1 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. Well, happy New Year, Happy, Happy 2 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: New Year, Brown Ambition Family. 3 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: Yes, I know you guys are probably like, where have 4 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: you guys been? 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: And we're back. 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: It feels like it's been months. But that's only been 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: two weeks. 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: I know, it does feel like it's been a long time. 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: So going into the new year, how for? First of all, 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: how was your How are your holidays? 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: It was good, it was really good. My New Year's 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: was very chill. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: Just spend it at home, Superman and friends and relax. 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: I didn't even usually I do like this whole reflection thing. 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: I didn't. I just watched movies and hung out. 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Reflect sounds exhausting, I know, I. 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: Was like, I don't feel like it. 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: I reflect later, I had some spurts of reflection. I 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: just I did the same thing. I mean, I had 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: a quiet, well not a quiet New Year's, but I 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: had New Year's with friends and then we uh so, 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: one of our friend's mom lives on this really nice 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: little kind of cottage like house on a lake in 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: upstate New York, and we all packed up and went 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: up there for a weekend. And these are some of 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: these friends I've had since I was eighteen, so for 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: a decade. So it's I'm really happy because it's like 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: our one time a couple of times a year we 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: can all meet at this house and like hang out, 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: and we didn't even leave the house at all. We 31 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: just sat and we were like coddled by this friend's 32 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: mother and we just like played games and drank wine 33 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: and watched like stupid TV and more games. It was 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: kind of fun. But I don't know how the hell 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to work tomorrow. 36 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: Oh that's nice, I mean, that's yeah. 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: I took a three hour nap today when I got home, 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is not the mode. I cannot 39 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: be getting into the mode of taking three hour naps 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: at four pm. It cannot happen. 41 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: I was like, that sounds like my life. I'm a napcoholic. 42 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of reflections, Well, let me back up for 43 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: a step. Because you had a huge day to day, yes, 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: which is why you sound depleted. 45 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: Yes, you have no idea. I was so tired. 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: I've been like up all night darna air like twenty 47 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: four hours and then just like napping in between times. 48 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 2: So my body is like, We're not sure what's happening 49 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: right now. 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Let's start off buzzworthy by talking about the huge, the 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: huge launch of the Literature Challenge twenty sixteen. 52 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: Yes, so this is our second year. So last year 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: we had about twenty thousand women sign up. This year 54 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: we just crossed the threshold of sixty thousand women. 55 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: July Baloney for real. 56 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: Oh my god, God, I know, crazy, isn't it. 57 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: Sixty thousand women over seventy countries, all fifty states and 58 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: just managing it all. Like so, for example, Tanya from 59 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: my fab Finance, she created this goal sheet. So the 60 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: challenge is a series of tasks that I send out 61 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: in the beginning of the year to kind of help 62 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: people get on track, and specifically women. And it's free 63 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: and it's cool and it's fun. And so I send 64 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: these tasks to your email inbox and then you do 65 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: the task every day, and you do them within a community, 66 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: a safe, loving, caring community. And so I told Tanya 67 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: because Tanya created this awesome goal sheet for the first 68 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: of the challenge last year, and I was like, oh, 69 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: make another one. 70 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: So she did. 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: And so the women one of their task for today 72 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: was to go to her site and to download this 73 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: goal sheet, which was free and fill it out to 74 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: really dope. 75 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: What Tanya called me was like, so, y'all broke my site. 76 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: No. Meanwhile, it was like eleven am. She was like no, 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: She's like I can't even get on to fix it, 78 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: Like we have to wait. Can you divert the traffic 79 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: and stop sending people this way? That was so fun? 80 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: And I was just like really, she was like yes, 81 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: I mean I'm loving to love, but y'all broke my site. 82 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: It's just a. 83 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: Whole different ballgame now. 84 00:03:59,520 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 85 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: Somebody was like, how does it feel? And I'm like, 86 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: what does feel? Even mean I'm exhausted. 87 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: Well, I mean the challenge is not I mean that 88 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: today is a huge launch, but it goes on for 89 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: what six weeks? 90 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: No, so the challenge is twenty two days, so it 91 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: ends January twenty fifth, but then it automates because I 92 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: want people that have access throughout the year, so at 93 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: any time, like let's just say you're like, oh, I'm 94 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: not ready in January. I kind of want to do 95 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: it in like March or October. You can still sign 96 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: up at Liverericherchallenge dot net and start it at any time, 97 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: but the beginning of the year special because we collectively, 98 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: like everyone the sixty thousand women that have signed up, 99 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: all sixty thousand are receiving the same email every day. 100 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: They get diverted to our. 101 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: Online private Facebook group where all sixty thousand of us 102 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: are kind of like combaying and like. 103 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: Oh did you do this? Did this work for you? 104 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: You know? 105 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: So it's just been great and. 106 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: You're focusing on the savings element that's turn around. 107 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, savings and abundance, like how do you save 108 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: a little bit more and then how do you make 109 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: a little bit more? Because it was like the number 110 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: one thing women ask for. 111 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I'm so proud of you. Congratulations. I know 112 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: you're tired, so let me be the one to be excited. 113 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I had a very relaxing day and I 114 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: have on the outset. 115 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, my my bid man, no, but I'm excited though, 116 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: Like today it like hit me in spurts, like whoa, Tiffany, 117 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: this is crazy And then I was like I need 118 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: a bed, so yeah, and I still have work to do, 119 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: just because when you launch something, you know, there's always 120 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: little things that on the front end people don't see 121 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: things that are going wrong, but on the back end. 122 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, we. 123 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: Sweech your crashing exactly. 