WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 8/31: Analyzing the 53-Man Initial Roster, Report on Adding QB Matt Corral

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Lazar and Alex bar and Lazarre.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, everybody nailed it, Joined has always by our bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Bars.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you focused on this right now or are you

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<v Speaker 2>lost in the in the your your appearance on No.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, he's saying that I am have a lack of

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<v Speaker 1>height in a bad back. Half of that is true.

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<v Speaker 2>The lack of height is definitely true. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>about the back bark. Everybody that that heard that. Alex

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<v Speaker 2>said that I was the pot calling the kettle black. Yeah, seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess is that's that's fair. I mean, like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not people that can't tell from me sitting in this chair,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm vertically challenged. I'm not. I'm not exactly six feet

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<v Speaker 2>tall either. But you know, whenever there's a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>take a joke at you, I gotta take the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, we end up getting the pit anyway, So shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to David helping us out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh at Springsteen you're talking about now.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that was that's what where that conversation came.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get Bruce Springsteen, also known as the Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Writers convention, Yes, which you saw multiple Patriots reporters.

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots reporters the reporter so as me and Matt McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>from the Hub. Yeah, saw Mike Reese, Yeah, saw Does

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<v Speaker 1>Sebastian Volmer count as Patriots media?

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<v Speaker 2>He does?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Sebastian Volmer was there. I saw Land Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was actually him and Marcus Kuhne were there together both planned.

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<v Speaker 1>Who else did I say? As DJ Bean from NBC

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Boston, Yeah, that was his first ever Springsteen showcase.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe there were no it was was there, Tom Giles,

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<v Speaker 1>We saw some other people. It was a fun night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good night.

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<v Speaker 2>How many tickets do you think that media take up

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<v Speaker 2>to a Bruce Springsteen concert? Like, at least at least

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<v Speaker 2>seventy are of somebody in media.

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<v Speaker 1>Or seventy five percent of sixty thousand whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>People the whole media Boston was at that concert. Morell's agreeing.

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<v Speaker 2>I I think that's really what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of people to be working in media,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Enough with the pleasant care pandering here to

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<v Speaker 1>the springsteenist, does is that a thing? Springstenie says Springsteen fans,

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<v Speaker 1>it predates the need to have a little kitchen title

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<v Speaker 1>for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Springsteener's that's better. Uh. So we have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. As Alex just mentioned, we have, uh

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty three man roster. We've seen him out of

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<v Speaker 2>practice the last couple of days, along with the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll be honest, you know you. I always come

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<v Speaker 2>with an opening take. It's how I like to start

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<v Speaker 2>off the show. I was ready to come in here

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<v Speaker 2>if this show was like yesterday at ten am, before

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<v Speaker 2>waivers happened and before everybody cleared and magically reappeared at

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<v Speaker 2>practice on the practice squad. Yeah, I was ready to

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<v Speaker 2>come in here guns blazing about this whole Bailey Zappy

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<v Speaker 2>situation because my my first immediate reaction was to.

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<v Speaker 1>Analyze Zappi's role in all of this, right, and how

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<v Speaker 1>we went from what I'm not to take any victory laps.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to take a victory lap on this

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<v Speaker 2>you can. I you know, I try not to not

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<v Speaker 2>take any victory laps this show. If you listen to

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<v Speaker 2>this show all last season, we never wavered on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>We were steadfast in the fact that Mac Jones was

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<v Speaker 2>a better quarterback than Bailey Zappi. Number one and number two,

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<v Speaker 2>what they were doing with Bailey ZAPPI was keeping him

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<v Speaker 2>on the rails. Honestly, like in terms of the scheme

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<v Speaker 2>and what they were.

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<v Speaker 1>At, it was a little smoke and mirrors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was you know, Fugazi. It wasn't real. It

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<v Speaker 2>was it wasn't real.

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<v Speaker 1>It was real, it wasn't sustainable.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's You're right, that's a better way of

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<v Speaker 2>putting him.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was more we were saying. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>we had this conversation the week Mac came back. We

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<v Speaker 1>had we did a whole thirty minutes on will they

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<v Speaker 1>let Mac Jones run the Bailey's Appy offense?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it was, right. So there's there's two things

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<v Speaker 2>that play here with with this Bailey's Appy thing. One is,

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<v Speaker 2>for lack of a better phrase, the downfall of Bailey

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<v Speaker 2>Zappy to go from a guy that has his name

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<v Speaker 2>being chanted by the Dlatte Stadium faithful to come into

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<v Speaker 2>the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think that's fair to Bailey's Appy

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<v Speaker 1>to call it a downfall.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a pretty significant turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Not but Bailey Zachy, did you go from that Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night against Chicago where sixty five thousand people are going zapy. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>off the roster, I would just rephrase. But he's the

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<v Speaker 1>same guy he's always been, right, he didn't chill. He

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<v Speaker 1>changed some things this summer, but it's more the downfall

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<v Speaker 1>of the people who because we're on the zappy trade. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more the downfall of them. The fever has broken

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think Bailey's at like, did he have

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<v Speaker 1>a good summer?

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<v Speaker 2>Other puns can we come up with on this?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he have a good summer?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't think he didn't. I I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>he deserved to get cut me neither. I didn't like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he did anything monumentally wrong. So I

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<v Speaker 1>feel weird calling it his downfall because I think that

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<v Speaker 1>implies significant fault on his part, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that exists here.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's that conversation which we can have, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think also speaks to some of the things that we

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<v Speaker 2>have talked about on the show during training camp of

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<v Speaker 2>why ZAPPI was struggling in the Bill O'Brien offense, What

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<v Speaker 2>were some of the issues we were seeing and the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing And I went back and looked this up

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure I had the numbers correct. His splits

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<v Speaker 2>last year with play action and without play action were

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that he is. Like his no non play

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<v Speaker 2>action dropbacks. He was at five point eight yards per attempt.

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<v Speaker 2>That's about what I would expect based off of what

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen this summer. His play action yards per attempt

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<v Speaker 2>last year, well, you want to guess the number is astronomical.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to guess?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the best in the league, isn't it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, what fifteen sixteen yards something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen seventeen yards per attempt off play action.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is not a Bailey Zapp beat. Every quarterback's

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<v Speaker 1>better with play action. That's just true. Across the league.

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<v Speaker 1>He was exponentially better. But this is why, again you

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<v Speaker 1>go back to it. His play action rate, the percentage

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<v Speaker 1>of his pass attempts that came off play action was

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<v Speaker 1>double mac Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was twenty six to sixteen, so not double.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, almost almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten percent on that sample is pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>The three numbers I remember looking up last year were

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<v Speaker 1>play action rate, RPO rate, was forced play action rate

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<v Speaker 1>RPO rate, under center rate, and extra blocker so sixth

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<v Speaker 1>seventh blocker. They were all everything was struck. One of

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<v Speaker 1>those numbers is ZAPPI doubled up might have been rpr

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<v Speaker 1>rate YEA doubled up Mac Jones. But and it goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to the point where you that's why it looks

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<v Speaker 1>so different, because they were allowing Bailey Zappy to use

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<v Speaker 1>mechanics that helped the quarterback that Mac Jones didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to us as much. And then what you saw this

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<v Speaker 1>summer was sort of what that looks like on even footing.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct when they put them both in the same system.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it came crystal clear pretty quickly in the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>That it became clear as soon as you sent that text, as.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon as I was ragging on Mac on like day

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<v Speaker 2>four of pads or whatever that was, it came it

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<v Speaker 2>became very crystal clear that Zappie was not made to

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<v Speaker 2>be extremely efficient and uh sophisticated. No bells and whistles,

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<v Speaker 2>no play action like let's just roll the ball out

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<v Speaker 2>and play football and the guy that got the got

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<v Speaker 2>the ducks in the row better pre snap, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is a huge, huge part of this Bill O'Brien offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything you got to be able to set the protection.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me, let me ask you this, you started

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<v Speaker 1>cutting real quick. But like I've said this, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious your thought on it because i don't know I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever said it on the show. Uh, the way the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill O'Brien offense works, Yeah, the result of the plays

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<v Speaker 1>decided before the snap. Once the ball is snapped, it's

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<v Speaker 1>too late. Everything that makes it either good play or

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<v Speaker 1>bad play has pretty much happened before the ball is snap.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say at least like like sixty five to

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five percent of the pre snap stuff, it just

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<v Speaker 2>decides that determines the outcome. Okay, So yeah, so the

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<v Speaker 2>more than half you have to set the protection, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the biggest thing. YEA, you know, work with the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line. Are we three down? Are we four down?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we you know? Is it an overfront? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>an underfront? Like these are the things that they call

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<v Speaker 2>out pre snap, and then you have basically two plays

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time called in the huddle. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>always a run in a pass. Sometimes it could be

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<v Speaker 2>run to run, sometimes it could be passed to pass.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point is is that when you read that

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<v Speaker 2>defensive structure pre snap, you need to make a check

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<v Speaker 2>to the better play. Whether it's staying in the play

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<v Speaker 2>that you called or checking to the second play. Once

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<v Speaker 2>get to that point, then the ball is snapped. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you have to read the coverage. You have to remember

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<v Speaker 2>how the play changes to the coverage right, the side

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<v Speaker 2>adjustments and the route options and all that those types

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<v Speaker 2>of things, the conversions of the routes. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>remember all those different types of things, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>have to make the throw right. But then you have

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<v Speaker 2>to actually do the action of the football part.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not just you have to. I would even

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<v Speaker 1>say there's another step in there. So yes, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to understand how to play it. Just once the ball

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<v Speaker 1>is staffed. You also have to, maybe this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the same, understand how the other players are going

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<v Speaker 1>to adapt, right, because you it can't be as simple

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<v Speaker 1>as you were. Right, there's an option route here, he's

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<v Speaker 1>good like it's based on the cover. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be an out route. You need to make sure you're

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<v Speaker 1>reading it the same way your wide receiver reads it,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you read it one way and you're thinking out,

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<v Speaker 1>if he reads it the other way and he's thinking

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<v Speaker 1>in it, get get picked off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how that happens. So you have all these

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<v Speaker 2>different elements that go into the the mental part of

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<v Speaker 2>the game for this Bill O'Brien offense, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>what became crystal clear is that Zappi really struggled with

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<v Speaker 2>those elements because he was holding the ball for an eternity,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to read out the plays and make the right

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<v Speaker 2>plays and things like that, and his decision making completely

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<v Speaker 2>fell off. And the last thing that went was the accuracy.

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<v Speaker 2>He started spraying the ball up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that one. I think he was trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>that like side arm stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>There, and I think, to be fair to him, like

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<v Speaker 2>the timing with the receivers you're working with like Thyrec

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<v Speaker 2>Pitts and Roley Webb and Scottie Washington, and there's just

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<v Speaker 2>this cast of characters that are continuously rotating in and out.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the blocking up front wasn't very good. Like

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<v Speaker 2>all these things played a role, But I think the

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<v Speaker 2>main thing is is that, like, yes, there were real

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<v Speaker 2>causes for concern in the Bailey Zappie camp in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of his fit in the Bill O'Brien offense. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a much better fit in rhythm based offense with locked routes,

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<v Speaker 2>where all he had to do was make a play right,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's off of play action or even in the

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<v Speaker 2>spread elements that they used him in last year, it

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<v Speaker 2>was down the field, pick a matchup, and throw the

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<v Speaker 2>ball to the matchup right. Like, it wasn't a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of all this different type of minutia that we

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<v Speaker 2>just broke down so that there's that angle of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I actually don't think that's why he was cut.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that that's why he was cut. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that his play warranted him being released from

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<v Speaker 2>the roster, right, I think why he was cut. And

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<v Speaker 2>this to me is like where we talk so much

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<v Speaker 2>about quarterbacks and receivers and passing, and like that's the

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterbacks draw all the headlines for all the right reasons,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the position that we always talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the most on any football team, not just the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason why the Patriots had to play gymnastics

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<v Speaker 2>with the roster was because currently they have six offensive

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<v Speaker 2>tackles on this roster, because they don't have any tackles

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<v Speaker 2>besides Trent Brown Well that can play.

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<v Speaker 1>That's part of it. I think you could blow it

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<v Speaker 1>up even a little bigger than that. They have eleven

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<v Speaker 1>offensive linemen. Yeah, because they handcuffed themselves into keeping eleven

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<v Speaker 1>offensive linemen. Going back to the draft, you draft three

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the top one fifty, you're keeping all of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys. They then went out and acquired two linemen

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<v Speaker 1>right before cutdowns. Those are guys that are making the team.

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<v Speaker 1>You had Riley Reef with the guaranteed money he was given,

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<v Speaker 1>he was making the team. They probably didn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>activate Calvin Anderson right away until it was clear they

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<v Speaker 1>had no other tackles, right so you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>activate him from NFI and then put him on PEP

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<v Speaker 1>and put him on IR. That wouldn't make sense. So

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<v Speaker 1>they I'm not saying they had to keep eleven guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they they I think they felt like they had

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<v Speaker 2>to keep eleven guys because they had to keep all

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<v Speaker 2>their options open. Well, because if they know and Calvin

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<v Speaker 2>Anderson's a turnstile, they have to.

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<v Speaker 1>But a guy like Jake Andrews doesn't keep their options

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<v Speaker 1>open in that regard. But he was the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>had to keep because it's just that's asset management, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to they put themselves in a corner

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<v Speaker 1>where they were going to have to make a decision

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<v Speaker 1>that was poor asset management. Whether it was cutting one

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<v Speaker 1>of the guys they drafted this year, whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>cutting one of the guys they traded for, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was going short at another position, in this case quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe even running back. You can look there as

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<v Speaker 1>well because of the like they could have spread out

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<v Speaker 1>their picks more in the draft, they could have attacked

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<v Speaker 1>the position quality instead of quantity and not ended up

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<v Speaker 1>with all of these different offens. Like there's a number

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<v Speaker 1>of places it could have changed.

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<v Speaker 2>But that that's my whole take on this, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's it's not just tackles, it's offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line as a whole, because a guy like Jake Andrews

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<v Speaker 1>factors into that. Yeah, a guy like Mafi, a Tonio

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<v Speaker 1>Maffi fact but a Tonio Maffi made the team even

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<v Speaker 1>if they didn't. If they were good at tackle like

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<v Speaker 1>a Toni and he was a seventh round pick the

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<v Speaker 1>way he played in camp, Antonio Maffi should have made

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<v Speaker 1>this team. This Jake Andrew's city. So that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>look and you're like, well, those guys are here because

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<v Speaker 1>of their draft talk. A guy like Tyrone Wheatley. He's

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<v Speaker 1>here because he was recently traded for Darien Lowe. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I liked that move, hand up, I'll say that. But

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<v Speaker 1>they had too many guys that were roster locks for

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<v Speaker 1>reasons other than twenty twenty three talent level, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>where they kind of got put.

