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Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shayshay. This episode
Speaker 3: is brought to you by Call of Duty Black Ops six.
Speaker 3: The woman that's stopping by for conversation or the drink today,
Speaker 3: she's the highest ranking woman in US history. She's made
Speaker 3: a career of being first. She's the first woman to
Speaker 3: serve as Attorney General African American Asian American descent. She's
Speaker 3: also district She's been District Attorney of San Francisco. She
Speaker 3: was the nation's first Indian American Senator. She's the first woman,
Speaker 3: first Black Asian American to be elected Vice president. She's
Speaker 3: set the record for the most tie breaking votes cast
Speaker 3: by vice president. She's the first black woman Asian American
Speaker 3: in US history to win the presidential nomination of a
Speaker 3: major party. She's the first HBCU grad, making US proud.
Speaker 3: She is a Howard University of lum She's a member
Speaker 3: of the prestigious Appa Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority. Here she
Speaker 3: is in person. Madam BP Kamla Harrison. How you doing?
Speaker 3: Extreme honor, privilege and a pleasure to have you on
Speaker 3: club Shaysha CJ, who is the producer here. When we
Speaker 3: started this journey, Madam VP four years ago. Celebrities, athletes,
Speaker 3: entertainers and influencers, vps and presidential hopefuls work on the
Speaker 3: Bingo card. You here, so I want to thank you
Speaker 3: very much. When we have guests come on Madam VP.
Speaker 3: We like the toast and what I read on this card.
Speaker 3: You don't deserve this. You've earned this, being the first
Speaker 3: in so many areas, and you make us proud. I
Speaker 3: just want you to know you make us proud for
Speaker 3: what you've been able to accomplish. And we're twelve days
Speaker 3: away and we hope you have an even greater accomplishment.
Speaker 3: So here's to continue success and everything you've done and
Speaker 3: everything that you will do.
Speaker 4: Oh, bless you, and thank you, and to you, Shannon,
Speaker 4: to you for all the success and the voice you
Speaker 4: give to so many issues.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that.
Speaker 4: Thank you and cheers to you. Cheers, and I'm not
Speaker 4: going to actually drink this because I might fall asleep
Speaker 4: and I.
Speaker 1: Need to do this. I don't want you to rock
Speaker 1: Obama this afternoon.
Speaker 3: So here we are.
Speaker 1: Cheers everybody.
Speaker 3: So before we get to the things that you want
Speaker 3: to do once you become president of the United States,
Speaker 3: I want to go back when you found out what
Speaker 3: President Biden called you and said that he was no
Speaker 3: longer going to seek re election and you got that call.
Speaker 3: Do you remember where you were and what you thought
Speaker 3: when you heard him say these words?
Speaker 1: Do you I do so I was home.
Speaker 4: It was a Sunday afternoon, and my niece, her husband,
Speaker 4: and their two young daughters were visiting and staying with us,
Speaker 4: and I promised the kids I have pancakes and bacon
Speaker 4: and everything.
Speaker 1: And then after that.
Speaker 4: I had a puzzle for the kids, and we were
Speaker 4: sitting down to do the puzzle and the phone rang
Speaker 4: and it was President Biden. And so that's when he
Speaker 4: told me. And it was obviously life changing in so
Speaker 4: many ways. But you know, I have to tell you, Shannon,
Speaker 4: at that moment, I knew what it would mean, but
Speaker 4: not in the detail of it, but I certainly understood
Speaker 4: the seriousness and the gravity of the moment. And actually
Speaker 4: one of the first people I called was my pastor. Wow.
Speaker 1: I knew I needed a moment to just be still.
Speaker 4: And for my spirit and my mind to have clarity
Speaker 4: about the seriousness of the moment and my role.
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget that call, or that moment or
Speaker 1: that day.
Speaker 3: Your life instantaneously changed in that moment, Yes, because now
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you weren't going to be running,
Speaker 3: you weren't going to be the VP anymore. You're going
Speaker 3: to be front and center, and you knew what the undertaking.
Speaker 3: Haven't been four years at the vice president, what that
Speaker 3: moment would mean.
Speaker 4: I had a sense of it, you know, like so
Speaker 4: many of us, you know when you know you this
Speaker 4: is your life, right, So there are those moments where
Speaker 4: your instinct kicks in sometimes before your conscious mind and
Speaker 4: thoughts do. And my instinct kicked in immediately that I
Speaker 4: need to focus and I need to do certain things immediately,
Speaker 4: which included making I think we estimated I made over
Speaker 4: one hundred calls that day. My team, and I'm an
Speaker 4: incredible team, all came in and you nobody expected, right,
Speaker 4: it was a Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 1: In fact, we actually joked who had taken a shower
Speaker 1: that day?
Speaker 4: Because you know, people came into their workout clothes, you know,
Speaker 4: different people and you know, bandana around the head.
Speaker 1: Just you know, and came in and we then for
Speaker 1: hours and hours, well into the night.
Speaker 3: Did you tell them, did you tell them why you
Speaker 3: had summoned them to come to your place? Did you
Speaker 3: give them that news or you were were you waiting
Speaker 3: for them to get there to share that news with them?
Speaker 4: Well, so the news started to speaking, imagine pretty much immediately.
Speaker 4: But you know, of the many blessings that I have
Speaker 4: and have had, one of them is an incredible team
Speaker 4: of people around me. You know what that's like, where
Speaker 4: they're just there and they will rise to a moment
Speaker 4: and no matter how high that moment is or meaning
Speaker 4: how serious it is and what I love. And it's
Speaker 4: certainly my own work ethic that there is no job
Speaker 4: too small or too big if there's something that needs
Speaker 4: to get done.
Speaker 3: So although you have a huge role. Now, what's a
Speaker 3: typical day like for you? Now, once you've been thrust
Speaker 3: into this What time you normally get into bed, what
Speaker 3: time you're getting up, and what's some of the activities that.
Speaker 4: You do in a given day I'm having I'd probably
Speaker 4: estimate fourteen hour fifteen hour days. When I wake up,
Speaker 4: no matter how little sleep or how much sleep I've had,
Speaker 4: I work out every morning. Okay, okay, you know, you
Speaker 4: know it's like my body and spirit right, and and
Speaker 4: then you know that's the only time of my day
Speaker 4: I really own. And then it is these days, it's
Speaker 4: not unusual for me to be in three or even
Speaker 4: four cities in one day rallies with thousands of people,
Speaker 4: ten thousand people showing up, making calls to folks. Just now,
Speaker 4: I landed in Atlanta, the mayor of Atlanta who greets
Speaker 4: me every single time. So I'll talk with elected leaders
Speaker 4: who are supportive about So, for example, here in Atlanta,
Speaker 4: what do we need to do to make sure that
Speaker 4: we're giving folks the resources to knock on doors and
Speaker 4: remind folks of the power of their voice and twelve
Speaker 4: days in it really is a lot about trying to
Speaker 4: focus on getting folks to know their power, to not
Speaker 4: let anybody suppress or silence their voice, and to vote right.
Speaker 3: So break what is what is metal vpe for breakfast?
Speaker 3: Or you have time? Or is it on to go?
