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Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman and I

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Speaker 1: am joined by my co host, Mike eff my companion,

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Speaker 1: my compadre professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon, Chad.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: enjoy those final moments. This is our Thursday, Week three

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Speaker 1: episode where we narrow the options on our quest to

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Speaker 1: agree for our five favorite picks of this week. By

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Speaker 1: with our record for the five picks we have landed

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Speaker 1: get into this thing, Simon. We got to check in

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Speaker 3: All right, Chad, so let's start where I feel like

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Speaker 3: games we didn't talk much about. I think people just

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Speaker 3: pro side is for those games. A lot of pro

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Speaker 3: love for the Bucks this week. A couple guys I

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Speaker 3: interesting that the professionals like the Bucks, just because.

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Speaker 2: I really liked the Jets there. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: Can I just say, I'm so glad to hear you

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Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be just like last week,

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Speaker 3: top of this with the calls here that everyone I've

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Speaker 3: Now they're on the road as a divisional dog, Denver

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Speaker 1: Uh, no surprise that everyone hates the Chiefs and we're

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Speaker 1: So look the number seven and a half at hard

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Speaker 2: And these I don't love. I do.

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Speaker 3: And there's a good reason that you feel that way, Chat,

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Speaker 3: So it's a unique spot when in the first nine

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Speaker 3: So you look at the last three years, and we've

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Speaker 2: The public overreacts. They move this number, especially early in

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Speaker 3: Know this was probably six and a half six, and

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Speaker 2: And this moves two three points like this touch nine.

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Speaker 3: like we're both gonna be. But long term, bet this spot.

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Speaker 3: Bet these type of numbers. The Browns, we know they're

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Speaker 1: Number, Simon. Every trend you talk about is flashing bright,

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Speaker 1: betting the Browns. Will it be in the final five?

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, if the Browns don't cover,

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Speaker 1: I'm never betting another underdog as long as we live.

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Speaker 1: Houston is a two point underdog at Jacksonville actually it's

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Speaker 3: No brainer, easy bet. If you love this show, you

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Speaker 2: Is someone hurt that it was? I here? But I

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Speaker 3: There's just a lot of head fakes with these professional betters,

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Speaker 3: I talked about the trend of these divisional dogs on

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Speaker 3: And it's another spot where the total if it's less

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Speaker 2: And you've seen a quarterback that's uncomfortable right now for

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Speaker 3: that good as a dog. In his career. He's eleven

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Speaker 3: him undervalue him. That shows that TJ and the Texans

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Speaker 3: And it's an AFC South game, and the AFC South

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Speaker 3: against them, and that's again I'm upset. I wish this

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Speaker 2: At one and a half.

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Speaker 3: I'm still probably in on them for our contest because

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Speaker 3: But the amount of value're getting on the line as

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Speaker 3: love that you're lined up on this one with me here.

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Speaker 3: I felt like you're a hesitant on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: I see you've come around pretty big year, as we

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I also started thinking about and

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Speaker 3: Explain yourself with the trends every week. I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like I do because no one cares.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm not betting this based on the trends. All right,

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Speaker 2: Then don't do that. Don't bet this game because of

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Speaker 3: I'm just letting people know that there's day that backs up,

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Speaker 2: Why this number is what it is?

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Speaker 1: Can I explain why I actually like the game, why

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Speaker 2: Just every week? Don't be like and here again, people,

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Speaker 2: I don't really care about the trends. This is why

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like the game, and I do care about trends.

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Speaker 1: I like the game because I look at this matchup

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Speaker 1: The Jags beat themselves one week and then beat up

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Speaker 2: English I know, no more disclaimers, though, we get.

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Speaker 1: It Pittsburgh and New England. New England is a one

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Speaker 1: and a half point underdog. Look, I thought this would

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Speaker 1: I'm just really down on the Steelers, and we talked

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Speaker 1: I also think Rogers is pretty pedestrian. Christian Gonzales, the

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Speaker 1: Do I all of a sudden believe in Vrabel again?

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Speaker 1: You've been telling me I have to believe in Vrabel?

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Speaker 1: Am I believing in Vrabel right now?

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Speaker 3: I know it feels like we're supposed to in this spot,

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Speaker 3: right And I know that historically, you know, Tomlin's actually

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Speaker 3: that and they're just like, Okay, it shows that Tomlin

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Speaker 2: He's also struggled historically against his Patriots team.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't matter if Belichick had Brady or you know, Mac

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Speaker 3: for able, For me, I think we're in the alignment

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Speaker 3: gonna show itself all season. It's really about us believing

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Speaker 3: in Drake May if we're going to take this spot here, Chad,

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Speaker 3: People don't know what side of on I'm betting the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I'm on the Patriots. I like the number. I have

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Speaker 3: him as a favorite. But Drake may, you know, best

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Speaker 3: game of his career in no doubt last week against Miami.

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Speaker 3: But we talked Miami so bad and I go back

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Speaker 3: and what can give you pause? And you know this

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Speaker 3: like that, but none of it really falls to TJ.

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Speaker 3: He's actually been pretty dominant this year, especially in the

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Speaker 3: And there's just a lot that makes me nervous in

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Speaker 2: But I just can't. I can't get over the fact,

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Speaker 3: The same page, like we just Rogers just looks like

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Speaker 3: kind of know that, and they're just stacking up the

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Speaker 3: You expect to see a high dosage of Trevon Henderson, who,

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Speaker 3: no denying how talent is when he gets the ball

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Speaker 2: So I see ways of the Patriots attacking the Steelers team.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's tough for me to really, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's. Drake May is the conundrum. I'm just not

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be fooled by how well he

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Speaker 1: didn't look that good.

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Speaker 2: But the Raiders might be a good defense too.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing that's like Drake May trying to getting

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Speaker 1: The Rams at the Eagles. So this number is at

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Speaker 1: three at hard Rock bet, I think it's trending towards three.

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Speaker 1: At most other places it's still at three and a half,

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Speaker 1: but if you look at the the Juice, it's trending

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Speaker 3: in the week, almost everyone I talked to was on

439
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 3: the Rams side when it was four or four and

440
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 3: a half. So I do think it's just based on

441
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 3: the number right hard Rock now at three, I'd still

442
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 3: take Eagles at three and a half. Honestly, minus three

443
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 3: and a half, I'm I'm looking at this game. Is

444
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 3: I get why you'd feel more confident about betting the

445
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: Rams team, right? They look like an absolute juggernaut. Where

446
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 3: you look at the Eagle stats, I mean something crazy, right,

447
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: Hurts hasn't thrown for over one hundred and forty yards,

448
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 3: or maybe it's one hundred and fifty. Ever is it's

449
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 3: a really low through two weeks per game, and the

450
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: offense looks like it's struggling.

451
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: Everything's really tough to do.