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<v Speaker 2>Into a corner. Right, So this all I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>on the same page here and we're getting to the

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<v Speaker 2>same destination.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, I just think it's bigger than your your miss.

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<v Speaker 2>This all comes down to the fact that in the

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<v Speaker 2>off season, whether when I say offseason, I mean March,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean two weeks before the regular season opener.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's both.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think in March and then also in April

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<v Speaker 2>during the draft, they had opportunities to spend premium assets

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<v Speaker 2>at the tackles position. Correct, The worst position on the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two Patriot was right tackle, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it was particularly close. It was an abomination.

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<v Speaker 2>Isaiah Win, Marcus Cannon, Yodney could just Connor McDermott. At

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the season, even Connor McDermott playing like

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<v Speaker 2>replacement level was an upgrade, right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>That was how Connor McDermott was the bright spot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how bad tackle was. Right tackle specifically was for

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots last year. And we get this a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I got this lot. I don't enough. If you did well,

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<v Speaker 2>what could they have done? What could they have done differently?

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<v Speaker 2>And when I hear that, that and the injury excuse,

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<v Speaker 2>like the in camp injury excuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it did.

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<v Speaker 2>Those two things just blow my mind that were even

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<v Speaker 2>using those as excuses. There were six free agent starting

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<v Speaker 2>tackles in March.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked a lot about it, the whole Sodo thing, remember, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Orlando Brown. Yeah, you Hadwan Taylor, you had mcglinche,

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<v Speaker 1>you had McGarry, you had Andre Dillard who they tried

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<v Speaker 1>to see and got out bid by Tennessee for not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. And then Wiley, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>starting right tackle for the Chiefs last year in the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. So he Wiley is one that I look

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<v Speaker 1>at and I'm like, that was not a ton of money.

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<v Speaker 1>And he started every game for Kansas City last year.

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<v Speaker 1>He pitched a shutout in the playoffs, zero sacks allowed

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<v Speaker 1>in three games in the playoffs, including against the Son

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<v Speaker 1>Reddick and the Super Bowl. And that was a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't going to cost you a Mike McGlinchey eighty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars to bring in. So they had six free

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<v Speaker 1>agent tackles that were start as five of them changed teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb McGarry was the only guy that went back to

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<v Speaker 1>his original team out of that group. So you had

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<v Speaker 1>five movable objects on the offensive line that you could

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<v Speaker 1>have signed, and instead you'd, let's call it what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>you cheaped out and you signed Calvin Anderson and Riley Reef,

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty four year old Riley Reef who we knew

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<v Speaker 1>was over the hill in Chicago. Lastyard didn't even start

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<v Speaker 1>out of the gate for the Bears, who had a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible offensive line, by the way, didn't even start until

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<v Speaker 1>like midway through the season when they had injuries. He

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<v Speaker 1>was essentially their swing tackle last year. Calvin Anderson, who

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<v Speaker 1>has twelve starts, he was their uh. Conor McDermott, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve starts in three years for Calvin Anderson. He was

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<v Speaker 2>another option that you threw out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Which, like signing those guys individually isn't necessarily a mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is so it's it's only signing them and

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<v Speaker 1>not bringing in right, right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>See, this is where the depth thing becomes. Like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is where the conversation starts, right because if you have like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just put a placeholder in there. They tried to

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<v Speaker 2>sign Andre Dillard, so let's go with Andre Dillard for

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<v Speaker 2>arguments sake. If you come into the season with Trent

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<v Speaker 2>Brown and Andre Dillard as your tackles and then you're

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<v Speaker 2>telling me that Riley Reef is your swing tackle, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>that's about those guys should be. That's how you feel

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<v Speaker 2>out depth, right, Like, that's how you have an established

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<v Speaker 2>pecking order. That's how you have two capable starters. Then

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<v Speaker 2>you have your tackle, and then go ahead and draft

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<v Speaker 2>City So in the fourth round as a developmental tackle

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<v Speaker 2>because you like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Trades like that, that's that's your four Like, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you That's how a real team does this, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you're supposed to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead, they just threw darts. They just started throwing darts.

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<v Speaker 2>They signed Reef and Anderson, they draft so now they're

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<v Speaker 2>trading for Tyrone Wheatley and Vaderian Low who I like

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<v Speaker 2>both of their games for separate reasons. We can get

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<v Speaker 2>into that a little bit if we want. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, I'm sorry, but Tyrone, Wheatley and Vaderi

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<v Speaker 2>and Low are also dart throws. Neither one of those

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<v Speaker 2>guys is a sharp eeden starter on your offensive line

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<v Speaker 2>for any team. They're also lottery tickets. And all they

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<v Speaker 2>had to do was in free agency because look, I

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<v Speaker 2>will give them this, and I mean this, they did

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<v Speaker 2>a really good job with their first three picks in

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<v Speaker 2>the draft. I can't get on them too much. For

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Gonzales, Kean White and Marty Mapu, all three of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys can play. Was there a better way to

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<v Speaker 2>use those assets? And maybe you're still taken Zaliz in

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<v Speaker 2>the first and you get a tackle on Day two.

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<v Speaker 1>I even look early on day three, Evan, like Dwan

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<v Speaker 1>Jones has kind of being a star.

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<v Speaker 2>Was headed Dewan Jones. I need I need some Belichick

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<v Speaker 2>Macro truth serum on Dewan Jones. Why was Dewan Jones

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<v Speaker 2>off the Patriots?

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, it wasn't just them, He was off

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Boards But that's why I need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's I do think there's something there, But whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was which, by the way, I need to take

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling you about Dwan Jones in like October. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to it.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to it. So listen to me this time.

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<v Speaker 3>J C.

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<v Speaker 1>Latham, Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just like you had to do that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to. Well, because it's it's week to get

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<v Speaker 1>to it's we won. College football starts on Saturday. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to give you a reason to watch. My reason

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<v Speaker 1>being there's no reason to watch now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>There is reason. Whether it was Dwan Jones, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was Blake Freeland, whether it was Warren. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>were big Warren McClendon right from from Georgia guard antack

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Duncan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you had these guys that were tackled, that were

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<v Speaker 2>right so that we're not guards, that you're making a tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the mystery box. Well what could city so be

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<v Speaker 1>a big people moving right tackle. Okay, So like he

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<v Speaker 1>could be Dwan Jones or and I know Dewan Jones

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<v Speaker 1>went a little before him, but I think he went

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<v Speaker 1>after Ryland Right Andrews.

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<v Speaker 2>So they drafted Jake Andrews a pick or two before

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<v Speaker 2>Dewan Jones. And it's sorted by positions, so he sort

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<v Speaker 2>of drafted. When I say you, I mean the Patriots. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots drafted a backup center to one of their

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<v Speaker 2>best players.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jake Andrews went one oh seven, Dwan Jones went

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<v Speaker 1>one eleven, Chad Ryland went one twelve, and then City

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<v Speaker 1>So went one seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>So you drafted a backup center to a team captain,

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<v Speaker 2>a pillar of your current team when you had a

0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.720
<v Speaker 2>young satit you like on the roster, and Cody rus

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<v Speaker 2>Cody rusy and you drafted that over Dewan Jones, who

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<v Speaker 2>might not start in Cleveland this year just because they

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<v Speaker 2>have Conklin and uh, Worf's already not worth. So who's

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<v Speaker 2>there to the other tackle? I can't remember. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>coming to me, it's coming. It's on the tip of

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<v Speaker 2>my time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Jedrick Will's right, yes, yeah, yes, uh and warfs will

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<v Speaker 2>same same draft. I think two really good tackles Conklin

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<v Speaker 2>and now Will. So those guys are starters. But Dewan

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<v Speaker 2>Jones is going to be a starter in Cleveland at

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<v Speaker 2>some day. He'd start here right now, easily, day one,

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<v Speaker 2>starting right tackle. I I can't figure that one out.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't don't sit there and tell me that they

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<v Speaker 2>had no other options. Don't tell me that they had

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<v Speaker 2>no other option, that there was nothing else that they

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<v Speaker 2>could do, because that's baloney. There was There was talent available,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was in the draft or whether it was

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<v Speaker 2>in free agency. If they just spent a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more money on the tackle position, and then we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be in any of this mess. We wouldn't be worried

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<v Speaker 2>about the Eagles defensive front dominating the game in ten days,

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<v Speaker 2>and we wouldn't be worried about Bailey Zappi being on waivers.

0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Because if you had a proven.

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<v Speaker 1>Right tackle right now on your roster, or even just

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<v Speaker 1>a more high upside, high floor right the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I can sit here and say I can start Week

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<v Speaker 1>one right pencil the min I'm gonna say that because

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying Dewan Jones be the answer. He's not proven,

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<v Speaker 1>but sure he's there's enough there that I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have gone the free agency rode. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I keep saying proven. I means I would

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<v Speaker 2>have signed somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>I was Soto signed one draft one. I wanted both,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were talking about like Wan Soto for

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<v Speaker 1>no sign draft one s O d oh, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>both of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So then you have your five starters right that

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 2>you're you're locked in on the roster. You have your

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<v Speaker 2>top swing tackle, you have your top interior guy, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you have one or two spots for development guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight or nine is general the number or something like that.

0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.520
<v Speaker 1>They are at eleven, which is a Belichick era high.

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 1>By the way, they've never carried eleven guys on the

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<v Speaker 1>initial roster, and meanwhile they're at a Belichick low. I

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:54.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's Belichick lo. I have the numbers

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.200
<v Speaker 1>for the last ten years. Last ten years, fewest running

0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 1>backs they've carried his three. They did that once every

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>other year. It's been four.

0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, so you have one quarterback, which I and I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. People are gonna sit here and say, Evan,

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<v Speaker 2>what difference does it make they're on the practice squad.

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 2>They can elevate them on game day, they can sign

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 2>them to the fifty three after they put some guys

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.560
<v Speaker 2>on ir like who cares? And I get that, but

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 2>that's not the point. The point is that right tackle

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<v Speaker 2>is still a major question mark on this team. It

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 2>was a major question mark last year. It was a

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 2>major question market going into the offseason, and they did

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 2>absolutely nothing to solve the problem. And now we're here

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 2>where Bailey Zappi has to be waived. You have to

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 2>carry two running backs on the initial fifty three man roster.

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.440
<v Speaker 2>You have to carry two tight ends, which I really

0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:43.639
<v Speaker 2>don't think they ultimately wanted to do, honestly, because I

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 2>think they're gonna play a lot of twelve and I

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 2>think they're gonna want some depth at that position. So

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 2>you have to do all these things, and all of

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.439
<v Speaker 2>this could have been avoided if you had just given

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Andre Dillard three million dollars more than what the Tennessee

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Titans offered him, all of it could have been avoided.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the story today and yesterday in the shock

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 2>wave on Tuesday, on cutdown Day is that the Patriots

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 2>cut Bailey's appy, and that sticker shock is legit. But

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 2>the real crux of this whole thing is that their

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 2>offensive line is a complete mystery even to the people

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.479
<v Speaker 2>running the team. And that's why they made two trades

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 2>for tackles fourteen days before the start of the season,

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:30.360
<v Speaker 2>and that's why they're carrying a Belichick or a high

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 2>eleven offensive lineman on the roster. And that's why your

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 2>backup quarterback was just put on waivers the other day.

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah so, but at the same time, at the same time,

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and Bill said this when you put it because because

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 1>he gets out, Oh, I din't put this player in

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the prak squad. When you wave a player, you never know.

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.120
<v Speaker 1>You may think you know, but you never know. Right,

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:55.199
<v Speaker 1>they were okay potentially losing Bailey's appy. Doesn't mean they

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:56.679
<v Speaker 1>wanted to lose him. Doesn't mean they wanted to get

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>rid of him. They clearly didn't. They brought him back. Right,

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.399
<v Speaker 1>They were okay losing Bailey's appy.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I say that it's not about Bailey's

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<v Speaker 2>appy because quite frankly, no, but I was okay with

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 2>them losing.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. But it is a little bit

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>because the theories about and maybe he's got put to

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:16.479
<v Speaker 1>rest Thursday night, Friday night in Nashville, but the theories

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>about Mac being on a super short leash, and we

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 1>could see Bailey's appy by the end of September and

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>it might end up being his if they really felt

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 1>there was a chance Bailey Zappy was going to start

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.959
<v Speaker 1>in meaningful games for them this year. They would not

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.160
<v Speaker 1>have been comfortab. They shouldn't have been comfortable potentially losing him,

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and they were comfortable potentially.

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 2>I guess my point when I say that, like, I

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>don't care about Bailey's Zappy, not to be like mean

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 2>about it, but is that I think that a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of them, you think it's a bigger deal. Why

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 1>why they had to wave him in the fastest way?

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 2>And I also think that bailey'sz appies are a dime

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 2>a dozen. I think that Colt McCoy, I think that

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Will Greer. I think Brett freakin' Ripping probably could come

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 2>in here and back up Mac Jones just as well.

0:25:57.840 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I that's look, that's what I think. I already gave

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:03.880
<v Speaker 1>this giving other shows.

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Who had have been a preseason Will Greener Bailey's Appy.

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know how I know real good last

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 1>game it wasn't okay, uh I Well, Nathan Rourke was

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>the guy I was looking for former Nathan. What is

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Nathan Rourke notable for?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Ask me, ask me what you're about to ask me.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the difference between Nathan Rourke and Bailey's appen.

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Nathan Rourke has won the Canadian Football League Most Outstanding Player. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the yeah, he he tore it up for the

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Why do you not know these things because

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you have a life? The difference the thing and here

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>people on both sides of the Zappi argument hate me

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Evan because we've talked about this. Right, you either have

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 1>to think he's the starter who should push mac Jones,

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>or you have to think he doesn't belong in the league.

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I am where I have been on Bailey Zappie since

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:49.360
<v Speaker 1>day one. He's a good backup quarter He's probably somewhere

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>between the thirtieth and fortieth best quarterback in the league.

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>If he's your starter, it's not great. There's he's in

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>terms of going to an emergency starter, he'd probably beat

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>towards the top of that list. Yeah, but he's one

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of the better backups and there is value in having

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 1>a good backup and being a good backup quarterback does matter,

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and that is why I would rather they not have

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>cut him and burned a rookie contract on a guy

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>that is a good backup quarterback. So that's where But

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm also not under the illusion that he's going to

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>come in here and take over the team.