Speaker 4: No? I I you know, I when I was younger,
Speaker 4: I didn't think I needed breakfast. I wasn't a breakfast eater. Okay,
Speaker 4: Now I have breakfast every morning. It's usually a spinisch holmlet,
Speaker 4: very exciting, right, but it's protein with a little vegetable
Speaker 4: and you know, I like chicken, apple, sausage and some
Speaker 4: toast and then I'm gone.
Speaker 3: Madam VP, you're a couple of years older than myself,
Speaker 3: so we kind of grew up in the eighties. But
Speaker 3: I'm I'm only thirty five now.
Speaker 1: Yes, but you want, but we grew up. But just
Speaker 1: keep moving because you I'm gonna give you a shovel.
Speaker 3: I see, I see it. We could have just moved
Speaker 3: on a band that real quick, but you drew attention
Speaker 3: to it. But we grew up in the seventies with music. Yeah,
Speaker 3: winning fire Ohio players, Oh yes.
Speaker 1: Fire you I mean oh you were like fire.
Speaker 3: Come on, okay, Yes, what do you listen to now?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: You know? I wish I were listening to more music,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because I love.
Speaker 3: It just downtown when you have downtime.
Speaker 4: You don't have any downtown. Really, I know, my little
Speaker 4: violin I'm playing right now with you, I really don't.
Speaker 4: But when I love, I love jazz, you know, if
Speaker 4: it's from Thelonious Monk to Miles Davis, I love Aretha.
Speaker 4: I was just with Stevie Stevie. Can I tell you
Speaker 4: bucket list Stevie Wonder on my birthday sing me Happy birthday,
Speaker 4: Happy birthday to me.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine?
Speaker 3: I was?
Speaker 1: I was, literally it was. It was surreal.
Speaker 4: Can you a bucket list moment? When Stevie Wonder himself
Speaker 4: it sings you happy birthday?
Speaker 3: As an eighteen year old. Yeah, could you imagine ever
Speaker 3: your life would have been like this this many years.
Speaker 4: Let me tell my mother loved She had every Stevie
Speaker 4: and every Aretha Franklin record, every album, like literally every
Speaker 4: one of them. So for I mean, you know, songs
Speaker 4: in the keid, like like all those all those Stevie
Speaker 4: songs that were about everything from the movement to optimism.
Speaker 1: I would have never at eighteen thought that he'd be
Speaker 1: singing me happy birthdays.
Speaker 3: Ever, never, That's the least I mean. But obviously everybody
Speaker 3: knows who Steve is. He was a trial prodigy thirteen
Speaker 3: years old, and he was doing great things. But to see,
Speaker 3: madal BP, what you've been able to do, You've had
Speaker 3: so many First, the first Attorney general woman Attorney general
Speaker 3: African American Asian American descent use the DA of San Francisco.
Speaker 3: You're the first Indian American US Senator.
Speaker 4: And second black woman ever in the history of the
Speaker 4: United States Senate elected second in the history of the
Speaker 4: United States Senate.
Speaker 3: Have you had an opportunity to sit back and reflect like, wow,
Speaker 3: but work is not yet done.
Speaker 1: That's more where I am, the work is not done.
Speaker 1: The work is not yet done.
Speaker 4: There's so much to do, I mean to your point,
Speaker 4: being in the Senate, so there is a way of
Speaker 4: responsibility that I know we all feel right when we
Speaker 4: have been blessed with an experience that allows us to
Speaker 4: be a role model and to hopefully inspire people and
Speaker 4: to remind them of what's important or point out the
Speaker 4: things that need to be addressed. So, for example, as
Speaker 4: only the second black woman elected to the United States Senate,
Speaker 4: I took on a real role of leadership around black
Speaker 4: maternal mortality, which affects Black women and affects their spouses,
Speaker 4: their husbands, their families, their children. And I feel a
Speaker 4: sense of responsibility and a very strong duty to make
Speaker 4: sure that I use my voice and in a way
Speaker 4: that is about lifting up people who have not always
Speaker 4: been in the room America.
Speaker 2: Mister states in shape stepped out for some black up six,
Speaker 2: but I'm here as his replace her. Let's start with Texas,
Speaker 2: shall we. Well, I think this is I mean.
Speaker 3: Things I'm moving here.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can go on there, yep. Yeah, that's all
Speaker 2: for today, folks checking tomorrow.
Speaker 3: If you could speak to your eighteen year old self,
Speaker 3: what would you tell her?
Speaker 1: If I could speak to my eighteen year old self,
Speaker 1: I would probably tell her.
Speaker 4: Continue to keep your friends. You know, my best friend
Speaker 4: from kindergarten is still one of my best friends.
Speaker 1: What yes, Referee's yes.
Speaker 4: In fact, she's been out knocking on doors in North
Speaker 4: Carolina just this last week. For me, I would say,
Speaker 4: you know, hold on to those, to hold on to that,
Speaker 4: which is that your friends are so important, your family
Speaker 4: is so important. I would probably encourage myself at eighteen
Speaker 4: to remember that you have a lot of people who
Speaker 4: are supporting you, even if they don't know you.
Speaker 1: You know, That's what I mentor a lot of people, Shannon.
Speaker 4: So this is what I'm really reflecting on, which is
Speaker 4: what I tell the young people I mentor, including to
Speaker 4: know that even when you are in that room and
Speaker 4: you're the only one who looks like you or who
Speaker 4: has had your life experience, to know you are not
Speaker 4: alone in that room, and that you must therefore walk
Speaker 4: in that room chin up, shoulders back, knowing we're all
Speaker 4: they're applauding you. When I mentor young women and men,
Speaker 4: I remind them that you are often going to be told, well,
Speaker 4: it's not your time, not your turn, too young, nobody
Speaker 4: like you has done this before and and I tell them,
Speaker 4: you know, don't you ever listen to that?
Speaker 1: I like to say, I eat no for breakfast. I
Speaker 1: don't hear know. You asked me what I eat for breakfast?
Speaker 1: I eat no for breakfast. I don't hear it.
Speaker 4: And that's part of what are my life lessons that
Speaker 4: I try to share with young people, to remind them
Speaker 4: that you cannot ever be burdened by other people's limited
Speaker 4: ability to understand who you are like, don't let their
Speaker 4: limited ability burden you about your own ability.
Speaker 3: You know, you were raised by a single mom. What
Speaker 3: did that experience tell you about your mom? And what
Speaker 3: did it tell you about you?
Speaker 1: Well, it told me that.
Speaker 4: One of the things that is precious is to build
Speaker 4: community and family. Like my mother, she she understood that
Speaker 4: there is a community that she wanted her children to
Speaker 4: be raised in, and she was very intentional and.
Speaker 1: Purposeful about that.
Speaker 4: And so I always say to people, even when I
Speaker 4: took the stage as the nominee for the Democratic nomination,
Speaker 4: that you know, there is the family that you have
Speaker 4: by birth, and there is also the family you have
Speaker 4: by love, and they're equally family, right, And I learned
Speaker 4: that from my mother.
Speaker 1: So my mother.
Speaker 4: I had all these aunties and uncles, my uncle Sherman,
Speaker 4: who was one of the first black men to graduate
Speaker 4: from Berkeley School of Law, who when we were young girls,
Speaker 4: sat us down and taught us how to play chess
Speaker 4: because Uncle Sherman said, you need to understand how the
Speaker 4: chess board.
Speaker 1: Works, because that's the way the world works.