452
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: The rams they're coming off arguably their best performance of

453
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 3: the McVeigh Stafford eir right, they were really put it together,

454
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 3: and it's interesting how they forget how that team was

455
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: totally out of sync and it kind of took a

456
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,239
Speaker 3: couple turnovers and things to get that juice flowing for them.

457
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: And this actually is a bad spot historically for McVeigh

458
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 3: and Stafford when they're playing against teams that are basically

459
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 3: above five hundred on the road together as a dog,

460
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: they're five and nine against the spread of this exact spot.

461
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 3: So this is a unique thing where they're pretty good

462
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: actually traveling east, but as a dog against a really

463
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 3: good team, they're bad in this spot historically, And that

464
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 3: could just be about more about how we feel about

465
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 3: where it's like, well, if you look back, it probably

466
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 3: makes sense where if you're getting Stafford and McVeigh is

467
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 3: a four and a half five point dog or a

468
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 3: three point dog against a good team, you're probably going

469
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 3: to be more trying to take them because that's you know,

470
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: that's more likely than to cover that number. You feels

471
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 3: like in your mind it's like they're just as good

472
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 3: as this team they're playing.

473
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 2: Why not take the doking.

474
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: I think that's what the public's doing here with professionals,

475
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: And this feels like a little bit like the Chiefs

476
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 3: last week, where that felt like not the lazy pro number,

477
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 3: but it did right the pros that were telling me

478
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: to take the Chiefs, it kind of felt a little

479
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 3: lazy and just being like, well it's my homes he

480
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: doesn't go own two and all. They're like little reasons

481
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 3: like that where it's like, you know, this Rams team,

482
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: they're just a better team right now when you really

483
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: dive into it, they're actually really bad against pass rush,

484
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: like they're O line has major problems and it's been

485
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: mitigated by Stafford m McVeigh and adding Adams and Pukinakua

486
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: playing out of his mind like there's ways to get

487
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 3: around it. But you saw a little bit in that

488
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 3: Houston game against a good defense, how much they struggled,

489
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: and the Eagles don't aren't going to kick three field

490
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: goals against his Rams defense, which is what Houston did.

491
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 3: So I feel like people overact a little bit to

492
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: this RAMS team and overacting the Eagles struggle on offense

493
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 3: that it's just a complete team there. Their offense is

494
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: behind the page right now. It's very simple and basic.

495
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: But I think this is really about the Eagles defense.

496
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: So this is a great matchup for them, and the

497
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 3: fear of the second corner against Adams or Puka whatever,

498
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: you know, whoever Jackson has to cover for the Eagles.

499
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 3: That could be the major weakness we're overlooking here. But

500
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: I just see so many holes on this offensive line

501
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 3: of this RAMS team that I think the Eagles fronts

502
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: can be able to attack. And yeah, offensively, you know,

503
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 3: we've seen it this RAMS team. They have a good front,

504
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 3: but they cannot stop the run, and that's that's not

505
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 3: improved that much.

506
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: In my opinion. They got lucky.

507
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 3: They faced two teams that just can't run the ball

508
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 3: in the first two weeks. It's gonna be a really

509
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: interesting game. Where are we overacting to this RAMS team?

510
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: Or am I undertelling this Eagles struggles and they're problems

511
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: on offense and is that gonna pop up here in

512
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 3: this game? So I'm really excited for this one because

513
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: it's gonna tell us a lot about these two teams

514
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: early on here.

515
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: Where the Rams.

516
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: Win, they're gonna be looked at as a very fur

517
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: real team right now. Where if they lose and the

518
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: Eagles do win by three or four, whatever it is,

519
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 3: I still think people are gonna have their doubts about

520
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: this Eagles team. So it's an interesting lineup and spot

521
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: for both these teams.

522
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: Well, look, you nail the dilemma here. Are the Eagles

523
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: just a really good team that knows their roster, knows

524
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: their talented and is gonna build and build and build

525
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: as the season goes on a little bit like the

526
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs used to do right when they were at their

527
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: absolute peak, they would just get better and better as

528
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: the season went on. They didn't they didn't sweat any criticism,

529
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: they didn't sweat how they looked when they were winning

530
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: games early in the year. They knew that as the

531
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: season went on, they were just going to get better

532
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: and better. And then you have to ask yourself are

533
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: the Rams? Is there any sort of fraudulent framing for

534
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: the Rams because they beat a Texans OH line that

535
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: isn't that great, they beat a Titan Z line that

536
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: is really bad, and Stafford and Puka and DeVante found

537
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: their rhythm when the Titans started giving the ball away.

538
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: So I have the same questions you do, Like I

539
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: want to be on the Eagles here. I was kind

540
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: of hoping you'd talk me out of it because.

541
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: I want to think that.

542
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 3: Once his number got the three at hard Rock, I

543
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: was like, we have we have to take this.

544
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going to bet the Eagles as soon

545
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: as it gets the three, and it'll get there. You know,

546
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm in Connecticut, obviously. Uh. Here's my question. It's part

547
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: of partly a joke, partly real. What would you set

548
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: the line on the Eagles being called for a penalty

549
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: on a Toush push because they will be like too

550
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: much attention, too many calls from McVeigh to the home office,

551
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: too much film going around about their false starts, and

552
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: you know, whatever they're doing on the Toushbush, there's going

553
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: to be a penalty called on the Toush Bush.

554
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: The real question is will be called on the third

555
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: and one or on a fourth and one?

556
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: Right, And I'm like saying it jokingly, but I think

557
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: there's potential impact here. Will it be called on a

558
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: fourth and one at the goal line? And does that

559
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: take points off the board? And that has an impact

560
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: on the spread and a short in when the numbers

561
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: so short. So I don't know how much I should

562
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: be thinking about that.

563
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: Well, both sides are being very petty.

564
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 3: Apparently the eaglesen in film of basically the Chiefs is

565
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: lining up in the neutral zone like the entire time

566
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 3: they did it. It's like all their heads and fingers

567
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: and hands are in the neutral zone. So I think

568
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 3: it's just both sides are being so petty. I don't

569
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: know the NFL. Maybe they'll just let it be as

570
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: it is and just be like, if this is totally

571
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 3: on you guys for not building this play out and

572
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: we'll deal.

573
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: With it in the off season. So I'm with you.

574
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: It's this is definitely it feels like the highest level

575
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 3: of hate that this touch bush has had from people

576
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: ex referees and people in major positions of the NFL.

577
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's pretty interesting to see what you're saying

578
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: is true, where it's like, are they gonna call it

579
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: on a third and one or will be fourth and

580
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: one of the fourth and just totally kill what Chad

581
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 3: saying this bet we're making. But yeah, it's uh, it's

582
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: it's gonna interesting what these refs do this week.

583
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: It's actually a great prop market that somebody should be creating.

