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Speaker 1: podcast was trafted first overall. Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus,

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Speaker 1: and I am joined in a room filled with heroes,

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Speaker 1: is up ois? Hey, Dan, the twenty nineteen NFL draft

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Speaker 1: It's very cute, all four of us on our little

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Speaker 1: happen two years in a row again, and you could

429
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Speaker 1: probably go further than uh same exact names twenty two

430
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Speaker 1: thousand years. We could be well, someone someone asked the question,

431
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Speaker 1: I believe you know they gave away season tickets for

432
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Speaker 1: a hundred years at the beginning of this draft. Well, like,

433
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Speaker 1: what's the odds in in Vegas where the Raiders are

434
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Speaker 1: moving right now that there will be an NFL in

435
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Speaker 1: one years? Because I think you gotta at least put

436
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Speaker 1: it on the board. There won't be a human race

437
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: in a hundred years at least, that's like possible, very possible. Right,

438
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Speaker 1: So then I'm just saying you might not get the

439
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Speaker 1: hundred you think it's so highly of the realm that

440
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Speaker 1: they exist within the we're the generation that's going to

441
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Speaker 1: bring down humanity or or the next next I think

442
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Speaker 1: be here football. I think it's a lunch shot. I'm

443
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Speaker 1: just saying every it's not that humans won't be here,

444
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: is that humans and in artificial intelligence will merge into

445
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Speaker 1: one and become a new spank. Okay, so you think

446
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: they'll do the NFL draft then, but then the NFL

447
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Speaker 1: won't be gone. That'll be that will be a badass football,

448
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: like like, there's another sport that has overtaken the NFL.

449
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: But does that mean NFL ceased to exist? I mean,

450
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: the NFL has some issues they need to figure out

451
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Speaker 1: to still be I'm just saying I feel like I'm

452
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Speaker 1: putting my money on the league being around and next

453
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Speaker 1: giving me the stuff not allowed not no, I mentioned

454
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Speaker 1: these things. I guess I like that. I was more

455
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Speaker 1: thinking like Josh Allen also kind of like a basic name.

456
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Speaker 1: In a hundred years, I feel like with the cyb Worgs,

457
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna have like way more interesting names. But note,

458
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Speaker 1: like number five the Bucks step and White loved that pick.

459
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Speaker 1: We can move on, we can want to discuss it

460
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Speaker 1: at all, but it was like, did I skipped over

461
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Speaker 1: that an impact? Let's go back to that. You know,

462
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: the Bucks have been skipped over on NFL anytimes, so yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: we should talk about the fifth overall pick. Bucks fans

464
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Speaker 1: were going nuts just Nowvertheless, four minutes or credit to

465
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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Yes, they get Devin White, the linebacker l

466
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Speaker 1: s u the reigning Dick buck Is Award winner. This

467
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Speaker 1: guy is a home run West right. This feels like

468
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Speaker 1: not only one of the safest picks, but also brings

469
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Speaker 1: a ton of upside. I don't think anybody had a

470
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Speaker 1: bad word to about this. Devin White had the film

471
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Speaker 1: and the numbers. He's got everything. I tell you. You You

472
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Speaker 1: know who's had a good at least a potentially good

473
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Speaker 1: offseason here, Todd Bulls, I got a chance to have

474
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Speaker 1: a nice rebound taking over one of the worst defenses

475
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Speaker 1: in the league in terms of production, and it has

476
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Speaker 1: a lot of players there to work with. Just ha

477
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Speaker 1: to hope they don't cut Geryald McCoy. Alright, So Alan

478
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: goes to the Jags, and then t J. Hockinson, the

479
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Speaker 1: first tight end off the board at of Iowa, goes

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Speaker 1: to the Detroit Lions, picked eight overall. This is the

481
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Speaker 1: the Mackey Award winner Mark and that is obviously I

482
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Speaker 1: know that top tight end, uh and the guy was

483
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Speaker 1: an absolute stud at Iowa and he is mark an

484
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Speaker 1: important addition to Alliance offense that could use a little

485
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Speaker 1: more fire power. And you know, after whipping kind of

486
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Speaker 1: on Rickie Broun about five years ago, they weren't afraid

487
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Speaker 1: to jump back in and invest in a tight end

488
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Speaker 1: and maybe they hit on this one. They the Lions

489
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: last year ranked thirty one and receptions and receiving yards

490
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Speaker 1: at the tight end position. So it's a need and

491
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Speaker 1: Iowa has pumped these dudes out because this is where

492
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Speaker 1: George Kittle came from. But this is not George Kittle

493
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Speaker 1: in the current incarnation. From the scouting reports, it sounds

494
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Speaker 1: and west. You mentioned this during the mock draft episode

495
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Speaker 1: where putting him in the top ten. Not a lot

496
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Speaker 1: of people, not everyone agreed with that idea that he's

497
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Speaker 1: a very good he can give you essentially sort of

498
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Speaker 1: a safe He's a safe tight end, but he's not

499
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Speaker 1: necessarily a star tight end and brings blocking in some

500
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Speaker 1: receiving skills. So I don't know. I don't think it's

501
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Speaker 1: a blow you away next robbed ron Kowski type guy.