Speaker 4: They're going to be different players with different moves, and
Speaker 4: you need to see the whole board. My mother raised
Speaker 4: us around like my Auntie Chris, who went to Howard
Speaker 4: in the fifties and pledged Alpha Kappa Alpha, and she
Speaker 4: was one of my incredible role models growing up, and
Speaker 4: that was one of the big reasons I wanted to
Speaker 4: go to Howard University and pledge Alphakapa Alpha. Those are
Speaker 4: some of the lessons that I've learned from my mother,
Speaker 4: and I try to also share with people. Right, which
Speaker 4: is the beauty of community and it's the way I
Speaker 4: am right, which is you know, the children in my life,
Speaker 4: whether they be my own or you know, my god
Speaker 4: children or whomever, right that it's a collective responsibility that
Speaker 4: we have.
Speaker 3: You did you know you were different? I mean, were
Speaker 3: there a lot of people in the community that looked
Speaker 3: like you or like your mom, or did your mom
Speaker 3: tell you you were different?
Speaker 4: Well, my mother taught us to and everyone in my
Speaker 4: growing up, you know, they would tell all of us
Speaker 4: kids that we were special.
Speaker 1: I don't think we were particularly right, but they told
Speaker 1: us we were, and we believed them. We believe them.
Speaker 4: I think that's such an important part of what we
Speaker 4: can all do for the children and the children in
Speaker 4: our lives. And you know, but my mother raised two
Speaker 4: black girls to be proud black women. Wanted you back
Speaker 4: to music. One of the soundtracks from my childhood was
Speaker 4: you know you are young, gifted in black, you know,
Speaker 4: And that's what it was.
Speaker 3: I'll get the.
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Speaker 3: You lost your mom to cancer. Yeah, you're very close
Speaker 3: to your mom because you use a single parent and
Speaker 3: that was pretty much what you had, although you had
Speaker 3: a community to help raise you. How did you deal?
Speaker 3: How did you cope with that loss?
Speaker 1: Grief is difficult, it's difficult.
Speaker 4: You know there are two sides to the coin about
Speaker 4: when you have relationships in your life that touch you deeply,
Speaker 4: and then to lose that person, it leaves a big void. Right,
Speaker 4: That's the two sides, and I think that part of
Speaker 4: what I was just talking about this, But the big
Speaker 4: part about grief is, especially if you lose somebody to
Speaker 4: a sickness, to an illness, I think it's really important
Speaker 4: that you try to remember them as they lived and
Speaker 4: not as they died, because I think that's how they'd
Speaker 4: want us to remember them. But also to remember their suffering,
Speaker 4: which hopefully was a fraction of their time on this earth.
Speaker 4: Is to compound the grief in a way that I
Speaker 4: think it adds to the pain. And what they want
Speaker 4: is that their active memory, that our active memory of
Speaker 4: them is about when they were vibrant and alive.
Speaker 3: So let's get into things that will change. What will
Speaker 3: happen if you were to become president, say in the
Speaker 3: next twelve to thirteen days. Pole suggests that voters trust
Speaker 3: President Trump former President Trump modeled the economy. What can
Speaker 3: you tell the voters, our viewing audience, our listening audience
Speaker 3: that if you were to become president, while Madam VP
Speaker 3: Karmala Harris will be much better on the economy than
Speaker 3: what President Trump was.
Speaker 1: Well, so I'm really glad you brought that up. Channel.
Speaker 4: So first of all, let's clear up certain myths. Okay,
Speaker 4: you know those checks that went.
Speaker 3: Out, Yes, those stimmys, right right, stimulus?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, well, y y, you.
Speaker 3: Gotta be stimulus, but they call them stimmy. It's okay.
Speaker 4: The reason those came about is because there was a
Speaker 4: demmocratic majority in the House of Representatives in Congress, people
Speaker 4: like Maxine Waters, people like Hakeem Jeffries right, yes, who
Speaker 4: did the work of pushing to say people need help
Speaker 4: right now, and we need to send out checks. There
Speaker 4: was a whole lot of opposition to it, including from
Speaker 4: Donald Trump's White House.
Speaker 3: Yes, even him, I think he was.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's why those checks. Remember Congress holds the purse. Yes,
Speaker 4: so really, Congress wrote those checks. But then Donald Trump,
Speaker 4: unlike any president before after, decided he put his name
Speaker 4: on those checks. So people thought Donald Trump, he gave
Speaker 4: me that check. And so let's clear that up first
Speaker 4: and foremost. But let's also deal with where he was
Speaker 4: in terms of his policies on the economy. He gave
Speaker 4: the biggest tax cuts for billionaires and the biggest corporations,
Speaker 4: which caused an incredible deficit. He tried to get rid
Speaker 4: of the Affordable Care Act, which we also call Obamacare,
Speaker 4: which benefited so many people, including and in particular Black
Speaker 4: people in America who otherwise were denied by the insurance
Speaker 4: companies health coverage because of pre existing conditions.
Speaker 3: That's most important. Let the people know, right, with Affordable
Speaker 3: Care Act, if you have a pre existing condition, insurance
Speaker 3: companies can no longer deny you coverage.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
Speaker 4: And if you think about what that means in the
Speaker 4: context of also knowing the big health disparities we have
Speaker 4: in the black community and how more likely therefore black
Speaker 4: folks might be to have pre existing.
Speaker 3: Conditions loved pressure, diabetes, all of that, and cancers.
Speaker 4: All of that, Yes, asthma for our children, Yes, sickle sales, rance,
Speaker 4: it's all of that. So by getting rid of the
Speaker 4: pre existing condition ban, what that did. But he wanted
Speaker 4: to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. What we
Speaker 4: have done in part of my policies going forward include
Speaker 4: what we need to do to not only retain the
Speaker 4: cap that we got on insult then at thirty five
Speaker 4: dollars a months for seniors. By the way, black folks
Speaker 4: are sixty percent more likely to be diagnosed with diabetes.
Speaker 4: He wants to get rid of it with that project
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Everybody needs to check that out.
Speaker 4: What he would do to get rid of Social Security
Speaker 4: or at least raise the age to seventy, so you'd
Speaker 4: have to work to seventy to be able to qualify,
Speaker 4: get rid of Medicare, get rid of the Affordable Care Act.
Speaker 4: And that's just on health policy, not to mention bringing
Speaker 4: back not only tax cuts for the richest people, but
Speaker 4: what he would do that is about eliminating or reducing
Speaker 4: the ability of corporations to required to pay overtime overtime pay, so.
Speaker 3: You could work and the corporations wouldn't have to pay you.
Speaker 1: For it for overtime work for free, that's right.
Speaker 4: And overtime means you are actually working a longer day,
Speaker 4: which means you are more tired, which means it requires
Speaker 4: more exertion. That's why we have overtime pay, so you
Speaker 4: don't take advantage of workers. In addition to all of that,
Speaker 4: we're looking at Donald Trump, basically somebody who has never
Speaker 4: been and understanding of the issues that affect the community
Speaker 4: about disparities. And I'm gonna talk, for example, about how
Speaker 4: when he was a landlord he denied rent to black families.