584
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: Like minus one thousand a penalty gets called, then maybe

585
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: minus seven hundred to get called on third and one,

586
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: minus five hundred, it's called on fourth and one. Minus

587
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: three hundred, it's called on third and one the goal line.

588
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: Minus two hundred, it's called on fourth and one at

589
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: the goal line. How many points will the what's the

590
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: over under on how many points the Eagles will lose

591
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: out on because of penalties called in the Toush push.

592
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: You could create an entightly new derivative market on Eagle

593
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: Toush push props.

594
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: One Gan Herd stat here, that's just mind blowing.

595
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: When he plays against a team above five hundred and

596
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: he's a favorite at home, he is seventeen to noer

597
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: in his last seventeen games straight up in this exact spot.

598
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: So now that it's at three, I'm just say, it's

599
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: it's how can you I bet the minus three in

600
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: the Eagles?

601
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: Of course that's kind of stat It's just it might

602
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: be ugly. He might win it close, but he just

603
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: tends to ones these exact games, as.

604
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: He said to Chris Jones, Right, yeah, uh, Indy got

605
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: up to four and a half on the road at

606
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: Tennessee at hard rockets back down to three and a half.

607
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Uh wow, Yeah, I gotta tell you, are we feeling

608
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: regretful because we were pretty high on the Colts on Tuesday?

609
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: And did we were we too excited about what we

610
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: have seen? And did we make a mistake?

611
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm happy we got the three.

612
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: I think that's what our excitement was the fact that, Yeah,

613
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: that's why I love.

614
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: Our Sunday night show.

615
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: It's we're literally doing live lines after an insane week

616
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: of football, and that's usually the first or second time

617
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: me and Chat are even seeing these live lines because they're.

618
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: Coming out live while we're on the show. To me,

619
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: that's what we were exciting about. Right.

620
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: A good initial read, and if you did take the

621
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: MIAs three and a half depends what stay you live in.

622
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: That's not that terrible read either. Because most books are

623
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: still four and a half on this line. So to me,

624
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: the reason you're hesitant about it is it's it's been Yeah,

625
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: it's just so public, right, Like this is when we

626
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: know all the trends everything else was going to point

627
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: to this Tennessee team And like I gave that crazy

628
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: stat since twenty eleven, whin the winless teams in week

629
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: three they are a divisional dog with the totals less

630
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: than forty five.

631
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: Thirteen to zero, Tennessee's in there. Tennessee literally fits that trend.

632
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: So it's a historica a nice spot for this team

633
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: in week three that you know they tend to bounce back,

634
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: But when you look at the underlying issues, Chad, that's

635
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: why I can't get over it with this Tennessee team

636
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: is they cannot stop the run. And Taylor, as great

637
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 3: as Daniel Jones's looked, he has, Taylor has been the

638
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: biggest life force bringing like birth into this Colts team.

639
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: Of yeah, he's got a pass the game now, there's

640
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: not a safety down in the box. He's running against

641
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: a normal front. You've seen him explode at that backfield

642
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: and the way they're using warrant all this stuff on

643
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: their offense. It's like, I can see it carrying.

644
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: The books are basically setting this line being like show us,

645
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: because we've seen this time and time again. Time you

646
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: start two and zero really hot, look incredible, and then

647
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: falter against a team that hasn't looked that great in

648
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: week three.

649
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: Right, that's just football, like football being really good three

650
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: four weeks in a row. Yes, that's normal for a

651
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: Josh Allen Lamar. The list might stop right there. Maybe

652
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: you could say Mahomes like when he had the weapons,

653
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: but just quarterbacks to be consistent three four weeks straight,

654
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: that's what that's It just doesn't happen, that's what. That's

655
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: the difference between these great quarterbacks and ones that are bad.

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Speaker 3: And that's this number is basically saying that the Daniel Jones,

657
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Speaker 3: it's like show So the books professionals, you like, they're

658
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Speaker 3: going to be coming in on that Tennessee side because

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Speaker 3: it is a great spot, a great number, and sure

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Speaker 3: Colts are gonna win. They're not gonna win by more

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Speaker 3: than a field goal, is what the books are saying here.

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Speaker 3: So I do find this number fascinating. When it moved

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Speaker 3: on the four and a half that made sense to me,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it's come back down. Like to me,

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Speaker 3: four and a half. The professionals would bet it, but

666
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Speaker 3: you just keep it there the four and a half.

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Speaker 3: The book, we're still going to take the Colts of four.

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Speaker 2: And a half.

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Speaker 3: So pretty interesting. The hard Rock and a couple other

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Speaker 3: books have moved it back to three and a half.

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Speaker 3: That's that's really respecting money that's moved it down because

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Speaker 3: it's this is early in the week, still Thursday here,

673
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: Like this is like when they win all their bills, teasers,

674
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Speaker 3: whatever they're doing tonight, all that money's gonna come back

675
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Speaker 3: in on this Colt side. So it could go back up,

676
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Speaker 3: but if you want the Colts number, I would be

677
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: shocked to ever see it get back to three.

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Speaker 2: I think mines three and a half right now is

679
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Speaker 2: los it gets well.

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Speaker 1: You just said it's really interesting about the Titans. There's

681
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: times to bet the dogs in the division in a

682
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: spot almost blindly. We're doing it a little bit with

683
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Speaker 1: the Texans. We're going to talk about the Broncos too.

684
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Speaker 1: With the Titans. What's giving me hesitancy and we talked

685
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Speaker 1: about this on Tuesday, was Jonathan Taylor against this defensive

686
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Speaker 1: line and this defense overall that is giving up a

687
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Speaker 1: league worst five point four yards per carry. Shane Steikeen

688
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: is calling good plays right now and understanding how to

689
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Speaker 1: keep Daniel Jones within the framework of his comfort zone.

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Speaker 1: Part of that is just giving the ball to Jonathan

691
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Speaker 1: Taylor at the right time, who's looked amazing. And so

692
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Speaker 1: that to me is what I'm holding. That's the handmail

693
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Speaker 1: on the roller coaster for me right now. Is this

694
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Speaker 1: rushing game against a really bad Titans rushing defense. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like I said, it's just they're just saying

696
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Speaker 3: showing me Daniel Jones because right now he's likely the

697
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Speaker 3: second or third best quarterback in football. Like him against

698
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Speaker 3: the Blitz all that, his numbers are incredible. Him and

699
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: Steichen are just so on line running this offense. So,

700
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 3: like you said, it's it's really interesting. By the book,

701
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 3: they're kind of taking a stand here and the fact

702
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: that this numbers come back down, it's they're feeling pretty confident, clearly.

703
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: But I still I'm still believe in our position. But

704
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Speaker 3: like you said, I don't know if I'm gonna be

705
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Speaker 3: making us force this one in. I'm kind of I

706
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Speaker 3: kind of learned our lesson last week with Dallas that

707
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna try to force in the super super

708
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Speaker 3: chalk favorite of the week exactly.