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, and that's the one thing that I will

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 2>say that makes it about Bailey zappy to me is

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>the rookie contract. I hate the idea that they just

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>ripped up his rookie contract because, on the one hand,

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 2>now they're a year to year with him, right, That's

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.120
<v Speaker 2>just the nuts and bolts of it. He's a year

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>to year player whether he stays on the practice squad

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>or he signs back to the fifty three, unless they

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 2>give him a multi year deal when they sign, which

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 2>is possible. But bottom line is he's a year to

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 2>year guy now, and he was anyways because his money

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 2>wasn't guaranteed in year three and four. And I get

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 2>all that, but they had team control on the player

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>for year three and four. So now, and let's just

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>play this out. You mentioned him like, you know, spot

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>starting and things like that and being effective. Let's say,

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:04.160
<v Speaker 2>and I hope this doesn't happen. We don't wish injuries,

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.640
<v Speaker 2>so don't come at us about this. But what happens

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 2>if the exact same scenario happens that happened last year

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 2>where Mac gets hurt, and I'm not saying that Mac

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 2>is playing poorly. Like, let's take that out element out

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Now, Mack gets hurt, Mac cannot play. Mac gets hurt,

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>and Bailey's Appy comes in for two games, keeps the

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>team afloat, wins them a couple of games to keep

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the train on the tracks of the season, Mac comes

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 1>back whatever. So basically what happened last year, exactly what

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>happened last year minus the Bears game.

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Is Bailey's APPI going to get paid in the offseason? Well,

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>because he's a free agent now.

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So this year he wouldn't because he's gonna be an ERFA.

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>If you have less than three years of team controller

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>what's called an exclusive rights free agent, which bass in

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>the RFA. Now he would be at the end of

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the season. He don't leave two years, so he's not

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>an unrestricted free agent. Oh, currently, when if his deal expires, right,

0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>his practice squad deal aspires, they would have to sign

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>to a SUTs deal right in order to have him

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:06.719
<v Speaker 1>under contract. Yes, right, But but if they didn't, he

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>would be an e r F A Okay.

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't.

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So as long as he's on the practice squad.

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>He's a free agent if he's on the press. Let's

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>say some team loses their quarterback in Week one, Right,

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they can go and he doesn't have to sign. Yeah,

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>but they could go off Bailey offered contract sign uh

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>because if he's going to sign and then get cut

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>when the quarterbacks come, there's a number of reasons he

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>might not. But like I mean, he's a free agent.

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I would be looking for the first exit door. Fair.

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>He is a free agent as we sit here today.

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Bailey's appy. A team could call and offer they can't

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>off from practice squad spot. They have to offer him

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.719
<v Speaker 1>a fifty three man rocks spot. But they could do that.

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>That is true until if and when he signs to

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the fifty three. Once he signs to the fifty three,

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>if that's a one year deal, at the end of

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the year, he would become an eerf So if he

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>if he finishes the year on the fifty three, okay, crap,

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>if he finished on the practice squad, it would be

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>futures deal, which is a free agent. Right. Well, if

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.239
<v Speaker 1>you can't sign a guy to a futures deal from

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>your fifty three, so he would become a free agent.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>He would become what's called an E RFA exclusive rights

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>free agent, which means only the Patriots can negotiate with him.

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>For other teams to negotiate with him, the Patriots basically

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>have to give up rights. They essentially they have to

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>without putting them get I didn't realize that we're so

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>very bogged down in this cause this is what we

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>do BRFA. I didn't realize that he was going to

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>become an RF. E RFA is two years of experience

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and less after three years, And this is where he'd

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>essentially be like an undrafted for agent because UDFA contracts

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>for three years, then he becomes an RFA. That's trick

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>gets really interesting if you get to this point, if

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>he's shown some promise, you never see our restricted free

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>agent quarterbacks. You never see that. If you drafted a quarterback,

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>if you don't think he's good enough, you've cut him

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:54.719
<v Speaker 1>generally at that point, and then it becomes can you

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>tender him? Would a team give up a second round

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>pick for Bailey's appy problem that then not that long

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>ago a team get up a second round pick for

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Garoppolo, And how that got they're still paying for

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>They're still paying for you. What have they done?

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>He's better than him at the time.

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.959
<v Speaker 1>At the time Jimmy Garoppolo was traded, he had started

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>two games, won them both played part of a third game. Yeah,

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>what what is Bailey Zappy done?

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>You've already thought this out.

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I know I've given this takeabok.

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>This is your your sick o the point.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>But whatever they're unless they it's not. I just think

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>he's overrated. Unless they signed Jimmy to a multi year deal.

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>When they signed him back to the fifty three, he

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>is now year to year. That is the reality of it.

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>So that's the Bailey Zappy offensive line take off the

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>top of the show. I just I want to continue

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>to hammer home the point that the biggest issue of

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>all of this is that the Patriots did not do

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>enough to address the tackle position in the off season.

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And and now they're overcommentation.

0:31:56.120 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and you have to remember that this was like

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 2>the injuries thing bugs me too, Like people are, oh, well,

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Riley Reef got hurt, Like, what do you want them

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 2>to do? This was already going off the rails before

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Riley Reef got hurt. Okay, Riley Reef was already moved

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>inside to guard. By the time Riley Reef got hurt,

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>they already had determined that Riley Reef couldn't play tackle anymore,

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 2>so he's already moved inside to guard Connor McDermott's mia.

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>He was also playing poorly going into that injury, so

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>they knew that this. We all knew this was a

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 2>problem already before anybody got hurt. So that's where the

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Patriots are at. And now they have the Eagles, who

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 2>had the second rated pass rushing football last year in

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>terms of pressure rate. The Jets have had the seventh.

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 2>The Dolphins were not in the top twenty, but they

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>have a good bookend ed rushers. I think they're gonna

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 2>be better this year.

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<v Speaker 1>In the past game they were well, they didn't have

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Bradley Chubb for the.

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Start of the year, and then the number one rated

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 2>pass rushing football last year, the Dallas Cowboys. In your

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>first month, so you have one two and seven and

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 2>another team that I think is potentially going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the top half of the league as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you holding out any hope that we get out

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<v Speaker 1>there Week one? Riley Reef of he's healthy at right guard,

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Mike Wint right tackle or Antonio Maffi and Mike and

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Winno on the right side.

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<v Speaker 2>There I'm holding out a little bit of hope. But

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<v Speaker 2>he did play a snap of right tackle. Why why

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<v Speaker 2>why make all of these this? Why jump through all

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 2>these hoops just to be moving Mike on went to

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<v Speaker 2>right tackle?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're worried about the backups, because you know that

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>if you lose trend, you're right.

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 2>But if you worry about the backups, like can you

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 2>keep like two layers of depth? Like why do you

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<v Speaker 2>have to keep six?

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Because because they're gonna do essentially what you said, they're

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna figure it out. Like I don't Tyrone Wheatley daring Low.

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I doubt both those guys are on the team for

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>seventeen games. They're essentially going to have a September's an

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>extension of the price.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 2>So here's the other.

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have a competition and one of those guys

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>will stick. Yeah, those moves make more sense when you

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>look at it through the lens that they brought those

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<v Speaker 1>guys into be backups rather than compete for the starting trick.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, But at the same time, like this is

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<v Speaker 2>the other my ang on, this is it because I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to work down the roster and then we're gonna

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 2>take some calls, I promise. But running back, they have

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 2>two running backs on the roster, Tome Montgomery and Kevin

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Harris are on the practice squad. They traded Pierre.

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<v Speaker 1>Strong, who, Yeah, I didn't like that trade.

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they were to cut him anyways, Like maybe that's

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>where that was heading. I know that's always the adage,

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 2>right of Oh they were, they just were gonna cut

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 2>him anyways. I didn't like the trade either. I did

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 2>not because I disliked Tyrone Wheatley. I think Tyrone Wheatley

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 2>has some really exciting trades. From an athletic standpoint, I

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 2>think he's an athletic kid. I think he's got good

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 2>foot speed. I think he can block in the run

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>game using his positional blocking with the foot speed. There's

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 2>things to like about his preseason film, absolutely, but I

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 2>didn't like it for two reasons. One, I really didn't

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 2>think Kevin Harris or J. J. Taylor were rosterable running backs,

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 2>so Pierre Strong was the one.

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<v Speaker 1>JJ. I thought you had a really good I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a kid there.

0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that ultimately, unless you're like Darren sprolls quick

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 2>and fast at that size, it's just.

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Really tough, you see, fund right, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>A good unless you're one of those guys that's just

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<v Speaker 2>different in terms of how they move on the field

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 2>at five foot six, it's really hard. So I think

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 2>JJ Taylor is like is like the football equivalent of

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.399
<v Speaker 2>a of a four A player. You know, he's right

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 2>in the middle. So Pierre Strong to me, felt like

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<v Speaker 2>the one guy that had the talent and the upside,

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<v Speaker 2>but that really the talent to be a rosterable running

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<v Speaker 2>back as your third running back. And the other reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I didn't really like the trade. Where's your speed

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.919
<v Speaker 2>now out of the backfield? Now you can talk?

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>You hope it's time Montgomery.

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Your other speed's on injured reserve right now, right with Taekwon,

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 2>and who knows what's gonna happen with that. And so

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>really you're looking at in terms of bringing guys that

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 2>move differently in this offense, that have that explosive gear.

0:35:56.600 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>It's essentially Pop Douglas and that's it. Like Kendrick Bourne

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 2>and I think does a little bit, but I don't

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 2>know if it's really truly on that elite level. It's

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's good. You know, Kendrick Bourne is the

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 2>guy that's got good burst and good energy with the

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 2>football in his hands. But that's what I was hoping,

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 2>holding out hope with Pierre Strong. It's not that you

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 2>necessarily need him to carry the ball twenty times and

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 2>be this bell cow running back, but four or five

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 2>touches a game on a screen or on an outside

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 2>run or a toss player, just something to get him

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 2>out in space. He was the one guy that was

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 2>dangerous in space with the ball in his hands, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like they lost it a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>in this trade.

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>We have some news.

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh what's the news, Ian Rappaport.

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<v Speaker 1>The Patriots have claimed former Panthers quarterback Matt Corral.

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 2>So we have a new quarterback.

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 1>We have a new After all of that, we have

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>a new so let the plot that get oh wait

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>in eight weight. So they claimed him on waivers, so

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that means he's on the fifty three. So that's your backup.

0:36:57.880 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 2>That's your backup quarterback, Matt Corral.

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's the roster spot.

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh by Taekwon Thorn probably what I go back you

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 2>said that I couldn't call it a downfall.

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.959
<v Speaker 1>Of Bailey's appy. I'm calling it a downfall. You're gonna

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>now I not only better than Ma Correll.

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 2>You got cut and you got replaced like they're giving

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Ma Correl a fifty three min roster spot over you.

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 2>That's what's happening here. That's shocking. I mac Correl's been

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<v Speaker 2>a disaster in the NFL. Now, granted he's been in Carolina,

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>right in Carolina.

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh well no, he he broke his ankle in the

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>preseason game here last year and hasn't played the rookie

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>last year. That was it. Yeah, but he's I don't know,

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been anything in the end. He hasn't played

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, but he played in the preseason this year. Yeah.

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that that that's interesting. Well we'll give some

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 2>mac correl takes here in a second, but let's get

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 2>to the phones. John is in Louisiana. John, thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>hanging on. What's up? John? Hey? Hello, hello, Hey there

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:04.439
<v Speaker 2>you are all right?

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<v Speaker 4>So uh Evan, first off, ausseems like you are thinking

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 4>that victory left one that Zabie seever.

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Can't help it.

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 4>But uh yeah, I already know. So I got a

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 4>question about the left tackle situation. So you said a

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<v Speaker 4>free agency would say, do you think that would have

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<v Speaker 4>affected the contract that Jabrill Severs and everybody else isn't

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 4>brought back?

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't because I think that you can find

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.320
<v Speaker 2>cap space in a million different ways. You can stagger

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 2>contracts in a million different ways. So I would I

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<v Speaker 2>have given like an Orlando Brown Mike McGlinchey contract to

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<v Speaker 2>a tackle and been able to afford all the rest

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>of it? Like, maybe not U, but I think that

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 2>there was options out there, like a Diller, like a Whiley,

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 2>like those players at that level that would have been

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 2>better than what you got and would have been able

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 2>to spread the money around just the same.

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<v Speaker 4>So in as far as the draft, who would you

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<v Speaker 4>have placed if you would have drafted somebody? I know

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 4>you said you like the first, but like I'm I'm

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:07.359
<v Speaker 4>kind of confused. Who would you have rather not take?

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<v Speaker 2>PREDENTI someone at the Dwan Jones from Ohio State. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have taken Blake Freelan from BYU. I would have

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 2>taken Jalen Duncan, the Maryland guy, any of the Day

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 2>three picks, literally any of.

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Them except Pop Douglas. Oh yeah, of course, except Pop Douglas.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure take the receiver for the early day three the

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 1>late day three picks. You're telling me that this team

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>needs Jake Andrews for what? Like, I'm not trying to

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 1>pick on Jake Andrews. I'm just if David Andrews gets hurt,

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>then you're in trouble anyways, right, regardless of who his

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>backup is. But is Jake Andrews at this stage of

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.800
<v Speaker 1>his career significantly better than Russi or James Ferrence. I

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>don't think so, not based off what we've seen over

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the summer. I would also say that I like Mafi.

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I think Mafi is going to be a starting caliber

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>guard the way that they play football here, he'll be.

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>He'll be a starting caliber guy next year. But you

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<v Speaker 1>had a more immediate need at tackle, so that those

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>are the picks that I would have replaced him. I

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>think that's that's the obvious way to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, appreciate you guys, Thanks.

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 2>John, Thanks for the call. All right, Patty is an

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 2>agua on what's up? Patty?

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 5>Tough guys? Hey, So I got something for each of you.

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<v Speaker 5>First off, the college football Minute, for actually half a minute.

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 5>I'll make it quick Evan Alex, Yeah, you're gonna watch.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 5>I know you're watching college football this weekend. Of course,

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 5>pay attention Boston College wide receiver Joe Grifton junior from

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 5>my hometown, from my alma mart Or Springfield Central High School,

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 5>the home of Champion. This kid's going to be a stud.

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 5>He's not coming out this is coming year, but he's

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 5>eligible in twenty twenty five. He's like the perfect, the

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 5>prototype guy that's going to replace Davante Partner. Hopefully, I'd

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 5>love to see it, all right, So, Evan, the one

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 5>thing I'll disagree with you with was I was hoping

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 5>that they would like you. I know, you said you

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 5>want them to dry tackle and free agency. I'm with

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 5>you with those guys with Dwan Jones, and I was

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 5>big on Blake Freeland. I mean, I wanted them to

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 5>get young guys and develop them and into this system.

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 5>And I mean, both your tackles are going to be

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 5>gone next year unless they extend Brown. But that's kind

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 5>of a crap you because you never know what you're

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 5>gonna get with them, you know. So I'm just I

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 5>feel the frustration. I'm right there with you. Hopefully I

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.800
<v Speaker 5>do have fate that Billy O'Brien and Clem are gonna

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 5>piece this together. I'm not gonna take too much out

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 5>of Week one. I never do anyway. But I mean,

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 5>as long as Mac comes out of the game healthy,

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm good, and that's all I care about. And that's

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 5>all I got, guys.