Speaker 4: You look at what he did in terms of taking
Speaker 4: out a full page ad in the New York Times
Speaker 4: against the Central Park five, which were a bunch of
Speaker 4: They're not young adults, they were teenagers. Black and brown
Speaker 4: teenagers took out a full page add in the New
Speaker 4: York Times calling for their execution for crimes they did
Speaker 4: not commit.
Speaker 1: They were innocent. Donald Trump who.
Speaker 4: Said of the first black president of the United States,
Speaker 4: the birtherism to have people question whether he was born
Speaker 4: in the United States, to try and diminish, and then
Speaker 4: most recently, you look in this very election legal black
Speaker 4: immigrants in Springfield, Ohio saying they're eating their pets.
Speaker 1: So, you know, part of what we have to help
Speaker 1: you understanders. Don't think you're on Donald Trump's club. You're
Speaker 1: not right. He's not going to be thinking about you.
Speaker 1: You think he's having you over for dinner.
Speaker 4: You think that when he's going when he's with his buddies,
Speaker 4: his billionaire buddies, he's thinking about what we need to
Speaker 4: do to deal with addressing, for example, my work around
Speaker 4: what I'm doing to address disparities in black men's health
Speaker 4: around colon cancer, around what we need to do around screenings,
Speaker 4: what we need to do around prostate cancer. Black men
Speaker 4: are twice as likely to have and screenings, what we
Speaker 4: need to do.
Speaker 3: To address I'm a survivor of prostate cancer.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 3: things you would like to do to keep them because
Speaker 3: the economy seems to be heading in the right direction,
Speaker 3: but the inflation, gas prices extremely high, groceries are extremely high.
Speaker 3: This rent, I mean it used to be when I
Speaker 3: was renting. They moved the rent up forty dollars a year.
Speaker 3: Now the even moving it up four hundred.
Speaker 4: Dec So let's talk about that. I'm glad you raised that.
Speaker 4: So for example groceries, Yes, the price is still too high.
Speaker 1: You know what, I know it. Yes, part of my
Speaker 1: plan is to deal with price gouging. I did it
Speaker 1: when I was Attorney general.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it as president, which is these companies
Speaker 4: that will jack up the prices and groceries to take
Speaker 4: advantage of people in need, and in particular during a
Speaker 4: crisis like what you see around the pandemic or Hurricane Leen. Yes,
Speaker 4: Milk right, yes, Milton right.
Speaker 1: So there's that. In terms of housing.
Speaker 4: First of all, we know that black families are forty
Speaker 4: percent less likely to own their home, and.
Speaker 1: We can go back to redlining. We can go back
Speaker 1: to policies that were by law.
Speaker 4: Or practice meant to not give black folks equal opportunity
Speaker 4: to home ownership, especially in certain neighborhoods. We can go
Speaker 4: back to what happened around the GI Bill and when
Speaker 4: all those the Great Generation we called them, came back
Speaker 4: and there was federal policy to say, you all fought
Speaker 4: for our country, We're going to give you a boost
Speaker 4: around helping you buy homes, but those black servicemen, and
Speaker 4: it was mostly meant those black servicemen did not, so
Speaker 4: you had then a time when there was a boost
Speaker 4: for it ended up being not for black service members.
Speaker 1: So part of my policy is to.
Speaker 4: One create a fund so that we will give a
Speaker 4: twenty five thousand dollar down payment to first time homeowners
Speaker 4: to just help people get in the door. We will
Speaker 4: deal with the rent issue because part of what we're
Speaker 4: seeing in Atlanta and places across our countries, these corporations
Speaker 4: are buying up all these properties, which means then that
Speaker 4: they don't have to deal with competition between the properties,
Speaker 4: and they're jacking up rent costs. So it's about also
Speaker 4: going after that corporate gouging around what they're doing to
Speaker 4: buy up and then jack up the prices of rent.
Speaker 4: We also need to help people with small business ownership.
Speaker 4: I did even before I was running for president, a
Speaker 4: tour I called it the Opportunity Economy Tour, focused on
Speaker 4: black men and black entrepreneurs.
Speaker 1: What we know is, unlike Donald Trump, we got four.
Speaker 4: Hundred million dollars handed to him practically on a silver platter.
Speaker 4: And by the way, Shannon file for bankruptcy six times.
Speaker 4: Everybody wants to say he's a great businessman, take a
Speaker 4: look at his record. I know that so many of
Speaker 4: our entrepreneurs who have great ideas don't have access to capital,
Speaker 4: but they have serious work ethic, great ideas, and a
Speaker 4: plan to do the work. So part of my plan
Speaker 4: is to increase access to capital, including giving twenty thousand
Speaker 4: dollars forgivable loans for startup capital for people to buy
Speaker 4: the equipment, and then to change the tax deduction so
Speaker 4: whereas it is now five thousand dollars, to make it
Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollars to start a new business, because nobody
Speaker 4: can start a new business on five thousand dollars, and
Speaker 4: the direct benefit when we're looking at black entrepreneurs is
Speaker 4: profound and all it is is about saying this Americans
Speaker 4: in general, regardless of their racer gender, we have ambition,
Speaker 4: We have aspirations, we have dreams, but not everyone has
Speaker 4: access to the opportunity to let some actually accomplish that.
Speaker 1: I want to increase access to opportunity.
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Speaker 3: become president, what measures would you put in place to
Speaker 3: make sure Social Security benefits continue? Because there are reports
Speaker 3: that it could possibly be depleted by twenty thirty three,
Speaker 3: and they're estimated that eleven thousand people turn at least
Speaker 3: sixty five years of age every single Yeah, so what
Speaker 3: are you going to do to make sure because that
Speaker 3: you know people disability to retirement survivors with beneficiary, what
Speaker 3: are you going to do to make sure that that continues?
Speaker 4: So, Shannon, to your point, there was an independent economic
Speaker 4: review of Donald Trump's plan which shows that Social Security
Speaker 4: in the next six years would be insolvent under his plan,
Speaker 4: meaning that it would not be able to pay out
Speaker 4: what hardworking people who deserve dignity and their retirement deserve.
Speaker 1: And as you and I both know, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of our seniors who their only source.
Speaker 4: Of income is a social Security check, correct, right, is
Speaker 4: they're the only way they're going to pay the rent
Speaker 4: or have food on the table. So my plan is
Speaker 4: about doing what we need to do to put the
Speaker 4: resources back into social security, but also expanding it because
Speaker 4: here's part of the problem of social security is that
Speaker 4: for our aging seniors, if they are a couple, for example,
Speaker 4: and one of the spouse passes, that cuts their social
Speaker 4: Security benefits almost in half. So part of my plan
Speaker 4: is to reconfigure it so that that surviving spouse does
Speaker 4: not then have a crisis where they've already lost their
Speaker 4: loved one. But we also just have to understand on
Speaker 4: a macro level, we've got to require that billionaires of
Speaker 4: corporations pay their fair share right they can afford to.