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Speaker 1: That that's as I'm thinking about our game plan for Sunday.

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711
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Speaker 1: Denver plus two and a half at the Chargers, two

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Speaker 1: a second the other day, but generally just been sitting

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Speaker 1: you were mostly worried that this would be a wise

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Speaker 1: You are very enthusiastic about the Denver Broncos at two

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Speaker 1: and a half. Feels like that's the feedback we've gotten.

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Speaker 1: I've bet the Broncos. I think I got him a

774
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: three for a hot second the other day. I'm kind

775
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: of riding with you on this, like I'm riding the

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Speaker 1: trend and I'm riding.

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Speaker 3: You, Yeah, because it doesn't feel good to be bet

778
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: on Bonnicks right now for being no. Like there's a

779
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: lot of underlying numbers and different things he's doing right

780
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: now that you see defenses have it just to to him.

781
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: But you see the chess match with Sean Bayton, he's

782
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: adjusting back and uh, there's some things he hasn't shown

783
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: either that he's pulled out this year with him and

784
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: that has obviously kept them in the games and they

785
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 3: probably should be two and oh. Like that's the most

786
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: interesting part to me, And I think it's all about expectations, right,

787
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: the Chargers lose their starting tackle, expectations, people immediately move

788
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: them out of the playoffs, really doubted them. They go

789
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: to Brazil, look dominant against the Chiefs team and then

790
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: the Raiders. I mean it wasn't even Herbert's best game, right,

791
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: he kind of faded that second half. I think they

792
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: scored three points, but their defense is so dominant against

793
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: the Raiders. It's all love for this Chargers team. Like

794
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: this is to me what we talked about with the

795
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: peak early in the season. Here, people think they know

796
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 3: these teams. They're, oh my god, this is it. Right,

797
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: Herbert's finding that guy. He's got the confidence, he's got

798
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 3: the coach, he's got the defense, he's got the offensive weapons,

799
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: he's putting it all together. It's September, Like, can we

800
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 3: just take it take.

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00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: A beat here? Like that's what that's why people the

802
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: people are who the.

803
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: Herbert truthers, and they act like someone like me is

804
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: a Herbert hater. Where it's like I've been nothing but

805
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: showing love to this.

806
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: Guy and bet them.

807
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: I love Ben Herbert in a certain spot, but it's

808
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: just too much a reaction to him where it's like

809
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 3: people want to crown him so quick because no one

810
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: doubts the arm talent. We've all seen the talent and

811
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: athletic is like, no one thinks Herbert isn't one of

812
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: the best most highly talented players in the football Our

813
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 3: knock on him as just the closing out of games

814
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: and how he isn't late in the games. And against

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs, you saw that killer like it was incredible

816
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Speaker 3: in that second half. He outplayed Mahomes and was the

817
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: better quarterback in that day. Against the Raiders, you saw

818
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: the fear inconsistent, the bad throwing when there's no run game.

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Speaker 3: There was just nothing there in the second half, Like

820
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: that's why they were so lucky with Geno just having

821
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 3: a meltdown. My view of this Denver team is their

822
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: defense isn't as bad as people think. They just ran

823
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 3: into a juggernaut with that Colts team who they held

824
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: to five field goals, like they only scored two touchdowns.

825
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: Now they did score on every drive, but it's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, Sean paying that defense that's a bender break

827
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Speaker 3: type of defense.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a win any day.

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Speaker 3: If you're having a team that can move the ball,

830
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Speaker 3: but you're holding them to three every time, that's.

831
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Speaker 2: A big deal. And this is just a bad spot.

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00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: Like when I look at it, they are playing a

833
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: Chargers team that was in Brazil, flew back and then

834
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: played another primetime game was at ten o'clock at night

835
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Speaker 3: against the Raiders on a short week, So two weird games,

836
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Speaker 3: short week in this exact spot. Since twenty twenty three,

837
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: teams in this exact spot is playing two prime games.

838
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: Now they're playing another game within six days. That you know,

839
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: isn't that great of a spot. So they're playing the

840
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 3: Chargers playing Denver. Here the Chargers are one and seven

841
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: against the spread in the SAX spot or just teams

842
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 3: in general since twenty twenty three each so it shows teams.

843
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: Do get burned out right. That's why I love those type.

844
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: Of trends where it shows you that early in the year,

845
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 3: here these teams that play multiple primetime games and now

846
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: they're on a short week that has a lot to

847
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: ask And we talked about Denver. This is like the

848
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 3: dream spot. They're zeroing too against the spread. Everyone's left

849
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: them for dead, like people that were hyping them up.

850
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: They're just burned. They're mad.

851
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: No one's gonna betting them. That's why I like, I

852
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: was hoping we'd get three and a half three on

853
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: their show because I'm like, oh my god, I love

854
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: it. It was going up to three. I think as soon

855
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: as we got done our show, I talked a little

856
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: bit about that.

857
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, yeah, this the vibes are just so

858
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: after the Chargers, where we know what we're doing here, right,

859
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: this is another spot we might be stepping in it.

860
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: But it's like all the signals are flashing here in

861
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: this week three, all the trends pointing to this Broncos team,

862
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: and then just going on field, their D line. I mean,

863
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: the Raiders have a really good D line too, Like

864
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: they obviously dominated the run. I think you're gonna see

865
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: the same thing here, like this is gonna be a

866
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: really great front for this Denver team that they got

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Speaker 3: embarrassed likely last week against this Colts. I don't think

868
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: you see that again this week. So you've seen it

869
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: time and time again that this is tends to be

870
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: a good spot for these divisional teams. Like we talked

871
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: about that trend earlier, and you see just the a

872
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: reaction for the public where this probably should be closer

873
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: to one to a pick, but it's allay up to

874
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: two and a half three and a lot of books

875
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: and that's that's crossing two key numbers.

876
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: So very confident this number.

877
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: In just a long another time, we talked about these spots,

878
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: these early in the year week three trends. They all

879
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: point to this Denver team, but just on the field

880
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: stuff that you want to see in love, Chad, I

881
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: think that really sparks here with this Denver team, this

882
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: matchup that it's gonna be close, it's gonna be ugly.

883
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: But I do think this is peak overrating of this

884
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: Chargers team. And two weeks in this is bilo as

885
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: you can get on this Denver team. Just everyone's off

886
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: of them. And just look on the splits up turn.

887
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: You've seen it. It's just all Chargers money. Yeah, and

888
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 2: tickets as well.

889
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I feel pretty good about this one.

890
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: This this feels like it's as much of a lock

891
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: as we can have for making it into the contest.