124 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: So you're just like and honestly, I'm way more chill 125 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: than I was last year. I was so freaked out. 126 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: I was like, Eh, well I'll decide crash. I mean, 127 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: we'll fix it. 128 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: So well, it's exciting and you have to keep us updated. 129 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: And so the website again is Literature Challenge dot net. 130 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: Right, mm hmmm. 131 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: I might need to sign up this year because I 132 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: had a revelation that I have a wedding to say 133 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: for yes, like I kept saying, after the new year, 134 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: after the new year, I'll think about it. And then 135 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, here we are. Yep, I didn't win 136 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: the lottery? 137 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, act did no one want yet? Did they? Oh? 138 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 3: So yeah? 139 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: Is it like a bunch of money right now or something. 140 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: A hundred million or something like that? Superman was one 141 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: hundred million. Yeah. 142 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: But then he was like, but that would require me 143 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: leaving the house. 144 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: What did he say? 145 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: He said, this is stay here behind at home weather. 146 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: Exactly. 147 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: I came home to a cold New York winter half cometh. Yes, uh, well, 148 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: I did read a story about a couple in London 149 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: who thought they won the lottery. Apparently they were doing 150 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: it like on an app on their phone or something 151 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: like that, but they were like technologically challenged and they 152 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 1: didn't actually submit their numbers. But the numbers they picked 153 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: were the winning numbers. So they called the collect their 154 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: gajillions of dollars and they were told sorry, your payment 155 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: was your like payment for the ticket was processed six 156 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: hours after the drawing closed, so they didn't get their money, 157 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: which is. 158 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: So cod I don't even know what I'd do with 159 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: my life. 160 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 2: I just would walk into a wall and just be like, 161 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: it's like so close yet so far away. 162 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: Oh man, that really sucks. 163 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: I don't do lotteries though, honestly, I don't get a 164 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: whole like the mentality around, Oh, it's four hundred million dollars, 165 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: so now let's all go buy tickets and make it 166 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: even more less of a chance, like ye won't win. 167 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: Like exactly, I'm like, give it to me when it's 168 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: one million, let's see all in this pot. Yeah, yeah, 169 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: I never because I don't know. I'm just kind of 170 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: like I'm not gonna win anywhere. I mean, I guess 171 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: it's possible, you know, to win, but I'm like, if 172 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: you're more likely to make the money on your own. 173 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: I think there's two kinds of people in life, people 174 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: who play the lottery and people who don't play the lottery. 175 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, I just don't see it. But anyway, I'm 176 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: sorry for them. But yeah, we'll see who wins this 177 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: time around something else. Excuse me, whoof I haven't talked 178 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 1: in a long time apparently, so you know how every 179 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: holiday this this has been happening. 180 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: You know Uber? You use Uber? 181 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: Right? 182 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I saw that. 183 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: It's the best I feel like by now people should 184 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: understand what surge pricing is. At first, when Uber announced 185 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: surge pricing, which is like when there's the one their 186 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: algorithm shows a lot of demand for or cars, they 187 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: jack up the prices like two three times the normal rates, 188 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: which is a really terrible thing to find out if 189 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: you don't have any warning. But like one of the 190 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: things that Uber does is they because I've had this 191 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: happen to me. It happened to me when it was 192 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: it was like raining, it was five pm rush hour 193 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: and like a Thursday night, and they surged the pricing 194 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: two and a half times and I had to hit like, 195 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: not only that, I have to say yes, I accept 196 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: surge pricing, but I had to then type in yes, 197 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: I accept surge pricing, and the surge pricing is and 198 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: I had to type in two point five to show 199 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: that I like understood it. And yet on New Year's Eve, 200 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: people woke up I'm assuming drunken in a drunken state, 201 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: and were like, what the hell? Like I was charged 202 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty two dollars because Uber had, like 203 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: for New Year's Eve, they jacked up prices, but like 204 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: ten times I saw that an a price It's I mean, 205 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: like you can call it. I mean, yeah, it's price 206 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: gouging and it's crazy. But like at the same time, 207 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: there's other cabs. 208 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: I mean like, but also this is what part that 209 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I understand the search because I've definitely used 210 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: uber or in the city and that's happened. They're like, oh, 211 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: we're experiencing surch it's three times more. I'm like, won't 212 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: get my money, hey, yellow cab. 213 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: You know. 214 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: But from what I understand, and I don't know how 215 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: true this is, but that people agreed to like the 216 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: surge of like three times the amount, and then the 217 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: driver kept dropping and re adding them. 218 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: Oh so the search would increase. 219 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: Yes, but you didn't. You didn't you didn't have to 220 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: re accept the surge, you see what I mean. And 221 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 2: so like you were getting the nine point five search 222 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 2: even though you agreed to the three point five serge. 223 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 3: You see what I mean? 224 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: That that's what So you can definitely complain to Uber 225 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: about it. 226 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: Yes for that, And like I said, I don't know 227 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: if like if that's you know, technically possible, But that 228 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: was one of the posts that I saw that this 229 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: woman was like, I agreed to the three point five search, 230 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: but the driver kept dropping like our Uber you know, 231 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 2: connection or whatever, and then by the time he got 232 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: to us, it was more. But I was not aware 233 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: of that because I didn't agree. 234 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: To that search. 235 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: Now, that is nefarious practices. 236 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, there has to be a way around that 237 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: if that's true, Like, if you're an Uber driver, let 238 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: us know if that's possible, you know, that would be 239 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: kind of interesting. But yeah, you can tweet us that 240 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: the BA podcast because I'd like to know, like it 241 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: was she just making that up because she's pissed, or 242 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: is it possible to kind of do that? 243 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's probably an asshole out there. I don't 244 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't doubt the ability of humans to take advantage 245 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: of other drunken humans. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I mean 246 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: I feel like bar people at bars feel the same way, 247 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: like bartenders. Oh you know, you's New Year's Eve, have 248 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: all the champagne, you know, yolo whatever, But that sucks. Man. 249 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm so glad I haven't been out on New Year's Eve, 250 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: like to a club like where you spend like one 251 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars and you get the wristband and 252 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: whatever sends twenty ten, a night upon which I tried 253 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: very hard for the last six years to forget. But 254 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: ever since then, I've been like, nope, not leaving the house, 255 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: staying home, and it's been the best decision ever for 256 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: wallets and mind. 257 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like once you get twist certain age. 258 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: Somebody was like, you know, you're from New York. If 259 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: you've never seen the ball dropping person, why do people? 260 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: Why didn't you say Superman wants to do this? 261 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: Well is oh no, Yeah. I was like yeah, I mean, 262 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: first of all, I knew. I mean, if you know 263 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: about Superman, he is the ultimate old man stay at home. 264 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, uh huh, sure you're going to 265 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: go out there. I was like, you didn't even like 266 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: you didn't even like to go to like people's houses. 267 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: How You're going to go to New York City. 268 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: I've always wanted to do it. I'm like, watch it 269 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: on TV. 270 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: Of course, he didn't even leave the house, let alone 271 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: go to New York to see the ball dropping person. 272 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: I feel the same way about sporting events most of them, 273 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: Like why would I First of all, Football's hard for 274 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: me to follow what's happening when I'm staring at on 275 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: a field. But like if I have the announcers and 276 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: those handy dandy little yellow lines that they draw and 277 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: they like tell me, you know, like, why would I 278 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: want to watch that in the stadium? 279 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: Exactly? 280 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: Just seems silly. But I'm glad you had good New 281 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: Year's I'm glad you had one too. So speak So 282 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: one of the one of the things that happened this 283 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: weekend was so obviously I was like hanging out with 284 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: all my good friends and we're kind of corny. We 285 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: all met at like we met on this volunteer trip 286 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: we did altern of spring breaking college, you know, where 287 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: you go a week and you like rebuild houses and whatever. 288 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: That's nice. It was. 289 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: It was the best we did. It was right after 290 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Hurricane could trin it back in six which I can't 291 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: believe was ten years ago now, I know. But so 292 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: we've you know, and we were all it was at 293 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: the time it was fifty no, it was one hundred kids, 294 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: two from each state in the country. So we were 295 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: far flung. And this was right in early days of Facebook. 296 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: So it's been really cool that we've all sort of 297 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: most of us have managed to maintain our connections and stuff. 298 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, like, these are some of the 299 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: strongest friendships that I have. And I maybe it's because 300 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm getting older, like I'm reflecting, thinking about my guest 301 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: list and stuff like that. But so we were sitting 302 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: we were all sitting around on the first night of 303 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: our little vacation in one of my friends, you know, 304 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: because we're kind of corny camp kids, he was like, 305 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: you know, go around and say, what's the one word 306 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: that describes your twenty fifteen and what's the one word 307 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: you want to describe your twenty sixteen. And one of 308 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: my friends said twenty sixteen. He wanted to all a 309 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: be I think it was. I don't know if it 310 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: was he or she I forget said he wanted it 311 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: all to be all about relationships, which was right after 312 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: I had said I wanted to be all about making money. 313 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: So I felt kind of like like, oh, I'm the scrooge. 314 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 1: But it got me thinking and I went on it, 315 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: and I just so happened to find this Ted Talk 316 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: which is on their website right now. It was posted 317 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: this weekend all about this seventy five year old study 318 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: where they have been following over seven hundred men since 319 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties. And of those original men, there's just 320 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: a few dozen that are still alive. But they've been 321 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: following them all these decades and recently their wives too, 322 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: to find out what the key to happiness is. Okay, 323 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: and what do you know, but the Ted Talk guy, 324 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: I forget his name, I'm sure he's some expert director 325 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: of this study said that the key to the happiness 326 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: of the men all these years has been the quality 327 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: of the relationships that they've built, like regardless of wealth 328 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: and where they lived and things like that. Not only 329 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: did it make them happier, but they live longer and 330 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: it improve their health. And while I don't think, I 331 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: don't know, I just got me thinking. It made me 332 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: really happy that we have tried to, like once a 333 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: year or twice a year, get together even though it's 334 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: so hard. You know, we all are busy and we 335 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: all have crazy jobs. Some of us are in school, 336 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: we're building businesses and whatnot, that we still get together. 337 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: And then it also got me thinking about how relationships 338 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: have helped me in my career. And I feel like 339 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: sometimes people forget that relate if you approach your career 340 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: from a relationship perspective, like yes, not just from the 341 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: money angle, and I feel like that it can completely 342 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: change your perspective on how you gain wealth if you 343 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: come at it from this place of I'm going to 344 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: build relationships, and from those relationships I build, it's likely 345 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: that good things will come my way. 346 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: No, I agree, because if you I mean, I think 347 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: when you look at anyone who's been super successful and 348 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: just so just people that you know, so many times 349 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: things have happened just because you know someone, or you 350 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: like someone, or you think, oh she's nice, so she's cool, 351 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: she's you know. I remember, like you interviewed me for 352 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: like Business Insider, like I don't know like at the 353 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: start of my business, but then we became cool, and 354 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: then we hung out at fin Con and I was like, oh, 355 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: I like Mandy, but I wasn't you know, I wasn't 356 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: looking at like us hanging out as a business relationship 357 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: or that was going to turn into anything other than 358 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: Oh that's that girl, Mandy. I'll see from time to time, 359 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: you know, right, And then now here we are, we 360 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: have like this uber awesome podcast that would not have 361 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: happened had that initial kind of like spark of a 362 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: relationship started. 