502
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: But this could be one of the most improved offenses

503
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Speaker 1: in the league because at the end of the year

504
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Speaker 1: last year, there was no carry On Johnson, there was

505
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Speaker 1: no Marvin Jones, and then those guys are healthy. You

506
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Speaker 1: add Danny m and Doyle, you add Hawkinson, Jesse James

507
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Speaker 1: for whatever he is, but just being healthy and adding

508
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: a couple of new guys, they could be improved. I

509
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Speaker 1: think draft knicks need to calm down on with the

510
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: whole positional value thing. Let's take down positional value. Eventually

511
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: they get to people get too carried away. How many

512
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: defensive end busts do you need to have in the

513
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Speaker 1: top ten to twelve to like just allow a tight

514
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: end to be drafted? Uh, it's like a tighten, A

515
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: worthwhile tight end absolutely changes your team. Also, it's not

516
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Speaker 1: two thousand in one two thousand nineteen tight end arrow up. Mark,

517
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Speaker 1: Let's just try to be diligent in the branding. It's

518
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Speaker 1: not just our mock draft. It was our first annual

519
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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler mock draft. That's why you're here. I mean,

520
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Speaker 1: I gotta breathe through that and you correct it. We

521
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Speaker 1: want to we want to just imprint that in every

522
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Speaker 1: football fan's mind. Well, I will not. You know, there's

523
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Speaker 1: not a whole lot more reasons to mention that exercise

524
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Speaker 1: from here on out. How many more hits hits do

525
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Speaker 1: we have? I mean, I nailed, do you? When he

526
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Speaker 1: was making his fictions, the Raiders corrected that they took

527
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: the running back. I noted not. They did not trade up,

528
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: and they also did not take Daniel Jones at number four.

529
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Speaker 1: We gave you a halfy for Josh Jacobs and you

530
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: got one and two, so you got and you over

531
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Speaker 1: under was three. Somehow I came under you got two

532
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: and a half. Total. Yeah, I mean that's a mess.

533
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Speaker 1: Wait didn't you have Jacobs? Everyone I got a half?

534
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: Everyone had Kyler, Murray and Posa, so you could almost

535
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: arguing and almost everyone had Jacobs to the Raiders too.

536
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Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still gonna give you a full one

537
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: for that. Let's do what the crowd thinks about Mark's

538
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: first mock. Look if I can make them smile, what

539
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: else in my hair? For all right, let's move on

540
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: the Bills. They had been rumored to be maybe interested

541
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Speaker 1: in trading up. Uh. Instead they stay put at nine

542
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: and they get the guy. A lot of people said

543
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: they that they wanted Ed Oliver, the defensive tackle out

544
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: of Houston had always slandered the man a little bit.

545
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: On the first Dnnuel Mark Sessler mock draft. There's a

546
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Speaker 1: bunch of comments about him being a potential knucklehead. We

547
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Speaker 1: didn't add a lot of more context to that. Uh

548
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: what should be known though, and we did, We referenced it,

549
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: but didn't really dig in as how good this guy

550
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: was during his three years with Houston Mark. Do you

551
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: know what the college football's top interior defensive lineman award

552
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: is called? Like, what do you get? It's the Outland Trophy.

553
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: Certainly guess what Oliver's got that in his case and

554
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: the Bill's offense, Greg Bell's defense rather, uh, they have

555
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: to be thrilled to get this guy fall to the lap.

556
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: And it's a team that is adding pieces a great

557
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: landing spot for him because I think he landed on

558
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: a defense and knows how to use him. I mean,

559
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 1: maybe not moving to Buffalo and all that. I'm just saying, like,

560
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: maximize his gifts. And that's one thing I like about

561
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: Oliver reading about him. He's he was a top level

562
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: defensive lineman three straight years and so teams adjusted, they

563
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: knew what was coming when at Oliver was stepping on

564
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Speaker 1: the field, and he still produced a year after year,

565
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Speaker 1: which is very tough to do at the collegiate level.

566
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Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are one year wonders, or

567
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Speaker 1: there's someone like Noah Fan who has one great year

568
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: where he maybe he would have gotten drafted higher if

569
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Speaker 1: he came out early, then doesn't do as well he

570
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Speaker 1: did it year after year. A lot of people at

571
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Speaker 1: him the third or fourth player in this draft, and

572
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Speaker 1: they get him at nine. They did have the second

573
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Speaker 1: ranked defense the Bills, but next Gen Stats notes that

574
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Speaker 1: they had the third lowest pressure rate from the interior

575
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Speaker 1: defensive line. So he fills a need to I love

576
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: that the scouts mix their um. He's all over the map.

577
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: One guy says he's a playmaking rascal. Someone else called

578
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: him blunt, comma immature. So a bit of a wild package.

579
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Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, when you meet those people and they're

580
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Speaker 1: your friends, they're the most interesting friend. Here, here's a

581
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: news flash. Most most of these players immature. They should

582
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Speaker 1: be I mean, like right, a relative they're looking for here,

583
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like you misspoke, But I

584
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: get your point. No, they shouldn't be immature, but just

585
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Speaker 1: normal for a for a it's almost impossible not to

586
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Speaker 1: be immature. You're throwing ten million dollars at them. They

587
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 1: should not be immature. Let's move on. That's a debate

588
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: that we will unpack in greater detail on the maturity. Sure,

589
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, as you get into your Twitter, I get

590
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Speaker 1: your point. I just that's absolutely true. It's possible. Both

591
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: are correct in various ways. Now, the second gasp for me.

592
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: Um on Draft night, first was the Duke kid a

593
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Speaker 1: Brown Part two going to the Giants at six. Well,

594
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Speaker 1: they hope it's not Dave Brown Part two. The second

595
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Speaker 1: was the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's a whole new world. They

596
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Speaker 1: trade into the top ten. The Steelers. Yeah, they make

597
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: a deal with the Denver broncos um and they give

598
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Speaker 1: their twentieth pick, the first round pick as well as

599
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Speaker 1: a second rounder and a third rounder next year to

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Speaker 1: move up ten spots and take Devin Bush, the linebacker

601
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Speaker 1: out of Michigan, another big time prospect who can make

602
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Speaker 1: an immediate impact on a team that hasn't been the

603
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: same in the middle since Ryan shays Ere's injury. Um.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on this move, Chris Wesley, Well, just on

605
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Speaker 1: geography alone, we know that the Steelers are always get

606
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Speaker 1: things ahead of Cincinnati because Pittsburgh comes before Cincinnati in

607
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: the in the flow of the Ohio River. And this

608
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: has been going on for forty three years. The Dealers

609
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: just bang the Bengals all over the places where just happens.