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, Patti, thanks for the call. Look, I don't

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>want to. I know I'm sounding like alarmists when it

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 2>comes to the offensive line Situationian, I think it's workable.

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:53.839
<v Speaker 2>I just think that a lot of the things that

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 2>have happened this summer, and that it happened on cutdown day.

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a lot of these things happened because

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 2>as they put themselves in this in a hole, like

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 2>they created a hole and now they're trying to get

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 2>themselves out of it, and now we have all this

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 2>cat you know, uh roster gymnastics and jockeying and all

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>this different stuff going on, and I feel like a

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of this was so avoidable if they had just

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 2>addressed it with a real answer, like instead of throwing

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>blind darts at the board and saying, well, hopefully one

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 2>of these guys is serviceable, they could have just went

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 2>out and made a real move and solved the problem.

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>And that's where we're at. I'm gonn take this last call,

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 2>and then Alex you got to give your your mac

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 2>correl take. We've talked about mac corral a little bit

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 2>off the air.

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm learning about Matt Corrow right now. Do you know

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>he wants try to fight Wing Gretzky's son.

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Why is that relevant?

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Is it not?

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 2>All right? Let's take Tony in Canada. Let's up Tony.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, hi guys. I have a comment, And then I question,

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:59.280
<v Speaker 6>I guess the comment and is regarding regarding the Patriots

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 6>as I think that this year, my prediction is they'll

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 6>be struggling to make fourth place, they'll be out of

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 6>the playoffs. And I think this year, at best, they'll

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 6>do as well as he did last year or lose

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 6>a few other games. And the question is regarding Bill Belichick,

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 6>and I know, like, yeah, I mean, things didn't work

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 6>out with the tight end or not tight end, sorry,

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 6>the offensive tackle position. But Belichick really hasn't spent a

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 6>lot of money this year, so in your opinion, like

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 6>what is the what is Belichick trying to do? Like

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 6>he's obviously not signing players he didn't go crazy this

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 6>year like he did a few years back. What's the plan? Like,

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 6>what is he planning to do? What do you speculate

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 6>on is he planning on maybe possibly extending a lot

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.320
<v Speaker 6>of the other players, or what's the reason? I guess

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 6>what do you think is the reason for it? For

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 6>the way he's he's been managing the team this so

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 6>far this year.

0:43:56.920 --> 0:44:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for the call, Tony, I honestly know how you

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:02.760
<v Speaker 2>feel about this, Alex, so just speak for myself.

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, second week in a row. Apparently they're trying to

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 1>get my attention on the sportshop right now because Felger

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:08.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know how waiver claims were.

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Uh. I don't think Belichick's managing the

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 2>roster any differently than he always has. Like that's that's

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 2>the thing that I think that maybe doesn't get talked

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 2>about enough or gets missed or something like that. Like

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 2>other than the free agency spending spree in twenty twenty one,

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 2>this is how they've always done it, Like they have built.

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Their whole thing is conservatives, spending solid, miiddle class, build

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 2>from within, draft and develop like that. That's that's their

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. Like the twenty twenty one free agency class

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:45.839
<v Speaker 2>was the outlier. That's not the norm. Now. Sometimes they

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 2>do go out and make like one splash, you know,

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 2>a Stefan Gilmour, a Darrell Revis Uh obviously didn't work out,

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 2>but like a daily as Thomas right, like they they've

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 2>done that in a vacuum. But going out and spending

0:44:58.160 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 2>a ton of money in free agency, like they did

0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:01.479
<v Speaker 2>it a couple of years ago. That was the one

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 2>time they did it, and other than that, they've never

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 2>done it again or done it in the past. So

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 2>their methodical approach is exactly how they've always done it,

0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 2>and I there's obviously some legitimate reasons for it, Like

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 2>there's some real sound reasoning for it. I think the

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 2>biggest being that the real sweet spot is by drafting

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 2>players and being good in the draft and then developing

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:31.839
<v Speaker 2>from within. That's how they built the teams in their

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>early two thousands for the most part. Like that's how

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 2>you build your roster for sustainability in the NFL. But

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, to the caller, like if you're expecting them

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 2>to go out and spend a ton of money on

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:45.319
<v Speaker 2>free agents, like you got the wrong team, Like that's

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 2>not going to be who they are, at least not

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 2>as long as Belichick is here. If that's truly the

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 2>trigger man of all of this, Like that's never how

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 2>they've operated, that's never how they are. All right, Uh,

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 2>let's let's get your macarel take Alex because you obviously

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 2>remember him from Old it's a whole lot more than

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I do.

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>So Matt Corral was a really interesting quarterback going into

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 1>the draft last year because his career has been a

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 1>roller coaster. Came out of Southern California in high school,

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>was a five star recruit US Army, All American, all

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff, Like this is a guy who's usc UF.

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember if Alabama was interested in him. Ends

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 1>up going to Old Miss, where they had another top

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>ranked recruit in Jordan Tamu, who people might remember. I

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>think he was here on the practice squad for like

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a week once. But really roller coaster his first few

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 1>years in college. Struggled to get playing time as a

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>freshman as a red shirt freshman, started to play a

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.359
<v Speaker 1>little more, but was really a run first quarterback his

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>junior year, there were so lean Kiffin comes his junior

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:50.280
<v Speaker 1>year in twenty twenty, and there's flashes, but he turned

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the ball over a ton and then in twenty twenty

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 1>one he started to put it together. Thirty three hundred yards,

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty touchdowns, five interceptions, ran for another six hundred and

0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 1>fourteen yards eleven touch downs. He was a layane kick like, well,

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Lane Kiffen wants his quarterback to be Matt Corral. And

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 1>then that was sort of a down year for quarterbacks

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and people start talking about is Matt Carral first round pick?

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 1>And it was kind of trending that way. And then

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:17.359
<v Speaker 1>he hurt his ankle in the bowl game. A lot

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 1>of people were like, he's not. It was kind of

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:20.759
<v Speaker 1>consensus he wasn't gonna play in the ball game. This

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 1>is guy who's gonna be a first round pick. A

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>quarterback played in the ball game, which people like, this

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:26.879
<v Speaker 1>is great. Look at that leadership, like he's definitely gonna

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>be a first round pick. Now. No, But that's the thing,

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:31.479
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like when those guys right.

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 2>At the fact that people like believe that.

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think teams look at that. Oh, you're willing

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>to play the ball game even though your first round pick.

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>You can't. You love football, you care about your team,

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:43.879
<v Speaker 1>your teammates. Hurt his ankle, and it then struggled during

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the pre draft process, goes to Carolina. Last year, the

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Panthers actually traded up with the Patriots to get him.

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>The Patriots used those picks later on Bailey Zappi and

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Marte Maphu. So that's that's a good trade. That's a

0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:00.120
<v Speaker 1>very good trade. And then I remember he was so

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:01.759
<v Speaker 1>they saw him in joint practices and we know this,

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots like the guys that they see in joint practices.

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think he's very good here last year that

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 1>week and then early on in that preseason game he

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>suffered I said ankle injury earlier as wrong was a

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Liz frank injury. That's his foot foot, and missed the

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 1>whole season. So this summer I think he was kind

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 1>of hit and miss. He was never gonna start, right,

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>They have Bryce Young and he was always going to

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:26.360
<v Speaker 1>be the guy. But really athletic, he's not. He's a

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 1>different kind of quarterback than what they've had. I'm trying

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to find his height weight. I know he's on the smaller,

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>on the smaller side, moves around a lot, makes plays

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>out of structure, Definitely a threat with his legs. He

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>can be a reid option guy, but the accuracy is

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>an issue. He does have a bit of a quick trigger.

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't handle pressure super well, so kind of an

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>anti Mac Jones. I don't think the things he's good

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 1>at are he's as good at as the like Mac Jones'

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>best traits. But he's a he's a different kind of

0:48:57.600 --> 0:48:59.840
<v Speaker 1>passer and it's gonna be interesting to see what the

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>for him.

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 2>So I what I remember of him is is mainly

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 2>you telling me to watch Alabama ole Miss a couple

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:08.799
<v Speaker 2>of years ago when it looked like ole Miss was

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 2>actually going to be able to go toe to toe

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:11.720
<v Speaker 2>with Alabama.

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>So that that year, that was that twenty twenty one

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>year where he had a year in Kiffin's offense. Yeah,

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 1>he was like a heisman he was a Heisman candidate. Yeah, No,

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>he was eismen get I'm trying to remember who. They

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:24.239
<v Speaker 1>had a really good receiver on that team too, I'm

0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to remember who was.

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 2>So the thing about ole Miss's offense that's that's important

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 2>to mention is that they are they are a modern, modern,

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 2>modern scheme under Lane Kiffin. They're an air raid team.

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Is Jonathan Mingos, Yeah, they do a bunch of crazy

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff offensively, like we're talking about motions options like a

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>want to say it's as new age as you get.

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Read option, they like never punt right, like they're just

0:49:56.239 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 2>like this aggressive pedal to the medal spread everything that

0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 2>you hear about, like you know, where's football going, and

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 2>like new age football like Ole Miss does all of it.

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.760
<v Speaker 2>So in some respects, it was a little bit difficult

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 2>when I did, like do a little bit of an

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:16.080
<v Speaker 2>EVL on some of those quarterbacks just thinking that maybe

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:20.680
<v Speaker 2>they would draft one. It was tyficult to project how

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Matt Corrale is going to play in an NFL system

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:28.840
<v Speaker 2>because Ole Miss is just very, very unique and weird.

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 2>So that was a big part of it. But the

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 2>one thing that I will say about Matt Corral and

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 2>let me be clear that this is one hundred and

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:45.480
<v Speaker 2>ten competition for Bailey Zappy, not competition for Mac Jones,

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 2>but with Matt Corral I think, and you you know,

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 2>grieve me or not, Alex, I think that Mat Corel

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:56.319
<v Speaker 2>has more tools at his disposal than a guy like

0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Bailey Zappy, Like I think he's a little bit bigger.

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I think he's got a bigger arm. I think he's

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:04.439
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more mobile, not necessarily, like a little

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 2>bit like I think Billy Zappi's got decent elusiveness in

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:09.160
<v Speaker 2>the pocket and like he's pretty light on his feet

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:11.239
<v Speaker 2>in the pocket. But Coral can run, you know, with

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:15.839
<v Speaker 2>the football, like in designed run fashion. So what this

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:17.960
<v Speaker 2>looks like to me is that they have these two

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks and Mac and Zappi. And we talked about this,

0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 2>and I think this is why a lot of people

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 2>latched to Malie Cunningham was because they don't really have

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 2>like the toolsy, developmental upside guy, right, Like, they don't

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 2>have that guy. And I don't know if mat Correll

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:35.880
<v Speaker 2>is ever going to be anything more than than a

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:39.360
<v Speaker 2>journeyman backup. I don't think so. But he does have

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:44.919
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more of that athleticism gene that everybody's

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.799
<v Speaker 2>clamoring for all. You know, the teams that don't have

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:51.879
<v Speaker 2>a Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen Mahomes type of player, that's

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 2>what everybody wants. That's not ma Correl. Mac Correl is

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 2>a I think a designed runner more than he is

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:01.360
<v Speaker 2>like a scrambler and a or a out of structure playmaker.

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 2>But he's got some mobility, and he's got a bigger

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 2>arm than Zappy, and he's got some of those tools

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 2>that everybody is clamoring for. So in a lot of ways,

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting because I expected them to be

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:19.880
<v Speaker 2>looking for a more stable, experienced veteran option, like a

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Colt McCoy type of option, or you kind of know

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:26.279
<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna get. Mac Correll is another is a

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:29.360
<v Speaker 2>ball of clay like mac Correll is a developmental player.

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:33.879
<v Speaker 2>He is I think, and again, you know, feel free

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 2>to disagree with me. If they had to thrust somebody

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 2>into a to a game, yeah, I think it's Bailey Zappy.

0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:43.320
<v Speaker 2>I still don't think that you would put mac Corel

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 2>in a game. I get, you know, picking out the

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:47.960
<v Speaker 2>fact that like he has to learn the system and

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:49.840
<v Speaker 2>like I'll get integrated and all that kind of stuff.

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I just mean in general, I don't really look at

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:57.840
<v Speaker 1>mac Correll as like a stable steady like Brian Hoyer. Backup, So,

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Matt Correll is, remember when we were going into the

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 1>draft and every there was that take that a lot

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>of people had that was like, oh, look at what

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles did with Jalen Hurts. They had Carson Wentz,

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:12.320
<v Speaker 1>but they still took Jalen Hurts in the second round.

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Is like a project, right, and I met, we got

0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:16.400
<v Speaker 1>blue in the face telling people that guy does not

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>exist in this draft. That might be Matt Corrall. Matt

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Corrall might be the this guy's got a ton of tools.

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Let's see what we can turn him into.

0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 7>Guy.

0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he's not as good as challenging.

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 1>He's not as good as Jalen Hurts.

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 2>No, but he wasn't. Like he wasn't as good as

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Jailen Hurts in college, and he's not as good now.

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm no, he wasn't as good as Jalen Hurts.

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't as good as Oklahoma Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>at Alabama.

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Was limited as a passer.

0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:43.439
<v Speaker 1>People forget what Lincoln Riley did for Jalen Hurts.

0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, he doesn't hurt everybody, so that's true. I just

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:48.920
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting to me that this is the path that

0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:50.840
<v Speaker 2>they took because I think a lot of the reporting

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 2>out there, and I'm not like bashing on the reports

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:54.279
<v Speaker 2>or anything, but a lot of the reporting out there,

0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:57.520
<v Speaker 2>and and my indication would be, let's go after a

0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Colt McCoy. Let's go after like a backup that's like

0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 2>a steady presence that can come in and you know

0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 2>somebody that's like a little bit better than Trace mcsorly, right,

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 2>like basically that kind of guy that is not this guy.

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Macarel is an athlete. Ma Correl is a developmental prospect,

0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 2>and uh, it'll be interesting to see what becomes of him.

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't think that you're thinking much of

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:22.719
<v Speaker 2>it right now. The other thing that I would say

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 2>about this that I find a little bit interesting. Now

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:29.840
<v Speaker 2>it costs nothing to claim a guy on waivers and

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:30.920
<v Speaker 2>then he gotta pay him.

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Right, so they Now it's funny for all this stuff

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:34.640
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about the rookie contract, they now have

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 1>a quarter They now have a contract on quarterback on

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:38.719
<v Speaker 1>a rookie contract from the same draft is.

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 2>For the purposes of facilitation, because that's what I do here.

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes, Why not Trey Lance, Like why if youn't have

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:50.879
<v Speaker 1>to give up a draft pick?