363 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I'm really grateful for our relationship because I 364 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: feel like it's been a nice balance of like professional 365 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: and personal and I wish I had more like it 366 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: like it, Yeah, and I feel like it's it's against 367 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: my character as a closeted I'm not closeted, but like 368 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm an introvert in a lot of different ways. And 369 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I met you at a conference where every moment at 370 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: that that was my very first time at this conference. 371 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: I didn't really know anybody, and I really felt this 372 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: urge to just like hide the entire time, you know. 373 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, I feel like and every year I kind 374 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: of get a little bit better at in relationships can 375 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: be scary approaching strangers talking to people. As you get older, 376 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: everyone seems like they're so settled and they already have 377 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: their friends and like they don't need anymore. 378 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: You know, It's so crazy because people think like I'm 379 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: so like friendly and not going. Honestly, no, I'm not 380 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: like in if you put me on stage, yes I'm 381 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: going to turn on and I'm like, yes, you know, 382 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: but if you put me in a room, I'm never 383 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: the type to be like I'm just gonna go up 384 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: to these group of strangers and say, hey, how you doing, 385 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: Like I'll just sit in the corner and be quiet, 386 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: like I'll eat lunch by myself. I don't I'm not 387 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: as It's like, I don't want to consider myself introverted, 388 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: but I'm certainly not as I'm not as friendly. I 389 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: mean I'm friendly, but meaning like I'm just not as 390 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: outgoing as people think. I'm not one to make the 391 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: first move to people who I don't know. And yeah, 392 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: so Finntown was one of those places too where you know, honestly, 393 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time because it was in 394 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: New Orleans. 395 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: It was I spent a lot of time, like walking 396 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: the streets of New Orleans, getting food. 397 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 398 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: So that's why when you were like, oh, you want 399 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: to go for a walk, I was like, I have 400 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: a friend, okay, right. 401 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: You never know what the other person's thinking. I'm thinking, 402 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's Tiffany. Oh my god, it's Tiffany. 403 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm getting sweatish. She's a budget of NISA. Yeah, 404 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: and I hope that I will. I want to get 405 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: better at that in twenty twenty sixteen. I mean it's 406 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: something that I feel like I haven't been terrible at, 407 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: but I feel like you can always work on relationships. 408 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: It's like and it can be exhausting to think about 409 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: man like reaching out to people. But I'm looking at 410 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: my fridge full of Christmas cards right now, feeling guilty 411 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: because I didn't do Christmas cards this year, But you 412 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: know what, what the hell, Like, I can still write 413 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: a card. I have a drawer full of stationary that 414 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: I used to be obsessed with sending little notes, and 415 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: I've kind of fallen off. So I'm going to try 416 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: and make that. My goal for twenty sixteen is to 417 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: see if I can improve some relationships professionally and maybe 418 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: personally that I haven't maybe been as great at maintaining lately. 419 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is definitely one of my goals because I'm like, so, 420 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: I mean, I could just work myself to death, and 421 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, Tiffany, I kind of don't want. 422 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: To do that for twenty sixteen. 423 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 2: Like you know, in the beginning, when you start something, 424 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: you put so much effort into it because you have to, 425 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: because if you don't work, you don't eat. But I'm 426 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: still in grind mode even though I don't technically have 427 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: to be. And I'm like, well, let's lene to pull back. 428 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: And like I spent like a lot of time with 429 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: family this this holiday kind of break, a lot of time, 430 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: and like just today Superman took the day off of 431 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: work and he's like, I don't feel like going to 432 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: work today. 433 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: I said, okay. 434 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 2: And even though it was launch day and there were 435 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: things that going wrong, I was like, you want to 436 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: hang out and he was like, no, you have work 437 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: to do. I was like, no, it's fine, even though 438 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: its closing. My computer was like so painful, Like my computer. 439 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: We went to and we went and we we did 440 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 2: this thing called pole position. 441 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: Have you heard of that? 442 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: It's a indoor track, Like what is it called? Go 443 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 2: kart racing, but it's like the next level and it 444 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: was so much fun, and the people there really took 445 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: it too seriously. I'm like, really, dude, like people there 446 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: like clearly are like pole position addicts. But we had 447 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: so much fun. And then we went to get lunch 448 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: together from like our favorite restaurant. And so that's what 449 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: I want to do more of, like taking the time 450 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: to stop and say the work will literally always be there, 451 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: take a moment, relax, and then get back to work later. 452 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: That's amazing, especially on your launch day. I know that 453 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: he really appreciated that. 454 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 3: No, I think he did, because then later. 455 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: After closing the computer and saying. 456 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: I be fine for you exactly, it was literally so hard. 457 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: I was like, no, I'm fine, I'm fine, even though 458 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: my mind it was like timany there's so many emails 459 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 2: coming in and I'm like, you know what, and there 460 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: are just there gonna be. 461 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: So there's just always a lot of. 462 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: Emails launch day because someone always didn't get something or 463 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: someone doesn't understand something, and I'm like, it's it'll be fune, Tiffy, wait, 464 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: yeah exactly, Like no one You're not a doctor, so 465 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: no one's going to be like, oh my god, you 466 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: weren't here, so I lost my new heart or whatever. 