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Speaker 1: Ever like that, you're taking that back to essentially a

611
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Speaker 1: grarian society where the Biver flow is producing. You've been

612
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: tigress and euphrates like he's going like Huck finn on us,

613
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Speaker 1: you've been You've been hitting this hard all night. West,

614
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Speaker 1: You do you have any sources that Devin Bush was

615
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Speaker 1: indeed going to be the Cincinnati pick at eleven? My

616
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: sources are common sense in history. Of course, the Bengals

617
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: are gonna take that guy. They needed a linebacker. Every

618
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Speaker 1: time they want some something, the Steelers take it from them,

619
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Speaker 1: and then their trash just flows down the Ohio River

620
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Speaker 1: to Cincinnati and the Bengals sign a guy after he

621
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Speaker 1: busts from them, you know. Supporting West's I mean, I

622
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Speaker 1: can't disagree. It seems well reasoned and he speaks with

623
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: much confidence. I've been watching it for a long time.

624
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: And Devin Bush, they finally get their Ryan Shasier replacement.

625
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: This guy seems like I can't miss. People love his character,

626
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: they love his film, they love the numbers he blew

627
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: up the combine as the Pittsburgh organization, they make the

628
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: right move. So if they go up to get somebody,

629
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Speaker 1: I just feel confident that they're getting the right guy.

630
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Speaker 1: Uh and a guy that's going to make an impact.

631
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Speaker 1: It's much more likely that happens. Given on the track

632
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Speaker 1: record of the last years than that, it's a huge

633
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Speaker 1: bus for them, especially when they're not drafting a cornerback,

634
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, especially at that position, and he seems like

635
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: one of the safer players in the draft. Anyways, to

636
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Speaker 1: support you know, West's theory here, uh my guy beggar

637
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: ls coach Zach Taylor, you know, when asked sort kind

638
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Speaker 1: of they asked him about, you know, whether they would

639
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: have taken Bush, and you know, he answered the question

640
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Speaker 1: just like Jonah Williams was there for us. That's who

641
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Speaker 1: they took the tackle from Alabama, and it was it

642
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: wasn't exactly a he didn't shoot down that theory totally,

643
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: if you wanted to read between lines. So since an

644
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: out of yes gets Jonah Williams the tackle at Alabama

645
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: when you get you know, your number one offensive lineman

646
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: on the board, that seems like a nice pick. But well,

647
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: perhaps will never truly know, but well, there are there

648
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: are some people know that they thought Jonah Williams fit

649
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: better as a center than a tackle, So I mean,

650
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: but who knows what people seem to be divided on that.

651
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who think that you can

652
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: stick at left tackle, not even right town right the

653
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: uh you know, the road to world guys, you know,

654
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: putting together their big board on their podcast had him

655
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: as a top five player in this whole whole draft.

656
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: About as safe as it as it gets. Opinions worried.

657
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if their crew put as

658
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: much offensive line tape study into it as as our

659
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: foursome did, so it remains to be seen. All right.

660
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: The Packers, they picked twelve Rashawn Gary, the defensive end

661
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: out of Michigan, a great athlete, uh, seen by some

662
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: as a boom or bust type prospect. Very much so.

663
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think one of the most surprising things

664
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Speaker 1: in this draft is that they didn't take an offensive

665
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Speaker 1: player with their two picks. Not only that, but that

666
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: they traded up in back into the first round, uh

667
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: to take a safety Gouda Cutts just his defense. Wild mean,

668
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: just like addicted to drafting defensive players, you you Dan

669
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: really wanted some weapons for Aaron Rodgers didn't get it,

670
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: But I didn't think it would have surprised you, especially

671
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: after we read that expose and ESPN about you know,

672
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: Rogers has already working with a bunch of young guys.

673
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: Uh to bring in a rookie that that would have

674
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: been even more of a challenge potentially based on the

675
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: personalities inside that building. But yeah, it is a little surprising.

676
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if they have enough weapons

677
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: around just with two picks and the fact that they

678
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: spent so much money on three starters in free agency

679
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: and now they just picked up a third eddress. It's

680
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: not that crazy. But what was your stat Wes on

681
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: the defensive backs that they've taken the last three drafts

682
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: they've taken. I mean, we haven't even gotten to the

683
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: second round yet this year, and they've taken five defensive

684
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: backs in the first two rounds in the last three drafts.

685
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean that Tim tells me that Mike Petton's voice

686
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: has been heard two straight off seasons because they his

687
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: number one thing. You want your press corners, you want

688
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: your defensive backs to be solid, and they have done

689
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: nothing but dressed that team with Mike Petton type players

690
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: a lot better. Right. It's a it's a it's a

691
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: lot of pressure. It's hard to build a round defense

692
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. The Vikings have done a pretty good

693
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: job with it, you know, so it's not imparted to

694
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: get him last year. One thing I say about their offenses,

695
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers and their coaches like Geronimo Allison

696
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: more than your average fan would believe. I think his

697
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: injury really hurt them last year and they missed him terribly.

698
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: The Dolphins at thirteen take Christian Wilkins, the defensive tacklett

699
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: a Clemson um. You guys, get added whatever you want.

700
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: I want to play one clip from the NFL Network

701
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: brought podcast Daniel Jeremiah. Of course this was as big

702
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: arrival as the number one draft analysts for the network.

703
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: But he's not above a little sneaky, humble brag in

704
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: a big spot. He's my seventh old ball player in

705
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: this draft. I did not think he would end up

706
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: falling all the way down there. That's why I ended

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00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: up putting him in my mock draft with the Miami Dolphins,

708
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: just because of connection. So that's why I put him

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00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: to Miami. But if you asked me, gave me some truth,

710
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: Sermon said, there's no way this kid's gonna be there.