Speaker 4: And that's part of what is the difference between me
Speaker 4: and Donald Trump. My plan is about tax cuts for
Speaker 4: small businesses, for working people, for middle class people. One
Speaker 4: hundred million Americans will benefit around tax cuts. My plan
Speaker 4: is that no taxes will be raised for anybody making
Speaker 4: less than four hundred thousand dollars a year. My plan
Speaker 4: is that we give young parents a six thousand dollars
Speaker 4: child tax credit to help them pay for childcare for
Speaker 4: a crib bar or car seat, because you and I
Speaker 4: both know the vast majority of our young parents have
Speaker 4: a natural desire to parent their children well, but not
Speaker 4: always the resources. And back to the way I was raised,
Speaker 4: I know that the children of the community are the
Speaker 4: children of the community that you and I will benefit
Speaker 4: from that young family having the resources they need. So
Speaker 4: it's about all of us benefiting. But it's a state
Speaker 4: of mind, and it's a perspective. Mine is about thinking
Speaker 4: about the challenges people face and getting them help. Donald
Speaker 4: Trump is full time focused on himself. You watch his rallies.
Speaker 4: He will spend full time talking about I was going
Speaker 4: to say, Freddy Krueger Hannibal Lecter might as well be
Speaker 4: Freddy Krueger Hannibal Lecter. He'll spend full time talking about
Speaker 4: his grievances, about what everyone has done to him. He'll
Speaker 4: talk about himself, but he does not talk about the
Speaker 4: American people. He does not talk about what he's going
Speaker 4: to do for middle class he does not talk about
Speaker 4: what he's going to do for families, for working people.
Speaker 1: And we're twelve days out.
Speaker 4: This is probably one of the most serious elections that
Speaker 4: we have faced in our lifetime my perspective, and I
Speaker 4: will be the kind of president who spends full time
Speaker 4: focused on the needs of the people. That has been
Speaker 4: my career. I have spent my whole career as a
Speaker 4: public servant trying to uplift the condition of other people,
Speaker 4: knowing what is possible and doing it with a sense
Speaker 4: of optimism. On January twentieth, a new president is going
Speaker 4: into the White House.
Speaker 1: Period.
Speaker 4: A new president is going into the White House. Do
Speaker 4: you want to look at the Oval Office and see
Speaker 4: a Donald Trump who's going to be sitting there filling
Speaker 4: out his enemy's list, spending full time figuring out retribution
Speaker 4: and revenge. Or looking at the Oval Office and knowing
Speaker 4: you have a president in there who is creating a
Speaker 4: to do list that's about what to do to help
Speaker 4: the American people.
Speaker 3: So raising minimum age of social Security that's not on
Speaker 3: the table for you.
Speaker 1: No, No, here's the look.
Speaker 4: People work hard all their lives and they deserve to
Speaker 4: be able to retire with dignity. I'll tell you how
Speaker 4: I come at this. I come at it from a
Speaker 4: number of perspectives, including thinking about how I was raised.
Speaker 4: In terms of how you take care of the elders, right.
Speaker 4: I think about it in terms of taking care of
Speaker 4: my mother when she was sick and dying from cancer.
Speaker 4: So one of my policies, for example, is to help
Speaker 4: Medicare pay for home health care for seniors. Why because look,
Speaker 4: I did it, and it means, you know, trying to
Speaker 4: cook for an elder, to make something they feel like eating, right,
Speaker 4: to help them put on a sweater. And we have
Speaker 4: so many people who are in the Sandwich generation. They're
Speaker 4: raising their young kids and taking care of their parents.
Speaker 1: And either they have to.
Speaker 4: Deplete their savings to qualify for Medicaid right to be
Speaker 4: able to help pay for home health care, or they
Speaker 4: have to quit their job to do the work of
Speaker 4: taking care of their kids and their parent.
Speaker 1: And I just believe that's not right.
Speaker 4: That we should have policies that give people dignity, especially
Speaker 4: our seniors. So my plan is Medicare pays for home
Speaker 4: health care. And no, I would not raise the age
Speaker 4: of eligibility for Social Security because the same thing, we
Speaker 4: shouldn't force people to work until they're seventy in order
Speaker 4: to retire and have a moment to just enjoy their
Speaker 4: life and not worry about how they're going to pay
Speaker 4: their rent.
Speaker 3: It's Medicare for all a priority for you?
Speaker 4: What is a no, What is a priority for me
Speaker 4: is making sure that access to health care is a
Speaker 4: right and not just a privilege of those who can
Speaker 4: afford it. That's why I am in favor of and
Speaker 4: have pushed and been a leader on capping the cost
Speaker 4: of insulent thirty five dollars a month. And why intend
Speaker 4: to allow Medicare to actually negotiate against the big pharmaceutical
Speaker 4: companies to bring down the cost of prescription medication for everybody.
Speaker 4: That's why I have fought for war we need to
Speaker 4: do around making sure Medicare covers senior care. Access to
Speaker 4: healthcare should not be a question of how much money
Speaker 4: you have in your back pocket. That's just not right,
Speaker 4: and I feel strongly about that.
Speaker 3: Blacks for Trump, they feel that Trump is better for
Speaker 3: the black community. Can you explain that Donald Trump's history
Speaker 3: with blacks? Where did this come back all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's been like this because a lot of
Speaker 3: people used to say I'm Donald Trump or the ghetto
Speaker 3: because he would I mean for a lot of blacks,
Speaker 3: not all, but for some black matterm be people. Whether
Speaker 3: we want to admit it or not. He's revered by
Speaker 3: some blacks.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing, the question for everybody. Should he
Speaker 4: be president of the United States? Okay, right, that's the question.
Speaker 4: Should he have the ability to sit behind the seal
Speaker 4: of the President of the United States When he says
Speaker 4: he wants to determine it the Constitution of the United States.
Speaker 4: You know what that would mean in the Constitution the
Speaker 4: United States? Is your Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable search
Speaker 4: and seizure, your Fifth Amendment right, your sixth Amendment right
Speaker 4: to an attorney.
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of rights will be going to first Amendment.
Speaker 4: But the first Amendment, the second Amendment. Look, I'm in
Speaker 4: favor of the second Amendment. I don't believe we should
Speaker 4: be taking anybody's guns away. He wants to terminate the Constitution.
Speaker 1: The United States.
Speaker 4: He is the same one, like I said earlier, who
Speaker 4: denied rent to black families, who took out that full
Speaker 4: page ad in the New York Times calling for the
Speaker 4: execution of those children who birtherism accusations against the first
Speaker 4: black president. Not to mention his please ask folks to
Speaker 4: google Project twenty twenty five. He would get rid of
Speaker 4: the thirty five dollars a month cap on insulin. We
Speaker 4: know how many of our seniors had it. I'll give
Speaker 4: you another example of why Donald Trump has not earned
Speaker 4: the support of folks to be president of the United
Speaker 4: States again. When he was president the last time during
Speaker 4: the height of COVID. During the height of COVID, one
Speaker 4: in three black Americans knew somebody who died from COVID.
Speaker 4: You remember those days, and people couldn't get their hands
Speaker 4: on a COVID test. At that very same time, Donald
Speaker 4: Trump as president, secretly sent COVID tests to the President
Speaker 4: of Russia for his personal use while Americans were dying
Speaker 4: every day. He has not earned the right to be
Speaker 4: president of the United States.
Speaker 1: It's one thing. If he has a television show that's
Speaker 1: very popular, he.
Speaker 4: Can put his name on a building, even though we
Speaker 4: all know he was not a terribly good businessman, which
Speaker 4: is why he filed for bankruptcy six times.
Speaker 1: But that is one thing.