467 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 3: You know. 468 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: I had to remind myself that recently about not taking 469 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: time off from work. I'm like, if you don't show up, 470 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: sorry to your ego, but the world is gonna go on, Like, 471 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: people will still visit Yahoo Finance if you're not at 472 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: your desk, So like, yeah, I know sometimes. 473 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: You do take it because you're like, I've gotta be here, 474 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: and you're like, really, this excuse. 475 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: For lack of building relationships too. I think people hide 476 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: behind their work, yes, God, just like, don't be afraid 477 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: of getting out behind the desk. My desk is like 478 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm chained to it every day. But 479 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, am I really trained? I won't see any shackles. 480 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: I can get up and mingle and like you know, 481 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: walk around and stuff. But you get in that groove 482 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: and you get in this like and in some ways 483 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: it's comforting to think, oh, no, this is the way 484 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: it is, this is the way it's supposed to be. Yes, 485 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: you know, So here's to more relationships and not more, 486 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: but better quality relationship time with coworkers, with family, with 487 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, Rando's on the street. 488 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 2: Who knows exactly, because it's just what's the point if not, 489 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: you know, like. 490 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: I want to be old and alone exactly, or just. 491 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: Like I don't want I want to be able to 492 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 2: like I mean, I enjoy life, but I want to 493 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: just just at another level I don't, like, you know, lately, 494 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: I've been feeling like the next level of like I 495 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: don't know if it's stress, but like I mean, I 496 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: love doing a budgetisa, but I don't love as much 497 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: as I used to because I'm always doing it and 498 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, Tiphany, what else brings you joy? And I 499 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: had to think, and. 500 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, uh, I don't know, and I'm like, dang, 501 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 3: you used to Like I. 502 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 2: Used to take the trains of the city, although I'm 503 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: not doing this anymore, but I used to take the 504 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: train to like Harlem and just walk around, or like 505 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: I was an avid reader of all types of books, 506 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: like you know, I love romance novels, but then I 507 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: loved racial novels and I love biographies and you know, 508 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: so but I don't even read as much I used to. 509 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: And I've actually babysat my nephew, my new nephew, he's 510 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 2: four months. I'm like, I told my sister, even though 511 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: I had work to do, I'm like, drop him off. 512 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: So she dropped him off for a few hours, and 513 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: of course he cried the whole time until Superman held 514 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 2: him and then he looked at me like eh eh. 515 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, that's nice. 516 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: I know, but you know, so just to me, twenty 517 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: sixteen really is a year of balance of like, you know, 518 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: doing the remembering the other things that I love, because 519 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: what I've learned is that you can't just do one 520 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: of the things you love because then you're got. 521 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: To grow to hate it. And so like you have 522 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: to ask yourself, like. 523 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: You know, what's the mix. What's a good mix for 524 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: what you love? You know, a little bit of work, 525 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 2: a little bit of boo, a little bit of family 526 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: and kind of getting that in. 527 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: And a happy Tiffany means people will continue to look 528 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: at you, especially if from the literature challenge, and say, okay, 529 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: if she's happy, and then kind to buy into what 530 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: you're selling, you know what I mean, Not if you're 531 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: like Haggard and. 532 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 3: I know, like I'm tired, why like here's a literature. 533 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: Alone. 534 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 2: Sometimes I would get emails, and I'm like, what does 535 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: this mean? But now I'm just like I've learned to 536 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 2: just I don't know. Plus two, you know what helped 537 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: to one of my friends, And this is why it's 538 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 2: good to have peers and mentors and other people in 539 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: your life kind of that you can kind of like 540 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 2: tap into And one of my friends, her name is 541 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: Memi G Style, and she is dope. 542 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: She's like out of California. 543 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: She's got like a million Facebook followers or she was 544 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: like an overnight success. It was like in like a year, 545 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: she just kaboomed, like her her brand, and so I 546 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: couldn't think of anybody else to reach out to to 547 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: ask what do you do when you're kind of like 548 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: out of soorce or feeling overwhelmed, And she just gave 549 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: me such great advice. She said, honestly, Tiffany, you have 550 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: to set clear boundaries. 551 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: And now you hear that. 552 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: But then she gave me some boundary suggestions and she 553 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: was like, for example, she does not answer financial enough 554 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: financial but she me me G Style like makes her 555 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: own clothes. She's like, I don't answer sewing questions on 556 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: social media platforms behind the scenes, like on Twitter, her instance, 557 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: she said, because there's so many inboxes, I can't possibly 558 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: manage all of them, so I just don't. 559 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: She said. 560 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 2: If someone doesn't take enough effort to go to my website, 561 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: She's like, it's my name, it's my handle, it's all 562 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: over everywhere, and then click contact me and ask the 563 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: question there. Then I'm not going to answer behind the scenes. 564 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 2: And at first I was like, no, you have to 565 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: be accessible, but I thought about what she said and 566 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: I started implementing it, and no one has died. 567 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 3: And she's right. 568 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: If someone really has a question, they will find you 569 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: in the appropriate way, which is your email inbox versus 570 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: asking on Twitter. 571 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 3: Hey girl, so how do you retire? Via one hundred 572 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: and forty characters. 573 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: And so like just like setting like clear boundaries or 574 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: like now too, I don't answer because Facebook was a 575 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: huge place for people to hit me up in my 576 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: private inbox, so I don't answer those questions anymore there. Yeah, 577 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: so setting boundaries is just one of my core thanks 578 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: for twenty sixteen as well. 579 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, that goes for YouTube Burne ambition, fam y we 580 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: say our email address on every podcast. No, it's great, 581 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: So if you want to email us, well, Brown Ambition 582 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: Podcast at gmail dot com. We actually got a really 583 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: good reader question today which we can share later. I think, okay, 584 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: let's move on to the next. 585 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: So we're looking for, well, do you have any not buzzworthies? 