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 2>But if you were gonna do this, you didn't have

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:55.439
<v Speaker 2>to give up a draft pick. He but Trai Lance

0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 2>is just enough. Draftick trailiance is just better mac Correl.

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I also wonder if they thought Trey Lance was you wonder.

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I nothing in Matt Corrall, like, yeah, he hurt his

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:09.600
<v Speaker 1>foot last year. I don't think you look at him

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and you say, here's the guy whose growth has been hindered.

0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I think in Trey Lance, you look at him as

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a guy and and you know, did the Niners ruin him? Basically?

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Is he passed? I also return.

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 2>So the reason why I brought this up is because

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 2>my real theory on it is that I think that

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 2>they looked at Trey Lance and they said that guy

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 2>could be looked at as a real competition for Mac Jones.

0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 2>And I do think that there's something to be said.

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not totally in on the conspiracy that Bailey z

0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Appy was cut as a message to Mac Jones. Yeah,

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily think that, but I definitely think that

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 2>they want to make sure that there is no question,

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:49.840
<v Speaker 2>there's no question who the starting quarterback of the team is,

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 2>and if you bring in a guy like Trey Lance,

0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be He's gonna be there.

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I honestly my thought was, is this maybe Lane Kiffin

0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:00.760
<v Speaker 1>and we know he's like indirectly in the Belichick with Saban.

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I wonder who knows what his relationship was with Bill

0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:05.759
<v Speaker 2>O'Brien too. It might they might have a relationship as well.

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Well they I would think they wouldn't. The other thing

0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:10.719
<v Speaker 1>about it is Corral. I don't know how much carry

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:13.719
<v Speaker 1>over there it'd be here. But remember Bill O'Brien didn't

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 1>run his offense at Alabama.

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:16.200
<v Speaker 2>This was old.

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 1>When he was brought in, Mac Jones taught him the

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:23.359
<v Speaker 1>lane or the Steve Starkesian but it so he ran

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of his offense at Alabama, but then there

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of Alabama staples. But those Alabama staples

0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>came from mine Kiffn. I'm saying. So, I don't think, Matt.

0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Patriots playbook, even though it's kind

0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 1>of three or four degrees removed. Oh yeah, I don't

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:40.839
<v Speaker 1>think the Patriots playbook is going to be totally foreign.

0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Too, like the the RPO stuff, the empty stuff, like

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:46.000
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff.

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure as president, but I don't even say. I

0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>bet even some of the terminology there's going to be

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:52.239
<v Speaker 1>carryover from what he was doing at or from what

0:56:53.000 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Corral was doing at Ole Miss with Alabama's former offensive coordinator.

0:56:56.080 --> 0:57:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely so very interesting stuff. Matt Corrall on fifty

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 2>three man roster claimed by the Patriots. So on the

0:57:03.120 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 2>fifty three man roster now Bailey Zappi is still on

0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the practice squad. Malie Cunningham is still on the practice squad.

0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Last thing on Macrrel because we kind of broke down

0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Macarrel enough. I want to get to some of the

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:17.920
<v Speaker 2>other things about the initial roster. I want to go

0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 2>back to the what I just mentioned briefly. Week one,

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia comes to town. Who's the backup quarterback? Because in

0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 2>mcare on the.

0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Roster, I think, because you're not going to activate or

0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna elevate Bailey's Appy, why not and then

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 1>use the third quarterback or your quarterback.

0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Cratch mac Correl. He just would be Then why is

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 2>why is mat Corral here developed to develop them? Clearly?

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe I think it's Zappy. I think they

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:48.360
<v Speaker 1>have too many other guys that need to elevate. They're

0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna need to elevate a running back. They're probably gonna

0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:51.480
<v Speaker 1>need to elevate a tight end.

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they don't elevate the tight end.

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Mm I'd like maybe I just I think it's too.

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you can rule out we we thought it

0:58:01.440 --> 0:58:02.960
<v Speaker 1>was kind of a lock that Bailey's Appy was going

0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 1>to end up back on the fifty three at some point. Yeah,

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's out the window.

0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm I'm honestly, this whole thing is really surprising

0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:12.280
<v Speaker 2>to me. How I know, you don't want me to

0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 2>call it a downfall, but I'm calling it a downfall.

0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's on.

0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:19.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm so surprised that we've come this far though with it.

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I really am like to I take, like I said,

0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 2>you do, but to go aux, to go from what

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:27.920
<v Speaker 2>we saw on that Monday and I did against Chicago.

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>But chanting, is it really take the media thing out

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 1>of it if you're looking at it in the room, Like,

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>here's a guy that played really well in two games

0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 1>against two of the worst defenses in the league and

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 1>then struggled against the worst defense in the league and

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:46.040
<v Speaker 1>then had a bad summer. Take the whole Zappi fever

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>thing out of it. Yeah, there, it was not that

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 1>hot of a take to say you were worried about

0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 1>their backup quarterback situation. I don't know how much Matt

0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Correll fixes. It doesn't to me Matt Correll is a

0:58:56.920 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 1>ball of clubs. I think I think Bailey's Appy right

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 1>now is a better quarterback. Me too, That's what I'm saying.

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 1>So I had him, I had him ahead of Mat

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Corral in that draft. Zappi be the backup in a week.

0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 1>That's my point, on top of the fact that you

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:11.960
<v Speaker 1>have to get more integrated. All right, you might be right,

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you might be right, like I just think Bailey Zappi

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:17.080
<v Speaker 1>is the floor. Right Like Bailey Zappi is a floor backup.

0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Matt Corral is a guy that has a little bit

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:23.160
<v Speaker 1>of a ceiling, totally different blairer than Bailey Zappi. Jonathan

0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 1>emailed in and I wanted to weigh in on the

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Zappi thing, and uh, you know he he plays out

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:33.120
<v Speaker 1>a compelling argument here about how much Zappi has regressed

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and how you know, we really should be you know,

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about that more. I think, without any tools to

0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:41.240
<v Speaker 1>give guy a guy upside, you want a certain floor

0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to be happy with that spot, meaning the backup quarterback.

0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Last year he gave that, gave you that. This year,

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:48.880
<v Speaker 2>while a line player was a problem, he also took

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:51.880
<v Speaker 2>looks like he broke his mechanics, and he misses his

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 2>easy throws without pressure weights too often. If you have

0:59:54.800 --> 0:59:56.960
<v Speaker 2>both a low floor and a low ceiling, you have

0:59:57.000 --> 0:59:59.920
<v Speaker 2>an issue. We've obviously seen. You can do worse watching

1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Trace sorely shots fired. But Zappi's regression should hugely change

1:00:05.520 --> 1:00:07.520
<v Speaker 2>their view on him. So this is what I wanted

1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:11.720
<v Speaker 2>to address. Should do you? Is your view on Bailly

1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:14.959
<v Speaker 2>Zappi hugely different than it was a year ago.

1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:20.080
<v Speaker 1>M No, that's all the I said it. For a second.

1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:23.120
<v Speaker 1>He's a good backup quarterback. Yeah, he's not a starter.

1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:26.240
<v Speaker 1>He does belong in the league. He is a good

1:00:26.240 --> 1:00:29.800
<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback. Matt corral may or may not be an

1:00:29.880 --> 1:00:31.960
<v Speaker 1>NFL court He may be a starting NFL quarterback. He

1:00:32.000 --> 1:00:35.040
<v Speaker 1>may be an XFL starting quarterback. Like, I don't know yet.

1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll watch him in the XFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm saying, like, I have zero idea what

1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Matt Corrall is an NFL pass. I didn't think he

1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:43.960
<v Speaker 1>was great in joint practice last year. Yeah it was

1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:47.320
<v Speaker 1>two days. I'm not gonna give my whole opinion based

1:00:47.320 --> 1:00:49.640
<v Speaker 1>off that. Yeah, I didn't love him coming out of college.

1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought, all right, this is a guy that's really athletic.

1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what else he does. We'll see how

1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:56.480
<v Speaker 1>they coach him up. He's a lottery ticket.

1:00:56.840 --> 1:00:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how I feel. My opinion on Billy Zappie

1:00:59.280 --> 1:01:01.960
<v Speaker 2>has not changed. It all because of a couple things. One,

1:01:02.440 --> 1:01:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I think we're both in agreement that we kind of

1:01:04.320 --> 1:01:06.720
<v Speaker 2>thought this is who Bailey Zappi was all along, and

1:01:07.480 --> 1:01:09.560
<v Speaker 2>he was propped up in the situation that he was

1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:13.439
<v Speaker 2>in last year. Get as much as we destroy Matt

1:01:13.480 --> 1:01:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Patricia on this show, and we enjoy doing it based

1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:18.880
<v Speaker 2>off of what he put us through last year. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to give him a little bit of credit, Like

1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:24.080
<v Speaker 2>he made Bailey Zappi look look pretty good for two games, right, Like,

1:01:24.240 --> 1:01:25.680
<v Speaker 2>give him a little bit of credit for that. I

1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:28.120
<v Speaker 2>guess there's one thing that we can give him credit for.

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<v Speaker 2>But my feeling on Zappy hasn't changed. I think that

1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:34.760
<v Speaker 2>this is who he always has been. But I also

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<v Speaker 2>think at the same time that if you put him

1:01:37.680 --> 1:01:41.360
<v Speaker 2>with the starters right, starting offensive line, starting receivers, and

1:01:41.400 --> 1:01:44.000
<v Speaker 2>then you watered down Bill O'Brien's offense to make it

1:01:44.040 --> 1:01:47.160
<v Speaker 2>similar to what he ran last year, if you had

1:01:47.200 --> 1:01:49.160
<v Speaker 2>to start him in a game like the scenario we

1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:51.600
<v Speaker 2>laid out earlier where the exact same thing happens as

1:01:51.680 --> 1:01:54.280
<v Speaker 2>last year. I think that they could put a game

1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:58.600
<v Speaker 2>plan in for Bailey Zappi to be okay, just like

1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:01.439
<v Speaker 2>he was last year. So that's why my opinion hasn't

1:02:01.520 --> 1:02:04.080
<v Speaker 2>changed on him. I think he showed us this summer

1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:07.240
<v Speaker 2>what we already knew to an extent, but he proved

1:02:07.240 --> 1:02:09.440
<v Speaker 2>to us this summer that he is not a starting

1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:12.320
<v Speaker 2>quarterback that's capable of opening up the birth of your playbook,

1:02:12.400 --> 1:02:14.040
<v Speaker 2>right Like, he's not going to come in here and

1:02:14.120 --> 1:02:16.440
<v Speaker 2>run all these different things and change all these different

1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:18.080
<v Speaker 2>things at the line of scrimmage and make all these

1:02:18.200 --> 1:02:20.320
<v Speaker 2>checks and these audibles and all. That's not going to

1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:23.280
<v Speaker 2>be Bailey Zappi's game. But if you absolutely if you

1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 2>had to start Bailey Zappy in a game, and you

1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:28.080
<v Speaker 2>go back to some of the stuff they did with

1:02:28.160 --> 1:02:30.400
<v Speaker 2>him as a rookie and you water it down and

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<v Speaker 2>you narrow it down to the things that he's good at,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he would still be serviceable as a backup.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess my opinion hasn't changed that much. I

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<v Speaker 2>do agree with the email that his mechanics and like

1:02:41.200 --> 1:02:44.040
<v Speaker 2>all the s side arm stuff. I think messed with

1:02:44.120 --> 1:02:48.000
<v Speaker 2>it a lot. He missed a lot more short throws

1:02:48.040 --> 1:02:50.960
<v Speaker 2>in the quick game than I remember him missing as

1:02:50.960 --> 1:02:53.800
<v Speaker 2>a rookie. You know, slance, you know that type of

1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:56.600
<v Speaker 2>stuff a lot more this summer than I remember him

1:02:56.640 --> 1:02:59.320
<v Speaker 2>last year. But again, I don't think my opinion on

1:02:59.400 --> 1:03:02.480
<v Speaker 2>him as Drassic change because I still think you could

1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:06.840
<v Speaker 2>make him a competent spot starting backup if you absolutely

1:03:06.840 --> 1:03:09.560
<v Speaker 2>had to. And I still feel that way. Yeah, And

1:03:09.640 --> 1:03:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I think mac Corral is a totally different animal. I

1:03:12.320 --> 1:03:15.320
<v Speaker 2>think that's that's a ball of clay that you're hoping

1:03:15.720 --> 1:03:17.720
<v Speaker 2>it can develop long term into something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's take this call from Eddie in California. Eddie,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up?

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Guys?

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<v Speaker 3>Hope you guys are doing good today. I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like the route that the Patriots are taking in these

1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:36.760
<v Speaker 3>three development quarterbacks. Cunningham's at the end now Corral, and

1:03:36.840 --> 1:03:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I think I do prefer that over veterans like Colt McCoy,

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<v Speaker 3>because I feel like if we get a veteran like

1:03:41.960 --> 1:03:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Colt McCoy, it won't it won't light up the offense.

1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:48.880
<v Speaker 3>And I get that these developments won't light him up

1:03:48.920 --> 1:03:51.240
<v Speaker 3>as well, but I think it'll just be more fun

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<v Speaker 3>to watch. And I feel like we know that we

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<v Speaker 3>probably don't have a playoff push, and so taking a

1:03:57.360 --> 1:04:00.760
<v Speaker 3>veteran quarterback probably is just like I just feel it

1:04:00.800 --> 1:04:04.240
<v Speaker 3>won't make the games enjoyable. What do you guys think

1:04:04.240 --> 1:04:04.680
<v Speaker 3>about that?

1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Edi, Yeah, I understand your point. You know, there's

1:04:06.840 --> 1:04:08.360
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of h and thanks for the call.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a little bit of the unknown, right, there's a

1:04:09.920 --> 1:04:12.840
<v Speaker 2>little bit of the upside, and like maybe with corral

1:04:12.920 --> 1:04:16.080
<v Speaker 2>to a little bit of mobility, Like just like Blie

1:04:16.160 --> 1:04:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Cuttingham goes out there for one drive in a preseason

1:04:18.760 --> 1:04:21.000
<v Speaker 2>game against Houston in the fourth quarter against a bunch

1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:24.160
<v Speaker 2>of guys that just got cut, and everybody goes crazy

1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:26.120
<v Speaker 2>because he can run around, right Like, So I guess

1:04:26.160 --> 1:04:28.920
<v Speaker 2>there's there's sort of that element that makes it more exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a couple of calls, and I was really

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<v Speaker 2>putting on doing this this last week or next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, but just quickly, am I a homer and

1:04:39.600 --> 1:04:42.880
<v Speaker 2>am I a good team employee? Alex? If I say

1:04:42.880 --> 1:04:44.720
<v Speaker 2>that I disagree with these people that are calling in

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<v Speaker 2>that say the Patriots have no playoff chances.