Speaker 4: To be president of the United States means to try
Speaker 4: and find common ground, to build consensus, to lift up
Speaker 4: the American can people instead of trying to beat people
Speaker 4: down all the time. It means solving problems, which means
Speaker 4: you have to be able to get out of your
Speaker 4: own head and scan to be concerned about the well
Speaker 4: being of other people and then do something about it.
Speaker 1: Does anyone think Donald Trump thinks that way?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, empathy to require you to divorce your own
Speaker 3: ego to see yourself as someone else.
Speaker 4: That's exactly right, That's exactly and we know that's not
Speaker 4: his character. So it's about is this the right person
Speaker 4: for that job? Right?
Speaker 3: He said, immigrants are taking black jobs. I don't know
Speaker 3: what those black jobs that they're taking. Can you elaborate
Speaker 3: on that, what the immigrants are taking? What black jobs
Speaker 3: are they?
Speaker 4: Well, it's just another example of him trying to divide
Speaker 4: and him trying to scare people. It's just another example
Speaker 4: of him doing that, of him trying to say it's
Speaker 4: either you or them, right, And the other thing is
Speaker 4: that it's incredibly demeaning because and he still has not
Speaker 4: been for define Donald Trump, what do you define as
Speaker 4: a black job, Because let me tell you what I
Speaker 4: define as a black job, vice President of the United States.
Speaker 3: It's a good one, right, it is. I don't know
Speaker 3: about to pay, but it's a good job to have. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, not everybody is, you know, what I want
Speaker 3: to ask, you've been in basically your adult life, you've
Speaker 3: been a public.
Speaker 1: Service, yes, I have. But ag my whole adult life.
Speaker 3: You've been a DA, You've been a senator, you've been VP.
Speaker 3: Is that what you envisioned, is that what you always
Speaker 3: wanted to be was a public servant.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to serve.
Speaker 2: You know, I.
Speaker 4: Was raised I mean back to whether you are however
Speaker 4: you are raised, in the community in which you are raised,
Speaker 4: including the church and which you are raised. I have
Speaker 4: always believed that it is an important pursuit to figure
Speaker 4: out how you can serve it.
Speaker 1: And we can do it in different ways.
Speaker 4: Right, I chose public service, you chose a different But
Speaker 4: it's about service. And I have always I mean, I've
Speaker 4: only had one client my entire life, the people what
Speaker 4: I and the reason I keep doing it is because
Speaker 4: I know the difference that I and we can make
Speaker 4: when we believe in what is possible and then work
Speaker 4: hard at it. And my pledge in this campaign to everyone,
Speaker 4: regardless of who you are, where you live, what you
Speaker 4: look like, I will be a president for all Americans,
Speaker 4: and I will work to bring our country back together
Speaker 4: because frankly, I think people are exhausted with the anger,
Speaker 4: with the hate, with the division, the attempt to have
Speaker 4: Americans pointing their fingers at each other. I think people
Speaker 4: are exhausting. It's not healthy for the productivity of our country.
Speaker 4: Do we want to strive? Do we want to thrive
Speaker 4: or do we want to spend full time with vengeance?
Speaker 4: The meaning of the po and living a life of
Speaker 4: services about I think the importance of lifting people up,
Speaker 4: not tearing them down.
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Speaker 3: problem that they have to you is that you're making
Speaker 3: political promises and that you're just pandering. The problem that
Speaker 3: I have with that it just seems like only black
Speaker 3: people pander. Like when other candidates go and shows and
Speaker 3: they say they're gonna do this, they're they're not pandering.
Speaker 3: They're telling you, laying out their elaborate plan on what
Speaker 3: they're going to do. But it seems to you when
Speaker 3: you promise that if I'm president, this is what I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do in the first ninety days, this is what
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. My administration's gonna do while I'm
Speaker 3: in office. You're pandering. How do you get through to
Speaker 3: those that says, look, this is what I'm going to
Speaker 3: do if I'm elected president. These are the policies, and
Speaker 3: they will lead to meaningful and impactful change.
Speaker 1: Well, part of it is just to be candid.
Speaker 4: I think that there's sadly a misinformation out there about
Speaker 4: who I am and what I've done, because if people
Speaker 4: are informed about fact, they will know that almost everything
Speaker 4: that I'm talking about doing as president is built on
Speaker 4: a foundation of work that I've been doing for years.
Speaker 1: If it is about.
Speaker 4: Economic empowerment of the Black community in all communities, I've
Speaker 4: been working on that. As Vice President, I am responsible
Speaker 4: for billions of dollars from big banks and big corporations,
Speaker 4: including technology companies, getting into community banks to increase access
Speaker 4: to capital for minority owned and other small businesses. If
Speaker 4: you look at my work over a period of years,
Speaker 4: my focus again on something like maternal mortality is long standing,
Speaker 4: which directly impacts black.
Speaker 1: Men and black women right and the black family.
Speaker 4: If you look at the work that I am doing
Speaker 4: that is about small businesses, you know, the person who
Speaker 4: helped my mother raise us, who was a second mother
Speaker 4: to us, was a small business owner. I have always
Speaker 4: focused for such a long time on what we need
Speaker 4: to do, knowing that our small businesses are part of
Speaker 4: the culture of our communities, right including the economic fabric
Speaker 4: and strength of the community. So what I'm talking about
Speaker 4: doing right now is based on long standing work. It's
Speaker 4: not new, but as president of the United States, part
Speaker 4: of why it is important is it is a new
Speaker 4: approach to that job. It is about a new way
Speaker 4: that is based on a new generation of leadership, that
Speaker 4: is based on new ideas and frankly, a different experience
Speaker 4: that brings my commitment to the work I am talking
Speaker 4: about into being.
Speaker 3: Can you give us a breakdown of how you will
Speaker 3: allow blacks and the minorities to access capital, because you
Speaker 3: speak a lot about capital, and in order for people
Speaker 3: to become successful and have some wealth is that they
Speaker 3: need to have access. And that's right it started.
Speaker 4: So that's in fact, why I did, starting last year
Speaker 4: or earlier this year, my economic opportunity to wait before
Speaker 4: I was running for president, because I realized that so
Speaker 4: many of our entrepreneurs don't actually have that. We need
Speaker 4: to do better in getting information to people about what's
Speaker 4: available to them. So, for example, through the Small Business Administration,
Speaker 4: there are funds available to help people create a business plan,
Speaker 4: There is resources available to help people just know how
Speaker 4: that you need to run a payroll, how you need
Speaker 4: to pay business taxes. Part of my plan, by the way,
Speaker 4: is to simplify taxes for small businesses. I like to say,
Speaker 4: it's basically Dow gonna date myself, Like you remember the
Speaker 4: ten forty Did you ever have to do a ten forty?
Speaker 1: Easy? Probably?
Speaker 4: Never? Okay I did, But you know, simplifying tax returns
Speaker 4: for people, including our small businesses. But the work that
Speaker 4: I have done and will continue to do is about
Speaker 4: knowing that we don't lack for hard work, we don't
Speaker 4: lack for good ideas, but we do lack for information
Speaker 4: about the help that is available. So that's part of
Speaker 4: how it is going to be about increasing access to capital.
Speaker 4: Part of it is about putting more money. So I
Speaker 4: called up and got in touch with and worked with
Speaker 4: some of the big CEOs of the biggest corporations in
Speaker 4: America and said, and the big banks that you all
Speaker 4: don't necessarily you're not there in the community where you
Speaker 4: can get one hundred thousand dollars loan to a small business.