586 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: Do you have any breaks? 587 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: Brown breaks? 588 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: I want to continue. I want to double down on 589 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: my brown break. This is not a cop out. I've 590 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: really thought about it. I want to double down on 591 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: my brown break from last week or the week before, 592 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: which was to go on a spending cleanse for January. 593 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 3: I haven't. 594 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: Well. I had to pay gass on my trip this weekend, 595 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: but other than that, I've kind of been good. I 596 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: just turned down, like I just filled out a seamless 597 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: order and then I deleted it after like staring at 598 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: the screen for ten minutes. But I'm like, this is 599 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: not so I'm deleting my sceneless app. That's a huge 600 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: money suck for me, Okay, And I'm just gonna try 601 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: and go back to basics. And it's not that I 602 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: need to be pinching pennies necessarily, but I want I 603 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: feel like I have been spending a lot for like 604 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: kind of chasing like little spurts of fun and like 605 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: or whatever. And like it's not really helping me. And 606 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting back into the sort of 607 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: like the spiral of just spend, spend, spend without thinking 608 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: about it, and I want to, Yeah, I kind of 609 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: get out of that. So I'm gonna I'm gonna really 610 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: try and not spend money in January. Luckily, I've already 611 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: I bought tickets for a couple of concerts like in November, 612 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: so I'm still gonna have fun, but I'm not gonna 613 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spend that much this month. 614 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: Well that's a good brown break, It's like me for me, 615 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: my brown bak is really too. I'm taking any brown 616 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: break from from stress. So now I was gonna say overworking, 617 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: but more so from the emotional part of it. So 618 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, nothing is really that serious. So 619 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: I told myself, Okay, I'm gonna take a brown break 620 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: from always because I'm like super sensitive and also too, 621 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 2: I care a lot, so I'm like the typical middle. 622 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 3: Child, like like, be love me, what did I do? 623 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: Tell me how to fix it? 624 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 2: I'll do anything, you know, And so I'm like, man, 625 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: that is very like tiring and stressful, especially as you 626 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: start to invite more people into your life. And so 627 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, I'm gonna take a brown break 628 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: from that. And I told myself that just to chill, 629 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: and actually I'm gonna do the opposite of you. Because 630 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: I never spend anything. I'm always like, well it's a 631 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: little bit too much. Oh, I'm not gonna get that. 632 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: And I'm like, Tiffany, you haven't bought yourself anything, like 633 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: outside of stuff that's like technical stuff that I need 634 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: for business, you know, like even my clothes and anything 635 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: that's new. It's always like, well, this is a Budge 636 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: of Liza outfit. So I'm like, no, I'm taking a 637 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 2: brown break from Penny Pinching too. I'm gonna do two 638 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: brown breaks from stress and Penny Pinching. Twenty sixteen. I'm 639 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 2: finally gonna upgrade my car. I have a ninety nine 640 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: Toya to camera. 641 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 642 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: It's like, yes, I've met that car. It's my second 643 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 2: car adult life. I've had that car. When I got 644 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: the car, it was already eight years old. So I'm like, Tiffy, 645 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: it's okay to get yourself something a little bit nicer. 646 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: You've been working hard for it. So you might see 647 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 2: me and arranged. Like, I don't know, I don't know 648 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: something nice, but I don't know something befitting someone. 649 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: Who works hard. 650 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: So round break from penny pinching and brown break from stress. 651 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: Things that matter. A quality car is a good investment, 652 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: it is, man. I feel that the same way about 653 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: my glasses right now. My glasses are so scratched up, 654 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Mandy, your handbag costs more than it 655 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: would be to replace these glasses which you use every day, 656 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: which you need to see and not to die and work. 657 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: And yet I'm just like I can handle this. 658 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: No, I can't. 659 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: The scratches are out of control. Ah, thank goodness for 660 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: a new round of insurance. 661 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right. Every news in January, right, m they'd. 662 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: Be killing me with that, Like one, you only get 663 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: contacts or glasses, And I'm like, but I wear boats. 664 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: What do I do? 665 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: What shall I do? 666 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: We're just gonna buy both, damn it, because it's an investment. 667 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: So this week we have a reader question from Macara. Macara, 668 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: thanks for sending us an email. She has a really, 669 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: really good question that I think a lot of people 670 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: can relate to. So Macara, who is of Cambodian descent. 671 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: She's Cambodian American, says she has a question. She'd like 672 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: to continue building her career in the project management field, 673 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: and she's worked really hard on getting to a place 674 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: where she feels financially secure. But she's torn because she 675 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: wants to go to Cambodia for a year and really 676 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: dive into her heritage, be around her language and the culture. 677 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: She said she came here when she was four years 678 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: old and her family was on government assistance. She never 679 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: grew up with parents working in corporate America, and it 680 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: sounds like now she finally is. She's thirty three and 681 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: she's getting into the groove of her career path and 682 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: project management. However, like a lot of people her age are, 683 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: she doesn't have a lot of money saved and absolutely nothing, 684 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 1: she says, in retirement, which she's not so proud of. 685 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: So now she has a question. Her mother wants her 686 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: to buy a house so her mother can come and 687 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: live with her. She says, culturally, I don't mind doing that, 688 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: but I'm not ready financially and emotionally. She wants to 689 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: live in Cambodia for a year to get it out 690 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: of her system before quote unquote settling down with my mom, 691 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: She says, I want to speak my language and experience 692 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: my culture before I finally have to be an adult. Adult. 