1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Kristin Horner, the team principal for Red Bull Racing. Christian, 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: wonderful to catch up with you, sir. Going into race 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: weekend in Silverston. Can we start there? As my colleague 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Tom pointed out, just how special is this race, this 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: circuit for you and the team? 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: Well, look, it's one of the best circuits on the tour. 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: It's fast, it's. 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 3: Demanding, it's source the men out from the boys, it's 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: a big challenge and it's old school. I mean this 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: track goes back to just after the Second World War, 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: so an old airfield with a brims of road converted 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: into a racing circuit that has developed over the years. 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: But it's one of the big tests for the drivers 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: and the teams. 15 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: Max was absolutely dominant last weekend. There was this amazing 16 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: moment at the end of the race, with a couple 17 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: of laps to go, he came in for a pit 18 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: stop just to get the quickest lap. Christin, can you 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: describe the guy that you're working with every single day? 20 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: How special is Max Forstappen? 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: I think what we're witnessing at the moment is a 22 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: sportsman that's just a really at the top of his game, 23 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 2: and you know, he's a joy to work with, and he. 24 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: Continues to surprise us with this the levels that he's 25 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: that he's reaching, and you know, the hype that he's hitting. 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: So yeah, as I say, nothing is, nothing is, he 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: continues just to continue. 28 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: To surprise us at the moment. But he's in the 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: form of his life and I think there's more to come. 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: Christian. I think Americans are fascinated by this. I look 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 4: at the wonderful coverage Sky Sports is doing and basically 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 4: they forget about verstep and five minutes into the race 33 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: to look at all the NETFLIXI sub races and all 34 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 4: that Boloney. We have an America, a guy for the 35 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 4: Los Angeles Angels in baseball named Otani who's once in 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: a generation, is for stapping like that. 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: I think, Look, we're in a healthy period of Formula One. 38 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: We've got Lewis Hamilton, the most successful driver of all 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: time out there. We've got Fernando Alonzo that's doing it 40 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: for the old guys. 41 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: And you know, we've got this emergence of Maxis staff 42 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: and I think only in time or history judge just 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: how good he is. 44 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: But what we're seeing at the moment is certainly something 45 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: pretty special, particularly with the results that he's ratcheting up. 46 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Christian, talk to me about how from a manager's perspective, 47 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: you maintain harmony within the team. When he took that 48 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: point for the quickest lap last weekend, that was taken 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: away from from Checko, his teammate within Red Bull. Christian, 50 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: can you tell me as a manager how you're maintaining 51 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: the harmony when you have to provide the resources for 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: someone who's dominant Max and maintain the confidence of his teammate. 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think he's just dealing with openness and honesty. 54 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: And I think what Max deserved or earned himself the 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: opportunity to have a go at that fastest lab. He 56 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 3: created a pit stop for himself. He was going to 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: have a go at it on the on al tars 58 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 3: and for us who's actually less risk. But I'm on 59 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: to set the newer tars and. 60 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: Take the pit stop. So yeah, he earns himself that right. 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: And I think the relationship between the two guys is 62 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: is strong, and the most important thing is that they 63 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: talk to each other. They communicate. When there's an issue, 64 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: they talk about it, We get it on the table 65 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: and get it addressed. 66 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Can we expect Checkout to be racing for Red Bull 67 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: next year then, Christian, Yeah, he's got a contract. 68 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: He's with us till you know, till the end of 69 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: twenty four so and we're happy out of another contract. 70 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: We're happy with, you know, the overall performance of him. 71 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: He's had some difficult Saturdays recently, but his racing has 72 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: been great and hopefully the confidence from that podium in 73 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: Austria is going to put him, you know, back on 74 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: the pace here on Saturday. 75 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk about someone else on the grid who's unhappy. 76 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: Lewis Hamilton unhappy with the dominance of Red Bull. Unsurprisingly Christian, 77 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: he's had some recommendations on what they can do about that. 78 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: Maybe we can set a time limit for when we 79 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: start to plan for next year's race. Car Christian, what's 80 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: your response to people who were fed up with the 81 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: dominance of your team. 82 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: Well, look, it's flattering in any respects. The sport goes 83 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: in cycles. 84 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: I mean Mercedes, I mean how many years did they 85 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: dominate and nobody got anywhere near seeing them for about 86 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: seven years, So. 87 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: We're we're performing at an incredibly high light. Well, the 88 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: team is doing its job and. 89 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: The others you know will be putting a target on 90 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: us and they'll be trying to catch and I. 91 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: Think with stability of the rules that the field is 92 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: going to converge. It's only a matter of times. 93 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: So and so yeah, I think trying to get everybody 94 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: to start to design their car at you know, a start, 95 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: they would just be impossible to manage and police. 