711
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: He actually was. I just wonder Mark and all as

712
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: a good job. I'll set you up on this. I

713
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: wonder after he heard about the first Danniel Mark Sessler

714
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: mock draft, he wanted to He wanted to make sure

715
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Speaker 1: that he was the guy letting everyone in America know

716
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm still the mockman and I'm nail and picks. I

717
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: don't doubt that. I mean, you could tell early on

718
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: the broadcast that. And I thought he did a great

719
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: job tonight. We all do. But there were a little

720
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: bit of nerves after what we produced the other day,

721
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: just how do you match it? But then by the

722
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: time you got to pick their team, I think he

723
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: felt very confident that he would outshine Uh. Well we

724
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: did a few day as a go, it was clear

725
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: that he had done more homework and he was paying off.

726
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: The Falcons take Chris Lyndstrom, a guard from Boston College

727
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: at fourteen, addressing their offensive line in front of map

728
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: Ryan Uh and Uh then turned around and traded back

729
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: into the first round to take Irish Gary Irish Gary

730
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: Caleb McGary. This goes with the theory I forget who

731
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: threw it out the other day. No one ever likes

732
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: it when you draft interior aligneman. Like I saw a

733
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: little bit on Falcon's twitter. I think they're not excited

734
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: for two two guards, your two guards, especially under an

735
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: off season where they signed a couple of different guards.

736
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: But that offensive line has been terrible, So what are

737
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: you gonna do? But you know what, if Matt Ryan

738
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: has more time in DeVonta Freeman is healthy and running

739
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: through big holes and they're scoring thirty points a game

740
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: in October, you know, all of a sudden, they're gonna

741
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: be okay with the draft. Yeah, Matt Ryan and DeVonta

742
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: Freeman are big, big winners out of this draft because,

743
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: like Greg said, that offensive line was terrible by the

744
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 1: end of last year. Um, okay, next big quarnerback pick. Yes,

745
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins at fifteen. A lot of speculation will

746
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: they trade up? Will they get acrost me sandwiches? Because

747
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: nobody traded up into the top five. The Redskins stay

748
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: put at fifteen, Greg, and this a lot of people

749
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: are really excited about this draft for Washington. And it

750
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: started with Dwayne Haskins, the quarterback out of Ohio State,

751
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: one of the most highly touted guys in this draft,

752
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: going to Washington as the next big thing there. With

753
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: Alex Smith's future in doubt, well, there's all these reports

754
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: that this was directed by the very top of the

755
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: organization and that there was some disagreement over you know who,

756
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: they who the coaching staff would actually want to take.

757
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: And so you can separate two things. The process to

758
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: get to this pick could be problematic. Haskins might be

759
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: stepping into a very difficult situation. But this is a

760
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: great result for them because they didn't trade up, They

761
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: sat at fifteen. Jones ends up going to the Giant.

762
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: They don't have to do anything burn any later picks,

763
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: and they get a quarterback that some a lot of

764
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: people believe has a good chance to be a pro quarterback.

765
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: And in terms of the traits that I did watch

766
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: more of Haskins than anyone, um than any of the

767
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks in the draft. I really I think he

768
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: has traits that transfer which is accuracy that he sees

769
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: the field, he anticipates, I mean in his just numbers

770
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: with accuracy. We're really strong for like a West Coast

771
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: John J. Gruden type of quarterback, like the comp that

772
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: uh QB football gurule I forget on the QB Film

773
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: room on on Twitter. His comps were cousins in Andy

774
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: Dalton with with better arms two guys that Jay Gruden's coach,

775
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: so you to it actually feels like it could be

776
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: a good fit for them. You just feel like Jake

777
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: Gruden might only have like one year to get it done.

778
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying this, but they had one

779
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: of the most intriguing first rounds. I mean absolutely to

780
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: boomer Bus players. They swung for the fences, so we

781
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: won't know for a couple of years how they did,

782
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: but they had some talent. Well they gave up. They

783
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: also gave up a second round pick uh in next

784
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: year's draft to move up for their second page. Maybe

785
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: more teams should have the owners stepping in and run

786
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: the process in the first round. You know, I think

787
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: Washington like Arizona, even more so than Arizona because after

788
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: the Alex Smith injury, this team just seemed to be floating,

789
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, deep in the Atlantic ocean. Uh, there's a

790
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: little hope in the room now. And if you're a

791
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: fan of the Redskins, a team that wasn't even drawing

792
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: well in their own building last year, now, maybe oh

793
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: we can get behind the kid and we could take

794
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: while you left. I don't know, like the whole um,

795
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's true, but the whole Redskins home

796
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: attendance thing I think has has been mentioned on this

797
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: show like nine or ten times. It's like the team

798
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: largely sucked after Thanksgiving. I get it, but every every

799
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: other team in the NFC East, you know, wait, what

800
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: is the theory that my theory that they don't have.

801
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: I think the Redskins fans have endured one of the

802
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: less appealing teams outside of a season here there for

803
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: a long long time, and that chips away at people

804
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: spending their disposable income on a product doomed to fail.

805
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: I guess I'm surprised because the NFC East in general

806
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: has been such a bedrock of the NFL that now

807
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: when you're getting thumped by the other three teams in

808
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: the division all the time, but they don't. I mean

809
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: they're not. When you look at their record over the lab,

810
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: they're not like a seller dweller constantly. They've won one

811
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: playoff game in the twenty years that since the new

812
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: ownership came in. I haven't been terrible, They've just been

813
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: sort of that's pretty bad, boy. I'm just saying, nfcs

814
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: those stadiums sell out, good bad or bad teams, good

815
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: team or bad team in in this case, they have

816
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: not been drawing. Why smiling funny that we keep bringing

817
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: up the Redskins out? Are they pumping in fake crowd

818
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: noise like some other teams? Noll hasket? It's too much.

819
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: The problem is it's too much to ask for hasket.