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<v Speaker 1>They have playoff chance. I mean they should contend for

1:04:48.960 --> 1:04:52.880
<v Speaker 1>that that fun a wildcard spot. Yeah, I don't think

1:04:52.880 --> 1:04:54.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a guarantee. I don't think it's a lock, but

1:04:54.640 --> 1:04:56.680
<v Speaker 1>like they're not going to be out of it before December.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't right, I agree with you. I don't agree

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<v Speaker 2>with the car say we don't really have a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to make the playoffs this year. I don't agree. Last year,

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<v Speaker 2>this team was eight and nine, and granted we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this, it was kind of a fake playoff race

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<v Speaker 2>for them down the stretch last year. They weren't really

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<v Speaker 2>in it. They needed a lot of help and they

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<v Speaker 2>needed to beat Buffalo and have other teams completely fall apart.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get they weren't really in it, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were technically one win shy of the playoffs. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>they had gone nine to eight instead of eight and nine,

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<v Speaker 2>they would have had tiebreakers to keep them out of

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs. So I think that they have playoff hopes.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they have hopes to win a playoff game? Probably not?

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<v Speaker 2>But do I think that they could make the playoffs? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? Like I think you take an eight and

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<v Speaker 2>nine team last year you give them a real offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 2>you upgrade in a couple different spots. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's that crazy. Let's get to some of

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<v Speaker 2>the other things about the roster before we wrap it

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<v Speaker 2>up here. I don't think either one of us was

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<v Speaker 2>surprised about two tight ends. I think that I talked

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<v Speaker 2>myself into three at a couple points, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it was totally shocking to see them only roll

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<v Speaker 2>with two. I am interested to see how they block it, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>is Hunter Henry gonna be a better blocker this year

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<v Speaker 2>than he was last year? Maybe, like with the coaching

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<v Speaker 2>and the scheme and the angles and all that stuff improved,

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<v Speaker 2>Like maybe he can be KAUZICKI I still view as

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<v Speaker 2>a receiver. I don't think he's gonna block very much

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Do they use like a guy like Tyrone

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<v Speaker 2>Wheatley played tight end in college? Like, do they use

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<v Speaker 2>him as like a sixth offensive I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think you're gonna see a lot of six offensive one,

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<v Speaker 1>especially early on. We talked about the past rushes. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you see some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's possible as well, So not a huge

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<v Speaker 2>shock there. Their running back situation, we've talked about it

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. This one did surprise me because, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I know again similar to the Zappi thing. Yes, they

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<v Speaker 2>have their running backs on the practice squad. Time Montgomery

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<v Speaker 2>and Kevin Harris are on the practice squad. Remember when Belichick,

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<v Speaker 2>there's two years that I feel like Belichick in Belichick

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<v Speaker 2>so bad when it came to running back depth that

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought we would go back there again. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the Stephen Jackson year. What was that twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was fifteen, Yeah, where they had to

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<v Speaker 2>place Stephen Jackson's corpse in like the last two games

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<v Speaker 2>of the season because they didn't have any other running backs.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other one ended up being something that they

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<v Speaker 2>were kind of ahead of the curve on with Cordell

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<v Speaker 2>Patterson and they actually they discovered he was a running

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<v Speaker 2>back before anybody else did. And now he's a great

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<v Speaker 2>running back in Atlanta, which is kind of ironic. But

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<v Speaker 2>in eighteen, right, it was eighteen that they had to

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<v Speaker 2>use Patterson at running back, and after that I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought there was no way that they would they would

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<v Speaker 2>leave themselves high and try it running back none And

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<v Speaker 2>they're not totally high and dry because they have the

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<v Speaker 2>guys on the practice squad. But I go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the pier strong trade and I wonder, you know, is

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<v Speaker 2>Time Montgomery really the change of pace back, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to call it that that this team needs, Like

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<v Speaker 2>is he really capable of doing that? Is he going

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<v Speaker 2>to be healthy? Is he going to be ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go that? Those are the big question marks. But how

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<v Speaker 2>surprised were you about two running backs? And like, where

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<v Speaker 2>do you think they go from here?

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<v Speaker 1>At this I thought j Taylor into roster spot. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand them being hesitant giving Time Montgomery one because of

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<v Speaker 1>his injury history, and I think the practice squad is

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<v Speaker 1>perfect spot for him. But they yeah, it's it's well

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<v Speaker 1>under what they usually do. I was, I was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>surprised by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Uh me as well. All right, let's go over

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<v Speaker 2>to the defensive side of the ball and then I'll

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<v Speaker 2>we'll wrap with with your kickers, your your rookie kickers

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<v Speaker 2>winning the jobs. I know that that makes you happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh well, I guess really quickly. I'm sorry. I know

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<v Speaker 2>I said we were gonna go defense. Was there any

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<v Speaker 2>question in your mind at the end that Pop Douglas

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<v Speaker 2>and Kasehan Boody were both going to make the team now.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, after the way I was a little on

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<v Speaker 1>defense about kash On Booty going into the final preseason game,

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<v Speaker 1>but once they they didn't give him a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>earn a spot, which told me, yeah, he's got one right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So you could have read that one of two ways. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you could have read it that they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>put any more film out there and have them not

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<v Speaker 2>sneak into the pie. I was with you, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't believe in that the whole there trying to bury Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to hide him. You give players every chance.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't turn a round.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that I thought that maybe they hid

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<v Speaker 2>was Malik at quarterback. They hit that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hide things schematically, Yeah, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, all right, we're gonna bench him and sneak

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<v Speaker 1>him on another practice Like that doesn't right.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought sense the second that Kaishan Boody took that

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<v Speaker 2>slant forty two yards of the house at Lambeau, that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I knew I wanted him on this That's

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<v Speaker 1>when I knew I wanted him on the team. On

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<v Speaker 1>the team, I didn't know if that was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be enough for them, but apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they're like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he had the good week when they came

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<v Speaker 1>back when they were getting ready.

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<v Speaker 2>For tennis sae. Yeah, and he was good in the

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<v Speaker 2>practices in Green Bay too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I love about that that cat sit.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a gamer, dude, I'm telling I wonder if he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got the feeling that he was maybe on

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and was just like, all right, let's show

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<v Speaker 1>him what I can do. Let's open it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love when people are like, all, like the

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<v Speaker 2>safety took a terrible angle in Green Bay. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a good angle, but he also ran through

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<v Speaker 2>the angle like you know, like he took the ball

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<v Speaker 2>and he exploded after the.

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<v Speaker 1>Safety took a bad angle because the margin for error

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<v Speaker 1>was so minuscule because of the way. Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he does. I remember the comp for him before the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>like if he maxes Max's maxes out, Oh no, it

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<v Speaker 1>was not mine, Debo.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that's a big comp.

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<v Speaker 1>But like that kind of player.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's I don't know if his

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<v Speaker 2>breakaway speed is like quite as good as Debos, But

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<v Speaker 2>what he's good at is he's it's weird with him

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<v Speaker 2>because his his straight line speed doesn't show in his

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<v Speaker 2>route running, like he doesn't run by people on like

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<v Speaker 2>a go route or something like that, but he hits

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<v Speaker 2>a different gear with the ball in his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more a you Also, for his size, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>expect a guy to move that fast. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bigger receiver, you think you got to square up, tackle him,

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<v Speaker 1>go low. The smaller, quicker receivers, you give yourself more room.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of can't with him, yeah, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>square him up, he'll run over you. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>hesitate to get to the point to give him more

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<v Speaker 1>room to cut, he exactly what he saw against Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just he's weird because like when you watch

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<v Speaker 2>him on film, you're like he just has no juice,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's not running by anybody, and he's not really

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<v Speaker 2>threatening on a vertical stem or Like there's just no

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<v Speaker 2>juice to his route running.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not dynamic like Pop Douglas runs dynamic routes like

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<v Speaker 1>that guy right it was explodes off the line, gets

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<v Speaker 1>into the break like all that with with Kaishawn Booty,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like he just he's like a different guy with

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<v Speaker 1>the football in his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very weird. It's a little Kendrick Bournish like. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that there's a little bit of an overlap there

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of skill set, but it's it's a it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a cool, uh study. Let's go over to defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I was happy for Sam Roberts. I thought, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>he played his butt off the entire preseason and made

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<v Speaker 2>the team like he We talk, you know, you talk

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about Alex like the at large roster spots. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was competing for an at large roster spot and

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<v Speaker 2>he took the dang thing like he he made the

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<v Speaker 2>team like it wasn't like, oh, we need like six

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<v Speaker 2>defensive linemen and to meet the threshold, we're gonna keep

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Roberts. He forced his way on.

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<v Speaker 1>He was too good. He was too good. Love seeing

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<v Speaker 1>guys like that, and you know he's gonna be here too.

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<v Speaker 1>He might play too, He might play a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not exactly sure where, but the fact he can

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<v Speaker 1>play pretty much any spot on the defensive line. Like

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<v Speaker 1>last year, I did he he dressed only one or

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<v Speaker 1>two games.

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<v Speaker 2>He played like very spare, Yeah, but he did. He

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<v Speaker 2>did play.

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<v Speaker 1>He might play a little more this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, edge rushers your favorite. No, Ronnie Perkins back on

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<v Speaker 2>the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't surprise me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's that's the one that you just like,

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<v Speaker 2>can't really take the take the bait of the final

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<v Speaker 2>preseason game beating up on like six string tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was more so my when I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>my last roster projection, my last spot was Sam Roberts

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<v Speaker 1>Ronnie Perkins. That's what it came down to. And like

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Roberts was good in Green Bay, he was good

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<v Speaker 1>in the Green Bay game. Ronnie Perkins was hurt for

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<v Speaker 1>most of that and then just came back and had

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<v Speaker 1>a last good preseason game. So it was one game

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<v Speaker 1>versus two weeks. And maybe if he wasn't hurt that

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<v Speaker 1>down that stretch, he makes a stronger case. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just off one game, it's it's tough to give it

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<v Speaker 1>to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Where As Mac Wilson made the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and no, I no, no, I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what's his role like a special special

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<v Speaker 1>teams Okay, Marte Mophu's backup?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you really need like Marta Mapu as a rookie

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<v Speaker 2>might already be a situational backup, Like, do you really

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<v Speaker 2>need a backup to the backup?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're playing have bigger plans for map that.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope so, but I'm not convinced of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Leadership, he's been here that kind of thing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he just made it on intangibles.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I I wouldn't have It's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>ones like I wouldn't necessarily have put him on. But

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<v Speaker 1>I understand based on the way they operate, why he

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<v Speaker 1>made the team.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, and maybe this is just my bias

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<v Speaker 2>coming in. First of all, his run defense film last year,

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<v Speaker 2>in his run defense film in the preseason, is not playing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's only gonna play on third downs.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't play in the run game.

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<v Speaker 1>He's only gonna play on the third down.

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<v Speaker 2>The second thing I would say is that I get

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I get a little bit frustrated when they

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<v Speaker 2>keep guys like this, where you have these younger players

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<v Speaker 2>like a Mapou that are better than Mac Wilson. And

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I fear that he'll play the veteran guy, right

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<v Speaker 2>like I fear that Bill will play the veterans.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's all valid, but I'm just saying like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of guy they keep for exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said. I I just that's why they want him

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<v Speaker 1>as a fallback.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing to do with mac Wilson. If he's listening to

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<v Speaker 2>ob he doesn't take this personally. I almost like it

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<v Speaker 2>when they cut those types of guys so that Bill

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have the option to play the veteran over the

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<v Speaker 2>young guy. That's just where I stand with with Mack

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson corners, no big surprises at the top, right like

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<v Speaker 2>Christian DAWs, John Jones, Marcus Jones, Jack Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we like out of the woods at this point

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<v Speaker 1>that Jack Jones like he's gonna uh no, no he.

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<v Speaker 2>Has is I think the next hearing is in between

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<v Speaker 2>week one and two.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but like at this point he's gonna be on

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<v Speaker 1>the field week one. Yeah, okay, so unless the league

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<v Speaker 1>steps But I'm saying like they usually step in by now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably that's what Okay, Yeah, but usually the league also

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<v Speaker 1>lets like the legal stuff right carry through before they

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<v Speaker 1>really get involved. One quick thing on Miles Bryant, take

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<v Speaker 1>your your little your little tweets out of my replies

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<v Speaker 1>on Miles Bryant is on the roster, all right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that Patriots fans have frustrations with Miles Bryant.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. We all have the same frustrations. You

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<v Speaker 2>know how many people, Alex, you get their applies to,

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<v Speaker 2>like the initial why is Miles Bryan on this team?

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<v Speaker 2>Like why why can't we move on from Miles Bryant.

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<v Speaker 2>Miles Bryant is not a man cover corner. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>a man to man guy. He's too slow and he's

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<v Speaker 2>not capable of keeping up with starting caliber NFL receivers

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<v Speaker 2>in man to man. We know that. But they have

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<v Speaker 2>really really big shoes to fill. And I'm writing about

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<v Speaker 2>this for Monday, so you can check that out. They

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<v Speaker 2>have really really big shoes to fill. With Devin mccordy,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be a little bit more too high. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're gonna still play some zone like they those

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<v Speaker 2>are the roles that Miles Bryant's gonna be competing for.

1:16:06.800 --> 1:16:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I think, I hope I would assume that he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be out of Week one or week two against Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, Miles Bryant, you got Jalen Waddle, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're doing that anymore. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, I he's somebody that is really heady and

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<v Speaker 2>zone coverage. He's a sound tackler, he's got good instincts.

1:16:27.720 --> 1:16:31.320
<v Speaker 2>He's a good zone player, zone player, and a smart, savvy,

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<v Speaker 2>veteran type of guy. I have no problem with Miles

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<v Speaker 2>Bryant being on the team, and I think we need

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<v Speaker 2>to stop picking so much on Miles Bryant. That that's

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<v Speaker 2>my soapbox moment with Miles Bryant.

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Bryant. It like Miles Bryant is not as bad

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<v Speaker 1>as he's looked because they haven't used him correctly. If

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<v Speaker 1>they're not a corner, if he's not if they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>use Miles Bryant correctly, I actually think it makes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense to keep him for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons you just said. If they're gonna have him

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<v Speaker 1>try to man up on an island the other team's

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<v Speaker 1>fastest wide receiver, yeah, it's not gonna go well, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Isaam right exactly, So I don't mind them keeping him.