96 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 4: Christian, our producer, are the guy that tells us what 97 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: to do every day. Grew up in Western Australia. So 98 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 4: he says, we're not doing the interview if we don't 99 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 4: talk about your third driver, Daniel Riccardo. I think the 100 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 4: people looking at Daniel Riccardo in America are saying, what 101 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: does this guy do? 102 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: Do you want to. 103 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: Retain a third driver like Daniel Riccardo or is it 104 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: a good feeling for red Bull if he goes off 105 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: to someone else's is. 106 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: Rumored, Well, I gave him that chance because I didn't. 107 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: I thought formal Ones still needed Daniel and I think 108 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: that he's still got more to give. We we know 109 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: how talented he is. He just needs to rediscover his 110 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: form and his and his mojo, which he seems to 111 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: be doing certainly in a virtual world and he's testing 112 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: our car in the real world on Tuesday and Wednesday 113 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: of next week and you know we'll start to see 114 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: where he's at in relation to the race drivers. 115 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: So it'd be great to. 116 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: See Daniel back on the grid next year, even if 117 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: it's not in a repel car. 118 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: Christian a sensitive issue which we see in the danger 119 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: of Formula One and all the safety efforts that are made. 120 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: There have been two really difficult deaths in Formula one, 121 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: including a tragedy recently. I believe in Belgium, what do 122 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: you do day to day, tick by tick to make 123 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: the sports safer? What's the next thing to make it safer? 124 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: Well, I think the FIA do a great job in 125 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: terms of the safety of these cars. 126 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: Is just you know, compared to where they were just 127 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: even a few years ago. 128 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: If you look at Roman Grossan's accident in Bahrain, thing 129 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: that a human could actually survive. 130 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: That is is beyond belief. But you know, you can always. 131 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: Do more, and the FIA are constantly pushing us, you know, 132 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: with the. 133 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: Cars, but also now the circuits. I think they you know, there's. 134 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: Circuits that we need to look at because we can 135 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: only take the car so far. But you know, I 136 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: think still more that we can do as a collective 137 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: with the FIA. 138 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: On certain circuits there. 139 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: Seemed to be I mean I was barefooled last week 140 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: watching every minute of it and and really, you know 141 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: what your team did, and I look at I guess 142 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 4: it's called the stewards where the track isn't working out 143 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: and people are going off the track and there's twelve 144 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 4: hundred violations. I mean, we don't see that in American sport. 145 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: Are we going to see that again at Silverstone where 146 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: the quality of the driving is so good that the 147 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: track doesn't fit the excellence of the drivers? 148 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully not. 149 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: I mean I think that was something that needs to 150 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: be addressed moving forward. I think the problem is is 151 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: anti It was, you know, two corners that are inviting 152 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: the drivers to go out there, and of course they 153 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: can't see the lines. They're driving by feel. And I 154 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 3: think that if there was a piece of gravel strip 155 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: there or you know, something like that, they wouldn't go 156 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: near it. If there was a wall where they certainly 157 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: wouldn't go there. So yeah, I think that there's things 158 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: that can be done. 159 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: To, you know, to improve the situation. 160 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: Hopefully it won't be an issue here, but you've got 161 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: to stay. 162 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: In the lines. 163 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: I do want to finish on safety and the track. Christian. 164 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: There are some worries that maybe we have some protests, 165 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: the climate change protesters that we've seen protest various sports 166 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: in the UK over the last few years. You're concerned 167 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: about that over the weekend. What have your conversations been 168 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: with the FIA over the last couple of days and 169 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: your own drivers going into the weekends with regards to that, Well, look, it. 170 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: Is a big concern because you run on a cricket 171 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: played sure, a tennis court, you know there's only a 172 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: there's only a batler ball out there. You run on 173 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: a Formula one track, you know there's twenty cars going around, 174 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: the speeds are close to two hundred miles an hour, 175 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: and from a safety point of view, it is unimaginable 176 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: or unthinkable that people would put themselves into and the 177 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: drivers at such risk. So I really hope that you know, 178 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: nobody does anything stupid this weekend. You know, Formula one 179 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: is taking sustainability and is pushing that messages and driving 180 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: with fully sustainable fuels that we have coming from twenty 181 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: twenty six We're doing more than any other industry to 182 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: champion that, and I'd be really disappointed to see, you know, 183 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: somebody try. 184 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: And upset what is going to be probably one of the. 185 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: Biggest events sporting events on the British calendar this year. 186 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: Christian. 187 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: I've loved our conversations. We've loved our conversations. Let's continue them. 188 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: Good Luck for the race weekend. As a Ferrari fan, 189 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: you know that I don't quite mean that, but good. 190 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: Luck, oh good luck, I mean it this weekend. 191 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: Christian of Red Bull Racing