892
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: And I don't even say sorry, this is the third

893
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 3: straight divisional game, which I know people are like, why

894
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: does that matter. I think it's a big deal because

895
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: those divisional games are so intense because these teams know

896
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: how much these matter in December, like these games September. Sure,

897
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: you can say they don't matter, it's out of division.

898
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: In division, it is such a big deal. And the

899
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: data backs up as well that teams when they play.

900
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: In the last twenty years, teams have played three straight

901
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: divisional games. They're one in six against the spread of

902
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: the exact spot, two and five straight up and they're

903
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 3: filling it cover by ten points in this exact spot.

904
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: You come on, you just sounded so filly when you

905
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: were Your accent was like and it made it reminded me.

906
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: There's a new show on I think HBO called Task

907
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: is by the same yeah people, dude, it's the same

908
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: people who did Mayor of Eastown. So my wife and

909
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: I watched it last night and the accents are not

910
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: to be trifled with. They're so so good. But we

911
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: also before we watched the show, we had to watch

912
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: the SNL Murdered Order sketch where they're making fun of

913
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: Mayor of Eastown. It's so brilliant it's just so it

914
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: just puts you in such a good mirrood. But that

915
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: accent almost becomes impossible to not laugh at because it's

916
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: so specific, and you just sounded like you were in

917
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: murdered dirder Land. Listen, Dallas at Chicago Chicago on Tuesday

918
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: was a one and a half point favorite. Now at

919
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: hard Rock they are one point dogs, other places one

920
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: and a half. You chastised me for not choosing the

921
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: Bears on Tuesday, and I'm glad I waited. Brother, this

922
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: is how much better is hate Caleb Williams. Maybe they

923
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: maybe they hate the Bears defense. You know, the Bears

924
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: are dogs. The world is against my hometown of Chicago.

925
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: It's time to make the Chicago Bears our brass bars

926
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: better of the week. Look, I'm trying to be reasonable

927
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: about this. I've I've sent all the charts about how

928
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: Caleb is, you know, identical to Josh Williams and his

929
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: stats through these number of games, to my buddies, to

930
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: my son. I've ignored the charts this to yourself. Listen,

931
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: I've ignored the charts that say he's also identical to

932
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: miss Trubisky through this number of games in his career.

933
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: I just don't really get why the number has moved

934
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: so much for the Cowboys, who basically allowed Russell Wilson

935
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: to have the greatest game of his career. That that's

936
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: what I'm betting on. It's more than Caleb bounced back

937
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: or anything else. It's the number move too far. Give

938
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: me the team that's the dog on the move across

939
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: the across zero.

940
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's gonna be the reason pros love Dak.

941
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: Here is going to be what's something you hate?

942
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: Jack because of the trends and all the old data

943
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 3: and like you basically die into the numbers. This this

944
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: is not the best spot for this Bears team.

945
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: And that's why I think this is our big balls

946
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 2: better the week. Yep, because it's our brass balls, because

947
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: it's it's.

948
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: Just because when you get kicked in the dick, you

949
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: gotta have brass balls otherwise it's gonna hurt.

950
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 2: And it's just a game. I knew.

951
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: I knew we're gonna love it, coming in like them

952
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: as a favorite obviously a dog. Now I can't avoid it. Now,

953
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: it's like I have to love this one. And yep,

954
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: it's really the fear here what we're betting into. Is

955
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 3: what Chad talked on Caleb Williams versus Deck. At the

956
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: end of the day, that's what this game is. That's

957
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 3: why people that are not gonna QB's be in the

958
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: mile wins stat and ah.

959
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: There's all these other pieces.

960
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: No, this is the exact reason when's your QB's stat

961
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: because both these teams are not good. Like defensively, there's

962
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: there's weaknesses both sides. Offensively, we've seen that when these

963
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: quarterbacks can get it together in their systems, they have

964
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 3: weapons like there is there is high upside offensively. It's

965
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 3: the defenses that give us pause. But I think Bears defense,

966
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 3: I know it's crazy.

967
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: I think they are better than this Dallas defense, and

968
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: especially with the injuries Dallas sat in.

969
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: The Dak stuff is what I think. Anyone out there,

970
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: I'll give you the Dak side of this. Why if

971
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: you do want to avoid this game, totally understand this

972
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: is what Dak does.

973
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: Dak does great against bad teams.

974
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: Right in his career, he's thirty thirty nine and twelve

975
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: straight up seventy seven percent first teams under five hundred.

976
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 3: So this is tankfully a Dak spot. He's playing against

977
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: a bad team under five hundred, and you know when

978
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: those teams have just lost by more than nine points. Chad,

979
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: He's twenty four and six straight up in fourteen and

980
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: three since twenty twenty in this exact spot. So he

981
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: beats up on bad defenses. Which that's what that's stat

982
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 3: tells me. Like teams that are bad defenses, he beats

983
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: them up. Caleb stats are terrifying too, and one PM

984
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: starts in his career, Chad, I'm sure you've seen this.

985
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: I've seen tons of Barris fans posting it.

986
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: In his career, he is zero for seven, losing by

987
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: eleven points per game in this exact spot. So we

988
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: are going against all of that because our view of

989
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: business numbers moved too much. They were, I believe minus

990
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: three on the look ahead, and.

991
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 2: Now it's shifted.

992
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 3: Like Chad said, there's books out there plus one and

993
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: a half. So it shifted four and a half points.

994
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: It's crazy, crazy, So we're we're betting on that.

995
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 3: We're betting on the overreaction. The lines moved too much.

996
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: Hard Rock is plus one. Go get the one and

997
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: a half, get the hook, because I could easily see

998
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: Bears up to with thirty seconds left and outdoors. Somehow

999
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: with the win, it is back the kicker for Dallas

1000
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: kicks off the seventy yarder and it's just, you know,

1001
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: Aubrey is the optimate weapon, like when I think of

1002
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: special teams, guys, So we need that one and a

1003
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: half because when it moved to that, I go, oh

1004
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 3: my god, the books are telling us something six about

1005
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: the half in here, because honestly, as a favorite, calybse amazing.

1006
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: The trends will love him as a favorite in six spot.

1007
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 3: The issue is the numbers flipped, and I think it's

1008
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 3: gonna stay flipped. Like the pros have come in now

1009
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: on Dallas as a dog, I don't think it gets

1010
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: back to that. So that's why we're making it our

1011
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 3: basketball as we're literally going against the proser and the public.

1012
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: We're we're just back in the books here.

1013
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 3: This is really very few pros are on the side,

1014
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: and this is a game where I love it for

1015
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: all the wrong reasons.

1016
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 2: I maybe be a little too overrated on Caleb.

1017
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 3: I just think the public is just so overracked into

1018
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 3: this Bears team and they just walked into a bussau

1019
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: last week where Dallas they felt like they used up

1020
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 3: nine of their lives last week, like they're just coming

1021
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: off and insane when you expect to let down. But

1022
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 3: I hated all these trends that support DAK first bad

1023
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 3: teams chat and I.