1:17:04.479 --> 1:17:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a very smart football player. I think

1:17:06.400 --> 1:17:08.760
<v Speaker 1>he's a very physical football player, especially for his size,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's value in having that. He'll play on special

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<v Speaker 1>teams He's a good guy to have on the back

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<v Speaker 1>end who can come forward and make him play. But

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<v Speaker 1>you now have the whole thing's built out of slot

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<v Speaker 1>corners pretty much. John Jones, Marcus Jones, Sean Wade. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no reason Miles Briant should have to play slot corner

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<v Speaker 1>reps this year. As long as they keep him out

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<v Speaker 1>of that role. I'm fine with him making the team

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<v Speaker 1>because I do think that he does bring an element

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<v Speaker 1>of toughness and football IQ to the secondary.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's lay off Myles Brian. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I just just just understand what you're watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, you mentioned Sean Wade, Yeah, made the team, and

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<v Speaker 2>I am I allowed to be like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to use the word excited, because I'm not. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's probably gonna be like a fifth defensive back and

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<v Speaker 2>he he he might even be in active honestly for

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<v Speaker 2>game day. But I'm like a little bit intrigued. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that the right word? Maybe by Sean Wade. And the

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<v Speaker 2>main reason is We've talked about so many times with

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Wade that his big season at Ohio State was

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<v Speaker 2>playing slot cornerback. It was not playing on the boundary seasons. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>his big The reason why he was on the NFL's

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<v Speaker 2>map was because of how good he played in the

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<v Speaker 2>nickel role in Ohio State, its slot corner role. The

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<v Speaker 2>Patriots have moved him back there this year. They've played

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<v Speaker 2>him there in a little bit at free safety, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he had a really good summer. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think between that, the fact that he's really a natural

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<v Speaker 2>slot and not an outside corner, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>he actually brings some size to the slot as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Because as much as they're gonna play Miami twice a

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<v Speaker 2>year and they're gonna have to go up against Waddle

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<v Speaker 2>and Hill, and they're gonna have to go up against

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<v Speaker 2>speed slots every week, they're also going to potentially see

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<v Speaker 2>some slots that are bigger, you know, like a guy

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<v Speaker 2>like a Garrett Wilson for example. And I know you

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<v Speaker 2>probably don't want to put Sean Wade on Garrett Wilson,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just using him as an example. They are

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<v Speaker 2>going to play some bigger slots too, and they needed

1:18:58.280 --> 1:19:02.280
<v Speaker 2>somebody with some size one two hundred pounds. He brings

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<v Speaker 2>that element to it. I think he can play safety

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<v Speaker 2>and he can play corner. I'm a little bit intrigued

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<v Speaker 2>by Sean Wade. I thought he had a good summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that he's just at home playing out

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<v Speaker 2>of the slot.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is another one like Matt Corral. They love

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<v Speaker 1>signing these guys that were like elite high school talents,

1:19:19.360 --> 1:19:21.880
<v Speaker 1>yeah that didn't pan out, and seeing if they can

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<v Speaker 1>tap into that. How impressive was Shawn Wade in high

1:19:24.760 --> 1:19:28.759
<v Speaker 1>school eleven he won the Game USA D National Football

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<v Speaker 1>Player of the Year for defense. He was named of

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<v Speaker 1>all the defensive players in high school football nationally in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen. The best other guys who have won that

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<v Speaker 1>Caveon Thibodeaux first round pick Kooyd McKinstry gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick. Solomon tulia Pupu is an edge rusher

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<v Speaker 1>for USC. I don't know if you're familiar with him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Trojans, are you actually no?

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<v Speaker 2>I think does he have a brother, Tully?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is him. I think he goes by

1:19:51.760 --> 1:19:54.360
<v Speaker 1>TULLI yeah, oh yeah, he just got drafted. Oh no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>so it is his brother, Yeah, sorry, no, because he's

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<v Speaker 1>still there. It's gonna be his.

1:19:57.040 --> 1:19:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Last His older brothers in the NFL, his older brothers.

1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:02.760
<v Speaker 1>In the NFL. Jabrill Pepper's won this, Jadavian Clowney won this,

1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence on offense, Kyler Murray, Leonard Fron,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you talk about the guys that Sean Wade's in

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<v Speaker 1>company with. He went to Ohio State, was a really

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<v Speaker 1>good slock owner, really good slock owner. For two years.

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<v Speaker 1>People thought he was gonna be a first round pick.

1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>And then in that twenty twenty season, and remember we

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<v Speaker 1>loved him going into that drifts, You're like, here's value.

1:20:22.320 --> 1:20:23.720
<v Speaker 1>This is a guy's a first round pick fell to

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth round. Why they played him on the boundary

1:20:25.680 --> 1:20:27.200
<v Speaker 1>and he just couldn't do it. And I think it

1:20:27.240 --> 1:20:29.599
<v Speaker 1>messed him up. Because he's talked about his confidence level.

1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:32.519
<v Speaker 1>It seems like he's gotten back in that groove. He's

1:20:32.520 --> 1:20:34.799
<v Speaker 1>playing back in the slot where he's comfortable, he's confident,

1:20:34.840 --> 1:20:37.759
<v Speaker 1>he's making plays there. There is a ton of natural

1:20:37.760 --> 1:20:40.240
<v Speaker 1>talent when it comes to Sean Wade to tap into.

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<v Speaker 2>I intrigued.

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<v Speaker 1>I really think the last couple of years was all mental. Yeah,

1:20:43.920 --> 1:20:46.160
<v Speaker 1>And if they have him back on the right track,

1:20:46.800 --> 1:20:48.240
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a guy who can be a top

1:20:48.280 --> 1:20:49.880
<v Speaker 1>three corner. You're talking about a guy who was the

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<v Speaker 1>potential to be we'll see if he gets there, potential

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<v Speaker 1>to be a starting slot corner.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we saw some of those flashes in camp. Yeah,

1:20:57.439 --> 1:20:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean he had that pick on the goal line

1:20:59.120 --> 1:21:00.479
<v Speaker 2>and it would have been a pick six in a

1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:04.320
<v Speaker 2>game that showed some really, really heavy instincts. He sniffed

1:21:04.320 --> 1:21:07.120
<v Speaker 2>the screen out, jumped the pass, and ran it back

1:21:07.160 --> 1:21:09.200
<v Speaker 2>the other way. I talked to him briefly in the

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<v Speaker 2>locker room on Wednesday after they cut downs and officially

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<v Speaker 2>made the team, and when I asked him about playing

1:21:16.800 --> 1:21:18.640
<v Speaker 2>back at home in the slot, I think, is how

1:21:18.680 --> 1:21:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I freez like you could. The relief on his face

1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:23.400
<v Speaker 2>was just like, yeah, like this is where I belong,

1:21:23.520 --> 1:21:23.840
<v Speaker 2>this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I am. And I again, I think the theme

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<v Speaker 1>of this show. He's kind of been taking flyers on

1:21:29.120 --> 1:21:31.640
<v Speaker 1>players in those Ball of Clay players. If there's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy you're gonna bring in and you're not really sure

1:21:33.320 --> 1:21:34.640
<v Speaker 1>where you're gonna use him, but you want to give

1:21:34.680 --> 1:21:37.360
<v Speaker 1>him a roster spot because of potential, this is the

1:21:37.439 --> 1:21:39.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of guy you do that with. This is absolutely

1:21:39.680 --> 1:21:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the kind of guy you do that with. Okay, So

1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:44.360
<v Speaker 1>speaking of so shout out and again that he came

1:21:44.400 --> 1:21:46.400
<v Speaker 1>back and made the team after two rough years, like

1:21:46.479 --> 1:21:47.080
<v Speaker 1>super happy.

1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, speaking of balls of clay and making the team.

1:21:51.600 --> 1:21:56.679
<v Speaker 2>And I I gotta admit I didn't see a mere

1:21:56.720 --> 1:21:59.479
<v Speaker 2>speed making the team. And I guess I probably should

1:21:59.479 --> 1:22:02.639
<v Speaker 2>have seen a little bit more once Isaiah Bolden's injury

1:22:02.720 --> 1:22:05.240
<v Speaker 2>happened and that kind of opened the path for him.

1:22:05.640 --> 1:22:08.479
<v Speaker 2>They Belichick what like a week ago, two weeks ago,

1:22:08.560 --> 1:22:09.920
<v Speaker 2>called him a developmental player.

1:22:10.040 --> 1:22:12.599
<v Speaker 1>I think So here's the thing. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a corner. I think they see him as

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<v Speaker 1>a Matthews Slater type, as a pure special teamer. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then in that context, it makes a lot of sense.

1:22:20.000 --> 1:22:22.640
<v Speaker 2>So if they well they they basically listed him I

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<v Speaker 2>think on one of our graphics as a stage.

1:22:24.760 --> 1:22:27.600
<v Speaker 1>So I was going to bring that up. I wasn't sure. Yeah,

1:22:27.160 --> 1:22:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the graphic you guys did, which looked really cool. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to the graphics team. YEA, yeah, No, I liked it.

1:22:32.200 --> 1:22:32.559
<v Speaker 2>I liked it.

1:22:32.439 --> 1:22:35.080
<v Speaker 1>It was a cool graphics. All the offensive players had

1:22:35.080 --> 1:22:37.320
<v Speaker 1>read behind them, all the defensive players they blew behind him.

1:22:37.400 --> 1:22:39.519
<v Speaker 1>It was like all the head shots and then the

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<v Speaker 1>special teamers. So Nick Fole not nick Fole, Chad I

1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:45.880
<v Speaker 1>got I'm just defaulting to that. Chad Ryland, Bryce Baringer,

1:22:45.960 --> 1:22:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Joe Cardo, and Matthew Slater had white behind them, So

1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>did Chris Board would you kind of expect and a

1:22:51.360 --> 1:22:51.880
<v Speaker 1>mere speed?

1:22:52.040 --> 1:22:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So I maybe that telegrams. I know the graphics people

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<v Speaker 1>are making them football decisions. But did they get like

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<v Speaker 1>a list and he was listed as a specialist.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think they did.

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<v Speaker 1>So. Yeah, I don't think he's ready to play corner

1:23:02.520 --> 1:23:04.360
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Maybe in a year or two he

1:23:04.439 --> 1:23:06.680
<v Speaker 1>could get there. I thought Isaiah Bolden showed me much

1:23:06.680 --> 1:23:09.120
<v Speaker 1>more in that regard. But spend a lot of time

1:23:09.160 --> 1:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>with Matthew Slater, spent a lot of time with cam

1:23:11.240 --> 1:23:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Ac Cord. Bill Belichick, you know, was complimenting him and

1:23:14.040 --> 1:23:15.639
<v Speaker 1>the way he plays in the kicking game. So did

1:23:15.640 --> 1:23:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Slater. In that context, it makes a lot of sense.

1:23:18.479 --> 1:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>We were kind of talking about, Oh they're keeping less.

1:23:20.200 --> 1:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>This is specialist.

1:23:21.360 --> 1:23:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Brendon Schooler I think is technically like a safety or

1:23:23.800 --> 1:23:24.160
<v Speaker 2>a dB.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Brendan Schooler was he might have had white

1:23:26.320 --> 1:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>behind him.

1:23:26.720 --> 1:23:29.040
<v Speaker 2>That he is now you know, we know he's a

1:23:29.080 --> 1:23:29.839
<v Speaker 2>special team.

1:23:29.760 --> 1:23:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Right it's a Brendan schooler. But Brendan schooler we knew

1:23:32.439 --> 1:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>from the beginning.

1:23:33.160 --> 1:23:35.479
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Dylan and Karina for the great.

1:23:35.280 --> 1:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Because he made it. Brendan's schooler who had white behind him,

1:23:39.040 --> 1:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Barrier, Chris Bord, Joe Cardona, Chad Ryland. Yes, Brendan

1:23:43.080 --> 1:23:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Schooler did, Matthew Slater and a mere Speed. So that's

1:23:46.080 --> 1:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's the full group.

1:23:47.240 --> 1:23:48.559
<v Speaker 2>So they're special teamers.

1:23:48.600 --> 1:23:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Those are the special teamers. So I if they're going

1:23:51.200 --> 1:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>to play a mere Speed at corner, I'd be spriced.

1:23:53.120 --> 1:23:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh I would be too. I mean, I think

1:23:54.880 --> 1:23:58.720
<v Speaker 2>that's a long way. I think essentially six guys that

1:23:58.760 --> 1:24:02.040
<v Speaker 2>can play corner that are actual corners. All right, we're

1:24:02.040 --> 1:24:05.519
<v Speaker 2>going to clear the floor. Your your rookie specialist, Your

1:24:05.800 --> 1:24:10.559
<v Speaker 2>your Patriots punter and kicker for the twenty twenty three season.

1:24:11.080 --> 1:24:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Chad Ryland, Bryce Berenger, the young kid, the kids. The

1:24:14.840 --> 1:24:15.920
<v Speaker 2>kids won the jobs.

1:24:16.040 --> 1:24:17.559
<v Speaker 1>The kids are all Alex.

1:24:17.600 --> 1:24:23.040
<v Speaker 2>How close was it really for either of them?

1:24:23.160 --> 1:24:25.639
<v Speaker 1>I think it got a little close with Barringer when

1:24:25.640 --> 1:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>he had that rough week in Green Bay, if that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. This is what it always should have been.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you don't want to hear it. The only

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<v Speaker 1>question of Kicker was whether they were going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>both of them or not. And I honestly believe Evan

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<v Speaker 1>that that was a consideration.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to push back on you on it

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<v Speaker 2>anymore because they didn't do it, so we don't have to.

1:24:46.280 --> 1:24:49.200
<v Speaker 1>But I do think it was something they thought about.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I'll give you this. I think that it

1:24:51.560 --> 1:24:53.519
<v Speaker 2>was something that they thought about. But I think the

1:24:53.560 --> 1:24:57.040
<v Speaker 2>only reason why they seriously might have considered it was

1:24:57.120 --> 1:25:00.559
<v Speaker 2>because for leverage for a trade like I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they might have looked at it like.

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<v Speaker 1>Made the trade later. I kind of wondered that as well, like.

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<v Speaker 2>They might have looked at it and said, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to give us what we want in the trade

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<v Speaker 2>for Nick Folk, well just keep him right, like that

1:25:09.840 --> 1:25:12.559
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing, and then eventually in season like Tennessee

1:25:12.560 --> 1:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>comes calling and they're desperate and they and they make

1:25:14.760 --> 1:25:18.000
<v Speaker 2>the trade happen. I I was a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 2>were you surprised that all they got was a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five seventh? I was a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder you talked a lot about the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>they were letting Nick Folk rep as much as they did,

1:25:26.680 --> 1:25:29.400
<v Speaker 1>was a respect thing. Yeah, right. I wonder if Bill

1:25:29.439 --> 1:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Belichick went to Nick folk and said, where do you

1:25:31.120 --> 1:25:32.559
<v Speaker 1>want to go? Yeah, and that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've talked in Tennessee, I think earlier today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And he has said that the Patriots initially said that

1:25:38.560 --> 1:25:40.760
<v Speaker 2>they were waiving him or cutting. He wasn't going to

1:25:40.800 --> 1:25:44.040
<v Speaker 2>go on waivers, so cutting him. But I don't know

1:25:44.040 --> 1:25:45.960
<v Speaker 2>if it was the Patriots that came to him then

1:25:46.120 --> 1:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>and said, but Tennessee is showing interest. And I think

1:25:49.960 --> 1:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>that they asked Nick Folky like, would you rather be

1:25:53.040 --> 1:25:55.879
<v Speaker 2>a free agent or would you rather go to Tennessee?