820
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: I think Haskins would have a chance in the right situation,

821
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: but they've got problems on their offense. And Jeremiah DJ

822
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: predicted he'll be there week one starter. I think he's

823
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance again, but he's gotta beat how Coote,

824
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: McCoy and case Keenom. He's gotta have a chance. Uh

825
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: And we didn't even mention Montes sweat that, you know,

826
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: the second pick why he was such a big risk.

827
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: There's some heart concerns, but otherwise he was people thought

828
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: maybe a top ten type of talent. Um. There was

829
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: a dispatch from r G three on Twitter. You know,

830
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: he seems to have toned it down. It's talked about

831
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: immaturity and and getting more mature, and we're gonna talk

832
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: about it on the Immaturity Slash Maturity podcast kind of

833
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: later this offseason. But he has made strides, and he

834
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: had this to say, a man that has accumulated west

835
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: some wisdom. You didn't draft the young man for nothing.

836
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: You did it because you believe in the young man.

837
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: You did it because you need a quarterback. Don't give

838
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: up on him prematurely. He is your investment. Give the

839
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: kid time to prove himself. Congrats young gun. Enjoy every

840
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: second of it. Like who's he directing that tour? The Redskins?

841
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: Like you gave a I was once that that boy,

842
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: and I wasn't given the chance to play up to

843
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: my abilities because my that team didn't believe in me

844
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: and didn't stand by me. He's saying, stand by your man.

845
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. The Redskins stood by him. The fans, I

846
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: mean loved him. Tony Cornheiser called it the era of

847
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: unbridled optimism. The only thing happened what he stopped playing

848
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: well anymore well. And there's a lot of similarities because

849
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: Dan Snyder, the owner, has a connection, a family connection

850
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: to Haskins, I mean his son played with him. Haskins

851
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: is from Maryland. You know they're believed to have been

852
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: very active. You know that the ownership in in pushing

853
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: this pick and no one stuck up and stood by

854
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: r G three more than the ownership there, I mean,

855
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: the the according to the reports like that, that's what

856
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: kept him in that on that team and even relevant

857
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: for a few more years than he would have been.

858
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: And it should be stated I think maybe hindsight, because

859
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: he wanted to play, he was young and all that.

860
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: But a lot of people say the Redskins ruined his

861
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: career by putting him on the field and not sitting

862
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: him down with that knee injury that led to a

863
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: fairly catastrophic kne injury in the playoffs that year and

864
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: he was never the same player. Well, now that's a

865
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: valid argument that might not be leaving in him. I mean,

866
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: why does everything he right or say have to be

867
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: a bumper sticker? I just don't get that. Get this one, Okay,

868
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: let's move on, guys. If you have something to say

869
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: about Brian Burns going to the Panthers defensive end at FSU,

870
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: we talked about Dexter Lawrence going to the Giants and

871
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: Garrett Bradberry, the center from NZI State supposed to be

872
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: a great prospect going to the Vikings, or Jeffrey Simmons

873
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle from Mississippi State, going to your Tennessee

874
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: tytoons speak now or Bryan Burns. Some people had him higher.

875
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: He was a little bit polarizing. But the Panthers, who

876
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: I think just by collective memory, you just assume they

877
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: have this great defense. They were twenty seven and sacks

878
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: last year. Outside of Mario Addison, you don't have a

879
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: lot of pass So I like the idea of making

880
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: this the where you go with this pick. I think

881
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: they're thrilled how the draft fell, and I think they

882
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: probably thought the Falcons would have taken Brian Burns at

883
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: fourteen One Scouts says that Brian Burns runs like a

884
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: scalded dog. Hopefully people have stopped scalding dogs by now,

885
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: um fair point um. A second scout, according Money Scout,

886
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: said something then a second, we're having two conversations. What

887
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: were you talking about? I would just help peoplip stop

888
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: scolding dogs. But now, what about the news in Australia

889
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: that there's a feral cat and we have a we

890
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: have a great listenership in Australia, there's an overpopulation of

891
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: feral cats. I saw this an alert on my phone

892
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: from the New York Times and the Humble Brake and

893
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: nice subscription. It's a great paper, the Great Lady um No.

894
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: But they have such a problem with feral cats that

895
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: they are now dropping poison sausage into areas of high

896
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: concentration and that's just the first way of killing tens

897
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: of thousands of cats in Australia. What's going on? I

898
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: totally get it. We like do you if you remember

899
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: we had a feral cat coming into our yard and

900
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: give birth to five feral kittens and it sent our

901
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: household into total chaos for six months. The poison sausage.

902
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: This reminds me of the big um Tybee Island coyote

903
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: controversy of two thousand twelve. Take us through it well.

904
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: There were a couple of coyotes were basically terrorizing the

905
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: island because they were taking cats and dogs and killing them,

906
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: and people worried about small children. So the mayor, one

907
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: of my good friends, was really up against it. He

908
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: had to decide whether do you put down the coyotes

909
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: and really piss off the animal rights people, or do

910
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: you let the run wild? And then people are gonna

911
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: stop voting for you because they're worried about people are

912
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: banging on you. That's why being there, Well, there's a

913
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: tough job. Well and here's where it got really thorny.

914
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: Vigilantes took it into their own hand, and there was

915
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: a dead coyote on the beach one morning shot. You know,

916
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: you're basically giving the plot of Jaws, only your substituting

917
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: coyotes first, almost to it. I mean that's yeah. I mean,

918
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: if Australia wants to let lose some coyotes, it's over.

919
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's a problem. That's a pretty big I

920
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't say, you know, problem plaguing in the Los Angeles area.

921
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: But you can't leave. You can't leave your couts at

922
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: the coyotes are going to get them. If you live

923
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: in the mountains, forget it. Everyone. You got about a

924
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: year until your cat's gonna get murdered. Yeah, I mean

925
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: in circling murder. I know lots of lots of people.