1024
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: Know, I mean, you don't want to say it, but

1025
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 2: I think we both know the Bears they're a bad team.

1026
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: Simon, there is so much hate for Caleb Williams right now.

1027
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: It almost feels irrational, right the talk about benching him.

1028
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: To talk about almost inaccuracies, the level of denigration happening

1029
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: for Caleb Williams nationally A. I know, it's clearly something

1030
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: that everyone's engaging with, right Otherwise the big shows wouldn't

1031
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: be doing it. It wouldn't be the topic of conversation

1032
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: across every media outlet unless producers saw some kind of spike.

1033
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: When we're talking about bashing Kleb Williams, I don't love

1034
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: this spot for Kayleb Williams. I'm actually just betting the

1035
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: number like it moved too much. I'm getting a point

1036
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: and a half for a team that, like you just said,

1037
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: had been a field goal favorite in the look aheadlines,

1038
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: which weren't that long ago. So like great give me

1039
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: a four and a half point swaying, give me the

1040
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: underdog one and a half Kent City Chiefs at New

1041
00:51:55,120 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: York Giants. You said at the beginning of the show, wise, guys,

1042
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: don't like this, don't like this play. I bet the

1043
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: Chiefs minus five and a half after say the Packers

1044
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: and maybe the Colts. It could be the chalkiest play

1045
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: of the week, like obviously not sharp. Whatever sort of

1046
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: love the pros have for the Giants has been outweighed

1047
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: here by the market love for the Chiefs, because the

1048
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: number has moved in their direction. At six at hard

1049
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: Rock right now, I gotta stick with it. I've already

1050
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: put my money down, not buying out.

1051
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah for Sharper square the Stars. Square bet of the week,

1052
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: no doubt about it, this chief side.

1053
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: And do you think it's more square than the Colts.

1054
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 3: No, because again we gave it out a minus three.

1055
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: We're not making you take the minus three and a

1056
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: half at the Chiefs a minus five and a half,

1057
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: which is still out there, Like I just said it,

1058
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: a couple of very public books you must grab and

1059
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 3: you must join us in this brutal, brutal loss we're

1060
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: about to suffer. But I just see same thing with

1061
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 3: you know, Dallas last week, like we had no chance

1062
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 3: of that six, but we did. And it feels the

1063
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: same here as Chiefs, where I just there's gonna be

1064
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 3: one or two players that dictates this spread. At the

1065
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: end of the day. We always know that that's football,

1066
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: but this also will easily be Chiefs role blowout. And

1067
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 3: our fear here is that it's like Pros I've talked

1068
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: to is that they just don't have the guns right.

1069
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 3: They don't have the guys on the outside the Chiefs

1070
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: team that really blow out and roll these teams. And

1071
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: that's the paws, the hesitation with the number and the

1072
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 3: six and a half, that's the sharp side. You want

1073
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: to pick a side, you have no dog in this fight.

1074
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: Yet I am with Chad. I'm a supportive friend. I

1075
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: will back them because I don't forget it. I bet

1076
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: the five and a half on the Chiefs. But the

1077
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: sharp side of the professional side, they're going to be

1078
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: on the Giants of six and a half, just because

1079
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: that's a big number.

1080
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: It's the Sunday night.

1081
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: Game, all the parlays, all the teasers, everything is going

1082
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 3: to be tied to this Chiefs team. There is no

1083
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: world this Chiefs team goes over three. Maybe me and

1084
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: Chat will have them our survivor. The apisolute killer of killers,

1085
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: this Chiefs team. But yes, it's it's it's a unique spot.

1086
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: And if we weren't in the Year of Chalk these

1087
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: last couple of years where it's just the favorites just

1088
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: always win.

1089
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 3: They might not cover, but they always win. Okay, the

1090
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 3: Chiefs will win this one.

1091
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: But you know, even five years ago, this was the

1092
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: trap of all traps, this Chiefs team, just because five.

1093
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: Years ago, we're not even having five years ago.

1094
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Giants' auto play.

1095
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: Five years ago, it's okay, Giants.

1096
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: Next, right, that's it.

1097
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: So it's trying to adjust with the times here and

1098
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 3: on this number, it's it's pretty glaring how how much

1099
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 3: money is coming to the Chiefs team, because the same

1100
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: thoughts we had Sunday night, it's just in what world.

1101
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: Are the Chiefs going over three?

1102
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 3: Especially against this Kansas City team that you saw in

1103
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: the Week one. If they play against a good defense,

1104
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 3: they're going to struggle offensive. Russell Wilson will not be

1105
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 3: throwing those fifty to fifty balls.

1106
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, neighbors, he's the ultimate cheek good. So I

1107
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: get it.

1108
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 3: But this the five and a half, it is still

1109
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 3: out there. I would still grab on this Chiefs team.

1110
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: I still believe in that number in this side for

1111
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: this Chief side.

1112
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh. You know. Andrew Thomas, by the way,

1113
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,959
Speaker 1: we thought he was sort of the key to why

1114
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we like the Cowboys so much.

1115
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: Last year, he's been active but limited in practice this week,

1116
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: didn't play last week. It's a it's a big deal, right,

1117
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: So I don't love it. I don't love it. I

1118
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: don't love it as much as I did the other

1119
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: day when I said I loved it. I'm getting a

1120
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: little skittish. I like, I'm already annoyed that I'm gonna

1121
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: have to stay up late on Sunday night to watch it.

1122
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm so tired at the end of Sundays, Like, I don't.

1123
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,479
Speaker 2: Know this one. You have to watch the end because

1124
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: there's no way this chief seemed to be rolling by

1125
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 2: like twenty five in this.

1126
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: Right right exactly like it's gonna but it's gonna matter

1127
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: and I can already see it, you know. So this

1128
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: is what the Chiefs do. They're up four with four

1129
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: minutes left and they go into their four minute drill

1130
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: and you know, they take it down to forty five seconds,

1131
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: punt the ball the Giants have, you know, have to

1132
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: score the touchdown. Nothing either nothing happens or there's a turnover,

1133
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs just follow because they're well coached, and

1134
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, ends up being four that if that happens,

1135
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: if that happens on Tuesday show, someone should send me

1136
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: my flowers because I just nailed how we're going to

1137
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: lose this game quickly. I want to talk about Detroit

1138
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: to Baltimore only because we liked it at five and

1139
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: a half on Tuesday, it's at four and a half

1140
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: at hard Rock. It's trending down significantly, a lot of public,

1141
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: a lot of sharp money coming in on the Lions.