693 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, okay. However, would I be losing 694 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: a lot financially if I go work in a country 695 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: with less earning potential. She thinks the answer is obvious, 696 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: but she wants to know if this is something that 697 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: you know it's too late for her. Should I have 698 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: done this in my twenties? It took me a long 699 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: time to get to where I am today. Because another 700 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: aspect to her story is that her father passed away 701 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: when she was twenty two, and she had to shell 702 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: out a lot of money to help pay for his 703 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: funeral expenses. It's taken her a full decade to get 704 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: back to a place where she feels financially healthy since 705 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: he's passed away. So essentially, her question, Macara, is should 706 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 1: I stay or should I go? 707 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: I mean, well, I. 708 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: Would say this, Macara that if you it's to me, 709 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: the age is not as big of an issue. I mean, 710 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: I didn't start my business really until I was like 711 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: thirty thirty one. But at the same time, I get 712 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: what you're saying. Financially you want to make the best 713 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: financial choice. But to me, this is the type of 714 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: thing that think with your heart first and then figure 715 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: out how to make it work with your head, you know, 716 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: because there's nothing worse than a. 717 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: Life with regrets. 718 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: I would hate for you to be fifty and be like, 719 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: you know what, thirty three, I was stinking baby, because 720 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: I have a lot of older friends, and so when 721 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: I used to tell them, I'm like, I don't know 722 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: if I should do it. 723 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: I'm thirty one, I'm getting so old, they'd be like, what, 724 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: I'm twenty five, girl, You're a baby. 725 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: Go for it. And so, yeah, I think that you 726 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: can make it work. Actually, Cambodia, the cost of living, 727 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: I've heard it's significantly less, right, Mandy, didn't you say 728 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: something about definitely trying to figure out a way to 729 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: work in Cambodia. 730 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I mean, well, first of all, what I 731 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: was gonna say is I think you can make this 732 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: really affordable. I think I think that Southeast Asia, this 733 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: in the area in Cambodia can be very affordable to travel. 734 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: Not to mention it sounds like you have family roots there. 735 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: I would say, work those family connections and see if 736 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: there's a place you could stay for free even or 737 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: for a little bit of money and project management, maybe 738 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: a skill you find that could be transferable to a 739 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: job in Cambodia. Yes, you'd be making less, but maybe 740 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: you could save while you're there, even because the cost 741 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: of living would be so low. I would say, you 742 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: haven't really meant she hasn't really mentioned like what her 743 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: idea of life in Cambodia could be. Like, I don't 744 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: know if she wants to travel to you know, at 745 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: luxury resorts or something like that. But maybe you're having 746 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: trouble envisioning yourself there because your expectations of what your 747 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: travel there might look like aren't really in line with 748 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: what you could afford. Yeah, but I say go for it. 749 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 3: I don't think. 750 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't think thirty three is too old at all. 751 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't think life ends in your twenties. I hope not. 752 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: No, sure, only got two more years to live. No, honestly, 753 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: it does it. 754 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: And definitely there were times like, for example, in my twenties, 755 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: I was always like, well, I wanted to travel, but 756 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: I was like. 757 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: Well, I should save, and I should stock away. 758 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: And I should And it wasn't really until I hit 759 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: my early thirties that I was like, I should have 760 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: done these things in my twenties. So I did them 761 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: in my thirties, Like my first three or four years 762 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: of my thirties, I'm thirty six now. I spent it 763 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: like I was twenty five. I like shared a room, 764 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: like I lived in a room in the house. I 765 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: had a little beatdown car. I traveled the world all 766 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: the time, even though I'd had no money. I mean, 767 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: within the span of like three or four years, I 768 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: went to like over twenty nearly thirty countries and I 769 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: wasn't even working. I'd lost my job due to unemployment. 770 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: And I was like, I had a house. That's well, 771 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: let me not say that online. Let's just say I 772 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: was running out some property and that was using some 773 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 2: of that money to travel with and it was totally 774 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: not the probably the most responsible way to be financially, 775 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: but I wasn't completely irresponsible. But I'm so glad that 776 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 2: I chose to explore and kind of like live this 777 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: other side of life. And if you're not ready to 778 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 2: believe me, a house is a big responsibility. So that 779 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 2: is not something that you should do for someone else, 780 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: you know, definitely you want to be ready for that 781 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: because that's going to take a huge financial chunk out 782 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: of what you're making. So if there's something you kind 783 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: of want to do and explore, do it. But like 784 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: I said, lead with your heart as far as doing it, 785 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: but use your mind to figure out how can I 786 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: do so in the most financially responsible way possible. 787 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, go for it. Life is so short. 788 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: You don't want to look back and be like, why 789 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: did I go? 790 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: And the other part of I totally agree absolutely. I mean, 791 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: after college, I turned out a job for and traveled 792 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: for six months in South America, and everyone said I 793 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: was crazy, including my little brother who thought he was 794 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: like my business manager. But it was the best. Not 795 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: only did it help me, I mean I know again 796 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: I was, I was young, but like it. I feel 797 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: like I believe wholeheartedly it made me more a better 798 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: candidate for jobs when I returned, in terms of my 799 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: experience and the fact that I'd been somewhere else and 800 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: I had interesting stories and perspective. But I wanted to 801 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: go back to that. Yet you mentioned her mom. This 802 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: is a huge part of this question. I feel like 803 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: it's this pressure from her mother to buy a house 804 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: and then have her come and live with her. And 805 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: I think that culturally this is very common in pretty 806 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: much every culture besides America, right, I mean, it's quite 807 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 1: common for the parents to move in with the kids, 808 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: and I think that can be, you know, a good thing. 