1:25:56.280 --> 1:25:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Like what? He you know, what do you and he

1:25:58.040 --> 1:26:01.479
<v Speaker 2>said that he I think Frable actually called and recruited

1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:05.080
<v Speaker 2>him to Tennessee and he he said, let's make the trade.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So I wonder if there was an element

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<v Speaker 1>of that yeah in there. As for this so little

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<v Speaker 1>spoiler alert, I'll have my bold predictions up next week.

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<v Speaker 1>My bold predictions for the Patriots season up on ninety

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<v Speaker 1>eight five of the sports sub dot com. One of them

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be chat ed Ryland and Bryce Bearinger

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<v Speaker 1>both play seventeen games. I hope so well, I'll tell

1:26:25.080 --> 1:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you why that's a bold prediction, Evan, I don't think

1:26:28.000 --> 1:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>it's bold, but the numbers tell us it's bold.

1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:26:32.080 --> 1:26:36.799
<v Speaker 1>The last team to have two rookie kickers start Week one, Yeah,

1:26:37.240 --> 1:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>was the twenty eleven, twenty fifteen you've already heard me

1:26:40.760 --> 1:26:42.120
<v Speaker 1>do this, Miami Dolphins.

1:26:42.479 --> 1:26:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I stole it from you.

1:26:43.600 --> 1:26:44.880
<v Speaker 1>The last Oh did you use this?

1:26:45.000 --> 1:26:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

1:26:45.280 --> 1:26:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Of course, well, I stole it from PFR. The last

1:26:48.800 --> 1:26:51.800
<v Speaker 1>team to have two rookie kickers play rookie kicker and

1:26:51.840 --> 1:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>punter play at least ten games both was actually more recent.

1:26:54.840 --> 1:26:58.360
<v Speaker 1>It was it twenty eighteen than Oakland Raiders because Daniel Carlson,

1:26:58.360 --> 1:27:02.120
<v Speaker 1>people forget started the season Minnesota. Yeah, the last team

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<v Speaker 1>to have two a rookie kicker and rookie punter both

1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>play a full season. It Actually, it's never surprised. It's

1:27:08.240 --> 1:27:10.640
<v Speaker 1>never happened in the seventeen game season. You have to

1:27:10.680 --> 1:27:14.799
<v Speaker 1>go back to twenty eleven. Alex Henry and Chris Henry

1:27:14.840 --> 1:27:18.120
<v Speaker 1>not related, they're spelt differently for the Philadelphia Eagles, So

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<v Speaker 1>this is pretty unprecedented. You don't see this so in

1:27:24.560 --> 1:27:25.519
<v Speaker 1>that sense, Well, I.

1:27:25.439 --> 1:27:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Mean, I do think it's a little team that draft

1:27:27.160 --> 1:27:28.880
<v Speaker 2>a punter and kicker in the same draft in like

1:27:28.920 --> 1:27:30.040
<v Speaker 2>one hundred years or something like that.

1:27:30.080 --> 1:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>No, because the Raiders did that like three times under Altavis.

1:27:32.439 --> 1:27:34.120
<v Speaker 2>No, they were the first time team in a while

1:27:34.160 --> 1:27:35.439
<v Speaker 2>to do that, though, I.

1:27:35.360 --> 1:27:37.519
<v Speaker 1>Think it's been done more recently than twenty eleven.

1:27:37.560 --> 1:27:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Though. Oh, they drafted a punter and a kicker in

1:27:40.000 --> 1:27:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the same draft. Yeah, that was like going around, was it?

1:27:43.280 --> 1:27:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Either way? It hasn't happened since twenty sixteen that two

1:27:46.560 --> 1:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>guys have played a full season. So I'll be interesting because.

1:27:49.360 --> 1:27:52.439
<v Speaker 2>It's our job to be uh, you know, to poke

1:27:52.479 --> 1:27:55.240
<v Speaker 2>holes and everything. Right, that's that's just the gig.

1:27:55.320 --> 1:27:55.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeap.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your biggest fear?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, sorry, no, it's not twenty eleven. It's twenty twelve. Oh,

1:28:01.600 --> 1:28:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it's twenty twelve, twenty twelve, and it's actually so this

1:28:04.200 --> 1:28:06.679
<v Speaker 1>is a good omen. It was the twenty twelve Saint

1:28:06.760 --> 1:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Louis Rams, Greg Zerline and Johnny Hecker, which if these

1:28:12.400 --> 1:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>guys turn into Greg Zerline and Johnny Hecker, pretty good,

1:28:15.640 --> 1:28:16.719
<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty good draft.

1:28:16.760 --> 1:28:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Get Bill Belichi'm sorry.

1:28:19.160 --> 1:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Both of those guys are drafted. Okay, Oh no, Johnny

1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Hecker was undrafted, So build and take.

1:28:23.960 --> 1:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Him sing, What is your biggest concern, not not about

1:28:27.800 --> 1:28:31.240
<v Speaker 2>the roster decision, Yeah, just their biggest concern about Chad

1:28:31.320 --> 1:28:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Ryland and Bryce Behnger individually their performance this season.

1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Uh, like looking ahead or my biggest concern from what

1:28:38.520 --> 1:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I saw in the summer. But yes, so it kind

1:28:42.320 --> 1:28:44.679
<v Speaker 1>of almost goes to what you talked about with Mac Wilson. Yeah,

1:28:44.800 --> 1:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be growing warts with Chad round there are,

1:28:47.320 --> 1:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and I think he's an NFL caliber kicker, but there's

1:28:49.800 --> 1:28:52.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna be growing pains. And I hope that they don't

1:28:52.520 --> 1:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>panic it. They like part of having a rookie kickers

1:28:54.800 --> 1:28:56.479
<v Speaker 1>that you're just that's what you're signing up for. Yeah,

1:28:56.520 --> 1:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and I hope that they know that's what they've signed

1:28:58.080 --> 1:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>up for. So I when that comes one, how's he

1:29:01.720 --> 1:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>going to handle it? And how's the team gonna handle it?

1:29:04.360 --> 1:29:04.679
<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>My biggest concern with Baringer, I thought it was pretty good.

1:29:08.400 --> 1:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know he he It's not even a weather

1:29:13.040 --> 1:29:14.719
<v Speaker 1>thing because he's been in in Michigan.

1:29:15.000 --> 1:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I think Bearinger is like a classic. He's a classic

1:29:18.479 --> 1:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>long ball hitter. Though, like he's gonna have some shanks.

1:29:21.680 --> 1:29:23.960
<v Speaker 2>We saw some shanks and so in the three.

1:29:24.080 --> 1:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>But I would also say this. I I was gonna say,

1:29:27.320 --> 1:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>my biggest concern every punter is shanks. My biggest concern

1:29:30.120 --> 1:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>is touchbacks. Yeah, I think they're gonna be more aggressive

1:29:34.240 --> 1:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>going for it un fourth down over the fifty. That's

1:29:36.439 --> 1:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>a Bill O'Brien specialty.

1:29:38.479 --> 1:29:40.639
<v Speaker 2>No, I've been I've been hoping and dreaming of that

1:29:40.800 --> 1:29:43.360
<v Speaker 2>since twenty eighteen. Hasn't happened.

1:29:43.360 --> 1:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>They did a little bit nick fall early on. Yeah,

1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, they were kind of aggressive. Yeah, no,

1:29:50.880 --> 1:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, there's gonna be a shank. There's gonna be

1:29:54.120 --> 1:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>shanks with Bearinger, but I don't think it's gonna I

1:29:56.280 --> 1:29:58.479
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's gonna shank the ball more than the

1:29:58.520 --> 1:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>average punt.

1:29:59.240 --> 1:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I actually agree with the you know the shank stuff. Yeah,

1:30:02.000 --> 1:30:04.599
<v Speaker 2>you're probably right, will be pretty look much.

1:30:04.760 --> 1:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna perfectly hit every pun he's gonna kick

1:30:06.840 --> 1:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>this season.

1:30:07.360 --> 1:30:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, touchbacks, I would say, is a big one. And

1:30:11.040 --> 1:30:13.439
<v Speaker 2>like and in the same vein as like I'm kicking

1:30:13.520 --> 1:30:15.840
<v Speaker 2>your coverage is a thing like I did it like

1:30:15.840 --> 1:30:17.439
<v Speaker 2>in life, but like it's a thing to do it

1:30:17.479 --> 1:30:21.880
<v Speaker 2>like in general. Right. Ah, that was good? Can we

1:30:21.920 --> 1:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>click that and said that home. Uh, it's good to. Uh,

1:30:26.439 --> 1:30:29.240
<v Speaker 2>it's good to you can really out kick your coverage,

1:30:29.240 --> 1:30:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Like that's a thing that can happen. And I we

1:30:32.120 --> 1:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>saw it a little bit in Tennessee, like you bomb

1:30:34.240 --> 1:30:37.519
<v Speaker 2>one seventy yards and it's like, you know, Matthew Slayer

1:30:37.560 --> 1:30:39.600
<v Speaker 2>has got a long way to go to cover that.

1:30:39.680 --> 1:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Look, they kept one of their fastest players in a

1:30:43.680 --> 1:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>mere Speed. Maybe those two things are related. The need

1:30:46.400 --> 1:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>for speed is so, I would say. So. The thing

1:30:50.160 --> 1:30:52.919
<v Speaker 1>is he kicks it far, but he doesn't kick line drives.

1:30:53.120 --> 1:30:54.559
<v Speaker 2>No, he gets it. He gets it up there.

1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>He really does. And this goes back to my thing, Evan,

1:30:57.800 --> 1:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>what's the proper application of the forty yard dash? Do

1:31:01.240 --> 1:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you know this at this point? So the reason they

1:31:03.840 --> 1:31:05.759
<v Speaker 1>were on the forty yard dash when they started the combine,

1:31:05.760 --> 1:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>it was very simply the average punt at the time

1:31:07.920 --> 1:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>was forty yards and it was can you get down

1:31:09.800 --> 1:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the field in time? Teams would compare the forty yard

1:31:12.080 --> 1:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>dash to their punter's average hanngtime, and it was can

1:31:14.120 --> 1:31:15.559
<v Speaker 1>you get down the field in time to cover a punt?

1:31:16.240 --> 1:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>A mere Speed's forty four point three four seconds. He'd

1:31:20.160 --> 1:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>throw half a second on they're getting jammed at the

1:31:21.760 --> 1:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>line right dang fast. But that's a guy that's gonna

1:31:24.960 --> 1:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>get to how many hangtimes did Bryce Bearinger have this summer?

1:31:28.200 --> 1:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Even on those boomers that.

1:31:30.520 --> 1:31:34.839
<v Speaker 2>So you think Gunner week one slater a mere Speed.

1:31:35.439 --> 1:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think who else they put out there.

1:31:37.520 --> 1:31:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Seems like the schooler played Gunner a little bit last year,

1:31:40.120 --> 1:31:40.639
<v Speaker 1>but he's.

1:31:40.479 --> 1:31:42.040
<v Speaker 2>More of an articular guy.

1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you need fast gunners if you're gonna have a

1:31:46.880 --> 1:31:49.719
<v Speaker 1>punter like this. But a mere Speed is very fast.

1:31:49.760 --> 1:31:52.800
<v Speaker 2>All right, there you go. That's that's that's what you get.

1:31:52.880 --> 1:31:56.479
<v Speaker 2>On even another one, we connected dots of how a

1:31:56.560 --> 1:31:59.439
<v Speaker 2>mere Speed is on this roster. Pretty surprising that he

1:31:59.560 --> 1:32:01.679
<v Speaker 2>made it, and he's on the roster because he's got

1:32:01.680 --> 1:32:02.360
<v Speaker 2>to cover punts.

1:32:02.439 --> 1:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you one more tay, you want to go

1:32:03.840 --> 1:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to another level on this. Yeah, if they're going to

1:32:05.880 --> 1:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>elevate him at all this year, Malie Cunningham would be

1:32:08.640 --> 1:32:10.639
<v Speaker 1>one of their faster gunners. And we saw him practice there.

1:32:10.720 --> 1:32:13.479
<v Speaker 2>You think Malie Cunningham can play gunner in an NFL game.

1:32:13.520 --> 1:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>No, But they were giving him off, they were trying

1:32:15.080 --> 1:32:15.599
<v Speaker 1>him out there.

1:32:15.680 --> 1:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>So all right, Well that does it for this show.

1:32:19.439 --> 1:32:22.599
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be back next week, hopefully back at two

1:32:22.600 --> 1:32:25.439
<v Speaker 2>o'clock if the schedule permits for the Patriots, but it

1:32:25.439 --> 1:32:27.800
<v Speaker 2>should because it'll be a regular Thursday, and it'll be

1:32:27.800 --> 1:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>a longer break in between practice and open locker room

1:32:32.720 --> 1:32:37.160
<v Speaker 2>next week, Alex, So Philadelphia the Eagles, h oh.

1:32:36.840 --> 1:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're we're We're back in, back in.

1:32:40.200 --> 1:32:44.040
<v Speaker 2>To season mode. We will well, we'll maybe talk a little, Brady,

1:32:44.160 --> 1:32:46.600
<v Speaker 2>but I want to mostly focus on the game. And

1:32:46.720 --> 1:32:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you next week. And I've already brainstormed

1:32:49.360 --> 1:32:50.640
<v Speaker 2>this with the Alex off the air, but this is

1:32:50.640 --> 1:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>a pro tease right here. I'm gonna tell you next

1:32:52.760 --> 1:32:56.559
<v Speaker 2>week why I think the Patriots offense, the offense can

1:32:56.680 --> 1:33:01.960
<v Speaker 2>actually score some points against his Eagles defense. Alright, I'm

1:33:01.960 --> 1:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna tell you that next week. You're gonna have to

1:33:05.920 --> 1:33:08.479
<v Speaker 2>come back next week and hear why. I'm outside my

1:33:08.640 --> 1:33:10.799
<v Speaker 2>mind thinking that the Patriots are going to hang thirty

1:33:11.080 --> 1:33:13.479
<v Speaker 2>on the Eagles in ten days. But until then, signing

1:33:13.479 --> 1:33:16.479
<v Speaker 2>off for Map behind the Glass, Alex, I'm Evan Lazar.

1:33:16.560 --> 1:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening. We'll see you guys next week, and

1:33:18.880 --> 1:33:20.679
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