1142
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: I feel good about the bet that we made at

1143
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: five and a half and that I don't really have

1144
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: much more to say about that. If you have thoughts,

1145
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: if you feel like it needs to be in the contest,

1146
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: the number moving has has sort of changed it for

1147
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: me in terms of this conversation.

1148
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 3: I just have other games I love more this week

1149
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 3: that I've really jumped out and have better line value

1150
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: and my confidence honestly, in the lines bet was just

1151
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: really about the line at some point, you know, especially

1152
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: if the steps to four, I would probably be be

1153
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: on this Ravens team, where you know, I still have

1154
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: questions about that lines. I know, as great as they

1155
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: looked against the Bears, I do have questions. My my,

1156
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 3: My big thing though, is the reason I'm not signing

1157
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 3: the table with this Ravens team is can the Ravens

1158
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: exploit that offensive line of Detroit lines? I don't know

1159
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: if they have the guys up front that can really

1160
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: do that. So I like that you brought this game

1161
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: up because the line has moved so much. But yeah,

1162
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: for me, I just there's no scenario I see us

1163
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: really break this one down Sunday putting in our contest.

1164
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: I just I compared to other games, this game is

1165
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: not even on the board really for me?

1166
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: How much I bet compared to other games.

1167
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: Well, that's a good transition. What's your biggest bet?

1168
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, this week's a little weird.

1169
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: Like I always talk, some weeks, I'll have like two

1170
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: or three games I really lock in on. I'm honestly chatt,

1171
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: I'm at like six or seven games.

1172
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: I've like that pretty heavy into and it's like we

1173
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: talked about it's it's scary because it's just all these

1174
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: ugly dogs and like even this tonight, I somehow ended

1175
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: up on this Miami side. I don't know what happened.

1176
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 3: It's like how do I I found like five different

1177
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: tickets to me bet in Miami at twelve and a

1178
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 3: half and twelve, and it's like what am I doing?

1179
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: Why am I betting? Why am I doing this?

1180
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: And like it's just there's so many dogs this week

1181
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: that it's they're undervalued and the numbers just move too much.

1182
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, for this week right now, my biggest bets,

1183
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 3: I'll start with the grossest one.

1184
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: No one's gonna bet it, but Panthers.

1185
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: I gotta do it at five and a half six

1186
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 3: if you can find it.

1187
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: It's just too much.

1188
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 3: And for me, I've just been betting too much on

1189
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: it where I can't stop betting the Panthers.

1190
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: I just I don't know.

1191
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: I just can't get over this. This Falcons team just

1192
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 3: not I just think they're overrated. I think Penic's overrated.

1193
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: So I'm definite gona eat these words. This Panthers team

1194
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: is not good. They're banged up well another game. I'm

1195
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: not gonna make us force into our contest because there's

1196
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 3: just other games that I bet way bigger on that.

1197
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 3: I like more Texans is number one, Broncos number two.

1198
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 3: We talked about the Browns. You can still find there's

1199
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: one book out there and a half.

1200
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: Ben att pretty heavy.

1201
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 3: When we get off this call, literally going right down

1202
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 3: to AC might even go to the hard rock and

1203
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 3: get that Egos minus three, So that might not be

1204
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 3: another really big bet for me.

1205
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: And I bought out of.

1206
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 3: Two positions pretty heavily. H I was on forty nine ers.

1207
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 3: I bought out of that. I'm on the Cardinals. The

1208
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 3: Cardinals are up to like plus three. A couple of books,

1209
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: you know, hard rock here is in Jersey's got plus

1210
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: two and a half plus two, plus two, and uh,

1211
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: it keeps bouncing around. I think it's gonna go up

1212
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 3: to plus three if Party does get cleared.

1213
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: I just I like that number.

1214
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: I know the injuries they have to their secondary and

1215
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 3: have bank upbur but I just doesn't feel like Party

1216
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 3: is rushing back a little bit here and it's like, yeah,

1217
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 3: it's he's gonna be hotble, not his full self and

1218
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 3: he needs his mobility. So that line jumped out to

1219
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 3: me just before we go, and another one we didn't

1220
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: really talk about that I bet pretty heavy into is

1221
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 3: the Saints seven and a half. I really like it.

1222
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 3: I've tempered back my betting on it just because I

1223
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 3: think we might have to have silks in our survivor pool.

1224
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 3: Like we'll talk about it here after this. But I

1225
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 3: know it sounds stupid tempered back bets, but I hate

1226
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 3: being on both sides and you know, rooting against myself

1227
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 3: while trying to cover the spread.

1228
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: So I do like the Saints.

1229
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: Still, people are gonna ask why we didn't really have

1230
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 3: that one forced in when it comes to the big dogs.

1231
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 3: I feel more comfortable taking the Browns at their number,

1232
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: so it's like chop around.

1233
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: I just my my bet on the Saints really is

1234
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: about the number.

1235
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: BI.

1236
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: I have no confidence in Spencer Rouler.

1237
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've gone back and watched him

1238
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 3: for all the goodie flashed and there are won a game.

1239
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 3: He just it was totally gone last week. There's just

1240
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: something he's just so bad. I don't think he's ever

1241
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: won a game, right, is.

1242
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: Right?

1243
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, well we can get to survivor there's just

1244
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 3: there's so many options this week Survivor, and it's it's

1245
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: making my head spin.

1246
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: I don't know about you.

1247
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: Uh it is. We're going to get the survivor in

1248
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: a second. We've got to do our round robin underdog

1249
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: money line run round robin underdog parlay, uh Texans, Denver, Chicago.

1250
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: We got to put someone a little bit longer in there.

1251
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: But I'm not loving the Browns.

1252
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: Can Can I get you on the Panthers?

1253
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? I can do the Panther's no problem.

1254
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: Because there let me check what their live number is

1255
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: plus two hundred. That's that's that's good value.

1256
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: Then we need one more.

1257
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: Honestly want coming into the show.

1258
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 3: I wanted to do the Rams after seeing that stat

1259
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,919
Speaker 3: by about Hurts in the sex spot.

1260
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: I couldn't get there. Should we just do it?

1261
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 3: Should we keep riding the Bengals train your your love?

1262
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 3: Like that's what was a weird game?

1263
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about the Bengals. No, I actually feel

1264
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: great about the Bengals.

1265
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: I'm on the Vikings, but I have no read on

1266
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: this game.

1267
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: I just feel like the Vikings. You're probably right, you know,

1268
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: they've got so many injuries. I know forget about Carson Wentz.

1269
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: And you know, is Kevin O'Connell a quarterback whisper? Who knows?

1270
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: But Jake Browning might be awful though like he I know,

1271
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 2: he had good throws, and.

1272
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: Jake Browning might be awful. Jake Browning also has the

1273
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: confidence of this team. And at the end of the day,

1274
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, He's thrown in Jamar Chase, and Jamar

1275
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: Chase looks even the worst quarterback look decent, that's true.