809 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: It's and I mean, obviously it makes sense over I mean, 810 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: it makes sense from like an evolutionary standpoint, like you 811 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: need help, like you need help with rearing children. And 812 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: we see why parents would want to move home. The 813 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 1: parents need support from the kids as they get older, 814 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: and they can offer childcare or whatever. But if that's 815 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: not the place that you're in right now, I think 816 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: that you shouldn't feel pressure to russian to purchasing property 817 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: just to sort of fulfill this cultural responsibility. And it's 818 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: not like you couldn't do it in the future. She 819 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: doesn't say if she has any siblings. Maybe if she's 820 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: an only child, there's an extra pressure which is really tough, 821 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: you know. 822 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 2: And especially now if you don't have kids. Man, now 823 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: is the time to really go for things. 824 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: And she says she wants to do this before she 825 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: has to be an adult adult exactly an adult thing 826 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: is hard, but it already sounds like you're doing a 827 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: lot of adulting, Like at the age of twenty two 828 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: you stepped up and helped your mom pay for your 829 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: dad's funeral expenses, and just dealing with the grief of 830 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: losing a father that young. That's a lot of adult 831 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: thing you've already done. So maybe you deserve a chance 832 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: to make up for a time you probably lost in 833 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: your twenties when you were sort of taking on more 834 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: of your household responsibilities. And I don't think you should 835 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: feel guilty about that at all. 836 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 3: Agreed. 837 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: And there's something that one of my favorite writers, cheryld Stray. 838 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: Cheryl Strade says she also has a podcast called Deer 839 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: Sugar and She's and where she takes questions from readers, 840 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: and she always says that when she gets questions from readers, 841 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: she can tell that they not readers listeners. She can 842 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: tell that the person writing already knows what they are at, 843 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: They already know the question, the answer to their question, 844 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: or what they want to hear. And I feel like 845 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: Macara really knows she should go mm hmm and know 846 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: she wants to, but hey, if it helps for us 847 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: to say we support you, then we support you. 848 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 3: Yes, just right? I want you to send me a 849 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 3: picture of you and Cambodia, like. 850 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: Hey, girls, we're here. 851 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 2: I'm here, and if you never know, you might find 852 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: your future husband in Cambodia. 853 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's a beautiful place. I've heard mm hmmm. 854 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 3: I haven't been, but I've heard that. I've heard that 855 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 3: as well. 856 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: And it is super affordable, So there's resources out there. 857 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: I mean, look just look at budget travel and Cambodia. 858 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: I I guarantee you can make it happen, especially if 859 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: you get that that family connection to help you with 860 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: your living expenses. 861 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: Or even doing something online, like how dope would it 862 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,919 Speaker 2: be if maybe you were to blog or you found 863 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: some sort of job that you can work online, so 864 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 2: that way you can make you know, the American dollar, 865 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 2: but be living on Cambodian expenses. You know, you might 866 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 2: actually save more. 867 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who meant who work out 868 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: freelance work beforehand with American based companies, or maybe your 869 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: job would even let you, or you can do consulting. 870 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: Project management is like a very common like job. Maybe 871 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: there's consulting opportunities out there. I would see. I don't 872 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: limit yourself, and I mean we have to sort of 873 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: wrap up this question now, but if there's any other 874 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: progress you make on this, like, definitely email us, let 875 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: us know. We want to hear all about your plans 876 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: and see if you make it. 877 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 3: Yes, go go go now. 878 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: I want to go on vacation. Wins my wins. Just 879 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: to bring things full circle, I have to say that 880 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: my win was the time I spent with my Unfortunately, 881 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: I didn't get to spend time with my family this 882 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 1: holiday except for my dad, which was nice, which I mentioned, 883 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: which it was tough. It was as tough as I 884 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: thought it was going to be not to be with 885 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: my mom Christmas morning, and I had like my baby 886 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: moment of like, you know, oh, I'm lost in the world, 887 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: but you know, taking the time to spend time with 888 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: these really special friends who I see just a few 889 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: times a year this week I was completely reinvigorating and 890 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: it really re centered me and my focus for the 891 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: new year. So I'm just grateful to them. And I 892 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: know a couple of them are listening, So I just 893 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: want to say I love them and I really value 894 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: their friendship, and I mean that's what's really important, and 895 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm really grateful to them for that. 896 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 2: And Honestly, my win is really similar too that I 897 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 2: want my wind to be that I was really able 898 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: to spend time with my family. It wasn't just like 899 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: oh Christmas morning, No, like yesterday. We had like a 900 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 2: family brunch and it was nice to have all my sisters, 901 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 2: my mom, and my dad, my sister's husband and her 902 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: new baby and to hang out. And then afterwards I 903 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 2: hung out with my older sister who lives in Chicago, 904 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 2: and so it was just nice. It was just a 905 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 2: lot of family time and to hang out with Superman 906 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: the Supergirl, and so I spent even though it probably 907 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 2: was like the busiest time of the year for me, 908 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 2: I actually took the most time off, which was really nice, 909 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: and so that was definitely a win for me. 910 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: And I know that once the dust settle, the dust 911 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: suttles from launch week, hopefully you can step back and 912 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: appreciate the amazing work that you're doing. I mean, you 913 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: tripled the Liberature challenge in a year, tripled. 914 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 3: I know. 915 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: I know a lot of companies that would love to 916 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: triple their user base. 917 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: I know, and I say I was looking behind the 918 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 2: scenes on like the Budgetnissa page on Facebook. I was like, wait, 919 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 2: we had like a reach of like eight hundred thousand. 920 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, what, Wow, Yeah. 921 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: Are you listening, sponsors, Are you listening exactly? 922 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 2: You already know how I feel about them, Sponsors. 923 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: I love y'allngrats, and I can't wait to see how 924 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 1: far the Liberature Challenge again. It's Liberature Challenge got net. Yes, 925 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 1: so thanks and happy New Year everybody. Yes, Happy New Year.