926
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: You know, it's like they're like, oh, yeah, our cat,

927
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: they didn't come back last night. When it comes to cats,

928
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: we don't trust them, I believe as a group at

929
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: least I certainly don't. I think Dan, I know, shift

930
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: do you agree with me? And I if I have

931
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: a guy friend that owns a cat, not that guy

932
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: friendship is not gonna last, so I don't trust him.

933
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: I think that's a ridiculous statement. I don't like, but

934
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: it's what I believe. You have a different opinion, so

935
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: it's not ridiculous. You just have a different tho. It

936
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: is like racist, you know, have their own beliefs. I

937
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: can still think, are you calling Mark a catist? I mean,

938
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: I think I think all all of God's creatures are beautiful,

939
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: except you certainly do not think that. All right, tack

940
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: like that Garrett Bradberry pick by the way, for the

941
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Vikings operations save Cousins. Yeah they're better. They got a

942
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: big investment in that man, all right. The Broncos trade

943
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: with the Steelers um and the Broncos used that pick

944
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: to select Noah Fant the other big tight end um

945
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: out of Iowa that you want to talk about one

946
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: every twenty two thousand years, Iowa putting out two first

947
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: round tight ends in one year. That's and that's the

948
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: first time it's ever happened that same school that they

949
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: had two tight ends taken before a single wide receiver

950
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: was taken in the entire country. Like, it's ridiculous. I

951
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: like this move. So many people had the Broncos mocked

952
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: for a inside linebacker, which made no sense to me

953
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: after they picked up Josie Jewel last year. It was

954
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: not a position of need, but they didn't have anybody

955
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: for for Joe Flacco to throw the ball too. I

956
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: really like this. I love it, and they got a

957
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: second round pick out of it. I mean, they got

958
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: the Steelers second round pick, which is pretty valuable for

959
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: a Broncos team with a lot of needs. I don't

960
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: care if you know he's a wide receiver at tight end,

961
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: He's ultimately just another pack I can't have Flacco running

962
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: an offense without a viable tight end. I agree. The

963
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: Seahawks are picking at twenty one, they trade out of

964
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: the spot. The Packers jump in, uh, and they give

965
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: up their thirtieth pick along with two fourth rounders. UH.

966
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: So with that pick, the Packers take Darnell Savage, the

967
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: safety out of Maryland. We talked about that. The Packers

968
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: really going ham at the defensive side. Uh. In terms

969
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: of player acquisition. At twenty two, another trade, the Eagles

970
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: trade into the Ravens spot to take Andre Dillard, a

971
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: tackle out of Washington State, which really really seemed to uh.

972
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: First of all, Daniel Jeremiah called it the best draft

973
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: pick of the night, the Eagles making the move up

974
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: and getting Dillard, a very talented young tackle, and it

975
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: really seemed to chap the Houston Texans who thought they

976
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: were gonna be able to take Dillard potentially, instead they

977
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: perhaps settle we don't know, but perhaps settle on Titus Howard,

978
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: a tackle out of Alabama State. So uh, it seems

979
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: like it's possible that Texans got banged by the Eagles

980
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: who jumped ahead of him a big fan shows the

981
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: different organizational priorities, Like the Eagles aren't even gonna start

982
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: Dillard this year and they traded up for him. I mean,

983
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: he's Jason Peters is uh presumptive replacement, but I doubt

984
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna take Jason Peters out of the lineup. And

985
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: so you have Lane Johnson and he's only gonna be

986
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 1: a third tackle, and yet they traded up to get him. Meanwhile,

987
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, Dillard would be the most talented guy on

988
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: the entire Texans offensive line. I mean, Dillard was of

989
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: any college tackle, the highest rated in past protection. They

990
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: do talk about all these guys that like playing a

991
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: two point stands throughout college and don't have any real

992
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: three point stance. But I but I don't know. I mean,

993
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna So then it's an even plain when you're

994
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: drafting most of these dudes. Titus Howard is interesting, but

995
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: it's been pointed out if you can't play left tackle

996
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: at Alabama State, you're probably not gonna play left tackle

997
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: in the Pro. That pick reminded me so much of

998
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: the Bengals pick up Billy Price a year ago, where

999
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: everyone thought they were gonna take Frank rag Now the center,

1000
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: and then they got taken one pick and ahead of him,

1001
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: and so it was just like the fantasy draft where

1002
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: you just like scrambling, just like take the next guy

1003
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: at that position, and it was a pretty big drop

1004
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: off between those two picks. The same thing happens to

1005
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: the Bengals again. So alright, so Josh Jacobs comes off

1006
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: the board of the Ravens in that trade with the Eagles,

1007
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: they go and make a pick to add to their offense,

1008
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: and it's the first wide receiver off the board. Marque's

1009
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, the wide receiver at Oklahoma West. You didn't

1010
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: like this pick. No. It was a big debate in

1011
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: the newsroom, and I you know, I saw this last year.

1012
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: I saw this movie. John Brown, a four three guy

1013
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: who's a d threat and a little bit undersized, went underutilized,

1014
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: basically not utilized whatsoever once Lamar Jackson took over. I

1015
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: don't think Lamar Jackson is an outside the numbers, down

1016
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: the field quarterback. His throwing style is a pop gun arm.

1017
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: I just don't think he has that harm. I would

1018
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: just say, I remember, we've had these conversations about young

1019
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to like give them a little time, and I

1020
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: think I think Jackson coming out of college, man, he

1021
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: threw a lot of pretty deep balls in college and

1022
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: you definitely didn't see that much last year. But what

1023
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: Brown gives them that John Brown, what Marky's Brown gives

1024
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: them that John Brown definitely didn't, is those manufactured plays.

1025
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean he led, He led the conference in yards

1026
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: after the catch, and a lot of those are on

1027
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: those short passes. But he's a water book. Those guys

1028
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: don't break tackles and you are not. He broke more

1029
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: tackles than any player. Yes, sure, Avon Austin did too.