1276
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: And he can overcome turnovers because he's got Jamar Chase.

1277
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: So we're not going to do anything with it. But yeah,

1278
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: let's put the Bengals.

1279
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's throw them in.

1280
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: What about our money line round robin.

1281
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 2: Moneymaker the favorite? Yes, so let's let's get Chalky. Well,

1282
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: let's go Colts. All right, they might not cover, they're

1283
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 2: winning that game. We believe in Danny Jones, Indiana Jones

1284
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 2: and that Colts team Chiefs, Chiefs Eagles. So that's three

1285
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: right there? What are the bucks?

1286
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: Box are seven? I don't mind the bucks there.

1287
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: Minus three to sixty, that's yeah, it's not terrible.

1288
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: What about we got Colts Chiefs Eagles.

1289
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: One more bucks?

1290
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: I mean We're just trying to be safe and win

1291
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 3: people money. I just see HOWKX don't lose that game.

1292
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 3: Sam Donald's not losing to the Saints in that spot.

1293
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: I was thinking Seahawks or Packers, So let's go with

1294
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks survivor. I agree with you about Seattle. I want

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Speaker 1: to do the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Like the thing is, though it.

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Speaker 1: Feels like, oh my god, that could be a prime

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Speaker 1: time fiasco.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and it's the difference is, even if the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: don't have good matchups later in the year, which they don't, honestly,

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Speaker 3: at least we're getting, we expect a healthy Chiefs offense

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01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: at that point that will be in some type of rhythm.

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01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: Same with their defense. Where the Seahawks, I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: either schedule put up right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know they're easy game we take them again,

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Speaker 3: like they're at Tennessee on November twenty third, do.

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Speaker 2: We expect that to be a good spot for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the Seahawks defense against a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good match.

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Speaker 3: That's another game I could really find for them that

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Speaker 3: Like the rest of their schedule, they're at Carolina and

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Speaker 3: the twenty eighth of December, like they have a couple

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Speaker 3: of really late ones. But to me, this is the

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Speaker 3: best opportune time for the Seahawks team.

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Speaker 2: Everyone.

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Speaker 3: They're all, they're healthy, their defense is, you know, playing

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Speaker 3: really well, especially the start of the season these last

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Speaker 3: two weeks, and we've seen the Saints team the weaknesses.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, those those two jumped down. I know.

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Speaker 3: We got a lot of questions about the bills, right,

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01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 3: A lot of people are taking the bills tonight. I

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01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: don't hate it, I get it, right. I think Josh Allen,

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01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 3: what is he some crazy stat? Is he eight and

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Speaker 3: oh or seven and one against uh Tua.

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01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: In his career? Yeah, he's never lost to him at home,

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Speaker 2: So that's fair.

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01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 3: Like, that's a fair time to use the bills. I

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01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 3: just I feel like we could save the bills for

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Speaker 3: later in the season. And like I'm just I don't

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01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 3: know one else again, I would use the Seahawks again.

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01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: So it's up to you, brother, if you if you

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01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 3: want to go Seahawks, that's that's what I prefer. If you,

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Speaker 3: if you want to go the other way and go Chiefs,

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01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 3: I get it, because again I don't if you have

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Speaker 3: the schedule up for the Chiefs. I'm trying to find

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Speaker 3: when we play them again late in the year. They're

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01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 3: at Dallas and you know what's that November twenty seventh,

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01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 3: they're at Tennessee the twenty first look.

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Speaker 1: Part of part of my calculus here is I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't expect this thing to go into December. Like

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, most of these things don't last that long.

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Speaker 2: That's what you remember one as someone who's won them.

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01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: You've got to do this. We were taking a long

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01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: term baby. We're gonna win this thing. Chad don't have

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01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: doubt yet.

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01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. I don't have doubt. I'm just saying,

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01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: like I'm not ahead. I'm not that worried about saving

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01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: for I'm not worried about saving for weeks sixteen or seventeen.

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01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: We're getting in December, like I want to save for

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01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: week thirteen, week fourteen, which.

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Speaker 3: Is around a lot of games that you all like,

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01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: you have to you have to try to. That's why

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01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: I have to read out which one to take here.

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01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 3: Because we like all I mean I think we all

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01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 3: like three of these are. We like the Bills, we

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01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 3: like Total Chefs like, we like the Seahawks. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'll leave it up to you whatever one you want

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Speaker 3: to go, because you let me.

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Speaker 1: Let's go with Seattle. Let's do Seattle Seahawks, all right?

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01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: Sharp versus square? This is not a good run for

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Speaker 1: me right now? Who would you like to take?

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Speaker 3: Oh God, I can't double down. I honestly would probably

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01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 3: go Denver again. I just feel like that's such a

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01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 3: sharp side. I'm gonna go the other sharp side in

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01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 3: my opinion, Texans, all right? Plus one and a half

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01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 3: or plus one wherever hard rock is?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Man, I don't know if I should be on

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Speaker 1: the Browns or do I want the Eagles at the

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Speaker 1: minus three.

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Speaker 2: That's a nice number at hard rock as as something

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01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 2: that's terrified of your picks. I do want you to

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Speaker 2: stay away from my Eagles and the trouper square segment.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie I am do. Yeah, I'm taking

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01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: the Eagle. I've wanted to be on the Eagles all week.

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Speaker 1: If this is the best I'm gonna get for minus three,

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01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Eagles minus three. Let me quickly round

1377
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: up what we're what we're pinpointing for Sunday. Make sure

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01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: we're on the same page for that conversation. I think

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01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to have a conversation about the Browns

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: just based on the number of games that we have

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01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: that we're both sort of aligning on. The Browns, the Texans,

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01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: the Eagles, Denver. Those feel like four that we we're

1383
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 1: locking in on, and then it's the Colts, it's the Bears,

1384
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: and that's kind of it. It feels like we've narrowed

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01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: it down to six. So we're gonna have to choose

1386
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: a final one. Am I missing anyone?

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01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Patriots, We'll see how we feel.

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01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right.

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01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 3: Again, I'm the books all weekend. I'll have a stronger

1390
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 3: opinion about it. But like right now, I'm I'm really

1391
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 3: dugging on those spots. I'm hoping I can talk to

1392
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 3: people that talk me off some of these lines because

1393
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like this is a really good week.

1394
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 3: I love some of these games, and I guess the

1395
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 3: general public that's terrifying. As someone like me, It's like,

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01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 3: this is really exciting. These are you look for these weeks,

1397
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 3: these opportunities, and yeah, I just it's the best, right

1398
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 3: that we all overreact so much the first two weeks

1399
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 3: and all the numbers coming out. And that's why I

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Speaker 3: love beting football. It's it's the more you know, the

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01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 3: less you know.

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01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 2: That's the best part about we do here.

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