Speaker 4: You guys deal at a different level, but those one
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollar loans for a startup will go a
Speaker 4: long way.
Speaker 1: Let's get get those billions of dollars that you've.
Speaker 4: Got, put them into community banks who are in the community,
Speaker 4: who know what the community needs, what they want, what
Speaker 4: the consumers theyre want, and then support those small businesses.
Speaker 1: So that's my approach to access to capital.
Speaker 4: Including making sure that people have again simplifying taxes for
Speaker 4: small businesses. You know why, Shannon, small businesses can't afford
Speaker 4: to hire a bunch of accountants and a bunch of lawyers.
Speaker 4: But that shouldn't be the reason they fail because they
Speaker 4: didn't fill.
Speaker 1: Out the form properly. Right, So my approach is.
Speaker 4: Really understanding the culture, understanding the needs, and then trying
Speaker 4: to fix problems. I love fixing problems with common sense solutions.
Speaker 4: And again, look, Donald Trump is never he is never
Speaker 4: going to relate necessarily to the kind of folks that
Speaker 4: I'm talking about, who on the ground just need to
Speaker 4: be seen and heard. And then let's fix the problems.
Speaker 4: Let's address the challenges to let them not just get by,
Speaker 4: but get ahead. And I want to put a fine
Speaker 4: point on this. Maybe it's a new perspective.
Speaker 1: I think it is.
Speaker 4: I believe that we have had great success in bringing
Speaker 4: black unemployment down.
Speaker 1: To historic loaves. Yes, but for me, that's a floor.
Speaker 4: For me, that's a floor because what I know is
Speaker 4: that it should be baseline that everybody's working.
Speaker 1: That's not enough.
Speaker 4: People want to build wealth, yes, and intergenerational wealth, correct,
Speaker 4: and I want to help people do that right. I know,
Speaker 4: what if folks want to be able to take a
Speaker 4: nice vacation from time time, have nice Christmas gifts for
Speaker 4: their kids under the tree, and it can't just be
Speaker 4: about well, you've got a job, applaud me for what I've.
Speaker 1: Done for you. And that's the spirit with which I
Speaker 1: do my work.
Speaker 3: I saw President Trump on a TV show and he
Speaker 3: talked about defunding the Department of Education. Yes, basically we
Speaker 3: know that's going to affect communities like us that don't
Speaker 3: have the resources. And then because he says he doesn't
Speaker 3: if they talked about slavery, they talked about slavery, which
Speaker 3: is a part of our history.
Speaker 1: It's up that they're trying to cover up that they're
Speaker 1: trying to cover up.
Speaker 3: To talk about racism. And he said, well, what we
Speaker 3: would do if they talked about it, they wouldn't get funding.
Speaker 3: And we know what communities are going to be most
Speaker 3: impacted by non funding.
Speaker 4: And understand that they want to get rid of the
Speaker 4: Department of Education and get rid of head Start. You
Speaker 4: know whose kids are a head start? They want to
Speaker 4: it is And to your point, and I'm so glad
Speaker 4: you pointed this out. You know, these are the same
Speaker 4: people who basically suggested that enslaved people benefited from slavery,
Speaker 4: the same people who are trying to ban and are
Speaker 4: banning books. And again, if we don't teach America's full history,
Speaker 4: we will never ensure that we don't make the same
Speaker 4: yes to do those same things again.
Speaker 3: Let's learn from that painful part of our history to
Speaker 3: make sure we don't repeat it, but not by not
Speaker 3: covering it up. Let's have an open and honest conversation
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 4: It happened, and the effects of it, yes, and the
Speaker 4: present day effects of it.
Speaker 3: I think we both agree. I think we can all
Speaker 3: agree on this that there is a problem with I
Speaker 3: don't know how the correct term I think it's undocumented.
Speaker 3: How do we get how do we get a hold
Speaker 3: on that matter? VP? How do we make sure because
Speaker 3: I think I've heard you say you want a path
Speaker 3: to citizenship, but we want to, you know, make sure
Speaker 3: people come in and do things properly.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4: So first of all, I have personally prosecuted transnational criminal
Speaker 4: organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings.
Speaker 4: I have prosecuted the Sinaloa cartel, Okay, the guadalajarror cartel.
Speaker 4: So I put my record up to anybody in terms
Speaker 4: of how strongly I feel about having a secure border
Speaker 4: and making sure that there is not that kind of
Speaker 4: trafficking into America. I also know that we need to
Speaker 4: put more resources at the border, which is why I
Speaker 4: supported a bill that came about, including from the most
Speaker 4: conservative members of Congress, to put fifteen hundred more border
Speaker 4: agents at the border to do what we need to
Speaker 4: do to cut down the flow of fentanyl coming into
Speaker 4: the United States, which is killing people of every race
Speaker 4: and background. With more resources would have gone to prosecuting
Speaker 4: human trafficking. Donald Trump got word of that bill, and
Speaker 4: he knew it would be a solution to a problem,
Speaker 4: which is that we have a broken immigration system. He
Speaker 4: got word of the bill and he told his friends
Speaker 4: in Congress, don't put it up for a vote, don't
Speaker 4: let it go any further, because you see, he wants
Speaker 4: to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem,
Speaker 4: and is putting out tens of millions of dollars of
Speaker 4: campaign commercials full time trying to suggest that he cares
Speaker 4: about strengthening a border when he had an opportunity to
Speaker 4: participate in a solution, which he killed because he's not.
Speaker 1: About problem solving, it's about a political game for him.
Speaker 4: My point is we got to strengthen the border, and
Speaker 4: we need to have an immigration system that is fair
Speaker 4: and humane and strong in terms of making sure that
Speaker 4: people have to earn citizenship, they have to work hard
Speaker 4: to get it. My plan includes also strengthening what we
Speaker 4: need to do in terms of illegal entry in between
Speaker 4: ports of entry, what we need to do to put
Speaker 4: more support for border patrol agents, put more technology at
Speaker 4: the border. But it includes also you know, I'm never
Speaker 4: going to talk about people from Haiti eating their pets,
Speaker 4: and I think that we also know we don't want
Speaker 4: an immigration system that's about separating children from their parents.
Speaker 4: We can do it in a humane way. But the
Speaker 4: bottom line is we can fix these problems. The solutions
Speaker 4: are at hand. He stands in the world and in
Speaker 4: particular on this issue.
Speaker 3: If you were to become president, would you ask Congress
Speaker 3: to bring re institute that build and try to get
Speaker 3: it through.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. And also I would work across the aisle with Republicans.
Speaker 4: There are a lot of Republicans supporting me in this campaign,
Speaker 4: and I would work with Republicans to bring this bill
Speaker 4: back up so I can sign it into law. And
Speaker 4: I do want to talk about that for a moment.
Speaker 4: This is not twenty sixteen or twenty twenty in terms
Speaker 4: of how people are thinking about Donald Trump. He was president,
Speaker 4: and the people who worked the most closely with him,
Speaker 4: Republicans at the highest level, his former chief of staff,
Speaker 4: his former defense secretaries, his former national security advisor, and
Speaker 4: his former vice president have collectively said he is dangerous
Speaker 4: and unfit to be president of the United States.