1030
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing here one or sixty

1031
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: six pounds, enter sixty six pounds. I think you're if

1032
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: you're the Ravens, you need play makers and you need

1033
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: guys that can stretch the field. And even if he

1034
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: catches passes, if it's twenty yards for catching and he's

1035
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: making some plays down field, that's a win. I know,

1036
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: like it's the brown As a Browns fan like I

1037
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: didn't like to pick because you gotta find someone to

1038
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: deal with him. They made out the perfect quarterback for this.

1039
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: He's also a guy that went from Baker Mayfield to

1040
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I've just heard a lot of this. Lebar

1041
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: Jackson can't throw stuff this off scenes from a lot

1042
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: of corner I'm not saying, And I think it's strength

1043
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: of the field. He started seven games and for what

1044
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: he was asked to do, he was. He's a bust better.

1045
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: You can tell by the way he plays quarterback. He

1046
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: throws between the numbers and sort of not downfield. So

1047
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: I agree that they needed the receiver and they need

1048
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: to skill position talent. I just I would have liked

1049
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: to have seen him go to a different team. Ravens

1050
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: also don't have a great track record picking wide receivers

1051
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: early in the draft, um Rahad Perriman being a notable

1052
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: example in recent years, but perhaps brown will make a

1053
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: difference for them. We talked about Sweat going at twenty

1054
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: six to the Redskins, the Raiders taking Abram the Safety

1055
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: out of Mississippippy State. The Chargers who had a you know,

1056
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: I would say, a sizey draft party in Santa Monica today.

1057
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: It was oppressive. They had, uh the NFL network showed

1058
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: a a um, you know, a wide shot. It seemed

1059
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: like there were several hundred people, maybe a thousand people

1060
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: who knows at the pier. So I mean, I'd argue

1061
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: there are fans of this teaming. I agree with you.

1062
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: I'd argue the Santa Monica Pier wouldn't have been barren

1063
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: um of humans. The party, they promoted it pretty well.

1064
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: It's not too far from where I live. And throughout

1065
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: the week you saw the sign people they're giving away

1066
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: free stuff. There's giveaways, there's food and what they when

1067
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: they had the little the Chargers logo on the Santa

1068
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: Monica Ferris wheel. I mean, you know, up in the

1069
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: sky you can see that for miles around tonight look beautiful.

1070
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: They packed the year, But can they pack the stadium? Mark?

1071
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: We'll find out in a couple of years. Mark was

1072
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: more annoyed by that. I mean it's like, I get it.

1073
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: They're from l A, so we must we don't have.

1074
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. If you can see a ferris wheel

1075
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: with your team's logo from five miles away, up and

1076
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: down the coast, that's a win. If Rogers listening to

1077
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: the show, that that is Mark who says that football

1078
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: won't be around in a hundred years and is not

1079
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: a fan of Los Angeles football. That is Mark Sessler.

1080
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: Well some of that is true. What does that look for?

1081
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: Tam post Ricky is just looking like you're just like

1082
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: if you get to see your team on a ferris wheel,

1083
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: you're just like full of just I just don't trust something.

1084
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: My team Well I did have cats, or my parents didn't. Yeah,

1085
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: there's a lot of about you and you're like, oh, yeah,

1086
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: you see your team, and then next you're gonna be

1087
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: like you see the guy in Hawaii, I mean the Chargers.

1088
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: You get to see your favorite fifth team of the NFL.

1089
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if you're saying that, if you're

1090
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: saying the Chargers get too much support. I think you'd

1091
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: be the first person to ever say that you let's

1092
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: help this little team out. Please, they need some help.

1093
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: It would be nice for them. In San Diego. Where

1094
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: do the charges rank? I mean, after your favorite team,

1095
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and your second favorite team, that Patriots. Where

1096
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: do the charges well, the Rams No, I would say

1097
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: the Patriots are obviously first. The l A teams and

1098
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles are in that mix after where they're all together.

1099
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: All right. So the Seattle Seahawks UM pick twenty nine

1100
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: because they traded uh Frank, the Rods are actually ahead

1101
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: of them right now. Frank Clark, the Frank Clark trade

1102
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: that's sent the defensive end to Kansas City. They take L. J.

1103
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: Collier the defensive end at a TCU, who's uh a

1104
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: guy with upside uh and Michael Bennett comps which would

1105
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: fit in with Seattle. But the other uh, you know,

1106
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: big news concerning uh this pick and the team connected

1107
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: to with the chiefs Tyreek Hill. UM. Some real disturbing

1108
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: audio came out today was posted by a local UH

1109
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: news affiliate in Kansas City. I believe was it at

1110
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: Kansas City? Uh? And uh you know it was Hill

1111
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: and his girlfriend. Uh, the two people that are connected

1112
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: to the childhood abuse investigation and that involved the young

1113
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: son that suffered the broken arm. Um. It was reported

1114
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: this week or yesterday that there wouldn't be any criminal

1115
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: charges filed against either of the adults in this situation.

1116
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: This audio recording of surfaces, of course, goes viral, gets

1117
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: blasted out, and then the general manager of the Kansas

1118
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, Bret Veach uh announces after the draft that

1119
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: Tyreck Hill will not be involved with the Chiefs in

1120
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: any capacity for quote the foreseeable future. Uh. You could

1121
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: try to read between the lines that this this could

1122
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: very well be the final straw that uh, you know,

1123
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: um snaps the camel's back and that's the end of

1124
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill in Kansas City. It certainly seems to be

1125
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: trending that way. Now. Hard to know. I mean, the

1126
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: the audio, you know, it's to the entire situation is tragic.

