker 1: like some some mother ship right like what the fuck

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Speaker 1: you have to come over with the door fashion? But yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. Man, anything you think I

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Speaker 1: can help you with, men, you let me know, of course.

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Speaker 1: Love you know what it is, Ty Halliburn y'all JG

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Speaker 1: certified dude