Speaker 1: And Shannon, you can just watch his rallies.
Speaker 4: I mean, did you see that thirty nine minutes of
Speaker 4: him swaying back back and forth to Ymca. No, the
Speaker 4: man you have to watch and I encourage everybody who's
Speaker 4: watching this watch what he's doing at these rallies. He
Speaker 4: is increasingly unstable and unfit to be president, according to
Speaker 4: the people who knew in best, all Republicans, by the
Speaker 4: way I just referred to, who know he is unfit
Speaker 4: to be commander, and she he who will talk about
Speaker 4: service members. A lot of your listeners and the people
Speaker 4: who are a fan of your show have served or
Speaker 4: do serve in the United States military. He talks about
Speaker 4: military service members as being uncourageous, as being cowards, suckers,
Speaker 4: and losers. This is how the man talks. And so
Speaker 4: let's not get distracted by who he was on the Apprentice.
Speaker 4: Let's not get distracted by whatever you know building in
Speaker 4: whatever city in Vegas or wherever has his name on it.
Speaker 4: Let's look at the job of president of the United
Speaker 4: States and is he fit to do that job? And
Speaker 4: by the people who know him best, including some most
Speaker 4: recently a four star Marine general, his former chief of staff,
Speaker 4: they all say, those who know him best, he is
Speaker 4: unfit and dangerous.
Speaker 3: The previous administration, your administration that you were in. They
Speaker 3: got kudos for the student loan relief. What's the contingency plan,
Speaker 3: because I see it's still trying to go through and
Speaker 3: some of the courts have shot it down. Do you
Speaker 3: have a contingency plan to continue the student relief.
Speaker 4: I'm going to keep fighting for it, and yes, because
Speaker 4: first of all, what I know is that too many
Speaker 4: people have been weighed down by their student loan debt. Yes,
Speaker 4: to the point they question whether they can have a family,
Speaker 4: whether they can can retire at some point where they
Speaker 4: could buy a home. So that's why I pushed for
Speaker 4: what we did around student loan debt. And thankfully, for example,
Speaker 4: we have billions of dollars in student loan debt reliefs
Speaker 4: that have gone, for example, to public servants like teachers
Speaker 4: and nurses and firefighters.
Speaker 1: But there's more we need to do.
Speaker 4: But you know, if I go into various communities like
Speaker 4: here in Atlanta and ask people how many people got
Speaker 4: their student debt relieved, the number of hands that go
Speaker 4: up and the life changing experience people have had reminds
Speaker 4: me of the importance of this fight, and I'm going
Speaker 4: to continue to do it.
Speaker 3: Have you let people know that President Trump, if you
Speaker 3: were to get back in the office, he wants to
Speaker 3: offer police complete immunity that they can do no wrong,
Speaker 3: no matter what how gregious the act may be. They
Speaker 3: have complete immunity. Do people understand what that? Do they
Speaker 3: really understand what that means? Matter? VP?
Speaker 1: I hope so.
Speaker 4: And I encourage people to go online to see how
Speaker 4: he says it. I encourage people to go online to
Speaker 4: see how he talks about a day of violence? Did
Speaker 4: you ever see the movies? Understand? I again, don't take
Speaker 4: my word for it. Take his, Yeah, take his and
Speaker 4: see where he stands on these issues.
Speaker 3: I want to get you out of here on this one,
Speaker 3: a madam, VP, You like myself attended and graduated from
Speaker 3: a historically black institution proudly, and it just goes to
Speaker 3: show you if you look at myself stephen A. Michael Strahan,
Speaker 3: three of the most prominent voices in morning television, attended
Speaker 3: and graduated from an HBC and self ascended to the
Speaker 3: highest of eyes graduated from an HBCU. What would you
Speaker 3: what message would you like to share with students that
Speaker 3: all these historically black university and colleges. What would you
Speaker 3: like what message would you like to share them?
Speaker 4: Oh? No, your excellence and know we are so proud
Speaker 4: of you. And we want you to have ambition. We
Speaker 4: applaud your ambition. We want you to know you can
Speaker 4: do and be anything, and don't ever hear know and
Speaker 4: that know you stand on broad shoulders right because part
Speaker 4: of what we know is we have a legacy. We
Speaker 4: do and we stand then in that path knowing that
Speaker 4: we also have the honor and the duty of excelling
Speaker 4: in every way possible, being able to see what is
Speaker 4: possible and not be.
Speaker 1: Burdened by other people's limited ability to see the same.
Speaker 3: One more thing, I think something that's very, very near
Speaker 3: and dear to your heart is Roby Wade. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think fifty plus here, I think seventy two seventy three
Speaker 3: when it was Roe v. Wade said, Hey, women have
Speaker 3: the right to their bodies, and all of a sudden
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court struck it down and says, no, you don't,
Speaker 3: we have control over that. What would that mean to you?
Speaker 3: So how do you get that? How do you go
Speaker 3: back and fight to make sure women still have control
Speaker 3: of a of their bodies?
Speaker 1: So I'm so glad you brought up chan.
Speaker 4: First of all, think about one of the most basic
Speaker 4: rights that you could imagine is the right for you
Speaker 4: to be able to make decisions about your own body.
Speaker 3: Your own body, your reproductive rising.
Speaker 4: And the court just took that right away from women
Speaker 4: to make decisions about their own body and not have
Speaker 4: their government tell them what to do. And I think
Speaker 4: an important emphasis for me is you don't have to
Speaker 4: give up your faith or deeply held beliefs on this
Speaker 4: subject to agree. The government shouldn't be telling her what
Speaker 4: to do. If she chooses, she'll talk with her pastor,
Speaker 4: her priest, or rabbi, her a mom, but not the
Speaker 4: government telling her. And we need to fight against us.
Speaker 4: We need to understand how many women are suffering miscarriage
Speaker 4: and being denied help because the doctors are afraid they
Speaker 4: may land up in jail. In Texas, do you know
Speaker 4: they provide prison for life for doctors or nurses who
Speaker 4: provide reproductive prison for life?
Speaker 1: Shannon in the state of Georgia, a beautiful young.
Speaker 4: Woman, a mother of a six year old son, died
Speaker 4: because of these Trump abortion bands.
Speaker 1: The majority of black women and the men who love
Speaker 1: them live in the South.
Speaker 4: Do you know in every state in the South except
Speaker 4: for Virginia, there is a Trump abortion band.
Speaker 3: Yes, I do. Hopefully everybody else knows that also.
Speaker 4: Right, and so we all have to stand, regardless of
Speaker 4: your gender, regardless of your race, your background, we have
Speaker 4: to stand and say, look, this is just simply not right,
Speaker 4: and we cannot stand for the notion that Donald Trump
Speaker 4: could be president of the United States.
Speaker 3: He who.
Speaker 4: Chose a Supreme Court that would take this right from
Speaker 4: the women of America and the men who love them,
Speaker 4: and now we have women suffering to such an extent
Speaker 4: as they are. I think it's one of the most
Speaker 4: fundamental rights that's at play.
Speaker 3: One more thing before you go, Madam VP, Yes, who's
Speaker 3: the real hut?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't go to either one. So
Speaker 3: I just I just wanted to hear you, you know,
Speaker 3: Madam VP.
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