1127
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 1: I mean, going back to his involvement with the same

1128
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: woman and and child, you know, in in college and

1129
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: child wasn't even born then. But just looking at the

1130
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: statement that Veach made, it does feel like it crossed

1131
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: a certain threshold you would think for the team all right,

1132
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: I think, but we'll see. There's probably more two for

1133
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: them to look into and stuff. But absolutely just gives

1134
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: you total pause when you look at the transcript of

1135
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: that audio. I just I don't know. I like, there's

1136
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: some things that are just if there's any scenario where

1137
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: this is what's happened and they keep him, I don't

1138
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: I can't figure out how to back that on any level.

1139
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: And Veach also said in the statement that he found

1140
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: out about the audio recording in quote real time, so

1141
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: he found out, the team found out as the same

1142
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: time as the rest of It's just remarkable that two

1143
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: months ago there you know, report that Tyreeko was going

1144
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: to become the highest paid receiver in the league. Um alright,

1145
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: so um, And we'll keep an eye on that situation. Obviously.

1146
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: Next time we'll bring a podcast to you is after

1147
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: the draft, so we'll see if there's any movement, uh

1148
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: in the Tyreek Hill situation. The Giants trade back into

1149
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: the first round. We talked about that DeAndre Baker, the

1150
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: Falcons trade with the Rams swap of the Rams, so

1151
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: the Rams trade out of the first round entirely, and

1152
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: the Falcon state Caleb McGarry tackle out of Washington and

1153
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: um finally the Patriots. Um can I mention one thing

1154
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: about one quote on Caleb Gary and I'm sure he's

1155
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: a very he's massive, he's six ft seven. Someone called

1156
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: him big stiff robot guy. I'm sure there are other uh,

1157
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: big stiff robot guy. I'm sure the other qualities that

1158
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: he brings to the table the Falcons must think. So

1159
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: it's quite a name. The Patriots take a wide receiver

1160
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: nikkil Harry out of a s U. Uh and Greg,

1161
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: that is a good pick. You like that pick? I did.

1162
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: I liked his interview you know on NFL Network, like

1163
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: the cut of his jib, his attitude. But I like that.

1164
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: It was the Patriots going against type, which is they

1165
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: have not drafted receivers in the first round. They have

1166
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: not drafted many outside receivers, very high physical receivers. His profile,

1167
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: uh as a guy who can kind of be a

1168
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: big slot guy, win at the catchpoint, physical, run after catch,

1169
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: like man. They need that. So it's it's just nice

1170
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: when you when the Patriots, you know, pick need and

1171
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: and a lot of people, you know, some people Adam

1172
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: as the top receiver in the league. Well, I mean

1173
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: in the draft, There aren't many holes in Bill Belichick's resume,

1174
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: but drafting early roundwide receivers is one of them. So

1175
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: maybe this is one of his few challenges. Left and

1176
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: put the page street It's logo on a ferris wheel

1177
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: while you're at it, please all right? And the biggest

1178
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: news of the night, Ricky Hollywood, of course, that Taylor

1179
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: Swift dropped her new video, which she announced She's in Nashville.

1180
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: I think she has a home down there. She announced

1181
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: it at the Draft that it was dropping, and your

1182
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: thoughts on the news really at the Draft she was there.

1183
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: She was on some some show and said it was

1184
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: coming out, and uh, Eric and I watched it in

1185
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: real time together. Yeah, like nine oh two. I was

1186
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: already watching it live. It's great. It reminds me of

1187
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: her older stuff, not Reputation album. The video feels like her. Um,

1188
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten the full effect yet. I can't wait

1189
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: till tonight at three am when I'm driving home. I

1190
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: gotta really bump it in the car to feel it

1191
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: so you don't drive off the road. Well, I'm not

1192
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: worried about that. It's like I want the experience. Got it?

1193
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: Got it? Really like immersing myself. So it was like

1194
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, yeah, I remember how I said,

1195
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: like the old Taylor is dead. Actually that didn't work

1196
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: out too well. It didn't really test market. People didn't

1197
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: like that. So now the old Taylor is totally back.

1198
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, only a cat guy would say something like that. Yeah, exactly.

1199
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: Now you're right though, totally. But what did you think?

1200
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: I loved it. I think I think she's much more

1201
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: comfortable in the lane that this single. And you know,

1202
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: she seems super tall in all like this the bad block. Yeah,

1203
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: Taylor Smith. Taylor Smith one of my favorites. All right,

1204
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: there you go. That's the round one recap um. As

1205
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: we said, quick word about the Colt Chris Ballard, continue

1206
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: to knock it out of the part your favorite type

1207
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: of frog. Three second round picks this guy's got this

1208
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: year and two next year. This guy is building a

1209
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: perennial playoff power right draft for that too. I just

1210
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: wanted to get a little cold on your list. So

1211
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't pick. No, they trade it out.

1212
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you know, let's see what they do

1213
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: with the picks before we start throwing the bouquets at

1214
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: the man's feet. I know he's had a great year

1215
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: or so. I mean, it's just adding to the collection

1216
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: of bouquets that are already down there. We'll be back

1217
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: Saturday when we recap um the entire draft. We'll we'll

1218
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: go through all the second through seventh round. We won't

1219
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: go through every pick, but you know, things that jump

1220
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: out to us, uh. For the balance of the draft,

1221
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: maybe share some winners and losers. Check in on our

1222
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: sandwich props, see how they're going, uh for the draft.

1223
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: Not well for me, some bad news in the back

1224
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: end of the draft, but we'll get to all that.

1225
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 1: I think we'll all catch up to you in mediocrity.

1226
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: The reality is none of us have hit a single proposition.

1227
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you have company problematic situation so far.

1228
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 1: But thank you everybody, uh for listening, and good luck

1229
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: to your teams the rest of the way. And that's it.

1230
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: That's all I gotta really say. Good job, guys. Stan

1231
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: Heads a signing off for Quiet Storm, the mail Man,

1232
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: the old Boss on Ricky Hollywood behind the Glass until

1233
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: Saturday night. Do you think you've been brain damage? Oh yeah, definitely,

1234
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. Okay, don't I left something on the

1235
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: operating table. There's no doubt